gameplay-help

[fresh ocean]

then when it comes to regular enemies I can't even dodge them with the combat knife out

and its of course cause the distance is like not matching their weapons at all

[foggy field]

Me and my team are doing havoc dark communion but it isnt ending any help?

[rigid wasp]

Back dodges, for the most part, get you in trouble with the enemy you're trying to dodge

Ragers put enough pressure that I like using some kind of CC on them, but Ainz probably has the trick down to interrupting them with any melee

Things like assail, tactical axe specials, explosives and revolver shots all give you a "no no" to use on ragers

[kind raven]

This is very good, thanks!

[shadow skiff]

Known bug, Dark Communion breaks often, especially with Rituals.

Either reroll or have someone else host.

[serene latch]

hi, i try to find some havoc party, but havoc option is locked under the find party. is there a bug or something with the game?

[fresh ocean]

So you should always side dodge?

[paper zenith]

What’s your operative’s level?

[fresh ocean]

are there any videos or websites showing enemies hitboxes? I think that would personally help me a lot

[sinful summit]

If you have any other party finder option selected, you cant select the havoc one
Press e (or click on it in the bottom corner) to reset your filters then you should be able to select it

Or youre just not lvl 30 on your current character lol

[serene latch]

nvm, diselecting all options showed havoc lobbies too

[serene latch]

i'm lv270, deselecting everything showed havoc lobbies 🙏 ty

forgot that you gotta do that

[tame anchor]

so can enemies attack you when chaos spawn is nomming on you?

[clear plume]

Yes

Rarely

They are coded not too but sometimes enemies will still finish their attack combo while you are grabbed

[sinful summit]

Certain enemies dont have that restriction for specific attacks

Gunners and reapers will still melee you if you are within range

Same with flamers (but they can also yknow flame you)

And plenty of other specialists

Same is the case for basically any other grab too

Bosses also dont have that restriction either

[glass fox]

Not getting plasteel when discarding shop weapons?

[clear plume]

what color/tier was the weapon?

[glass fox]

they range from grey blue and green but I discard them all together for mats and get only money

[clear plume]

interesting

havent heard of a bug like that

visual bug maybe?

[glass fox]

yeah I just got a yellow from a quest and got only ordos

[clear plume]

@lime idol any resources for learning tide game dodge mechanics?

[lime idol]

Uh

[clear plume]

@fresh ocean is asking questions that I can only explain from experience

[lime idol]

Enemy melee attacks are not always perfectly synced with their animations, and they have tracking on your player character’s model

Dodges disable that tracking, so most melee attacks (the ones that don’t have AOE) can be avoided by dodging regardless of direction

The AOE melee attacks (like overheads) have to be dodged where you’re outside the AOE, otherwise you’ll still be hit

[keen narwhal]

there's mods that highlights their AOE overhead attacks

[lime idol]

Crusher and mauler both have 2 overhead attacks (normal and moving)

The moving overhead attacks are better dodged to the side since they’ll move forward while doing them

[lime idol]

It’s usually a good idea to dodge at the start of the enemy’s attack animation windup

For consistency

[fresh ocean]

I don't have issues identifying what attack is about to happen I have issue identifying how big hurtboxes are. Are some attacks wider? Are some more narrow and go further straight? A mod to highlight that would be great but relying on feeling alone is kind of hard for consistency when visuals are meant to be relied on

[keen narwhal]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/639

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/638

[fresh ocean]

does this exist for all enemies?

[keen narwhal]

no only those 2 have overheads

[lime idol]

Basically only overhead attacks have AOE (among melee attacks) afaik

[keen narwhal]

rest you'll have to do a best guesstimate

[lime idol]

Some bosses have AOE overheads too (chaos spawn, plague ogryn, captains)

[fresh ocean]

I'm pretty sure i have a clip that shows a mauler overheading me outside that range tho so like

[keen narwhal]

yes those too

[lime idol]

Could be a moving overhead

[fresh ocean]

which is even bigger?

[keen narwhal]

btw did they ever fix the +3 stamina curio at 400 rating bug? or is it still a thing?

[lime idol]

No. It makes them move forward while tracking you

[fresh ocean]

He was stuck behind a bulwark so thats very unlikely he had the chance to move forward

[lime idol]

Still a thing, look for 410+

[keen narwhal]

okay thank you

[fresh ocean]

i actually never saw even the weapon go infront of the shield i just exploded

[keen narwhal]

could've been a lot of things

like the host having poor connection...etc lol

[fresh ocean]

Idk im just trying to make the process of not getting hit enjoyable but the fact the game lack consistency on that and we don't even have visuals is just a horrible feeling

and it sounds like all i can do is get a very detached feel for it and pray

I mean I'm enjoying harder difficulties but if all that awaits me in those harder difficulties is more punishment on a already hard to grasp system then idk

[lime idol]

DT is not p2p

[fresh ocean]

Yeah isn't just servers

[keen narwhal]

oh well, okay then sometimes the server are crappy lol

I've seen some weird shit

lol

[lime idol]

U could try practicing in meat grinder with creature spawner

And read attack animations better

[clear plume]

*use artificial lag mod if you do

[fresh ocean]

what does that mod do?

[clear plume]

simulates lag compenstation that the player gets when playing on ping (online mode)

since the testing room is offline there is no lag comp so enemies have different dodge timings

boss overheads/mutants/snipers are all nearly instant

[fresh ocean]

I mean i guess if i specifically focus on figuring out the attacks and nothing else I'd get better quicker

[fresh ocean]

Well that makes me question how the game handles servers and what servers it is putting me in

[clear plume]

go to mission board and press E

[fresh ocean]

is there a way to view my ping?

[clear plume]

.

no way to tell ping in game

but its a rough estimate

there is a mod that does tell you

[fresh ocean]

Yeah its like 15-27ms

Well at least i have a little more info to go off of

thanks for the help I'm just frustrated

[clear plume]

tide games do that

leave out alot of info, leave the player confused and do not elaborate

sadly its how both games were made

and community resources for darktide are rare and often are outdated or just wrong

compared to the VT community it does lack

[polar forum]

it's a blessing and a curse

because even when they do provide information

half the time, it's fucking wrong

[tame anchor]

shock mace falter says it gives 30 stagger on ranged

so aoe bolter would benefit?

[olive magnet]

Anyone using DogWhistle mod can help out with settings for it and any tips? Not sure what to toggle on and off

[tame anchor]

i think i found my current skill cap to be H20 or so

every level past that has been punishing

we were o nthe big windmill map, pushed past the windmill

immediately the twins spawn with a burgle

the H40s say we are suppose to back up, but even in the open, i dont know how to fight all 3 and a mob

[balmy moat]

in such a situation, theres usually someone of the 4 of you made for horde clear, its their job to take care of the horde. that leaves the other 3 to take on the bosses, based on priority. burgle, twins, makes melee twin highest priority of the three. then either burgle or ranged twin, depends on what everyone just goes for

[tame anchor]

i was playing ogryn, so i tried to taunt, throw a few boxes into the horde

and distract the melee twin

but ya, not everyone was on mic to coordinate

and two of us werent like... super expereinced to just 'know'

it was H26, but it was crazy how much meat we had to push through for many of the rooms

prior to that we tried 3 attempts at H23 with rotten armor and final toll

and it was just... miserable

wall of HP

At laset i got this today

but havoc past a certain level is a whole new level of misery

feel like things just dont wanna die

[craggy minnow]

havoc turns into a build puzzle kinda which is why party finder is miserable

[marble pecan]

havoc difficulty imho is a bell curve

havoc 30 and havoc 40 is the same, havoc 30-39 is more difficult than 40 because most people will be climbing to 40

except for pox gas, feck pox gas

it turns 30 to 50

[little coyote]

a lot of it also comes down to unlucky director trolling

though I do prefer pox gas over Blight Spreads

(both suck)

[marble pecan]

blight spreads is manageable with zealot's beacon of purity

pox gas is floor is lava, except everything is lava

[little coyote]

true, though we rarely have a zealot running about

[marble pecan]

i noticed less people picking zealot since hive scum came out

[little coyote]

scum stim supply also helps

but most have rampage

[marble pecan]

true, both zealot and hive scum picking double corruption cleanse is nice

dueling sword on zealot is insane

[stoic locust]

Not as good as relic blade

[marble pecan]

vs rotten armor?

[stoic locust]

In general

You lose some singletarget and mobility but gain incredible mixed horde clear

[marble pecan]

relic blade probably has best horde clear as a melee on zealot, but those rotten armor crusher will make or break a havoc run

someone in the team will have to do the dirty job once ammo runs low

[stoic locust]

Just run fat zealot or something idk

[little coyote]

I mostly run scum nowadays and dual shivs really kill anything

[north owl]

can blitzes crit (except for psyker)?

[sinful summit]

Only throwing knives and assail

[north owl]

Thanks!

[kind raven]

what's the difference between mod 4 bolt pistol and mod 6 bolt pistol?

[shadow skiff]

Og has more damage and slight penetration, new mark has lower damage, less ammo and explodes on hit so no penetration but better CC radius. The explosion damage is really bad though.

In 99.5% of cases, the OG is better.

If you are only playing malice... then heh.

[rigid wasp]

I can't answer that off the top of my head, but I remember I started taking way less damage when I started hugging enemies while dodging

[tame anchor]

if you want explody - the explody variant of the bolter aint bad

i prefer it on arbites

[fresh ocean]

Well it would make sense if hurtboxes are only directly infront of the enemy but I don't know if hurtboxes follow the enemies arm or if those hurtboxes are just a rectangle infront of the enemy

Like some games have enemies swing a weapon and that hurtbox follows the weapon so with iframes you should dodge through that attack to lower the amount of time your hitbox is in their hurtbox

Now some people claimed iframes don't exist but then you can dodge crusher aoe attacks without leaving their aoe range

Perhaps not technically iframes but something is making it so that attack won't hit

[rigid wasp]

It's kind of that they don't* exist

And since it's Fatshark, the game isn't entirely consistent

[fresh ocean]

It doesn't help parts of the community tell me i suck and its a skill issue then ignore these points but whatever i guess

[rigid wasp]

One of the best displays of how tight attacks can be is actually trying to defend against a rager crowd targeting another ally: you just don't

Then you have attacks like the crusher overhead, which you can actually lead into your teammates so everyone can eat shit

[fresh ocean]

Well rager attacks aren't aoe right?

[rigid wasp]

Max I've seen was 2 people get clapped at once, but 4 can happen and it even works through walls

[fresh ocean]

the only aoe attacks are the overheads on mauler and crusher then some boss moves

[rigid wasp]

I think so, but I don't have them memorized to confirm

[fresh ocean]

Aoe attacks are what I can most consistently dodge without leaving the hurtbox range and be okay

[rigid wasp]

The reason I'm mentioning the rager is to say that it's less like the traditional hitbox attack, and more like a lock-on that you break when dodging

But for some reason enemies have a harder time with sideways dodges than backwards ones

Specially ragers, with all that skating

[fresh ocean]

That would be up to how the hurtbox is designed then

because if its just a narrow but long hurtbox forward it makes sense it hits the player

there is a mod for viewing hurtboxes i think but it looks very odd and I need to be in singleplayer to view it which i dont think this game has?

Like i've never seen hit detection like that so I'm not sure if its the actual games way of handling hurtboxes or its a interpretation from the mod maker

[eager flame]

rager is lock-on to 1 player but not AoE. easier to backstep than to dodge to the side their attacks because they sweep and track so well. If they are attacking someone else you are safe to engage them unless there are 14 others as is often the case.

[fresh ocean]

does the actual hurtbox sweep or is that just what it looks like?

[eager flame]

it sweeps but it won't hit other players they are not locked onto. Just makes it harder for the locked on player to escape each swing unless they back away.

[fresh ocean]

Well oof there is more conflicting info

[eager flame]

It is V2 berzerker AI.

[fresh ocean]

I mean due to lack of data and proof along with a lot of conflicting info within the community I'd have to take that with a grain of salt

there absolutely is some level of iframes

you can pin yourself against a wall and dodge enemy attacks and not just aoe attacks

[polar forum]

it's more forced miss than iframes

[clear plume]

now try spot dodging an attack aimed a teammate

lol

[fresh ocean]

there are apparently two hurtboxes

[polar forum]

you take it like a man

[fresh ocean]

one that you will always get hit and one that if you are dodging in you will never get hit

[eager flame]

rager is not undodgeable, but most dodges will leave you open to follow up sweeps at some point, especially if you try to sidestep them in a corner, more so if there is more than one at a time on you

[fresh ocean]

I mean im sure you can always side dodge a single rager but doing several idk

its probably best to get some distance

[eager flame]

dodge without holding block and see how often you get hit just sidestepping. The best thing about a single rager on you is how little stamina chip they do. The worst thing is once they start they just can't stop the DPS 😛

[fresh ocean]

Two hurtboxes exist for ragers. The red smaller one you will always take damage even if you dodge. The green bigger hurtbox will only damage you if you don't dodge in it. You don't have to leave the range you just need to time the dodge

strange

[fresh ocean]

I mean i understand its better to dodge back but saying its impossible to always dodge to the side im not so sure

because dodging breaks tracking so even if that hit does hit its not tracking you

[eager flame]

more like impractical assuming you aren't playing with a dagger and dodge talent tree buffs

[fresh ocean]

but also some attacks only count as one hit

as in only one hurtbox is appearing for those attacks

[fresh ocean]

Depends how close you are cause the hurtbox is a cone and is a lot smaller the closer you are to the rager

uh id send an image but i cant

[eager flame]

rager is a perpetual series of hurtboxes in a square foot space

[fresh ocean]

what data tells you that?

theres only like one thing visually showing hurtboxes and im using it (that im aware of)

im side dodging with literally debuffed dodges on the shock mace

[fresh ocean]

Yeah it seems like a lot of hurtboxes don't actually match up with their visuals

but for some reason bulwarks hurtbox actually follows the weapons swing instead of just using one big cone as the attack

is Bulwark a newer enemy?

no i guess not. I wonder if they just didn't have enough time or something to make all melee attacks accurate like that

[remote needle]

any good resources for improving? I'm ok at auric but struggle at auric maelstrom

[clear plume]

Practice and research

Use less powerful weapons and builds

Clutch often

Try true solos or duos

[remote needle]

yes research

i was wondering about good resources for researching

[clear plume]

Watching/Talking with people better then you might help in finding your weakness

You can consult Kuli's, Combine's, Path's, guide on steam

Read through how special enemies spawn and work on the reddit post pinned in zealot chat

Or just watch people who solo the hardest content

Shameless plug....

[remote needle]

do you stream/ make youtube videos?

[clear plume]

I have videos of my challenge runs, yes

[remote needle]

cool, link?

[clear plume]

Kuli as well. Jsat might

https://www.youtube.com/@AinzDT

Easiest way to improve is to branch out of your comfort zone

Use weaker weapons

Use less optimal talent combos

When I 1st started doing solos it took a good week of off and on attempts to win my 1st run

[remote needle]

oh god watching other people play is giving me motion sickness lol

[clear plume]

Lol

I do play fast with high fov so then my content might not be best

[remote needle]

what do the floating numbers mean

[clear plume]

Uhhh

Show me

I'm unsure what you mean

[remote needle]

im watching the tylenol veteran video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG6M01_1SOc

bottom right i see +xx alot

and over other players heads

[clear plume]

True level

The game keeps track of exp gained after 30

[remote needle]

gotcha

u are incredibly mobile

[clear plume]

And the numbers was from an old mod bug

From my ammo

[clear plume]

Thank you. It's one of the best skills to learn

Mobility breaks the game

This isn't VT where you need to stand and hold ground

[remote needle]

i was very bad at vt2 lol

[clear plume]

It's a difficult game compared to dt

[remote needle]

what are some resources for improving mobility

[clear plume]

4 things to think about

1: weapon mobility. Some weapons have base higher stats making you move faster or have more dodges while.holding them

2: talent mobility (mettle on psyker gives you move speed after landing a crit)

[pastel forge]

thats too many things

[clear plume]

3: side dodging (conserves stamina and depending on weapon is faster then sprinting)

4: terrain/hight differences

Dodging sideways from a higher point will throw you, keeping your dodge momentum

[remote needle]

i think i may have been relying on dueling sword too much for kiting

[clear plume]

Yes

A common thing newer players spam

[remote needle]

ok new goal, I wanna be fast with a slower weapon

[clear plume]

And they don't learn common mobility techs

[clear plume]

Read this and down

[remote needle]

will do

[clear plume]

Using slower things in this context

[remote needle]

no more dueling sword no more knife

[clear plume]

Try something you never thought of

Shock maul?

All weapons can perform even in high havoc

[remote needle]

ok shock maul

[mortal cedar]

Hey, everyone. I’m new here and I’m hoping I’m in the right place to find experienced teams who are willing to play high level content. Most of my friends stopped playing sadly, and I’ve become exhausted from getting rejected from almost every single Havoc entry request, only because I haven’t done a 40 that week. I’ve completed numerous 40’s and I’m trying to make the climb for myself, but it’s feeling more and more impossible. Hopefully I can meet some new players here who might be willing to help. Also here for the vibes! 40k rocks.

[smoky ember]

#vox-lfg-lexicanum

u can also ask in class chats and someone may reply if they’re up for some h40

[fresh ocean]

can inferno staff agro daemonhost? Everyone was pushed up on the daemon host and i was behind them shooting a little fire and it agro'd onto me and killed me. I don't get why me being the most careful resulted in me being punished

and no the fire didn't damage the daemonhost

[clear plume]

yes it can

[fresh ocean]

Is fire somehow worse than 3 players shooting next to it?

[clear plume]

depends

how dh works

[fresh ocean]

So its a system built on who did X thing last not who did X thing the most

[clear plume]

ciorrect

[fresh ocean]

So i made the mistake of even helping my teammates a little

[clear plume]

yup

[fresh ocean]

ill probably just let them be on their own next time

unfair but at least i know how to avoid it

technically my fault for shooting anywhere close to it but also my teams fault for killing hordes on the daemonhost

[rich cliff]

Need some guidance, I wanna get to and start doing the harder missions but I’m not sure I’m up strong enough yet, what’s the proper progression

Currently on Heresy w 310 gear rating

Solo player no one I know plays this

[little coyote]

Just give Damnation a try, upgrade your weapons as you go

stick around your teammates and you'll be fine

are you level 30?

[vocal nacelle]

pick a proper talent tree too

[cloud aurora]

why are the havoc maps and modifiers not rotating its a new week

is fatshark still on holiday break? this is the third week with these absymal modifiers

[little coyote]

Very likely that most are, tomorrow is another holiday

[vocal nacelle]

not mid january yet

[cloud aurora]

it can't be that hard to rotate them or set them to rotate in advance, it feels lazy and im dissapointed that they made this horrible extended havoc rotation our holiday gift

[little coyote]

Someone's gotta handpick the variables

[kind raven]

Should you just avoid rotten armor in havoc?? We play as 3, two arbites and a psyker and the maps with it feel like a huge pain in the ass to progress the map because every step theres a patrol with so much tanky shit to kill.

Is there a class that can genuinely deal with it consistently without constantly going dry on resources?

[vocal nacelle]

Smite psyker

CC and kill them one by one

[marble pecan]

dueling sword crit zealot

unless they inject stims and go red then gg

[vocal nacelle]

Double class doesn't do much

Vet with krak also quite good

[balmy moat]

inferno psyker

[rotund ermine]

need to double check

do we have melee weapons where combos is AOE attacks and no single targets?
(Large swings and wide attacks)

[little coyote]

crit rampage scum will delete any rotten armour horde

dual shivs and you'll be one hitting maulers and two-three hitting crushers

[kind raven]

Alright thanks, another question, is there a universal advice on how to fight leutenants? Sometimes some of us stay alone (mostly our arbites players) and it can be a bitch to solo them. They managed a few times but it's pretty rough, esp the melee leutenant. The ranged one is more or less free

[eternal mortar]

1. They have super-telegraphed attacks
2. Swarm that bitch like ants on candy

[rotund ermine]

usually block and dodge the mines

If you can let your teammates handle the LT while you clear hordes or you handle the LT and let your team clear chaffs

Tell someone to clear the room if they can via blits or kill chaff

the more clear room the better you live

[keen flume]

Rinda is pretty agile and has few strikes that hits you hard but the best way to deal is learn her telegraphed attacks mainly the fast melee attack chain and charged attack that will glow bright

The fast attack chain can be blocked and it costs very little stamina

[languid jewel]

U never wanna solo them.

Once u get split in a bossfight in havoc its usually over.

[keen flume]

https://tenor.com/view/marcus-marcus-the-worm-marcus-nah-nah-no-gif-13535366815124786096

You can solo them easy enough, rodin is more of a pain because of his tox nades

[languid jewel]

Allright allright just say skill issue

[pastel forge]

Skill issue

[balmy moat]

yeah solo is one thing, but if you have to deal with the twin and a bunch of stuff its a real check

[polar portal]

I found that a dedicated single target weapon works the best on twins.
More often than not people bring their general builds, which aren't amazing at dealing with bosses.

[balmy moat]

then you have a melee/gun psyker with an FGS as their general build

that sword absolutely fucks twins up

[clear plume]

Rinda is easy to solo

Its rodin that causes problems

Just the mines mainly

But his plasma can easily get you killed

[clear plume]

Los rodin, block rinda combo, extreme caution with the landmines

Also knowing their damage caps

Bubble is 50% and their HP is 20%

[rotund ermine]

did anyone suggest maps with mounted weapons ala Left 4 dead 1 and 2 having the gatling gun or M2 Browning but in the context of darktide heavy bolters in some corners or hallways?

I might suggest a map where we can use them while defending an objective

[fresh ocean]

What do people go off on deciding if you can join their havoc or not?

[stoic locust]

Idk

Magic

Most common answer is are you running the assumed meta for the class

[rotund ermine]

they sometimes forgot to make it private

[stoic locust]

Which usually doesn't match up with the actual meta for said class

[rotund ermine]

one time they asked me to leave because their friends are joining

thats the only time they gave me a explation

most just kick

[fresh ocean]

well i am and in some cases even if i match the level i get declined

[stoic locust]

What title/insignia/frame do you have

[fresh ocean]

green title, purple frame and yellow insignia

[stoic locust]

Yeah people murder you over that

Run reject as your title

[fresh ocean]

I think the quickest options for legendary anything is funnily havoc

[stoic locust]

Yeah

But reject works cause its the only gray title

[keen flume]

There's a better title than gray reject

Untitle

[fresh ocean]

I guess i gotta get 1 million kills for the legendary title

gonna be a while

[keen flume]

Don't even think that is gonna be quick to grind

[fresh ocean]

I already have like the hard penances for my class so i'd just have to fill in my title and frame

Man yeah that sucks. I've got really good so fast but the only thing holding me back is literally playtime

[clear plume]

yeah, many reason people decline others

who to say the actual reasons are

I decline psykers and taunt ogryns since they make the game boring

[fresh ocean]

dang so playstyles can literally get you declined

[clear plume]

yeah

thats why hosting is the best option

you decide who to bring

[fresh ocean]

yeah but unfortunately with my title and frame the same issue will apply

[stoic locust]

Its a sellers market

The number of hosts is vastly dwarfed by non hosts

[vocal nacelle]

a lot of things

basic ones would be class & loadout

elitist one would be your true level , title, frames

[timber ore]

random question. kinda liking the combat shotgun atm, whatcha think the best class is to run it/playstyle? 😛

[stoic locust]

Vet

[timber ore]

mostly playing poison hive scum or plasma gun veteran atm

[stoic locust]

Probably

[timber ore]

hmmkay

[stoic locust]

Run it with exe stance and weapon spec and play a nasty hybrid build

[timber ore]

everyone nags me to play laser lmao

hmm yeah that could be fun

[stoic locust]

Melee exe stance is real nice if you get the mod that makes your fov static

[vocal nacelle]

vet , arbites

[timber ore]

every time i play arbite i turn into melee bonksman

lol

[vocal nacelle]

i usually use terminus warrant when using shotgun

[timber ore]

i should use terminus warrant more, keep using the doggo andexecution order

[keen meteor]

I already am suspecting the answer, but what exactly can 500 aquilas from that one event buy?
Is it, in fact, nothing?
Is it, in fact, just meant to get me to buy maybe 200 more aquilas in order to actually be able to afford anything?

[fresh ocean]

You can get a trinket that you can attach to your weapon for 300

couple weapon skins that aren't too noticable

[keen meteor]

what???? you mean that this isn't just a thinly-veiled ploy to make me spend more actual money???
I'm SHOCKED. SHAKEN!!!

[fresh ocean]

Well in my personal opinion it probably still is

like who wants to buy a trinket for 300 over spending a little money on an actual cool weapon skin or something like that

[keen meteor]

oh, it absolutely is

[fresh ocean]

which ill actually give them some credit the prices aren't the worst thing ive ever seen

[azure perch]

anyone have any idea why my game keeps stuttering when hordes show up? on a 275hx and 5080 mobile and don't usually have problems with other games, but i keep getting stutters when set to 1080p medium, motion blur off, and no framegen/raytracing
also set to 8 worker threads so darktide only uses my p-cores but that hasn't helped

[vocal nacelle]

Update driver version or downgrade the driver version

[azure perch]

driver is fully up to date, can't really downgrade as gpu is new and old drivers really sucked for 50 series

[vocal nacelle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1povgnc/performance_a_collection_of_methods_to/?share_id=3L-Qbql31u3sBK8PLPEiR&utm_content=2&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_source=share&utm_term=13

[stray vine]

Burster just refusing to explode

Standing on top of me

[shadow skiff]

Oh, this is normal. One did that 4 karking times on h40.

[kind raven]

Thanks for the tip. We do usually find Rinda a little bit more troublesome, is there a way to maximise dps against her when ur left alone? Say you managed to split them for around 10 seconds and while Rodin is walking towards you. Any advice or just hit her while she's charging sword and hope for the best?

[stray vine]

Did someone already mention the melee/ranged attack bonus vs the different twins?

[vocal nacelle]

just beat rinda when she's alone

duelling sword, bolter magdump when shield broke,ogryn pickaxe and stuff

[kind raven]

Also yesterday we played a havoc 25 map yesterday on the bridge in the throneside discrict, first room after spawn we get leutenants + 2 bosses, we somehow manage to kill it all and didnt wipe and the rest of the map we were bombarded with daemonhosts it was like 2 or 3 hexbound daemonhosts and 4 (!!!) usual ones. Around halfway through the map there was a hexbound daemonhost with another daemonhost sleeping right next to it so we had to aggro and kill him before going for the hex one

[red beacon]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a07c16c1-4370-4657-9f6b-33e714ca67c5/reginalds-melee-build
Hi, any idea where to spend last point smart way in this build?

[eager flame]

Sticky Hands near the top will help you with accuracy on the dual pistols and to whip them out. If you aren't going to snipe much with pistols you could take In Your Face to help them burst down mid-range targets.

[clear plume]

You can always get damage in between all of her attacks besides the Combo move

[polar basin]

how do havoc missions work? what is the difference between playing havoc compared to auric/auric maelstrom?

[strange thunder]

they have a different set of modifiers that are unique to havoc

also a lot of hidden ones that scale with the havoc difficulty

they're all also hosted by someone, there's no matchmaking

[polar basin]

also how do the havoc ratings work. it automatically put me at 16 and i dont really know what that means

[strange thunder]

you normally start at 1, but can get a boost to 16 if you complete an auric maelstrom

[polar basin]

ah ok

[strange thunder]

ratings are the difficulty basically

here's more comprehensive info on the gamemode if you wanna read more details

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3375980903

[polar basin]

thank you 👍🏼

[onyx gale]

Hi! I have a very noob question. I see a lot of people talking about mods, some of them even defined as "essential". Aren't mods supposed to be bannable?

[clear plume]

no its not bannable

[strange thunder]

idt the first bullet point is even common ftr

it's just safeguarding

[onyx gale]

But isn't having mods that change stuff in the game considered cheating? It should be! I just red of mod removing fog in vent purge.

[strange thunder]

mods like that typically get removed from nexus

[onyx gale]

I was considering the mod everyone talks about, the one changing your hud.

[strange thunder]

if FS has problems with it

if a mod has existed for quite some time it's not considered to be cheating by FS

even if it's technically affecting how ppl play the game

majority of mods are just simple QoL tho

[onyx gale]

So the one enhancing the HUD is ok?

[strange thunder]

if you've seen a mod

there's a 99% chance it's not deemed cheating

[onyx gale]

Is the one every streamer uses basically, paired with the one that let you see stats of other player

[strange thunder]

because you generally don't find random new mods that stay long enough if they are

again, if you see a mod being used and it's not a few days old

it is fine

[onyx gale]

Ok

Thank you for the help

[smoky ember]

technically yes, they usually get removed from nexus though

but a vast majority of the mods on nexus are totally okay

[fresh ocean]

where is the penance that requires 15 malice games won without dying? I can't find it

nvm i found it. Just stuggling on the "challenge" because its boring not actually hard

not to mention on the rarity that i do go down teammates on malice are often unaware of practically anything

what would be the fastest map for this apart from twins?

[stoic locust]

Rolling steel

I would not recommend 15 games of rolling steel malice

[faint perch]

It's easier to do a lot of penances with a team that know you're doing the penance, rather than randoms

[keen flume]

You are better to play the game normally as well

As you get further experience you will get to complete the penance without even noticing

That's how I did that penance and Auric Exemplar title

[thick acorn]

does chemical dependency trigger with stimm supply as well?

[little coyote]

Yes

On release it didn't but it was patched in

[tame anchor]

why are these veterans not running the ammo/med full restore

i keep thinking we gonna get all our grenades and corruption healed

and its like... nah

[stoic locust]

Its really situational and doesn't get used most missions so I just don't run it

[tame anchor]

whats it competing against?

[stoic locust]

I would rather take the like 20k damage in bleed from serrated

[tame anchor]

restoring like 6 rockets to your etammates is more than that

20k dmg over how much

[stoic locust]

A match

[stoic locust]

Situational

And doesn't happen often

[thick acorn]

does needle work on shield?

the human bosses/captains

[stoic locust]

No

[thick acorn]

oof

[rotund ermine]

one last double check

1.) Did anyone suggest melee future weapons combo thats exclusively AOE or Wide attacks and no single target combos
2.)Anyone suggets maps that includes Fixed Heavy Bolter emplacements with limited ammo?

[vocal nacelle]

1 would suck

for 2 #veteran-class message

[torn cargo]

Do damage reduction nodes affect toughness damage reduction as well?

[dapper shard]

Typically yes

[rotund ermine]

thanks

[last mauve]

if you mean doing damage to it, then yeah

just like soulblaze and burn it damages shield, bleed damages hp through shield

[void forge]

According to kuli's guide it's Adm vs void shields is 0.1, so it does only 10% damage

Better off just hitting it in melee

[hoary fox]

Can someone help me understand the Light Attack and Heavy attack attack chains?

I don't get if there is any kind of combo like "LA, HA, LA"

)Or if it shows what happen when you spam

[smoky ember]

what do you mean?

theres the weapon inspect where you can see the light and heavy attack damage values

but otherwise just take the weapon into the psykanium and mess around with it

[hoary fox]

I mean if there are set combos, where a variation of Light and Heavy attacks in a specific order does something different

When you inspect it shows the chain attacks, which I assumed were these combos, but it seems like I was wrong

[balmy moat]

there are different attacks yes, depending on the weapon they do different things, and can sometimes access attacks you wouldnt get to by spamming

idk if i have the psyker FGS flowchart on mobile

found it. this shows the attack patterns of both FGS marks, as an example

[thick acorn]

with this setup and shivs, should i be spamming lights or heavies in a horde?

[keen flume]

What mark be using?

[honest sequoia]

lights for little guys, and heavy's for ragers, etc. and it would make it even better if you have hyper critical in your talents

[rotund ermine]

Heavy Attacks for Elites like Crushers, Maulers and Bulwarks

You can spam light combos on scab shooters, gunners and etc

[languid jewel]

With rampage on i just lightspam everything to death while teleporting across the map with those silly big dodges

[copper quiver]

hey does anyone know why mods are crashing my game? the hive scum update messed something up for me

[vocal nacelle]

did you update your mods

[copper quiver]

yes tried twice

[smoky ember]

have you updated framework

and modloader

[vocal nacelle]

as in updating the file not just clicking bat file to activate

[copper quiver]

ya i deleted everything and then reinstalled twice

[vocal nacelle]

if you have scoreboard you need the new version in the modding discord

[copper quiver]

mmm

thank you

and where be that?

[vocal nacelle]

#📌communities message

[young raft]

hellooo hiii, can someone help me get the cliffhanger achievement? im sorta alone atm and cant do a private match and had no luck so far

[red ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-hop-on-warhammer40k-gif-27317382

[young raft]

you beautiful beautiful man.

https://tenor.com/view/crying-one-piece-anime-gif-4502646032764566609

im in strike team 12

[red ginkgo]

can't join vc sorry

[young raft]

thats cool!

GOD BLESS

[kind raven]

@clear plume Sorry for pinging, but my friend was wondering what's better for true solo Arbites, tac axe or his shock maul?

[smoky ember]

taxe for mobility probably

[rotund ermine]

Shock maul for me due to crowd control via stagger

[clear plume]

Probably ASM by a slim margin

[clear plume]

But they both have pros and cons

[toxic crow]

Any tip for the twins? I've tried them several times and just can't. The bots are horrible at handling anything thicker than a toothpick.

New player

[strange thunder]

I wouldn't bother with them early if all you're getting is bot teammates

[toxic crow]

Yeah i rarely match players.

Fair enough then, I'll spam quickplay or something.

[clear plume]

1: ignore that mission or beat it on the lowest difficulty.
2: Look for a group on this server to get a team
3: Play other mission and get max level/gear and come back with more experience

[kind raven]

Ty for the answer. I suppose t axe has more mobility and single target dps over shock maul's crowd control?

[clear plume]

ASM has unnecessarily high ADMs to flak and carapace and probably has more cleave then Taxe without BM. The downside is the less mobility in dodges and the low unyielding damage which is where taxe plays better

So I'd say context for what difficulty matters for determining "the best"

Auric or a non monster maelstrom probably ASM

Havoc or monster maelstrom probably Taxe

[kind raven]

Alright, thank you for the answer

[kind raven]

speaking of which, where do you think arbites shield & maul stand? Is it competitive enough in terms of damage compared to these two?

[clear plume]

Slower and does less damage then ASM

Not competitive in any way outside that it can be used to block ranged

And I guess the special too

[warm cargo]

Quick clarification help need here.
Been searching some info about
Zealot's flamethrower burn DoT stacks and Psyker's soulblaze DoT interaction.

Do they apply separately each other to one entity, or just added up each other as a one DoT. (*i.g 1, burn 16 + soulblaze 16 or i.g 2, burn + soulblaze total up to 16)

[clear plume]

soulblaze and burn are different dots

they dont interact with each other

you can have 31 of each on 1 targer

(I think 31 is cap, I forgot the exact number)

[warm cargo]

they do seem to have 16 stacks max each

but, in system in game, they do show up as 15

[clear plume]

it depends on the source of whats applying them

[void forge]

soulblaze cap is 31, but the staff has a different cap

[clear plume]

but overall the dots cant go past 31

ever

[warm cargo]

I see

[clear plume]

man... whats with adding broken dots

....

tox

[warm cargo]

linear line

[warm cargo]

can i get the link for this guide please?

thank you sir.

[clear plume]

you can use this or search for Kuli on steam guides

Kuli is alot more code based with no bias

very straight forward

[void forge]

I think burn shriek and PC are the only sources of soulblaze which can get you up to 31

[clear plume]

not saying path isnt.

[warm cargo]

I do acknowlege the way that Psyker can apply more soulblaze stack that beyond its staff (16 max). But how do I apply more burn that beyond 16 with Zealot?

flame nade perhaps?

[clear plume]

with just zealot you cant

they have 1 way to apply burn

ranged weapon

but with 3 different soruces you could

zealot flamer, Infernus on a las weapon, and ogryn burn on the gun ability

[warm cargo]

ahh, gotcha. thank you for the help. I appreciate a lot.

[void forge]

til rocket back blast applies burn

lmao

[clear plume]

oh yeah that

Appreantly that was a playtester thing

talked with a few

its funny

[warm cargo]

you mean, Scum's doombringer?

[clear plume]

yes

[void forge]

yes

[warm cargo]

omg xD

[clear plume]

it has a backblast that applies 1 stack of burn and like 100 damage

something like that

[warm cargo]

lwl

[void forge]

it would be funny if it did friendly fire like a barrel

[clear plume]

"• Missile backblast: after charging the shot, releases a shout at Hive Scum's location when the projectile is fired; against enemies who are within 6m inside a 120° angle behind Hive Scum, deals 100 base damage with average armor damage modifiers across the board, applies 1 stack of burn, and deals very high suppression as well as high stagger"

100 base damage and 1 burn

and suppression and stagger

[pastel forge]

inb4 using the backblast to suppress gunners instead of killing them with the rocket

[long citrus]

Is this the channel / place to request help for penance?

[pastel forge]

lfg channels

[long citrus]

Thank you, appreciate it.

[kind raven]

can horde exhaustion in havoc imply that the amount of hordes is limited? Can blockade hordes be exhausted? And how much does the horde count refill, and is it more beneficial to just exhaust hordes all the time?

[shadow skiff]

Hordes do not exhaust like they do on uprising to damnation. There's always a ticking clock to a random horde spawn.

[quaint jacinth]

what is auric exactly? i thought it's just the name of the last difficulty
i got a penance for completing a mission "on Heresy thread on the Auric Mission board"

[little coyote]

Auric used to be a separate modifier for either Heresy or Damnation difficulties, now it's it's own difficulty

[void forge]

auric used to be like a seperate mission board which had only heresy-damnation missions. It added a hidden modifier which increased hordes and special/elite spawns, and the auric board never had low int missions. they have since changed auric to be its own difficulty

[quaint jacinth]

so that penance is an old leftover

[void forge]

yep

[strange thunder]

yeah and they also gave auric the same type of horde spawns that havoc has, being timing based instead of how far you've traveled across the map

[toxic crow]

I've completed multiple diff 3 missions so far comfortably yet i cant beat these damn twins on diff 1. Any tips on the fight itself?

I heard that the ranged one takes extra melee damage and vice versa is that true?

[strange thunder]

it's not easy to do with similarly leveled or experienced players

you're usually best off getting carried and learning through that

[toxic crow]

I can't find players in general and the bots never make it into the arena cause they bug out on the elevator. So more often than not I'm true solo in it.

[strange thunder]

otherwise you unfortunately are just hitting a wall over and over

[toxic crow]

Yeah ill just level up more or something idk

[strange thunder]

but yeah it's been a problem ever since it was introduced, before it had its own matchmaking area that was very desolate and was more likely even more dead than it is now

[vocal nacelle]

what class

its a skip on vet/psyker
doable solo if you use ogryn/zealot/arbites

havent tried hivescum

[toxic crow]

Veteran

[strange thunder]

for newer players you prob want ogryn or something that can tank and get toughness back by just hitting them in melee

[vocal nacelle]

#vox-lfg-lexicanum find someone

[toxic crow]

I can do it I've gotten so close.

[vocal nacelle]

i can help if you are on APAC

[toxic crow]

Don't really wanna swap class yet

Whats apac?

[vocal nacelle]

asia pacific

[strange thunder]

understandable, just know that you're not getting through it on the easiest difficulty most likely

[toxic crow]

Where do i look at my server?

[strange thunder]

since there's worse players there compared to higher ones

[toxic crow]

That should be me tho im aussie

[vocal nacelle]

thats apac

[strange thunder]

yeah

[toxic crow]

That makes sense

[toxic crow]

Yeah gotcha

[vocal nacelle]

sooo want help now?

[toxic crow]

Can do if it ain't a bother

I can always solo it another day lmao

[vocal nacelle]

sure, quick run before sleep

need FS code

[toxic crow]

5900724421

[toxic crow]

Bristly you're a legend

[rotund ermine]

need opinions and I might post it soon

I have some plans to give suggestions or feedback regarding levels for Dukane campaign that encourages to use Fixed weapons emplacements that were used heavy weapons models. It revolves around the more we fight dregs and scab strongholds is the moment we would encounter bunkers with those types of weapons. I am thinking we could use heavy weapons as a objective to capture and use against the heretics or its just props we can use to clear sections of a map

[pastel forge]

Or

Hear me out

We get them as new weapons

[rotund ermine]

true for ogryns

[dense tulip]

I won't lie, chief, I don't think that'll ever happen. I'd love for it to happen, but in my opinion, Fatshark are very peculiar about the type of gameplay loop they want players to have, and such emplacements would kinda stick out from the curated experience that we currently have. I'd love to be proven wrong on that, though

[craggy minnow]

An emplacement encourages not moving and if you don't have 4 you get friction from people fighting over them

You could maybe engineer a defense section that ends with your emplacements getting destroyed

Something similar in concept to the fart room halfway through orthrus

You want to do everything in your power to discourage not advancing when its time to advance though

[rotund ermine]

alright and thanks for the feedback

[craggy minnow]

You could also do some emplacements while part of the team does objectives like the syncronistors on interzone void but i doubt that would coordinate well since i've never seen a team try and reset the things without them burning out lol

[dense tulip]

it could be similar in nature to other minigames. We could, for example, use lascannon emplacement to get rid off some super touch corruptor tendrils by shooting them in a correct order or something like that

[sturdy thunder]

any tips on what to do in havoc, when the heinous ritual modifier is on, and one starts channeling, but is too far ahead to be done anything about? (ie. on the other side of a wall after an event/boss/point thingy)

[balmy moat]

if you KNOW she is going to spawn, she will go for the person furthest away first

[shadow skiff]

Have the best tank run behind to aggro.

[balmy moat]

this should be your tank, or someone who knows how to kite her around

[sturdy thunder]

that's actually really helpful

given im a big guy

thank you guys

[balmy moat]

godspeed

[lost smelt]

Theoretically, could I achive this by just standing AFK at escape ship just popping stims?

[balmy moat]

yeah, though your team might get annoyed so definitely do it with a friend in a private match or you risk getting votekicked lol

[lost smelt]

Okay, I was just not sure how game calculate the progress. As with the toughness one I had to actually be missing toughness for it to count as progress :p

[balmy moat]

yeah thats the only one that actually requires effort far as im aware

[shadow skiff]

Just start an uprising mortis trial in a dead server.

[lost smelt]

I only have the one mentioned above and this one left

[balmy moat]

use taxe

[shadow skiff]

If you really don't wanna piss off randoms.

[lost smelt]

So I am thinking I just get the first one in due time through normal gameplay and I can "farm" the second one by using level 1 stims with short cooldown

[balmy moat]

well it does need 50% viscosity

[lost smelt]

The heavy attack one?

[balmy moat]

the attack speed one

[lost smelt]

Yeah

[balmy moat]

oh you mean farm the heavy attack one

yeah that'd work too

15s stim, 15s cooldown

[shadow skiff]

Could do both at once. 50% and just spam.

Then change depending on which complete's first.

[craggy minnow]

That's what i did

Play right keystone and you'll live on stims anyway

[quick remnant]

Emplacement weapons in our hand would probably not work due to the Ogryn.
Having the Ogryn instead get some heavy weapons as normal weapon sure.
But in mission pickable won't happen cause they're a mess to balance and cause people to just rush for the weapons

[lofty bough]

this makes me wanna die

use like

mk3 shivs

[rotund ermine]

thanks

[thick arrow]

theoretical if one was to crash every time i play a havoc mission with the blight spreads modifier what would be the theroetical fix? ? ?

[runic mantle]

Where is roadmap?

[hasty pagoda]

nowhere

[runic mantle]

Where?

[timber ore]

hmm kinda feel like using the semi auto vigilant autogun. what class ya think?

[fickle ether]

There are mods that can help with performance not sure if it'll prevent crashes but I'm sure it couldnt hurt to try I havent had any crashes in along time out side of the rare no memory. https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/678 and https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/521

[vocal nacelle]

exe stance vet with marksman keystone

[timber ore]

hmmkay, was also considering a weird hivescum build lol

vets defo better idea i think

[vocal nacelle]

can still do it, hivescum high crit can boost it a lot

and you are immune to ranged

[timber ore]

yeah, was thinking stim supplyandvultures mark lol

also who dosnt love a rocket launcher

[vocal nacelle]

vet is harder

[timber ore]

true, i usually crutch my vet with the shout too lol

vultures mark or chem dependancy would be the question

[shadow skiff]

Mark is more op if you chase kills. The other lets you spam desperado/rampage without care if you do 1 node stim.

Never go chem dependency on supply, it's kinda conflicting and ends up pretty meh.

[molten raven]

Does hex daemonhost have a damage cap like the twins for Havoc?

[shadow skiff]

You can Thammer them normally. Only diff is they will kill all 4 players instead of scoot off after 1.

[molten raven]

Wooops, I meant with the thunder hammer dmg cap.

[shadow skiff]

There's no gate, if you do enough, they die. I don't remember breakpoint though.

[molten raven]

Weird, Whenther I try to one tap them They normally dont take that substantial dmg, and I also heard Twins have a dmg cap on them to, to prevent 1-taps.

[shadow skiff]

Is still easier to try and kill the ritual.

[molten raven]

Yeah, though. This is for worse case scenarios.

[shadow skiff]

I dunno, I saw oggy two shot, but said oggy 2 shotted everything so I assumed just not enough damage for one.

Because you can totally one shot a burgle.

[molten raven]

Yeah, thats why I mentioned Hex Host. I know Twins cant be one shotted.

The Captains and other Monsts can.

[shadow skiff]

I think is just hard to hit back of head due to movement.

[molten raven]

If its the Sword then maybe, Plasma not so much.

[shadow skiff]

Thammer one shot is highly reliant on it and DH is stupidly annoying to hit precisely once woken up.

[molten raven]

Yeah facts.

[shadow skiff]

You whiff, there goes most of the damage, heh.

[molten raven]

Know them feels

[shadow skiff]

Hard to test, but I'm pretty sure they just work like the normal DH just with a multiple kill limit.

[molten raven]

Fair point

[vocal nacelle]

Feels like there's some change

There's dmg cap on captain but no cap on twins

[molten raven]

Weird, I still one tap captains but not twins

[vocal nacelle]

this is captain

twins

[shadow skiff]

Who was it they summon for such info...

[molten raven]

How recent was this?

[vocal nacelle]

kuli

maybe TH ignore it, the damage is bigger than the whole health pool

captain health

[shadow skiff]

Maybe just FS jank coding at play.

[clear plume]

So what's the question?

[shadow skiff]

Can you 1 tap ritual DH.

[clear plume]

Yeah

I did with relic blade

[shadow skiff]

Or is there a damage gate/cap.

[clear plume]

Nope

[vocal nacelle]

any dmg cap on DH, twins, captain

[clear plume]

Only bosses that have damage cap on their HP is twins

At 20%

[molten raven]

More like Hex D-host

Is more on my question

[vocal nacelle]

wait now im confused

[strange thunder]

twins should just be death by a thousand cuts anyway

since their shields don't warrant one-shots

[vocal nacelle]

oh nvm there's this

[molten raven]

I know twins got a cap ut hex hosts is different.

Dont know if they follow the same rules as standard host

[strange thunder]

beside how many they target before they leave, they should

[shadow skiff]

Ainz just said they work like normal DH, so you might have just whiffed it.

[vocal nacelle]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3568035743

[strange thunder]

not sure about their health tho

[clear plume]

Their weakspot is finicky

[molten raven]

Fair point

[clear plume]

Plus their model breaks and they go under the ground

[molten raven]

lmfao the classics

[strange thunder]

yeah I've barely seen anyone one-tap it once they're up and running

[vocal nacelle]

you miss 1 cm and hit the body/arm

[molten raven]

link source, I WANT IT

[strange thunder]

easier to hit backstabs than heads

[shadow skiff]

Thus, I assumed a whiff.

[molten raven]

[vocal nacelle]

@molten raven

[molten raven]

Blind as a bat

Thanks

[tame anchor]

dunno why, but smelter with specialist waves - the beginning section where you go topside.. has been such a pain

bombers just pelting constantly, snipers in the distance, bursters knocking you downstairs

[keen flume]

Just dont go up floor

I legit never go that way, it is a death sentence and the lower floor is far more safer, the amount of times I saw people be reckless and die

[tame anchor]

finally we won

vs 22k exp maelstrom too

took underground on phase 1

was hard still, monstrosity spam, all scabs so tons of snipers, last phase was the wack a mole 3 location one

[thick acorn]

does surge crit 2x projectiles work on voidstrike alt fire?

[clear plume]

Yes

[tame anchor]

how do some classes like hive scum seem to run around impervious to gunners

and it doesnt seem to be desperado

[tame anchor]

oh

what about zealots making clutch plays

im struggling to chain slides in the same way as melee psyker

[rotund ermine]

Its attack speed builds or crit damage builds

Kill as many chaffs to regain health and repeat

[little coyote]

I can't really say much about zealot builds, haven't played it in like a year

[languid jewel]

Tis but a scratch

That ability and gunner res curios

[strange thunder]

slide under gunfire, don't slide under nets

zealot just has a lot of good dodge talents

you should slide like you're dodging everything on any class, even ogryn

[marble pecan]

CAIUS?

[tame anchor]

ogryn slide makes me sad

[marble pecan]

sorry hit of nostalgia

[marble pecan]

them cheeks aint made to slide

[languid jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/here-is-your-first-quest-first-quest-rpg-morrowind-elder-scrolls-gif-8830172719642648765

[strange thunder]

you're big but you can just slide in to trash mobs

[marble pecan]

you should be able to slide over them and crush em with them cheeks

at least trash mobs

i was trying to find a perfect gif

https://tenor.com/view/взгляд-2000-ярдов-война-war-soldier-gif-3632617944134077161

[strange thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-ogryn-slide-crouch-drennt-gif-16208176206711016442

[gilded wing]

Ogryn with anti grav

[tame anchor]

SSBM wave dash

[novel carbon]

Do you have to beat a havoc weekly to get rewards or can I just play one and lose?

[strange thunder]

weekly

you have to win

[fast meteor]

So its been over a year since I've played. I've come back to this game and have found two things. First, the improvements are great. Second, I'm more than rusty, I just suck on Damnation and above.

Someone said that there are new mechanics on the higher difficulties. Can anyone tell me what they are?

[novel carbon]

ah thanks

[polar forum]

auric is just one intensity level above damnation

more spawns basically

havoc is a whole different can of worms

[dense tulip]

you probably refer to Havoc, in that case this guide should be of help https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3375980903&searchtext=havoc

[bold vigil]

I keep getting tunnel vision, how do I prevent that?

[vocal nacelle]

play ogryn

[bold vigil]

But I'm scum! I love my speed! 😭

[patent jasper]

Get a friend to scream at you anytime something gets behind you

[bold vigil]

I don't have friends 😭

[rotund ermine]

audio cues and always keep with the team

I always like stay behind and listen if there are enemies about to flank me

[bold vigil]

I play damnation, not staying with the team is my last flaw

[rotund ermine]

you can practice pal just stick with the team. You can do it

[bold vigil]

Last game I played, a captain spawn made me skittish and focus him while my team left to take care of hexbound demon I didn't notice

[rotund ermine]

shitty spawn location daemonhost?

[bold vigil]

I've lost a game because of 2 in a row in the middle of a horde

but no, just hexbound on havoc

[rotund ermine]

ah ok

[fast meteor]

I haven't seen a Daemonhlst since I came back to the game. Are they relegated to Auric now or somewhere else?

[polar forum]

i think they show up later in the difficulty levels now but they are def still there

[rotund ermine]

iirc lower difficulties there are no daemon host

I think around damnation and auric you would see those

[winged apex]

in havoc is it the same as regular missions or do i need to actually setup a 4 man to play it

[clear plume]

need atleast 2 people to queue the mission

[winged apex]

ohh

im looking thru the lobby and like

how common are there lobbies for new havoc players

[rotund ermine]

depends

Because usually new havocs are setup when the game has discounts

but after that its high level havocs

[clear plume]

depends on rank

anything below rank 20 is less then auric difficulty

0-10 is honestly probably heresy difficulty with added modifers

[winged apex]

makes sense to why it felt easier playing on 1

basically i wont be able to find anyone in that range of 1-10

[gilded wing]

I can tell you the demon host does spawn on lower difficulties, jumped on top of one on malign

Scared the s out of me

[fickle ether]

It can spawn on any difficulty just gets more rare the lower you play

[balmy moat]

plus malice wound count

(3 base instead of 2 base)

[lost smelt]

Does Melk serve any gameplay purpose for someone who is sitting on a bunch of resources?

Like if there is ever a time I want to get a new weapon I can just buy from Brunt and upgrade it at Hadron, with more min maxed stats than what Melk normaly offer as I can just keep on buying at Brunt untill I get the stat spread I want.

[keen flume]

Curio gamble only

[lost smelt]

And the best ones are the 410power with 3 stamina?

iirc I read something about 400power 3stamina is not actually 3 stamina or something

[shadow skiff]

Yeah, 410+ for +3 stam. Otherwise look for 17% toughness, 21% hp.

[lost smelt]

Okay, so the power level only matters for stamina?

[shadow skiff]

Yep.

[strange thunder]

I've gambled away all of my melk bucks on curios, downside of making so many characters lol

[lost smelt]

Are health rolls good? Most if not all guides I've seen pretty much just recommend toughness or stamina and in some rare cases wound

[strange thunder]

power level matters for health and toughness too, but they give what they show in terms of percentages

[vocal nacelle]

Get at least 1 health

[shadow skiff]

For ganger, psyker and vet maybe. Is to help them not be 1 shotted.

[strange thunder]

it depends on what you're going for and how much you can keep toughness up

I would go for the resist stuff in curios over a health one tho

like sniper or gunner resist

[shadow skiff]

The other classes naturally have enough hp to be optional.

Is really more a havoc thing.

[strange thunder]

yup

[shadow skiff]

To prevent a burster from 1 tapping you to death.

[strange thunder]

since penalties scale differently for hp and toughness

[shadow skiff]

Considering how bs bursters curently are due to things.

[lost smelt]

So a 2wound with 21% health would be better than 3 wounds on these classes?

[strange thunder]

well, no

[shadow skiff]

0 wounds.

[strange thunder]

wounds are only relevant for martyrdom zealot

[shadow skiff]

1 stam, 1 tough, 1 hp or 2 tough, 1 hp.

[strange thunder]

or 3 toughness if the class allows

I would run 1 stamina on almost all vets at least

[shadow skiff]

This is more for the tankier 3 classes just for your info. Though zealots may just run 1 stam 2 tough.

If not martyrdom.

[strange thunder]

this game is very intuitive as you can tell

[faint perch]

unless they are going fatmangus

[lost smelt]

So on Ogryn, 2health and 1stamina is good?

[faint perch]

then 2 or 3 hp

[strange thunder]

I would go all toughness on ogryn

[shadow skiff]

I hate how I did the 2 hp and 3 hp subnodes thing first but only got mockery.

[strange thunder]

stamina pool is big already and doesn't replenish that fast, so better to have that saved up since there's talents that work on high stamina remaining

[shadow skiff]

Then this guy does it and get praised to heck.

[strange thunder]

and health is already big and you got 3 wounds naturally

200+ toughness on ogryn is very nice

[faint perch]

i kinda feel like we all have our own playstyle. with time and experimentation we get to know what keeps us alive longest

[shadow skiff]

And yes, 3x corruption resist as well.

[lost smelt]

That is what I was thinking, due to the high base health, would not the percentage increase be more value on ogryn?

[strange thunder]

how new is fatmangus, I just heard about it the other day and tried it out

[shadow skiff]

Is still annoying. I was running it since when havoc first released as well.

[strange thunder]

yes, but health tanking isn't always ideal

[faint perch]

i tried it, but to be honest, the only thing i kept from it was relic blade and 2 HP curios

[strange thunder]

I ran out of melk bucks to get more 21% HP and ended up with 4 of 17% toughness instead

[shadow skiff]

Oh, I know. I went more into book, a hilariously suspect book build with 55 toughness and 245 hp.

[strange thunder]

revive zealot was already in my playstyle, I just wasn't used to mk2 relic blade

[shadow skiff]

Yeah, I take it into h40. Have always done so.

[faint perch]

usually I used book, but recently I'm seeing the benefit of shroud. Helps so much with taking out snipers etc

[shadow skiff]

Lets me eat an overhead without absolutely dying.

45% of hp bar in corruption? Not 50% so neener.

[faint perch]

yeah. I thought I was going to miss being able to parry, but the charged attacks seem to work really well

[shadow skiff]

I mean, don't need to parry if dead.

Is just safer if you are running about at 300 ping and everything is sketch.

[faint perch]

exactly. I used parry so long because it helped with carrying, but it turns out I can revive well with shroud

plus 36% revive speed on curios

[shadow skiff]

Yep. Just gotta keep the CD in mind, you technically don't need revive speed, but you will spend all the invis to pick up.

[faint perch]

with the team I often play with, half the match is reviving lol

[shadow skiff]

I play with like one other so got used to either 2 bots or up to 2 lemmings.

[faint perch]

One of the people I play with is starting to become pretty good, which helps. I really need to either find new players to join our friends group, or bring more friends into Darktide

[shadow skiff]

Likely latter. Lul.

[faint perch]

kinda the safest option

[shadow skiff]

Mhm.

[lost smelt]

How viable would it be to run 3 stamina on hive scum for attack speed via stamina talent?

[faint perch]

that's what I run. It's kinda fun. Most missions I barely get hit

[shadow skiff]

Funni, but bad idea in actual havocs.

[keen flume]

It is good tbh

One or two 3+ stamina curios for scum is really fun, one is more than enough but two makes it far more fun to use

[proper ridge]

Should I care about keeping lower level items if they have good stats like nearly all 80s? or just wait till 30 and roll on grey items for it?

[clear plume]

Up to you

Imo, use the emperor gift weapons that you get at end of mission

Then at 30 roll of the best weapon

[proper ridge]

kk I just wasnt sure if I should fodder the rest of the weps

or keep them like .. is it expensive to empower a lower level wep to get up to level 30 stats if it had say perfect stats\

[clear plume]

I honestly don't know

I haven't looked at the material cost in years

I have millions of each resource

[proper ridge]

i wont worry about it much then

[tame anchor]

are gunners unable to hit you if you run at a certain speed or something?

I feel like ive seen knife veterans sprint sprint so fast ast the last person alive that they seem to be avoiding damage

[void forge]

if you are sprinting perpendicular to a ranged enemy with sufficient stamina you dodge their shots

#hivescum-class message

[tame anchor]

is there a mission that guarantees dregs?

[balmy moat]

if you get any ones with 76 on all stats tho hold onto those

you might not want them now but you might later

the higher your level the harder it is to get those

[balmy moat]

also, the lower its power level, the more expensive overall it would be to level to max, and waiting until 30 will allow you to get weapons that are already a higher power level, therefore being cheaper

but if you have one thats perfect, there isnt much harm in spending the extra to max it out, if you dont mind a little extra resource grinding

[tame anchor]

whats the advantage ofthat

[balmy moat]

the cheapest method to upgrading as well is, replace perks and blessings first, then empower, rather than empowering first and replacing perks/blessings after

[balmy moat]

its less advantage and more just, fun stuff

i have a 3rd main psyker with mostly pure 76ers in her arsenal, just cool

its like getting a warp resistance of 0 on an FGS, it doesnt actually matter that much below30 warp res, but its cool

[tame anchor]

the hell, i reached 750/750 in mission, but its not showing in morningstar

[balmy moat]

define not showing

[tame anchor]

shows not complete, shows old dreg kills

[balmy moat]

odd

[tame anchor]

640/750

[balmy moat]

enter psyk and exit?

or, just initiate a loading screen of some sort

[tame anchor]

k

nope lost it, new contracts now how lame

[balmy moat]

oof

[tame anchor]

sigh

aw well, i guess not a huge deal

[balmy moat]

not really but still sucks a bit xD

[tame anchor]

specially since my last hour was spent on uprising hacking garbage

not doing that again

with fatshark servers

[balmy moat]

what region are you

[tame anchor]

NA

[balmy moat]

east?

[tame anchor]

west

[balmy moat]

odd

i know east has issues

i dont play west enough to know

[tame anchor]

at least i get my havoc loot

ive never gotten 16 scriptures

ahhhhhh

rotten armor

and cranial

[strange thunder]

just always reroll that, not worth the time spent

[tame anchor]

ya never seen the point of trying