gameplay-help

[strange kiln]

very rarely t3, vanishingly rarely t4

[coral zealot]

ty

[distant furnace]

Yea have seen T4 before

But only like once or twice

[strange kiln]

rarer post patch, allegedly

i've not seen any since blessings of the omni but i've seen screenshots

[fierce thistle]

Would anyone be willing to be my Ogryn Shield for my Psyker doing Malleus Monstronum? Power Outage T4 is up

[onyx fog]

I don't have a shield ogryn, so I can't help you, but I did it yesterday and you don't need an ogryn. When you BB the boss you will draw its agro to yourself anyway. I did it on a plague ogryn all by myself (teammates helped by not attacking it at all), I'm not sure I could've done it on the beast of nurgle though since that one is a lot more annoying

[elder cobalt]

do you get higher level blessings on the upgrade orange compared to the upgrade from green to blue?

[strange kiln]

nobody knows for sure. it's very probable it has a better chance to roll higher level items, but it would need to be 3x better to be justified here since you can bring 3 different whites to blue for the cost of a blue to gold
4x, if you get a green from the store (most cost effective route)
that's how i got power cycler, eventually

[elder cobalt]

okay, its just my shit luck then

[tepid skiff]

personal experience is that yes, purp to orange grants by far better blessings, but still nowhere near guaranteed to be good.

is it actually 4x better? welp, hard to say.

[undone sphinx]

is there website or way to know the range of rating or like how much it can be when concentrated

[pulsar nest]

If you refine a green/blue item, can the second perk be refined in the future or is it locked proactively?

[fervent ridge]

Locked proactively

Same with blessings

If you rebless at Blue

the gold blessing that comes out will be locked the second you consecrate

[strange kiln]

sometimes that's worth doing though, like if it's a small pool, you don't really care which one you get but you specifically want to dodge a bad blessing

eg, limbsplitter in the taxe pool

then if your first roll is something shitty you don't want, T1 decimator or whatever, you can stick limbsplitter on before consecrating and prevent your roll from hitting it

[tepid skiff]

that really doesn't sound convincing.

i mean, it looks like it would technically work, but not worth it in any shape or form.

[undone sphinx]

when u surrender blessings for weapons do they transfer between operatives

[formal granite]

yea

[undone sphinx]

[iron eagle]

does the counter attack count as a heavy or light attack?

[woeful root]

the parry of the devil claws? It has the same properties as the 3rd light

[iron eagle]

Naw talking about the knife for ogryn and heavy chain sword, just wondering thanks for answering it :)

[cold moon]

How does +2-5% Health as one of the perks of a curio take into account a character's total health pool?

[fervent ridge]

If you're a Zealot with 200 base HP a curio with 5% max health will give you 10 for a total of 210 health

Health stacking works off your base health not your current health

[cold moon]

If the Blessings of three curios I am using have +20% Max Health each then the health perk do not include those values?

[vernal plaza]

Total the amount of max health you have x base
So 20% health + 5% health perk = 25% x 200 = 50

[cold moon]

Ok, so the +2-5% Health does include the Max Health percentages and not Fatshark doing some math trickery

like making the Max Health value not being counted in the calculation

[strange kiln]

taxe pool has 1 chase (brutal momentum), 3 excellent buffs (headtaker, decimator, shred), one mid at best buff (all or nothing) and one you want to actively avoid, limbspliter

like i ignored this once tonight and got owned by it

because if you draw for example T1 shred on your first blessing, the odds of getting a blessing you want are 3/2 - BM, HT, DE / AoN, LS

instead, you rebless that shred into limbsplitter before you consecrate

now your odds are 4/1 - BM, HT, DE, SH/ AoN

so for whatever the cost of putting a T3 blessing on, trivial, you can significant,h

improve your odds on the consecrate roll.

[hybrid loom]

do earned blessings carry over to other characters

[strange kiln]

yes

[hybrid loom]

why does devastating strike (chainsword) have ranks

[strange kiln]

as i recall it didn't used to, but they changed the functionality and broke the scaling

[cold moon]

Does revive speed stack if I have two equipped curios with that perk?

Got a +8% and +10%

[errant jolt]

Hi friends, genuine question for everyone since I've seeing a lot of conflicting information online.

A lot of people advocate for Crit Chance % as a main perk for the majority of weapons in the game. Outside of blessings like Charmed Reload etc, why is this more optimal than Damage vs. X% in the majority of situations? I have heard that Crit Chance % affects your Armor Penetration modifier. Is this true?

Lastly, are there any tangible resources that y'all use for "optimal" perks/blessings on weapons? Like a spreadsheet/website etc? I would really appreciate it. TYVM!

[glass lagoon]

are mystery acquisitions actually worth it? never got anything good there

[formal granite]

no

do not use that shit

[fervent ridge]

Or do, if you're a gambling man

[tepid skiff]

it does. not the most useful of perks, but it works.

[obsidian kernel]

do some curio not get any tier 4 perk?

i'm about 2000 rolls into this one and havent seen a single tier 4 perk

on the Saintly Fargment (Caged)

[latent girder]

so it isn't more optimal for most weapons then just x% damage, however crits do have some armor penetrating propterties but imo do not rely on that, I have had to in the past on my vet when I didn't bring a carapace cracking melee and it is a waste of ammo to mag dump a crusher with a non armor piercing gun.

[rocky birch]

Still need help with On Overwatch. I have a plan, me and one other stay back (One). Two go ahead (Two) . When Two gets to a checkpoint, they'll say in chat, One reaches checkpoint and other teammate on One rotates if need be.

Repeat until mission complete and Penance earned

Or unless there's a glitch I can do which would expedite the process. In which. Tell me

Anyone?

[coral violet]

just do it with pugs? its not a hard penance

[paper haven]

I've heard this works but I don't really care to try it myself: jump off the map at the beginning, team runs through the mission, then picks you up at the end. the train yard is a good place for it.

[strange kiln]

there is a correlation between item level, which is the blessing level on curios (so 80 is the max) and the perks you can reroll

at 80 it mostly rolls 3s with occasional 4s and rare 2s

but that's not true at all at 60

[warm nebula]

Is there some sort of setting where the game will remember the sorting order? Every time it changes back to "Rating" and I want it to stay "Type"

[rocky birch]

Do you think you and others could help me with that later?

[paper haven]

nope. like i said i have no interest in trying it.

[floral flame]

What level do you have to be for heresy

[paper haven]

there are no level reqs. 20+ is a good area.

but if you know VT2 combat then you can probably start earlier.

[fervent ridge]

15+ with damnation experience on another char

You need your 3rd feat

lvl 25 for a comfortable ride

Although the stats and buffs won't save you as much as good game sense and comfortable doing heavy melee because this game is very melee centric, if you are comfy in close quarters you'll do fine

Heresy is pretty easy, just stick to the fundamentals and you'll do ok

[stuck ridge]

Alright so, I've been playing a few games now and I'm noticing a lot of the Daemonhosts on the Blackout maps are no longer in "unavoidable" spots. Like, they seem like they should be avoidable, but one spot on the Metalfab Strike Mission (restart the Smelter) in particular seems like even if you manage to angle your drop so you never land in the glowing green spot, your landing is still loud enough to wake the Daemonhost

This spot is fairly early in the mission and trying to go around it leads you up a ramp where you have to drop off onto the same path the DH is

Another one spawned just close enough to the Medicae station on the Torrents Espionage mission (upload false data) that using the Medicae would provoke it.

The one in the circular markets area. You can avoid that one, but its placement means that if your team is low on health you're basically screwed either way. You either don't get Medicae and get wiped, or you proc the Daemonhost while the team is only partially healed and... get wiped

This despite the fact that the Medicae station looks like it should be clearly out of the radius to wake the Daemonhost

It seems like an adjustment to DH awareness would avoid this issue, ie ensuring it syncs better with the green glow around it which appears to indicate its autodetect radius, so you don't get unintended awakenings when the environment is indicating to a player that they shouldn't be detected

[barren nymph]

This gun is so powerful on damnation especially with the two reload feats that I genuinely don’t know what I should reroll my one perk to. Max reload speed? Max flak/carapace dmg?

[tepid skiff]

flak, carapace, maybe unyielding, even a t4 reload perk are all good options.

with a base this good it'll be spectacular anyway.

[modest elm]

does anyone know how and why running the exact same mods on two different computers causes oen to run fine, but the other to continue crashing until i unpatch them?

and dont provide obvious answers like 'oh are the mods up to date' or 'did you type them in right to the mod loader folder'

[carmine wing]

anyone have a resource/guide on how to install the mods

[azure blade]

Y'all know where to find info on item rating verssu base item rating and how they affects stats? Still trying to figure it out

[modest elm]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/11cod2i/guide_how_to_install_mods_in_darktide_w_gifs/

also look at the comments they talk about a vortex plugin, which i think is much more helpful

[lunar copper]

Does earning a blessing for one mark of weapon earn it for the other marks?

[latent girder]

yeah

[fierce lantern]

Been gone awhile and see new update. Where can I find details on all shotguns so I can compare them?

[tepid skiff]

a good question. i'm not aware of any site with comprehensive info.

[finite plaza]

@rocky birch I’m stuck on that one too I could try to help?

[rocky birch]

Maybe another day. Cause I need to sleep

[thorny slate]

If I understand correctly and cleave is for taking on hordes, then wouldn't the sword on the right have the much better perk than the one on the left? It seems the left's perk is inferior to the right, no?

[hard goblet]

The one on the right requires you to hit 3 enemies first before it gains increased cleave.

[carmine wing]

savage sweep is generally the best perk for cleave against horde the only condition is that you're hitting 3 enemies at a time. Wrath is less impactful but much easier to proc since it activates on hit

[thorny slate]

Thanks, I went with the one on the right

[gilded vale]

I'm messing around with armor vulnerabilities on enemies and was wondering where the weak points are on the Crusher.

[thorny slate]

I don't know the answer but you can go into the training mode and test out hits on the Crusher. The game will tell you whether you're hitting armor or not and what kind of armor it is

[gilded vale]

I've actually been doing that right now, I must be really blind/stupid or this thing is an actual shell.

The only thing I can really get off on it is an occasional headshot crit otherwise it's 4-6 DMG all around.

I consistently do more DMG using melee against it but I am 99% that's not a good idea for a veteran.

[vernal plaza]

Carapace says hi

Crusher is 100% carapace that laugh at most of your ranged option

[gilded vale]

F

[tepid skiff]

in addition to what's already been said, heavy sword has high cleave, and doesn't need help from blessings in that regard. it does have a uniquely strong headtaker blessing however, that boosts power, which is damage, cleave and stagger combined. so your highest priority should be getting a highest tier headtaker you can get. it'll really transform your experience with this weapon.

[tight tundra]

howdy fellow slabs, need advice:

1. is this decent?
2. what blessings would you recommend on ironhelm bonk stick [yes i know it's not great but still i'd like to try it with 'optimal' rolls] ;p

[wind panther]

do higher diffculties give more datamine and platesteel?

[tight tundra]

damnation gives about 2x as heresy

that is if u and your team take time to pick up the mats 😛

i average 700-770 plasteel per damnation (without modifiers)

[formal granite]

modifiers dont change mats anyway

[unreal aurora]

Could anyone explain to me what Dialogue Trim Volume in the Audio Settings mean?

[fervent ridge]

Da, yes

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046913589614747719/1089381271618199633/image.png

This is the max possible amount of plasteel and diamante you can earn from completing Damnation

This match also had 3 extra modifiers but for now those don't add more mats, just ordos and (lol) exp

[obsidian kernel]

Thanks 🙂 will keep that in mind!

[warm nebula]

Near-perfect statline, not good perks or blessings. I would keep Full Bore but be somewhat sad about it… and test in the Meat Grinder to see if it does decent damage against Flak & Cara. Maybe lean into Full Bore by swapping the Groaners perk for Cara or Monstrosities (if that’s a perk that exists?)

[fluid flare]

Carapace armor is highly resilient to things like bladed weapons and lasguns. If you inspect a weapon and view the attack breakdowns you can see how your weapons and their attacks fare against different armor types (or just hit stuff in the Psykhanium like you were doing). Plasma guns and bolters penetrate carapace, for example

[fluid flare]

Monstrosities are Unyielding

[coral violet]

does shock troop gauntlet spawn more elites too or is it only specials

[warm nebula]

I mean, I could be totally off base with the lean-in strat too…

I’m just not happy with No Respite + low Stopping Power, but I could be wrong

[warm nebula]

Per the Tools of War forum announcement, sounds like specials only: “Shock Troop Gauntlet- Specialist spawns are doubled and spawn in waves.”

But does “Specialist” == “special”??? Fatshark has been known to not word things precisely…

Plus there’s Hi-Intensity Shock Troop:
“Shock Troop Gauntlet with High Intensity- Specialist spawns are doubled and spawn in waves, coupled with a higher intensity of enemies.”

[fluid flare]

Specialists are very firmly defined in this game

They're unique units that have a distinct audio or visual cue when spawning

[woeful root]

and it's usually the word "Elites" that gets used loosely

[fluid flare]

Elites are souped up versions of existing units or Ogryns, that can be found in ambient patrols around the mission area and as part of mixed hordes

They don't have unique abilities or distinct cues when spawning in

You can find Specialists grouped together in the Meatgrinder

Poxhounds, trappers, bombers, flamers, snipers and Mutants are specialists

Poxbursters might also be but Meatgrinder doesn't have those so not sure

[tight tundra]

what blessing would u toss to compliment full bore?

have anyone had any 'fun' with particular blessings on the new thunderhammer?

[warm nebula]

😅 I don’t know all the possible shotgun blessings…

[tight tundra]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/weapons/combat-shotgun/kantrael-mk-ix-combat-shotgun

[warm nebula]

I like Deathspitter, although I note that the special ammo info is just copied from the Lawbringer

To me, it doesn’t seem like there’s a lot of synergy in those Blessings. But I could be missing something

Maybe I’m re-evaluating No Respite 😅 if shotguns in general have high stagger inherently, a dumpstat Stopping Power statline isn’t actually that bad

I am simple man. I want more damage more of the time (I.e. with less conditional chances needed to trigger it)

Is smooth-brain choice

[tight tundra]

XD same. but truth be told there's a lot of blessings that either have no synergy on particular weapon or have no use being there i.e. surge and quell peril on trauma staff - those two work only on lmb. WHY would anyone put that in there ?

not to mention a couple that simply don't work/don't work as described xD

i think ill go with deathspitter cuz it was buffed to stack 5 times now

could work ;D

thanks

now i need to figure out how to make ironhelm hammer at least somewhat useful xD

honest to god it's worse than the original one xD

why is there a strikedown on heavy swing combo? xD

[warm nebula]

MFW when gameslantern doesn’t break down the attack chains…

Which attack in the heavy chain is the Strikedown? You could try block-canceling it

Also, what’s the push-follow-up strike?

[tight tundra]

u can kinda do the heavy evi rotation

but it's a worse heavy evi

[warm nebula]

(I love the OG TH for just, heavy chain smooth brain)

[tight tundra]

and the 2 years of stunlock after special power up is ridiculous - esp considering that the powered up hit ain't that strong

all we want is a bonk stick with an aoe explosion on power up

xD

[warm nebula]

Oh yeah, “gotta make it feel like you just walloped that guy into space… I know”

[tight tundra]

like something akin to what trauma does

[warm nebula]

Meanwhile me, locked out of inputs for way too long in the middle of a swarm…

[tight tundra]

exactly 😄

half of the times i use the powered up swingums

i end getting slapped

xD

[warm nebula]

When the reward for high player melee skillz is avoiding damage… and the weapon locks you into taking damage…

[tight tundra]

you can do all that this bonk does with heavy eviscerator - except better as u actually will do heckin lot of cleaving AND u can deal with crushers etc.

[warm nebula]

That being said, perhaps we should consider the TH recoil as a moment to reposition or dodge 🤔

[tight tundra]

if u could

that would be fine

but u get stunlocked cant dodge

cant block

cant scratch that itchy nose

[warm nebula]

This is where I would keep my high-quality evis…

[tight tundra]

it's rough out there

[warm nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/if-i-had-one-angry-yelling-fairly-odd-parents-mr-turner-gif-16322274

[tight tundra]

;D

i have a pretty decent one - not a godroll or anything but it's got them right blessings and is around 350

it gets the job done xD

[warm nebula]

I gotta gamble in Brunt’s Casino Armory for one sometime soon

I just want a tiny zealot swinging a sword that’s as tall as she is

Plz obese sea predator

[tight tundra]

space irs should look into brunt's books

this man robbed me of about half a mil now

😄

[warm nebula]

[tight tundra]

i was mining for thrust on bonkstick

took 20+ greys upgraded

T.T

[warm nebula]

“Darktide. Doesn’t. Respect. Your. Time.” -verac spittin facts

[tight tundra]

😄

yeah but then again not a single 'grind' based looter game is

xD

[warm nebula]

You’re not entirely wrong. Plus they did tweak Melk’s contracts to pay more and not be quite so bad

Just. That’s a good start, keep going

https://tenor.com/view/tinytim-tim-poor-child-boy-gif-7331148

[tight tundra]

now just lemme 'reroll' his inventory by paying diamantine (i have a hoard of it as there's little to no use for this resource) xD

and i'd be content at least for a while xD

my vet is sitting on 7k

and there's only garbage on daily basis in his shop xD

[elder cobalt]

which difficulty is the easiest to farm plasteel?

[latent girder]

damnation

[keen veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/makingamurderer-reasonable-yes-gif-4984924

[lost sierra]

I saw some people had a scoreboard mod, is that stuff ok with fatshark? if so where is safe downloads?

[woeful root]

it's a-okay by fatshark's book
here's their statement on mods if you care to read, https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/darktide-modding-policy/75407

safe downloads are on nexusmods, https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide

[lost sierra]

@woeful root Thanks very much!

[fervent ridge]

Welcome to the world of Mods

it's effing awesome

[lost sierra]

how bad do they break on updates usually lol

[latent girder]

not very

[lost sierra]

thats good, its too bad they didnt do steam workshop like with verm

[fervent ridge]

Rarely, just rerun the .bat file once and it's usually good to go

[woeful root]

some mods can get broken and have gotten broken such as with the last patch, but it usually only requires a quick fix of sorts such as stated by turbo

[fervent ridge]

It's still me yvanna arco

[woeful root]

oh lmao

[fervent ridge]

I just changed my name bcs some guy called me a meta worshipping turbo nerd for using flamer antax to clear hi intensity 5 with shock gauntlet + power interruption

[woeful root]

what the

[fervent ridge]

I didn't want to argue with him so it's my new name instead

Idiots, the point is to win the game, smh

[woeful root]

smh dont you want to lose

[fervent ridge]

NO ARCO I WANT THAT 700+ plasteel

[woeful root]

hehe

[formal granite]

805/300

[fervent ridge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1054153720532828180.webp?size=160&quality=lossless

[plain berry]

Is this Malice or Heresy or Damnation?

[woeful root]

Damnation

Heresy only has that middle skull, Malice has three layers of wings but no skulls

[plain berry]

I'm missing 1 malice mission but I can't tell which it is lol

it might not be on this roll

[formal rampart]

Is there any way I can swap items between characters?

[late plank]

Anyone wanna help me do Deadeye penance

[rigid wasp]

need help monster 90% dmg penance

[tepid skiff]

no. there are only two things transferable between characters: blessing unlocks and applicable weapon skins.

[rigid wasp]

and outfits and frames and insignias

[strange kiln]

penance progress too i suppose, for better and worse

[tepid skiff]

outfits?

[old bronze]

Hotfix caused my game to be unlaunchable

[half fossil]

if you have mods, disable them and try again. i had the same issue and it was fixed once i disabled them

[rigid wasp]

clothing

[old bronze]

I removed them entirely game still won’t launch

[muted vortex]

is there a way to strengthen weapons or am i stuck with the stats they come with.

[fervent ridge]

What is your ingame level

[woeful root]

have you updated the Darktide Mod Loader?

[muted vortex]

11 now

[fervent ridge]

then don't worry you'll naturally gain higher base rated weapons as you level up which can further be empowered by perks and blessings you get at Hadron's

Save all of your crafting materials till you hit lvl 30

That's when the optimization begins

[muted vortex]

ah ok

[formal rampart]

Thank you for the answer.. It's really sad.. I've got a really cool shotgun on my Zealot, but I would rather use it on the Sharpshooter

[old bronze]

Yes because the patch broke them initially that actually fixed it until the hot fix on Friday and haven't been able to launch since

[pseudo badge]

Any good place for a noob to find guides? Like builds, weapon combos, and such?

[fervent ridge]

Feel free to ask in #zealot-class that's the most gameplay-relevant channel besides #ogryn-class

avoid #veteran-class

[tepid skiff]

if you consider femboy gif posting gameplay-relevant, maybe.

[fervent ridge]

This is the warhammer 40k fandom

femboy gif posting and nazi adjacent imagery comes with your membership card

[rigid wasp]

#psyker-class enjoyers sitting there like

(they are like that because of peril edging, give them 5 minutes to fight mental apocalypse and they will go back to talking normally)

[fervent ridge]

edging

Hehe

[rigid wasp]

[warm nebula]

Is there a way to sort the Curios by the type of blessing they have?

[fervent ridge]

No

[warm nebula]

😔

[minor bison]

yeah what are those symbols ? like some missions have them others not

also some missions have an aquilla and some hacking runes on the right side of the mission , does it means something

PLEASE TECHPRIESTS EXPLAIN

[tepid skiff]

small green rectangle right bottom with gibberish on it? it doesn't mean shit, apparently.

which is a major wtf semiotically, like what the hell were ui designers thinking.

but it is what it is.

[fluid flare]

That's just "one of the mission icon background .png's"

Fatshark is hilarious, truly.

[minor bison]

overconvulated UI we love to see this

[jagged shuttle]

Does anyone else here use the steam deck to play darktide? I got a question for ya

[coral zealot]

for the contract complete mission with no deaths, what counts as a death? when someone goes downed and no one picks them up, or does going downed count as a death too?

[restive tulip]

getting downed doesn't count, they need to have been utterly killed

[coral zealot]

ty!

[warm nebula]

Anyone else getting inconsistent hit/kill pips with the Columnus IAG? Or is it just me not being able to line up those tall posts?

[tepid skiff]

no, hitmarkers with blue iag are indeed unreliable.

it hits and kills fine, shame about atrocious recoil.

bugged hitmarkers don't help either.

[rigid wasp]

plenty a time i got the headshot sound and a white hitmarker

sometimes even clicked straight on the head and saw a white hitmarker mocking me

[warm nebula]

😔
Here’s hoping they’ll look into it at some point. I’d make a comment about the relative state of IAGs, but that’s beyond the scope of help-chat

[tepid skiff]

it's another issue, for me most prevalent on k12. like fantom hits, where you can hear a headshot crunch but hitmarker doesn't come, or comes white. especially prevalent on moving targets. i suspect that aimpoint sway isn't quite in sync between a client and a server.

while blue iag just barks and shoots and kinda hits? probably? but hitmarkers either don't show up at all, or show up really brief, with awkward timing, not corresponding to hits at all. but dudes still die.

brown iag, graia, also does that sometimes.

[sharp spire]

This is so frustrating and I'm sure it's getting worse. Felt like it was happening to the majority of my shots last night

[tepid skiff]

does your k12 have high stability roll?

it might not seem like much, but when i upgraded from 60 to 80% the difference was quite pronounced. things got much better.

[warm nebula]

It could be just the packets being consumed by Nidhoggr the Net Serpent. Perhaps hit marker packets are like as unto a succulent treat for them

[rancid prawn]

I'm having some issues with my keybinds. When I boot the game, my push-to-talk and tac screen binds are unbound from any key I've set them too. I change them back and it lasts until I stop playing. Next play sesh, unbound again.

I've unchecked the reset on launch but it still does it. And only for those to actions. And ideas?

[warm nebula]

I agree that’s weird and shouldn’t happen, and I don’t know why either. Some sort of Steam Sync issue? Or maybe GeForce Experience messing with keybind settings???

Anything else between your fingers on the keyboard and Darktide? Keyboard macros, driver software?

[rancid prawn]

I've reinstalled the game a couple times so I don't know how it could be a Steam thing. Can Geforce mess with keybinds? I thought it was just for my Vid Card. As for the keyboard I just got a cheap Amazon "gaming" board. Couldn't tell you the name tbh. And the only macros I use are on my mouse.

edit: the mouse is a Logitech G502 if that helps?

[lapis spindle]

What does power cycler do exactly?

[strange kiln]

continuous attacks drain your charge slower

[lapis spindle]

Is it infinite or just slows the charge decrease?

[strange kiln]

definitely not infinite

[lapis spindle]

Alright

[strange kiln]

i think it's like, seven heavies

[lapis spindle]

Thanks

[latent girder]

it's like 2 attack to 6-7

[lapis spindle]

Nice

I have yet to get it or even see it

[tepid skiff]

without cycler it's 4 attacks vs trash mobs, and 2 vs heavy elites on one special activation.

wonder which one becomes 7.

[austere kraken]

do blessing have to match the mark of the weapon

to be used to re-bless

like can I take a blessing off a mk7 shotty and put it on a mk9

[latent girder]

just the same type

so any combat shotgun to any combat shotgun

[austere kraken]

cool thanks

[desert spade]

Any other Ogryns wanna try to get Heavyweight Champion penance?

[vagrant fractal]

I'm down!

[jagged shuttle]

Just lost a damn hi gauntlet because a mutant carried me through a spawn door as it opened

[jaunty elk]

which map is the one with less crafting resources?

[tepid skiff]

if they haven't fixed it yet, then it's disruption of a radio transmission.

[formal granite]

relay station trs-150

[jaunty elk]

Thanks!

[broken dawn]

Buy it?

I'm thinking yes

[warm nebula]

Not bad. The Damage stat isn’t ideal, but those blessings look decently good

[latent girder]

hand cannon is bait

crit not only have a lot of armor pen built in, but the revolver only benefits from rending like att all on carapace and maniac

and not by that much

[warm nebula]

TIL

[verbal echo]

Whats the max toughness a trinket can roll on toughness (on the primary stat)

[strange kiln]

17

+5 for the perk if you get that, so +22 is the highest you can get

[verbal echo]

ok ty ❤️

is there a spreadsheet of this info around?

[fervent ridge]

No, but feel free to ask

[barren nymph]

What should I re roll for my sharpshooter ? I’m assuming 10% block to 5% toughness ?

[tough solar]

Personally i'd reroll to gunner resistance.

[barren nymph]

reroll block to gunner?

[tepid skiff]

ye, pretty much.

or to sniper resistance. or to money farm. there are many good perks, and they're free to switch between, but yes, block is the least useful here.

[barren nymph]

how about max curio chance? so i can get better curio

[tepid skiff]

emprah gift grants awful, totally unusable curios, so this perk is defacto 20% less loot.

but you can certainly try.

[silk estuary]

Personally reroll block efficiency in 5% toughness

Which is the max health blessing on curio? Blessing, not perk (I know this is 5%)

[restive tulip]

21% is the highest i’ve seen

i haven’t gotten a health curio with a base item rating of 80 yet, so i don’t know if there is 22%

[silk estuary]

I've seen max 21% too.thnx for the answer...

[strange kiln]

21

[haughty wren]

Can someone explain Thunderstrike- blessing for me. "Target receives 3 stack(s) of +5 impact if already staggered. Lasts 5s." So ehh.. Target staggers even more because it gets more impact? Is there different tiers of stagger? When I slap with melee weapon do I create stagger effect on the target AND with this blessing get even more stagger effect on it? Target fall to prone or something?

[undone sphinx]

is the fastest way to get to lvl 30 on new characs just speedrunning T1s with modifiers where possible

[fervent ridge]

Malice, t3, is the optimal farming difficulty

for return on investment in terms of time invested vs crafting mats gained

And exp

[undone sphinx]

on new characters though?

[strange kiln]

i had my buddies level me

[undone sphinx]

gotta do like 50 just to max a character

they rlly gotta streamline this

[fluid flare]

this hasn't been true since the big crafting update, malice gives ~300 plasteel (maybe less?) for 20min while you can get 750 plasteel in 30min in t5

[fervent ridge]

Lvl 1 character will have a rather difficult time doing Damnation, Hank

[fluid flare]

skill issue

[fervent ridge]

Because the difficulty isn't even available to be played yet

[fluid flare]

just click harder bro

also you can join a match in progress through your friend list and enter a damnation match that way, even at lvl 1

but I didn't catch on that you meant mats farming while levelling specifically

[fervent ridge]

[azure zenith]

is there a higher chance of getting a high tier blessing when consecrating a higher rating weapon?

[sand idol]

is shock gauntlet the best way to do heavyweight champion?

cant find 6 at once anywhere

[uneven bough]

I believe shock gauntlet only modifies things related to specials rather than (ogryn) elites

[wanton estuary]

two questions:

1. do dreg groaners or scab groaners count for Sire Melk's "Kill 750 dregs|scabs with ranged" contracts?
2. are earned blessings available only for a specific mark, or do they count for the whole weapon class? (e.g. can i take Charmed Reload from an Achlys Twin-Linked Heavy Stubber and use it to re-bless a Gorgonum Twin-Linked Heavy Stubber?)

[fervent ridge]

Whole weapon class

[woeful root]

and it's generally intuitive to figure out what class a weapon belongs to (lawbringer/achlys/kantrael shotguns belonging to the same class), but the intuition sort of falls apart for Psyker staffs which currently do not share blessings between one another

[fluid flare]

Groaners are neither dregs not scabs

[lime cargo]

Do I need to build up available weapon rating, or is it just RNG after 30?

Level 30

[coral violet]

pure rng

[lime cargo]

Thanks

[wanton estuary]

this hurts me

there's two types of groaners and one is definitely dreg and only hangs out with dreg, and the other is scab and only hangs out with scab

[fluid flare]

groaners come in a lot of varieties. throneside even has groaners in luxury nightgowns

they're just residents of the plague-affected areas who haven't degenerated far enough to be poxwalkers yet

they're neither dreg cultists nor scab traitor guardsmen

[wanton estuary]

maybe i'm misidentifying groaners then?

[woeful root]

you mean Bruisers then

[woeful root]

yup; scab bruiser

[wanton estuary]

damn. been wrong the whole time

[woeful root]

the game doesn't even have an in-game glossary so it's not as though you can really be faulted for it

[wanton estuary]

i remain convinced that that's what this kiosk was for

[ocean cobalt]

Groaners and poxwalkers are the zombies

Bruisers are the the armored/bare chest ones with maces

Armored for scabs, bare chest for dregs

[last nimbus]

Hey boisn girls. aslong as i use scoreboard for myself and dont flame anyone the mod should be fine yeah ?

thats the last thing i heard from cm. any change on that ?

[warm nebula]

I haven’t heard them complain. Just, be nice we got a small enough player base already

[last nimbus]

mostly for perfomance perk and feat testing

[last nimbus]

aye dont tell me xD been here from the start xD

[warm nebula]

Go, do science on it

[last nimbus]

[lost sierra]

Just did a scripture mission that gave progress for Melk's picking up grimoires contract. is that a bug or has that always been a thing?

[warm nebula]

It was patched so both books count, when they did the big crafting rework. Probably working as intended

[lost sierra]

Thats awesome!

ty for clearing that up

[warm nebula]

[shell heron]

hey im new only level 6 right now, does anyone know what's the difference between brunt's armory and weapon requisition?

[violet flicker]

weapon requisition is a collection of random weapons at different rarities and brunts allows you to buy a grey-quality of any item you have unlocked. sometimes a type of weapon you want won't be available at all in weapon requisition but you can grab one from brunt's instead

[shell heron]

cool thanks

so sounds like its generally better to get from requisiton, and only use brunt when its not in req?

[violet flicker]

imo yeah, especially if leveling. sometimes when farming blessings for a particular weapon people buy a bunch of that type from brunt and upgrade them

[restive tulip]

when you hit higher levels, the quality of equipment in the Requisition will surpass Brunt’s Armory of grey weapons

[shell heron]

thx guys!

[thorny slate]

I know slide cancelling is a great way to quickly close the gap between you and ranged enemies without getting shot... Is it considered better to use "hold" for crouch, or "toggle"?

[tepid skiff]

should work with both, but it's not a crouch-heavy game, so hold is overall preferrable.

what's worse, this tech works really poorly with sprint toggle. you need to have it on hold to start accelerating right after the slide. otherwise a lot of time and efficiency is lost.

[thorny slate]

Gotcha, thanks for the tip. I noticed with toggle you can seem to cancel the slide partway and maintain more momentum, but it's also harder to get the rhythm. I'm using hold for now and it's much easier

[rigid wasp]

toggle crouch messes up slide timing because you need to uncrouch

it wont let you just queue standing up and instead you need to do it after a specific time into the slide

[lime cargo]

What is finesse on a weapon?

[woeful root]

attack speed and weakspot/crit dmg multiplier
when focused on a weapon in your inventory, press 'V' and hover over the stat to figure out what the stat does

[lime cargo]

Thanks!

[lime cargo]

Is 80% the max for weapon modifiers?

[restive tulip]

yes

[lime cargo]

Thanks

[restive tulip]

for a total of 380 base stats

that’s the total limit

so not all bars can be simultaneously 80

[stark hare]

Need help doing Penances "Make Every Shot Count" can't do with rando that can't read English any more.

[rigid wasp]

Best you can get is 80 x 4 + 60 in the dumpstat of the weapon. Rarely ever rolls it. Most often you get some 70ish value on everything.

[fervent ridge]

I can feel the pain in this comment

[stark hare]

https://tenor.com/view/pain-charlotte-rampling-gaius-helen-mohiam-dune-hurt-gif-18400573

[spark crow]

has anyone here beat the charge 6 ogryn penance?

[latent girder]

they changed the spawns recently and it made it much easier if you play damnation

[woeful reef]

have you tried aiming ?

If so, have you tried aiming.... better ?

[stark hare]

Really..... that you answer......... was tell team mate to NOT KILL BLUKWALK so I can easley doing it.

[woeful reef]

Bruv I've played this game for too long and gotten almost every penance for each character (except 100 mission with the fucking ogryn, screw that) the more you play the better you'll aim and don't miss, I mean I got it by accident while trying the revolver dude

[tough solar]

just play better isnt good advice

[tough solar]

best i can say is, use a gun with low ammo count like a shotgun or plasma and do an assassination mission so you can unload on the boss shield at the end. You can always get a strike team going in one of the vcs in here and get a team to help. It's a lot easier when you've got a team that know you're doing it and you can say when you are "taking shots" so someone doesn't kill something before you do

[sharp spire]

What does chained hit actually mean in reference to the confident strike blessing? Is it hitting the same enemy more than once consecutively?

[distant mica]

anyone else resources look like this?

[tough solar]

yeah pretty much

[rigid wasp]

Yeah, its a plasteel looter-shooter

[lapis trellis]

these don't apply on melee anymore right? are there any ranged blessings that do?

[woeful root]

cross-weapon blessing interactions were patched out, and only intentional ones are now left in such as Expansive on the Ogryn's Kickback or Point Blank on the Revolver
All-or-nothing was bugged to work on all weapons pre-patched, but I assume that they fixed it with the recent patch?

[lapis trellis]

gotcha, so if i mostly use melee best i can do is revolver's critical bonus to melee?

[woeful root]

Point Blank's crit bonus applies to the revolver only, with melee being the trigger condition and not the one that benefits from it

Expansive is the one where melee gets a benefit

[lapis trellis]

but the critical bonus weapon stat applies permanently to melee right?

i do love 40% power but 3.5s is a bit..

[woeful root]

i'm almost certain that's just a typo, though it should be easy to go into the meatgrinder and see if you get an abnormal amount of crits with your melee

[latent girder]

it's a typo I believe

or it's showing the bash's crit chance

[lapis trellis]

fair, i did think it was a bit silly just for equipping a pretty good already secondary, might be worth a clarficiation though..

the bash only does like 6 damage so i kind of skipped over it in my head

[lapis spindle]

guys

how do i get the untouchable penance

i joined a game and didnt take health damage and did not get it

started with full health

[woeful grove]

you have to be at the mission intro, you can't join late.

[trail surge]

anyone want to help with the veteran penance here you dont miss

im pretty close but need a team

[lapis spindle]

I got it

[trail surge]

cam give me 15 minsw or so

[latent girder]

I believe it is also the regular shot's crit chance

[polar compass]

Is this the place I can get help with Ogryn penance Friends will be Friends?

[woeful root]

earning a higher tier blessing will not replace the lower tier version

if you earned a t3 slaughterer in the past and decided to earn a t4 slaughterer later on, you will still be able to rebless weapons with the t3 slaughterer

yup

besides the lost opportunity cost of dockets and whatnot

better to be safe than sorry, especially when the game doesn't explain it to you

[ruby rover]

So apparently people doesn't know this still. Do remaining hordes respawn on the other side of air locks?

[restive tulip]

yeah if you jump into an airlock with a horde coming, they’ll run through a monster closet and come out of a new closet on the other side of the airlock

similarly, if there’s a button door in front, a horde can spawn on the other side, and realize they need to enter a closet and attack you from behind

[ruby rover]

ty

[strange kiln]

you can use this to your advantage sometimes, when a horde does this and runs at you it wakes up all the other mobs in that area

some rooms which have great cover, snipers etc that are on the far side of an airlock will wake up all at once and run at you single file through the monster closet, including gunners and such

but basically "never press a button or advance if unusual music is playing" is the correct play almost always. you will get the horde + the event

[simple kite]

is there a pinned resource that shows enemies by category (carapace/infested/unyielding/etc.)?

[meager tapir]

other way around for me

[lime cargo]

Do I need to look at weeklies before they start being counted? This seems to be the case

[fervent ridge]

You do

[lime cargo]

Thanks

[fervent ridge]

This feels mildly heretical

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[quick remnant]

Not our fault

Those are Xenos lover

[rigid wasp]

is hi shock troop gauntlet disabled?

[fervent ridge]

It is currently part of a rotating set of weekly modifiers FS is testing to gain feedback from community, it has been rotated out already but is still in the pool

The potential new mods are shock gauntlet, power supply interruption, vent purge, sniper patrols and today we are getting dogs

[rigid wasp]

Aww, shame. So at best we will get another shock troop next week..

[uneven bough]

they rotate faster than that, not exactly weekly

[leaden quest]

How do I learn to melee hordes? Are there any recommendations/videos?

I'm trying to go from t3 to t4 and while it mostly works, whenever a really big horde strikes, I inevitably go down.

[latent girder]

learn to push and dodge in the horde

[fervent ridge]

Abuse your backward dodges to create space, horde control is mostly a matter of muscle memory, once you get the feeling of chaining your combos down it will feel very easy

[leaden quest]

Doesn't that stop working once there's enemies on multiple sides? That's how it felt to me, anyway.

[fervent ridge]

Personally, I say my combo out aloud as I execute it so I can do it more attentively:

i.e on Eviscerator- Heavy 1, light 1, pushattack > Heavy 1, light 1, pushattack backwards dodge > Heavy 1 and so on

Then move forward, since your attacks create space in the direction you are attacking

[latent girder]

generally you shouldn't be letting enemies get on multiple sides if you can

[fervent ridge]

or turn around so your backwards dodge is into this new available space

If you have trouble vs hordes you can also find walls to glue yourself to or corners to back yourself against because walls and corner reduce the surface area you have to deal with and enemies will block each other as they approach

[leaden quest]

How do I avoid getting surrounded then? Because it seems like with hordes, a few always get through... I often feel like the only one trying to prevent the team from getting surrounded, actually.

But that's probably poor situational awareness.

[fervent ridge]

Don't hesitate to back up whenever a horde approaches in the opposite direction they are coming from, you will always outrun hordes and it is not necessary to push forward into them, be comfortable with giving up as much ground as needed to stretch and filter the horde

[latent girder]

is the horde just pouring in from multiple angles for you? or is it getting knocked around and ending up surrounding you

[leaden quest]

I can think of both situations happening. For example at the end of cryonic rods, before the final stand, they seem to spawn from multiple directions.

[latent girder]

ooh yeah that event it's very easy to get slapped from multiple directions

[leaden quest]

And like, I'm trying to keep them off the rod carrier, and get surrounded.

[rigid wasp]

its also important to have teammates that arent wholly moronic and actually are capable of providing basic cover to you

[leaden quest]

Well, that I can't really fix, but I can improve my skills, I'm sure.

[rigid wasp]

though you can do some hard carrying with good horde management

in theory the horde should be one of the easiest moments of the game because its all about pushing, dodging and clicking heads

theres no need for special weapons or ulting or this or that

[latent girder]

a poxwalker horde

at least

[leaden quest]

In T3, I can do it well enough. But I guess I'm not quite solid enough with my combos and dodges at T4...

[fluid flare]

move from side to side, like a crab, while attacking hordes to prevent them from surrounding you. create a line that you will not let them through, moving as needed like a swinging pendulum, to prevent them from passing it.

[latent girder]

mix hordes are another story

[rigid wasp]

yeah, mixed hordes get wonky

when a mauler stops your cleave it gets annoying

[latent girder]

or the crusher squads that show up now

[formal granite]

[fervent ridge]

Wiggle wiggle

[rigid wasp]

at least for the two classes i play they have good tools to deal with certain emergencies, like the psyker having kinetic barrage and good damage buffs, and zealot having solid toughness dr and holy revenant

when theres a rager in the horde, i tag it, ult, dodge back and start firing

[leaden quest]

Hm. How do you handle your toughness getting shredded by shooters while you're busy dealing with a horde?

That's another thing that tends to get me badly.

[rigid wasp]

i use the laspistol and shredder a lot to fit ranged attacks between melee, so things get more manageable

hordes protect you from shooters, and you can also rush them to force them into melee

[latent girder]

generally someone should be clearing shooters even in hordes if they can, normally a vet

[leaden quest]

Really? I feel like I'm getting shot through them

Just like the trapper can net you through them...

[rigid wasp]

people also sleep on suppression, and firing your gun wildly in the direction of shooters is already a solid start

[latent girder]

not wrong

[fervent ridge]

Would you nerds like to play in abt 15 minutes

I need to do weeklies

[leaden quest]

Sure

[rigid wasp]

my horde rhythm usually involves dodging left and right to try to hold a wide front, which also ends up giving me space to keep dodging left and right to avoid certain undesirables

like that imbecile with the net

the dog is the worst, though

[fervent ridge]

I'll dm you my Stem

[rigid wasp]

i theorize the dog incites packet loss on your connection or something because i cant dodge the cunt for shit

its like a game feature

i would like to play, though i worry for the ping that happened last time

i have played a few matches at 360 ping with some lads today and it was a bit of an owie oof oof in terms of feedback

though i was under the impression the enemies were having as hard of a time hitting me

[fluid flare]

retreat into cover, away from the enemy shooter sightlines, and then fight the horde.

retreating is an underrated strategy when dealing with enemy shooters. they will, like idiot lemmings, eventually follow you through whatever chokepoint you retreated behind, and then you can bash their faces in.

[muted geyser]

how long is the "Bull rush" cooldown timer? trying to go for the "dont stop me now!" penance and i need to bull rush twice in less than 20 seconds to get it..
i have "unstoppable" for distance and "bullfighter" that shaves 10% off for every special kill

[mighty rune]

i have 30sec when i charge

[muted geyser]

so its a 30 second cooldown?
damn.. wish there was a penance that makes the skills cooldown faster

[woeful root]

you could lfg with a psyker that has Psykinetic's Aura (15% CDR to allies in coherency whenever the Psyker kills an elite/special)

[mighty rune]

is there a channel reserved for that? cuz i may need help with penances myself

[woeful root]

there are some LFG channels down yonder, though I personally haven't LFGed so I don't know if you'll get any helpers or not

[mighty rune]

thank you 😄

[muted geyser]

i see, thanks for the tip!

[fluid flare]

yeah, that's all you need. charge, kill 5 elites in 5 seconds to reduce CD to 15 sec, charge out again ASAP. it's tight, but you'll get it.

[muted geyser]

ive been doing that non stop in every mission since i started going for it, thanks for the tip

[fluid flare]

something that helped me get it was the bombs away feat

throw two boxes at the nearest armored elite immediately after charging to spread as much AoE damage into the enemies as possible

[muted geyser]

hm.. good point, i should try that. maybe even bring a friend to run a psyker with psykinetics aura to help out on the cooldown. could bring it down even faster

[plucky vine]

Anyone have any advice on scab stalkers? They seem by far the most danger shooting mob, especially in large number.

[strange kiln]

are you forward sliding a lot

[rigid wasp]

a laspistol and a blast to the head fix a lot of problems

if youre on zealot, you can also dash the group to force them into melee

psyker can use deflector and a fast ranged weapon, or brain burst from cover, or ult to stagger and rush them

also do get flak on the weapon you want to maul them with

[woeful root]

while scab stalkers will tear through your toughness, they don't deal all that much hp damage so it's usually ok to be aggressive against them unless there are scab shooters around

[rich rock]

are blessings unlocked accountwide or characterwide?

[tepid skiff]

account, thank god.

[rich rock]

bless you kindly, thats what i was hoping to hear!

[haughty pelican]

Would blessing acquired on Rashad axes work on Antax axes?

[woeful root]

yup, Combat Axe blessings can be transferred over from one another

[haughty pelican]

Thank you

[woeful root]

as far as I can tell, the rule is that the latter part of a weapon's name indicates the family it belongs to (and thus the weapons to and from which blessings can be shared)

[haughty pelican]

That makes so much more sense thanks for the detailed explanation.

[toxic idol]

Hey guys, I tried earlier to destroy a cutlass weapon to get the blessing from it to use on my mkV sword. However when I went to bless my mkV the blessing was not their? Does each weapon have its own tree? so that blessing is only available for the cutlass

[tepid skiff]

for weapon groups. there are three dueling sword models, which share blessings library between themselves. likewise with three force swords. but they do not share it outside of those groups.

[toxic idol]

Ok so the family of weapons all share the blessings, thanks for the help @tepid skiff

[balmy notch]

why is there a lock symbol on the 2 perk

[warm nebula]

You rerolled the first perk

[balmy notch]

yea idid

[tepid skiff]

not sure what answer you expect. you can change 1 perk on any item, curio or not. others get locked.

[balmy notch]

so the locked ones are not active?

[tepid skiff]

so the answer to 'why' is 'because fatsharks'.

[warm nebula]

They are active, you just can’t change them

[tepid skiff]

they're very much active, just can't be changed.

[balmy notch]

ah ok

ty

[river roost]

hi, i need help with one penance, am i in the correct chat ?

[knotty vessel]

Does the Ogryn "toughness coherency (allies)" also affect the ogryn?

[river roost]

it only benefits you

[knotty vessel]

huh?

I'm the ogryn

[knotty vessel]

that (Allies in coherency) is hella confusing

[river roost]

agreed

[rigid wasp]

usually people come to the help chat not expecting a specific answer because they dont know about the thing theyre asking about, hence why theyre asking in the first place

[fallow rivet]

Guys, have anyone recently completed prenatural dodge penance?

Mine is stuck on 9/12 no matter how many times I dodge in isolated environment with 1 mob 1 vs 1

Stick to group is the best option

[woeful root]

you could have somebody be at the front to be bait, hang out by doorways and spam light attacks with melee, find tight spots that corral dogs into a chokepoint, etc.

[haughty pelican]

Is Fire Frenzy good on the Mk VIII Braced Autogun? If not what are the desired blessings?

[latent girder]

fire frenzy and deathspitter are you ideal blessings on it

[tepid skiff]

i disagree. stacks are too brief, and brauto is often used not in mag dumps, but in short aimed bursts.

so, rather, there are no clearly superior blessings, but you can slap whatever you like and test yourself. for instance, i run defensive stuff like hit-n-run and terrifying barrage, for casual walking amidst any horde.

i mean, fire frenzy is good, no argument here. it's just it's not a mandatory pick that transforms a weapon into a powerhouse, like pinning fire on an autopistol.

[weak sleet]

Yeah for real, all they had to do was write when allies in Coherency and it would be unambiguous

[wanton aspen]

is overkill damage just extra damage that doesnt matter because they would have died from a the smaller amount?

[fervent ridge]

Ye

[carmine oar]

Why sink any time into this game if at the flip of a switch something you've spent an absurd amount of time chasing is invalidated

[woeful root]

why not; I've got other stuff in life to do if this game ever does go under

like play other games

[fervent ridge]

Or bully people online

that's fun too

[formal granite]

[fervent ridge]

leads the pack of 6 crushers and 4 ragers on top of the camo vet so that when they reflexively flinch all enemies suddenly are alerted to their presence and instagibs them

[vernal plaza]

Followed by frantic movement and a ? When their camo stopped working

[fervent ridge]

Yeah I see that too often

Lol

[tepid skiff]

a vet with camo is actively griefing his team by his very existance.

ergo, it's a team duty to grief him back.

[jagged shuttle]

The only time I’ve seen reasonable camo is during one of the hourglass maps, when you drop down into the open area and need those power cells. A vet with helbore went to the highest position there and provided overwatch

Pretty sure he was using camo.

[rigid wasp]

camo can have legitimately intelligent uses, just they like using it to save their own asses

and also it being half-uncontrollable is annoying

[river roost]

looking for help to obtain a penance

[orchid lynx]

anyone know if there is some kind of trick or step to getting High rolls on weapons from Brunts Armory? I keep playing games to save up Dockets, buy like 7 or 8 of the weapon I want and they are all at 300-330 range for their stats, I have 4 toons all at level 30 and am running Heresy mostly trying to get money to get the weapons i want

[strange kiln]

no, but if you can you should always run damnation

losing games of damnation generally gives you more crafting mats than winning heresy

and that's the scarcist resource ultimately. i got almost all of my decently statted stuff from the store

[orchid lynx]

my weapons are not great enough for Damnation, thats why im trying to roll some decent ones T.T

[orchid lynx]

same my strongest gun was a lucky buy from the store

[analog salmon]

Has Fatshark given a clear answer on whether or not damage numbers or health bar mods are fair game yet? I know they weren't sanctioned in V2

[woeful root]

the mod has been in the game for a few months, and a fatshark employee hangs out on the modding discord; so it's presumably a-okay

seems like a green light until they explicitly say that it's not allowed

[analog salmon]

Hopefully they come out warning people before they start swinging the ban hammer. I have no desire to make other players experience crappy, I just like math and numbers. Give me that sweet sweet dopamine.

[woeful root]

they'll probably warn us if they ever decide to turn EAC back on again

[analog salmon]

That makes a lot of sense, any word on perk reroll mods? I swear I was clicking that button for 30 minutes last night at 0 cost zzz

[woeful root]

yeah there's the reroll until rarity mod

the name's a bit of a holdover, and you can reroll for a specific perk with it now

[fluid flare]

Look at the Darktide Nexus page for mods you want

[analog salmon]

Finding the mods isn't the issue, it's deciphering which mods are gonna catch flak and which aren't. For better or for worse fatksharks stance seems to be "don't be a jerk and don't give yourself premium cosmetics" which a little vague for my liking. I'm not trying to lose 200+ hours for a little QoL ya know?

[fluid flare]

I doubt they'll ban people out of nowhere without giving folks a chance to uninstall certain mods once they are found wanting

There's a Dev hanging out in the modding Discord to keep an eye on things

[analog salmon]

Yeah I think you're right about that. And that's a fair point about the Dev hanging out in the disc. Hopefully there would have been comments made about the handful of most popular mods including the perk reroll

[fluid flare]

Perk reroll is definitely fine, it's been out for months

[strange kiln]

i do not expect, if a particular mod gets outlawed, for users to be banned, or at least not banned at the time the mod is explicitly disallowed

i would hope there would be some communication with devs about where the line is or what have you, but if something crosses it i would expect it to be banned rather than the user? maybe that's mistaken

[coral tide]

normally when a mod is banned the users have a window of time to uninstall the given mod. if they keep using it after that window closes then they could face bans

[uneven kraken]

My graphics settings will not save, any ideas as to why?

[woeful root]

did you set user_settings to read only?

[uneven kraken]

that is what I was wondering if I had done that at some point, I just recently started playing again, but I can literally not find that file in the directory

[woeful root]

this is the path on my computer
C:\Users\[your username]\AppData\Roaming\Fatshark\Darktide\user_settings.config

[uneven kraken]

ohhh its in app data that is why I cant find it

makes so much sense

I will look ,thank you

[uneven kraken]

yep that is why, thank you so much!

I changed it for some reason on launch of the game lol

[bronze vigil]

I just hit 30. What's wisdom?

Buy white wpns and roll the ones with good dmg stats and try to land 1 good blessing and perk?

[strange kiln]

run as hard as you can, since damnation (even LI) pays out insane amounts of plasteel, it's equal or better returns to lose damnation than win heresy generally

keep checking the store for high stat items you want, the store is by far the easiest/cheapest route still. store whites and greens are most valuable

brunts is a complete crapshoot, expect to spend 100-200k plasteel to get a 370, sometimes more sometimes less

but you can use your excess plasteel to level up high level (even if not viable due to stats) items to blue and pull the blessings off them to fill out your blessing inventory

eventually you will roll up a high level item with both blessings you want. this is extremely variable depending on the specific item (blessing pools range from 4 to like 12, ie, if you want two specific blessings lol)

the worst grind by far is curios and those are still store only

[orchid dirge]

Any news on gamepass pc crossplay to steam pc?

[tepid skiff]

none so far.

[shell heron]

can you change your guys name

[restive tulip]

official statement is no, they don’t have a system to change names or voices easily, they would’ve liked to put it in the barber shop

[shell heron]

damn thanks

was gonna make each of my guys a funny class appropiate name instead of just the same username on each but theyre already like lvl 14 so i dont want to make a new one lol

[undone sphinx]

How does pinpoint accuracy work on the gauntlet for ogryn, do you just have to melee enemies with it 3 times to get the power increase

[fluid flare]

no, you have to hold your attack

but it doesnt work right dont bother with it

[mild sky]

do the different shotgun versions share blessings? or do i need to unlock them on all individually?

[latent girder]

they share blessings

[mild sky]

nice, is there a list what shares and not? or is it always shared between versions of the same weapon, just not between different weapons (even if they can have same blessings)

oh also, is there a list somewhere or some easy way to see if a blessing stops at 3 or 4?

[latent girder]

so if you look at the weapon the last part of the name will be the type of weapon

so weapons that have that same type share blessings

so like it's a kantreal mgxii infantry lasgun

so it shares blessings with the other infantry lasguns

[mild sky]

ok, so a "Infantry Autogun" and "Braced Autogun" do not share. but 2 Braced of different types would

[latent girder]

yeah

[mild sky]

thanks! know of any way to see if a blessing stops at 3 or 4 for a weapon?

[latent girder]

as far as I know all blessings that have multiple tiers stop at 4

but some are only one tier

[mild sky]

ah ok, and the ones with only one can be either 3 or 4?

[latent girder]

I think there is like one or two that are only t2

[mild sky]

alright, I wish the game would still show the blessings instead of "?" for the ones I don't have. right now it it hard to know what to look for

[tepid skiff]

that'd be handy indeed.

[rigid wasp]

a welcome change

sucks having one tier with 11 blessings and another with 9, not knowing what you're missing from it

[tepid skiff]

it might even be moddable.

[frosty crag]

anyone explain why my gun is glowing?

[fervent ridge]

Visual glitch

That's all

[formal granite]

[frosty crag]

could this be improved or should i take a perk from it?

[autumn fjord]

hey guys, does anyone knows how to properly farm curios?

[formal granite]

best way would be to check the shop every hour it has 2 every refresh

[autumn fjord]

[fervent ridge]

I love this emote sm

[formal granite]

SAME its one of my favs

[rigid wasp]

Blessed by the Emperor. Go and spread the word.

[ocean beacon]

this like like blessings and perks and modifers you qNR

except change deadly accurate to ghost maybe

[lucid radish]

https://gyazo.com/7c496dcc36f6969ed5dd3977600145ea

IS MY SHOVEL GOOD

[little coyote]

get brutal momentum on it and it will be

[lucid radish]

why would I want that

[tough epoch]

So your shovel can be good.

[little coyote]

it has very little cleave without it

[mystic frost]

Anyone got good blessing picks for a Vraks VII headhunter autogun? Not sure what to go for

[ripe dawn]

can anyone explain to me how brunts armory works?
the random drop items goes with your current equiped item or what?
and after that, you just upgrade it in hadrons?

[tepid skiff]

opening salvo is probably the most sizeable and reliable boost. the other one is flexible: you can get stuff like headhunter, surgical, no respite, that'll grant some added damage, but not much and not always. or defensive staples like ghost or terrifying barrage, also good stuff. most blessings on hh guns are good, in fact.

[tepid skiff]

drop quality scales just with your character level, apparently. and it's like 98% shit, so be prepared to dump half a million there before you get something decent. and that'll get bricked by hadron afterwards, yes.

[plain berry]

Does anyone else get hand pain from this game

[fervent ridge]

half a billion later

[tepid skiff]

ye, when hunting for something specific it's pure pain.

like, say, i only got a decent thammer after 700 hours played.

pure rng.

[restive tulip]

i installed autofire mods to minimize this

a godsend for semi auto guns

[plain berry]

I must be gripping my mouse too hard

[simple kite]

if anyone knows this: what does the "overkill damage" stat stand for in the scoreboard mod?

[uneven bough]

damage that is over the current HP of the target

so it's "wasted"

[simple kite]

I wonder why it gets highlighted as if it's important, then

that's what I thought it was

but it's odd that scores are seemingly "rewarded" for having more useless damage than less

[rigid wasp]

Because it means you are also dealing more damage to enemies that do have more health

You can overkill a horde with a plasma gun, but that reaper doesn't feel like going down easy

Also in the case of hordes and cleaving in general, you deal less damage to the non-first targets, so the higher your weapon's damage, the higher the cleave damage should be

You can overkill the first, but can you overkill the rest?

[uneven bough]

it says a lot more about your weapon than how you play. Displaying it is fine, using for (meaningless) the score calculations at all is questionable

[simple kite]

maybe it doesn't actually provide value in score calculations. But it sure seems like it does, which is odd

[rigid wasp]

Specially since the scoreboard is a mod and subject to the biases of the creator

I mean, are you really letting some random modder tell you which part of your playstyle is more valuable?

[simple kite]

no

I'm just wondering why he thinks it is valuable

and whether I was missing something

[rigid wasp]

Cuz he a sussy baka

[simple kite]

not like scoreboards are gospel

[rigid wasp]

I only use the scoreboard to check damage taken and taggable kills

[simple kite]

even if they were officially sanctioned instead of strung together by one dude on Nexus Mods

[rigid wasp]

When I grab dueling sword instead of illisi, my weakspot goes through the roof, but the killing power rockets down

So I get a bunch of weakspot hits but less lesser enemies killed

Wacky

[uneven bough]

The overkill damage isn't necessarily even accurate according to the dev. Anyway the stats aren't meant to be taken too seriously, they are for yourself

[rigid wasp]

I think I once managed to do more overkill than actual damage

Funny force sword finesse

Rarted multipliers

[simple kite]

again, I am not taking them that seriously

so don't worry about that

I was only curious as to whether I was missing something, because it would seem odd to me to highlight overkill damage as a useful thing, when it is in practice either benign (for weapons that do a lot of natural overkill) or actively a bad thing (for weapons that do steady single damage, which means you're either not making breakpoints, or you're regularly attacking weakened mobs)

either way, it means what I thought it meant, so thanks for the confirmation

[simple kite]

new scoreboard question

how do you actually make it track medicae deployments and staggered enemies and such? It always shows me 0 across the board for various metrics, and I see those metrics working on others' games from screenshots

maybe I just need a fresh install or something

[neon galleon]

is there a particular map that spawns lots of dregs?

[simple kite]

No. Coin flips to determine if a map is primarily dregs or primarily scabs

[neon galleon]

thanks pal

[quick remnant]

There are often both on the maps, the only fixed part are the Lord Assassination where you have wave of Scab iirc

[simple kite]

nah, I just got waves of Dregs and Scabs in an Ass map

[quick remnant]

During the End fight ? When you're fighting the Lord ?

[wind panther]

Good roll?

[keen basalt]

yea basically around the cap of the modifiers

[humble leaf]

ok opinion time i enjoy ogryn style of storm in an mess things up and the uga-duga of the stubber but feel like he is lacking a lil something, what should be my next class?

[rigid wasp]

Zealot

[humble leaf]

what are the good ranged options for the zealot?

[rigid wasp]

Flamer, shredder, shotguns, auto guns, kantrael, bolter probably some others I’m not thinking of

[humble leaf]

didn't the flamers get nerfed? and can the zealot kinda jack of all trade it?

[rigid wasp]

Flamer is still a flamer

[humble leaf]

zealots a good all rounder (minus tank health)

?

[rigid wasp]

Yeah

[humble leaf]

thanks

[vocal nacelle]

The nerf is you can cook the whole room in 5s before now you need 10s to cook the whole room

[tepid skiff]

and you need to consider its use more carefully, because ammo can actually run out now.

also, best zealot ranged is revolver.

[undone sphinx]

for 2585 is this a good cop?

[fervent ridge]

Absolutely

[undone sphinx]

idk how good bully club is specifically but with perks like this and a max roll its gonna do something

[fervent ridge]

Yea me neither I don't play Oggy but this seems insanely worth just for the base rating alone before looking at double T4 blessings either of which you can rip off

[leaden quest]

Perks seem meh, but the rest will do plenty of work

[lone flower]

Does someone know what to do for this portrait frame?
I know it has something to do with the Auspex Scanner.

[tepid skiff]

don't think it's obtainable currently.

[jovial junco]

Was melk nerfed? Have been logging in daily for the past 2 weeks for my veteran and zealot and i rarely see good weapons or tier 4 blessings anymore. It used to have at least 1 tier 4 daily.

[lone flower]

it is, saw it two times at other players

[tepid skiff]

interesting. i haven't seen it ever, neither on players, nor, more pertinently, on any of the penances.

so there might be something weird here.

[formal granite]

250 investigations

[tough epoch]

damn

time to be an extra-no life and try to get that

because that is one neat portrait

[paper haven]

im working on the special modifier frame.

[reef hornet]

think they'll add another investigation and repair mission?

[lone flower]

can you post?

[visual vector]

how does one do the psyker heresy penances with no friends that play the game 😭

[paper haven]

no. im on my phone and at work.

sorry bud

[little coyote]

asking for randoms you join with to help you and hoping for friendly people

[turbid harness]

anyone able to help with a few malice penances?

[raven latch]

For the sharpshooter's penance "Make every shot count" can you get your gun empty with the 100% accuracy and then just use melee the rest of the mission to get it?

[little coyote]

dunno I used the plasma gun and used all the excess ammo as well before the end

[latent cloak]

Does the rarity of a weapon upgrade influence the chances of receiving a T4 blessing. For instance, is there a greater chance of receiving a T4 blessing upgrading to yellow over to blue?

[vast quartz]

Does anyone know if there is a way to track penances as you go through a mission?

[leaden quest]

As far as I know, yes.

[latent girder]

we believe so,

[elder spire]

you unfortunately have to resort to using the LFG channels, sometimes you get lucky, i got my malleus monstronum armor thanks to a bunch of randos

[left skiff]

you just ask the people in your game

its not that uncommon

[elder spire]

its legit almost impossible in public sessions, you have to ask in here

[wheat crown]

Is there a clear reason for two different crafting materials? The lower grade stuff seems to be far more limiting than the higher grade. Does this eventually sort itself out?

[tepid skiff]

nope. you'll sit on multiple thousands of diamantine until fatsharks figure out a way to use it.

but, if it's any consolation, with current system "multiple thousands" isn't all that much.

[frosty crag]

best perks for mk3 power sword?

[vagrant spade]

hey where do I report extremely toxic players

this guy is such a loser

[coral violet]

yeah but no one cares

block them

[fervent ridge]

What class was he on

so I can look out for him in my games

[jagged shuttle]

It says in The bottom right

Zealot

[fervent ridge]

I represent all Zealots to disown this guy

Feed him to the dogs

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1078922307394879508.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[formal granite]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1078922307394879508.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[fervent ridge]

Or put him into a team with 3 Psykers, it will end well

[formal granite]

insert psycho laughing in elevator clip

[fervent ridge]

fellow Psyker instantly stabs him

[glossy trout]

it may have been nerfed (though i'm not sure), but i was doing just fine on heresy/damnation with it, and i don't even have a transcendent one

[latent girder]

it did get nerfed

but it is still like

top 3-4 weapon in the game

[civic spade]

What's the difference between the two power sword patterns.

[latent girder]

different movesets

the mk6 has a better single target combo but the mk3 has better heavies(at least if you aim at head height)

[old bronze]

This is why I have randomized names and chat block. It's amazing 🤩 it's like I'm playing with bots

[keen basalt]

voip disabled

[simple nest]

anyone able to help me level up my Psyker?

[fervent ridge]

How do you mean level up your psyker

Like, play for you?

[onyx girder]

he probably wants someone to play with

that's my guess (I would, but im at work rn)

[fervent ridge]

Goodluck at work

Just got off myself a couple hours ago

And yea if you wanna play let's go, I'm off tomorrow lol so I can stay up today

[simple nest]

Yeah, I mean someone to play with 🙂

[fluid flare]

@simple nest wrong channel, check the #vox-lfg-lexicanum

[stark drift]

Hi can someone join me to help with the 'going out with a bang' penance on my psyker please?

[jagged shuttle]

If you can’t find anyone: Grab yourself a commsplex mission and optimally the 6 warp charge perk for more damage. Make sure your teammates are okay with your plan. At the midpoint data interrogation section, shotgunners and gunners will spawn at the entrance to the room. Use them to get the penance

[stark drift]

Thanks, will try that plan, by now I was trying my luck with pox hounds but it seems it doesn’t count…

[jagged shuttle]

Yeah pox hounds are specials

Not elites

They are valid for pick n mix however, which also can be done at the exact same place at commsplex

[weak sleet]

Because no one seems to have answered you - you can report them here: https://support.fatshark.se/hc/en-us/requests/new

According to reddit, quote, "It was taken serious and the response was pretty fast."

[vagrant spade]

I appreciate it thank you

[fading stirrup]

Would anyone be willing to help out with the heavyweight champion penance for the ogryn? So far I was not lucky trying via the random queue. Ideally together with other Ogryns I suppose so that everyone can benefit from it.
I managed to get all the other class based penances as a solo player. But for this specific one, help would be much appreciated.

[fair silo]

Quick question. For the purpose of damage resistance on trinkets, are gunners and shooters the same thing?

[latent girder]

no

gunner resistance only applies to elite "gunners" and reapers

it doesn't apply to shooters, stalkers or shotgunners

[fair silo]

Thanks for the heads up. Does shooter resist exist?

[latent girder]

nope

[fair silo]

Hm, shoot. No pun intended.

Im having trouble dealing with shooter mobs on tier 5 as zealot

[delicate warren]

Dodging, sliding are the best counters to shooters.

[rigid wasp]

Imagine if gunner resist didn't include reapers

[tepid skiff]

if it's any consolation, everybody does. shooters is by far the biggest threat and impediment to progress. which further compounds the issue of vet being overpowered, and brings him into a solo carry territory.

[rocky birch]

I took a good weeks break off of darktide and I'm gonna try to get On Overwatch again. Anyone care to help?

[rigid wasp]

Which one was that?

[rocky birch]

Take no melee damage on Malice or above

It's the last Penance I need before getting to On Target 3

I want the helmet with a bandana

And I'm not shelling more money to the game.

So... Care to help @rigid wasp

[rigid wasp]

I could give a hand some other time

Right now I'm taking a bit of a break

Maybe in a few hours, if I don't forget and go to sleep

[rocky birch]

Fair enough. Take your time.

[stark drift]

Anyone willing to help me complete ‘Flawless Execution’?

[rocky birch]

Whassat

Oh.

[jagged shuttle]

If you really want it the easiest way go for low intensity malice missions. But otherwise I actually like that penance as the 15 games no downs in a row is a true test of skill

[stark drift]

I already know that, I was asking for people. I tried playing with randoms but they can’t stay together or don’t focus on specials.

[jagged shuttle]

That sucks. I was able to get all 15 with pubs

[misty path]

question; does toughness regeneration speed affect the rate that at which toughness regen or the time until toughness regen begins?

[latent girder]

both

[misty path]

wtf that's really powerful

[tepid skiff]

it is, yes. it's one of the most valuable curio perks. but it only applies to a native regen, not feat recovery.

with the exception of lynchpin, which also applies to native, and stacks with curios.

[tacit elm]

What exactly is a critical hit in darktide in terms of default bonuses to cleave, impact, damage, and penetration?

IS there even a default or is it different for every weapon? For the sake of an uncomplicated answer just disregard weapons with a crit rating

[candid gyro]

in terms of damage at least thats different you can see it on the damage sheet, some get small bonus like caxe, some get huge bonus like laspistol

[woeful root]

for most weapons, a critical hit is a damage, stagger, and penetration/rending increase (the rending is only given to attacks that deal less than a certain % threshold of damage to a particular armour type it seems)

I don't believe crits modify cleave, and the 2nd target and beyond hit in a cleave have a lower crit multiplier applied to them compared to the first target hit (most of the time)

I'm not sure how crits and their cleave distribution with guns; some exceptions that I know of are the power sword and Illisi force sword's special which maintain full critical damage for the first three targets instead of just the first

[tacit elm]

The Illisi in particular is a weapon Im interested in. How does its guaranteed crit after force kill compare to Slaughterer 4?

[woeful root]

The special has reduced crit power than usual. With 80% Finesse and if you hit a bodyshot...
- The first three targets take 1.474x more damage from a crit
- The 4th target and beyond take 1.15x more damage from a crit

But, the contribution from critical hits is lowered when you hit a weakspot. WIth 80% Finesse and you hit a weakspot...
- The first three targets take 1.214x more damage from a crit
- The 4th target and beyond take 1.087x more damage from a crit

Compare that to t4 slaughterer at max stacks, which is a direct 1.75x increase to damage, cleave, and stagger to all attacks normal and special

There's pretty much no competition between slaughterer and the other blessings for the force swords (if you're using it for hordeclear)

[rigid wasp]

Dare I add that rending is something that works on flamers, so if you get reliable rending you'll kill flamers faster

With uncanny strike (I think it was t3?) my knife heavy goes from 696 to 1218 on a headshot

[woeful root]

depends on the weapon

knife probably just deals <100% damage to maniacs by default

[rigid wasp]

Wait, so that is the damage reduction rending speaks of?

[woeful root]

yeah

[rigid wasp]

Living and learning

[woeful root]

if a weapon deals, say, 75% damage to carapace, then 50% rending will make you deal 75% + 12.5% = 87.5% damage

with the 12.5% coming from 25% * 50%

[rigid wasp]

I need to check my knife, I don't think the damage reduction was that high

Seems to be half

Though the damage almost doubles with rending, which is weird

[woeful root]

just checked in-game and my knife with 140 base heavy dmg deals 70 damage to maniac, so that does come out to 50% damage to maniac

makes sense that you got the numbers that you did with uncanny

[fluid flare]

indeed

rending/brittleness was probably supposed to just work on flak and carapace, the two armor types that generally reduce damage the most, but the formula seems to work on any armor type that your weapon does not deal full base damage to.

[gleaming wren]

if i'm crafting weapons to farm for high tier blessings, should i stop at blue or go on to orange if the blue blessing is no good? is there a higher chance of a good blessing on the orange roll than the blue one?

[fervent ridge]

We don't know and it hasn't been proven atm

Just to be economic with your plasteel, you're recommended to stop at Blue if it's bad so you can raise more grey Brunts

Just rely on Melks daily and Emps gift to get t3 or t4 blessings

Upgrading grey > gold from brunts is too costly, and a bad gamble at best

[haughty pelican]

Is there a preferred location to wait for the elevator on Vigil Station during Espionage missions?

I have found recently most pug groups I do this mission with fail after collecting the first set of samples while waiting for the elevator to descend. In the past I have always camped at the door but it seems 8/10 times that the whole team is split.

I'm guessing this is an byproduct of playing with pugs or maybe even where I feel is the best place to wait is incorrect.

[warm nebula]

The place to group up with your team, is wherever they are. Doesn’t matter if “they’re not in the right place”… they are where they are.
“Your team’s position is determined by the player who is in the weakest position” -Ghurm’s Garage, YT

[haughty pelican]

That’s a fair point.

[formal granite]

i like the left side building where the respawn is theres an elite wave + sniper usually that i like to spawn kill immediately and the building has a lot of cover in case shit goes wrong

[glossy solstice]

personally i just camp the exits, there's like 3 areas (1 left, 1 forward from elevator, 1 right), that most enemies will spawn from

the middle one has a dropdown where you can hit them before they even touch the ground if you're fast enough at shooting/hit them through the floor

[jagged shuttle]

Once I was at the door but my teammates ran off and then I got slowly cornered and killed by bomber fire

[surreal current]

I saw a mention of "forbidden" blessings on here earlier, what does it mean? I think it relates to certain blessings not showing up on shop weapons?

[latent girder]

huh

there are some blessings that got found in the files

that aren't obtainable but afaik those are it

[simple kite]

you can see whether a weapon has a "forbidden blessing" on the Gameslantern website

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/weapon-blessing-traits?query=unobtain this is the full list

many are absurdly strong and are unlikely to have ever been intended to go in the final game. Others are merely very interesting. I think Taunting Blow would be a really cool blessing for Hammer Zealots, for instance.

[latent girder]

taunting is garbage

all the weapons it's on can perma cc things

so it would only be useful on bosses and thats if it even worked on them

[knotty vessel]

How do you get a specific blessing? I've been consecrating at least 10 swords and still can't find the one I want (slaughterer).

really sucks

[fervent ridge]

You just

[latent girder]

welcome to darktide

[fervent ridge]

gamble until you get it

(lol)

Yea this is the blessings farming experience, sorry dear Novello

[knotty vessel]

Okay just making sure there wasn't a better way of doing it

who TF decided gambling and grinding till you get a fucking blessing was fun?

[latent girder]

how are you upgrading them? taking it all the way to gold or just to blue?

[fervent ridge]

It's entirely luck based, I've spent 5 million ordos and about 20,000 plasteel making like 200 hammers in my search for Thrust IV and I still don't have it, but some people also randomly got it gifted via Big Emps gift

[knotty vessel]

All the way to gold

[latent girder]

hmm i'd not do unless you are specifically hunting for sluaght 4

[fervent ridge]

nah don't do that, stop at blue, add it to blessings if it's one you don't have, sell it if it's not what you're looking for

That's the most economic way to spend your plasteel

[latent girder]

unless it rolls another good blessing

on the blue and has good stats and perks

[knotty vessel]

ah really?

i figured gold would give u better blessings

[latent girder]

it can

we think

but also it's way more expensive

[formal granite]

blue can roll t4s and it costs like 3x more to get to orange

so unless the droprate is 3x more its probbaly not worth it

[knotty vessel]

righty

thanks for the tip