competitive_discussion

[shadow wind]

All praise Chinese Sun

[foggy lodge]

It had AV Groudon with howl clear amulet Gouging Fire

[stone trellis]

I KNEW AV DON WAS THE SHIT!

[foggy lodge]

It was quite popular at the time

[shadow wind]

Groudon
Gouging
Chien pao
Jumpluff
Urshifu
Bolt

Wait no

[foggy lodge]

It was uhh

[shadow wind]

Volc over Pluff

[stone trellis]

Oh, this team looks like the shit.

[foggy lodge]

It wasn pluff

[shadow wind]

I think that was it

[foggy lodge]

Yes it was Volc

[shadow wind]

Pao + Ursh feels wrong

[stone trellis]

Dark?

[shadow wind]

Obviously

[foggy lodge]

Ursh dark + pao felt so broken

Fuck CSR pagos machine

[stone trellis]

Hope they have some coverage for Fairy types.

[foggy lodge]

I also remember having it come down to speed ties cause everyone was running jolly shifu with band

[shadow wind]

Well yeah there’s 4 other mons on the team

[foggy lodge]

2 dragons and 2 darks

‼️‼️‼️

[stone trellis]

Volcarona, Raging Bolt, Gouging Fire and Groudon.

[shadow wind]

Those all hit fairies

[stone trellis]

For neutral, yes.

[foggy lodge]

But Volc can be a good switch in into fairies

[shadow wind]

Right with the 2 fairies in the entire format

[stone trellis]

Tera Fairy Ice Rider:

[foggy lodge]

What I found is that

1. That team had like 0 powder inmunities which is crazy

[shadow wind]

But they had nukage

[foggy lodge]

Yeah Amoonguss is hard to bring into that team

[stone trellis]

Looks more like HO than half of the teams I see being called that.

[shadow wind]

It was HO

[foggy lodge]

But 2.
It had kind of an autoloss into Regidrago lmao

[stone trellis]

How?

[foggy lodge]

0 dragon energy resistances

You had double sucker atleast tho

[shadow wind]

There’s one mon on that entire team with a spdef stat over 90

[foggy lodge]

And its fucking groudon

[stone trellis]

Volc.

[shadow wind]

Nah Volc

Groudon has 90

[stone trellis]

Groudon has 90.

[foggy lodge]

Damn I'm talking with one person in two accounts

[shadow wind]

Volc has like 105

[shadow wind]

Nah I’m cooler

[stone trellis]

Great minds just think alike.

Also, I'm the cooler one.

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 637: Volcarona

Types

Bug/Fire

Abilities

Flame Body, Swarm (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

85/60/65/135/105/100

Total

550

Sableye version 4.28.4

[shadow wind]

I’m so goated

[foggy lodge]

But yeah chinese sun was goated

But I used Groudon Jumpluff

[shadow wind]

Chinese Sun was so hard to use

[stone trellis]

We both have an agenda we maintain at all costs.

[shadow wind]

But man it was cool

[foggy lodge]

It was a linear team

Its just damage damage damage buttons buttons buttons

[stone trellis]

He uses Groudon, I use Ice Rider. It's up to you to decide who's cooler.

[shadow wind]

Sounds like the average Groudon team

[foggy lodge]

I am quite fond of Eternatus

[stone trellis]

It's HO, what were you expecting?

[shadow wind]

Lowkey me too

[foggy lodge]

Nah I used a lot of restricteds

[shadow wind]

Eternatus is fire

[foggy lodge]

But I think my main one is Koraidon

[shadow wind]

Koraidon is definitely who I’d use if Groudon exploded

Koraidon or Zama

[foggy lodge]

Been using that guy since it was facing the fraud allegations

[stone trellis]

Skillful gameplay, switching your key Pokemon to position better and using supports? That's for the balance losers.

[shadow wind]

But ride or die Groudon 🔥🔥🔥

[stone trellis]

Here's an idea.

[foggy lodge]

I kept using clam even after everyone said lorb was the only real set

[stone trellis]

We make a team together.

[shadow wind]

Groudon exploded because Reg H so there’s no point 😔

[stone trellis]

We still have Reg J.

[foggy lodge]

My only reg J team on my builder has a tera electric caly ice you don't want to make a team with me

[stone trellis]

Not talking to you.

[shadow wind]

Reg J😩😩😩

If Reg J had a Bo3 ladder I’d play it

But it doesn’t so I’m boycotting

[stone trellis]

You know the business and I know the chemistry.

[shadow wind]

I’ll ride Reg H out even if it kills me

I’ll re invent the wheel again

Like I’ve been saying for the past 2 months

[foggy lodge]

This format feels so solved

[shadow wind]

“But Scyther won a regional”

[foggy lodge]

The only interesting adaptation we have seen is like

The Sneasler and Blursa sets from the GV

And sash Basculegion

[shadow wind]

Nah I 100% agree

[foggy lodge]

It feels like you only run super standard teams with one or two weird sets that fix MUs

[shadow wind]

It’s getting very stale

Somehow more MU based than Reg G imo

[foggy lodge]

Tera electric lefties blursa with yawn is very cool tho

[foggy lodge]

It is

Marco talked about it because like

[stone trellis]

I think it does.

[shadow wind]

It doesn’t 😔

I’ve looked for it

[foggy lodge]

There are so many variants now that it makes everything harder to cover

[stone trellis]

We were so damn close.

The two most powerful agendas on the server could've worked together.

[foggy lodge]

My agenda is Porygon2

[shadow wind]

And it’s not even like cool team archetypes anymore

[foggy lodge]

(Porygon2 is ass rn)

[shadow wind]

Everything is balance

[foggy lodge]

The fall of P2 is so horrible man

[shadow wind]

The fall of Ttar

Ttar requires psyspam

Which I refuse to use

[foggy lodge]

This format asks for RNG I have to run tri attack ice beam P2

With trace to copy flame body

[shadow wind]

Yeah the only way to deal with the RNG right now is to be the one clicking blizzard and dire claw

[foggy lodge]

Dire claw has dropped in usage somehow

But Ninetales raised

[shadow wind]

Unlucky

I wish I had a king to build around

[foggy lodge]

I think that at the next tournament people will use Tytar

The Joey version

[shadow wind]

What’s that

[foggy lodge]

Tytar Excadrill Sneasler Indeedee male Annihilape and something more

I think it was Klefki?

[shadow wind]

Corv?

[foggy lodge]

Oh yeah it was Corv my bad

Corviknight is actually kinda cool you cook Sneasler Deedee

[shadow wind]

Yeah see it’s Ttar + psyspam

[foggy lodge]

Yeah

You can run Tytar Ursa P2!!!

[shadow wind]

“Cook” you definitely need to be +2 defense before you beat Sneasler

Cc definitely does too much

[foggy lodge]

Does it?

[shadow wind]

Dude CC does a stupid amount of damage

[foggy lodge]

Maybe it's because I'm imagining the CC coming from Sneasler

And forgetting that Sneasler has the same atk as Urshifu

[shadow wind]

Unfortunately

[foggy lodge]

But yesh idk if there's anything left to do with this formst

[shadow wind]

Hit #1 on ladder !

Been my goal the entire time I’m just too trash to do it

[foggy lodge]

#1 on ladder by spamming blizzard dire claw

[shadow wind]

I’ve actually never hit #1 on any ladder

[foggy lodge]

My goal is winning a local

[shadow wind]

Die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a villain

[foggy lodge]

Am I the most greedy person ever?

[shadow wind]

Nah that’s achievable for sure

I’ve won a single online tour

[foggy lodge]

Actually what's harder

[shadow wind]

And it was in Reg G1

[foggy lodge]

#1 on ladder or winning a local

[shadow wind]

Depends on the size of the local

[foggy lodge]

Uhmm

20 people

[shadow wind]

#1 on ladder then

[foggy lodge]

Yeah but my hot take is

[shadow wind]

Unless your local has 19 top players

[foggy lodge]

#1 on bo3 ladder > winning a local > #1 on bo1

[shadow wind]

I’ll agree with that

#1 on Bo1 ladder is just rng

But I mean I’ve won a 40 person tour and I haven’t hit #1 on either ladder

[foggy lodge]

Idk at my first local I saw two top cut international players and a regional winner

[shadow wind]

So who knows anymore

[foggy lodge]

Was I cooked from the start

[shadow wind]

Yeah that’s rough

I’ve only beaten a few top players on ladders

JAWNZU and Lorenzo Arce are the only ones I can actually remember right now

[foggy lodge]

I beated Fedecampo‼️

[shadow wind]

Goated

[foggy lodge]

Seawolfmikes too

[shadow wind]

Oh yeah I’ve beaten that guy loads

Not to say he’s not a great player

[foggy lodge]

I'm 1-1 with Mikes

[thorn mortar]

Turn one
*Enemy Zamazenta protects
*Enemy Broken shadow rider Tera ghosts
*My sableye tricks a ring target onto horse and gets a focus sash
*Annhiliape final gambit KO’s broken horse

Guy rage quits ranked

I’m going to be riding off of this high for a long time

[shadow wind]

We’ve played too many times for me to keep track but the last 3 games we’ve played I’ve won them all

And the only time I shared a team of the week I had a shared spot with him

So that was a kinda cool

[foggy lodge]

Damn

[shadow wind]

But Maya and Erik both have team of week posts to themselves so they’re way cooler than me

[thorn mortar]

Shame I can’t upload the clip

[shadow wind]

I think the team of the week system is pretty cool

https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/teams-of-the-week-week-25.3727451/page-2

Maya and I had back-to-back weeks

[stone trellis]

UBM lives it without +2 or a Defense-boosting nature.

Mudsdale lives it off of natural bulk alone.

I expect Corviknight to not take too much from it.

[waxen dock]

guys

how are you doing in terms of world invite?

[shadow wind]

0 champion points !!!!!

[visual flume]

Is there a way to get knock off on my incineroar without having the dlc?

[stone trellis]

Get traded the TM.

Or get traded an Incin who knows the move.

[visual flume]

Can i bother you for the knock off tm 🙏🏿

I got the other egg moves alr on my incin but i didnt realise he didnt learn knock off naturally

[waxen dock]

Im first in my region 😎

with 75 points

[shadow wind]

Nice job

[waxen dock]

AND 12TH PLACE IN THE GC

which is the thing that gave me these points

[shadow wind]

Does 75 points even qualify for worlds?

[waxen dock]

last year it was

but not for me

[shadow wind]

Oh nice

I know literally nothing about worlds and what it takes to make it there

All I know is that it’s the pinnacle of Pokemon

[waxen dock]

probably

idk if another person got more than 75 points when i didnt look

ok im still the only person there

so good ig

[shadow wind]

I wish you luck

[stone trellis]

Good luck.

[shadow wind]

The voices are telling me to use a certain dragon

I’ll sleep on the idea

If I dream about VGC I’ll be very disappointed in myself

[stone trellis]

I don't even know how to claim Championship Points and I got 295th, so I doubt I'll get anything.

[stone trellis]

GOATchomp?

[shadow wind]

Goatmo-o

[stone trellis]

Holy shit, these messages took 90 hours to send.

[stone trellis]

Fraudmo-o?

[shadow wind]

That’s why I’m sleeping on it

Last night I dreamt about smash bros melee so there’s like a 30% chance I’ll get the answer to if I use Kommo or not in the next 3 days

[stone trellis]

I figured out a really funny team.

The main idea is to use Own Tempo Mudsdale next to Swagger Grimmsnarl so I can rip the fattest High Horsepowers and Rock Slides ever.

[shadow wind]

I’ve used that with Tinkaton before

[waxen dock]

claim where?

[stone trellis]

Wide Lens boosts Swagger's accuracy to 93%, right?

[waxen dock]

you participated in the wrong gc

[stone trellis]

Aight.

Oh yeah, you're right.

[waxen dock]

also

did you connect your nintendo account to your play pokemon account?

[stone trellis]

I know, I unintentionally lied about my age division.

[waxen dock]

cuz i did

[stone trellis]

No, I don't know how.

[stone trellis]

Add in Rillaboom to prevent Indeedee from blocking Swagger and some other guys and my team is set.

[waxen dock]

you asked if youre still senior and when we said you were in masters you said that you want to be in the seniors gc

[shadow wind]

Psychic terrain doesn’t block priority on your own team

[waxen dock]

cuz it was more fun

[stone trellis]

I had already registered beforehand.

[shadow wind]

You can side target prio moves in psychic terrain

[waxen dock]

i think it does

[shadow wind]

It does not

Look it up

[stone trellis]

So why were people telling me that Prankster Coaching fails in it?

Oh well.

[shadow wind]

It definitely doesn’t

[stone trellis]

Rilla's still strong.

[shadow wind]

Man I’m like a myth buster for the most terrible beliefs tonight

[stone trellis]

And I don't want to use EQ because that'd neccessitate a Flying type.

[shadow wind]

I had to tell a guy earlier that steel didn’t resist water…

[stone trellis]

Or a Tera Flying user.

[waxen dock]

anyway next gc is next week and signups open in 2 days

[shadow wind]

I’m so excited to have a premonition about Kommo

[stone trellis]

I'll register in the proper division this time.

I'm just doing it for the love of the game, so I probably won't get as good of a performance this time around.

[shadow wind]

“For the love of the game” is the only way I play nowadays

[stone trellis]

Also, adding Rillaboom completes the FWG and gives Mudsdale recovery while still allowing it to hold AV.

[cyan smelt]

i want to try wp policy metagross but idk who to pair it with

[stone trellis]

Bulldoze user.

[cyan smelt]

yeah was thinking flygon which can be immune to earthquake

[stone trellis]

Sure.

They should actually cover for each other's weaknesses somewhat well.

[shadow wind]

If only Metagross wasn’t a psychic type man

He could’ve been so goated

Also did Gen 3 have 2 pseudos?

[stone trellis]

Yes.

The only one to do so.

[shadow wind]

Yeah

It’s a little bizarre

[stone trellis]

Salamence and Metagross.

Didn't both win Worlds twice?

Oh, Salamence won three times.

It might be the GOAT.

[shadow wind]

Only cause its mega had the nastiest ability of all time

[stone trellis]

It won at least one on its own.

[shadow wind]

Have intimidate then switch to an offensive ability is gross

[shadow wind]

True

[stone trellis]

Imagine if he was a Ghost type.

[shadow wind]

Don’t bring that possibility up

[stone trellis]

Metagross upscale?

[shadow wind]

Is ghost just the better psychic?

[stone trellis]

It is.

[shadow wind]

It’s not even like they’re that different

[cyan smelt]

flygon, metagross, maybe annihilape

[stone trellis]

Imagine if Ice Rider was Ice-Ghost instead of Ice-Psychic.

[shadow wind]

No thanks

[stone trellis]

Why Ape?

For Gholdengo?

[cyan smelt]

i like it and think it's super strong

[shadow wind]

Is there anything psychic does better than ghost?

[stone trellis]

Flygon could be holding the Choice Scarf.

[shadow wind]

Hit more things for super effective I guess

[stone trellis]

Kill Fighting types.

They both hit two.

[shadow wind]

Fighting and poison

[cyan smelt]

scarf dual wingbeat?

[stone trellis]

Dual Wingbeat, Bulldoze, U-turn and another move.

[cyan smelt]

dragon coverage?

[shadow wind]

Oh dang yeah

[stone trellis]

Bulldoze to proc WP and give some Speed control.

[stone trellis]

Claw?

[shadow wind]

I was thinking resistances I guess

[cyan smelt]

i need to look up what flygon can actually learn, what about sand tomb to prevent switches

[shadow wind]

Wait more sleep means more time for Kommo to tell me things

Means I must be going

[stone trellis]

Could work.

So Bullet Punch, Iron Head, EQ and Protect on Meta?

[cyan smelt]

wait i need to be focusing on partners then i focus on moves

[stone trellis]

You have three physical attackers already.

[cyan smelt]

is ape a good idea then

[stone trellis]

You need a good mon to deal with Ghost and Dark types.

Ape does that, right?

[cyan smelt]

yeah

[stone trellis]

Greninja could work quite well, actually.

Water Shuriken into Ape.

[cyan smelt]

i was using those two on my ninetales team

[stone trellis]

They could work here too.

[cyan smelt]

safety goggles ig

[stone trellis]

I'd make Gren physical to make Water Shuriken even weaker.

[cyan smelt]

i think i want greninja to be actually able to hurt stuff as well as proc ape

do i need secondary speed control?

[visual flume]

Wait lowkey could i trade someone with the dlc my incineroar get them to teach it the tm then get it traded back?

[frank sonnet]

what happens if a dondozo eats a poisoned tatsugiri and gets stat boosted, then the tatsugiri dies but u revive it and send it to battle again. Will the dondozo eat the tatsu a 2nd time and get all his stats boosted AGAIN?

[stone trellis]

Maybe.

[oak finch]

Possibly.

[stone trellis]

Shit, that sounds fun.

Tatsu, Dozo, Sylveon and Pawmot.

[dapper crag]

Pawmot is wild

[frank sonnet]

so pawmot for revival and sylveon for what?

[cyan smelt]

psych up

[frank sonnet]

ohh that would be crazy!

it looks like Rabsca learns both revival and psych up 😮

[cyan smelt]

ehhh rabsca in a meta with powerful dark and ghost types, idk

[oak finch]

now add perish trap to it 😈

[frank sonnet]

ohh what about Flamigo with the Costar ability?

[cyan smelt]

the problem with having too many mons reliant on stat boosts is one haze wipes it all out

[frank sonnet]

oh riiight, RIP flamigod

[real prairie]

Murder the haze mons

[frank sonnet]

true, flamigo has decent speed

[real prairie]

I always try kill D'nite before i set up Arch

[dapper crag]

Very move

Of all time

[real prairie]

?

[stone trellis]

Haze.

[real prairie]

Who as a 6th? I'm caught between late game sweeper, After you Politoed enabler or a trick room redirect (like the stupid macha cup)

https://pokepast.es/7f52c7852ace0238

helps if i share the team when i say it lol

[cyan smelt]

Yeah probably the teacup

You have a big sneasler weakness

[real prairie]

Oddly enough, Politoed does quite well into Sneasler

teacup seems like a better option for Ursaluna, just can't hit it for good damage

also once Arch is at +6 sneasler isn't threatening shit 🤣

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/StriiderPKMN/status/1970556697170067843

Striider (@StriiderPKMN)

Important to note that @tsltang0508 is the OG creator of the team, neither Chuppa or I made that very clear in our interviews, and this tournament would never have been possible without the goat SV team builder!

X · Sep 23, 2025, 6:31 PM

Another team created by Shiliang Tang

Shiliang is probably the best teambuilder from SV

[solid frigate]

Tang Gang domination

[cerulean nacelle]

I finally got my lower tier draft team members sorted

Azelf
Chandelure
Swampert
Cyclizar
Florges
Oricorio
Scovillain
Grafaiai
Bastiodon
Glaceon

Bastiodon and glaceon are my tera captains.

I did actually want pawmot over oricorio pompom but it got sniped. Then electrode-hisui got sniped a turn after which was my back up.

[waxen dock]

what is tera captain?

[dense latch]

it's a singles draft thing iirc

[cerulean nacelle]

Your tera captains are the pokemon that are allowed to terastalise on your team.

[dense latch]

not many people here actually play singles though

[cerulean nacelle]

I personally prefer singles. Doubles doesn't appeal to me the same. But I understand why people like it.

[waxen dock]

why not everyone tera

[cerulean nacelle]

Because part of draft is knowing what mons you're going to bring and bringing niche pokemon or strategies to battle.

If every mon could terastalise it'd be a lot harder to prepare for.

[waxen dock]

in the draft i played everyone can tera

[cerulean nacelle]

Was this singles or doubles?

[waxen dock]

doubles ofc

[cerulean nacelle]

That's why.

[real prairie]

Check out BUBL for example, good fun to watch

[hallow quartz]

any good teams with kyurem?

[stone trellis]

Which one?

[cerulean nacelle]

I've been watching that. Mostly playmore and pokeaim

[stone trellis]

White has a niche, the other two are just shit.

Is Game Freak racist for this?

[cerulean nacelle]

Nah because white has less of a niche than black in singles.

It's just a matter of context which can make or break a mon. Plenty of mons that are fairly mediocre in doubles are good in singles.

[stone trellis]

Oh, you're playing singles?

But still, singles isn't what Game Freak balances the game around.

White is a special attacker too (proven to be Game Freak's favorite multiple times over).

[waxen dock]

tbh no one here really cares about singles

[stone trellis]

Am I allowed to say "Singles players get out, this is a VGC channel"?

[real prairie]

I think we can stop saying this every time someone mentions singles now 🤣

[cerulean nacelle]

I'm aware but it can still be important to look at everything. A lot of people say "this is shit" and its better to say "in this format it's shit" because context is a big factor.

Singles is more niche than doubles but like idc, I like the format lol

[waxen dock]

i mean this isnt a vgc chaneel but most of the people here play vgc not smogon

[stone trellis]

I don't bother myself enough to mention singles.

[cerulean nacelle]

That's fair. I'm a singles fan and I've lost interest in VGC. Just got bored.

[stone trellis]

Two sides of the same coin.

[cerulean nacelle]

Indeed

[waxen dock]

from when?

[stone trellis]

Apparently (Tera Fairy) Ice Rider's one of the few things who can live a neutral 196+ Atk Tera Fire FB from Lorb Korai off of natural bulk alone, which is funny as hell to me.

[waxen dock]

also vgc changes every few months smogon really didnt change in almost 2 years

since pecherunt and dlc

[stone trellis]

Zamazenta has manufactured bulk, take that +1 boost away and it dies to Tera Fire FB too, neutral or not.

[cerulean nacelle]

Things do still change. Pokemon get banned or go up and down tiers. There's more going on than what you'd realise.

Like gen 9 OU got sleep banned again thanks to darkrai.

[gentle crag]

diobrando8256 has given 1 Gen Rep to ido1500

[real prairie]

My tera ground one does okay too lol

[waxen dock]

yeah but these are mostly small changes

in vgc in reg meta change too

[stone trellis]

No shit, both are neutral.

Also, Tera Ground?!

I see the vision, but...

Why?

[cerulean nacelle]

But these changes for singles are still changes that impact the meta? Your point wasn't really valid here.

I know what you're on about because you're saying the meta changes more often and that's what you like. But wrong wording.

[real prairie]

Kyogre team with CIR, used it as a Miraidon wall to stop volt switches and take instant KO

Opening up playing field for Scarf Kyogre

[waxen dock]

in vgc there are both meta changes and format changes in smogon its just meta changes

[stone trellis]

Since Tera Electric Specs seems to have become a popular set nowadays, that's valid.

[cerulean nacelle]

But there are different formats you can play from UBERS with overpowered mons, legends and mythicals all the way down to PU and ZU with the lowest of the low.

Once again your point isn't as valid as what you think lol.

Plus singles has lots of variety too.

Almost any ability is a very fun format.

Or monotype

[polar canyon]

I wish they also made public funny rulesets for doubles

[stone trellis]

I could run it, but I'm really hesitant about being weak to Grass, Water and Ice at the same time.

Do I keep Tera Fire on Ice Rider?

[polar canyon]

What is

[stone trellis]

Ground.

Tera Ground Ice Rider.

Am I allowed to post my team on #rental_teams?

[real prairie]

as long as it follows the rules, sure

[real prairie]

whats the rest of the team?

[real prairie]

See with my team grass and water was covered by Tsareena with power whip and triple axel

[stone trellis]

Nothing.

[stone trellis]

What are the rules?

[gentle crag]

woodtofu (ID 250386799363489808)

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Command triggered by averagejack_yt. Message from · Aug 23, 2024, 7:21 AM

[real prairie]

Feel free to try mine lol https://pokepast.es/9f59baa336e6a4b9

[stone trellis]

Done.

[dapper crag]

Its missing

mirror coat

[stone trellis]

?

TWO GODFORSAKEN MISSES

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK

I MISSED HIGH HORSEPOWER TWICE

They disconnected.

https://tenor.com/view/crying-funny-black-man-gif-12405487584384624752

[real prairie]

Lol

https://tenor.com/view/jagyasini-singh-i-can-read-minds-mind-reading-mind-reader-telepathy-gif-1626231747678957902

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reghbo3-2448434003

[stone trellis]

Currently 11-2, about to break my PB.

Seems like cart ladder is way less prepared for the Coaching sauce.

Jesus Christ, a mono Fighting team?

[dapper crag]

Im considering dropping pelipper for the toad that sings

but idkk

[stone trellis]

What's the team?

[dapper crag]

https://pokepast.es/38cdc089cf252702

Im still experimenting with the evs tho

[polar canyon]

Just wondering what did you lose to

[polar canyon]

Dude what format is this for

Reg h team feat. Deoxys

[stone trellis]

Can't recall.

[polar canyon]

Recalling that could be one step towards fine tuning the team

[stone trellis]

It was some random shit on low ladder, the team wasn't even finished at that point.

Half of the guys were missing EVs or moves.

[dapper crag]

doubles ubers

[stone trellis]

My Reg J GXE compared to my Reg I one is crazy.

They're both shit, but 61.4% is way better than 52.8%.

[glacial cradle]

Darkrai is so annoying ... haha whats a good counter?

can't believe there is a 100% accurate sleep move that hits both opponents at once in double battles haha.

[dapper crag]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9doublesubers-2448489205

Dont try to perish trap me or my son ever again

[dapper crag]

what format is this

[glacial cradle]

Just SV Wifi Doubles Reg J

Does "Gravity" make "Dark Void" 100% accurate?

[dense latch]

83.3%

[glacial cradle]

oh nice haha well it feels like 100%

[dapper crag]

Dark void was nerfed...

Because of smeargle...

[glacial cradle]

Nice haha reading up on that now. sounds awful haha

[bold geode]

https://x.com/mentalsyndrome/status/1970893650071781622?t=EIQV137Z_4rujgrCq3aOVw&s=19

Bastiodon Mafia (@mentalsyndrome)

Ladder tour starting in about an hour!

X · Sep 24, 2025, 4:50 PM

[waxen dock]

What ladder tour?

[bold geode]

One happening in three minutes for Reg H

[waxen dock]

Oh

I joined last secind

Literly

I literlly joined last second i still cant belive it

[shadow wind]

https://x.com/VGCVictoryRoad/status/1970896012584669613

Victory Road VGC (@VGCVictoryRoad)

These are the usage stats of this past weekend's VR September Challenge #1! 📊

Gholdengo was present in over half the teams and even got a positive conversion rate into Phase 2. It surely did Make It Rain! 🏄🪙

📖 Teams, results and all info: https://t.co/LYQYDav6V2

X · Sep 24, 2025, 5:00 PM

Top 7 have this format in a chokehold

[dapper crag]

GHOLDENGO MY WALLET

[shadow wind]

Gholdengo on my wrist

Wait usually that’s ice types

Alolan ninetales on my wrist

[bold geode]

@waxen dock GGs you fuckin sniper

[waxen dock]

Me?

Oh

[dapper crag]

You

[bold geode]

Yeah LMAO

[waxen dock]

I joined last second

[dapper crag]

I forgot your team

[waxen dock]

And i won first battle

[bold geode]

Bro idk why I didn't tera my Chomp

[waxen dock]

I predicted everh move my opponent used

Im now number 1

[bold geode]

Yeah
Your opponent was me

[shadow wind]

Someone’s a little dense today…

[waxen dock]

Was your team arcnine and a9?

[shadow wind]

😭😭😭

[bold geode]

Yes LOL

[shadow wind]

Why would he be lying bro

[bold geode]

You sniped my ass LMAO

[waxen dock]

I just predicted him

[shadow wind]

Wait Monke you lost round 1?

Must be coincidence

[bold geode]

Yeah
Big coincidence

[waxen dock]

Well in the live tour i lost to him r1

[bold geode]

And now I'm finna hopefully boo bop an Annihilape

Fuck

[shadow wind]

Huh?

[waxen dock]

Yes

I lost to dollar monke r1 in smogon live tour

[stone trellis]

1. Electric Terrain
2. Fast (non-Prankster) Taunt
3. Wide Guard

[shadow wind]

Dang you guys played r1 twice? Kinda wild

[bold geode]

Nah
Different tour

[shadow wind]

Does Darkrai learn imprison?

[shadow wind]

Yeah there’s only 1 round 1 per tournament broski

Of course it’s 2 different tours

[waxen dock]

And mu opponent uses rock slide sneasler

And i got flinched

This format is just so weird

[stone trellis]

Nice.

[dapper crag]

I agree

[stone trellis]

Don't ask me.

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 491: Darkrai

Type

Dark

Abilities

Bad Dreams

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

70/90/90/135/90/125

Total

600

Sableye version 4.28.4

[stone trellis]

I never even bothered with Darkrai.

[shadow wind]

Wrong command 😔

[tiny karma]

Darkrai's moveset:

Physical Moves

Aerial Ace, Brick Break, Cut, Drain Punch, Facade, Feint Attack, Fling, Focus Punch, Foul Play, Frustration, Giga Impact, Headbutt, Knock Off, Lash Out, Last Resort, Natural Gift, Payback, Phantom Force, Poison Jab, Power-Up Punch, Pursuit, Quick Attack, Retaliate, Return, Rock Slide, Rock Smash, Rock Tomb, Secret Power, Shadow Claw, Strength, Sucker Punch, Thief, Throat Chop, X-Scissor

Special Moves

Blizzard, Charge Beam, Dark Pulse, Dream Eater, Focus Blast, Hex, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Ice Beam, Icy Wind, Incinerate, Mud-Slap, Night Shade, Ominous Wind, Psychic, Psyshock, Roar of Time, Round, Shadow Ball, Shock Wave, Sludge Bomb, Snarl, Snore, Spacial Rend, Swift, Tera Blast, Thunder, Thunderbolt

Status Moves

Calm Mind, Confide, Confuse Ray, Curse, Dark Void, Disable, Double Team, Embargo, Endure, Flash, Haze, Hypnosis, Nasty Plot, Nightmare, Protect, Psych Up, Rain Dance, Rest, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Snatch, Spite, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Swords Dance, Taunt, Thunder Wave, Torment, Toxic, Trick, Will-O-Wisp, Wonder Room

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Darkrai.

Sableye version 4.28.4

[stone trellis]

It's such CIR-Miraidon fodder that I could not care less.

[shadow wind]

Yeah pretty much

No imprison

Oh well, there goes a 4th method

[molten oasis]

It happened again?

[stone trellis]

Ice Rider and Coaching Valiant especially put both variants of that team on a T-shirt.

[molten oasis]

People keep seeing the sauce

[dapper crag]

I feel like I got a solid team

[thorn mortar]

Imagine if the riders didn’t exist at all

[stone trellis]

I wouldn't be here.

Me being Icy's biggest defender is what made me rejoin this server.

Finally back to the 1500s.
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regj-2448576549

[real prairie]

Eeveening folks

[stone trellis]

It's 10:30 PM...

[real prairie]

8.30pm for me

[stone trellis]

Oh yeah, you're from the UK.

[real prairie]

Unfortunately

[hallow quartz]

any teams w zekrom?

[stone trellis]

Doubt it.

[hallow quartz]

damn

what restricteds r good in this reg

[stone trellis]

Ice Rider Calyrex, Shadow Rider Calyrex, Groudon, Kyogre, Koraidon, Miraidon, Lunala, Zacian, Zamazenta and Terapagos.

[hallow quartz]

what teams are available with lunala right now?

[stone trellis]

A lot.

The one that won Worlds had Lunala and Koraidon in it.

[hallow quartz]

have any of them tried the lunala necrozma fusion or just base lunala?

[stone trellis]

Base Lunala is better.

Less awkward Speed tier, better defensive ability, more support in Wide Guard and just more overall flexibility with its sets.

[solid frigate]

Miraidon,Koraidon

That’s it

I think that’s it

[hallow quartz]

what about any teams with terapagos?

[rustic mountain]

pagos is mid

but nah anyteam thats halfway decent w/ pagos does not have lunala as its restricted partner

[hallow quartz]

no I mean teams with terapagos itself, not terapagos and lunala

I dont think I've ever seen that before actually

[molten oasis]

Pagos liked uh

CSR, and Miraidon

Wow it’s almost like every restricted liked one or both of those mons

[hallow quartz]

fr

what was the team that won worlds with lunala?

[rustic mountain]

https://pokepast.es/b48064e0a544ab29
https://pokepast.es/013e7e47e2936767
2 best performing pagos teams at worlds

[rustic mountain]

its almost as if they were the 2 best mons in the format i guess u could make a case for koriadon w/ its dominance at worlds but by and large id still but those guys at the top since they were the ones most consistently at the top

[molten oasis]

That’s a crazy thought

Would never have guessed

[rustic mountain]

[molten oasis]

Still, what a format

Koraidon had an insane comeback

[rustic mountain]

i played a bit of reg j the other day

[molten oasis]

It’s just reg I

[rustic mountain]

for me it is haha

[molten oasis]

I played and just found mostly double res lol

Nobody is running a mythical

[rustic mountain]

yea ull run into the occasional imma use keldeo/zacian or magearna/something else but yea

[molten oasis]

Keldeo zacian wtf

[rustic mountain]

i faced that

[molten oasis]

Discount shifu zacian

[rustic mountain]

literally

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 647: Keldeo

Types

Water/Fighting

Abilities

Justified

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

91/72/90/129/90/108

Total

580

Other Formes

Keldeo-Resolute

Sableye version 4.28.4

[molten oasis]

Eeeeehhhhh

[hallow quartz]

thanks, but wasnt there a worlds team that won with lunala and koraidon or something?

[gentle crag]

ind1.goo has given 1 Gen Rep to treeco.

[molten oasis]

That ability is not good

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 647: Keldeo-Resolute

Types

Water/Fighting

Abilities

Justified

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

91/72/90/129/90/108

Total

580

Base Species

Keldeo

Sableye version 4.28.4

[rustic mountain]

keldeos not good

[molten oasis]

Yeah wow that’s rough

[shadow wind]

The ability is themed, not to make it better

[molten oasis]

Ik but that’s still ass

[rustic mountain]

look it up on topcutexplorer or victory road, all the results/teams are posted there

[shadow wind]

Oh yeah 100%

[molten oasis]

Like just use shifu or kyogre

Don’t go in between with keldeo

[rustic mountain]

it wasnt even the shiny one u get for swsh dex reward in home

[molten oasis]

Damn

[rustic mountain]

like atleast then id get it

[shadow wind]

I’m still so mad about Victini

[rustic mountain]

ur victini

[molten oasis]

I’m gonna do a masterball run ingame so I can use my pogo shiny Zac and the shiny chien pao

[rustic mountain]

ahh yes the chien chien pao

[molten oasis]

Chien chien pao

[shadow wind]

I wish I was 😔

Chien pao pao

[molten oasis]

It just had 2 heads and SoR is now 50% reduction

Sword sword of ruin

[rustic mountain]

yo drago, silksong been good?

[molten oasis]

It’s so peak I love silksong

[rustic mountain]

i was seeing it all over my tl on release

[rustic mountain]

better then its predecessor?

[molten oasis]

See that’s hard

[rustic mountain]

different?

[molten oasis]

They both do things better and worse

[shadow wind]

Before silk song dlc I say HK is better

[rustic mountain]

gotcha

[molten oasis]

And yeah HK has the dlcs

[shadow wind]

But after dlc comes out it’s almost guaranteed to be silk song

[rustic mountain]

now im seeing like deltarune 10th year anniversary stuff everywhere

[molten oasis]

If both games are at base I do think silksong is better

[shadow wind]

I agree

[rustic mountain]

i gta try hk out at some point

[shadow wind]

All the HK DLCs added so much

[molten oasis]

Silksong did everything right imo, it’s a fantastic game

[molten oasis]

It’s a great game but it’s not easy

[rustic mountain]

seems to be a very beloved franchise

[thorn mortar]

I can’t post clips yet but I had the most satisfying kill on shadow rider last night I posted it last night to crickets but the horses are just absurd. There’s strong things (mega Rayquaza enjoyer here) then there’s just pure absurdity

[rustic mountain]

do i seem like some1 who cares about easy?

[molten oasis]

It’s the soulslike’s of metroidvanias

No you play vgc

[rustic mountain]

haha exactly

[molten oasis]

This games fucking hard lol

[shadow wind]

CSR Zama makes it questionable

[rustic mountain]

idm a challenge

[molten oasis]

But the mirrors

[thorn mortar]

I haven’t played it but I just keep seeing people post busty images of your pfp so I’m out of the loop or the joke

[shadow wind]

That’s just luck it’s not hard

[rustic mountain]

oh right lemme just shoot myself in the foot and play groudon

[molten oasis]

People think hornet is some thicc lady when she’s like, a bug

[shadow wind]

Perfect

[rustic mountain]

[shadow wind]

Literally a stick figure

[molten oasis]

Like hornet is a bug chill out

[molten oasis]

Funny part of the game

[shadow wind]

Drago have you 100%’d the game?

[molten oasis]

Yes

[thorn mortar]

Pheromosa had the same issue. Furries/Degenerates seem to have used toxic on the Pokémon community and it’s on like, the 50th turn of tic damage. It’s hard to even bring up Vaporeon in normal conversations.

But I hear the games very good I played the first one

[shadow wind]

Steel soul too?

[molten oasis]

No not yet

[shadow wind]

Yeah me neither

[molten oasis]

||lost lace|| kicked my ass

[shadow wind]

Dude I know

[molten oasis]

That fight was so hard

[shadow wind]

192 times harder than ||grandmother silk||

[molten oasis]

[shadow wind]

The true ending was cinema

[molten oasis]

||skarrsinger|| was rough too but that’s my second favorite fight behind ||first sinner||

[shadow wind]

Incredible takes

[thorn mortar]

How does it compare to the first one

[shadow wind]

It’s harder but just as fun

[molten oasis]

original is better but they’re equally as fun yeah

And it’s harder, play hollow knight first

[thorn mortar]

So it keeps all its flavor and playability but just ramps up the big boy difficulty

[shadow wind]

The crest system has a lot of potential

[molten oasis]

You’re literally intended to play that first THEN silksong

[molten oasis]

I like the crest system a lot

[shadow wind]

Hollow knight is the tutorial

[molten oasis]

Tools are hella fun too

[shadow wind]

I just wish they were balanced

[thorn mortar]

That’s a fun way to illustrate it

[molten oasis]

Yeah, ||architect|| is so broken

[shadow wind]

Oh yeah

I think optimal is ||wanderer||

[molten oasis]

I beat the game with ||reaper||

[shadow wind]

Yeah that one is fire

[thorn mortar]

All this speak of the game makes me want to make a bug team

[molten oasis]

Like I did the entire game with that one

[shadow wind]

If they all do the same damage per needle swing ||wanderers|| is peak

[molten oasis]

[shadow wind]

I think the damage numbers need tweaking for the crests

[molten oasis]

I wish ||beast|| had a better pogo

I would have probably used that

[shadow wind]

Yeah…

[thorn mortar]

Thanks for the motivation, Fam 🐛

[rustic mountain]

if only bug teams werent mostly terrible

[shadow wind]

I love the ability for that one so much

[molten oasis]

It’s crazy

[rustic mountain]

bug types *

[shadow wind]

The special healing is dope

[thorn mortar]

They hated him for speaking the truth.

[shadow wind]

Healing feels so op in the game

[molten oasis]

||witch|| was annoying as fuck to get

[shadow wind]

Screw that one

Did you know that it wasn’t completable late game before a patch came out

[rustic mountain]

reg h prolly ur best chance on making a mono bug team work atleast

[thorn mortar]

I got to masterball a while back with a Tera bug bulk up Grimmsnarl and Kleavor makes a pretty mean tailwind setter however

[molten oasis]

Wait really? I did it in late game tho

And I never updated the game after the first patch

[shadow wind]

||Act 3?||

[molten oasis]

Yes

[shadow wind]

Interesting

[thorn mortar]

Because leech life isn’t forgettable anymore

[rustic mountain]

haha nice, yea i wish kleavor was better wen its been allowed

[shadow wind]

The guys that sold you the stuff ||die||

Well they used to

[molten oasis]

||the guy you get it from are just dead and you pick it up off their bodies||

That’s what I did

[shadow wind]

Interesting

[rustic mountain]

scyther just won a regional that was pretty cool

[shadow wind]

When I went there nothing was in the room

[thorn mortar]

Even in modern regulation focus sash/tail wind setting gets pretty good value.

[molten oasis]

That team was smth else lmao

[rustic mountain]

volc is a staple in the meta atm

[shadow wind]

And it was in a patch note so who knows

I don’t doubt you though sounds about right for the game

[molten oasis]

That sucks

[rustic mountain]

yea pengy is a wild teambuilder

[molten oasis]

Yeah if it wasn’t I would have crashed out

[shadow wind]

No tools or healing was cooked

Can’t wait for that quest during steel soul

[molten oasis]

Would have had to do that final fight with no healing and tools like hell nah

[molten oasis]

[shadow wind]

Thank god I did that before trying to get it

[molten oasis]

Steel soul is gonna be so hard

[rustic mountain]

one piece influence is so vast

[molten oasis]

It’s kinda crazy

[shadow wind]

Is hasn’t been too bad

[thorn mortar]

I support any success the Scyther line gets

[molten oasis]

The endgame bosses are so tricky tho

[shadow wind]

Yknow what makes silk song harder than hollow knight?

No shaman stone 🥀

[molten oasis]

Although I wonder if the memory bosses are gonna be similar to dream bosses

[rustic mountain]

yea scyther is one of my favorite gen 1 mons

[molten oasis]

We have tools instead

[shadow wind]

They have to be, cause they don’t put you to a bench

[molten oasis]

Yeah

[thorn mortar]

Scythers my favorite bug and praying mantises are my favorite bugs and giving one a lizard head and blade arms just tickles me pink

[shadow wind]

Nothing compares to shaman stone fireball before mantis lords

[molten oasis]

Oh no you have to do ||groal|| without dying

[shadow wind]

||Savage beastfly||

[molten oasis]

||bilewater|| fucking sucks

[shadow wind]

Yes it sure does

[molten oasis]

[shadow wind]

That entire section of the map is dreadful

And I don’t even mind the double damage everywhere

[molten oasis]

Can I just chill in ||citadel|| thx

[shadow wind]

The areas are just harder in general

[shadow wind]

I haven’t gotten there in steel soul yet

[rustic mountain]

surely theres better phrasing that can be used here

[molten oasis]

Gotta go do ||last judge||

[shadow wind]

Mbad

[molten oasis]

Music for those bosses is so fire

[shadow wind]

Nah you can skip it

[molten oasis]

Oh that’s right you can, through ||the mist|| right?

[shadow wind]

Mhm

But I’m mostly just putting off act 2

[molten oasis]

Gotta fight ||phantom|| tho

[shadow wind]

Already did that !

[molten oasis]

Nice

[shadow wind]

Favourite skill by far

[rustic mountain]

hk is on switch

[molten oasis]

Both are

[shadow wind]

I have hk on both switch and pc

[molten oasis]

Runs well too

[rustic mountain]

not even expensive

[shadow wind]

Keyboard gaming

[molten oasis]

Yeah $40 for 100+ hours of gameplay

Remember guys pokemon is $100

[rustic mountain]

the dlc is $25?

[molten oasis]

No both games

[shadow wind]

DLC is free !!!

[molten oasis]

Are $40

[rustic mountain]

ohhhh

[molten oasis]

Total

[rustic mountain]

wow imagine that

devs caring about their consumer

[shadow wind]

It’s getting hard to

[molten oasis]

Because dlc makes bank usually

[shadow wind]

And they gave us it for free !

And the dlc was actually huge in hk

[molten oasis]

Silksongs will likely be free but I’d gladly pay for it anyway

[shadow wind]

Yeah originally was dlc

[rustic mountain]

how much would u pay

[shadow wind]

I can’t believe team cherry lied about the WiiU

[molten oasis]

$20-30

I’d buy the base games for $40-60

[shadow wind]

Silk song will NOT be on the WiiU like they promised 😔

[rustic mountain]

damn they really must b good haha

[shadow wind]

Honestly peak games

[molten oasis]

Silksong should be a GOTY contender

[rustic mountain]

y would that ever b a thing

[molten oasis]

It will lose to expedition 33 but that’s ok

[shadow wind]

Cause they announced it back in 2018 😭

[rustic mountain]

wiiu is a dead console haha

[shadow wind]

Even back then it was dead

[shadow wind]

Nah hades 2 clears(no it doesn’t)

[molten oasis]

It’s more dead now

[molten oasis]

I wish lol

[shadow wind]

Hades 2 is just Silk song for Hades 1

[molten oasis]

I’m excited for that but it has to top silksong death stranding and expedition 33

[shadow wind]

From what I’ve seen anyway

[hallow quartz]

any teams with necrozma?

[molten oasis]

Wouldn’t be surprised if Ghosts of Yotei is also peak

[shadow wind]

Yeah

[solid frigate]

not really,its outclassed by Lunala and both Lions are meh

[shadow wind]

This year has been the most insane year for games recently

[rustic mountain]

r the names for the games just arbitrary or do they actually define what the game entails? i.e hollowknight and silksong respectively

[shadow wind]

Well it’s Hollow Knight: SilkSong

[rustic mountain]

whats this new 1 called?

i thought the sequel was silksong

[shadow wind]

That is the new one

[rustic mountain]

ohhhhhhhh

[molten oasis]

Silksong is the sequel the first game is hollow knight

[shadow wind]

Hollow knight has meaning but silk song not so much

[molten oasis]

Silksong is a suffix we just chose to all call it silksong

[rustic mountain]

got it

[shadow wind]

And we can’t even call it SS

Have a SSSS file(Silk Song Steel Soul)

Tragic how that turned out

[molten oasis]

Lmfao

[real prairie]

I must be off my rocker today, This team has been brilliant for 3 days, having only 5 losses then i play today and lose 10 games.

[shadow wind]

I like the charm system more in HK though

[molten oasis]

It happens

[real prairie]

fighting the urge to change it again

[shadow wind]

The tools are cool but not as flexible in my opinion

[molten oasis]

Take a break

I do the same thing it’s annoying

[molten oasis]

Same, but both are great

[shadow wind]

Oh for sure

[thorn mortar]

We’ve all been there

[real prairie]

Yeah i just dunno what to do with myself otherwise haha, Mrs is away for 4 days and kids are in bed so im stuck doing F'all with all the anime i watch finished for the year

[thorn mortar]

YouTube is a good babysitter when I don’t have responsibilities to take care of.

This led to me completing my home dex on two accounts and still working on my living shiny dex

Just don’t let it second guess your teams strengths if you have it dialed in

[craggy dagger]

wym

[real prairie]

oh and caught up with all my subs on YT lol

[molten oasis]

Real

[shadow wind]

Well there’s a Hollow Knight but there’s no silk song

Not really anyway

[molten oasis]

Wdym hornet is the silk song

[thorn mortar]

Expand your horizons. Add some dlc into your algorithm:3

[shadow wind]

Too true 😔

[craggy dagger]

.-.
||we’re forgetting the needolin and the melodies of the three in the citadel 😭||

[thorn mortar]

Or go play go 🤷‍♂️

[craggy dagger]

weaversong

[shadow wind]

Yeah but it’s never called a silk song

While there is literally a Hollow Knight

[real prairie]

I love how you all gave up on the spoiler tags

[craggy dagger]

i mean
hollow knight
is
also kinda redundant cuz

[craggy dagger]

AAA SORRYYY

[thorn mortar]

It’s in the flow of a lot of conversation folks may not retain the spoilers

[real prairie]

dont apologise

[molten oasis]

Literally lmao

[craggy dagger]

the knight wasn’t really hollow to begin with

[shadow wind]

This is true

Very full I’d say

[craggy dagger]

the vessel was
but not the hollow knight 😭

[real prairie]

Im sure this isn't what Tofu meant, but it applies

[shadow wind]

Eh close enough

I was just constantly waiting for an the game to say “silk song”

And I was disappointed

[real prairie]

Can see you recreating that Family guy meme irl

[shadow wind]

Drago did you pick up ||the secondary quill||?

[craggy dagger]

||there’s a third quill too||

[real prairie]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8mYLi3PGOc

[shadow wind]

THERE IS???

[craggy dagger]

yeah

[shadow wind]

Yo where, I’ve been on the look out

Wait, I think I know

[thorn mortar]

@real prairie your profile says you are a content creator.

Make a video about how you don’t know what to do with your free time.

[shadow wind]

||Pin person?||

[craggy dagger]

||it’s locked to the same boss tho||

[molten oasis]

Wait huh

[shadow wind]

Ohhhhhh

[craggy dagger]

wait what

[real prairie]

I do need to make more content

[shadow wind]

Is it purple?

[molten oasis]

There’s three???

[craggy dagger]

||you’re talking about the red quill right||

[shadow wind]

I was yes

[real prairie]

Maybe i start my Ludicolo only Emerald playthrough lol

[craggy dagger]

[thorn mortar]

What type of stuff do you make?

[real prairie]

but fuck me im too tired to pretend to be alive

[shadow wind]

Ah ok I get it then

Man you have to wait till ||act 3||

[shadow wind]

That’s insane

[bold geode]

You

[craggy dagger]

||but that means you gotta get through the game without updating your map until that point which is act 3 ||

[thorn mortar]

My friend challenged me to play through scarlet with just a Fortress

It’s not the battles I’m worried about it’s the 10 hour cutscenes I fret over

[molten oasis]

||thats hell||

[shadow wind]

Anything for a perfect steel soul file

[craggy dagger]

hi yes me

[bold geode]

Hai silly

[real prairie]

the only pokemon game where you turn off the cutscene animations and it just goes "Huh, did you change a setting? not that we could see"

[shadow wind]

Guess I got a lot of silk songing to do

[molten oasis]

Then you die to a platformint section and have to start again

[thorn mortar]

I made a spare profile that had leftover online time to get another set of ruinous shinies and I was playing a game of league and made it all the way to the enemy base inhibitor before I got to even use the poke portal

[shadow wind]

That’s the hollow knight experience

[molten oasis]

Can’t wait for a real path of pain

[shadow wind]

Yeah me too

[craggy dagger]

i mean
there kinda is
one

[molten oasis]

I’ve done path of pain twice, it sucks

[shadow wind]

Platforming is already so fun

[real prairie]

Yeah, Ive considered replaying to get things like a zero speed BMU but honestly, who can be fucking arsed

[molten oasis]

It’s not THAT hard

[craggy dagger]

in silksong at least

[thorn mortar]

A man with stalwart determination that’s who

[shadow wind]

They could make it way way harder

[craggy dagger]

it’s
it
it requires a very
specific ending 😭

[molten oasis]

?

[shadow wind]

Oh the ||lava room||?

[molten oasis]

||you’re talking about the one for the memory thing right?||

[real prairie]

Stalwart is mid, have more of a sturdy determination tbh

[craggy dagger]

||have you gone above pharloom to do the mr mushroom ending||

[shadow wind]

Oh that ending

[craggy dagger]

[thorn mortar]

I have strong jaw/moxie IRL so I get it

[shadow wind]

I still need to do that one actually

I went right to steel soul attempts

[molten oasis]

Oh I did that

[craggy dagger]

||the way up fucking sucks iirc there’s no platform for you to rest for a checkpoint||

[molten oasis]

Again idt it’s as hard as path of pain

But it’s definitely hard

[craggy dagger]

idk about it being hard
but it’s the games version of pop

[molten oasis]

True

[shadow wind]

I think platforming is more forgiving in silk song

[real prairie]

TBH probably more defeatest, im half way through my life and everything has turned to shit 🤣

[shadow wind]

More ways to stall by yourself

[molten oasis]

Although path of pain was post base game I believe

[molten oasis]

Harpoon is kinda huge

And the glide

[craggy dagger]

it’s not that it’s forgiving
but i think it’s rather we have a lot more movement options

[shadow wind]

They make dash useless

[shadow wind]

Good take

[molten oasis]

[craggy dagger]

like
i would be in so much pain if i had to do that platforming without the movement

[thorn mortar]

You have a wife and kids you are doing better than most and your pfp is a Mexican dancy duck.

You are doing alright. I’m just very adamant about things and eccentric

[molten oasis]

That would be horrendous

[craggy dagger]

||speaking of, someone did the complete mount fay without clawline/harpoon in act 1||

[shadow wind]

The hunters march rage clips are soooo funny

[shadow wind]

Gnarly

[craggy dagger]

oh
hunters march sucks
but like i can deal with it

[real prairie]

I envy you young people and your challenging game, I had to drop Exhibition 33 because i couldn't beat the introduction to parrying

[craggy dagger]

||bilewater and sinners road however…||

[shadow wind]

The clips are so funny from it

[craggy dagger]

||those places can go to hell||

[shadow wind]

Those areas are just harder

Harder than any area in HK

[craggy dagger]

i
i hate the mechanic there
so much

[shadow wind]

Yeah

And the purity wreath sucks

[craggy dagger]

it does lmao

[shadow wind]

Why does it break

I’m already sacrificing a tool slot for it

[molten oasis]

Psycho

[shadow wind]

I wish fragile charms were in the game

[molten oasis]

Actually the worst

The enemies are so annoying too

[shadow wind]

Like the only way to increase damage is to play hitless 😭

[craggy dagger]

i know 😭

[craggy dagger]

||wanderers + flint + brew with longclaw||

[molten oasis]

They really went “no big damage without a serious consequence fuck you”

[shadow wind]

Does ||long claw|| increase damage?

[molten oasis]

No but that crest likes long claw

[craggy dagger]

yeah

[shadow wind]

||Barbed bracelet||

Screw that tool

[molten oasis]

Range on ||wanderer|| is kinda shit

[shadow wind]

True

I haven’t played silk song in like a week

I’m going to be so trash when I come back

[molten oasis]

||flint|| and ||the bots with poison|| were my favorite

[shadow wind]

I LOVE the ||poison and electric|| tools

[real prairie]

I am actually loving that a singles player comes in here and gets roasted but competitive silk song is fine 🤣 thats not sarcasm genuinely enjoying this haha

[molten oasis]

They’re so fun

[shadow wind]

More people know about silk song than singles 😭

[molten oasis]

This is general chat 2 lol

[real prairie]

I know im joshing

[molten oasis]

lol

[craggy dagger]

i like it

[molten oasis]

I didnt use it I thought the damage she deals was fine

[shadow wind]

4 damage from one hit 💀

[molten oasis]

And I had plenty of patience

[thorn mortar]

As long as you don’t start Kevining, Samming or Arthasing all will be well

[craggy dagger]

||barb + beast + brew + storm + claw mirrors on vesticrest||

[shadow wind]

I beat the game with needle 0 cause I was dumb and didn’t explore

[craggy dagger]

||synergizes really really well with beast cuz you can recover 4 masks with beast||

[shadow wind]

That sound so fire

[molten oasis]

||act 2?||

[craggy dagger]

it does so much damage

but if you can’t pogo with it properly you’re fucked

[molten oasis]

Yes that pogo is ass

[shadow wind]

I wish 😔

[craggy dagger]

||and it’s the hardest pogo ever||

[shadow wind]

It’s really cool once you learn though

[molten oasis]

YOU BEAT ||LOST LACE|| WITH BASE NEEDLE