gameplay-help

[random kite]

I just hit 30. Is there a way to craft a decent set of starting gear like in Vermintide, or do I just have to hope I get the weapon I want from a mission reward?

Also, is there a "defacto" dump stat for each weapon or is it just build dependent? Guide I was looking at doesn't mention what to look for statwise, just blessing and perks.

[sinful summit]

you can buy a random unupgraded stat roll of a weapon in the "brunts armory" tab of the armory exchange
they can be fully consecrated to get 2 random perks and 2 random blessings on it, and to change which ever of those you want on there, you earn the ability to do so via mastery, which is earned by using the weapon, or sacrificing matching weapons into that weapon archetype. mastery is also what allows you to empower a weapon to futher raise its stats closer and closer to its displayed potential.

99.9% of the time, the dumpstat is always the same for the type of weapon, the usual cases are mobility, defences, collateral, and warp resistance
any weapon that has collateral typically actually is better when the collat is lower, as the stagger can make you miss shots, so its always a higher priority dump UNLESS you are using a blessing that benefits from staggered enemies, like no respite or pinning fire.
some weapons have both mobility and defences, which comes down to personal preference, whether you want slightly further dodges, or slightly reduced push/block cost
the literally only case where damage can be dumped is on the flamer, because the 20% dump is a loss in 1 singular damage on the hit that applies the burn dot, which is absolutely hilarious that they have a stat for this that changes this little

woe
wall of text

[random kite]

Thank you! I bought a bunch from Brunt's Armory, but they're only 320/330, which is a lot weaker than the 420-430 I'm getting at mission ends. I'm looking at Combat Blade/Plasma Gun which have their own weird stats. Thank you again, I appreciate the info!

[smoky ember]

low rating is irrelevant, as you can empower a weapon to increase its stats

the 2 bars you see for each stat are the current and the potential stat

[stone flint]

any tips for finding reapers for the training area unlock?

seem to see them a lot less than any other special

[vocal nacelle]

training area unlock?

[zealous dome]

Pretty sure you'll have to kill more of them

Yeah

[stone flint]

the penance to get the big fellas in the training area requires you to kill 10 of each

[stone flint]

yes but i meant how do i find more of them; ie are they more common on certain missions? mission types? difficulties?

[prisma wraith]

Well you'll definitely find more just playing on higher difficulties. Don't think missions or mission types influence spawns much.

Aside from special assignment tending to spawn a lot more melee units than ranged and that one mid event in Excise Vault that likes to jumpscare at least one player with a murder of ragers

[vocal nacelle]

higher difficulty spawn more reaper

[stone flint]

complaining works too; i ask in here about not finding any and on my next mission i find more than 5

[leaden fjord]

LMFAO

I LOVE THIS GUY

[stone flint]

that was amazing

lol whats he say in the 5 second one

[smoky ember]

“FAT FUCKER”

[stone flint]

havent found a larper yet, let alone really anyone with mics

whats the tldr on this plasma rifle

[prisma wraith]

Plasma gun? Strong

[stone flint]

but you cant hipfire it?

[prisma wraith]

yes you can wym

It's even the optimal playstyle

[stone flint]

yeah thats my bad, shouldnt really be using mods before i try everything vanilla first lol

putting a scope on it with the weapon mods one causes some funkiness

is there not a modding channel? is there somewhere specific i should keep such chat/questions to?

[prisma wraith]

#📌communities message There's this

[stone flint]

what staff is best for carapace/bosses? the mortar-like one?

[quick remnant]

Void (ball) and Surge (electric)

Iirc

[cloud adder]

On the Duelling Sword, Mk V,
How does it work with Dodge distance?
Mobility adds +6% but Defences adds +8%
Is it now +14% or does it take only the highest, so +8%?

[stone flint]

Keep getting an Out of Memory crash - is that a RAM or HDD space issue?

[neon galleon]

dw it's not your hardware, it's a game issue, just relaunch the game after a few matches

[stone flint]

mmk; luckily hasnt happened mid match yet

[patent jasper]

if it happens again put this in your advanced launch settings
--lua-heap-mb-size 2048

[manic pollen]

Does this fix it or just make it happen less often?

Tired of restarting so often

[patent jasper]

i havent had a single memory issue and i have it on rn

[manic pollen]

Sick, I'll try that today. Cheers!

[smoky ember]

type this into your launch settings

it helps negate it

oh sorry

someone already said that

[stone flint]

neat, ty fellas

[stone flint]

Weapons have guarenteed crits?

[red ginkgo]

Weapons with blessings like headhunter (+20% chance to crit per hit. Resets on crit)

[zealous dome]

Crit strings

On some weapons

If a shot crits then the next 1 or 2 shots will be crits as well

[plain pond]

For the “Resupply Allies” penance for the veteran, will replenishing ammo count with survivalist or do I need to use scavenger

[smoky ember]

most full automatic weapons have a crit string, meaning once a crit occurs, the next 1-2 shots will also crit

[stone flint]

is that based on a blessing or just a secret they dont tell you about autos?

[smoky ember]

just innate to most full auto guns

idk the exact ones that have it

but it’s not hard to test

[stone flint]

fair

[lost smelt]

Best chainaxe blessings?

[smoky ember]

depends on the mark

[lost smelt]

Mark XII. The overhead smash single target one

[smoky ember]

thrust slaughterer i believe

[trail shell]

mk4 is better..

[lost smelt]

What about this for boss killing?

[smoky ember]

for mk12, take thrust and slaughterer/headtaker

mk4, take both slaughterer and headtaker

the chain axes already have really good single target damage

[smoky ember]

also thunderous does little to nothing for bosses

[calm cairn]

so i thank i got coms band idk why "other than cursing" / is vc working in game rn?

[smoky ember]

i don’t think you can get comms banned in this game

vc should be working fine

[calm cairn]

im chating in discord with a friend and trying to figer it out

it was a bug of some kind i rebooted and its working

[void forge]

If it was your chat not appearing that's been a known issue for a while

Restart should fix it as you've seen

[calm cairn]

idk what it was but i could not speek or hear anyone twas werd

[smoky ember]

yeah that’s a bug

if you try to type in chat and it doesn’t display mourningstar or strike team on the left, then it’s bugged

and you aren’t in the voice channels

you can fix it in the mourningstar by pressing tab, but when in game you’re just out of luck

[calm cairn]

thank you

[sterile valve]

so what does this number actually mean https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/279443843789750282/1295118407024382073/image.png?ex=670d7c82&is=670c2b02&hm=940a9331cbe84af6c71360435a72dbc552900f4e27de340472712f1bcb8024f9&\

same with the rarities actually those dont make sense to me either outside of profane not having perks and higher rarities sometimes having perks

[smoky ember]

weapon power rating

[smoky ember]

rarities are how many perks and blessings a weapon can have, orange being the highest

[smoky ember]

the power rating determines the weapons stats, which are the the bars you can see

the grey, larger bar is the potential, and the filled yellow bar is the current stat

potential is what you can possibly get the weapon to

by empowering

[sterile valve]

and you fill that bar by just using that specific weapon in missions right?

[smoky ember]

you fill it by empowering at hadron, which you need to have mastery levels to unlock

you gain mastery by sacrificing weapons to hadron (weapons of the same family will gain more mastery when sacrificed) and by using them in missions

[sterile valve]

and do I need to increase the mastery of a specific weapon (as in the one item in my inventory) or does mastery increase across the weapon category (like do I need to use the one power mace or just any power mace)

[smoky ember]

weapons of the same family share progress across the board, so the maces both share mastery along each class

so mastering a shock maul on zealot will master it on psyker and vet as well

for both marks

[signal gate]

go headtaker thrust for bosses

[sterile valve]

hey is there a list of the keywords this game uses? I've tried looking a couple up liek stagger or brittle and it just leads to reddit posts of people speculating

[zealous dome]

Power got renamed to Strength

[sterile valve]

fantastic tyvm!

[raw sage]

Caveat to this is that it's not renamed consistently

[smoky ember]

theres also a mod, better descriptions, which has more accurate descriptions for talents and blessings, and if it mentions power or rending, itll say what it does

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/210

but its not updated to the current patch

oops

[sterile valve]

Hey so trying to get my head around the blessing system are those blanked out alcoves gonna be unlocked or are they there to literally fill space

[smoky ember]

who knows, probably the latter unfortunately

[sterile valve]

I mean not like in a development sense, but as in me as a player

[smoky ember]

oh, then just taking up space

[signal gate]

no, every weapon only as little as 8 blessings

and as much as 12

depends on weapon

[smoky ember]

this is true

[sterile valve]

because if they aren't, that means one of the two weapons that has the power up special doesn't have the perk that buffs it

[smoky ember]

i forgot

[smoky ember]

which weapon?

[sterile valve]

the power maul and the crusher have the special where they electrify it and expload on next hit.

powermaul has a blessing that increases that blasts radius, crusher does not

and only has blessings for chaining hits which means it doesn't want you to use the special

[smoky ember]

that’s power maul only

crusher does not

[sterile valve]

?

[smoky ember]

the blessing

[sterile valve]

gotcha my b

[smoky ember]

it does not have the blessing that buffs the empowered attacks

[smoky ember]

all good

[sterile valve]

but damn that sucks. The crushers whole suite of blessings are about repeated hits (besides the one charging one which seems crap and would require you to run out the clock on the special)

the way I enjoyed that weapon was repeatedly buffing and swinging, in a way the blessings do not support

[smoky ember]

crusher’s best blessings are slaughterer and skullcrusher

the repeated hit blessings (trauma, hammerblow, etc) have been overshadowed

[void forge]

I mean if you want to invest in the special attack thrust is the way to go not the double explode which doesn't even work

[sterile valve]

skullcrusher looks to me (someone who hasnt used it) like a repeated hit type blessing

[void forge]

Repeatedly empowering and attacking has never been the best DPS by far

[sterile valve]

since the target needs to be staggered

[sterile valve]

but its fun :(

but yeah that tracks

[void forge]

Well considering skull crusher is the best crusher blessing, yeah it's good

[smoky ember]

kind of, skullcrusher applies a debuff to enemies that when they are staggered, they take more damage, but only when they’re staggered

and that debuff can be applied twice

[sterile valve]

it does look damn strong. Yeah i think its just me hooking into a way its not meant to be used and thinking its the way to go

[smoky ember]

so stagger an enemy, they will take 40% more damage, stagger them again, they take 80% more

[sterile valve]

true I just meant that the follow up while staggered is easy when you're just swinging, not when you're doing my bullshit

[void forge]

Not quite, the debuff is applied whether they are staggered or not

So just hit them twice, then stagger for 80% damage

[sterile valve]

I guess the special is to make your starting hit stronger then you just continue laying into them

[void forge]

Well, just one hit will be about enough to stagger most though

[sterile valve]

true

[smoky ember]

yarp

kinda

[smoky ember]

oh right

[void forge]

Yeah, you generally just want to use crusher special to open bulwarks or when you have a second to charge inbetween enemies

[smoky ember]

if you want to use the crusher, you can look in #zealot-class pins, there’s a crusher guide pinned, written by josho, it’s not been updated blessing wise, but combos and usage with skullcrusher are still accurate

[void forge]

Crusher is one of the few melees that truely trivializes bulwarks

[sterile valve]

I was using it like swing, dance back to activate swing repeat. Felt fun playing keep away so as to not get interupted. Taught me to dodge.

[sterile valve]

oh cheers I'll go check

[smoky ember]

yarp

crusher is very fun

it can do everything

[sterile valve]

ty you two, that was helpful

[smoky ember]

once you learn the combos

[smoky ember]

yeah of course

[gaunt nebula]

whats the gucci curio setup for verteran these days

blessing/perks

[smoky ember]

idk anything regarding vet anymore, you’ll have better luck just asking in #veteran-class

[gaunt nebula]

F

[smoky ember]

yah i’m usually the one most active in here

[gaunt nebula]

ogryn? curios

gun lugger/twin link?

ive just been running damage res

but i feel like there should be better options

[vocal nacelle]

gunner res, toughness, health, 1 sniper res

[gaunt nebula]

nifty, why not res stack?

is there DR?

[smoky ember]

yes, resistances are multiplicative

[vocal nacelle]

res as in revive?

[gaunt nebula]

wym? so 20 sniper res and 20 sniper res is 40 >

[smoky ember]

resistances to the same type are multiplicative, resistances to alternate types are not related in any way to each other

so sniper res does not affect gunner res

[vocal nacelle]

3x 20% sniper res is around 40% sniper res in total (dont quote me for exact value )

[smoky ember]

however stacking 2 sniper res or 2 gunner res will have diminishing returns

[gaunt nebula]

obv

[vocal nacelle]

so you just need 1

[gaunt nebula]

ahh so it does have DR

[smoky ember]

yes

[vocal nacelle]

and ogryn have built in 20% damage resistance

[gaunt nebula]

yeye

any other res besides sniper and gunner worth?

[vocal nacelle]

nope

[smoky ember]

not really

[gaunt nebula]

makes sense i suppose

i guess i neglected to specifiy but what curious base? all + wounds?

[smoky ember]

do not take wound curios unless you’re going martyrdom zealots

wound curios do not increase max health

it depends on the class, but i take 3 toughness curios

[gaunt nebula]

intresting, don't get downed 4head does seem like quite the strat

i like it

[smoky ember]

yah, preventing going down is much better than being able to go down more

i personally run 3 toughness, each with +toughness and +health, and 2 gunner resist

[gaunt nebula]

no sniper res?

[smoky ember]

and then the final one can be whatever

sniper res if you want it

i don’t find i need it

[gaunt nebula]

fair

[smoky ember]

i can’t remember the last time i died to a sniper

[gaunt nebula]

ahh so we dont have a way to raise blessing values on curios

rough

[smoky ember]

you can also swap some of the health or toughness for revive speed, ability cooldown

really whatever

i take it because it’s just a simple and easy way to make the build better

without having 2 think

2 toughness 1 stamina is also an option

[gaunt nebula]

so whats the play for trying to get 20% bless curios

[smoky ember]

only health curios can reach 21%

[gaunt nebula]

ah

[smoky ember]

toughness reaches 17%

stamina reaches +3

[gaunt nebula]

hmm ok whats the strat to get em

[smoky ember]

wounds reach +1

[gentle pivot]

do I need an ability to directly med stimm another player?

[smoky ember]

check brunt’s, melk, and you can buy random curios from melk

melk is the way i do it now

[gaunt nebula]

ye cuz max roll

does mystery acq give max tier stuff?

[smoky ember]

no

its gambling

[gaunt nebula]

F

[smoky ember]

unfortunately

[gaunt nebula]

noticing current melk curio offer is 16% tough bless is 17% max or did they miss max rolling bless?

[smoky ember]

17% is max

[gaunt nebula]

unlucky

[smoky ember]

it’s chance to get a 17%

[smoky ember]

it honestly isn’t that big of a deal of a 15 vs 17%

[gaunt nebula]

6% seems kinda big tho, meh long term grind goal

[smoky ember]

yah

[vocal nacelle]

2 toughness 1 health

[gaunt nebula]

ye thats what i went for

[vocal nacelle]

wound is

[gaunt nebula]

2 tough 1 health on each curio is tough + health + gunner on 2 then tough + health + sniper on the last

[vocal nacelle]

you can inject stimm to other player by holding right mouse and left click

[thin spindle]

Do you need to do all the class penances to reach 5K points

[vocal nacelle]

Around 80 % of total penance

[thin spindle]

Aw man... I don't know if I have it in me to level the others + play them actively

[amber idol]

How does 5% rending compare to 5% damage in terms of effective output?

[grim knoll]

what numbers should I be looking for in relics? What's the highest relic item level etc is there a resource for this?

[vocal nacelle]

relic as in curio? the max value curio can have is

• 17% toughness
• 21% health
• 3 stamina
• 1 wound

[grim knoll]

Awesome, thanks

Yeah meant curio

Is there any particular way to try and farm for maxed out curios? Melk is usually not selling anything too interesting

[vocal nacelle]

melk or armoury

[cloud adder]

Turns out, it's neither.
It's +15%
Somehow

[turbid dock]

Maybe it adds up multiplicatively + rounding up

[sinful summit]

It entirely depends
5% damage will apply globally, and 5% rending will only apply to certain enemies, ones with flak, carapace, maniacs or unyielding armor types benefit from it
rending is a buff that is basically armor penetration, but if we get into the nerd shit, it is an additive number to the number that dictates how much less damage your attack deals to armor, making your attacks deal more of their full damage to it. an example with the standard issue vet shovel, with this build i have here, a light attack hits a crusher to the head for 14 damage, which is pitiful. this shovel also has uncanny strike, which gives rending, so if i get one stack of it for 24% rending, now i hit the crusher to the head for 85 damage, which is roughly 6x as much damage from just 24% rending. cuz of how the math works on it, rending helps make attacks that deal low damage to armor deal WAY more than before, even with just a little bit of it
but it still only works on those armored enemies, the 5% damage will work on everything regardless what armortype it is

[amber idol]

thanks

[subtle frigate]

I feel like my proformance is all over the place.
at the start of the day malaice was not a challange but now i feel like it's impossble to get past.
I am playing with randoms but still.

[sinful summit]

if your preformance in malice is all over the place, it sounds to me like you havent gotten a hang of melee and/or general defensive basics and are just finding yourself in favorable situations sometimes, like the general flow of dodging, pushing, blocking, sliding, etc are what im talkin about

[subtle frigate]

i yeah.
I am playing pcyker rn and it's been diffcult to figure out how to surive

i was able to do domination with vet before

but i guess the class is more punishing

also my computer hitches sometimes during fights and that gets in the way at times

[sinful summit]

psyker is definitely a lot more fragile than vet, vet is honestly a little overtuned in that regard
so mastering the basics on psyker is honestly even more important tbh, cuz any slight mistake is much more punishing

outside of just being aware of where gunners are so youre not swiss cheesed and avoiding melee hits via pushing and dodging,
psyker has tons of ways to constantly generate toughness easily accessable at the top of the tree, so you can stay topped off quite easily so you dont get those bleedthrough hits with partial toughness that really hurt

[subtle frigate]

I also played zelot on release and could do heresy fairly often on that class.

[subtle frigate]

I see, it sucks leveling up as i feel like i'm pushed to go all the way down so i can get used to my options

[sinful summit]

idk if youre level 30 or not, but specifically this talent here is a godsend as long as you have some reliable source of crit chance, which plenty of common psyker weapons do, in addition to having the highest base crit chance at 7.5%

[subtle frigate]

I am level 15 now but my recent troubles started at level 13 to now

[subtle frigate]

I changed my build around.
i gave myself more toughness and when i build warp and then decrease it by hitting people i gain more toughness

[subtle frigate]

Turns our my issue was useing weapons at around the 200 power range is bad for dealing with stuff as things escalate.

[turbid dock]

Warp expenditure is universally agreed upon as underwhelming, but so is post nerf mettle

[fleet rivet]

best diff to farm gold?

auric heresy?

[sinful summit]

Maelstroms

Auric maelstroms can give up to 84k dockets

Normal maelstroms can also give quite a hefty amount considering the difficulty, you should find them to be not a problem if you're fine in auric

[fleet rivet]

maelstroms?

nah am a noob

[sinful summit]

Well that's the best way to farm dockets
It's like not even comparable to any other difficulty or modifier

[covert wedge]

is penetrating flame + everlasting flame a solid setup on crit zealot?

for the flamer

or is blaze away + everlasting better

[thick dust]

Is this penance broken? I just did a third mission without being downed but it didn't tick up

I made sure it was malice

[smoky ember]

even with crits, it’d be better to take blaze away penetrating flames/overpressure, unless ur going for the memes

[misty bear]

How do you do the movement tech on the knife/dueling sword? Do you just slide in the middle of the heavy windup while sprinting?

I know you can go really fast by just spamming heavies while sprinting, but I saw someone else also sliding doing it and it seemed to be only slightly slower

[supple helm]

What counts as a "salvo" for semi-automatic guns?

For instance, how does Opening Salvo work on the Infantry Lasgun?

[smoky ember]

shooting within a short period, you can see the buff on the bottom left to see how lenient it is

when it’s brighter, it’s active

when it’s greyed out, it’s inactive, and not counted as a salvo

[rigid wasp]

Opening salvo triggers when the gun's recoil resets, which is different values depending on whether you're hipfire or aiming

Aiming resets it almost instantly, so opening salvo is basically free damage

[thin spindle]

Hey is the mission that released with Secrets of the Machine God still around? I started playing again a couple days ago and I still haven't run into it

[coral violet]

it is still around

gotta wait for it to spawn though

[thin spindle]

Cool, thanks

[lime idol]

This is untrue, it depends on weapon

[worldly adder]

Can weapons have more potential points past four 80% stats and one 60% stat?

[quick remnant]

Yes

But sometime the numbers bug out

[rigid wasp]

By semi-automatic I assume headhunters vigilants, since they're the only semi-automatic guns with salvo blessings that I know of

Unless there's another

[lime idol]

Infantry Lasguns have opening salvo but have very slow recoil reset

[rigid wasp]

I forgot they existed

[lime idol]

[rigid wasp]

I have mailed you a nailbomb for reminding me of them

[lime idol]

Yea they’re kind of low presence outside of veteran

[rigid wasp]

Please open your package carefully

Preferably very close to your face

[rigid wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/luna-cat-shaking-head-gif-13593506101986476598

[silk condor]

What am I doing wrong in the rolling steel minigame? I use WASD to control the circle and not touch the sides but it keeps kicking me out after a few seconds.

[stoic locust]

Are you getting stabbed

[smoky ember]

getting attacked will cancel it unless ur zealot with TWBS or ogryn

[livid yew]

I haven’t found much for new info on it but

How do I raise my weapons stats? I don’t understand the [50/80]% or if it’s even possible to raise that stat

[silk condor]

I swear I wasn't being attacked 🤔

That sounds the most plausible though

[smoky ember]

empowering at hadron

[silk condor]

50/80 is the current/max power level for that gear. The greater your mastery level for that gear, the closer you can get to max when you let hadron empower it

[hoary ginkgo]

Does truelevel account for levels across all your characters or only the specific character you're using at the time? If someone who plays hundreds of hours on any particular character decides to switch to another it won't show? The new character would appear "low leveled"? My zealot would have a different truelevel compared to my veteran is I played them unequally?

[vocal nacelle]

level are separated from each character

[sinful summit]

in character select you can see your account level, but like bristly said, they are seperate per character

[hoary ginkgo]

Ok thanks guys

[turbid dock]

Is account level a seperate mod? I've never seen that

[sinful summit]

nah its just there

it may be a setting and i forgot about it

but its part of truelevel

[dusky prawn]

Hello !
I upgraded to 500 a lot of weapons with what I consider perfect rolls since last big update. I had a lot of Diamantine but now I’m running out of it. Have you the same issue ? I still have a lot of Gold and Plasteel but Diamantine seems to be the problem… Will we be able to trade other ressources ?

[vocal nacelle]

Nope but you can sell unused weapon for diamantine

[dusky prawn]

Ok, thank you !

[gusty whale]

diamantine useful at last

never thought I'd see the day

though i guess my wish of "let us spend diamantine to take the locks off of weapons" came true

in a roundabout way

[stone flint]

do psyker weapons with peril related perks work while i have my blitz equipped?

[vocal nacelle]

Weapon blessing? No
Talent tree related to warp damage or peril? Yes

[fleet kettle]

(Assuming you have Ability Regen and Toughness already on the curio)
How do we feel about toughness regen speed?

Considering it's only going to kick in when you're not fighting, and there are a ton of other ways to artificially regen it, are enemy res/corr. res just better here?

[smoky ember]

toughness regen speed only applies to coherency, which applies only when you are not in melee combat

[smoky ember]

so resistances, health, toughness, (revive speed if ur good)

are all better

[rough cove]

Soo eeeh how the hell did i make a weapon with the dump stat being 69%?

[smoky ember]

the N/A stat is bugged, i think its a mod conflict or a game bug

[rough cove]

also this is my empower screen for that weapon. I literally cant empower it

[smoky ember]

lmfao

restart your game

[rough cove]

yeah ill try that

there we go, hadron fixed herself

silly tech priest messing with my weapon

[deft estuary]

what blessings/perks for vigilant autogun?

[deft estuary]

blessing

[smoky ember]

headhunter/surgical deadly accurate

ghost is pretty good too

idk about perks

[glossy jewel]

Do modifiers affect mastery xp? Or just any damnation will give the same?

[glossy jewel]

For those wondering, a low intesity damnation gave me the same mastery xp as auric damnation

[left heart]

Okay I seem to have lost the plot. After this change I can find no way to buy the Columnus/Vraks Mk V Infantry Autogun or the Vraks/Columnus Mk III Vigilant Autogun. I've tried buying Vigilant and Infantry guns, and all I get are Agripinaas and Graias. Where do I get these to now? I can't find them in the armory with my Vet and Zealot.

Ahhh, I missed a vital part. The 'mark' unlock in the mastery table. Applied like a cosmetic. I see I see

[sinful summit]

yup, they can be changed freely once unlocked via mastery early on in the mastery track

[vocal nacelle]

It's okay on ogryn but there's better option

[subtle frigate]

What is the difference between the different devil's claw marks?

[sinful summit]

literally just attack patterns/moveset

the mk1 is kinda bad honestly
mk4 and mk7 are better, and which one is better out of those two just comes down to which moveset you like

those two marks combos are generally the reverse of each other

[subtle frigate]

I will try out the mark 4 right now and see how i feel but i have gotten comfortable with mark 7

[tropic temple]

What would you guys say is the dump stat for power sword

[vocal nacelle]

mobility

[gusty whale]

cleabe targets

[dapper shard]

Cleave targets

[storm glen]

How does the weapon xp work? Like how exactly do you get it? By getting kills or finishing missions?

[vocal nacelle]

finishing mission, xp amount is per difficulty

[storm glen]

Whats the highest item level for whites?

[dapper shard]

500 - just like for the rest of items

[brave barn]

hey guys Im trying to download numeric UI mods in the game for QoL. I got it in the folder but it seem like its not working.
If someone have time, can i pull up the stream in vc and show you?

[smoky ember]

i can’t vc but you can screenshot it

screenshot your mods folder, and your modloadorder text file

[remote pivot]

how do people play these dark maps??? Im running infernus staff, and still cant see lol

[smoky ember]

you learn the maps well enough after enough time

even with my 1200ish hours i still get turned around on some of them though lmfao

[cloud adder]

The Emperor guides?

[remote pivot]

i see nothing

i just see team

and i hold right click

and walk forward

and sometimes i kill stuff

so dumb that flaming enemies dont light up the map though haha, they just glow

[worldly adder]

Hadron is flirting in the only way she knows how: numbers.

[zealous dome]

Ah yes
L33T speak

Or whatever

[rough cove]

i'm her favorite varlet 😊

[green fjord]

Can someone give me breakdown of Combat Shotguns marks?

[prisma wraith]

Agripinaa: tight spread, slug special round

Kantrael: average spread, incendiary special round

Lawbringer(?): wide spread, big horizontal shot special round

At least that’s how I remember them

To elaborate slightly, the lawbringer(?) special shot shoots in a wide horizontal line for crowd control.

I also think they renamed the lawbringer to something else, I forgor

[unreal plinth]

About "Full Bore" Passive on various shot gun, is this 'strength' just a raw damage?

[zealous dome]

Strength is damage, cleave and stagger

It was named POWER before they changed it

[unreal plinth]

Hows cleave work with gun? Is it just penetration?

[dapper shard]

Full Bore is a total power level type of buff, I.e., whenever it’s active, it boosts all type of damage you deal, including say, DoTs

[dapper shard]

Yep, penetration as in - you get to cleave more targets before your shot stops

Strength is very uneven in its explanation though - replacing one buzz word with another effectively changed nothing

[unreal plinth]

Thank you very much.

[dapper shard]

In some cases it’s a melee/ranged power modifier (Headtaker or Overwhelming Fire), other times it’s a total power modifier (Slaughterer)

[rigid wasp]

Whats the highest power level brunt is offering for fully leveled class?

[raw sage]

wait, Slaughterer works for EVERYTHING?!

[dapper shard]

It does, yeah, or at least should

Headtaker is its direct competitor, but Headtaker does not increase say, DoT damage when stacked, only directly melee-related parameters

[raw sage]

But headtaker works on hits, so is better vs. lone bosses vs slaughterer which requires kills, no?

But that's hilarious, I didn't realize that Slaughterer worked for everything

[worthy comet]

Slaughterer seems better for horde, but headtaker helps a lot with armor swarm

[dapper shard]

That's one application, but Headtaker can also proc multiple times per one swing, so it's easier to stack in dense crowds (may depend on cleave, though), so it reaches its full potential "quicker" (Slaughterer can also proc multiple times per swing, but it's less likely, whereas Headtaker can easily get full (or 4?) stacks per swing with say, a Brutal Momentum Caxe)

[raw sage]

yeah, agreed with that

Deciding between the two is always a dilemma for me

[smoky ember]

slaughterer is better as a whole imo, it’s an extra 15% power

[raw sage]

if you kill stuff

[lime idol]

Take both

[raw sage]

I kinda am tempted to for shits and giggles

[zealous dome]

Chain axe

[grim knoll]

What stat should I be fine with being low on the accatran

[smoky ember]

collateral or mobility

[grim knoll]

kk thanks

does brunt not sell mkIV dueling swords? I'm only getting MKII's

[smoky ember]

you can change the mark in your inventory

[grim knoll]

oh sick thanks

[sterile valve]

Hey uh whats the deal with these in the mastery menu. Is it a slightly modified version that will appear in shops or just a skin that requires a menu I haven't found to apply it. Because it reads like the latter but when I go to cosmetics in the weapons section it just ain't there

[smoky ember]

claim it at the penance lady

[prisma wraith]

Those are "marks," other versions of the same weapon and can be changed when viewing your weapon in your inventory

[smoky ember]

i can’t remember her name

[smoky ember]

they’re asking about the skins from the mastery leveling i believe

oh

wait

no

sorry

ur right

[prisma wraith]

[smoky ember]

@sterile valve yeah you change marks in the inventory, on the upper right

[prisma wraith]

These different versions generally differ in moveset, damage, and sometimes a different stat

[sterile valve]

Hestia prime. I remember A) because I started the other week and b) I think hestia the Greek goddess is neat

[smoky ember]

pawesome

[sterile valve]

so thats why it didn't show up gotcha

[abstract basalt]

Does buying/obtaining higher level gear affect the armory exchange level of gear?

[vocal zealot]

where do i post lfg lol

[abstract basalt]

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1045597890472579075
This might be what you're looking for. There are three other sub channels here based on region. The Lexicanum describes how to do LFG.

[signal gate]

no

no vt2 rules, just operative level scaling 1-30 determines your rng

[abstract basalt]

Thank you.

[astral cave]

AMD Darktide settings:
Uninstall adrenaline software, use MSI afterburner instead.
Run Driver only, update Driver only.
This resolves GPU stuttering
Intel XESS, no FSR, no frame generation
Ambient occlusion -LOW
Screen Space Reflections-medium
Cut all decals and lower slide settings in half or set to minimum.

[smoky ember]

wha

i have frame gen on, adrenaline software, most decal and slide settings high

i don’t have any issues

[prisma wraith]

Does opportunist activate on chain weapon special attacks?

Can't seem to find a solid answer

[dapper shard]

It should, yes, because rev attacks against anything that isn’t a monster will eventually put their target into staggered state

[supple helm]

Why do people say the Mk XII recon lasgun is the best? To me it just seems to have the worst ammo economy with the lowest damage per shot.

[spice shadow]

on Vet or other class?

[supple helm]

I'm a vet main aye

Is it because of that vet skill that lets you build up to 16 stacks of brittleness on repeated hits? Because I see how that could stack with a high fire rate weapon like the Mk XII.

[spice shadow]

iirc its to maximize the effects of all the "on-hit" buffs you can get

[supple helm]

I guess it's good with infernus too

[spice shadow]

Onslaught, Infernus, and Headhunter are all per-hit so the faster you fire, the more procs

ammo use is fine as long as the target is dead

imo the main issue with the recons is people just full auto spray with them

but Recons turn inaccurate after like 2 seconds of firing leading to a lot of "missed" shots

[supple helm]

I actually just tested it a bit in the meat grinder. On malice difficulty at least, the amount of crushers you can kill per full ammo load is actually not that much worse on the XII than on the other marks, even with only bodyshots, as long as you got onslaught and infernus.

It seems the stacking buffs are really just that nutty

[spice shadow]

yeah and you're usually switching targets a lot

so in actual missions, you want the fire rate as you'll rarely be focusing one guy for more than like a second

sustained dps is fine but you typically want burst

[supple helm]

Main reason for me is laser beam go brrrrrrrr

[spice shadow]

indeed :p

[supple helm]

Also the reason why I prefer the vet's shovel over the meta combat axe

[spice shadow]

I miss when Shock Trooper proc'd on crit chains too :c

[supple helm]

Shovel looks cooler to me lol

[spice shadow]

yeah I'm waiting for the powered weapon fix myself

[supple helm]

The what now?

[spice shadow]

combat axe for me is just a substitute until I can use my good weapons

[spice shadow]

all powered weapons (including force swords) have a funny little bug where you can't refresh their special mode

so it'll just turn off wheni its duration ends

so your sword will just turn off mid-swing lol

[acoustic imp]

is it only me here that thinks deay shoud bring back auto reload for the executioner's stance? think deay need to remove it for the ogryn to than whan it comes to the point-blank barrage

[vocal nacelle]

nope, i like my ogryn that way

[small geyser]

^

That's half the point of PBB, it doubles your ranged uptime

[vocal nacelle]

if my ogryn can reload his stubber in 1s then yea its fine instant reload get removed

[small geyser]

Even with just the single ult node and none of the extras it's wonderful

[agile juniper]

Hey uh how do i get Malleus Monstrum?

You cant just knock half a Monstrocity's health off with a single brain burst, not as far as im aware

[vocal nacelle]

multiple BB

[agile juniper]

oh that explains it

[vocal nacelle]

you just need your damage to be 50% from total monster health

[agile juniper]

i see

[vocal nacelle]

and private game

[static hemlock]

Anyone here willing to assist with getting the Just a Flesh Wound penance?

[frail snow]

how do you beat the twins? randoms in my team just go down too quickly and the entire team loses

[zealous dome]

Melee Rodin's shield
Shoot Rinda's shield
You can step on the radius of the mines them walk out of it before detonating
Rodin should die first because of the mines
At some point of their HP specialists and elites will spawn to ruin your day, take them out asap

And don't stay in the gas

Rinda will apply pressure constantly

But she has a predictable move set

[frail snow]

yeah the specialists and elite spawn and they wipe out my teamates. how do you tell the difference between rinda and rodin?

[zealous dome]

Rinda is the Sword one
Rodin is the Gun/Mines

Also some classes have specific builds for twins

Ask their respective channel for more info if you want to

[smoky ember]

according to gameslantern, rinda's shield still takes 2x melee but 1x ranged, but rodin's takes 3x melee and 0.6x ranged

so if thats correct

its still better to melee rinda

[frail snow]

does reviving cancel out infiltrate?

[lime idol]

Completing a revive/rescue ends stealth

[fair carbon]

Considering I'm pretty new to Darktide, I want to ask. Is it due to the recent influx of players (due to the game being on sale recently) that seem to just wander off by themselves, get down, then basically cripple the team? I'm trying to find the root of the problem more than anything else, weather its a low-level thing, new player thing or if this is just in general with the game outside of high difficulty play.

To be clear, I'm a level 18 Zealot. I went into Malice difficulty, the Veteran and other Zealot basically went MIA 3 minutes in, and the ogryn thought he could solo 2 maulers, a rager and a pox flamer about 50 meters away from the closest ally (which was me). Nevertheless, I couldn't rez him, he got captured, i later got him back after soloing and dodging plenty of mauler attacks, with little to no help from the other two.

To add, I'm just SLIGHTLY annoyed at this, I want to tackle harder missions but I feel like I'm being gatekept by what I deem "Call Of Duty Players"

[lime idol]

The new/returning players aren’t very good, yea

U should still try to be good enough that u can fight everything by yourself alone though, that’s pretty much a necessary skill for higher difficulties

[fair carbon]

Slowly but surely getting there. Ones I struggle a tiny bit with is ragers. But I'm getting their pattern down bit by bit

[lime idol]

Use weapons that can reliably break their attack combos, it’ll help a lot

[fair carbon]

Im not sure which ones can do that. But my favourite is thunder hammer

[hard goblet]

Inspect your weapon's attack combo and check their values for the different attacks they have.

For example, the push attack on the Rashad combat axe is capable of knocking ragers out of their attack animation.

[fair carbon]

Understood, thank you for the info!

[lime idol]

This is not accurate

[lime idol]

I have a veteran-weapon chart for important stagger breakpoints

For your case, the thunder hammers are unfortunately unable to break rager combo in 1 hit without using special-activated attacks

Maybe dorn will make a stagger breakpoint chart when his guide comes out

[hard goblet]

Oh sorry, thought stagger values were listed in there. Might have been misrembering a mod.

[fair carbon]

I mean I take the stun grenades anyway, and I have charge. So I do have interrupts regardless. I just take the hammer because funny bonk brick on a stick.

Side note, the Chainsword is kinda sick. I like the general feel to it. Specifically Tigrus Heavy Eviscerator

[vocal nacelle]

It's pretty simple actually, most new player thought this game is just reskinned left 4 dead 2 where you can just shoot everything

Then they ignore block, dodge, sprint, tagging, supression, weapon combo mechanic

Tldr "gamers don't read"

[late valley]

The benefit is some people will see this and stop

Some people will see this and go "Hey... this is quite interesting" and they'll learn.

[lime idol]

Yes, the stagger values listed there are not accurate

For example, it lists chainsword XIIIg’s H1 stagger vs maniac as 39, when it’s actually 23.625 (not enough on its own to break rager combo)

[warped flame]

Some games I load into have random large instances of desync or lag that make my inputs sometimes drop, is it a problem with the servers or me and how fix

[stone flint]

can you get beast of nurgle/bosses in the training area or just via that spawn mod

[vocal nacelle]

mod

[smoky ember]

creature spawned mod

[stone flint]

with this perk, you basically just want to tap-fire for bursts of 4, correct?

[vocal nacelle]

until the recoil resets to 0

[eager wigeon]

Is there a group of Auric Maelstormers?

[smoky ember]

most people in the server do, but you can also ask/look in #vox-lfg-lexicanum

[eager wigeon]

[amber idol]

Is there a list of weapons that includes damage per total ammo reserve? I know the lasguns are pretty efficient, but I'm curious where the rest of the weapons stand.

[smoky ember]

no, none of the guides have that i believe, but it wouldnt be particularly hard to calculate either

just divide the magazine size by the shot power

er

no

multiply

[amber idol]

I guess that's true

[steady kite]

ok but...where O.o

[twilit lava]

hello
im using a ryzen 5 5600 with an integrated graphics card

on low settings in missions i will receive screen stutering

how to fix it

[cloud adder]

I think with a graphic card, that is not integrated
But maybe try lower screen resolution, like 1600x900
Check if the Frame Generation is off.
Bloom and what can be off, Off

[twilit lava]

ok i will try

if not

i will have to wait for my dad to comeback from saudi so he can give me his graphics card

[zealous dome]

Oh uh
You're like 8 days late

Sorry to tell you that

[twilit lava]

If you were playing during that time and your still confused on what it does

it just increases the amount of enemies in the horde

[peak sinew]

hey, I am kinda new to the game and there's something I don't quite get. From what I understand weapon rating only changes how high that weapons stats are right? So what does curio rating do?

[shy stone]

Curio (base) rating determines how much of the initial value it gives (13-17% toughness / 1-3 Stamina / 17-21% Health). Wound curios are not affected

[peak sinew]

thanks mate

[rustic mulch]

The event has already ended, but FatShark has not removed it from the news? Great job.

[patent cedar]

Idk if this is the right channel but I have a bug where my chat doesn't work, it doesn't appear nor can I type in it, is there a fix?

[steady kite]

ended ???? but we never see any date of it ?

with my friend we waiting this during all the month xD

[uneven bough]

chat doesn't work for me either, seems to be a Fatshark issue

[zealous dome]

#📢news-bulletin message

[steady kite]

arf

[zealous dome]

Yeah

[stray yacht]

Anyone would be willing to do a hard mode Orthus secret bells thing? Just can't do it in pubs

[red ginkgo]

LFG boss, you'll find better luck there

#vox-lfg-nasa #vox-lfg-emea #vox-lfg-apac

[smoky ember]

no, it was hordes with flak armor and higher hitmass

[rare wolf]

is precognition or mercy killer more damage these days

shouldn't 60% finesse > 60% weakspot?

[zealous dome]

Mercy killer is only usable if you're a veteran with serrated blade vet

[rare wolf]

im talking about the math

i understand where its located

[zealous dome]

Then yeah
Finesse is weakspot and crit then it should be better than just weakspot

Hmmm

Since vet has Desperado and Precision Strikes....

Wonder if I could get away with Precognition+Mercy Killer

[dapper shard]

You likely could

US is likely not going to help you immensely against armour types other than Carapace

[worldly adder]

Does the rating on curios matter anymore?

[sonic sierra]

is there a video or text guide that one recommends with general tips for difficulty 4,5 and auric? Me and my buds are now breezing through 3 but still struggle with 4

[patent jasper]

It never did

[worldly adder]

Oh...

[patent jasper]

The only part that matters on curio is the main stat %

[kindred inlet]

just know how to fight against the key enemies of the game: bulwarks, crushers, maulers, snipers, tox+fire bombers, bosses, ragers, and large amounts of non-elite enemies. also ranged enemies in general

your teammates all need to know their strengths and weaknesses against these enemies and know their class/build's best way to deal with them quickly.

[patent jasper]

Which is a max of 3 stam 17 toughness and 21 hp

[vapid dew]

That is wrong

+3 stam is plus 2 on anything below 410

[sinful summit]

Even if it says +3, a 400 +3 stam curio is fake and will round down to 2 when you load into a mission

[zenith falcon]

Hey, is it considered "bad manners" go to damnation with a non-maxed out weapon? Like, everything else is maxed apart from say your melee (which you are leveling).

[little coyote]

nah

[vital blaze]

Depends on how uptight the other players are, and whether you can hold your own. Personally I don't really care how bad someone is or what their build looks like if they play with the team.

You're more likely to get raged at on auric if someone thinks your purple weapon with T2 blessings is the reason they lost their auric examplar penance progress.

[smoky ember]

"but i will say this
learn to block on sedition and uprising
learn to dodge on malice (dodging melee , avoid getting disabled by specials/ push the poxburster)
learn how to ping an enemy on heresy (tag special if you cant kill it)
learn something called situational awareness on damnation ( your teammate are disabled, help them)
in auric you learn the priority list (because there's always a special and elite , know which one to kill first)"

[sonic sierra]

thanks advanced lamb and meow for the tips

[zenith falcon]

Gotcha, thank you

[stray yacht]

I'm having a weird bug in my game where the audio randomly starts popping in and out, it really throws me off
Does anyone know what may be causing it and what I could do to remedy it?

[vital blaze]

Kind of a known issue. Worse sometimes, or for some people. I don't think there's a single reliable fix.

[stray yacht]

Yeah I tried looking everywhere, it honestly annoys me a lot

It is what it is I guess

[vital blaze]

Intel or AMD?

[stray yacht]

CPU?

[vital blaze]

yeah

[stray yacht]

AMD

I currently have a Ryzen 7 5700x

What has been fixing the issue for me is restarting my entire computer, which is hardly convenient

[vital blaze]

I'm trying to find a post I ran across the other day. May be relevant.

I remembered incorrectly. Different problem. https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/known-issue-connected-devices-disconnecting-during-play/63159/2?page=3

[fervent kraken]

what kind-of does it for me is fiddling with the "speaker settings" dropdown in audio, doesn't fix it forever but fixes it for the rest of the time the game is running

[vital blaze]

I'm not sure why restarting the computer would be different than restarting the game. Sounds like something lower level if so.

[stray yacht]

What do you do specifically?

[vital blaze]

Other than making sure you're running latest drivers, you might also try fiddling with the sound mix settings in DT, disabling mods, and perhaps adjusting the number of threads in the launcher settings.

[fervent kraken]

i think i change it off of "stereo headphones" and change it back, but looking at what cutty is saying, my issue might be more benign than yours

[stray yacht]

I looked into a reddit post about the game not really understanding what to do with your threads so limiting it to the same amount of cores generally gives it a slight boost in performance, and I can confirm that it is the case

Generally it doesn't sound like a hardware issue, if anything restarting my PC just dumps the cache and is a placebo

[stray yacht]

It varies

Sometimes it just one or two small cuts in two hours of gameplay other times a whole mission sounds like when you were a little kid in a party and kept covering and uncovering your ears with your hands in succession

[vital blaze]

I've experienced both, yeah. I can't correlate it with anything.

[stray yacht]

Guess I'll just pray for the machine spirit that the enginseers at Fat Shark eventually may come up with a fix for it, and a two handed chain axe

[fervent kraken]

mmph, praise the omnissiah or something

[vital blaze]

Over several hours last night, I actually had the most frequent and severe problems earlier in the session. The only thing different about that and the later runs is I was dropping down to lower difficulties to help a friend level up a new char.

[raw sage]

Clearing your system audio buffer.

[vital blaze]

That would be low level, yes.

[raw sage]

Given that all of DT's ongoing unresolved issues seem to be low-level (like memory leaks), I wouldn't rule it out

[vital blaze]

Sure, but they can fix a memory leak in DT. They can't fix a system audio buffer issue that persists after the application exits.

[raw sage]

Unless it's an issue with how the system audio buffer is filled and not cleared

[cloud adder]

What is the coherence in Darktide.
Is it only for the aura effects and the passive generation of toughness or does it have other effects?

[smoky ember]

coherency is the aura effects and toughness regen, yes

[cloud adder]

Great, thanks

[undone moth]

Having issue with severe performance drops solely when playing Magistrati Oubliette on Damnation.

I load in fine, performance is smooth right until I reach the open section across the bridge with the stairs on both sides of the healing machine then my frames tank, gpu spikes to 99% and it becomes unplayable for the rest of the mission. Even if I back out to the hub, my gpu sits at 99% till I close and restart the game. It's usually at no higher than 40% in the hub so It makes no sense why it's at 99% after that specific mission.

No other missions/difficultly combination causes this. I know it's not hardware related and literally no other combination of missions and difficulty affects performance.

[undone moth]

Even stranger is playing the Twins special assignment (same map) on Damnation does not produce the gpu spike issue even though it's the exact same map and difficulty. Very confused.

[round verge]

I tried a search but didn't have any luck:

Are weapons and gear in shops based on what I'm currently wearing, or just the highest level that I own?

[normal elk]

Gear is relative to your character level.

[round verge]

So, once I hit 30, is a hidden "character level" determining gear still?

My gear seems to be level 400ish and I'm 30, but that isn't the cap.

[smoky ember]

no

[round verge]

Looking into it more, I see people talking about a modifier score. But my game doesn't seem to have that.

[frail snow]

best blessing and perks for infantry autogun? rn rolling crit damage and crit chance and sustained fire, I assume crit damage and chance would be good for the gun because its fully auto

[edgy siren]

If i swtich a gun mark why does it say N/A on every stat and they are all 100%

[viral yacht]

that a fatshark bug

just switch to different gun and it change

its more of a visual bug

[lime idol]

Crit chance yes (for this gun’s mk V & VIII spherically)
Crit damage no

25% flak, 5% crit chance, dum dum + deathspitter

[solid hawk]

how do i fix this

happens when i change marks

[raw sage]

Weapon customization mod?

[solid hawk]

i have that on yes, figured it only messed with visuals

[raw sage]

Turn it off and you'll magically see the bug fixed.

Shit wasn't updated for any of the latest patches so something deeper broke.

[solid hawk]

okay thank you

[abstract basalt]

Do trappers sometimes not make their sound sometimes? I swear they sneak up on me.

[raw sage]

MIA audio bug from when too many spawn

Pretty common for me in auric maelstroms

always make a habit of turning around 😛

[abstract basalt]

Ah, thank you. I'll have to start turning around more. Glad I'm not that crazy.

[zealous dome]

The alternative is setting your audio mix preset to dynamic low, see if it helps

(no guarantees)

[opaque pebble]

whats the difference between the +25% damage perks and the +10% ranged/melee damage perks, surely the 25 is just better?

[signal gate]

10% is more broad but mainly only elite is ever picked, 25% armor perks are more limited but certain ones just give amazing breakpoints. 10% crit dmg/weakspot damage are trash and shouldn't be taken (they only apply to the bonus damage from the crit or weakspot and not the entire hit)

[raw sage]

Flak tho

[calm nymph]

Can someone explain the total deaths for me? I joined in like near at the first drop down next to the med but like how I can't even imagine
I need answers

[rigid wasp]

The tide was darker than expected

[opaque pebble]

anygood ways to farm purging flames for the zealot since it seems to be bugged?

[zealous dome]

Enhanced blitz maelstrom

[normal elk]

I don't fully understand your question. If you are referring to gear you buy then you'll find 500 rated items at the guy with missions, and you'll find a variety of ratings at the regular gear store. If you mean gear you gain from missions it is also random (though higher based upon level). If you mean gear y ou already own you'll need to upgrade it if you want 500 ratings.

[honest vortex]

Hi, what's the highest base level of gear in the stores? I can buy 340 guns from Melk and 270 from the Armoury right now, how high do those go?

[cloud adder]

500

[heady talon]

Im early game still, should I pay attention to the max stats on a weapon for base rating rather than current stats? I think i have a good one but im not positive

[smoky ember]

the ideal stat distribution on most weapons is 80 on all stats except defenses or mobility

but as you level, i’d recommend you just pay attention to current stats

[heady talon]

Probably just focus on getting to level 30 and then start stressing about making good weapons?

[rigid wasp]

Yeah

[smoky ember]

yarp

[round verge]

Can my Zealot use a braced autogun my Veteran received?
edit: looks like the answer is no.

[void forge]

yeah inventories are not shared

but masteries are

unless youre ogryn who has only ogryn weapons

[sterile valve]

hey so I've seen folks talk about a "dump stat" for their weapons, and I'm assuming they mean the stuff in this box here

my question is how do you dump a stat on a weapon?

like I know how to increase all of my stats at hadron's, and I know weapons naturally come with variations on their stats, so do I have to find a weapon with the stat distribution I want just randomly, or is there a way to manually futz with it and move the stats around.

[sinful summit]

The only way to affect the max potential stats of the weapon is to buy a new one

[sterile valve]

damn

[vocal nacelle]

BUY BUY BUY

until you reach the correct dump stat

[sterile valve]

well that answers another question I was muling over which was why not just ditch existing weapons when you can buy new ones

ok that begs the question; how do I identify one that is properly dumpstatted

like im sure there are lists out there with which one is the dump stat but how do I find one with perfect ivs so to speak, where i know the dump stat cant go lower

[vocal nacelle]

perfect stat is 4 80% 1 60%

[sterile valve]

and is there a list? People around here seem to be able to rattle the right answer off whenever someone asks

[vocal nacelle]

there's no list

most dumpstat is defense/mobility/stagger collateral (inspect this one first if collateral affect damage its not a dumpstat)

exception for forcesword the dump stat is warp resist

[sterile valve]

cheers mate

[smoky ember]

you can usually just ask in the respective class chat and they’ll answer, but as a general rule, @vocal nacelle is correct

there are a few exceptions (evis is the first that comes to mind)

[sterile valve]

oh?

cause thats my current favourite weapon sooo

ok im seeing mobility but not too low which is what I have so sick

[smoky ember]

evis mk15 dumps cleave targets

mk3 can dump cleave targets too, but you will lose some effectiveness

and mk3, with mobility dumpstat

you only lose about 2% dodge distance

so mk3 is better to dump mobility imo

but mk15 dumps cleave targets 100%, you only lose 1 hitmass

[sterile valve]

this is what I've been using

[smoky ember]

and 10 cleave is plenty

[sterile valve]

so probably fine but look out for another

[smoky ember]

thats fine, a 4 80 1 60 would be better

but

thats plenty fine

your damage stats are fine

and you arent gonna lose anything significant with mobility and cleave

when everything is upgraded*

[sterile valve]

yeah this all feels more like what I expected going into a game like this. I thought it got taken out with the recent update but seems like not entirely

[smoky ember]

its soooo much better

[sterile valve]

oh no doubt

[smoky ember]

itll take like, 10 weapons about

to get a god roll

then just upgrade it

and its perfect

so much better

[sterile valve]

like I see all the stuff that I assume was just random before,

[smoky ember]

yeah

it was random stats, random perks and blessings

[sterile valve]

it just strikes me as odd to go 95% of the way there and then just... stop

[smoky ember]

i think here is fine tbh

its still a little incentive to spend dockets

because if they went 100%, then dockets would have no purpose

i have like 3 million rn that im never gonna spend

[sterile valve]

fair. Its a pain in the ass for me rn since I'm leveling all 4 classes so Im stretched kinda thin (low level missions dont pay too well)

but yeah overtime it irons out

[smoky ember]

id recommend you stick with one class

[sterile valve]

been through this song and dance before with warframe and deep rock

[smoky ember]

get one class to level 30, so you can play heresy and damnation

then focus on another class

doing them all at once is gonna suck

[sterile valve]

hmm yeah so then I can circumvent the money thing

[smoky ember]

yarp

id recommend you get zealot to 30 first

[sterile valve]

honestly its what I've been up to, so far, so great to hear

[smoky ember]

zealot can help teach melee combat, which is tied with #1 most important thing in this game imo

the other thing is situational awareness, but thats mostly important in damnation/aurics

[sterile valve]

true. then I can move on to veteran who will teach me to fire a gun while looking through the bricks this game calls ironsights

[smoky ember]

lmfao

vet is boring imo

can be fun with certain builds

[sterile valve]

jk jk im getting better but still

[smoky ember]

(helbore keystoneless exec stance, or weapon specialist DB)

but most builds with vet r very boring imo

[vocal nacelle]

grenadier vet build

[smoky ember]

boorriiing

strong?

yes

boring?

yes

[vocal nacelle]

its more fun than usual plasma

just throw frag at the kitchen sink

[brisk crag]

I often get a message when loading the chara select screen from title screen saying the connection to darktide servers seem slow and to check my network, but my network seems totally fine? Are darktide servers just under heavy load or something?

Aaand... disconnected.

[stone flint]

is there any real difference in the firsst 2 combat axe marks

i noticed the third one at least has a cleave stat

[dapper shard]

which is meaningless

The one that has finesse and otherwise identical attacks as Antax does - Rashad - is the better best one

[stone flint]

yeah Achyls seems to just have one more heavy attack. doesnt even seem like the weapon needs different marks at that rate lol

[raw smelt]

Does slide after dodge use dodges ?

[dapper shard]

Dodge-slides should use dodges, yes

[smoky ember]

yes, a dodge slide consumes 2 dodges

sliding will also prevent dodges refreshing

but i don’t believe sprinting does, but spamming slide from sprint will prevent you getting your dodges back

[raw smelt]

i will stick to regular dodges then, thanks

[smoky ember]

slide dodges are best for making distance, like dodge sliding backwards from a poxburster

but they’re very situational and rarely ever needed

even with bursters i usually just dodge twice

[raw smelt]

i tried to dodge-slide to the sides in melee but that was counterproductive

[smoky ember]

yeah most of the time just dodge normally

[cloud adder]

when the game disconnects from server, right at the end of the mission in the elevator animation, do you still get the reward?

[raw smelt]

What exactly is critical hit ? Its just more damage or it gets extra stagger and cleave? (melee)

[smoky ember]

more damage, stagger, and cleave

damage increase depends on the weapons finesse values

[raw smelt]

If i get extra finesse from talents/blessings, will i do more cleave and stagger on crit ?

[undone moth]

any gunker builds i can just copy

i want to test it

[smoky ember]

finesse increases weakspot and crit damage

[smoky ember]

ask in #psyker-class , but they’re pretty simple builds

[turbid dock]

Cleave is not affected by finesse

[lime idol]

Crit doesn’t have more cleave

[full stone]

Hey guys I just did the secret bell and killed the twins to unlock the penance and the bells at the beginning. I load in solo and I see the bells and hit but it doesn't teleport me

is there something more I need to do?

[vocal nacelle]

Did you hit the correct bell?

And on the correct difficulty

[full stone]

i loaded in solo 2 separate runs and hit a different bell each time and nothing. I did it on damnation

do I have to do it on another difficulty?

[vocal nacelle]

damnation is correct one

left one is normal teleport

right one is secret hard mode

[full stone]

yeah I hit both and nothing. I just had a rando join and they hit a bell and we tped. I tried in another run solo again and it did nothing lol

[vocal nacelle]

maybe someone is joining in so you cant tp immediately

[full stone]

hmmmm maybe lol I'm lost. so it should work in solo lobbies though?

It's just being weird for me then?

huh no embed on image mb

https://imgur.com/brpvtur

[lost smelt]

Is 80% in all stats and one stat at 60% the max a weapon can roll?

[vocal nacelle]

yes

[lost smelt]

I got this lasgun with 80% and 61%

[vocal nacelle]

a bug

will be fixed sometime later

[pulsar acorn]

Is anyone having issues with dsr resolution after the patch?

my game is brooken with 2k resolution

[opaque shuttle]

What’s left click?

[pulsar acorn]

what?

[vocal nacelle]

left mouse button?

[honest salmon]

Yeah, I guess they broke it by changing how fullscreen mode works in the game. The only solution I know of is to change your desktop resolution as well to make DLSS work

[pulsar acorn]

yep, idk why but this make me loss performance sadly

[patent cedar]

Anyone else experiencing a large drop in framerate?

[pulsar acorn]

probably due to update restore graphic settings

this update feels like a spit in the face to me

[patent cedar]

Can't find what I had changed in the past but now during hordes I go down to like 10 fps while in 150 hours haven't had that happen

[honest salmon]

You can check in MSI Afterburner, maybe your VRAM is full, or maybe some of your settings reverted to default with the update. I also noticed random stutters - it seems some effects are recaching again

[pulsar acorn]

I put all like it was before, i remember cause i change it recently and it was working better for me idk why they have to touch things like that, i can use dsr resolution in tons of game but they needs to be special

now works worse i'm tyred of those patches made by people who seems to not try it before releasing it

[honest salmon]

Same, the only game I have to fiddle with desktop resolution to make DLDSR work is New World. Well, and now this one too 😦

[lost sierra]

Trying to join a friend on xbox from my pc and getting different version errors. But neither of us have an additional update.

[burnt gulch]

hey guys

my full screen looks like this with the new hotfix, any idea how to fix?😅

NVM i think i fixed it, switched the resolution

[fervent moss]

Major loss in frames here too. what the heck

Unlocked and loaded released and I had the best performance ever. Like 120 almost all the time, it was great

now I can't even walk around the ship with more than 60

stuttering mess

[vocal nacelle]

Frame drops always happen after patch note

just wait for a while

[lament sierra]

patch might have turned on raytracing

[fervent moss]

Ray tracing wasn't turned on thankfully. I got the settings to how I used to have them and it mostly works fine, but the Mourningstar is still dropping frames for some reason

[lime idol]

Anyone else experiencing higher GPU heat than normal after the most recent patch?

[sleek ivy]

Anyone else having issues joining friends on PC?

PC to PC

[fervent moss]

I don't monitor mine as much as I probably should, but I know it's working harder than it was before the patch. Fans staying on longer and louder when they shouldn't be

[lime idol]

You can check what ur GPU temperature is like in Nvidia overlay (if u have Nvidia GPU)

[olive vale]

I just got the game which class should I pick

[zealous dome]

Vet
Get used to melee and ranged

And dodging

[olive vale]

Does Zealot get good ranged??

Ive seen some good drip from em

[zealous dome]

They share some weapons with vet and psykers
But zealots can afford being melee

[olive vale]

ok Zealot it is

thank you

[zealous dome]

[woeful root]

I recommend splitting your dodge and jump keybinds into separate keys, if you haven't yet, to avoid jumping during your dodge cooldown

[olive vale]

So like I got 2.5k Aquila is it JUST cosmetics or anything else

[lime idol]

Aquilas are only for paid cosmetics in commodore’s vestures (MTX shop)

[olive vale]

ok

[smoky ember]

we should get this pinned in this chat

[signal flare]

Has anyone been having any issues with invites? Cant seem to send or recive invites via FS code since this morning

[dense gale]

Anyone getting really bad desync recently

[main citrus]

Zealot gets decent ranged. Braced auto is a very good option; lots of ammo for spamming. Just make sure to bring something to deal with crushers with. "Anointed in blood" gives +25% damage to ranged that scales when you are closer to a target; you can build a zealot based on close ranged ranged weapons. Just build the build around a gun with a tonne of ammo: lasgun or brauto are decent choices.

The other option for zealot is bringing ranged as anti-elite/special. Bring revolver, bolt pistol, or bolt gun. Crit lasgun or autogun can also potentially work.

[olive vale]

Thsank you

Which weapon would you recommend for mid levels

Until one reaches lvl 17

[main citrus]

IMO, Joke is -- vet with weapons specialist will probably be a better zealot.

Herm

Use something that can puncture carapace armour.

Revolver or bolt pistol.

[olive vale]

Ok

Thank you for all the help

[main citrus]

A lot of lower lever teams will get wiped by crushers. Revolver and bolt pistol are also really good for specials.

If you want to play around with the autoguns and lasguns -- bring a chainaxe for carapace armour for a bit.

Aim to have one weapon, either ranged or melee, that can deal with crushers. Once you are comfortable with dealing with crushers -- well -- start mixing in some less optimal stuff.

You'll find the less optimal stuff is more optimal for -- say -- ragers or bosses.

But -- crushers are probably the first thing you'll really need to make sure die really quick.

Favourite build for me is ranged zealot with a braced auto and antax axe. Spec'd for bonuses of dodging. Fun build that switches constantly from ranged to melee.

[olive vale]

Thanks for the help

[pastel mural]

Do the multi hit attacks of chain weapons stack up headtaker very fast, or do they maybe only count as a single hit for building headtaker stacks?

[smoky ember]

only one

[pastel mural]

thanks

[smoky ember]

at least i think it’s only one

i’m actually not certain

you could test it in the psykanium

[pastel mural]

oh yea i forgot you can see buff icons in this game

it's just one stack per swing

[smoky ember]

ok pawesome

[glacial raptor]

Hey all, it's been a while since I last played the game (before carnival update), couple questions:

• What does the bolt pistol offer me that the other sidearms (laspistol, revolver) don't also offer, or even why would I pick it over the boltgun? In the case of the sidearms, is it just a bigger, beefier gun? In comparison to the boltgun, is it just faster in various ways?

• last I heard the lastpistol's shove bash thing had a thing on psyker where they generated peril. Is that still a thing and did anyone figure out if it is tangibly different than on other classes? (more power, more range, etc)

• is the flamer psyker staff still considered soulblaze for talents and such?

• the heavy sword special attack never seemed to jive with me before, so I never paid much attention to it. I could never figure out it's use. Is it an opener? An interrupt? am I just dumb and it's just for the fancy animation?

[smoky ember]

bolt pistol is higher ammo, magazine reload, slightly slower draw, has consistent damage to all armor, and AOE stagger on shots, (also access to puncture, bleed on direct hit)

yes, psyker’s las pistol still generates peril on shove, and unfortunately it’s still a unique thing to las pistol

it’s still soulblaze yes

hsword special is useful mainly on carapace with the mk9, as you can h1 special loop

[smoky ember]

there are guides pinned in all class chats except zealot chat, but there is a zealot chat guide currently in development

there is also kuli’s guides

which breakdown talents and blessings on all classes and weapons

[smoky ember]

https://steamcommunity.com/id/kulii/myworkshopfiles/?section=guides&appid=1361210

their guides r all here

[slow bough]

ah

[glacial raptor]

if I used the laspistol on a different character, does the shove do anything different? is the peril generation just because psyker or does it benefit psyker in some way that's unique for reasons unknown

[smoky ember]

on psyker, the shove is a longer ranged, higher stagger shove that generates peril

zealot and vet do not have any uniqueness to it

[glacial raptor]

got ya, thanky

[smoky ember]

yeah of course

[glacial raptor]

Oh, one thing I forgot to ask. Laspistol is still full movespeed when ADS? I vaguely recall revolver not having that so I can't imagine bolt pistol would either, but it also felt pretty jank to have

[smoky ember]

that i do not know

i know las pistols are immune to suppression

but idk about move speed

[glacial raptor]

oh i didn't realize they were suppression immune. that's fantastic to learn. thanks again!

[smoky ember]

yarp

[regal quail]

my game crash on start is there anyway that i could fix it

[smoky ember]

update mods, verify files, reinstall

[regal quail]

after verify my files do i have to uninstall it myself because it uninstalled itself after i did it and it installed pretty much instantly

[smoky ember]

oh that wasn’t all in order

just a few possible solutions

if you’re crashing on launch, see if you can change settings in the launcher that appears

[regal quail]

this would be my third time reinstalling

it doesn't crash on start up it crash after i select my character

[vocal nacelle]

Are you using mods?

[regal quail]

no

[vocal nacelle]

The try to slide down the worker thread on launcher

Launcher -> setting

[regal quail]

could the issue be i lanching it through the xbox app

[regal quail]

cause if thats the case i dont what to restart by buying it on steam

[smoky ember]

when you launch

does it pop up

a menu

where you then click

play game

[regal quail]

yes

[smoky ember]

in that menu

is where you would change worker threads

[vocal nacelle]

If the setting doesn't show up then you need to manually change config file

[regal quail]

What would I change the worker threads to

[vocal nacelle]

Slide it to middle or to the left

slide it down until you aren't crashing

[regal quail]

shit didnt work

[vocal nacelle]

That's new

You have played before right ?

[regal quail]

i was able to for 20hr before i strated having issue

[regal quail]

yup

[vocal nacelle]

And you have decent rig? PC? Or Xbox?

Might want to explain the problem on the forum #🎒support-issues

[regal quail]

I play on pc I thought i had a decent rig until now lol

[little coyote]

less worker threads isn't necessarily better for performance

[vocal nacelle]

It help sometimes if you are crashing

[vocal nacelle]

On all character? Maybe try make another one

[regal quail]

Didn't work

[vocal nacelle]

Make a support ticket #🎒support-issues

[regal quail]

already did

[regal quail]

does this crash code mean anything to you GUID: e1c889ef-6419-4002-9530-a981844e3eba
Log File:
Info Type:

[Engine Error]: HRESULT: 0x887a0005 = DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED: GetDeviceRemovedReason() = DXGI_ERROR_ACCESS_DENIED

At D:\a\d\rel_engine_darktide\release\rel_2024_08_20_Patch1.5.0x\runtime\d3d12_render_device\d3d12_debug.cpp:1554 in function stingray::aftermath::d3d_assert

---

[vocal nacelle]

Engine error search says update your driver

[turbid dock]

View the console logs, it usually gives a better idea on what went wrong

https://support.fatshark.se/hc/en-us/articles/360017633918--PC-How-to-Provide-a-Crash-Report-Console-Log-Launcher-Log-or-user-settings-config

Oh wait thats vermintide but should be in the same folder

[regal quail]

it is

[regal quail]

i found the console logs but session where the crash happed isnt there

nvm i found them

[regal quail]

thanks for the help i figured it out

[dreamy nymph]

Any good sources on how to clutch more games? Currently running mostly damnation and having a good handful of games where I'm last man standing. lvl 30 on all classes with 40% of gear max mastery.

[vocal nacelle]

Priority kill, area knowledge, how to loop, spawn point

And how to shave off horde with your weapon

[shy stone]

Play safe, know when to push forward for a rescue and when to dig in and clear the immediate area.
Learn how to make distance to enemies by using terrain (jumping down to another floor, over boxes etc)

[pulsar acorn]

lmao that psyker armor it's a rock

[turbid dock]

Patience is 100% the key, you shouldn't try to push during horde/specialist wave.
On auric you probably only get 1-2min to progress the map before the next horde/special wave, so it's a long grind.
Rushing to rescue is generally not recommended because of all the ambient elites at the pickup point or in the room

https://youtu.be/uBj0akUwCD8

@1:30 during the horde spawn notice how he backs to the previous room, this is to funnel the enemies to only come at you from one direction, repeat as many times as you feel comfortable or are allowed to. If you try to fight in the same room you will quickly get sandwiched and probably die from hidden overheads or specials.

[burnt tree]

hey whats the quickest way to get crafting materials?

[vocal nacelle]

play damnation diff 5 and grab plasteel there

[burnt tree]

oh

[vocal nacelle]

if you done it right you can get 1100 plasteel per mission if you quick play

or just hit 4 totem in damnation can get you 50 plasteel each

[undone moth]

how do i farm only diamantine

[spice shadow]

sadly damns on quickplay

that's only like 300 or so? but its the best we got

[smoky ember]

play safe, and don’t rush

when you rush, you pull more aggro, and getting overwhelmed will get you killed

play safe, pay attention to where any disablers are, and good map knowledge will help significantly

[pale hearth]

I'm having that issue just right now. Can't invite a friend who I always play with, do you know if there is any issue?

[cerulean sleet]

Hello, I have like.. 52hrs on Warhammer 40000 darktide and I still don't understand what these terms mean for the lfg channels (Vox - lgf - lexicanum, nasa, emea, apac) xD Anyone mind explaining? Sorry I am dumb

[vocal nacelle]

looking for games/ teammates

[cerulean sleet]

Yeah I know, more about the lexicanum nasa, emea, apac

[vocal nacelle]

nasa emea apac is the region

[cerulean sleet]

Oooh

[vocal nacelle]

you can just click the channel and see the desc

[cerulean sleet]

Tyty!

[signal flare]

I’m having the same issue, can’t invite or be invited but can still be matched in public lobbies

Tried uninstalling my mods, verifying my files, but nothing seems to work

[pale hearth]

For me It was updating the WhoAmI mod, the update is already on ModNexus

And the TrueLevel one, but I don't think that one had such an effect

Nevermind, now I restarted and is not working again

Now It's working again

[dreamy nymph]

I was having that issue until I turned mods off

[pale hearth]

I guess you just have to update and then when you join Mourniungstar wait a bit

[signal flare]

Ahh I see

I’ll try that when I get home

[dreamy nymph]

I had to disable mods for the time being to get friend invites to work after update

[burnt tree]

how do i get max rating on weapons?