i need dinner
#competitive_discussion
spiral ridge
Wonder if they got dinner yet
dull ibex
It's aight
spiral ridge
nice
bold geode
1-2 in new season rn
I hate Garchomp and I hate Geezing
plain drum
Kid named Geezing
bold geode
WTF
WHY DOES D DARTS HIT THROUGH FUCKING WIDE GUARD 
plain drum
Yeah that
bold geode
I mean it hits both targets, technically it is?
bold geode
That's fucking hilarious
plain drum
Itās multi-strike yeah, not multi-target
bold geode
Bro I wish I knew that before
I was deadass scared this whole time to click Darts in front of a WG user
bold geode
Anyways that Galarian Weezing team I basically have to play my fucking ass off against
bold geode
I'm Vital Spirit Magmar but I might go Grass tera so I can tera and redirect Toedscruel stuff
Welp
Bye bye funny Tera Electric Magmar
plain drum
Fnuy
spiral ridge
I was deadass scared this whole time to click Darts in front of a WG user
Well imagine itās WG protect (who fucking knows why) the smart targeting would be into the WG and if they got blocked that would be silly
bold geode
It was a dumb idea thing I had for Rain
Basically Electabuzz good into Arch Peli, Magmar not
But the twins have literally identical bulk, so Tera Electric in that MU can turn it into a "Electabuzz" 
torn parrot
i want to watch all 9 seasons of the flash no matter how bad it is
mighty stump
I was deadass scared this whole time to click Darts in front of a WG user
I feel weāve had this discussion before
bold geode
I feel weāve had this discussion before
Probably
dull ibex
You know what would fix Pult/Sneasler
True!
dull ibex
weegeecee?
dull ibex
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2214190419 @mighty stump check this out lmao
solid frigate
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2214220547
Cooking something
mighty stump
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2214190419 <@2503867993634898...
Pretty ok, inefficient T3
dull ibex
Pretty ok, inefficient T3
what was my t3 play again?
ah I see
in hindsight I should doubled the p2
252+ Atk Sneasler Dire Claw vs. 140 HP / 252 Def Primarina: 144-170 (83.2 - 98.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
this calc makes me ascend to heaven
solid frigate
252+ Atk Sneasler Dire Claw vs. 140 HP / 252 Def Primarina: 144-170 (83.2 - 98....
What are the Primaās evs
is it for Rilla?
dull ibex
bulk
116+ Atk Rillaboom Wood Hammer vs. 140 HP / 252 Def Primarina in Grassy Terrain: 246-290 (142.1 - 167.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
solid frigate
Oh nvm
mighty stump
252+ Atk Sneasler Dire Claw vs. 140 HP / 252 Def Primarina: 144-170 (83.2 - 98....
yw
dull ibex
tofu I miss 2020 me
this is the first tailwind ho team on my twitter
this is how you can tell I was self taught
half this team is gimmicks lmao
solid frigate
my eyes.
chrome knot
tofu good mornjng
real prairie
tofu I miss 2020 me
female indeedee used to get expanding force?
dull ibex
Yes
real prairie
damn
dull ibex
Not as bad as it getting tr through
real prairie
did it only just get TR this game? lol
knotty mirage
Yeah it does because they screwed the raid moveset on indeedee
So both male and female get trick room on raid they eventually just decided to give the female trick room afterward
real prairie
and take away expanding force as a result
knotty mirage
Probably for the best support that can also nuke both mon is kinda horrifying
dull ibex
I mean indeedeed does not have THAT much special attakc
she would do good chip though which is super strong on a tr setter
vapid zinc
in XY, Banette with a Adamant Nature or Jolly is good, right?
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
chrome knot
ill let u decide yeah
vapid zinc
aight ty
real prairie
she would do good chip though which is super strong on a tr setter
or the ultimate psyspam imprison
dull ibex
fair ig
dull ibex
ladder update
244
about to be a bit higher
its interesting how fast a bloodmoon team crumples without bloodmoon
even double spore and psychic terrain couldn't slow down gambit
177
oops I think i just threw
peak is 177
craggy dagger
peak is 177
oooo nice nice
dull ibex
its alright
torn parrot
Are you on showdown or in game
torn parrot
Thatās horsey but still amazy
torn parrot
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2214465032
Pfft
Iāve heard of that strat
Bet it had weakness policy
Tera ghost
torn parrot
Basically Nuke+Nuke
Oh wait no it was life orb
solid frigate
Oh wait no it was life orb
huh
torn parrot
Oh you mean the dragapult
solid frigate
yea
solid frigate
same for me blind
dull ibex
Are you on showdown or in game
in game
torn parrot
Nice job!
dull ibex
but I do both
chrome knot
@torn parrot time to stress for a week :3
torn parrot
<@386594600464416780> time to stress for a week :3
Whyzzat?
solid frigate
time to change Fari into a fire type that has no intimidate
torn parrot
louisville next weekend
You got this I beleive in you and vivi
bold geode
Kinda liking Magmar
Wisp is pretty nice to have
Just gotta deal with Arch Peli kinda being a bit stronger into the redirector
Though we go Grass tera
dull ibex
Kinda liking Magmar
Wisp is pretty nice to have
Just gotta deal with Arch Peli ...
midmar
gottem
I want to do more sets on cart
bold geode
Weegeecee?
I'm actually eating lunch rn wait
Actually wait nah I probably won't be able nvm
dull ibex
Lmao
chrome knot
You got this I beleive in you and vivi
š„ŗ
molten oasis
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
real prairie
Whos signature is that?
chrome knot
Zarude i think
bold geode
Why is Ultra Ball Lowkey being a struggle rn
vapid drum
Could I get some advice on this OU team? I peaked around 1300. I changed EQ to HHP because Grassy Terrain. Also thinking about subbing Dengo completely? I struggle with stall, steel, and grass types
chrome knot
hi we play vgc
vapid drum
š¦
real prairie
maybe the chat needs renaming lol
as they are fair to ask under the grounds of "Competitive" lol
vapid drum
Could you at least rate the nicknames then š
real prairie
i would, but tbh i cant read them, can you paste the Pokepaste instead š
real prairie
that made me giggle, well done
missed a trick calling the singing queen "Beyonce"
vapid drum
Ooo that's true, not a bad idea. Changing queen to whoever the highest grossing female singer of this year is. Smart
real prairie
id have gone with either "Bad parent" or "big daddy" for Dragapult, the latter as a nod to the adam sandler movie
dense latch
my prim is called lauryn hill
giving it a female singer's name is always a good choice
real prairie
ill name mine "Sam Smith" š
id absolutely be calling my gholdengo "Mr Strings" though
real prairie
Should i start considering changes to my team based on this data or wait for more full data as this is quite a small sample?
foggy lodge
Damn I'm your worst MU lmao
me too lol
foggy lodge
Should i start considering changes to my team based on this data or wait for mor...
But yeah definetely you should be doing changes to your team if you have a bad a match up against probably one of the best archetypes of the reg lol
bold geode
Took me 19 games to get out of the Ultra Ball hell
19
Fucking
Games
And first Master Ball game is Toedscruel Weezing help I'm suffering
fleet cipher
Im having issue with annilihape, in general bit the moushold anni specifically. I have a palafin im considering dropping for a counter to those, but i cant think of what. Advice?
molten oasis
Should i start considering changes to my team based on this data or wait for mor...
Iām your worst mu LOL
Sneasler pult gambit rilla seems miserable
Whatās the team?
real prairie
Im having issue with annilihape, in general bit the moushold anni specifically. ...
I found Talonflame a very good lead against Annilhape, priorty brave bird
fleet cipher
That was one of my lines if thinking and i have one, but between follow me and tera fire, it never gets the job done
real prairie
Whatās the team?
real prairie
https://tenor.com/view/buzz-lightyear-gif-21327280
yeah its seems to be a trend lol
chrome knot
FUCK YOU GARCHOMP LMAO
idk dont be weak to ground/dragon
real prairie
https://pokepast.es/fa761d96dba2d635
my results thus far:
mighty stump
Should i start considering changes to my team based on this data or wait for mor...
Pick 50 relevant games
then judge from there
real prairie
Pick 50 **relevant** games
we keep pushing then šŖ
molten oasis
https://pokepast.es/fa761d96dba2d635
I donāt even wanna talk about the torterra
real prairie
I donāt even wanna talk about the torterra
its doing bits for me tbf lol
molten oasis
This team is awesome
bold geode
idk dont be weak to ground/dragon
Kinda hard when half your team is weak to Ground and the 4th has dogshit Def
Don't even talk about the Dragon Claw ones, that makes 4 that are weak
molten oasis
Uhm, yea I donāt, this, I donāt get what this team is trying to accomplish
chrome knot
Pick 50 **relevant** games
gm tofu
chrome knot
hi tired im Emma
molten oasis
Arenāt you always
molten oasis
Lmfao
chrome knot
and i think ive hit a final version of Vivillon w/ Kylan & Rishi
mighty stump
Unironically people are like āoh i always wante to be a vetā and I chose it on a damn whim
molten oasis
Welp, itās your job now
bold geode
Tofu why does Electabuzz and Magmar balance gotta be weak to Garchomp Talon
And why is there not a better Water type to slap on that shit than Prim
real prairie
Unironically people are like āoh i always wante to be a vetā and I chose it on a...
most of the people i know that wanted to be vets gave up when they found out how often they were just putting animals down
molten oasis
Tofu why does Electabuzz and Magmar balance gotta be weak to Garchomp Talon
And ...
Have you tried Tauros?
bold geode
Lmao
Tofu doesn't mind killing your pets guys
bold geode
Primarina feels like
Either alright or ass and there's no in between
molten oasis
real prairie
Honestly euthanasia is the easiest part of the job
we may need to have a discussion on your mental wellbeing at some stage or another my friend
mighty stump
Lmao
Tofu doesn't mind killing your pets guys
I donāt. Euthanasia is good medicine
chrome knot
whaaaa
mighty stump
Sparing further pain and suffering is easy
chrome knot
estrogen is good medicine
bold geode
Yeah Tofu
Now can you euthanize a pet for me
Her name is Emma
molten oasis
Primarina feels like
Either alright or ass and there's no in between
Whatās ur team?
bold geode
Whatās ur team?
Magmar balance
molten oasis
mighty stump
The difficult part is when you have a client with a pet who is clearly suffering and want to still ātryā
bold geode
You know what it is Drago
real prairie
I donāt. Euthanasia is good medicine
cyanide and happiness
molten oasis
PASTE
mighty stump
with irreversible damage
bold geode
Bruh
molten oasis
You know what it is Drago
No I donāt
bold geode
Bruh
chrome knot
Yeah Tofu
Now can you euthanize a pet for me
Her name is Emma
im not a pet.
molten oasis
mighty stump
I have nothing against owners who want to do their best for their pets
and I understand the rationale
Hardest part is letting go after all
real prairie
sometimes its just selfish at the end of the day
molten oasis
I donāt wanna see my pet suffer
bold geode
im not a pet.
Don't care, to the euthanizing room
mighty stump
Anyways I hope my patient hasnāt keeled overnight
real prairie
dog cant walk, cant eat, cant see or hear and cant shit without having a helping hand... its time to let go bro
bold geode
https://pokepast.es/fc281ca14a68e8a8
anyways Drago here lmao
mighty stump
Don't care, to the euthanizing room
To help you in this social interaction, you have offended Emma
bold geode
Ok
mighty stump
Lmao
bold geode
I'm sorry Emma, next step boom
Anyways Drago there's team
molten oasis
https://pokepast.es/fc281ca14a68e8a8
anyways Drago here lmao
See this is the power of clefable
mighty stump
I have trouble reading faces
real prairie
Poke-fans struggling with social queues, no never
molten oasis
Cuz you are so weak to that lead lol
bold geode
I have trouble reading
molten oasis
I have trouble reading
We play vgc who doesnāt
bold geode
See this is the power of clefable
But then Sneasler shall bend me over and then he shall do things that I can't talk about here
molten oasis
My team is 5/6 of those
I have clefable over magmar
I havenāt struggled too hard with sneasler
real prairie
But then Sneasler shall bend me over and then he shall do things that I can't ta...
tera steel clef š§
molten oasis
Pick your poison man
bold geode
Also Wisp is kinda pog in general but it's like
It's a MU I have to play around so fucking hard
real prairie
ill name mine "Sam Smith" š
nvm....
molten oasis
Iād rather be really weak to 1 Mon and try to play around it then lose to a lead that feels like an auto loss
bold geode
I genuinely can't figure out if Buzz or Magmar is better overall
molten oasis
Buzz
bold geode
It's mainly Chomp that's the issue
molten oasis
Redirection+pult probably does smth into that
bold geode
Talon just like adds to it cuz you know
Why not make it faster lmao
molten oasis
252+ Atk Choice Band Dragapult Helping Hand Phantom Force vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Garchomp: 187-222 (102.1 - 121.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Idt they run bulk yet
Could do that cuz then they canāt Tera to dodge darts
real prairie
on what turn do you use helping hand for phantom force...
bold geode
I can probably get it
Wisp helps a lot actually, it's just finding a way to do so
molten oasis
The turn it hits
real prairie
The turn it hits
would have thought it would fail, fair play
molten oasis
Coaching does but idt helping hand does
bold geode
Probably have to go Magmar and Rilla and go like super fucking passive into Talon Chomp
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
limber ivy
who wanna wun it?
molten oasis
Probably have to go Magmar and Rilla and go like super fucking passive into Talo...
If the garchomp protects t1 what do you do
bold geode
If the garchomp protects t1 what do you do
Cry like I always do
chrome knot
also garchomp plays with redirection
bold geode
Cry and maybe shit my pants idk
real prairie
Frosslass typing is amazing for Garchomp and Sneasler, but don't think its viable
cyan smelt
what about frosmoth
spiral ridge
FUCK YOU GARCHOMP LMAO
prim is good vs them
real prairie
what about frosmoth
neutral to fighing and poison, plus 4x weak to potential rockslide Garchomp
molten oasis
Frosmoth sucks lol
bold geode
See the problem is I'd put a tera on Prim that makes it not weak to Ground, but everything except for Flying is also weak to Flying lmao
Maybe Grass + Prim
Or Grass + Mar
My dumbass
cyan smelt
malamar?
bold geode
Y
cyan smelt
contrary superpower, neutral to fighting
real prairie
I liked Malamar when i was using it, but its super niche
it doesn't get stab, it struggles to set up without redirection
bold geode
contrary superpower, neutral to fighting
Nah fam
real prairie
it doesn't get stab, it struggles to set up without redirection
I had a LOT of fun with "Topsy-turvy" though
shits on donzo's
and bulk up ani-ape
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
mighty stump
also garchomp plays with redirection
Everything plays with redirection atp
molten oasis
Redirection is the name of the game
chrome knot
no we play PokƩmon Scarlet & PokƩmon Violet, close though!!
chrome knot
yup!!
craggy dagger
molten oasis
Holy shit youāre pink
foggy lodge
i lost to scarf Indeedee and Fissure dondozo i hate bo1
bold geode
Ok nvm Tantrum from Chomp onto my Prim is a 3HKO
real prairie
they threw that so hard https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024reghbo3-2214714724
real prairie
i lost to scarf Indeedee and Fissure dondozo i hate bo1
cart or SD?
chrome knot
<:RobinLurk:1220551545633112165>
hello Ms stinkity :3
craggy dagger
hello Ms stinkity :3
hi,,..,,,
chrome knot
why so many ā¦,,,..
torn parrot
Lots of smelly people aperently
chrome knot
youā¦
spiral ridge
chrome knot
YOU FOR SURE
molten oasis
Lots of smelly people aperently
Have you ever walked into a convention center
chrome knot
EUW omfg in Knoxville you had to walk past tcg
molten oasis
With an event obv
molten oasis
Yeaaaaa people donāt shower
spiral ridge
YOU FOR SURE
Take that back :(
molten oasis
And I do not get why
chrome knot
stinky girlll :3
chrome knot
And I do not get why
I DONT KNOW BUT ITS DISGUSTING
molten oasis
NAIC wasnāt too bad at least
spiral ridge
Are tcg players on MTG level?
molten oasis
I got lucky
chrome knot
IDRK
spiral ridge
stinky girlll :3
:(
molten oasis
NAIC wasnāt too bad at least
Well actually the convention center was better than the city
New Orleans stinks man
real prairie
And I do not get why
anxiety and depression limit both personal hygiene and social awareness
doesn't make it acceptable or pleasent
but its an excuse
real prairie
equally not hard to take 2 seconds to slap on deodorant or smother yourself in perfume, but doesn't stop them not even thinking about it š¤·
real prairie
Itās not that hard to take a 10 minute shower tho
molten oasis
Anyway imma go bully people with the bullshit brothers
foggy lodge
Itās not that hard to take a 10 minute shower tho
genuine question does anyone here can take a shower in just 5 minutes
real prairie
enjoy, im off to bed š Not to be a sappy cee u next tuesday but really appreciate being back in here after my time off, Im in a bit of a rutt atm and its a good distraction š¤ Night folks! TTFN
foggy lodge
i wouldn't trust someone that only takes 5 minutes to shower
molten oasis
āDoes anyone here can take a shower in just 5 minutesā?
real prairie
i wouldn't trust someone that only takes 5 minutes to shower
5 minutes is better than not at all lol
anyway, night
molten oasis
10-15 minutes is enough
foggy lodge
Yeah
chrome knot
no can do bucko
next stump
Twitter
spiral ridge
Yeah you can
chrome knot
no i cant
molten oasis
Emma abides by the rules of no takebacka
bold geode
EUW omfg in Knoxville you had to walk past tcg
Oh you know they haven't seen a shower head in years
bold geode
New Orleans stinks man
- You do realize New Orleans be a dirty city
- Nah bruh 5-10 minutes for shower
bold geode
genuine question does anyone here can take a shower in just 5 minutes
It's basically almost if not exactly a military shower lmao
You just get wet, lather up, rinse off, get out quick
It's not that weird
torn parrot
Yibbee yooboo
chrome knot
1. You do realize New Orleans be a dirty city
2. Nah bruh 5-10 minutes for showe...
1 hour shower :v
bold geode
Have fun paying that water bill :3
chrome knot
bwomp
craggy dagger
spiral ridge
rustic mountain
chrome knot
@spiral ridge clean girl >;(
spiral ridge
molten oasis
Kirby
bold geode
<a:FukingDies:694380769615020132>
Hai bestie
molten oasis
thin fjord
Hey yall. Im having a hard time getting TM227 for Alluring Voice. Its been a while since I played. I cant find Lacey. And I cant make the TM either. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
thin fjord
Its not available to craft tho.
chrome knot
shadow wind
1500 with Scovillian !(An alt this time)
chrome knot
ok
plain drum
it has the easiest craft recipe possibleā¦
They might not have beaten Lacey yet at all
thin fjord
They might not have beaten Lacey yet at all
I cant find Lacey at the coastal biome
chrome knot
have you beaten the game yet ā¦?
chrome knot
They might not have beaten Lacey yet at all
me when im gonna make a vgc team with 0 of pretty necessary post game content not complete :v
plain drum
I cant find Lacey at the coastal biome
If you have 50 BP take it to the desk in the Plaza
thin fjord
Im just looking for help jeez
thin fjord
If you have 50 BP take it to the desk in the Plaza
The desk lady said feel free to look around and get acquainted with our elite four team.
plain drum
Pinged you over in #sv_discussion
balmy glen
me when im gonna make a vgc team with 0 of pretty necessary post game content no...
Real
craggy dagger
me when im gonna make a vgc team with 0 of pretty necessary post game content no...
stop calling me out
mighty stump
it has the easiest craft recipe possibleā¦
Dude im always out of Scatterbug Powder for Protect TMs
LOL
rustic mountain
Dude im always out of Scatterbug Powder for Protect TMs
mood
i need to jus get a scatterbug outbreak and farm that shit
mighty stump
Ffs right
strange fjord
Psyduck gaming
molten oasis
Psyduck gaming
lowkey bullying
surreal echo
https://pokepast.es/2962fb574a72ab3a
Need some help deciding on a sixth member for my rain team. Also would appreciate any advice people might have on the other five members.
Preferably something that can be used inside trick room somewhat well, and can help against dragapult
i guess kingambit fits both of those right?
not sure how well it would fit though since i already have a dark and steel type
cyan smelt
Overqwil for haze and swift swim
cyan smelt
Only problem i'd say is chomp but you outspeed
cyan smelt
Overqwil has 170 base speed with swift swim
It's outspeeding everything except sneasler
real prairie
Overqwil has 170 base speed with swift swim
yeah its naughty
cyan smelt
Isn't sneasler 240 with unburden
surreal echo
i dunno, i can try some things out
surreal echo
Isn't sneasler 240 with unburden
unburden isn't super common on sneasler
if it is unburden then yeah i dont outspeed
cyan smelt
Poison touch ig
surreal echo
but yeah poison touch is usually better for mega status chance
cyan smelt
At least dire claw will be resisted I think
real prairie
Isn't sneasler 240 with unburden
adamament = 344, Jolly = 378
cyan smelt
And you've got icy wind for additional speed control
surreal echo
only issue with using maushold is that my team becomes too passive
i only have two offensive options at that point and both rely on rain
so it becomes essential to bring pelipper literally every game
real prairie
wide lens, technician, pop bomb Maushold is lethal
cyan smelt
I don't see how maushold fits on your team, maybe use clefable as redirector
surreal echo
wide lens, technician, pop bomb Maushold is lethal
if i'm using it to stamina proc i'd prefer to use friend guard to reduce dmg on arch
surreal echo
i'll still try it though
real prairie
I don't see how maushold fits on your team, maybe use clefable as redirector
it literally is the team that won Balitmore with Amoongus swapped out for Sinistchia lol
surreal echo
maybe i'm wrong
real prairie
if i'm using it to stamina proc i'd prefer to use friend guard to reduce dmg on ...
no need, stamina does that for you
surreal echo
it literally is the team that won Balitmore with Amoongus swapped out for Sinist...
yeah i just decided to swap in sinistcha to give me a better matchup into sneasler and ursaluna
plus add a slow mode to my team
cyan smelt
It's amazing how they turned a pretty crappy pokemon into a powerhouse lol
real prairie
plus add a slow mode to my team
or reverse TR
surreal echo
yeah
real prairie
It's amazing how they turned a pretty crappy pokemon into a powerhouse lol
I mean, pop bomb Maus was good i think back in Regulation 2, so no surprise it resurfaced in Reg H
cyan smelt
I meant duraludon > archaludon
real prairie
I meant duraludon > archaludon
Oooo yeah, making it a Pseudo was mad
cyan smelt
Even with resisted moves duraludon took heaps of damage if it was a special attack
real prairie
https://pokepast.es/2962fb574a72ab3a
Need some help deciding on a sixth member ...
that reminds me, id have more investment in SpDef on Arch
you have the assault vest, so put loads into it to basically super boost it, then you have stamina to boost Def making the bridge a tank
can thank @mighty stump for that nugget of wisdom, something he taught me 3 regulations ago š
gentle cragBOT
can thank <@250386799363489808> for that nugget of wisdom, something he taught m...
oneofakindof has given 1 Gen Rep to woodtofu
surreal echo
that reminds me, id have more investment in SpDef on Arch
will do, thanks.
gentle cragBOT
will do, thanks.
ammphibian has given 1 Gen Rep to oneofakindof
cyan smelt
And the annoying thing about arch is it's light for some reason so you can't low kick it
real prairie
yeah i don't get why the metal bridge is light
cyan smelt
I thought bridges were meant to be heavy
Ig it's a suspension bridge so it makes sense
real prairie
Like ape, so bulky
my guy died and came back unkillable
dull ibex
vc?
mighty stump
can thank <@250386799363489808> for that nugget of wisdom, something he taught m...
omg finally someone who remembers wat I yap about
dull ibex
omg finally someone who remembers wat I yap about
woah woah woah
solid frigate
lol
dull ibex
I remembered not to click sleep powder into grass types š
real prairie
omg finally someone who remembers wat I yap about
I try bro
real prairie
I remembered not to click sleep powder into grass types š
Wait what? That explains so much
dull ibex
I legitimately did it once
real prairie
its fine, yesterday I swapped out headlong rush for Earthquake in my grassy terrain team for 3 games and legitimately didn't know why it was so shit until one of my ops said in chat
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DAZ_PwyR6FI/?igsh=bDVoamJ1cnBwdW9k
Pokken really is a strange thing
solid frigate
still a thing
Why the fuck grassy terrain Nerfs EQ
that is still a thing i will rant about lol
real prairie
a nerf makes sense, the calibre of the nerd does not
dull ibex
its not that big of a nerf
quake is still around
also like yes it does.
ground is a pretty strong offensive type
solid frigate
you know
Just click Stomping Tantrum
dull ibex
or get terrain control
real prairie
you know
Just click Stomping Tantrum <:Nightmare_Smile:1271832773858033704>
lack of spread 
psyspam might genuinely be more viable now that so many people lead Insert redirection here + Sneasler
solid frigate
252 Atk Garchomp Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Bastiodon: 168-196 (100.5 - 117.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Garchomp Stomping Tantrum vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Bastiodon: 168-196 (100.5 - 117.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Actually,it does the same damage
solid frigate
I just use Bastiodon cuz why not
cyan smelt
what does it do though
solid frigate
what does it do though
IDBP
cyan smelt
oh right
solid frigate
have you ever seen the Defense Stats
solid frigate
I think most Bastiodon just run Tera Fighting but fair
real prairie
what do we think about Unburden power herb dig Sneasler as a counter to Magmar/Electabuzz? lol
cyan smelt
need to get back into reg h, but not sure what to run
cyan smelt
what's the meta like, is it still peli/arch or are there other archetypes
solid frigate
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regh-2215025145
What the Ass did i saw
solid frigate
what's the meta like, is it still peli/arch or are there other archetypes
Sneasler Pult is fun
cyan smelt
i think i might try the dirge and hoodra and grimm
real prairie
i was not fully conscious of some of these type triangles
cyan smelt
that's neat, i'm gonna save
foggy lodge
what is that
real prairie
type triangles, useful for making teams for coverage
mighty stump
i was not fully conscious of some of these type triangles
Mostly cause the type triangles that we have are established:
- Fire/Water/Grass = Starter core
- Steel/Dragon/Fairy = Fantasy core
- Dark/Fighting/Psychic
Mainly cause it also depends beyond how these types interact beyond the 3 types within the triangle
dull ibex
i was not fully conscious of some of these type triangles
tbh I would not use any of these consciously besides FWG
I think if you are intergrated a triangle it needs to really cover eachother, like the ones tofu mentioned
there is probably one last one with good coverage as well
dull ibex
Mostly cause the type triangles that we have are established:
- Fire/Water/Grass...
I just realized sneasler pult has nearly all three
foggy lodge
I think ghost steel fighting is also worth considering for a core
dull ibex
why?
real prairie
I think ghost steel fighting is also worth considering for a core
ghost has no bearing on steel
dull ibex
not arguing curious on the interact
dull ibex
ghost has no bearing on steel
steel has no bearing on dragon
foggy lodge
ghost steel fighting cover almost everything offensively
dull ibex
ghost steel fighting cover almost everything offensively
ig thats fair, but usually type circles aren't aiming to do that
foggy lodge
I used Gholdengo + Koraidon during reg G because Gholdengo hitted most things Koraidon couldn't
dull ibex
all of the ones mentioned are defensive
foggy lodge
As an example
dull ibex
I used Gholdengo + Koraidon during reg G because Gholdengo hitted most things Ko...
this is a core, not a type trio tbf
the type trios aren't aiming to be offensive
real prairie
steel has no bearing on dragon
dull ibex
https://tenor.com/view/speechless-nathan-fillion-castle-stumped-gif-5469000
I realized I think steel resists dragon huh
real prairie
it does
dull ibex
very funny screw up on my end
real prairie
i mean, you were right from an offensive perspective
almost more of a double team on Dragon than a triangle š¤£
dull ibex
but yeah I dont think offensive coverage really matters in these trios
wouldn't you use offensive cores instead
like sneasler pult cover eachother really really well so you pair them
some movesets also have near perfect coverage
real prairie
dull ibex
real lmao
it is worth noting outside of ice steel and fairy
dragon DUNKS on half the meta game
fairy is just busted offensively
and steel is busted defensively
cyan smelt
why is tinkaton so mid then
dull ibex
dragon is a beast in both iirc so its a pretty cool trio
im assuming I dont need to actually answer and its sarcasm?
cyan smelt
yes sarcasm
dull ibex
ok
actually someone legit might not know
tinkaton sucks because its statline is garbage
cyan smelt
75 base attack
dull ibex
they had to give it a garbage statline because gigaton and its typing are omega busted
cyan smelt
it's like mawile
dull ibex
if you want a really good example of an unnerfed tinkaton in concept, gen 8 zacian
im 98% sure they nerfed tink so hard because zacian was insane
cyan smelt
but no nerf for calyrex
dull ibex
yeah idk I think calyrex and the two sv legendaries are going to be gutted next gen
cyan smelt
i sure hope so
dull ibex
urshifu feels passively nerfed
or buffed?
no nvm im dumb its just as strong this gen
meanwhile zamazenta getting nerfed into being a meta threat
foggy lodge
the type trios aren't aiming to be offensive
It still has good defense sinergy
dull ibex
It still has good defense sinergy
I dont think its good enough to be a recognized trio
foggy lodge
i think its good but i don't really use it that often
foggy lodge
the times i have used it have been or unconsciously or just that the pokemon that i needed to cover another one's weaknesses happened to be of the two other type
cyan smelt
i need to look at usage stats before i attempt to build a team
foggy lodge
also if anyone knows about the circuit itself, what's the difference between a regional and a special event?
torn parrot
furret should have been given friend guard because it is a friend
furret protects its friends
chrome knot
foggy lodge
ain't no way its best ability is keen eye
cyan smelt
frisk is good for cts
foggy lodge
im checking dortmund's teams and is that a Dudunsparce team
real prairie
why is tinkaton so mid then
meh stats, with a Atk based signature with Meh Atk stat
cyan smelt
ursa bm has a similar thing going on but a busted signature move and ability
real prairie
meh stats, with a Atk based signature with Meh Atk stat
sorry i kept reading and realised sarcasm
foggy lodge
i don't get the point of Scyther here tbh
ok i guess is for the dual wingbeast's damage??
because it actually hits very hard compared to Flamigo's dual wingbeat
real prairie
might be a fan of this: https://youtu.be/si6A9DCvff8?si=ss5PsDWxFlJJZvH5
cyan smelt
idk should i just make a team and play some reg h on an alt
foggy lodge
yeah
real prairie
Reg H is literally throw some s*** together and see what sticks
cyan smelt
ik hoodra is the inferior steel/dragon type but i want to try it anyway
real prairie
im having a lot of fun with shell smash white herb Torterra for example, but its been s*** on a lot in here š¤£
cyan smelt
makes me want to try white herb shell smash polteageist
real prairie
could be fun, good type to counter Sneasler
foggy lodge
Twitter
real prairie
but it's a sp attacker sadge
tera fairy indeedee follow me
real prairie
https://x.com/supahsanti/status/1841321678128701747
i do like that there is a lore element to Sneaslers Unburden though, kinda funny
chrome knot
what
real prairie
he carries people around in Legends, puts them down hes faster
bold geode
Twitter
real prairie
So why run outrage at all š¤£
cyan smelt
what moves does electabuzz run
chrome knot
https://x.com/RealiztikVGC/status/1841616791027777818?t=ViBpjU5uJWtvlbI_3cgbAQ&s...
no bc nothing is gonna be fairy here and nothing kills so maybe thats the difference between a showdown noob and a showdown pro..
real prairie
what moves does electabuzz run
I run Follow me, Protect, Electroweb, Volt switch.
but the popular one is taunt over Volt switch
cyan smelt
alright i'm gonna test this team but it has no speed control
real prairie
thus elecroweb lol
cyan smelt
i feel like a noob again
chrome knot
parkour noobā¦
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
foggy lodge
https://pokepast.es/45f703ce38751ba2 ideas on how to continue?
cyan smelt
i am loving SD assurance gambit
real prairie
does clear amulet + defiant mean it just gets the boost or does it mean defiant doesn't activate?
real prairie
https://pokepast.es/45f703ce38751ba2 ideas on how to continue?
some sort of redirection
magmar/cleffable/Electabuzz are the popular ones atm
dull ibex
dollarmonke you should build me a magmar coward
bold geode
parkour noobā¦
Emma
Bestie
I swear the VGC community is like Internet Explorer or Facebook or something
This shit is 9 months old
bold geode
dollarmonke you should build me a magmar coward
NUH UH
chrome knot
Emma
Bestie
I swear the VGC community is like Internet Explorer or Facebook or s...
it exploded in tiktok
not vgc specifically
cyan smelt
lower ladder is hell
torn parrot
Itās alright
Just pick something that can blow through teams
Itās kinda like
Low ladder of hell because itās unpredictable right?
bold geode
it exploded in tiktok
LMAO
This shit grossing though
I blink and I'm fuckin halfway thru like why
bold geode
lower ladder is hell
Run Sneasler Pult
cyan smelt
i'd rather not, it's trash
torn parrot
What about dms
bold geode
You can share teams here, no need to be afraid
We'll play nice
torn parrot
Kk
cyan smelt
https://pokepast.es/4262cd2e86a195ff idk how to teambuild for this reg
craggy dagger
i question palafin but else it looks normal-
i have no clue what iām talking about lol
cyan smelt
what should i replace palafin with
rustic mountain
thats a steaming take
rustic mountain
what should i replace palafin with
a good water type
calm gulch
Cuz the server fucked up
cyan smelt
i meant my team is trash btw not pult sneasler
rustic mountain
ahhh
calm gulch
about to fuck up monke
rustic mountain
i mean id say ur team is jus a worse version of balance teams atm. look at dortmund and joinville teams and then look at urs. wat is it doing better/different then those pre existing teams
id say thats def an important reference to really see where the state of the meta is at and where ur teambuilding intention needs to derive from. otherwise ur jus throwing stuff at a wall w/o a rhyme or reason
cyan smelt
i'll have a look at some regional teams, i just threw together some mons i like
rustic mountain
i'll have a look at some regional teams, i just threw together some mons i like
not saying u necessarily have to jus yoink one but atleast to see what it is ur building generally to beat
cyan smelt
good plan and good advice ty
rustic mountain
torn parrot
https://pokepast.es/4262cd2e86a195ff idk how to teambuild for this reg
If you sucker > assurance suddenly your kingambit will dominate
Priority is kind of the thing that makes him so terrifying
torn parrot
It was probably more offensive but one time I one shot an archaludon with tera dark +2 sucker punch
cyan smelt
that's truly scary
molten oasis
Heās ready to bully you anyway tho
calm gulch
Wow I didn't even bully you today
iām a fast boy
real prairie
If you sucker > assurance suddenly your kingambit will dominate
could you not drop Cleave and have assurance + Sucker
bold geode
could you not drop Cleave and have assurance + Sucker
Kowtow better
Assurance should be on like non SD sets
real prairie
i mean, if you arent sucker punching, cant see a time Kowtow hits before you get hit
but i guess it assumes you actually get hit
oh wait
assurance doubles if the target has already taken damage, not if you have.
yeah, Kowtow >
means you basically have to either double into something or use a spread move, not worth
cyan smelt
oh i thought it was if gambit had taken damage
molten oasis
<:CatStare:892867156096712774>
bold geode
Anyways if anyone needs this idiot, I'll be working on a team report
And resisting the urge to watch more parkour civilization
real prairie
Anyways if anyone needs this idiot, I'll be working on a team report
Can't tell if you are calling me or yourself an idiot. If its me, Fair. if its you, stop beating yourself up š
bold geode
Nah I'm a fuckin dumbass
torn parrot
somber drum
Yes
molten oasis
Twitter
The amount of money fluttermane has made in a single gen is insane
Hands and pao as well ig
solid frigate
what did i witness
chrome knot
NEED
rustic mountain
The amount of money fluttermane has made in a single gen is insane
yea i saw this yday, crazy shit haha
shifu and rilla as well even hands being so high up but so new to vgc
most of the top earners are new gen 
shroom, torn and arcanine holding out hope for the older gens
molten oasis
New gen power creep is nuts
rustic mountain
i think overall prizing has gone up too right?
next stump
A decent part of the new gen pokemon making so much money is the prizing amount too
yes
rustic mountain
also kinda skews it in newer gens favor
rustic mountain
yea makes a lot of sense then
id imagine a few of the new gen would b there but if prizing was the same throughout itd a lot different
next stump
It would take so many hours but Iād love to see the adjusted numbers given the modern payouts
Amoonguss might be #1 since itās so old
rustic mountain
yea it has to be
its been consistently good since its introduction
id be surprised if it was anything else
rustic mountain
over half a mill first gen its allowed? yea for sure
dense latch
shifu and rilla as well even hands being so high up but so new to vgc
especially considering that most of swsh vgc was cancelled
molten oasis
Damn dude like, Sneas pult rilla Prima gambit feels so strong
Iāve just been climbing lol
torn parrot
Iāve just been climbing lol
hell yeah where you at
torn parrot
nice job!! that's really awesome
molten oasis
Wow itās almost like not torturing myself to use niche shit is fun 
Where is my fucking food man
torn parrot
when youve climbed the ladder a million times sometimes you just need to keep yourself entertained and not bored
i think that's where people turn to niche shit
dull ibex
try magmar or electabuzz
molten oasis
Iām debating between the 2
dull ibex
well whats the team?
molten oasis
well whats the team?
dull ibex
magmar
it redirects wisp from your psychical threats, redirects fire moves from gambit, packs wisp for their threats
overheat is bonkers into super effectives
https://pokepast.es/f802b010ee202553 this my version
molten oasis
Alr
dull ibex
elctabuzz is good as well
pastel blade
Is gholdengo immune to your own life dew and hospitality?
molten oasis
https://pokepast.es/f802b010ee202553 this my version
Howās the rain mu?
molten oasis
Is gholdengo immune to your own life dew and hospitality?
I donāt believe so
dull ibex
Howās the rain mu?
I just ohko arch
molten oasis
Alr
molten oasis
It proves I donāt suck lol
chrome knot
tree im back to square 1
foggy lodge
chrome knot
i dont know what the louisville call is rn
molten oasis
https://youtu.be/Z1UhMtbdaGE?si=i1zITWvElbZ_EPQg
Donāt, donāt give me hope
I feel like chomp a9 has to play with that comp
Idt anything else really works
dull ibex
gen9vgc2024regh 1401 48.6% 1490 Ā± 25 273 265 lets go
molten oasis
ice beam blizzard and freeze dry lol
dull ibex
I seriously think you should try this team drago
you've been trying to make it work, if this works for good players maybe you can make it work as well
real prairie
i just had someone use loaded dice water shurriken grenija to set up stamina on Arch
molten oasis
you've been trying to make it work, if this works for good players maybe you can...
i mean sure
i dont like dnite very much but the team looks fun, although im enjoying what i have rn
rustic mountain
tree im back to square 1
too much meta development for the team to stay consistent?
chrome knot
i just donāt know what to play
rustic mountain
i thought u were liking p2 ursa, seems like its generally still good from wat ive seen
chrome knot
no i dropped that long ago
rustic mountain
wat hav u been on recently
chrome knot
for vivi garchomp & friends, built with 2 others in which we got t8,t4 in a michigan cup
rustic mountain
oh right
chrome knot
now nothing feels right and idfk why
rustic mountain
grats on the finish
rustic mountain
well sometimes ppl get busy if theyve practiced w. u b4 i dont see why they wouldnt again. and in terms of finding ur team jus stick w/ it, keep trying stuff out. sometimes the funk kinda clouds decisions that then it spirals wen u keep losing maybe take a day off and go at it again 2mw w. a clearer head
rustic mountain
ive seen ppl switch w. less time. jus pick up things that seem good and go from there
solid frigate
i think its just every format
like If you think this Team is not good on Meta/Does not Click/weird to Use
Just switch to something else
zinc totem
i've returned fiddling azu team again. 
(some suggested changes buddy of mine gave https://pokepast.es/a0c820b59d55d5db ) friend said that i should start consider fast psyspam with weather control in team building as azumarill doesnt seem to be able beat atleast when he uses it against fast psyspam (delphox outspeeds). (original team https://pokepast.es/2b44ec0145a40281 )
torn parrot
Lets goo
Dayum nice job!!!
Like holy shit
Thatās an incredible ratio
Should enter a tournament
molten oasis
probably
craggy dagger
you got infernape working whoa
bold geode
Yeah
At least working as good as I could
spiral ridge
Iāll try it later
torn parrot
pult lets me climb a lot
Only took you a million years to remember you like dragapult again
molten oasis
yea lol
bold tendon
can anyone change my Kommo-o's tera to fighting for an apriball or something?
torn parrot
Iām ngl
Iv been so addicted to pledge I kinda jsut want to make an entire team dedicated to pledge
Setting up swamp pledge and going crazy
I WANNA PLAY PLEDGE
I LOVE ITS FUN
rustic mountain
i played pledge for a bit a buncha weeks back
it was cool. seems pretty meh now tho i think it was only good cause of the chaos of a newer format
bold geode
Also it's weird I posted first rental team
bold geode
Iāll try it later
You shall now 
rustic mountain
can anyone change my Kommo-o's tera to fighting for an apriball or something?
we dont trade in this channel sorry better to try making a post in #1112832566261731328 or #trading_sv id jus be weary of ppl trynna scam look at rep and how long theyve been in the server in stuff before going thru w/ it
rustic mountain
pults cool
molten oasis
pults my third favorite mon lol
bold geode
Now that I've posted Infernape team, I can finally 100% focus on this Sneasler Pult shit lmao
rustic mountain
ur ur 3rd fav mon
molten oasis
i just kinda dont believe in it that much lol
bold geode
I'm my favorite idiot
molten oasis
but like, i had a hunch it was okay in restricted
bold geode
Nuh Uh
molten oasis
pao pult murdered a few legit teams
rustic mountain
i just kinda dont believe in it that much lol
pults good rn tho
molten oasis
i agree, i like it a lot rn
rustic mountain
also u saw a9 won joinville?
molten oasis
thats why im running it
bold geode
Drago we should VC and shit
molten oasis
i saw specs a9 somewhere
yeaaaa ok ik what team that is then, im kinda, not very interested
rustic mountain
specs a9 yea but 2nd place was sash it was a mirror
bold geode
Nuts
molten oasis
its a cool team, im just, meh
i dont like dnite very much and im kinda not feeling av gambit
rustic mountain
y
molten oasis
im also coping cuz i couldn't ever get it going lol
rustic mountain
ahh
molten oasis
but it feels like it HAS to run with that comp so im kinda annoyed
bold geode
Drago's favorite Z crystal
DRACOPIUM Z
molten oasis
š
rustic mountain
but it feels like it HAS to run with that comp so im kinda annoyed
its proven to be a very good 6 so yea haha
molten oasis
the innovation feels like its within the mons and im still just, ugh
rustic mountain
like u could run it on something else jus has to actually be as good or better
molten oasis
thats the hard part
making it on par is extremely difficult
so im just, you get where im frustrated im assuming?
got beaten to the punch and now there's not much that i can do with it
bullshit brothers has been fun at least
bold geode
Is bullshit brothers the redirectors or Sneasler Pult?
rustic mountain
accept some1 built a better a9 team and jus enjoy the time w/ it while its good?
sneasler pult im assuming
molten oasis
Is bullshit brothers the redirectors or Sneasler Pult?
snealser pult
molten oasis
accept some1 built a better a9 team and jus enjoy the time w/ it while its good?
i did, doesn't change how i feel
rustic mountain
winning doesnt care how u feel
bold geode
Ah
Well boys
Time to study these Sneasler Pult teams, post a post about them analyzing them, and then find a way to beat them lmao
rustic mountain
molten oasis
winning doesnt care how u feel
you've already seen i've perfomed better with bullshit brothers lmao
rustic mountain
fair
molten oasis
i like a9 chomp in the format theres just not a way i can see it working with a different comp so they can have fun with it lol
bold geode
Gonna be so fun
Fine tuning the archetype to my liking and then finding a team that can shit on the archetype will be so fun
molten oasis
i already threw in the towel im not picking it back up
rustic mountain
yea im def gna try that comp soon. ive been incin shrooming on a rain comp lately
jus beat a few 1700s earlier
molten oasis
nice
rustic mountain
bold geode
Actually unironically the big play is just Chomp centric stuff lmao
rustic mountain
some person said cool team after i beat em and im like
r u being sarcastic?
they werent
bold geode
No lmao
molten oasis
lmao
rustic mountain
Actually unironically the big play is just Chomp centric stuff lmao
yea its actually so good atm
clam was such bait
bold geode
But yeah Chomp does good into it, but I wonder if there's something else that can do good against Sneasler Pult comps
molten oasis
a9 lol
bold geode
ACTUALLY
Unironically Hoodra could be lmao
molten oasis
blizzard spam
rustic mountain
ppl jus realized hey lets build a team that punishes bringing rilla and lo and behold
rustic mountain
nd the fairy type makes dragon darts less appealing, u usually dont love that trade
molten oasis
yea
rustic mountain
if u opt to jus darts the partner who can potentially protect or switch to something to eat it like incin or shroom
that team doesnt have many protects but yea
bold geode
Like I fought a Sap Sipper Hoodra with IDBP and I genuinely was unable to break it
rustic mountain
lmao
molten oasis
im not playing hoodra
rustic mountain
yea thats jus a team check bruh haha
molten oasis
i like anti meta but imma enjoy the one time i like something meta
rustic mountain
maybe ull learn to love meta
bold geode
Um technically Kommo-O with help could
molten oasis
rustic mountain
u and csr can be friends in reg g 2.0
bold geode
But like if you want a simple quick answer, Garchomp fucks Sneasler Pult up a bit
foggy lodge
dont make me think about reg G
spiral ridge
You shall now <:Elmo:1079140534200844298>
Canāt sorry love
molten oasis
admittedly, i do like to win more, and i think i have the skill to do well, when i use not shit lol
rustic mountain
But like if you want a simple quick answer, Garchomp fucks Sneasler Pult up a bi...
idk darts hurts haha and if u tera steel they can cc to cover. i think it jus depends how they play it
molten oasis
a9 feels worse to me monke
rustic mountain
usually its overfocusing on chomp and u leave like specs a9 to clean house
molten oasis
you can get through chomp pretty easily
there was a brief period i played cir tree
cuz zacian would not click, and then the regional where it got 3rd happened
molten oasis
imma make zac pult work
foggy lodge
The team i made may be a hit or miss lol
foggy lodge
imma make zac pult work
support pult or offensive?
bold geode
Lmao
Oh hey I had to speak of this one match
So first time I see mirror with Buzz variant right
I go "oh hey I can practice mirror now"
Nope
Pult was Screens Curse Pult
foggy lodge
i suppose it also has Urshifu
foggy lodge
looks cool
when i was building with Zacian i felt that Urshifu was super necessary cuz it hits everything that is awkard to Zacian
but the best Zacian at worlds didn't use it lol
molten oasis
cuz zac drago is also pretty strong
bold geode
im jumping on sneas pult lmfao
Gonna do the rentals going around or you want a touch up? Got some worked around variants need of testing
chrome knot
who knew +2&+4 sucker punch kills the entire cast
bold geode
Lol
chrome knot
avg like 1.5 sds a game
bold geode
SD has never felt so ez
rustic mountain
im jumping on sneas pult lmfao
molten oasis
the bullshit brothers rise
shadow wind
1600 with Scovillian !! I wonder if this team could actually be somethin
mighty stump
my patient passed overnight and I am sadge
The only dog that made me question breed stereotypes for once
Also imma run Misty Terrain GWeezing
mighty stump
Beats Sneasler Pult if you add Incin next to ot
Force CC to come out
Use the SpDef drop to your advantage
Technically you can run NGas + Abol Shield Incin too but eh
I donāt feel like using NGas
torn parrot
The Misty does great into dire claw
mighty stump
yep
Sure youāre Neutral to Dire Claw but like you still get Intim holding a real item + -1
Terrain overwrite also good
mighty stump
Well I donāt think itās something you can slap on freely but you could try
cyan smelt
I think I'll keep my team the way it is for now, already got Grimm and prim
true niche
sneasler + dragapult bffs?
real prairie
is Snarl considered a sound based move?
cyan smelt
Yes
real prairie
Throat spray - Snarl Hydraegon anyone? lol