gameplay-help

[south rose]

What do I do with the extra points?

[kindred inlet]

nothing, that's just how it is for now. fatshark's fault

[zealous dome]

https://tenor.com/view/the-labyrinth-david-bowie-spheres-sad-gif-14173793

Juggle them gold mastery orbs around

[keen oracle]

Suffer because that notification is there until fixes it (forever)

[velvet quiver]

It's a bug they haven't decided to fix (but are aware of) ever since the blessings rework. You can counter it with the "NothingNew" mod, it was driving me crazy so I made it shut up via the mod 😄

[slow bough]

fucking love labyrinth

so gay for bowie

[torn wigeon]

question on havoc assignment ranks - I noticed that every start of a new week I'll 'decay' to a lower rank and due to my work schedule I'll sometimes go a week without being able to find a team and progress (I have a swing shift and not many people are up in the wee morning 🙃) - if I were to pause on the game for a while, will that rank continue to decay for every consecutive week I don't play? or is there a limit to it?

[late valley]

Every week it decays by 1

[wheat night]

Your assignment decays by 1 per week but your highest completed (number that other players see) doesn't. If you succeed in a higher rated mission of another player than your current assignment, you will get that rating at next reset

[warm gyro]

Hey, question about the meat grinder area. I don't have all of the enemies in there, like the daemonhost. Yet, I've killed every enemy, and have all the penances related to killing special enemies

[fickle ether]

Bosses such as Plague Orgyn, Chaos Spawn, Beast of Nurgle, Deamon Host, Captain and Twin(s) won't spawn in the meat grinder without the use of mods. Don't ask me why I'm not a dev. You also won't see event enemies like the Moebian 21st in there either.

[warm gyro]

Ok, that answers that. But, it feels a bit empty, like I'm missing something, since there is a gap between the ogryn enemies

[fickle ether]

Could be space for new enemies if they ever add anymore to the base game. Like how the tox bomber you can find in there after it was added as a addition to the base roster.

[warm gyro]

Ok, that makes sense. Thx for the answer

[wicked talon]

Should i go for 45% corruption resistance on my melee psyker or stick with dmg res vs gunners? im running all 3 curio's with thoughness % and combat ability regen %

[smoky ember]

thats just where the exit is

that blue haze is how you can leave

[fickle ether]

Really don't ever need corruption dmg res unless your farming grims. Keep it to gunners

Some people use it for havoc but if you got a beacon zealot on your team you'll be find just don't stand in the bloody green goo

[crimson swift]

If you master 1 weapon, do all others of the same category get the mastery and increased power? Or just that 1 weapon you empowered?

[smoky ember]

mastery is shared between weapon families

but not empowering

also, mastery is shared between classes

so mastering heavy sword on zealot will master it on vet as well

[fickle ether]

All of them gain the exp as their the same weapon family. You can also freely change the weapons mark (If it has one) whenever you want aswell

[crimson swift]

Thanks appreciated!

[short gazelle]

whats the best mission/difficulty for dia farming

or do havocs give a lot?

[vocal nacelle]

havoc 40 give 20K if you can finish it

or just run normal damnation you get 200 ish

[short gazelle]

tfw you jump down at the start of a mission and a daemonhost is literally right there but not spawned in

and you wake it up because bad rendering and scam placement

[wintry elm]

Is anyone looking to complete the "Bells Challange" in the special assigment? I would like to get the penance for my “no melee damage” for Veteran.

[gloomy acorn]

anyone know of a bug on mercantile that wont let u pick skull up?

[lofty widget]

Quick question, does the Havoc assignement count for all characters ? Ty 🙂

[smoky ember]

yes

[warm elk]

🤔

do trappers/dogs sometimes despawn if you have a big hoard on you and you're alone

ive had it happen a few times where i miss out on killing a trapper while trying to clutch and theyre never heard from again

[keen oracle]

Sometimes they run away out of the playable area. I don't know if they come back later or if it's a different trapper

[warm elk]

they should always come back but i feel like they dont if you have a big enough hoard on you

[gritty sigil]

Which mission is best for dreg numbers for weekly quest requirement (kill 1000 dregs)?

[warm elk]

its random same mission can get dregs scabs or a mix

[gritty sigil]

Damn. Good to know

[warm elk]

unethical life tip just leave the mission if you dont find scab chaff by the first room

or if you wanna contractmaxx find someone willing to speed run with you and do some private games

[gritty sigil]

I don’t like being a deusch and abandon a group to the horrors of bots

[warm elk]

🚬 i used to do that with people in the olden times before the crafting update

you can speed run twins on uprising pretty easily itll get you mission completion+no deaths+monster kills

other two can be plasteel and diamantine

[gritty sigil]

Yeah. More enemies in the harder difficulties though, right?

[warm elk]

yeah if you wanna do the enemy kill ones higher threat levels are better

[gritty sigil]

I also prefer getting the payout of harder difficulties

I have poor hand eye coordination. Does anyone have any tips for ‘getting gud’ with melee blocking? The enemies strike too fast for me to react.

[warm elk]

itll get better with time

[gritty sigil]

Well, since its so hard for me to successfully use, I tend to not use it at all

[warm elk]

the game does a pisspoor job of teaching you melee its fine

[gritty sigil]

Challenge: don’t block on Heresy. Kinda difficult to not die quickly

[warm elk]

youll just get a feel for it as you play

good rule of thumb is dodge what you can and block what you cant

[gritty sigil]

Creature Spawner practice is probably what I’ll have to do.

Is Stamina useful for guns?

[leaden fjord]

No, unless you're Vet with the Deadshot talent

[gritty sigil]

Thanks

Im having issues with my weapon not switching when I try swapping. Anyone have this and fix it?

[leaden fjord]

There's a mod for it

[gritty sigil]

What’s it called?

[keen flume]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/331

[gritty sigil]

Thanks!

[gritty sigil]

At what point should I try to move from Heresy to Damnation?

[fickle ether]

Do you find yourself going down in Heresy? If not move on up you even "tend" to find better teammates.

[gritty sigil]

Just wondering how good I need to get to hold up

[keen flume]

Just as long you feel comfortable and skilled enough if you wanna go higher

It doesnt hurt if you wanna play damn just to try and see how it plays different

[gritty sigil]

Fair enough. Thanks

[keen flume]

It will throw more enemies and specials so you self awareness and reactions are gonna be needed

[gritty sigil]

That right there is what I wanted to know. Thanks

[gritty sigil]

Im getting a 100-200 latency. Would turning down my graphics at all help with the transfer rate or is it the server/my internet? Just not sure

[shadow skiff]

Ping? That's just your connection to the chosen server.

[graceful raptor]

is it possible to do these penances solo (with bots)? if so, whats the best build for it?

[vocal nacelle]

kill both twins at the same time? you can do it with zealot/ ogryn

[graceful raptor]

and does the bell-teleport work on the 2/5 difficulty?

[vocal nacelle]

for the nade one nah, bot stepping the mine also count sadly

[vocal nacelle]

yes

[graceful raptor]

ogryn with stubber i guess, eh?

or ripper

[vocal nacelle]

Pickaxe with fire pbb

[graceful raptor]

whats pbb

[vocal nacelle]

Let the other one burn while you oneshot with pickaxe

Point blank barrage

[graceful raptor]

alright ill try

bell doesnt work with bots, amazing

alright fuck these penances i guess

5 left, in general for me

these, the void mission count, weekly havoc and true surviver

[vernal plaza]

Need one guy
Cant teleport solo

[graceful raptor]

i did say it already after

[vernal plaza]

Yeah i didnt read the entire thing

[graceful raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-gif-9382638485807678151

[vernal plaza]

Do not read

[toxic iris]

Should I be stressing about spending Blessing Points for weapon types? I'm only level 13 and not sure if eventually we just 100% them

[graceful raptor]

you will have enough points to get every tier 4 blessing

on every weapon

[toxic iris]

Sweet, thanks!

Is the best way to level to 30 just hitting Quickplay?

[vocal nacelle]

yes and play high difficulty if you can

which is unfortunate

[toxic iris]

I have been braving difficulty 2 and think that's a good limit given every match is a dice roll of experience

[vocal nacelle]

its not about the equipment

its about the game mechanic

you dont know how to dodge/block/slide/push? you get whacked

if you know how to do it you can run till damnation

[graceful raptor]

higher difficulty - higher reward - higher risk

simple

[digital rampart]

Um I realize I have never been able to complete one auric malestreom mission. I could use some tips

[dense swift]

What are your recommended blessing(s) for the Delver's Pickaxe?

[vocal nacelle]

There's 3 type, branx, karsolas, borovian

Which one you want

if you cant be bothered to think about it just use slaughterer and thrust

[dense swift]

Branx and Karsolas (I like specializing in either single-target, or CC respectively)

[vocal nacelle]

Karsolas can go headtaker+ slaughterer or the option above

[vocal nacelle]

Branx is this

Branx also CC

Use heavy2 -> light loop

[dense swift]

Yep. I learned how to do that from the Krourk Mk IV

[keen flume]

Ogryn tips and tutorials are best tips and tutorials

[short gazelle]

So I have the portents of decay ach but I don't have teh shortcut bell

Do I need to do it on each character to unlock it?

[vocal nacelle]

Nah

When you do the puzzle did you hear the hum?

[short gazelle]

Yes

[vocal nacelle]

Forgot you can't use bell with bots

Need at least 2 people

[short gazelle]

Someone said that it unlocks account wide but I'm not convinced

Yeah I don't see it available on lower difficulty on the char i did it on damnation with

[warm elk]

i straight up dont notice these

[gritty sigil]

Im having trouble deciding what blessings to put on my Combat Knife. I like the idea of Bleed damage, however I noticed in mission that it’s essentially worthless since anything you bleed is killed by an ally before the bleed can reach its potential.

I’d put on Riposte however, I never know when I successfully dodge and I use dodge primarily for movement, so I don’t think that’d get enough use to me.

I have Uncanny Strike on it, but Im looking to replace Flesh Tearer for something more consistently proc’d that doesn’t rely on Dodging. Any advice?

[signal gate]

uncanny flesh tearer for bleed but yes, bleed is weak and using knife properly will put your bleed damage at only 10% of your damage output

Riposte lasts extremely long and precog is the biggest damage boost, none of the other blessings (like smackdown) are as easy to proc as simply, dodging a random melee or ranged attack

Dodging is consistent when you have one of the best dodges in the game, you can go uncanny riposte for consistency, uncanny precog, or precog riposte on zealot

like if you are only using dodge for crab walking and not dodging attacks, you are playing DT wrong

knife has lunge for mobility anyways

[gritty sigil]

Yeah, I use dodge to slide behind enemies for the backstab bonuses. I just read somewhere that a “successful dodge” is just an enemy that’s locked onto you losing that lock by a “dodge” maneuver. Apparently you can even be hit and it’ll still count as a dodge if he lost his lock on you. Not sure if that’s true. First I have to figure out which buff icon the riposte is so I can see if that’s true or not.

[signal gate]

buff icons are inconsistent but you shouldn't really be focusing on backstabs outside of a shroudfield opener, knife does plenty to just hitting the head anyways

Wdym by sliding, or you just sliding or are you doing a dodge slide? Dodge is the action where you do a short dash in a direction, slide dodging is sliding during this dodge, consuming an extra dodge count but gaining much more distance. These proc dodge blessings. Sliding normally and sprinting avoiding gunfire do not trigger on dodge blessings and talents

[gritty sigil]

Dodge slide

[signal gate]

any melee or ranged attack from enemies that can be dodged will proc the blessings, making them extremely consistent

i can't imagine you consistently go from slide to weakspot when you go for backstabs

you are gaining 20% more damage (or like 40% if you have the zealot talent) but you are losing a 3x weakspot modifier

[stoic locust]

Doing funky tricks for backstab damage isn't really worth just attacking more imo

[signal gate]

outside of using shroudfield, i would not invest heavily into going for backstabs when you can simply face check most enemies in this game with knife faster and more efficiently

[gritty sigil]

You’re right, but they have a harder time hitting you if you’re behind them

[signal gate]

no they don't

[stoic locust]

I'd be very impressed if you could pull off the heavy 1->special->Light->heavy while hitting both backstabs and headshots

[stoic locust]

Enemies will dime turn to beat your shit

[signal gate]

after you break the initial locked attack, they can turn around and attack just as fast as if you are infront of them

[gritty sigil]

I don’t use heavy attacks.

[stoic locust]

What the fuck are doing

Its knife

The light attacks are barely effective against anything with more than 500 hp

[signal gate]

you should be using heavies for lunges for mobility

[signal gate]

actually they are somewhat correct

[gritty sigil]

Why are you guys getting butthurt that I don’t play the game flawlessly?

[signal gate]

both PAs and special->light are better dps to spam for single target

[signal gate]

no one is getting butthurt

we are explaining you the game so you understand it

[stoic locust]

Using a weapon without utilizing its primary advantage is a slight cause for concern

[gritty sigil]

Well “what the fuck are you doing” is not really advice. And no, it’s not concerning. It’s a game

[stoic locust]

As an unverifiable excuse, I've felt like shit since thursday

[signal gate]

sure go ahead and play how ever you want lol

[stoic locust]

and also haven't been able to leave my house

[gritty sigil]

All good

[signal gate]

we literally can't stop you, but god damn you come into a forum for help, we are going to give you the best help we can offer

how would you feel if we just gave shitty advice lol

[stoic locust]

But still, not using heavy attacks on knife is a pretty bad idea, just holding one is like 30% movespeed

[gritty sigil]

I am asking the questions for the mechanics and appreciate the clarification

I did grab riposte, but Im just not sure when it procs. Little hard to gauge usefulness if I can’t tell how often it works

[stoic locust]

I would recommend a mod that gives second buff bar

[gritty sigil]

Do you know what mod that would be?

[stoic locust]

I have one and I stick all my weapon blessings, keystones, and assorted other things I like to keep track of like Warp Unbound and Until Death there

[gritty sigil]

I’ll look into it

[stoic locust]

I forget what mine is called

[gritty sigil]

I’ll look around. Thanks

[slate sonnet]

I hate muties

Just. Needed to get that off my chest.

One of them threw me away from my ogryn pal who was defending me and I died instantly

I think theyre a well designed enemy but god they are scary

[graceful raptor]

you can dodge them even with the slowest and smallest dodge

[stoic locust]

Me on my way to oneshot them with half the weapons in the game

[signal gate]

yea muties take 3x melee damage and you just need to remember their dodge timing and it's ez

[slate sonnet]

I know but like, on damnation they sneak up on you yk?

[slate sonnet]

Omg

Really?

Okay gtk ty

[graceful raptor]

they scream out loud as well, in DT ears > eyes

[slate sonnet]

But when theres 50 of them all around you eventually one slips thru

[stoic locust]

"Sneak up on you" Loudest telegraph in the game

Besides like

[graceful raptor]

on maelstrom with mutie modificator yeah, thats chaos

[signal gate]

not really, i'm pretty sure you can dodge them even at -2 dodge count

[stoic locust]

Snipers or something

[graceful raptor]

even snipers make sound

[signal gate]

which is like, 5-8 dodges in a row

[slate sonnet]

Thats what I was doigg

[graceful raptor]

you didnt specify it

[slate sonnet]

On any other difficulty theyre pretty ez

[slate sonnet]

No valid just like

Yea

[sinful summit]

Remember that if you're back is against the wall, when you're grabbed he can't damage you and just throws you
Can definitely mitigate any negative consequences from the wave that way

[slate sonnet]

But what if your back is against the wall with your other 3 teammates and then he throws you into the center of the hoard (which was what happened to me :(((( )

[vernal plaza]

Pray

[graceful raptor]

the intended situation will happen

[shadow skiff]

You mean chorus immediately, yes.

[signal gate]

start pushin and clearing

[slate sonnet]

Well yea

[vernal plaza]

9 out of 10 i got no issue getting thrown by mutant

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1057577531739475971/1324911208532545598/Warhammer_40-000-_Darktide_-_2025-01-04_07-42-33.mp4?ex=67b28fb7&is=67b13e37&hm=180bdd8eaf5996399c824b5e5a8fefffd0758b22babf1ea318e07efc11e5dad1&

The 1

[fickle ether]

[opal rover]

guys I'm so fucking lost with this new system why is there gray weapon that are on the same power score as my gold weapon???

[smoky ember]

empowering increases base stats

increasing rarity doesn’t

[opal rover]

💀

I guess this empowering thing is a new thing

[fickle ether]

Been a thing for awhile now

[floral eagle]

Can any help me complete a penance for pysker

[zealous sapphire]

does bleed apply to captain shields?

eg: shredders

[vocal nacelle]

Shield still on? No

[zealous seal]

Looking for 3 people who want to do the frenzy killer and bowling penance

[sinful summit]

if its inflicted on them while their shield is down, then yes, and itll damage their health directly, but you cant stack it while their shield is up

[trim quarry]

is it normal for the enemies to spanw as soon as you enter the game

like i mena within the first minute of walking towards the fight

[sinful summit]

If you get separated from the group, loner spawns can trigger even early on

Even before any sort of initial drop

[trim quarry]

hold on

i got the clip loading

[sinful summit]

If it's hab dreyko, gloriana, or logistratum

[gritty sigil]

To do the lunge strike with the combat knife, do you just move forward while heavy attacking or while sliding forward and heavy attacking? If sliding is the way, do i begin the heavy attack before or after I initiate the slide?

[sinful summit]

It happens quote often on those, much more likely than others

[sinful summit]

But it's still just forced spawns due to detachment from coherency

Drayko tho has been weird recently and routinely spawns a trapper or dog from the catwalk above the first door

[vocal nacelle]

thats normal

[kind flame]

ye still need help?

[shadow skiff]

You sprint and heavy spam. That's it. DS is the one where you need to slide into a heavy.

[trail palm]

So me and my friends r very new (im 20 hours and there 50). We recently started getting into auric stuff and my main problem is that my zealot friend is miles ahead of the team and we can get a lil overwhelmed when he does this. He insisits hes helping us by getting rid of tons of enemies and its how zealot is supposed to be played. Is that true?

[vocal nacelle]

How far away?

[trail palm]

sometimes another room

actually often like a complete diff room lol

[vocal nacelle]

If he's far away like 20-30 meters he's an idiot

[graceful raptor]

zealot has tools to run away and be on his own, but it doesnt mean he has to abandon his team for so long, so your friend is a selfish fuck

[keen flume]

Saying that zealot should be played to get away from the team to "get rid" of enemy spawns is not ideal

[trail palm]

thanks. I kinda got that idea but he was bein a lil stubborn about it so I thought id get some proof of better players saying it ahah

[shadow skiff]

Roam the edge, sure, half the map away, he sucks, tell him to go back to sedation.

[keen flume]

Your friend is probably gonna get himself killed or pinned by overextending with a special enemy or patrols ambushing him as that is not exactly how enemy spawns work as your friend think it is

[graceful raptor]

ideally he has to roam from your team and back from time to time, to kill some gunners you cant take out yourself for example, but not just run away and let you deal with every problem on your own

[vocal nacelle]

wanna know easy way if your friend went too far? Just check the coherency buff (skull icon with number)

[shadow skiff]

If he takes loner, he's already sus.

[graceful raptor]

being more far than 8 meters is still not so far

[vocal nacelle]

Ideal zealot range

[trail palm]

thanks guys I thought as much. He played a lot of solo stuff without us so I think thats where he got the bad habit. Can only hope he listens or im playing with a zealot 2 rooms awa LOL

[graceful raptor]

yeah he behaves like dick

[keen flume]

That explains a lot and you said they have 50 hours?

[graceful raptor]

too bad zealot is op and cant get punished for this

[keen flume]

I think they might be playing the game very wrongly

[vocal nacelle]

Also what difficulty?

[graceful raptor]

bruh he said "auric"

[keen flume]

Zealot gameplay:

🛌

[vocal nacelle]

Ogryn cant read

[graceful raptor]

what?

[keen flume]

I just mean how too easy he is to play that is boring

[graceful raptor]

the dont talk then at all? ogryns do so as well

[trail palm]

yeah they both played a lil without me. I still aint leveled my gear so I can struggle a lil on auric sometimes

[graceful raptor]

good team and skill > gear

[shadow skiff]

Yep, honestly, just stick as a three man and let him get dogged and/or netted for an extended period of time if he keeps doing it. Just say "You are too far away for us to help."

[vocal nacelle]

Auric heresy ?

[graceful raptor]

people beat 40 havoc in grey gear

[trail palm]

for sure but without all my skill tree unlocked I was feelin the pain a lil LOL. One pox walker would just oneshot me before I got the vet toughness perks

[keen flume]

Self awareness, dodges and slides audio cues recognition will be more important than your gear if you are starting fresh

[graceful raptor]

btw yeah, this is also so fucking annoying - when these degenerates run away, get netted and then spam pings to save them, but we're like 50 meters away from him

[shadow skiff]

I feel like they are an ass dragging you to auric before lvl 30.

[trail palm]

problem is he kinda thrives solo and manages to doge the nets and dogs pretty well

[trail palm]

probably but im not doing too bad. I usually only go down 1 or 2 times

[keen flume]

Keep playing on the difficulties you are comfortable and when you are experienced enough try upgrade your gear and auric

[graceful raptor]

just play how you feel

[trail palm]

and the stats mod we have says im getting a decent amount of kills and boss damage so im not lagging too far behind

[graceful raptor]

bruh scoreboard doesnt mean shit

did he teach you this?

[trail palm]

I dont have it he does

[graceful raptor]

i see

[trail palm]

he just sends an ss in the gc when we are done

[graceful raptor]

typical zealot mains

[keen flume]

Scoreboard are not important

[shadow skiff]

He has shroudfield, I assume? Is he just an aggro dumping type?

[keen flume]

if players care that much about scoreboards, they are most likely very selfish caring about numbers try to be superior

[trail palm]

If thats the invis one then yeah hes a shroud

[keen flume]

yes

Shroudfield is the invisbile ability

[shadow skiff]

Still going to feel like arse though especially on psyker.

[graceful raptor]

anyway, you're good for asking these questions

you actually care about your teammates

rare thing

[shadow skiff]

I see he just dumps aggro on you guys while running ahead. I suggest avoiding playing with such tbh.

[trail palm]

ahah yeah I was curious as I dont even fully know how many own class works and I can tell this is a very stick toghther team play game

[graceful raptor]

coherency is key

[trail palm]

unfort irl friend and only reason we all got the game

im stuck with him

[graceful raptor]

literally half of team's power lies in sticking together

for auras, aiblities, just helping to stagger enemies etc etc

[trail palm]

yeah a decent amount of my vet skills seemed team focused so I assumed so

[shadow skiff]

You can even be (relatively) bad and still be fine if one just does that.

[trail palm]

especially my ultimate

[graceful raptor]

too bad there is Loner aura which doesnt give shit

veteran requires a bit tactical approach to everything, he cant just turn off his brain like zealot

[vocal nacelle]

Standard vet VoC build

[trail palm]

yeah veteran was a lil tricky at first. Almost fell into the shoot everything trap

[shadow skiff]

This really sucks tbh.

[vocal nacelle]

What weapon your friend use? Knife?

[shadow skiff]

You don't have the ammo in auric generally. Unless you go specific guns and build for it.

[graceful raptor]

of course its knife, why are you even asking

all invis zealots use knife

[vocal nacelle]

There's TH invis zealot

[shadow skiff]

Some use DS4.

[graceful raptor]

and does it even matter

[trail palm]

yeah knife and bolter

im guessing this is commen ahaha

readin him like a book

[vocal nacelle]

It does, it relate how fast he can run away

[trail palm]

unfort I sent him all these messages and hes just angry now 😓

I am stuck with foward zealot

[shadow skiff]

Yes, the classic selfish asshat knoife loner shroudfield Zealot who runs ahead thinking they are pro at speedrunning but they just aggrodump everyone with all the dook they don't wanna deal with.

[graceful raptor]

of course he is

no wonder

[vocal nacelle]

If the your friend want to make it worse he will use lacerate and mercy killer blessing on knife but it sounds like he use uncanny strike instead

[graceful raptor]

i suggest him to switch to psyker

bubble psyker

so he understands how the game works

[trail palm]

maybe a good shout. Ill see if I can get my psyker friend to switch with him but he rlly likes zealot

he did the same thing in vermintide on tank dwarf. was a nightmare lmao

[shadow skiff]

A classic, they rage alot if they dook up ingame before ragequitting.

[trail palm]

he says the bleed one and chance to crit someone whos bleedintg

[graceful raptor]

its very common that when you see shroudfiels zealot - he will most likely do dumb shit

[vocal nacelle]

Lmao ahahaha bleed combo

[graceful raptor]

bleed combo is ok

doesnt matter what combo he uses

the most important thing is how he plays

and he plays like a complete shithead

[trail palm]

If the other two of us get good enough is it possible to carry on thoes higher level content if hes still pulling the same moves or not rlly?

[vocal nacelle]

Another funny thing to mention, you can search "knife zealot" And see what people think about it

[shadow skiff]

They could have dook gear for all we care if he played with the team tbh.

[graceful raptor]

a bit harder of course, but it depends on the skill and abilities of other 3 guys

[vocal nacelle]

Yes, unless havoc with specific build

[shadow skiff]

Havoc? He's going to cause you guys to lose hard.

[vocal nacelle]

You don't wanna run stealth on havoc, knife still fine

[shadow skiff]

Talking 30+ havocs.

[trail palm]

hmmm yeah Hopefully when we lose a lot he'll wake up#

or maybe he switches to psycer like someone said and has to stay with us

[graceful raptor]

also - if he gets down very far from you, dont try to run to him as soon as you can, so he gets more bitter

deal with your own enemies around you, only then help him

[trail palm]

aha I couldnt even if i wanted too, physically waves of poxes blocking my path

[graceful raptor]

you got the idea

[trail palm]

problem is he never goes down or gets pinned so hes not been punished for his playstyle yet lol

[shadow skiff]

You don't even try to pick ppl in late havoc unless it's safe. Better to just let them die than wipe.

[trail palm]

I think his playstyle is a lil more meta then ours

we just kinda winging it without guides n stuff for now

[graceful raptor]

as i said earlier - zealot is completely busted, the tree gives you all the defences and power in the world

[trail palm]

yeah ig in a melee focused game the melee class is hard to balance

[vocal nacelle]

Knife is very mobile and slippery

[graceful raptor]

you need to be absolutely braindead to get downed on zealot

[vocal nacelle]

And he's using stealth too

[graceful raptor]

stealth which he can recharge in seconds*

so fucking dumb

why fatshark

fucking why

[shadow skiff]

To aggrodump his "friends", it seems.

[trail palm]

ahaa sometimes its useful to stealth and pick me up tbf

and he does a decent amount of boss damage

[graceful raptor]

zealots by design is a kill machine

and it happed so he's the most tanked one as well

[quartz oyster]

I am able to help out today

[shadow skiff]

You probs wouldn't go down as much if he stuck around more instead of pulling aggro and triggering more hordes on you.

[vocal nacelle]

[vernal plaza]

Jank

[trail palm]

Im seeing this is a commen annoyance in the community lol

[vocal nacelle]

since beta

[graceful raptor]

since vermintide 2

[shadow skiff]

Since L4D lul.

[vernal plaza]

Stealth knife zealot aka aggro dumper

[trail palm]

real. Tank dwarves were the worst. Which he also was

his survivability was so high hed just plant himself miles away from the team and swing away never getting punished.

and closeness was insanely important in that game

[graceful raptor]

in my 300 hrs ive never seen dwarf run away

only elves

[vocal nacelle]

dwarves are natural sprinters very dangerous over short distances

[graceful raptor]

a few week ago i finished the trilogy LotR directors cut

not advicing anyone doing so, go watch regular versions

so much useless footaj

[keen flume]

Bro thinks he is the most smart guy than any of the more experienced players (They only got 50 hours)

[trail palm]

Ahah im sure he'll realise when when we get to havoc

I just unlocked it yesterday

[shadow skiff]

Let him host btw, 16-25 shouldn't be an issue, past that and with his selfish playstyle, lul.

[trail palm]

why does hosting matter? I usually host bc he lives on base and milt wifi can be eh

[shadow skiff]

He either can hard solo speedrun or just die pulling too much.

[shadow skiff]

Cos losing 3 times means demotion.

Host takes the loss.

[trail palm]

aaah I see. Does everyone still benifit from havoc promotins if he hosts? Or only the host

[shadow skiff]

Everyone gets it if win.

You just get it at the end of the week vs instantly.

I know cos I jumped from 26 to 40 lul.

[trail palm]

I will 100% be doing that if he lets me aha

[keen flume]

I honestly forget what content the directors cut even has, i still watch them for longer playtime

LOTR movies are just peak for me

[shadow skiff]

If he refuses, just play with ppl on the server instead lul.

[trail palm]

aha its a life long friend its not that easy

no point fallin out over his silly playstyle

[shadow skiff]

Still doesn't mean your life needs to revolve around him, though.

[graceful raptor]

slave fren

gaming servitor

[hexed sundial]

Can anyone help pull me through a havoc misson of at least 25, tryingti get havic legs and randoms is hard work, ideally 3 players that play as a team if any of you guys can help.

[shadow skiff]

Try asking in your local region LFG tbh. You might get more replies.

[hexed sundial]

thx

[cunning sail]

hey guys is there like a guide for new players to figure out which weapon stats they should take? etc. (like dump stats for each weapon)

[shadow skiff]

Check Hammer of the Emperor guide in vet mains for general vet shared weapons, it's a little outdated but generally still okay for new players. If you get some use from it, annoy Path.exe to finish his Steam guide faster and also add non-Vet weapons.

[cunning sail]

Thanks

[floral flame]

does anyone know how to fix a bug where someone leaves your strike team and it still shows them as in your team on the havoc terminal?

[gritty sigil]

Do health curios go to 20% or 21%?

[keen oracle]

21% is max

[gritty sigil]

Thanks

[restive quarry]

do dots ignore armour?

[sinful summit]

No
They have their own adm against armor, and generally do piss all to carapace armor

But with some brittleness applied or some rending buffs, they can actually start dealing reasonable damage to them

But besides carapace, all armor types still take enough damage from all dots that you won't really notice that they're dealing less against one type vs the other

[mortal marsh]

Anyone wanna help me do a damnation strike

Also why can’t I hear anyone speak in game 😅

[gritty sigil]

My character is jerky when sprinting. Is that the servers or a bug? What can I do about it?

[vocal nacelle]

ingame VC or game sound dead?

people rarely talk using ingame VC

[mortal marsh]

Ingame VC

[glass fox]

heavy stubber range or stability?

[vocal nacelle]

collateral as dump stat

[livid steeple]

Dumb question but if im using a weapon like the void strike or trauma staff and fire an aoe at a horde, does the crit calculate off of the attack itself and crit the entire horde within the aoe or does it calculate the chance to crit on each enemy individually

i was going to ask in the psyker channel but crit seemed more a general thing across all classes to ask about

[smoky ember]

the attack itself

for example, an assail shard has the crit decided when you throw it

and it does critical damage to each enemy

and procs on crit talents, such as empathetic evasion

[livid steeple]

ah k ty, wondering about the practicality of the blessing to apply soulblaze on a crit

not really for soulblaze damage since its so bad at that few stacks more for the toughness regen on blaze kills and crit from it

what would be the usual picks for voidstrike btw, looking at Warp nexus and blazing spirit but im wondering if theres better choices bcus it feels like im missing something

sustained fire maybe?

[zealous dome]

For voidBlast
Rending Flurry
Blazing Nexus

For voidStrike
Nexus Surge
Nexus Flurry

Surge works on the bowling balls

[smoky ember]

blazing spirit is pretty good on voidblast

the AOE it applies to is massive

that’s the blazing spirit radius

[gritty sigil]

Whenever I try blocking, my weapon just shudders, but never blocks. I also have the same problem with switching weapons. Any ideas of how to fix that?

[keen flume]

There are some issues that weapon swapping stops during frames of animations

The best way is really to use a mod that garantees weapon swap if you on PC

[gritty sigil]

Ok. The guaranteed weapon switch mod doesn’t seem to work. This happens even when standing still

[signal gate]

is your input device firmly plugged in? sounds like the same issue I had when my mouse cord was loose

[gritty sigil]

I use Bluetooth input devices. Keyboard, mouse, controller

[leaden fjord]

This explainz..

[shadow mirage]

why does it feel like a lot of the hourglass missions are not in circulation? annoying as I have penances to grind

[zealous dome]

Because Excise Vault is out of circulation

Due to a bug

That bug made it so you could not finish the mission

You either fought forever or died

[shadow mirage]

very unfortunate... hope that's a priorty fix 😦

thanks for letting me know

[keen oracle]

I haven't seen Gloriana in days either

[fickle ether]

Lucky then I swear I only get Gloriana

[signal gate]

gloriana is still active

[keen oracle]

So Darktide is just blueballing me

[gritty sigil]

Does anyone have a great psyker gunner build I could try?

[smoky ember]

honestly would be fun

i want an endless mode

either i die or my computer dies from the sheer amount of spawns

[gritty sigil]

I need a build for anyone but ogryn

Scratch that. I need a non-ogryn “invincible” build. Any of the other three classes

[kind flame]

what exactly are you looking for

[smoky ember]

zealot build

run with really any melee weapon, though one with a crit blessing and decent cleave would be preferred

[vocal nacelle]

Gun psyker aren't invincible it's a glass cannon build

[runic flame]

Some advice for new players: Dont die of death.

[brave breach]

Just play havoc

[jaunty junco]

hiya, anyone know how to update the game

everytime I launch it, it just tells me to update, but steam doesn't want to 🤔

[restive tartan]

everytime a person join, there's a warning someone not eligible to play havoc
what is the possible cause?

[zealous dome]

The ranks rolled over recently
Tell them to talk with Dukane

[restive tartan]

thx, let see if i can turn this

[jaunty junco]

any help? D:

[restive tartan]

verify files?

[jaunty junco]

I can try...

[trail palm]

so im a vet. Wtf am I supposed to in a boss fight? I havent rlly figured out a consistent strat. I mostly just throw my shredder grenades and shoot some charged plas shots before going in for the melee

Honestly a lil lost what im supposed to be doing as plas vet in terms of dps lol

[keen oracle]

Shoot it/Chainsword rev attack

[trail palm]

just charge plas shots then?

[zealous dome]

Nope

Left click all the way

[trail palm]

fr? Should I ever be charging it then?

[zealous dome]

Nope
Current Plasma gun is a left click only type of deal

[trail palm]

okay thanks!

[signal gate]

yee charged shots are more damage, but much less efficient ammo wise. The only real case is when you have a lot of enemies to cleave through, which isn't too common (lights cleave 50 hitmass, charged cleaves 100 hitmass)

[lime idol]

No, melee

[trail palm]

Huh really? Pure melee is better damage?

[lime idol]

Depending on the weapon u use, yea

[trail palm]

Dueling sword good for dps?

[lime idol]

it's ok at boss dmg (for veteran)

[slate sonnet]

So idk where else to post this but the weapons customisation mod seems neat, but im worried if I change up a weapon and then uninstall the mod, it'll get all fucky

Also read the rules and it doesn't say anything about not talking about mods so

[smoky ember]

it won’t

[smoky ember]

talking about mods is fine

[slate sonnet]

Kewl

So like itll just go back to normal

Not try ti find data that isnt there anymore?

[smoky ember]

yah

[slate sonnet]

neato

ty

jus makin sure

[vocal nacelle]

You dont even need to uninstall it , just disable it from mod list is enough

[fierce sandal]

Hey I bought a cosmetic from harrowette for the latrine shovel, but it's not showing up under the weapon's cosmetics. Any recommended courses of action here?

[fickle ether]

You buy the one in the shop's first rotate? If so that one only works on the MkVII and MkIII if I'm not mistaken

[lime idol]

swap shovel mark to Mk III and u can equip it

[fierce sandal]

That's... Disappointing

Thank you for clearing that up though

[fierce sandal]

It was an "alternate" skin from last week's rotation I believe

Like not the main bundle, idk what to call the ones on the side lol

OHHH you can swap the mark back to V

Now I happy again

[zinc harbor]

i’d assume this is the help channel?

(first time in this server though i should’ve joined two years ago)

if so i just wanna get my penance(s) for havoc 40 done and thats it

[fickle ether]

That's more a LFG kinda thing you might find help here but the LFG chats would be faster if anyone is willing to help https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1045597890472579075

[zinc harbor]

ah gotcha

[lime idol]

Yea, just the folding animation & attacks will be kinda funny

[frail cedar]

do DoT effects apply debuffs like skullcrusher and brittleness or is just on hit with the weapon?

for example

you got brittleness on an oggy club but you also have bleed stacks skilled

does the bleed dot apply brittleness or is it just an on hit effect?

[signal gate]

Dots don’t apply but do benefit iirc, at least from brittleness

Skullcrusher i believe doesn’t benefit dots

[frail cedar]

it does when they are staggered iirc

i could be wrong tho

thx for answering

i was cooking up the most heinous veteran build

[devout burrow]

Man im like.. Stuck at like 120+ input latency. Whic hfeels really bad. What settings can I look at to help reduce this?

I know disabling frame gen is a good option, but man- this game struggles to run without frame gen tbh lol

[sinful summit]

it does

[signal gate]

i stand corrected

[covert root]

Is there a way for me to do the "just a flesh wound" penance for the zealot chest piece solo? I dont have anyone (competent) to do it with and darktide wont let me start up a private game with just me and solo it

[vocal nacelle]

no you need friend/someone

try asking FLG channel

[covert root]

alright ty

[polar garden]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[signal gate]

stalking shops, but that isn't feasible for most players.

you can spam buy random curio gacha for 250 melk coins each, which is basically the best dump for melk coins

this will help you get curios decked out eventually

[keen oracle]

I've got more from Brunt's shop than melk lol

[signal gate]

not melks daily shop, melks 250 gacha

250 gacha is infinite

[keen oracle]

I know, still getting more max curios out of brunts

[calm pelican]

I'm building a crusher, what perks are recommended? Maniac/flak?

[smoky ember]

carapace unyielding

slaughterer skullcrusher

[calm pelican]

ty

[trail palm]

my friends an invis zealot but im a vet so often im stuck alone killing a wave of enemies whilst hes seperated from me. He seems to thrive whilst I struggle. What can I do as a vet to up my survivability?

[graceful raptor]

use cover, take the 5% toughness on kill perk, get gud in general

[zealous dome]

Use your invisibility and let him take all the aggro for 18 seconds

[trail palm]

im not thje vealot

[trail palm]

thanks!

[zealous dome]

Ok but fr though

Get Out for Blood and frag grenades

Throw two frag grenades and it'll clear trash hordes

Those kills will replenish toughness because of O4B

[trail palm]

huh thanks! Everything else ive seen said voice of command so ill defo switch

didnt even realise I could stealth as vet

[graceful raptor]

VoC is definitely better anyway

stealth is used mostly for objectives or reviving teammates

[trail palm]

as a team perk or single person? My problem is hes kinda just runnin off on his own

so if inf is better as a solo perk id rather take that

[graceful raptor]

better to use it near teammates to give them gold toughness, but if the situation is dire to its ok to use it solo

if your dumbass friend is running away, stick to your other 2 dudes

[trail palm]

they are also zealots

[graceful raptor]

as fucking stupid as him?

[trail palm]

its a team wide problem....triple zealot friends

[trail palm]

yeah but bc they thrive alone running around and im the only one dying they claim its a me problem lol

[graceful raptor]

not envying you with these "friends"

[trail palm]

just need the ability to survive on my own but not to keen on having four zealots and dont wanna swap to psyker bc yeah

[trail palm]

happens sometimes lol. They put there work in and survive tbf

[graceful raptor]

cause zealot is OP

and veteran requires a bit of tactical approach to everything, he is not as dumb as zealot

[trail palm]

ah is zealot that good? They have a few hundred hours on me so i thought that was it

[graceful raptor]

his perks are unbalanced

[trail palm]

maybe ill switch if it requres me too lol

[graceful raptor]

damage reduction on damage reduction

[trail palm]

is the play 4 zealots then?

[graceful raptor]

on toughness replenishment for just breathing

[smoky ember]

zealot is not OP lmfao

[graceful raptor]

until its havoc - just skill

[smoky ember]

vet and psyker both are stronger than zealot

zealot does have consistent survivability

[graceful raptor]

bait used to be believeable

[trail palm]

ooooh I see. Any recs on commen newbie vet mistakes then?

[smoky ember]

get good at melee

if you're struggling with chaff hordes

hsword is your best bet

rashad combat axe is also a really easy, strong option

[graceful raptor]

"heavy sword"

the guy it definitely trolling

[trail palm]

im not so much struggling with melee its more so Im meleeing stuff in front of me

and then a specalist sneaks up behind me

[graceful raptor]

"combat axe against hordes"

lmao

[trail palm]

like a pox bomber or a trapper

[smoky ember]

kar you have zero idea what you're talking about

please stop talking

[smoky ember]

thats just situational awareness, its something that comes with gameplay

but

[graceful raptor]

just get gud, end of story

[trail palm]

ill try it out. Ive been using the deuling sword

[smoky ember]

always always pay attention to sound cues

[graceful raptor]

until its havoc you can beat everything solo if you want

ears > eyes

until the special sound bugs out and doesnt play, but thats a different story

[smoky ember]

yeah thats ur problem, ds is OP as fuck, and can build bad habits, but has subpar horde clear

[trail palm]

My problem tends to be being able to pull away. Like ik the specailsit is coming but if i pull away from the hoard to kill it the hoard just ends me

[smoky ember]

id recommend using less OP weapons just to get more familiar with the melee loop

also

when you're reloading

or theres a brief lull in the fight

turn around

look for specials

[trail palm]

ah mb. Ill switch to the other sword

[graceful raptor]

combine pushing and dodging, and staggering from melee hits also works

[smoky ember]

always keep your head on a swivel

[smoky ember]

(i also find using other weapons far more fun)

[graceful raptor]

you cant spam only one thing

[smoky ember]

though if ur taking hsword

take a good anti crusher weapon

[trail palm]

thanks! Ive 100% being neglecing push

[smoky ember]

like bolter, revolver, hellbore

[trail palm]

ah I see. ive been using the plasma and its been decent

[smoky ember]

plasma too

simple weapon thats easy 2 use

[trail palm]

All my stuff isnt good level though yet. Only 30 hours in lol

[smoky ember]

just dont ever use the charge shots

[trail palm]

ahah yeah dw I quickly figured that

[smoky ember]

pawesome

plasma rework when

[smoky ember]

you can also get good build advice from #veteran-class

[trail palm]

Ill check it out but its defo me a me issue ahah

[smoky ember]

a good build wont make up for experience

but it absolutely can help make learning so much easier

[graceful raptor]

better to ask for a build advice right away

[trail palm]

yeah its more so a me fumbling or just not knowing what to do when certain things araise

[smoky ember]

(with some exception)

[graceful raptor]

with a screenshot

[smoky ember]

thats fair

[smoky ember]

its just sound cues

you'll learn with time

[trail palm]

yeah aurics just very punishing lol. Make one mistake and poof ive been flattened

but thanks guys

ill take all the advice

[smoky ember]

of course !

[graceful raptor]

change friends also, will be better

overall it will be more fun

[trail palm]

ahah irls so not an option unfort

[graceful raptor]

get to their houses at night and threaten them to be better teammates

[trail palm]

if I get gud I wont need to 🙏🏾

[gusty zodiac]

anyone down to assist with a karnac twins challenge mode run?

preferably someone with the bells unlocked but we can run through the full thing if not

or hell, help with any of the other triumphs (kill within 5s of eachother + don't activate more than 3 mines)

[shadow skiff]

Well, they are the selfish loner sorts. I think I told you it's just not worth playing with them tbh.

[trail palm]

before it was only 1 zealot. Now they have all converted

[shadow skiff]

Oh, just honestly don't play with them.

[gritty sigil]

Im a bit confused by the event. The Grim/Script you have to collect - do you just pick it up, does it have to be in the mobian 21st missions, do other people picking them up count, do you have to succeed the mission?

I just finished a mission with a script. And got nothing added to my count? What did I do wrong?

[little coyote]

it has to be a mission with the 21st modifier

[gritty sigil]

Thanks. I thought so

Do you have to succeed at the mission?

[trail palm]

I dont really get the event modifier tbh. Is it just poxwalkers have blue armour? They feel the same health wise

[graceful raptor]

more health, a bit harder to stagger i think

all flac except head

i think its flac

[zealous dome]

Groaners have 300 health and 1 mass
The 21st has 625 and 1.5 mass

[graceful raptor]

how much does bruiser have

[zealous dome]

Scab Bruisers have 625 hp and 3.5 mass

[graceful raptor]

and the one with a bucket on its head

[zealous dome]

Dreg Bruisers have 688 HP and 2.5 mass

[graceful raptor]

i see

[zealous dome]

Of course those health values are damnation values

[trail palm]

huh they still feel like a 2 hit to the head with the dueling sword. Am i tripping?

[graceful raptor]

21st should have 2 or 2.5 mass as well i think

[trail palm]

forgive me but what is mass?

[graceful raptor]

more the mass, harder to cleave

[zealous dome]

Well you can easily build DS lights to have 300+ damage on a single swing against Unarmored
So two hits doesn't seem off

[graceful raptor]

does mass affect staggering?

[trail palm]

aaaah I see thanks. Was gonna say they felt the exact same but with cooler armour lol

[graceful raptor]

they hit harder also i think

fakin hell, i have 1.5k hours, poxbreaker, 99% of penances - but i dont know shit about almost all numbers of enemies and weapons

like, does the new enemy hit harder, or get staggered harder - lmao no idea, i kill him instantly all the time

[gritty sigil]

I am really getting some shit groups for the last 24 hours. Rushing or dying 2 minutes before we succeed

[smoky ember]

fully flak, more hitmass, more health

[smoky ember]

each attack has a specific amount of cleave, and each enemy has hitmass (can increase from pox gas)

when you attack, each enemy’s hitmass is subtracted from your cleave, until the attack stops

blessings that decrease enemy hitmass (shock and awe, perfect strike), and those that increase cleave(savage sweep, wrath) are functionally the same, you hit more enemies per attack

they just are coded differently

although note that increasing cleave has no effect on damage distribution, only enemies hit

[trail palm]

thanks!

[smoky ember]

ohg forgot to mention that perfect strike lets you cleave through carapace

and multiplies enemy hitmass by .25

(meaning 4x cleave on crits)

i love perfect strike on evis

oh also staggered enemies get .5 hitmass

i think that’s everything

[lime idol]

no

[smoky ember]

yes

lmfao

[lime idol]

no, really

[smoky ember]

i summon thee! @sinful summit

[lime idol]

hitmass reduction scales with stagger state (light, medium and heavy)
light stagger state is x90%
medium is x75%
heavy is x50%

most weapons don't put enemies into heavy stagger state easily if at all

on avg you're looking more like x90~75%

there're also some other attacks with weird innate x%mass value against specific armor types

[sinful summit]

Up to, I don't recall exact numbers

But it's based on stagger level

[smoky ember]

i shmee

[lime idol]

I gave exact numbers above

[lime idol]

also
I figured out why evicerator III's H1 gets stuck on some enemies

The eviscerator MK III has a hidden mass multiplier
heavy1: x75% mass against Flak, x300% mass against Maniac

that's why +%clv allows u to cleave through dreg ragers but normally it gets stuck
that attack considers dreg ragers' 4 mass as 12

[smoky ember]

lmfao

[rigid wasp]

Fatshark moment

[devout burrow]

I dunno if im stupid or not but like.. I def collected over 100 plasteel last mission.. But my contract is still 0/750 lol

[coral violet]

you didnt open the tab before completing the mission

[devout burrow]

No I did, thats why I was hunting down plasteel in the mission haha

[restive tartan]

collected 3 but the counter wont go up

a bug?

[little coyote]

Was the mission with the 21st modifier

[vocal nacelle]

Did you play the modifier?

[restive tartan]

oh

so need 21st to be there

[vocal nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/firefly-hsr-hsr-honkai-star-rail-firefly-honkai-star-rail-nod-gif-2398221267882407349

[livid kettle]

Is this the right channel to ask about if someone have the same GPU as me or should i go another channel? i just need to ask the graphic preset is all

[vocal nacelle]

you can ask here, maybe someone will answer

[livid kettle]

alright then

does anyone have the b580 gpu? i just got it and in darktide, there is weird square ish shadow im having rn

[hearty junco]

what's the dump stat for boltguns?

and for combat blade

i assume mobility for both?

[gritty sigil]

How important is penetration on the tac axe? For a speed build

Is the combat blade for a melee build?

[vocal nacelle]

yes for bolter

[vocal nacelle]

uh gonna need pic for that

[gritty sigil]

Dump damage. It’s a difference of about 9 Damian

Damage

Mobility is going to aid your movement capabilities which you need for a combat knife build

The majority of your damage is crit and weak spot. The damage of the knife is really not important in the end

[livid kettle]

i will send a vid in the #darktide-pics-vids tagging u soon

[gritty sigil]

For a tac axe build, what would the dump stat be?

[livid kettle]

nvm i can't send medias in the server, im assuming i haven't reach the role yet

[vocal nacelle]

just need to chat for a while

maybe try turning on the Xess?

[shadow skiff]

If it's vet or zealot, it's mobility dump. Psyker might build for mobility but dumping it is also fine.

[livid kettle]

it is on, i tried balanced and performance. i will open again and try on quality now then

because, its not like it disturbs my gameplay. its just weird squareish shadows going around

[livid kettle]

well, i went and did that. didn't change it but i found the solution i guess. i have to put the global illumination on high instead of low. that is weird considering i went from 1060 to b580 and it didn't have this issue lol

wait nvm, it didn't fix it

only for a bit

[vocal nacelle]

i think i got it before on my 2060

does it looked like square ish window

with lots of dots

[livid kettle]

well, i would say its like u see the pixels in minecraft?

well, i think this fixes it now but its a pity

i have to turn off Intel XeSS

and use anti-aliasing

[gritty sigil]

Thanks

[shadow skiff]

Is in relation to combat blade. TacAxe is the same anyway.

[gritty sigil]

I dump damage for combat knife. The difference in max damage is negligible and you’re not trying to damage your target, you’re trying to crit and/or weakspot them. Those are where your damage comes from. The mobility is actually very important in a combat knife build. You need to move as fast as possible to hit and run the mobs. Thus why I was wondering if Tac Axe is the same or not

[shadow skiff]

Yes, and crits/weakspot damage is based on base damage with a multiplier.

[gritty sigil]

Yep and the difference is not huge in a 53 versus a 59. I’ve got min Damage and smash through mobs the exact same as with my max Damage knife

But the movement is where I can get extra hits in. Extra hits - more damage

Just my take, though

No problem running any way you want

[hearty junco]

that makes sense

[shadow skiff]

But telling people that is the meta choice seems like a bad idea. You don't know their breakpoints and such and coming up short of a 1-2 shot might feel bad for some.

[hearty junco]

i'm nowhere near experienced enough to even understand all this stuff

[gritty sigil]

I never said anything about meta

The question had no mention of meta either. Just asked for a dump stat. Truth is you can dump anything you want. I was telling him an effective dump for a combat knife build

[hearty junco]

i appreciate it

[gritty sigil]

No prob man

[shadow skiff]

They did ask if it's a mobility dump like most weapons. Answer is, yes.

[hearty junco]

you both were very helpful

[shadow skiff]

To be fair, is up to you to decide, but uncanny is a must.

[gritty sigil]

Answer is not all weapons need a mobility dump. With your assertion, they should just get rid of mobility if no one can use it. The fact is, its VERY effective on knife

But it does come down to comfort

Whatever you like to play is cool

[hearty junco]

i like being mobile with the knife

dash around like madman

[shadow skiff]

Is up to you to decide if 2% more speed is worth the trade off.

[gritty sigil]

It’s more than 2%. It’s noticeable. At least in play. Have you tried a max mobility knife? I suggest trying it if you haven’t

[shadow skiff]

It is fast enough as is, tbh. And I'm using it to shank anything left after 2 shredders.

[gritty sigil]

Only number of strikes per kill difference I notice is in bulwarks. If you crit or weakspot a mob with a knife, it’s going down regardless of the small difference. It doesn’t need to be powerful to get the same kills. But, Im not going to continue trying to convince you. Play anyway you like.

[hearty junco]

i appreciate you guys discussing

helps me to learn

pros and cons

.

i wouldn't have intuitively considered damage, but now i can test to see which feels best

[shadow skiff]

Just whatever you do, have uncanny strike on it.

That is the one thing you should have on it.

[hearty junco]

i have uncanny and flesh tearer

[gritty sigil]

Yes . Uncanny Strikes is almost required

[hearty junco]

i didn't have it, but i do now

[gritty sigil]

I’d suggest uncanny and either premonition or riposte

[hearty junco]

it looks pretty crazy

[shadow skiff]

It is. 4 hits crushers with literally no talents if you stab heads from memory.

[gritty sigil]

I prefer premonition because it alters finesse not just crit chance. Finesse increases crit chance AND other things (can’t remember off the top of my head)

[hearty junco]

is crit chance and unyielding ok for perks?

[gritty sigil]

If you’re built to crit a lot, then yes

[shadow skiff]

Cara+elite or flak.

[gritty sigil]

Flak would be another option, but not really much difference with a knife

[hearty junco]

i dont have any additional crit

[shadow skiff]

At least for melee vet anyway.

[gritty sigil]

Zealot is mainly the melee class

[hearty junco]

yeah i'm using a boltgun currently

so mostly ranged

[shadow skiff]

Weapon Specialist playstyle.

[gritty sigil]

But any class has options

Good luck with your build bud!

[hearty junco]

thanks guys

[shadow skiff]

But class, is this an IJ Zealot or something?

[hearty junco]

vet

[shadow skiff]

Oh. I assume left/middle keystone if bolter then.

Explains the lack of crits. Since the most ridiculous crit buff is on the right side. Stacking crit chance on dodge.

[hearty junco]

https://i.imgur.com/r5WIIOB.jpeg

[shadow skiff]

The 5% crit bonus is also right side, lul.

[hearty junco]

i changed it to elite/cara

i still don't remeber which enemies are which category, some i'm just doing what people suggest

[shadow skiff]

Cara is basically crushers and reaper armor/mauler head/scab rager body.

[hearty junco]

ooo

i did'nt realize it was based on body part armor

that makes so much more sense

[shadow skiff]

Elite is anything that isn't a mook. Can't remember if specialist counts.

Flak is most armor that isn't cara.

[hearty junco]

right, that makes sense

i can literaally just see now

by looking

[shadow skiff]

You can test in psykhanium anyway except the elites thing.

[hearty junco]

ya

[shadow skiff]

But pretty sure you can look up list of what is what to decide on flak or elite. Elite is mostly to double down on stabbing crushers in the face harder.

[frozen aurora]

Can I sell or sacrifice spare curios?

[keen flume]

Only sell them if I remember

They are gonna be sold for dockets only too no matter what rarity

[minor crane]

for the event, do you personally have to carry a scripture/grimoire out? my teammates have been getting to them before me and i haven't been getting progress in the event

[keen oracle]

No, I've got multiple from one mission, which isn't possible if only your books counted.

Have you been playing on the correct mission modifier? Only counts on the event modifier

[minor crane]

ah, that might be it. ive just been picking missions with grims/scrips

[keen oracle]

You need to play missions with the "21st Moebian" modifier. They all have grims/scripts

[civic dew]

could some one explain what warp charge is

[graceful raptor]

is this from the left keystone?

[vocal nacelle]

when you kill elite/special you gain a stack of buff called warp charge

that stack boost your damage or you get faster ability cooldown when you use your ability you can gain 4 stack - 6 if you pick the 6 stack talent

[keen flume]

Yes

[short gazelle]

Melk's grimoire/scripture pickup mission; does that require YOU to pick up the books? or just complete a mission with them in your squad?

[keen flume]

Need to complete with your squad picking them

[short gazelle]

Okay so its just bugged

[raven jacinth]

Was about to ask the same thing, thought i did pick up more and the number just stayed the same

[pallid tapir]

this feels stupid to ask but how do grimoires work?

do you have to complete the mission with them in hand?

[lone adder]

You basically take a bunch of corruption to your HP pool that doesnt go away even with medicae, but you get extra points for finishing the level with them in hand.

[pallid tapir]

okay that makes sense

i kept discarding them thinking thats how it worked 🙃

[lone adder]

Nah unfortunately tossing them just destroys them

[latent charm]

Hey I’m trying to get a group of people together for scripture hunting. Looking for people who are good at finding them. I’m having trouble completing this most recent event. @ me if you’re interested.

[lone adder]

#vox-lfg-lexicanum

[smoky ember]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/298

[latent charm]

Shit I should just play with mods huh

Are they easy to install?

[smoky ember]

very

download the loader and framework

install it

(there are instructions)

then for individual mods you just extract them into ur mods folder

then type the name of the folder into the load order text file

there are instructions for it all

very easy 2 set up

[latent charm]

Thank you very much!

[pallid tapir]

Question

How do I improve my melee combat?

[vocal nacelle]

what melee weapon first?

[little coyote]

dodging is your best friend

[pallid tapir]

Uhh combat knife or force sword

I know I need to be blocking/pushing more and also using my special ability

But mouse5 is such a weird bind and it stopped working at some point

[vocal nacelle]

my disgust when i see combat knife

but dodge more often so you dont get hit

[pallid tapir]

I do dodge
Usually into a wall or something

[vocal nacelle]

is this 1handed force sword or 2 handed?

[pallid tapir]

One handed

I don't remember which mark I'm really liking

[vocal nacelle]

well one of the best way to learn is to watch someone using it

[vocal nacelle]

does the weapon special stab or slash

[pallid tapir]

Slash I think

[vocal nacelle]

thats ilisi

[pallid tapir]

Kind of just seems like the sword gets empowered

I think i also need to stop using the scroll wheel

[vocal nacelle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Qgm_Pj4gMI&ab_channel=Vamp maybe this one

ilisi always need to empower as first hit so you can build up the slaughterer buff

if you use exorcist you can spam hit the empower slash

also do the empower heavy attack instead

[pallid tapir]

Honestly it's more me trying to figure out when to light attack, heavy attack, block, push, dodge

Building that muscle memory

[vocal nacelle]

light attack when there's horde only (groaners)

empower heavy when there's elite, flak horde

block /push/dodge is when enemies want to hit you

you can block and dodge at the same time for more safety measures

[pallid tapir]

That sounds simple enough

[vocal nacelle]

learn to dodge everything, you can dodge :

• mauler overhead (block while dodging)
• crusher overhead (block while dodging)
• rager full combo (block while dodging)
• trapper net (dodge slide for more range)
• sniper shot
• mutant grab
• dog pounce (combine with shove/push)
• poxbuster explosion (shove first and dodge slide)
• plague ogryn combo hit /one handed smash (block and dodge the last hit)

you can dodge gunshots too

[smoky ember]

(dont use exorcist)

(just take by crack of bone)

[vocal nacelle]

depends on the build, but yea you can also take the talent

[worthy scaffold]

Hey stupid question but, for private match penances, will a lobby created using group search work?

[vocal nacelle]

quick play? no

party finder and set the mission to private , yes

[worthy scaffold]

ty

[azure forum]

\

personally newer to havoc, two things

one, i thought everything reset?

why is my assignment still 22

also what does deployments until demotion mean?

[keen flume]

Deployments mean attempts

3 attempts and if you fail to complete a havoc mission you get demoted by a rank

[azure forum]

oh okay

tahnks

[smoky ember]

exorcist stinks

the opportunity cost of losing like

every other blessing

in exchange for peril quell

(which can actually be a negative, with warp talents)

is just bad

especially when a talent that will only be 1 extra point away if you’re focusing on melee at all does essentially the same thing

[pallid tapir]

started with psyker should i play vet?

[coral tide]

give them all a try i say

[pallid tapir]

thats the intent, but it was more like who i should try next

[late valley]

Well which one do you want to play next

Because that's the best motivation

[pallid tapir]

true

[zealous dome]

Hope your melee skills are decent

You're going from mostly ranged class to a melee/ranged hybrid

[toxic plover]

Ok so this havoc thing, I have a question.
So I'm currently rank 8, but today I could only do a rank 8 (and unlocked rank 9).
But if I'm already rank 8, haven't I unlocked rank 9 yet?
Or do you get bumped down 1 unlocked rank each week regardless (meaning you need to do at least 2 to advance 1 level)?

[lusty plaza]

Looking at the item finder mod, and the combat stats mod, but dont want to lose out on steam achievements or get auto banned for altering the game files. Is that something I need to worry about? I know nothing of mods, but saw some videos of gameplay that had them

[lime idol]

anything on nexus is generally fine

[smoky ember]

no mods will get you banned except mods that are very explicitly cheating, like hotkeys to animation cancel to fire/melee faster

or mods that affect server side

[pulsar shale]

Havent played in a few weeks and I wanna get the "help other's on their havoc missions" penance via lower-level havoc runs (i got to and cleared havoc 25 and decided This Is Not For Me lol). Did I basically miss the boat on loads of lower havocs being available to join?

[brave breach]

Let's just say havoc wasn't the best mode

[vocal nacelle]

its a sweat mode

[pulsar shale]

I know lotsa people like the intensity, but I know 1,000,000% that I didn't wanna do the higher tiers lmao

I just need those snazzy cosmetics, hence why I wanna just spam other people's low level havocs

[vocal nacelle]

its fine, 25 is like average hi int damnation with extra modifier

[pulsar shale]

Again I have already done it

And that's how I know it's not for me lol

[vocal nacelle]

General Info

• Ranks 1 to 10 are Malice difficulty

• Ranks 11 to 20 are Heresy difficulty

• Ranks 21 to 30 are damnation difficulty

• Ranks 16 to 29 have an "increased difficulty" mutator

• Ranks 30+ have the "highest difficulty" mutator
  Increased difficulty mutator is just Emperors Fading Light (1)
  Highest difficulty mutator is just Emperors Fading Light (2)

[pulsar shale]

I know this, but thank you

My question was just if it's at all likely to frequently be able to find lower level (10 and under) havocs to more casually grind out that assist penance

Or are the only people doing havoc 20+ at this point

[vocal nacelle]

you can find someone and derank to havoc 1 manually

tbh i never saw havoc less than 20 in my region, usually its 20-40

and its leaning more to 40

[pulsar shale]

Guess I'll try and bug the lfg when I have some time to play then! Thank ye kindly

And god yeah lmao same

I kinda burned out when havoc first dropped so I stopped playing like 2 months, then I come back ready go get those killer black cosmetics and oops its all 25+ lobbies lol

Fading light is ASS*

*i just dont personally like it

[brave breach]

Your best bet is wait for weekly reset, that's when many people come play their one weekly game

[pulsar shale]

🫡

[brave breach]

Lot of people like me don't care about the mode and just play one weekly for free shit, and/or progress the penance of opening the chests

I kinda lied, I do care about the mode but I can't stomach the party finder

[pulsar shale]

Understandably so lol

[maiden fiber]

What's a good way of lvling mastery? Buy the same weapon and upgrade it onceo r upgrade it ot max then sacrifice it?

[red ginkgo]

Buying the same weapon and upgrading it once to green, then sacrificing it is the most efficient way, yeah

[maiden fiber]

Thank you

[formal narwhal]

Anyone know how to slide while carrying stuff

I can do it normally but can’t when carrying stuff

[brave breach]

Shift->ctrl

Rinse and repeat

[formal narwhal]

Do that all the time when I am not carrying stuff but cant get it to work when holding stuff

[brave breach]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[keen steppe]

wtf i cannot connect to a group because i have another version but i just updated 10 min ago

[torpid meteor]

the icon to the right here is xp, right?

[vocal nacelle]

the group you want to join have older version

[keen flume]

https://tenor.com/view/yuh-huh-gif-15270611547611670785

[torpid meteor]

ty

[vast osprey]

So I'm just restarting Darktide and have dabbled in all the classes, is it better to stick with one I enjoy most and then dabble with others when I'm capped, or just keep dabbling around here and there?

[graceful raptor]

"how do i have fun, guys, i dont understand"

[vast osprey]

Variety can be the spice of life or can spoil it.

[steel tulip]

I would honestly pick a class that initially interests you then go with it until level 30. Level 30 is the final level and is when you unlock all of the skill points necessary to finish a build for said class.