LMAO
#competitive_discussion
solid frigate
lofty tartan
0 Atk Incineroar U-turn vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Malamar: 104-124 (53.8 - 64.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
dense latch
wow that's bad
forest arrow
still a 2ko
foggy lodge
Does it survive a struggle bug from Volc
glacial tartan
okay, well you don't always have to put the most popular PKMN on the team!!!!
forest arrow
LMAO
lofty tartan
Yeah the bulk didn't do anything
foggy lodge
You don't
solid frigate
252 Atk Choice Band Dragapult U-turn vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Malamar: 252-300 (130.5 - 155.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Free ahhhh pivot
lofty tartan
okay, well you don't always have to put the most popular PKMN on the team!!!!
Totally agree.
foggy lodge
But there is a difference between using uncommon pokemon and using shitmons
dense latch
but malamar isn't what you put instead
dense latch
uncommon mons need to at least fill a niche that's useful into the meta
solid frigate
Rillaboom is not popular yet its still on 1/4 of everyone's team at worst
dense latch
what's malamar's niche
forest arrow
Just giving friendly advice, youre more than welcome to run favorites
solid frigate
what's malamar's niche
nothing
foggy lodge
Incin counter?
lofty tartan
Yeah damage numbers are just numbers - data and nothing else.
foggy lodge
Idt superpower at +1 even KOs
dense latch
what's malamar's niche
your opponent says "oh look a malamar" then watches as it dies turn 1
cyan smelt
Lurantis does a better job with contrary superpower
solid frigate
uncommon mons need to at least fill a niche that's useful into the meta
me trying to do Greninja+CIR:
lofty tartan
Lurantis is lowkey 🔥
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.2
dense latch
at least lurantis has a cool design
lofty tartan
But you really gotta build around it to make it do more than nothing
solid frigate
its lowkey gas
dense latch
i used it back in swsh series 10 it was pretty fun
solid frigate
Lurantis is one of my raid mons <:milk_shrug:1258133055147606176>
oh yeah remember when we use lurantis to fuck over one of the starters raids
foggy lodge
I still have to do chien poo raids
glacial tartan
is it true that ampharos is OP?
lofty tartan
No
foggy lodge
No
dense latch
who told you that
glacial tartan
just a Rocket rumor...
solid frigate
This Ampharos' whole limitless page
his resume:
2014
lofty tartan
Oh hey Ampharos.
dense latch
unless Mega Ampharos has thunderclap then i think it has potential
if only there were some other relatively slow bulky electric dragon type
lofty tartan
His resume: unemployed
foggy lodge
Me
solid frigate
His resume: unemployed
forest arrow
or a slow bulky electric fighting type
lofty tartan
Brian HANDS
dense latch
damn ampharos gets outbulked outstrengthed and outnecked
solid frigate
or a slow bulky electric fighting type
brian hands
foggy lodge
damn ampharos gets outbulked outstrengthed and outnecked
Raging Goat
solid frigate
damn ampharos gets outbulked outstrengthed and outnecked
man we are doing outnecked moment
glacial tartan
I was raised on the rumor that there is power in the pokemon, and that you have train extremely hard to bring it out
lofty tartan
Raging Goat
foggy lodge
I was raised on the rumor that there is power in the pokemon, and that you have ...
I mean
Yeah? But no
dense latch
yes but no
lofty tartan
I was raised on the rumor that there is power in the pokemon, and that you have ...
Oh you mean Karen? Yeah, no, she was wrong 
solid frigate
I was raised on the rumor that there is power in the pokemon, and that you have ...
who still blindly trust Karen's words
foggy lodge
Unless you mean EVs
lofty tartan
Like when we were all in Gen 1 we thought Onix was really strong and really he's garbage. The anime hyped him up too hard.
dense latch
Unless you mean EVs
that'd be a pretty cool way to refer to EVs
lofty tartan
Like he's Brock's ace twice
dense latch
rather than chucking supplements on them
foggy lodge
PV
solid frigate
Like when we were all in Gen 1 we thought Onix was really strong and really he's...
The Anime is a bad influence on Comp pokemon lmao
glacial tartan
again, Masuda told me and i think i confrimed it once...
foggy lodge
Power Values
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.2
lofty tartan
My grandad is Mister Nintendo.
dense latch
they really just made onix and better onix in the same gen
glacial tartan
My grandad is Mister Nintendo.
well, my extended dad is masuda, and we don't see eye to eye...
solid frigate
honestly fuck ash ketchum plot armor
lofty tartan
dense latch
well, my extended dad is masuda, and we don't see eye to eye...
can you tell your dad to dexit urshifu please
and to send me some money i have paypal
foggy lodge
can you tell your dad to let me play miraidon in reg H
cyan smelt
i thought u meant archaludon
foggy lodge
Close enough
lofty tartan
Gets rekt by Ursa
glacial tartan
😋 well, i'm pretty sure he'd kill me, if he heard i exposed everything on this server...
lofty tartan
Cool. Anyway. O.o
solid frigate
Gets rekt by Ursa
yeah i think we can bump up Regular Ursaluna's placement after the massacre in reg I
glacial tartan
search my history in genral chat and here
foggy lodge
no thanks we are fine
lofty tartan
I'll pass.
cyan smelt
boy i sure love pokemon conspiracy theories
lofty tartan
yeah i think we can bump up Regular Ursaluna's placement after the massacre in r...
Reg Ursa is basically a 3rd Restricted.
foggy lodge
you can move on and let the adults talk
solid frigate
Reg Ursa is basically a 3rd Restricted.
honestly we can add a Pseudo Restricted list for them
Bolt is also one of them
solid frigate
you can move on and let the adults talk
maxi you are the last person to say the second point when mika is right there
cyan smelt
is landorus also a pseudo restricted
foggy lodge
I'm a big boy shut up
solid frigate
I'm a big boy shut up
you are younger than me lmao
foggy lodge
I'm a strong tough and terrific big boy!!!
solid frigate
is landorus also a pseudo restricted
for gen 5-6 maybe
rn i don't think its that strong compare to bolt
dense latch
I'm a strong tough and terrific big boy!!!
me
lofty tartan
https://tenor.com/view/sure-grandpa-let%27s-get-you-to-bed-gif-34408622592997667...
Man I'm not that old lmao
If I was, I'd be screwed at my job
dense latch
ik ik the gif was just too tempting
solid frigate
YOU WOUND ME
lol
dense latch
i think we saw them the first time there's just a bit too much to unpack in 4 minutes
lofty tartan
That and being 10 O.o
dense latch
it's okay i dont mean to be harsh just letting u know
patent terrace
all good
dense latch
first things first perish trap doesn't work in reg i
patent terrace
yah, iguess
dense latch
way too much offense to make that work
the other teams are not horrible but likely need some set reworks
and a few mons replaced maybe
patent terrace
okay, what do you think could be replaced?
dense latch
im doing something rn i'll try and give u some feedback in a bit
patent terrace
thanks so much
cyan smelt
can i get some feedback for my team too? feel like i might need ursaluna but the farig is mainly there for support and to prevent fake out https://pokepast.es/11fe604f05bd6a7e
patent terrace
triple fakeout might be too much, espicially against other farig
dense latch
sneasler rilla incin gambit is okay i just dont think farig gliscor is the play for the last two
looks more like a dnite angle to me
cyan smelt
i just want gliscor for anti-sneasler
dense latch
you can do gholdengo over kingambit
considering 5/6 of your team is physical
you kinda get destroyed by rain
cyan smelt
yeah that might work considering gambit just gets destroyed by cc and body press a lot
glacial tartan
Is talonflame competitive?
dense latch
in reg h yea
lofty tartan
In Regulation H and some others, yes.
cyan smelt
i might need to rework my team then, idk what to do about peli arch
lofty tartan
Electabuzz
glacial tartan
Which attack stat should I raise, i keep getting low attack on it!
cyan smelt
replace farig with buzz?
lofty tartan
Talonflame is mostly support, somewhat of an attacker. You just do max physical attack. Don't use Special Talonflame
Brave Bird/Flare Blitz are the higher damage moves
cyan smelt
i'm kinda concerned about having no speed control if i replace farig
shadow wind
Choice specs hurricane in the rain !!!
lofty tartan
i'm kinda concerned about having no speed control if i replace farig
Buzz with Twave or Eweb. He is speed
dense latch
ebuzz dengo is great into rain
forest arrow
Buzz is cracked
lofty tartan
Buzz alone just weighs the Rain matchup more in your favor.
glacial tartan
Talonflame is mostly support, somewhat of an attacker. You just do max physical ...
And def?
lofty tartan
Eweb is my preferred spice. Breaks Sash.
cyan smelt
buzz helps redirect beat up junk too
forest arrow
Yeah good tool kit going for it
shadow wind
And then they switch in the bridge 🥀
dense latch
mika are you still uisng bax?
lofty tartan
Pelipper hates this one trick
forest arrow
Vital Spirit to avoid sleep or Static to be annoying to physical attackers
lofty tartan
I love Static Buzz.
lofty tartan
That means it's just a speedy, flying, fragile rock!
Yeah, and?
shadow wind
Viral spirit is like 18x better on most teams
lofty tartan
Like what's your point? You're not training Talonflame to survive anything meaningful, he doesn't get a chance to stick around, sets Tailwind, maybe scares Rilla or picks up a KO on Sneasler, leaves
glacial tartan
Yeah, and?
I see competitive Pokemon is going to take some drugs...
lofty tartan
Once Gale Wings is broken then he's pretty cooked.
glacial tartan
They overhyped every Pokemon i said about
lofty tartan
I see competitive Pokemon is going to take some drugs...
No. It just takes understanding and observation. Experience helps, but comes with time. 
glacial tartan
And I'm training them!!
lofty tartan
Train whatever you want. Resources are infinite.
lofty tartan
mika are you still uisng bax?
I'm not sure. On the one hand, I love Bax, on another, this is my last real chance to run my homeslice Dragonite in a high-competitive scene.
dense latch
I'm not sure. On the one hand, I love Bax, on another, this is my last real chan...
i just dropped bax for dnite lol
lofty tartan
My wife's first shiny in SV was a Dratini that she gave to me.
Full odds accidental shiny
dense latch
it's been great
glacial tartan
Are rhyperior and kangaskhan op?
lofty tartan
Are rhyperior and kangaskhan op?
Kanga isn't in Gen 9. Rhyperior is not especially "good". He's somewhat niche, at best.
dense latch
Full odds accidental shiny
i'm pretty sure dratini was my first sv shiny and i got it the exact same way lmao
i love shiny dragonite
lofty tartan
i'm pretty sure dratini was my first sv shiny and i got it the exact same way lm...
It's a sentimental thing and it's Dragonite, so it may just happen. I'm just unsure what to run.
I know there's like a 90% chance I play something with Buzz/Sneasler.
dense latch
https://pokepast.es/c80bb5c934e43eca i've been using this
lofty tartan
Oh yeah I actually like that. How's Harc been?
glacial tartan
I could see topsy turvey helping rhyperior...
shadow wind
My goat using sneasler 🥀
dense latch
it's mostly justin tang's toronto team
dense latch
Oh yeah I actually like that. How's Harc been?
haven't tested it out that much, just swapped it out for volc
it's sounds fun in theory
lofty tartan
I could see topsy turvey helping rhyperior...
You need to set up for Topsy Turvy to even be anything, and even then, you're investing so much time and effort into just getting KO'd in the process. It's not worth it.
dense latch
My goat using sneasler 🥀
lofty tartan
it's sounds fun in theory
I mean Volc here looks really solid.
dense latch
i just like coaching
dense latch
I mean Volc here looks really solid.
i didnt bring it all too much and when i did it felt eh
shadow wind
I really need to work on my team
dense latch
Grassy Seed Gholdengo is 🔥
it's so fun
glacial tartan
Is chandelure op?
shadow wind
It has some really awful MUs
lofty tartan
No, Chandelure is not OP
dense latch
Is chandelure op?
dude who is feeding you this information
lofty tartan
It seems like a mix of anime and Smogon.
shadow wind
I mean I look at those stats and I’d be thinking the same thing
glacial tartan
No, Chandelure is not OP
What about the hated Decidueye?
dense latch
im not sure what speed to run on my gholdengo tho
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.2
lofty tartan
Oh yeah Chandelure has dummy Sp Atk but everything it's scared of is faster and hits about as hard anyway
forest arrow
H decidueye was used but got replaced by flamigo so no
dense latch
honestly thought it was faster for whatever reason
shadow wind
It just has really good options too
dense latch
ig everyone just runs scarf on it tbf
shadow wind
Good stabs and good coverage
lofty tartan
Like Chandelure is niche, but not OP
shadow wind
It will never be the best in slot
lofty tartan
No, never.
glacial tartan
H decidueye was used but got replaced by flamigo so no
Alolan?
dense latch
basically doesn't exist
forest arrow
It’s worse
lofty tartan
I like H-Decidueye in Reg H for some reasons, but Alolan Decidueye is nothing.
H-Decidueye just gets rudely outclassed by a ton though
I did run into one at Toronto. It died.
shadow wind
Triple arrows and scrappy is the only reason it’s usable
glacial tartan
Raised a good one in gen 7. Made top news on Pokemon site!!!
shadow wind
Triple arrows is literally one of the most broken moves ever made
lofty tartan
Raised a good one in gen 7. Made top news on Pokemon site!!!
This I doubt.
dense latch
dies to mild winds
lofty tartan
No one is reporting on how things get trained in playthroughs.
shadow wind
lofty tartan
Anyone can feed EVs into a pokemon. It's not special.
shadow wind
I’m trying to think how I make this team better into Incin
forest arrow
https://pokepast.es/6ae86009665a541c
Sand Psyspam nice
shadow wind
Sand Psyspam nice
Thank you I’m very creative
lofty tartan
Sand Psyspam nice
I keep friggen going back to that Exca team
dense latch
player reportedly trains pokemon, crowds become ecstatic
forest arrow
It looks fun, I might wanna give it a shot
lofty tartan
I’m trying to think how I make this team better into Incin
You know, I've been looking at a different Sand Psyspam.
Lemme grab the Paste
shadow wind
I made that team in Reg H1 one and it was solid then but it’s falling very flat now
shadow wind
Not very flat, that’s misleading
dense latch
https://pokepast.es/6ae86009665a541c
has power trip been any good for you
i could see tailwind
forest arrow
https://pokepast.es/4020429d61257e51
This looks super solid
cyan smelt
Oh yeah idk what to do into ttar excadrill
lofty tartan
I'd hate to see someone trigger Dondozo in front of a Primarina with a Mirror Herb.
That thing would pop off.
shadow wind
I mean it’s unaware anyway
dense latch
yea
lofty tartan
IF it's Unaware, you Haze
shadow wind
Then you get rid of your double omni boost
lofty tartan
That's fine - Dozo is stranded.
dense latch
i thought it was for dengo
red willow
Is Primarina dece in H?
lofty tartan
It's always your advantage
dense latch
you copy the nasty plots
dense latch
Is Primarina dece in H?
yea it's decent
glacial tartan
Is togekiss op?
dense latch
nothing crazy but a solid water type
forest arrow
Probably one of the better water types to use in H
lofty tartan
you copy the nasty plots
This of course, but it covers for Dozo in every case too
shadow wind
https://pokepast.es/4020429d61257e51
Wow these teams are similar
dense latch
Is togekiss op?
yes every pokemon is OP you're welcome
red willow
Im gonna be real original
dull ibex
https://pokepast.es/c419685c3073151a stole this six and changed the set
shadow wind
4/6 mons with almost the same sets
lofty tartan
Yeah best water types in H are def Basculegion, Primarina, Water Tauros...... I think that's it?
Like Palafin is somewhere in top six?
red willow
Incin Rilla Prima
cyan smelt
If I'm running incin sneasler rilla dengo gliscor buzz what should I lead into ttar excadrill
dense latch
Yeah best water types in H are def Basculegion, Primarina, Water Tauros...... I ...
solo dozo is pretty good
red willow
Maybe a sneasler
forest arrow
Can’t forget Pelipper
shadow wind
The best water type in Reg H is Gholdengo
cyan smelt
Sneasler gets destroyed by eq + tera blast flying
lofty tartan
Wow these teams are similar
For sure. I figured I'd share because they're so similar.
Might give you some ideas
shadow wind
Yeah
dense latch
pelipper i guess but it's not the typical water type you can slot into your fwg core
lofty tartan
I ran Sand Psyspam at Toronto too
shadow wind
I’m thinking literally just going Ttar Drill Ape and finding what beats that badly
lofty tartan
Not this team - a different one without Exca
forest arrow
Prim seems like a good candidate for your incin problem
shadow wind
So does ape !
forest arrow
True
lofty tartan
So does ape !
shadow wind
That guy beats anything
lofty tartan
This is what I ran at Toronto
shadow wind
Gale wings with sand seems…
Interesting…
cyan smelt
And gale wings with psyspam
lofty tartan
Ttar was there for things like opposing Psyspam and Weather
shadow wind
I really like Ttar drill into Indeedee Sneasler
lofty tartan
And gale wings with psyspam
Again, in the cases you'd take Indeedee with Talonflame, you're not always looking to Brave Bird. You're still getting priority TW
cyan smelt
Conner do you run into many opposing delphoxes
shadow wind
About to use specs Rotom wash with pump for Incin
shadow wind
Conner do you run into many opposing delphoxes
I don’t think I’ve seen a single one
lofty tartan
I had a total of zero cases where TTar or Indeedee ruined Talonflame being around.
cyan smelt
Don't use rotom wash, gets destroyed by archaludon
lofty tartan
You just play like you have more than rocks in your head.
MOST of my leads were Talon/BM or Buzz/BM
shadow wind
You just play like you have more than rocks in your head.
But I like leading Sand Stream + Sand Rush
A very Sandy guy
lofty tartan
If opponent didn't have a good answer to TW/Blood Moon or Hyper Voice, gg shake my hand
glacial tartan
I guess I really need to play more to find out, these competitive teams are really killing the Pokemon dream world!!!
cyan smelt
I wonder if bwahacough is still around
shadow wind
My hero
cyan smelt
Ttar lycanroc
lofty tartan
Lycanroc is just worse than Exca
shadow wind
Lycanroc is just worse than Exca
Endeavour is fire though
cyan smelt
Yeah ik but this guy was committed to it
lofty tartan
Ah I don't know the guy
shadow wind
Just a ladder legend
lofty tartan
I'm not in with the online crowd. I'm old, remember?
cyan smelt
Like 4legsdontcare always uses 4 legged pokemon
shadow wind
Was crazy in Reg H1 but haven’t seen him in a while
lofty tartan
I'm approaching "get off my lawn" ages.
shadow wind
I'm not in with the online crowd. I'm old, remember?
Nah don’t worry I doubt half the people in here know of him
glacial tartan
Soooooo much different responses around popular Pokemon, infinite crash test results...
shadow wind
He is to Ttar Lycanroc what I am to Groudon
lofty tartan
Nah don’t worry I doubt half the people in here know of him
Talonflame is one of the best answers to Sneasler, btw.
You just pressure with priority Dual Wingbeat
Sash is nothing
lofty tartan
It's true. And Ttar does help with Sneasler, there, but Sneasler pressures the hell out of Tyranitar unless you Tera 100% of the time
And the Tera is soooo telegraphed
shadow wind
Yeah…
glacial tartan
Then there's game freak changing stats!! What's with that?
shadow wind
And the Tera is *soooo* telegraphed
But it’s almost never bad
Show me the electric types this regulation
lofty tartan
I mean it really depends on the state of the match and what you're against.
shadow wind
Always true
lofty tartan
I didn't always want to Tera Ttar, but I was always pressured by Sneasler.
If you can snipe him without losing such a costly resource, do it.
And I liked to make them bank on the 100% tera and switch instead
lofty tartan
Indeedee is maximum in Reg H
Both of them are really good.
I just hated constant mirrors.
shadow wind
Yeah
lofty tartan
Like I'm super hesitant to run TTar again. He cost me day 2 last time
shadow wind
I wonder if Ape would work with Ttar Drill
lofty tartan
I don't want to be in that winning position and lose to a Rock Slide miss again. 😐
shadow wind
Ape explodes to Psyspam and Ttar drill can beat Psyspam fairly well
lofty tartan
Yeah I didn't run Exca last time
shadow wind
I don't want to be in that winning position and lose to a Rock Slide miss again....
That’ll be me when I use Groudon
lofty tartan
That's the only thing that teeters me toward it
Getting more value out of your Sand is pretty great. You're mostly running Buzz and something else out into Rain anyway
And you're turning it off with a TTar switch when everything is more manageable
See also: dead bird
shadow wind
Ok so the idea is
Ttar
Drill
Ape
Levitater
lofty tartan
Talonflame
shadow wind
I’m thinking Rotom Wash
lofty tartan
Corviknight is really strong, honestly
It's bulk, it's damage, it's longevity, it can be speed control
It messes with Incin
shadow wind
Corv isn’t bad
lofty tartan
Immune to Sand
shadow wind
But then I’d need a heck of a good Arch answer
lofty tartan
Sneasler is a good-ish answer
lofty tartan
I mean going Ttar/Exca, you're penning yourself into a tight design space from the get-go
Blood Moon.
Archa hates BM
shadow wind
This is true
lofty tartan
And he's fairly okay into Rain if you're already spooking Pelipper
shadow wind
But then that’s 3 fighting and water weaknesses
shadow wind
BM no speed control?
lofty tartan
Buzz is speed control
shadow wind
Other than eweb
lofty tartan
Eweb is an answer.
shadow wind
I’d have to run speed invest
lofty tartan
And if you're playing Corv you can afford TW at worst
red willow
Does glowking actually have a niche in reg h? I want to use chilly reception to mess with weather and get a ragenerator off lol
lofty tartan
I run fast bulky Buzz.
shadow wind
I mean speed invest on BM
shadow wind
Fair
lofty tartan
I don't think that trying to find a lot of bulk is worth it
You wanna scare the crap out of your opponent's lead with it
shadow wind
I’ll have to try it when I get off my house sitting job
Cause team building on mobile is worse than death
lofty tartan
Oh it's terrible.
I'm not saying I'm any authority on teambuilding, either. I'm just saying things that fit
shadow wind
Man team building is my kryptonite
lofty tartan
It's really tough.
shadow wind
Outside of restricted formats that is
Give me a restricted format and I’ll find ways
lofty tartan
Yeah but it's still tough. People who say teambuilding is easy aren't making really great teams anyway >.>
shadow wind
But I’m really bad at not having a centrepiece on every team
lofty tartan
Or they're like... insane at the game and competing at high levels.
shadow wind
I have a Groudon shaped hole in my team builder
lofty tartan
Yeah you do
shadow wind
Ttar fits it best he can
lofty tartan
He's trying.
shadow wind
But man rock slide does 4 damage
lofty tartan
I mean he's great into Sun teams
lofty tartan
Ttar/Exca is a nightmare for Sun
shadow wind
Ninetales(both forms), Pelipper and Torkoal
lofty tartan
Yeah, I ran into a Politoed at Toronto
shadow wind
He’s quite annoying I can’t lie
lofty tartan
That thing was out for blood but I punished an early mistake and made my opponent tilt for G2
shadow wind
Especially since I can’t use Rilla
lofty tartan
I called his Tera Steel Politoed
shadow wind
Epic
shadow wind
What other offensive grass types besides Rilla exist?
lofty tartan
Uhhh
shadow wind
None right
lofty tartan
Tsa...reena?
molten oasis
wow, y'all are cooking it seems
lofty tartan
Meowscarada!
red willow
Hisuan lilligant
shadow wind
Ehhh
lofty tartan
Meowscarada has use, I don't even care what you think, Conner.
shadow wind
There’s no substitute for Rilla 😔
lofty tartan
Protean Triple Axel goes boom
shadow wind
Meowscarada has use, I don't even care what you think, Conner.
I’m piling up fighting weaknesses
lofty tartan
Ahhhhhhhh
red willow
Free terrain gud
lofty tartan
Lilligant isn't good for Sand.
If you're planning on Indeedee you don't want Rilla.
shadow wind
Nah I probably wouldn’t run Indeedee
red willow
Oh I thought you just meant in general existence lol
shadow wind
But also I can’t run boom
lofty tartan
Rilla's okay in Sand.
shadow wind
EQ cannot be 50 BP
lofty tartan
Eh, it's not required.
shadow wind
But it is nice into the toed
lofty tartan
Politoed doesn't really dig Electabuzz either. You redirect the Weather Balls
You're Grass or Dragon Tera. Eat for days.
shadow wind
It’s a great mon but it isn’t offensive enough to threaten anything
You’re kinda selling me on the electabuzz idea
lofty tartan
I ran Electabuzz right into the Toed without remorse.
shadow wind
Ok so wait
lofty tartan
Electabuzz lead is not friendly for any Rain team
shadow wind
Ttar
Drill
Buzz
Corv
BM
lofty tartan
Like you Eweb and you can slow down Archa so BM outspeeds every time
You can just Eweb and Protect, scout the Tera
Blood Moon that thing
shadow wind
I wonder what as a 6th
lofty tartan
Pelipper doesn't often hang around to see the Eweb
Well now you need something to deal with fighting types
Buzz will take like.. maybe a few CCs but he's going down after
shadow wind
There’s always Tera fly Ttar
shadow wind
But Tera’ing every time is never a guarantee
shadow wind
But it’s close
rustic mountain
shadow wind
It’s the closest I’m gonna get
lofty tartan
Talonflame so good for fighting types xD
Uhhh. Primarina.
I dont subscribe to the Throat Spray Haze Prima though
shadow wind
Tree what other slow bulky weather setter that misses moves can I use
shadow wind
I dont subscribe to the Throat Spray Haze Prima though
No this is the worst set of all time
Lowkey I dig Prima here
shadow wind
I had Gastrodon on my old team for Dozo but Prima does it too
lofty tartan
Gastro is a thing but it doesn't deal with fighting guys as well
rustic mountain
https://tenor.com/view/ed-edd-n-eddy-cancelled-carlomalis-tiktok-ed-edd-n-eddy-been-cancelled-for-years-yo-gif-8417432622773784190
replace ed edn eddys been cancelled with conner not playing groudon
shadow wind
https://tenor.com/view/ed-edd-n-eddy-cancelled-carlomalis-tiktok-ed-edd-n-eddy-b...
I’m not allowed to play him right now
rustic mountain
y
shadow wind
Cause screw Reg J
lofty tartan
💯
rustic mountain
but u can run groudon
shadow wind
Groudon would actually be better now cause Magearna brain rot
rustic mountain
shadow wind
but u can run groudon
This does not outweigh me having to play against dark void 🥀
I know my limits to luck
rustic mountain
counterpoint: dark voids accuracy and darkrai sucks
lofty tartan
Tree is making good points.
jade dust
How do you claim shiny Wo Chein?
shadow wind
The counter counterpoint is that Pblades accuracy sucks and Groudon is ok at best
lofty tartan
Gravity Pblades and Dark Void
rustic mountain
honestly i dont see y ppl hate reg j cuz of mythicals, hate reg j cuz its basically reg i 2.0
solid frigate
honestly Calling Groudon ok at best in this gen is calling Zacian Great
molten oasis
lofty tartan
shadow wind
I wanna see Deoxys attack do well
molten oasis
honestly Calling Groudon ok at best in this gen is calling Zacian Great
bruh
shadow wind
Yeah Drago take that
lofty tartan
honestly i dont see y ppl hate reg j cuz of mythicals, hate reg j cuz its basica...
Guy spitting fax
shadow wind
In the “Using a bad restricted” competition I win
solid frigate
But yeah Reg J is just Arceus and Magerena joined the top 10 restricteds currently
so why bother
rustic mountain
nd those r both mid
shadow wind
We are not saying Magearna is better than Groudon 🥀
rustic mountain
id rather any of the top 10 over those 2
shadow wind
I’d rather Arceus over Ho oh
lofty tartan
You take that back
shadow wind
😔
solid frigate
ho-oh is 11th
lofty tartan
Agree with tree on both points.
Ho-Oh isn't top ten, but that's slander and heresy
shadow wind
My ho oh hate stems from missing so many sacred fires
solid frigate
skill issue
shadow wind
Groudon is safe from that cause I know Pblades is gonna miss
lofty tartan
If you're missing off a 5% chance then you're beyond help, I'm sorry man.
solid frigate
I dont think i miss a single sacred Fire when i play Entei lmao
lofty tartan
Missing that much*
solid frigate
If you're missing off a 5% chance then you're beyond help, I'm sorry man.
Calyrex Ice Rider players missing High Horsepower be like:
lofty tartan
It's 95% accuracy.
shadow wind
Why I stick to electro drift nowadays
jade dust
The good thing is caly shadow wasn’t dominant winning every tournament. Miraidon and Caly ice won most tournaments
In reg G, those 2 won 4 tourneys
Both in a tie for the most successful single restricted
lofty tartan
Yeah Calyrex-Shadow suffers from greatness. It's extremely good and always the boogeyman, so everyone comes prepared to beat it, and it has to work twice as hard at everything.
shadow wind
I hated that phase where people would run anti CIR stuff with levitate mons cause what does Groudon do to them
jade dust
Yeah most will bring a dark type to counter it. Either Incin, scarf Chi yu or sucker punch Chein pao
lofty tartan
That's how metas work
solid frigate
Shadow Rider is like
Ok so i have the massive kick me sign on my back
Not as large as Xerneas but still large enough to let people know i am here
dense latch
double eweb miss my beloathed
lofty tartan
Lmao
rustic mountain
i dont see what arceus or magerana offer as a restricted slot that gives u benefit over an actual decent-good restricted. they dont synergize w/ anything really and outside good bst and typing they arent exactly great self enablers even something like ho oh has shown an ability to be solid into certain duos even if its staying power was short lived
jade dust
Xerneas never won worlds either cuz was enemy number 1
shadow wind
double eweb miss my beloathed
Dude I remember I double missed icy wind and Pblades and just stopped playing for the day
solid frigate
im not suprised if Shadow Rider win Worlds again anyway
lofty tartan
It still has that shot
jade dust
im not suprised if Shadow Rider win Worlds again anyway
It hasn’t won before tho, would be first time
shadow wind
I’ll be surprised if Miraidon doesn’t win worlds
solid frigate
if Miraidon got overprepped then Shadow Rider can take the opportunity
solid frigate
It hasn’t won before tho, would be first time
we ignore 2022
rustic mountain
It hasn’t won before tho, would be first time
🤨
shadow wind
It hasn’t won before tho, would be first time
It won with Zacian in 2022
It beat out Groudon Zacian and it had a Gastro on the team
solid frigate
Zacian CSR won against Rinya sun lmao
shadow wind
That was a bad worlds for the Groudonation
shadow wind
Another silver medal 🥀
rustic mountain
That was a bad worlds for the Groudonation
the beginning of the end for groudon
jade dust
That also gave Thundurus his 3rd worlds
lofty tartan
His downfall is a marked point in history.
shadow wind
Groudon could’ve been the most decorated world champ if he only won 2022 and 2016
solid frigate
we all kinda expected that Groudon got cooked when see saw Groudon
shadow wind
But my goat was washed or something I don’t know I didn’t play those years
cyan smelt
Groudon will be good in gen 10 when koraidon dies to a clefairy draining kiss
solid frigate
Groudon could’ve been the most decorated world champ if he only won 2022 and 201...
Do we forget that Groudon and Kyogre won twice in worlds
rustic mountain
Groudon will be good in gen 10 when koraidon dies to a clefairy draining kiss
agreed, or atleast better then it is now
solid frigate
as early as the first restricted format in VGC history
lofty tartan
Oh I am pumped for new Megas
jade dust
Tera while a good mechanic, I don’t like it
shadow wind
Do we forget that Groudon and Kyogre won twice in worlds
Yeah and it missed out on 2 because it came second
rustic mountain
im ready for tera to be done
lofty tartan
Dragonite is gonna hang on to this crown of relevancy as long as he can
shadow wind
im ready for tera to be done
I was ready since I started competitive
rustic mountain
i hope
cyan smelt
Not looking forward to the return of xerneas and primal Groudon
solid frigate
Yeah and it missed out on 2 because it came second
good
Fuck that
jade dust
Tera types are a good mechanic but I don’t like it honestly
shadow wind
I’ve played some formats without Tera and holy it’s like heaven
shadow wind
good
Fuck that
That’s just hating for the sake of hating
rustic mountain
its a good mechanic as afar as gimmicks go, i just dont like having to always account for things changing type
jade dust
I’ve played some formats without Tera and holy it’s like heaven
I can imagine
No more 50/50 bullshit if they will tera or not
lofty tartan
I’ve played some formats without Tera and holy it’s like heaven
Oh you mean where you get rewarded for successfully pinning your opponent instead of having to play around their tera as well?
jade dust
Oh you mean where you get rewarded for successfully pinning your opponent instea...
Nah fuck tera
solid frigate
Not looking forward to the return of xerneas and primal Groudon
honestly
I think its less oppressive than before
Smeargle losses Dark Void,Both Dogs Exists against Xerneas,Miraidon, newer pokemon available that probably does better
shadow wind
I like clicking the super effective button and not seeing “X Mon is immune” and eating a super effective move they didn’t have before because of Tera blast
molten oasis
yeah so watch this
rustic mountain
Oh you mean where you get rewarded for successfully pinning your opponent instea...
u can still do that w/ tera its just the extra steps are annoying lol
lofty tartan
Nah fuck tera
I mean I don't hate Tera but I think you missed my point there
lofty tartan
u can still do that w/ tera its just the extra steps are annoying lol
Oh yeah for sure, it was just being jokey about it
rustic mountain
nah i feel u
shadow wind
I can’t wait for CSR to not be a fairy type
jade dust
I mean I don't hate Tera but I think you missed my point there
Yeah I know was sarcastic
shadow wind
Actually
solid frigate
or even better, lead incin!
Ah yes
Flying Dragon Incin
shadow wind
I’m more excited for CIR to not be a water type
jade dust
I can’t wait for CSR to not be a fairy type
Let it get 1 shot by assurance
cyan smelt
Primal Groudon + scarlet paradoxes to make it even more fun with xerneas fairy aura
lofty tartan
I'm not a Tera hater but even I can see why kids love Cinnamon Toast Crunch.
cyan smelt
Flutter + xerneas
lofty tartan
I'll be 100% fine when it's gone, but if it stays with Champs and we just add Mega in with it, then that's fine too, whatever.
I'm always just gonna operate with whatever I'm given
shadow wind
Flutter + xerneas
How about Chi yu + Yveltal
cyan smelt
Chi yu + primal Groudon
shadow wind
Chi yu + primal Groudon
Missing with maximum efficiency
rustic mountain
if we do get megas id be curious wat actually stays as a good mega from the original days (parental bond nerf, aerliate nerf etc) nd what new megas actually become meta relevant
lofty tartan
Parental Bond got nerfed?
molten oasis
i think lucario could be good
rustic mountain
cuz i was seeing some calcs, power creep is real on quite a few megas
solid frigate
Parental Bond got nerfed?
yep
lofty tartan
Serves it right.
shadow wind
Parental Bond got nerfed?
From 50 to 25
rustic mountain
i think power up punch did too
jade dust
Mega Gengar will fall off
lofty tartan
That's fine. A free 25% is pretty good.
shadow wind
Power up punch doesn’t exist
jade dust
Flutter Mane makes it a nightmare
shadow wind
They actually exploded that move
cyan smelt
Gravity csr + primal Groudon
lofty tartan
I'm still down to mess around with Mega Khanga but the new Megas are gonna be made for the current Gen anyway.
So I'm gonna have all eyes on them
Some of those could be bonkers.
shadow wind
I’m going to have to mess around with Groudon cause I’ve never done that before
rustic mountain
i think 2-3 old megas will b good w/ prolly 4-5 new megas being good
solid frigate
Honestly even we ignore Big 6
Restricted format with all gimmicks is not fun at all
I rather just play National Dex Format+Megas
cyan smelt
Mega ray is washed
rustic mountain
y
molten oasis
y
shadow wind
Pokémon Y 🥀
lofty tartan
I'm not gonna discuss it but there's a lot of things swimming around that says there's no such thing as Mega Incin.
cyan smelt
Because miraidon and flutter outspeed
solid frigate
I'm not gonna discuss it but there's a lot of things swimming around that says t...
incin might as well suck with Mega anyway
lofty tartan
Oh 100%
jade dust
Mega Incineroar
New ability, Bully
On switch, lowers the opponents Atk and Sp Atk by 2 stages
lofty tartan
🙄
solid frigate
lofty tartan
Lmao
shadow wind
Mega drill would give me life
solid frigate
Im not gonna speak about leaks cuz idk if its legal here but there’s a list about them
rustic mountain
Because miraidon and flutter outspeed
i feel like thats still a lot of stats + an insane ability, ppl will make it work
jade dust
Im not gonna speak about leaks cuz idk if its legal here but there’s a list abou...
Sadly Flygon isn’t there
shadow wind
Im not gonna speak about leaks cuz idk if its legal here but there’s a list abou...
Should dm me that 🙏
shadow wind
I hope Groudon Groudon pair wins
rustic mountain
i feel like tofu said discussing spoilers/leaks here was fine, could be misremembering tho
shadow wind
I just want a Groudon in top 8
molten oasis
yes its fine
shadow wind
Top 512 if we’re lucky
gentle crag
rustic mountain
so if its comp based/related its cool otherwise has to be in the spoiler channels
shadow wind
Well every Mon is related to competitive
lofty tartan
Mega Clef gonna be counting bodies for a living.
shadow wind
So I guess it’s chill
lofty tartan
rustic mountain
Well every Mon is related to competitive
shadow wind
I can’t wait for Mega Cofagrigus
lofty tartan
Togekiss was always a problem. Here comes Mega Clef, ruining your day.
rustic mountain
is it actually a confirmed leaked list of new megas? or just speculation
lofty tartan
I just hope Mega Dragonite sticks. Tera made it matter, now it gets justice.
shadow wind
is it actually a confirmed leaked list of new megas? or just speculation
I’ve seen literally nothing about anything
Wish I had the answer though
rustic mountain
same havent been looking but usually stuff will pop up
lofty tartan
is it actually a confirmed leaked list of new megas? or just speculation
I meaaaaaaaaaaan.
The leaks started with Dragonite, Dragonite got confirmed, with the same appearance as described, by reputable leakers, so it's safe to do some assuming
rustic mountain
gotcha
jade dust
The "leak" still is more like rummors. They were right about mega Dragonite but could be wrong about everything else
rustic mountain
mega crabominable
lofty tartan
That's the nature of leaks
solid frigate
shadow wind
He had a mega and they killed it
lofty tartan
That's why I didn't say "it's safe to claim they're true"
I said "it's safe to assume some things"
lofty tartan
I mean they've done less with more
shadow wind
mega crabominable
Mega Avalugg
jade dust
And make it a mega button
lofty tartan
Kanga is literally just "the little guy isn't in the pocket anymore"
rustic mountain
Mega Avalugg
nah it just got a hisuan form
haha
old mega designs were mostly lazy
foggy lodge
Mega Galarian Slowbro please
rustic mountain
some cool ones tho
jade dust
Also I fould funny that, some people was "why did slowbro get a mega if its a preevolution"
lofty tartan
old mega designs were mostly lazy
Yeah everyone acts like all of the old Megas are peak and some are undeniably lazy
jade dust
But Slowbro and Slowking are a branch evolution
solid frigate
Just bring back ash greninja
nah fuck that
rustic mountain
Yeah everyone acts like all of the old Megas are peak and some are undeniably la...
yea i think ppl are just nostalgic
shadow wind
nah it just got a hisuan form
You right you right
lofty tartan
100%
foggy lodge
Mega Mawile is cute but its only Mawile with a second mouth and pants
jade dust
nah fuck that
Why? its cooler than that new design
rustic mountain
i like mega gengar
lofty tartan
Mega Gengar is absolute liquid hot magma
rustic mountain
it looks like a hybrid of gengar and haunter while still feeling like its own thing
jade dust
Yes I love the design
foggy lodge
Gotta say that mega tytar is ugly af
jade dust
One of the coolest megas
foggy lodge
Feels so overdesigned
rustic mountain
mega ttar is like lets add more spikes and make it look angrier surely ppl will love that
lofty tartan
IF Flutter Mane is around
shadow wind
mega ttar is like lets add more spikes and make it look angrier surely ppl will ...
And they weren’t wrong
solid frigate
Why? its cooler than that new design
Ash Gren its own thing
+i rather have a universal form for Gren than an exclusive form that got retconned
rustic mountain
oh and why not make a face out of the stomach
lofty tartan
There's literally zero confirmation of Paradoxes not going the way of Ultra Beasts
rustic mountain
And they weren’t wrong
common conner L
shadow wind
Dude mega Ttar is fire
rustic mountain
nah
shadow wind
God forbid a guy like a pokemon design
rustic mountain
ttar is a great design, the mega is just weird
lofty tartan
How DARE you have an OPINION?
jade dust
Ash Gren its own thing
+i rather have a universal form for Gren than an exclusi...
Thats why I said, bring Ash Greninja back but rename it to mega greninja and make it a mega button
shadow wind
I think the Kaiju designs are peak and the mega just made it more that
lofty tartan
God forbid a guy like a pokemon design
shadow wind
Mega Ttar is literally one of my favourite megas
jade dust
I love Tyranitar but not the mega
dense latch
i mean sand stream is just like that
solid frigate
How DARE you have an OPINION?
foggy lodge
Mega Slowbro is cute
shadow wind
You would make the Mon horrible if you got rid of sand stream
dense latch
i like mega scizor
foggy lodge
I like it so much its so silly
lofty tartan
He's just geating eaten by the shell.
foggy lodge
Literally me
lofty tartan
It's
shadow wind
Why we all hating on the megas right now
jade dust
You would make the Mon horrible if you got rid of sand stream
But that means, why would you ever mega?
If nothing changes
dense latch
because stats
rustic mountain
I think the Kaiju designs are peak and the mega just made it more that
fair enough, i just find it to be too much overdesign
shadow wind
But that means, why would you ever mega?
So it has better stats?
jade dust
Just more stats
rustic mountain
its not as bad as mega garchomp tho
lofty tartan
So it has better stats?
This is the answer.
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.2
molten oasis
what i miss
lofty tartan
Holy bulk
jade dust
Yeah but that doesnt realy justify it imo
solid frigate
ttars stats after mega is fucking impressive-
lofty tartan
AND 164 attack?
foggy lodge
Why would you want your weather setter to lose its ability to set weathers
lofty tartan
Lol
solid frigate
lol
lofty tartan
I'd Mega Tyranitar in a match for sure.
shadow wind
They should’ve given it Hadron engine but sand stream version
lofty tartan
I ran a fast Tyranitar at Toronto.
shadow wind
Trust me it wouldn’t be broken
lofty tartan
Tailwind matters. Team composition matters.
shadow wind
He also gets ddance
jade dust
71 speed is in a weird spot where its slower than most things but not slow enough to be used in trick room
rustic mountain
i feel like theres good reason it didnt really do anything in the mega formats tho
lofty tartan
That's fine. He's got the bulk to survive hits and the offense to do damage in return.
foggy lodge
71 speed is in a weird spot where its slower than most things but not slow enoug...
If only there were certain styles of teams that could make this type of Pokémon work...
shadow wind
i feel like theres good reason it didnt really do anything in the mega formats t...
None of the megas used sand very well
lofty tartan
If only there were certain styles of teams that could make this type of Pokémon ...
If only
foggy lodge
But ig there is no way for it to work
shadow wind
All the one that did were god awful
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.2
solid frigate
peak spread btw
shadow wind
Mega steelix 🥀
jade dust
That's fine. He's got the bulk to survive hits and the offense to do damage in ...
Still gets OHKO by Mach Punch tho
foggy lodge
Mega Kangaskhan was rough for it yeah
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.2
foggy lodge
But kangaskhan lost power up punch no?
shadow wind
This is peak bro
lofty tartan
Still gets OHKO by Mach Punch tho
Oh, are we doing things in a vacuum that support our arguments? Electabuzz Follow Me
shadow wind
I love the wall
lofty tartan
solid frigate
atp just play Miraidon Zamazenta
shadow wind
Now tree is going to tell me that Mega Aggron’s design is also bad
jade dust
If only there were certain styles of teams that could make this type of Pokémon ...
I mean tailroom sure, but even then, with 71 speed will still be slower than many things even in tailwind
shadow wind
“It just gets spikier”
jade dust
Unless you invest a lot in speed
rustic mountain
Now tree is going to tell me that Mega Aggron’s design is also bad
bingo
lofty tartan
“It just gets spikier”
This isn't wrong.
shadow wind
And that makes it cool
lofty tartan
Do you have an affinity for porcupines?
solid frigate
This isn't wrong.
forest arrow
Lmao
jade dust
Do you like Sonic the hedgehog?
rustic mountain
And that makes it cool
https://tenor.com/view/oh-brother-this-guy-stinks-this-guy-stinks-spongebob-gif-12941826619780731259
forest arrow
fair enough, i just find it to be too much overdesign
Agreed
lofty tartan
Conner getting absolutely raked out here.
shadow wind
The simplicity makes it awesome
shadow wind
Conner getting absolutely raked out here.
I know right
rustic mountain
its lazy tho
shadow wind
God forbid a guy like some strong looking mons
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.2
solid frigate
P E A K
foggy lodge
Mega Pidgeot is also one of the worst pokemon designed ever (competitively)
jade dust
Do you, like Sonic? He's spiky @shadow wind
lofty tartan
God forbid a guy like some strong looking mons
Again, how dare you (I'm kidding, not trying to offend you)
shadow wind
Sonic is cool
foggy lodge
How do you give it adaptabiliy with a mid typing and 0 good stab moves
rustic mountain
tbf idk wat u do to make pidgeot good
jade dust
Sonic is cool
Ok at least thats a good opinion
foggy lodge
Wait no no guard
dense latch
spikes 👍
solid frigate
im spamming Mega Mence with Hearth/Chi-Yu
foggy lodge
Idk why I said adaptability
lofty tartan
tbf idk wat u do to make pidgeot good
Make it not suck
foggy lodge
But it has hurricane only
shadow wind
No guard is like best case scenario for it
rustic mountain
Make it not suck
but how (reasonably)
shadow wind
Or sheer force
forest arrow
And hyper beam lol
jade dust
Mega Pidgeon cant make good use of its mega outside of Hurricane
lofty tartan
but how (reasonably)
Make it into something like Salamence, and then rename it into Mega Salamence
foggy lodge
Atleast the mega to give it a real coverage with stab
jade dust
Give it fisure
rustic mountain
Change the normal typing
i think itd still suck
jade dust
shadow wind
Tree, how do you find Groudon’s design
rustic mountain
love groudons design
shadow wind
Yet Mega Ttar is bad
rustic mountain
yes
jade dust
yes
forest arrow
Yes
lofty tartan
Normal typing is actually pretty good. Immune to ghost, only weak to fighting, offensively neutral into all but ghost, steel, rock
solid frigate
Normal typing is actually pretty good. Immune to ghost, only weak to fighting, ...
its really underrated
shadow wind
Now is that because you like Ttar’s original design?
lofty tartan
Normal/steel is too good of a possible type. I'm waiting for them to not be cowards, and make it happen.
forest arrow
Now is that because you like Ttar’s original design?
Maybeeeeee
shadow wind
Cause I love Mega Ttar
solid frigate
Normal/steel is too good of a possible type. I'm waiting for them to not be cow...
i love dying to Koraidon /j
lofty tartan
molten oasis
Normal/steel is too good of a possible type. I'm waiting for them to not be cow...
how so?
shadow wind
Quad weak to fighting 🥀
molten oasis
im curious as to why, the 4x fighting weakness sucks
shadow wind
It walls flutter mane 🔥
rustic mountain
Now is that because you like Ttar’s original design?
r u asking me?
shadow wind
r u asking me?
Yeah
foggy lodge
Only 3 weaknesses is crazy good
molten oasis
hm, fair
shadow wind
Only 3 weaknesses is crazy good
But they’re the most common weaknesses
foggy lodge
Tytar has fucking 8 and one is a X4 weakness
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.2
foggy lodge
And its still a goat
solid frigate
Tytar has fucking 8 and one is a X4 weakness
the stats are so fucking stacked
molten oasis
ok thats kinda really good but
you are weak to common types which kinda sucks
and your offensive coverage isnt great
foggy lodge
Fairy Steel is also weak to common types
lofty tartan
Your weaknesses are the same as any steel type.
forest arrow
Tytar has fucking 8 and one is a X4 weakness
☝️
shadow wind
Tree about to give me an essay on why Ttar is cooler than Mega Ttar 🥀
molten oasis
thats, yeah good point
lofty tartan
Like you can't make an argument based on weaknesses making something bad if you're weak to the same 3 things that steel mons are weak too and they somehow end up still being good
rustic mountain
https://sg.portal-pokemon.com/play/resources/pokedex/img/pm/47593c73cdf2c006688384c736711a526f5ea267.png
this is objectively a terrible design, so much going on for no reason. oh yea lets extend the spikes an exceedingly long amount and also add a face in the stomach cause sure why not. like the additions are subtractions
jade dust
dark and rock is terrible combo
shadow wind
https://sg.portal-pokemon.com/play/resources/pokedex/img/pm/47593c73cdf2c0066883...
It brings back some Pupitar vibes
jade dust
That typing is dogshit
foggy lodge
https://sg.portal-pokemon.com/play/resources/pokedex/img/pm/47593c73cdf2c0066883...
And its an overly edgy design ngl
molten oasis
mega ttar is too much
shadow wind
Y’all just don’t see the vision
lofty tartan
its stats and ability ofc
Yeah I'm not talking about "is a mon good" here, I'm just talking about having 10 weaknesses, two immunities, and 3 weaknesses is crazy good
foggy lodge
There is like no balance in the design
molten oasis
Yeah I'm not talking about "is a mon good" here, I'm just talking about having 1...
yeah fs
foggy lodge
Where are my eyes supposed to go
shadow wind
Mega Ttar is just a cool guy
molten oasis
its just not a type i've thought about personally
lofty tartan
It's a hypothetical thing at the get-go because it doesn't exist and there are no mons with that type so you can't weigh ability and stats
solid frigate
Ttar says fuck you and just do his own thing
foggy lodge
Like do they want to look at the spikes, his face, his stomach
shadow wind
They want you to look at everything and be amazed at how awesome he is
foggy lodge
But they failed
jade dust
Ok shup up now
molten oasis
lmao
dense latch
you gotta learn to use your eyes individually you look at the face with one and the body with the other
rustic mountain
so it has nothing to do with the original design being liked r not, its taking the original and then basically worsening it by overemphasizing all the features for no real benefit on what its adding to the design to begin with
molten oasis
cant wait for mega dragapult to have like, 10 holes on its horns for the dreepy
lofty tartan
Nah, Conner, have an opinion
shadow wind
Nah, Conner, have an opinion
Not allowed to
shadow wind
I’ll have my opinion quietly from now on
lofty tartan
What else has a spiky Mega?
jade dust
This guy doesn't tell you what to do <:arkeknine:669500432741040129>
Im not but all the messages in the chat have been about glazing an ugly and lazy design
lofty tartan
Im not but all the messages in the chat have been about glazing an ugly and lazy...
Who cares? Chill out and sit down
molten oasis
that
foggy lodge
Can't have fun anymore in comp chat
lofty tartan
Oh yeah Chomp is spiky
shadow wind
Nah Mega Chomp is where I cross the line
foggy lodge
Wrap it up guys
shadow wind
He’s literally mewing and I don’t mess with that
jade dust
Who cares? Chill out and sit down <:arkeknine:669500432741040129>
I wanna talk about more important things
molten oasis
lmao
shadow wind
Holy jawline
rustic mountain
if you have something and its liked, and you take things about it that are liked and make those things even more obvious, that doesnt always mean the thing itself is then going to be more well liked. a lot of times it actually means the opposite because it cheapens the art. something of a similar sentiment is like dialogue bascially spelling out certain aspects of the narrative or plot when most of the time if a show does a good enough job, its assumed by the viewer
foggy lodge
The spikes on Mega chomp's chest are cool
jade dust
Like how many dragon fairy types we should get
foggy lodge
Idk about the jaw and hands lol
lofty tartan
I wanna talk about more important things
I mean after that I'm pretty sure people aren't really concerned with how you view stuff if you're gonna be so negative and rude to people for having opinions
dense latch
I wanna talk about more important things
no one is stopping you from sharing said important things
lofty tartan
Just sayin'
shadow wind
if you have something and its liked, and you take things about it that are liked...
This is objectively a good take
I still like Mega Ttar cause I’m a simple guy
rustic mountain
yea thats fair
lofty tartan
I'm gonna switch sides and join Conner. Mega Ttar is great.
rustic mountain
just explaining myself
foggy lodge
Conner are you sure you don't like dinosaurs
foggy lodge
I see a trend
jade dust
I mean after that I'm pretty sure people aren't really concerned with how you vi...
Dont take it too seriously lmfao, but anyway
shadow wind
Conner are you sure you don't like dinosaurs
Dude I love dinosaurs
rustic mountain
I'm gonna switch sides and join Conner. Mega Ttar is great.
the thing that never happens in arguments/discussions
lofty tartan
the thing that never happens in arguments/discussions
I'm gonna hold fast on Mega Aggron being disappointing.
dense latch
the wall (: wish the wall had more spdef
rustic mountain
oh u were serious
jade dust
Mega Dragonite will probably be dragon fairy
foggy lodge
Now Mika will be sent to the dark void realm for having a different opinion
shadow wind
the thing that never happens in arguments/discussions
It’s always “Why are you playing Groudon?” And never “I’ll play Groudon with you” 😔
shadow wind
the wall (: wish the wall had more spdef
THE WALL
lofty tartan
Now Mika will be sent to the dark void realm for having a different opinion
I'm on my way to the Shadow Realm. I'll send you a postcard
jade dust
i think mega is a bit much too
At least loses the rock type
Rock is one of the worst dual types
If not the worst
rustic mountain
It’s always “Why are you playing Groudon?” And never “I’ll play Groudon with you...
if it was better id be playing it w/ u, groudons one of my favorite mons lol
foggy lodge
It’s always “Why are you playing Groudon?” And never “I’ll play Groudon with you...
We like winning
lofty tartan
I mean honestly Mega Aggron doesn't look too bad. He got fatter and I love chonk designs.
shadow wind
Also on the dinosaur comment, Anklyo on top
lofty tartan
Chonky Gundams are best Gundams. Chonky Pokes are great too.
I love Cetitan. So why not
foggy lodge
I like Walrein
dense latch
based
lofty tartan
Oh yeah I love Walrein and Wailord
molten oasis
I mean honestly Mega Aggron doesn't look too bad. He got fatter and I love chonk...
just not my thing
A9's one of my favorites due to its like, pretty design and i like zac cuz its cool
lofty tartan
just not my thing
I'll turn you to the dark side of chonky Gundams
molten oasis
never!
lofty tartan
