#competitive_discussion

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timber falcon
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relevant to the chat

harsh depot
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True

mighty stump
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Just also saying, 99% of civet coffee is fake

timber falcon
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oh?

willow vault
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Interesting

mighty stump
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  • No legislation
  • Difficult to purchase since it's difficult to attain from natural, wild civets
timber falcon
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would these be real?

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they look expensive

mighty stump
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And obviously the farmed/industrialised shit wouldnt be

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I don't think you can ever trust any mass produced/commercially sold Kopi Luwak

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timber falcon
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as expected hes collecting dung

charred saddle
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ee luwak

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EE

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EEK. TAIK

mighty stump
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bgst lo

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kopi luwak asli enak

charred saddle
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PIKACLONES SUPREMACY

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emang

mighty stump
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Still not that different from normal coffee. Its good

charred saddle
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tp abis gw minum, dksih tau dri ee luwak, lgsung ga enak

mighty stump
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Not good enough to engage in animal cruelty

timber falcon
mighty stump
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Bahasa Indonesia

timber falcon
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ok ty

mighty stump
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Mamoswine apparently appeared in the regional

timber falcon
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see thats what i mean

bold geode
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Mamoswine top cut in Bogota iirc

timber falcon
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i see so many interesting sets in regionals

charred saddle
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ice shard?

torn parrot
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istg zamazenta has been such a good dog lately

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timber falcon
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(unfair MU)

autumn vault
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I love this collection, especially the middle

timber falcon
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reg g pregression looking good

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timber falcon
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yep i yoinked it to test OU

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special attcaking treads is crazy

autumn vault
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did you like it?

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I don't like OU

mighty stump
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Oh not a regional

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but an MSS

timber falcon
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i like singles but idk how to synergise teams

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i think its easier to build a vgc team than singles ngl

willow vault
autumn vault
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What is the best Zekrom team of the 5? My bet will go to the 2nd one

mighty stump
timber falcon
autumn vault
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I have a ridiculous amount of reg G teams

timber falcon
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i think the zekrom team right there is the best

autumn vault
mighty stump
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CIR mirror on stream

timber falcon
autumn vault
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Just tell me which one

willow vault
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The other one

timber falcon
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yes the other one

strange fjord
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doing vgc battles in vc if anyone wants to see WobbuParty

autumn vault
timber falcon
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ok ok this time

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60

timber falcon
autumn vault
timber falcon
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or u guys have some hidden conflicts

autumn vault
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  1. I don't want to reveal my voice
  2. I don't want to hear other people's voices
  3. Why not just type it to the chat instead of talking?
mighty stump
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Someone check a calc for me

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Acrually

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Nevermind

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I don’t trust any of you

timber falcon
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lmao

mighty stump
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No way

timber falcon
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shows an abysmal calc:

mighty stump
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+1 252+ Atk Calyrex-Ice Rider High Horsepower vs. 236 HP / 220+ Def Incineroar: 170-200 (85 - 100%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO

autumn vault
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Damn

mighty stump
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Unless it was a bad low roll

autumn vault
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Ofc you vote Zamazenta

bold geode
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Was I supposed to vote for something else?

autumn vault
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Nope

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You vote what you want

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You chose Zama, nothing wrong with it

autumn vault
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Finally

south shuttle
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what happened here

autumn vault
autumn vault
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I finally did it! It only took 3 days!

south shuttle
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😱

south shuttle
autumn vault
gentle cragBOT
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1uk919 (ID 817056763429257236)

[Message](#sv_discussion message) in #sv_discussion
Ok and? prankter mons will still just set up a tail wind or something before that

autumn vault
south shuttle
autumn vault
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I know

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Groudon

bold geode
# gentle crag

Didn't we say not to engage?
I mean sure they changed but like

sharp cobalt
bold geode
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Lol

bold geode
# sharp cobalt <:raichuShrug:766946059527782410>

Also to fill you in, we tried to give them advice fuck idk how many times but they basically just refused it all when it meant no E Force Calyrex Shadow Rider, which we also told them multiple times is God awful

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bold geode
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After days on end of not
Imma let y'all go with that

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sharp cobalt
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What works best with TR Indeedee-F currentlly?

rustic mountain
bold geode
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

rustic mountain
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2 accounts in top 500

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u just need to have tera blast as ur single coverage

bold geode
rustic mountain
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otherwise u just get walled out in some spots

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yea ofc

sharp cobalt
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rustic mountain
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its just finishing off the wide guard users before csr hits the field. u generally wanna b clicking astral barrage most times anyway so having something deter that is no bueno

sharp cobalt
rustic mountain
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i also click e force sometimes outside terrain it still does great damage lol

dapper crag
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Where do u sign up for vgc

next stump
sharp cobalt
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I confused the yellow and orange for a sec

dapper crag
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Idk what even is vgc can some explain it

next stump
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VGC = Video Game Championships, the official competitive format for pokemon. Its double battles, so pick 4 out of 6 of your pokemon and they face off 2v2

bold geode
sharp cobalt
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I can still get myself uhm, a 0 spe BM Ursaluna

bold geode
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@next stump any I didn't mention? Besides Calyrex Ice Rider, which is shiny locked

next stump
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that’s a good list

sharp cobalt
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Was planning on doing that as soon as I got a new moon ball

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So pref would be Lunala or Necrozma DW as the restricted, and either Ursaluna probs..

bold geode
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Yeah
Regular Ursaluna kinda looks nice honestly

sharp cobalt
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Shame BM Ursaluna is locked for now

bold geode
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Yeah

autumn vault
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Best Monke poll ever

sharp cobalt
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Lemme desiggn smth

bold geode
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Ah
So 5 Yes's cuz the third option was also yes

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south shuttle
sharp cobalt
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Whats... Indeedee-F's tera?

bold geode
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Cuz Urshifu Dark threatens it like a mfer

sharp cobalt
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Ah had an inkling

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And Lunala, i cant find any sets on pikalytics (to get a simple idea), I believe is full SpA, Power Herb Meteor Beam?

bold geode
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Is Tofu's post hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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Lunala @ Power Herb
Ability: Shadow Shield
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 116 HP / 188 Def / 180 SpA / 20 SpD / 4 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Moongeist Beam
  • Meteor Beam
  • Trick Room
  • Wide Guard
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Lemme grab calcs

harsh depot
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Made it to Rank 8 Great Ball, hoping to get to Ultra Ball.

bold geode
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252+ SpA Beads of Ruin Chi-Yu Dark Pulse vs. 116 HP / 20 SpD Shadow Shield Lunala: 192-228 (84.5 - 100.4%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO
236+ Atk Urshifu-Single Strike Wicked Blow vs. 116 HP / 192 Def Shadow Shield Lunala on a critical hit: 192-228 (84.5 - 100.4%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO
SpA bump
+1 180+ SpA Lunala Meteor Beam vs. 236 HP / 156+ SpD Incineroar: 188-222 (94 - 111%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO
Here's what spread does

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harsh depot
sharp cobalt
charred saddle
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helps u to set it up with indeedee follow me

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follow me to TR

bold geode
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Trick Room is usually used on it, however if you're looking to go Hard TR, then you want at least 2 setters

sharp cobalt
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True...

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What's the 4 Spe EVs for?

bold geode
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Actually I mentioned Psyspam (Expanding Force)
But honestly, I don't recommend it as much rn due to like
The fuckton of Dark types/teras

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Ummm

sharp cobalt
bold geode
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Lemme see

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@next stump sorry for ping, what does 118 speed do again?

autumn vault
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@south shuttle i finished explaining the resistant noob on why incineroar is super good (sorry for ping)

sharp cobalt
bold geode
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Hard Trick Room can use min speed, but also like
Sometimes it's not as needed

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I feel like it MIGHT be up to preference? Try out both if you can, see what you like better

sharp cobalt
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The speed IV for Lunala is set anyway, dunno what it has...

bold geode
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This is a moment where Showdown is based AF lol

sharp cobalt
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Whats good for BM Ursa? Just max hp max spa?

sharp cobalt
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Just slowly building there

bold geode
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118 is for something important, I just don't know what

bold geode
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Although keep in mind once again, you use one Ursa, can't use other

sharp cobalt
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Yeah... uhm... Ive got 3 now. Lunala, Indeedee-F, BM Ursa... I think I need a strong phys attacker to deal with Terapagos?

bold geode
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

sharp cobalt
bold geode
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I wonder what to

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Fuck idk TR mons that hurt Terapagos that much
A downside of maining Zamazenta for a while

sharp cobalt
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Maybe I skip Lunala and go for the ice rider Calyrex?

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sharp cobalt
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Im fine with that, if its to get a better performance in general

bold geode
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Nah cuz idk how CIR deals with hmm
Actually if you're wanting a strong physical attacker, I'd probably go regular Ursaluna unless you go Ice Rider

sharp cobalt
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Yeah both are fine with me

bold geode
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Once Tera Shell is broken or it teras, those Guts boosted Facades probably gonna HURT it

sharp cobalt
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So which one would be better? Im fine either way

bold geode
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Calyrex honestly lol

autumn vault
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calyrex ice is better however

bold geode
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But Lunala's definitely good, so it's really up to preference
Calyrex Ice Rider just of course has more results in events

sharp cobalt
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I'll make a team for both rowolet

polar canyon
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Just watch

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Then ice is gonna win something and be called the best again

autumn vault
polar canyon
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It's funny that calyrex is competing with itself for best pokemon

autumn vault
polar canyon
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Oh cool

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I'd say if you can use both, use both

sharp cobalt
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So now I have 2 halves, one Lunala, one CIR. What would the other 3 be? rowolet

polar canyon
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So you'll have 5 halves?

sharp cobalt
mighty stump
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Guess

bold geode
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It's not Jolly Incin is it?

autumn vault
sharp cobalt
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mighty stump
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118 is the Jolly Incin Spe

bold geode
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Ah

sharp cobalt
rustic mountain
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y

graceful flare
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Would u be able to outspeed with tailwind with torkoal

sharp cobalt
little plank
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Yeah I'm like the Don of dozos strat

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Pushed 1600 on showdown after changing

sharp cobalt
# bold geode Ah

Kind Monke, are you still able and willing to help with team setup? rowolet

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little plank
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Alright I've won like 12 in a row now I gotta take a break because I'm gonna go on a losing streak soon lol

sharp cobalt
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Mood

tawdry urchin
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Anyone know a pokemon I can replace incin with to counter miraidon? It pared with tail wind whimsacott pretty much wins the the game

sharp cobalt
tawdry urchin
sharp cobalt
south shuttle
sharp cobalt
south shuttle
foggy lodge
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Nothing counters Miraidon

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You have to take the damage or be a ground type lol

south shuttle
sharp cobalt
south shuttle
sharp cobalt
south shuttle
south shuttle
foggy lodge
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Rillaboom is super good for it tho, just be careful to set the grassy terrain over the electric terrain, with AV it tanks a lot better everything from Miraidon

sharp cobalt
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Tera fairy Pachirisu follow me KEKdog

sharp cobalt
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Set up misty

foggy lodge
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You take the damage

tawdry urchin
foggy lodge
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For everything

solid frigate
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hoi

craggy dagger
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oh hai

solid frigate
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how is it goin

little plank
strange fjord
little plank
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Helping hand protect follow me moonblast

solid frigate
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hmmmmm

little plank
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Yeah I can't really think of a win con lol

sharp cobalt
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Your winning personality happyspheal

strange fjord
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i was thinking you should've healed terapagos with t1 there but seems like you didn't have any healing moves

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ill have to look back at the replay to see what could've been better

little plank
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Even if I did heal t1 though urshifu still would have got the 1hko with the close combat

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I guess I could have swapped to rillaboom but wasn't expecting the urshifu to not have scarf

strange fjord
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maybe. depends if you could get back to full hp with double life dew or a single heal pulse

little plank
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Yeah guess I'll drop moonblast for heal pulse and try that out

craggy dagger
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hm-?

solid frigate
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?

chrome knot
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ended 5th @ stacked mss, happy with my play; was seeded third after swiss which was cool

lofty tartan
# little plank I guess I could have swapped to rillaboom but wasn't expecting the urshifu to no...

It was swap to Rillaboom, probably. Gets rid of terrain and eats the hit - you were being outsped by both Urshifu and Miraidon so there was no room to heal with Clefairy and either a CC or a Drift kos Terapagos - Follow Me doesn't protect Terapagos here because Clefairy can't eat the Miraidon hit.

Turn 1 Follow Me vs two mons that commonly run spread moves didn't help you either. Snarl didn't reduce your attack but it chipped Tera Shell and that was good enough.

solid frigate
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fuck it,finally

dry dew
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whats a good moveset for serperior? its contrary with leaf storm, giga drain, leech seed, and dragon pulse. anything else I shopuld swap out?

solid frigate
dry dew
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you dont have to I just got a shiny one and wanted to give it a competitive set for raids

solid frigate
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well the moves are fine

dry dew
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forgot about glare and life orb ive just had a miracle seed on it ty

solid frigate
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usually thats what BSS or VGC(Not that much) uses

dry dew
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what does a stellar tera blast turn into?

solid frigate
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and in Raids,Stellar Tera does not have 1 time use rule

dry dew
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cool ty

strange fjord
solid frigate
solid frigate
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well nvm its less

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like 150

south shuttle
solid frigate
south shuttle
solid frigate
solid frigate
craggy dagger
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yeah i saw a little too late wubbaboo_cry

solid frigate
south shuttle
solid frigate
craggy dagger
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man i’m always late to these set questions

solid frigate
little plank
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This was a great match lol

solid frigate
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ok i somehow miss my CM Terapagos Set-

little plank
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I probably could have done some stuff better there but ya

solid frigate
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also i think thats why i love Lunar Blessing

molten oasis
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I have cooled off

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just needed a break

craggy dagger
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welcome back drago

molten oasis
gentle cragBOT
rustic mountain
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free rep pepemostacho

molten oasis
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I uh, just need to learn the in an outs of the team

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Ik it can work ok, can’t throw away the top 500 because of some bad bo3’s

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that and I really need to figure out how to use the pelican

craggy dagger
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learn how to bird i guess-

chrome knot
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my mus SphealBounce

craggy dagger
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i feel like you know how to play everything else but don’t know how to fit the bird in

molten oasis
craggy dagger
solid frigate
molten oasis
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It’s to differentiate rapid and single strike

solid frigate
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i usually just go with the normal formes

craggy dagger
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oop-
drago got there before me Acheron_Cry

molten oasis
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Lol

chrome knot
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i so proud of my play today it was so stacked

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i beat the hotdog guy :>

molten oasis
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Pog

solid frigate
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i'm just playing TOTK for Relaxing before back to grinding

molten oasis
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Glad you’re doing well

craggy dagger
molten oasis
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Don’t disappear now mf

solid frigate
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lol

molten oasis
bold geode
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How you see me mfer

molten oasis
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I saw you typing

forest arrow
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lol me too

bold geode
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I didn't even, wtf

forest arrow
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lol it said you were

bold geode
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Discord buggin bruh

molten oasis
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Lol

solid frigate
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lmao

forest arrow
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forest arrow
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I see you monke

solid frigate
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remove dis.

molten oasis
bold geode
forest arrow
solid frigate
bold geode
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Also thx for that, I almost forgot I gotta check in

forest arrow
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I just checked in

craggy dagger
molten oasis
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Good luck guys

merry anvil
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does annhilape hurting itself in confusion increase rage fist's damage?

forest arrow
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Was about to ask if you did

merry anvil
forest arrow
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Thank you Drago ā¤ļø

dapper crag
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Move: Rage Fist

Power is equal to 50+(X*50), where X is the total number of times the user has been hit by a damaging attack during the battle, even if the user did not lose HP from the attack. X cannot be greater than 6 and does not reset upon switching out or fainting. Each hit of a multi-hit attack is counted, but confusion damage is not counted.

Type

Ghost

Category

Physical

Power

50

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Makes contact.

Punch

Boosted by Iron Fist.

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molten oasis
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No

merry anvil
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ahhh

craggy dagger
merry anvil
gentle cragBOT
molten oasis
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why did that give me rep tf

forest arrow
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lol why did that

merry anvil
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confusion damage makes me rage so it should make monke rage too

merry anvil
gentle cragBOT
molten oasis
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I’m gonna get banned for rep farming

chrome knot
craggy dagger
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gentle cragBOT
bold geode
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@mighty stump wow Drago rep farming in your channel
Shame

forest arrow
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craggy dagger
bold geode
craggy dagger
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that image is burned in my brain

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i can’t forget Acheron_Cry

bold geode
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Hehehehehe

craggy dagger
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craggy dagger
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craggy dagger
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ah

bold geode
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And taken it

craggy dagger
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am i insane for using lime green light mode

bold geode
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Wha

harsh depot
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Heya all

forest arrow
craggy dagger
harsh depot
craggy dagger
harsh depot
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I wanna get to Master Ball. Idk why, but I think I can do it

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Even though I’m just starting to learn

feral wraith
craggy dagger
feral wraith
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Hi everybody

harsh depot
craggy dagger
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yesss-
though if you start to get angry make sure to take breaks and reflect on how you could have played better-
rather than beating yourself up and playing again

harsh depot
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That’s true. I’m slowly learning that’s the better approach

craggy dagger
molten oasis
solid frigate
molten oasis
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Fr

solid frigate
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Lyco be Like when he saw Reshiram Teams

molten oasis
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lol

harsh depot
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Oh look, Reshiram and Entei lol

solid frigate
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Solgaleo after Dawn Wings Moongeist Beam'd

solid frigate
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252+ SpA Necrozma-Dawn-Wings Moongeist Beam vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Koraidon: 108-127 (61.3 - 72.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Dawn Wings go brrrr

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252+ SpA Beads of Ruin Necrozma-Dawn-Wings Moongeist Beam vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Koraidon: 144-169 (81.8 - 96%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

craggy dagger
solid frigate
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cats

craggy dagger
gentle cragBOT
solid frigate
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HUH?

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Wait Hows that a Rep???

solid frigate
cyan smelt
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It's got nya in the name of the emoji

solid frigate
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Oh-

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thats just weird-

craggy dagger
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yesh

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nya is a trigger word

solid frigate
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oh ok

ancient crow
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just got tera grassed

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on amongus vs ice raider

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F-hell

solid frigate
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F

craggy dagger
rustic mountain
rustic mountain
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the power of chi yu and 4x weakness to dark lol

solid frigate
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also he shouldve tera'd lol

rustic mountain
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shoulda woulda coulda

solid frigate
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yeah

rustic mountain
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they couldve wide guarded spored, protected and tried to tr w/ tera

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def had options

solid frigate
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mhm

rustic mountain
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i jus read them not wide guarding and it worked out haha

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cuz its such an obvious play

solid frigate
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so true lol

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alrighty

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Time to build the team

cyan smelt
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why did his rillaboom use eq in grassy terrain lmao

solid frigate
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Bro if its other moves i would not be laughing as much

rustic mountain
solid frigate
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alright,Third Rental Coming up!

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solid frigate
craggy dagger
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craggy dagger
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ooooo

solid frigate
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and it would be,Very Magolor style

harsh depot
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I can’t sleep. Idk if I should ladder climb though

solid frigate
solid frigate
harsh depot
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You’re probably right. Not this late at night

solid frigate
harsh depot
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Hey Torrent, did you see I made it to Rank 8? It’s the highest rank I’ve ever achieved trying competitive

solid frigate
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Nice!

harsh depot
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Yeah šŸ™‚

solid frigate
harsh depot
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Is that the team I beat minus different Tera Type on Dawn Wing?

solid frigate
harsh depot
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I see. Cool!

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I still don’t entirely know how I won, minus calling the Follow Me. Still oddly proud of myself though lol

solid frigate
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mhm

harsh depot
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Sorry, should probably stop bringing it up. I feel like a broken record

solid frigate
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nah its ok

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i did not prepare well

harsh depot
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Yeah, but what else did I do well, besides call the Follow Me? As far as you can remember that is

solid frigate
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i don't think so... i forgot...

harsh depot
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All good lol

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Just trying to know what I did well, that’s all

solid frigate
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you did well

harsh depot
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I guess I’m focusing too much on wanting to know specifics. Fair enough lol

forest arrow
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4-1 in wide league rn for my second tourney, im actually sweating lol

rustic mountain
cyan smelt
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Gl throwdat

forest arrow
forest arrow
gentle cragBOT
craggy dagger
rustic mountain
craggy dagger
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ok!
looking forwards to the new rental

harsh depot
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I’ve never been to a tournament. Don’t think I’m ready for one either

forest arrow
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It’s a lot of fun, I figured I waited to long

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Definitely makes me a nervous wreck tho lol

harsh depot
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I believe it lol

craggy dagger
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you should start with locals
being in a small community and branching out from there is usually the best idea-
though i never competed-
i regret-
going to view a regionals without actually getting to know anyone well…
it felt…
kinda empty

molten oasis
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...

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cough me going to NAIC with my one friend

harsh depot
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That’s fair. I wonder how I’d go about that tbh

forest arrow
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I don’t have locals so online is my only option to get my feet wet

harsh depot
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I don’t either, unless I drive a good distance

craggy dagger
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i just sat there by myself at regionals with no one to talk to cause the few people i know were competing

forest arrow
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yeah I’d have to drive like 5 hours and I just can’t do that

molten oasis
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same

solid frigate
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Me In UK:

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lemme keep doing Rentals

forest arrow
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if I ever go to a regional I have people I think, at least I hope

molten oasis
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i know people

craggy dagger
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ofc you do-
prolly will meet a lot of ppl from this server tbh

forest arrow
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drago

molten oasis
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not a ton, but i know people

forest arrow
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We know people lol

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wink wink

molten oasis
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lol

craggy dagger
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not many people i know came to-
vancouver regionals-
the person i knew being ruby/progatog

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and that was it iirc-

solid frigate
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Oh yeah for people who looked at my rentals would know i am using Gen 9 Sprites

forest arrow
#

Yeah that’s unfortunate, at least you got to see Ruby yeah?

harsh depot
#

Closest city I live near is San Antonio, TX. Idk where I’d find a local tournament at there

forest arrow
#

Same here

craggy dagger
#

mhm!
though she was busy competing at least she won the MSS there WobbuParty

forest arrow
#

sadge

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That’s awesome!

solid frigate
harsh depot
#

No idea either

solid frigate
#

i wanna use my Dawn Wings on a Local

harsh depot
#

I just wanna go to a local in general

#

How would I find a local tournament?

solid frigate
#

idk about that

forest arrow
#

I think Dillon would have that info for you I totally forgot how all that works

#

I think you sign up with the PokƩmon company

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And you can find locals through that

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it has like a tournament finder iirc

solid frigate
#

Progress : )

harsh depot
#

I see. You think Tofu would know too?

forest arrow
#

He should, though he cant compete I don’t wanna tell you wrong that he does know

craggy dagger
ancient crow
# bold geode

what being able to take hits for days, dealing insane damage while also having amazing speed does to a MF

forest arrow
#

More than likely knows tho

harsh depot
#

Makes sense

molten oasis
#

dawn wings sits at 77

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not amazing speed

ancient crow
#

they should give zamazenta recover on gen 10

molten oasis
#

hell no

solid frigate
molten oasis
#

eh yk what

ancient crow
solid frigate
#

i mean Dawn Wings as a whole

molten oasis
#

its decent

forest arrow
#

Okay R6 brb guys

molten oasis
#

good luck

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its not bad, i think it has a place in the format for sure

cyan smelt
#

Dawn wings walls zama

solid frigate
#

it almost OHKO a Dialga with Chi Yu Crit

ancient crow
molten oasis
#

i also think lunala is better

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because of its ability

ancient crow
#

this kyogre had covert cloak and tera grass

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completely ruined my night

solid frigate
#

Overlord used Moongeist Beam!
A critical hit!
(The opposing Dialga lost 96% of its health!)

This is just absurd-

harsh depot
#

What happened? I feel like I’m missing context

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In terms of Zamazenta salt?

bold geode
#

Zamazenta salt?

molten oasis
#

i lost to a groudon today, but not the groudon itself the incin and flutter

ancient crow
#

usually being defensive teras

bold geode
#

I'm just playing NBA 2k rn, why we talking shit about Zama

molten oasis
#

and i lost to a ho-oh

solid frigate
#

252+ SpA Necrozma-Dawn-Wings Moongeist Beam vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Calyrex-Ice: 174-206 (84 - 99.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Pfft

molten oasis
#

that sucked

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oh btw

ancient crow
#

: c

solid frigate
molten oasis
#

torrent are you just spitting out rentals just cuz?

bold geode
#

I need to do team report
Probably tomorrow night

solid frigate
harsh depot
#

Rather than be salty about defensive Tera types, maybe reflect on what happened and learn from it? I know I’m a little bit of a hypocrite, but I’m trying to learn

solid frigate
rustic mountain
cyan smelt
#

What about +1 meteor beam

solid frigate
ancient crow
solid frigate
ancient crow
#

so it feels like I got robbed

harsh depot
#

I personally can do without team sheets

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Teaches me strats in action

solid frigate
rustic mountain
#

cts is fine tho i think for bo3 and w/ tera ots is a godsend

molten oasis
#

wha?

harsh depot
#

Tree, are you okay?

rustic mountain
#

?

ancient crow
molten oasis
#

im just, im confused

harsh depot
#

I’m also confused

molten oasis
#

pls

rustic mountain
#

what is confusing

harsh depot
rustic mountain
#

feel like its pretty self explanatory

molten oasis
#

its not, please elaborate cuz i generally dont understand

rustic mountain
#

im fine w/ cts but for bo3 specifically w/ tera i get why ots is a thing

harsh depot
#

I don’t get it either tree, sorry

molten oasis
#

oh

harsh depot
#

Oooooooh

rustic mountain
#

idk how thats confusing

molten oasis
#

i thought you we're talking about some kind of mon

forest arrow
#

Tera starstorm is annoying asf

harsh depot
#

Wait, I get it now. Open and closed team sheets. I’m dumb lol

rustic mountain
#

haha yea

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just abbreviations

forest arrow
#

I got outplayed that’s the game.

harsh depot
#

I see. I’m tired, don’t mind me

harsh depot
forest arrow
#

Yeah 4-2

molten oasis
#

are you out or are you still in?

forest arrow
#

Still in

molten oasis
#

nice

forest arrow
#

X-2

harsh depot
#

That’s good at least

rustic mountain
#

is it bo1 swiss?

forest arrow
#

Yeah

rustic mountain
#

yea cuz im like 11 min for a set? wtf haha

forest arrow
#

Just got spammed Tera starstormed on a bad call. I read them reading wide guard

molten oasis
rustic mountain
#

happens unfortunately

forest arrow
#

but was wrong

molten oasis
#

it just takes forever

forest arrow
#

yeah unfortunate, im still in so imma keep trying ā¤ļø

rustic mountain
#

i mean its good to have a ladder. i think it depends wat stage ur at in teambuilding and wat ur going for

harsh depot
#

You can do it!

solid frigate
#

wait just asking the thing, Does Right Henchwoman of Dawn Wings Works for Indeedee?

forest arrow
#

If I win next match im top cut I think

rustic mountain
#

yea jus take a breather think wat u couldve done different to not have it come down to 1 call and the other game(s) then just move on

molten oasis
#

well im in the "im pursuing a team for NAIC" time since i got somethig to top 500 in bo1

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being pao pult zac, somehow

forest arrow
#

Most definitely!

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Absolutely rolled me tho lol

harsh depot
#

I don’t wanna sleep, but I’m feeling really tired. Good thing I didn’t do any ladder climbing

molten oasis
#

going for 1400-1500 in bo3 to see how it fares

solid frigate
harsh depot
rustic mountain
#

wats top 500 on bo3 rn

molten oasis
#

slowly, cuz i cant really play more than 4 or 5 bo3's without just, dying inside

#

1500

rustic mountain
forest arrow
#

Gl brother

molten oasis
#

right now, rapid shifu is kinda shit mu wise

rustic mountain
molten oasis
#

mostly in rain

molten oasis
#

not used to playing so many, just pushing it to gain endurance

rustic mountain
#

fair

forest arrow
#

Dropping Urshifu Rapid for Ghold was the best decision I could’ve made

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Well actually that terap mu kind of rolled me

molten oasis
#

also teaching myself to control my thoughts and recover from losses

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cuz that is a major weakness

rustic mountain
#

thats good

molten oasis
#

i think rn im set on pao pult zac amoonguss

harsh depot
#

Cheese string!

forest arrow
#

Pult is nice

forest arrow
#

Clear body avoids Incins annoying ass

molten oasis
#

feels solid, with incin and peli, although good im just finding it irritating to take games against rain shifu

#

surging strikes just kinda wipes everything, notably next to peli

forest arrow
#

Peli Pult, and hurricane that mug

harsh depot
#

I have to sleep. I don’t wanna, I wanna keep talking to you all, but slowly drifting to sleep. Night night all

molten oasis
#

tera water surging just removes pult

rustic mountain
#

later

solid frigate
#

also is it just me,or is it that when People pilot My Team they always have better results than when i pilot my own teams lol

forest arrow
#

Really? Damn that’s crazy

rustic mountain
#

idk is it?

solid frigate
#

eh maybe i am just tired during it

solid frigate
molten oasis
#

oh

forest arrow
#

No I was talking about ursh OKing pult

molten oasis
#

252+ Atk Tera-Water Urshifu-Rapid Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Dragapult in Rain on a critical hit: 138-165 (84.1 - 100.6%) -- approx. 6.3% chance to OHKO cough

forest arrow
#

I know specs Pagos is good

solid frigate
forest arrow
#

That’s wild

molten oasis
#

pult has

#

weirdly nice natural bulk

rustic mountain
#

for not getting ohkoed by a resist?

molten oasis
#

...

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i;d expect that to kill on a mon with base 88 hp and 78 def

#

so yes

forest arrow
#

Alright r7 if I win I’m top cut I think

rustic mountain
#

gl

molten oasis
#

gl

forest arrow
#

brb, ty ā¤ļø

craggy dagger
rustic mountain
#

was it u that hadnt played in like 6 months?

molten oasis
#

admittedly i can see pult going away after further testing

rustic mountain
solid frigate
#

back to do more work

molten oasis
#

i'll go play more vgc tomorrow, gonna go play apex or smth

craggy dagger
rustic mountain
#

i mean yea if u arent giving urself the chance its a bit hard haha

craggy dagger
#

hey i beat drago twice-

#

i don’t play much on cart…
i like experimenting and making teams compared to playing and pushing them up

rustic mountain
#

ahh gotcha

molten oasis
#

that sableye just ruins my life lol

craggy dagger
#

no but you played well too

solid frigate
#

252 SpA Choice Specs Beads of Ruin Chi-Yu Heat Wave vs. 240 HP / 0 SpD Groudon in Sun: 205-243 (100 - 118.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

This is just absurd-

craggy dagger
#

considering every other team you’ve brought against that lugia that i have-
you’ve beat me

solid frigate
#

252 SpA Choice Specs Beads of Ruin Chi-Yu Dark Pulse vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Calyrex-Ice: 228-270 (110.1 - 130.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

rustic mountain
#

not modest smh

solid frigate
rustic mountain
solid frigate
#

252 SpA Choice Specs Beads of Ruin Chi-Yu Overheat vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Koraidon in Sun: 170-201 (97.1 - 114.8%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO

#

i swear thats just Absurd

rustic mountain
#

where have u been

molten oasis
#

ive just been bringing it to every game to figure out when it is and isnt good

solid frigate
rustic mountain
#

chi yus been around doing absurd damage

molten oasis
#

we've known how dumb chi yu calcs are since reg c

solid frigate
rustic mountain
#

its a literal meme at this point in the vgc community

solid frigate
#

also i did took a break in Reg C to Shiny Hunt

molten oasis
#

what with overheat in the sun? that makes sense lmao

#

thing nukes like everything with overheat

solid frigate
#

but i forgot that meme

craggy dagger
rustic mountain
#

beads of ruin and specs and sun w a strong stab move, its a lot of multipliers

molten oasis
#

like miraidon

solid frigate
rustic mountain
#

yea

solid frigate
#

so basically i have a Mini Miraidon on my team

harsh depot
solid frigate
#

that can miss attacks

molten oasis
#

close discord

craggy dagger
harsh depot
rustic mountain
#

but also isnt a restricted slot

harsh depot
#

In all seriousness, irl friend needed to talk, and reached out via discord

molten oasis
#

ah, fair

solid frigate
rustic mountain
#

well bm ursa is legend adjacent and chi yu is a legend so not hard to picture why itd feel like that haha

forest arrow
#

Welp

solid frigate
rustic mountain
#

u did b4?

solid frigate
craggy dagger
#

oh wait no moongeist ignores vilifies

solid frigate
craggy dagger
#

what about behind screens

rustic mountain
#

im saying like

#

lugia isnt a common mu y would it be a point of emphasis

solid frigate
craggy dagger
#

ouch that still does a lot

craggy dagger
solid frigate
forest arrow
#

Came out 4-3, I think I’m out

craggy dagger
#

it’s just it’s hp stat kinda vanishes

molten oasis
#

bummer, good run it seems

solid frigate
forest arrow
#

I usually protect against spread moves users expecting the double into peli but they just read that all night dude

#

Should’ve just wide guarded the whole time:.

molten oasis
#

respect the mons not the player

molten oasis
solid frigate
molten oasis
#

ohk

solid frigate
#

also Magolor is Peak Kirby Character

forest arrow
#

I’m gonna be kicking myself in the ass for that

solid frigate
#

F

forest arrow
#

I’m sorry peli I failed you

molten oasis
#

its ok

#

i'd just be more open to clicking wide guard

#

infront of spread attackers

forest arrow
#

Yeah next time I’ll definitely respect the mon and not the player

#

Or actually respect both

#

Bc that feels wrong

solid frigate
#

usually i respect both

forest arrow
#

Yeah

#

Oh well next weekend I got thisā¤ļø

#

enough VGC for me today gn yall

solid frigate
#

gn

#

I'll rest after i done the rental

craggy dagger
molten oasis
#

gn

craggy dagger
#

i should

#

do something but idk what

solid frigate
#

2 more mons to type down on the Notes

rustic mountain
solid frigate
molten oasis
solid frigate
#

i should take a rest but i am almost done with it ;-;

timber falcon
#

What rental u making

solid frigate
#

3rd rental now

timber falcon
#

Oh yeah that’s a given

solid frigate
#

mhm

timber falcon
#

U got the material for dawn wings so fast korainothoughts

solid frigate
timber falcon
#

Oh wait yeah I can save the sets on the mons for the team

#

Idk why I wipe em clean lol

solid frigate
tawdry urchin
molten oasis
#

pao amoonguss is something i wasn't expecting to be good into miraidon

#

ice spinners into spore is a good tech

cyan smelt
#

neat

timber falcon
#

There’s a lot to consider when playing against it

molten oasis
#

well yea ofc

#

thats just waht im finding is consistent rn

#

Lv. 100 4 Atk Sword of Ruin Incineroar Helping Hand Knock Off vs. -6 Lv. 1 0 HP / 0- Def 0 IV Pichu: 27739-32635 (252172.7 - 296681.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO i got bored

cyan smelt
#

wonder how santiago is going

timber falcon
#

Lugia @ Leftovers
Ability: Multiscale
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 HP / 180 Def / 76 SpA
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Aeroblast
  • Earth Power
  • Recover
  • Calm Mind
#

found this set on munchstats, i think its very good

#

what do u guys think?

pearl wind
#

if you run recover you could also go clear amulet / covert cloak maybe?

#

but when i used lugia for a few games i liked recover > protect yesyesyesyes

timber falcon
#

true i think id actually like cloak, cause it also helps with snarl and icywind

#

also i did some calcs and its defence is calced to live 2 ice spinners from jolly pao, before and affter

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so from 100% it would take 3 hits

pearl wind
#

do you need that much tho? what about some speed to outspeed the 135s at -1? or some speed in general hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

#

because lugia is pretty fast with 110 already, doesnt need that much investment for the 135s at -1 (52EVs)

timber falcon
#

but for what reason would i really need to outspeed a 135 at -1

pearl wind
#

for what reason does your lugia sit at 130 speed and get outsped by most stuff? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

#

or do you rely on tailwind in that scenario then

timber falcon
#

cause it has the bulk to account for it

timber falcon
pearl wind
#

oki

timber falcon
#

but i think i will make it faster than pao at -1

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just cause it helps

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Lugia @ Covert Cloak
Ability: Multiscale
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 HP / 60 Def / 140 SpA / 4 SpD / 52 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Aeroblast
  • Earth Power
  • Recover
  • Calm Mind
#

showdown saved me 24 evs with bold nature

pearl wind
timber falcon
#

i think b4 i make more changes ill get the team then

#

i still have 4 mons to get

pearl wind
#

yeye because doing calcs for -1 without actually getting the opponent to -1 is NotHehe

plain trench
#

So I just got back into competitive and I just spent a couple hours building my team and it says one of my pokemon is not legal how do I figure out which pokemon it is?

mighty stump
#

Well if you show us your team we could probably tell you

plain trench
#

One second

#

It’s not letting me post pictures in here

mighty stump
#

DM it then

plain trench
#

Sent

timber falcon
#

Entei @ Safety Goggles
Ability: Inner Focus
Level: 50
Tera Type: Ground
EVs: 252 HP / 20 Atk / 52 Def / 156 SpD / 28 Spe
Adamant Nature

  • Sacred Fire
  • Snarl
  • Stomping Tantrum
  • Protect
#

thoughts?

mighty stump
#

the 0 damage Entei

timber falcon
#

calced to 2HKO 252hp caly ice

#

and 2.3% chance to get 2HKOd by caly-ice high horse power

#

2HKO incin with tera ground

mighty stump
#

šŸ¤”

timber falcon
#

outspeed jolly incin, and rest into spdef that i havent thought abt yet

#

am i overthinking things or is it fine, also goggles for moongus ofc, cant have redirection

mighty stump
#

Id just dump your leftovers into attack until you hit a 2nd bump then lol

timber falcon
#

aight

mighty stump
#

I don’t like the idea of Tera Ground

#
  • theres no Extreme Speed on this
charred saddle
#

no espeed is weird yeah

timber falcon
#

espeed i didnt find needed for its use

charred saddle
#

id rather drop snarl for e speed

#

why not? its prio and picking up KOs when it matters

timber falcon
#

cause i dont hit hard

charred saddle
timber falcon
#

nvm i have those spare evs

mighty stump
#

Mmm

charred saddle
#

does turbo incin with jolly and max speed is a thing?

#

ik turboincin is around, but max and jolly?

timber falcon
#

pretty sure drago was using it yesterday

#

outsped lunala with 118

#

so id assume so

#

252 SpA Life Orb Calyrex-Shadow Helping Hand Astral Barrage vs. 252 HP / 136 SpD Tera Ground Entei: 191-226 (86 - 101.8%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO

#

im wondering abt this calc

autumn vault
gentle cragBOT
timber falcon
#

oh wait with tera normal extreme speed i dont have to worry abt astral barrage do i?

autumn vault
timber falcon
#

but then again i lose snarl leverage

autumn vault
timber falcon
#

man idk which one to use

autumn vault
timber falcon
autumn vault
#

I have just built the team

timber falcon
#

even so

#

there was an incin and tera fire clay-ice

autumn vault
#

Ah yes, clay ice

timber falcon
#

why not the water type that breaks through protect

autumn vault
#

Idk

timber falcon
#

just in the moment ig

autumn vault
#

How was i supposed to know the tera?

#

It could have been grass

timber falcon
#

i meant after grim died

autumn vault
#

Ah ok

timber falcon
#

tera fire was already revealed so rapid couldve cleaned up

autumn vault
timber falcon
#

they were in it for the laughs lol

#

i wouldnt be surpirised if the only moves they knew were fissure and sheer cold

autumn vault
#

True

#

That is my Zekrom account btw

#

Where i exclusively use Zekrom

timber falcon
#

from experience is zekrom just a balance type mon

autumn vault
#

Honestly, its great as a dragon dancer

#

But i might eventually test out non-ddance zekrom

timber falcon
#

how would that work?

autumn vault
#

Idk

#

I haven't cracked down on it

#

Why is there so many calyrex ice in low elo?

autumn vault
#

This is OTS btw

autumn vault
timber falcon
#

opponent made so many questionable descisions

#

which mons would i use to answer urshifu water btw

#

e.g a rocky helmet mon

cyan smelt
#

1497 so close to 1500

autumn vault
cyan smelt
#

neat

autumn vault
#

Koraidon is cracked

pearl wind
#

run dat leaf storm amogu Hehe

autumn vault
scarlet otter
#

Might be the best team I've made

autumn vault
#

Nice

timber falcon
#

in the end i actually didnt go with resist or rocky helm

#

though ill probs add rocky helm comfey in the end

#

i added iron hands

autumn vault
autumn vault
cyan smelt
#

why am i losing all the time now

pearl wind
#

you tell me

autumn vault
#

To see what you are doing wrong

#

Which can help

sharp cobalt
willow vault
#

Taking a break to go over what went wrong and allow your mental to fortify could be smart

cyan smelt
#

i know miraidon is tough

#

so is caly-s

autumn vault
#

At the cost of poisoning my hands from the grass

mighty stump
#

If today's a bad day, just remember

#

Tomorrow could always be worse

cyan smelt
#

well i beat someone ranked 1519

willow vault
cyan smelt
#

i need to go outside more

willow vault
#

The outside world is great