veteran-class

[hidden torrent]

Yeah that one

[quartz adder]

They updated it recently

Belakor

[hidden torrent]

Did they?

[quartz adder]

And a ton of new boons

[hidden torrent]

Ohhhhh

Yeah

[quartz adder]

Well recently as in 1 year ago

[hidden torrent]

I enjoyed that as well

I played that a bunch too

[quartz adder]

THE DARK MASTER RULES THIS LAN- stfu olyesha

arent you supposed to leave us alone because belakor will eat your soul

[hidden torrent]

After beating all the missions on cata I needed something new, I feel that way with Darktide a lot

Havoc is nice but I definitely can tell it'll get old once I get the cosmetics lmao

[tawny timber]

yall

[quartz adder]

, CW is good, challenge runs, the weekly, weaves were good if you could get a team

Also modded difficulty

[tawny timber]

im struggling rn to consistently dodge and not fucking jump

[hidden torrent]

I just played deeds really

[quartz adder]

Rebind

[tawny timber]

i have tried on and off using always dodge

[hidden torrent]

Bhfs was always good

[tawny timber]

to what

[quartz adder]

Alt to jump

[hidden torrent]

I just dodge on shift

But

A lot of people's pinkies aren't as powerful as mine it seems

[quartz adder]

;3

[hidden torrent]

Played too much dayz and Arma I guess lmao

[quartz adder]

(Finger-ing joke)

[tawny timber]

shift is my sprint button

wtf

[hidden torrent]

You can't dodge forward

[tawny timber]

brain moment

[hidden torrent]

Dodge and sprint are my same keys but I don't accidentally dodge while sprinting

[tawny timber]

hmm

ima try it

i tried rebinding to shift when i play vermintide but i couldnt stand it

[quartz adder]

Deeds are nice

[hidden torrent]

The weak die young

[quartz adder]

Also the grudgebook is surprisingly fun if you ignore the unfun ones

[tawny timber]

ok noob question

does dodging have a cooldown?

[hidden torrent]

I recently have a friend who enjoyed darktide pick up VT and he likes it more, I've been having a lot of fun leveling him up

I mean yeah

[quartz adder]

They sped up leveling

[tawny timber]

i feel rarted

[quartz adder]

Also the weekly CW are fun

[tawny timber]

but im just trying to learn dodging after playing for a long time and always being frustrated with it

[hidden torrent]

Yeah in 2 games he's level 11

[quartz adder]

Free unique skins too

15,000 exp for a single mission

[hidden torrent]

The pvp was surprisingly good

[tender pasture]

VT2 also splits stamina and dodge

[quartz adder]

Ehhh

[hidden torrent]

When they said they were gonna add pvp I expected alot worse

[quartz adder]

Im rank 53 or so (green rank)

[tender pasture]

plus you can block tank near infinitely with the right talents, and for a long ass time with just kit

[quartz adder]

Its fun if you have a team that knows how to play

Or both teams dont know how to play

[hidden torrent]

That's what I enjoy lmao

[tawny timber]

darktide does too tho

[hidden torrent]

It's very very fun to outplay someone who doesn't know what's happening

[quartz adder]

I like it when both sides know

[tender pasture]

stamina regen timer doesn't reset in VT2 when you dodge IIRC

[tawny timber]

oh ig so

[quartz adder]

My versus comp is Slayer Shade Bounty-Hunter and Foot-Knight/Mercenary

[tender pasture]

also it's just got funnier/more busted builds

[quartz adder]

Im the slayer

[hidden torrent]

I like guessing who wants to play kerillian when someone joins, then insta leaves (its everyone))

When she's not available

[quartz adder]

Everyone wants to play the dwarf

[tender pasture]

you dodge most of the toxicity in VT2 by maining Kerilian

[hidden torrent]

Dorf

[quartz adder]

To abuse ironbreaker and outcast engineer for the noobs

[tender pasture]

and the balance is split between dorf and salty

[quartz adder]

And ranger vet and slayer for the good gamers

BoP aimpunch cancel is nuts in versus

[tender pasture]

Zealot mains have no fucking chill and get super tilted

[hidden torrent]

Anyone who mains Kerillian has a 99% chance of being toxic, 100% if she's Hagrane

[quartz adder]

Its a feature but it should be nerfed

In versus

No reason to have perfect accuracy while being shot

[forest breach]

Footknight alpha class

[hidden torrent]

As a footknight main i agree

[quartz adder]

Merc is also good because of the revive shout

[tawny timber]

i mained huntsman

[forest breach]

https://tenor.com/view/bros-bro-high-five-dillon-duke-gif-12955092

[quartz adder]

Huntsman is good, just there are better snipers

Mainly RV and Shade

[hidden torrent]

Whenever footknight isn't open I just play WP

[quartz adder]

RV longer invis

And shade has better troll dps

[tawny timber]

huntsman can use bret longsword

that is why I played him

aragorn build

[quartz adder]

WP is good until your teammates suck

[forest breach]

Honestly i never play anything but fk

[quartz adder]

Then you wish you brought a gun

[hidden torrent]

Wp is based when your team sucks

[quartz adder]

(Talking about versus only)

[hidden torrent]

I just play whatever is fun and win

[forest breach]

Oohhh versis, sienna is funny

Just send a skeleton deathsquad after those pesky rats

[hidden torrent]

I just play Krueber for the sexual tension

[grand perch]

i play bardin for the same reason

[hidden torrent]

Based

[tender pasture]

miss halberd and billhook

bret ls too

[forest breach]

Polearm for vet when

[hidden torrent]

I miss mace and sword

[forest breach]

[hidden torrent]

We still need a hotshot for vet

Glugger would make more sense to have like a twin-linked autocannon, but still

[granite oxide]

anyone else who uses mods having trouble starting darktide?

[hidden torrent]

Numeric UI

Update it

[granite oxide]

no idea how. (i have brain of goldfish

[hidden torrent]

Go to website, download it, and drag unzipped file into mod folder and replace

Nexus mods

[granite oxide]

the launcher or all the mods

[hidden torrent]

What

[granite oxide]

nvm im stupid

[hidden torrent]

Wait, how do you not know how to download mods, if you had to in the first place to have them

[granite oxide]

i have mods

its worked before

even unpatched and patched againb

[hidden torrent]

That wasn't the question i asked

[granite oxide]

like i said brain of goldfish.

sorry

[hidden torrent]

Silly goober

[granite oxide]

although yes i know how to download mods.

mb didnt say that first

[hidden torrent]

You do that again

[granite oxide]

so everything?

[hidden torrent]

All the mods that need updated yes

[granite oxide]

thank you

[hidden torrent]

I love you

[granite oxide]

and thank you for being this patient

[granite oxide]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1186576856242212874/1288928236566478858/attachment.gif

[hidden torrent]

Patient? I asked 2 questions lmap

[granite oxide]

im big stupid

[hidden torrent]

Mf got social anxiety

[granite oxide]

ive made an actual icecream sandwic once

yes bread and icecream.

[hidden torrent]

Im not sure how to respond to thwt

[granite oxide]

ok i MIGHT have the touch of the tism.

[red laurel]

What blessings do you put on Assault Chainsword?

[hidden torrent]

Whatever you want

[granite oxide]

personaly the rev up is pretty good

[hidden torrent]

I will always answer with, do whatever seems fun, if you play well, it doesn't mattee

You can do good with anything

[granite oxide]

haha funny chainsword go brrrrrrrrrr

[hidden torrent]

I do wish vet got a new melee this patch, power axe or something

2 handed chain axe

[granite oxide]

i want sniper1

!!!!

although mods fix that.

[hidden torrent]

That's been in the files since alpha big man

[granite oxide]

THEN WHY ISNT REAL.

A

[hidden torrent]

So is a melta gun

[granite oxide]

THERES A MELTA GUN?

[hidden torrent]

Yeah

I actually saw it when playing in beta, when the servers glitched and you could see literally everything for a short time

Or rather, that Playtest in 2022? I believe?

[granite oxide]

lazy karkers I WANT MELTA GUN!!!!

[hidden torrent]

October 22nd iirc

[granite oxide]

also just a quick quick recap

all the mod need redownload

not the launcher

yes?

[hidden torrent]

Wdym by the launcher

[granite oxide]

i dont need to redownload it do i?

[hidden torrent]

How would you re-download the launcher

[granite oxide]

wdym you have to download that so that the mods work. right?

[hidden torrent]

Oh you mean the mod loader

[granite oxide]

yee.

[hidden torrent]

If it needs an update yes

[granite oxide]

ack

ill try the mods first then redownload the launcher.

glungus

[hidden torrent]

What now

[granite oxide]

the mods.

[hidden torrent]

Yeah true

[granite oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/scringlo-shock-horror-scared-cat-scared-gif-25664291

[tall torrent]

rashad is viable in havoc (and a strong choice)

we're so back

[granite oxide]

so 21st is back?

[tall torrent]

in havoc, yes

[granite oxide]

splendid

[frail skiff]

Do y'all think we will finally get a helgun?

[junior grail]

Imagine a slower recon without needing to reload(supply pack) with overheat mechanic

[earnest bone]

so the flak helmet guys are still 690 hp

[granite oxide]

want needler gun

[wicked epoch]

And with high damage and cleave mmmm

absolute bliss

[frail skiff]

So a bottomless mag MK XIV?

[tough tiger]

i just heard sefoni say sth about hearing xenos whispers, something about the sword and the cloak

what is this suppposed to be a reference to>

jeanstealers?

[frail skiff]

They're here to steal all our jeans

[quartz leaf]

What's best accatran and perks

Hh infernus 6c?

[soft river]

Anybody get that new Helbore skin? Wondering if it changes the ADS

[hidden torrent]

They've been referencing gene-stealers since the game has launched, don't get your hopes up

[austere mica]

I think they reference them like

Once

Maybe twice

[pseudo fiber]

It does

[soft river]

screen cap pls?

[tough tiger]

ok this is stupid

i sent out a party join request a while ago

then i made my own party and started a game

then midgame i get a notification saying that i was accepted into the previous party

i clicked too fast and hit accept so i got taken out of my own game

amazing

now i cant rejoin my last mission

[pseudo fiber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046912126746374274/1313555994088964116/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_Screenshot_2024.12.03_-_12.20.48.22.png?ex=67513899&is=674fe719&hm=f899df39f026993c957a66ed9543bccfc9bc113acbc6f944093272275701245b&

[soft river]

thank you!

[brazen steppe]

So uuuuh, which side of the skill tree is best tree for veteran

[pseudo fiber]

Middle

[quartz leaf]

?

[pseudo fiber]

Dum dum deathsplitter I think double check the guide in pins though

[quartz leaf]

Weapons aren't loading

[pseudo fiber]

That's annoying

[quartz leaf]

they loaded but theres no in depth like before rating their viabiity and strategy

[teal canyon]

Bottom

[balmy flume]

All 3 trees are good, just depends on how you like to play.

Left is pure pew pew.

Middle is buff+ flexibility style.

Right is stealth + maximum flexibility.

[grand perch]

garrus voice: left has reach, right has flexibility

[balmy flume]

Also the way the Vet tree is designed, you can mix and match a bit and still get good results

I went middle keystone, but with elements from both left and right.

[crisp oak]

Vets weird, he has some random talent nodes that are great

Left tree has the better aura (and by virtue of point efficiency better grenade), left tree has the infinite ammo perk on helbores, middle combat ability (shout) is really good (as is the aimhax extra damage one), keystones are fine and really most of the utility is in the talent nodes not the keystones

[rocky jacinth]

Vet really wants to just grab ammo aura + shout or exec then dump the rest of the points into the bottom of the tree since it's so thick with good nodes

Going on excursions up top tends to be very costly

[balmy flume]

So another dumb penance question.

For the penance for reaching Havoc 25

Does it mean I must reach my own Havoc rank 25

or does it apply so long as I completed a Havoc rank 25 anywhere?

[somber axle]

yeah but if you complete someone else's havoc 25 assignment at the end of the week it should bounce your rank to 25 if you haven't completed your own assignment up to it I thiiiink?

[balmy flume]

AH ok

[pseudo fiber]

That's right I believe

[somber axle]

I only vaguely remember the blog LOL

[balmy flume]

Right now my own is 16, but my highest is 19.

[somber axle]

but they did mention completing higher ranked assignments from another player will bump up the ranks of all those participating lower than that rank

[balmy flume]

awesome, thx

[pseudo fiber]

After a week

[balmy flume]

and I expect if it doesn't ping, I would probably just need to do a Havoc mission at worst.

[somber axle]

also I've left behind Focus Target/Redirect Fire on my Helbore forever

[balmy flume]

Which (to me at least) isn't that painful.

[somber axle]

this gun gets so fun with Marksman's Focus it's unreal

I've been running it a bunch on the new map in AuDamn HiShock and it deletes everything

[balmy flume]

I am guessing you turned your Helbore into an actual sniper rifle

with that combo

[somber axle]

yes but it's the fastest firing weakest charged shot variant and I put Weight of Fire on it so it fires as fast as a iLas

the only awkward bit is Helbore swap time

[balmy flume]

whistles
If I wasn't addicted to Tabletop Sergeant build right now I would try that.

[somber axle]

I ended up in a match with someone in the new Krieg set who was also using the Helbore and two Zealots

we just worked together to delete everything as it spawned so fast LOL

[balmy flume]

nice

I think the ony Havoc run I failed was someone else's rank 20.

Someone unfortunately disconnected, so we were only 2 Psykers and a Vet (myself)

...and it was Ventilation Purge with sniper gauntlet.

[somber axle]

rip

[balmy flume]

indeed, but we did make the best of it.

[somber axle]

don't they let you get 3 tries at the assignment before it fails?

[balmy flume]

Oh that's someone else's assignment, so I assume they would have another 2 gos left

but then I suggested we try the new mission at that point

and, weirdly enough, I have to say.

Somehow the spawn rates in the new mission feels a bit more unhinged than actual Havoc.

[somber axle]

I love the new mission but MAN they need to fix the final transition door

[balmy flume]

Maybe it's the modifiers.

[somber axle]

the cutscene that plays during that door doesn't stop combat

things keep spawning in and attacking you

my whole squad, sitting and staring into the room during the cutscene, has been popped by bursters twice LMFAO

cutscene ended and someone was under a dog

[balmy flume]

...somehow that didn't seem to be too big a problem for our group.

[somber axle]

it's hilarious

[balmy flume]

But that having been said, bugs aside

if Fat Shark wanted to sell the idea the Cultists wanted to stop us

[pseudo fiber]

Gotta hug the walls

[balmy flume]

the Spawn rates did that really fucking well

[pseudo fiber]

Oh the mission is really fun

[balmy flume]

Our group was at the cathedral gates and it was just an endless stream of specials

[pseudo fiber]

So is the banter

[balmy flume]

from both sides

[somber axle]

YEAH

I love how crazy it gets

[balmy flume]

on that note

did any of the old maps get a sneaky update?

In terms of map layout?

[somber axle]

no idea

I haven't seen the old maps since every quickplay I've done is the new map

[balmy flume]

ah all good, the new map craze is to be expected

[pseudo fiber]

Don't think so

[balmy flume]

Although re: the new map

The only slightly out of place thing

Is the part where the Cultist Leader rants on about sending forth the Cult Champion to stop us…

…and it’s a Plague Ogryn 🤣

[somber axle]

LMFAO yeah

even funnier if you run into bosses before that segment too

after one of the drop downs we ran into both a Chaos Spawn and a Plogryn

[balmy flume]

Havoc mode also has so many boss spawns

A captain and a Spawn at the same time lol

…come to think of it, I wonder if Havoc mode means it is worth stacking those ability recharge time bonuses on my curious again

Given the lower thresholds of health and toughness to begin with anyways.

[crisp oak]

Heyo do this make sense for knife vet?

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9da4e325-0bdd-4986-a8ec-258501559619

No idea what gun to actually run with it and if fully loaded is needed or not

[grand perch]

overall decent but i have some thoughts

serrated blade is a very taxing dip in this talent tree. either go with krak or smoke grenades to save some points or take mercy killer off the knife and replace it with precognition or flesh tearer

if you plan on sticking to frags, get back in the fight is nearly worthless imo, despite not sounding bad. recommend you go for catch a breath instead

not sure if the vigilant autogun will perform well. it lacks bring it down notably, but itll probably not be too bad. outclassed in this setup by revolver or similar unfortunately

[crisp oak]

Yeah wasnt sure ifbthis or revolver was better

Was also considering bolt pistol

[grand perch]

if you can save a point somewhere, agile engagement is basically a must pick

[crisp oak]

Id love to go for kraks

[grand perch]

curios have stamina regen which doesnt do much for vet and is usually outclassed by sprint eff

[crisp oak]

Bet

Wait kraks saves no points

[grand perch]

i meant krak > close and kill

[crisp oak]

Ah yeah

cant give up on survivalist because it helps out the team

[grand perch]

its an awkward pick point wise

[crisp oak]

Yeah sadly

Might drop the melee portion of weapon specialist for it

[grand perch]

finally one motion > out for blood is fine, but the value of confirmed kill is usually much higher and routes you through an additional stamina node with knife definitely appreciates

id say try out for blood but consider switching that up

[crimson pebble]

infiltrates rlly strong if played right give it a try over voc

[crisp oak]

Yeah been using it

[crisp oak]

This for a minute, been nice

Probably less good with the revolver though

What about dropping fully loaded for agile engagement?

[crimson pebble]

my favorite build for vet

[regal smelt]

that 5% movement speed node makes a huge difference if you're actually going for it

[crisp oak]

Tbf I could run keystoneless and become speed

[regal smelt]

probably not a necessary stat if you're running knife

[regal smelt]

warthunder build warthunder build

[crimson pebble]

could opt for smokes if you want a point somewhere i only ever use the kraks for bulwarks anyway

[grand perch]

could do, headhunter autogun isnt too ammo starved

[crisp oak]

Tbh left the gun in as a placeholder

Ive basically only used the hlbore and bolter

So completely open to using revolver, any of the autoguns, shotguns, or whatever

[runic axle]

The mind goblins won't let me rest. Should I just be happy with what I have or gamble several hundreds of thousands of gold to get a perfect/near perfect charge rate / resistance roll?

[crimson pebble]

use double barrel always prepared now

[grand perch]

however youd lose superiority complex too, probably wouldnt want that

[crimson pebble]

peak

[regal smelt]

agile engagement aint that bad either even if you are fully relying on dueling sword for damage over your ranged, just sucks to drop a crit blessing if you're going down the melee talents in the bottem right

[crisp oak]

My struggle is wanting the team support of survivalist shout, but also wanting the melee stuff further down

[crimson pebble]

its a sink or swim world sometimes

[regal smelt]

dont dump ammo, dump charge rate over thermal resistance. shouldnt take no more than 300k dockets, the 2 million docket roll for plasma is 68/69 thermal resistance for exactly 8 shots and 71/72 charge rate

[crisp oak]

Tbh Im only going down weapon specialist for trench fighter

Maybe better to go for keystoneless

[runic axle]

Why don't you go Corruption resistance or sprint efficacy instead of the combat ability regen?

[crisp oak]

Had it o in case I had to drop the recharge on special kill

Could drop it for sprint efficiency

[red laurel]

I will never get why Fatshark made two staves have the same name and same model too. Anyways, which is which?

[regal smelt]

combat regen is really good especially paired with vet recharge, 15% corruption resistance will resist the same amount of damage that a 5% hp perk will give, which means you should probably always take hp over corruption resist and hp as a curio perk is really bad compared to toughness

taking just 1 sprint efficiency makes your sprint way longer though

[crisp oak]

Also does agile engagement really help me if Im using an autogun over like a bolt pistol/revolver

[regal smelt]

If you're swapping to melee to go faster then yeah. If you're being followed and have to constantly dodge just to move somewhere instead of standing and fighting it helps a ton

uncanny alone still lets it delete anything you need

[runic axle]

IMO WS should use hard hitting small mag weapons, so you're putting yourself into an uncomfortable spot by using the autogun.

[crisp oak]

So basically swap to like bolt pistol/revolver

[runic axle]

Double barrel, revolver, bolter pistol.

[regal smelt]

depends on if you want to abuse the 1 crit a ranged ws proc gives or only want it for the melee speed

[runic axle]

I'd also probably ditch the WS upgrades, aside from always prepared and get confirmed kill.

[red laurel]

To my Horror a Poxhound was just 100% silent

[crisp oak]

Thought on your toes was a good way to do toughness regen

[regal smelt]

an auto gun at the very least has crit chains instead of only 1 crit bullet, but yeah autogun doesnt really benefit from weapon specialist and you are only buffing your melee at that point

[runic axle]

For some reason they seem to behave like a heat seeking missile mid-jump for me this week, so I'm blasting them as soon as I hear one

[crisp oak]

Aight bet

Never used ws/built for it before so have no idea how it works

I can easily swap out the confirmed kill/one motion

[regal smelt]

it gives you a ton of crit chance per stack ranged, but that stack will only proc 1 crit

[runic axle]

You have a 10 second buff upon weapon switching and it also has a 3 second cooldown, so you can't exactly kill - swap - kill - swap for quick regen. IMO Confirmed kill is better for the sustain while you go melee, it also has a decent perk before it to give more toughness damage resistance.

[grand perch]

i believe the burst will fire faster too, or the delay between bursts will be faster with WS

[runic axle]

And that's why revolver fucks with these builds. Crit stat + Blessing.

[grand perch]

since it gives fire rate buff as well

[crisp oak]

Yup, Ill probably run bolt pistol because its cool but will try to work it out

[regal smelt]

yeah the attack speed is nice for burst weapons or the charge speed on plasma but barely noticable anywhere else

[crisp oak]

Run something like this

Could drop the swap speed depending on how fast the pullouts are and add in fully loaded

Or the toughness damage/nade regen node

then Ill have 3 seperate vet builds to have some build diversity

[sleek garden]

New map has shooters and gunners as far as the eye can see

[crisp oak]

Fun

now this looks lile a job for the hellbore

[grand perch]

you want iron will for the 1 point you spent on one motion though

[crisp oak]

Yeah had a feeling

Was gonna be that, the nade regen node next to it, or more boolets

[grand perch]

its just so busted, iron will always wins out

[crisp oak]

Yeah

[wintry wren]

And bosses can't forget that.

Well monstrosities

[sleek garden]

It does have at least one guaranteed

[runic axle]

You could try ditching survivalist if you're going for bolter/revolver to save yourself a point to invest into iron will or out for blood.

[crisp oak]

Can't do, too many gungryns need the extra boolets I bring

Might set one up like you say for the rare occasion there is a second vet in the lobby

[somber adder]

Trying to produce enough bullets for gunluggers is a futile venture

If they have bullets they shoot and so they will never have enough

[crisp oak]

Fine, I help the rumblabois keep rumbling as long as they crack a specialist in the head

And when rock mutie, get ullet back

[wooden oar]

What's the best melee weapon now a days for veteran? (Returning player)

And is the heavy laspistol good?

[wraith spire]

the combat knife can do anything but cure carpal tunnel, and the heavy laspistol is reliable to have on non-horde situations

but truth be told the best melee weapon is the helbore lasgun

it's got a gun as secondary action somewhere

you never run out of ammo because you don't fire it

[tame lodge]

Mk2

[pseudo fiber]

It's okay

[hasty grove]

Thoughts on the bolter?

Personally, me like big gun

[wraith spire]

big gun fun time

[fading meadow]

Hi guys, did you recommend Recon Lasgun + Power Sword for a veteran ?

[wraith spire]

can't go wrong with those

[hasty grove]

Me when I magdump into a horde and my entire screen is covered in spattering blood and gore

[wraith spire]

veteran neuron activation!!

[hasty grove]

I’ve also started using the plasma gun w my Kasrkin loadout

Any tips?

I kinda suck with it ngl

[wraith spire]

suck harder until you suck no more

[hasty grove]

Very helpful advice tyty

Smh

[tough tiger]

Plasma gun tips? Just dont use it too much or else it becomes a crutch for you

Save it for hordes or crushers

[covert folio]

point and click

only use uncharged shots, charged is not worth using in like 99% of situations

[stoic thorn]

I love making jokes that the stims are just fent

[wraith spire]

wdym jokes

[stoic thorn]

That one part from the new mission looks like Walter Whites underground lab

[hasty grove]

I guess I’ve been using it wrong than?

I’ve been using it for special enemies

And just melee’ing everything else

[stoic thorn]

I use Exe Stance for plasma

[tough tiger]

U can use it for specials but the slow draw speed makes it a bit risky

U need sth that can deal with specials fast

[wraith spire]

barbaric weapon

[severe finch]

wow

[wraith spire]

no finesse whatsoever

[severe finch]

just wow

[slow spade]

just ask them to wait for you

ez

[severe finch]

so quick question as i have never done em before

how big of a leep is damnation to auric missions

[slow spade]

can you do High Intensity Damn>

[severe finch]

aint tried one but i did manage a maelstrom damntion with only 2 deaths haha

its those dang ragers getting the drop on me

[slow spade]

oh then you're fine

Maelstrom damn is harder than auric

for context, Maelstrom is Auric + additional modifiers

[severe finch]

okay well thats a welcome thought be worried about not being ready to jump in and didnt want to drag a team down

and i want to practice auric a bit before i get into trying to unlock havoc mode

[slow spade]

jump into the hardest gamemode possible to prepare for the easier ones UwU

[severe finch]

yep

to be fair i have been putting auric off for to long

i got like 400 hours and been playing on and off since xbox release

never beat an auric yet

[slow spade]

Auric is harder to solo clutch so prepare to get let down by shit teammates

[queen fox]

Scandar mk3 psword? I thought it was munitorum mk3

[slow spade]

name change update affected Pswords

[severe finch]

lol thats my biggest weakness on vet haah

might have to start a build on my zeal or psyker

[slow spade]

just play Vet and queue for Hunting Grounds with VoC

basically a free win

[severe finch]

you got a build to share mines kinda just cobbled together so id love to compare notes on what others run

and what guns you recomend

[slow spade]

here's a build with absolutely no clue what you're using

it'll work with almost any weapon combo except for like bolter/helbore maybe

[severe finch]

normally running a CIAG

thats why im open to weapon recommendations

[slow spade]

Recon, Vraks mk5, Bolter, Plasma, and Revolver are the best imo

[severe finch]

which recon

[slow spade]

you're in luck, the build I posted is so generically good, it'll work with CIAG

[severe finch]

got a decent one with infernus and dum dum on it

[slow spade]

I like to use Recon XII (the fast firing one)

personally I use DumDUm + Headhunter but Havoc might want Infernus...

"-50% ranged damage taken"

such is life

[severe finch]

lol my old build (before the old recon nerf) was all about burning down ranged enemy groups and mobs

[slow spade]

oof

[severe finch]

we had a hammer zeal for big guys

[slow spade]

it works :p

[severe finch]

so you think i should roll infernus off for head hunter ?

[slow spade]

Infernus works better in Havoc due to the higher time to kill

[severe finch]

okay

[slow spade]

in normal missions, yes due to the fast time to kill

but in Havoc, Infernus has its value

[severe finch]

well havoc is the end goal

you got a build for recon or just the one posted above

[slow spade]

indeed, but you can always just change out

[severe finch]

and last question what melee weapon

im still stuck in ye olde power sword meta

[slow spade]

oh you're using psword

that helps a lot

[severe finch]

yeah good old power cycler

[slow spade]

you can try this

I also like this to better duel shooters

no Survivalist because you should be fine by just ammo boxes alone

though I use Headhunter so Shock Trooper procs more often comared to Infernus

[hasty grove]

Anyone else like to write lore for their Reject or am I just rlly cringe?

[slow spade]

its only cringe if its bad

otherwise its good

[grand perch]

https://tenor.com/view/cringe-gif-21870809

(do whatever you like)

[severe finch]

part of a krieg tithe that got decimated and cycled into the inqustion after facing the forces of chaos

[slow spade]

I stole a butter cookie and now I've been conscripted into the Inquisition

[hasty grove]

My Veteran is supposed to be a Kasrkin who was imprisoned for insubordination against a Space Marine lieutenant

[severe finch]

last queastion just to make sure what should i have on my curios

its time i finally started min maxxing

[pseudo fiber]

Not cringe at all
Check out #darktide-fan-art it's full of people's own rejects

[hasty grove]

Idk if having a Kasrkin reject is outta place but idc cus they’re my fav units in 40k lol

[slow spade]

here's what MY curios are, I use pushes and block attacks on my psword so I need a lot of stam

Gunner resist is because Havoc memes

the 5% toughness is basically a free slot

[severe finch]

okay well im mostly in the right direction

[slow spade]

the Vet guide creator suggests having 200 hp and a -20% sniper damage curio for safety

so that's also a good build idea

[hasty grove]

Why specifically sniper damage resist?

[vague pier]

hello got a question

[severe finch]

i almost never get hit by snipers as long as i hear them

[grand perch]

sprint and stam regeneration both is a bit odd since stam regen is of little value on vet. id replace at least 1 with sniper resist

[severe finch]

so i "might" not need that

[versed osprey]

If you are here I hope you read this: You got your ass carried the whole game you should'nt be playing havoc 17 with 2 bounds you dont listen to queues and you are an arrogant prick. Get good and stop wasting everyone's time. Racist asshole

[slow spade]

with 200 hp and 20% sniper damage resist, you can survive 1 more poxburster and 2 more sniper rounds

[hasty grove]

I see the dot and just dodge outta the way before returning fire

I’ve never had an issue with snipers

[slow spade]

weapon specific build

[severe finch]

what would you recomend then im open to ideas

[slow spade]

I use push and block attacks a lot

so I need the stam to keep up with my playstyle

[hasty grove]

Same

[slow spade]

it never hurts to keep in mind another option

[hasty grove]

I do alotz o’ stabbin’

[vague pier]

for curios im doing havoc 22 am i best of changing stam reg to damage reduction

[severe finch]

as i said i "might" not need it

ill still look at it though

[slow spade]

Auric Sniper Vent purg UwU

[slow spade]

fuck the -50% ranged damage modifier that shit is annoying

[severe finch]

mag dump in the general direction till you hit em haha

[grand perch]

as mentioned above, getting 200 health at least plus 1 sniper resist is a good idea

[slow spade]

indeed :p

[vague pier]

yeah that whyim thinking of chaning stam to damage red

[slow spade]

at the very least, all that stam lets you close in for melee faster :p

[hasty grove]

I’m not able to even have 3 curios yet but I have all mine focused on toughness and stamina regen

I’ll take a SS of them when I can

[vague pier]

im more towards shooting anyway

[slow spade]

ah then yeah damage resist time

[grand perch]

fair. i suppose i do undervalue stam regen a bit

[slow spade]

I like to swap between melee and ranged

[balmy flume]

Well managed to indirectly jump up to 21 through matchmakings.
Let’s see if I can reach 25 within this week for next week’s refresh.
(So I can get those sick pants)
(And no I am not try hard enough to gun for the full 40 lol. Would rather just farm for the black Mobian drip)

[slow spade]

a block attack headshot with Psword can 1-hit kill ragers so you know I'm spamming that shit

[severe finch]

just to check whats the best 2nd blessing (obviously keeping power cycler) on a power sword and which mark is better overall yall think

[slow spade]

Mk6 is strictly better and get Brutal Momentum

[dense light]

Did .exe stance get nerfed?

[severe finch]

did it? i didnt notice if it did

[slow spade]

no it got significantly buffed recently

[dense light]

Oh, neat.

[slow spade]

the only time it got nerfed was Patch 13 over a year ago

[slow spade]

you can swap weapons without losing Exec stance now

[dense light]

Probably the 18th time I’m having to respec my guys. im tired boss

[supple stag]

Switching to melee doesn't end your exe stance + the node that refreshed stance is part of base kit now

[low oar]

Switching to your melee is always faster than reloading

[severe finch]

@slow spade thanks a ton by the way

trying to get atleast one "meta" class together for each character so i have em if i get stuck

[slow spade]

a lot of potential synergy as the +25% ranged damage affects nades

so you can squeeze a bit more from your nades

[slow spade]

np comrade

[low oar]

Doing havoc is just slightly an issue for me since I've been focused on doing my masteries first for all my weapons

[slow spade]

to be frank, Rashad Combat Axe + Revolver + Weapon Specialist is better than what I posted

but what I posted will do well

[severe finch]

you mind posting that as well then

im down to try mutiple setups to find a "groove" i like

[slow spade]

here's what I use on mine

I only shoot my gun to get melee stacks and dome something my melee can't safely reach

otherwise pure "whack"

[severe finch]

yeah lot like how i play my zeal

[slow spade]

though you should be right at home :p

[severe finch]

whats the rolls and marks on the weapons?

[slow spade]

I wish I could get Out For Blood instead of confirmed kill

[slow spade]

here's what I use

[severe finch]

thanks

[hasty grove]

Fellow Veterans

Was this as impressive as it felt?

Or nah?

[severe finch]

damn nice shot

[grand perch]

controller aim? then yeah

[versed osprey]

the havoc experience

bunch of cowards

[hasty grove]

Yeah, PS5

[slow spade]

yeah good hit just keep in mind never used Charged plasma shots

[versed osprey]

so many unexperienced players joining hard havoc matches dying and leaving on the first 10 minutes

[slow spade]

(I know you didn't but better to know now)

[slow spade]

too used to being able to alt+f4 out of things

now we have to suffer for their mistakes :p

[hasty grove]

I usually don’t, but since it was such a long shot focusing the reticle rlly helped

[slow spade]

ah ok

[hasty grove]

Thats the only yse I can tell charging the gun has tbh

Slightly more accuracy

[thorn lark]

Yeah. I am so glad they gatekeeped havoc.

Oh wait.

[crisp oak]

Never understoodbleaving when dying

[severe finch]

and this right here is exactly what im trying ot avoid haha

[hasty grove]

Chances of Veteran ever getting a jump pack?

Ik its outlandish but lemmie cope

[crisp oak]

Almost 0

[versed osprey]

its frustrating

[hasty grove]

It’d really bring my Kasrkin build together

[severe finch]

im atleast experienced enough to say i can typically hold my own

but i want to have a build put together before i go in

[crisp oak]

Same

[severe finch]

now its back to the plasteel mines

[idle swallow]

I pretty much have to do generalist vet with shout cuz I know my pub teammates are just gonna crumple in 2 seconds during any actual fight

fun times in havoc

[wooden oar]

Are these still the go to perks/blessings for revolver? Returning player.

[severe finch]

looks exactly like what i was just told to use a few minutes ago

from sheodoq

[low oar]

Yeah pretty much
I personally use crucian a lot on builds that swap a lot since surgical is slow

[severe finch]

well not exactly but pretty close

[halcyon elk]

Is cowboy revolver viable on endgame content?

[severe finch]

anythings viable if you stubborn enough haha

[low oar]

Everything is viable

[versed osprey]

to be fair anything is viable

[grand perch]

(except at high havoc)

[severe finch]

lol

[wooden oar]

What's a vet build for really high havoc runs?

And weapon choice

[versed osprey]

havoc just came out so we dont know

but anything that worked for auric maelstorm will probably work

[slow spade]

really good boss killer, just don't try to killsnipers with it :p

[versed osprey]

plus chaos resistance on curios

[wooden oar]

Also I don't know if I should stick to powersword. Are other options more viable now?

[versed osprey]

cuz all the new mods

[grand perch]

yeah no consensus, but path projected the mk VII lasgun to be really good, due to favorable BPs and availability of Ghost

plus psword

[slow spade]

one of the conditions gives enemies -50% ranged damage taken so learn how to close in and melee :p

[halcyon elk]

Try and stop me from dumping my mag at a far away sniper and hoping it hit

[slow spade]

I'm taking the ammo if I see you then :p

[severe finch]

throw the gun at them youd have better odds

[halcyon elk]

I throw it after I run out the magazine, then magically make a new one with a full mag. (Hope someone gets the reference)

[severe finch]

lol

[halcyon elk]

They call me the gunslinger not for my ability to shoot but because I have a infinite amount of guns I throw

[severe finch]

lol thats me but with my CIAG

[tall torrent]

[hasty grove]

OMG LITERALLY MEEEE

[cyan verge]

not true

bring shredder autopistol into my game and I votekick

[hasty grove]

Nerd

[slow spade]

shredder pistol is THAT bad

[cyan verge]

it's baaaaad

[slow spade]

you're genuinely better off not shooting and just meleeing

[cyan verge]

I saw a zealot the other day with like, I dunno, I guess relic blade, but he had the bad combat shotgun and was using like four shells to kill one dog and I was like man... I really wish I had someone that isn't this guy in my auric damnation right now

[wooden oar]

Which version of the powersword is the best

[slow spade]

mk6

[cyan verge]

the mk III is good too but yeah the mk VI best

the other day I was using one of the chainaxe marks and was like wtf this is junk but then I swapped to the other one and it had noticeably better performance in every way so the power sword isn't that situation at least

[slow spade]

mk6 is strictly better

but the mk3 is still good

[cyan verge]

yeah

[slow spade]

literally the only advantage mk3 has is its Heavy are all horizontal swings

[thorn lark]

What's the old name of the VII?

[grand perch]

Ia

[fading meadow]

Hi guys, can I sacrifice Profane Weapons? I have some of them that are trash. What should I do with them?

[tall torrent]

Either sell
Or spend plasteel to consecrate them to green rarity
And then u can sacrifice them to their respective weapon families

[sleek garden]

The shotgun power against dogs is unfairly bad

seriously it's a shotgun and the spread covers the entire dog

You should vaporize it

[balmy flume]

Havoc 21+ is…that is where things are truly starting to get unhinged, I feel, lol

Just tried a PUG 24.
Wiped twice despite no bad play

[sleek garden]

It's cool to shoot a rager in the chest and send him flying

[balmy flume]

It’s like AI actively hates you at that point

[sleek garden]

Feels so deserved

[fading meadow]

Thanks for the answer and sorry for bother you .
I am still new so I can't find the way where I can sell weapons Profane the Grey ones.

[sleek garden]

Go to your inventory, if you are on PC you select the weapon and hold x to sell

Not sure what the buttons would be on consoles

You cannot do it via hadron, you must go to your inventory and select the weapon to sell

What he said is technically the better option but not worth doing if you have just started

[fading meadow]

Okay I will.check that. I am in PS5 .
One more question, should I always wait to get a weapon with only 80% if everything to know that is good ?

[cyan verge]

KEEP IN MIND btw

that he's saying 'Sell' but he means, 'Discard'

because for some reason, 'Discarding' your weapons, gives you resources back

[fading meadow]

Ohh ok

[cyan verge]

so yeah you open the inventory, press X or whatever the button is to Discard, select your junk weapons, gg

[fading meadow]

Wow I didn't know that. Thanks!!

[cyan verge]

yeah, most just give money but I think they can give plasteel/diamantine based on... power? or rarity? or both? really not sure

[sleek garden]

Erm it's called bartering

[fading meadow]

Okay and what is the best advice to upgrade a weapon. I mean, I can see all of them have random numbers like for ex: Mobility 6/60% or Damage 45/80% .
How can I know what is the best choice?
That is my last question thanks guys

[cyan verge]

the first number is the current value (i.e. it has, 45% damage) and the second number is the maximum if fully upgraded

[heavy rover]

in terms of determining if it's worth discarding or not, consider what will be the dump stat of the weapon (the stat that's okay to keep low so the rest of the stats can be maxxed out)

[tall torrent]

This depends on the specific weapon but almost all weapons (except veteran’s plasma gun) wants a 4x80+60 spread, it just depends on which stat you want the 60 to go to

[fading meadow]

Got it. Thanks tho

[cyan verge]

if you have a duelling sword,

• damage is important, cannot be dump
• same with finesse, penetration, cleave damage (debatably)
• so you probably want, 60% mobility so everything else can be eventually upgraded to its maximum value

this is a fully upgraded weapon

[fading meadow]

Okay that looks a perfect Sword 😂👍

I am trying to understand the game so I will check that for sure

[cyan verge]

so if you have some junk like this you can eventually upgrade it so it has perfect stats like the above basically. which means whichever weapon you invest in, should have the right maximum values. this combat knife has 60% penetration just because I want to go fast

but you could also take one with 60% mobility and upgrade that and it'd be, perfect

[heavy rover]

be sure to take your time learning the game, don't be afraid to experiment

[cyan verge]

yeah

once you reach level 30 it'll probably start to make more sense

[fading meadow]

Ok, So for now I like Power Swords and I am trying to get a nice one.

[cyan verge]

and to add, this means you can freely adjust:

• rarity (profane > transcendent)
• power rating (top right number, 320 here, can go to 500 max)
• perks (added as you gain rarity)
• blessings (added as you gain rarity)
  and you cannot adjust:
• maximum stats

ah

so for power sword the dump stat is... cleave targets I believe

[fading meadow]

I don't want to lose my money after playing for hours or days h😂. I prefer ask before spend

[cyan verge]

so you want something like this

[fading meadow]

Great 👍

[fiery raft]

just how good is this build?

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d3b0c35-0cbc-4116-a09e-d8ac97e53286/vet-sword-boltgun

[cyan verge]

gameslantern builds are bad so this is probably bad

[fiery raft]

you think?

[tall torrent]

Not very good

[cyan verge]

by the way since you can upgrade any weapon from grey up to max, this means you can roll grey items at the shop, this is pretty costly so don't worry too much about doing this until you have a lot of money to waste

[grand perch]

oh gawd

[cyan verge]

oh lol

[low oar]

Dump stat is mobility like all other weapons

[cyan verge]

yeah that's bad

[tall torrent]

Nah, cleave target

It doesn’t meaningfully make you cleave more things

[cyan verge]

lol, yeah that makes sense

actually let me post that one

[fiery raft]

anybody got any good bolter-centralized build ideas?

[tall torrent]

This is not what matters

[fiery raft]

would like to use bolter more

[tall torrent]

Heavy sword IX
Flak + maniac
Deathblow
Headtaker

Boltgun
Flak + maniac
Pinning fire
Puncture

[fiery raft]

oh, thank you

i appreciate it

i wanna ask, is demo team really that good?

[cyan verge]

demo team?

[fiery raft]

demolition team

[heavy rover]

if you can get demo team, it'd be a good call. on higher difficulties there are so many elites and specialists that you and your team fight through you'll get a lot of opportunities to get grenades restocked

[fiery raft]

the 5% one

oh yeah, good point

[cyan verge]

ohhhh that one

demo team basically never fires for me because my luck is bad

[tall torrent]

It’s very strong in higher difficulties

If game spawns 600 specialists & elites it’s basically 30 extra grenades for you

I think it’s a very high value pick if you’re going frags, and a generally good pick for krak

For smoke it’s a tossup

[grand perch]

for smoke i mainly take it when i dont wanna spend 2 points on grenade regen

[vital wren]

What's the best way to do the smoke penance without being a nuisance to others?

[fiery raft]

i do like to go frags

[grand perch]

stop caring just do it. the smoke goes onto your enemies and then you rush into it

[cyan verge]

yeah just do it

everyone will understand

they had to do it too

[vital wren]

Haha perf, fair enough

That was the plan, just wanted to be sure I'm not missing something.

[grand perch]

people just fail to understand what you provide with smokes

[tall torrent]

Throw it at where you want to be and rush into melee

[vital wren]

Esp with the boosted gunners/reapers no doubt

[stuck gorge]

I fail to be able to see anything with smoke users

[grand perch]

then maybe you should follow into it and start whacking

[stuck gorge]

No when I’m in the smoke

[grand perch]

or take the breather and reposition

[cyan verge]

idk having seen people murdered because they couldn't see a crusher or a mauler approaching, uh, yeah

[heavy rover]

no need to worry about seeing through the smoke when you can just shoot it full of lasbolts

[cyan verge]

there are occasions where I think gee wouldn't a smoke be handy here

[hollow ibex]

players: smoke could use some buffs
fatshart: i got you fam

[stuck gorge]

Alright sah, removing that direction sah.

[cyan verge]

but there are many many many other occasions where I am like, why would you put a smoke here dude

[grand perch]

some funny builds integrate exec stance with enhanced target priority outlines

so everyone can see those specials

[gentle maple]

Anyone know what it means when the group title in havoc is only like: Havoc (+2)? What does the +2 mean?

[sleek garden]

Smoke is unironically pretty good against heavy shooter presence and objectives

[heavy rover]

i mean with how much gunners and ranged enemies hurt now, smoke might be more viable to help with surviability

[cyan verge]

most valid combo with smokes imo, yeah, smoke, executioner, kill everything

[sleek garden]

force enemies to get closer into melee range

Or yeah exy stance through smoke

Which I do

on one build

[stuck gorge]

Smoke should have a slight dmg effect on enemies fr fr

[cyan verge]

I remember reading somewhere it said like this is a bad talent but let me tell you I like it a lot when other vets have this cuz it makes my plasma gun tingle

[fiery raft]

what's plasma gun stat spread?

[tall torrent]

That’s only for havoc tbh
And maybe Gloriana first event

[grand perch]

dont forget rolling steel

[sleek garden]

it is great for everyone else but it's basically a take one for the team point

[stuck gorge]

I use it when I’m using exe stance on lights out

[sleek garden]

Nobody wants to spend a point on it

[cyan verge]

not a bad idea...

[stuck gorge]

It’s so nice to just give wall hacks to my blind teammates

[sleek garden]

Have you played the new map

[stuck gorge]

Especially the ogryn with only one flashlight weapon

[tall torrent]

yea

[tall torrent]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046912126746374274/1312883349060321310/Desktop_2024.11.30_-_18.56.52.31.mp4?ex=67516926&is=675017a6&hm=9449f0c16ee317f8cd1954eb98ac5e59dd093a6c180466ceb041be763678af23&

[sleek garden]

I keep playing it and there's so many pro shootas

[stuck gorge]

I watched my teammate get trapped in a airlock til he died lmao, it closed him in while we all went into the ambush room

[sleek garden]

I didn't know that could happen

[stuck gorge]

Yea if you get downed in the airlock it closes the door

[cyan verge]

oh I actually saw someone get downed by a rager DURING a cutscene at the end of the map

we just exited the cutscene with a rager in the airlock with us beating on someone

like lol okay good

[stuck gorge]

I was lucky that none were agro’d on our cutscene

The ritual kinda goofy ngl

[grand perch]

@tired egret

[cyan verge]

it's not the worst but it's a little annoying, also it can be cheesed kinda if you have a psyker with vent

vent goes through the shields so you can aggro like every enemy inside all at once

[stuck gorge]

So that’s how the one crusher just walked through the ritual walls

[cyan verge]

yeah

they can apparently just walk through it

[stuck gorge]

I got spooked when I turned around into the corner and a crusher was just there outta nowhere

[orchid hemlock]

Morning everyone

[sleek garden]

Someone said a poxburster killed them mid cutscene lol

[cyan verge]

I believe it

[sleek garden]

Imagine the Karnak twin arena cutscene with a burster at the door

[cyan verge]

if everyone is low hp enough, I wonder if it's possible to game over in the cutscene

if a poxburster is just there

and blows up the party

[sleek garden]

There's no flava (toktokbibibbii boom) without sport!!

[cyan verge]

oof

I still have not done hard mode yet

I have a damnation clear

[sleek garden]

I did

Was pretty tough

Forgot if I was psyker or vet

had two ogryn teammates pulling as much aggro as they could

You have to be able to deal with maulers and crushers and bulwarks and trappers and Rinda all whaling on you at once

[vital wren]

Yeah it looks like absolute mayhem as a newer player. 🙂

[sleek garden]

Rinda is fun to fight with a devil's claw sword

[cyan verge]

I can just stab all of those with my duelling sword and they die so nbd

[sleek garden]

Dodge Dodge parry block swing

[cyan verge]

when I did it I was like thunder hammer zealot with bolt pistol, which, was okay

[sleek garden]

I don't think I did it when the bolt pistol was out

[cyan verge]

wow

I only started playing like 2 weeks ago so idk anything about htat

[tall torrent]

I might be cooking smth extremely funny

Relic blade overload
Boltpistol lethal prox

[plush kernel]

oh

overload

[tall torrent]

Overload sends an explosion (mainly stagger) when u overheat

Which is buffed by lethal prox

This stagger is actually powerful enough to break rager combo

[fiery raft]

one of my newer friends wants to use autoguns, any recommendations?

[tall torrent]

Vraks Mk V infantry autogun

High recoil + high dps

[fiery raft]

does that gun need like

a build around it?

[tall torrent]

Could

Good out of the box tho

[fiery raft]

okay

for personal use, you recommend building around it?

i would like to try out that gun

[tall torrent]

5% crit chance + flak
Dum dum
Deathspitter

[cyan verge]

crying

[fiery raft]

alrighty, ty

[stuck gorge]

Hand over the diamantine and I’ll give you my 6k plasteel

[graceful marten]

Man I'm hoping the relic blade's heat system is put on a new sword

[cyan verge]

sent

[stuck gorge]

It appears the diamantine was “lost in transit” and I will not be giving plasteel

[cyan verge]

[crude wind]

you guys looking forward to Smoke Grenades becoming meta?

[cyan verge]

no

[stuck gorge]

In other words, and you looking forward to not being able to see past 2 inches

[cyan verge]

no

[crude wind]

the nice thing is that the Havoc gunners can't see you either

[graceful marten]

I don't care if it becomes meta I will throw twinned blast krak grenades at them

[crude wind]

i look forward to the results of that!

[olive cosmos]

I was using smoke grenades anyways

Theyre pretty op

[queen fox]

i had 15k plasteel and 10k diamantine yesterday but i powerleveled the relic blade

[trim breach]

got these two in a row in a single try

[regal vector]

the outline is bareley noticable to me i thought it wouldve outlined them as if they were tagged. Also probably a dumb question but does killing an enemy while they are outlined count as killing a tagged enemy for the focus target modifiers?

[tall torrent]

It only lasts 5s and cannot be extended by having exe stance duration refreshed

If exe stance refresh worked like “any enemy highlighted dying refreshes” instead of “you killing the highlighted enemy refreshes” then it could be a good pick

[regal vector]

thx i was wondering that too. wouldve made sense to just make them work in synergy

[rustic kite]

Is the unseen predator penance just activating the ability near enemies

[inland orchid]

shoot around enemies

it wont break your stealth

[hasty grove]

Plays with randoms once

THE ZEALOT hogs ammo from me, the team’s only veteran

Talks shit about me not doing my job despite me not having ammo the entire match

[hollow ibex]

I could've sworn it gets extended. Saw a dude running it and the highlights were up for a while 🤔

[regal vector]

was he at least dropping heretics with that hogged ammo? still a dick or noob move but just wondering

[hasty grove]

Lol not at all

[rustic kite]

Sorry if this comes off rude im bad at wording but thats not what I asked ToT. Just wanted to know if activating it near enemies will build progress

[regal vector]

thats crazy since update ive barely used ranged weapon due to new sword

[inland orchid]

popping shroudfield only stealths you so no

you gotta do an extra action if u wanna prog

[cyan verge]

yeah of course, it's just it's nice to get that information like 'this is what's up ahead' sometimes on some maps like chasm logistratum

[gilded wraith]

Have a mk7 lasgun build for havoc floating around @tall torrent

Okay, that needed a question mark

[tall torrent]

Talent? Or

[gilded wraith]

Talents, I think I'm good on the weapon itself unless havoc forces a deviation from your guide.

[tall torrent]

As it turns out

Combat axe is still meta in havoc so

I build combat axe first and ranged weapon second

[gilded wraith]

Love my rashad, that's wonderful news!

[tall torrent]

Build from here

[gilded wraith]

I wasn't looking forward to ps mobility.

[faint beacon]

I know we threw together blessing wise on an ILAG7 Ghost + Falter

Helps with buffed gunners and shooters

[gilded wraith]

Ahh, cool! I would have overlooked falter.

[tall torrent]

Yea I played it for a couple games before the update, immediately reminded me why I play Rashad and not power sword

[tall torrent]

1 thing tho
Don’t bring it into pus-hardened skin modifier

If u see that, go recon instead

Go crit chance infernus set-up

Pus-hardened skin makes enemies take drastically reduced ranged damage

[gilded wraith]

I was hoping they'd tweak the ps 1 handed mobility when they released the 2 handed version.

[tall torrent]

The only chance you have of killing a specialist at range is infernus proc

[faint beacon]

They are not immune to the effects of propaganda

I mean DOT

[tall torrent]

Nah the mobility is what keeps it in check

Relic blade is kind of

Mid+ tier

Its a fairly straightforward “u can fight everything with it” weapon

But man the movement on that thing is down horrendous

[gilded wraith]

Sweet, I'll make an alternative build for those.

[tall torrent]

I used VIc, u can use XII too
XIV doesn’t work that well with infernus

I would also highly recommend +maniac instead of +flak on recon specifically for havoc

Otherwise the guns just kill specialists too slow to matter

[gilded wraith]

Any changes to rashad perks?

[tall torrent]

None

Carapace + unarmored/elite still

[grand perch]

i think this is wrong

[tall torrent]

Also Tac axe is technically not “dead” in havoc, it’s just not very good

[grand perch]

i have asked randoms if the outlines stayed for more than 5 seconds on several occasions and they all stated it did

have you tested that behaviour recently?

[tall torrent]

We can test that if u want

[grand perch]

sure i have 15 mins

[tall torrent]

I’m in a game rn

[grand perch]

aw dang

[warped sigil]

What's the best vet build currently

[gilded wraith]

Thank you all for the help! Looking forward to trying it out tonight.

[wooden oar]

What’s a good/best 12 lasgun build?

[runic axle]

Is it true that hp% is better than corruption resistance? Someone said so today on chat. Something like that it makes the corruption rate as slow, but you also have more hp for non-corruptive stuff, so it's a straight upgrade?

[grand perch]

im not sure on the math but since HP works against everything and corruption res doesnt, id say the better pick is clearly health

[terse idol]

In theory you would jus

Have more HP to tank corruption rather than

The opposite

[turbid frigate]

Did vet get a new weapon?

[wise fossil]

maybe encouraging literally everyone to do maelstroms wasn't the best idea lmao

third mission in a row that people haven't read the 'no ammo' text

+2 vet using his revolver on poxwalkers

[queen fox]

[wise fossil]

It's actually pretty funny ngl

[hollow ibex]

Pretty awful seeing all the new players

That just hit 30

And jumping into maelstrom

[slow spade]

lol yeah me and my friend hopped into maelstrom asap while the experienced players were still playing

[tame lodge]

No

[tame lodge]

Rashad Plasma

Grenadier

[languid lance]

Why wouldn't they give the Relic sword to Vet too 🥲

[tame lodge]

Deadly Laser Show

[cyan verge]

sometimes it feels like it's longer than 5s but I would expect it is still 5s

[tame lodge]

Not very Guardsman or something like that

[warped sigil]

Do you have link to the build?

Or pic

[languid lance]

I can forgive them if they give us the powerfist

[tame lodge]

6 years

[fiery raft]

is cleave dmg on the duel sword important

[cyan verge]

mobility dump stat

if you got 60% cleave damage then you can at least swap it to the mk V

[vague charm]

Why don't more people put the ghost blessing on las pistols?

[tame lodge]

#veteran-class message

[sullen jackal]

because i have force powers and can perfect dodge every ranged attack already

[tall torrent]

Corruption resist is usually not super useful outside of havoc

[sullen jackal]

also because on veteran when you're shooting a gun you suppress enemies and thus they don't shoot you.

[tall torrent]

Because they don’t know

[hollow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/final-fantasy-vii-remake-cloud-strife-tifa-lockhart-aerith-gainsborough-cloti-gif-27060423

[sullen jackal]

also that meme is slightly annoying when I don't even know what that's from and no one even says what it is they're supposed to know

[distant crest]

i think its from those newer batman movies?

[wise fossil]

a vet just brought a recon with groaner damage to AM 🤨

"the mastery is too low"

[warped sigil]

.

[languid lance]

One of the worst meme to ever exist for sure

It's from "The Batman" with Pattinson.

[terse idol]

Yeah

Its kinda, well folks liked it

I didn't like incel riddler

[somber adder]

The movie was great until that scene with the riddler in prison

The director must have just learned what an incel was and thought "we ball"

Such a letdown of a monologue and insight into the evil guy

[short fern]

Incel riddler lol

[somber adder]

So accurate

[cyan verge]

found a lvl +275 veteran running 2x wound curios...

[somber adder]

[faint beacon]

That is a sentence

[swift crest]

Anyone got a talent tree for the Bolt Pistol? I know Lethal Prox works for the grenades, just not sure how to build out the rest of it.

[somber adder]

Gimme a sec

[somber adder]

If you think the swap speed is unnecessary you can get field improv or whatever you like instead

[earnest bone]

and if you also dump reload on kills, can get bring em down

[swift crest]

Appreciate it.

[somber adder]

But that's the fun part :(