competitive_discussion

[mighty stump]

It kinda is

I still prefer U-Turn overal

[autumn vault]

With scarf a priority move only helps to outspeed other pokemon and maybe the same species

[charred saddle]

i mean yeah, its a choice. i just dont think theres a lot of value in poison tera jab + scarf mon tbf.

theres that but yeah

[molten oasis]

Lando i lol

[charred saddle]

i dont think you can drop CC and sucker

but then like wicked too

[autumn vault]

who drops CC on urshifu? Nobody does

[molten oasis]

On a scarf set you can drop sucker

[mighty stump]

The only way I see it’s value is to just try and catch Flutter even then Tera Dark Wicked Blow 2HKOs anyways

[charred saddle]

and u turn is like pivot

[mighty stump]

I really disagree with dropping Priority on Scarfers

Tailwind is still very much a thing and the priority pressure is just good to have in general

[charred saddle]

and TR

sucker still goes through TR anyway

[molten oasis]

ig

[autumn vault]

Priority goes through Trick Room, not just sucker punch

[charred saddle]

thanks for clarifying and repeating mr ditto

[molten oasis]

I don’t personally click sucker or jet like ever so ig it’s a preference thing

[mighty stump]

I don’t disagree you’ll drop the priority move just be aware of your play after

[molten oasis]

On scarf mons

[autumn vault]

T-Clap and S-Punch are mind games in a nutshell

[next stump]

does Imprison affect what moves your ally pokemon can click? I've never used this move myself

[mighty stump]

No

Just opposing

Good luck in the GC, i forgot to register

[next stump]

So if I ran Imprison Flutter next to my Farigiraf, I can Imprison their Imprison but still set TR?

[mighty stump]

Lmao

[mighty stump]

Yea

[molten oasis]

I wasn’t doing gc anyway

[autumn vault]

I am doing GC

[molten oasis]

So good luck

[charred saddle]

gc still same reward?

[autumn vault]

It is my Sand team i will bring, me and my child excadrill must kick some ass that doubts sand

[mighty stump]

…Wipe some ass?

[autumn vault]

sorry, i meant to kick some ass, that is much better and less weird

[dull ibex]

the new eeveelution tioletpapereon

[mighty stump]

Wait

[modern whale]

Can someone help me get bp points code is 7JL7T4

[mighty stump]

Since you’re not using Taunt are you just trying to lock their coverage lmaooo

[mighty stump]

Wrong channel.

[crimson flume]

I didn't know registering your team for the GC means you can't use the mons anywhere else lol.

I'm also using my rank team for the GC XD

[mighty stump]

For the duration of the GC, yea

[autumn vault]

It also means you cant use the team on ladder for some reason

[dull ibex]

wolfe's mane to counter archuladon and rain makes it a lot simpler to when I want to bring it

[crimson flume]

Yeah found out late. Good thing I'm in masters already.

[mighty stump]

Some teams tried to pull that on my Archaludon and got deleted

[autumn vault]

Let me use the team Gamefreak dont lock it just for the GC

[mighty stump]

Lmaooo

[modern whale]

Can someone help me get bp points

[autumn vault]

Let me guess heavy slam arch

[next stump]

yes lol, i've seen way too much redirection + imprison

[mighty stump]

2nd warning dude it’s not the right channel

[crimson flume]

wrong channel my guy....

[dull ibex]

obviously wolfe is just genuinely one of the best ever and not an auto win but its a nice start

[modern whale]

Ok

[dull ibex]

I need to connect the dots on when I want pieces

[mighty stump]

Stellar Life Orb Steel Beam go brrrr

[dull ibex]

knowing one matchup that is decent is nice 🙂

[mighty stump]

Did you see my Pikachu team

[dull ibex]

I di

it is funny

[mighty stump]

Too good

[dull ibex]

screw it ill be in vc I want to play a bit of vgc

[autumn vault]

Pikachu light ball hits super hard, blud has an Attack/SpA of legendaries at the cost of shit bulk, FO also helps

[bold geode]

@dull ibex can you open up VC more?

[solid frigate]

mm

insert microwave noises

[candid plover]

Y'all lied and failed me they dropped my rank 😭

[solid frigate]

ok that feature is dumb

I genuinely don't know since i never got SWSH

[candid plover]

I wanna hurt someone everytime a pokemon prolongs a battle by using protect

[solid frigate]

oh boi

[candid plover]

I hate this stupid fire turtle

Torkoal

[solid frigate]

is someone using Trick room-

[candid plover]

BRO PLS

[solid frigate]

uhhh

[candid plover]

Ok nvm

[solid frigate]

?

[candid plover]

I was down to my last pokemon and if torkoal was faster than me I was cooked

[solid frigate]

did opponent set up trick room

[candid plover]

No

[solid frigate]

weird-

normally torkal is in trick room teams

[mighty stump]

Theyre doing Battle Tower

Lol

[candid plover]

Fighting Leon now 🙄 here he goes w that Charizard again

[solid frigate]

that proved i never bought SWSH

[solid frigate]

cringezard

[candid plover]

He's as predictable as ever

[solid frigate]

Fire Blast,Solar Beam,Anicent Power and Air Slash?

i think thats Leon's Zard Moves

[candid plover]

He switches his pokemon w Charizard then gmaxs it

[chrome knot]

its almost like

it not supposed to be that hard

[autumn vault]

Battle tower pokemon have speed that is too high for normal standards

[craggy plume]

any sun teams that i can use in both SV and SwSh?

[next stump]

the format that's played in SV and SWSH is wildly different

[solid frigate]

i hate myself-

[willow vault]

Why?

[solid frigate]

Terapagos almost Clutched up but Urshifu has other plans

[willow vault]

Oh

[solid frigate]

i need 2 fresh start mochi to change Terapagos EVs yo br motr bulky and

Ogerpon to be more offensive

I need to make Terapagos Physicallyt Bulky

cuz fuck Urshifu man

[compact harbor]

Does anyone know any current pokemon i could use to build a team?

[crimson flume]

This is why I love using Tera water crown lol.

My promotional game to masters from ultra this season involved fighting a torkoal.

I was expecting him to lead with liligant torkoal for the after you + eruption spam.

But for some reason he didn't lol.

Raging Bolt Snarl + Tera Water Tera Blast Crown and that torkoal was a sitting duck.

[timber falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/torkoal-pokemon-turtle-giggle-fire-type-gif-27171917

[crimson flume]

I only learned how to counter h-liligant + torkoal because I got massacred by one before.

After you is literally a free turn without trick room.

I had no idea h-liligant can do that lmao.

Also Rain Dance (Tornadus) decreases the potency of fire attacks.

It's a great counter to torkoal.

[crimson flume]

Urshifu: "Allow me to introduce myself."

What if someone spams you with hypnosis, putting all of your mons to sleep, thus taking away your ability to play the game because all of your mons went to daydreamland?

I still put up a fight, but it was too late. lol.

I hope someone uses that gimmick on me again. 😄

Hahahaha.

[autumn vault]

So true man, once i played against an espathra sandy shocks combo and my pokemon were useless, so fun to play against 😄

I raged happily at it

[crimson flume]

Im a copy ninja and an omnidroid 9000.

I love to copy people who've already been there and done that.

And if I lose matches, I try to find out what I could have done better and execute that the next time I face the same lineup.

[solid frigate]

lol

that is so true

[crimson flume]

Some of my wins are literally teams I lost to before.

And it feels good to win against the same team that crushed you mercilessly in the past.

[autumn vault]

Same, crushing A-Muk teams are so satisfying isn't it

A-Muk players are just people trash at the game and use luck to their side to win (Get clapped in masters noobs)

[crimson flume]

Literally treated myself to pizza during that time.... Hahaha.

Worth it. ❤️

[autumn vault]

Let me guess that was a very good time

[crimson flume]

New York's Finest. Only the best.

[solid frigate]

lol

[autumn vault]

Anyways the GC is approaching

I plan to bring my sand team

[crimson flume]

Good luck, I wonder if we will end up battling together lol.

[autumn vault]

I used enough weezing regigigas

I am the SAND REGIGIGAS Lord after all

[solid frigate]

i might stick with the team i built before,but this time i swap Meowscarda with Raging Bolt Maybe

even tho Meowscarda is valueable for Triple Axel

[polar canyon]

Flamigo dozo teams are the peak of vgc brainrot

If you know what you're doing they're easy to beat

But still so boring

[autumn vault]

Will anyone tell Reg A Wolfe? He used it in the beggining of reg A and he hated Murkrow after that

[polar canyon]

I stand by what I said

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/8a7216ff0acf4ba0

I am thinking of this team,but i might switch someone for ragnig bolt

[polar canyon]

Even if it's a skilled player using it

[autumn vault]

Brick break is interesting

[solid frigate]

Screens,but its for coverage

[autumn vault]

Ok

[polar canyon]

What got you to use drain punch over cc for urshifu?

[solid frigate]

i might need to change that

[polar canyon]

Genuine question

I'm assuming there's a reason

[solid frigate]

For Longetvity sometimes

[autumn vault]

He laughing though

[solid frigate]

but i forgot that close combat exists

[autumn vault]

How did you forget about one of the best fighting moves ever?

[solid frigate]

cuz i abused Drain punch for too much in Iron Hands-

[polar canyon]

If you're not using sash I'd use protean over instead of overgrow

Meows isn't living a lot of hits at 1/3 hp

[solid frigate]

unless if i am in trick room,i'm usually faster than most of them except scarff mons

[polar canyon]

You know what overgrow does right

[solid frigate]

ik,It boost grass attacks in 1/3

[polar canyon]

How often does it get to 1/3 alive

Overgrow works with sash

[solid frigate]

there is a reason i want to change to Bolt-

[solid frigate]

Pelipper:Am i a joke to you

[polar canyon]

If you're not using sash you'll rarely benefit from overgrow

[solid frigate]

i already used Sash on Pelipper

[polar canyon]

You could make it a bulkier set

If you're that worried about bolt ohkoing it just use tera grass or ground

[solid frigate]

aight i am changing Meow to Bolt

[polar canyon]

As much as I like it it's sadly not that good

Well it's good

Just not for vgc currently

And probably ever again

[solid frigate]

i would still use it cuz i have no other choice

[balmy glen]

how long do i have to lock in my GC team

[polar canyon]

Would rilla be a choice

[solid frigate]

after tournament

[balmy glen]

what

i meant like do i have to lock it in an hour or so

[solid frigate]

no the team in GC will be locked until after the tournament

[balmy glen]

i know that... im saying when are teams due

[solid frigate]

i literally did that mistake when i did not change Meow's Tera

[solid frigate]

lemme check

[balmy glen]

either have 30 minutes or an hour and 30 minutes

[solid frigate]

1 hour and 30

plenty of time to do some work

[bold geode]

@chrome knot I have horrible news

I have run out of Pokemon materials

And therefore can not gamble for balls anymore

Life's a bitch

[chrome knot]

lmao

[solid frigate]

Genocide more

[chrome knot]

me like 3 months ago

[bold geode]

Dopamine cannot be filled now

[chrome knot]

i have 49k bp no materials

[craggy dagger]

lucly for you, a new outbreak event means that you can slaughter babies for more materials

[bold geode]

I got like
7-8k rn

But all I got is a Scraggy material and fuckin Gimmighoul coins, which I shouldn't gamble away

[solid frigate]

If you run out of Pokemon Materials

Just Genocide more chansey

[bold geode]

No I think Duraludon and children are the most valuable

[solid frigate]

then Commit Genocide on both of them

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/anakin-starwars-darthvader-gif-5533636

[solid frigate]

Breaking News,Local VGC Player Genociding Skyscraper Towers and Children for Materials

[cloud gyro]

I’ve been thinking about making a team for a while but I don’t know what I want to build

[ebon hawk]

guys im new to comp,i want to do a comp team in sv any help/tips?

[polar canyon]

Yo

[polar canyon]

If you're new to comp, you're better off starting with premade rental teams

[ebon hawk]

how do i play them?

[polar canyon]

Once you've read/watched about the basics you need to understand how it works in practice

[ebon hawk]

cuz i have one but i dont how i can use them

[foggy lodge]

I hate this

[polar canyon]

Basically people can share a team online that you can use for free as if it was yours, only during online battles, via a code

[foggy lodge]

Why are the resoueces for competitive so expensive😭😭

[ebon hawk]

it doesnt let me use it in online battles

[polar canyon]

What's in the team?

It might have something banned like most legendaries

[mighty stump]

Duplicate items, Mythicals, certain Legendaries

[polar canyon]

Hi tofu

[mighty stump]

Restricted moves

[foggy lodge]

Hey something funny that i saw is that in reg F's rules Pecharunt appears as legal but it's clearly not usable lol

[ebon hawk]

krookodile mewscarada seblaye flamigo hatterene indeede

[polar canyon]

Must be the items

But

[mighty stump]

Wtf is a seblaye

Oh

Sableye

Oml

[foggy lodge]

Not related but why would you use that team

[polar canyon]

Sounds like you might wanna try one of the many documents and videos that introduce you to competitive

Because sadly using your favorites / what you beat the game with doesn't get you far

[foggy lodge]

I beated the game with Incineroar

[ebon hawk]

nah thats not mine team i copied that by a guy on yt

i sens u vid rq

[polar canyon]

Oh is it anger point costar

[mighty stump]

I think you’re watching a very outdated YT video

[foggy lodge]

It's not updated that team

Is a series A team

[polar canyon]

And a meme one

[ebon hawk]

where can i send u vid?

[polar canyon]

You don't have to

[foggy lodge]

I mean it was good but because BO1 closed teamsheet in ladder

[polar canyon]

I think we can tell what the team is about

[ebon hawk]

rlly?

[polar canyon]

Meowscarada flower trick on defensive tera anger point krookodile

[foggy lodge]

The team even fell because it became popular and people just, knew how to beat it

[polar canyon]

Costar flamigo copies the boost

[ebon hawk]

yes😭

well ok i need to search a team

where can i?

[foggy lodge]

Search a balanced team

#rental_teams

[polar canyon]

Make sure it's for regulation F

The current ruleset

[foggy lodge]

Probably Paonite

Paonite is good for novice players

[polar canyon]

Pao entei now

[foggy lodge]

It's more a Paonite Entei team but yeah

I have one if you want me to share the code

[polar canyon]

Unrelated but here's a team I'm enjoying using

https://pokepast.es/36e6c6b684e07604

Works well enough in 1500-1550 showdown

[mighty stump]

Jumpluff has wasted EVs and you don’t need Heavy Slam if you’re going +2

[polar canyon]

Just the item on wake that I could change

I meant to put 4 on spatk jumpluff

That's my bad

[ebon hawk]

js a thing how do i understand how to play the team?

[foggy lodge]

Playing the team

Or searching youtube videos about how to play it

Even with that there is not a way of saying how to exactly play the team

[polar canyon]

In short you take advantage of chien pao lowering the defense of opponents to hit them with both of your pokemon

But if you don't know, you probably need guides

[foggy lodge]

It's not like anyone can tell like yeah do this and then do this and you win

[mighty stump]

Well

There are

You just have to pay them

Lmaooo

[foggy lodge]

I think it's better knowing like, the role of each Pokémon in the team

[polar canyon]

I think tofus blog explains everything pretty nicely

Are they even still here

[livid vine]

Just ran into a Blaze Incineroar with no Fire moves on ladder. Tera Grass Safety Goggles too. Can someone help me from dying of laughter?

[timber falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-gif-26826812

i hope it was all a mistke

in fact wth kind of moveset was it running with no flare blitz?

[solid frigate]

ok Tera Grass Safety Goggles make sense,but BLAZE INCIN WITH NO FIRE MOVES??

[crimson flume]

I usually just assume they have something up their sleeve and just go super aggressive lmao.

I brought a Dark Lauriat Incineroar once with EV spreads meant for tera raids only.

I ended up winning.

And yes, bringing that Incineroar was an accident.

Not sure how I won that match in masters with a tera raid EV spread but, ok. lol.

[acoustic cloak]

Element of surprise.

People assume you'll do something, and plan based on that.

[crimson flume]

And that incin was switched in last.

[acoustic cloak]

So when things don't pan out as expected, they tend to completely fall apart.

[crimson flume]

So yeah, my opponent was probably caught off guard.

Cause my dark lauriat instantly killed the final mon.

[crimson flume]

Yea.

[acoustic cloak]

That's how rigid and formulaic the meta is now.

[solid frigate]

this is invalid on Open Team Sheets btw

[crimson flume]

Is the global competition best of 3 and ots?

Or is it like ladder bo1?

I registered and it's my first time.

[next stump]

ladder bo1

[acoustic cloak]

I'll admit surprise is how I catch a lot of opponents off guard with my Hisuian Electrode.

Also reminds me of my Gen 4 and Gen 5 Wigglytuff.

That was an Anti-Lead set.

Copycat/Counter/Magic Coat/Snatch.

[solid frigate]

damn

[acoustic cloak]

It's Wigglytuff, so people just wrote it off and did their usual plans.

Machamp with the Scarf No Guard? Focus Sash + Counter.

Scizor with Swords Dance? Snatched.

Stealth Rock? Magic Coat. Now you have the rocks.

[solid frigate]

oh boi

[acoustic cloak]

My favorite situation was a Ferrothorn that tried to set up Rocks and Spikes.

I bounced both back at him, bounced his second attempt at Rocks, and then he went for the frustrated Gyro Ball, which Counter KO'd.

[solid frigate]

lol

[acoustic cloak]

Wouldn't work today.

But it was a fun time.

I miss Gen 4.

[mighty stump]

Not really, you can still catch opps off guard with techs/gameplans if you’re aware of your lines

Beat Up/Justified isn’t any less lethal on OTS/CTS

[acoustic cloak]

It isn't any less lethal, but they will see it coming now. I think that's the difference.

Because they will see that you chosen Justified instead of whatever the normal Ability of choice would be.

It also eliminates most of the already niche use cases for stuff like Frisk, Anticipation, and other niche info gathering Abilities.

[feral shale]

Anyone down to play Scarlet/Violet doubles?

[next stump]

playing a current top 5 player in the GC and their team is wild lol

will report back with any weird techs

[summer shore]

Prolly eruption typh and arboliva is a specific check for some things?

[candid plover]

Is torrent a good ability?

[lofty tartan]

Dillon didn't report back so I assume it wasn't weird enough

[lofty tartan]

Not really, no

[cyan smelt]

they really screwed swampert over with abilities, torrent and damp

[candid plover]

My primarina has it, idk if I wanna change it to sparkling aria but I think torrent sounds better?

[lofty tartan]

Liquid Voice, you mean?

And Torrent/Blaze/OVergrow/Swarm are all exceptionally mid

Torrent is an ability, Liquid Voice is a hidden ability, Sparkling Aria is a signature move for Primarina (and it's also not good)

[candid plover]

So either way it doesn't matter?

[lofty tartan]

Liquid Voice is better than Torrent - turns all sound-based moves into Water moves. Don't use Torrent.

[candid plover]

Alright thank you

[lofty tartan]

Primarina has access to Hyper Voice, so with Liquid Voice it becomes a strong water spread move.

And no worries

[mighty stump]

Why the fuck did I see this exact roster and I called it clunky as shit

Like literally

in this chat

[dull ibex]

im mad at myself I made another stupid as hell play

two dumb plays oh my god

[dull ibex]

we love game winning crits

[azure ether]

is the GC limited to only 15 battles or is it 15 battles per day?

[dull ibex]

really wish I could practice on showdown 😔

[molten oasis]

per day

[molten oasis]

why cant you?

[dull ibex]

its wolfe's team

[molten oasis]

ok, get your own evs

or figure them out

[azure ether]

thanks. this is going to be a long one then. tfw GC3 is our Nats qualis

[dull ibex]

this is terrible advice

the team no longer is wolfe's team if I use my spreads

[molten oasis]

waht the fuck else am i supposed to say

[dull ibex]

Don't say anything at all at that point LMAO

[molten oasis]

"heres wolfey's evs, which i dont have"

[molten oasis]

great idea

[dull ibex]

Im just sad I can't use it on showdown lmao

[molten oasis]

you could, if you just used other ev spreads, its still the same 6

[dull ibex]

Maybe ill find that super boring team tofu mentioend and play

[molten oasis]

and theres no way for you to get them anyway

[dull ibex]

but its not, the spreads make the mons

[molten oasis]

what

moves change the mons a lot more than the evs

the evs matter plenty yes but the moves and tera's matter more overall

[dull ibex]

no they dont

all matter equally, unless its all 252 252 4

[molten oasis]

sure, whatever

[dull ibex]

lmao

[molten oasis]

no point in arguing

im always fucking wrong

[dull ibex]

in this case yes you are

[molten oasis]

no red

its literaly EVERY FUCKING TIME I SAY ANYTHING in your eyes im wrong

doesnt matter what

i am wrong

[dull ibex]

you make wrong statements sometimes, there has been plenty of times i've told you I was wrong

don't pull that bullshit with me please

[molten oasis]

not really

[dull ibex]

also im usually right

[molten oasis]

i do not remember a single time you said you were wrong from ANY point i make

[dull ibex]

especially in this case where alot of the team has specific calcs and use cases

its just not the same team without the spreads

[molten oasis]

no youre not

[dull ibex]

even if i was wrong what is the point of being woah is me over a fucking pokemon argumemt

you make it impossible to talk to you

[molten oasis]

cool

[dull ibex]

like get over it jesus fucking christ

[molten oasis]

cool

[dull ibex]

anyways shell balance that was the team

I dont remember the six, I could probably ask the other discord im in

I found it!

[dull ibex]

LMAO apparently showdown has it in sample teams

https://pokepast.es/769c206bc8352b09

[molten oasis]

Sorry, there’s no excuse for how I acted. Shouldn’t have said that, I got mad and I have problems.

I’m about to break and im barely keeping it together

[dull ibex]

it happens

[molten oasis]

I’ll try to be better about lashing out

[dull ibex]

I hope you get better at that

[molten oasis]

No I will be better about lashing out

School is stressing me out

I won’t say anything more

[dull ibex]

🫡

[molten oasis]

Team looks solid hope it works out

[dull ibex]

me too

im watching wolfe's video in the mean team

[molten oasis]

That’s good

[dull ibex]

ye

[elder bridge]

What is a strategy that beats porygon 2, amoongus, incin and rapid urshifu

[molten oasis]

Imma be honest

Not sure lol

But you probably want to try and prevent trick room

A goggles and/or grass Mon helps for incin

Wellspring is solid into shifu, you can also run raging bolt

P2 is generally just very bulky, id try ti mitigate its damage with snarl or parting shot so that it’s just a sitting duck on the field

[cyan smelt]

Anything with taunt shuts down p2 and amoonguss

[molten oasis]

Raging bolt, goggles incin or ogerpon (hearth or wellspring) sounds decent into that

I haven’t played into it much so I’m not sure what to use

[dull ibex]

that video is incredible btw

wolfey is such a GOOD player

[acoustic cloak]

He is a great resource. He's been in the game almost as long as I have, but has been far more successful. He's got such a good grasp of Pokemon and the meta game. He really knows his stuff.

Definitely makes great content too.

Very charismatic.

[gentle delta]

13-2 in gc day 1 lfggg

[mighty stump]

Gholdengo + setup

[gentle delta]

https://tenor.com/view/armarouge-pokemon-pokemon-scarlet-and-violet-gif-9359570322074301928

[graceful walrus]

Does anyone know where I can ask for help with my team? I’d just like someone to tell me what I can improve with

[mighty stump]

Well, here.

This would be the place

[graceful walrus]

Oh okay cool

Would chi yu, metagross, primarina, meowscarada, polywrath and landorus T be a good team?

It’s got great coverage

[lofty tartan]

It would be better, honestly, to get a pokepaste showing information beyond the initial six pokemon, which doesn't tell us a whole lot of information.

Though I can say Poliwrath just isn't that good right now, and neither is Meowscarada

[graceful walrus]

https://mypokemonteam.com/

Oh damn it doesn’t show the Pokémon

[charred saddle]

itd be easier to take a look at the team if we can see the EV spreads, IV, and items

and so, pokepaste is generally better for this.

you can just make your team in pokemon showdown teambuilder, then import the team to pokepaste

click upload to pokepaste below, and jjust copypaste the link

https://pokepast.es/b40e19954382d9e0

like so

[ripe ember]

You can work with this

[gentle crag]

woodtofu (ID 250386799363489808)

[Message](#competitive_discussion message) in #competitive_discussion

Command triggered by dazedmika. Message from · Feb 20, 2024, 6:08 PM

[lofty tartan]

[mighty stump]

Rather than using a general roster for coverage, you want to have a gameplan in mind already. I also want to call to mind an awareness about the meta-game and to temper your expectations when using preferential picks, and being realistic about what options can work. Each piece should have a reason to be there that forwards the overall gameplan

[autumn vault]

https://pokepast.es/ece256f356b92fde
https://pokepast.es/f9ab8e28df8471a4
Which is better? I noticed on the team with wellspring is that grass types are pretty hard to deal with, i am not sure if i should go with follow me hearthflame or play rough for dragons (I am tempted to use drago's FM spread)

[dull ibex]

@mighty stump @bold geode https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regf-2091686315 funni

[foggy lodge]

Bad

Urshifu rapid strike>>> Poliwrath

Chi-Yu doesn't have many good partners so it doesn't has too much value on the team

[polar canyon]

It's not only about coverage

[foggy lodge]

Meowscarada could be good but, still there are better grass types, but it can work

[polar canyon]

You kinda wanna look at having offensive pressure while maintaining a balanced defense

Some of those are pretty offensive

Like chi yu and meowscarada

But by themselves they don't do way too much

Yk

That's where the team synergy comes in

[foggy lodge]

Yeah

That's why i don't think Chi-Yu doesn't do too much on the team, it's 4 physical attackers and Primarina, and Primarina is slow so it's hard to take too much advantage of the beads of ruin

The coverage is good so i think it's better going for a balance team

[molten oasis]

The team with Hearthflame should handle grass types fine

And don’t run play rough

You have tools ti handle dragons

(Strong neutrals)

Once again I don’t like houndstone but you should be wisping the grass types (rilla wellspring)

[foggy lodge]

I think Lycanroc or Excadrill would be better for a sand team

And i don't know how much is the Ursaluna BM + Farigiraf doing

Also leftovers Raging Bolt should always run protect

It's like a rule that it's not a rule, but every Pokémon who runs leftovers should have protect

[molten oasis]

Bolt wants tclap tbolt dpulse protect and calm mind at the same time in this case, so I kinda understand dropping protect for tbolt

[solid frigate]

what did i miss

[foggy lodge]

Let's try to build a Dipplin team

[solid frigate]

Wolfey Reference???

[foggy lodge]

Yes

[molten oasis]

May I ask why

Especially over Hydrapple

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/dipplin-says-hi-gif-13049396199115743133

[foggy lodge]

I just opened youtube and found a Dipplin guide from like 7 months ago

And i don't think it's thaaaaat bad

[molten oasis]

Just use Hydrapple, it’s a lot better

In terms of Dipplin and Hydrapple that is

[solid frigate]

i mean its extremely Bulky With Eviolite,but Incineroar exists

and Knock off

[foggy lodge]

Anyways is gonna be 5 meta Pokémon+ Dipplin

[molten oasis]

What are you doing with it exactly

Cuz generally, I’m telling you just to use Hydrapple

[solid frigate]

i think Maxi want to do something similar to Wolfey, being funni

[molten oasis]

It gets all the same moves, along with fickle beam

It’s defense is way higher

I think

[chrome knot]

but he wants to be quirky and different!!

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 1011: Dipplin

Types

Grass/Dragon

Abilities

Supersweet Syrup, Gluttony, Sticky Hold (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

80/80/110/95/80/40

Total

485

SableyeBot version 4.26.2

Hydrapple [Grass/Dragon]

Resists (0.25x)

Electric, Grass, Water

Resists (0.5x)

Ground

Neutral damage

Dark, Fighting, Fire, Ghost, Normal, Psychic, Rock, Steel, Stellar

Weak (2x)

Bug, Dragon, Fairy, Flying, Poison

Weak (4x)

Ice

Type Notes

Grass-types are immune to Powder-based Moves.

SableyeBot version 4.26.2

[solid frigate]

add 50% buff on eviolite

[molten oasis]

Wait wrong one

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 1019: Hydrapple

Types

Grass/Dragon

Abilities

Supersweet Syrup, Regenerator, Sticky Hold (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

106/80/110/120/80/44

Total

540

SableyeBot version 4.26.2

[solid frigate]

same defenses??

[molten oasis]

Higher hp my bad

I’m not gonna stress this that much

[foggy lodge]

https://pokepast.es/a6ff3472014abd28

[molten oasis]

Hydrapple is MUCH better

[foggy lodge]

Let's gooo

[molten oasis]

Where’s ogerpon

If you’re gonna run Dragon cheer gimmicks you should run ogerpon

And you want Tera fairy or steel

[dapper crag]

Move: Dragon Cheer

Raises the target's chance for a critical hit by 1 stage, or by 2 stages if the target is Dragon type. Fails if there is no ally adjacent to the user, or if the target already has this effect or the Focus Energy effect. Baton Pass can be used to transfer this effect to an ally.

Type

Dragon

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

15 (24)

Move Flags

​

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Authentic

Bypasses substitute.

Contact

Does not make contact.

SableyeBot version 4.26.2

[molten oasis]

And again HYDRAPPLE IS BETTER

[foggy lodge]

https://pokepast.es/22b05da7b877435b

Forgot the tera lol, but it was tera fairy dipplin

I would just use it on ranked bo1 closed teamsheet

But yeah Hydrapple would be better

[solid frigate]

ok did Kyogre just use Drizzle on my area-

[molten oasis]

There’s also a whopping 1 thing benefiting from syrupsweet

Use Hydra give it regenerator

[foggy lodge]

Iron Bundle would be good on it replacing Urshifu?

[upbeat quail]

Bitter blade on ceruledge is so busted lol

[molten oasis]

Iron bundle is mid

[foggy lodge]

Ok let's see if i can make Hydrapple work

[molten oasis]

You need to surround it with meta mons cuz it does not do very good

[foggy lodge]

It's more like a glue

Now is more of a niche Pokémon

[solid frigate]

nah because its literally every set will ran

[foggy lodge]

Like Regieleki

[solid frigate]

imagine Corny pop in and say its not niche-

[molten oasis]

Hydrapple @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Regenerator
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Quiet Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Fickle Beam
• Pollen Puff
• Yawn
• Protect

Nah bundle is mid it is not glue lol

[upbeat quail]

No 90 base power move should recover health

[foggy lodge]

Does it learn something like nasty plot or calm mind?

[molten oasis]

Don’t do nasty plot

[foggy lodge]

Buuu

[molten oasis]

Don’t

I played with Hydrapple for a month

Yawn is it’s best set

[foggy lodge]

It's like an Amoonguss with a 160 base power move

[molten oasis]

Sure yea

Tera fairy is for single strike

Yiu can also run steel as it covers for its weaknesses

The set I sent is what I got working after a lot of work

[solid frigate]

but only a chance of it happening

[molten oasis]

Unfortunately Hydrapple isn’t very good because of it’s typing being such a detriment to it

[solid frigate]

still tho its either gonna be Dragon Claw Power or Gigaton Hammer Base Power

[molten oasis]

Cuz it has everything else

[molten oasis]

Chip damage

Is still valuable

[foggy lodge]

At least it's lucky that it was introduced in the gen where you can change your type

But still with that it's not very good

You don't want to tera a specific mon 90% of the times you bring it to a match

[molten oasis]

Yea it sucks

Really unfortunate for it

Torrent did you ever finish that terapagos team

[solid frigate]

i was abut to mention,i already did yesterday and you saw that

[molten oasis]

I don’t remember it

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/4ed452fa43a0f50d

The team with Primarina onit?

[molten oasis]

Right

Yiu never put shifu on it?

I thought that was something we decided on

[solid frigate]

i decided not cuz its not tanky enough to survive special attackers running around in restricted

[molten oasis]

cough not miraidon

K well, bo3?

[solid frigate]

sure

[molten oasis]

User?

[solid frigate]

MorrisPXG456

yes i made this acc before i fully into VGC

[stray badger]

I'm working on my Hisuian Goodra team and already have a base Goodra team, I'm still thinking about what I'll make the rest of my teams around, probably Dragonite at least

[foggy lodge]

What's the hisuian goodra set?

[stray badger]

Maushold, Sinistcha, Inciniroar, Alolan Ninetales, Anniahlape

[autumn vault]

They are too fast for tr, ursaluna BM/Tyranitar do great with farigiraf, protect isn't always needed and iirc i am running AV on it

[stray badger]

Base Goodra is Whimsicott, Gholdengo, Rilaboom, Inciniroar, and Kingambit

[molten oasis]

Man

[foggy lodge]

I suppose the H-Goodra is a iron defense body press set

[molten oasis]

Gg

[solid frigate]

ggs man

[molten oasis]

That thing

Sucks

[solid frigate]

Incineroar and Terapagos are so good

[molten oasis]

Can we go again

[solid frigate]

you can just one shot me with Close Combat

[molten oasis]

It doesn’t

Nothing one shots terapagos

[solid frigate]

it does i learnt the hard way

[autumn vault]

Lets be thankful that terapagos doesn't get iron defense, otherwise with CM its a wall and wall breaker

[molten oasis]

…

[solid frigate]

imagine tho-

[molten oasis]

oh it does

At +1

Can we go again

[solid frigate]

sure

[stray badger]

Unfortunately I didn't realize that I needed to teach it acid armor before evolving for no good reason

[foggy lodge]

It does not learn acid armor after evolving?

[stray badger]

Nope :)

Can't relearn it, can't TM it, can't mirror herb it, just out of luck

[foggy lodge]

No mirror herb breeding?

Brooo

[stray badger]

Shell armor completely replaces it

[foggy lodge]

That's a bitch

[stray badger]

It's not that important, it's just a little more PP for the move, but it's still dumb

[foggy lodge]

Nah then don't worry

[stray badger]

The problem is still just the Maushold and Sinistcha since my comp teams are all shiny and they have rare forms

[foggy lodge]

I remember that if you made your Crocalor forget/ not learn yawn it could not relearn it once evolved and now it can

[stray badger]

I hope they change how Shell Armor works and give H-Goodra acid armor, since that's the only reason it can't learn it

[molten oasis]

Ggs

[solid frigate]

ggs

[foggy lodge]

What's the problem with that?

I'm slow sorry

[molten oasis]

Noted, run urshifu lmao

[solid frigate]

holy crap i did not know my team is THAT Annoying

[solid frigate]

i have to learn Incin Pivot-

[molten oasis]

It is

Terapagos is so annoying, you having torn is also really annoying

[dull ibex]

Is there a good shell balance rental?

[solid frigate]

oh yeah the tornadus you promised (Make sure to add fresh start Mochi

[molten oasis]

Can’t today, I’m literally busy all day

[solid frigate]

oh

[molten oasis]

Like I can do things on my phone

[autumn vault]

I just ran into a psyspam team with indeedeedee setting it up with a move

[molten oasis]

But I won’t have access to my switch today

[solid frigate]

i see its ok,i can wait,besides Whimsicott final days in the team

[molten oasis]

Lol

I’m generally very surprised you didn’t expect a wood hammer t1

[solid frigate]

RIP my favourite Cotton Candy girl(Yes its a girl)

[autumn vault]

Why?

[molten oasis]

I have no reason to fake out there lol

As you’re covert cloak torn

[solid frigate]

yeah about that i don't have good shit to use That can delete Rillaboom with

[molten oasis]

Incin

[solid frigate]

Moonblast is the best option but still-

[solid frigate]

i fucking forgot-

[molten oasis]

And sunny day

[solid frigate]

tho if its double Restricted i might make Tornadus not use Sunny day or Keep sunny day but not using Kyogre

[molten oasis]

I’m Tera dragon on Zac for all the ogers and then taking like, specs miraidon things

[stray badger]

The problem is getting them

[solid frigate]

yeah- i get you

i was not expect Tera Dragon

[stray badger]

Maushold has a horrible shiny to spot and I got punked twice trying to hunt authentic Poltchageist outbreaks

The outbreak was authentic, the shiny was not

[molten oasis]

Tera fire and Tera grass both keep weaknesses and I didn’t want to do water as testing that failed

[solid frigate]

ah

you learn something new everyday

[molten oasis]

Also g1 you didn’t need to Tera

You probably won not clicking Tera before I went for close combat

[solid frigate]

yeah-

set 1 round 2 i actually think i lost cuz what happen last night

[pearl wind]

does a pokemon with adaptability lose their original stab once they tera or do i remember wrong (for example basculegion goes for tera water, gets 2.25x water multiplier now, loses ghost stab)?

[solid frigate]

if you tera you keep your stab

[molten oasis]

We can go again if you want. The first bo3 I missplayed for sure, but clicking Tera is just, scary lol

[solid frigate]

just not extra stab

[molten oasis]

Infront of a terapagos

[solid frigate]

i need to wash the dishes and probably made some minor adjustments

[molten oasis]

All good

[next stump]

how has everyone's GC run been going?

[molten oasis]

I didn’t do it. How’s your run?

[next stump]

I hard threw two of my matches but I ended day one 11-3 so I'm still pretty happy

I'm running a very cheese team

[molten oasis]

It’s the power band shifu team right?

[next stump]

yep hahahah

the main issue is tyranitar teams because I need to have Urshifu positioned next to Torkoal to deal with them, otherwise they're not easy at all

specs earth power does like 25% to Tyranitar it's gross how hard torkoal is walled

[solid frigate]

i feel like my team is gonna be Annoying like me irl

[pearl wind]

figured it out i think, if basc goes tera water it gets 2.25x on water moves but loses the adaptability boost on its ghost moves

[solid frigate]

is it AV T-tar?

[stray badger]

Figuring out what teams I could make would be a lot easier if I could actually shiny hunt legendaries

The only non-locked game I have rn is BDSP

[solid frigate]

#shiny_hunters

[mighty stump]

Just look at usage stats and go from there lol.

[solid frigate]

i think Shiny Hunters would have better answers

[stray badger]

Though my Sinistcha does have the uncommon mark, should I just go with that instead since it's actually noticeable?

[molten oasis]

Oof lol

Ttar teams can shine in gc

[autumn vault]

I can confirm this

[solid frigate]

ttar is such underdog,like power creep is hindering it but somehow he is still rising

[autumn vault]

I just got very lucky in a turn

[autumn vault]

Excadrill and Lycanroc are assisting tyranitar a lot, sand giving it a massive special defense is also a contributor, tera and amazing everything except typing

[molten oasis]

Reg f bo3 anyone?

[solid frigate]

why do i feel Like Terapagos would be the Next Lunala-

[mighty stump]

let sgo

[molten oasis]

Shit

[solid frigate]

yeah its really does

[mighty stump]

Lmaooooo

[molten oasis]

Was not expecting tofu ngl

[solid frigate]

LOL-

[molten oasis]

Alright

[bold geode]

Tofu was the fuckin Undertaker

[molten oasis]

Lemme pull out my laptop

[autumn vault]

Redeem yourself infront of the lord himself Drago, you can do it

[molten oasis]

Tofu jumpscare

[solid frigate]

make this an actual thing-

[molten oasis]

It’s reg f, I have a “better” chance (I’m gonna get rolled)

[molten oasis]

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/controlmypc-cat-screaming-discord-gif-20582295

[autumn vault]

Eat some tofu

[mighty stump]

Im on main @molten oasis

jus WoodTofu

[molten oasis]

Cool

Chatrooms: help lmao

[solid frigate]

i love people naming their discord user names Foods

[autumn vault]

Showdown chatrooms are wild arent they

Wild team

[solid frigate]

why do i feel like Red's Team but minor tweaks

[autumn vault]

Tyranitar wiped that team out

[molten oasis]

gg

[autumn vault]

Of course with tornadus' tailwind

[mighty stump]

GGs

[autumn vault]

Gapdos guy lost right?

[molten oasis]

No poky I didn’t win I got steamrolled

Per usual

[autumn vault]

I mean it is the master after all

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/terapagos-pokemon-pokemon-terapagos-liko-pokemon-liko-gif-11019987416015928811

[autumn vault]

The master murders teams with just a bit of effort

[molten oasis]

It wasn’t even close I got 4-0ed twice

[autumn vault]

I think i would lose to him in 2 turns

[molten oasis]

This team sucks into this

[autumn vault]

3 at best

[molten oasis]

Nothing I can do about it

[solid frigate]

holy damn-

[mighty stump]

I think you guys are gassing me up a bit too much

[solid frigate]

i mean-

you are one of the competitve Helper

[molten oasis]

[autumn vault]

You did absolutely beat the shit out of Drago's team

[molten oasis]

Why

Do you always fucking RUB IT IN

[mighty stump]

Yeah but like it's just one set

Drago plays really well

[molten oasis]

Like cmon stop, it’s every time

[mighty stump]

I'm sure you all have your moments

[autumn vault]

Chill it was only twice Drago

[molten oasis]

It’s more than just 1

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/stove-turn-off-turning-of-the-stove-shokidding-showtime-gif-12704373

[molten oasis]

Sorry, I’m frustrated I played poorly

[solid frigate]

I'm not gonna say anything maybe

[autumn vault]

Dont worry, you can beat him next time

[mighty stump]

Wanna try again?

[molten oasis]

it’s not the team it was my plays and I made the wrong calls

[solid frigate]

i want to make a joke but i feel like its not the right moment

[molten oasis]

sure

[mighty stump]

ok

lemme get some bread first

I haven't eaten the whole day since I got home from work I just woke up from the fattest nap of my life

[solid frigate]

i feel like if someone got washed by Tofu,their gravestone always has drink too much Soy Milk

don't question why i think about that

[molten oasis]

Cool

[solid frigate]

at least you got power nap

I kinda just don't

[autumn vault]

I slept at 11:30 PM (or 12 AM idk) and woke up at nearly 12 PM

[solid frigate]

damn 30 minutes???

i think Drago and Some others know i literally don't sleep-

[autumn vault]

Or 23:30 (or 00:00) and woke up at nearly 12:00

[solid frigate]

Oh.

[mighty stump]

well considering I wake up for work at 6

[solid frigate]

eh fair point

i just kinda don't have enough sleep and when i go to school i make wacky teams in School's Laptop

[mighty stump]

ok @molten oasis

[molten oasis]

I’m ready whenever

[dull ibex]

Hey tofu you said that japan team is called shell yeah?

[solid frigate]

you got this my boi

[mighty stump]

i just call it the japan shell

[autumn vault]

you got it drago

[dull ibex]

Do you know where the original is?

[mighty stump]

or japan balance

[autumn vault]

go get him

[mighty stump]

itts just about the roster

[dull ibex]

Gotcha

[mighty stump]

oh

woops

forgor ots

ill send it

[molten oasis]

It’s fine

[dull ibex]

Someone in another discord called it an evolution of Wolfe team

[mighty stump]

https://pokepast.es/0fa7f1968890b778 @molten oasis

[dull ibex]

So I might just practice that for now too

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/3be4e2a6b18d41e7

[stray badger]

I do think that I've seen hacked mon that have a "legitimate" OT

Like old gift pokemon

[autumn vault]

of course when i Bo3 i have the wrong team

[solid frigate]

F

[dull ibex]

https://pokepast.es/026c9faae5932fc1 found one

[mighty stump]

https://pokepast.es/0e5237a4cec835be This is Brady,s some of the EVs are kinda shit but it works ig

[dull ibex]

Looking for a rental as well to switch between ladder and ranked

But fair

[stray badger]

I have my Goodra team up for rental, I don't have image permissions yet though

[autumn vault]

Comfey is a stupid bitch with triage and fairy feather

[solid frigate]

lol

i have a shiny Comfey don't burn it

[stray badger]

Funny flower ring

[autumn vault]

https://tenor.com/view/flame-thrower-leonardo-dicaprio-lance-flamme-burn-burning-gif-21661296

[solid frigate]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[autumn vault]

Why is triage so stupid

[stray badger]

Jokes on you, it's pure fairy type

[solid frigate]

ik but fairy is not good against Fire Types

fire resist its stab lol

[autumn vault]

atleast it's prone to being upper handed very easily

[solid frigate]

mhm

i wanna make the Ba Dum tiss

but eh next time

[stray badger]

Same problem as Florgus

[molten oasis]

Ggs

[mighty stump]

GGs @molten oasis

[molten oasis]

Cannot believe that didn’t kill p2

[solid frigate]

that took Longer damn

[mighty stump]

See Drago can win a set

[solid frigate]

LETS GO MY MAN

[mighty stump]

You just lose mental too easily

[molten oasis]

I have to play out of my fucking mind lol

[mighty stump]

Should we ramp up the difficulty

[solid frigate]

I mean you won so Yea

[molten oasis]

But yea, mental is uh, I’m working on it lol

School is stressful

[autumn vault]

Nice drago

[solid frigate]

same my man

[autumn vault]

true

[molten oasis]

sure

I’m down for one more

[autumn vault]

not worried now because it's spring break

[mighty stump]

okiedokie

[solid frigate]

yep

[autumn vault]

surprised drago is doing it now

[solid frigate]

huh

[autumn vault]

I noticed that i play too recklessly in matches, got to play more carefully

[solid frigate]

and i played too carefully and can't do shit on players

[mighty stump]

GGs @molten oasis

Just for the G2

[solid frigate]

i just realised i prep too much

[foggy lodge]

Not related but i wish they add Scream Tail as a skin to Jigglypuff in the next smash😭

[solid frigate]

TRUE

[foggy lodge]

Or as an echo fighter

[mighty stump]

GGs @molten oasis

[molten oasis]

ggs

[foggy lodge]

They always add a new Pokémon in every smash game

[solid frigate]

i think Ash Greninja,Clone Kanto Starters also work

[molten oasis]

i didnt know we were speed tied

[mighty stump]

That 1 turn sleep tho

[molten oasis]

wasnt paying enough attention

yea

[foggy lodge]

You can just, copypaste Jiggly, change some thing here, some things there, and you complete the task of adding a new Pokémon

[molten oasis]

that was crazy, i lost if that didnt happen

[solid frigate]

ah

[molten oasis]

that was fun, close games like that are awesome

feels better than getting 4-0ed lol

[solid frigate]

its entertaining because it creates a sense of suspence

[mighty stump]

Now that you've won two sets next time you have an upsetti moment you're indirectly calling me bad if you call yourself a shit player

[solid frigate]

yep thank you English GCSE

[molten oasis]

lmfao, ok

im gonna work on that

ik its a problem

[mighty stump]

Anyone else wanna play a set?

[solid frigate]

playing smash rn

[molten oasis]

but smash is lame

vgc is cool

[solid frigate]

i mean, i over preped for like 3 days

[foggy lodge]

OHHH LET'S PLAY

[autumn vault]

If Fucker Mane gets added to smash i swear i will stop paying for Nintendo products

[foggy lodge]

I have to practice

[molten oasis]

you also play smash

[autumn vault]

I also play smash but i haven't played it in a long time

[molten oasis]

i quit cuz it was an unhealthy addiction

that game makes me so mad

[foggy lodge]

I play it butbi usually get like the strikes

[solid frigate]

i haven't play for so long and i actually done a lot in Pokemon so have a little break for it

[autumn vault]

I feel the exact same about MK8D, it is too luck based and it literally made me quite insane, i quit it. I pray Nintendo doesn't make a game as luck based as Mario Kart 8 Un-deluxe

[atomic mural]

are you me

[foggy lodge]

Nah that's why i don't take MK8 seriously

[autumn vault]

pro tip: Never do

[solid frigate]

alright i'll make the arena ok

[foggy lodge]

It's funny funny until you get the worst fucking luck of all time

[foggy lodge]

Let's goo

[autumn vault]

except that always happens to me

No matter how well i play, i always get held back by luck

[molten oasis]

Smash is so unbalanced as well

[solid frigate]

1FL8G
658 (Greninja's National Dex Number)

[autumn vault]

Sonic is what killed the game for me

[solid frigate]

Me who mains Aegis not because they broken

[autumn vault]

Steve is dumb, but Sonic is dumb af

and i am a steve main myself (yes, sue me)

[molten oasis]

Steve is so dumb

[solid frigate]

Steve is Dumb but i like to play against steve cuz its funny

[molten oasis]

Kazuya is also dumb

[solid frigate]

Greninja,Aegis Toon Link main here so yeah

[autumn vault]

ko'ing people at 80% with a cart is fun

[solid frigate]

FINALLY

[atomic mural]

https://tenor.com/view/smash-bros-little-mac-simply-a-difference-in-skill-skill-issue-hazza-gif-22022576

[solid frigate]

SOMEONE KNOW ME

[autumn vault]

Atleast Kazuya is skill based unlike sonic and steve

[molten oasis]

Seph Gren Terry main

[solid frigate]

@foggy lodge oh here it is

[molten oasis]

Primarily seph

[foggy lodge]

me

I'm Juliii

[solid frigate]

Fellow froggy main

[autumn vault]

I main Aegis swords, steve, King DDD and Byleth

[molten oasis]

Based, for dedede

[solid frigate]

Aegis Based

[dull ibex]

im not sure how to balance japan balance tbh

[solid frigate]

[molten oasis]

My friend played byleth

[pallid hare]

you dont

[molten oasis]

He was also like, hard addicted to the game

[molten oasis]

That’s the, double fo shifu bolt team right?

[dull ibex]

yeah

[autumn vault]

interesting

[molten oasis]

What about it is giving you trouble?

[dull ibex]

I dont know my leads and combos like I do with wolfe's team

[molten oasis]

Well

Actually I need a paste

[dull ibex]

I got one

[molten oasis]

Idk what your 5th and 6th are as that tends to vary, and also sets

[dull ibex]

https://pokepast.es/026c9faae5932fc1

I do not know what any of the sets do btw

[molten oasis]

Alr

Raging bolt is a set up sweeper

You lead it and usually rilla or incin depending on the mu

[dull ibex]

this went day 2 at a tourney and had a rental as well so I chose it at rnadom

[dull ibex]

gotcha

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regf-2091790123

[solid frigate]

i get zard'd

ggs

[foggy lodge]

Nah i play Pokémon Trainer

[solid frigate]

but damn the Ivysaur

[atomic mural]

based

[foggy lodge]

Ivysaur is so broken

[solid frigate]

i respect the Ivysuar thats actually very good

[foggy lodge]

I mean not broken but his moves are

Dumb, really dumb

[solid frigate]

yep

[atomic mural]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1122707714292854869/1175240520772104313/IvysaurUAir_1.gif?ex=656a8307&is=65580e07&hm=0d9d91fe60f69228be1d648ce137ad93441a260c8bf8f4ca1796fb1ea5e66c4e&

[molten oasis]

Really well played

Getting the call on wellspring not clicking follow me was good

you did lose shifu but it ended up being fine

It did it’s job

Are there any mu’s in specific you’re not sure on leading into

[mighty stump]

That Turn 4 play should have been Protect + Wood Hammer

The flinch bailed you out

[molten oasis]

I forgot about that flinch lol

[solid frigate]

my god i haven't play for so long

[molten oasis]

“Balanced”

Wood hammer ogerpon kinda crazy tho

[foggy lodge]

And kills like at 90%

[atomic mural]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1122707714292854869/1175233702188552222/GreninjaPivotGrab.gif?ex=656a7cad&is=655807ad&hm=293c672d242dbdec03cd9e1eb20659a87562a027be913eb733b71625ec5ff87d&

[foggy lodge]

🦖

[solid frigate]

Imagine Ogerpon in Smash

[atomic mural]

also pretty balanced

[foggy lodge]

PLEASE

[molten oasis]

Smash 6, we can only wait

[solid frigate]

i main froggy for a reason

[autumn vault]

Ivysaur did like 40% damage with that

[molten oasis]

It’s gonna happen there’s no way Nintendo doesn’t do another smash game

[autumn vault]

I would like to see skeledirge in smash

[molten oasis]

Unpopular opinion

[autumn vault]

especially if you realize it is the 2nd best game when it comes to sales

[molten oasis]

I think Zac would be cool

[atomic mural]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1122707714292854869/1175474815373676544/MarioBAir.gif?ex=656b5d3b&is=6558e83b&hm=d6df106e89c4939bf883ac208d36320e75016ab434a17dc5b27cfe20dede056c&

this move made me stop playing smash

[molten oasis]

Forward aerial

[autumn vault]

you know what made me quit smash?

Having a lot of games and needing to play all of them

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/aerial-forward-forward-aerial-f-air-mario-moive-gif-27171990

POV you’re offstage

[autumn vault]

If only he landed that on the opponent instead of them grabbing him

not spoiling it

[molten oasis]

Who hasn’t seen that movie

[mighty stump]

Pokemon and TFT are the only two games I play willingly

Lmao

[atomic mural]

nah but like mario back air comes out in 6 frames and ends in less than half of a second

[molten oasis]

Vgc is all we need

We’re not gonna talk about the insane range of characters in FP2

Like, the range in the characters movesets

[solid frigate]

damn it lol ggs

[molten oasis]

sephiroth can spike you under the stage

[solid frigate]

VGC,Xenoblade 2 and Legend of Zelda is alli need

[molten oasis]

has an up-air the size of a fucking building

[solid frigate]

I WAS PLAYING SEPTH

[molten oasis]

can sit on the side of the stage

has a comeback mechanic

[solid frigate]

welp GG Maxi i think thats enough training for me

[molten oasis]

Seph is funny

[foggy lodge]

Ivysaur too

[solid frigate]

Hinders from the Framerte-

[foggy lodge]

Ggs

[molten oasis]

I like seph, I don’t like the remainder of the fighters pass lol

FP1 was good

[solid frigate]

Greninja:just fucking dies in down Air