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How could you hate a face like that though. 
I swear u change ur entire discord profile every 2 days
It looks like a sausage shoved into a rock
otot8953 has given 1 Gen Rep to ml_lacius
Huh
WHAT


you look like a sausage shoved into a rock
i mean…
i can kinda see it but it’s still cute
so?
your point is?
Idk
I just think lugia much better
No bias 100%
okay i’m with you there

we need a baby lugia based game
https://pokepast.es/ffa8899150798f6e
are the evs good or should I change smth?
Oh yeah o do like giratina a lot
I think Rilla would like a bit more bulk spdef wise
The concept behind it is my fav part of the mon
both Giratina and Terapagos kinda have the concept part,but i like Giratina's Concept more
This can’t learn geomancy right?
urshifu needs 252SPE to outspeed opposing calyrex-shadow
so do 4/156/0/92/252
Oh yeah is there a reason for the defence stats?
They are very different in concepts…..
ik
also sitrus is probably across the board less useful than safety goggles considering there are plenty of situations where berries cannot be consumed
and it would give you another spore immunity
they have concepts on their respective lore,but i like Giratina more
🤝
still turtle better in Comp
Can’t argue with that
Fairy
Fairy Aura
126/131/95/131/98/99
680
Wtf
Never used Geomancy on me
So i don't think so
Yeah it hasn’t used it so far, but I can’t kill it either way lol
People that say Terapagos is mid are inexperienced and dumb
Terapagos > Their opinion
tell that to Zheng
Hey Andrew, you are mid not the turtle
💀
No way he calls it mid, it got him to 2nd place and he lost because he didn't protect amoonguss in game 3
That was a crucial turn to protect
and also did not make it to day 2 with Lunala
Is doing Dnite Espeed survive relevant still?
Further proves my point
If he calls Terapagos mid then Lunala is trash which makes 0 sense
https://pokepast.es/983dfddd00323158 Speaking of Lunala how is this tailroom Lunala team?
Do you know if your ursaluna outspeed Incineroar outside trick room?
Uh, yes ofc
244 speed is more than enough
Ok, no need to be so fiesty, it was more because you would rather not get parting shot
might as well just use Caly S and Dawn Wings as my secondary
Who won la regionals? I didn’t have time to watch day 2
Cool
I rather Shadow win than Ice
Same
Ice is too dominant to deserve to win
Opinions btw?
I don’t really care who wins, it comes down to the player using the team
POV:Shadow Rider vs Ice Rider Be liike
It looked fine
i have never seen that calc come up this regulation
i dont think ever hahaha
Dnite has fallen off hard
Give it a fairy type regional with pixilate 
Is skeledirge a good trick room with calyrex ice
Idk, wait for someone with knowledge to tell you
Yesterday
ohh ok thx
also does this look better? https://pokepast.es/7937f520e22bbf60

flameduckys has given 1 Gen Rep to mlbd

Just curious what’s the calc on Urshifu?
i got most of the mons from here #rental_teams message
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oh wow
Oh ok then
Aight I'm just making sure lol
Anyone wanna join a multi battle? Just need one person
Code: 6969
(I didn’t make the code)
Also I have seen a few tbh
Though they're not as regular as before
Mine are worse 
I just always keep Dnite in mind cuz it keeps popping outta nowhere throught Gen 9 lol
You good
A simple no would have sufficed lol.
Lol my bad
Um try #1046572041421197352
Only place I can think of?
Ok thanks!
Actually just go to Gen chat and ask the same question, they'll know
They're on it with that shit lmao
I just realised, Regidrago has the same attack stat as spatck
How come no one runs balanced attack sets?
Intimidate
Power is equal to (user's current HP * 150 / user's maximum HP), rounded down, but not less than 1.
Dragon
Special
150
100
5 (8)
Copied by Mirror Move.
Does not make contact.
Lowers the user's Special Attack by 2 stages.
Dragon
Special
130
90
5 (8)
Copied by Mirror Move.
Does not make contact.
LMAO
i can’t believe i click into here always at the perfect time
I already had a CM Kyogre team and it's the exact stuff the East are running
Oh yeah intimidate exists don’t ir
Power is equal to the greater of (user's Happiness * 2/5), rounded down, or 1.
Normal
Physical
0
100
20 (32)
Copied by Mirror Move.
Makes contact.
Lmao
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what nature for Archaludon
modest
purple poopoo
tell me whats Wong with this team Archaludon Ceruledge Torterra Koraidon Primarina Chien-Pao
We need to know what format it's for to begin with
Single
purple poopoo

Oh I ain't know single
who does
im single 
jokes aside most of the people here played VGC which basically is doubles
i think shiro is a singles comp helper? 
poopoo
I mean if we're going off that, then I'm a fuckin expert
@bold geode poopoo
What would be best nature for them
Don't do that again
but poopoo
poopoo
Good for you buddy, idc
but poopoo
Sigh
you love it?
I'm trying to actually somewhat help give a shred of comp advice, so stopping would be appreciated
b̶u̶t̶ p̶o̶o̶p̶o̶o̶ ok
Anyways, back to the matter at hand
I was going along with the joke, idk about singles lol
But looking at your list, I can probably say Archaludon wants to be Modest 100%
VGC it goes with that nature and honestly idk why it'd change
Chien Pao can be either Adamant or Jolly really depending on preference
That's all I got
ok
What item and moves would you use on them?
Idk anything besides what I told you I'm afraid
poopoo
How do you farm him do I need to get eggs with eveo?
Wym
Getting Archaludon?
purple poopoo and pokeman = egg
+
=
You're tryna breed Chien Pao?
No
what u trinna breed
Honestly, if it's anything to do with breeding and eggs, #breeding_discussion is where you go
Duraludon
u can breed him
I’m pretty sure we recommended that a few hours ago
use 
Maybe
Ik I’m doing it with no sandwich
Oh we did, not knocking at you, just saying they know they have channels dedicated for what they want to do.
Same concept as with a sandwich
#breeding_discussion
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Might be referring to Gen 8
they are talking about Fake Pokemon formats
how do i send images
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I just watched, kind of sad i joined vgc so late lol
and i did not play SWSH during that time-
Me neither was always a casaul player til swsh then randomly stopped and SV brought me back and actually is the reason I did start VGC
fair enough
i just kinda wish i can play series 12 again
They all looked fun
you’ll get it in a few months
fair
though idk Double Restricted is gonna be PAIN
yeah Ho-Oh and Solgaleo would be lot better
but its gonna be in september but honestly the formats go so quickly
Reg B to Reg D in a single season and Reg E-Reg G in another
@wraith sable Stop spamming random irrelevant mp3s. #general_chat is right there.
ok
Are you looking forward to Zamazenta/Caly-S teams
I hateeeee zamazenta
Lol
Caly-I player reaction
Koraidon hates CIR
More accurately it just hates Peli but yk
Lol
As soon as zama is mentioned how the hel- lmao
Is there any hope for zacian in double restricted
everything would be slightly better i think
Id say Zacian would have an easier time in Double Restricted
ZacOgre was a whole thing
I know
My Zamazenta sense was tingling
Kyu W have any hope lol
Wow can’t wait for the Koraidon/Groudon combo
gotta get a job and get either Sword and Shield to get the Doggos
Hard Sun 
Also quit spilling my sauce
Wow can’t wait for the Miraidon + Caly-S teams
Caly I kyogre
lol
Ok maybe I just helped stir the pot
Honestly id keep using Pelipper and get a second Restricted
You handed me a wooden spoon that took you 30 minutes to find
Mirai Caly i
and it was the wrong spoon
I used lunala+ Dialga back in swsh
Lunala + CIR might go wild
I like to hear that
i just wanna try Terapagos + something else
Hey that bitch was in the toolbox for some reason
Terapagos + Rayquaza
its good,but i kinda wanna see Terapagos + Calyrex Shadow
Wow just
Fuck weather altogether huh
Yep
Bro said rain rain go away fr
the funny thing is that Terapagos and Rayquaza actually fought before in the Anime lol
Double Restricted gonna be brazy
crazy but yeah agree
Gen 4 legends prolly won't be viable
Dialga and Palkia can be a better place for TR
Giratina.... idk
Giratina is bad
Dialga+ caly i
Wait Tofu,Both HO or just Rayquaza?
damn i suddenly miss Zygarde-
I miss xerneas
ik he would be in Legends ZA but i need him so badly now
Can you say the best nature for them Archaludon Ceruledge Torterra Koraidon Primarina Chien-Pao
Modest,Jolly,Adamant,Jolly,Modest,Jolly
honestly true
should i change any of them?
+2 252 SpA Fairy Aura Xerneas Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Calyrex-Ice: 174-205 (84 - 99%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
well its singles so idk
+2 252+ SpA Fairy Aura Xerneas Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Calyrex-Ice: 190-225 (91.7 - 108.6%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO
Honestly i wanna make a Terapagos Zygarde team cuz of reasons-
true
I need to ladder some more on showdown then build my team in game
Imma just try to make a Terapagos Zygarde team for fun
Yeah just getting my team together or a new shiny one it's going to have Sceptile arcalodon Empoleon Kommo-o rhyperior and emboar
why does people forgot that Pokepaste exists
Wish me luck not terrible at all but definitely not a great team
Uh you need a restricted or else you're going to get obliterated
yeah
Also two steel types? Good luck with any ground type or fighting type
Koraidon and Groudon moment
https://pokepast.es/244da1bb1c518123
Just did some funni shit
granted not official just for funni
Too bad the aura trio aren't in sv, idk why they thought they would be too unbalanced but calyrex is fine
idk man,Plus i kinda wanna recreate the Unkillable Zygarde in SV lol
Also who knows if za will have abilities
true
we can try custom draft and see how zygarde feels like in SV
Turn 1 +2 omniboost
Wait that's dondozo
Yeah exactly dozo is fine and caly with tera is fine but somehow the aura trio would be too broken
Premium offensive typing
Omniboost is also crazy
Comparing Dondozo to Xerneas is crazy
What if dozo not only had better stats but free life orb boost and didn't need an almost useless pokemon in the team and an empty spot next to it
Dozo gets a boost from order up too though
Single target non STAB move that can be mitigated kinda easily by a switch in
Lets b real
Dozo is not anywhere near Xerneas
Not to mention taking up two team slots
That moonblast would be hitting way harder than a wave crash
And actually have a partner next to it to apply pressure unlike dozo where you double down on it
Or just follow me oger to let it set up and eat amoonguss spore
+1 252+ SpA Fairy Aura Tera Fairy Xerneas Dazzling Gleam vs. 252 HP / 100 SpD Incineroar: 196-232 (97 - 114.8%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO
Only +1
lmao that’s nuts
hey does anyone know how ditto interacts with tera? if they transform, is it just the ditto's tera type?
Ye
At least in raid battles it was that for me
It's the Ditto tera
Ditto’s Tera.
So I wonder what the best tera is for ditto
Ghost.
Maybe just stellar
So it's a stab boost for any transformation
Actually the real question is
If stellar ditto already used the tera boost to a move type then switches out and transforms again
Is the boost for that type refreshed?
No.
Yeah that makes sense
I figured as I was typing it but didn't wanna back down
Stellar does sound pretty practical for it if not going ghost
+1 252+ SpA Fairy Aura Tera Fairy Xerneas Helping Hand Moonblast vs. 244 HP / 44 SpD Amoonguss: 203-239 (92.2 - 108.6%) -- 50% chance to OHKO
Do we still want Xerneas back yet
Or
I never wanted it back
Only if it makes fezandipiti stronger
Real
(It won’t) 🥲
No I’m glad I joined when it wasn’t present lol
Fairy aura fezandipiti dazzling gleam
U kno its not a quad resist right just regular resist
Wasn’t that bad
Uh fuck no
In gen 8 zacian hard countered it so it wasn't that bad I think
I’m gonna quad resist you
Also hi hope your day has been good

Oh also
+1 252+ SpA Fairy Aura Tera Fairy Xerneas Helping Hand Moonblast vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Zacian-Crowned: 158-187 (94.6 - 111.9%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO
Just leave Zamazenta away from it and we're good
Ok maybe I can wait until gen 10
Geomancy is +2 tho isn't it?
That’s insane damage wtf
Maybe I'm crazy
While this Pokemon is active, the power of Fairy-type moves used by active Pokemon is multiplied by 1.33.
Isn’t that a resist
Yes
You want Tofu to do +2 calcs? 
Prob just Tera Fairy
Raises the user's Special Attack, Special Defense, and Speed by 2 stages. This attack charges on the first turn and executes on the second. If the user is holding a Power Herb, the move completes in one turn.
Fairy
Status
0
—
10 (16)
Bypasses Protect-like moves.
Has a charging turn.
Does not make contact.
I mean it’s +2 tho
"Only"
Don’t need to care about Pranksters, you always run redirection anyways
Was its counterpart good?
They better rework geomancy when xerneas is inevitably back in gen 10
Oh Yveltal
Dark/Flying
Dark Aura
126/131/95/131/98/99
680
Apparently it was good for gen 8 ubers
How i miss thee
Only counter to calyrex back then
Worlds fattest Sucker Punch
Sucker? Damn that is a tanky sucker
Dark aura sucker punch
Funny how it's sig move is special but it's better as a physical mon
The user recovers 3/4 the HP lost by the target, rounded half up. If Big Root is held by the user, the HP recovered is 1.3x normal, rounded half down.
Flying
Special
80
100
10 (16)
Copied by Mirror Move.
Does not make contact.
Cannot be selected under Heal Block.
Not boosted by the ability either
You can go Physcial or Special with it that’s cool
Same for xerneas
Just you probably don't want geomancy on a physical xerneas
-1 252+ Atk Choice Band Fairy Aura Xerneas Helping Hand Play Rough vs. 252 HP / 156+ Def Incineroar: 144-169 (71.2 - 83.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
I don't think you'd want to run this tho
Play rough Vs Moonblast? I’ll take special please lol
Yeah thats pretty cool
what did i miss
Xerneas was added to the game for 16 minutes exactly and is now gone
What
Are theses a good team in single Archaludon Ceruledge Torterra Koraidon Primarina Chien-Pao
if its doubles,this team is just. BAD
Who would you replace if it was?
Ceruledge,Torterra and Primarina
honestly i would throw Koraidon away if its a rain team
then throw Archaludon
Ceruledge into Incineroar,Torterra with Rillaboom,Primarina with Walking Wake
Primarina isn't bad
Well it isn't terrible
Archaludon?
Just not like optimal
Archaludon and Koraidon are just like MC and Kieran(Indigo Disk)
Not compatible
I was just choosing for the typing
Bad analogy fr
before Terapagos fight btw
Pokepaste pls
Oh you should choose for how they interact with each other, sounds like you should have a look at starter guides and whatnot
What you mean?
who let him watch slamgaming-
Check pinned messages
Send it in pokepaste format
Like this https://pokepast.es/dee166086424a8e8
did you just copied the Zacian team in 3rd lol
Dawg what is that umbreon doing there
It looks hard to play but i love the team
bro is about to be happi
Does High horse tera ground OHK0's Miraidon?
Idk
I only took the mons and the umbreon sets I already had 5/6 of those mons in my builder
252+ Atk Tera Ground Rillaboom High Horsepower vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Miraidon: 174-206 (99.4 - 117.7%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO
Yes
I was busy when it happened
It’s was really good
Umbreon’s got value rn
Should I change my rillaboom's tera to ground so I can deal with miraidon and chi yu
Inner focus and goggles makes you a Mon that can just stop tr
Umbreon Stonks rising
That sounds like a wild thing to say
Stops amoonguss
Latios won a regional
This format is very versatile
I think you can take and win with about anything within reason
Umbreon after gettin third:
Except for Mewtwo
That one's synchronize tho
ok there’s obviously things that are just bad lol
that guy has no saving-
What one is the starter one?
Mewtwo needs a buff
252+ Atk Tera Ground Rillaboom High Horsepower vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Miraidon: 174-206 (98.8 - 117%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO
i done that already lol
That's max adamant against almost uninvested tho
No more sandy shocks I'm gonna change rilla's tera to ground and give it hhp
Big damage at least
why would you invest on specs Miraidon on Bulk
Most Miraidon run just 252 252 so yeah
The bad thing is that Rilla has to be 252 adamant sooo
Yea it’s just, meh
there is a set with Max attack Rilla
What about that choice band rilla
but its too offensive
Not if you get that sword of ruin out
Idt that Tera ground rilla is great as I’m still going with Tera fire
What is this, gen 8?
its good against Caly Ice and Tera Fire Koraidon and Maybe some Will O wisps
Wasn't there a choice band rilla at one of the regionals
yeah there is
The Rillaboom from whatever tha fuck that Zama team is
I should watch some of the vods to stay in touch since I've been busy during stream times lately
Like I wish I saw that umbreon live
Terapagos Stonks can be rising after Caly S won a regional
(If not Zamazenta gets a buff but i personally think turtle can stonks in New Orleans)
That sounds insane
Depends on the region's meta
LA was very offensive
Compared to other regions who go more for balance teams
Turtle is more like Semi Offensive,cuz there are like 3 legit sets-
Hyper Offensive Specs,Set Up Balance Calm Mind and Power Herb Meteor Beam
@polar canyon
Most of them
What one was you meaning
-calc 168 x 1.5
Result: 252.000000
-calc 191 x 1.5
Result: 286.500000
damn
So is there like an actual worldwide rank system or is it national like how does that work like if I'm in like the top hundred would I be invited to a tournament
The World Tournament
No you need to get some points from ranking high in other official tournaments
It's like really hard
Only the top cut makes it to worlds
500 points right?
Where are the tournaments
Depends on the announced locations.
There’s regionals and depending on your location you could have locals
I'll google it from here thanks guys
certain big official tours also guarantees worlds no?
Might hit one up
i think some special event tours like utrecht one (?)
there's 3 tiers of tournaments:
- local tournaments (premier challenges and midseason showdowns)
- regional championships/special events
- international championships
you qualify for worlds through doing well enough in a mix of these events
NM I'm booting lightning rod
most players usually play a lot of their local tourneys and then attend a few larger tournaments to close out their invite
Just win bro
Just win a regional
git gut
lol
Excuse me sir
So since LA is over
Can you explain the Latios?
please
i want to use Latios but i don't understand the mon
I knew that one
From someone in YouTube comments mentioning it
Which actually made me almost face palm thru my head cuz of how obvious it was
i don't think CSR is a Fraud
people just overprepared CSR and CIR
ppl were def thinking csr was fake lmao
maybe not yall but def had ppl overreacting
would Dusclops be good as a TR setter or it dies too hard against Caly-Shadow?
clops prolly not the move especially now since csr just won but try it out see how it goes

I think it has potential
The thing is trying to find it a niche lol
I've thinked about adding it in some teams over Pokemon like Farigiraf or Indeedee but i don't see a good reason to do that
i think its good against Non Tera'd Koraidon and thats it-
Only problem with clops is it's vulnerable to taunt
it gets murdered by Incin as well
Knock Off too lol
Being a ghost type who runs eviolite just makes it the best target for a Knock Off
Incin is just almost everywhere,well not as much but still
Compared to some time before
ahem 2019
It's not in every team
Still number 1 but it's usage went just a little bit down
I think people are trying more HO things rn
also it feels so odd and empty that Aura Trio isn't in SV
cuz aside from being Competitively consistent for all 3 of them,i love their designs
true,but tbf incin is still pretty great to be a batman Utility Support type of pokemon
i thought that the kalos trio could save us from Calyrex and other top restricteds
But i'd be lying cuz the only restricted against those is Yveltal
Yveltal can take care of Caly S,Xerneas can one shot Caly Ice with Geomancy boost
Who is not very good in single restricted metas, and Xerneas would be more a problem than a healthy part of the meta
And Zygarde would be dead
and Zygarde is hard to remove if you don't have an Ice Type
true, Zygarde is not really a good counter on Miraidon but still
very hard to remove if you play it right
I actually made a Hypothesis Terapagos Zygarde Team for Doubles Restricted if Aura Trio is here
i feel like Comfey would be a great partner for Both Zygarde and Terapagos if Zygarde is in SV
i feel like not that much Comfey is here now
but Zygarde Terapagos Team feels interesting
it happens really,i am still testing Terapagos
Idk about my team but still working
Where in the home mobile app can I see usage stats?
idk honestly
uhhh
Google tutorial?
I want to have home on my phone but i'm too lazy to link accounts lol
I found it
cool
Incin number 1 ofc lol
zygarde and xerneas w/ tera would b broken, y would u want that
and yveltal would still b mid
good choice for them not to be in the games
Probably also cause they were gearing up for ZA already
Which also basically guarantees Gen 10 is gonna have em
Mainline, I mean.
Wonder which legends won't make the cut for gen 10
i dont really think it had an impact tbh i think they realized specifically how op xerneas would be and just decided to leave em all out. cuz pla didnt disclude palkia and dialga for pla they were in das
swsh didnt disclude*
i mean, can you blame me being a KALOS Fanboy here
yea itd just be lame xerneas had enough time in the spotlight
i actually planned to use Zygarde in the SV restricted but hes not here so oh well
All the Kalos legends will probably get op new forms
i mean Giratina does not have a new form soooo
Giratina has two forms already
i mean the game's Mascot Arceus doesn't-
sinnoh and unova legendaries are just, they aint it
at least kyurem white is ok
gen 8/9 legends are good
its basically just Hoenn,Kalos,Galar,Paldea and Lunala +Dawn Wings-
lunala and dawn wings are good, kyogre is good
if we count track record for Hoenn Legendaries,i guess they are good
Groudon is Mid but Rayquaza idk maybe not bad?
its a glorified dnite in the same way ho oh is a glorified entei
i guess dragon ascent is cool but yea im not a believer
Ah yes, Entei is a Glorfied Entei
haha
ray is fine
exactly
this is gonna be a quote for the comp chat-
fine is like not wat u want out of ur restricted tho
sso its basically
- Kyogre
- Kyurem White
- Lunala
- Dawn Wings Necrozma
- All Gen 8 Minus Eternatus
- All Gen 9
u want the broken restricteds haha
i'd say otherwise but thats just me, i run zacian
yea
if the goal is to win, yea use the broken ones
Zacian is still strong but competition for hard hitting Physical Attacker is just damn
true but i do think Zacian is still good
we got some frauds here
yea kyurem lol
what Dawn Wings?
kyurem white just, eh
cuz i know Kyurem just sucked
Even with Snow Buffs
honestly as i hate this fact,its kinda true
i played it for a week it just struggles
too much it has to contend w/ and those weathers are jus better
Dawn Wings is not bad but its just can't compete too well and LUNALA EXISTS
zacian like, thing with zacian imo is that zama is also easily placable in its spot so its somewhat up to preference
outside 1 guy getting high on bo1 ladder its done nothing to prove it deserves a place with those other mons
they want the same partners
yea generally
its just not all people piloting Dawn Wings right and its awkward to build it when you have Lunala
lunala is better
3 top 16s is solid placement for zacian
oh yeah, 140+ speed is very good for HO or Balance
1 top 8
yea i think it just allows zacian to have a spot in the format
i jus think that mon isnt great
i still think zama is better between the dogs
its definently high up top 8 for sure
ur doing urself a disservice running it over other restricteds
for dawn wings?
yea
tho at least Dawn Wings does not miss attacks like Groudon 
meteor beam?
but still agree on your end
if you don't run it
idk y u wouldnt but yea
groudon man
it has Calm Mind
groudon is just, fuck precipice blades
Precimiss Balds
press a miss blades
fr

lunala calm mind sets are interesting
like seriously the Sun does not even help Groudon too much
doesnt dawn wings have like a worse shadow shield tho
just reduces how much damage se hits do
other than ya know helping it tank water attacks more better
yea but dawn wings reduces it by not as much
but still,its just sad
makes it a Tera Hog
well yea but lunala just has a better ability
generally i feel like you want your restricted to use its tera
but even worse than Caly S cuz you can not go fast Hit hard
depends on which one
and wtf happened to Dawn Wing's Bulk-
Psychic/Ghost
Prism Armor
97/113/109/157/127/77
680
Necrozma
i think while ur restricted generally uses the tera a lot u dont wanna only think of it being the one that has to use it, sometimes the match calls for otherwise
no yea ik
Wtf is that,Wtf is that bulk-
just, typically its for the restricted to keep it in longer
its good bulk
compare to Lunala-
hence lunala being better
yeah exactly
137 spA is still good
157
Lunala has stratiegicly better bulk and more balanced on its stat
I have never seen
Psychic/Ghost
Shadow Shield
137/113/89/137/107/97
680
lmfao
dude my brain is not properly working IN 5AM
stratiegicly
It's not mine either
Hi Emma
was gna say lmao
hello tofu.
That is the name
how are you friend
Dying
damn

Ground/Normal
Guts, Bulletproof, Unnerve (Hidden)
130/140/105/45/80/50
550
Ursaluna-Bloodmoon
oo
why do i awake in almost 6 am
unnerve ursaluna 
the true tech
i didnt even know it had that
it has it but why would you use it-
lol
welp
feel like ur not kidding
its so joever
0 Atk Zamazenta-Crowned Heavy Slam (40 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Tera-Ghost Glastrier: 22-27 (10.6 - 13%) -- possible 8HKO
Ice
Chilling Neigh
100/145/130/65/110/30
580
tell that to Monke when he is here
Assurance, Avalanche, Body Press, Body Slam, Bulldoze, Close Combat, Crunch, Double Kick, Double-Edge, Facade, Giga Impact, Heavy Slam, High Horsepower, Icicle Crash, Icicle Spear, Lash Out, Megahorn, Outrage, Payback, Smart Strike, Stomp, Stomping Tantrum, Superpower, Tackle, Take Down, Thrash, Throat Chop, Trailblaze, Zen Headbutt
Blizzard, Hyper Beam, Ice Beam, Icy Wind, Mud Shot, Round, Snarl, Snore, Tera Blast, Uproar
Curse, Endure, Hail, Iron Defense, Mist, Protect, Rest, Roar, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Snowscape, Substitute, Swords Dance, Tail Whip, Taunt, Torment
A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Glastrier.
welp

unless you want to run Curse TR-
but damn the STAB movves on it only Icicle Crash is relevant-
Icicle Spear you have to run Loaded Dice
Assurance, Body Slam, Bulldoze, Crunch, Double Kick, Double-Edge, Facade, Foul Play, Giga Impact, Lash Out, Payback, Phantom Force, Poltergeist, Psycho Cut, Stomp, Stomping Tantrum, Tackle, Take Down, Thrash
Dark Pulse, Draining Kiss, Hex, Hyper Beam, Mud Shot, Night Shade, Psychic, Round, Shadow Ball, Snarl, Snore, Swift, Tera Blast, Uproar
Agility, Calm Mind, Confuse Ray, Curse, Disable, Endure, Haze, Nasty Plot, Pain Split, Protect, Rest, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Substitute, Tail Whip, Taunt, Will-O-Wisp
A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Spectrier.
thats why spectrier is moreso a better mon during reg D
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regg-2131948289-0ssufg7vo42mouos971ulpbe6jwgyripw
scarf was not something i was expecting lol
Watch a replay of a Pokémon battle between taku4986726 and huhuhyes! Format: [Gen 9] VGC 2024 Reg G; Date: May 28, 2024
me wen they discharged themselves: 

pretty sure last time i played a miraidon i won because they koed their teammates with discharge
lmao
not the smartest thing to do if you're not gonna tera farig
moment when they heavily rely on the Tera Electric
yea im not sure their thought process other then thinking id just give em csr there. not like they were super low rated or anything
but t1 its obvious they are scarfed
had to cover for discharge wen it came back in
sure discharge is strong but the partners can't handle the damage very well is a thing
and itss very risky play unless you are immune/Resist
unless it's ursaluna
ahh yes rilla on miraidon team to override terrain
in other teams
oh lol
not Miraidon-
i think Rillaboom tanks well tho
ursaluna bm is a common partner for miraidon as well as tera ground partners i thought u meant rilla on its team
i mean it can
252 SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Discharge vs. 252 HP / 60 SpD Assault Vest Rillaboom in Electric Terrain: 55-66 (26.5 - 31.8%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
Yep Very well
252 SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Electro Drift vs. 252 HP / 60 SpD Assault Vest Rillaboom in Electric Terrain: 93-110 (44.9 - 53.1%) -- 31.3% chance to 2HKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 60 SpD Assault Vest Rillaboom: 186-220 (89.8 - 106.2%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO
i mean you still die to Draco Meteor but still

252 SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Tera Electric Miraidon Discharge vs. 252 HP / 60 SpD Assault Vest Rillaboom in Electric Terrain: 74-88 (35.7 - 42.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Tera Electric Miraidon Electro Drift vs. 252 HP / 60 SpD Assault Vest Rillaboom in Electric Terrain: 124-147 (59.9 - 71%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Tera Electric Miraidon Volt Switch vs. 252 HP / 60 SpD Assault Vest Rillaboom in Electric Terrain: 87-103 (42 - 49.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
Yeah you still tank it
-calc 256/4
Result: 64.000000
-calc 267x116
Result: 30972.000000
mr tofu 
-calc 256x128
Result: 32768.000000
when are you free 
-calc 32768/30972
Result: 1.057988
i am done with my exams and i passed every shit 
so im free 
time to cook some palkia teams
sep, besok ato lusa palingan
ill dm you when for the details and like deals 
and what is that
A crude measurement of defensive capability
is it just HP times def/spdef?
Yea
Let's take Shuckle, for example. You want it to sponge physical hits, so you give it a Bold nature with 252 Def EVs. Thus, its physical walling ability is:
181*614 = 111,134
Now let's compare that to a Shuckle with a Bold nature and 252 HP EVs.
244*551 = 134,444
134,444 is about a 20% increase from 111,134, which shows a lot about correctly distributing your EVs. Why is this the case? It's elementary math. When you multiply a factor by a percentage, the product will change by that percentage. If you have 100 HP, 100 Def, and SpD, and you double your HP, your Defensive and Specially Defensive walling capabilities will double as well.
This is a good rule of thumb when investing EVs into defensive stats: Maximize the lower stat first. If you can only spare 192 EVs for Skarmory's defense, put all of them in HP. When creating defensive EV spreads, the idea is to make your defensive stats as close together as possible.```
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To be more accurate tis an 18.9% increase
God I love Pokemon
So is ranked just legend spammers
That is the ruleset, yes
if u mean reg G, then yes
I don't see why you wouldn't use the good Pokemon when playing to win
i dont see any reason not to bring good mons
called ranked and competitive for a reason
Damn I just started I've lost to so far to legend teams only won 7 so far tho
I'm frustrated that the optimal HP stat is an ugly number
Out of how many?
If the W/L is skewed then I'd suggest taking another look at your team
Ya I will didn't know their was a rule to use legends only if you want a chance
Are you new?
sometime i feel like im new
more of a reason to learn
but in this restricted format, you kinda need a restricted
It's not that it's required to run legends, it's that there's no reason to not run what's good. See also: handicap yourself.
lol, enjoying the calcs i see
256 is perfectly divisible by 16 and is a great number
257 is the ugly bastard child spawn of satan
And I didn't think like there was Legends allowed I like the world championships
We like divisible by 16
I already handicap myself enough by being illiterate
lmfao
lefties?
16+1 so I only cut 49% of HP if I have to click Curse
but 257 is a nice number tho
ah i see
its a prime number
FUCK I HAD A REPLAY I MEANT TO SAVE AND PUT, BUT I FORGOT TO
If you say its cuz 2+5=7
257 isnt divisble by anything its gross
and 2+5 = 7 
Yeah but 7 is an ugly number
HAHAHAHAHAHA
8 is beautiful, 6 is acceptable
I'm currently fighting to proc terapagos his abilities too strong I just can't hit him super effectively is that what it is cuz all my moves just don't hit him super effectively that's not fair I just can't hit him and they've already set up enough to sweep me and that they're still setting up but these Legends Banners are goofy
and 2, 5, and 7 are also prime
prime numbers are just, nah
oop wrong reply
Now it's in the depths of all the image links I copied for Cards Against Humanity
But also
thats its ability
Then why would it be allowed in ranked Goofy they should have a anything allowed mode but that shouldn't be ranked
Competitive Pokemon is just a big hurdle and big change of pace relative to the normal game
at full hp it acts as if the move is not very effective
Cards was fun, I missed playing Cards Against Humanity
You know it took me a minute to realise
That
id suggest you try to learn whats the ruleset first then?
Worlds follows the ruleset iirc. so depends on when.
and then which legendary are you talking, restricteds or just normal. because they are different for the ruleset
Tera Shell I think reduces the damage output from Collision Course far more becuase you also won't get the boost from it
So is there even a mode I can play where there won't just be Legends Famers cuz I don't want to have to use Legends
Play OU
oh really? it doesnt add the boost?
Cause it's not SE
You lose the 1.3333x
oh you're right
recently they allowed a single restricted legendary in the vgc format. this is a general way that they do for vgc every game. they allow certain Pokemon then they allow select number restricted legendary pokemon
its just the 100 bp
so CC techinically does more initially
u dont wanna use legends yet u wanna compete at worlds? 
So the only way you can compete in rank is if you have full parties of Legends isn't that kind of ridiculous rank should be more than about Legends
after a certain time after the game has been released of course
or flare blitz in sun technically yea
Legends are overpowered they ruin the game Legends ruin it cuz then you can only use Legends
Cuts usable Pokemon a ton
That's called casual - anything goes, but that also means you can play legends. Starting out on the foot of "oh these legend spammers they're all bad" is going to make everything a big disappointment for you
If you want rulesets, play smogon
legends are used cuz theyre good
Shouldn't you learn the game you're trying to play instead of telling other people to not play it the way TPCI has decided it to play?
this is more like a skill issue honestly
you are only allowed a single (1) restricted legendary on a team.
monke, wtf
How was the chair still
every now and then monke always finds a way to impress me
I had half a mind to hit you with a warning
idfk know
That wasn't even that bad
ehh, still reportable lol
Still?!
@molten oasis Yeah I was right lol, CC does about 8% more initially
Well fuck
interesting
good luck
I haven't told anyone to not play it all I said is that there's full Legend spammers and it'd be really nice if there is a mode where you could actually use stuff other than Legends and still be ranked I mean Legends are badass but I don't think they should be in ranked maybe certain ones maybe one per team I think one per team be very fair
Smogon
You don't want VGC - you want Smogon

You want rulesets that determine what you can and can't use
smogon is somehow rotting their brains- but eh let them do their thing
1 restricted legendary per team is literally what they have rn
Complaining about how things are going is basically telling others not to do it that way though.
I played plenty of Showdown and I was really excited to have fun in my Scarlet game that I paid $60 for
honestly
Your fun is just wanting other people to play your way and that's not gonna happen
Incorrect I'm trying to vent to other people who also play Pokemon what are you talking about man I didn't say you guys should all quit playing I said it's ridiculous how these Legends spammers are
That is such a toxic mindset
you should take a peak at how vgc is
and in VGC,its like not possible
I just was expecting better man I've already faced two people With full team's Legends and one with three That is crazy
But venting to a bunch of competitive players in the competitive channel probably isn't your best option.
I've only had nine matches
In VGC you have even more options for Teambuilding
Gotta have a monthly subscription to get grammar
ok tell me,what legendaries do they use
Expecting better? You can use the same things - you're expecting people to play how you want.
I'ma do me it's clear you like telling people what to do though
and are you playing Casuals matches or Ranked Matches
💀
or Showdown on what format
Ok welp
People aren't playing how you want - people are playing the actual VGC ruleset which is what Ranked battles are set to in-game
top tier picture
Ope there's the image again lol
so true
I know, I used it earlier lol
if u wanna vent, public competitive space isnt a good place tho?
its like ur playing soccer and ur complaining to other soccer player "offside is ridiculuous"
its not a soccer player to decide the rules
It's futbol actually
fuck ok
@lofty tartan I was expecting more of Pokemon Scarlet like seriously they're ranked is you can have a full team of Legends why is that the ring mode it shouldn't be there should be an anything goes but that shouldn't be ranked
Agreed on it
sepak bola
But calling everyone legend spammers in the context you're using it in is pretty unnecessary to have as a starting point here
look at the ruleset.
halah
Me reading this instead of going to sleep
Heck my team has 4 Sub Legends and 1 Restircted,Fuck i do?
SV VGC since Reg C and D have Legendaries Returning,As Long as you can optimise it well i don't think they are Legendary Spammers
git gut
It's kinda pretty entertaining to see what new random weirdo pops up in comp chat
it is
They're fuckin sending em here at this point bro lmao
lol
Pretty much
It's just this mentality that's been popularized that anyone playing any legends is a legend spammer and they should get good at the game and use niche, interesting stuff instead.
Anyways, which team should I invest into more? Test Test 1 is where I accidentally copied most of Indianapolis team without realizing it lol
why is there a munchlax on the first team?
I forget, did you like Cards Against Humanity or?
I am all for making competitive more accessible but the entitlement of some newbies are just through the roof
Boring ass game
depends on playstyle,but i like the Tailroom Turtle team
@solid frigate and I know you said it's a skill issue but all my Pokemon are hyper trained and white mocheed and then evd and I gave them great movesets and three their abilities are wrong but I got three of them as the abilities I want because I need more ability patches but yeah I don't think it's quite a skill issue as much as just the stat issue
uno more fun imo
I mean I am using two pseudo legendaries even like that's almost not even fair




