zealot-class

[polar nexus]

i don't understand, chord is faster

rampage shred on both

[fading vale]

uh, cleave

[ripe quest]

New Evis has way more cleave by default than new Chord with the crowd combos

[frozen glen]

it happened agane

just chastise into bursters lads you'll be ok

[ripe quest]

Even the Mk IV's heavies have less than the XV's lights

[frozen glen]

👍

[royal vortex]

stop playing in third person

[polar nexus]

i thought nuchord had more cleave

[frank night]

lest we forget

[south folio]

i wish chastise didn't have this just so that you in particular got fucked by this moment

[coarse birch]

how do people play in 3rd person i do not get it

[royal vortex]

why is he here

god damnit

[south folio]

kill mittins

[frank night]

Arcotash actively animorphing into a floor roomba in the whoops all psykers run

[south folio]

shut up

[ripe quest]

You can just check cleave values, they're about the same as the Mk IV's but the H1 and H2 have 0 cleave

[frozen glen]

i only do it with caxe

[south folio]

they put poison in my mutton

[frank night]

man tasted the air outside and had four seizures immediately

[polar nexus]

yeah i was light spamming

[south folio]

three seizures

[frozen glen]

i have a medkit with field improv vet BITCH u think this can end me

[royal vortex]

i was doing so well

and then the fire cooked me when the cspawn grabbed me

i couldve clutched

[coarse birch]

cspawn grab makes me sad sometimes

[frozen glen]

fire dmg with cspawn grab is dumb

stupid

[polar nexus]

meaning i want to milk that cdr it's better if i use my evis

[coarse birch]

im glad its not like pre patch tho

[ripe quest]

Yeah no wonder it's slower. You have a 1.5 cleave light and 3 4.5 cleave lights competing with 11.5 cleave lights on the Evis

[frank night]

i do not remember that match besides the detonations of arcotash

[polar nexus]

HOLY SHIT

[royal vortex]

i swapped back to gunker and we won

[ripe quest]

You're not even using the H3 that the XIIIg has

which has 8 cleave

[coarse birch]

is this why he only plays columnus vet now

[frank night]

i huff spray paint now

[royal vortex]

he's a meta slave

not me though

[frank night]

(playing plasma)

[royal vortex]

i am a principled crusher user

[polar nexus]

forgot about that one tbh, i wast testing in hisgh and things became hectic

[south folio]

"principled"

[coarse birch]

i use crusher as well but i play assail/DS psyker and i think that overwrites using crusher

[royal vortex]

principled

[frank night]

his psyche has been crushed into the shape of a soggy pringle by putting consistent effort into something over an extended period of time

[royal vortex]

extended period

it was like

3 days

[frank night]

did I stutter

[royal vortex]

i hate you

[frank night]

i am asked to prevent use of the cash shop while i am in the kitchen making coffee

[royal vortex]

shut UP

stop

[frank night]

in the two minutes it takes to return

[frosty herald]

Crusher kinda slow without attack speed

[frank night]

it is already too late

[royal vortex]

it was more than 2 minutes

let the records show

i think

[sterile basalt]

Is this fine

Or do I rly want deathblow + headtaker

[royal vortex]

swap savage sweep to headtaker

[polar nexus]

on the other hand bloodthirsty feels good on nuchord

[sterile basalt]

Ok I’ll swap when I eventually find it

[royal vortex]

also that was

[gray ice]

so I can do pretty decent with gun psyker

[royal vortex]

when was that

[gray ice]

but holy shit I suck at not taking dmg sometimes

[royal vortex]

i dont think i had started writing the guide by that point

[frank night]

think back

.

[royal vortex]

please stop saying that

[polar nexus]

even headtaker 1 or 2 is better than ss on the hsword

[frank night]

i did 1 hi shock today and got barrelled off the map by a recon vet

[polar nexus]

so rip the first on you got and put it

[frank night]

i am now bald

[coarse birch]

josho i think you have a toxic relationship with all your darktide friends

[royal vortex]

"darktide"

[frank night]

coolcab was the positive one and he vanished in mysterious circumstances

[royal vortex]

this is how i prefer to communicate with people

through hostility

[frank night]

murder, she wrote

[coarse birch]

i didnt know what to call them idk if you know them irl at this point

[royal vortex]

no i meant thats the case

with all my friends

[coarse birch]

ah

[frozen glen]

josho i think u just have bad friends

[royal vortex]

i have good friends

[polar nexus]

hab dreyko is interesting now, i took like 200dmg during the mission and 1k in the final event

[royal vortex]

i have learned to distinguish between genuinely shitty people and those who like banter

[frank night]

this image is more real than u realise

[royal vortex]

shut

the fuck UP

[gray ice]

you aren't real friends if you can't have a roast session that would put the salem witch trials to shame

[frosty herald]

Cica and i are good friends

[royal vortex]

i hate this guy

this fkin mittins dude

set him on fire

[frank night]

my ms paint skills have improved

[coarse birch]

mittins has yet to wrong me an i cannot condone this

[royal vortex]

the difference is also when this happens in text chat u cant hear what people describe as the dolphin noises

when i laugh

[coarse birch]

i thought it was hyena

[royal vortex]

it goes back and fourth

[frank night]

it can be pterodactyl

[royal vortex]

they use different animals to describe it

[coarse birch]

fourth

[frosty herald]

Throw tar on mittens and cover him in feathers

[royal vortex]

fuck

GOD

DAMNIT

[gray ice]

honestly josho laughs like I do, which gives me comfort

[frozen glen]

british forth

[gray ice]

that I'm not the only one that laughs like a witch

[royal vortex]

dont u fkin use me as the "if this guy has it bad im doing ok" motivation

[frank night]

we also had a phase of asking him if he was off to fight batman

[royal vortex]

i was a terror upon tertium

with what i did to @south folio and co

i have convinced stan that arco is a serial barreler which is i think the funniest part of it all

[frank night]

i had a realisation that i have become a withered old darktide player now i no longer find barrels funny

but that might be because i play pubs too much

[royal vortex]

they got old

[frank night]

and they are an easy way for some RANDO

to instantly lose a run

[coarse birch]

randos change you

[royal vortex]

i dont get barreled in pubs often

but uh

i will set them off and i will ping them

and some dude will fkin walk into it

and then go

"i hate you"

[coarse birch]

i also very rarely get barreled in pubs but i also dont stand near them

on purpose

[royal vortex]

i legit did this to a vet and i said "oops sorry" and he replied

"fuck you"

[frosty herald]

Lmao

[royal vortex]

10 mins later at the end he forgave me

i was on ogryn

[frozen glen]

if the barrel is near a ledge i just blow it up immediately

gotta babyproof the map

[frosty herald]

Rember that knife player that attacked a host withour even looking

[copper hawk]

Gnarp gnarp

[frosty herald]

Just stabbing everywhere

[frank night]

i swear the game also has longer knock back near ledges

i fkn swear

[royal vortex]

i do quite enjoy when pub players do incomprehensibly stupid shit

unless its one of those fucking "when it rans it pours" days

where i keep having people SUICIDE INTO DAEMONHOSTS THAT AGGRO ON ME

[coarse birch]

i have seen pubs be dumb enough times at this point it is no longer funny and usually annoying

[frank night]

you were fed to the cashier

[frosty herald]

Imagine hosts kill 3 players on damnation instead of 2

[royal vortex]

i don't let myself get mad at pubs unless they are exceedingly stupid

[coarse birch]

because chances are they are being dumb when i go down and im already annoyed at myself for going down

[royal vortex]

because if i laugh at the dumb shit i have more fun

[heavy arch]

i watched a pug beat into a bulwarks shield but resetting his stagger so the shield never actually opened up

[frank night]

i deliberately solo queue into random auric damnations so i have deprived myself of the right to complain

[heavy arch]

he accused me of not helping

which is true i didnt help

[frank night]

i have chosen to be in the mid-match fill disaster party

[royal vortex]

the last time i declared article 5 u abandoned me for some fucking almonds

[frank night]

u declared article 5

on a guy who was dced

for 30 seconds

[royal vortex]

not my problem

[frozen glen]

i have this guy who managed to barrel himself off without taking medicae

[frank night]

there is no SSD IN THE WORLD

[frozen glen]

dk who he is

[royal vortex]

maybe if ur poor

use all that leftover colonialism money

[frank night]

i realise why redverse is usually dead 50km away from team with a rashad axe now

he keeps listening to fighting game music rock

[coarse birch]

music is usually a death sentence in this game cause you just get trappered

[royal vortex]

i choose the most confusing music types for my clips

[frozen glen]

mittins that stereotype died 3 months ago

[coarse birch]

if i could rely on sound in this game to work more

i would listen to music in game

[royal vortex]

i had some dude ask me why i was listening to a fkin daniel khan song while killing a dh

[coarse birch]

red dont you hate knives

[heavy arch]

whos daniel khan

[royal vortex]

i had another dude say he couldnt stand dogshit music in clips when i posted https://streamable.com/grive9

[frank night]

is music in this case

[frozen glen]

i dont use knives

[frank night]

a constant stream of american food adverts

[frozen glen]

they just kinda sit there

throwing knives i mean

[royal vortex]

no

[coarse birch]

i meant like combat blade

[frozen glen]

i like the mk6

[frank night]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4xw8dJkicI kronk hides around a corner waiting for the gunners to run in with this certified hood classic blasting in his headset

[royal vortex]

lmfao

[drifting wolf]

kronk has good taste in music

[coarse birch]

id believe it honestly

[royal vortex]

me and mankar had a running joke for a while that my ogryn is non-verbal

which was really funny in a couple pubs because i would throw a nuke in the elevator and get sad that i dropped it

also a product of playing the game at 5 am while sleep deprived and finding everything funny

[merry spade]

If the stats were a bit better, and this appeared for my Veteran, i would consider grabbing it from melk.

[frosty herald]

At

5

Am

Are you ok

[coarse birch]

hey i was playing darktide at 5 am yesterday

er

today ig

[royal vortex]

i have played this game during each of the 24 hours in a day

not consecutively thank god

[coarse birch]

i probably have as well

[frozen glen]

do u happen to enjoy darktide

[royal vortex]

debatably

mittins would tell u i am in the "failing marriage" stage

whatever that means

do not believe his lies

[merry spade]

Melk's selling this for 3k, good hammer or bad? (I dont usually play zealot)

[frozen glen]

bad

[coarse birch]

bad

[royal vortex]

bad unfortunately

[coarse birch]

you want higher damage and the blessings are awful

unyielding is the only good thing

[south folio]

this video is all you need to know about who josho is and why he should be locked up https://streamable.com/viydys

[merry spade]

gotcha

[coarse birch]

well the other stats are fine minus damage

[north sedge]

hard to get worse than that

[frosty herald]

Josho your allowed to play other games

Like armored core

[north sedge]

josiah plays only wholesome games, like bear's gate 3

[royal vortex]

simpler times

[coarse birch]

i should play armored core at some point

[frozen glen]

josho would u care for a blow up doll

and a bear

[royal vortex]

no

[frosty herald]

Its a good game

[royal vortex]

obviously its time to reinstall bg3

[frosty herald]

Did the ng++ ending hopefully there will be more story stuff later

[frozen glen]

rogue trader that bad huh

[frosty herald]

Maybe even a white glint fight with parts

[royal vortex]

im not going to finish that game until they fixed everything beyond act 2 having a decent chance of softlocking you or breaking quests

[spark violet]

https://gyazo.com/6bccd4c165233fa4a50c1bf3dc03516f

from grey to this

[visual stream]

XCOM 2 is $6 rn down from $60 if anyone wants yet another turn based game to try

[coarse birch]

i think i own tha t

[frosty herald]

Owlcat is king in releasing bug ridden games

[visual stream]

Just copped yesterday

[coarse birch]

i do

i dont remember buying it

[granite minnow]

You just gave me a reason to not try it, ty

[frozen glen]

do

do u realize what discord we're in

[frosty herald]

Its worse with owlcat

[royal vortex]

i would never play an unfinished unstable at launch game

[frosty herald]

Trust me

[mighty kelp]

This worth anything, I heared the new chainaxes is supposed to be hood

[frosty herald]

The pathfinder games were so ungodly buggy

[copper hawk]

Dont llay xcom

[coarse birch]

idk if ive ever played a broken game

nope

[copper hawk]

Play Battle Brothers

[frozen glen]

its decent

[copper hawk]

[north sedge]

good base but the rest not so good

[visual stream]

Xcom is cool other than the fact that you can lose a levelled character from enemies appearing offscreen despite decent placement

[granite minnow]

battlebit remastered is quite fun

[copper hawk]

[frosty herald]

I would enjoy xcom 2 if the game end timer was completely non existant

[frozen glen]

they about to hack atoma bruh

[copper hawk]

Play battle brotherz PLZ

My fav turnbased game eber..

[frosty herald]

Uhhh

Tiananmen square

[visual stream]

Is the game end timer in every single mission?

[copper hawk]

June 4th

1989

[frosty herald]

Nah

[visual stream]

Thank god

[frosty herald]

Theres an avatar project

[visual stream]

That shit's lame

[frosty herald]

Well

There are mission timers

[copper hawk]

[frosty herald]

Like complete mission in x turns or die

[visual stream]

Ohh I thought that's what you meant

[frosty herald]

Nah

[visual stream]

Man Mechanicus copied a lot from XCOM

[frosty herald]

I turned off the awakening project cause end timers SUCK

And are not a fun game design mechanic

[visual stream]

I like the sense of urgency and planning that Mechanicus does, but then again I've only gotten towards late game, haven't progressed to beat the game

[frank night]

it is when a man or woman begins to sarcastically narrate things going on in a game like they are sat in front of a couples' counsellor

[visual stream]

Mechanicus is cool because even if your ultra-invested characters die to dumb shit that you couldn't have predicted without prior map knowledge or luck, they're not POOF forever

[frank night]

and yeah mechanicus was a lot less on the rng

[royal vortex]

lmao

[frank night]

and way more on balancing action economy

altho you got invincible incredibly easily in that game

[minor sage]

end timers force you to play aggressively

[visual stream]

I would rather my hyper-sniping, 90% body mass being composed of cannons chad not just be gone forever

[minor sage]

compared to just sitting there and overwatching

which is also kinda lame tbf

[frosty herald]

end timers give me stress and i wanna relax

[minor sage]

well it is a turn based game lol

[frosty herald]

i dont mind the mission end timers

just the global finish the game before this bar runs out or restart

[visual stream]

I like the mission end timers usually for that reason, the urgency is cool but sometimes it forces you to HAVE to make dumb plays because the enemy AI can at times play like they are aware

Maybe a couple more rounds in some cases, other times I'm chilling

[frank night]

i tend to stress a lil bit before realising how much the bar actually progs when stuff happens

outside highest difficulties it's usually nada

[maiden path]

where ma mgs3 fans at

[minor sage]

isnt global end timer super lax

like it fills up 1 bar at a time

and raiding a facility removes like all of it

[frosty herald]

still not fun

i just edit the game files to increase the bar to 999

[minor sage]

disgusting cheater

[azure mortar]

thank jesus modders exist 🙏

[frosty herald]

its not really modding

its legit just going into the files searching for a specific keyword and then edditing it

[tropic harbor]

High level hacking going on here

My crew needs a hacker like you for our latest heist. You in?

[jolly bridge]

Do you guys prefer the new Chainaxe and why?
I've played both and I have to say Mk IV (old one) still feels superior in every way..

Light attacks one-tap almost everything, Heavy attacks do very good horde clearing
Combined with Martyrdom (wounds) build it karking Shreds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9O1AnZXrRw

[dense field]

I prefer the old one

Feels good man

[sharp zodiac]

Ig I can make this work

Just gotta swap a blessing and a perk

[royal vortex]

what does the top perk mean

[frozen glen]

infested and upgrade skullcrusher

thats unyielding

[royal vortex]

yea u just swap thunderstrike and infested and its almost perfect

[frozen glen]

o wait thats thunderstrike

[royal vortex]

i can tell based off the icons

im just that good

[frozen glen]

theyre all skulls to me

[royal vortex]

blind

[frank night]

mashallah she has provided french

[sharp zodiac]

Brise-crâne is skullcrusher

[royal vortex]

broyeur indignatus

[north sedge]

le baconator

[frozen glen]

honhon i go to ze seafood restaurant to l'achat a 'amburgeurrr

[royal vortex]

already a naturalized american

[azure mortar]

how can you deal with your game being in french

it's so annoying when you have to look it up every 5 seconds

[gray ice]

ayo for an emp gift this shit kinda cool

[sharp zodiac]

Because it's my language, that and I can always resemble the icons

Most of the time I look at the icons instead of the name

[frank night]

DEGATS

[royal vortex]

stop with the frogphobia

[azure mortar]

why not put your game in english though, it'd be easier

[frank night]

they're

french ?

[azure mortar]

i see

[frank night]

or do u mean for us

[sharp zodiac]

Did your discord have my flag be labeled "fr"

[azure mortar]

I think there is a confusion, I'm french too

[frank night]

Luna (she/they) for real

[azure mortar]

I'm talking about how it's harder to communicate when your game isn't in englisj

[sharp zodiac]

Ahh

Ok I see what you mean

Uh, truth be told

[fading vale]

how was the baconator, in terms of fast food burger rating

[sharp zodiac]

Kinda just lazy

[azure mortar]

lol that's fair

[sharp zodiac]

9.5/10

[fading vale]

hell yeah

[frozen glen]

if its spelled baconateur in french its not a real language

[royal vortex]

baconaturrrr

[ripe quest]

the baconschloppen

[frank night]

le GRILLE

[royal vortex]

honhon

[frozen glen]

holy shit new nexpo video dropped

woohoo

[hallow hatch]

should i buy this from melk?

[royal vortex]

u can

[frozen glen]

yea just swap stripped down to dumdum and cara to flak

or maniac

[royal vortex]

v good stat rolls but none of those are particularly great perks

columnus only really needs dumdum/flak though

[hallow hatch]

ok dope

[coarse birch]

I wish i liked columnus more

Its so good

[hushed knoll]

WHAT

[hushed knoll]

Hello Josiah no Japan

[coarse birch]

But it just doesnt click with me

[heavy arch]

p good

[royal vortex]

hi stan

[sharp zodiac]

Gotta get a wee bit o plasteel

[blazing fossil]

French and Scottish lol

[drowsy steppe]

fr

[stray summit]

how did i do more damage to bosses than my overall damage?

[north sedge]

counted seperately

[blazing fossil]

Get ovenproof plugin

[alpine egret]

so im trying to build out a nice eviscerator and currently run savage sweep / rampage and break around 600-700k damage on my current build. Are there any other blessings that could increase the amount of damage i do ?

[sonic totem]

If you're running crit build, could replace savage sweep for shred, but that's about it.

[alpine egret]

No im not running crit at the moment, would crit do more damage than say marty ?

[sonic totem]

What ability are you running? Fury?

[alpine egret]

currently prayer, fury i traded out because its one swing vs a 25% damage buff for a few seconds

running fire nades

and martry

[sonic totem]

If you run fury with cooldown on crit, scourge (bleed on crit) and marty, you can get some pretty nutty dps

Also can use fury with your gun to essentually give it giga damage buff with armor pen for like, 3-5 seconds (I can't remember how long it lasts)

But if you prefer prayer, that works too

[alpine egret]

ill do some testing in aurics

[sonic totem]

Could also run blazing piety but that may be a little overkill

[alpine egret]

Oh overkill idc about

wait piety with what fury or prayer?

[sonic totem]

Fury

[ripe quest]

Fury just gives a armor downgrade effect to your guns (gives it to your next melee hit as well), along with the attack speed buff. It's effect varies with each weapon.

[sonic totem]

Can also do prayer if you wanna spam that instead

[sonic totem]

Right sorry, attack speed and armour pen

[north sedge]

fury is just gonna output more dmg

[ripe quest]

Moves Cara to the Flak ADM and Flak to the Unarmored ADM to be specific

so like, maniac and unyielding don't get anything

[frozen glen]

fleshy flesh

[ripe quest]

Punching with the bullets to make them pen armor

[ripe quest]

Not really no. If you're running a non-crit build you're set, Martyr will push your damage output.

[alpine egret]

right but what does the MOST damage

im a damage monkey

[sonic totem]

Crit heavy sword fury build I think?

[quaint verge]

A gunlogger

[ripe quest]

I feel like a weapon change ig, probs a Deathblow Hsword or a Caxe

[polar nexus]

bleed knife

[ripe quest]

no

[polar nexus]

obviously

[lofty elk]

Shop has 2 good hammers, which should I buy?
this or this

[ripe quest]

That's 2 of the same picture

[quaint verge]

You posted the same

[polar nexus]

it's bad

[ripe quest]

def that one

[lofty elk]

this one seems the better one

[polar nexus]

yeah

[sonic totem]

Melk shop?

[polar nexus]

crit to unyielding

and a some point thrust3 to 4

[quaint verge]

And thrust to t4

[minor sage]

man

why are u guys

the only channel

that gives advice that is correct

you should see some of the shit ppl in #veteran-class and #psyker-class tell ppl to do

[lofty elk]

funnily thrust is the only one I have on T4

[frozen glen]

def thrust to t4

[polar nexus]

because we have like multiple alts?

[frozen glen]

the 15% is huge

[quaint verge]

I've seen em, which is why I don't go to em

[frosty herald]

you should ermm

[polar nexus]

well mate you are set for life

[frosty herald]

run ermm

flame staff on psyker

[lofty elk]

is unyielding really that good? bosses seem rarely an issue unless on maelstrom I guess

[frozen glen]

yes

[polar nexus]

it's the ttk

[quaint verge]

The flammy trauma staff

[polar nexus]

you want them do die fast so that you can move on

[frozen glen]

uhhhhh if you run uhhhh a staff on psyker uhhhhh

u win

[ripe quest]

This channel is just the same like 4 people with 50 alts talking to eachother

[lofty elk]

ok thanks guys

I do prefer the move set of the other hammer but this seems too good to pass on

[frosty herald]

ironhelm?

[quaint verge]

At least you can enjoy the cleave special with that new hammer

[quaint verge]

You forgot the gold mine that is general chat.
#general-chat message

[lofty elk]

any tips for ironhelm?

[quaint verge]

Like combos?

[lofty elk]

should I cancel the 3 heavy combo with a push?

[quaint verge]

Can't remember if it reset on blocking

[zinc monolith]

It does indeed reset on blocking

[quaint verge]

I usually just do H2 l2 (cause I'm too lazy to micro manage it)

[trail grove]

You know what'd be very ridiculous?

A chaindagger.

[quaint verge]

If only they added daggers

[royal vortex]

who are these fkin level 26 ogryns getting brought into auric and triple dipping on an ammo crate

dude used like 1/3rd of his ammo and then was like "time for another bite"

[quaint verge]

[royal vortex]

fat bastard

didn't even do anything with it

[quaint verge]

A good time to play other games

[lofty elk]

vote kick

[royal vortex]

i didnt even mind

i just didnt get what the point was

he didnt fuckin shoot the gun enough

[quaint verge]

Ogryn see ammo, ogryn eat ammo

[fading vale]

just H1 H2 and spam special

[royal vortex]

he legitimately did not fire his stubber enough to warrant triple dipping

[sharp zodiac]

What next

[royal vortex]

read the crusher guide

[fading vale]

ironhelm doesn't have combos and the overhead is pretty much pointless

[royal vortex]

learn the secrets

[lofty elk]

I noticed

[ripe quest]

Bigger bonkage

[lofty elk]

if you do miss your special sweep you can have a special overhead

[ripe quest]

[sharp zodiac]

Hope these secrets don't corrupt my mind and force me to file taxes

[royal vortex]

i can confirm none of them do

[frozen glen]

infested to flak

[ripe quest]

You just do Push -> H3

[frozen glen]

flak

its always flak

[fading vale]

on h3

[frozen glen]

if ur weapon doesnt have flak put flak on it

[ripe quest]

oh no you have to do a push followup

[fading vale]

then you have to start with a push attack

[ripe quest]

no

[fading vale]

just a waste of time

[ripe quest]

it's a push followup

not a PA

[fading vale]

err push whatever

still pointless

[royal vortex]

the ironhelm's lights alternating between relentless and strikedown is infuriating because there isn't even a single target "chain" that you can stay looped into

[coarse birch]

i have an ogryn friend who rolled the god roll mk19 shovel on accident and still uses his stubber on crushers and it kills my soul

[royal vortex]

lmao

i just played one shield + kickback game to turn the mind off for a bit

since its fkin cold and i dont actually wanna have to aim cuz my hands are shaking

[ripe quest]

I find myself having the timing in my favor to spend the extra half second to go straight into H3

I think it's neat

[coarse birch]

how cold is your house damn

[fading vale]

maybe one day fatshark will fix the targeting code and overheads will be less annoying

[royal vortex]

its my room in particular

[oak blaze]

i dont think u guys r seeing this

[royal vortex]

that is freezing

[coarse birch]

is there no way to heat it up

[royal vortex]

i could

but im lazy

[ripe quest]

I'm seeing a very mediocre perk and blessing setup

[royal vortex]

bloodthirsty is terrible on the chainsword unfortunately

[oak blaze]

[sharp zodiac]

Alright I'll give this a shot later

[royal vortex]

devstrike likewise is terrible

[fading vale]

never use crit damage or weakspot damage perks, they aren't even close to 10%

[oak blaze]

i just rolled it bro

[fading vale]

they say 10%

[oak blaze]

never used it at all lmao

[royal vortex]

u can keep it for the aesthetic

[fading vale]

but it's a lie lol

[royal vortex]

tbh

[frozen glen]

i mean its usable with shred

[azure mortar]

;;

[ripe quest]

A fine addition to the collection

[quaint verge]

Parkinsons ?

[royal vortex]

part of the reason i wrote the crusher guide is because i would see ppl saying shit like

"with duellist and blazing piety crit damage is good on crusher"

[frozen glen]

u can stagger bosses with it

[royal vortex]

and i wanted to tear my eyes out

[fading vale]

wdym I just spam the special bro

[royal vortex]

lmfao that was comical

[ripe quest]

Only correct part of that is with Duellist

Truly ballin

[coarse birch]

duellist is pog

[royal vortex]

honestly BP crusher isn't that bad even w/o invocation

[fading vale]

crusher is just good in general

[azure mortar]

Is crusher OP though ?

[frozen glen]

crit + cara gives u crusher 4 shot breakpoint

[royal vortex]

ehhhh

if crusher is too strong that is a symptom of the game generally having too much raw player power

it's not particularly outstanding in terms of dps or anything

[fading vale]

I would say crusher CC and dealing with elite packs might be a bit too strong but otherwise no

[royal vortex]

u can't 1-tap full 4 hp shotgunners/ragers etc

[coarse birch]

crusher is very good i wouldnt say its OP but thats mostly cause the top end shit is really really stupid

[frozen glen]

there is too much stupid shit in the game to even consider calling the crusher op

[royal vortex]

this is one of the only times i would really go "you have to bring other stuff up" because more weapons need to be able to handle ragers and whatnot

[coarse birch]

its like fringe

[fading vale]

there's no other weapon that can just deal with any melee situation

[royal vortex]

crusher probs shouldn't be able to spam the activations

is the main change i would make

[frozen glen]

how am i gonna boss dps without special h1 spam

[royal vortex]

it's not like u flip the "i survive" switch just by having a crusher

[hushed knoll]

Josho your crusher guy is good

Guide

[royal vortex]

it still requires decent movement and whatnot

[fading vale]

not at all I know, but there is a fairly distinct difference to other weapons

[alpine egret]

what heavy sword is best ?

is it the IX ?

[quaint verge]

Imagine a cranking mechanic for the crusher

[zinc monolith]

Fellow shouties, I require penance aid

[ripe quest]

Giving the power weapons a battery or fuel for the activation would be very pog

Essentially just a cooldown timer

[lofty elk]

crusher is definitely the best all round "I want to win this mission" weapon

[royal vortex]

i think the problem is that you can't really fine tune the dials of melee combat rn

[ripe quest]

but cool

[royal vortex]

because in-game it devolves really quickly

i think being able to go "i spam special l1/h1 into the bulwarks/maulers/crushers" isn't great gameplay and on that front i'd agree, a little less activated CC would make it a bit more reasonable

but the crusher's whole kinda special thing is that you're able to handle more in melee because this weapon is THE crowd control thing

[ripe quest]

I have no backing but I still think Chainsword hits the mark for peak generalist weapon. It survived the Rampage fix glamorously.

[fading vale]

I think they kind of overdid the spawn directions

[royal vortex]

the old elite density was way too low

but i also didn't ask for waves of literally 15-20 ragers

[frozen glen]

peak generalist is still the rashad

absurdly op

[royal vortex]

yeah. i think crusher could use one

thammer is the only activated weapon i would say is fine with the way the activation works

[fading vale]

sure but it also does high damage now, I mean I don't think it's super OP or anything but idk

obviously current rashad should be deleted lol

[royal vortex]

yeah. i think this mostly goes away if you tune down the activations in certain ways

[lofty elk]

crusher dosnt do best dps but the knockback and your survivability makes it best for winning the game for your team

[royal vortex]

the light/pa should only have infinite cleave

[ripe quest]

It's got some differences to Chainsword, worse crowds better small elite and ST. The line in which generalist is determined is a bit subjective.

[royal vortex]

and you should have a (short) cooldown timer on activation use

[fading vale]

I could see that

[royal vortex]

because the normals aren't huge elite cleave by any means, baseline 2 scab ragers/maulers with the h2 isn't really doing crazy amounts

[lofty elk]

crusher can lockdown hordes of maulers ragers and crushers

[royal vortex]

yea

[lofty elk]

its the ogryn shield of zealot

[royal vortex]

ogryn shield has specific talent interactions that completely warp its damage output tbf

[fading vale]

the shield is just dumb, literally just spam heavies and that's it lol

[royal vortex]

not even spam heavies

spam the h1 block cancel

sometimes h2 if you have a shit ton of gunners/shotgunners

[ripe quest]

Doesn't the H2 have infinite cleave

[frozen glen]

another fucking

[royal vortex]

yea but the h1 iirc has like 11

[frozen glen]

deflector block eff in scab melee

[royal vortex]

and procs BM way better

13.1 cleave on the h1 sorry

[ripe quest]

There are absolutely situations where I'd rather have infinite cleave rather than just 11

[royal vortex]

and those situations very often overlap with using a gun

infinite cleave on the shield still has armor stop so its useless vs maulers/bulwarks/crushers

which narrows it to ragers, shotgunners, and gunners, because it's faster to horde clear with H1

and ragers is more of just spamming heavies because a h2 will stagger them for a decent while anyways

its a very boring weapon and it needs a counterattack mechanic

the push attack is literally right there

[ripe quest]

give it a kick

[royal vortex]

high finesse headshot strikedown with no reason to use it because heavies exist

have a counter-attack fkin double or triple the finesse mod

[fading vale]

they said they were gonna rework the shield but instead they just fatsharked it

[ripe quest]

PA has a better adm for flak iirc

[royal vortex]

doesn't end up mattering cuz u always want to be applying bleed

[fading vale]

granted ogryn is just OP in general so

[royal vortex]

which is another problem

if they let me do 1 major balance overhaul for dt it would be completely reworking ogryn because good lord

it's so boring

and all the weapons are really strong in exactly the same way

[fading vale]

they need to hire crab as the balance lead

[royal vortex]

i fucking WISH dude

[fading vale]

he has fun ideas not boring ideas that are engaging and not just dumb OP stuff

[royal vortex]

crusher is my favorite weapon in the game

it's so cool how it works and how the blessings aren't literally just "here's your weapon but better in every way"

[ripe quest]

The damage I would do to this game if they gave me access to chain weapon balance

https://tenor.com/view/tweaking-wegeekinghard-blud-tiktok-animatronic-tweaking-gif-18331326635054461479

[royal vortex]

if ogryn had like a single loadout that i found engaging beyond

HOLD DOWN MELEE BUTTON

SWAP TO GUN

SHOOT

GO BACK TO HOLDING DOWN MELEE BUTTON

i'd just play that

[fading vale]

I don't like how chain weapons basically seem to be braindead

[royal vortex]

fundamentally chain weapons have a problem with how they work because activation attacks kinda suck in this game outside i would say hammer and crusher

[fading vale]

but as crab mentioned one time, people like braindead and clicky clicky spam

[lofty elk]

ogryn has a bunch of weapons which have strange attack combos

[royal vortex]

the problem is a lot of the combos are legitimately pointless

[ripe quest]

So many fun ways to make the chain weapon activations impactful and fun

[lofty elk]

yeah

[ripe quest]

rather than just oooh big slower thammer hit

[royal vortex]

mk4 is the main combo weapon because they actually made a reason to not just default to heavy spam

the mk2 club is one of the weapons i want them to un-desecrate

there's the special slap -> light punch -> h2 strikedown combo that u have no reason to use

[lofty elk]

why would chain activations suck tho, they do a lot of work

[royal vortex]

the main thing i want is for shred attacks to be something you hold down the weapon special key for

[ripe quest]

It's not that they're bad by any means

[fading vale]

the mechanic sucks overall

[royal vortex]

and they just keep shredding (up to a certain point) as long as you hold it down

[fading vale]

not that they are bad

[ripe quest]

I personally find them boring

[royal vortex]

when i say they suck i mean they are fucking boring and so lame

boltgun did it a hundred times better

[lofty elk]

its very stupid how all active wepaons work the same, get 1 single hit, lasts for 2 seconds

[royal vortex]

the numbers on them are also bad

as in like

i am performing a continuous shred

but a lot of the damage is loaded into the first and last tick

which is super lame

[fading vale]

and then you have weapons like deimos where you never ever use the activation

[royal vortex]

i also generally don't like weapons that are just "activate to do attack but Better"

[fading vale]

yeah

illisi and psword

are lame

[royal vortex]

activations imo should be more ingrained into the moveset or serve a distinct purpose

[minor sage]

does the chaxe still get caught in things

via rev

[ripe quest]

I'd love for activated overheads to stick as long as you hold the button

[minor sage]

when you swing

[royal vortex]

for the hammer and crusher they serve a distinct purpose

[minor sage]

or is it fixed now

[ripe quest]

It still has revs on the base attacks yeah

[fading vale]

according to what people say it's at least much more tolerable

and lights won't cleave anymore so

[open bramble]

@royal vortex I've been enjoying bully 3 a lot. I know that the ranged shit on ogryn is really bonkers atm, but I try to stay away from it and just play aggressive skullbreaker builds, because it's more interesting than obliterating everything with achlys, gorg, or one of the rippers in a gunlugger super tank build

Oh, and shovel 3 is fun

[royal vortex]

mk3 is p fun

[open bramble]

Because you can perma stagger monstrosities

[royal vortex]

my problem is like

there's just not enough going on with any ogryn melee

[fading vale]

perma staggering monstrosities is also pretty sus

idk why they did that

[open bramble]

Yah, I get what you're saying

[willow vale]

When you pick up 3 med-stims in a row to help the low HP Zealot.

[royal vortex]

with skullbreaker im legitimately just mashing heavy attack into a horde and i never die unless i get disabled

[minor sage]

how is the krouk cleaver

[royal vortex]

versatile

[open bramble]

There's a lot about ogryn that is sus. at the moment lol

[fading vale]

yeah....

[royal vortex]

the mk4 is good, the mk6 is turbo aids

[coarse birch]

ogryn is a mess

[fading vale]

like free 66% TDR lol

[minor sage]

do you get variety when you play with the krouk

[royal vortex]

uhhh

[minor sage]

cuz i know most of ogryns weapons

[royal vortex]

it has some basic combos

[minor sage]

is just heavy heavy heavy heavy

[open bramble]

Yeah, pretty much. You only die with ogryn if you stop paying attention and get cc'd by dogs or nets

[minor sage]

or light light light light

forever

[royal vortex]

light light heavy or heavy light light for single target

[minor sage]

lmao

[royal vortex]

push attack -> light -> heavy -> light repeat for horde

but its meh

[minor sage]

heck the most complex combo i've played so far is the heavy special heavy

[royal vortex]

don't have to hit headshots or anything

[minor sage]

on club1

the class just

is braindead

[royal vortex]

i had people telling me a 200 toughness build that tanks snipers straight to toughness is squishy

there's so much braindeath going on

[minor sage]

well are ppl still telling them

to run hp curios

LOL

[fading vale]

bro you have no idea

[open bramble]

So many ogryns still haven't figured out how strong stacking toughness is

It's insane

[royal vortex]

nah most of the ogryn chat regulars have moved on to toughness

i'll give em that

[fading vale]

I got pinged about curios in ogryn chat once like 2 months ago

[open bramble]

Not in chat

Those guys are fine

[fading vale]

and I said use toughness

[open bramble]

I'm talking about the randos I group with

[royal vortex]

pubgryns are still fkin dumb most of the time but thats pub players

[minor sage]

laz got flamed kek

[fading vale]

and then I got omega dogpiled

[open bramble]

But I guess that's for all classes

Yeah

[minor sage]

nah

you want a bit of hp

on the humans

bit of both

[fading vale]

I just said don't run all HP

[royal vortex]

i like 1 hp on psyker/vet because bursters

[fading vale]

and they were like BUT BIG NUMBER

[delicate shadow]

I full send toughness on zealot

[royal vortex]

on zealot it's w/e tbh most of the time my hp goes from half or full to 1 because of a random overhead anyways

[delicate shadow]

and ogryn but playing ogryn makes me itch

[royal vortex]

i've had a couple times where a good balance proc + a hp curio saves me from proccing until death on an overhead

which is nice i guess

but like honestly the curio debate is really tiring because a bunch of jackasses will hit you with "you must only play regular damnation" or w/e if you say something like

"yeah a single sniper res is fine"

[minor sage]

i really fucking hate

the mauler/crusher sounds though

[fading vale]

then you have the stam regen zealots

[minor sage]

I wish they would've just played it when they spawned in or something

cuz i literally cant hear any specials anymore

with that CLANK CLANK CLANK

[fading vale]

I am praying they are fixing the audio engine

[rotund locust]

Any suggestions of what to do with this:

[ripe quest]

"idk I have 1k hours I never see anyone use x curio perk" is my favorite

[royal vortex]

upgrade thrust, swap specials to unyielding

and this is a very good ironhelm

[rotund locust]

Excellent 🙂 Thank you!

[royal vortex]

one day ppl will catch on that playtime very depressingly doesn't equate to knowledge

[fading vale]

what about the flamer dude running fan and showstopper telling me not to question his kit of 800 hours

[north sedge]

hell yea

[fading vale]

"fan buffs showstopper" and "showstopper spreads fire"

[rotund locust]

I also have this one...

[minor sage]

fan?

[fading vale]

fan the flames

[royal vortex]

first one has better stat distribution, but that's also ok

[ripe quest]

fan buffs showstopper sends me

[minor sage]

does that blessing even do anything LOL

[royal vortex]

i like slaughterer way more on the ironhelm because the special cleave means you don't really struggle for getting it stacked

[fading vale]

nope

[minor sage]

i think anything that gets staggered

gets staggered on baseline

and anything that doesnt

doesn't even with it

[fading vale]

perhaps crushers but that would be the only thing

[north sedge]

showstopper spreads fire though

😔

[fading vale]

can't say I've tested fan on crushers

[rotund locust]

good to know - thanks! Haven't really messed with the hammers too much yet

[ripe quest]

I like that it makes puffing hordes when you're right in-front of them a bit safer.

That's like, the only utility I've had with it

[fading vale]

I mean, puff by default staggers everything that's not a crusher

maybe you need 2 puffs on some things but like

oh no

[ripe quest]

I swear it does something for hordes, no way I placebo'd those tests

[royal vortex]

i wish there was like a hand flamer or something

a smaller variant with more mobility and not god-awful swap time for less ammo would be cool

[polar nexus]

What about 36% Stam Regen?

[fading vale]

I'll walk up to rager or mauler packs and just puff stunlock them with blaze/overpressure

[ripe quest]

I imagine a faster pullout Flamer will be a thing

[royal vortex]

it'd be the only thing that'd tempt me to use it

[ripe quest]

Only so much you can do with Flamer without power creeping old variants

[royal vortex]

but like i want an actual hand flamer

give it like 10 ammo idc just let me swap and quickly use it after CCing guys with the crusher

[quaint verge]

While Stan is talking about mauler dream in the background

[polar nexus]

Imagine if plasma could set stuff on fire

[royal vortex]

lmao

[ripe quest]

oh to have a mini-purge puff as a weapon special on Psyker

[royal vortex]

delete psyker

[fading vale]

what if they gave staves specials

[royal vortex]

no thank u ill keep my WACK

[ripe quest]

I see a Darcy-adjacent pattern here Josho

[sharp zodiac]

Alright let's give this weapon a feel

Ok 2 guys left

[royal vortex]

u cant call me darcy-adjacent i have made genuine contributions to the community

[ripe quest]

someone might crop your messages out of context and try to get Dclaw mega buffed

[royal vortex]

lmfao

[ripe quest]

you just never know

[royal vortex]

i hope when they start making more staffs they like

make them feel meaningfully different

instead of just more weapons with a shitty niche LMB

[ripe quest]

I hope it's another ball staff

[royal vortex]

and a charge attack that is the main draw

[ripe quest]

but it bounces

[north sedge]

voidstrike but it's a curveball

[ripe quest]

hehehe

[royal vortex]

i want a shotgun staff

[fading vale]

nah, eephus

[quaint verge]

Don't mention the name, just say 1984

[royal vortex]

lmao

[ripe quest]

just port beam staff over

give

[north sedge]

coruscation

[ripe quest]

the entirety of battle wizard

[royal vortex]

a staff with the coruscation lmb is all i want

psyker just feels disappointing to me in a lot of ways tbf

they should've gotten more out there with the talents

[fading vale]

what about a staff with any fucking unique lmb (who cares about boring purg lmb)

[royal vortex]

😔

one day

[dense field]

I wish they import a... Oh shit it's assail

Sneaky gits

[royal vortex]

assail is my favorite part of psyker

[fading vale]

it's like they didn't even try to design the staves at all outside of initial thoughts

[minor sage]

vt staves so much better lol

[royal vortex]

because it's way more mechanically interesting than like, any other part of the psyker-exclusive kit including weapons/blitzes/etc

[fading vale]

and now you have a bunch of psykers running the damn revolver or columnus instead

[royal vortex]

hey i use laspistol

[dense field]

Yeah because that was the most enjoyable staff for Sienna

[minor sage]

what do you think of old vs new laspistol josho

on psyker

[royal vortex]

new laspistol feels better to shoot and doesn't strain my hand as much

either works

[ripe quest]

Wait does the new laspistol also have the force push?

[royal vortex]

should

[zenith topaz]

anyone know if there is a zealot melee weapon that has decent cleave and can stagger elites?

[fading vale]

old laspistol is strictly better imo cause more spam for crits, and new one feels more like a gun

[fading vale]

crusher

[royal vortex]

if those are the two categories u value the highest then u want the crusher

[dense field]

I use laspistol for a psyker too, it's fun but i have no idea what am I doing

[zenith topaz]

yea crusher is ok, just feels a bit weak

[ripe quest]

Crusher, Evis, couple other weapons on a technicality

[copper hawk]

Run around w void strike

U dont need anythin else

[fading vale]

it's one of the strongest weapons, see the guide in pins

[royal vortex]

what crusher are u workin with

[zenith topaz]

aight, thx for the help guys

[north sedge]

yes

[ripe quest]

very cool

[dense field]

Define "decent"

Bromentum Caxe fits

[ripe quest]

no

I would not classify what BM Caxe has as cleave

Except the PA

[open bramble]

Isn't crusher like the form-fit perfect answer for that question?

[zenith topaz]

something like power sword XD

crusher is good

[dense field]

Oh

[royal vortex]

p much

[zenith topaz]

ill jsut use that

[sharp zodiac]

Alright that wasn't a good first run

Let's try that again

[royal vortex]

i'd definitely recommend checking out the crusher guide in the pins if you aren't too familiar with the weapon

[ripe quest]

Evis fits it fairly fine too

[fading vale]

an hsword with punishment and headtaker/deathblow might also somewhat fit the bill, but it's not going to stagger everything

[royal vortex]

lotta people end up using it poorly and then getting a bad impression (not saying that's what you're doing but i see it quite often)

[zenith topaz]

im familiar, on a 2nd zealot just trying different weapons, but got too used to veteran aha

[open bramble]

I should probably dump a ton of time into crusher. I have a really well rolled one, and everyone loves the weapon

[sharp zodiac]

No we just got swarmed and my teammate barreled me off the edge

[royal vortex]

dude i saw someone on new years saying it got a "trash rework into a headshot weapon"

[open bramble]

wut

[fading vale]

yeah that happened

[dense field]

I wish the crusher was more visceral (is that the right word?)

The feedback is disappointingly tame

[ripe quest]

oh that guy

[royal vortex]

i like it cuz it ragdolls stuff

[fading vale]

that was the flamer dude

[royal vortex]

the blunt weapons in this game feel comical

[zenith topaz]

the stun lock is insanely strong, but i want something that just does giga dmg at same time

[ripe quest]

Crusher should get whatever ragdolls FS gave XIIIg Chainsword

It's so nutty

[royal vortex]

ogryn shield literally just throws bruisers and shit around when you kill em

[dense field]

It's good but sounds and visuals need to be more gory

[royal vortex]

i kinda like it being more tame

[fading vale]

crusher does great damage, guide should help you learn how, it's more of a combo weapon with finesse

[royal vortex]

cuz like police forces in 40k use it for riot control

[zenith topaz]

yea ill check it out

[royal vortex]

i do want a dif variant of the crusher though

one with the flanged mace model as the base

im not sure what they would do with it beyond making it remember what part of the combo you're in when you activate like hammer

[fading vale]

I wish the crusher model was more meaty, it just seems a bit lame to me

[ripe quest]

You could try a Mk IV Chaxe. The lights will stun lock small elites by default and hit fast enough to stun lock a smallish group with some aim finesse. The heavies have ok cleave, and the blessings benefit it a good amount.

It's a bit different though

[north sedge]

i want one with a vibrate function, and it comes in a package that says "back massager" in quotes

[royal vortex]

the paid skin (the one on the thumbnail in the guide) makes it look so much better lol

[fading vale]

I'm sure everyone can buy it in a year

[dense field]

It's riot control in 40k, it should be gory

[royal vortex]

lmao

it was one of the first rotations and then it just hasnt come back

[native cargo]

I use my crusher as a back scratcher

[sterile schooner]

mk4 chain axe currently my favorite zealot weapon

[fading vale]

man every time I walk by Steve while he's laying on the couch he smacks me

[dense field]

Dclaw my beloved

[sterile schooner]

don't see a lot of people using it in pubs compared to evis but it's so good imo

[ripe quest]

As is mine, been stanning it for a couple months now.

[royal vortex]

i wanna like the dclaw but i dont like the feedback on it

[native cargo]

Steve is asserting dominance

[dense field]

Fair

[fading vale]

I feel like the only reason to like claw is the parry

[royal vortex]

i couldnt use the new chaxe until they added revving sounds to the lights. it was literally just hitting guys with a blunt object

it sounded like a mace

[ripe quest]

Chaxe got a niche now and it's good at it. Very fun stuff.

[dense field]

It's somehow better now than pre-13

[royal vortex]

the dc7 has a cool push attack single target combo

is nice

[dense field]

Or I've gaslit myself

[royal vortex]

but yea a lot of the power is placed into the parry

[ripe quest]

The Chaxe is host to many vfx, sfx, and hitbox goofiness' that it was almost given that the new one would share some of it

[fading vale]

@sharp zodiac god dammit I want a baconator because of you but it's raining and I feel bad ordering in the rain

[ripe quest]

It's storming rn and I just ordered food

If they picking up orders rn they consent

[native cargo]

Me using it pre-hotfix and I'm just bonking and brring. It definitely felt wrong without the cute rev sounds with the light attacks

[fading vale]

this is true

[coarse birch]

bacon burger sounds kinda good....

[fading vale]

but I'm also using it as an excuse to not order a baconator

because you know, it's a baconator

[native cargo]

Matters not. If one demands a baconator one must fight for it in the rain

[quaint verge]

Floppybaconator™

[native cargo]

[coarse birch]

yeah ngl whenever anyone mentions bacon i think of stans bacon

[royal vortex]

FOOD POISONING

MY FAVORITE

[coarse birch]

it is burned into my brain

[royal vortex]

WOOOOO

[fading vale]

you made me do this

[ripe quest]

medium rare bacon

oh god no

[royal vortex]

in stan's words, it was, ahem

"cooked to temp"

[ripe quest]

That's gotta be mold

[coarse birch]

its not even medium rare

its fucking

[royal vortex]

ME AMERICAN MAN

[coarse birch]

rare

uncooked

[royal vortex]

ME USE MEAT THERMOMETER

ON FUCKING

BACON

[coarse birch]

who tf

[royal vortex]

him

[quaint verge]

Stan

[fading vale]

The devil himself

[quaint verge]

Drippings™

[royal vortex]

legitimately nothing makes me more actually mad than the fucking "cheese sink" thing

[quaint verge]

[fading vale]

not even ketchup saltines?

[royal vortex]

no

cuz it's not like about the food itself

although unmelted shredded cheese on chips sounds fairly gross

it's the like, being a gross bastard and eating it over a sink instead of just getting a plate that does it for me

cuz he washes the fkin cheese down when he's done

garbage disposal or not that's just nasty

[fading vale]

what about his inability to eat fruit without getting it all over himself

[royal vortex]

i think that's on purpose

he does that deliberately

[fading vale]

lol

[north sedge]

but he's never faked an ograsm while eating food, so there's that

[fading vale]

like last night when he had a smoothie and he dripped it out of his mouth onto his pillow cause he was too excited

[royal vortex]

wh

ew