competitive_discussion

[spiral goblet]

I know, is there a better resource for those range calcs?

[nocturne holly]

I mean showdex shows the calcs on showdown with your sets and generic sets

But that’s all I know of

[spiral goblet]

Gotcha, ty

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 979: Annihilape

Types

Fighting/Ghost

Abilities

Vital Spirit, Inner Focus, Defiant (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

110/115/80/50/90/90

Total

535

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

Pokémon No. 892: Urshifu-Rapid-Strike

Types

Fighting/Water

Abilities

Unseen Fist

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/130/100/63/60/97

Total

550

Base Species

Urshifu

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[nocturne holly]

damn

252+ scarf annihilape outspeeds 252 scarf shifu

😡

[craggy dagger]

well yeah cause its 252+

[silver ravine]

Annihilape scares me. I never know if it's using final gambit or not

[foggy lodge]

Lol me too

My best play is

Idk grassy glide it so it can't use final gambit

The bad thing is that is normally only used in CIR hard TR teams so it comes with Farigiraf

[silver ravine]

Worse is tera normal Metagross using explosion

[nocturne holly]

Yea I figured that out lmao 😭

[solid frigate]

well technically Landorus

but this yeam is basically just do as much damage as possible and you can technically count Incin as check cuz knock off Intimidate stuff

[hollow rover]

Yeah

[solid frigate]

12 Atk Incineroar Flare Blitz vs. 188 HP / 92 Def Groudon in Sun: 84-99 (42.2 - 49.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

And Incin technically Benefited from Sun to do damage

[jade dust]

Don’t you use iron bundle?

[solid frigate]

Look at the team again

[jade dust]

That is a thread to Groudon

[jade dust]

Where

[solid frigate]

Rentals

[jade dust]

I think iron bundle would be a good addition to that team

But I support the using what you like if it has a purpose to be there

[solid frigate]

Iron Bundle is the 2 of the main Reason why Miraidon is in the Fraud Watch

[jade dust]

Fraud watch?

[solid frigate]

Yes

[jade dust]

What’s that

[solid frigate]

basically Mid Restricteds

[glad imp]

Like lugia and ho oh

[glad imp]

Thanks for the rental team it’s rlly fun to use

[gentle crag]

davidclimbs3 has given 1 Gen Rep to morrispxg456

[solid frigate]

thats not fraud watch,Fraud Watch is kinda like The Restricted is suppose to be good,But being mid in Early Meta

[glad imp]

Ah ok

[solid frigate]

i'm glad You enjoy it,but is there anything you don't like the team?

[glad imp]

Other than the lack of a true ground counter it’s really good

I played 9 matches and won 6 of them, the ones I lost felt more like me being an amateur than the team being bad

[solid frigate]

True,Since Groudon isn't being used too Much

[solid frigate]

its ok it happens,i lost with the team sometimes

[glad imp]

Lando is a little more common and ursaluna is Lowk everywhere

Although they have secondary types

[solid frigate]

I would say Lando is probably my own Counter against faster Restricteds,might use it in the next Format as well

[glad imp]

Do we know when that’s coming out?

[solid frigate]

would be annouced in August,start in September

[glad imp]

Ok cool

[jade dust]

Ah, well probably due those miraidons with tera fairy and dazzling gleam

And life orb

[solid frigate]

that and Iron Bundle is mid for Miraidon

[jade dust]

Well it’s very annoying icy wind spam

For non trick room teams it’s annoying

[glad imp]

Miraidon does have super effective discharge/electro drift/volt switch

For iron bundle

[solid frigate]

sigh.... Bundle is too Terrain Dependent

[jade dust]

It can run booster but then gives up sash

[molten oasis]

Iron mid

[solid frigate]

there are multiple iron lol

[molten oasis]

Iron midbundle

[jade dust]

All the future are iron lol

There are few exceptions like iron hands that are perfectly fine without boost

[modern harbor]

will next format be double restricted

[jade dust]

I believe there is only 3 formats per game

[modern harbor]

o

same format then

[solid frigate]

if you want to use Future Paradox Pokemon with Miraidon,use Hands,Juglius and even Crown is good in against Calyrex Ice

[solid frigate]

Next Format is most likely double restricteds

[jade dust]

I thought there were only 3 formats

Regional, national and restricted

[solid frigate]

there are fucking 7-

Those are just basic level

Reg A is Regionals Minus all Legendary and Paradox

Reg B adding Paradox

Reg C adding Treasures of Ruin

Reg D is National

Reg E and F are DLC

you could say they are Regulations

but i kinda just group them the same

[jade dust]

Reg are different yes

But I get the point

[chrome knot]

nova…

i bricked in tcg went 2-2 and was frustrated and took my meds

[nocturne holly]

Smooth

[molten oasis]

Shut

[bold geode]

DID YOU BREAK IT

[chrome knot]

eheh

[bold geode]

Emma

[chrome knot]

eheheheheh

[bold geode]

DAMN IT EMMA

You just tryna OD huh

[chrome knot]

yeah kill me please

[bold geode]

@craggy dagger 3 DAYS

[chrome knot]

NO DONT TELL HERRR

[nocturne holly]

I think 4 times the prescription you start to have symptoms or something

Or something that might just be ibuprofen

[chrome knot]

ok ill start doing the right dosage tomorrow…

[craggy dagger]

huh

[bold geode]

Emma no breaky pill

[chrome knot]

noooooo

dont expose me pls :(

[molten oasis]

You broke the pill again?

[nocturne holly]

didn’t break the pill

[chrome knot]

no i did the opposite

[nocturne holly]

does it have the slit thing down the middle

[chrome knot]

yes..

[mighty stump]

I’m just concerned about the health consequences

[chrome knot]

it doesnt BREAK

[nocturne holly]

…

[mighty stump]

Hormones are not sth I’d mess around with

[chrome knot]

if i wake up with significantly less testosterone

would not be mad tbh

[nocturne holly]

well if you od

You might not wake up😈

[mighty stump]

You could wake up with significantly less health too

[chrome knot]

what if i dont wake up

[mighty stump]

Same thing

0 health is significantly less than anything above it

[nocturne holly]

Just like use a focus sash or smth

[chrome knot]

id be so happy

[craggy dagger]

…

[plain drum]

Genuine advice for anyone reading: if you are taking scored medication and you are prescribed it according to said scoring (i.e. the pills are 100mg and your dosage is 50mg, so you cut them in half along the score), while the threat on your overall health depends on what you’re taking, you more than likely should adhere to that

[chrome knot]

what if i physically cant

[mighty stump]

Emma you have a butter knife somewhere

You can split a pill

[chrome knot]

I TRIED THE CREDIT CARD THING

IT WASNT WORKING

[mighty stump]

USE SOMETHING STURDIER

[chrome knot]

I WASNT HOME AND I GOT FRUSTRATED

[plain drum]

If there’s not someone who can immediately help you, look into getting a pill cutter. They make these in different shapes.

[chrome knot]

transphobic parents would NOT help me

as i am hiding medication atm lmao

[plain drum]

Otherwise do what Tofu said, knives often do the trick if your fingers can’t alone (assuming you’re able to hold the knife unfortunately)

[mighty stump]

Shouldnt like

A Walmart or Target have a pill cutter

or a pharmacy

[chrome knot]

isnt easily accessible im questioned every time i step foot out of my house >_<

[plain drum]

At this point just crunch the numbers. I can’t speak for hormones (I’m guessing) but for stuff like antibiotics people who are in this situation a lot of the time just hit the maximum recommended dose and are “fine”

[mighty stump]

its mainly to lower the risk of adverse reactions

[plain drum]

Indeed

[chrome knot]

im at +150mg than i should be rn

[plain drum]

That sounds a little high but it does depend on what you’re taking, best to look it up

[chrome knot]

across 3 days

uhh spironolactone

to decrease testosterone

[plain drum]

So the risk of taking too much of that that aside from common symptoms would be your potassium levels rising too high

[plain drum]

I can’t speak on it being in this time period

[nocturne holly]

eni space parrot researcher more like eni medication overdose researcher

[hollow rover]

can primarina go with kingambit

[plain drum]

Starting tablets for adults typically go up to a 100mg daily maximum however

Rest is between you and the provider

[chrome knot]

o no i just saying ive taken +50mg more across 3 days

as of today bc ive done it 3 days in a row

[plain drum]

Well, best of luck in being able to find a way to break your pills

[patent marsh]

[plain drum]

Sorry you’re in that situation

[chrome knot]

lol the situation is stupidity tbf

[plain drum]

Something for the comp kids that I’ve buried, my bad

[mighty stump]

In what context?

[hollow rover]

doubles reg g

[plain drum]

Also, Tofu a real one. Mad respect

[mighty stump]

For what purpose?

[plain drum]

Always

[patent marsh]

Do you not have a pill box you can divide your meds for the week?

[chrome knot]

nope

[hollow rover]

prim support gambit lead offense

[chrome knot]

i should get one tbf thatd be fun

[plain drum]

Something else I’d recommend is a small carrier for doses you know you’ll need to take away from home if applicable, otherwise get like an empty box of Icebreakers

[mighty stump]

If you’re talking in just pure coverage options, it’s meh into Amoonguss and as a lead opener its pretty low pressure into pretty much most of common leads at the moment

[patent marsh]

Ye my grandma had one of these before she passed on

[hollow rover]

alr cool, is there any better suggestions while still keeping kingambit kinda as the core of the team

[chrome knot]

aight gang bad news

vomit mode

[plain drum]

Was afraid of that

[chrome knot]

tummy hürt

[barren needle]

yo does anyone have a solar beam pokemon i can use on my snivy for solar beam

[patent marsh]

You can delete a move slot give it a mirror herb then go into a picnic and have another mon with solar beam to share it to the snivy

Amoonguss learns it

[nocturne holly]

Wait but when do you refill it

Like after you take one?

[patent marsh]

At the end of the week

You fill up everything for the next week

[spiral ridge]

cant just say going to target for ___ and get it aswell? are they so nosey theyd check reciept or something?

[chrome knot]

they would question it a million percent

especially since canada doesnt have target

[spiral ridge]

oh

lmao

hmm if you find a local store with it best i cay say is go for something like maybe a drink or just something random that makes sense to want, then buy it and if you really need get it on a seperate purchase so two reciepts

[chrome knot]

ig what you mean but yes they'd question everything

[spiral ridge]

:(
guess you gotta get convincing story or keep going up +50

[jade dust]

Why people don’t use hitmontop more? It has intimidate, fake out, coaching and wide guard

[bold geode]

Hi Tofu

[next stump]

good supportive move pool but it’s typing isn’t great and it doesn’t hit very hard at all

it definitely isn’t useless though

[jade dust]

Well yeah incineroar has significantly higher atk as well as being dark type

[next stump]

yeah it’s competition is mostly Incineroar, Pelipper, and Mienshao

all of which do at least parts of its job better than Hitmontop

[jade dust]

Mienshao doesn’t have intimidate but it’s immune to it

And has fake out, coaching and wide guard

[chrome knot]

https://pokepast.es/a294eb9dda17737b @next stump

[jade dust]

Oh and immune to fake out too

[next stump]

yeah this archtype is broken as fuck

15-1 on bo3 ladder with the original version

[chrome knot]

LOL

my goat

[next stump]

fedecampo may have cracked the CIR code

the only thing I am not confident in is the zamazenta matchup

[chrome knot]

that is why I have a fire pon

[next stump]

but it can’t be thattttt bad

yeah good point

idk what I would do, probably like Caly + Ursh lead

[chrome knot]

the mu might just be coach the fuck outta pon

cheer that bitch on

and EVENTUALLY it'll get there

UH LOOKS PMS

[next stump]

LOL very balanced

[balmy glen]

Most are tera dragon now

[chrome knot]

https://tenor.com/view/glastrier-gif-21054576

https://tenor.com/view/sandy-shocks-pokémon-scarlet-and-violet-indigo-disk-blueberry-academy-gif-2781084117707970046

[nocturne holly]

https://pokepast.es/159561b287125d68 flare blitz, wow, or taunt on incin

I also don’t know if I like fari over peli

Peli is nice for rain and does like a ton of damage too

fari is nice for anti fo and a secondary setter

idk if I have that damage output too tbh

[jade dust]

The animations in SwSh were way better

Behemoth blade, glacial lance, brave bird, all of them had cooler animations

[balmy glen]

It walls your team tho with wide guard

[chrome knot]

calyrex kick

[jade dust]

I don’t like how wide guard is a very restricted move, but it’s a good thing as well cuz the list is short, so I can easily remember it

[chrome knot]

@plain drum ive learnt my lesson that was a not fun experience tho i did get the funniest ss ever

[craggy dagger]

cut
it
with
scissors

[chrome knot]

stop reading upppppp

[molten oasis]

[chrome knot]

pls

[craggy dagger]

fine
sorry

[chrome knot]

i got sick earlier :3

i feel so ded tn

[spiral ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/yumeko-jabami-蛇喰-夢子-kakegurui-anime-gif-17306696

[craggy dagger]

get some sleep-

[chrome knot]

i in bedddd

[elder python]

how good is this for anything no does no legends? https://pokepast.es/e31931520021bff9

[patent marsh]

Ig this is for Singles?

[elder python]

ye

[patent marsh]

Don't think you can get much help here since this channel primarily focuses on VGC, singles most things can work

[hollow rover]

Anyone mind telling me if this is a good doubles team and if it’s shit give me suggestions on how to make it better https://pokepast.es/fa3a8fff5b58c374

[patent marsh]

Not reg G?

[hollow rover]

It’s supposed to be

[solid frigate]

yeah no,not great

[elder python]

ahh ok

[patent marsh]

Tough not using a restricted of choice

[zinc totem]

does koraidons run max attack and speed or do they have bulk ?

[mighty stump]

Depends

I’ve ran slower Koraidons but that make you a lot more dependant on getting Flame Charge/Speed Control onboard

[zinc totem]

I see i see. Was thinking which type of koraidon should build (friend is wanting make koraidon) so was goin help him so wanted know if should be bulkier or not

[jade dust]

Yeah in singles you can wipe a team of legendaries with a Bidoof if you setup well

[mighty stump]

I think you might have fallen for one of the clickbaity shorts

[zinc totem]

does 116/156/4/0/4/228 work for koraidon?

[zinc totem]

ah yes bananafred's videos or temp6t videos

[molten oasis]

hehe, emergency exit doesn't work in pokerogue

meaning golispod gets to SD sweep teams

[dull ibex]

Vc?

[molten oasis]

uh, idk

[solid frigate]

dunno

[dull ibex]

Fair

[dull ibex]

I don't reccomend phobias

Especially arachnaphobia

[chrome knot]

[mighty stump]

Golisopod would have been so based against CIR mayne

Like

Its actually so fat

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 768: Golisopod

Types

Bug/Water

Abilities

Emergency Exit

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

75/125/140/60/90/40

Total

530

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[mighty stump]

THATS ZAMAZENTA’S BASE DEF BRO

[balmy glen]

xd

[patent marsh]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/581117040182689792/1259031689712111667/KKB_RNG.gif

[regal nest]

how good in blissey

[solid frigate]

trash

[solid frigate]

just invest some Bulk and its perfect for tank

[zinc totem]

Sadly if it isnt single battle, blissey is useless af in vgc beacuse there always will be inci or rillaboom that just murders it not to mention all koraidons and ice riders

[regal nest]

ok thanks

[solid frigate]

Physical Attackers in General

[zinc totem]

Yeah but i named ones that are used most

[solid frigate]

and even some Strong Nukes in Special Attack

[zinc totem]

Tbf its hard nuke blissey with SpA

[solid frigate]

252+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Electro Drift vs. 4 HP / 252+ SpD Blissey in Electric Terrain: 147-174 (44.4 - 52.5%) -- 19.9% chance to 2HKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Tera Electric Miraidon Helping Hand Electro Drift vs. 4 HP / 252+ SpD Blissey in Electric Terrain: 294-346 (88.8 - 104.5%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO

Namely Miraidon but then again i'm getting ahead of myself

[median nova]

is this a singles chat or vgc chat

[solid frigate]

kinda both but mostly VGC

[zinc totem]

VGC is main that people go as beacuse its official tournament one but people do give advice for singles too

[solid frigate]

but rarely so yeah don't expect that much advice

[zinc totem]

I forgot the word so i said tournament one haha

[solid frigate]

honestly if Miraidon is able to OHKO Blissey there is something wrong here

[zinc totem]

Just means gamefreak makes broken restricted

[solid frigate]

which honestly at least Miraidon's Counter is a Monke

[zinc totem]

That is true or tera ground zacian

[patent marsh]

I think they meant for non restricted that anyone can use

I think it's pretty hard to not be able to use Rillaboom

[zinc totem]

Boom boom booom, i want you in my room

[solid frigate]

especially that Tera Raid Rillaboom and Indigo Disk Exists

[patent marsh]

Or incin rilla rapidstrike core in general unless you're a sun setter

[solid frigate]

sun Setter or you using Miraidon

But then again Tofu uses RIlla Miraidon in his team soooo

[patent marsh]

Basically both the gen 9 box legendary+ groudon

[zinc totem]

I finally got myself koraidon from this server

So i guess i replace my groudon with koraidon on sun team

[patent marsh]

Like me going from groudon to koraidon to calyrex man calyrex team building is a lot easier lmao

[solid frigate]

if you wanna be technical then Dawn Wings Necrozma Team with Torkal lol

also tbf i don't have a FWG Core in my Miraidon and Kyogre Team so yeah

[patent marsh]

Like since now people opt incin to run will o wisp instead of Flare blitz it still works in Kyogre team kek

[solid frigate]

i mean to be fair,thats like every Incin in Rain team lol

[zinc totem]

Seems i didnt update picture cuz i swapped heavy slam to protect but groudon into koraidon swap time

[patent marsh]

Yea I'm just saying the amount if restricted that can willingly use rilla incin rapid core is high

[solid frigate]

well tbf that looks fine

Tho if you wanna use all attack moves Groudon you could run Assault Vest but idk your choice\

[zinc totem]

I actually had AV first

But incineroar would stomp

[solid frigate]

around like at least 70% to 80% amount of Restricteds that the same trio are slappable

[solid frigate]

Oh yeah you don't have Rapid Strike Shifu nvm

[zinc totem]

Rapid strike is not even option beacuse sun

[solid frigate]

yeah and Walking Wake kinda Mid

[zinc totem]

Thats why i have SS with scarf

[solid frigate]

fair

[zinc totem]

https://pokepast.es/c0a0ed212e9856af was original team

[solid frigate]

honestly if it works it works

[zinc totem]

Yeah but issue being is that if it’s max speed Incin it prolly still outspeeds, meaning they get immediate pressure on the mon with protect and get a free parting shot into Groudon meaning it is at minus 2 then you have to swap it out.

Thats why clear amulet

[solid frigate]

i think Indeedee Groudon Lead is quite Strong due to you deny Any Priority Moves

which Incin and Rilla commonly have

[zinc totem]

Yeah and i swapped heavy slam to protect

[solid frigate]

eh i mean its fine,Groudon is beefy in weight

[zinc totem]

Problem is fakeout and fast special attackers so if i can get trickroom up and protecting groudon

Groudon has better chanse do its thing

[solid frigate]

TR Groudon huh

[zinc totem]

TR/TW groudon yes

[solid frigate]

eh i mean its fine tbh

[patent marsh]

Heavy slam was alright if you want coverage, body press maybe would've been fine to be gone since groudon will probably be pressing heat crash majority of the time, and you already got urshifu for fighting STAB

[solid frigate]

you do have Torn for a secondary sun setter

[zinc totem]

Body press is there beacuse coaching

[patent marsh]

How often you do it though

[zinc totem]

Situationally but somewhat often as it does.pressure tera too

[solid frigate]

also would it be weird if my Miraidon Team had no legit Groudon Counters-

don't get me wrong the team is fine

[zinc totem]

Also body press is pretty neat pressure beacuse it can give SS urshifu opportunity do late game murders if i can keep it long enough

[solid frigate]

but also if you keep body Press and do not being Indeedee,you are very Prone to Sucker Punch

[zinc totem]

Yeah but i think its better if i replace it with koraidon

[solid frigate]

i'm not talk bout Groudon

I'm talking about my Mirai Team

[zinc totem]

Aah i see

[solid frigate]

i don't have a Nesscessary good Groudon Counter but still

[zinc totem]

True. It was indeedee or fari as choises

But i decided go with indeedee

Helps with CIR teams with dazzling gleam if sashed

[solid frigate]

yeah

[zinc totem]

While fari wouldnt be able do anything cuz trick room takes the attack slot

Also follow me is super funny beacuse i can protect groudon from rapid-strike

And indeedee lives it with max def

[solid frigate]

fair

[zinc totem]

I got some funny kills with rocky helmet

On rapidnstrike ursh

[solid frigate]

thats like Amogus moment

[zinc totem]

yes

[next stump]

good morning y’all

[solid frigate]

Mornin Dillon

[regal nest]

any one have good move sets for these teams

[solid frigate]

for what teams

[regal nest]

it wont let me put in the picture

[solid frigate]

because newcomer.

[regal nest]

how?

[solid frigate]

just said the Mon names,The Security Systems for spammers

[regal nest]

Azumarill,Hydrapple,Zamazenta,Archaludon,Kyogre and Pelipper

is the first team

[solid frigate]

is it Singles or is it Doubles

[regal nest]

doubles

[solid frigate]

cuz Doubles Restricteds are not out yet

Hydrapple is Mid,Azu is Mid

[regal nest]

this one is a team for my friend he wants to do a rain team but with azu

i was thinking like a belly drum azu

[solid frigate]

I rather Life Orb but eh

is it for casuals?/

[regal nest]

yeah

[solid frigate]

ok then use anything

[regal nest]

ok

do you have a good rain team that i could try out?

[solid frigate]

i mean in Showdown or SV?

[regal nest]

sv

[solid frigate]

ok then my Kyogre Team is not shared then

you can go to Victory Road or #rental_teams

[regal nest]

ok thanks

[barren needle]

ik thats what i was trying to do i dont have any mons with solar beam

[solid frigate]

Venusaur:

[lofty tartan]

https://pokepast.es/1fcff4f017718d00

Oh hold up - gotta fix Archa

Fixed

[foggy lodge]

I saw a Terapagos weather ball set lol

I don't know if it would work

I suppose with Pelipper stuff

[chrome knot]

uh

manual weather..

ur tera takes away terrain & weather lmao

[mighty stump]

Weather Ball on Pagos sounds terrible

Lol

[zinc totem]

yeah tri attack is better

but i guess they want play the shell games!

(if you know ref you know)

[bold geode]

Morning Tofu

[mighty stump]

Morning for you

[bold geode]

Yes

[solid frigate]

what the heck-

[chrome knot]

hai tofu

[mighty stump]

Hai emma

Im working on something neato

[chrome knot]

ooooo

[mighty stump]

Other than my locals team

I think you'll like

[solid frigate]

PLEASE NO WEATHER BALL PAGOS SET I'M HAVING A SEZIURE

[chrome knot]

lemme seeee

[craggy dagger]

mrrrp-?

[chrome knot]

nova gmmmmm

[modern cliff]

Make a team for that lol

[chrome knot]

@craggy dagger im raiding while standing in a bean outbreak i jus need 1 saltyyyy

[solid frigate]

[knotty mirage]

I wonder can wo chien become more usable if it's got spore or sleep powder

[mighty stump]

That would be omega busted

Another actually good Spore mon

But honestly Amoonguss probably still better

LOL

Grass/Poison is just good

[balmy glen]

nah

[mighty stump]

x4 weak to U-turn sadge

[balmy glen]

they become the same

we tested it in dou for fun

[knotty mirage]

I mean the typing should at least makes it more bearable

[nocturne holly]

Bo1 smeargle is a bitch

[chrome knot]

someday yall will learn to play bo3

[nocturne holly]

😡it’s on cart

[mighty stump]

someday yall will learn to play bo3

[chrome knot]

real!!

think a real genius said that first tbh

[mighty stump]

I agree

A profound individual

High on tblockers

[chrome knot]

hehe i got sick last night

[bold geode]

I play it every now and then

Emma I hate to say it
But yeah do you have like a credit card or other card

[mighty stump]

Okay I think the team is goated

[bold geode]

Like use that if you don't got anything else

[mighty stump]

I have two teams I am happy with

[chrome knot]

[sweet swallow]

What is bo3?

[bold geode]

Chat I'm playing OrAs again and I likey

[chrome knot]

best of 3

[sweet swallow]

Ahhhh

[mighty stump]

Yep

[bold geode]

There's someone I haven't seen in a fuckin minute
How have you been

[bold geode]

Honestly don't blame you

[chrome knot]

treating myself to pizza for breakfast

[bold geode]

Hot or cold

[sweet swallow]

Doing ok. Trying to get into VGC because I have time (no pun intended) now and why not

[chrome knot]

cold

it from yday

[bold geode]

FUCK I DROPPED 3DS AND IT CRASH

[bold geode]

Cold pizza can go hard

[bold geode]

Also nice glad to hear

Y'know what is fucking me up a bit for some reason
The fact that my turns aren't timed like in comp

[mighty stump]

Iirc the last time I spoke to Time was like

In Gen 8

LOL

[plain drum]

Time

[sweet swallow]

You’d be almost right

[bold geode]

I've seen Time in breeding chat once or twice iirc?

[sweet swallow]

I suppose I might have mostly been doing hackchecks if anything at that time

[mighty stump]

Well breeding too

Cause I was trying to escape Monke

[sweet swallow]

Reasonable.

As much as I despise monkey design, I caved and am using it in my current “figure out how competitive even works” team

[mighty stump]

Lol

Well if you require any help

[sweet swallow]

Shall update once I have some more experience

Ig only question is
What if someone plays blood moon ursaluna?

I’m kind of dumbfounded about that one.

[nocturne holly]

Wdym lol

[sweet swallow]

I don’t know what pokemon/strategies can beat it more easily

[mighty stump]

Oh. One thing about BM Ursaluna is that it isn’t particularly bulky. The only dangerous thing is if it has speed control on its side

[plain drum]

Glhf Time, glad to hear you’ve been all right the past few months

[sweet swallow]

TR mostly right?

[mighty stump]

Even Tailwind. Max Spe Modest/Timid is a thing

[sweet swallow]

I see

I’ll watch out for it!

[bold geode]

You can never escape Monke
I'm everywhere
I'm in your walls

[molten oasis]

I just think he’s cool

He’s such a cool guy and has like, everything going for it EXCEPT its ability

[solar mirage]

[craggy dagger]

no ping

[solar mirage]

Hiii novaa

[bold geode]

Hi

[bold geode]

I ping
Hi Nova

[bold geode]

What is that lmao

[chrome knot]

i cant find a girl bean

[craggy dagger]

[bold geode]

That THE Dan Heng

Why he got horns
Am I missing lore here

[tranquil kraken]

didnt finish story?

[bold geode]

No
I haven't really played that much and only started like 2-3 weeks ago?

[tranquil kraken]

ah fair enough

[craggy dagger]

oops

[bold geode]

I have a slight gambling addiction too so

[tranquil kraken]

i wont tell its story related haha, enjoy the game if you gonna play it still

[spiral ridge]

Second person you’ve done this to girl

😭

[tranquil kraken]

[craggy dagger]

shush

[spiral ridge]

Your track record ain’t good girl

[timber falcon]

ello

decided to get beck to wark with ray team

[bold geode]

Nova just silly

[dapper crag]

Ability: Emergency Exit

When this Pokemon has more than 1/2 its maximum HP and takes damage bringing it to 1/2 or less of its maximum HP, it immediately switches out to a chosen ally. This effect applies after all hits from a multi-hit move. This effect is prevented if the move had a secondary effect removed by the Sheer Force Ability. This effect applies to both direct and indirect damage, except Curse and Substitute on use, Belly Drum, Pain Split, and confusion damage.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[jade dust]

Remove knock off from incineroar

Why did they give it back

Let clear amulet be the counter he is helpless against

[chrome knot]

what

[balmy glen]

??

[jade dust]

It’s already very high bullshit and why to give it knock off again? They removed it in SwSh from incineroar

Do that again

[foggy lodge]

Inci is fine rn

[chrome knot]

i smell skill issues

[nocturne holly]

Anyone have an incin spread

[bold geode]

"High bullshit" lmao

[knotty mirage]

Yeah you might need to wait next gen for that happen or maybe they will do something even better by just not adding incin on the game at all

[bold geode]

Safety Googles

[knotty mirage]

No lando and incin in next gen sounds neat

[chrome knot]

its a fair pokemon

just be better idk

[nocturne holly]

goggle search

[bold geode]

Look it up on Goggle real quick

Goggle Chromebook

[knotty mirage]

I mean i'm not agains't incin that much anyway it just there possibility next gen just doesn't add incin at all

Or maybe i just really miss earlier reg where the only viable intimidate mon being arcanine

[chrome knot]

..starters are always transfer ins if not added to the game

[knotty mirage]

Isn't on sword and shield kalos starter is not transferable

Like i said possibility

[nocturne holly]

Dynamax adventures

They’re always gonna be added in sooner or later

[knotty mirage]

You sure kalos starter is even available on dynamax adventure

What i mean is with swsh doesn't even add kalos starter at all it could be possible next gen would just not add alola starter at all to the game

[chrome knot]

keep that same cope up

[bold geode]

Yeah Incin will come back lol

[nocturne holly]

Incin keeps his money up not his funny up

[chrome knot]

theyd rather bank on it not returning than learn how to (easily) beat it

[bold geode]

Or even how to manage tbh

[rustic mountain]

incin rilla will rule for generations

[nocturne holly]

Good Water starter with fo fr

[fair wraith]

https://pokepast.es/3d61153dbb99762b Made this good CSR team, high ladder in both BO1 and BO3 OTS, was wondering if anyone had any improvements or saw places in which optomization could be achieved, TY.

[craggy dagger]

stinky

[chrome knot]

nothing inherently wrong with team, looks a little patchy is all

[fair wraith]

Ooh, tbf that acc wasn’t the BO3 one a mate did that

[knotty mirage]

Okay i actually just said there a chance they just not get added on next gen i never really despise incin anyway

[fair wraith]

And earlier in the day I had big loss streak trying to tweak the team

I can make a new acc and ladder it on that if it would give better data

[balmy glen]

ngl I gave up and I’m not using the most toxic team of all time

glhf to everyone that has to face the toxic team on my new alt

[bold geode]

But the chance isn't there lol

[knotty mirage]

Fair enough just thinking it could be fun you know to experience the earlier reg again even tho no incin meaning no litten and i don't think ever want that to happen

[bold geode]

Like there will be Regs without it (cuz they aren't gonna throw it in the game immediately) but it'll be in every gen

[long narwhal]

Can someone help me get started with vgc i want to start playing it

[bold geode]

Not even for comp, but just like from a marketing standpoint

[long narwhal]

Me?

[bold geode]

Oh sorry
Messages not timed right

[knotty mirage]

Oh well we might need to wait good amount of time before that gonna happen and i doubt ZA gonna have comp at all

[bold geode]

Anyways on this, we do have some resources to get started
I'd suggest doing a little research before getting into it (know it sounds boring, but it legitimately helps)
#competitive_discussion message

[gentle crag]

Here is a list of all of the resources I find most helpful when playing/learning VGC:

https://www.vgcguide.com/ (Helpful website for basics and also to get your feet wet)

https://www.pikalytics.com/ (Shows you usage data and helps you build Pokémon)

https://nerd-of-now.github.io/NCP-VGC-Damage-Calculator/ (Damage calculator that is very helpful when building teams or reflecting on games)

https://youtube.com/c/CybertronVGC (Best channel for daily VGC content, guiding you through the thought process you need for success)

https://victoryroadvgc.com/ (Tournament results, team reports and breakdowns, and rental codes can be found here)

https://twitter.com/VGCPastes - Tournament and high ranked teams

https://twitter.com/vgccorner - Helpful Twitter account that posts in-depth EV spreads and ideas about competitive pokemon

There are dozens of other resources, some of which are in the pinned messages of this channel. But these IMO are the best places to start absorbing knowledge and getting to a place where you're comfortable with VGC

mlbd (ID 197813560997314562)

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Command triggered by dollarmonke. Message from · Dec 17, 2023, 7:30 PM

[pallid hare]

yeah, starter pokemon tend to be some of the most popular pokemon for marketing purposes making them typical shoeins for any game and incineroar just so happens to be legitimately good in competitive

[long narwhal]

Ty

[bold geode]

Fuck that's always a text wall

No problem

[chrome knot]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2164429205-hef4sxvvtot51hoqbw5mvk4jl9zenfzpw

eek

[solid frigate]

POV:Newcomwers does not know Pokepaste be like

[long narwhal]

What does reg g mean

[nocturne holly]

it’s a rule set

Allows one restricted

[bold geode]

It's the ruleset

[long narwhal]

Thats nice 👍

So i can use any money like caly shadow or kyogre

Mon*

[nocturne holly]

Yea

But just one

[long narwhal]

Yeah

I was watching some wolfey vids and y does everyone use amoongus and zamazenta and incin

[bold geode]

Yeah you can't use the mythicals though like Zeraora or Magearna

[long narwhal]

Paradox like raginbolt count as 1 reticted? Bc it comes from raikou which is a leg

[nocturne holly]

You mean on the same team or just in general

[long narwhal]

General

[nocturne holly]

incin is like the ultimate role compression mom with FO, intim, wisp, taunt, knock off, parting shot, etc
Amoonguss is hella tanky and decent typing and god support either spore and rage powder and pollen puff
Zama isn’t the most used restricted but it’s really tanking with automatic +1 def and stab body press + iron defense or you could run wide guard

[long narwhal]

Whats a team i can use to start?

[bold geode]

The paradox trio you're mentioning is not restricted

[long narwhal]

Pokemon showdown bc my nintendo switch is not here

Idk if it changes somett

[bold geode]

Nah not really
Actually for once that's sorta good lmao

[long narwhal]

Y

[bold geode]

Pokemon Showdown is a good tool to use for testing teams, building them, and just playing in general

[long narwhal]

ª

[bold geode]

Anyways, we do have rentals in #rental_teams
Usually those go for cart, but the pastes that comes with them can just be copy and pasted into Showdown builder tbh

[nocturne holly]

I also like Patrick’s naic team for beginners

also cybertron has videos on rentals on his channel

[bold geode]

Nobody posted that team in there tbh, although if you have the paste, feel free to share

(I have it, just can't really pull it up rn)

[nocturne holly]

cybertron has it on his channel

[long narwhal]

Whats an easy to use one

[foggy lodge]

no thanks

Maybe for formats with a lower power level

But i think when the legendary pokemon come Inci is necessary

Damage control against some beasts is necessary

[dapper crag]

Incin was a mistake and needs some serious nerfs

[long narwhal]

https://pokepast.es/8cf21636d953265c this team good?

[dapper crag]

Calyrex Ice without a trick room setter is wild

[balmy glen]

how is it wild

[foggy lodge]

what

It has been the most common composition for caly ice lol

[dapper crag]

Oh I'm outdated

[chrome knot]

yah very good !!

[long narwhal]

He is the setter

[long narwhal]

I am a starter , started today accually is the team easy to use?

[chrome knot]

pretty straightforward yes

[long narwhal]

I used to play singles but i am trying out double

[foggy lodge]

You might need to know the speed tiers but i think it's easy

[rustic mountain]

raging bolt certainly feels like it

[solid frigate]

Raging Bolt and thats about it

[rustic mountain]

crown wake and fire are ok, they just arent as splashable

[chrome knot]

CROWN SUCKS!!!!

[long narwhal]

What are those

[solid frigate]

Crown is too Specfic but at least it works well with Miraidon

hell one of them uses Miraidon+Crown in Taiwan Nationals

[rustic mountain]

its done decent in past formats, its not terrible. maybe not the move now but idt its a bad mon. leaves def is tho

[solid frigate]

Leaves is just sucks

Boulder tho i think its underrated

[rustic mountain]

eh

hard to say cuz since its been allowed it hasnt done much

[solid frigate]

its just too overlooked by players since the only good Rock Type in here is Glimmora and T-Tar

[rustic mountain]

has like 1 thing going for it and its a fast rock type

[solid frigate]

and H-Arc

[foggy lodge]

The speed that some pokemon tend to hit

[bold geode]

Honestly

[foggy lodge]

Like Amoonguss that normally is 31 speed

[solid frigate]

i love Breaking Protects that is not Urshifu

I'm kidding but still

[rustic mountain]

i mean its cool but its just not good seemingly

maybe in some future format

[solid frigate]

yeah and Rock/Psychic isn't really good

[rustic mountain]

yea it hurts it nd idk if it has enough to compensate that

[foggy lodge]

Atleast it was added in the tera gen

[solid frigate]

tho i have used Boulder in my Kyogre Team,not too bad ngl

[bold geode]

That's a good team yes

[rustic mountain]

i mean its not awful, its bst is good, theres just better options

[solid frigate]

I used Tera Grass Speed Booster Boulder that looks standard

[bold geode]

Won NAIC
Calyrex Ice Rider is consistent and that's the most consistent team comp that it goes with
That CIR team good

[rustic mountain]

patcon 6?

[solid frigate]

its the easiest to build besides Maybe Rajan's Miraidon Formula

[foggy lodge]

What's the most common speed of Raging?

[rustic mountain]

[foggy lodge]

I was thinking of like a fast Raging to outspeed Chien Pao, Flutter or things like that in tw

[rustic mountain]

not many go that fast

[solid frigate]

I just go for 100 Speed to at least Outspeed Modest/Adamant Miraidon and Koraidon Respectively

in tailwind

so its 36 EVs

for me at least

[nocturne holly]

Yea it’s a really fun archetype and team rn

[long narwhal]

https://pokepast.es/8cf21636d953265c who do i lead with? In general my 4 mon

[solid frigate]

unless you are facing that archetype

[nocturne holly]

Depends on the matchup

calyrex is a must bring bring because it’s your restricted

don’t necessarily have to lead with it

[long narwhal]

I like to lead with incin and calyrex is that ok?

[solid frigate]

Incin Caly is not a bad lead

i see most Caly Ice team lead with Incin Rilla

[long narwhal]

I played now and i got destroyed by a indidee and calyrex shadow

[solid frigate]

welp

[long narwhal]

But it was my first vgc match

[nocturne holly]

Everyone starts somewhere

[long narwhal]

Yea

[nocturne holly]

honestly your wins and losses don’t even really matter rn

[chrome knot]

best way to learn is just play the game

[long narwhal]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2164457728-4awglfpsyhirh42pyc7va3ju10evvm8pw my first win 🙂 my villan arc begins

Btw why is pelliper there?

[chrome knot]

weather & wide guard also when playing vs miraidon ur best lead is always raging bolt rillaboom

during ur tr turns when incin + mirai come in u should protect cir + swap to rilla to regain terrain control

fake out incin next turn and nuke miraidon

[long narwhal]

So i u turn with rilla to incin so he fakes out and i use glacial lance?

[nocturne holly]

if you swapped rilla into bolt you would have FO next turn

[chrome knot]

turn 6
swap bolt —> rillaboon
protect in cir

[nocturne holly]

And bolt would be in the back and reset it’s stat changes

[long narwhal]

I thought abt that but did not do it for some reason

[chrome knot]

turn 7 glacial lance + fake out incin bc ur always killing mirai

[long narwhal]

Fake out on mirai?

[chrome knot]

non

lance @ +2 always kills so no need

[long narwhal]

Oh

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/59135748f3779b23 suggestions plz?

[craggy dagger]

grass amoongus?

[nocturne holly]

Other than amoonguss Tera I think it looks fine

[next stump]

@chrome knot won my local going 12-0 in games

[chrome knot]

holy fuck

[next stump]

almost all worlds players

[chrome knot]

goddamn

good shit, just original cornerstone variant or

[next stump]

yeah the OG variant

teamsheet error on my bolt though and I had to play with no dragon move hahaha

[chrome knot]

oop

thats kinda rly funny

[balmy glen]

Ima be honest idk anyone there except both Dillon and Dylan

[next stump]

6 worlds players for masters

[balmy glen]

Actually I beat Andrew block at indie

Unless I’m mixing them up with the other million of Andrew’s

[plain drum]

[chrome knot]

@mighty stump help me please if i cut with credit card do i use my card like a saw…?

[jade dust]

What are the best EVs for primarina? 252 HP, 252 SpcA and 4 Def? Or 252 HP, 4 SpcA and 252 Def?

With liquid voice and throat spray obviously

And calm mind or protect?

[molten oasis]

It’s supposed to be water

[craggy dagger]

emma

yes-
thats how you do it but why with a card and not a knife or scissors

[chrome knot]

this is a genuine ask for help before i pass away

[craggy dagger]

yeah you use it like a saw

[mighty stump]

yOOOO

[mighty stump]

I rock it back and forth with firm pressure while holding the pill

I prefer something metal tho

Lol

if you saw it al the powder goes everywhere and thats still taking an inappropriate dose

[craggy dagger]

better than taking double though

[mighty stump]

Morning everyone

[craggy dagger]

gm tofu!

[chrome knot]

ok all better >_<

[dull ibex]

Hi tofu

[bold geode]

Morning

[bold geode]

Finally she cuts it

[bold geode]

@molten oasis

[long narwhal]

Whats a good kyogre team i can use? I got tired of using cir

[molten oasis]

Why

[molten oasis]

Don’t use it that’s my suggestion

[bold geode]

He wanted some help with Primarina that's why

[bold geode]

Lemme find paste

[long narwhal]

I found this

What do u think https://pokepast.es/59e57890c2f19cba

[bold geode]

Nah hold up

https://pokepast.es/59543d896b26f688
Here's Shilliang Tang's top 8 NAIC team which is really good tbh

[long narwhal]

Its basicly tailwind tera water choice specs water spout

Ima try that

[bold geode]

Screens good + Wo Chien is a point faster than Kyogre so it can Pollen Puff Kyogre back up for Spouts

[long narwhal]

What does pollen puff do

[nocturne holly]

If used on ally heals for 50%

[bold geode]

If you aim it at opponent it does damage
If at ally it heals them

[molten oasis]

Well I gave him my advice

[dapper crag]

Item: Dragon Gem

Holder's first successful Dragon-type attack will have 1.3x power. Single use.

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[bold geode]

Also might I ask do you know your record with the Calyrex team?

[molten oasis]

Don’t play off meta it’s not fuckin worth it

[bold geode]

Oh c'mon

[molten oasis]

Unless your ready to let it get hard carried and do nothing

[nocturne holly]

Look who’s talking

[bold geode]

I see you're in a sour ass mood so imma dip

[long narwhal]

Dollarmoke

Look https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2164558429-k7c9hmhfgcybjeu44yl147oi67pkm5gpw

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 781: Dhelmise

Types

Ghost/Grass

Abilities

Steelworker

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

70/131/100/86/90/40

Total

517

SableyeBot version 4.28.0

[foggy lodge]

I wonder why this mon was never good

[bold geode]

Yup that's what happens lol

[foggy lodge]

ngl your oponnent literally decided to lose the speed tie lol

[molten oasis]

Yea

I’m over trying new things just to be told to play HO or give up

And in general you SHOULD stick to the meta

The only benefit is having something your opponent may not be prepared for

Play the meta

Off meta is not worth it unless you like suffering

[modern harbor]

what do we think of ogerpon

[solid frigate]

[chrome knot]

@modern harbor what do you think of lurantis

[silver ravine]

Probs been done before, but a ogerpon and tinkaton core would be swell if it was actually good

[modern harbor]

i luv lurantis its shiny is pretty

[solid frigate]

i actually did tried that when i testing Terapagos lol

[chrome knot]

ehehehe

yaaaayyyyy

[modern harbor]

i meant tho! what do we think of ogerpon in comp

[chrome knot]

pon is one of my favourites to use for vg

[modern harbor]

i know was good before restricteds, how is it now?

[chrome knot]

good on certain teams

[solid frigate]

We stan the Tera Raid Pikachu Slayer

[chrome knot]

mostly cornerstone/hearthflame

[silver ravine]

How'd it go? I know using swagger on tink is pretty decent

[modern harbor]

i was thinking hearthflame could be good on my team

[chrome knot]

i jus put hearthflame back on my team

was a big fan of gouging fire pon pao rilla core from reg f so it feels at home

[modern harbor]

i was thinking of bringing urshifu rapid, pao, fire pon and dropping fish and possibly dropping flutter too

[chrome knot]

whats your team 0.0

[modern harbor]

shifu r, zama, flutter, fish, torn, pao

[chrome knot]

icic

[solid frigate]

i use support Tinkaton,not swagger,

Tinkaton @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Mold Breaker
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 44 Atk / 116 Def / 92 SpD / 4 Spe
Impish Nature

• Fake Out
• Gigaton Hammer
• Play Rough/Knock Off
• Thunder Wave

[chrome knot]

big zam hater so my input not helpful

[modern harbor]

nooooo

i tried so much to get my zama shes my baby

[silver ravine]

Right I was just saying tink can be surprisngly good. Might steal your set for a meme team

[solid frigate]

i used it before and i just slap my tinkaton Build into my Draft League set

[modern harbor]

tinkatwink

[chrome knot]

oopsiedaisyyyuu mmmm i just play cir so it annoying mu

[modern harbor]

cir?

[ornate forge]

cir

[chrome knot]

ice rider

[modern harbor]

ohhh

i struggle against ice rider :((

[chrome knot]

WAHT

literally sit on it

[solid frigate]

Meanwhile me:Terapagos

Fucking dies to Zama

[modern harbor]

yep

def dont struggle against terapagos lul

[chrome knot]

neither

[modern harbor]

yeah i struggle against both ice riders and sometimes koraidon or kyogre

[chrome knot]

zam until i changed Incin for pon was annoying

now its okie :3

[ornate forge]

pon

[modern harbor]

yea i like zama bc it dont care ab intimidate

[chrome knot]

wisp

[modern harbor]

true

but i also p sure i 1 shot incin

[chrome knot]

usually a ghost also

(this previously was my zam mu)

[modern harbor]

true

flare blitz hurt

1/3

[mighty stump]

well youre more concerned about wisps lol

[modern harbor]

ok i feel like my team sometimes hurts using a fire type tho

bc my torn is rain dance

[chrome knot]

so heres a fun one

(dont click rain dance next to a fire type)

[modern harbor]

pon water?

[modern harbor]

I KNOW BUT SOMETIMES I HAV TO

[chrome knot]

what tera is ur zam

[modern harbor]

is it bad if my team hav no special attacker lul

[modern harbor]

grass for now

[next stump]

fuckkkk the zama matchup hahaha

had to play like a god to win that today

[chrome knot]

is why im sayingggg hearthflame is the secret

[chrome knot]

consider dragon, everyone seems to be jumpin to it

[silver ravine]

What would you get rid of for feint? Thinking feint and mold breaker would be nice.

[jade dust]

Like not expecting wide guard swampert

[solid frigate]

i don't found that useful for me,but i guess in right circumstances its good

Still finding the shiny tho

[next stump]

maybe that’s the sauce

[silver ravine]

Breaking wide guard would be useful, but that's about it for feint

[solid frigate]

but tbf i might not use Tinkaton for the next Reg cuz of... I'm cooking something for it

[modern harbor]

i think this is too much offense...

[next stump]

my opponent had scarf ursh + pao though and I think that lead would be really hard for ogerpon hearthflame

[chrome knot]

i can send mine its sooo goooddd

[solid frigate]

i mean too much offense isn't that bad

its Hyper Offense so it works

[chrome knot]

i think any pon struggles there

[next stump]

yeah for sure, i’m surprised my opponent didn’t see it

but then I guess he’s stuck under TR against caly + bolt with no protect on ursh

[solid frigate]

i mean Scarf Shifu is more vulerable against bolt so yeah fair

[chrome knot]

also try cm bolt

[solid frigate]

Lefties CM?

[chrome knot]

booster

[nocturne holly]

taunt or wisp on incin

both are useful😡

[next stump]

what do you give up? thunderbolt?

[solid frigate]

Wisp Incin and Taunt Urshifu Kek

[chrome knot]

yeah

clap pulse cm protect

[solid frigate]

isn't that basically just Whimsicott kek moment?

[chrome knot]

https://tenor.com/view/ogerpon-pokemon-ogerpon-ogerpon-pokemon-poochyena-ivy-cudgel-gif-5046741278776982481

https://tenor.com/view/glastrier-gif-21054576

[solid frigate]

emma,i'm talking about 1v1.

[chrome knot]

half of the team eats whims for breakfast

why am i 1v1ing a whims.

[solid frigate]

you don't know when it will happen.

But i guess if you ignore it then fine

[chrome knot]

or i position better so it doesnt

[molten oasis]

Don’t ping me about anything thanks

[gentle crag]

drayagedrago has given 1 Gen Rep to shrekers

[chrome knot]

what abt wide guard rillaboom

[next stump]

someone at my local was rocking razor leaf choice band rillaboom

lowkey was kinda fire in some spots

[chrome knot]

LMAO

[next stump]

i think it has ivy cudgel crit rate

[chrome knot]

what the fuck

[foggy lodge]

Yeah

12%

[next stump]

🔥

[modern harbor]

is fire pon fast or ..?

[chrome knot]

all pons have same stats

fire pon usually runs 252/252 tho

[modern harbor]

speed atk? or hp atk?

[chrome knot]

spe atk

[molten oasis]

[modern harbor]

do u run wood hammer horn leech or grassy glide

[chrome knot]

personally hammer follow me but if u use rilla u can glide + sd

[next stump]

@chrome knot Junxi Zhu, super good player, has been doing well in his locals scene with CIR/Hands/Grimm/Lando-I/Amoonguss/Ursh-R

[chrome knot]

oooo

[next stump]

I’ve always thought it was a matter of time until Grimmsnarl made it onto CIR teams

they synergize super well

[chrome knot]

neil tried it and he said grimm was jobless lmfao

like cir grimm not that entire team

[bold geode]

Well thank God I do

[gentle crag]

dollarmonke has given 1 Gen Rep to drayagedrago

[mighty stump]

I think CM + Goggles for RBolt can be it tho

[bold geode]

No

No
No more CM Bolt

https://tenor.com/view/ksi-no-gif-26070619

[mighty stump]

I dont like CM Bolt with just TClap Pulse though

You get walled by Clefairy

LOL

[bold geode]

Yeah but was Clefairy really there in Reg F

Like at least now it's something to think about

[chrome knot]

leaving behind clap feels so wrong

[bold geode]

Tofu just don't run Protect iirc

[bold geode]

As a Zamazenta player
Ooooh Hearthflame scary

Only really when it crits

[chrome knot]

hearthflame ohkos :3

[molten oasis]

I do when I’m not forced on HO

🫠

[bold geode]

Well you don't like HO
Therefore you play HO, you hate yourself for playing HO

[molten oasis]

That’s not

[bold geode]

Nuh Uh

Actually maybe Nuh Uh?

Shouldn't thru Defense boost unless of course it crits

[molten oasis]

Meh, apparently thing that works with kyurem is chi Yu HO, so I’m going back to Zac

[chrome knot]

with some help of some friends yes

they cheer her on

[bold geode]

So she can't do it by herself
Lil wimp, let the big dog eat

https://tenor.com/view/zamazenta-pokémon-swosh-gif-14286454

[molten oasis]

The hidden Hearthflame tech

Focus energy 👍

[bold geode]

Actually funnily enough the Santiago regionals came down to a Zamazenta mirror in finals and the winner had Hearthflame so
Yeah there's something there

[molten oasis]

I messed with focus energy Hearthflame, works against zama with support and speed control

[bold geode]

Just as I said
You'd really like to have that Ivy Cudgel crit unless I'm missing a mark I didn't know about

[molten oasis]

Tera fire at neutral I believe kills

[bold geode]

With Zama at +1?

[molten oasis]

If you’re max att

[molten oasis]

Your gonna crit with focus energy

[bold geode]

That's what I'm saying
If it don't crit, we goated

[molten oasis]

If not then obviously no

Icy cudgel has a 100% chance to crit with focus energy

[bold geode]

Your mom

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-laughing-reverse-reverse-card-reverse-uno-gif-3758578067338957449

[bold geode]

[molten oasis]

So Nova and Emma bite people and now YOU bite people

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/explode-spongebob-gif-749203212715440276

[bold geode]

Yes

[chrome knot]

i dont bite

[chrome knot]

i am the one who’s bitten :v

[bold geode]

Emma just bites her pills in half

[molten oasis]

HAHAHAHA

[chrome knot]

no i od for fun

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/corey-tonge-thrown-out-of-the-window-thrown-out-the-window-window-thrown-out-gif-3358604718271550337

Oh I didn’t reply oops

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/spin-kermit-the-frog-funny-feels-like-pool-gif-15324912

[molten oasis]

I swear I’ve seen you bite

Maybe I saw your username close to Nova and got confused

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/bee-waggle-dance-bumble-bumblebee-gif-21989682

Sigma Mario Bros

[bold geode]

I AM THE DANGER

[molten oasis]

Oh boy the brainrot is leaking again

https://tenor.com/view/namufilms-patrick-star-rifle-gun-gif-25182238

[bold geode]

I AM THE SIGMA

I'm fighting the PatCon team fuck

[mighty stump]

I left for like

5 minutes

[bold geode]

LMFAO OH WELL I LOSE

But I almost OHKOd the fucking Caly with Sun Weather Ball

[molten oasis]

A lot can happen in 5 minutes

Especially with monke

[molten oasis]

You’re still on double weather zac?

[bold geode]

Yes

[molten oasis]

Drop one of the weathers bro

[bold geode]

No

[molten oasis]

Why

[bold geode]

I now have Weather Ball Raging Bolt
Hehe funny

[molten oasis]

Wouldn’t wake work better

[bold geode]

Nuh Uh

[molten oasis]

So I’m right

[bold geode]

No

[molten oasis]

I’d be willing to work with you on that if you want

[bold geode]

Bolt better
Bolt helps with TR and Koraidon

[molten oasis]

How tf does bolt help with tr

[bold geode]

It slower

[molten oasis]

Wake helps with koraidon

[bold geode]

That way my whole team just ain't too fast

[molten oasis]

It’s like the mid speed tier

What’s the team?

[bold geode]

I can fight inside it if need be

Hehe
Weather Ball Bolt is funny like a motherfucker

[molten oasis]

Monke what’s the team