I already did Koraidon
#competitive_discussion
mighty stump
abstract grail
Koraidon is my favorite restricted (I don't really like any of them lol) I guess I think Shadow rider looks cool too.
foggy lodge
What has been your favorite regulation in SV so far?
mighty stump
Who you asking
next stump
I think my favorite was probably Reg B or Reg E, but Reg G has been fun
a little matchup roulette sometimes
strange fjord
big fan of reg h š(whatever they decide itll be)
bold geode
Who you asking
Hey Tofu
bold geode
scratch that lol
Also hey babe
bold geode
Lol
forest arrow
based
bold geode
"It's the two regs I suffered from success"
willow vault
What has been your favorite regulation in SV so far?
F
autumn vault
What has been your favorite regulation in SV so far?
F, A and G are good ones imo
B and D were not so good
willow vault
What about c and e
mighty stump
Wow
autumn vault
They are mid tier
mighty stump
Didn't know we got Reg DnD
willow vault
Also d twice
autumn vault
Yes i corrected it
willow vault
Didn't know we got Reg DnD
Its downloadable content
autumn vault
Its downloadable content
And it costs only 30
rustic mountain
reg b was awesome
autumn vault
I hated it
bold geode
Didn't know we got Reg DnD
Bro no wonder your luck ain't good
Didn't roll a Nat 20
bold geode
Fast forward a month MAN FUCK RNG
bold geode
How about your Fuck It:We Ball ratio
mighty stump
Also pretty good lol
I just make teams and play I don't think too hard unless theres something I need to do with it
bold geode
Yeah
Also Tofu uh
Uh
I got trashed last night lmao
mighty stump
What do you want me to do about it
Not like I would if I could, but entertain me anyways
bold geode
Lol
I didn't even really play bad, just they played better
Plus MUs weren't the greatest
Plus I went back to older formula and found out that older formula wasn't as solid
mighty stump
Probably just need a different perspective: IMO certain interactions kinda never change at the basic level
Like Redirection + Gholdengo is basically just Caly-Clef now
Which boils down to like
Redirection + Setup Spread attacker
bold geode
Well the thing is I figured "hey I had x Pokemon before, helps with problems I had now, let's try it again"
THERE'S A REASON WHY I CHANGED SAID MON BEFORE
mighty stump
Or the established stuff tends to progress towards bettering it's more negative matchups
bold geode
I think honestly I just be losing to skill issue rn lol
Like there's a turn or two every now and then I'm just like "I know I should've done that, why didn't I"
Like I honestly have a lot of moments where I just think they're smarter
Like "this play's too fucking obvious, ain't no way they don't go to predict that"
mighty stump
That just means you're not confident with your play
If the opponent needs to read your play then like
It's probably a pretty decent thing to do
abstract grail
Alot of the times when I loose it's cause I overthink, almost run out of time on the timer then have to speed pick in the last 5 seconds lol
So a skill issue and needing more practice lol
mighty stump
@next stump Gib Farigiraf spread
bold geode
That just means you're not confident with your play
Yeah I know
It's just like
I just laugh at it cuz I get moments where I don't Wide Guard in front of an Astral Barrage and I'm just like well fuck man, I'll remember your efforts soldier
Like I know I could've done better so I just make sure to do better next time
Like when I fuck up and lose a game, it's like hey I understand how I fucked up, I understand this
No need to be mad at myself over it, it's not like brooding over that game will change the results
bold geode
Yeah like
Just review the stuff
I try not to pout cuz like
Pouting ain't doing shit
I still lost lol
molten oasis
Seems I missed the action
polar canyon
Same
What's the deal with gholdengo rn?
Like what does it work against for people to be using it
Caly ice pre tera?
balmy glen
Iāve seen it on solid meme teams so uh
molten oasis
lmao
https://pokepast.es/aa7bf53ff334bc5a thoughts on this?
im liking cornerstone rn, it feels solid here
polar canyon
It does look nice
Is max max working just fine or is it due to change?
Generally it does remind me of most of your other reg g teams
I think you know why
Not that that's a bad thing
molten oasis
...
small crag
Hey, is there anywhere you can do like non official tournaments?
polar canyon
Hey, is there anywhere you can do like non official tournaments?
Yeah like discord servers and stuff
Probably not here
I don't think people are willing to join in this server
molten oasis
gapdos was eh, howl was eh, snow was eh
the thing ive tried havent been consistently strong
small crag
I don't think people are willing to join in this server
Fair enough, thank you
gentle cragBOT
Fair enough, thank you
soupinc has given 1 Gen Rep to campfire__
polar canyon
Maybe just try a solid team with 5 known solid members and zacian
Unless you find that boring
molten oasis
well, i think the standard thing i have is boring but i also dont exactly have a niche thing to run with it rn
that i like that works
bold geode
Fair enough, thank you
Limitless online tournaments are one way too
molten oasis
mm, ig i can go stare at the builder for something again
bold geode
play.limitlesstcg.com is a site for that, you can find tours there for stuff
molten oasis
so, zac wants a partner thats good into steel and fire types
as it struggles hard into them
bold geode
Great Tusk
polar canyon
Lando i?
molten oasis
lando i isnt niche
bold geode
Gib back Great Tusk meta
molten oasis
lando i is relevant
polar canyon
Does it have to be niche
bold geode
...
polar canyon
Does zacian count as an off meta pick
molten oasis
honestly wouldnt be against trying tusk but idk if tusk actually works
bold geode
greg g
molten oasis
greg g
polar canyon
greg g
bold geode
@mighty stump greg g
molten oasis
k
polar canyon
Reminiscing the good old times of great tusk and the bravest bird back in creg c
polar canyon
I like playing off meta but I can settle for 1 myself
molten oasis
also, wanna try to get a not standard zacian team
bold geode
but having 2 is cool
Hitmontop
molten oasis
hitmontop helps against incin how?
polar canyon
Mienshao?
molten oasis
it gets intimidated and its not like zac needs wide guard
bold geode
I mean it's super effective with CC
Plus it's another Intimidate Mon so you can say fuck Incin harder
polar canyon
Is there any pokemon with mist and prankster
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.27.1
polar canyon
That could be a fun niche pick?
strange fjord
so, zac wants a partner thats good into steel and fire types
Sandy Shocks?
molten oasis
someones done that
polar canyon
Prevents the intimidate drop
molten oasis
the, suicune
molten oasis
yea cuz i dont wanna be copying people, and mist is incredibly niche idt its worthwhile
bold geode
Me copying mfers with Coaching Shifu
polar canyon
Actually a lot gets mist
molten oasis
thats just a thing everyones been picking up tbf
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.27.1
molten oasis
hmm
polar canyon
Support dragonite with mist tailwind and breaking swipe there's your niche pick
I think coaching riolu counts as niche
Probably the lamest "niche" to play but it counts
balmy glen
Is there any pokemon with mist and prankster
My friend got top 16 with mist Suicune at LA
polar canyon
Dragonite @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Inner Focus
Level: 50
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Mist
- Tailwind
- Breaking Swipe
- Helping Hand
What if you just used this
balmy glen
Why tho
molten oasis
balmy glen
Thatās literally just worse Suicune lol
polar canyon
https://pokepast.es/9533fcd805a18293 hmm
Naah
balmy glen
In every way possible thatās a worse Suicune
polar canyon
Thatās literally just worse Suicune lol
Yeah but someone already used suicune and that makes it a no no apparently
polar canyon
I think you're undermining the ability to be original with a pokemon by not using it the exact same way everyone else does
Rather than having to use a pokemon no one uses
I thought it was really cool seeing that one beads of ruin + tera life orb thinderclap bolt on NAIC
not exactly an original mon
Really cool fancy way to use it
molten oasis
I thought it was really cool seeing that one beads of ruin + tera life orb thind...
thats great
still looking at things i could do with zac
im not doing mist suicune stuff
balmy glen
as someone whoās one of the zamazenta innovators with Goltres and know a lot of the people who like to use niche mons you kind of just find the niche yourself through playing a lot and trying new things tbh
polar canyon
Maybe garticuno is the next niche pick who knows
balmy glen
Itās not really something you can just ask others for a niche pick for tbh
polar canyon
lando t is an option to experiment then
That's less original than suicune ngl
balmy glen
Especially if your trying to be original
polar canyon
True
molten oasis
That's less original than suicune ngl
ok and
polar canyon
If you're not even who came up with it is it really original niche and all that
molten oasis
nvm then, i should have said nothing
polar canyon
Sorry
Well good luck with your efforts
Try to not get too disappointed if you don't manage to find your one signature thing
Not that I don't think you will
molten oasis
sorry i cant ask for things to experiment with, i get the testing part, and thats fine, i still wanna try things out that other people have performed well with cuz ik that works
polar canyon
I think it's still fine if someone suggests something and you work deer with it
Feel free to brainstorm here
If the concern is doing something no one else has done
molten oasis
drop it i get it
polar canyon
Alright alright
I wonder if alomomola is worth looking at
Wide guard, misty terrain, icy wind
chrome knot
Itās not really something you can just ask others for a niche pick for tbh
this when people kept asking abt gothšµāš«
polar canyon
Regenerator stab flip turn for chip
75 base attack is not good but like it's not bad for a stab utility move getting chip damage
Actually, it has wish flip turn
Wonder if that can be useful in doubles
With that base hp it's like a full heal
Alomomola ting lu eternatus stall is real
balmy glen
this when people kept asking abt gothšµāš«
Goth isnāt that niche
polar canyon
Not something you think of early even
chrome knot
ok well
polar canyon
High level comp player brains work differently you don't count
polar canyon
no hes just a freaky person
He likes the tall goth girls?
chrome knot
maybe idk?
polar canyon
The tall goth girl that traps you
balmy glen
also I was brainstorming psychic types for Zamazenta at the time
chrome knot
also I was brainstorming psychic types for Zamazenta at the time
aint nobody matching zams freak
molten oasis
polar canyon
Dang without urshifu that looks like incineroar food
balmy glen
At the time I think I was thinking Goth safety goggles with Zama AV ttar
chrome knot
At the time I think I was thinking Goth safety goggles with Zama AV ttar
sash bulky goth was goated on cir
polar canyon
Maybe I'll try to cook with alomomola bulky team later today
Maybe that regenerator + wish flip turn does come in handy
balmy glen
Alo has a niche in DOU gs cup so maybe
polar canyon
Wide guard can come in handy
That leaves a final move slot that could just be protect which also goes with wish
molten oasis
managed to beat an ice rider with this
molten oasis
thats an option yea
polar canyon
Or mist to prevent intimidate
It has the anti incineroar toolkit
There should be an item that lengthens the miscellaneous timed field effects like safeguard mist or lucky chant
We do have terrain extender and light clay
It could make for cool niche sets
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.27.1
polar canyon
Oh this is better than misty terrain nvm
It doesn't protect the opponent as a side effect
balmy glen
There are some interesting people in comp discussion
molten oasis
kyogre might be an issue, with amoonguss
bold geode
Yeah yeah Skibidi rizz
Did you hear about the kid that iirc got DQed at a local due to brain rot
polar canyon
There are some interesting people in comp discussion
I'll choose to take this as a compliment
polar canyon
Yeah yeah Skibidi rizz
Did you hear about the kid that iirc got DQed at a local ...
What are there rules against that
Rules against ohio rizzlers
He probably talks in the reddit ai reading voice
bold geode
Basically some kid at some local (I forget if for VG or TCG9 would not stop saying brain rot, just kept saying shit like "Skibidi toilet Ohio rizz" or whatever and an opponent called a judge on them cuz they were getting annoyed and they either just gave the kid a loss or gave him a loss and DQed him
molten oasis
ok i see why people like grimmsnarl lol, twave is so good
polar canyon
Bruh even if it was annoying are they really allowed to do that
polar canyon
ok i see why people like grimmsnarl lol, twave is so good
I've been using twave scream tail for a while
polar canyon
Bruh even if it was annoying are they really allowed to do that
Giving someone a loss because they're annoying
bold geode
ok i see why people like grimmsnarl lol, twave is so good
See mfer I told you
bold geode
Bruh even if it was annoying are they really allowed to do that
I mean it can fall under disorderly comduct
polar canyon
Me when I'm playing an official vg premier challenge and the spirit of ohio ishowspeed takes over me
bold geode
You're not allowed to speak anymore
polar canyon
You know
What's stopping the zac + alomomola from being real
It drago doesn't try it I might
willow vault
What's stopping the zac + alomomola from being real
What quality does alomomola bring that other water types donāt for it to be worthwhile?
polar canyon
What quality does alomomola bring that other water types donāt for it to be wort...
Wide guard, regen flip turn, safeguard(maybe?(or mist?)), the 165 base hp wish if you have a bulky team
stark kindle
The tall goth girl that traps you
r/nocontext
polar canyon
Gothitelle was a mistake
bold geode
r/nocontext
Honestly worse than the guy wanting piks
polar canyon
Who's the guy wanting piks
molten oasis
See mfer I told you
fr
bold geode
Oh nothing
You wouldn't get it
molten oasis
also, lando t grimm aint too bad
bold geode
Drago and Mickey know
molten oasis
until i see kyogre then i get washed lol
polar canyon
Drago and Mickey know
Are you trying to make me more curious
molten oasis
Drago and Mickey know
polar canyon
Twave shoulda had perfect accuracy when an electric type uses it
Toxic does for poison types so I don't see why twave can't
strange fjord
wil-o-wisp should have perfect accuracy when used by a fire type as well?
strange fjord
sleep powder should has perfect accuracy when used by a grass type 
polar canyon
Spore has 100 accuracy when used by a grass type so I think that counts
strange fjord
nah but toxic's accuracy hits past evasion when used by a poison type
not the same as 100% accuracy
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.27.1
polar canyon
Yeah but who wants never missing spore
molten oasis
welp, i need better shit for CSR incin
strange fjord
if you want t-wave equality, the we want all status moves equality lol
molten oasis
set up is free, stupid mon
polar canyon
Tbh evasion strats are less like sportsmanlike stuff than sleep spam
strange fjord
bruh, toxic even hits pokemon underground using dig 
polar canyon
set up is free, stupid mon
Does that mean you do want wide guard?
Some non 100 accuracy moves don't make sense
Like, poison gas
How do you dodge the air becoming poisonous
polar canyon
Flying types should be immune to spore for that exact reason now that I think about it
In terms of logic
Why can't they just blow away spores
How heavy are those spores
jovial storm
ALRIGHT! Got the weekend off, MMOs are only gonna keep my attention for so long, time to try and get some Rank Ribbons.
polar canyon
Nice what teams are you trying to use for competitive?
I miss my swsh rank master pyukumuku
jovial storm
So, Calyrex and Zama still busted or did the way battles are done differently in the two weeks or so I havenāt played?
polar canyon
It better be back in gen 10
polar canyon
So, Calyrex and Zama still busted or did the way battles are done differently in...
They're busted and always will be
People are just finding more ways to deal with that fact
And actively looking for more ways
Miraidon was also found to be busted since the start of reg g btw
To an extent
It's still not stronger than calyrex
autumn vault
Calyrex is the stupid ass legendary of the generation
polar canyon
Calyrex is the stupid ass legendary of the generation
Of the last generation
It just carries that title until now
autumn vault
Gen 4 had Kyogre, gen 6 had P-Groudon and Xerneas, Gen 7 more or less the same and P-Kyogre, Gen 8 Zacian and now Gen 9 Calyrex
strange fjord
Why can't they just blow away spores
grass types just blow away powder moves. no other type has thought of doing this tho
polar canyon
Calyrex ice is more stupid to fight when the opponent plays well
autumn vault
True
polar canyon
Caly shadow is just easier to learn
molten oasis
im done man, i just get rolled infront of a CSR
autumn vault
CIR always finds ways to ruin our days
polar canyon
That makes caly shadow feel worse to lose against imo
autumn vault
CSR has less partners it can abuse
polar canyon
Because you know the person using it might not even be better than you
autumn vault
Atleast compared to CIR
jovial storm
Hmmm. So it sounds like Shadow Rider is my best bet if I wanted to go easy. But the team would also be important. And that statement might be fact.
polar canyon
Just using an easy to use busted pokemon
molten oasis
hate it man
polar canyon
Hmmm. So it sounds like Shadow Rider is my best bet if I wanted to go easy. Bu...
Yep yep
jovial storm
So, between Zama and Caly, which should I go with?
molten oasis
like, i managed to win getting a rock slide flinch but i still just, ugh
jovial storm
I could probably find out good team comps online for any of these mons.
Just a matter of preference.
polar canyon
So, between Zama and Caly, which should I go with?
Zama is not as broken as caly I think
strange fjord
Every well balanced team has some way to slow down Caly-Shadow down tho. so watch out for what that might be in team preview
polar canyon
Broken doesn't mean like impossible to beat
autumn vault
Zama is not as broken as caly I think
I agree
strange fjord
could be tera normal, or dark type sucker
jovial storm
Hmmm.
molten oasis
shadow rider is probably easier to use
strange fjord
the calys are the best restricteds in the format
erm actually. its cosmog
molten oasis
ice rider is the most consistent
strange fjord
haven't seen anyone loses with that
jovial storm
Just need to get to Master Rank so I can get Rank Master Ribbons on more Pokemon I like.
molten oasis
erm actually. its cosmog
you're so right my bad
polar canyon
Also remember that just using calyrex doesn't give you auto wins, you need to know how to use them, albeit it's easier to play well with shadow rider than ice rider, and ice rider is arguably better when you're good at both
jovial storm
Any Pokemon is going to be rough to use at the start. I wasn't great at using Urshifu until I got used to it.
torn parrot
I have a mystery for you all
molten oasis
i think i need a better line for CSR with, lando zac is what im gonna start with
strange fjord
I have a mystery for you all
the answer is 42?
molten oasis
gonna bring therian out for a bit
jovial storm
What's Zac?
molten oasis
zacian
jovial storm
Ah.
autumn vault
I have a mystery for you all
34?
polar canyon
i think i need a better line for CSR with, lando zac is what im gonna start with
So what's that gonna do
jovial storm
Go Incineroar.
torn parrot
My friend sent me this replay
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2147613321-f5c57a6lb81g40dt3d434ra6mhm99rjpw
The ogerpon one shot the Urshifu through reflect with no crit
But we canāt figure out how
Itās not a roll
jovial storm
I want to get my Incineroar a Rank Master Ribbon so I plan to use him.
molten oasis
lando t is fun, i like scarf
polar canyon
My friend sent me this replay
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024re...
Do I have to watch it or can you just tell what mask ogerpon it is
molten oasis
its solid
autumn vault
You never knew how to think
So you know the dark thing behind 34 right?
bold geode
https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-nope-gif-4095597578532971838
This sets the stage perfectly then
Hitmontop
polar canyon
I want to get my Incineroar a Rank Master Ribbon so I plan to use him.
That should be nice since it's currently the best pokemon in the game uncontested
molten oasis
This sets the stage perfectly then
Hitmontop
im playing lando t atm so, no
jovial storm
Yeah, but learning to use him effectively will be my issue.
jovial storm
Can't just slap him on the team and expect to win.
polar canyon
Oh wood hammer
strange fjord
252+ Atk Cornerstone Mask Ogerpon-Cornerstone Wood Hammer vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Urshifu-Rapid-Strike through Reflect: 169-201 (96 - 114.2%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO
oh you're playing again?
polar canyon
I was wondering how horn leech could do that
torn parrot
oh you're playing again?
Oh nah thatās my friend who sent me the replay
molten oasis
ah
strange fjord
Scarfed Urshifu while paralyzed speed is 122, so ogerpon goes first
bold geode
im playing lando t atm so, no
Honestly I just wanna watch you suffer lmao
polar canyon
Scarfed Urshifu while paralyzed speed is 122, so ogerpon goes first
It's a good number to remember
bold geode
```
252+ Atk Cornerstone Mask Ogerpon-Cornerstone Wood Hammer vs. 4 HP / 0 Def U...
Urshifu's physical bulk ain't bad
molten oasis
it was that bad to run?
polar canyon
Urshifu's physical bulk ain't bad
Aint it 100 100
bold geode
It's not the best thing, but it's not horrible
molten oasis
ic
polar canyon
I just was confused because I thought it would be horn leech and that so doesn't kill urshifu
torn parrot
Itās an unsolvable mystery
bold geode
I just wanna see you experience it lmao
molten oasis
through a short session i do think lando t works okay
i think you just go jolly instead of adamant to outspeed urshifu
strange fjord
Itās an unsolvable mystery
doubles makes the reflect weaker btw
bold geode
Actually I think Hitmontop is a little tougher to run
Hell I figured out my team is harder to run than I thought
torn parrot
doubles makes the reflect weaker btw
AWhat
polar canyon
Yeah it's 1/3
torn parrot
I NEVER KNEW THIS
molten oasis
the more you know
strange fjord
its 1/3 in doubles and 1/2 in singles
torn parrot
THIS WHOLE TIME
polar canyon
A surprising amount of people I've seen didn't know that
polar canyon
Same applies to aurora veil
And light screen ofc
Man if screens were 1/2 in doubles they would be in like half of all teams
It would be stupid to not use screens
strange fjord
i would run brick break lol
torn parrot
Was it ever 1/2 then nerfed or was it always that way
polar canyon
It's been like that from the start of me playing competitive
Maybe back when doubles were just introduced
strange fjord
In gen 3, when doubles was introduced, it did that
polar canyon
Are you that old tho
strange fjord
who, me?
polar canyon
Maya
strange fjord
maybe, or maybe she just never knew
polar canyon
Like having gen 3 be your introduction to pokemon
molten oasis
It's been like that from the start of me playing competitive
hits fire and steel for SE, the thing zac no like, and fast pivot
the lando btw
you asked so
also intimidate for my side is nice
bold geode
Aight I'm making a play I haven't in a minute
Changing to Water Tera Urshifu Rapid
I ain't killing Flutter with Surging Strikes, and it's sad
chrome knot
@balmy glen have you ever dealt with burn out / felt very uninspired but lived on what felt to be a time crunch
nocturne holly
Woah itās been a while since I played vgc
I think like 4 months
bold geode
<@350152416815218688> have you ever dealt with burn out / felt very uninspired b...
I have
bold geode
Woah itās been a while since I played vgc
I think like 4 months
Holy fuck he lives
nocturne holly
Holy fuck he lives
Shii itās monke
bold geode
Been a minute for sure
bold geode
Good, how you been
nocturne holly
Iām good
Gonna hopefully (maybe) get back into comp
bold geode
Do you like horse stables?
nocturne holly
no
bold geode
Do you like horses
bold geode
Aight good
You gonna see a lot of em
You actually might not like em as much lol
nocturne holly
I donāt like ghost horses
bold geode
Lmao
They've only got more optimal
nocturne holly
What about ice horse is he like bad
chrome knot
(?)
strange fjord
ice horse sucks. cosmog is the new meta. it won like every regional
chrome knot
caly ice has been the most consistent restricted
strange fjord
not as consistent as cosmog
chrome knot
go enjoy #sv_discussion please you arenāt meant to be here if youāre just trolling
strange fjord
i make one joke and get sentenced to #sv_discussion smh
chrome knot
is just annoying
bold geode
What about ice horse is he like bad
Solid AF
bold geode
I don't particularly other than one Zamazenta rental
Had a better one but I had to nuke it
HOWEVER if you're looking for Ice Rider
https://pokepast.es/9ed9da515f908de1
While it ain't a rental, here's the team that won NAIC
strange fjord
we got a few #rental_teams tho, might need to scroll a bit to find a team you might like
foggy lodge
There is also a variant that is just instead of Rilla it uses Amoonguss and AV Raging
balmy glen
<@350152416815218688> have you ever dealt with burn out / felt very uninspired b...
I used to be a professional pubg player that played everyday for 7-8 hours and was fine. Iām very competitive at my core so getting wins helps kill burnout for me
chrome knot
i see
scarlet mist
Hey there, I wanna build a garganacl for my definitive team for that generation and Iām hesitating between maxing out hp or defense (for big splash)
chrome knot
i come from competitive mario kart so idk
foggy lodge
How is competitive mario kart? Lol
chrome knot
its aight
scarlet mist
So Iām looking for some advice
strange fjord
Hey there, I wanna build a garganacl for my definitive team for that generation ...
are you doing singles or doubles?
autumn vault
I never loved Competitive MK8D
chrome knot
im a wii player
foggy lodge
Ah makes sense
autumn vault
I played Wii but i for some reason keep getting myself distracted with other things
scarlet mist
are you doing singles or doubles?
Singles, itās just a team that Iāll consider as my scarlet team
bold geode
you have any good rentals
Also on that NAIC team I showed, you can probably find his team on YouTube as well
Might be a rental of it there
nocturne holly
Also on that NAIC team I showed, you can probably find his team on YouTube as we...
do you know of miraidon team
chrome knot
Singles, itās just a team that Iāll consider as my scarlet team
bruh u dont need a competitive team to beat the game i dont think
autumn vault
do you know of miraidon team
There are several Miraidon teams you can play, i don't have any teams
But someone here definitely does
foggy lodge
I have the Rajan Bal team
bold geode
do you know of miraidon team
No rental here, but you can DEFINITELY find rentals of that on YouTube
It won Indy after all
autumn vault
Or people from Regionals
foggy lodge
Let me search it
scarlet mist
bruh u dont need a competitive team to beat the game i dont think
I know, I just like making my teams as strong as they can be so I can also bring them online and put up a fight
strange fjord
Singles, itās just a team that Iāll consider as my scarlet team
typically i see garganacl go for HP and Sp.Def and have iron defense and naturally high defense stats to not invest too much
chrome knot
I used to be a professional pubg player that played everyday for 7-8 hours and w...
i feel stuck rn this format isnt very inspiring & I have solarflare coming up which is like a $500 prizepool local before worlds
foggy lodge
nocturne holly
https://pokepast.es/00046226f193fbbd
Thxx
strange fjord
something like Iron Defense, Body Press, Salt Cure and Recover would work for singles Garganacl. with max hp and sp def
scarlet mist
typically i see garganacl go for HP and Sp.Def and have iron defense and natural...
Alright thanks
gentle cragBOT
Alright thanks
supergamerdz has given 1 Gen Rep to pizza.time
autumn vault
I'm taking a break from competitive pokemon, my main's elo dropped drastically from 1500 to lower than 1200
The 1st image is an alt
It's an idea of the elo i had
strange fjord
Taking a break is good. helps clear the mind before you can play more competitive
autumn vault
Yeah, I have been getting shit RNG, making stupid-ass plays without thought and just generally losing a lot
next stump
i feel stuck rn this format isnt very inspiring & I have solarflare coming up wh...
whenās the local?
chrome knot
July 14th
strange fjord
don't want to burn out before the tournament happens
next stump
my friend did some coaching with Jeudy a while back and one of the best pieces of advice that he gave was regarding for tourney prep
chrome knot
do you have something in mind?
I have a cir team i won an mss with & a variant of it very similar to pat cons
next stump
He said for him personally, heād rather play 3-5 quality Bo3 sets per day (usually against friends, sometimes on ladder) than sit and spam games all day
chrome knot
i hate ladder tbf
next stump
Thatās really only an hour or so per day, which shouldnāt be enough to make you burn out
chrome knot
wouldnt play that regardless tho my build group for this event has been like olivia moledzki & kylan v s so i could defo run games with them
just personally feel at a wall rn
next stump
I get that for sure, feeling similarly right now. Do you have other games that you enjoy to get your mind off pokƩmon for a few days?
chrome knot
ive been grinding mario kart wii wars
next stump
I havenāt played in like 10 days and I am finally really wanting to play again
strange fjord
you also dont want to build a last minute team and gamble your performance with an unfamiliar team
maybe take a break and when you come back, you can look at your team and get a fresh look at what it needs
molten oasis
https://pokepast.es/b54be129fe615183 thoughts on other members for this? something im testing out a little but unsure on a 5th and 6th
foggy lodge
What do you think about Goltres over Grimm?
balmy glen
just personally feel at a wall rn
Iām the type of person who gets really hooked on things I find fun so I never really get bored tbh. But I did play 4 sports in highschool so now I kind of find myself just hanging out with my gf/friends/family and then hard grinding for worlds
molten oasis
What do you think about Goltres over Grimm?
why?
balmy glen
I think if you feel like your at a wall you should go find other things like sports/friends/etc that you enjoy and even if just a small one take a break
molten oasis
not sure how badly i want to spike the core into 3 ice weaknesses that early
balmy glen
Something I used to do in pubg and I do now in pokemon is take like a 15 min break to just chill or exercise after even just one bo3 lol
foggy lodge
not sure how badly i want to spike the core into 3 ice weaknesses that early
A true mb
But are you sure about Grimm without screens?
I've never played against one so idk if it's good without the screens
balmy glen
wat in the world
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.27.1
autumn vault
i forgot its gimmick š¦
Terastalizing
foggy lodge
When terastalizzed tera starstorm hits super effective against terastillized pokemon
balmy glen
i forgot its gimmick š¦
cooking u
foggy lodge
Also that
balmy glen
its what it does best
autumn vault
And also getting Wide Spread Tera Starstorm
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.27.1
autumn vault
And unlike pre-terastal Starstorm, it actually has 0 resistances
polar canyon
Cant believe I lost to a tornadus heat wave burn
autumn vault
polar canyon
And unlike pre-terastal Starstorm, it actually has 0 resistances
Supereffective against 19 types
molten oasis
I've never played against one so idk if it's good without the screens
idea is being able to pivot in and out with parting shot and u-turn
through lando rilla and grimm, cycle so zac can get sd up and sweep
lando hits fire and steel types for zac
polar canyon
Teams with that flexible in and out switching are the best
Usually it's incin parting shot and rilla u-turn tho
nocturne holly
what are some good dragon types other than bolt
polar canyon
Slow pivots are pretty good
polar canyon
Just had a fire punch rapid strike urshifu ko my rilla in sun
I won still but I found it neat
I pinned their kyogre against sun
nocturne holly
still trying this out
drago what is your zac calced for
molten oasis
drago what is your zac calced for
hits 209 speed max attack hp dump
nocturne holly
hits 209 speed max attack hp dump
what is 209 for
molten oasis
outspeeds everything except scarf guys and CSR, also max speed modest bloodmoon in tw
molten oasis
ok well guess im on my own for the team
foggy lodge
what are some good dragon types other than bolt
Regidrago
Miraidon, Koraidon
Archaludon and Gouging Fire too
nocturne holly
anyone have a calm mind bolt spread
foggy lodge
And Walking Wake ig? But it doesn't have any good results in tournaments so idk if it counts
forest arrow
Im good, hope youre well
nocturne holly
Yea I am
balmy glen
4 months is crazy
polar canyon
outspeeds everything except scarf guys and CSR, also max speed modest bloodmoon ...
Max speed modest blood moon in tw seems very specific
polar canyon
yup lol i think its been 4 months
Has it really been that long
Man you're gonna love calyrex
molten oasis
Max speed modest blood moon in tw seems very specific
its a thing that some bloodmoons on miraidon teams run
polar canyon
Behemoth blade and bash shouldve had double damage in raid battles
It would make sense
And would be really convenient since zacian is great there
storm gulch
Guys important,a good build for Baxcalibur Electric Tera Type?
nocturne holly
Has it really been that long
Yea šš
polar canyon
Guys important,a good build for Baxcalibur Electric Tera Type?
For regulation g vgc? Everything about that would go wrong
nocturne holly
Iām not as rusty as I thought Iād be
I just needa get around these restricteds
nocturne holly
Guys important,a good build for Baxcalibur Electric Tera Type?
Why electric
storm gulch
For regulation g vgc? Everything about that would go wrong
The best build possible i need to study him
polar canyon
The best build possible i need to study him
Why that guy specifically
storm gulch
Why electric
I caught it with that Tera Type
storm gulch
Why that guy specifically
Cuz i want to test him
polar canyon
If you plan on using baxcalibur online for ranked I'd really not advise to actually do that
Especially now
storm gulch
clear amulet or loaded dice imo
Loaded Dice with Scale Shot and Icicle Spear?
polar canyon
Clear amulet should still be better if you do use bax which you shouldn't
Because of incineroar
Unless you wanna use it for single battles
Idk maybe it's still good in bss
I have no idea what's going on in that format
Reg g bss sounds like a crazy place
nocturne holly
āļø
storm gulch
Ain't planning to give him Glaive Rush
nocturne holly
why
storm gulch
It's a suicide move i take 2X damage unless i do something
storm gulch
Is it for online pvp that you're asking
Yes
storm gulch
Singles
polar canyon
Most people here won't have any idea what's good for that
storm gulch
Crap
polar canyon
No one plays battle stadium singles reg g
No one plays battle stadium singles really
Most singles players migrate from official game to smogon rulesets in showdown
polar canyon
Iām not *as* rusty as I thought Iād be
I just needa get around these restricted...
Have you tried any of them yet
It is a funny feeling format at first
It's interesting to think of it like a fighting game with a roster of like 15 ish viable ones
And 4-5 being the meta ones
You pick one main and each fighter has its good and bad matchups due to their different movesets
nocturne holly
Have you tried any of them yet
Yea Iām playing around with Zac
polar canyon
@molten oasis found your long lost brother
nocturne holly
speaking of https://pokepast.es/0401fde8a653e687
Thoughts on this
I need an amoonguss spread and a 6th member
polar canyon
Drago wants to be THE zacian guy
balmy glen
You would have to go to worlds with Zacian to be THE Zacian guy tbh
molten oasis
im not the zacian guy
polar canyon
I said he wants to be THE zacian guy
molten oasis
i just like zacian
polar canyon
You do don't you
molten oasis
not really
polar canyon
You're the servers zacian guy tho
molten oasis
i dont have the skill to do that
polar canyon
Officially the competitive discussion zacian guy
molten oasis
i guarantee theres other people that can give better advice on zacian than me
polar canyon
like not using it
molten oasis
im not a top performing player, im a very average player
my opinion doesn't really matter
polar canyon
*speaking of* https://pokepast.es/0401fde8a653e687
Thoughts on this
I need an ...
Hear me out wyd if a groudon shows up
polar canyon
Not that it's super common but it's something you can look at the team and know you need an answer for
nocturne holly
Hear me out wyd if a groudon shows up
I need 6th member that would help me with that
I think maybe dual weather might be cool to try
polar canyon
Not sure about that
Most of the time you do wanna focus your main strategies around the restricted too and idk if you want like sun zacian
balmy glen
Dang Clam Groudon really solos that team lmao
polar canyon
Clam is the best way to say clear amulet
molten oasis
pelipper looks solid
balmy glen
Honestly not much other 6th mon u can get better value than pellipper
polar canyon
Pelipper is pretty nice rn
molten oasis
then give incin wisp over blitz
balmy glen
yeah lol
Uhhhh
Tbh the incin stuff is mostly preference I have helping hand on mine rn
polar canyon
Yeah incin likes wisp and maybe snarl a lot rn
nocturne holly
Pelipper also has wide guard for caly s
polar canyon
I'm more of a fo knock snarl u-turn av guy
jade dust
Hi, how do I give Calyrex ice the moves Glastrier learns?
High horse power and heavy slam and so on
nocturne holly
Or hh might be cool
molten oasis
jade dust
He cant learn them in remembered moves
next stump
Hi, how do I give Calyrex ice the moves Glastrier learns?
High Horsepower is a TM for Caly-Ice, teach it to it once youāve combined
jade dust
Damn
balmy glen
Tbh for that team Iād prob go like fake out koff parting hh
jade dust
I hate grinding for TMS
polar canyon
Hi, how do I give Calyrex ice the moves Glastrier learns?
You don't get the glastrier moves tou just get glacial lance
But calyrex itself gets high horsepower
next stump
Keep in mind you also lose PP Ups once you unbind them, so donāt PP Up Glacial Lance until youāre done with the pokemon
polar canyon
No reason to want moves from glastrier anyways
The calyless horses are known to have pretty lacking movepools
The good moves they have calyrex also does
balmy glen
I mean they have to lack something
they were given $90 broken move + stats already lmaooo
polar canyon
I mean they have to lack something
Yeah we don't want calyrex lite in no restricteds lol
Astral barrage psychic spectrier would be crazy
nocturne holly
Thx @balmy glen @polar canyon @molten oasis
gentle cragBOT
Thx <@350152416815218688> <@656870497014906880> <@465881273454559252>
.begulajr. has given 1 Gen Rep to keanufps, campfire__, drayagedrago
nocturne holly
Also anyone have an amoonguss and pelipper spread š
polar canyon
- it has stab for koraidon, tera fire koraidon, groudon and tera fire groudon
nocturne holly
hydro or hurricane?
nocturne holly
oh yea hydro isnāt acc boosted in rain
nocturne holly
Dual stab is how it's used now
Do you have a spread?
polar canyon
It's max max sash
nocturne holly
wide guard tw energy hurricane?
polar canyon
If you mean weather ball yeah
It's the standard set
Sometimes swap something for protect I think but no protect is fine
Zacian has been pretty mid post nerf but it's nice when you manage to make it work
forest arrow
Yeah i prefer protect but TW is fine too
polar canyon
If you told a gen 8 player that zacian is mid and zamazenta is a top tier meta threat they would never believe it
nocturne holly
If you told a gen 8 player that zacian is mid and zamazenta is a top tier meta t...
I didnāt believe it when I saw it either
why is zam so good
forest arrow
body press
nocturne holly
š
polar canyon
Rather why didn't it have body press in the generation they introduced body press
nocturne holly
tf it didnāt??
forest arrow
No
polar canyon
Idbp but it's not a meme strat it's crazy
nocturne holly
Bro isnāt itās whole thing itās defense
polar canyon
Yeah and it's meant to defend attacks
I guess they didn't wanna give it an offensive move that makes it as offensive as zacian
If zacians whole thing is offense
But then they changed their minds
People even use heavy slam over behemoth bash too
120 bp kills mane through intimidate and 100 doesn't
molten oasis
Zacian has been pretty mid post nerf but it's nice when you manage to make it wo...
zac is fine
nocturne holly
It was as high as incin iirc
forest arrow
its at about 20% now
nocturne holly
Yea
polar canyon
im surprised mane dropped in usage since I last played
I mean it's getting ohkod by caly ice caly shadow zama zacian miraidon what else
You usually see it in teams with chi-yu still ig
polar canyon
zac is fine
Yeah but is it like restricted legendary slot worth of fine
I think I'm gonna try starting to think of a restricted to use alomomola with now
I wanna try mola
I'm surprised that one of my favorite mons to use this gen has been support volcarona
nocturne holly
Anyone have amoonguss spread š
polar canyon
I never really pulled it off in last regulations
polar canyon
Anyone have amoonguss spread š
If you're desperate copy and paste a set from smogon until you find a better one
molten oasis
Yeah but is it like restricted legendary slot worth of fine
yea
its similar to koraidon, they're just harder to use
polar canyon
I guess I can't argue against that as a koraidon player
I still think koraidon is on top
molten oasis
i think of the good restricteds zac is the hardest mon to use
polar canyon
If only it could be as easy as giving it a clear amulet
bold geode
im surprised mane dropped in usage since I last played
CSR is a mfer
daring field
https://pokepast.es/2169a5518d1c5470
This is the first team I have ever built could someone rate it and give me some tips?
molten oasis
If only it could be as easy as giving it a clear amulet
well for some reason
CSR and CIR's items are just a key item
but then zac and zama's are held items
ik CSR and CIR are fusion guys but still
silver ravine
How does ev training work for CSR and CIR? Is it considered it's on mon, so you'd need to fuse them and then ev train?
balmy glen
How does ev training work for CSR and CIR? Is it considered it's on mon, so you'...
No u just ev train the king
silver ravine
No u just ev train the king
Little strange, but bet. Thank you
gentle cragBOT
Little strange, but bet. Thank you
striferealists has given 1 Gen Rep to keanufps
silver ravine
I'm assuming the ball used is the one you caught the king in as well correct?
silver ravine
Shit. Kinda wished I used a luxury ball now, but premier is better for Calyrex
balmy glen
I just used a master ball cuz aināt nobody got time for that
bold geode
Consider it that way
Tofu
Can a 50% TClap roll onto Scarf Urshifu be optimal?
bold geode
Ok
So I had a dumbass idea
Pros: I can run Water tera and roll 1/16 the TClap
Cons: 100 attack EVs are left lmfao
Cuz even with max attack Adamant, I need Water tera to still guarantee KO on Flutter with Surging
So I'm like hell let's try to live
(Leo actually did the 50%, but I went for 1/16)
Can live TClap and Tera Water Surging with 100 EVs still guarantees (non doesn't roll but like missing KOs anyways is kinda depressing here)
silver ravine
Gm Tofu
bold geode
Anyways Tofu think it can work, or no
polar canyon
Or make it single strike
mighty stump
You canāt just swap, the dynamic changes.
balmy glen
Nah just run drain punch poison jab surging strikes u-turn Urshifu yw
bold geode
If you want an Urshifu to live TClap just ask for mine
But it Scarf though
bold geode
Nah just run drain punch poison jab surging strikes u-turn Urshifu yw
I saw the D Punch one
Is that actually
mighty stump
But it Scarf though
Just Tera Grass at that point lmao
bold geode
Just Tera Grass at that point lmao
Lmao ok so I guess I'll either do the 50% roll or just fuck it we ball
bold geode
Just Tera Grass at that point lmao
Honestly fuck it we gonna give the dumb idea a try
I miss bulky Scarf bruh
If it don't work, I'll just cry myself to sleep cuz Scarf Shifu can't have much bulk cuz it has to outspeed the fucking horse
Why is the horse so fucking fast
Actually might just do the 50/50 roll
If we lose it, it won't change much
molten oasis
If it don't work, I'll just cry myself to sleep cuz Scarf Shifu can't have much ...
cuz they thought 150 speed was cool
bold geode
It's bullshit
molten oasis
It's bullshit
well, yea
but also, we cant change the stats unless they decide to nerf the caly's
cyan smelt
Just use tera ghost Regieleki
molten oasis
Just use tera ghost Regieleki
tera ghost eleki when it gets oblitterated by any attack
strange fjord
tera ghost eleki when it gets oblitterated by any attack
not extreme speed 
molten oasis
not extreme speed <:sylveonsmug:918656708342075392>
wood hammer from any grass type
strange fjord
252 Atk Cornerstone Mask Ogerpon-Cornerstone Power Whip vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Regieleki: 199-235 (106.4 - 125.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
damn youre right
imagine power whip is wood hammer
molten oasis
mhmm
molten oasis
clear amulet, miracle seed/grassy plate are options
fickle void
Alr
Oo just looked up what it do
Very nice
Also unsure what to use on flutter mane since im usin a sun team
molten oasis
focus sash
fickle void
Taken
molten oasis
by?
molten oasis
do you have a paste?
fickle void
A whats it now?
molten oasis
pokepaste
bold geode
The Overqwil team is on Cybertron's channel now
fickle void
Nah
molten oasis
do you play on showdown?
fickle void
Nope
molten oasis
that limits things, ok
fickle void
Vgc doubles
molten oasis
go to a website called showdown, there is a teambuilder there
fickle void
Unsure if its still best to use booster energy
molten oasis
build the team, then on the botton of the team page theres a button taht says "upload to pokepaste" or smth along those lines
fickle void
K
molten oasis
do that, then i can take a better look at the team
molten oasis
no
polar canyon
clear amulet, miracle seed/grassy plate are options
I never see clear amulet on it
Surprisingly
Usually because it's taken by a more important oppressive attacker ig
But even when it's not I see more grassy seed than amulet
molten oasis
I never see clear amulet on it
i use clear amulet occasionally
cuz i dont run a restricted that needs it
(or use it for the matter)
mighty stump
Fake out and donāt die <a:snooze_cat1:654072393760768006>
Covert Cloak Tera Grass Urshifu lets gooooo
balmy glen
lets gooo
knotty mirage
I have question can moongeist beam ignore vessel of ruin ability or will it still get affected by it ?
dapper crag
SableyeBot version 4.27.1
lofty tartan
I have question can moongeist beam ignore vessel of ruin ability or will it stil...
Yes. Moongeist Beam SHOULD ignore Vessel of Ruin as it negatively impacts the outcome of Beam.
That's how I'm reading it from the "ignorable abilities" table.
Despite being mechanically similar to ignorable Abilities, Magic Guard, Comatose, Shields Down, Full Metal Body, Shadow Shield, and Prism Armor cannot be ignored in any game.
knotty mirage
Hmm
mighty stump
Yeah but thatās Mold Breaker though
lofty tartan
Mold Breaker and Moongeist Beam function the same.
Like Moongeist Beam carries the effects of Mold Breaker
mighty stump
Different slots: One is a move and the other an Ability though
lofty tartan
Effect
Main article: Ignoring Abilities
Moongeist Beam inflicts damage, ignoring all ignorable Abilities during the execution of that move. (Ignorable Abilities are most Abilities that could potentially negatively affect the success, damage, or effects of a move if possessed by the target of a move or its alliesāsuch as Multiscale and Friend Guard.) However, it does not ignore Abilities if it is called by another move rather than directly used.
mighty stump
Guess it does
lofty tartan
And it leads you to the prior ignorable abilities table.
mighty stump
Okie dokie
knotty mirage
Oh okay that makes sense now i just wonder why moongeist beam can ohko my terrastalized ting lu
lofty tartan
What Tera?
knotty mirage
Fairy actually
lofty tartan
Is it AV?
knotty mirage
It hold sitrus berry
knotty mirage
Or did you invest correctly
I mean i'm not that good at investing EV so probably
lofty tartan
There's a lot of things that could be at play there. Depends on what happened in the game - was the Lunala boosting SpAtk during the match - we don't know how that Lunala was invested, and other things xD
So probably a few factors.
knotty mirage
The lunala do terra into ghost
lofty tartan
That would boost Beam's damage some more
south shuttle
mighty stump
Rng
plain drum
charred saddle
pog
mighty stump
Still no clue what to build
charred saddle
shitt
wet wedge
Just one shot opposing Kyogre from full with spread Calyrex-I Glacial Lance
+2 helping hand
I love VGC.
next stump
it's a beautiful game
wet wedge
Indeed it is.
next stump
I wish there was more daily youtube content for VGC
the small channels that exist are usually not great at explaining their thought process like cybertron is which makes it way less enjoyable to watch
queen monolith
Would the raid emboar be good as is for competitive play?
next stump
are you wanting to play singles or doubles?
although I think the answer for both would be no
queen monolith
Cause of the Tera or no?
next stump
emboar is a pretty bad pokemon
zinc totem
any advices to deal with gimmicks like after you clefairy?
next stump
also raid pokemon are not EV trained
bold geode
the small channels that exist are usually not great at explaining their thought ...
I know it sucks, I wish they were a bit better with it
next stump
any advices to deal with gimmicks like after you clefairy?
what's your team?
zinc totem
what's your team?
6th pokemon is more wildcard which i dont use as often
next stump
is it mostly clefairy + caly-shadow?
zinc totem
is it mostly clefairy + caly-shadow?
that is actuality very little and i normall manage deal with caly shadow due sucker punch
but its with kyurem-whites or other weird pokemons tbf aswell
and instruct chiyus are pain
charred saddle
all that u explained are very rare tho
zinc totem
yeah but i've met way too many of them x_X
charred saddle
clef caly S is common
zinc totem
well im in great ball tier
but yeah, asking more general advice for after you gimmicks beacuse they really rekt me hard
next stump
So basically you're setting up trick room, they have Clefairy + something that can OHKO you, and then you're getting swept under trick room?
zinc totem
or they manage setup trick room and taunts my indeedee so i cant break it
next stump
do you play in game or on pokemon showdown? it's pretty hard to give specific advice unless we see examples of games you're talking about
zinc totem
and bring clefairy after with pokemon that rekts me
zinc totem
do you play in game or on pokemon showdown? it's pretty hard to give specific ad...
in violet
i mentioned great ball tier
so its not showdown
next stump
in general, after you shouldn't be too bad to deal with for this team. You have Follow Me on Indeedee which completely nullifies After You, two normal types and a dark type to deal with Caly-Shadow (far and away the most popular partner for Clefairy), and Wide Guard to help deal with other spread restricteds
zinc totem
in general, after you shouldn't be too bad to deal with for this team. You have ...
yeah unless indeedee gets taunted
next stump
If you're facing more niche restricteds paired alongside Clefairy, I'd just chalk that up to weird matchups and move on. You won't see that in master ball really
that's true, but calyrex and clefairy cannot have taunt. So if they're leading something with taunt, they probably dont have offensive pressure
you could also run trick room on Lunala for a secondary setter
charred saddle
grimm cant taunt u tho?
zinc totem
you could also run trick room on Lunala for a secondary setter
and replace power herb strat?
charred saddle
u have psychic terrain up
zinc totem
does psychic terrain stop pranksters?
charred saddle
incin is like a chance to have it, since they usually have knockoff flareblittz fakeout parting
ye
chrome knot
if you have psy terrain doesnt it make sense to use expanding force on lunala..?
zinc totem
if you have psy terrain doesnt it make sense to use expanding force on lunala..?
yeah thats what i lead with
in most situations
devout mist
if you have psy terrain doesnt it make sense to use expanding force on lunala..?
Sounds like a pretty bad tech for a move if ya ask me
chrome knot
you dont have expanding force on lunala
charred saddle
Sounds like a pretty bad tech for a move if ya ask me
?? kek
chrome knot
it is literally a psychic ghost type this is not a tech move LOL
zinc totem
you dont have expanding force on lunala
oh i forgot change the picture 
as i have expanding force in-game on lunala
devout mist
it is literally a psychic ghost type this is not a tech move LOL
You need terrain, you have much higher moveslots worth
chrome knot
???
zinc totem
You need terrain, you have much higher moveslots worth
indeedee has psychic terrain?
charred saddle
its like the main support in that team
devout mist
indeedee has psychic terrain?
Not Lunala
chrome knot
bc lunala id ran on BALANCE
chrome knot
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devout mist
yeah
zinc totem
Not Lunala
buit i have always psychic terrain up when i bring indeedee with lunala unless opponent has indeedee too
chrome knot
@mighty stump please save my eyes
devout mist
buit i have always psychic terrain up when i bring indeedee with lunala unless o...
or Rilla or Terapagos
chrome knot
or play betterā¦!
zinc totem
or Rilla or Terapagos
that is not much problem for me unless its calm mind terapagos which i havbe a bit hard time predict
but lunala has wide guard so terapagos wont get off easy
devout mist
that is not much problem for me unless its calm mind terapagos which i havbe a b...
so it's a problem then
terapagos calm mind is real so far
doesn't target lunala specifically
zinc totem
so it's a problem then
people runs specs more in my tier
devout mist
just a byproduct
chrome knot
also better trick room oriented mon to pair with indeedee would be necrozma dawn wings
devout mist
people runs specs more in my tier
I don't speak tier yet
zinc totem
also better trick room oriented mon to pair with indeedee would be necrozma dawn...
i was thinking dawn wings to test
devout mist
I just speak meta and results
chrome knot
yeah try it out, it loses stats in Spe and gains it in SpAtk
devout mist
Very new to this metagame but it's very straightforward
chrome knot
Very new to this metagame but it's very straightforward
I can tell
youāre waffling a whole lot lmfao
devout mist
I can tell
Nah
devout mist
youāre waffling a whole lot lmfao
That means nothing to me sorry, can you explain
chrome knot
im okay