veteran-class

[sharp ember]

pain au chocolat slaps tho

[serene sage]

si si whatever you just said

[lusty coral]

Je deteste la personnes du français, il faut que je dise que cetait arrogant

[serene sage]

though we do have a decent amount of French people here 🤔

[lusty coral]

I think that’s right

Haven’t don’t French in 2 years now

[serene sage]

like in the Hades server, we have a lot of Germans

[crude ermine]

Worth

[lusty coral]

I don’t remember much French tbh

[sharp ember]

my french only goes as far as my understanding of latin roots and common words

[lusty coral]

Is correct @crude ermine grammatically?

[nimble sentinel]

my ass got a visa and ran away from french canada to london lol

[serene sage]

just delete the people of france, it's their fault they are arrogant????

what

[lusty coral]

Idk

I got a low grade in French

Yippi

[nimble sentinel]

not the worst, your spelling is good at least

[crude ermine]

Better than most I've heard

[lusty coral]

Ayyyy Tyty

My French teacher liked me but I sucked at it

[nimble sentinel]

though you are saying you hate a feminine person from the language french and that you have to say whatever they did was arrogant

[sonic marlin]

eyyy another 17%, wish it was diffrent tho

[lusty coral]

BAHAHAHAHHA

[lusty coral]

Ykw I prefer that from what I thought it meant that’s funnier

[nimble sentinel]

I'm not typing accents cause my keyboard is american
"Je deteste les personnes de France, its sont arrogant"

[lusty coral]

I thought it said I hate French people I hate to say that they are arrogant

So Yk

[nimble sentinel]

after a day trip in paris I kinda agree, though I don't wanna pass definitive judgement until I've left the piss stank

vive le quebec

[serene sage]

why do french people hate parisians?

[lusty coral]

Bc Paris is the London of France

I hate Londoners

[sharp ember]

i think everyone hates parisians

[lusty coral]

Same issue

[crude ermine]

Because they're fucking assholes

[serene sage]

that doesn't help me cause I don't even know what the deal is with London

[nimble sentinel]

london's been kind to me tbh

[serene sage]

beyond the stabbing meme

[crude ermine]

They're the LA of European

[serene sage]

now that makes sense

[crude ermine]

Or at least western Europe

[serene sage]

wait Luna aren't you in the US right now or some?

[crude ermine]

No I'm in France

[nimble sentinel]

LA is just like that cause it's concrete hell built for cars and rich people

[crude ermine]

I'm going to Cali for the spring

[serene sage]

i thought you're visiting

[sharp ember]

i heard paris constantly smells like peepee

[serene sage]

right

[crude ermine]

So not yet

[serene sage]

what no free tolets does to people 😔

[crude ermine]

Everywhere does

[nimble sentinel]

there are certainly more pockets of piss stank than anywhere else I've been

[crude ermine]

Been to philly once and my nostrils got assaulted by urinary tract infection pee

[serene sage]

perhaps you haven't been to most third world countries lel

[nimble sentinel]

does florida count?

[serene sage]

oh yeah

I mean they definitely have a weird vibe going down there

Jesus billboard everywhere

[nimble sentinel]

a shame the beaches are so pretty

[serene sage]

and drugs

and loonies

[nimble sentinel]

I never thought I'd miss blizzards lol

[serene sage]

where are you from?

[nimble sentinel]

Quebec, our rain season is winter

[serene sage]

I see

[nimble sentinel]

but I am also predominantly an english speaker so the loss of a language barrier is nice

[crude ermine]

I'm sorry for your loss

[nimble sentinel]

thank you I appreciate that

[lusty coral]

ENGLAND, IT RAINS CONSTANTLY WOOOOO

[serene sage]

I love rain

except when it's cold

which england is

[crude ermine]

I enjoy cloudy whether

Absolutely hate the sunny days

Too bright

[nimble sentinel]

real talk tho it's possibly one of the best places in NA to live in, montreal is a walkable city with reasonable housing and a lower cost of living, it's just fr*nch

[serene sage]

what are you, a vampire?

[lusty coral]

I like wind

[crude ermine]

No

That

Would be your mother

[serene sage]

Minnesota, if you can withstand the winter

[lusty coral]

I hate that I’m agreeing with a French person

[serene sage]

gasps

[crude ermine]

I get that a lot

[lusty coral]

A funny French woman????? HOW

[nimble sentinel]

my brother in He on Terra, I'm Canadian

[crude ermine]

I get that a lot too

[lusty coral]

How often do you get proposed to though Hm

[crude ermine]

Proposed?

[lusty coral]

XD

Bc you get no bitches 😦

[crude ermine]

Fuck you

[serene sage]

then the Twin Cities is great. Walkable in the sense that the public transits are actually decent. Midwest so CoL is low, relatively.

[crude ermine]

I got one

[lusty coral]

When and where

[crude ermine]

I can't do that

[lusty coral]

XD

[nimble sentinel]

Montreal has medicare tho

[serene sage]

yeah well can't argue with that

[serene sage]

hoe ain't is loyal

[lusty coral]

XD a based French person????

[serene sage]

Based on what?

[lusty coral]

It’s a slang

Based means like valid

Good

Kinda thing

[shadow aurora]

Apartment complex? I find it quite simple

[serene sage]

Sounds kinda cringe

[crude ermine]

You're telling me

A GINGER

BREAD THIS MAN??

[serene sage]

A shrimp fried this rice?

[nimble sentinel]

Bird flu?

Yeah..they do that

[tall torrent]

“All warfare is based on deception.” ——Sun Tzu

-> “All warfare is based on deception.” ——Sun Tzu

[serene sage]

In fact, they still do.

[serene sage]

I never said that.
Albert Einstein

[crude ermine]

"yeah he did"

• Goerge Washington

[thick flint]

smoke nades any good?

[serene sage]

as a matter of fact, who even voted for the Big E anyway

[thick flint]

they seem like a meme

[tall torrent]

Very niche

[serene sage]

I didn't, dude seems like a lunatic

no offense, luna

[crude ermine]

No

Wha

[serene sage]

but it's a good meme

we hot box the entirety of Tertium boy

[nimble sentinel]

really only worth taking to avoid a point tax going hard into the right hand side of the tree, they could work but it takes some re-education

[trim steppe]

🤔

[lusty coral]

You’re the only good French person bc you hate gingers

[nimble sentinel]

https://youtu.be/RjS1nlXy1O4?si=B-txufqGNRizHJMp

[serene sage]

oh yeah I saw that

[thick flint]

lets not get carried away here

[sharp ember]

road work ahead? uh, yeah i hope it does

[lusty coral]

They’re funny, racist, hate gingers???

[serene sage]

and you are british

so don't throw rocks from a glass house, friend

[thick flint]

ouch

I personally wouldnt let that slide

[lusty coral]

Yes

1 issue

Cmon

I’m borderline posh

Yes I drink tea

I collect knives and swords

I’m a knife crime victim

Ummmm

What else

[lusty coral]

I like crumpets

[lusty coral]

Nah just bc im insecure and they’re pretty and make me feel better about myself

🙂

[thick flint]

tbh you seem decent

for a brit

[nimble sentinel]

you could do being less unironically bigoted in whatever it is you call comedy

[lusty coral]

Ty

[nimble sentinel]

a gentle reminder that the imperium of man is satire and not meant to be admirable in any respect

[lusty coral]

Nah I put it on tbh I couldn’t care less XD

[nimble sentinel]

go touch some grass, I know it's warm enough outside for you to do that

[lusty coral]

It’s 11pm Nty

[pliant spire]

Does charismatic increase voice of command radius?

[thick flint]

heresy

[lusty coral]

Probably

Idk what it does but probs

[trim steppe]

The toughness gen yes but not the stagger

[lusty coral]

I use infiltrate just bc instant toughness regen and I use shovel

[thick flint]

what about ingame tho?

[lusty coral]

XD

[sharp ember]

yes/sorta*, the toughness boost is based on your allies being inside coherency range, so as long as the coherency indicator is next to their name they will get +50 overtoughness

it does not affect the radius of the stagger ring

[crude ermine]

Why is this taking forever I just wanna play the game

There we go

[sharp ember]

whilst the revive node, they DO have to be inside the ring radius

[crude ermine]

Are you fucking..

OH

Ok ig not

I quite literally cannot play today can i

Wtr

Wtf

[serene sage]

What happened?

[tiny summit]

The warp says "play your backlog"

[serene sage]

What's in yours

[nimble sentinel]

the warp can suck my nuts helldivers 2 only launches tomorrow

but for real it is 11 I gotta sleep

[tiny summit]

Dead Space Remake, Helldivers 2 tomorrow and Tekken 8

[serene sage]

It looks good so far

[nimble sentinel]

I am so hype to unleash my NCD memes

[serene sage]

My friends and I are waiting for user reviews

[tiny summit]

It's got the kernel anti cheat funk though

[gaunt hinge]

"Paint your minis"

[serene sage]

Before we commit

[tiny summit]

I refuse to be a part of this

[nimble sentinel]

smart lad, I'm a dummy relying on steam's refund policy

[serene sage]

One of us would be on the PS5

[tiny summit]

I will happily buy my painted waifu figures like my elysia French maid.

[nimble sentinel]

fair

[serene sage]

So we need to know that it's good

[trim steppe]

Ive had BG3 installed for almost 4 years and never played it. Too busy playing hab dreyko for the 90th time

[tiny summit]

And proud

[slim echo]

[tiny summit]

Have it too. Too afraid to start it to be sucked away from the potential backlog

[serene sage]

You weeb

[tiny summit]

She's precious. Also Chinese

[fast cargo]

Right, getting away from... that, does anyone know why Power Swords deactivate if you get hit?

[tiny summit]

Reasons

[trim steppe]

That's my thing too. I know it'll take over for a while and I'm not ready haha

[nimble sentinel]

I spent like 3 hours to download BG3 to my steam deck for the holidays, only to have tea spilled on it and dead for a month before I can ship it back for repairs

[fast cargo]

Like, I'll be clearing a horde, a poxwalker will tap me from behind, and now my weapon's stuck in a power-down animation

[white minnow]

the chained condition

[finite imp]

they're OP

[fast cargo]

How?

[trim steppe]

It only does that after you hit something once, because it interrupts power cyclers

[white minnow]

your attack chain gets interrupted if you get staggered mid swing

[fast cargo]

That's the thing, it isn't stagger

[junior needle]

Bait taken

[fast cargo]

Like I said, single poxwalker and suddenly I'm animation locked and getting gangbanged

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/fiska-fisk-fishing-fish-fish-on-gif-16629689

[white minnow]

alright fine, "stun"

[fast cargo]

Saw a couple of vets using it earlier, was wondering if I was missing something

[finite imp]

What you saw were dummies

[tiny summit]

Never #veteran-class message

[white minnow]

anyhow, anything that's interrupting your attack chain is making you lose the charge

[fast cargo]

So the fact they went off directly in my line of fire every time was on purpose then. Brilliant.

[trim steppe]

If you get touched between swings it will turn off the extra swings you get from power cycler. If you power it up and get hit before swinging, it stays powered up and ready

[junior needle]

Nope, it's a garbage meme that people take because "muh points"

[fast cargo]

ty. Dumb as hell that it powers down your sword.

[nimble sentinel]

they can't uncharge the shovel get dunked on psword users

[tiny summit]

Virgin power sword user gets interrupted by a single poxwalker. Chad combat axe and shovel require no fancy energize.

[fast cargo]

Brilliant, thanks.

[fast cargo]

Just a brain transplant

[junior needle]

I'm actively getting griefed whenever someone throws smoke nades because I now can't see enemy specials/elites through the smoke

[tiny summit]

Spamming tag

[fast cargo]

I had sharpshooter stance up, so I was lucky enough to avoid that, but yeah, it's the easiest way to troll rn, I think.

[hollow ibex]

That's why you have audio cues /s

[fast cargo]

Barrels aside

[finite imp]

Dummies do nothing on purpose. They have no drive. No direction. They see the plasma gun and they grin like idiots. They aren't trying to troll you, their incompetence is hardly their own fault, more so they're the culmination of societal influences and socio economic disadvantages anD GOD I JUST LOVE THE FUCKING KNIIIIIIFE

EEEEEEEEEEEEE

[torpid mortar]

man I just spend 300K ordo dockets and couldn't get a gun above 350

[fast cargo]

Oof

[junior needle]

Welcome to darktide crafting

[nimble sentinel]

sunrise wen psword user

[junior needle]

Keep in mind the rating is not as important as the stat spread

[sharp ember]

you're level 30 right

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/running-running-man-gif-26341322

me when knife

[torpid mortar]

ye

[sharp ember]

dang

[trim steppe]

I found a new way of being griefed by teammates. I gave myself a combat stim to increase my damage, and 2 seconds later a teammate jabbed me with a rate of fire stim. It cancelled my damage stim and didn't give me any benefit since I was using a Kickback which doesn't have a ROF

[finite imp]

damn that would be cool if they stacked like in Kane and Lynch

[fast cargo]

Don't Celerity Stimms also buff reload speed?

[finite imp]

where if you take too much adrenaline to stay alive you just die

lol

[terse idol]

I feeeel like they didn't know

🥹

Cause frankly I didn't even know it didn't stack

[finite imp]

Always give dummies BOTD

[trim steppe]

Probably not, but it was a funnily misguided gesture by the teammate

[shrewd sierra]

I still think stims are kinda insane when you think about it.

[finite imp]

Expressing anger towards them is a victory for them. It means their antics drew your ire. Indifference and skilling through their BS is the ultimate fuck you.

[terse idol]

What they make the bullets hurt more?

[trim steppe]

I'm pretty sure it doesnt

[shrewd sierra]

Like, we're fighting a Nurgle cult right?
The boys of disease and spreading disease.
And we just find these random syringes laying around in the filth.
And then we inject ourselves with that??
Who the fuck thought that was a good idea?

[finite imp]

Honestly sometimes I wish I had a COD kitty coming in to talk shit to me every match i play so much harder

[torpid mortar]

what

[terse idol]

I like to think those Stims were predropped by a valk before the mission

[finite imp]

I MUST FLAGELLATE IN THE NAME OF THE EMPRA

[terse idol]

Or they were given to the moebian 6th

[fast cargo]

Wiki says 15% increase

[terse idol]

And many got dropped

[finite imp]

dont worry drugs are fine if the good guys take em

bad guys call it meth we call it adderall

[shrewd sierra]

It ain't the drugs I'm worried about

[terse idol]

The stims have the safety seal on them still so its okay

[shrewd sierra]

But if a random yahoo in a bathroom gave me a dirty needle I ain't using that shit lol

[finite imp]

harden up

[terse idol]

To be fair the stims aren't dirty

[trim steppe]

Definitely makes more sense to scatter them around the map than to, you know, hand them to us before we're deployed

[shrewd sierra]

https://tenor.com/bbO4M.gif

[terse idol]

They're like wrapped in a white little holder

[torpid mortar]

please, adderall is not meth

[finite imp]

adderall head spotted

[merry glade]

why the two talents leading to exe stance both dogshit 😩

[terse idol]

TO BE FAIR, it's meth in the correct dosage

[hearty panther]

having done both i can tell you they arnet the same

[trim steppe]

"Hey we've heard complaints about assignments being too dangerous and terrible, so we decided to make things a little more fun by adding in a ✨scavenger hunt!✨"

[finite imp]

it's DEXTRO amphetamines

not meth

believe me

[finite imp]

i run the knife

i know about amphetamines

[torpid mortar]

no, chemically similar but not meth

[terse idol]

Yeah thats fair

[finite imp]

good guy meth

[hearty panther]

if you ever wanted to FEEL the words 'negative energy', meth is great

[torpid mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/going-crazy-willem-dafoe-grin-smile-gif-16959907

[zealous wyvern]

why did i just see a coomers astolfo figure in here

this is the goddamn guard vox

[terse idol]

The zealots are leaking iinn

[civic knot]

Im gonna try playing scriers gaze with this weapon. Do I keep bromentum for a tac axe or switch it out for headtaker?

[zealous wyvern]

what thumbnail?

its a picture

not a video

good video though

but not appropriate here

[terse idol]

May want to ask #psyker-class
But you always want bromemtum

Definetly would test

[zealous wyvern]

idk if bm is important for taxe....

you swing so fast and short

do you need it?

i would think its 2 that benefit small weapons almost like a knife

[terse idol]

You need it for horde clear regardless no?

[zealous wyvern]

you swing so fast

[terse idol]

It doesnt matter if you swing fast if you can't cleave well

[zealous wyvern]

isnt cleave more important for weapons that have slow swings?

[terse idol]

Hmm

[zealous wyvern]

since you really dont wnana get stuck

on slow weapons

[terse idol]

I mean I'm looking at it from the rashad perspective

[zealous wyvern]

rashad is caxe

slow as hell

[terse idol]

Would you consider the caxe a fast melee

[zealous wyvern]

you NEED bm

[terse idol]

Hmmm

[zealous wyvern]

no

i wouldnt

its slow

caxe are slow

thats what im saying

taxe are like a knife

they are super fast

[nimble sentinel]

porque no shomvel

[junior needle]

tac axe

[zealous wyvern]

its a little hatchet you just go bam bam bam bam bam

even with zero cleave youd still be killing tons because of how fast you swing

i feel like bm is still good. just not key?

[terse idol]

Hmm, I need an example

[zealous wyvern]

i feel like the key on taxe is to maximise singletarget damage personally

so you can kill elites

[junior needle]

Not if you take multiple hits to kill things

[zealous wyvern]

yes

which is why

[zealous wyvern]

i said this

[terse idol]

But thats pretty bad

[junior needle]

It still doesn't clear well, also the horde control is poor if you hit one at a time

[terse idol]

Because all axes are good for single target

[zealous wyvern]

well youre not gonna hit a single target

it still has cleave

just not bm level cleave

[terse idol]

Its bad cleave even

[junior needle]

Just bad cleave

[zealous wyvern]

also taxe does not have good singletarget damage

its a light weapon

low dmg

[terse idol]

Damn that's bad

[zealous wyvern]

its nothing like combat axe

its a completely different weapon type

its like comparing a shortsword to a goddamn zweihander

[terse idol]

It sounds like it's closer to a knife but bad

[zealous wyvern]

the combat axe is swung overhead with a massive hammer-like weight point

a hatchet is a very fast weapon

i compared it to knives for a reason

thats why i said that up there

hatchets are like a knife hammer

i guess idk

theyre weird

[junior needle]

The lights on the taxes have either as much or less cleave than knives

[terse idol]

Thats bad at single target

[zealous wyvern]

because its a light

[terse idol]

But its an axe

[junior needle]

The heavies are shit too

[zealous wyvern]

so?

[terse idol]

If its this bad why are we even talking about it

[zealous wyvern]

if the axe head doesnt weigh

[terse idol]

If it's bad at single target

And the cleave is bad

[zealous wyvern]

why would it split armour

[bitter turtle]

Taxe heavies are the best in the game

[terse idol]

Damn it just sounds bad

[bitter turtle]

It's literally a samurai move

[terse idol]

Okay so

[junior needle]

The heavies have as much cleave as knife lights max

[terse idol]

Its okay with heavies

Guuhh

[zealous wyvern]

what

that is insanity

[tall torrent]

It’s like if knife had a little better horde clear but way worse single target dmg

[bitter turtle]

Just reskin into a katana and cleave knights in full plate

[terse idol]

That's pretty bad

[finite imp]

what is a samurai

[bitter turtle]

Honorable

[terse idol]

https://tenor.com/view/juliescinema-scratch-unhppy-gif-12054861

[bitter turtle]

Bushido

[junior needle]

Here you may observe

The cleave values

[nimble sentinel]

I thoguht samurai was a band?

[finite imp]

sushi

[bitter turtle]

BUSHIDOOO

[finite imp]

i didnt know samurais wielded axes

[tiny summit]

Sunrise would be Chipp from Guilty Gear yelling out random Japanese as he charges heretics with a knife

[finite imp]

GORGONZOLAAAAA

[crude ermine]

Finally got things working

[finite imp]

hat was wrong

what

not hat

hat if you want

[bitter turtle]

https://youtu.be/OVhB1urcD68?si=OZvuqpWr2qvCGMe3

Literally a samurai move

[tiny summit]

What are you doing? It was the warp telling you to play something else

[finite imp]

een

weeb

[bitter turtle]

Ratatos

[crude ermine]

My frames kept killing the load time

[crude ermine]

My favorite browntail

[bitter turtle]

I like sciurus more but both are great

Fuck silverash

[junior needle]

Well, at least you can hit the 2 bruiser cleave breakpoint fairly easily because headtaker>>>executor

[finite imp]

I feel the top of the roof come off
Kill everybody there
And I'm watching all the stars burn out
Trying to pretend that I care

But I didn't, no one ever does
And I would, no one ever will
Can't you see it's all flown out of my hands?
And our clothes are all too often ripped
And our teeth are all too often gnashed
And it lasts as long as it possibly can

[light ore]

that's amore

[finite imp]

I sleep but my soul can't rest bucko

[torpid mortar]

what do we think? should I attempt gold?

[finite imp]

no

[torpid mortar]

sad

[finite imp]

happy

[torpid mortar]

?

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/white-tail-deer-therian-white-tail-deer-therian-gif-24614263

[terse idol]

Why not

[gusty ingot]

Hello, im a vet newb. On mk6 power sword do i want brutal momentum and power cycler?

[terse idol]

You already got gets hot t4, keep reload speed change for Unarmoured or elite, and change the 2nd perk to blaze it

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/purple-and-brown-chewing-gum-nom-nom-nom-chew-yummy-gif-25363644

[fresh saddle]

Slaughterer instead of Bromentum

[finite imp]

can someone just pin the psword meta lol

[gusty ingot]

oh neat, this sword has r4 bm and slaughterer

[finite imp]

it's such a solved weapon

[terse idol]

BM is fine too

[finite imp]

bromentum is better imo

[raw steppe]

You want better stats

[terse idol]

You can go either

[gusty ingot]

i was going to replace one with r4 2 hit

[raw steppe]

Ammo is important

[terse idol]

CR is dump stat but with survivalist the way it is

Is eaasy

[terse idol]

Still want power cycler 4 regardless

Of either bromentum or slaughterer

[raw steppe]

Its not lmao

Im always running low on ammo

[finite imp]

anyone know a cologne that smells like fruit loops?

[terse idol]

Just uh

Build dredge gunner BP

Dump CR

[raw steppe]

Especially when I'm at like 60/60 specials/disablers

[terse idol]

Done

[raw steppe]

I have the gunner BP lol

[fresh saddle]

why is +15% against weakspots better than +40% power from Slaughterer?

[raw steppe]

The only way to sustain ammo is to have useful teammates

[finite imp]

because it's got a cooler name you fucking NERD

[gusty ingot]

https://imgur.com/a/xyIirm9 this is what i went with

[hollow ibex]

It's not. It's the hit mass that carries here

[raw steppe]

If your teammates are ass and you need to kill everything you run into major ammo issues

[hollow ibex]

The weak spot damage hardly does anything

[finite imp]

It's not the weakspot damage that makes it good smh

facing my palm

[fresh saddle]

I'll stand corrected if you can explain this to me, when am I NOT going to be cleaving if I'm using powered lights with the Mk 6?

[finite imp]

You just answered your own question with why BM is good

[fresh saddle]

almost as edgy as a bully club :((((

[finite imp]

YOURE CALLING THE KNIFE GUY EDGY WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

[fresh saddle]

woosh

[hollow ibex]

It's a matter of how many enemies you can hit at max damage. Brutal momentum makes a big difference even with charged attacks

[finite imp]

Yeah i get it you said im edgy because you regurgitate comebacks you've heard others say I'm just giving you an out

[trim steppe]

Brutal momentum works in a funky way where if you get the kill to start the cleaving, the blessing lets your full damage apply to every hit. Well, like the first 4-5 hits. Without brutal momentum, you'll still cleave and hit stuff but the damage drops off a bit each target to the point that the 5th target only gets like 30% damage or something

[finite imp]

you're welcome

[hollow ibex]

Yeah exactly

[fresh saddle]

too bad YOUR MOM GAVE YOU AN OUT lololololol

[fresh saddle]

okay i gotcha, that makes sense

[finite imp]

NOW WERE FUCKING TALKING

ADDRESS NOW

GPS COORDINATES

IMMEDIATELY

[urban steppe]

[finite imp]

LONGITUDE AND LTATIUDE POST HASTE

MEET ME IN THE ARBIES PARKING LOT

[urban steppe]

is it a joke or real fight here

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/boring-unimpressed-meh-really-seriously-gif-16279809

yes I'm threatening someone on the internet because of a your mom joke

cmon

[urban steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/ugly-rat-gif-22684978

[finite imp]

im gonna pull up with a pickup truck full of mall ninja knives

[fresh saddle]

forgot the important part about jokes being funny, don't worry about it

[finite imp]

weird I was laughing the whole time

[fresh saddle]

yeah that is weird

[finite imp]

YEAH IM WEIRD OK

WHATEVER

YOU THINK A NORMAL PERSON

ACTS LIKE THIS

[marble plover]

see this is why people think wh40k fans are unhinged

[finite imp]

know*

[crude ermine]

Wasn't a fan of gunning down my own kin but it won me game

[junior needle]

Staring into the warp has known side effects.

Schizophrenia and derangement are some of the more mild ones

[tiny summit]

I have never seen this at this resolution

[finite imp]

i upscaled it

not really

its just what came up

[torpid mortar]

whats the best vet weapon for hord clear. god I hate my power sword

[crude ermine]

A chair

[toxic leaf]

why do vets go executioner stance with columnus

is that a thing

it hurts me to see not one but two vets in a group without shout

[finite imp]

ATTA BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYY

THEY ARE LEARNING SO QUICK

[finite imp]

USE THE NEW KNIFE

Y'all ever tried 5 guys

[junior needle]

Didn't like the new knife, personally

The lights are strictly worse than the mk3 and I don't like having to combo for only slightly better clear with the heavies

[terse idol]

extra damage recoil control why not

[terse idol]

Also

VoC is a brain dead ult

😌

It's meta

Boring and tiring

One of the best

Infil imo is better to clutch

So, of course vets don't want to always run it

[sonic marlin]

whats the best lasgun, i wanna try the infinite ammo build

[terse idol]

Second, exe and MF is pretty good for ciag

[sonic marlin]

what

[terse idol]

Easy way to kill gunners for counter fire and instant MF stacks

[torpid mortar]

mk3 combat blade?

[terse idol]

Yes

Exe is good for CIAG

Turns the game into a shooting range

MF stacks based on weakpoint kill

[last parcel]

ciag best lasgun

[terse idol]

To give more damage

[terse idol]

The Ia

[torpid mortar]

la?

[sonic marlin]

???

[terse idol]

The best lasgun

The infantry lasgun Ia

[steep pier]

I like helbore

[sonic marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-team-hahaha-gif-18072160

[terse idol]

You asked what the best lasgun is

What do you want

[sonic marlin]

this?

[terse idol]

Yes jesus

[steep pier]

Just flattend a damn dh with helbore

[terse idol]

You got like 3 options the lasgun 4

Lasgun Ia

[steep pier]

someone triggered it so I killed it

[terse idol]

And the MXII

The 12

[sonic marlin]

the guy who posted the build uses a Accatran Mk VId Recon Lasgun

[terse idol]

Why would you ever use a recon

Like sorry I'm being snarky

But if you're building for infinite ammo

You're not building a recon

Because shock trooper has an internal cooldown

You will not have positive ammo econ

[steep pier]

They nerfed it yeah

[terse idol]

Second, the nature of recon lasguns means

[steep pier]

Which helbore is best

[terse idol]

Even if youre building a god tier recon lasgun

Its gonna be okay

[steep pier]

I like mk II

[terse idol]

As in, if you build any other gun on a god tier its gonna be GREAT

So you're kinda spending extra energy to build a recon to kinda make it do ok

[steep pier]

recon can be good though

[junior needle]

Yes, I'm disappoint with the new knife

[terse idol]

Yeah, if you make a god roll

Which is alot of effort for

"Good"

[junior needle]

God roll recon is inferior dps wise to a gray talentless ciag

[terse idol]

Where if you build a infantry lasgun for a godroll it'd gonna be pretty good

[gusty bison]

Uh

[steep pier]

Is the new chaxe any good

[terse idol]

Like, damn I wish I had better descriptors

[gusty bison]

Which iLas

[terse idol]

The Ia

[gusty bison]

I guess its ok

[terse idol]

Leagues better than the mxii

[gusty bison]

Better than recon fwiw

[junior needle]

Na they're all very underperforming atm. In both dps metrics and ammo efficiency, even with rending and shocktrooper in the mix.

[gusty bison]

But iLas is deffo bottom 3 guns

[terse idol]

Waack

[steep pier]

I'm using a krieg build myself

[terse idol]

Kinda but still wack

[steep pier]

And krieg outfit

[terse idol]

The mk2 helbore is good though

[steep pier]

So helbore and shovel

[terse idol]

The Bayonet is strong

[gusty bison]

Helbore shovel works fine

[steep pier]

Very

[gusty bison]

Very fine

[steep pier]

Bayonet charge is fun

[fresh saddle]

Mk 2 is great and feels smooth, i like the extra power on the Mk 1 Helbore

[terse idol]

At the moment it's just silly that needing to roll a god tier recon puts it on par with the average

[steep pier]

So mk 3 shovel right

Mine has thrust 4

[gusty bison]

Tbf i would say the performance ceiling of the recon is better than the iLas. But it also requires way WAY more effort to reach that ceiling

[steep pier]

best shovel perk

[gusty bison]

Recon needs too much effort atm to be good

[terse idol]

Hmm

[gusty bison]

Cos a god tier recon is one that also requires a really good pilot to wield it

[terse idol]

I just think, with any semi automatic weapon you gotta expend abit more brain power to use

And like ilas has pretty great precision damage

[gusty bison]

Not if the fullt auto weapon wants to also go headshot spamming

[terse idol]

One shots on gunners

[gusty bison]

Its harder to chain headshots than hit a single bullet

[tiny summit]

I think iLas is just good. Doesn't answer carapace. Works good tho

[gusty bison]

Which is why the recon requires so much effort

[terse idol]

I guess so

[gusty bison]

Everything does this though

[tall torrent]

If you’re building infinite ammo you’re likely using a helbore with shock trooper

[terse idol]

I mean, I guess

[junior needle]

So much effort just to perform worse than others guns

[terse idol]

Mk7 vraks

[gusty bison]

1 tap gunner no problem

[terse idol]

But even that has short comings

[gusty bison]

No crit needed

[tiny summit]

He has been summoned

[terse idol]

Very low mag size

[gusty bison]

Its 25 bullets

[terse idol]

Yes

[gusty bison]

Thats not low

[steep pier]

I need pc 4

[tiny summit]

Nvm you were here. Didn't see

[terse idol]

How many does ia have

[steep pier]

I got 3

[gusty bison]

About 30-40 iirc

[terse idol]

Most guns have like 40-50 mag

[gusty bison]

If we dont count shock trooper

[terse idol]

Compared to 25

[gusty bison]

Thesw guns cant 1 shot a rager though

A V7 can

[tiny summit]

I think that's supposed to be the point of iLas. Lower dmg, but more sustained firing

[terse idol]

And I mean shocktrooper does give the ilas an upper hand in that regard

[gusty bison]

Helbore then?

Helbore is even more sustainable than iLas

[terse idol]

More effort, also the irons are a pain

[gusty bison]

Due to superior crit blessings

[terse idol]

[gusty bison]

???

Helbore is a fraction of the effort of the iLas

[terse idol]

It is more effort, gotta charge on enemies

[gusty bison]

Everything the iLas does the helbore does better

The sights are better

[terse idol]

I just play a point and click adventure with my ilas

[gusty bison]

The stability is better

RoF is better

[finite imp]

Guys can we all link hands and thank Jesus for this meal

[gusty bison]

Damage is better

[terse idol]

Okay the sights being better

Is subjective to be fair

[gusty bison]

iLas sights lie.

[terse idol]

I prefer the dot

[gusty bison]

Like that objectively makes them bad

The gun doesnt shoot where the sights are

[terse idol]

Isn't that only mid dodge?

[gusty bison]

Yes

[terse idol]

I've never had this problem

[gusty bison]

And end of a dodge

[terse idol]

Yes

I've never had this problem

[junior needle]

I was here the whole time

[terse idol]

Its also not noticeable but sure I'll concede

[gusty bison]

The iLas takes much longer to recover from a dodge

[tiny summit]

So they don't lie. Most of the time

[gusty bison]

Like easily another 0.2-0.4s

[terse idol]

I play exe and MF I'm not taking many shots mid dodge and immediately ending a dodge

[tiny summit]

It really isn't noticable

[gusty bison]

Its still worse than every other sight

[terse idol]

I'm gonna say something brave

[gusty bison]

In the game

[tiny summit]

K

[terse idol]

But the smaller in the decimals we get

The less noticble it is

And I cannot tell

[gusty bison]

Helbore sight isnt noticeably bad then

[terse idol]

Between two dodges of the ilas and helbore

[tiny summit]

Idc if it's the exception. It's still not drastic

[terse idol]

Visually it's a block

Again preference

[gusty bison]

If u cant tell the difference between the iLas dodge and helbore dodge

I dunno how u can tell the difference between the helbore sight and iLas sight

[terse idol]

[tiny summit]

Simple. 1s a reflex with a clear picture. The other is a flat iron sight

[terse idol]

You're just telling me an open dot with a weird little cathedral housing is better than a giant block taking up the bottom of your screen
Thats just how irons play

[gusty bison]

And 1a is way less stable than helbore

[terse idol]

Even the vraks is like this

[tiny summit]

I like helbore irons. Doesn't mean you can make this kind of comparison

[tiny summit]

K. It's still a clear LOS picture of an entire target.

[gusty bison]

Its not though?

Its visually cluttered

[tiny summit]

Yea it is

[gusty bison]

The ring is completely useless

[terse idol]

Also this let's me complain about the vraks mk7 iron not being illuminated and that sucks

[terse idol]

Nooo

[gusty bison]

The dot sways dramaticaly and constantly

[tiny summit]

Some would say the entire block of the gun at the bottom is visual clutter

[terse idol]

Its just part of any dot sight

[tiny summit]

Not an issue

[gusty bison]

The ring literally doesnt follow the dot

So all it does is being distracting

[terse idol]

The ring

[gusty bison]

Take away the ring and its a way better sight

[tiny summit]

You're the only person I've seen who points out its distracting

[terse idol]

What ring the housing?

[gusty bison]

Lol no

Several people have mentioned the same thing about mg sight

In this chat

[tiny summit]

It isn't distracting

[gusty bison]

Directly to you

[terse idol]

At the end of the day it's preference

Because it isn't distracting for me

What is distracting for me is the irons on a helbore blocking the bottom of my screen

Again it's just subjective

[tiny summit]

Don't recall, still can't see how at all its distracting or enough to a point to bring it up

[terse idol]

It feels very weird for me to bring up a block of the weapon that's gonna cover the better part of half of my targets body

To align the iron with their head

[gusty bison]

The ring is a massive thing in the middle of ur screen that has zero semblance of where the aim is

Thr best thing u can do is ignore it

[terse idol]

While the reflex/red dot I can see more of their body

[finite imp]

we arguing about personal preferences again?

well i like PANCAKES MORE THAN WAFFLES

[terse idol]

If I shoot where my dot is centered on a head

I'm gonna get a head shot

[gusty bison]

Except

Sometimes u dont

[tiny summit]

Pretty thin ring but ok

[gusty bison]

Thats the issue with the MG12

And ilas in general

[terse idol]

I dunno I regularly play exe and mf

And I consistently hit headshots

[gusty bison]

The dot isnt where the gun shoots

[terse idol]

The mxii would have it less

[gusty bison]

Do u constantly dodge?

[tiny summit]

That is definitely not its problem

[terse idol]

Because your sight would theoretically have time to center

[tiny summit]

Like not even close

[finite imp]

yes

[gusty bison]

It doesnt

[terse idol]

I don't need to because I play to clear out light and heavy gunners

[gusty bison]

...

Do u like

Run camo or smth

Or hide in the back

[terse idol]

And I gain toughness back on 10 stacks

Yes

[gusty bison]

Oh ok

[terse idol]

I run 10 stacks and balance my toughness

[gusty bison]

That explains it

[tiny summit]

You using the iLas like a smg?

[fresh grail]

what else is there to do in vet chat? 💪

[gusty bison]

I mean yes the MG12 sight is fine if you stand stock still and take determined

[terse idol]

I don't stand stock still

[gusty bison]

But every gun's sight is fine at that point

[terse idol]

I strife slowly

Because I can also get stacks of MF by just getting headshots

[gusty bison]

So almost standing stock still

[finite imp]

"Hi I'm new here, what blessings should I put on my Plasma gun and Power sword?"

[terse idol]

Camo helps with downtime

[tiny summit]

Let the femboys break containment

[gusty bison]

Yep. Stealth

I mean yea in those cases sure

[terse idol]

Camo isn't stealth

[finite imp]

KEEP
THEM
SUPPRESSED

[terse idol]

I don't lose agro

With camo

[gusty bison]

Oh right u run exec

[terse idol]

Yes

So I have to make

ALOT of headshots

[tiny summit]

It's too late

[terse idol]

To keep counterfire and MF up

[gusty bison]

So u cant swap to melee

Urgh

[terse idol]

Yes exe sucks because of that

🥹

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-emoji-gif-25749073

[terse idol]

We have came full circle

To "Exe is bad"

I'm sorry

[tiny summit]

VoC was a mistake

[finite imp]

if executioners stance let me keep melee i'd use it

[gusty bison]

Yea since ur using exec ur playing in the ack

And with camo ur basically not really moving much

[tiny summit]

Reason why helbore is man's best non-plasma

[gusty bison]

So yes in those cases

Mg sight is fine

But frankly thats like perfect conditions

[tiny summit]

It really isnt

[gusty bison]

Plus u need determined

[gusty bison]

With almost every other gun I can shoot gunners while being actively in melee with a rager though

[tiny summit]

Eh. You can work without it. Same with other guns that feel suppression ads

[gusty bison]

Theres like

[tiny summit]

Sounds like a skill issue with iLas. I don't see how you can miss

I shoot in melee range too

[gusty bison]

Because u need to wait for dodge reset

Which gets u hit

[fresh grail]

up and at them!

[tiny summit]

You actually dont

[gusty bison]

If u dont ur shot goes to narnia

We literally have videos showing this

[tiny summit]

Mine doesn't but k

[gusty bison]

Like theres videos in this chat with proof that shots go to narnia

Even when the dot is perfectly on the head

[finite imp]

https://tenor.com/view/kurt-angle-stare-100-yard-stare-meme-gif-251436459491629941

[fresh grail]

just use a revolver or plasma gun and shoot logs instead 💪

[finite imp]

uh oh

[gusty bison]

#veteran-class message

#veteran-class message

Here you go

Videos in question

[finite imp]

That was 100% a miss

not a doubt in my mind

[tiny summit]

This is the worst evidence to indicate a problem ever

[gusty bison]

...

[tiny summit]

I think you need your eyes checked where that dot is

[gusty bison]

Lol kay

[finite imp]

that shot went so right

im sorry it's just true

[gusty bison]

That shot was so off course it went to narnia

[shadow dagger]

what was that one browser extension for brunts shop called again

[tiny summit]

Bruh that 2nd vid literally shows the dot off head

[finite imp]

plus they were using the sketchiest sight possible, that "scope" from weapons extended

hard copium imho ngl

[gusty bison]

They used that sight because it shows actual crosshair placement without the dot wobble

[tiny summit]

Yea...because the dot wasn't even at an attempt to be aligned

[gusty bison]

Cos the mg12 sight wobbles

[gusty bison]

It went nowhere near the crosshair lol

It was like easily half a head off course

[tiny summit]

Literally a non issue

Worse videos to ever indicate an issue

[gusty bison]

• Gun shoots half a head off course
• Non issue

[finite imp]

nothing to do with your shots dissappearing ancecdotal evidence at best

[gusty bison]

No other ADS weapon has this problem

[finite imp]

a half a head of course might have given it a 50/50 shot at hitting

[tiny summit]

Testing methodology...very questionable

[gusty bison]

Dunno what to say at this point except theres some serious double standards here

[finite imp]

ok

[gusty bison]

Helbore sight mildly inconvenient = bad

MG sight being off course during dodging = not an issue

[graceful plover]

I got what is most certainly the worst bolter ever for my Zealot a bit ago

[gusty bison]

Whats next? Bolter doesnt do enough damage?

[finite imp]

you're going to miss your shot if your dot isn't at the head lol

it's that simple

[gusty bison]

Sorry that wasnt directed at you

[graceful plover]

thats literally it tho

9% in damage

[gusty bison]

Womp

Thats rough

[finite imp]

you're firing rubber snakes

[tiny summit]

Not from me. Because I'm fine with both sights. Also still completely different. No matter how distracting you say that circle is, it's a clear picture LOS. You can see an entire target's body/torso aiming at their head. Aim above the head with helbore? Woops. Enemy gone.

[gusty bison]

Theres literally other people saying how crap the MG12 sight is

[graceful plover]

still have it, but now I just vibing with Bob, my Vet that is basically an MMO support

[gusty bison]

So its not just me like you were saying

[tiny summit]

Yea and I think some people can be wrong

[gusty bison]

Also not true

I can aim above a gunner head and still see them fine

:P

Tag exists

[tiny summit]

I'd put this down like near the barrel bottom of weapon issues/QOL fixes

[graceful plover]

also, anyone else got an accent after getting your vet to 24 almost all at once?

[gusty bison]

Its one of three things keeping the iLas in the bottom of the barrel tbh

[tiny summit]

It really...really isnt

[gusty bison]

• Shit dodges
• Inverse falloff
• No real niche

Like what do u gain

A holosight? Use the laspistol

[tiny summit]

The miniscule wobble fix isn't going to send it to the moon

[gusty bison]

With some other guns I can shoot mid dodge

[bitter turtle]

Just to defend my choice

[tiny summit]

K

[bitter turtle]

I use that scope

On v7

[tiny summit]

I can shoot mid dodge too and hit stuff

[bitter turtle]

Never had that problem

[gusty bison]

Pffff

Ok

And i can hit things with helbore sights.

One is way easier than the other

[tiny summit]

And I love helbores

[gusty bison]

Im not saying the iLas is unusable

But like

[tiny summit]

The sight wobble isn't the hidden sauce though

[gusty bison]

What guns are worse than it

Genuinely

Recon yes

[tiny summit]

Then you should work on phrasing

[gusty bison]

I said iLas is bottom 3 guns

[bitter turtle]

Also fuck you too

[tiny summit]

Not really. But k

[bitter turtle]

Jk

[gusty bison]

Name 3 guns worse than iLas

Ergun classes

So recon is 1

Not 3

[bitter turtle]

Like unironically though the 12 just felt clunky at long range compared to what I'm used to (v7)

I could feel the so called wobble

Idk

[gusty bison]

Mhm. The iLases are all kinda clunk

Mg1a is the least clunky

But it still has the iLas stability issue

[bitter turtle]

I assure you the sight has nothing to do with it

[gusty bison]

I think the only other gun with similar stability is bolter?

But bolter also just bodyshots

[tiny summit]

Idk. I don't like shredders that much. Columnus brace I don't like that much. It's one of the burst rifle I don't like as much. You do also realize completely different guns right? Like what is best to worst? iLas kills. Very ammo efficient doming of trash. Elites/Specials don't take a lot? What is this "best/worst" cases? It's easy with recon because of how much of an outlier it is, but even when it was "good" or gets buffed its niche is probably gonna be low, pinpoint stream dps

[bitter turtle]

I literally played almost 200 levels with v7 with that scope and never had a problem with it

[gusty bison]

Columnus braced isnt a gun class

Its part of the three braced autos

[bitter turtle]

Incidentally I think 12 is just a bad v7 atm

[tiny summit]

XII is so...meh

[gusty bison]

But like

If we want a gun that can kill trash efficiently. Helbore.

Does it faster

[tiny summit]

K. And different gun classes have different use cases. Shocktrooper kinda makes iLas and HBs more ignorant to ammo econ

[gusty bison]

Survivalist makes like

[tiny summit]

Full auto mod MG4 and Ia are still nice

[gusty bison]

Almost every gun ignorant to ammo con

[gusty bison]

Its slower than helbore thou

MG 4 needs to 2 shot poxwalkers

[tiny summit]

Not as ignorant. Still easy to run orange because I like shooting in my shooty game

[gusty bison]

Whil helbore kills two poxwalkers in 1 shot

[tiny summit]

K

[gusty bison]

Plus helbore crits more often thus using less ammo

[tiny summit]

You know they are also different guns right?

Like functionally different

[gusty bison]

I mean for horde clear? Not really

[tiny summit]

Like ROF, handling, magazine size, swap speed

[gusty bison]

As is the recon

[tiny summit]

Reload speed. All these factors at play

[gusty bison]

Doesnt stop the recon from being bottom of the barrel

[tiny summit]

To where I get annoyed where people hyper focus on stuff in a vacuum

[gusty bison]

Helbore wins on like

Almost all of those though

Swapspeed is a weird one cos helbore kinda doesnt need to swap

[tiny summit]

K. Someone doesn't know the differences, so I don't think furthering this discussion is useful.

[gusty bison]

I would give u that

[tiny summit]

You don't iLas. K.

[gusty bison]

The differences are a non issue :P

[bitter turtle]

helbore is carried by the spear on it

prove me wrong

[gusty bison]

The spear does solve the swap speed problem ye

[serene sage]

you're wrong

[junior needle]

Helbores also have the benefit of not doing absolute dogshit flak damage

And damaging carapace by default

[tiny summit]

Worst way to try to take someone's point from a different debate but K.

[bitter turtle]

damn you got me

[gusty bison]

I mean I told u to name three gun classes worse than the iLas and u kinda just dodged the question

[bitter turtle]

ok

[tiny summit]

Only time I feel the flak dmg is mauler body shots or scab ragers. iLas doesn't get the luxury of bayonet

[serene sage]

glock ak barrett

they are worse than las guns

[gusty bison]

Got me there

[tiny summit]

Wouldn't say I dodged the question because I don't think many weapons are actually bad or outright worse.

[gusty bison]

Then iLas is bottom 3

[bitter turtle]

i rerecorded

the fucking video

with the

DEFAULT sight

which is a complete piece of shit

by the way

so all you "UM AKSHUALLY that's a modded scope" ppl can see

[gusty bison]

If u cant name 3 gun classes worse than the iLas, then the iLas is by definition, bottom 3.

[serene sage]

Moana 2 is announced

[novel silo]

Does anyone for the love of god know how to defeat the Karnak twins on damnation?

[tiny summit]

K.

[dire olive]

Hard mode or just normal damnation?

Either way don't play with randoms, everyone who's good at it has already done it and moved on

Then git gud idk

[gusty bison]

Find a good team, delegate roles.

[bitter turtle]

reduce their hp to 0

tee hee

[gusty bison]

If ur playing vet u wanna run plasma

[dire olive]

Or revolver

[gusty bison]

Cos ammo is a non issue in karnak and u are drowning in elitrs

Volver is an alternativr too

If u like weapon spec

An ogryn teammate makes it way easier

[novel silo]

I keep getting hit with the “get gud” moniker but I’ve pretty much done everything by I can to try and “get good”. I just can’t seem to pass the damn lvl on damnation.

[bitter turtle]

do you need help

[gusty bison]

As well as having someone on mine clearing duty

[bitter turtle]

i dont mind helping