you know
#veteran-class
bitter turtle
frank ledge
if u sleep you fast travel into the future
bitter turtle
you thrust the oblter into them
literally
just stick a bayonet on it
gun is fixed
fervent quiver
I PUT MY BOLTER ON A STEALTH BUILD?
terse idol
if u sleep you fast travel into the future
I fast travel into the nightmare zone sometimes
frank ledge
Sly Marbo
terse idol
Speaking of which, had a dream that my car suddenly combusted and I was watching as fire came out of the fans
Good times...
frank ledge
Speaking of which, had a dream that my car suddenly combusted and I was watching...
Spontaneous combustion
The emprah is warning you to not buy a tesla
terse idol
serene sage
Yeah
bitter turtle
but
what you failed to account for
is the special action
does 3x damage
compared to everything else
when i use it on a dog
!!!
(or mutie)
wanton dawn
Wait til they introduce the new infested faction
serene sage
Holy shit the tech
muted knot
Holy moly
serene sage
muted knot
BOLTER OP
terse idol
Still better than recon
muted knot
@stark escarp post it on Reddit now quick 
bitter turtle
terse idol
Let's goo
muted knot
Crazy numbers
serene sage
Crackhead numbers
bitter turtle
it doenst even do that mcuh to normal poxwalkers
clearly this was an intended tech by fatshark
muted knot
Quick someone figure out the perfect build for melee bolter
bitter turtle
so you are supposed to bonk the dogs and muties
muted knot
https://i.gyazo.com/c7fdc7bf6b10c9506645cbab48f698d4.jpg
Try a burster
bitter turtle
with the 5x/10x dmg multiplier
serene sage
Try a burster
Unironically bonking busters will knock them back though
bitter turtle
muted knot
Unironically bonking busters will knock them back though
What really ?
wanton dawn
https://i.gyazo.com/cf8dfaa686a1b9eb919732ece6ffe446.png
Go try melee bolter in malice
serene sage
TWO HUNDRED AND NINETEEN?
wanton dawn
What really ?
Yeah
muted knot
Yooooooooo
serene sage
What really ?
Yeah you don't have to swap to push busters
bitter turtle
melee bolter is like
wanton dawn
I do have a gif of that
muted knot
This is big gamers
bitter turtle
":we have bayonet at home"
serene sage
Just put me out of my misery
muted knot
Does plage ogryn count as infested ?
serene sage
Why do I like such a gun 😔
fervent quiver
30 damage to a crusher
muted knot
fervent quiver
this will take a while
terse idol
Monstrosity is imagine
wanton dawn
muted knot
Oh damn
terse idol
You know that makes sense
wanton dawn
I have funnier gif from p12
wanton dawn
Rofl, lvl 532. Baby craime here
bitter turtle
o7
terse idol
🥹
wanton dawn
gotta take kraks to cover the weakness vs carapace
Obviously
fervent quiver
...umm
jade notch
Well, Exec Stance + Focus Fire Bolter works in Auric Damn HISTG. Just needs a Team with VoC or Choir because there's only so much CC you can do (which is mostly with Melee or Frags):
wanton dawn
Go for it champ
wanton dawn
Not really 
turbid turtle
how hard is it to roll power cycler IV
wanton dawn
Still, you can probably be 1st dmg with it
fervent quiver
I'm doing that fat 140 to a scab
wanton dawn
So perfect to troll malice
fervent quiver
limbsplitter
bitter turtle
they are outdamaging me
stiff pasture
Semi auto is just a pain to use sometimes because it jitters for whatever reason
wanton dawn
Bolter suffers from plasma comparaison. P12 it was the reverse
stiff pasture
how hard is it to roll power cycler IV
stares at the 5 or so pswords I upgraded and got power cycler while trying to get BM4
turbid turtle
*stares at the 5 or so pswords I upgraded and got power cycler while trying to g...
i just got BM4 wanna trade
fervent quiver
I've gotten bm4 3 times
stiff pasture
Nah I got it eventually. If I could I would give it to you though
wanton dawn
Bm4 is like, 4th to 5th best blessing on ps right now though slaughterer 
wanton dawn
Oh cra0
fervent quiver
3 humans are in my game
bitter turtle
they came in
wanton dawn
Sorry, though it was slaughterer
bitter turtle
stiff pasture
How the
cedar pecan
it pains me to look at this, knowing it will get bricked
wanton dawn
You got outdps by psyker the psyker
stiff pasture
it pains me to look at this, knowing it will get bricked
This is either gonna go really well or brick really hard
bitter turtle
damnit
they're just urnning ahead
actually killing things
i quit
i need to install true solo before i try this again
muted knot
https://i.gyazo.com/bb9718489558be2be4fad13624299e7e.jpg
Hey can you show me your character ? Cause I feel like I played with you a few days ago
fervent quiver
muted knot
What are we looking at here ?
fervent quiver
damage from the greatest build of all
muted knot
A Spedition lobby ?
fervent quiver
yes
fervent quiver
yes
muted knot
strange grove
nothing like playing with people who refuse to use melee, note the times down and melee damage of this psyker
strange grove
lol
muted knot
They put me in a room
A rubber room
A rubber room with rats
And rats make me crazy
Crazy ?
I was crazy once
strange grove
muted knot
They put me in a room
A rubber room
A rubber room with rats
And rats make me crazy
bitter turtle
Hey can you show me your character ? Cause I feel like I played with you a few d...
its just the krieg set
muted knot
Probably wasn't you then
spark helm
dumdum deathspitter on this here columnus iag is the move yeah?
I think I have a sweet one I can set up.
torn root
dumdum deathspitter on this here columnus iag is the move yeah?
depends on what you want it to achieve
but thats usually the move
spark helm
something just safe and works well really.
nothing more specialized. something I can take into anything like aurics eventually.
Mostly running exe stance and focus target/weapon specialist.
torn root
fire frenzy + dumdum some people would say too but that's only close damage, wirks directly with dumdum tho
low lava
Columnus IAG is so good that it works out of the box, blessings are just a cherry on top
torn root
Columnus IAG is so good that it works out of the box, blessings are just a cherr...
this
low lava
as long as the base stats are fine you're golden
low lava
looks good
good thing about it is that the dmg per bullet is on the low side, damage isn't super important on it either lol
torn root
change crit chance is the only recommendation i have
low lava
going from 60% to 80% is like maybe 6 dmg difference lol
torn root
flak or carapace is probably a better pick
low lava
flak/unyielding are good
torn root
even unyielding
torn root
you should probably consider using onslaught with mk5 regardless
wouldn't advise not doing so
low lava
I run columnus on gunpsyker, haven't done columnus on vet but it's a strong weapon nonetheless
brittleness + rending probably makes it usable against crushers
torn root
Vet makes it way stronger than on any other class
kill maulers in less than a sec
and roughly 3 seconds on crushers
faster depending if you have rng with crits
low lava
Deadshot lesgo
torn root
yes
spark helm
Basically what I'll be doing with this and maybe something nicer for another gun/weapon (maybe a solid chainsword or something) is to have at least like two guns and some whatever of melees that are just going to give me something to work with in damnation and aurics. After that, just full sending it on the zealot and building everything up.
spark helm
Luckily, vets and zealots share enough guns and melee that I'll have nice stuff on both.
spark helm
oh for blessings?
torn root
sorry but deadshot makes this gun nutty
i will be the one guy that 100% recommends it
bitter turtle
the damage is very high
low lava
I'm not memeing on it
torn root
^
bitter turtle
ok
torn root
im runing 2 +3 stamina curios
bitter turtle
ther is a huge difference
between deadshot on a laspistol
and deadshot on one of the highest rof weapons
lol
low lava
Not really because I sprint all the time, I'm usually at like sub 10% stamina
low lava
but only need 1 stamina to push so life is fine
bitter turtle
so there is a big upside
torn root
deadshot on mk5 literally chews through stamina
torn root
full stamina with +6 bars gives you like 6 seconds of shooting straight
strange grove
wtf? sword sawing doesn't interrupt crusher overhead?
bitter turtle
and to be used to abusing duck and dive or else you wont have enough stamina for more than 1 clip
i think the gun is perfectly fine without it though so i dont use it
being out of stam really fucks up the flow of vet defensive maneuvers
so ive been caught out when ive tried it before
low lava
Stam regen trinkets
torn root
i use it with the focus target augment
low lava
the good ole VT2 cata meta
rose drum
wtf? sword sawing doesn't interrupt crusher overhead?
Sword sawing? What does that mean?
torn root
+3 stamina curios with stamina regen needless to say
low lava
Yea, stam regen is goated
strange grove
Sword sawing? What does that mean?
sawwing with the chain sword
low lava
I run it on all my classes lol
rose drum
Ah
bitter turtle
but yeah
rose drum
I don't know about that, sorry
low lava
or at least vet and zealot
bitter turtle
i think deadshot on the slower iags is a great idea to make up for the dps difference though
bitter turtle
agri iag can use it pretty well without killing your stamina
low lava
That was last year's off meta
bitter turtle
and it helps close the gap between it and column dps
low lava
Agri IAG was secretly goated if you got a god roll because you could hit the same headshot breakpoints as kantrael 12
except you had cleave as well
snow thistle
What's the best melee for pushing back a crowd ?
frank ledge
Ogryn
low lava
Shovel probably
snow thistle
Yes, but for veterans ?
low lava
pushing back as in knocking back and holding the line, kill speed is decent
strange grove
these chainswords are kinda ass, regret spending resources to get an OK one
low lava
pushing back as in murdering everything through the way, power sword with power cycler
wanton dawn
Pushing back meaning ?
snow thistle
Yes
low lava
Shovel/Power sword best for standing your ground style of gameplay basically
bitter turtle
prtobably the shovel
or unironically
the knife
can hold a horde in place
forever
wanton dawn
All weapon besides knife has good push. Shovel has best stam
bitter turtle
just not kill it at any reasonable speed
snow thistle
I have a sniper build and when I get overflowed, I get gangbanged in 2sec
bitter turtle
not really what you were asking for in this case because its mostly b/c it can dodge in place forever
low lava
probably shovel
torn root
What's the best melee for pushing back a crowd ?
shovel has the most cc
but god awful damage
wanton dawn
I have a sniper build and when I get overflowed, I get gangbanged in 2sec
Sounds like solution to wrong problem though
torn root
eeeeeh
bitter turtle
like
compared to what
the psword?
yeah it does less damage
it can clear hordes and the new ones can bonk oneshot a lot of specials that arent unyielding
snow thistle
I mean, i'd expect a good cc melee to be a good pair with a long range weapon/build
bitter turtle
I mean, i'd expect a good cc melee to be a good pair with a long range weapon/bu...
rather than ccing them
why not just
kill them
anyway what is your "sniper weapon" in question
low lava
Death is permanent CC after all
torn root
it can clear hordes and the new ones can bonk oneshot a lot of specials that are...
im not arguing against unyielding killing so imma go ahead and disregard that before someone twists words
wanton dawn
If you want a good melee weapon for sniper build just play mk1 or mk2 hellbore and use bayonet
strange grove
can someone recommend a melee weapon to compliment a kant laspistol? Melee focused build
bitter turtle
im not arguing against unyielding killing so imma go ahead and disregard that be...
idk what you mean by that
snow thistle
anyway what is your "sniper weapon" in question
Vaks 7
bitter turtle
the new shovels objectively has absolutely garbo unyielding damage
bitter turtle
Vaks 7
oh, just use a psword
i use the same weapon
in auric mael
i actually pair it with teh shovel but it leaves you a bit lacking vs monstros
i just like the shovel tho
low lava
can someone recommend a melee weapon to compliment a kant laspistol? Melee focu...
If you wanna go melee vet, not running Psword is sort of a throw/going off meta for sure
bitter turtle
yes just do psword
strange grove
If you wanna go melee vet, not running Psword is sort of a throw/going off meta ...
this is the only one I have
snow thistle
U can stop flexing, I see that u have a Big pp
wanton dawn
this is the only one I have
Thats good. Switch flak to unyiekding if you lack boss dmg
low lava
probably have to swing 4 times to kill ragers instead of 3 but still dumb af
wanton dawn
Ps sunder does not fear flak
low lava
Flak is nice since you get to 3shot scab ragers on headshot
torn root
this is the only one I have
infested should probably be swapped i cant imagine that weapon NOT killing that enemy type
strange grove
unyielding is nice since I am taking smoke nades
bitter turtle
infested is locked
torn root
oh no!
low lava
good crafting system
strange grove
should I just farm a new mk6?
low lava
uhh, if you want to commit hard to it sure
wanton dawn
Unyielding on ps is kinda nice cuz you do want to hit boss with it
low lava
but what you have is perfectly usable
he doesn't need unyielding for boss because laspistol is dumb on boss
assuming infernus
wanton dawn
Also ps is lenient on perk anyway
cedar pecan
what can I do to fix this
wanton dawn
what can I do to fix this
Block and slaughterer swap, lock the rest
torn root
what can I do to fix this
sunder* and flak?
low lava
slaughterer is ok, it's not bad
dusk spruce
worth to get even with 59% on pene?
low lava
Block efficiency to flak for sure
wanton dawn
Slaughterer is 4-5th blessing on ps rn
cedar pecan
Block efficiency to flak for sure
alright
low lava
3rd probably after PC4
bitter turtle
is rampage still bugged
low lava
Bromentum=Sunderer=>slaughter
wanton dawn
It is outshined by bm, sunder and even rampage
Rampage still bugged
It is hold back by activation condition
low lava
https://i.imgur.com/uDNWYA0.png there's mine lol
Elites is for 2tapping crushers with even 1 stack of tag
cedar pecan
So this is what I did
wanton dawn
Its good. Flak and bm can be swapped depending on your needs/preference
low lava
I think for mk3 I'd probably prefer sunderer
cedar pecan
Unyielding aint that bad since I always use melee for bulwarks
low lava
but bromentum is good too
Cool thing about sunderer is it lets you cleave through bulwark shields lol
wanton dawn
I have a bunch of sunder showcase with ps. Its fun
low lava
doesnt damage the bulwark, but you can hit stuff on the other side of bulwarks
cedar pecan
ah
low lava
useful since you keep the bulwark staggered while you keep killing the stuff around it with impunity
wanton dawn
Like this #veteran-class message
low lava
Bromentum is better single target damage, but mk6 is the better single target damage power sword
MK3 has easier horde clear so sunderer is probably better for it, but personal preference (and what RNGsus gives you), blah blah blah
wanton dawn
Sunder also allow you to do some dumb challenge #veteran-class message
woeful ibex
shit, they changed it back to 11:00 AM Swedish time for skin rotation
Winter Uniform in a Desert Hive World
wanton dawn
Not realistic but it is good info that ps cannot cleave more than 2 target on most melee elite
Making rampage worse among other things
umbral scaffold
those ragers just have really thick necks
wanton dawn
Also dreg ragers are easier to cleave
So rampage is better on them
Sunder and ps have about same ttk on flak rager, funnily enough
If you could reach os consistently on em, bm would be better but
deep fable
rending
gray finch
no damage taken
idle swallow
nice, I still haven't happened to snag the no HP dmg penance yet through just normal gameplay
haughty pond
Winter Uniform in a Desert Hive World
wdym totally realistic, keep in mind that us army literally used grandma's couch camo pattern for over 20 years
and they used it in desert even
we're not far from home with these winter skins
woeful ibex
wdym totally realistic, keep in mind that us army literally used grandma's couch...
yeah
don't forget we got different uniforms too
can't be picky
haughty pond
but for real
rough palm
haughty pond
what one guy said on reddit
rough palm
Can I save it bros
haughty pond
it's cringe
they literally want to prolong everything by feeding us some scraps
I might drop the game for the second time before anything cool comes out
here I wanted that enforcer outfit and cadian one
guess I'll never see it
haughty pond
change first perk and first blessing and you're good to go
rough palm
I already changed a blessing
haughty pond
but this infernus blessing doesn't seem to good
strange sparrow
No you can’t save it
Hellebore stats are giga demanding
You need very very good stats on stopping and damage to reach breakpoint if I’m not wrong with Hellbore Mk2
rough palm
but this infernus blessing doesn't seem to good
I just took whatever I had over the salvo blessing
dusty sluice
You need very very good stats on stopping and damage to reach breakpoint if I’m ...
Is this ok?
strange sparrow
Charge rate
late hatch
charge rate and ammo swap would be better
gusty bison
Deffo needs onslaught
late hatch
for the big boys it makes a diff
haughty pond
I don't and it works wonders
strange sparrow
It’s a mk2 if you don’t charge it, it don’t kill any elites/special
gusty bison
Cos it charges so fast at high charge rate
trim hemlock
who tf charges it
I LOVE charging my Mk2, how did you know?
haughty pond
Cos it charges so fast at high charge rate
and consumes more ammo
gusty bison
Its a mk 2
strange sparrow
…
gusty bison
Mk 2s dont use ammo
gusty bison
Like helbore 2 is literally the most ammo efficient gun in the game
gusty bison
Las Gun Crit don’t use ammo
Forget this
haughty pond
that is if you get that crit
gusty bison
Even without shock trooper it still is ammo positive
strange sparrow
that is if you get that crit
Surgical give 100% Crit chance
gusty bison
Helbore mk 2 has effectively infinite ammo
strange sparrow
Because you charging it
strange sparrow
I mean you need the ADS and all the stuff
haughty pond
well whatever I mainly used it for the bayonet
dusty sluice
Is the a difference from the damage from hipfire charge damage and ads?
gusty bison
No
strange sparrow
Is the a difference from the damage from hipfire charge damage and ads?
I dont think so
gusty bison
But ads the helbore
strange sparrow
It’s technically the same
gusty bison
It helps a lot with accuracy
dusty sluice
But ads the helbore
I use my mk1 mostly in hipfire
gusty bison
Yea the helbores dramatically improve in performance when adsed
dusty sluice
Unless I need to shoot smth at long range
idle swallow
As if you can see the iron sight
avg helbore ADS past 10 meters experience
dusty sluice
Mostly cos you cant reliably hit heads outside of 8m
Also what’s the cleave on the shots?
strange sparrow
Also what’s the cleave on the shots?
2
gusty bison
Also what’s the cleave on the shots?
It can cleave through 1 regular shooter
But cant cleave elites
dusty sluice
But cant cleave elites
Poxes?
gusty bison
1 pox iirc
dusty sluice
Ah
strange sparrow
Then again no gun is
torn root
he doesnt know
gusty bison
I guess u can use the lawbringer
dusty sluice
Like its not a horde clear gun
Still fun to spam into hordes
strange sparrow
Just spam uncharged shot into hordes with mk2
gusty bison
Just spam uncharged shot into hordes with mk2
Tbf you are better off just using the bayo here
XD
Steb steb steb steb steb
Nah u run outta ammo
U can shoot through a horde to deal with elite groups with KB
But if ur using KB to clear hordes ur gonna run dry
wintry bay
i got one lads, played with a vet in t4 who was using the hazard hunter frame and instead of GG "Elites Killed" ""12 ""21 ""30.
dusty sluice
i got one lads, played with a vet in t4 who was using the hazard hunter frame an...
Never heard of that frame
wintry bay
its the obnoxiously green one for doing 500 extra modifiers
shadow aurora
One of the hardest ones to get in the game
wintry bay
eeeeeeh
dusty sluice
its the obnoxiously green one for doing 500 extra modifiers
Oh that
shadow aurora
One of not THE hardest
torn root
bro the amount of times this damn game crashes when extracting is bloody abysmal
but to ask for a working game is to much in modern day
dusty sluice
One of not THE hardest
Deveopler frame :
shadow aurora
You cant obtain that one through game it doesn't count
dusty sluice
Or the book club ones
dusty sluice
You cant obtain that one through game it doesn't count
Fair
shadow aurora
Or the book club ones
The what?
dusty sluice
The what?
There was smth with the #40k-book-club channel a while ago I believe
This is what it looks like (not my sc)
shadow aurora
Cool I didn't know
wintry bay
This is what it looks like (not my sc)
that you picked ogryn for it
shadow aurora
There picture books
wintry bay
using the books like extra armor cause he sees zealot with some scriptures on him
dusty sluice
using the books like extra armor cause he sees zealot with some scriptures on hi...
Lmao
gusty bison
Im saying if ur literally using KB for every horde
Then ur definitely taking more than ur lion share for ammo
(And also making ur allies miserable)
No one likes a KB horde spammer
knotty hill
Does the mesc cheese still work?
jaunty sphinx
so is shock trooper actually worth taking on a laspistol build? im putting one together rn and im at the "squeezing as many points as I can" stage of build crafting
gusty bison
so is shock trooper actually worth taking on a laspistol build? im putting one t...
Nice to have but not needed
gusty bison
I was just thinking about it for more infernus crits
Infernus is...
Not great?
Its not horrifically bad on the laspistol but its not one of the better options
jaunty sphinx
I see
kraks or frags btw? ive been running plasma until now so ive been running frags but kraks seem like a good option to deal with bosses that I dont get w the laspistol
lofty lintel
kraks or frags btw? ive been running plasma until now so ive been running frags ...
Whats your build
lofty lintel
I was just thinking about it for more infernus crits
Not worth it
Infernus dps increase is abysmal
jaunty sphinx
ty
lofty lintel
But i mean you set the enemies on fire it looks cool
Its one of the better options for laspistols so
For grenades id have to know what melee and gun youre using
lofty lintel
I recommend kraks
jaunty sphinx
thanks!
lofty lintel
Ofc
jaunty sphinx
I was thinking that too but I wanted vet chats opinion
lofty lintel
It covers your problem with bulwarks especially
jaunty sphinx
since I havent played vet in like a month
jaunty sphinx
target down or redirect fire for focus target btw? ive got a point for one of em
lofty lintel
Whichever one increases dmg by 1.5% after stack spent
For you and team
That one is nice
I usually use stamina replenish subnode for builds with deadshot
jaunty sphinx
ty
ye me too
okay I think im gonna try this talent tree out now, thanks!
it saddens me that plasma just aint for me but c'est la vie
dusk spruce
running with this pt, but wanting to switch it out, what would you suggest? (got this from limited shop thingy) i switched the perks to flak/unyielding pt
lofty lintel
Well thats a god roll
Helbore 3 likes flak/maniac/unyielding and even cara id say
Go in the psykhanium and look for breakpoints youd like to hit
But the rule of thumb would be those 3 perks
Dont change the blessings
jaunty sphinx
hey mark III is the good power sword right
ill see if this thing doesnt get bricked when I have an abundance of plasteel again
jaunty sphinx
I just spent mine on an evis for my zealot
umbral scaffold
I have like 30k
umbral scaffold
30k plasteel and 15k diamantine
unless I just have good rolls???
I barely ever run out of materials
orchid musk
I think it depends on luck, how many classes you play, and your particularity on how “perfect” your gear is.
gaunt delta
Next you’re gonna tell us you don’t check Brunt’s store every hour… pull the other one it’s got bells on
orchid musk
I tend to stay plasteel broke too.
odd sparrow
ill see if this thing doesnt get bricked when I have an abundance of plasteel ag...
Mk 6 is the better power sword. Because with Power cycler 4 + brutal momentum, you can combo a crusher to death.
3 will do mostly the same other than that
The other main differences between the 2 are that the mk 6 has lower stamina cost when blocking, lower speed when charging up thr sword but can be negated by slide. And the aforementioned crusher kill combo
jaunty sphinx
ty very much! I havent used the power sword since before the launch nerf cause I ended up liking the devils claw more
orchid musk
I adore P swords. So much fun cutting an entire wave in half. Literally.
jaunty sphinx
I love this bug its so funny with the small weapons
slender grail
Is it wrong of me to only use weapons that my table top minis have?
Is that too much RP
jaunty sphinx
simply buy new weapons from a bits seller to get more wargear options
slender grail
No I have access to good gear but I use catachans on table top. So I only allow my game chara to use auto gun an chain sword
jaunty sphinx
yeah I hope we get some soon too, glad the combat blade and devils claw are good options in this game tho
slender grail
Just a guard fanatic. Collected for 16 years and pretty much what I live and breath
tacit solar
i think its ridiculous that we can get 300 gear from brunt the lowest should be 340 at least
ebon umbra
but my 20% thermal resist plasma
tacit solar
but my 20% thermal resist plasma
tacit solar
its alright becuase that stat doesnt mean anything on shredders but still
why is there a meaningless stat on a weapon?
spice wadi
fatshark
merry oak
should i buy these off melk today?
celest vine
shotgun yes if you have the spare coin
knotty hill
Does the mesc cheese still work?
haughty pond
wait wrong chat
umbral scaffold
it’s over…
umbral scaffold
Wtf is that gun ew
deft ivy
what do with this knife for weapon swap build? thx 🙂
late anvil
I could... but should I?
lofty lintel
I dont like how waist and above is armored and waist below is just pants and boots
jaunty sphinx
thats how the guard models always have been until the new cadians
sudden dome
just use the wife beater and prison pants
quasi jetty
Mine looks like this.
jaunty swift
umbral scaffold
Can someone share with me the new bundles
bitter turtle
deadshot worth it too? it's the big thing im debating on rn
You basically hipfire until you need crits and ads when you do for dead shot laspistol
idle swallow
does infernus do enough damage to be worth on a laspisol or nah
fierce steeple
does infernus do enough damage to be worth on a laspisol or nah
yes
idle swallow
this is what im lookin at, either infernus to replace between the eyes or more crit chance over carapace
ebon umbra
i like the 7 for the heavy1 horizontal
vivid bolt
this is what im lookin at, either infernus to replace between the eyes or more c...
Infernus
Mk4 is the best cuz moveset is horizontal
dusty sluice
is the mk vii headhunter any good?
ebon umbra
Mk4 is the best cuz moveset is horizontal
u mean the light heavy combo?
ebon umbra
IV and VII have almost an identical moveset. they both start off with diagonals for the lights. the 4 heavy starts off with an overhead into a horizontal while the 7 is inverse. the 1 has horizontal heavies only
i think it just depends on how you want to open and why you have the variant you chose
vivid bolt
yea the opening overhead is very ideal
ebon umbra
definitely, especially for crushers
strange grove
is the mk vii headhunter any good?
Yes. With some marksman focus stacks you can 1 tap anything in the head save the biggest of the big bois
dusty sluice
Yes. With some marksman focus stacks you can 1 tap anything in the head save t...
perks and blessings?
iv'e only ever used the mk3 on zealot
white reef
Can chainsword deal with hordes?
jolly hemlock
which of the dclaws was good for the horde clear?
muted knot
Mk1 I think
fiery kraken
long range assassin vs camouflage?
i feel like its too hard to get to 15 stacks, with camouflage it would be a lot easier to get to 10 stacks for rend when you are preparing to take down someone
mortal shore
So for a mk13g you go Savage Sweep & Rampage blessings, and... Flak + What for Perks? Unarmored? Maniacs?
knotty hill
Whats the best infantry lasgun?
mortal shore
1a I think?
knotty hill
Alright, thank you
knotty hill
Got it
grand lark
long range assassin vs camouflage?
i feel like its too hard to get to 15 stacks,...
I always do camo personally yeah
torn root
bruh like why does it have to feel so shitty to grind t4 blessings for 1 weapon
tiny summit
long range assassin vs camouflage?
i feel like its too hard to get to 15 stacks,...
I question why go for the MF rend when the middle tree rend is accessible.
orchid musk
Embrace T3 and feel blessed for T4.
wooden lotus
^
fierce steeple
all these cool scion skins and we get some mid russki knock off skins tsk tsk tsk
serene bough
The only MF perk I consider is the one where standing still builds stacks
tiny summit
I take camo and the toughness regen bonus. I'm clicking heads already with ET and CK. I want more
untold mulch
all these cool scion skins and we get some mid russki knock off skins tsk tsk ts...
I love the game making me waste disk space on skins that emperor knows when are unlocked
tiny summit
10% rending at only 10+ stacks when 10% rending on its own is in the middle tree and accessible? No thanks. 15 stacks vs free stacks whenever I find a fire position? Yea I'll go with consistent stacks.
sharp ember
what are your guys weapon of choice for marksman focus anyway
tiny summit
Lasguns
Helbore mk1 my favorite. MG4 I'm trying to farm for a good one. Works with my 1a
untold mulch
10% rending at only 10+ stacks when 10% rending on its own is in the middle tree...
Focus rending is so weird
if it per stack a %?
but for some reason is only on max stacks
tiny summit
I think MF could get a buff. 1% reload per stack is weird. Woo 10% reload at 10 stacks when a 2nd talent option can be 30% reload off elites/specials which are everywhere. And the dmg can be nice but I want more.
untold mulch
I still stand that Marksman Focus was poorly thought of
Feels like they gave a strong initial buff, and then worked backwards to balance it
tiny summit
I think it's numbers and nodes are off. The keystone itself works.
But also can come back to maybe we just have so much overtuned stuff in a game of constant balance flux.
gritty dock
I have a question: is stability important in shotguns?
Has anyone used it and can comment on stability? It's the Kantrael Mk IX Combat Shotgun.
white reef
Bruh, why plasma gun use ammo so quickly
tiny summit
I think the tag keystone was poorly thought out. Free tag that gives amp dmg, toughness, stamina of varying amounts and can just keep a +12% dmg to the team as long as something tagged dies.
tiny summit
I have a question: is stability important in shotguns?
Has anyone used it and ca...
I wouldn't say so. All depends on how well you can adjust you aim. They can kick and if you're trying to fire as fast as possible, it can throw some people off.
Now ogryn ripper gun stability is another thing
white reef
Like each shot eats up 3-10 ammo
tiny summit
Like each shot eats up 3-10 ammo
Tap fire. With how the game is right now you should barely be charging
Also why shouldn't it? It has like infinite cleave
dusty sluice
if hadron doesn't fuck me over is this ok?
terse idol
all these cool scion skins and we get some mid russki knock off skins tsk tsk ts...
Its the winter skins smhhh
Folks were waiting for em too
sudden dome
Ivan is ready to fight the Capitalist Chaos insurgents.
Does that mean they just give all their stuff to rogue traders that come by because theyre agents of the emperor? I can get behind that
white reef
Tap fire. With how the game is right now you should barely be charging
Emmm, so tap fire eat less ammo than charged attack?
rose wedge
if hadron doesn't fuck me over is this ok?
stats are nice but looks like you'll need to swap out the perk and blessing
gritty dock
if hadron doesn't fuck me over is this ok?
There is little chance of being okay here because you have to get 2 out of 2 good things. But you can always try.
sudden dome
probably going to get a nice tier 4 if you havent already farmed those so theres atleast some upside
tiny summit
Emmm, so tap fire eat less ammo than charged attack?
Not many things are gonna need charged shots. Tap costs the least ammo and most things are gonna die within 2 shots
gritty dock
if hadron doesn't fuck me over is this ok?
Ammunition for critical shots will be free. So ammunition is not the most important thing here.
Building a critical firing weapon is more important.
tiny summit
if hadron doesn't fuck me over is this ok?
Stats are nice. But you're praying to hadron for 2 good upgrades.
terse idol
Yeah
white reef
Oh I see, but is it useful when upgrading? Currently lv19, using Columnus Mk V for before
terse idol
Groaners blow, and you need different blessings, sprinkles iss right
terse idol
Oh I see, but is it useful when upgrading? Currently lv19, using Columnus Mk V f...
I wouldn't upgrade any weapons until you're lvl 30
Imoo
tiny summit
Yea don't upgrade anything before 30
Better to save mats for weapons you'll actually keep
white reef
Yup, I mean for a weapon that doesn’t have any upgrade for builds
The auto gun serves me well, but not sure for plasma gun
terse idol
Hmm
tiny summit
Auto guns do just be working. But no seriously a good plasma is nice to have when maxed. Plasma is plasma. Kinda just works as long as you're fine using melee to conserve some ammo
Plasma just kinda hurts shooting single rifleman as opposed to autoguns and lasguns
ebon umbra
don't shoot reg shooters if you can help it. you won't hurt too bad for ammo if you dont miss
plasma feels v stat intensive.
at a certain point tho the ammo stat can be ignored.
dusty sluice
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046912126746374274/1189368060977631383/3...
would surgical be better than hh?
gusty bison
would surgical be better than hh?
On a vraks 7? yes
dusty sluice
On a vraks 7? yes
ty
terse idol
at a certain point tho the ammo stat can be ignored.
You waant a balance of everything yeah
I wouldn't dump ammo doe, but you do need 80TR and 80dmg and close to 80 SP
ebon umbra
i settle for around 70% ammo
"dumping ammo"
70%
ideally i'd have 80 dmg and 80 stopping power i swear it reduced longshot variability by like a few meters
but the real reason is that having below 80 damage and 80 stopping power makes me feel like my big gun isnt big enough
and i am already compensating
terse idol
My pguns are always lower on SP 🥹
But if you just build unarmoured maniac it works out
ebon umbra
stopping power is a cool name for a stat for this weapon tho
completely irrational
at this point i am just in a decadent downward spiral with my dockets
i feel like im missing a lot of shotgunner 1 taps without flak tho.
i want that juicy 12x shotgunner lineup on the first shot
killing dreg gunners with a 1 tap in the head is hot tho
tiny summit
at this point i am just in a decadent downward spiral with my dockets
Trying to get my 80 dmg/stopping power helbore mk1 that doesn't get bricked by Hadron. How much money Hadron? How much do I have to spend for my perfect helbore!?
terse idol
I gotta check
ebon umbra
Trying to get my 80 dmg/stopping power helbore mk1 that doesn't get bricked by H...
this guy gets it
i bodyshot bcuz im a bitch
i try to hit center mass on dreg gunners anyways. this kinda feels harder than headshotting tho
tiny summit
I keep saying to myself I want to save for the fancy expensive cosmetics but...the weapon gacha calls to me
ebon umbra
i got upset that i was seeing locked items so i just impulsively bought out the whole free cosmetic shop
set me back like 300 rolls
near sable
ebon umbra
god i wish i wasnt addicted to the gacha
i saw a psyker the other day with a 550 staff and a 550 dueling sword
tiny summit
god i wish i wasnt addicted to the gacha
I play 5 anime gachas and this game. My brain is rotted
ebon umbra
may the emperor have mercy on us all
https://tenor.com/view/killing-again-krombopulos-michael-rick-gif-13172744 me when 83k docket maelstrom
terse idol
oh new cosmetic
Next shop trust truust
I was already kinda expecting these skins b/c of winter
limber egret
im also hoping if they are gonna be adding a scion skin i would like the hotshot lasgun/hellgun to be added with it
limber egret
would be a letdown if they dont
terse idol
But where is the ogryn skin for winter 🥹
terse idol
Hm.. I guess 🥹
granite ivy
im also hoping if they are gonna be adding a scion skin i would like the hotshot...
I need a hellgun so bad
I want to walk around with a big backpack and just go dreg gunner mode when I see anything
fiery kraken
I question why go for the MF rend when the middle tree rend is accessible.
which one is that, do they stack?
tiny summit
which one is that, do they stack?
It's in the middle tree like above the keystone.
fiery kraken
do they stack?
granite ivy
yeah it doesnt feel good does it
I WANT TO FIGHT MY WEAPON TO KEEP IT KILLING
terse idol
I don't know if they'll even do a backpack... what if the recon sank so the hellgun could swim
tiny summit
do they stack?
I would assume so. It's the middle one
terse idol
Killed the recon, and then hellgun is the defacto auto lasgun
fiery kraken
thats a lot of points needed to get there tho
tiny summit
It is but you can make it while at least having camouflage on MF
granite ivy
I want a "heavy machine gun" type FPS gun for vet !
Me too tbh, I just wanna lockdown a chokepoint laughing like I'm skaven
thick rose
im twice the man a dreg gunner is, why can't I do that
tiny summit
thats a lot of points needed to get there tho
serene bough
I've come to appreciate marksman focus a little
tiny summit
I like it
serene bough
At least I like the idea that landing headshots gives buffs
fiery kraken
what gun do you use with MF?
serene bough
Mg4 infantry las
ebon umbra
why stamina regen over toughness dmg reduction?
tiny summit
I just think some numbers and 2 of the nodes could be better
Infantry las or helbores. Currently helbore mk1 is fave
serene bough
Stamina regen is great
tiny summit
why stamina regen over toughness dmg reduction?
Also pathing
tiny summit
I don't run the rending in the middle tree so my actual build has the elite dmg and the toughness reduction
copper barn
Lasgun my beloved 
tiny summit
Just wanted to show getting the 10% rending is possible with MF.
10% rending at only 10+ stacks is dumb
ebon umbra
i hate to be a ball burster. i love superiority complex but i feel like that and the las ammo talent should be switched in tree position
but i dont want a nerf so 
tiny summit
I like my shooting
Helbore mk1 with shock trooper? Essentially a psyker on the ammo needs totem pole
ebon umbra
god i love las weapon players
they are so ammo efficient
and having someone who can just go to town on every shooter is so nice
tiny summit
Though can still get comp urge with this layout. Just instead of rending
ebon umbra
i am rifle butting shooters with my plasma
umbral scaffold
quick swap to melee
ebon umbra
i just hard focus elites and hotswap into an instant parry on stragglers
i got weapon swap bound to spacebar
umbral scaffold
you are fucking insane
umbral scaffold
what is your jump key
ebon umbra
alt
umbral scaffold
why????
umbral scaffold
do you have small hands
copper barn
Absolute madman
ebon umbra
LOL
umbral scaffold
i can barely reach alt with my thumb
ebon umbra
i use my pinky
tiny summit
Is Q or scroll not good enough for swap!?
umbral scaffold
you are actually insane
ebon umbra
i dont like taking my hands off wasd
low oar
Is Q or scroll not good enough for swap!?
I use a rock band foot pedal to swap weapons
tiny summit
I mapped space for only dodge and alt is jump
umbral scaffold
the only weird binds i have are T and Y as yes and no respectively
and mouse 5 as for the emperor
ebon umbra
i would use mouse but it is a little slower bcuz i have to move my finger. im not shooting while sliding so i have crouch on the scroll wheel
tiny summit
I've debated on buying a foot pedal for random binds
ebon umbra
LOL
umbral scaffold
smashes foot into the ground
ebon umbra
i thought of this too recently tbh
umbral scaffold
"NEED AMMO"
ebon umbra
my tag is shift
ebon umbra
yes
umbral scaffold
you need to be put in a psychiatric ward
tiny summit
ebon umbra
i am a psyker vet
tiny summit
But does he do center ui elements?
ebon umbra
m5
umbral scaffold
its so over
tiny summit
That is the true psychopath moment
umbral scaffold
i changed none of the binds at all
terse idol
Where I needed my dodge not to be space bar
low oar
tagging the 4 bulwarks rushing you
I spam tag on a group of elites to alert that it's a pack and not a single tbh
umbral scaffold
i have jump and dodge on space
ebon umbra
i have volley fire timer center screen
tiny summit
There's heresy here
dusty sluice
anyone got suggestions for a vraks mk7 build?
terse idol
i have jump and dodge on space
Its just messy
tiny summit
Another has fell to chaos
umbral scaffold
most people i see including my friends spam dodge too fast
low oar
There's heresy here
I could always show my mess of a UI
ebon umbra
i need to clean up my hud tho.
north bay
15x Scab Maulers killed.
terse idol
That will fuck up your dodge something fierce
umbral scaffold
they dont know how to manage their dodges and i see them constantly bhopping
i can 1v1 crushers using ogryn shield lol
ebon umbra
15x Scab Maulers killed.
the keybinds are working
i have dodge to ctrl
pinky gaming
umbral scaffold
my friends do it all the time
they get rushed by a couple maulers or ragers and instead of backing up calmly they spam space bar
tiny summit
I could always show my mess of a UI
My heart can't take anymore but I am curious
umbral scaffold
and i see them jumping back
north bay
the keybinds are working
While i'm impressed by the Nuke-worthy killstreak, you having your controls that way is still something heretical as fuck.
tiny summit
15x Scab Maulers killed.
Cleaner but I do like seeing the lagging killfeed
terse idol
north bay
But if it works for you, i suppose.
terse idol
That UI is fiine
serene bough
No use volley fire
terse idol
Center UI
granite ivy
they get rushed by a couple maulers or ragers and instead of backing up calmly t...
Me watching a teammate try to block 4 mauler overheads at the same time
terse idol
I wouldn't even be mad if you put the health in the center
tiny summit
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2288455508589620919/DBFBD4C6EB6A7984A...
Fine-ish. Still not as messy as health bars and buffs with those things
low oar
I used to have the debug dodge on because I wanted to check my dodge timer
low oar
Me watching a teammate try to block 4 mauler overheads at the same time
Just plant shield
tiny summit
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2288455508589620919/DBFBD4C6EB6A7984A...
Actually no I take it back. You have default UI and the center elements. Redundant heresy
muted knot
Whats the meta devil's claw perks/blessings
low oar
I still use the default out of habit tbh but I've been trying to use center more often
umbral scaffold
i have default ui but use numeric ui for stuff like dodges
i usually play without hud anyways so i dont give a shit
tiny summit
i have default ui but use numeric ui for stuff like dodges
I'm all about that feel and vibes
tiny summit
i usually play without hud anyways so i dont give a shit
Should have an expert variant. No HUD, friendly fire on.
ebon umbra
Whats the meta devil's claw perks/blessings
savage sweep, rampage, maniac & flak (or unyielding for monstro but meh) i prefer the VII->IV->I but all have different purposes and i'd find one u like
low oar
I wouldn't even be mad if you put the health in the center
Tbh, I don't really actively manage health or care about the percentage since 1 health is exactly the same gameplay wise as 100 health. Toughness percentage actually matters so a meter for it is way more useful
ebon umbra
ooo i need to change toughness to a percent instead of eyeballing it
ebon umbra
i'd like both just so i can complain when i see an ogryn with 300 toughness and 400hp
umbral scaffold
no tagging
ebon umbra
low oar
When melee friendly fire
ebon umbra
i want a hudless modifier tbh
umbral scaffold
i still need to edit my curios so ill probably add extra toughness on top as well
tiny summit
i still need to edit my curios so ill probably add extra toughness on top as wel...
Been running 3x toughness on my vets but I do want that lil bit of stam again
umbral scaffold
i have like no stamina
dusty sluice
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9af548b4-ce87-4cda-96d4-3f13b1ba4cb7/vet-4-headhunter Changes?
umbral scaffold
i should probably change it
low oar
Stamina is actually useless on zealot and ogryn since they intrinsically have more
umbral scaffold
its okay if youre using slab shield but otherwise not really
granite ivy
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9af548b4-ce87-4cda-96d4-3f13b1ba4cb7/ve...
I'm still mad that the Kriegerhelm from the penances isn't the one we see on this image
tiny summit
Call yourself a headhunter and not take ET?
umbral scaffold
since obviously, blocking takes up stamina
then again you can always throw down the slab shield special
sharp ember
i even take E.T. on my brauto builds
umbral scaffold
and become literally fucking impervious to damage
sharp ember
i'm bound to hit a couple heads spraying into a crowd of shooters