competitive_discussion

[astral kelp]

thas crazy

[molten oasis]

too bad it is, not very aplicable

[astral kelp]

theres a few

:(

krookdile is weak to ice too

so weakness policy

[cyan smelt]

It's probably getting ohko by lance

[limber marsh]

whats the standard tera for rillaboom? just grass for more wood hammer stab?

[astral kelp]

wait theres not even a point in going weakness policy lmao

[next stump]

fire

[limber marsh]

gotcha, ty

[gentle crag]

backinthefrey has given 1 Gen Rep to mlbd

[chrome knot]

@next stump CC CIR cannot be a thing that I can wield 😭

[next stump]

LOL

[chrome knot]

having good notes here

[left bobcat]

Uhhhhh

Do my eyes deceive me

[rose quail]

Ability: Levitate  
Tera Type: Fairy  
EVs: 204 HP / 252 Def / 52 Spe  
Bold Nature  
IVs: 0 Atk  
- Rest  
- Sleep Talk  
- Calm Mind  
- Stored Power```

I got into pokemon recently and I enjoy making different sets. I was inspired by CroCune to make this one. I'm only 1100 SV OU but what do you think of this pokemon?

[next stump]

unfortunately there’s not many OU players here 😦 but it looks like a fun set to use

[dusky wyvern]

Cresselia sucks right now unfortunately

If you want a calm mind stored power user you could run espathra, it has speed boost and roost

Same typing

Oh you said OU not regulation G

[solid frigate]

Cress is still alright,its nothing too crazy

[dusky wyvern]

Its pretty awful, its NU

[solid frigate]

i mean in reg G-

[rose quail]

I wanna learn VGC too, I like Oranguru Instruct Trick Room with Specs Hatterene, Life Orb Sheer Force Sludge Wave Nidoking and Torkoal

[foggy lodge]

nidoking is

[dusky wyvern]

I don't know anything agout diubles

[foggy lodge]

not in the game

[solid frigate]

Nidoking isn't in this game but your Idea is not bad imo

[dusky wyvern]

Lol

[mighty stump]

Well

First recommendation would be to just be aware of the basics and start off with a rental

Understand what makes a doubles team click

[foggy lodge]

@solid frigate run a bo3

[dusky wyvern]

Just look up movesets on smogon and put pokemon that either synergizd with each other or can cover each others weaknesses

[solid frigate]

right now?

[foggy lodge]

i want to practice against Miraidn

[solid frigate]

alright

[foggy lodge]

if you can

[rose quail]

I was doing it in Sword yeah. So many cool synergies between pokemon and items and things, hard to fit everything I want, especially without 6 pokemon

[solid frigate]

Username:MorrisPXG456

[dusky wyvern]

Having less than 6 is actually really nice because it means shirter battles and easier to make teams

Yoj dont have to strategize as much for 3 or 4, just usually one simple central idea

[astral kelp]

wait what

oh im dumb nvm

[next stump]

shorter battles are the main reason doubles is the official competitive format

good point

[dusky wyvern]

I like 3v3 a lot more than doubles

[rose quail]

Does Copycat not copy Whirlwind?
I made a max speed jolteon with scarf and copycat so when people try to phaze me over hazards I can do it infinetly back to them

[molten oasis]

wrong mon man

[astral kelp]

realized a bit too late lmao

[limber marsh]

anyone wanna do some reg G matches on showdown?

sorry if theres a different channel i should be asking in

[next stump]

this is the right channel 🙂

[astral kelp]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2303522682

okay so x4 krook ddont do shit lmao

[limber marsh]

rip lol

[molten oasis]

nah im playing cursed forge

NO I QUIT OUT OF IT I WAS ALMOST AT 100 HOURS

[limber marsh]

cursed forge?

[molten oasis]

its a modding app on computers

i had it open and discord was tracking it

[solid frigate]

minecraft or different game?

[molten oasis]

minecraft usually

im waiting on ff16 to install

[solid frigate]

cool

i might download Lunar Client again for MC

[left bobcat]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2303532952

ogerpon BOP BOP BOP

[rain current]

Prob not the best place to ask this but I’m looking into getting into competitive Pokemon and am looking for good resources

Like where to start, where competitions happen at, where I can get better, etc etc

[next stump]

it’s a great place to ask! welcome

[left bobcat]

even a 4x resisted did over slightly over 50%

[next stump]

just so we’re on the same page, you’re wanting to play double battles (VGC) right?

[left bobcat]

ask away

well if its singles cant help there

[molten oasis]

are we in the month of people being interested in playing vgc? which is good i like seeing new people

[rain current]

Yeah it seems like doubles is the only thing VGC has right? Like there’s no competitive singles hosted by the Pokemon company?

[left bobcat]

thanks to me of course

[gentle crag]

l_delacruz__ has given 1 Gen Rep to drayagedrago

[left bobcat]

(im kidding)

[rain current]

It feels like Pokemon SV are the best Pokemon games to start being competitive in, easiest way to grind IVs, EVs, etc

[left bobcat]

hmmm true

[rain current]

Is there any battle tower adjacent system in SV? I can’t really figure out any way to train doubles in the game itself

[dense latch]

best practice you’ll get is in pokemon showdown

[rain current]

That’s the website yeah?

[rustic mountain]

ppl getting gifts from the holidays/new year

[dense latch]

yea

[rustic mountain]

prolly a newish wave of ppl interested now that vgc has gotten more popularized

[molten oasis]

thats a good point

[left bobcat]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2303535996-30avwedfyjujeso8ndkdno6att6turhpw

chat did I cook?

[rain current]

So beyond knowing the type chart by heart, how should I learn the meta?

[left bobcat]

really?

[rustic mountain]

its a guess

but it prolly holds some truth

[left bobcat]

yeah the meta is uh

interesting

[rustic mountain]

by playing urself, keeping up w/ irl tours and their results and watching other players

[rain current]

So grind Pokemon showdown until not bad

[rustic mountain]

i wouldnt say just grind. u have to grind with purpose for improvement

[rain current]

True

[left bobcat]

Yeah alat

[gentle crag]

Here is a list of all of the resources I find most helpful when playing/learning VGC:

https://www.vgcguide.com/ (Helpful website for basics and also to get your feet wet)

https://www.pikalytics.com/ (Shows you usage data and helps you build Pokémon)

https://nerd-of-now.github.io/NCP-VGC-Damage-Calculator/ (Damage calculator that is very helpful when building teams or reflecting on games)

https://youtube.com/c/CybertronVGC (Best channel for daily VGC content, guiding you through the thought process you need for success)

https://victoryroadvgc.com/ (Tournament results, team reports and breakdowns, and rental codes can be found here)

https://twitter.com/VGCPastes - Tournament and high ranked teams

https://twitter.com/vgccorner - Helpful Twitter account that posts in-depth EV spreads and ideas about competitive pokemon

There are dozens of other resources, some of which are in the pinned messages of this channel. But these IMO are the best places to start absorbing knowledge and getting to a place where you're comfortable with VGC

mlbd (ID 197813560997314562)

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[left bobcat]

You gotta do alat

[rustic mountain]

tons of resources up above to check out ^

[left bobcat]

YouTube

[rain current]

Whoever posted that good looks

[rustic mountain]

its a lot in the beginning

[next stump]

yep correct, if you ever want to play in person events you have to play double battles

[rustic mountain]

i started with singles and i found doubles way more enjoyable

[rain current]

How often are irl events held

[left bobcat]

It be like that

I wanna try singles but idk

[rustic mountain]

pretty consistently throughout the year but they are all over

[dense latch]

i’ve been trying out singles but only other metagames

almost any ability is legit really fun

[rustic mountain]

and it depends on the level of event, theres locals, regionals then internats, all becoming increasingly more difficult to do well in and the points that you can gain are reflective of such

i was doin randbats a bunch of months back was closing in on top 500 then just got bored

[rain current]

Is there an ELO system with Pokemon showdown

[rustic mountain]

yea

[rain current]

Nice

[rustic mountain]

different ladders

[rain current]

Ladders meaning what

[rustic mountain]

like different formats have their own ladder

[left bobcat]

I’ve only tried singles but only for like specs bundle

[rain current]

I see

[rustic mountain]

different pools and rules and such

some are more popular then others

[rain current]

My follow up question was going to be which games have comps

[left bobcat]

Pools

[next stump]

depends what tier of event you’re talking about

[left bobcat]

Pool full of

[dense latch]

liquor?

[dense latch]

as in main line pokemon games? only scarlet and violet

[rain current]

I see, and how do the different regulations work?

[rustic mountain]

theres technically still a swsh ladder on cart but like nobody is really playing unofficial formats unless ur a singles player

[rain current]

Just different Pokemon allowed?

[dense latch]

yea

[rustic mountain]

yep usually just increases in power level

[dense latch]

shifts every few months

[rustic mountain]

starts regional dex then u eventually wind up on nat dex where legends are allowed then restricteds come into play

[next stump]

https://www.pokedata.ovh/events/

if you want to check for local events, check here

by far one of the most enjoyable ways to play the game

[left bobcat]

GASP

There are children here

Pool full of apple juice

[dense latch]

my bad ):

[left bobcat]

My good

[placid mist]

Dude when do you stop seeing stupid teams on ladder

on bo3

[next stump]

probably like 1400-1500

[placid mist]

really

😔

[next stump]

ye in my experience

[placid mist]

I hate playing weird teams cause i never know what to do

im almost to 1300 hopefully it stops

[next stump]

i feel that, you can always send replays here with questions

[placid mist]

Cool

[left bobcat]

Yeah

Totally cool just like me 😎

Man the way Wolfey pronounces conkeldurr is kinda funny

[limber marsh]

still down for reg G games on showdown if anyone wants to play

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2303559924 ngl this felt like a perfectly navigated trick room

[dusky wyvern]

Im killing it in online

My only loss so far is from clicking quiver dance instead of flamethrower becauses I was brushing my teeth

[limber marsh]

showdown?

[dusky wyvern]

Bss

But I just got destroyed 0-3 in beginner tier

[limber marsh]

ah rip

[marsh snow]

How would you build a sturdy physical attacker umbreon? Gen9.
Not for winning anything, I just figure the residents here have a vast knowledge of things that work.

Toxic foul play protect moonlight is cool but not very fun.

[tiny karma]

Umbreon's moveset:

Physical Moves

Assurance, Bide, Bite, Body Slam, Covet, Crunch, Cut, Dig, Double Kick, Double-Edge, Facade, Feint Attack, Flail, Foul Play, Frustration, Giga Impact, Headbutt, Iron Tail, Lash Out, Last Resort, Natural Gift, Pay Day, Payback, Pursuit, Quick Attack, Rage, Retaliate, Return, Secret Power, Skull Bash, Sucker Punch, Tackle, Take Down, Thief, Throat Chop, Trailblaze

Special Moves

Alluring Voice, Dark Pulse, Dream Eater, Echoed Voice, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Hyper Voice, Mud-Slap, Psychic, Round, Shadow Ball, Snarl, Snore, Stored Power, Swift, Synchronoise, Tera Blast, Trump Card, Weather Ball, Zap Cannon

Status Moves

Attract, Baby-Doll Eyes, Baton Pass, Calm Mind, Captivate, Celebrate, Charm, Confide, Confuse Ray, Copycat, Curse, Detect, Double Team, Endure, Fake Tears, Flash, Focus Energy, Growl, Guard Swap, Heal Bell, Helping Hand, Laser Focus, Light Screen, Mean Look, Mimic, Moonlight, Nightmare, Protect, Psych Up, Rain Dance, Reflect, Refresh, Rest, Roar, Sand Attack, Scary Face, Screech, Sing, Skill Swap, Sleep Talk, Snatch, Spite, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Tail Whip, Taunt, Thunder Wave, Tickle, Torment, Toxic, Wish, Wonder Room, Work Up, Yawn

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Umbreon.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[molten oasis]

throat chop sucker punch

coverage move/utility move protect

[cyan smelt]

Snarl

Yawn

Oh right physical

[rain current]

In SV is there any way to buy berries that lower the EVs?

[marsh snow]

I guess yawn would give time for lowering defense for a hit?

[cyan smelt]

Yawn either forces a switch or forces them to stay in and take at least a turn of sleep

[marsh snow]

Too bad it doesn't get zen headbutt or skull smash. Power herb skull smash could be fun.

[cyan smelt]

Yawn can give you momentum or take away your opponent's momentum

[limber marsh]

do people run choice scarf urshifu?

[cyan smelt]

Yes

[limber marsh]

i just had my 205 speed flutter get outsped by urshifu lol

[mighty stump]

Choice Scarf is one of the standard items for Urshifu

[limber marsh]

huh, ive like never run into it before

[placid mist]

Bro i was so close to 1300 and then i lost 2 sets now im at 1240

I wanna die

[dusky wyvern]

7-3 now

My focus sash chien pao lead got off 3 swords dances without getting nit and the guy left

10-3

[torn parrot]

You’ll live king

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 197: Umbreon

Type

Dark

Abilities

Synchronize, Inner Focus (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

95/65/110/60/130/65

Total

525

Sableye version 4.28.1

[trim hound]

Foul Play, 3 Support buttons

65 Atk is fucking trash

[torn parrot]

Guys

It’s spiderman time

https://tenor.com/view/yfnsm-your-friendly-neighborhood-spider-man-thats-me-spider-man-homemade-suit-gif-4723133544656971773

[cyan smelt]

how long has terapagos had a 3d model?

[molten oasis]

missioned failed successfully once again

[torn parrot]

!!!!

3D MODELLL

can you send a terapagos replay

[cyan smelt]

I don't have one but I've seen a few games with terapagos and it's got a 3d model now

[molten oasis]

Oh cool

[real prairie]

Morning

[molten oasis]

Morning

[torn parrot]

Any terapagos players?

[cyan smelt]

Where morris

[torn parrot]

I want pizza

That’s an order

):< I havnt had pizza in 2 weeks

[molten oasis]

If I could send you pizza I would

[real prairie]

id get some ordered from my dads but i feel you are outside the delivery range @torn parrot

[torn parrot]

What the

That looks delicious af

I wish

[astral kelp]

this won a tournament??

choice banda arc 0_0\

oh waiot this was reg f

[mighty stump]

HO or Balance

[patent marsh]

yea last year :sitt:

[patent marsh]

https://youtu.be/RffsS45X0xQ

[torn parrot]

Oh I just wanted to see it’s showdown 3D model lol

I personally like the idea of Specs terapagos the mostest

[torn parrot]

This takes me back

[astral kelp]

sheer cold is crazy

[torn parrot]

Yeah crazy times

[patent marsh]

to be fair this wasn't the only ohko move mon going around

we had a time where tinglu was spamming one too

[next stump]

he used sheer cold on stream which was fun

[plain drum]

[astral kelp]

HEHEHEHE

[chrome knot]

ohhh you are the cancer that infects the purity of vgc ladder

[woven pelican]

Jesus christ

[next stump]

48 hours until EUIC stream

[chrome knot]

?

[chrome knot]

save me euic stream save me

[woven pelican]

No i was looking at that screenshot

[woven pelican]

This screenshot specifically

[torn parrot]

By utilizing black holes we can fast forward through time

But not the past

[chrome knot]

makes sense to me

[left bobcat]

Go play

[astral kelp]

ASHAHAHAHA

bro missed smh

[chrome knot]

beans

[tranquil kraken]

amazing

[real prairie]

toast on beans

[solid frigate]

i need this breakfast

But remove somee beans cuz thats too much

[real prairie]

ima be the controversial brit here, i don't like beans lol

doesn't mean i stick up for the US hating on it, but i personally don't eat them

[limber marsh]

actually gonna kms myself

[real prairie]

ooof

but respect their name

[chrome knot]

mogged by lotad

[limber marsh]

and that was after eternatus 1v3'd groudon ogerpon and raging bolt together

[solid frigate]

sggom by Datol

[sharp cobalt]

Jumpluff basef

[real prairie]

Speaking of breakfast foods

[sharp cobalt]

Looks British

[chrome knot]

LOL makes sense to me sorry girl

[real prairie]

Well he's in England

[sharp cobalt]

It says no ping

[balmy glen]

Welp I gave them a try at least. I don’t love em or hate em

Didn’t seem to mix well with the rest of the food I was eating idk

[real prairie]

Yeah not my cup of tea so to speak

[balmy glen]

Ye same

[sharp cobalt]

Beans are alright

[real prairie]

Beans on toast on their own is fine, a fry up is better without

Give me sausage, toast, sunny side up eggs, bacon, and a couple hash browns or some chips (fries)

[solid frigate]

man i need that breakfast

[sharp cobalt]

I don't like that one Dutch thing though

[sharp cobalt]

Yes please

[limber marsh]

just ran into fire punch/darkest lariat incin

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 308: Medicham

Types

Fighting/Psychic

Abilities

Pure Power, Telepathy (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

60/60/75/60/75/80

Total

410

Other Formes

Medicham-Mega

Sableye version 4.28.1

[tiny karma]

Ability: Pure Power

This Pokemon's Attack is doubled.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[real prairie]

is there a SpAtk equivalent of Pure Power / Huge Power?

[silk kernel]

Only thing i can think of is light orb on pikachu which doubles both its attack stats

[real prairie]

tis not a ability but TY

[silk kernel]

I know u just said equivalent, soz

[chrome knot]

an equivalent of two abilities would also have to be an ability i fear

[real prairie]

i suppose the short answer is "No"

[silk kernel]

There are pokemon that can swap abilities with another pokemon but i dk if that’s relevant

[real prairie]

only if one of them has the ability that doubles SpAtk

[silk kernel]

I mean something like drizzle kyogre makes water attacks 1.5x but thats banned in competitive

[real prairie]

i run drizzle kyogre in competitive 🤣

its literally my restricted

[silk kernel]

Oh is it, fairs

Kyogre is the goat

[real prairie]

Where did you get info on it being banned? bare in mind Smogon singles is not the same as VGC

[silk kernel]

Im just thinking ubers are generally banned in competitive but ive never actually played competitive.
Just going off championship rules

[real prairie]

yeah we are in Regulation G atm which is a 1x restricted format

[silk kernel]

That allow 1 uber?

[real prairie]

1 restricted mon from a list, not including mythicals

[chrome knot]

“ubers” 1 restricted & GS Cup format is usually the premiere format for end of games life cycle

[silk kernel]

Thats pretty cool

[graceful dune]

if you transfer a mon that you bred in sw/sh to sv will it get a tera type, and if it will can you change it?

[charred saddle]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2303832063
very interesting turns of event

[timber falcon]

Whats considered "good" offence these days?

as in the base stats

[real prairie]

120+ i guess

[trim hound]

Smogon is fraudulent

[trim hound]

120+ is a good rule of thumb

[charred saddle]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2303840427
i fucking hate love you palkia

[trim hound]

Palkia winning awards for being the best XCOM unit lmao

[dusky wyvern]

I started playing ranked last night and I ended up plsying like 30 matches

[mint void]

it gets one

and u can change it

[mint void]

VGC?

[torn parrot]

It’s okay you’ll live

[torn parrot]

I died

I passed away watching this

This is so hilarious

[torn parrot]

Holy

This is a king’s breakfast

[real prairie]

average builders breakfast lol

[dusky wyvern]

No I'm playing BSS

[graceful dune]

thanks

[gentle crag]

vukaasin has given 1 Gen Rep to lnk1603

[left bobcat]

Thanks

[dusky wyvern]

Moltres so good

[mint void]

mid

but wrong format anyway for most people here

[dusky wyvern]

Huh I didnt realize there was a wrong format to talk about

[mint void]

nono

just saying no one here really plays singles.

So finding answers to meta questions will be a lil rough

[dusky wyvern]

Must have forgotten the question mark

[left bobcat]

Must have

IT JUST HAS TO BE

[dusky wyvern]

Rayquaza is really underperforming as my restricted

[dense latch]

yea it’s a bad restricted

dragonite does a similar job and doesn’t take up your restricted slot

[dusky wyvern]

I do really need to train a dragonite

I was running sub dd zekrom and it worked great

[left bobcat]

Well it’s pretty bad

[dense latch]

that’s surprising

zekrom’s probably even worse normally

[left bobcat]

Normally

[dusky wyvern]

Thisis rank 8 lol

It's not master ball tier

[left bobcat]

Oh

Then that’s probably why

[next stump]

found on twitter, not mine

[chrome knot]

its so cute

[tranquil kraken]

man

i should start competing

[chrome knot]

luckily itll be the same for naic ^-^

[tranquil kraken]

place last

just for the goodies

[dusky wyvern]

They couldnt do a yeti water bottle or a nicer backpack

[chrome knot]

the backpack quality is always super nice

[next stump]

they finally learned how to do water bottle holders on the side

mesh is so much better than the shit they used for worlds 2023

[chrome knot]

[molten oasis]

i want that backpack so bad

WAIT THOSE CAN BE NAIC THINGS?

[next stump]

ye they probably will be

[left bobcat]

Probably

Will be

[chrome knot]

most likely will, euics pkmn centre was also naics

last year^

[molten oasis]

lets go

its the only event i can realistically go to

gonna run it back and totally day 2

[real prairie]

All of this stuff should be available in the shop

Which means it'll be on eBay probably tomorrow 🤣😭

[next stump]

yep hahaha

I remember how INSANE hawaii worlds was

literally 100+ people lining the street outside the venue selling stuff they just bought inside

[real prairie]

Thankfully London only does booked attendance and it's limited items per person

[heady onyx]

Zekrom worse ? In what world do you live in

[dense latch]

rayquaza at least has a niche

zekrom is d tier at best

[heady onyx]

wtf is this garbage talk

tiers ? zekrom is a fucking restricted

zekrom pawns like 98% of Pokemons in 1 v 1

for a competitive discussion you should do well to remind you on what competitive tierings is

[chrome knot]

(?)

[heady onyx]

people using tiers for no good reasons just irritates me

this Pokemon is B

[mint void]

its singles

Zekrom is solid in singles

[heady onyx]

you ask them why, it's not good enough for A tier but not bad enough for C tier

like genuinely people use tiers without thinking much

[mint void]

in a VGC world

[heady onyx]

i use stats for VGC, but tier rankings

[mint void]

if u dont state u are singles dont be surprised people disagree

[heady onyx]

1st time I hear that

[mint void]

Black Kyurem and Zekrom are bottom C tier

[heady onyx]

on what criteria are you ranking them

if you use blind tiers with me, it's gonna end poorly for you

you just discredited yourself a whole lot buddy

[mint void]

between restricted pokemon. Makes no sense to rank the restircted with normal mons

[heady onyx]

so you make no sense gotcha

[mint void]

?

lmao

[heady onyx]

you gave me no criteria

so you rank them out of your ass

[mint void]

?The criteria is based on hte conversation being how good a restricted is compared to another criteria

if u cant grasp context then idk what to tell u but then u might be the issue

[heady onyx]

so not even an actual tier list, you just wing the rating based on your mood

[molten oasis]

fun

[heady onyx]

that is very bad sorry

[molten oasis]

[mint void]

no based on how it is. Just look at tournament usage

[solid frigate]

its kinda not true

Zekrom is kinda hard to use when Competitions like Miraidon who does it way better and does not suffer Against Incin (Zekrom needs Clear Amulet)

If Zekrom is like that then Kyurem black is Worse

If you disagree then show me your own take on the tier list

[heady onyx]

i mean I'm looking at you rn

[mint void]

cba arguing with stupid people

[heady onyx]

I'm looking at someone who think using tiering ratings without any criteria is good thing

[mint void]

tf do u want my criteria to be?

[heady onyx]

And strongly believe it to be a good idea only to call me stupid

[mint void]

but stats

[solid frigate]

give me a Bowl of Popcorn

Is it Salty or Caramel?

[heady onyx]

something you can define before being asked about it normally

but you couldn't and you called me stupid

so you are a garbage tier player

[molten oasis]

i usually do buttered popcorn but caramel is gas

[mint void]

womp womp imma go cry

[solid frigate]

if you want to argue about Zekrom and Kyurem Black is good

What does it do that other restricteds or even regular Pokemon does not do?

[heady onyx]

im not the one making up tierings without criteria buddy

[solid frigate]

so true

[mint void]

cant even find it. thats how shit it is. Like I like Zekrom but it just inst good enough, Awkward speed tier. reliant on an item

fair bulk but that goes for all restricted. No good spread moves.

[real prairie]

What's with the toxicity in the chat this evening?

[mint void]

bro was disrespectful

I did it back

[real prairie]

Yeah I see, I'm asking Y, what's the need

[solid frigate]

Zekrom does Electric And Dragon type Attacks

Miraidon And Raging Bolt does that but better

Kyurem Black literally has a Skill issue over its Moveset and Item while being outclassed by BAXCALIBUR

[mint void]

Idk man. Hes just pissing me off and Im in a bad mood already. Just dont like people that cant argue and just tell me "no"

[real prairie]

I didn't mean you lol

[mint void]

Bro is saying im wrong cause im not giving him a criteria but he didnt give any thing himself.

[real prairie]

I don't blame a cat for scratching when it gets poked repeatedly

[mint void]

Well hes gone so w/e

[real prairie]

That was short-lived

[mint void]

I count that as a win

[solid frigate]

tbf i side with you cuz yeah

Plus no rebuttal on his own tier list is funny asf

[heady onyx]

You told me no and you couldn't argue... you do understand how ironic your very own comment is

[solid frigate]

You literally didn’t even show your own rebuttal on why these 2 are good

also hi Monke

[heady onyx]

you gonna argue that a restricted is a bad Mon

[bold geode]

Oh I see
It's you again
Wtf are we even arguing

[tranquil kraken]

Can we keep it civil in here please?

[solid frigate]

Zekrom is worse than Raging Bolt lmao

[heady onyx]

This is just stupid comparison

[bold geode]

Zekrom? We really arguing about this?

[heady onyx]

Do you guys do stupid comparison all the time here ?

[twin falcon]

So much for keeping it civil huh

[mint void]

I gave u reasons why zekrom isnt good while also providing stats

[molten oasis]

yes monke

[bold geode]

Man just
Why do I have to come in here always to dumb arguments, can we not just behave LMAO

[mint void]

idk what u want me to do? Go in game and slap zekrom myself?

[molten oasis]

we are indeed arguing about zekrom, a bad restrictd legendary

[bold geode]

Like mods are saying
Just behave

[molten oasis]

i am here to watch cuz its kinda funny

[heady onyx]

reasons with no explanation, go touch grass or something

[torn parrot]

Nah I also think people should give explanations for why they think a pokemon is bad

With zekrom
And kyurem it’s simply that they are pretty easily replaced by both normal pokemon and restricteds

[twin falcon]

last chance

[foggy lodge]

Stats are an explanation most of the time

[twin falcon]

keep it civil

[bold geode]

@twin falcon what if I get a little silly on the beat

[dense latch]

lmao wtf happened

[heady onyx]

i am keeping it civil, i didn't ask for idiots to contribute to the discussion trust me

[gentle crag]

🔇 Muted barbossavgc indefinitely

[tranquil kraken]

Man

[foggy lodge]

xd

[solid frigate]

LMFAO

[tranquil kraken]

Zekrom is so good

[bold geode]

Mods can I get silly on the beat

[tranquil kraken]

[mint void]

thats just not right

[tranquil kraken]

Link, drop it please

[solid frigate]

ili im sorry that we kinda stirred to this

[bold geode]

It's over, no more

[molten oasis]

im witht his guy

[bold geode]

Bro that's what I'm sayin

[torn parrot]

Oh there was stuff goin on

[mint void]

well hes muted so I guess

[tranquil kraken]

Exactly my point

[mint void]

I just would have liked to know what he wants

[tranquil kraken]

You wouldn't have found out :)

For the others, if someone comes in hardheaded with an opinion and doesn't knock it off, feel free to ping or DM any mod for damage control :)

[mint void]

I gave him everythign but the mons head

[torn parrot]

Well as a new player he was probably angry because he didn’t understand and took it out on others

[foggy lodge]

It's just a random person writing things to annoy others

[charred saddle]

also talking about kyurems

just made the teams with them recently

[molten oasis]

gladly

[foggy lodge]

It's already muted don't care too much about it

[solid frigate]

yeah new player with VGC on its name

So eh idk

[molten oasis]

kyurem white? kyurem white is really fun

[mint void]

yeah

[charred saddle]

black

[dense latch]

damn good luck with that

[molten oasis]

how did that go?

[charred saddle]

scale, ice throw thing and blast

[twin falcon]

You also called him stupid before so... avoid doing that in the future. Y'all can argue all you want about comp, just don't insult each other

[dense latch]

scale shot stuff might be fun

[charred saddle]

ass

[torn parrot]

💀

[molten oasis]

i figured lmao

[charred saddle]

i just dont like the dragon ice coverage

it feels so bad

[solid frigate]

honestly this chat is kinda like this and i really think it needs kinda change over how to treat people

[dense latch]

kyurem black is to baxcalibur what rayquaza is to dragonite

does that make sense

[molten oasis]

yea i think thatst true

[solid frigate]

yeah thats alr

[molten oasis]

i like kyurem white cuz you get the aditional fire coverage but kyurem black just kinda sucks

[mint void]

nah. Its over the top. But I usually dont do this. Its just that my man was rude before that a few times.

[faint quarry]

be the change you want to see and all that

[torn parrot]

Zekrom has to compete with two mons it sucks for him

[faint quarry]

regardless, drop the topic please

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/raging-bolt-pokemon-paradox-raikou-vgc-gif-17137987366850124151

[mint void]

Last thing: This basically sums up his mood the whole time.

[dense latch]

i was not expecting it to open like that lmao

[faint quarry]

there is no last thing.

[mint void]

couldnt have fit it better

[dense latch]

last thing should’ve been a long time ago

[mint void]

meaning its the last thing im gonna say abt it

[gentle crag]

🔇 Muted lnk1603 for 1 hour

[faint quarry]

when a mod says to drop it, you drop it

hope that helps

[bold geode]

Are we really

Damn guys I'm sorry

[charred saddle]

also helps that its a spA coverage and cant be intim

[molten oasis]

yep

[bold geode]

Mods i got a report
I wanna report Raika for being stinky

[dense latch]

give kyurem black defiant ‼️

[faint quarry]

@untold urchin your smelliness knows no bounds

[molten oasis]

ong fr lmao

[charred saddle]

https://pokepast.es/e8f9044fe3c8a5df

this is kinda fun tho

[torn parrot]

Dragon giraffe

[untold urchin]

I hope you know I can change my name so it looks like you’re pinging yourself

[dense latch]

i remember facing that comp so often when reg g ladder first came out

[dusky wyvern]

This guy just used a noivern with normal gem super fang against me

Am I being trolled

[faint quarry]

so can i

[bold geode]

Stinky

[untold urchin]

As if anyone would ever want to be me

[charred saddle]

is it time to be Wise_chat?

Koumus_chat has been done. time to be Wise guys

[bold geode]

Get Palkia away bro I have bad memories

[faint quarry]

for spite, i know no bounds

[tranquil kraken]

I'm on it

https://tenor.com/view/bruh-cat-sus-cat-tg-brakishkin-cat-shower-cat-gif-17992285488664033204

[bold geode]

Yeah
Also while you're on it could you check the status on Mickey's mission to eradicate the French?

[tranquil kraken]

Poor Mickey...

[charred saddle]

#competitive_discussion message

watch this

[gentle crag]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2303840427
i fucking hate love you palkia

abused1 (ID 1060975738678947880)

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Command triggered by abused1. Message from · Feb 19, 2025, 4:12 PM

[tranquil kraken]

He's stuck making a spreadsheet so he's procrastinating the greater good

anyone going to euic this weekend?

[charred saddle]

if you can pay for my travel expense and uh tour costs. ill go there

[bold geode]

So many misses

Did I ever show you my shit?

[charred saddle]

no and i dont wanna see ur literal shit

[bold geode]

Fr

[bold geode]

No no hold on
Lemme find my Palkia team

[solid frigate]

lol

[craggy dagger]

[bold geode]

https://pokepast.es/852a80abca0867a6

[bold geode]

Hai bestie

[charred saddle]

[solid frigate]

NOVA RETURNED

[charred saddle]

jestarrrrrrr

[solid frigate]

[bold geode]

But yeah no I deadass used Gravity cuz I was like bruh I ain't missing shit

[charred saddle]

i just dont like that sandy + palkia + ursa = rilla free estate

thats why i run peli + jugulis now

[solid frigate]

At least Palkia has a chance for Double restricted

[bold geode]

Bro I was working with garbage from the start, there was no turning back

[charred saddle]

kinda tempted on running hurricane in jug too but too unreliable outside rain

[bold geode]

Also it was made for Japanese ladder tour so

[craggy dagger]

hai everyone

[molten oasis]

for a sec i was like "youre a mod?"

then noticed the luvdisc

[left bobcat]

Mod WHERE?

[bold geode]

Mods?

[left bobcat]

Gotta run 🏃🏽💨

[craggy dagger]

fear meeeee

[tranquil kraken]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-asleep-post-pokemon-gif-27157098

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-laugh-cute-mewtwo-pokemon-gif-12369138657111889139

[dusky wyvern]

Nice dude I dint think they are all asleep actually

[molten oasis]

no you're too nice to be feared

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/himouto-umaru-chan-anime-umaru-doma-fear-me-cute-gif-17706006

[torn parrot]

Wait I can get a valentines name?

[tranquil kraken]

excellent choice

[real prairie]

Ludicolo seemed a little on the nose

[solid frigate]

She finally returned

[tranquil kraken]

Ludicolo is peak tho

[molten oasis]

omg doggy

[real prairie]

Call of Zacian

Wait I can do better

Call of Doggy

That'll do

[solid frigate]

Well you have seen the no.1 Ludi user in here that has a team that fucks shit up

[tranquil kraken]

What's the team

[real prairie]

Too sweet

[chrome knot]

wb stimky

[real prairie]

Might have seen it on James Baek channel yesterday

https://tenor.com/view/humble-brag-steve-martin-saturday-night-live-not-to-brag-what-can-i-say-gif-25067745

[solid frigate]

its in Rental team

[tranquil kraken]

I'm very much not invested in VGC

[torn parrot]

YAAAAA I GOT THE THING

[tranquil kraken]

#rental_teams

[real prairie]

Cute bunny got cuter

[real prairie]

Thanks bro x

[gentle crag]

oneofakindof has given 1 Gen Rep to morrispxg456

[tranquil kraken]

Once again, Ludicolo peak

You're a real one

[charred saddle]

maybe its time for you to try VGC

and use ceruledge

[tranquil kraken]

eviolite charcadet

[charred saddle]

[tiny karma]

Charcadet's moveset:

Physical Moves

Astonish, Facade, Flame Charge, Flare Blitz, Take Down

Special Moves

Clear Smog, Ember, Fire Blast, Fire Spin, Flamethrower, Heat Wave, Incinerate, Lava Plume, Night Shade, Overheat, Tera Blast

Status Moves

Celebrate, Confuse Ray, Destiny Bond, Disable, Endure, Helping Hand, Leer, Protect, Rest, Sleep Talk, Spite, Substitute, Sunny Day, Will-O-Wisp

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Charcadet.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[tranquil kraken]

and then Wolfe makes a video "top 10 WORST fire types" and charcadet is #1

[charred saddle]

destiny bond

[solid frigate]

i love how after bham the news talk meme fits us so well

[craggy dagger]

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 935: Charcadet

Type

Fire

Abilities

Flash Fire, Flame Body (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

40/50/40/50/40/35

Total

255

Sableye version 4.28.1

[molten oasis]

omg that mon is TRASH lmao

[tranquil kraken]

HEY

[chrome knot]

wHat

[molten oasis]

stats wise

its pretty awful

its a cool mon design wise

[tranquil kraken]

[dense latch]

it’s a switch in on urshifu trust

[molten oasis]

im sorry its just the facts lol

[tranquil kraken]

i agree lmao dw

[dense latch]

flame body makes it like a kamikaze little flame

[molten oasis]

i dont even think it could take one strike

[tranquil kraken]

true

[charred saddle]

thats why u have endure

[molten oasis]

ah yes endure

a move that hasnt worked well in vgc except the times armarouge was okay

[charred saddle]

i still remember my nightmare

surgingstrikes to weak armor endure armarouge
uturn to indeedee

fucking SPEEEEEEED armarouge

[dense latch]

252 Atk Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Charcadet on a critical hit: 162-198 (110.2 - 134.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

not that bad actually

[real prairie]

Only just over the 100% mark

I'd have expected 400%

[tranquil kraken]

ok I will use Substitute

eat shit Urshifu

[molten oasis]

the sub will break on the first strike and then you will die lmao

[real prairie]

It'll actually survive with tera grass I think 🤣

[charred saddle]

it uhh, goes to charcadet soon the sub breaks tho

[molten oasis]

lmao

[tranquil kraken]

ok erm

then I lose the tourney

but I get a goodie bag so it's ok

[molten oasis]

real

thats what the $70 entry fee is

the goodies

[charred saddle]

try to get top 8 ili. u get 100ish booster packs

[tranquil kraken]

$70 is worth it

[charred saddle]

free packs

[tranquil kraken]

ok I will get top 8

AND goodies

[molten oasis]

ik its like buying a triple a video game

[tranquil kraken]

me and Charcadet are going to be

IMMORTAL

[torn parrot]

New invincible in 12 hours

[real prairie]

It's absolutely not £70 worth of goodies though lol

[tranquil kraken]

eBay disagrees with you

[molten oasis]

i mean youre right lmao

[tranquil kraken]

[molten oasis]

but yea theres ebay

[real prairie]

But we move better than nothing

[molten oasis]

and also just being there is really fun

[plain drum]

Hi, when you win, give me your booster packs

[tranquil kraken]

[plain drum]

[molten oasis]

wait so do people that win vgc tournaments just have infinite pokemon cards?

[tranquil kraken]

Yes I'm just kidding about just participating for goodies, it really looks alot of fun to be at their events

I'm spectating in May!

Can't wait :)

[molten oasis]

thats awesome hope you enjoy it

[tranquil kraken]

tyyy

any of you went to Gofest?

[torn parrot]

I would get into regular tcg but iv seen the power creep that happens over there

[plain drum]

[tranquil kraken]

gofest was a blast too for me

[real prairie]

Omg I'm rich

[molten oasis]

pfff

[real prairie]

Off to buy an island

[tranquil kraken]

hahaha

[foggy lodge]

Real

[molten oasis]

tcg also costs so much money

[left bobcat]

Shooooot

[foggy lodge]

And like the greatest thing about the TCG is buying and

[molten oasis]

and luck

[real prairie]

I really wish to know who's cat this is IRL

[foggy lodge]

I don't have the money

[left bobcat]

Like how much money?

[torn parrot]

😭

[charred saddle]

number of booster you get based on how many players are competing

[molten oasis]

at least vgc is TOTALLY only $90

[plain drum]

Your first deck isn't really going to be that big of an investment

[molten oasis]

[charred saddle]

time for you to join too eni

[left bobcat]

Thought that was iron jug for a minute

[charred saddle]

to get boosters

[torn parrot]

Kinda wanna collect cards for fun tho

[molten oasis]

you get boosters for playing? i must day 2

i want booster packs

then i dont have to buy them

for that week

[real prairie]

Yeah, I didn't make day 2 though lol

[craggy dagger]

side events from bigger events usually give boosters iirc?

[molten oasis]

bummer

[molten oasis]

i dont know these things i went to NAIC one time and hardly watch regionals

[tranquil kraken]

not even prismatic evolutions smh

[molten oasis]

im still so annoyed they did NAIC in new orleans again

it smells so bad man

[real prairie]

That was a bummer

[plain drum]

There are counters to this tbf

[tranquil kraken]

dont they have good food there

[molten oasis]

they do

its also expensive

[tranquil kraken]

yeah i figure

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/NintendoLatam/status/1892295110534058001

Nintendo Latinoamérica (@NintendoLatam) on X

¡Hora de esconderse! ¿Dónde está Groudon? ¡Comparte una captura de pantalla cuando los encuentres! #PokemonScarletViolet

X · Feb 19, 2025, 7:28 PM

[tranquil kraken]

hahaha

[molten oasis]

lmfao

[tranquil kraken]

love that

[molten oasis]

that meme will never die and i am all here for it

[real prairie]

That's class

[foggy lodge]

Name things that had less cultural impact than that rowlet image

[solid frigate]

i only went to the previous two(Hoenn and Sinnoh)

[tranquil kraken]

i went to the one in london 2 years ago

[molten oasis]

lumineon

[real prairie]

I have some dangerous answers but I'll withhold ... I'll let people use their imagination

[solid frigate]

THEY DID THE MEME

[real prairie]

ME TOO

[solid frigate]

i think i got Shiny Dialga and Shiny Groudon during that time

[torn parrot]

HOWWW

[solid frigate]

seperate obv

[tranquil kraken]

[molten oasis]

still need to hunt kyogre

[foggy lodge]

@torn parrot

[molten oasis]

"im merging without looking!"

[real prairie]

I met Brandon tan that day, good day

[torn parrot]

I love shadow

[tranquil kraken]

oooo i didnt see him

but it was great fun!

london is cool too

[real prairie]

I hate it but ey

[tranquil kraken]

i even got my non-pokemon fan partner hooked

[solid frigate]

all Hail shadow

[real prairie]

But I was born there lol

[torn parrot]

How do you begin to counter 2 energy 200 damage

And then an attack that nukes the universe

[dense latch]

https://x.com/unironicpanda/status/1891981292473843870?s=46 i need this shirt so bad

justin (@unironicpanda) on X

euic 2025

X · Feb 18, 2025, 10:41 PM

[foggy lodge]

ME

[molten oasis]

lmfaooo

[solid frigate]

LMAO

[molten oasis]

i need the kyogre origin pulse edition

[torn parrot]

Poor John Cena

[plain drum]

Devolution decks are good at shutting it down because your opponent will be spending a lot of unnecessary rare candies, Mimikyu with Safeguard will make sure that switching it out sucks for them, and there was also a Manaphy from a dying Reg F that made sure your bench didn't melt

[real prairie]

Where?

[molten oasis]

i cant see him

[foggy lodge]

Is Justin just bringing the tang gang team again at EUIC?

[molten oasis]

i wouldnt be surprised

[solid frigate]

pls no i dont want to deal with it again-

[real prairie]

I mean whatever team he brings is a tang team I guess 😭🤣

[torn parrot]

Oh I’m just completely out of the loop

Tcg had reg letters?

[charred saddle]

prob not(?) since people will prob practice for it

[foggy lodge]

Yeah its hard

[charred saddle]

especially when the EVs are out

[plain drum]

Yes, legal cards in the standard format rotate

[torn parrot]

I didn’t even know there was a counter to evolving

[charred saddle]

like people know the speed and bulk

[real prairie]

Where do we think Wolfey finishes with Lugia?

[solid frigate]

unless your name is MDB

[real prairie]

Top 8?

[torn parrot]

I hope that tcg pocket never gets to this point where we have to counter evolving

[foggy lodge]

Also he is one of those players that bring a different team to every event and more when it just won a regional and is the #1 team of the format rn lol

[torn parrot]

I see I see

I wanna play tcg

[solid frigate]

blorb

[plain drum]

It's an entirely different world from Pocket just as a warning

[torn parrot]

Maybe I’ll keep my happy little pocket world

[dense latch]

probably something similar

[torn parrot]

I feel like tcg regionals would be so complicated to watch

I tried watching one but too many cards were being flung everywhere I couldn’t keep up didn’t know what anything did

[dense latch]

i tried to watch one and they’re really hard to follow lol

[foggy lodge]

I've tried to watch them

[plain drum]

That's why the judge is there tbf

You're legally required to keep the game as quick and smooth as possible

[foggy lodge]

I know a bit about TCG and the staples of the format because of my local scene but still

[real prairie]

Double blorb

[tranquil kraken]

cute plush (please be careful with posting kids in a large discord server)

[real prairie]

Valid

[tranquil kraken]

or anywhere on the internet for that matter

[placid mist]

Hello can someone help me?

[torn parrot]

Are you supposed to shuffle your own deck
Seems like you could cheat

[real prairie]

Yeah, indeed. Sick world unfortunately

[foggy lodge]

The opponent can usually like

How is this thing called

[tranquil kraken]

what's up diego

[torn parrot]

I know in casinos people can track their cards through practice

[real prairie]

I'd imagine you'd have to cut each others decks like in Yu-Gi-Oh

[torn parrot]

Yes king

[foggy lodge]

The opp can split the deck

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/blade-hsr-honkai-star-rail-sesame-cake-goma-pai-gif-14819484025251167313

[foggy lodge]

Anyways there has been cheating even in stream and its crazy

[placid mist]

Im using this team but im having doubts on Calyrex's speed stat. Right now i have minimum speed but im getting outsped by ammongus https://pokepast.es/27314a5c3a7db44f

[real prairie]

Inside or outside of TR?

[placid mist]

Outside of TR

[tranquil kraken]

someone please take over I will give the worst advice

[foggy lodge]

Ah

[dense latch]

that’s weird

[foggy lodge]

Yeah some amoonguss go like 4 evs

Usually sludge bomb Amoonguss

[placid mist]

opposing amongus is faster than me

[plain drum]

Iirc every time you shuffle your opponent is entitled to shuffle or cut behind you

[dense latch]

you could give your cir like 20 speed evs and adamant

[torn parrot]

It’s very reasonable not to go minimum speed honestly

[solid frigate]

its normal

[dense latch]

that’s what patrick connors did i think, pretty similar team to yours

[torn parrot]

I know erik has a lot of ice experience

[plain drum]

You just gotta make sure you're not doing it to stall

[solid frigate]

i run 31 EV Brave honestl cuz Min speed kinda fell out of Favour now

[placid mist]

Do you think i should invest more in speed ? Or in min speed fine for my team?

[solid frigate]

Calyrex-Ice @ Clear Amulet
Ability: As One (Glastrier)
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 196 HP / 248 Atk / 4 Def / 60 SpD
Brave Nature

• Glacial Lance
• High Horsepower
• Trick Room
• Protect

This should be fine imo

[real prairie]

Is it outspeeding you when trying to set TR or all the time? @placid mist

[torn parrot]

That makes sense tbh
Unless your literally like the slowest thing in the game I think it’s totally cool for your speed to be flexible

[real prairie]

Reminder TR has negative priority

[foggy lodge]

Morris that spread is for level 100

[placid mist]

No it's just faster than me

[torn parrot]

That way you can choose to only click trick room when you need it

[placid mist]

ik tr goes last

[real prairie]

Then I'll allow everyone else to give you some spreads

[dense latch]

https://pokepast.es/8ac3b247d71cfc76 you could try this cir spread

this is the pat connors team i was talking abt

[placid mist]

Is Tera fire fine on a rain team? Im worried about opposing urshifu cooking me

[solid frigate]

you could just change the Levels lmao

[foggy lodge]

248 is not usable

[dense latch]

the evs are unoptimized for level 50

[foggy lodge]

Tera grass is fine

You have pelipper so the fire weakness is less problematic

[solid frigate]

Calyrex-Ice @ Clear Amulet
Ability: As One (Glastrier)
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 196 HP / 232 Atk / 20 Def / 60 SpD
Brave Nature

• Glacial Lance
• High Horsepower
• Trick Room
• Protect

here i edited it

[placid mist]

Alright, I think this is good thanks

[gentle crag]

parrotlyc has given 1 Gen Rep to eriksp

[torn parrot]

Yeah peliper gives you the privelege of running tera grass easier

[dense latch]

232 evs doesn’t work either

236 would work

[torn parrot]

I prefer 231.67 evs

[solid frigate]

i lost my CIR spread in my old computer so bear with me ;-;

[foggy lodge]

I want a coffee

[dense latch]

it’s ok :))

[solid frigate]

i think i used to run 196 252 60

60 is on spd

[mint void]

free

idk the spread but

I usually had investment to live EDrift on Terrain

[foggy lodge]

ughhh i registered for a limitless tour and i don't want to play it anymore

[mint void]

unreg?

[foggy lodge]

It starts in 3 hours

[mint void]

drop out its not that deep

[foggy lodge]

Ig but like I want to practice

[mint void]

then play it

its fun

[foggy lodge]

Lowkey i feel bad because yesterday when i registered it was to practice and now i would feel lazy lol

In going to play it i need to learn lines with tang's team

I lead way too much Hearthflame CIR or Moon + another mon

[dense latch]

try lando ursh as a lead

[solid frigate]

252 SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Electro Drift vs. 196 HP / 60 SpD Calyrex-Ice in Electric Terrain: 174-205 (87 - 102.5%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO

Mine kinda lives one? if its Timid

[foggy lodge]

Another lead I've seen is CIR urshifu but mostly in the mirror

[dense latch]

i use lando ursh in the mirror usually

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2300954728 this was from a room tour i think

i just realized my opponent asked me what i do against tailwind water spout i feel bad now

[foggy lodge]

DUDE YES

Ngl i just get blown up by AV/mystic water Kyogre + tailwind

If they have a decent amount of speed its kinda joever

[dense latch]

ive tried roaring moon + ursh and get the kyogre KO asap

knock + surging did it most of the time when i ran the team

[foggy lodge]

What happens when you pop bomb into spiky shield

[dense latch]

only first hit

[foggy lodge]

Oh

It would be so funny if it kept hitting

[foggy lodge]

Hm

Makes sense

I was leading Urshifu roaring into Kyogre but not into Tornogre specifically

Makes sense

I'll make something to have more lines into some teams

Like a document or something

[dense latch]

i struggled a lot with csr balance i remember

[mint void]

yeah that sucks

[dense latch]

i couldn’t keep tailwind long enough to beat csr

[foggy lodge]

Against CSR balance i lead Roaring hearthflame i think and try to keep roaring alive the most

Like trying to push with tailwind in early game and then getting Hearthflame + CIR for TR mode later

[dense latch]

i tried gameplans for the team report honestly

the tangs dropped calyrex in that mu when they had will o wisp incin

[foggy lodge]

Ah yeah

Roaring Urshifu Landorus Hearthflame i guess

[dense latch]

yea

i’ve been trying a cir screens team but i realize i need a fast mode in my cir teams

[foggy lodge]

I like fast CIR

And my guess from early reg G was right let's gooo

I knew that tailwind CIR would be good

[dense latch]

i remember trying cir tailroom

me and my friend tried roaring moon then iron jugulis

[steep bone]

Is hisuian zoroark good for comp?

[dense latch]

in the current vgc format not really

[solid frigate]

in previous reg its solid

[steep bone]

I'm asking because I got a shiny alpha one from pla and idk if I should know anything before I hyper train it

It doesn't seem to be good for raid either so I might just leave it in a box

[mint void]

if ur team really needs it u can use it vs CSR

but its not good rn.

Im looking into hard TR CIR rn

[foggy lodge]

William Brown made top 8 with a cool hard TR team

[mint void]

cant have a bear

dont have it

ursa

[dusky wyvern]

Bear is really good against flutter mane

And s lot of people have flutter mane

[mint void]

@foggy lodge@dense latchyall going to any IRLs soon?

[mint void]

meh

not really great

like its matchup is ok but like nothing really that makes it a counter

Moonblast still hits hard and u cant return super effective hits urself

[solid frigate]

which bear tho

[dusky wyvern]

I'm running assault vest, moonblast doesn't do much and blood moon one shots

[foggy lodge]

Not really

Only a small local next weekend

And im still not sure of going

[dense latch]

locals are not a thing where i live i think

[dusky wyvern]

I need to figure out a groudon set for bss

[dense latch]

or they barely happen

[dusky wyvern]

I'm thinking specially defensive stealth rock griudon

[next stump]

that’s a shame, i wish locals were as consistent/popular as the TCG

[foggy lodge]

What if i create one of this things so you can come to my local

A HAIR FELL INTO MY COFFEE

im going bald

[left bobcat]

Motita cherry

[dense latch]

bet

[left bobcat]

b.e.t

[dense latch]

i’ll just scream my moves and ask my opponent to like cover their ears

[foggy lodge]

WIAKDKDKD

[dense latch]

oh there’s a local happening like walking distance

in three days i need a team

[foggy lodge]

Bring zekrom

No uhh

Use CIR it seems like the one you have most experience with

[dense latch]

it’s probably just gonna be tang team

or an eleki team

[foggy lodge]

Que risa hablar inglés cuando igual somos los únicos en el chat ahora lol

[dense latch]

jajajaj

[foggy lodge]

Eleki gaming

:gaming:

[dense latch]

i’ve started to love regieleki as a mon since i started using it

like one of my favorite pokemon

there’s no regieleki my beloved gif :((

[foggy lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/gangnam-style-abacate-regieleki-gif-25104996

[dense latch]

close enough

[foggy lodge]

Its always cool using niche mons

[mint void]

send me all elelki teams

[foggy lodge]

It was cool using roaring moon at the end of reg G 1

But now everyone uses it

[dense latch]

i miss being able to call it roaring mid

[rustic mountain]

y? its a cool mon

[next stump]

hell yeah have fun

[dusky wyvern]

I gotta beat sword sp and pla for those legendaries god damn

[molten oasis]

Do you hate roaring moon?

[dense latch]

no

[molten oasis]

Roaring moon is awesome

[dusky wyvern]

But also why are mythicals banned but you can use base 680 legendaries

[dense latch]

it just became funny at one point because me and my friend would keep saying it

[rustic mountain]

mythicals arent easy to obtain

[dusky wyvern]

They are if you buy all the games lol

[left bobcat]

FORTNITE

[foggy lodge]

mythicals were harder to get before

[rustic mountain]

in wat sense? like every pokemon game ever? i think uve answered ur own question. plus i think ud still miss out on quite a few as theres a handful that outside specific irl events or code distributions, are not actually available in those games