veteran-class

[eternal sable]

its the god class in that

ogryn + zealot optimal comp

[flat furnace]

vet with VoC is good too

at least one

btw how did you send your skill tree? I wanna show you minew

[compact bear]

i whas thinking to actualy be a ZEALOT chainsaw build with clesing corruption aura

[wanton dawn]

I run this #1158835044006232215 message

[rain steppe]

I used https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

[compact bear]

but i just have to hope to find people to do it with ones i unlocked hardmode since i never beated the twins in normal mode yet

[wanton dawn]

Got a few more hm win today with it. Dropped wound for thoughness

I posted a video of it earlier

Well, i kinda selected the smoothest run

[flat furnace]

hey, we could get two more soldiers and try hard more but in T2

[rain steppe]

Seems pretty good, shame I don't have a decent plasma pistol

[wanton dawn]

Imo vet is not greatest at putting dmg on boss, but it bring a fuckton of utility and indirect dmg with mark

Also good at picking elite and special

[flat furnace]

Now that you mention it, I should get a new plasgun
or maybe that C5 or whatever that rifle is, it looks OP

[flat furnace]

you're right, I should start doing that

[tall torrent]

vet is the safety net in karnak HM

[wanton dawn]

Also: take improved box

[compact bear]

that what i mostly focus on as a helbore as well just use mark to find all the elites and lazer them down

[wanton dawn]

Here if you wanna see an example. Again, not representative it was cleaner than usual: #veteran-class message

[flat furnace]

OK now I agree
I need one of those

[merry oak]

i ussually go for the spotting keystone its literally free damage

[flat furnace]

"close range dmg" what does that mean? wha enters in that category? being close to the enemy while shooting the gun gives it more damage?

[midnight mortar]

Close range is currently defined as anything at or within 8 meters.

Which is also the range for melee weapons.

[wanton dawn]

Woah, my sword has 8 meters range ?

[midnight mortar]

It may not seem like it, but yes.

[wanton dawn]

Guess i studied the blade

[flat furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-surprised-shocked-wow-wauw-speechless-gif-24730028

holy emperor really?

my god

and, practically, let's say
dumdum would be useful in a combat scenario?

[midnight mortar]

Depends on the weapon.

[flat furnace]

I usually play at a distance, my main loadout consists of that
but for the twins I've been forced to change my playstyle if I want to beat them

[pure patrol]

highly effective on something like the columnus
on AG you probably want fire frenzy

[flat furnace]

Columnus Mk V for instance?

[wanton dawn]

Vet ranged game on twins is kinda barf

Ogryns does it better

[pure patrol]

i ended up using plasma to switch on specials

melee for dps

[flat furnace]

yeah I guessed as much, the thing is, I don't play ogryn

[wanton dawn]

Not saying vet is bad. Just lowish boss dps

[tardy plaza]

nah

[tall torrent]

dum dum is "bugged" and boosts ur dmg for all ranges
also takes 7 shots to get all 5 stacks, don't ask why

[midnight mortar]

Then it's usually decent. The Columnus doesn't necessarily need blessings to perform optimally.

[wanton dawn]

Ay

[flat furnace]

ma gawd

[tardy plaza]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/221510568584937482/1185011075373076572/image.png?ex=658e0e90&is=657b9990&hm=c862e12d19fc7e7f9f97e60fb81a76aec6bafe19655cd0f19a0e7dd7517e571c&

Stealth 30% damage boost + deadshot

get behind boss

erase

[midnight mortar]

Haha, an infiltrate vet on Twins.

Should've known.

[wanton dawn]

I mean

[flat furnace]

I saw the loadout of this gamer and he told me that it performs very good in the fight

Now I'm grasping at every advantage I ca take for the fight

[tardy plaza]

yes

correct

[wanton dawn]

Does not change that ogryns does it better

[midnight mortar]

^

[flat furnace]

oh lord

[tardy plaza]

Ogryn does literally anything better

[midnight mortar]

On hardmode infiltrate vets just help their teammates die faster.

[tall torrent]

for vet, going into karnak HM, imo ur best guns are helbore 1/2, plasma and columnus mk5

[tardy plaza]

Maybe bad ones do

Sure

[flat furnace]

good thing I already have a plamsa, that perhaps needs changing for one better

[wanton dawn]

Also no need to insigna me i litterally posted a video of it earlier. With scoreboard at the end

And i fixed boss dmg on it

[tall torrent]

helbore gets to do ok dmg to both bosses without swapping weapons, can bully ragers
columnus mk5 has very high dps and can melt rinda shield in less than 2 seconds from full
plasma can cleave the melee elites

[compact bear]

i dont have plasma but i have like 8 difrent helbore guns lol

[tardy plaza]

It just gets old when vets running the easiest build in the game mock infiltrate

[midnight mortar]

As long as they aren't mk3s, you're fine.

[flat furnace]

I'll continue this chat later, sorry guys
gotta go to the gym

[tall torrent]

melee wise
combat axe 2
power sword 6
DC sword (any, 4 or 7 preferred)
shovel

[tardy plaza]

After I switched from shout to infil I never looked back

[compact bear]

i got 4 MK3 and 4 MK1

[tall torrent]

mk1 and mk2 are the general use picks
mk3 is a special case

[compact bear]

i hate MK2

[midnight mortar]

I only ever ran exec stance until Twins forced me into shout, to be clear.

[midnight mortar]

Why?

[compact bear]

the stabing is just not strong as it is on the MK1 and the looks of it 3 reason too i hate its low damage

[tall torrent]

mk1 and mk2 have the same stab moveset & dmg

[midnight mortar]

Both the mk1 and mk2 bayonets are the same though.

[tall torrent]

identical in that area

[tardy plaza]

Shout is definitely the easier option for twins but I was just countering the point made that vet ranged wasn't good for it

[compact bear]

no the MK2 got weaker stab the only thing is it can stab true armor units

[tall torrent]

and dmg is not low, just more specific in build

[compact bear]

but i fidn that useless

[tall torrent]

it doesn't tho

[tardy plaza]

It is, but your average plas/shouter is mainly good for plas'ing the elites and specials and power swording the bosses

[midnight mortar]

True armor units? Weaker stab?

[wanton dawn]

I said it was kinda barf and i stand by what i said

[tall torrent]

stab dmg is the same between mk1 and mk2

[tardy plaza]

Not with the right builds

[tall torrent]

on same dmg rolls anyway

[midnight mortar]

The mk1 and mk2 use the same bayonet damage profile.

[compact bear]

as i have try and test it is not the same

i dont i just dont like the MK2

[tall torrent]

different dmg rolls? maybe?

[compact bear]

i rather us the MK3 if i really have to chose between MK2 and MK3

[tall torrent]

and mk2 can still reach 1 shot breakpoints on both gunners

fairly easily too

[compact bear]

but MK1 is my general pick of everything i do like the MK3 if i just want to have more of a meele build going and just use the MK3 to blast something

[midnight mortar]

But the mk3's bayonet is awful for melee.

[hearty frigate]

Why are major enemies always very big and tall

[compact bear]

like i use the MK3 more like a real sniper really

but for real i dont want to even use MK2

[wanton dawn]

Not gonna argue, i dont care that much tbh and i dont have opinion on infiltrate to begin with

[pure patrol]

mk2 has similar pen/damage breakpoints on full charge as the mk1 with the same bayonet

i have done entire matches with just it in my hands, great weapon

[wanton dawn]

I have done entire match with mk1 without shooting

[tall torrent]

mk3 is basically the 4th variant of infantry lasgun in terms of playstyle

[wanton dawn]

Too bad bayonet is probably crap on twins

[compact bear]

like i say

for me MK2 feels weak as fuck

i dont like it

[pure patrol]

you can hit one shot bayonet breakpoints on tons. and it still benefits from executioners stance bonuses - you can one/two shot many elites with headshot bayonet hits. its great

[midnight mortar]

Ah yes, the one where I fight ghost input buffering bugs on charged to uncharged shot transitions every three shots.

[tall torrent]

MG IV - low dmg, high RoF, high sustained fire, high ADS move speed
MG 1a - balanced middle option
MG XII - heavy hitter DMR
Helbore 3 - anti-armor sniper

[tall torrent]

it's actually not that bad

u can shoot rinda's shield and stab rodin's shield

[pure patrol]

dont forget bayonet has enough impact to stagger maulers and ragers

that by itself is massive

[celest vine]

MG1A is an M16 set to semi auto

[wanton dawn]

The thing is, bayonet is weak on carapace and rather weak on flak

[tall torrent]

are the twins flak?

[wanton dawn]

And twins fight is scab faction

[pure patrol]

twins body is flak

carapace head

[celest vine]

Theyre flak

[tall torrent]

ok so basically over-equipped maulers

[celest vine]

If you are attacking a karnack that close just use your melee

Bayonets will not help

[tall torrent]

u can stab shields tho, shields don't have that kind of armor property I think

[wanton dawn]

In any case, they are not that much good weakspot on twins fight with bayo

[pure patrol]

id have to go pull numbers but besides a few very specific melee weapons, bayonet will do more dps with a +flak, simply because it stabs so fast. it hits pretty much as fast as a knife with a much higher damage profile

[compact bear]

its eather the baronet or lazer since my shovel shure wont do anything against those guys lol

[celest vine]

If youre doing that boss fight you probably should have a build just to do that one mission

[tall torrent]

standard shovel with uncanny 4 max stack + take a swing 4

u can vibe check any armored enemy in the game

[compact bear]

i dont have that one and i out of materials anyway

[pure patrol]

standard shovel post base damage buff is a beast being slept on fr

[compact bear]

becouse i use them all to get a nice role new avicorator for my zealot lol

[wanton dawn]

I can handle most group of enemies at melee range with ps if that's a problem anyway

[tall torrent]

every shovel user I see is mk3 or mk7 but the standard issue actually cooks armor very well with more balanced movesets and safe stagger

[compact bear]

i only use the normal shovel

since my krieg shovel skin cant be used on the new ones

[wanton dawn]

Some patch ago you could no sweat handle groups of 30 ragers in melee

Might be possible today as well. Might try this weekend

[tall torrent]

that is the standard issue shovel

[pure patrol]

the new shovels are good secondaries for ranged vet, especially if you build impact. lets you deal with mixed hordes pretty efficently. standard is the go to for melee vet imo

but at that point

power sword exists

[tall torrent]

I'm running combat axe 2 + helbore 2, standard shovel + plasma, power sword 6 + revolver 2

[frank ether]

aight

chainaxe is auric maelstorm certified now

its good

[wanton dawn]

I cannot justify running anything else than ps at this point. I feel weaker with all other melee

[compact bear]

i dont like powersword anymore its not how it use to be and i dont like it anymore the chainsword just does the stuff better now and shovel lol

[pure patrol]

i run a mk2 tac axe quite often, overlooked heavy attack profile for brutal momentum, good assassin damage. very consistent overall.

[compact bear]

but i got block efficiency 20% stamina 1.5% and uncanny strike and limbsplitter

[wanton dawn]

I doubt i could do a quarter of the dumb psy challenge i put on myself with other weapons

Like the ogryn grand slam

10 crusher, 2 bulwark, 1 po

Good luck

[compact bear]

you know that the only weapons i dont want to even play anymore is axes i feel so useless against hords with it

[hearty frigate]

I don’t think about melee as an option when I play veteran

I see only boltgun

[pure patrol]

brutal momentum is just 100% necessary, unfortunately

[wanton dawn]

Axe needs to be crafted for horde

[pure patrol]

however with the right setup you cleave heads of every melee standard enemy, so

[frank ether]

guess who is the veteran player and who is ogy/zealot

[wanton dawn]

Deactivate team score. It is noise

[frank ether]

I like to see who hogs resources

[pure patrol]

christ that is so much damage taken, you guys actually won that map?

[hearty frigate]

Chainsword heavy attacks are a good counter from my experience

[hearty frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-tis-but-a-scratch-gif-12051667

[terse idol]

Simply still the PSword still isss meta

Feeling and like balance are... complex

[frank ether]

this was auric damnation maelstorm, with waves of dogs

[hearty frigate]

Oh my

[compact bear]

i dont think powersword is meta anymore as i feel the chainswords just do everything better now but that just me

[hearty frigate]

There was carnage

[terse idol]

Nothing has happened to make it not meta

Its still a meta weapooon

No nerfs

[compact bear]

it feels weaker way weaker then it use to be back in the days

[hearty frigate]

Powersword hasn’t been the same since release bc it used to have a duration for its charge, not a body limit

[terse idol]

The only thing Psword seemingly struggles in is, it's so blessing dependant

[wanton dawn]

Actually last ps change was ps6 buff

[frank ether]

I had a chainaxe iag loadout for it

[terse idol]

I msan

[frank ether]

actually rly good

dont sleep on chaxe

[terse idol]

It was so strong they had to add a blessing

[hearty frigate]

Back in release you could actually slice through an entire horde with one cleave

[compact bear]

and now chainswords are now buffed it just feels better to run that now

[terse idol]

Yes when the PS sword had infinite cleave

[hearty frigate]

But now it stops after 2-3 pox walkers, so it’s useless for the most part

[terse idol]

Yeah it was the strong

[hearty frigate]

Chainsword meanwhile is consistently high damage

[terse idol]

Its still strong now regardless

[frank ether]

powersword still has giga cleave

[pure patrol]

release powersword was the best melee weapon in the game, we all know that

[compact bear]

powersword whas nerf when they added the skill tree update so

[frank ether]

chainweapons cant compete with it in cleave

[terse idol]

It had infinite cleave that was toxic

Also

[compact bear]

even chainsword can cleave too

[terse idol]

It doesnt only cut through 3

[frank ether]

powersword is perfectly fine rn

[compact bear]

and i dont need to chage it

[terse idol]

That's a liiittle disingenuous

[pure patrol]

its in a good place, strong, but at least the other weapons compete with it for niche uses

[frank ether]

I assume you were one of the people who quit after PS nerf

[pure patrol]

which is what i think they want

[frank ether]

but I guarentee you its good

[hearty frigate]

In my experience, I charge, slice, and barely make a dent in a horde

[terse idol]

That just sounds like uh, I dunno what to say

[frank ether]

you just need right blessings for PS

[terse idol]

Yeah

[balmy flume]

P Sword Is now blessing dependent, but if that is met, it is very meta.
The charge stopping just means you have to click a few more times.
There is also a pattern to it.
Block-shove-charge-swing.

[hearty frigate]

Meanwhile if I use a chainsword I can atleast stun them a bit and give me a better chance and more time to work

[terse idol]

Its blessing reliant

[pure patrol]

PS has the pure power, but many other weapons have other, better uses, like impact stagger, no charge up while maintaining good power, stuff like that

[hearty frigate]

Or alternatively I use a boltgun

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[compact bear]

it just dus not feel the same no more i got power cycler tier 4 and supercharge tier 4 on it but i dont feel like its good anymore

[terse idol]

Look all im saying is its all fine to run what you like

[compact bear]

i just rather use chainsword and shovel now

[hearty frigate]

What do those do exactly?

[terse idol]

boltgun just isn't good still

[compact bear]

and i sure as hell not gona use MK VI powersword

[frank ether]

sure

[hearty frigate]

Mark6 💀

[wanton dawn]

I think i found the issue

[compact bear]

power cycler give 2 extra charges and

+4 stacks f brittleness on energised hits

[wanton dawn]

Mk6 is the better ps rn

[hearty frigate]

I love it regardless

[frank ether]

no point arguing over it

different builds have different needs

[hearty frigate]

That doesn’t sound very useful apart from fighting bosses

[compact bear]

but i only use the MK III powersword

[frank ether]

I exclusively run PS on sharpshooter helbore builds

and run chain weapons on melee vet

[wanton dawn]

Also better secondary blessing is no longer slaughterer

[hearty frigate]

I use a chainsword for my shooting build

Boltgun 💪

[wanton dawn]

Ppl will say bm. I prefer sunder myself

[compact bear]

i want to use a boltgun again but i need to get some blessings extracted and better roles for it

[hearty frigate]

I’m still using disposable bolters before I find one with god stats

Whatever the RNG gods give me in store with okay perks is what I run with until something better pops up

[compact bear]

i got one with cavalcade and shattering impact with flack armor perk and damage range elites

[hearty frigate]

Oooh that’s really good

[wanton dawn]

Bolter is definitely not what it used to be. It is arguably a different gun compared to patch 12

[hearty frigate]

I’m searching for something with 75+ in every stat bar

I will find the holy bolter 😔

[compact bear]

its difrent but same time i just like useing it time to time to feel like a sister of battle lol

[frank ether]

Its like a sniping gun now which is goofy ah

but it works

[hearty frigate]

I still use bolter on hordes and everything in between

[frank ether]

you are the reason I'm scared to hit quickplay 💀

[hearty frigate]

Good 🤪

[quasi socket]

holy zealoits breaking runs

[frank ether]

2 minutes in ''I need ammo, need ammo, ammo''

[wanton dawn]

I cant like a weapon which require left tree

Simple as that

[hearty frigate]

Nuh uh, I always have at least 50% ammo

[compact bear]

i play quickplay al lthe time

[hearty frigate]

Usually more

[hearty frigate]

Play with a boltgun maniac like me?

[compact bear]

well it deppens on my mood

[hearty frigate]

Price: all your ammo pickups

[frank ether]

If the keystone was good at least it could be salvageable

[compact bear]

sometimes i just a charging baronet stabing psycopath krieg

[wanton dawn]

Atm i only do boss until i get bored

[hearty frigate]

Result: everything dies in gore fireworks

[compact bear]

sometimes i just a commisar screaming out loud and sometimes i just like to be a CADIAN runing with a infantry las gun or boltor lol

[wanton dawn]

Ppl are getting better at twins in any case

[frank ether]

are they tho

[wanton dawn]

Or at least i am

[compact bear]

i not play the twins at all

[frank ether]

I'm tired

did like 30 hm attempts last night

[compact bear]

not gona try join randoms anymore on it as mostly i just see the loading screen 90% of the time becouse they kick me out

[frank ether]

Its literally easier to carry bad teammates in auric maelstorms than the hm twins

[wanton dawn]

Thats because twins hm are harder than auric mael

[frank ether]

Its also rly badly designed fight tbh

just a big donut arena

[terse idol]

That's fiine

[frank ether]

shitting out enemies everywherre

most vets/psykers I played with just sucked

[compact bear]

i play auric 4 times with some friends but i never done it with randoms

[frank ether]

and all the vets in hm were playing VoC

[mystic belfry]

I’m not going to do the hm just because ringing the bells is annoying

[wanton dawn]

I do think ogryn is the better class on it

[terse idol]

I'm just saying like, can't be saying x weapon bad, because I don't like it

I dunno Its just theory crafting stuff @compact bear
We gotta look at this kind of stuff from an objective standpoint

[frank ether]

ogryn/zealot is the ideal yes

2 ogy 2 zealot

if you feel adventerous you can even throw in a voc vet

psyker dont even try

[compact bear]

in your opinion for me some stuff are shit in my eyes and are bad in my opinion and some done hell

[frank ether]

not with a random team

[compact bear]

people use to talk bad stuff about SIENNA players

[barren cave]

do shredder nades count for the non bounce frag grenade penance

[pure patrol]

only 1 person needs to already have the bell unlock and you will all have a teleport to the twin fight. plus at that point you can just complete it on uprising if you want the bell unlock, then switch to damnation

[compact bear]

and i whas a sienna main lol

[wanton dawn]

Psyker is prob weakest on it

[vernal harbor]

Preach‼️

[frank ether]

crowd control is meaningless you want to burn everything asap

[terse idol]

That's okay but from an objective standpoint many of these weapons are still very good, the best even

[frank ether]

psykers who bring smite to hm

dont understand the assignment

they fail at planning stage

[terse idol]

Muthfukin columnus

[wanton dawn]

Anyway, i had 3-4 hm win today in pubs. It is not impossible at all

[compact bear]

and that fine i just dont feel like some are like autoguns i rarely even use those

[terse idol]

Hold on, smite would be okay when the maulers and ragers roll by no?

[tall torrent]

for sure

[compact bear]

only one i ever liked as a auto gun whas a MK VIII infantry autogun

[terse idol]

Or do you just sacrifice too much damage

[mystic belfry]

Run aoe bomb staff with the blessing that applies brittleness

[frank ether]

would be better to outright nuke them

[terse idol]

That's valid

[pliant spire]

Will this work on veteran?

[tall torrent]

u gotta kill them cuz smite will run out

[frank ether]

ragers especially melt to some focus fire

but sometimes

[terse idol]

Print screen my fren

[frank ether]

you get like 10 of them on you and you get cornered

[terse idol]

[tall torrent]

it's better to drop 2 tinkered frags and kill them asap rather than stun lock them

[frank ether]

there smite could help

but like

here is the issue

you're not winning

you're breaking even

the twin with plasma will keep spamming mines and shoot at you

[mystic belfry]

seriously trauma staff applying brittle works well

[frank ether]

buying time doesnt work

you gotta kill shit faster than they spawn

[terse idol]

Damn hardmode twins really feel like we planning for raid Night fr

[barren cave]

what blessings do you want on assault chainsword for vet

[compact bear]

looks god the critical strike is nice i got devastating strike and rampage on mine if i whas abled to change rampage i will have

[mystic belfry]

Smite is a problem because you can’t do damage with it

[frank ether]

yea I dont hate it

[mystic belfry]

Trauma staff can do some damage, cc, and also debuff. And you still have room for assail

[terse idol]

I like it, haven't played hardmode yet though lmaoo
This feels like FS is setting the stage for like raid mode bosses in the future

With wacky mechanics

[tall torrent]

crit dmg perk is bad
shred 2 is low lvl
replace those two imo

[pure patrol]

twins hm is 100% a damage race of 'do you guys have enough damage to clear all of this and fight bosses'

i ended up running full frag grenade build with all grenade buffs to clear out trash while the fire oggy killed the bosses

[tall torrent]

actually

no it's just bricked beyond repair

devastating strike is not good

[mystic belfry]

Nope

[tall torrent]

it's just bricked

harvest devastating strike and move on

[terse idol]

Crit damage crit chance sadge

[compact bear]

eh i like devastating strike really just for the cleave

[barren cave]

what are the best blessings for the assault chainsword

[mystic belfry]

There’s better cleave

[tall torrent]

it's just bad
savage sweep and wrath both way better

[pure patrol]

wrath is better and triggers off of regular hits

[compact bear]

can be but for me it works

[terse idol]

Why run a cleave blessing when you can just run a weapon with better cleave

And then build for damage

[pure patrol]

dev strike really need a massive buff for it to be competitive with the other cleave blessings

unfortunately

[mystic belfry]

I do choose just to not run chainsword ever, yeah

I don’t like it

[tall torrent]

chainsword's special basically is irrelevant unless u have bloodletter

but it needs rampage + wrath/savage sweep

[swift ingot]

I don’t understand, why am I enjoying this gun so much?

[pure patrol]

because AG mk1 is good

[atomic zephyr]

it just goes hard

[pure patrol]

all of the regular autoguns have been buffed into p good spots tbh
columnus for mag dumping
graia for middle
AG for still being able to tap fire heads

[terse idol]

Nice modifiers too

Woo

Oh holy shit, that's great

[swift ingot]

I started running this thing on my zealot for the twins but now I can’t put it down

[barren cave]

is there an updated list for the weapons and their blessings

[atomic zephyr]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/weapons

oops not that

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/weapon-blessing-traits

[barren cave]

thanks

[ebon umbra]

she said do u love me

i said im monke

[vernal harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-headphones-music-gif-14789865

[serene sage]

what

[quick moth]

They're all fantastic for Zealots, but kinda ass for Veteran imo. I'm also addicted to the revolver for vet though 🤷‍♂️

I run Columnus with my Zealot

[swift ingot]

Me on vet for the past 10 days

[serene sage]

uninstall full auto mod

and see if you still like it

[swift ingot]

Done it before, really nice even without the mod

[serene sage]

i mean long enough for RSI to kick in

[swift ingot]

I only hold the button down when hipfiring, when adsing it’s faster to tap fire

[left comet]

what gun should i use for make every shot count?

[serene sage]

Revolver Plasma Shotgun Bolter
pick your poison

[left comet]

sigh back to the grind

[valid bluff]

So for quickdraw revolver, Speed loader goes to Handcannon for sure, but any thoughts on the other change?

Sustained isn't bad for how low the mag is, though its far from ideal

[tall torrent]

sustained fire is bad

prob rather go trickshooter

[quick moth]

Replace sustained fire with trick shot

[tall torrent]

crucian roulette also alright ig

[deep fable]

what armor class do the twins have?

[barren cave]

is determined worth taking for vet

[midnight mortar]

Head is carapace, and the body is flak.

[low oar]

Twins confirmed to be just big ol maulers

[past haven]

IIRC the reason Sustained Fire is bad is because the game defines a Salvo as shooting as quickly as possible without stopping. If you hesitate for a moment before shooting the next shot, your Salvo is over and you lose the bonus

[valid bluff]

I just figured since this was the fan the hammer revolver, you would still end up seeing it come into play vs harder targets

And it + a more relevant perk than reload speed might be better than reload + one of crucian/trickshooter

[pliant spire]

What does trick shooter do? Faster reload after sqs kill?

[valid bluff]

Sustained precision hits give power

which i'm iffy on how consistent it is with this things recoil/spread

[low oar]

Huh. Everyone kept saying Rinda took more damage from ranged

Melee all the shields I guess

Especially Ronald McDonald

[pliant spire]

I think she does if you look at multiplayer, she is literally takes more ranged dmg

[hollow ibex]

achlys?

makes sense

[idle carbon]

...the shield counts as flak?

does the same apply to the standard assassination captain shield?

[hollow ibex]

btw what are you proccing burn with?

[idle carbon]

probably the ult

[hollow ibex]

oh ic

i never run right keystone on ogryn but maybe i should

[idle carbon]

even if the twins don't count as unyielding, burn still does decent damage?

[hollow ibex]

oh burn isn't the keystone 🤔

need to look at my build again

[unreal bone]

Bruh the OW2 shop is so dumb. 🤣

[tall torrent]

meta seems to be 2 ogryn + 1 zealot + zealot/veteran

that is true

[hollow ibex]

I still haven’t played the event yet

Should try soon

Been grinding weeklies

[tall torrent]

karnak HM is just suffering but it's pretty fun

[hollow ibex]

I just want the insignia

[hearty frigate]

Gather a bunch of vets and all use boltgun only?

[tall torrent]

this is the one fight where u need to specifically build team synergy

[hearty frigate]

Run difficulty 5 just for the lols

[tall torrent]

probably, as people figure out better strats

[hearty frigate]

One ogryn with a strong slap:

[tall torrent]

I did it with plasma gun and all grenade talents to kill the melee elites

[wheat violet]

wait so shields count as flak armor?

good to know then

carapace and flak bonus damage for the shovel

[tall torrent]

I suggest u play the fight urself and see if that works as good as u think

[wheat violet]

so gunlugger ftw again?

[tall torrent]

U need one for sustained high dps
And probably another Ogryn on taunt to control aggro

[hearty frigate]

One ogryn slaps and stuns big bad boss

Other three Ogryn beat them to death

[tall torrent]

Doesn’t work when their shields are up

[hearty frigate]

Well you just aren’t slapping hard enough if their shield is up

If you’re slapping correctly it’ll break the shield

Me smrt youz see

[tall torrent]

Just go play Karnak HM urself and see if it works as good as u think it does

[hearty frigate]

Sometimes I go on difficulty three as an Ogryn and I bully daemonhosts

[south garnet]

that's a staggering amount!

[tall torrent]

Plasma on headshot can stagger in like 2 shots I think

[hearty frigate]

Plasma used to be the worst gun in the game

Worst weapon* actually

[nova bane]

I've got a power sword with Power Cycler 3 and Brutal Momentum 3 and one modification left. Do I upgrade power cycler to 4 or replace Brutal Momentum with Wrath 4?

It does actually thanks

Only other option is replacing 25% Carapace with Maniac

Yeah I'm trying to build for twins hard mode

Rad, thanks

Good to know. I'm glad I asked here first then

My build is VoC melee with revolver

[tall torrent]

Power sword build is power cycler 4 + BM/sunder

[idle carbon]

the difference in PC3 to 4 isn't absolutely mandatory for the mk6 IMO, especially if what you need is boss killing power
the two horizontal lights are the important ones for horde clear, and even with PC4, you can still only get off the push stab + overhead combo since for some reason you lose power trying to block and get off a second stab

[midnight mortar]

It's actually remarkable looking at the # of hardmode twins attempts I've made and counting how many teams collapse within the first 45 seconds.

A real build filter this is.

I mean yeah, pretty much.

Even if no one dies, if no damage is being put out then you know.

On the plus side, this is the fastest method of docket farming I've encountered.

[idle carbon]

my second team had the first 10s down pat, we could deck both bosses and get to the next phase pretty quick
but the ads were what constantly killed us

[nova bane]

What's ads?

[idle carbon]

not exactly the best representative of a coop game lol
solo stuff is generall much different than group, you know that

[nova bane]

Oh. Like trash, or everything?

[idle carbon]

"additional spawns" or something akin to that, everything except the bosses pretty much

[real mantle]

It would be nice if we could get standard OD green camo for guns via Commissary

[nova bane]

Ohhh. Okay.

Should I lean into my power sword for my build on hard mode? I was gonna take more support talents

Also considering switching from revolver to plasma

[midnight mortar]

With Veteran in hardmode, your melee is more important.

And ranged is just for anti-ranged weakness shield on the melee twin.

[nova bane]

Ciagv?

[midnight mortar]

Columnus Infantry Autogun.

Mk 5.

[nova bane]

Still learning shorthand, thx

Use that to drain shield? I thought ranged was weak to shields

[midnight mortar]

The shield properties on the twins are different from the usual boss.

[idle carbon]

ranged twin's shield is weak to melee
melee twin's shield is weak to ranged

[tall torrent]

Rodin is weak to melee (3x dmg)

[peak pond]

what are the top perk rolls on curious for vet?

[tall torrent]

Columnus can shred rinda’s shield in under 2s

I’ve tried

[idle carbon]

chain weapons are great vs shields

[nova bane]

Maybe combat knife to drain shield, then plasma when it's down? Knife is my main weapon usually

Fair enough. I'm pretty good at surviving, but dodging like a maniac, my usual method, doesn't seem to work well with the mines

[marsh condor]

I'm a Zealot with the mindset of a Veteran.

[midnight mortar]

It was Deathspitter and Dumdum for the Columnus mk5 right?

[atomic zephyr]

what’s the difference between torso and center mass?

[marsh condor]

I have a Graia Infantry Autogun with Raking Fire and Dumdum

[atomic zephyr]

oh i see

[marsh condor]

Along with a sweepy Knife with Lacerate and Mercy Killer.

[idle carbon]

I find it funny how the twins have accurate modeling of the lower torso being unarmored, but the scab stalkers/shooters who have no armor there still count as flak armored

[marsh condor]

The Scab Stalkers have unarmored arms

[idle carbon]

the lower torso / center of mass specifically

I know parts are armored

[marsh condor]

Oh, dat

Yep.

They funny

Specifically around the torso, ya?

[idle carbon]

yup

[marsh condor]

Tried making a Veteran-inspired build for Zealot

Focusing on the gun and precision.

[sleek cairn]

didn't puri post the charts tho #veteran-class message

oh u mean for twins specifically

i just get the sense of the 'visual'

i can't explain it im dumb

but there's a pattern to fatshark's madness

[serene sage]

is it possible to solo the twins?

I guess eventually some one will be persistent/crazy/lucky enough to do it

[marsh condor]

2 vs 1?

[serene sage]

it's in the realm of theoretically possible

[marsh condor]

Well, if you're that good...

[serene sage]

oh I am not the one to do it

[marsh condor]

... assuming you're specifically built for it.

[serene sage]

im just saying if someone can

[marsh condor]

I had this idea, oddly enough.

[serene sage]

cause there is no mechanic in the fight that is not possible to solo

[midnight mortar]

Pretty sure Rinda's constant aggro would make it impossible to handle the rest.

[serene sage]

with enough movement speed you can probably outrun her, but the plasma shield break from the ranged guy is a problem

a big one

[gusty grail]

Does "Onslaught" or other powers that apply Brittleness effect boss shield?

[sleek cairn]

believe it or not, u'd probably want to group them anyway for solo trials

[tall torrent]

Apparently there’s a glitch that allows u to

[sleek cairn]

the first spawn wave is always the left door when u exit the elevator. a pretty common chance for shotgunners too atleast in hard mode

the distance between rodin and that door is probably gonna have me puzzled

[sleek cairn]

what is this glitch

[tall torrent]

https://youtu.be/frVWezfUvYY?si=h_IUyIcnq8h76OBH

[quasi socket]

trying to level ogryn, teams never stick together. pugs are dead, guess its only premade only here on.

[gusty grail]

A bit too disgusting to use imo

[sleek cairn]

zealot OP

nerf.

[past stag]

whats the best perks for MG Ia Lasgun

[dry wagon]

how many ortus offencive penances there are?
5 or more?

[tall torrent]

4

[dry wagon]

my bad, yep, 4

3 for difficulties, 1 for puzzle

[nimble sentinel]

the usual, flakiak

[tall torrent]

I’m not sure actually, have u tested breakpoints

[slate raptor]

Which gun should I go with for a Voice of Command build? Except for Plasma and Bolter.

[quasi socket]

anything you're comfortabnle with tbh

iag columnus/agri are both good

bag's, same thing

[tiny summit]

Yea pretty much whatever. Lately I like to run columnus with onslaught or helbores with shock trooper

[frank ether]

should I bother hitting this up again

I'm kinda giving up on getting a good roll smh

[hollow ibex]

dewit

[tiny summit]

Do it. Pull the lever

[hollow ibex]

gambling is good for your mental health

[slate raptor]

Dont be a quitter :)

[tiny summit]

You're at purple might as well finish it

[frank ether]

aight I'll hit it again after next game

went broke lmao

[slate raptor]

i fucking hate that techpriest man

[frank ether]

same, same

see what she did to my chainsword

I'll never brick it if I never hit upgrade

[slate raptor]

At this point i feel like one of those old people in a casino by numbingly clicking "consecrate" for a good roll...

[quasi socket]

been trying to get pc3/4 for power sword

gone through 7 or 8 now? still no roll

only taking them to blue to save money

[gusty grail]

Tbh I really like Bloodletter

[lilac eagle]

Bloodletter feels so ehhh. Like if you can get into the habit of activating your chain weapon every swing, sure.

[gusty grail]

You can set whatever the second blessing to shred and stamina to Carapace or whatever

[gusty grail]

It's just good vs elites, you unlock a better break points in effect

[finite imp]

SPIN. THAT. WHEEEEL

[gusty grail]

And then with bosses you get insane damage

[lilac eagle]

Bosses sure

Does bleed work on shields?

[tall torrent]

Go to gold

[gusty grail]

If you do 90% of a ragers health with it, the bleed will finish it off instantly

[tall torrent]

Better odds

[alpine pebble]

how does one get this emote wheel?

[tall torrent]

Mod

[gusty grail]

On a boss shield or bullwark? No, but I'm curious what you would bring instead

[lilac eagle]

Boss shield

[elder vessel]

My game pass ran out halfway through playing a heresy Maelstrom mission

[frank ether]

its the perks thats bad there

[elder vessel]

[frank ether]

bloodletter is ok

[lilac eagle]

And I typically just shove cleave on my chain weapons, mainly because I HAVENT ROLLED ANYTHING ELSE

Actually criminal how Hadron's holding out on me

No power cyclers for my power swords, no other lvl 4 perks for my chain weapons

[next spade]

is sunder worth it? I have power cycler

[lilac eagle]

I prefer the one that adds impact or whatever based on how many enemies you've swung through

Rather than just straight cleave

[gusty grail]

I don't touch power sword but I figure you want power cycler + Slaughter

[slate raptor]

^Yeah ive been running the same

[tall torrent]

It’s good

[tall torrent]

It’s power cycler + brutal momentum/sunder rn

[gusty grail]

It's silly though. Get a Reshad Axe with + Flak + Unarmored and then BM and Headtaker and you can pop the heads off of 5 non-elites per light swing

No charge required

[lilac eagle]

That sounds goofy af

[gusty grail]

Well it's what I run on my vet

[tall torrent]

It’s just very hard to roll

[gusty grail]

Yep lol

[mystic belfry]

Sunder is probably your third best option. Power cycler is must have, brutal momentum is your best second, sunder is a generally lesser but usable replacement for bm

[mystic belfry]

You can do without unarmored, but you need your headtaker stacks to be up

[tall torrent]

Unarmored is more important than flak for Rashad

[gusty grail]

Hmmm I had a lot of trouble getting Brusers w/o it

[mystic belfry]

Sure

[tall torrent]

U can reach dreg bruiser one shot without flak

[gusty grail]

On a light attack?

[tall torrent]

It’s very hard to reach scab bruiser one shot without unarmored

[mystic belfry]

But the real important thing is bm+headtaker

[tall torrent]

Yes

[gusty grail]

Good to know

Yeah.

[mystic belfry]

You can one shot trash with your headtaker stacks up. Unarmored lets you do wit without stacks

[tall torrent]

Because rending works on flak

[gusty grail]

I believe rending increases damage vs Unarmored as well

[tall torrent]

No

Rending doesn’t work for unarmored and infested

[mystic belfry]

Rending reduces how much armor reduces your damage

It doesn’t increase your damage

[gusty grail]

Damage

Rending:
Rending has changed a bit. Before, rend was complicated and worked differently for different weapons. It scaled how much damage was blocked by different armour types but with maths making an Ogryns head hurt. Now it’s simpler. It works on anything that’s not just naked or rotting. It works on the Mutants. It works on the Monsters. It works on any armour. Any Rend you have is just added. Until you do full damage. After that it still helps you do more damage, just not as much. If you have a shovel that does 20% damage on the big Carapace guys. With 4% rend, you will now do 24% damage, cause 20 plus 4 is 24. On stuff that already does full damage, it will add 1% damage instead. It always adds 1% more for every 4% Rend you have. Still maths that makes an Ogryns head hurt. Just not as much. And it helps kill things on all weapons.

https://www.playdarktide.com/news/patch-13-patch-notes

[tall torrent]

Yes, just doesn’t help unarmored & infested
Unless they changed that after somehow

[raw steppe]

It works on anything that’s not just naked or rotting

tldr, it doesn't work on unarmored or infested

[gusty grail]

Ahh

Their wording is confusing

[lilac eagle]

It doesn't help theres about 20 enemy types, some of which share weaknesses and some who don't

[swift ingot]

Lets fucking go baby

[atomic zephyr]

should i grab this?

that stopping power is kinda sketch but...

[serene sage]

LETS FUCKING GOOOO

[atomic zephyr]

well i grabbed it but im unsure if i should roll it now lol

just dockets anyway

[tiny summit]

Yea do it. Unless you already got something

[sour scarab]

Time to start making a vetran build to level I guess

What are people's favorite vets

[atomic zephyr]

eh, nothing super good. my best MG1A is only 491 rating total

[lilac eagle]

Aggressively Yorkshire

[atomic zephyr]

grenade

[dusk idol]

my vet is my favourite vet

[atomic zephyr]

lmao this shit is brick

oh wait

like, personality

[serene sage]

what I termed enforcer vet
it has a semi marksman + nade + double toughness talent setup

[atomic zephyr]

they're all good tbh

[tiny summit]

If you're asking about whether a weapon is worth and its got 60s minimum in everything even if a dump stat in an important stat, it's a completely fine weapon. You'll be searching for the god rolls after that

[gusty elm]

I'm a huge fan of just going full support and screaming at people to give them buffs.

[serene sage]

basically you're tanky, provide utilities/damage through nade and have enough ranged to snipe one shot nearly everything

[tall torrent]

Cadian professional

[serene sage]

except maulers and crushers

[atomic zephyr]

loose cannon has some great snark but i feel like the bit of them babbling on and on about not knowing codes is overdone

[atomic zephyr]

hadron bricked it

[elder vessel]

My vet is your favorite vet

[atomic zephyr]

wtf why acnt i send images

[rancid shale]

What kind of build would y'all suggest for this (Ignoring the fact that it isn't a very good weapon)?

What would y'all run with this?

[atomic zephyr]

anyway, hadron bricked this. ranged critical hit damage, infested damage, t3 no respite.

[fleet garden]

bovine vets

[atomic zephyr]

sad

[slate raptor]

Cutthroat for extra ptsd

[tiny summit]

Exe helbore

[rancid shale]

What kind of build would y'all run with this?

[swift ingot]

@tall torrent

[lilac eagle]

Loose cannon the racketeer?

[sour scarab]

Hmmmm that sounds like my idea of fun. .

[fleet garden]

maybe cattle vets

[tiny summit]

They should have gotten it right occasionally

[swift ingot]

This is the chainaxe that lead me to victory

[sour scarab]

You know it 😘

[serene sage]

it appears that Discord is shitting itself

goodbye friends

[tiny summit]

Idk. Right now if I were to touch recons it would be a shout build with onslaught

But eh

[atomic zephyr]

no, they havent

the one time they land on a code is traxis-12, which does not exist

load into auric damnation, see stealth zealot with purple revolver going in

i have a bad feeling about this

[fleet garden]

whats the best build going on atm

[tall torrent]

Nice

[fleet garden]

psword with w/e range you like and shout?

[mystic belfry]

Worth seeing what blue you get I guess, the rolls are good but the perk isn’t

Stopping power does matter a good bit as well

[tall torrent]

Depends on ur weapons

Lots of top tier meta options rn

[fossil basalt]

What you like to play and how you like to play it

[sonic cedar]

Plasma gun seems like the solution to every problem lol

[fossil basalt]

That's because the only weakness of plasma gun is horde density, which is countered by any half decent melee

[south garnet]

JUST BEAT HARDMODE WOO

[formal talon]

Does Pen matter if you are running 100% Rending?

[fleet garden]

discord dying?

[still leaf]

looks like yeah

I've got like 7~ servers that're dead, both personal servers and legit official community ones

[compact bear]

welp i finaly dit the twins on hard mode sadly dit not abled to do it but as a support zealot with a ogryn and 2 psykers it actualy went well

[south garnet]

I just beat them on hard mode, that's what snapped discord's spine in half, me personally, I did it

in a pub no less

[edgy obsidian]

It was actually me winning a league game for once, that broke discord

Grats on hardmode tho, fun mission overall

[south garnet]

Yea definitely feels like an actual boss battle, good stuff. The first time I did the mission I really enjoyed the atmosphere of the lead-up too, pretty eerie

[sharp ember]

nope, feel free to dump it if you have rending

well, it's still some damage if the pen scales beyond 100% damage

but if the pen scaling doesn't, go wild

[edgy obsidian]

Yea I thought it'd take place in carnival, so repurposed magistrati was pretty neat

Least I think it was that one

[sharp ember]

i.e. chainaxes doing like 175% damage to flak

[hollow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/rookie-numbers-gif-26135237

Or you could wait for melks if you’re patient

[umbral scaffold]

This was one of my most intense matches. We beat it with 3 vets tho did get carried by the Zealot at the end hard. https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2005160337

[nimble sentinel]

boooooooooo psword

people like plasma/revolver/columnus, VoC and tagging, melee a toss up between dclaw csword new shovels and [sigh] the wish.com lightswaber

you can also dip in the left tree to get shock trooper and grab a Kantral Infantry Lasgun MG IV as the God Emperor intended

[knotty kayak]

how would i go about salvaging this chain axe (emprahs gift i upgraded from purple to orange)

how would i go about salvaging this chain axe (emprahs gift that has been upgraded)

[hollow ibex]

ps6 and plasma

[delicate moat]

discord had a moment

[nimble sentinel]

been playing too much zealot

[versed merlin]

did you also experience a discord breakdown some mins ago?

[delicate moat]

yeah discord had an outage

[versed merlin]

oh good thought my pc was messed up

[nimble sentinel]

Experiencing one now

Works on my phone I think

[tall torrent]

I feel like the melee modifier for keystone might be better?

And without mercy killer, serrated blade is not worth taking

[wind nexus]

hey guys, which perks or blessings should I swap out of this plasma?

[solar sky]

Is the discord bugged or something? Was saying over 100+ players on yesterday, and 6 today

something happen?

[brisk sapphire]

volatile to gets hot

[solar sky]

get rid of volitile for gets hot or shattering impact

and swap unarmored to maniac

ammo's a bit low, but that's a great roll

[forest blaze]

Infested to maniac and thrust to bloodletter

[serene sage]

...

[cunning sandal]

[charred salmon]

does blocking do anything

[forest blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/black-people-what-where-did-time-go-gif-10268635

[forest blaze]

Besides block?

[dusk idol]

yeah I don’t understand the question

[forest blaze]

Does shooting do anything?

[dusk idol]

besides shoot?

[forest blaze]

No need to be a douche

Jk lmao

[dusk idol]

lmao

[tall torrent]

Volatile to gets hot
Everything else is perfect no need to change

Unarmored gives u Dreg gunner 1 shot breakpoint

U don’t have to have maniac to 1 shot both flamers in the head

Tag keystone handles that already, it’s like 1361 dmg to the head on them

[vernal harbor]

Honest to god though

Does block actually do anything

I find dodging just better

[tall torrent]

Yea

[vernal harbor]

I think most times I block it maybe blocks one before I’m broken

[tall torrent]

There’s a hard limit on dodges

[vernal harbor]

So it’s like a last resort

[tall torrent]

Which weapon

[vernal harbor]

Power sword

[tall torrent]

Use block efficiency for curios

[vernal harbor]

Maybe it’s because I might dash while blocking so it drains my stamina as well

[tall torrent]

Dodge doesn’t drain stamina

It just pauses stamina regen

If u don’t have stamina regen delay reduction it’s gonna suck

[flat furnace]

hi guys

watchu talking about?

[dusk idol]

whether or not the daemonhost is smash or pass

[flat furnace]

oh

I mean...

have you seen that image from 34?

[olive rapids]

Priest can smash anything pretty good. Have you seen the thunder hammer assassin build?

[dusk idol]

always pass

never smash

[flat furnace]

honestly I have dedicated my life solely to vet

[dusk idol]

new zealot Evis is pulling me back to zealot

[finite imp]

Make dh worth killing and we'll talk

[fleet garden]

whats up with these loading screens holy shit

[vernal harbor]

DH worth literally anything and grimoires justifiable to pick up

[quasi socket]

just got back from gym, time to check melk for disappointment

[vernal harbor]

Naturally

[quasi socket]

dh give achieve, nothing else. check with group if they wanna grab grimoires normally

[vernal harbor]

Don’t even remember the last time someone asked, they just grab it and are told to put that shit down lmao

[quasi socket]

most of the time i avoid them like the plague

would rather have ammo/medi kits

[vernal harbor]

Especially if we’ve got two magazines left between the four of us who are critically wounded

[mystic belfry]

Just have grims give significant plasteel

[quasi socket]

hmmmm

[vernal harbor]

Just 366? Feels like it should be way more

[quasi socket]

mobility sub 70, ammo almost 60

[vernal harbor]

Better than anything melk showed me in months

[quasi socket]

well no pc3/4 so garbage gear. back to the ogryn i go.

[versed merlin]

ahh yes the pc grind

glad to see another fellow strugler

[mystic belfry]

I still don’t have power cycler 4

[versed merlin]

i just got my first pc3 i cant dream that high yet

[quasi socket]

im just trying to get a sword to roll it so i can have it stored before goin for a "good" roll

[peak token]

whats the difference between munitorum VI and III power sword

[forest blaze]

10/10 would smash

[versed merlin]

6 has better move set

actually thats subjective, but people tend to like 6 way more

[fleet garden]

knife zealots in hm twins

smh

[versed merlin]

you wont know til you try it yourself

[peak token]

i ve just got my power cycler 4 at long last

yay

[mystic belfry]

Based

[versed merlin]

343 base rating

how tf

what are the chances

[fleet garden]

I will never get anything better

[peak token]

holy

[mystic belfry]

Change flak

Unyielding, carapace, or elite

[fleet garden]

why

[mystic belfry]

Flak doesn’t help ps

[versed merlin]

hmm carapace

does having carapace changes any breakpoints to kill crusher with ps?

[mystic belfry]

Depends on build, it can

[versed merlin]

thats poggers

[mystic belfry]

Before capstone rework you could one tap crushers

You might be able to with tag stone idk

[balmy flume]

…the spec ops is really first timer unfriendly :p

(On Heresy even, nervermind damnation…)

[forest blaze]

One mutant charge into the green fog away from a wipe hahaha

[acoustic bloom]

when the quickplay veteran with 2000+ hours starts explaining basic game mechanics to you
but he's a nice guy so just add in a "yeah" every minute or so

[twin elk]

if i ping someone with focus target multiple times, does it stack up, or what

[umbral scaffold]

Removes all previous stacks

Only the amount of focus target stacks you had at the time of the new ping are applied

[acoustic bloom]

and focus targets from different vets don't stack either

[quasi socket]

do cosmetics unlocked on 1 vet apply to a 2nd vet on the same acccount?

[brisk sapphire]

yes

i know cause i have 3 ogryns

[acoustic bloom]

[twin elk]

[quasi socket]

im bout to delete zealot and make another vet. thing feels like trash.

[brisk sapphire]

could always get the increased operative slots mod

and keep him

[acoustic bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/giygas-cat-melon-cat-psychotic-gif-25770926

zealot after not criting for 0.02 seconds

[astral blade]

Well this is officially my proper set up

[eternal sable]

femboy spotted

[brisk sapphire]

my desk is 4x as long

[astral blade]

Where let me beat the fucker up

[brisk sapphire]

be nice to the femboys

[mystic belfry]

My desk is a length of butcher block I bolted onto the wall

[eternal sable]

if you touch me im going to tell my boyfriend and hes jacked so gl hf

[mystic belfry]

no

[junior grail]

Which part of them are you beating?

[eternal sable]

their dicks

[mystic belfry]

Liver

[eternal sable]

thats what

[junior grail]

Ara~

[astral blade]

nope lights outs no one home sort of beating

[acoustic bloom]

turn off the lights

😳

[potent iris]

https://tenor.com/view/low-tier-god-necro-skull-trooper-colt-general-low-tier-god-skull-trooper-gif-26079010

[astral blade]

seriously get y'all minds out of the gutter filithy animals

[potent iris]

I may be asking the impossible

but can you all just be normal

[mystic belfry]

Says the ctual animal

[astral blade]

that is impossible to ask my friend this is a vet chat after all

[mystic belfry]

Just ban 97% of the server and you'll be good for awhile

[muted temple]

normal? hah only heretics are normal

[fleet garden]

vet chat cant be normal smh

[mystic belfry]

If you're horny you're clearly a slaanesh heretic

[midnight mortar]

That's easily achievable if you ban the people obsessed with femboys.

[astral blade]

https://tenor.com/view/look-what-yep-this-gif-13617583

[charred salmon]

Can i post a build in here for opinions on it?

[mystic belfry]

I support this movement

I certainly wouldn't stop you from posting a build

[umbral scaffold]

Wtf

[pastel geode]

Absolutely

[stark saddle]

What blessings and perks for shovel?

[charred salmon]

What do you guys think of this build? https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9adbf175-f19c-4adf-9104-117f4448ea33/veteran-2?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[umbral scaffold]

The recon las needs a buff, just sayin

[raw steppe]

tbh kinda bad

you took all the bad marksman focus bonus nodes

and you didnt take the only one that's worth taking

[charred salmon]

wym?

[mystic belfry]

Swap the two red talents with two of the green checks of your choice

[raw steppe]

also no ammo aura is really bad cuz your team is just gonna suffer

[mystic belfry]

I also would also take camoflage on marksman

Hmm actually just one a sec I'll make a new image

[raw steppe]

I'd also recommend ogryn damage and some form of grenade recovery

whether it's regen or grenades on kill

[charred salmon]

what exactly is camo

[mystic belfry]

This is how I would change it myself

[fleet garden]

I would remove deadshot and take another in marksman

[mystic belfry]

The other two aren't a big deal tbh

[fleet garden]

toughness reg is pretty good

[mystic belfry]

10% rending is okay if you really want it, but it's not better than deadshot

[fleet garden]

im just trying to do hm twins so my builds all over

[charred salmon]

what is rending and supression

[mystic belfry]

Rending is armor penetration, suppression is making enemies flinch when you shoot near them

Suppression should be 100% ignored, never take it unless you have to

[charred salmon]

but what about the skill that makes me not get supressed is that good?

[mystic belfry]

Yes

[charred salmon]

it measn i dont get flinched?

[mystic belfry]

When you're suppressed your aim gets shaky

[versed merlin]

emperor just gifted me this

[midnight mortar]

Rending means you deal a % more of the damage you would normally apply to the armor type you're striking.

Rending does not apply to unarmored or infested.

[wet crest]

is there a good veteran guide somewherE? similar to the psyker one

[mystic belfry]

Not that I know of

[versed merlin]

veteranomicon when

[slender turtle]

WHAT do you mean... it doesn't rend the flesh?

[vernal harbor]

u good? 😧

[mystic belfry]

Rending and Brittleness just reduce the effect of enemy armor

They don't increase your damage, they reduce the penalty of enemy damage reduction

Unarmored and infested have no armor

Rending is a buff on the player, brittleness is a debuff on the enemy

Brittleness does effect damage your allies do as well.

[wet crest]

any tips on leveling? about 15 when i quit, before talents came out

[charred salmon]

deadshot applies when ads? thats what alternate fire means?

[mystic belfry]

Just do the hardest difficulty you can survive on

[versed merlin]

is this node an overkill for weap spec keystone?

[mystic belfry]

Yep.

[wet crest]

krak grenade good?

[mystic belfry]

It won't help when you're get the crit from weapon specialist. it applies to all your melee, and shots past the first one on your range, it's pretty good.

[mystic belfry]

Boss damage, and kills enemy ogryn. If I take it, it's usually to kill bulwarks

It's a fine option. All three nades are viable, really.

[versed merlin]

do i lose the dodge crit chance stacks when i crit?

[mystic belfry]

No, just when 8 seconds pass without a successful dodge

Which means dodging an enemy that is locked onto you

[vernal harbor]

i take krak, everyone kills big ones before it goes off, i take shredder and no one can manage the big ones

duality of vet

[versed merlin]

hmm then its good

[wet crest]

is there a best ability?

[versed merlin]

voice of command

[wet crest]

like executioners?

[mystic belfry]

Krak on crushers is usually a waste, unless you fold sveral together with Shout

[wet crest]

oh really?

[mystic belfry]

No. But Shout is the most widly applicable

Exe is good. I would never use stealth personally

[vernal harbor]

shout if you know what youre doing and volley if you need some assistance with getting elites

[versed merlin]

yeah every ability shines in its own way but voc is useful in every situation, so it kinda outpaces the others

[vernal harbor]

stealth.... for the repair minigame

bout it

[versed merlin]

low profile so i can get shit on

[vernal harbor]

but when you need a man with stealth, you NEED a man

[mystic belfry]

Stealth is great for turning hordes into a 3v1 while you eat popcorn

[vernal harbor]

dont worry

i use stealth to swoop in and save the team

its handy 🙂

[versed merlin]

its for reloading my weapons trust

[raw steppe]

Ez. 🤩

Brautos are very nice

[mystic belfry]

Alternatively, don't use stealth and the team won't go down so often 🤔

[versed merlin]

i dont like them haha

[formal relic]

Man, I love the plasma gun

[mystic belfry]

Gross default leaderboard mod smh

[raw steppe]

Ah well theyre great when you wanna be mindless and also not have to shoot heads

[formal relic]

it's ovenproof's

[mystic belfry]

Still using the team score :v

[vernal harbor]

i never fight with people online but i have to restrain myself everytime a stealth vet clutches and saves us then saying "see stealth is good to have when you guys need saving"

https://tenor.com/view/jerma-jerma985-deranged-stare-gif-25525909

[mystic belfry]

That's shout

[midnight mortar]

Right mouse click/M2: Alternate Fire

When you inspect a ewapon it tells you what the special action and alternate actions are.

[raw steppe]

Huh lol

Thats weapon based

Not ult based

Like if you're using revolver or plasma with shout, you still need to click heads

[umbral scaffold]

Exactly

[vernal harbor]

stealth vet critical thinking 101

[elder vessel]

I love default scoreboard SMH

[brisk sapphire]

I have my scoreboard pretty much set to match vt2's but with more damage details

[wet crest]

what are the good automatic guns?

this single shot guns are giving me carpal tunnel

[brisk sapphire]

Agri brauto and columnus IAG immediately come to mind

[wet crest]

wish there was an autmatic good at sniping elites too

sucks u gotta go one way or another

[pearl granite]

insignia doesn't show in match anymore, is it a bug?

[junior grail]

After experiencing the oneshot shovels and new Chaxe, is it bad that I feel Thammer is a hassle to bring anymore?

[pearl granite]

new outfit in shop? 😮

[old quail]

no, it's kinda fallen off a bit

[quasi ledge]

No, mods.

[junior grail]

Ah so its not just me, got it

I still dont know how to use For The Drip mod hahaha

[mystic belfry]

Hammer 2 is still good