veteran-class

[hollow ibex]

[bold sierra]

if the weapons actually feel fitting and nice to look at on the classes, I don't mind. I wouldn't mind if Bolters or Chainswords are balanced to the point where everyone takes them lol

[hollow ibex]

what's the difference between chef's choice and meta lol

[wanton dawn]

You really don't see it ?

[midnight totem]

ugh

[tall torrent]

Power sword / chainsword lol

[midnight totem]

hosted 3 havocs, deranked

deranked one was a pox gas

demoted myself for that one, failed the 37, alas

[hollow ibex]

oh yeah chainsword is a super common pick

[wanton dawn]

Meta is the common man pick. Chef choice is the pro pick.

[hollow ibex]

oh ok lol

wasn't sure what you meant by chef's choice

[tall torrent]

I cooka da pizza

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/894568981946576916.gif?size=48&name=FloppaShake&quality=lossless

[wicked inlet]

Combat axe, claw sword, shovel I think are the top 3 chefs choice rn

Inlove the noise the shovel makes

Like hitting them with a pan

It takes really cool and smart players to make a mediocre weapon shine

The axe is 100 percent a good pick but its a very reptitive playstyle

[wanton dawn]

Yeah but rashad is not mediocre that is the point

[wicked inlet]

I was getting to that haha

The overhead melees smack

[wanton dawn]

My own chef choice was bm lucius but it was very spicy

[tall torrent]

Rashad requires like 5% more brain activity than duelling sword mk4

[wanton dawn]

Also required a mod to not destroy your hand with m3

[wicked inlet]

Makes me wanna cry

[tall torrent]

CIVI is bound to just be duelling swords lol you can only hope psykers don’t ruin it further

[wanton dawn]

But a whole more build dedication, especially before loadout rework

Kinda why it was not meta to begin with

[tall torrent]

Yea that’s 4% out of the 5%

The other 1% is learning not to blow up vs ragers from bad PA timing

[wanton dawn]

Oh well, I am okay seeing common folks moving elsewhere

[wicked inlet]

I wanna be extra silly and use the most cursed melee I can

[tall torrent]

I don’t think they’ll even be thinking about touching the top melee weapons now given a large number of players hard crutch on them

[split lantern]

Guys

Pox gas is in havoc right

[tall torrent]

I hope they buff chain weapons tho

[split lantern]

I’m not insane

[tall torrent]

Yea and it’s horrible lol

[wanton dawn]

Its bayonet. Its blursed

[split lantern]

My friend is gaslighting me

[wanton dawn]

If you use mk3 then its cursed

[wicked inlet]

I wanna use a shovel, good roles on one?

[tall torrent]

Use mk1 or mk7
Uncanny + decimator/skullcrusher/thrust
carapace
flak for mk7, maniac for mk1

[wicked inlet]

Noice

What about the devils claw I wanna use one of those too

[tall torrent]

Mk4 or mk7
Rampage + shred
Flak + maniac

But honestly

If u feel like using a weaker melee

Tac axe is kind of
Way better than DC swords

[wanton dawn]

Chaxe !

Ah yeah, the tac axe. The forgettable one

[tall torrent]

Most people like DC sword for parry vs ragers but
Tac axe heavy attack, PA and SP all stagger ragers and can kill really fast, with much better flak damage

[split lantern]

Currently arguing w someone

Because I proved they were wrong in an argument and they said I was stupid and on drugs and they won’t apologize

And ofc

It’s a fucking smite psyker player

https://tenor.com/view/uncle-ruckus-gif-10559910566393681312

[wanton dawn]

Your loss

[split lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-mario-walking-in-rain-mario-sad-mario-walking-gif-7966847823215482947

[tawny timber]

nah ur wrong

[warm bolt]

Is power sword still one of the meta choices?

Cause i like duelling sword but i realised that maybe some horde clear is a good idea afterall

[steady wolf]

God... smite so op it's winning outside the game too

[wanton dawn]

Yes

[steady wolf]

Erm combat knife is right there!!

[wanton dawn]

He asked for horde clear

[steady wolf]

It does... trust. Just uncanny lacerate

[wanton dawn]

You are comparing to ps

[steady wolf]

Maybe but I have a need for speed + I use double barrel for horde in conjunction with knife

[warm bolt]

Aight thanks mate

[warm bolt]

I mean, if i just keep stabbing the horde will thin out eventually, yes

[steady wolf]

Pretty fast ye, just use db also

ez pz

[hollow ibex]

[steady wolf]

ds4 stare

[wanton dawn]

⚡👁️👄👁️⚡

[rigid pilot]

Horde clear melee weapon? Shotgun

[wanton dawn]

Oh god why is it so big

[warm bolt]

Obese megalodon please

[steady wolf]

tbh power fist all I want

[warm bolt]

Or if you're feeling particularly fancy - votann revolver bolter shotgun

[warm bolt]

Honestly yeah it'd be cool, i wonder why they havent added it yet

[steady wolf]

vet only, next update. I believe.

[warm bolt]

Well i do have some ideas - like how it'd conflict with most primaries

[rigid pilot]

Me 2 years ago when I asked for force greatsword

[wanton dawn]

Next patch is recon nerf patch

[warm bolt]

dont say that please

[terse idol]

FS gives

[warm bolt]

They will only add melta

[terse idol]

FS taketh away

[wanton dawn]

Its always recon nerf patch

[warm bolt]

We got a warp-touched here

[terse idol]

I realy hope they add parry blessings for Dclaw

[warm bolt]

Predicting stuff

[rigid pilot]

I even said it should shoot out psywaves like moonlight greatsword

Maybe I'm the fatshark dev all along

[tawny badger]

devil's claw force sword

[wanton dawn]

Sir that's a psyker weapon

[rigid pilot]

It's a non zero chance fat shark devs read these channels

[steady wolf]

All of them except zealot anyway

[warm bolt]

If they do please make melta like melta, not sm2 shotgun melta

[rigid pilot]

Troo

[wanton dawn]

Not if they want to keep their sanity

[warm bolt]

I wanna roleplay Jurgen

[rigid pilot]

Nerf recon

Recon too stronk

[warm bolt]

They work at gamedev, they had 0 to begin with

[steady wolf]

nerf ds4 first 😭

[wanton dawn]

Fair

[rigid pilot]

#psyker-class message
1 year ago

[steady wolf]

Fxcking leakers...

😠 💢

[rigid pilot]

March 2023 wooboy

[wanton dawn]

Some things never changed though #veteran-class message

[rigid pilot]

Yea I never see pubs play laspistol

[austere pine]

fatshark please give vets flamer

and zealots a melta

[analog mural]

I think it would make more sense to just give vets melta and zealots keep the flamer

[rigid pilot]

Vets get a 1 handed flamer

[warm bolt]

I would love if they added melta but like the melta, not chaff-clearing shotgun melta

Not that i'd cry like a lil bitch if they did but y'know it'd be nice

[warm bolt]

Nah, we get the necromunda flamers

Or loose cannon steals Dante's melta pistol

Rotund elasmobranch we plead

[midnight totem]

Vets get meltagun

... it comes with friendly fire

[warm bolt]

Now you're cooking with gas

[dry cloak]

when heavy plamer for ogryn

[oblique totem]

https://tenor.com/view/sickos-sicko-haha-yes-creeper-gif-25057805

[amber mortar]

is that maccabian dueling sword any fun to use ?

[unreal nova]

Is most op thing. It will be fun for a few runs then you'll just be bored.

[dry cloak]

and it teaches bad habits in the long run

i.e being immortal as long as you dodge

[unreal nova]

But is best safety net if you feel pressured.

Just use it if you are trying things harder than you are used to.

And bonk everything else with funni shovel, yes.

[amber mortar]

i usually use axe or chainsword

[dry cloak]

try power swrd

chain axes

[unreal nova]

Just try everything.

[dry cloak]

yes

[unreal nova]

Do melee mastery on vet.

Is funni.

[dry cloak]

because some poeple will tell you to just go plasma shout ds4

[unreal nova]

Then repeat but with guns on Zealot.

[crimson pebble]

literally every melees viable w vet

especially with weapon specialist juicing the fuck out of it

[dry cloak]

yes

[unreal nova]

I did it without that lul.

Just forgot am not Zealot.

[crimson pebble]

the only three i wouldn't immediately try if youre new is devil claw, shock maul, tac axes not saying their bad but they require more finesse then the others imo

[unreal nova]

Claw is time parries the game, maul is funni tazer stick but leaves you fairly open. IDK, tacaxe is like poor man knoife.

The only advantage it has is it also has the inf dodge but worse.

[frank ledge]

You get used to shock maul

It's mid

Heavy sword tho...

I miss it's glory days when it was zealot exclusive

[crimson pebble]

its just a combat axe that doesnt get brutal momentum but you get a funny stun mechanic in its place

[frank ledge]

[frank ledge]

Don't forget big damage buff with smyker or your own heavy!

Finally I don't have to hate smykers!

[crimson pebble]

i thought its lighting wasnt the same as smite lighting

[frank ledge]

It is, same for the dot lighting below the smite talent

Seems fatshark finally fixed it

[crimson pebble]

might have to try and it on psyker tomorrow then

[frank ledge]

I did, it's still mid, but it's funny mid, you won't be able to hit tho, the zaap effect goes away when you stop channeling

So for soyker it's only handy on the melee talent

[unreal nova]

Is just funni tazer anyway.

[frank ledge]

Yes

[unreal nova]

Tazing bulwarks always funni.

[crimson pebble]

imagine if it had a special psyker interaction where like a 2-5 meter radius around whoever you tazed also got tazed similar to smite

like how the las pistols push while on psyker sends ppl flying

[frank ledge]

I wish FS went that route

Psyker has shock maul, but behaves a bit different

Instead of just sharing weapons (which causes dueling sword situations)

[unreal nova]

I think psykers should just always do some form of force push.

[drowsy aspen]

The saul is mid???

On zealot at least I definitely haven't found that to be the case

[unreal nova]

Yeah, it's not that great against hordes tbh.

[drowsy aspen]

...whaaaat?

[unreal nova]

On vet, not weapon specialist.

[crimson pebble]

comparatively tho its still viable

[drowsy aspen]

Compared to Rashad?

[frank ledge]

Shock Maul is very mid on everyone outside of smyker in team or soyker with melee smite talent

[crimson pebble]

to like 3/4 of melee

[drowsy aspen]

Is this based on damage calcs or vibes

[frank ledge]

Both

[crimson pebble]

martydom shock mauls p funny untill you run into a lot of armor or monstro

[drowsy aspen]

I've tended to find it immensely strong and fast

It's pretty decent against armor

Those overheads, especially on zealot charge

But maybe that's where it differs

[frank ledge]

Damage/cleave is mid
Anti armor is mid
CC is memetier

It's mid overall

Zealot has crusher

[drowsy aspen]

Crowd control is meme tier?

[frank ledge]

Shock maul is just a poor man's crusher

[drowsy aspen]

I need to try this weapon again, I'm quite baffled

I've found it wrecks crowds real fast with its hordeclear combo

[crimson pebble]

its probably zealots weakest option tbh id rather take tacaxe or chainaxe

[unreal nova]

Is st meme. You need hammerblow and such to cc anything bigger.

And pretty sure it stops working on havoc.

[drowsy aspen]

Havoc I can't say

I've not played zealot on anything harder than auric maels

[frank ledge]

DON'T BRING IRONHELM thunderhammer

To Havok

Please

It's painful

[drowsy aspen]

Lmao

I won't

[frank ledge]

I tried, I really tried to make it work

Safe yourself the pain

[unreal nova]

Just go Crucis if you want to go Thammer to delete bosses.

And captains, but that needs teamwork that you bonk when shield down.

[ashen cosmos]

just reinstalled the game after a couple months and i can only afford one of these items if i do all of my contracts

ive always wanted a good power cycle but man that chainsword looking good

[unreal nova]

Just gamble in brunt if you have dockets.

[ashen cosmos]

whats that? i havent kept up with the game for several months so alot of things are new

oh you mean mystery aquisitions? or whatever its called

[wanton dawn]

There have been a craft update

Building a good weapon only require grind and a good grey base, grey or otherwise

[ashen cosmos]

hmm , i see , is there any new way to aquire blessings? last i played you just had to buy a weapon with the blessing you want then scrap it for the blessing and put that blessing on the same weapon just with better stats or perks

[wanton dawn]

You play the weapon or sacrifice your stash to gain mastery for that weapon

The more mastery, the more blessing lvl you can unlock

And you can also improve your weapon lvl upward of lvl 500 (new max)

Also no more lock

[oak gorge]

The ogryns keep eating my bullets 🥺

[unreal nova]

Still need rng cos Hadron can brick your weapons.

It's less common now, but still happens.

[deep bone]

What variant of LasGun is better Mk.VII or Mk.IX

[ashen cosmos]

does the mastery system allow you to select any blessing you want and then progressivley upgrade it?

[warm bolt]

Ye

[ashen cosmos]

oh wow that is a massive improvment compared to the old system

grindy perhaps but better then grind and rng

[warm bolt]

Yeah i enjoy it thoroughly

Fatshark cooked

[ashen cosmos]

il still prob grind for one of those shops weapons , will just oil the gears up since im rusty af

learnt that apperantly playing after a shot or 2 makes me very sharp and attentative to everything lmao

gotta thank my uncle for drinking with him

[wanton dawn]

Oh, i was reading "driving"

[ashen cosmos]

seems like it , il prob need to watch some guide videos and what not to get up to date with the current state of the game

[ashen cosmos]

LMAO

[warm bolt]

Not mutually exclusive

[ashen cosmos]

mm driving and drinking , a good pasttime activity

[unreal nova]

Big swords or toothpicks everywhere.

Nothing between.

[warm bolt]

Yeah probs a good idea, btw, the fastest way to grind mastery exp is to buy a shitton of exact weapon you need (bolters for bolter mastery etc) and consecrate it to green and just sacrifice it in the special tab

Gives the most exp

[ashen cosmos]

i see , seems itll be a grind any way you look at it , but still , sounds better then the old system

[unreal nova]

It is.

Why RNG when you can pick what you want.

[ashen cosmos]

just need to get a good weapon from the shop if i can , might aswell grind the missions , ive been using this thing for so long , still kicking doe

[tame lodge]

IX needs a good amount of investments to be good
So VII

[deep bone]

Thanks

[ashen cosmos]

ahh i get it now , buy alot of weapons of that type then sacrifice them at hadron for mastery xp and then you get the blessings you want

wow that is so much simpler and straightforward then the way it used to be

[warm bolt]

Yeah that's what i did with like my plasma

Mhm

Can get a bit costly

"A bit" is like 200k gold for plasma

[ashen cosmos]

perhaps but way better then before where youd drop 100k for a weapon with good stats while praying for atleast one good perk , then the blessings

this is way better

[ashen cosmos]

alot but i dont think its that hard to get money?

[warm bolt]

Nah, just some golden storm missions and you're good

[ashen cosmos]

those new?

[ashen cosmos]

also between these 2 which would you say is the better pick?

[warm bolt]

Nah, havoc is the new one

[warm bolt]

Personally im biased as i love the chainsword but i heard power sword is a stronger pick overall but i have no experience using it

[ashen cosmos]

did they merge all the marks of weapons onto a single weapon you have??

[warm bolt]

60 cleave doesnt look too good though but that's just me

[warm bolt]

Yeah with enough mastery you just choose the mark you need

[ashen cosmos]

oh that is fucking amazing omg

wow fatshark did good with the game

[unreal nova]

I mean, I did it for flamer to havoc.

[ashen cosmos]

cleave is damage for heavy swipe strikes right? what would be a better alternative if not cleave

[warm bolt]

I'd consult the builds website tbh, i'll only just pick up the power sword today lol

[ashen cosmos]

ye i think il go with power sword aswell , i never really got to use them my entire playtime bc it just did not feel worth it without power cycle

speaking of , last i played i heared they got a bit of a nerf , how they holding up nowdays?

[warm bolt]

Yeah i did it for plasma and lucius

[ashen cosmos]

@warm boltdamn i just realised you gaming gaming , deep rock , helldivers , ROCK AND STONE

[warm bolt]

ROCK AND STONE TO THE BONE

[ashen cosmos]

🤝

[unreal nova]

Nobody left behind.

Not even Doretta.

[ashen cosmos]

HELL YEAH

[warm bolt]

Unless they dont rock and stone, in which case, they aint going home

[unreal nova]

If you leave her behind, you are an elf.

I don't care if you are 3 scouts and the drop ship is in a stupid spot.

[ashen cosmos]

it feels like the game runs way better now compared to last i played

[ashen cosmos]

ROCK AND STONE

@warm boltso if all weapon marks were merged together , does that mean i lost some of the specific weapons i had of different marcs? i can swear i remember having a shotgun that used slugs , but i cant find it anymore , either its on my zealot or its gone gone

[unreal nova]

You can just switch the marks later.

Usually at mastery 7.

[ashen cosmos]

ye ik , ig its a good thing i stopped playing bc it woulda prob felt like a kick in the nuts if some of the marks i had were toasted bc of the merging

i remember i had a good shotty

oh well

i enjoy the new system alot

[unreal nova]

Less rng.

More control.

[ashen cosmos]

once you get the mastery rank requierd you can switch between marks without any more cost right?

[wanton dawn]

Old weapon are kept as is

It is just the craft part

[unreal nova]

Still can get dooked by Hadron, but rng.

[ashen cosmos]

how so

[unreal nova]

There's a bug they failed to fix.

Let's assume an 80 ammo 60 mobility bolt pistol.

Upgrading it at Hadron can change the max to 75 ammo 65 mobility at random.

It's rarer after the fix but can still happen.

[umbral scaffold]

how does this work exactly? i need to use ranged to build stacks of melee specialist?

wish i could just melee specialist all the time, this is making it awkward

[unreal nova]

Just play Zealot at that point.

[umbral scaffold]

everyone plays zealot

i like the shout clutches plus ive got like hundereds of hours in zealot at this point

[desert viper]

not really you just whip out your gun who probably has max stacks already, get a kill, and swap back to melee with the specialist buff activated

rinse n repeat

[warm bolt]

I dont think you lost them so i'd double check zealot first

[ashen cosmos]

will do , but first i want me that power sword

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer40k-horus-heresy-power-sword-gif-25203006

i wonder , is it a game reason as to why we have to charge up our power swords ? or is it lore accurate that human sized power swords need to be charged up before striking?

i cant remember any instance of seeing an astartes power sword be charged up like ours

[ashen cosmos]

yep it was indeed on my zealot

[warm bolt]

Ah nice

[ashen cosmos]

am i tripping?

[warm bolt]

Ye you are

They can run out of juice actually

[tame lodge]

The alternative is that Vets power sword is damaged and not working properly

[warm bolt]

Nah, power field is toggleable on all power swords

An example is in Sigismund book where Sigismund turns it off to not kill a night lord

[ashen cosmos]

huh , did not know that

what you do if that happens? plug it in? lmao

man the game runs so much better now

wcant say the same about helldivers

[warm bolt]

Basically lmao

[unreal nova]

If I remember, it's to not waste the juice left in them.

In sense.

Some prefer just dumping mobility.

Don't think it matters in the long run.

Yes, but some dump mobility over cleave target.

Depends on OCD.

Did you do the event btw?

Play with a lower lvl or havoc?

Ah.

Nope.

And yes, meant that event.

Is a decent amount for newer players.

If you have carries to delete bosses.

Shortcut doesn't work for mats.

There's a skip to final boss fight, but it deletes the material loot from the room.

Cos they add more mechanics to the fight.

Expect sudden vent shifts and such.

[tiny valve]

Guys I haven't played in a little bit but I need to know what's your opinons on bolt pistol for higher difficulty missions? I like and I'm nearlly done levelling it but I feel like I can get more use out of my infantry autogun other than on massive targets.

[warm bolt]

Not for havoc but im pretty sure it's good for regular high difficulty missions

[deep bone]

Trying to get good with executioners stance

Don’t wanna crutch on shout

[dry cloak]

good

[warm bolt]

Nice

[amber mortar]

what its your go to gun guys ?

[dry cloak]

tan shotgun

[tame lodge]

Generally speaking?
Agripina Infantry Autogun

[amber mortar]

ye

[latent parcel]

its a great weapon. I use it in havoc 35-40's fantastic for all difficulties

[steady wolf]

Does Bring it Down! affect bleed tick damage?

Oh, it does

[tawny badger]

Damage do be damage

[charred pulsar]

Best blessings for chain axe?

[tame lodge]

Headtaker Slaughterer

And The 12 can use Thrust

[amber mortar]

What melee kts good for light attack spaming

[tame lodge]

Rashad Combat Axe

[umbral parrot]

I'd take Mobility over Cleave Targets.

[amber mortar]

Dueling maccabian its basicly for heavy attacks right?

[latent parcel]

dump cleave targets not mobility

[dry cloak]

mostly

just not get too used to it

[deep bone]

I like the shock mace on vet

[heavy rover]

I'd say Rashad Combat axe and also the mk III shovel (for light attack spam I like running decimator and skull crusher)

[amber mortar]

Noted

I never used shovel time to change it

And buy that krieg skin

[crisp oak]

I like the mk7 or mk1 more for light attack spamming

[heavy rover]

Yeah, I agree that they're all pretty good with light spam as long as you've got the blessing and perks set up. I personally like the mk3 because of its move set

[crisp oak]

I typically use uncanny+decimator as well on my mk1

(Uncanny+thrust on my mk7)

[heavy rover]

yeah, uncanny and decimator is a good choice as well

[amber mortar]

Which of the shovels have more horizontal light attacks?

[heavy rover]

mk 3 has the most horizontal for light attacks (3 horizontals + 1 vertical), Mk7 light attack is 2 horizontals + 2 verticals. Mk 1 is all verticals for light attacks

[ashen cosmos]

do mastery levels have a cap or are the points finite?

ok nvm its till level 20 mastery , does that give you enough points to upgrade all your blessings?

[heavy rover]

yeah, once you hit level 20 mastery, you'll have all the points needed for all blessings

[ashen cosmos]

fuck yea

[crisp oak]

Will add the verticals on the mk1 have a good chance to onetap trash

And the heavies are all horizontal

[ashen cosmos]

spoiled of choice right now , so many of the games i gravitate around are in a good spot and now darktide is back on the list

[crisp oak]

And the heavies cleave is pretty good

[amber mortar]

Tough choice i need to think

[light ridge]

Just don't try to kill anything that has a minimum of armor with the mk1

[crisp oak]

Flak is fine

Just cara is rough

[ashen cosmos]

are you still limited to 2 changes at hardon weather its perks and blessings?

[crisp oak]

Nope

[light ridge]

The Mauler dies from boredom

[crisp oak]

All customizeable

[heavy rover]

locks are gone

[ashen cosmos]

you can change as many times as you want??

[heavy rover]

yep

[crisp oak]

Poke him in the crotch and he cant hit you

[ashen cosmos]

OH BOY

[crisp oak]

Yup

[amber mortar]

Ooo btw is maul any good?

[crisp oak]

I dislike the maul

Personally

[amber mortar]

I never saw any vet with it

[crisp oak]

Feels short

[light ridge]

My favorite

[ashen cosmos]

feels good , bonks most enemies in one shot

[crisp oak]

Like feels like knife range, but without the knife speed

[amber mortar]

Its slower than rashad axe?

[crisp oak]

About the same speed, but feel like less range

[amber mortar]

Damn

[light ridge]

It's about the same but better crowd control, same range too

[crisp oak]

Is it, weird

Anyway Id use the rashad over it

[light ridge]

When I play Rashad I miss the crowd control of the maul

[ashen cosmos]

reblessing and reperking dosent cost materials anymore? or did it never do

[light ridge]

Would love something in between the two, speed of Rashad, crowd control of maul

[amber mortar]

Power stick

[pseudo fiber]

It doesn't cost it anymore no (well costs ordos but they're whatever)

[ashen cosmos]

that is fucking awsome

so the only thing that costs resource anymore would be raising the rarity of something?

[pseudo fiber]

And empowering it too

[light ridge]

Raising rarity and power level

[crisp oak]

They added a new onentime sink of empowering

[ashen cosmos]

thats a new system isisnt it?

[light ridge]

Went through all my Diamantine levelling weapons

[crisp oak]

Yup

[pseudo fiber]

Yes that's the new system

Raising a weapons power to 500

[ashen cosmos]

i see , is there any way to get materials other then finding them in maps?

[pseudo fiber]

It still makes me laugh that reworking crafting like quadrupled the regular player base

[pseudo fiber]

• Havoc (the new mode) gives a reward chest at the end of the week
• Events they do every now and then give rewards too (I think there's one on now?)

There's gonna be an event in January too

[ashen cosmos]

ye theres an event rn

[odd sparrow]

many players were very unhappy with having to gamble for progression which was fair

[ashen cosmos]

ive got 17 euros left from buying space marine 2 and im kinda itching for some cosmetics

[wanton dawn]

The old system provided players with a sense of pride and accomplishment for unlocking different weapons.

[ashen cosmos]

i just did a mission for the new tech preist and i love that dude 😭

bor called me a pre servitor

[pseudo fiber]

Kayex the goat

[ashen cosmos]

is there any specific mission type thats more likey to spawn a monstrosity?

[ashen cosmos]

hell yeah

[odd sparrow]

true i felt so accomplished after rolling for power cycle 20+ times and never getting it.

[ashen cosmos]

me grinding rn for the power cycle 3 in melks shop

just a wee bit more

[left patrol]

this is elitist cope

you felt two seconds of pride, sure, but hours and hours of dread and pain with shitty rolls through no fault of your own

[vital wren]

That's definitely not a serious comment. "Sense of pride and accomplishment" is a meme from SWBF2 I think it was.

[deep bone]

I prefer the new system it lets me actually try new builds without having to gamble for a good roll ok every weapon lol

[left patrol]

if it is then fair enough and I'm sorry, it's hard for me to tell what's sarcasm in text

[vital wren]

Understandable, it's been a while since that debacle now. 🙂

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/star-wars-battlefront-ii-unlockable-heroes-controversy

Most downvoted comment on reddit ever I believe.

[radiant chasm]

It’s sarcasm

[left patrol]

my bad im a little slow

[vital wren]

Hey but you get to learn about a classic EA gaming fail!

[left patrol]

learn? I was there when it happened

I just don't recall the meme after so many years

[faint beacon]

Very vividly recall when you had to roll for each variant as well so you’d get lucky with the worst variant LMAO

[left patrol]

I miss that game honestly. it was really good in it's prime, but it's pretty dead now.

[left patrol]

hope you like this variant you never use cuz boom it's your only god roll

[faint beacon]

Brunt blessing me with the worst VA variant so I unironically started maining it

[near abyss]

I haven't played since end September. Have veteran builds changed?

[pastel pumice]

To adapt to Havoc? Yeah

[ashen cosmos]

so whats the deal with knives? ive seen some people say they rly good

[dry cloak]

because they are

[pseudo fiber]

High dodge distance with great single target and okay horde clear

[ashen cosmos]

they seem to crit alot

maybe in the future il try to make a proper build for one

[hollow ibex]

they're ok on vet

[ashen cosmos]

ok i can see why ppl like knives

[ashen cosmos]

what are they most optimal on?

[crisp oak]

They are fine on vet, but excel on zealot

[near abyss]

No. For starters, I am interested in usual Auric Damnations

[crisp oak]

For vet they let you do some.... funny things

[sleek garden]

Why does falter on the shock maul affect ranged stagger

[ashen cosmos]

i see

whys there no way to see your crit %?

[light ridge]

Falter doesn't do a whole lot on shock maul, Hammerblow has a much more noticeable effect

[drowsy sluice]

is this worth picking up or should I look for a different dump stat?

[crisp oak]

Mobility should be the dumpstat

[drowsy sluice]

Alright, will keep looking then

[pastel pumice]

@near abyss Honestly you can do a lot with any sort of build and it'd be reliable

but im no build goat

@tall torrent is

[hollow ibex]

Zealot or even psyker

[vale wraith]

Psyker is pretty good with em because it can really be used on any build

Uncanny strike works on soul blaze so yeah

[sleek garden]

do wrath and savage sweep get you to 400% cleave

[hearty panther]

they do yes

[oak gorge]

guys do you think sefoni likes me

[ashen cosmos]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1230557877127614567/1322251520351277150/image.png?ex=67703230&is=676ee0b0&hm=d12cf444e6f3f45b5700dfc4a99a3ea82565798d92fe702d54def7fbdcf23483& can i just go in a mission kill 9 dudes then leave?

[ashen cosmos]

oh ye zealot did have that one skill tree thats around stealth?

[hollow ibex]

yeah though it's mainly because zealot can stick stupid crit chance

[tame lodge]

Because FS just ported the tooltip over

💀

[ashen cosmos]

hm il have to try

[ashen cosmos]

please say thats possible bc ive been going insane tryna do that

[tame lodge]

Ideally you'd want a collateral dump

Because it's only stagger on a weapon not really known for staggering

[hollow ibex]

honestly you could prob dump mobility, stab or collat

but definitely not ammo

[drowsy sluice]

so Collat dump > mobility dump > nothing else

literally the first brunt purchase after a mission to farm money

[hollow ibex]

that works

doesn't make a huge difference what you dump between mob/collat

[drowsy sluice]

now which mark is best 12, 14 or 6

[pastel pumice]

depends

i like the 12 for its ammo

[hollow ibex]

All of them are good

[charred pulsar]

Why using anything that isnt dueling sword or combat blade feeels so fcking bad

[hollow ibex]

14 has cleave. 6 has ammo economy and 12 has brrrrrt memes

[austere mica]

Because they are overpowered as shit

DS is the best melee in the game

[hollow ibex]

Well knives are fine. DS is busted

[austere mica]

Knife just has goofy mobility

[pastel pumice]

knife so fun to play with

DS even more

Those heads never looked any more safe with me around

[austere mica]

DS is boring as hell

its light spam or heavy spam

No nuance

[pastel pumice]

Fun

So mind numbingly fun

[charred pulsar]

Bought a pretty skin fo the chain axe, tried it out at the pkikeniun feels okay, in an actual match is awful

[austere mica]

Because its slow as shit

[charred pulsar]

And also get stuck in animation cz chain shenanigans

[pastel pumice]

wait so are you using shit as a constant

[tawny timber]

chainaxe is the last melee weapon i have to get to mastery level 20 😭

[pastel pumice]

you said overpowered as shit

now slow as shit

[austere mica]

Idk

[pastel pumice]

is shit a good thing or bad thing

[pastel yew]

its fun

[charred pulsar]

By the time the special finish I could have deal with the enemy with a combat blade or pop his head with the tootpick DS

[pastel yew]

just not the one that sticks on lights... gross... stinky

the mk 12? or whatever is cool

[austere mica]

This is a universal flaw with chain weapons

But you are also comparing it to two of the best single target weapons

[pastel pumice]

revving would be so much more fun and good to use if it'd stay on

[crisp oak]

Especially when the special doesnt kill a crusher

[austere mica]

Which isn't fair at all

[pastel yew]

dueling sword is giga op

[terse idol]

Well to be fair ds yeah

[crisp oak]

If the special killed a crusher it might make sense

[pastel yew]

knife is also easy S tier

[pastel yew]

it does with thrust

[crisp oak]

Or if the weapons got iframes while sticking

[pastel yew]

or with headtaker/slaughterer stacks

[crisp oak]

This makes it even slower

[pastel yew]

it takes very little time to charge thrust

[austere mica]

Holy shit this .22lr pistol is ass it doesn't kill stuff nearly as fast as my .357 revolver

[crisp oak]

Like the shovel is faster

[pastel yew]

honestly it's time to kill crushers isnt so bad

it's just by comparison its really slow

but what it's being compared to is like... S tier or OP weapons

[crisp oak]

Yeah its slowness is the issue

[pastel yew]

nah

the only real weakness the chainaxe has is horde clear

[crisp oak]

Eh its fine on the mk12

[pastel yew]

its elite and crusher kill times are totally valid

[austere mica]

And having terrible dodges

[crisp oak]

The mk4 made me sick

[pastel yew]

eh I mean the distance isn't super long but you're not running this without WS anyway

[radiant chasm]

it's the best one

people just need to realize it's extremely boring

[pastel yew]

huh?

I'm not sure I agree

[radiant chasm]

mk12 is easier

sure

[crisp oak]

I had so many janky sticks with it

[radiant chasm]

mk4 is safer, and has a better PA and crowd control

don't

use lights for anything but single target

[crisp oak]

Where it would force my camera 180

[radiant chasm]

that's it

[pastel yew]

the mk 12 push attack is already super good

[hollow ibex]

Both are ok, but they suffer from chain weapon syndrome

[pastel yew]

but I am a sucker for thrust weapons

[radiant chasm]

mk12 PA doesn't clear space in front of you tho

[austere mica]

It can pen a bulwark shield

[pastel yew]

no it's fast single target damage with a shove

[crisp oak]

Like Im aiming for a rager in front of me, and it decides that Its sticking onto a poxwalker behind me

[radiant chasm]

not really, mk4 just suffers from slow clear and poor dodges

[pastel yew]

they both suffer from that

[radiant chasm]

are you rev heavying?

[austere mica]

I think you can oneshot a bulwark through the shield with mk12 PA and a FotF rev

But thats zealot

[pastel yew]

but you get 4 dodges its just the distance is a lil gimpy

[drowsy sluice]

question for recon perks/blessings, infernus seems good, but what should I pair with it and what perks should I spec?

[radiant chasm]

on the mk12 you have the heavy anyways

[crisp oak]

Nah lights on a single rager in front of me

[radiant chasm]

that really shouldn't be happening after like

[pastel yew]

the push attack is faster and more useful for certain enemies like dogs

[radiant chasm]

patch13 or 14

when they fixed the camera

[austere mica]

So here's the funny bit, its not good

[crisp oak]

Welp while I was doing masteries it happened lik 10 times total (did masteries on it from 1-18)

[austere mica]

It looks good

But is only niche on one variant

[pastel yew]

infernus is totally fine, burn funnny

[hollow ibex]

Infernus is good

I’ve come around to infernus

I run it on all my recon las now

[radiant chasm]

infernus is great on pox hardened

[charred pulsar]

Fair, but also aesthetically it looks wack, like, what does more dmg? A huge piece of metal that power up a chain the size of a torso or tootpick

[hollow ibex]

And it’s mandatory for recon las in havoc

[pastel yew]

dum dum + infernus

[pastel yew]

video game though, weapons need strengths and weaknesses

its just a lot of the strongest weapons barely have weaknesses

[austere mica]

Stop comparing things to DS and life will be better

[charred pulsar]

Yeah

[pastel yew]

unironically the chainaxe is one of the best balanced weapons in the game, just give it a tiny bit of attack speed and its cooking

[tawny timber]

irl the toothpick stayed relevant for hundreds of years longer than most other edged wepon

[pastel yew]

bingo

[charred pulsar]

Its fine, but I bought this pretty skin and want to use it but need to do extra sweat to make this work

[radiant chasm]

but how am i supposed to enjoy things if I don't constantly compare them to Plasma/Revolver

or dueling sword power sword

smh

[pastel yew]

people unironically wanna buff everything to that level

💀

[austere mica]

They should be shot

[charred pulsar]

Depends, you have pretty skins for those? revovler looks wack without skin

[radiant chasm]

i agree with that on vet, chaxe is a weapon that will push you to take melee boosting talents to actually support it

[pastel yew]

yeah without weapon spec attack speed the chain axe feels pretty awful

trench fighter drill at a minimum

[austere mica]

I care not because my revolver could be a flamethrower if I wished

[pastel yew]

though it is so depressing to use something like the chaina xe

then have 2 ds players join your game

and just one shot the crusher you're specialling

[austere mica]

Kill them

[pastel yew]

;-;

[austere mica]

Barrel them

[charred pulsar]

Revolver looking like an exhaust pipe by default

[pastel yew]

honestly true...

"woops accident..."

I think the default revolver looks fine

[austere mica]

Their dodges have reduced their situational awareness

[pastel yew]

but honestly lack of consideration is my main issue with lots of op weapons

like I wouldnt care about plasma gun users being in my game if they just shot

anything else but the thing I'm trying to melee

fortunately most plasma gun users are awful so

least its not common

[charred pulsar]

Look at this edgy beauty

[austere mica]

Mine has a scope longer than the barrel on it

Same with my dbarrel

[charred pulsar]

At least this one works for xmas lmao

[austere mica]

(I hate scopes in DT but both are brace weapons so I don't care)

[ashen cosmos]

im guessing they removed destroying weapons at hardon for their blessing?

[austere mica]

Yes

[wanton dawn]

Sir this is for detress signal

[austere mica]

But you can crunch them for mastery

[pastel yew]

you now sacrifice those weapons for mastery xp

[ashen cosmos]

how do you unlock all the blessings from the mastery tree then ? some are not showed

[pastel yew]

just only sacrifice weapons of the same type to itself

you get way way more xp

like 4-5x or something stupid

[austere mica]

Wdym some are not shown

That page is everything available for that weapon

[austere mica]

It doesn't have those

PS only has 8

[ashen cosmos]

oh , well then

[pastel yew]

oh thats just filler

[austere mica]

(cause its a lame ass weapon)

[charred pulsar]

Comodor I want a refund, this weapon suck ass

[austere mica]

You would only use PC BM anyway

[pastel yew]

effectively only 3 anyway

[charred pulsar]

But it looks pretty tho

[pastel yew]

mk12 looks better

it has a fucked up lookin spike

[charred pulsar]

Is not black or is it?

[ashen cosmos]

whats the go to blessings and perks for a power sword ?

[charred pulsar]

I want stuff to mix with my fashion

[austere mica]

Power cycler brutal momentum

[tame lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/nanami-nanami-kento-jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-gojo-gif-9721827202022859485

[wanton dawn]

Power cycler, sunder/bm, then it depends

[austere mica]

Its hilariously strong

[ashen cosmos]

ah perfect then 💀

[pastel yew]

cant memeber I use weapon customization anyway

[ashen cosmos]

the power sword i had got from melk has both

[charred pulsar]

Hmmm grey ish, I like this black one more tho

[ashen cosmos]

what about perks , flak would be good and what else?

[charred pulsar]

But looks good

[wanton dawn]

Maniac, unarmored, carapace, unyielding can work. I guess elite too

And flak yes

[pastel yew]

unyielding is fun if you run the mk6

since its boss damage is p good

I dont think you need carapace with the mk6... with the push attack light combo

[tame lodge]

Woops, seems like you did a bad purchase
Now you'll have to play this weapon you hate to make sure you spent your money well

[pastel yew]

I might be incorrect

[tame lodge]

[wanton dawn]

Carapace is for no ammo maelstrom mostly

[ashen cosmos]

i generally dont wanna be in melee range with anything that has carapace on it

[charred pulsar]

Yeah thats what Im talkinga abt lately lmao

Will make it work

[ashen cosmos]

is crit any good on weapons?

[charred pulsar]

For vet? not really

Unless psiker

But we are not on psiker channels

[crisp oak]

Well bad news scab ragers now have crapace

[ashen cosmos]

ah , right , no wonder i was hearing that dink sound when you hit carapace on them

[wanton dawn]

#veteran-class message

[ashen cosmos]

ig il just get carapace and flak

[hollow ibex]

carapace is the best stuff to melee

you don't need flak on PS

PS already shreds flak

[charred pulsar]

Blessing for sapper shovel? mark 3

[ashen cosmos]

then what else , might aswell experiment if now you can change perks as much as you want

[unreal nova]

You just wanna stab head.

[wanton dawn]

Unyielding maniac helps your stab bp

[hollow ibex]

elite/unyielding + maniac works

you don't need carapace on mk6

[wanton dawn]

For havoc i got unarmored on mine for horde

[ashen cosmos]

whys that?

[hollow ibex]

oh yeah this is talking about non-havoc

[ashen cosmos]

also mine is mk3

[hollow ibex]

you should switch to mk6 (it's free)

[ashen cosmos]

oh right i forgor

[hollow ibex]

you delete crushers with the push attack / L4 combo

no need for carapace

[wanton dawn]

Carapace is specifically for a maelstrom mod

Otherwise you dont need it much

To be more precise, you mostly need footwork

[ashen cosmos]

stabby to the head with power on?

[wanton dawn]

Stab+followup

[ashen cosmos]

mom told me i got a wodden leg so not much luck there lmao

[hollow ibex]

yeah stab, and then light attack

[ashen cosmos]

😭

[hollow ibex]

and then light attack again if they're still alive

[ashen cosmos]

when i had to learn to dnace for my brothers wedding she made me take shots with her to "loosen up"

[ashen cosmos]

alr will look into it

do its normal or heavy attacks to sweeps or single target?

[wanton dawn]

You dont need heavy with mk6

[hollow ibex]

you don't use heavies at all on mk6 yeah

for hordes you just light attack

[ashen cosmos]

they bad?

[wanton dawn]

Kinda

[hollow ibex]

just worse than spamming lights

[wanton dawn]

It is like charged plasma shot

You can play without

And you should

[ashen cosmos]

but the cool factor

[wanton dawn]

That's what stab is for

[pastel pumice]

That combo is absolutely horrid

For the enemy

PS PA + L2

[ashen cosmos]

i dont speak in controler or what that is

[pastel pumice]

Push attack

Then follow up with 2 lights on a Crusher

[ashen cosmos]

ahh

[hollow ibex]

akshually it's PA + L4 🤓

[pastel pumice]

Their head becomes nonexistent

Ermmmm

Took me 2Ls

Muhehehe...

[ashen cosmos]

alright so dont need carapace then , maybe dont need flak unyelding and manic then?

[hollow ibex]

yeah unyielding or elite + maniac

[pastel pumice]

elite + maniac is my combo

[hollow ibex]

i'd test that single target combo against crusher

[ashen cosmos]

you can have 3 perks?

[wanton dawn]

Maniac has good os bp, unyielding is for boss

[ashen cosmos]

oh nvm

im dumb

[hollow ibex]

if you can't get the 2 or 3 tap against crusher

take elite

[pastel pumice]

but yes, PA + L4 is the combo that should kill the crusher

ymmv

[hollow ibex]

it'll prob depend on your talent setup too

[pastel pumice]

^

[hollow ibex]

so definitely do a quick test before taking unyielding

[ashen cosmos]

alright , just gotta rank up the power sword a bit

[hollow ibex]

over elite that is

[pastel pumice]

the shit I learn from just lurking in chat

[ashen cosmos]

it be like that

do people still buy stock weapons from brunt to get ones with good stats then work em up?

or is there a different way now

[crisp oak]

Yes

[pastel pumice]

thats the only way to do it

[crisp oak]

But you empower them first now

[pastel pumice]

if you have a lot of mats and dockets to spare

[ashen cosmos]

guessing that reffers to mastery level?

[pastel pumice]

just buy a shit ton of the same gun, consecrate them to Green or blue

then sacrifice them

[crisp oak]

Yup

[ashen cosmos]

what does empower do exactly?

[hollow ibex]

you basically need level 19 mastery

it raises the base stats of the weapon

until you max them out based on the cap for that weapon

[pastel pumice]

youre basically upgrading your gun

[hollow ibex]

each weapon has its own cap

[pastel pumice]

or weapon

[ashen cosmos]

alot of things to take in , will take a while till they spin smoothly in my head

no matter , i gotta grind the mastery first

[pastel pumice]

good luck broski

[hollow ibex]

it becomes pretty intuitive once you work with the system a few times 👍

you really just want to reach mastery level 19 on the weapon

[ashen cosmos]

will do , for now doe , i think its time for a break

[hollow ibex]

so you can empower to max

[ashen cosmos]

just one last mission to test the power sword in action , ive worked all day to complete all contracts to get it

[pastel pumice]

will be easier when you get back on track

[hollow ibex]

PS might take some getting used to

it's a janky weapon (but strong)

so give it some time, don't immediately give up on it

[austere mica]

It has a very hard time regaining momentum

[hollow ibex]

remember to block cancel after charging

[austere mica]

Give it up before you start

[ashen cosmos]

so you get a good gray weapon with decent stats then upgrade it to yellow and then empower it as much as you can and then slap on the perks and blessings you want?

[crisp oak]

I would empower it to max first

[austere mica]

My passionate hatred for this weapon is incontainable

[crisp oak]

Ive had pieces lost by getting them to orange

[ashen cosmos]

whats the difference if you do it other way around

lost?

[crisp oak]

(The stats can glitch out and change)

[ashen cosmos]

oH

[crisp oak]

Just happened to a heavy stubber of mine yesterday

[ashen cosmos]

i see

[ashen cosmos]

why lmao

[hollow ibex]

it's very janky

[austere mica]

Its sooooo booooooooriiiiiing

And people crutch hard on it

[hollow ibex]

well it's more interesting than something like a rashad

so there's that

[austere mica]

The amount of plas PS vets I see fold to nothing is incredible

[crisp oak]

Ya know I have 3 melees left to mastery on vet

One of them is the psword

[wicked inlet]

Thoughts?

[hollow ibex]

deadshot memes?

for recon las i assume?

[pastel pumice]

the only way to please and impress @austere mica now is if you use a literal toothpick and a rock slinger

[wicked inlet]

Nipe

[austere mica]

Hey I'm fine with like

[ashen cosmos]

did they nerf brunt or something bc man he gives some shit weapon stats , i am almost bankrupt

[austere mica]

Everything but DS and PS

[ashen cosmos]

0% bruh

[austere mica]

I hate those two melee's specifically

[crisp oak]

If thats recon drop the focus target upgrade, pick up las trooper

[hollow ibex]

oh right no shock trooper. vraks mk v then?

[austere mica]

and Plasma and specifcally zarona revolver

[wicked inlet]

Yes vraks mark v

[pastel pumice]

do you hate the melees or the people who use them?

[austere mica]

Agri is cool

[crisp oak]

Ah ok

[pastel pumice]

what if the person using them has a big heart?

[austere mica]

Both

[pastel pumice]

what if they do REALLY REALLY good

[hollow ibex]

looks fine but i think deadshot is a bad idea, as is onslaught. but if you find them fun, go for it

i'd swap out get back in the fight for catch a breath tho

[pastel pumice]

@ashen cosmos dont worry about the nominator, worry about the denominator

[ashen cosmos]

i am confused

[pastel pumice]

like we suggested, empower your weapons and that 0% will be but a memory

0/0

Worry about the

[crisp oak]

Id also run out for blood

[pastel pumice]

0/0

[crisp oak]

That toughness regen is clutch with spraying

[wicked inlet]

I play this build like a frontliner, in the face of everything constantly moving and doging to get stamina back with duck and dive so I consistently have stamina

[austere mica]

My hatred for PS DS zarona revolver and Plasma is unconditional

[pastel pumice]

SO...

You use it

It's like a sneaky midnight snack

[austere mica]

No

[hollow ibex]

how many stam curios are you taking

[austere mica]

I don't

[pastel pumice]

Not judging you if you do

[austere mica]

I only own a DS on psyker

[pastel pumice]

We all love you

[wanton dawn]

I hate hater

[austere mica]

and I own a plasma PS build because it was my first actual build and i'm keeping it for the VoC penance I haven't completed

[pastel pumice]

Which one is thta

[austere mica]

Just restore toughness

[pastel pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/jubal-cat-orange-cat-sleepy-tired-gif-25718322

[austere mica]

I have beef with VoC too if you can believe it

[pastel pumice]

hard person to please

[austere mica]

I'm fine with basically everything else on vet I literally just have beef with the OP stuff

[hollow ibex]

same. it's too weak. plz buff 🥺

[wanton dawn]

Nah, it is just meta hating

[vale wraith]

Voice of Command makes my brain tingle

Funny ability

[hollow ibex]

make it give 100 gold tough again 🥺

[austere mica]

All the meta stuff boring!!!!!!!

[pastel pumice]

it becomes boring when everyone uses it and you see it all day every day

[austere mica]

Its boring when I play it

[pastel pumice]

it's actually pretty fun to use the PS

fake jedi

[austere mica]

If I wanted to do that I'd go play zealot with PGS

[wicked inlet]

Combat knife supremacy

[pastel pumice]

Shovel my beloved

[crisp oak]

Eh, voc lets me play super agressively

[pastel pumice]

I still have my starter shovel

[vale wraith]

Based

[crisp oak]

More than book even

[terse idol]

If exe like

[austere mica]

Because book is a channel

[terse idol]

I dunno gave me increased duration on weakspot hit on bosses

I'd be more sold

[crisp oak]

Yup while voc can moreso just be spammed

[terse idol]

Exe can be spammed

[pastel pumice]

wait this might not be it

[crisp oak]

I also like stealth for the same reason

And basically just dont like exe stance

[vale wraith]

Executioners and onslaught basically shred Plague Ogryn and BoN

[terse idol]

Yeah

But it doesn't increase duration at all

[pastel pumice]

i love extending exe for like 5 minutes at a time

[vale wraith]

It comes back in like 5 seconds anyway

[hollow ibex]

onslaught not doing much there, it's prob mostly exec stance

[vale wraith]

It’s good with recon or infantry AG

[pastel pumice]

talking about exe makes me wanna make an exe build again

yall got ideas?

[vale wraith]

Not so much bolters and the like

[vale wraith]

Run it with weapons specialist

Genuinely fun

[hollow ibex]

onslaught just doesn't do much on any gun when you're shooting bosses, it really only makes a difference against carapace

[wanton dawn]

Bolter without shooter tag, brauto with ws

[hollow ibex]

REVOLVER EXEC STANCE 🥂

it's very funny

trust

[vale wraith]

It helps on Havoc if anything

[peak tree]

yarr, you dont give that up. itd be like sacrificing your teddy bear

[vale wraith]

Executioners is fun as fuck, more so than VoC or Infiltrate

[hollow ibex]

well havoc doesn't impact onslaught, adms remain the same

stuff just has more hp

[pastel pumice]

@wanton dawn @hollow ibex My goats, will try, I tried Bolter in the past and it was a blast hitting heads

@peak tree You're fragging right, there, Veteran.

[vale wraith]

That’s what I meant, you should just be taking reciprocity though

[hollow ibex]

exec stance bolter is extremely strong

[peak tree]

bolter is so damn satisfying

[pastel pumice]

So real

[hollow ibex]

revolver exec stance is a meme build

very good, but also takes sooo much ammo

[vale wraith]

Las pistol executioners stance is fun, and genuinely pretty good.

[peak tree]

especially when you just go, hey look, whateverinfrontofmebegone (TM) and its gone in a puff of gore.

empty clip, no more emergency

so fun

5 crushers? 5 corpses.

[ashen cosmos]

ok i lover the power sword

WOOPIE

[vale wraith]

I beg for ranged units being outlined just being a base part of executioners stance.

[ashen cosmos]

was there always the other mark of revoler that has a speed loader?

i cant remeber if it was when i last played

[vale wraith]

It’s been in the game for quite a while

[ashen cosmos]

never knew ngl

[vale wraith]

Like a year or so at this point, I think

[ashen cosmos]

loved the revoler when i last played

is it outclassed by the bolt pistol?

[vale wraith]

Speed loader is pretty inferior to regular revolver though, not bad but outclassed

[vale wraith]

Revolvers better than the bolt pistol

Bolt pistol is still very good

Revolver is still just incredibly strong

Being able to whip out your gun and kill any specialist in a second flat is just too good, bolt pistol is alright at that but not as good as revolver.

[peak tree]

I do need to play with it more. I found it a bit obnoxious to use if I'm honest.

I keep finding myself coming back to the bolter because it does pop heads so well at range but can clear out anything in front of you.

[hollow ibex]

revolver is busted

prob the strongest vet weapon tbh

and then there's exec stance revolver that one-shots crushers

[vale wraith]

Weapon specialist giving it a bottomless clip go brrrr

[austere mica]

Not unique to revolver

[hollow ibex]

yeah WS revolver is prob the way to play it

[hollow ibex]

prob not, still funni

[latent parcel]

revolver sucks in high havoc though 😔

[hollow ibex]

well i prob wouldn't be bringing exec stance into havoc anyway

much less a meme build

[latent parcel]

i just mean in general. not with or without it

[hollow ibex]

yeah ofc

[tall torrent]

6 or 14

[half flax]

Whats the difference between the marks of the power swords

[amber mortar]

if i already have imperial edition and will buy it second time will get aquilas ?

[wicked inlet]

Thoughts?

[crisp oak]

I would drop that node under the frags

And replace it with the left most tag keystone node, or field improv

The former because the toughness gain from tagging will do more toughness gen than 2.5% per second if no enemies in 8m

The latter because it is a teamwide buff

[supple laurel]

average vet build. simple but works

[crisp oak]

Other than that it works

People may bitch about no survivalist

[supple laurel]

i would ditch some tones in there personally though yeah

(need the names of said tones first which is why i gotta pull up the game)