competitive_discussion

[foggy lodge]

Junxi Zhu used it at Portland

[molten oasis]

ah, ofc it’s CIR lol

[shadow wind]

Leech seed CIR is fake

[solid frigate]

I’m gonna make a meme after i done eating supper

[foggy lodge]

Its IMPRISON leech seed CIR actually

[shadow wind]

Don’t worry I know, I see every Groudon team that does decent

[molten oasis]

[shadow wind]

Yeah still leech seed CIR

[foggy lodge]

Its the best CIR set for that team tbh

Or for Groudon

[molten oasis]

I don’t like leech seed CIR, tried it it’s just not for me

It’s very slow and I play a faster paced game

[shadow wind]

It’s a phase that’s going to die

[foggy lodge]

I expect just CA over AV on that team for NAIC

But yeah use Jumpluff trust

[molten oasis]

Idk about that one

[shadow wind]

I refuse to use Jumpluff, that guy is fake

[molten oasis]

I’m bad with it but it’s not bad by a high level players standards

[foggy lodge]

And Groudon isn't?

[solid frigate]

honestly if i can i would run Bold Nature on Kyogre if Primals are back lmao

[shadow wind]

A guy can only have so many throw picks on one team

[molten oasis]

Damn lmao

[shadow wind]

You play whatever you want man but don’t expect me to play Jumpluff

[molten oasis]

I might mess with CSR Zac a little bit

Was talking to someone about it the only issue is incin

[solid frigate]

character development

[molten oasis]

I played CIR today, so, sure lol

[shadow wind]

I feel like on 90% of teams Zama just outperforms Zacian

[molten oasis]

Well yes

[foggy lodge]

Landorus Urshifu Pelipper Rockpon 🙂

[molten oasis]

No lmao

[foggy lodge]

Also Ho-Oh is horrible

[shadow wind]

I’ve seen some Shieldfish and that stuff is awful

[molten oasis]

It doesn’t need THAT much anti incin

[shadow wind]

Awful in a good way

[foggy lodge]

But if I had to have an autoloss against a restricted I would always take the autoloss against Ho-Oh

Like what who tf is using it

[molten oasis]

I still think swordfish is better

Both hate miraidon

Which is such an issue for kyogre

[shadow wind]

Both can just run Tera grass

It’s real

[molten oasis]

You can’t Tera grass both

[solid frigate]

i run Tera Poison on Kyogre lol

Full resistance against Rilla

[molten oasis]

And like PLEASE Tera grass

My CIR is ready

[shadow wind]

They still have Zama bro 😭😭

[molten oasis]

Ok, so

[solid frigate]

Calyrex:my body is regi

[molten oasis]

Either your wide guard Mon explodes or your main sweeper explodes

Neither even do that much into miraidon

[shadow wind]

I gotta stop getting into these pointless arguments

[molten oasis]

Well zama hits decently hard

[shadow wind]

This game isn’t RPS

[molten oasis]

Idk I think swordfish covers more

[shadow wind]

Every game is different

And you can believe that

[molten oasis]

I shall

[solid frigate]

im just playing myself the most position Heavy gameplay ever with VGC honestly

[shadow wind]

I don’t play either so I have literally zero good points

[molten oasis]

Because it just won a tournament and I have not seen many high placing zama kyogre

It’s a real duo I agree

[foggy lodge]

I don't think its real

I think both are ironically too slow for the format

[molten oasis]

?

[foggy lodge]

In the stat and how to play meaning

[molten oasis]

Wdym by that

[foggy lodge]

Cuz you often get like speed sandwiched

[molten oasis]

Oh, ic

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 889: Zamazenta-Crowned

Types

Fighting/Steel

Abilities

Dauntless Shield

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

92/120/140/80/140/128

Total

700

Base Species

Zamazenta

Sableye version 4.28.2

[foggy lodge]

Bur you also don't have that much pressure you know

[shadow wind]

128 is pretty fast

[molten oasis]

It’s not 135

[shadow wind]

Not 135 fast but still fast

[molten oasis]

And more often than not zama doesn’t run max speed I believe

[shadow wind]

Yeah nah probably not

[foggy lodge]

Kyogre reallistically needs Tornadus to hit the water spout which is the biggest nuke and Zama hits hard but not like crazy hard

So its often that you get like outpaced

[molten oasis]

Are you saying by itself/in general?

Or WITH the partner?

[foggy lodge]

wdym

[shadow wind]

Chien pao

[molten oasis]

Like kyogre as a Mon or with zacian/CIR

[foggy lodge]

Ah no I mean Kyogre with Zama

[shadow wind]

Oh I thought you were talking about Zama

[molten oasis]

Oh gotcha

[foggy lodge]

I think for Zama Kyogre the best way is CM Kyogre

[molten oasis]

Zama also doesn’t really appreciate tailwind as much as Zac does

[foggy lodge]

But CM Kyogre is like awkward

[molten oasis]

Weirdly enough

[foggy lodge]

I wouldn't say its bad but its awkward

[molten oasis]

I think it’s an okay duo

Kinda like how Zac Mirai is an okay duo

[solid frigate]

Grapploct Buff when

[molten oasis]

It works but it’s not strong enough to compare to the obviously better duos

[molten oasis]

In ur dreams

I love grapploct but that mon sucks

[solid frigate]

Its funny that me and Conner just play opposite gen 3 restricteds and then slap a Miraidon cuz we can

[foggy lodge]

I like Clobopuss

[molten oasis]

He’s a lil guy I love him

[foggy lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/poulpaf-clobbopus-gif-22081484

[molten oasis]

Bro’s just vibin

[solid frigate]

little guy frfr

[next stump]

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X · Jun 9, 2025, 11:58 PM

[foggy lodge]

Why does this mon get so little attention

[solid frigate]

[molten oasis]

It’s not gen 8 anymore

[solid frigate]

1. galar Pokemon
   2.not good in anywhere

[molten oasis]

Gonna go cook Zac CSR now I think, at least a concept

[foggy lodge]

Gang give me weird Pokemon that did well in tournaments

Like Overqwil at NAIC

[molten oasis]

pachirisu

[foggy lodge]

Lol

But for this gen

[solid frigate]

iron Crown?

Eevee(SM)

[molten oasis]

Uh Latios won, Utrecht last year I think, or something like that

[foggy lodge]

Nah Iron Crown is not weird lmao

[molten oasis]

Scraggy

[foggy lodge]

Oh yeah the Scraggy

[solid frigate]

idk I haven’t have anything in mind

[foggy lodge]

Stockholm with Goltres

[molten oasis]

Goltres also won that same tournament

Yea, weird team

[foggy lodge]

It was so cool

[molten oasis]

True

[foggy lodge]

But the meta evolved

[next stump]

Illumise

[foggy lodge]

Also with banded Rilla

[next stump]

Peoria 2023

[shadow wind]

Except mine is 10x worse

[molten oasis]

Yep

[shadow wind]

😔

[molten oasis]

Uhhh

[shadow wind]

What an unfortunate fate

[molten oasis]

Umbreon did well with zacian reg g 1

[solid frigate]

i mean

Mirai Ogre vs Mirai Groudon is kinda very neck in Neck

[solid frigate]

the GOAT Umbreon in there

[molten oasis]

Wo chien did okay sometimes

[solid frigate]

oml I remember Shiliang did it with NAIC lol

[shadow wind]

Yeah that one MU but there’s no way you’re arguing that Kyogre and Groudon are equal

[foggy lodge]

I just checked it

[molten oasis]

They’re just not lmao

[foggy lodge]

There's also a fucking Staraptor

[molten oasis]

Unless uh

[foggy lodge]

What

[solid frigate]

in terms of Duo aspect i mean

At least you can fucking spam Discharge

[molten oasis]

We’re talking primals I think kyogre has generally always been better

[foggy lodge]

https://pokepast.es/667e330d99002af9

Nah brother they were cooking

[next stump]

PETER CHEN MY KING

[molten oasis]

Lmao

That’s a cool team

[shadow wind]

Why would I ever spam discharge that move sucks

[solid frigate]

Yeah its just

Primal Groudon>Primal Kyogre
Koraidon>Kyogre>Groudon

[next stump]

he would just final gambit trick room every game

[shadow wind]

This is not a pro

[solid frigate]

exactly

[foggy lodge]

Why Staraptor over Annihilape?

[molten oasis]

Without Tera I’d argue korai is worse than kyogre

[foggy lodge]

Intimidate?

[shadow wind]

Then why bring it up

[molten oasis]

That typing sucks

[next stump]

yeah I’m assuming intimidate but i’m not sure

[solid frigate]

[foggy lodge]

Hm

[solid frigate]

im just messing with Conner lol

[foggy lodge]

Well ig if the only thing you need that slot to do is to kill itself you can reallistically run anything lol

[solid frigate]

i forgot i put Mirai Ogre above Mirai Groudon a whole tier lol

[shadow wind]

Gonna make me crash out

I already use a bummy restricted

[foggy lodge]

https://pokepast.es/6a00ebc9a67ad829

[shadow wind]

There’s no need 😔

[foggy lodge]

Also Dusclops in top 8

It's not a weird mon but I like Dusclops

[solid frigate]

this trolling seesion is sponsored by Team Aqua /j

[foggy lodge]

OH WAIT IT'S BRICK BREAK DUSCLOPS TO PROC WEAKNESS POLICY LMAO

[solid frigate]

bro is actually just tank

[south shuttle]

Guys hear me out

[solid frigate]

no

[south shuttle]

Two words.

White. Kyurem

I want to try it out

[solid frigate]

You dont think I haven’t tried it

[foggy lodge]

It isn't that bad

[south shuttle]

Scarf white kyurem blizzard

[foggy lodge]

Its not meta but to mess around is fine

[solid frigate]

Ok then thats bad

[south shuttle]

With aurora veil a9

Fire watch

[solid frigate]

AV Kyurem is probably better

[south shuttle]

Probably

Actually

Paired with a9 it gets a free 1.5x boost to both stats!

[solid frigate]

the onlt reason i know cuz i tried Dual Weather with Kyogre Kyurem white

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/466b61f52fe4c6f1 hmm

[south shuttle]

Sun fusion flare?

[molten oasis]

Not sure if this cooks, idt it does

[solid frigate]

love the entei here

[foggy lodge]

Oh did you like the Entei lol

[solid frigate]

SUN?!???

[molten oasis]

It was solid yea

[south shuttle]

You said dual weather

[molten oasis]

Like when I brought it it did well

[solid frigate]

RAIN AND SNOW OML-

[south shuttle]

Oh

I didn’t read the kyogre part

Tbh I was originally going to make a nuke white kyurem

[molten oasis]

how does that look for a concept?

[south shuttle]

Overheat spam set

However it sadly doesn’t get overheat 😔

[foggy lodge]

The only slot I'm not sure of is Whimsicott

[solid frigate]

like entei here

[foggy lodge]

And also I would go with aqua jet ursh

[molten oasis]

What’s my tr mu then

It’s why I have taunt lol

[thin totem]

so i almost got parrish trapped earlier... but i watch wolfeys videos

[molten oasis]

And what we thinking over whimsi

I want tw

I think

[south shuttle]

Smh

[molten oasis]

hm, if i drop taunt, lemme look at some things for tr

[thin totem]

am i doing it yet? am i good?

[molten oasis]

amoonguss over whimsi probably isnt terrible ig

[solid frigate]

Its a long process to become good imo

[molten oasis]

but then i go scarf ursh

[solid frigate]

you’ll get there eventually

[shadow wind]

This process is taking too long for me

[molten oasis]

play tournaments bro

like online tournaments

and not groudon

[shadow wind]

God forbid a guy have a little fun

[molten oasis]

the reason this is taking so long is literally cuz you play groudon, probably

[solid frigate]

i only become good after the regional i was in

[shadow wind]

I highly doubt that

He’s pretty awesome if you haven’t heard

[molten oasis]

he's just not

[solid frigate]

He’s really not good in this format

[shadow wind]

Guys I was kidding

[molten oasis]

good lol

[shadow wind]

Why do you keep telling me he’s bad like I’m blind to this fact

If anyone I would know

[molten oasis]

fair enough

[thin totem]

ting lui and giratina is scary vs my team currently

[shadow wind]

And I really don’t know how much further I even have to go on my journey

I feel like I’ve plateaued

[molten oasis]

play tournaments

[shadow wind]

Peaked in Reg G and haven’t done anything since

And it’s not even like I peaked that high

Couldn’t even crack top 5 😔

[molten oasis]

well, from what i've learned

when you know you've plateaued you look for little improvements

[shadow wind]

I’ve entered tours too

[molten oasis]

cuz getting better is a lot slower

[shadow wind]

Back in Reg G I entered loads of limitless ones

[solid frigate]

giratina is really bad

Ting lu i guess its fine

[shadow wind]

Loads being like 10 total

I was pretty happy with how I did at them

[astral kelp]

why was porygon 2 used over farigirafe and indeedee in reg h?

[bold geode]

Tanky as hell and not as many priority moves as you'd think

The priority moves were weaker

So Armor Tail had less value and well

Psyspam was cheeks kinda

[next stump]

kingambit matchup is also much better with p2

[thin totem]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2381930970 so this happened and im glad its over

[solid frigate]

gotta love that i have Hurricane torn

[west pagoda]

Anyone got any tips on how to start playing competative? I used to have fun with a sun team but that was two years ago. Idk the current meta.

[astral kelp]

you just kinda play

get a team from labmaus or #rental_teams

you figure out the meta then like build stuff yourself on showdown if you want

[gentle crag]

Here is a list of all of the resources I find most helpful when playing/learning VGC:

https://www.vgcguide.com/ (Helpful website for basics and also to get your feet wet)

https://www.pikalytics.com/ (Shows you usage data and helps you build Pokémon)

https://nerd-of-now.github.io/NCP-VGC-Damage-Calculator/ (Damage calculator that is very helpful when building teams or reflecting on games)

https://youtube.com/c/CybertronVGC (Best channel for daily VGC content, guiding you through the thought process you need for success)

https://victoryroadvgc.com/ (Tournament results, team reports and breakdowns, and rental codes can be found here)

https://twitter.com/VGCPastes - Tournament and high ranked teams

https://twitter.com/vgccorner - Helpful Twitter account that posts in-depth EV spreads and ideas about competitive pokemon

There are dozens of other resources, some of which are in the pinned messages of this channel. But these IMO are the best places to start absorbing knowledge and getting to a place where you're comfortable with VGC

mlbd (ID 197813560997314562)

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[lofty tartan]

@west pagoda here's some helpful resources

[chrome knot]

for my birthday, I set a world record

[foggy lodge]

Pog

[south shuttle]

has anyone tried to use mewtwo?

im surprised i havent seen it

it has good stats in speed and spatk

witha really good movepool

is fllutter mane the reason why it isnt used?

[next stump]

calyrex-shadow rider is a strict upgrade

the ability is objectively better, it has better stats, and a spread ghost STAB move

[south shuttle]

it gets walled by some types though no?

mewtwo has amazing coverage

[next stump]

yeah but that doesn't really apply well in doubles

because you have teammates to cover for that

stuff like urshifu-water can always handle the weaknesses of calyrex

[south shuttle]

that's true

if only mewtwo dropped some attack

but it's still a good pokemon

it's defenses are good, and it isnt 4x weak to sucker punch like caly-shadow

[next stump]

you're welcome to try and use it, I'm just trying to explain why people dont use it in tournaments

there's an objectively better version available

[cosmic warren]

Caly usually has a partner with a redirect or fake out for that

[solid frigate]

or just

have something for that mon and play better

[plain drum]

@chrome knot Happy birthday

[chrome knot]

tyyy

[twin kindle]

Feliz cumple

[bold geode]

Birthday girl?

[chrome knot]

yus

[bold geode]

Happy birthday Emma

[lofty tartan]

Happy birthday @chrome knot !

[chrome knot]

tyyyyy

[dense latch]

happy birthday and congrats!!

[south shuttle]

which tauros is better?

water or fire tauros?

[next stump]

both are bad right now but if you’re gonna use one, I’d probably use water

Depends on how much you wanna handle amoonguss/rilla versus incin/urshifu

[south shuttle]

ah, ok

I was just going to make a cool gimmick team

thinking about anger point mon + urshifu

[prisma geyser]

Ok I’m almost done with my eletric terrain team

It consists of miridon ogerpon urshifu alolan raichu and tornadous

Im strongly considering arboliva but if y’all have any other pokemon pls tell me

[foggy lodge]

Arboliva ruins your own terrain :v

[astral kelp]

coverage kinda doesnt matter half the time tbh losing stab makes you do like no damage

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 150: Mewtwo

Type

Psychic

Abilities

Pressure, Unnerve (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

106/110/90/154/90/130

Total

680

Other Formes

Mewtwo-Mega-X, Mewtwo-Mega-Y

Sableye version 4.28.2

[astral kelp]

oh damn thats better than i thought ngl

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 898: Calyrex-Shadow

Types

Psychic/Ghost

Abilities

As One (Spectrier)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/85/80/165/100/150

Total

680

Base Species

Calyrex

Sableye version 4.28.2

[astral kelp]

i thought mewtwo was like 130 spa lol

and 100 speed

[prisma geyser]

I was thinking arboliva because of terrain pulse and its hp

And it would give me coverage with it’s grass moves

[foggy lodge]

You need a 2nd restricted

[south shuttle]

which is better on dialga?

adamant orb or adamant crystal?

[prisma geyser]

So would zekrom would work or one of the calyrexs

[dense latch]

dialga origin is objectively an upgrade over regular dialga stat wise

so adamant crystal if you really wanna use dialga

[tiny karma]

Move: Sandstorm

For 5 turns, the weather becomes Sandstorm. At the end of each turn except the last, all active Pokemon lose 1/16 of their maximum HP, rounded down, unless they are a Ground, Rock, or Steel type, or have the Magic Guard, Overcoat, Sand Force, Sand Rush, or Sand Veil Abilities. During the effect, the Special Defense of Rock-type Pokemon is multiplied by 1.5 when taking damage from a special attack. Lasts for 8 turns if the user is holding Smooth Rock. Fails if the current weather is Sandstorm.

Type

Rock

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

​

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Wind

Triggers Wind Power and Wind Rider.

Sableye version 4.28.2

[solid frigate]

just run Iron Hands

[cosmic warren]

Why alolan raichu on a miraidon team? Thats usually used to counter miraidon

[solid frigate]

say it with me

Favourites

[cosmic warren]

You speak for them?

[solid frigate]

they literally said that few days ago

[cosmic warren]

Omg LITERALLY????

maybe metaphorically

[bold geode]

What did I come back to

[solid frigate]

arboliva on Mirai comp

[next stump]

https://youtu.be/UnX9c_sytDY?si=9FYvEjAXfmt9wDYc

TOP 512 NEEDED

[solid frigate]

thats like 2-3 wins?

[next stump]

4 wins with good resistance, 5 wins guarantees it

[solid frigate]

hopefully

[bold geode]

That's honestly not that bad is it

[next stump]

it’s really not compared to a lot of other players

it’s just incredibly stressful hahah

[solid frigate]

https://x.com/TorrentAegisVGC/status/1932308379600572790

I just made this meme for the blog lol

TorrentAegisVGC/Morris (@TorrentAegisVGC)

Kyogre Blog is going to be published this week,stay tuned!

#PokemonVGC #Kyogre #Grimmsnarl #RegulationI #memes

X · Jun 10, 2025, 5:26 AM

[south shuttle]

so fire 🥹

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/honkai-star-rail-dan-heng-gif-10008267026330058903

[south shuttle]

bro

the krookodile ttech

wicked blow is resisted

• the anger point

[next stump]

if you manage to pull it off send a replay

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/kyogre-kyogresmile-pokemon-pokemon-smile-kyogre-creepy-gif-19828510

[south shuttle]

alright

[left bobcat]

THE THUG?

Is it me or does incin look- different

[south shuttle]

your eyes arent decieving you

yeah the team sucks

😭

[solid frigate]

bro finally realised

[south shuttle]

the main issue is fake-out

[solid frigate]

not really

even you get out of that situation

your mons just dies

[south shuttle]

finally worked

had to replace sash for covert cloak

[left bobcat]

Mhm

[south shuttle]

it can ork though

[left bobcat]

ORKKKK

[south shuttle]

work*

[left bobcat]

I prefer ork

[molten oasis]

-8ball will my day of testing go well

[gentle crag]

will my day of testing go well
:8ball: My sources say no

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/eo2gifs-deltarune-deltarune-chapter-3-ant-tenna-tenna-deltarune-gif-8379621875628236258

Ofc it won’t

[lofty tartan]

Or it could go fine because it's just a bot giving you random answers

Unless you manifest destiny, I guess

[molten oasis]

I do

(Im mostly messing around)

[lofty tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/ill-allow-it-ken-jeong-korean-mexican-hat-gif-5187167

[plush lark]

https://pokepast.es/7accc48a3ff7053e

Is it worth replacing shiftry with rilla? Also who should I put in my last slot; had ting-Lu but he doesn't do much

[molten oasis]

Yes 100%

shiftry is generally pretty bad

[plush lark]

Yeah, I wanted chlorophyll

[molten oasis]

Replace dragon claw on koraidon for flare blitz

I’d suggested Tera fire on kyurem

Idk why you have milotic

[plush lark]

Incin, wanted to try it out

[molten oasis]

Should either run flutter over whimsi or run encore over taunt and protect

[plush lark]

I don't have protect?

[molten oasis]

Whimsi has helping hand

I’d suggest protect

Milotic is hurt in the sun

And koraidon is a pretty good anti incin tool already

Why kyurem btw? Lunala or Calyrex shadow would be better here

[plush lark]

I like kyurem

Simplest answer I have

[molten oasis]

Fair enough, so I’m guessing the kyurem is staying

[plush lark]

Yup

[tiny karma]

Kyurem-White's moveset:

Physical Moves

Aerial Ace, Avalanche, Body Press, Body Slam, Breaking Swipe, Brutal Swing, Cut, Dragon Claw, Dragon Tail, Dual Wingbeat, Endeavor, Facade, Fling, Fly, Frustration, Giga Impact, Ice Fang, Icicle Spear, Iron Head, Outrage, Payback, Return, Rock Slide, Rock Smash, Rock Tomb, Scale Shot, Secret Power, Shadow Claw, Slash, Steel Wing, Stone Edge, Strength, Take Down, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Ancient Power, Blizzard, Draco Meteor, Dragon Breath, Dragon Pulse, Dragon Rage, Earth Power, Echoed Voice, Flash Cannon, Focus Blast, Freeze-Dry, Fusion Flare, Glaciate, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Hyper Voice, Ice Beam, Ice Burn, Icy Wind, Psychic, Round, Shadow Ball, Sheer Cold, Signal Beam, Snore, Swift, Tera Blast, Weather Ball

Status Moves

Confide, Double Team, Dragon Cheer, Dragon Dance, Endure, Hail, Helping Hand, Hone Claws, Imprison, Laser Focus, Light Screen, Noble Roar, Protect, Rain Dance, Reflect, Rest, Roar, Roost, Safeguard, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Snowscape, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Toxic

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Kyurem-White.

Sableye version 4.28.2

[molten oasis]

Draco over flash cannon

[plush lark]

Flash cannon has been doing wonders ngl

Helps with Tera fairy Miradon

[molten oasis]

You don’t

Ok sure but miraidon should have already killed you by then

And flare blitz from koraidon obliterates miraidon

[plush lark]

Kora def dies before Mira

[dense latch]

anything that isn't tera fire flare blitz flame charge + collision course/close combat is throwing imo

[molten oasis]

You have pressure against it

[dense latch]

also it typically won't bc most miraidon are gonna be slower than your koraidon

[molten oasis]

And teams run flutter quite often

Which is a big help into miraidon

Whimsi is also helpful, and most miraidon are not timid

[dense latch]

yea moonblast + flare blitz is just a pin

[plush lark]

I didn't realize it was Tera fighting, meant to change that

[molten oasis]

Tera fire flare blitz

[dense latch]

don't get the milotic here either

[molten oasis]

Dragon coverage does virtually nothing on koraidon

[plush lark]

Noted

[dense latch]

also you def need something for ice rider in the current state of your team

[plush lark]

So toss shift/milotic

Add rilla

Find ice rider counter

[molten oasis]

Amoonguss or brute bonnet

Bonnet is much bulkier and hard to remove

[dense latch]

also are you keen on using kyurem white or is that replaceable

[molten oasis]

But amoonguss will underspeed it inside tr

[plush lark]

Keeping kyurem

[dense latch]

i don't really see the synergy with koraidon

[plush lark]

I don't know if I want 3 grass types, I feel like that can blow up easy

[molten oasis]

What?

I didn’t say both

[plush lark]

Whims + rilla

[molten oasis]

I said one or the other, and go flutter over whimsi

Flutter’s a better partner for koraidon

Forgot about the rilla

[left bobcat]

That fiyahhhhhhhh

[plush lark]

I feel like flutter and whims fill diff roles

[dense latch]

kind of but what flutter offers is better than what whim does for your team

[left bobcat]

Yeah ones a glass canon and the other is just glass

[dense latch]

provides some speed control + chip and stronger fairy coverage

[molten oasis]

They are different roles but flutter accomplishes its roles that koraidon needs better

[plush lark]

Kingambit for ice rider counter?

[molten oasis]

No

[dense latch]

gambit isnt good

[molten oasis]

Kingambit is pretty meh this format

[dense latch]

you could honestly just run incin

it’s basic but it’s popular for a reason

[molten oasis]

Incin’s good yea

Incin amoonguss korai flutter is a strong core

Or at least has been before

[dense latch]

https://pokepast.es/f4c434b775175a0a example

9-2 bologna

[molten oasis]

It’s not Kyurem but

Kyurem is pretty meh in this format as well

[dense latch]

yea it’s just to show off the core

kyurem white has no results in major tournaments

kinda sad but

[plush lark]

Yet!

I'm mostly joking, i just screw around on showdown in my downtime

[molten oasis]

K well, I’d just do smth like

Incin amoonguss kyurem korai flutter+1

[plush lark]

Potentially rilla

[molten oasis]

Idk about rilla

For this team

[plush lark]

Urshi rapid?

[molten oasis]

No

You get nerfed in the sun

[left bobcat]

Yo

The counter to ice rider is the friends we made along the way

[molten oasis]

Could go single strike shifu maybe

At least start somewhere

[plush lark]

Iron moth?

Nah

[solid frigate]

what am i looking at

like genuinely

[plush lark]

Hey man

I make unorthodox teams ok

[solid frigate]

there's nothing wrong with Unorthodox teams

Heck i did Kyurem White+Kyogre,Terapagos+Eternatus

The problem is that it does not have anything to support it further enough to make it at least long lasting in mid ladder

for example,Koraidon and Kyurem white are fine with having Flutter Mane for speed Booster support

[rustic mountain]

i think unorthodox is fine if ur esm or boyt and can teambuild properly otherwise its mostly just ppl using some weird 3 turn set up gimmick or their favorite and calling it unorthodox

which can also be fine if ur ok mostly losing

[solid frigate]

tree this is bullshit

[rustic mountain]

?

r u showing a mid ladder win to showcase winning consistently?

[solid frigate]

thats not the main thing

[rustic mountain]

[solid frigate]

look at how far down i become to use Eternatus with Pagos

[rustic mountain]

im not sure what ur calling out/disagreeing w/ me on

lmao

i mean this formats kinda mid, if it takes that to have some fun why not

[solid frigate]

somehow it worked? but whimsicott does nothing lmao

but i like Meteor Beam Eternatus a lot currently

[rustic mountain]

damn lol well thats something still can atleast workshop other mons in that slot

[solid frigate]

i thought about Volcarona,Hearthflame Ogerpon or Incin cuz sure Eternatus walls Zama But can't hit even with +1

[rustic mountain]

i gta tune back in ive taken a bit of hiatus. like 1-2 weeks of not keeping tabs on the meta

try em out see how it goes

theory crafting only means so much b4 u put it to actual use

[solid frigate]

probably later,but yeah can't belive i play Niche and another Niche in this format

[rustic mountain]

im not really surprised ur playing pagos cuz its like ur fav restricted

im more surprised u went away from rain

[solid frigate]

Giratina casually,

Mirai Ogre i kinda already broke their Limits so end on a High note is prefered, and i wanna try Shadow Rider+Kyogre but i have skill issue on Shadow Rider Specifically

Eternatus+Pagos is not that stally which i can get away with it,Plus i don't like you still get fucked by Zama or Korai with CSR

[rustic mountain]

ill rephrase
favorite restricted thats useable

cuz giratina is not

yea its good to switch it up learn other comps and playstyles

[solid frigate]

used to be back in gen 4 but yeah

Pagos>Miraidon>Kyogre>Ice Rider

[rustic mountain]

was it?

i feel it was even niche back then

[solid frigate]

it was a niche but since its just Creation Trio+Weather trio back then

Giratina does work in some cases

[rustic mountain]

i guess

[solid frigate]

fun thing about Eternatus Pagos,it was originally Eternatus Miraidon but i changed my idea

cuz they don't cover each other other than rillaboom vs Etern

[rustic mountain]

yea

[solid frigate]

but Eternatus Protects Pagos from Fighting Types,Pagos Protects Eternatus from The Calyrexes

adding Foul Play Grimm for good Measure

Both are fine against Kyogre and Ho-Oh

only problematic MU is Zacian and Miraidon

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/fa08a8d7ee7e32e9 the curse ursa is definitely a bo1 thing but this is fun lol

[left bobcat]

Bang

[south shuttle]

hmm

i was thinking of some guaranteed trickroom team

alcremie misty explosion paired with lunala might be pretty good

[next stump]

what happens if they double attack into lunala

or taunt

[south shuttle]

that's here sweet veil comes in

[tiny karma]

Ability: Sweet Veil

This Pokemon and its allies cannot fall asleep, but those already asleep do not wake up immediately. This Pokemon and its allies cannot use Rest successfully or become affected by Yawn, and those previously affected will not fall asleep.

Sableye version 4.28.2

[south shuttle]

wrong one

[tiny karma]

Ability: Aroma Veil

This Pokemon and its allies cannot become affected by Attract, Disable, Encore, Heal Block, Taunt, or Torment.

Sableye version 4.28.2

[chrome knot]

imprison tr

[south shuttle]

lunala max bulk and shadow shield should be enough

[next stump]

give it a shot but I think it's gonna be harder than you're expecting. It's probably safer to just have a dedicated follow me user that you're fine with dying

[south shuttle]

we'll see

right now im trying a clefairy team

[foggy lodge]

And who sets the terrain

I like Alcremie too but Smeargle just outclasses it in almost every way

[south shuttle]

misty terrain isnt needed

[tiny karma]

Move: Misty Explosion

If the current terrain is Misty Terrain and the user is grounded, this move's power is multiplied by 1.5. The user faints after using this move, even if this move fails for having no target. This move is prevented from executing if any active Pokemon has the Damp Ability.

Type

Fairy

Category

Special

Power

100

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

5 (8)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Sableye version 4.28.2

[next stump]

2 days until NAIC 😄

[chrome knot]

omw rn

fit hard fo today? @next stump

[bold geode]

[next stump]

you might need to change in NOLA hahaha I think it's in the 90s this week

[chrome knot]

its a very light sweater im ngl

[wet wedge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAJ1o5u99yo

I'M DYING TONIGHT

[next stump]

LOL

why are they releasing this 4 months later????

[dense latch]

gm chat

[chrome knot]

Kuh

[dense latch]

https://tenor.com/view/volcarona-pokemon-plush-spin-rotate-gif-1895534360183536919

qd volc has been carrying me recently

[chrome knot]

kuh blast

[next stump]

are you running tera grass giga drain

if there was like another week or two before NAIC i might consider bringing that

[dense latch]

been trying qd tera dragon struggle bug

but there was this eseed giga drain volc on cir mirai that made top 4 vr which i found cool

so i might test that out

[spiral ridge]

Kuh

[astral kelp]

i just thought of the craziest tech forthis team

what if instead of fari

we run this

so i can keep my prority moves and indeedee can help rayray setup a cheeky swords dance

[south shuttle]

/dt\

[tiny karma]

Ability: Magic Bounce

This Pokemon is unaffected by certain non-damaging moves directed at it and will instead use such moves against the original user. Moves reflected in this way are unable to be reflected again by this or Magic Coat's effect. Spikes, Stealth Rock, Sticky Web, and Toxic Spikes can only be reflected once per side, by the leftmost Pokemon under this or Magic Coat's effect. The Lightning Rod and Storm Drain Abilities redirect their respective moves before this Ability takes effect.

Sableye version 4.28.2

[astral kelp]

or ig goth could work it could also force the opponent to give cir leech seed healing

[south shuttle]

disgusting team

i hate stall

[cosmic warren]

I love having zacian for galarian weezing

[exotic grotto]

What tera type would you give your Gothitelle?

[next stump]

playing bo1 as bo3 warmup has been working out

[exotic grotto]

Are you gen9vgc2025regi? You're really skilled!

[dense latch]

that's insane wow

naic isn't ready

[next stump]

❤️ hahaha thank you

day 2 baby that's the goal

secure that worlds invite

[exotic grotto]

You'll surely reach day 2! Give your best!

[shadow wind]

Holy goat

[astral kelp]

idk dark ig

[molten oasis]

Wow lmao

That’s insane

[molten oasis]

This is real? Huh

[next stump]

nintendo streaming VGC?

[solid frigate]

yooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[molten oasis]

Bruh cmon

I almost win a game and miraidon misses the one time I click Draco today

[dense latch]

it’s worked great for me so far

except for the fact that everything is now running meteor beam the second i try it out

[exotic grotto]

I wonder if there's any reason behind this..

[molten oasis]

Contrary skill swap Malamar with incin with close combat power trip and overheat

That’s a new one lol

[solid frigate]

https://torrentaegisvgc.wordpress.com/2025/06/11/depths-of-hoenns-waters-kyogre-guide/
@rustic mountain i fucking lied i'm going back to rain lol

[dense latch]

just pulled minimize drifblim baton pass into dozo giri and a cosmic power fire spin etern + life dew ho-oh back to back

what did i do to deserve this

[next stump]

https://tenor.com/view/fate-worse-than-death-ouat-once-upon-a-time-abc-gif-9426923

[chrome knot]

dillon

ive been here since 10

ive legit been walkin laps of the airport im so bored,,,,,

[next stump]

get some beignets

[dense latch]

does csr really need to be any faster

[next stump]

https://tenor.com/view/shaggy-scooby-doo-running-fast-drive-gotta-go-gif-14864926

[molten oasis]

It must be

Bro’s cooking

[chrome knot]

at the detroit airport my friend

in literal hell

[south shuttle]

just hit 1350 on the ladder!

terapagos is still very strong

surprised I dont see more

[lofty tartan]

It has plenty of ways to struggle in the current format. It usually wants your Tera and your game plan to focus around it.

He's sort of an "all eggs in one basket" mon. Which is why you don't see it more often

[dense latch]

congrats 🔥

[south shuttle]

ah

because the tteam im running does include some supports

like clefairy and whimsicott

[lofty tartan]

Supports are fine but that's not what I mean.

[rustic mountain]

[lofty tartan]

Like it more often than not will be what you Tera. Terapagos can't run a defensive Tera, so it's commanding a very important resource without as many gains as other big restricted mons using Tera. It just stays weak to stuff like Iron Hands and Urshifu. Because of that it can be pressured a lot easier than, say, Calyrex Shadow losing its crippling 4x weakness to dark

[rustic mountain]

also too like its ability removing terrain and weather can counteract or be opposing to other partners u may want on ur team making it even more restrictive in the teambuilding sense

specifically the other restricted slot

[lofty tartan]

Also that ability to stop terrain or weather is incredibly predictable, which is another influencing factor

[dense latch]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2382967536-yk3l1segu0blaerkw23t9df8v2h2hhnpw volc might be my fav vgc mon of all time honestly

cooks as a support, cooks as qd set up

[rustic mountain]

volcs cool

was on my first sv comp team

used it a few times since

[dense latch]

i remember using it in the one format i played in swsh to support xerneas

[south shuttle]

yes, however my team doesnt really rely on terraain nor weather

[dense latch]

then in reg h it carried me to top 25 in bo1 ladder

[rustic mountain]

should be fine then, we are moreso just noting its flaws in the meta currently overall, its just a tougher restricted to pick and make work

[lofty tartan]

Not relying on terrain or weather is not what I mean with that statement. Using terapagos to remove terrain and weather is incredibly predictable

[rustic mountain]

lotta ppl play it super linear too

[south shuttle]

yeah, i guess just setting up trick room with caly-ice

[rustic mountain]

like mika mentioned

[south shuttle]

of course it's predictable, it's the only way terapagos really doess damage

is by terastilizing

[lofty tartan]

Yeah other restricted legends usually don't have to be so full-commit to ramp up to take kos

[dense latch]

pagos has a pretty high skill ceiling imo

[rustic mountain]

which goes back to wat he was originally saying that its a tera hog that doesnt shed its weakness

[lofty tartan]

Calyrex gets them accidentally

[dense latch]

the standard linear play of pagos only gets you so far

[chrome knot]

31 out and im wearing a sweater!!!

[rustic mountain]

ngl after i saw pagos get 2-0d by csr and like it literally walled it i lost all faith in it, like it just seems so bad

[chrome knot]

very good choice i made today

[lofty tartan]

Yeah like I'm just noting why it isn't seen as often

There's a lot of chips stacked against terapagos

Reg G it was much more relevant

[south shuttle]

it only has one weakness in fighting, which is raather common. However, given the right team it can work

[lofty tartan]

And that isn't saying much

[rustic mountain]

there might b 1 team that figures it out but idk it just seems so much for something wen u can have instant offense w/ like all the top restricteds

[south shuttle]

terapagos is pretty good against some threats too

[lofty tartan]

[south shuttle]

having a move that can't be resisted is nice

[lofty tartan]

I feel like you're trying to change how people see the struggle of Tera turtle. I don't know how successful you're gonna be seeing as it has been struggling all format. 🤷

Like I'm not saying don't run it.

I just saw a question

[dense latch]

that was so funny to me ngl like the one restricted you're supposed to have a good mu into 😭

[rustic mountain]

i think they are more just saying they see use case where others dont but even then, i think a lot of wat ur listing as the strengths just still isnt enough for it

[south shuttle]

yeah it's quite difficult with so many koraidon and urshifu around

[lofty tartan]

Yeah I thought terapagos would be a lot better into Caly too but the horse too stronk

[solid frigate]

Tera does less lmao

[next stump]

I am trying to type up my thoughts about the matchup for my team into CSR/Zama for some friends running the team and I am on turn 2 and currently at 1000 words already, this is cooked

[rustic mountain]

yea sure it was encore csr but if that 1 tech throws the mu thats supposed to be favored to u on its head then yea ur booty cheeks

[lofty tartan]

Torrent ain't wrong.

The second Starstorm becomes a spread move, it does less damage

[solid frigate]

trust me i play pagos too much to know it

[rustic mountain]

lmao gl dillon

[south shuttle]

from what i've played it does well against shado rider

[south shuttle]

yes but the first move is a super effective hit no?

[lofty tartan]

It doesn't. If it did, it wouldn't struggle so much.

[bold geode]

Terapagos is mid and good at the same time, just an odd fuckin conundrum

[rustic mountain]

yea

[south shuttle]

kinda like shadow rider?

[lofty tartan]

Like if Terapagos was some really good tech into Caly Shadow, I guarantee top players would've been on it long before now

[rustic mountain]

terapagos was better into csr wen it was 1v1 restricted, now we got 2 pagos just cannot contend generally where csr has only gotten better and doesnt care as much playing vs it

[dense latch]

damnn meanwhile the csr zama player can probably just barrage

[bold geode]

Tera Star storm after tera only hits tera'd mons SE

[bold geode]

The fuck? No

[solid frigate]

Pagos is good against Both Calyrexes imo

[south shuttle]

people call it fraud rider all the time

[bold geode]

CSR is like one of the best restricted in the format bar none

They're wrong as hell

[rustic mountain]

its top 2 w/ mirai imo

[bold geode]

Pokemon players look at a mon do not good once and say "shits ass"

[next stump]

LOL it basically all comes down to if the Zama player is a wide guard clicker or not

[lofty tartan]

No. Starstorm isn't super effective into everything. It's effective into everything and SE into tera'd mons. It does less damage when you Tera because spread moves do less damage when hitting multiple targets

[rustic mountain]

yea like ppl in general the community is very reaction based

[bold geode]

It's good sometimes to have your own look on things

[rustic mountain]

agreed

[south shuttle]

ohh, i really didnt know what the stellar type did

[bold geode]

Now if it's fact like for example
Incineroar is good
Yeah
But like there's other things

[rustic mountain]

pagos is confusing how it functions

[shadow wind]

Groudon

[rustic mountain]

so i dont blame u not knowing that interaction but def need to know how it works if ur gna use it

[south shuttle]

tthat's why i run tera starstorm specs 😭

[bold geode]

I also have a rule not to doubt objectively good Pokemon, so like I don't doubt Terapagos but like I do know it has a problem

It's just too slow to get going a lot of the time

[lofty tartan]

It likes grassy terrain to reset Tera shell.

It removes terrain when you Tera

He's confused

[south shuttle]

i just havent played indigo disk

so i wouldnt know the stellaar type

[rustic mountain]

fair enough just mean moreso to familiarize urself so ur not confused or caught off wen running it

[bold geode]

I will admit
Lately has been the one of two moments where Groudon has actually beaten me, but only cuz it's Sun and not cuz of Groudon itself

[dense latch]

my csr zama mu sometimes is unfortunately just "there's no way they click wide guard right" or "there's no way they don't click wide guard right" i might just have to start doing whatever i think won't work against these players

[lofty tartan]

Choice Specs Starstorm

So just put some fat fighting guy in front and blast it

[south shuttle]

why was groudon bad again? precipice blades missing?

[next stump]

the higher up on the ladder they are

[lofty tartan]

Zama loves seeing specs pagos

[next stump]

the less likely it is they click wide guard

i dont make the rules

[bold geode]

Y'know what pisses me off
Terapagos is actually a great Mon for Specs in theory but it just doesn't have enough firepower at times

[rustic mountain]

conner is trolling groudon is a terrible example it hasnt done well in so long

[south shuttle]

funny enough every zama I ran into never ran or clicked ide guard

alwawys body press

[lofty tartan]

It's not wide guard you have to worry about

It's getting chipped to remove Tera shell and eating that body press raw

[bold geode]

CSR Zam doesn't like Sun so unfortunately I have to take note of Groudon though I will admit
They're written on the back of the binder

[rustic mountain]

yea cuz the threat of wide guard is there so u assume ur opponent will play around it. still doesnt mean u shouldnt click it tho so many greedy players out there

especially higher ladder

the greediest of players

[bold geode]

Yeah Pagos is so weak to Zam too
Tera Shell only saves it unless you're like

[solid frigate]

yeah Pagos Benefit the most on Screens

[bold geode]

The one MU with Pagos I couldn't beat were the ones that carried Sub but then you're only using Star storm as an attack

[shadow wind]

😔

[lofty tartan]

Tera Shell saves it if your opponent isn't wise to chipping with fake out.

But only once

[rustic mountain]

i think it top cut one of the reg i tours? but still

[bold geode]

Yeah
Even the CSR Pagos MUs aren't that great against Zam

[lofty tartan]

HoOh/lunala

[bold geode]

They have to carry Disable and shut off Wide Guard

[lofty tartan]

Bark bark bark

[bold geode]

You see Lunala as a CM Mon
Still slow to get going but it's actually heat

[rustic mountain]

lunalas cool

[bold geode]

But yeah Pagos kinda pisses me off cuz like
As a Specs Mon it'd be fantastic
It has a move for every type

Coverage is insane but sadly
Shit ass

[rustic mountain]

yea u mostly wanna just click starstorm anyway

[bold geode]

Yeah
You remember the Sleep Talk set

[rustic mountain]

yea lol

[bold geode]

Shit was hilarious
Just nah lemme run that and Starstorm, call it a day

[lofty tartan]

Ugh I have a meeting with city officials in like 17 minutes. Plus side is free catering

[bold geode]

Lucky

[lofty tartan]

Yeah pizza tastes better when it's free

I'm just sipping some peach tea outside of a sandwich shop while I wait.

I work hard for my money

[bold geode]

That sounds good

[lofty tartan]

Oh yeah dude my job fucking rules.

[bold geode]

Idk rn I'm in a car
Unfortunately family emergency, pulling the plug on a great uncle

[lofty tartan]

Sorry to hear that man

[bold geode]

Yeah
Unfortunately it was one that me and my mom well
Had a falling out with years back but still

Family

[lofty tartan]

Yeah still

[molten oasis]

Getting my wrist checked out finally

Hopefully nothings wrong

[molten oasis]

So it probably is carpal tunnel

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-tenna-deltarune-chapter-3-gif-12082953415188549519

[chrome knot]

<@&663761167176433665> lol

[spiral ridge]

dammit i was about to

[chrome knot]

cooked by levels for unlocking embeds

[spiral ridge]

mhm

[merry summit]

@chrome knot max level stink

[chrome knot]

ok peeah

[molten oasis]

goated Berdly pfp

[lofty tartan]

You're becoming a man now, son.

[molten oasis]

Being a man sucks lol

[lofty tartan]

Carpal tunnel is often just confused for general pain too so don't worry too much.

Some people need surgeries for really bad cases, but most of them are mild inconveniences

[molten oasis]

I’m just wearing a cast for now

[chrome knot]

theres a cool solution actually

[molten oasis]

What is it

[chrome knot]

not being a man at all

[molten oasis]

Maybe I’ll consider it

[chrome knot]

🏳️‍⚧️❓🤨

[molten oasis]

Wha? lol

Ik what you meant before

[chrome knot]

-8ball do i switch teams last second

[gentle crag]

do i switch teams last second
:8ball: Signs point to yes

[chrome knot]

hmmmmmm

[molten oasis]

Is what you got not working?

[chrome knot]

no theres just

a SLIGHTLY more optimized version

changes only 2 mons im just

unsure….

[molten oasis]

-8ball is the slightly more optimized version better

[gentle crag]

is the slightly more optimized version better
:8ball: Signs point to yes

[molten oasis]

Welp, there’s an answer lol

Maybe test both for a bit today?

See what feels better

[spiral ridge]

its only wednesday
time to spam ladder and see how it feels

[chrome knot]

noooo

[molten oasis]

lol

[ocean timber]

-8ball do i go get my bangs trimmed real quick before i leave tmrw

oomf hates me </3

[molten oasis]

-8ball am I screwed

[gentle crag]

am I screwed
:8ball: It is certain

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-tenna-deltarune-chapter-3-gif-12082953415188549519

[chrome knot]

yea otherwise youll look like me

i need mine trimmed bad lmfao

[ocean timber]

this convinced me

@gork recede my hairline

[chrome knot]

yah this and stuff

[left bobcat]

SCHYEAH

[spiral ridge]

shes wrong she looks good with the bangs

[chrome knot]

yeah when theyre done correctly

rn they are EVERYWHERE lmfao

[spiral ridge]

cover yo bigass forehead then/j

[chrome knot]

???????????

[spiral ridge]

:3

[chrome knot]

calling my forehead big :<

[spiral ridge]

teehee

[chrome knot]

:(

[spiral ridge]

look pms ill tell you something to make up

[craggy dagger]

can someone help me with booster energy effects-

i don’t remember the % buff that booster energy gives

[next stump]

1.3x for speed, 1.5x for all other stats

wait

did I get that backwards

yeah hahaha I did

speed is 1.5x (AKA +1), all other stats are 1.3x

slightly weaker than choice items

[craggy dagger]

thank you!

[chrome knot]

nova haai

[knotty mirage]

I have question does destiny bond effect end on next turn after using the move ?

[craggy dagger]

ellou

[craggy dagger]

until the user moves again

pretty sure at least-

[chrome knot]

https://x.com/manicpixiegirle/status/1932922758209388756?s=46&t=FIWgOpf0yRQcHBdRCEbKnw

emmyan (@manicpixiegirle)

for all my trans friends you cannot pick up your badge from the airport if you’re running on a preferred name and not updated ID

X · Jun 11, 2025, 10:07 PM

@ocean timber

[bold geode]

Ah lovely

[chrome knot]

they denied me my badge lol

[bold geode]

Damn

[chrome knot]

so i have to pick up tmrw

[ocean timber]

RK9 when they take 2 weeks to process my name change request just for it to be too late once they get to it

[chrome knot]

bwa

[ocean timber]

we WILL be winning with the deadname

[molten oasis]

Win win

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/gyarados-lgbt-gay-flag-lgbt-flag-gay-gif-11420291353401261512

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/die-kill-kill-spamton-spam-ton-spamton-gif-3620765161838693337

[bold geode]

Nah

[latent leaf]

Did they cook or burn down the kitchen

[molten oasis]

The kitchen doesn’t exist anymore

[craggy dagger]

the kitchen got flooded

[shadow wind]

I love Haydunn

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/WolfeyGlick/status/1932813616639816090

Wolfey (@WolfeyGlick)

North American Internationals this weekend is threatening to once again break the record for the largest official Pokemon live tournament ever, so may I just say

JUST LET ME HOLD THE RECORD ARE YOU KIDDING ME PLEASE DONT BREAK IT PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

X · Jun 11, 2025, 2:54 PM

[shadow wind]

Shell smash population bomb Smeargle is a goated set

[latent leaf]

All apart of incineroars plan

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/miraidon-pokemon-vgc-violet-electric-terrain-gif-12584623631968381813

[ocean timber]

Literally me in 2 days

[atomic mural]

https://tenor.com/view/tenna-dance-tenna-dance-deltarune-chapter-3-chapter-3-gif-1144369097261177735

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/tv-tenna-ant-tenna-antenna-deltarune-gif-9442276538501173676

[atomic mural]

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-chapter-3-dance-mr-tenna-mr-ant-tenna-gif-3596019114103602704

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/tenna-deltarune-spamton-msmods-gif-10292269325985366562

[fickle void]

K so, i have been looking into good pokemon to try in sun with groudon, and i have landed on one i think is rlly good.

Scovillain

Now hear me out

[shadow wind]

Groudon gaming ??

[fickle void]

Groudon pretty much exclusively used clear amulet which prevents stat drops and scovillain learns the move spicy extract (+2 atk -2 def) but that dont matter cuz amulet, scovillain also gets chlorophyll, so it doesnt gotta worry about speed. If it needs redirection it has rage powder and if you come across smth like, idk urshifu rapid strike, he has wil o wisp to drop that atk!

Hes perfect for groudon... Except his stats suck ass-

If you want a lil bit of dmg on him you can also use stab solar beam or like overheat

Learns grass knot for Kyogre

[shadow wind]

I feel like Volcarona is just better in almost every way

Besides boosting Groudons damage

[strange fjord]

chat am i cooking?

[atomic mural]

Yes

[shadow wind]

I like just used Ape too

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/tenna-deltarune-spamton-msmods-gif-10292269325985366562

What am I looking at

[chrome knot]

gotta be the worst gif oat😭😭

[left bobcat]

Hold up

Hold the phone

[molten oasis]

Nah it’s peak

[chrome knot]

yeah…….

[molten oasis]

If you’ve played deltarune you’d know

[solid frigate]

nope

pls don't

[strange fjord]

wdym nope? this is a perfectly normal and functional team composition

[ocean timber]

We got redirection ✅, speed sandwiching ✅, damage ✅, and bulk ✅. What else could you need!?

ignore speed control that’s fake anyways

[atomic mural]

Mike, Play the VHS!

[strange fjord]

who needs speed control anyways? tailwind was last reg

[molten oasis]

Coming straight from YOUR house!

[atomic mural]

Coming straight from your house

[molten oasis]

Coming!

[atomic mural]

He’s the one (Coming!)

[strange fjord]

ohh and i may or may not have decided against the use of follow me on ogerpon

who needs redirection when you got other moves?

[molten oasis]

The KING of only!

[atomic mural]

He’s groovy, and never glooby!

[molten oasis]

You can’t get this from an egg!

[atomic mural]

The sensation on YOUR screen!

[molten oasis]

The show that makes you scream!

[atomic mural]

Say it with him folks!

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-chapter-ch-3-ant-gif-4924904170325380742

[atomic mural]

Its so peak 🙏

[molten oasis]

I love tenna sm lol

[atomic mural]

Me too

https://tenor.com/view/tv-tenna-ant-tenna-antenna-deltarune-gif-9442276538501173676

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/tv-tenna-ant-tenna-antenna-deltarune-gif-9442276538501173676

[latent leaf]

If only rayquaza was faster

[latent leaf]

I forgot to hyper train my urshifu but now I remembered

[torn parrot]

In the end I never got into reg I

I was too burnt out

But you know what

YOU BETTTER BELEIVE ILL BE HERE FOR POKEMON CHAMPIONS AND GEN 10

https://tenor.com/view/celebration-tuvigif-himouto-umaruchan-anime-gif-7399759

@strange fjord your always my goat

Stay king

[latent leaf]

Urshifu learns iron head?

[torn parrot]

@shadow wind you too Conner

I appreciate my friends @molten oasis @bold geode and also many others I forgot to mention

I can’t wait to play with you all again in the future

[molten oasis]

just not doing this format?

[torn parrot]

Yeah I’m hella burnt out on gen 9

[molten oasis]

fair

you were grinding lmao

[torn parrot]

I was DX

Super grinding
But it was a very fulfilling hobby

I’ll love to get into it next gen

How is your laddering going drago?

[dense latch]

keep killing it in tcgp 🔥

[torn parrot]

AND ERIK TOO

MY FRIEND

FUCK

your one of my best comp friends erik

https://tenor.com/view/emunene-emu-emu-otori-nene-nene-kusanagi-gif-13413589856794327035

[torn parrot]

Iv been enjoying pocket thus far

Even tho it is extremely less skill oriented of a game

[dense latch]

been trying to get into that too
im ub3 rn i think i just keep bricking so hard lmao

[torn parrot]

Oh yeah for real
I recommend playing something consistent like buzzwole, or guzzlord, darktina, silvally zera

[molten oasis]

okay

[torn parrot]

Bricking sucks ass

[molten oasis]

still a zacian enthusiast

[dense latch]

i've been on buzzwole and buzzwole just refuses to show up half the time

[molten oasis]

working on zac mirai volc rn

[dense latch]

also a skill issue kinda lol

[molten oasis]

i've come to not enjoy restricted formats much, i hate calyrex lol

[torn parrot]

Hell yeah that sounds like a lot of fun, I’m glad your still a Zac fan
Honestly reg I sounds like a blast

[molten oasis]

its, fine

you're welcome to try it out lol

[torn parrot]

Is it not a blast? Oh

[molten oasis]

imo its not like

[dense latch]

it's a mixed bag for most ppl

[molten oasis]

super fun, like its fun but theres downsides

[dense latch]

im having fun with quiver volc rn

[torn parrot]

I could either hate it or love it I think

Yus

[molten oasis]

feels restrictive building

[torn parrot]

that I probably wouldn’t like

[molten oasis]

less options than reg h

and very little room for error

thats also my opinion

[torn parrot]

😔 sounds kinda stressful lol

[molten oasis]

and you should get your own opinion by checking it out lol

if you even plan to

[torn parrot]

I might try it out before format ends

Buttt I dunno I’m kinda just looking forward to future stuff

[molten oasis]

fair

ZA should be hype

[latent leaf]

Weather wars jumpscare

[shadow wind]

Can’t believe I was almost forgotten about 😔

[solid frigate]

lol

[dense latch]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2383259937 confused as to what the idea behind this play was

[strange fjord]

You are truly the best player I've known. Hope to see you in gen 10 and in Champions! You are da Go-Goat.

[torn parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/kitsune-upload-anime-hug-girls-mitsuba-gif-26044881

I’ll be there with you guys!

[torn parrot]

Iv never seen anyone crush the ladder with baby mons like you do
It’s truly amazing

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/hsr-dance-silver-wolf-honkai-star-rail-silver-wolf-silver-wold-dance-gif-7339695114594521897

[latent leaf]

Rayquaza just needs 20 more speed

[prisma geyser]

Hey quick question

whats good pokemon for a rain team

[solid frigate]

why do i suddenly want to promote my blog

cuz its all about Kyogre and Rain-

[prisma geyser]

because i got kyogre ogerpon urshifuand lanturn(trust it work 🙏 )

i would want not to make it main mono

[left bobcat]

I don’t wanna

[solid frigate]

from my blog

[left bobcat]

WOOOOOOOOOOO

iron bundle LETS GOOOOOOOO

[prisma geyser]

rillaboom?

[solid frigate]

Kyogre+Rilla and Screens are NUTTY

[left bobcat]

LEFTOVERS GRASSY TERRAIN SCREENS KYOGRE

[solid frigate]

but i think its better if i let you take a look on the blog

[prisma geyser]

i just got that

[solid frigate]

https://torrentaegisvgc.wordpress.com/2025/06/11/depths-of-hoenns-waters-kyogre-guide/

[prisma geyser]

I do have thst space rillaboom

[left bobcat]

AQUA RING LEFTOVERS GRASSY TERRAIN DUAL GREENS PLUS INTIMIDATE

[prisma geyser]

ehy does it look like it wants to run my pockects

😭

[solid frigate]

because Kyogre is chill like that

[left bobcat]

Damn so kyogre LIKE DAT?

[prisma geyser]

omg

this is my laterns time to shine

BATON PASS LATERN WITH AQUA RING