competitive_discussion

[craggy dagger]

you make a team on showdown and import to paste in the bottom of the screen

[vapid hedge]

Was hoping for a faster way haha i will post paste in a moment then

[wicked moon]

How is my comp 2v2 team?
Bidoof
Necrozma
Eternatus
Iron thorns
Walking wake
Alolan raichu

Well that really shut up the chat

[autumn vault]

Nope

Still here

[charred saddle]

u literally just click that

the upload to pokepaste

[wicked moon]

well what do u all think of my team

[vapid hedge]

Yeah but i dont have the team on showdown yet, im typing in the ivs as we speak

[autumn vault]

I don't play 2v2

[charred saddle]

dont play ou, only VGC

[wicked moon]

k well its also my singles team but i mainly play 2v2

[autumn vault]

Nah i play both

[charred saddle]

i mean i dont play them.

not you

[autumn vault]

Oh right

[craggy dagger]

i play

singles but im not used to it cause

i play-
little cup
heh

[vapid hedge]

https://pokepast.es/bdba93a39b007980

Took me a while but here it is, btw thanks for all the input, am considering it all atm

[craggy dagger]

adamant flutter what

[kindred cypress]

I’d use protect over nasty plot

And Draco meteor instead of dpulse

[craggy dagger]

okay all the natures are messed up

[vapid hedge]

Oh lord i forgot to swap natures

[craggy dagger]

or i think they are…?

[vapid hedge]

Ignore them all

[craggy dagger]

I WAS GONNA SAY

[charred saddle]

i have some funny idea somehow, if u are running a sunny day.

you can technically run specs flutter with speed booster

you can lead whim flutter, fake tears blast/gleam, or just sunny day gleam, if flutter is dead wake is in

[craggy dagger]

adamant max SpA flutter and Quiet Max Spe wake

[charred saddle]

specs with bulky

theres quite a lot of specs mane modest, +36 on spA, speed to outspeed certain MU, then rest on bulk

+36 on spA for 1st bump

[vapid hedge]

I really like that idea tbh

But do i cut the encore for sunny day then?

[charred saddle]

tbh idk haha

[vapid hedge]

Sorry, i was rushing to get it done, didnt change a single nature, pls dont judge 😦

[craggy dagger]

i would cut fake tears instead

[charred saddle]

whim has so much move it kinda wants

[craggy dagger]

no no it’s okay i’m just giggling cause i make the same mistakes often

[charred saddle]

eh no, FT is very good actually

[craggy dagger]

but you won’t need it if you’re having proto SpA boosted mons

[charred saddle]

not really a fan forweather thing since they can just manually change weather orsomething else

and with FT you can do like FT protect, tailwind and attack

well you can do the same for sunny day but then they wont have any other way to set off weather

id even just drop moonblast

[craggy dagger]

you get more value with encore than FT imo.
disabling an opponents pokemon is more valuable than KO-ing them cause sometimes they plan on sacking the pokemon

[craggy dagger]

that’s a no leo-

[charred saddle]

jk dursh is everywhere, so yeah encore maybe

[craggy dagger]

both aren’t gonna work on evil bear

[vapid hedge]

ima swap the fake tears for sunny day, i feel like i get a lot of value from encore

[craggy dagger]

or use scream tail with booster

encore disable

please ignore me-
i would like to use scream tail as a soccer ball-
i despise that set

[solid frigate]

lol

[bold geode]

Punt the lil fucker

[solid frigate]

LMAO

[craggy dagger]

AGREED

[solid frigate]

SEND IT TO THE MOON

[bold geode]

GOOOOOOOOOOAL

[timber falcon]

https://pokepast.es/04dab34b1eb0c775 btw heres my harcanine teams final set

any improvements that im missing?

[craggy dagger]

[cinder cosmos]

what’s a good pokemon/strat to combat an incineroar?

i was thinking kyogre with a spc att / speed build

[upbeat quail]

Flutter mane users = 🤡

[upbeat quail]

Covert cloak walking wake

[cinder cosmos]

thank you! i hadn’t thought of her

[gentle crag]

nikarita6437 has given 1 Gen Rep to anthropos4704

[tough idol]

So you're mocking about 50% of the player base

[charred saddle]

who the hell puts cloak on wake

i dont see any reason for it

[upbeat quail]

Can’t get fake out flinched or icy wind speed dropped.

[upbeat quail]

Yuh I guess so

[charred saddle]

yes and?

you can make the same point for most mon.

[real prairie]

This was absolute hell https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regfbo3-2072069997-713x0tb21m2lbwst63naw8jdhs4d75vpw

[upbeat quail]

Walking wake can kill an Incin turn 1 hydro steam, even bulky ones with a sun boost. Or you can flip turn out

[charred saddle]

... just protect at the FO turn.

needing to tailor the item just for 1 MU is off

ur basically winning incin mu, then what?

incin isnt threatening wake anywat

like what, worst is knocking off item

if ur worried of doule up, protect.

[upbeat quail]

shrug it’s been working for me lol.

[charred saddle]

well good for you then

[upbeat quail]

Taking out Incin turn one is better than protecting and letting it pivot out with parting shot.

Incin may not be a threat to wake, but those stat drops threaten everyone

[real prairie]

i just found something i hate more than incin...

wilo wisp incin

[upbeat quail]

Lol what

[solid frigate]

We all hate Incin don't worry

[kindred cypress]

Not everyone

Tofu stans him

[upbeat quail]

I like using Incin a lot, and covert cloak walking wake makes Incin easy to deal with 🙂

[real prairie]

i normally have no issues with Incin because I have Tsareena but will o wisp threw me

[bold geode]

Not me
Not my king

MY TRUE KING IS ANNIHILAPE THOUGH

But no Incineroar good

[solid frigate]

i'm more like Slightly hate in Retrospectively,but yeah

[real prairie]

If i hosted a group rounds then knockouts style Restricted tourny, anyone interested? Can be done in showdown for ease. Just to get some restricted practice in early

however not sure how to manage the rules on showdown lol

[solid frigate]

actually,thats sounds interesting

[solid frigate]

you could do it in SV maybe idk

[real prairie]

yeah its a lot of grinding for people though to get teams ready and I can't offer a prize ect

so it would just be for bragging rights

[solid frigate]

true,my restricted Format team missing 2 members

[real prairie]

does discord have the ability to run polls? might be a nice way to gauge interest

[solid frigate]

Landorus and Bolt

[solid frigate]

there is but i think only Mods right? unless you make a server for that event or something

and its for bots to run polls

[dawn crown]

for a single target option on sylveon do i use terablast or moon blast

[solid frigate]

Moonblast,Tera blast for Tera Fire

[real prairie]

thats a lot and i don't want to drag people away from the server, maybe put it in #1046572041421197352 or make a GC

[solid frigate]

maybe

add me to the GC

[real prairie]

interesting, does sylveons ability make tera blast a fairy type move outside of tera?

[solid frigate]

Idk actually

[real prairie]

🤔

[solid frigate]

i think we can test it

[kindred cypress]

Yes, it’s a normal type move

[dawn crown]

when tera blast is still normal type does it get boost from pixalate

[solid frigate]

so basically you got a Tera Fairy Tera Blast but no boost from Tera Stab

[kindred cypress]

Just put it in battle stadium

[dawn crown]

like i mean without tera

do i get stab and pixalate on it

[real prairie]

anything pixalate becomes stab no?

[tough idol]

You get STAB on it, bit if you tera anything but Fairy you'd lose Pixelate.

[real prairie]

Any more takers?

[tough idol]

I can't do Showdown or I would

[real prairie]

not sure if it would be showdown or not

trying to find out if i can even do custom rulesets on SD

[tough idol]

Only on Mobile so Showdown is a no for me lol 😅 it's so painful

[real prairie]

really sad there isn't an app yet

you'd think its big enough to have one

[tough idol]

An app wouldn't make it less painful lol

[real prairie]

depends how good the app is lol

[tough idol]

It's as streamlined as it could be on mobile as a webpage. An app wouldn't make it less painful, it's just screen size

[craggy dagger]

owh i would love to play on showdown-
i-
i can’t play in cart so…

[real prairie]

You can design the app to have a different front end that works better with the smaller screen, one idea is essentially have it look like a GBA rom, navigation through dummy buttons

[real prairie]

for those that are interested: #1213644015744843776

[grizzled bronze]

i think they cant do an app cause they will get nintendo'd

but im not sure honestly

[upbeat quail]

Flutter mane is more annoying than Incin, hands down

[warped mason]

How is iron crown indeedee rn?

Specifically in a hyper offense team

[mighty stump]

Its ok

[next stump]

anyone who has to rely on the global challenge to earn a worlds invite has my utmost sympathy

this is the worst form of pokémon possible

i would quit this game so fast if this is how all tournaments worked

[dull ibex]

Kickstands are pog that is all

[mighty stump]

Lmao

I matched into Edu, lost, and decided to just not play anymore

Nothing happened

I don’t know why GC feels worse than regular ladder too

[brazen bough]

because there is actually something on the line

[craggy dagger]

nod

[brazen bough]

i didnt even bother signing up tbh

[craggy dagger]

Tofu Tofu-
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regf-2072262255

LMAO

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regf-2072266082-el2k7j8kbojr23qqh1nlb3s0k5g1xoapw
heh pika pika mf

[mighty stump]

For majority of the people there isnt though

But ig

its just the sheer leveraging of CTS

which is fine

[brazen bough]

oh i should probably not speak like im the majority

thats me personally though i feel as though if i am playing in a tourney i have to do good

[fluid wind]

https://pokepast.es/f1b59379a81ac641 going postive so far

[dull ibex]

How is the meta going 👀

[bold geode]

Well if you look at this
Utrecht on some weird shit

More A9's in Day 2 than Amoongus

And 5 mons that are on more teams than Flutter

Whether or not this says anything for the meta? No clue other than one thing

Incin/Rapid Strike/Rilla/Lando I/Bolt/Chien Pao
Expect those 6 on a team together when you ladder

That's a 6 that's been going around

Also I think some of the Urshifu at least in that 6 I mentioned are Tera Steel?

https://pokepast.es/4b31f5f777c3170c
Basically something like this
But also keep in mind the Incineroars at least on stream from what I saw
Some had Wisp and I think one had Taunt?

So it could differentiate from the Incin spread in the paste

Also some Bolts are CM and some aren't

Anyways goodnight

[patent marsh]

this is a first for funny neck to be top2 ye?

[craggy dagger]

Clefable-

garticuno

[molten oasis]

My calling to play with a9 again

[timber falcon]

Incineroar @ Safety Goggles
Ability: Intimidate
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 100 Def / 156 SpD
Impish Nature

• Flare Blitz
• Knock Off
• Fake Out
• Taunt

any thoughts on this amoongus stopa incin?

im tryna make a metagross team-

[autumn vault]

No parting shot really hurts it

[grizzled bronze]

maybe replace knock

[autumn vault]

I think knock off for shot

[timber falcon]

ok

[grizzled bronze]

yeah taunt incin tends to drop knock

[autumn vault]

blitz already does pretty good damage on amoonguss

[grizzled bronze]

you need that pivot

[timber falcon]

its that tera water and rocky helm though

[grizzled bronze]

taunt it and deal pressure with your other mons

[timber falcon]

https://pokepast.es/de533fc8c0b3c28a this is the team rn

[autumn vault]

you can go:
Parting shot
Fake out
Knock off
Taunt

I used this and it did decent, obviously not better than standard but this should serve to counter amoonguss

[grizzled bronze]

wasting evs on rilla

[timber falcon]

i tend to do that a lot

[grizzled bronze]

just use the slider to avoid doing that

[timber falcon]

ok

ok so apart from that hows the team lookin

[grizzled bronze]

it looks pretty decent

wait tr meta

that's interesting

[timber falcon]

yeah my last team features tw so this time why not tr i thought

and metagross felt cool

btw should i replace mash with heavy slam?

[dapper crag]

Pokémon No. 376: Metagross

Types

Steel/Psychic

Abilities

Clear Body, Light Metal (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

80/135/130/95/90/70

Total

600

SableyeBot version 4.25.1

[timber falcon]

slam can do more and is more accurate, along with being a smuk stopa

[grizzled bronze]

but be careful cause some mons that threaten it outspeeds in tr

[autumn vault]

70 speed isn't that good to be built around it tr

It is manageable, but like Taiki said be careful

[timber falcon]

oh so it has an awkward speed

maybe for the last mon i add usaluna bm then?

[grizzled bronze]

cant go wrong with fariluna i guess

[autumn vault]

True

[timber falcon]

but im also scared of how easily a CC can sweep through most of my team

got no resistances

[autumn vault]

BM ursaluna is already better than its base form so go ahead

[grizzled bronze]

that's true

[timber falcon]

so im also leaning towards a ghost type or fairy yk

[autumn vault]

Then just change urshifu single to urshifu rapid for only 1 fighting weakness and fire water grass core

[timber falcon]

waterursh on a tr team?

[autumn vault]

i saw it before

doesn't need to be scarfed

[timber falcon]

anyway dark ursh is a must 4 me, cause of rival indeedees

not rival but threatning

[grizzled bronze]

so flutter mane

[autumn vault]

dont you already have knock off incin to threaten indee?

[timber falcon]

its 100% not gonna be enough to stop its shenanigans

sure rilla stops psyspam, but i want it dead and gone

[autumn vault]

taunt for follow me and knock off for bullying it

[timber falcon]

i forgot myself i added taunt lmfao

[autumn vault]

wait you dont have taunt i forgor

[timber falcon]

yeah i didnt change yet

but i will

anyway i know flutter has the typing i need, but what about the overall dynamic?

[autumn vault]

it can be a 2nd tr setter

[grizzled bronze]

i mean you can try it out in a battle and see how it functions, then adjust when needed

[autumn vault]

i have seen tr flutter

[timber falcon]

yeah but i dont got the items left for that to work

[autumn vault]

specs flutter can run tr

[timber falcon]

wait wha-

[dapper crag]

pov your playing pokemon showdown anything go's and you go against a kid with 6 legendairy's

[timber falcon]

thats a massive liabilty

[dapper crag]

ah shut here we go again

[autumn vault]

I have seen misty terrain specs flutter months ago (Honestly wtf)

[timber falcon]

clear amulet flutter just yesterday

[grizzled bronze]

you're playing in ag, what do you expect

[autumn vault]

use F.E.A.R. ratatta and destroy their day

[dapper crag]

what?

[grizzled bronze]

"damn why these people spamming legendary" in ubers

[dapper crag]

fucus sash ratatta?

with endevor?

[timber falcon]

"these baby pokemon spammers think their actually good" in LC

[grizzled bronze]

istg i played so many people complaining about spamming legendaries in ubers

[timber falcon]

aint no way

[grizzled bronze]

what them "salty legend spammer kid destroyed" videos does to you i guess 🤷‍♂️

[timber falcon]

fr imagine jumping into ag and bawling at the sight of an arceus (this could be avoided in another format)

though ill admit at one point i hated using legandaries and decided to try vgc without any (never again)

[grizzled bronze]

sometimes you gotta use it even if you dont like it

like some mons in comp became my favorite mons bc of how good they are

[molten oasis]

Alright y’all, day 2 regional in 10 minutes

Can’t wait for a9 to win

[autumn vault]

Ngl i want iron boulder to win the regionals

Blud deserves more respect

Pokemon in Utrech regionals

i am glad flutter isn't seeing more usage

[grizzled bronze]

it'll come back

we cant escape it

[dapper crag]

oh no

my opponent is stalling out time

so i put the battle timer on

[mighty stump]

Or just get good enough that you can use what you want

Lmao

[dapper crag]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7ou-2072341326

[grizzled bronze]

true that

shit wrong

[molten oasis]

Incin reclaims it’s top spot

[grizzled bronze]

day 2 usage

[molten oasis]

Bolt right next to it too

[grizzled bronze]

the king is so back

flutter mane at top 6 is crazy

[molten oasis]

Good fuck fluttermane

[autumn vault]

Flutter Mane is the bane to my existence, i am glad it isn't top 5

I also love that the urshifus have equal usage

[knotty mirage]

Huh neat watershifu got some usage again

And no amoongus to be seen that's interesting

[autumn vault]

Amoonguss is on 3/49 teams

[grizzled bronze]

it's only in 3 teams

[cyan smelt]

Why is wellspring more popular than hearthflame

[molten oasis]

Damn dude is undefeated

[molten oasis]

Water absorb, better into rapid strike

A9 on stream

And Registeel

Harc+A9 really be everywhere huh

[tough idol]

Woot A9 stream

Now to watch it lose

[molten oasis]

It will win

[torn parrot]

whose a9

[molten oasis]

Alolan ninetales

[torn parrot]

ohh ye

[tough idol]

Sheer Cold ftw

[molten oasis]

Must take notes, a9 rental might be on the table now

Am I hearing gen 8 wild battle music?

[tough idol]

Boom Regi Down

[molten oasis]

He hit the sheer cold

Bruh

This incin really went “fuck your sheer cold here’s 2 crits”

The arcanine is at -5

RNGsus really just constantly changing sides damn

[tough idol]

Those finches

[molten oasis]

And a crit

Not counting the 2 crits from incin

[torn parrot]

that was the hypest comeback ever

[molten oasis]

A9 for the win

[tough idol]

Will we get Sheer Cold hit number 2

[molten oasis]

[torn parrot]

this man is just clicking the rng button and hoping to win

[molten oasis]

Frfr

[torn parrot]

*gets it

[molten oasis]

No fucking way

[grizzled bronze]

gawd damn

[tough idol]

[molten oasis]

Domenico is fuming

[torn parrot]

they both look incredibly stressed

[timber falcon]

Lmao specs articuno

[torn parrot]

i genuinely hope he sheer colds his way to number 1

SHEER COLD SHEER COLD

SHEER COLD

rip

next time

[timber falcon]

Does burn affect body press?

[torn parrot]

yes

GOGOGOO LAND LAND LAND

):

[timber falcon]

Oof

[torn parrot]

next time for sure

[timber falcon]

DAMN THATS A STRONG FLAREBLITZ

[torn parrot]

YYYYYYASSSSSSS

i love it

[molten oasis]

NO FUCKING WAY

[timber falcon]

WWWWW

[torn parrot]

hope this guy wins

[molten oasis]

NO FUCKING WAY HE HIT 3 THIS WHOLE SET

[tough idol]

Domenico RAGING

[timber falcon]

PAGAHHAAH

[molten oasis]

It’s so joever

And shifu just loses to a9

[timber falcon]

What a way to lose

[molten oasis]

Hey shifu loses to a9

Noted

[timber falcon]

These teams are so fun to watch lmao

[molten oasis]

I cannot believe he got off 3 sheer colds

When they mattered too

[timber falcon]

I only saw the last one but if that missed he might’ve lost no?

Depending on the last mon

[grizzled bronze]

the rng master

[timber falcon]

Not only does he get a crucial burn but a crucial sheer cold

[tough idol]

Should have seen game 1

RNG couldn't decide who it wanted to win lmao

[torn parrot]

he's got that gotcha gamer luck

hope he wins the whole tournament on rng

[molten oasis]

I’m hoping a9 wins today

There’s 4, there’s a good chance

[true niche]

controversial opinion: ||ban OHKO moves in vgc||

[tough idol]

The % of hitting makes them fair

[torn parrot]

fair

hmmm

is it

the only thing that balances them is luck

not a great system

[patent marsh]

that 30% to land meanwhile I can't even get a single fickle beam to hit the 30% to double

[molten oasis]

Real

Ooo raging bolt overlook

[grizzled bronze]

best past paradox mon imo

[molten oasis]

Fluttermane? Nah raging bolt just better

[grizzled bronze]

for sure

[dapper crag]

- [Fire/Fairy]

Immune

Dragon

Resists (0.25x)

Bug

Resists (0.5x)

Dark, Fairy, Fighting, Fire, Grass, Ice

Neutral damage

Electric, Flying, Ghost, Normal, Psychic, Steel, Stellar

Weak (2x)

Ground, Poison, Rock, Water

Type Notes

Fire-types cannot be Burned.

SableyeBot version 4.25.1

[molten oasis]

For context I’m playing infinite fusion

Also wow, insane typing wtf

[patent marsh]

surprised we haven't gottena fire/fairy tbh

[dapper crag]

Fire, Fairy

Hits for 0.5x

Fire

Hits for 1x

Electric, Fairy, Flying, Ghost, Ground, Normal, Poison, Psychic, Rock, Stellar, Water

Hits for 2x

Bug, Dark, Dragon, Fighting, Grass, Ice, Steel

SableyeBot version 4.25.1

[patent marsh]

in fact we even have a mon that would've been good to be fire/fairy

[molten oasis]

God damn, really solid offensively too

[molten oasis]

Delphox would have been cool

I think on paper that makes sense

[patent marsh]

delphox is psychic makes sense cause witch

[molten oasis]

Then what Mon would be fire fairy

[patent marsh]

I forgor I just remember there was one that would've been so perfect lemme go try remember it

[grizzled bronze]

fire fairy incin guys

[molten oasis]

I swear if it gets that typing imma lose it

[patent marsh]

I think I complained about victini being perfect to be swapped to fire/fairy instead of fire/psychic but dun remember

or was it funny bread doggo

[molten oasis]

Victini does make sense

Maybe our fire starter in legends za will be fire fsiry

Then we get dragon and steel counter parts

So like fire fairy, water steel, and grass dragon

[tough idol]

3 new Eeveelutions right there LOL

[molten oasis]

I wanna see that Grimmsnarl team

[grizzled bronze]

fire fairy incin with special attack intimidate

[tough idol]

Ooh I want the Gart,Lilli,Wake match

[patent marsh]

I don't think we'd get a dragon type for a starter ever tbh even though SV let's you get a pseudo legendary dragon type pretty early

[molten oasis]

Well, if we have a dragon starter they HAVE to do a fsiry starter

[grizzled bronze]

i mean there's charizard i guess if you count that

[molten oasis]

Or they all have to be dragons

Id be a fan of that, it be cool

[cyan smelt]

Grass/dragon would get screwed over

[tough idol]

Wake, Lilligant, Gal Articuno coming up

[molten oasis]

Well it’s the only way the fire stays good into grass while water is still good into fire

Neat

[grizzled bronze]

serperior would get this 100%

[molten oasis]

My favorite, RILLA PAO INCIN SHIFU LANDO BOLT

[true niche]

core too core

[molten oasis]

[patent marsh]

mega sceptile and hydrapple

now that I think about it

we don't have a real fairy/dragon besides mega altaria ye

[patent marsh]

idk what I'm cooking with this tbh

[molten oasis]

“A little bit more familiar” more like the copy paste team of the regional

[grizzled bronze]

damn ohkod

[molten oasis]

Oooooof

[grizzled bronze]

great turn

[patent marsh]

oof

[molten oasis]

Yikes

[grizzled bronze]

god damn

[molten oasis]

Carlos getting every call correct

[grizzled bronze]

bulky mfer

[molten oasis]

INCIN SURVIVED

[dapper crag]

is clangorus soul better for kommo-o than belly drum?

[grizzled bronze]

full power eruption in sun too

belly drum is meh

[molten oasis]

Body press is its best set rn

Maybe we don’t just sack our garticuno first turn

[grizzled bronze]

idk why helping hand tbh

[molten oasis]

That’s better for Mark

[patent marsh]

he targetted chien pao with the air slash ye?

[molten oasis]

Why not eforce

[patent marsh]

both dark

[molten oasis]

Oh well, incin nvm lol

No that’s rapid strike

[patent marsh]

dark immune to psychic

oh you mean this game

[molten oasis]

Yea

It’s dead

[grizzled bronze]

saved

[molten oasis]

Lucky

[patent marsh]

chien pao kills it again rip

nvm missed lmao

[grizzled bronze]

no it missed

[timber falcon]

why not earth power

[molten oasis]

I’m very very surprised he hasn’t been clicking follow me

[grizzled bronze]

same honestly

[patent marsh]

I did then wanted to try with protect

[molten oasis]

That was balsy considering how poorly the last match went

Carlos really getting every turn correct wow

[grizzled bronze]

too good

[patent marsh]

this game looked cooked again

the indeedee not contributing that great both games really sadge

[molten oasis]

Don’t try to tr

[timber falcon]

GARTICUNO?

[patent marsh]

ye

[grizzled bronze]

yeah

[molten oasis]

I don’t see any good reason to preserve that garticuno

[grizzled bronze]

holy

[timber falcon]

ive spent so long tryna find a way to make him viable

[molten oasis]

It’s joever

OH MAYBE NOT

[grizzled bronze]

so many misses 😭

[timber falcon]

isnt garticuno just bad

[molten oasis]

It’s okay

[grizzled bronze]

decent

[timber falcon]

in this meta

[grizzled bronze]

just decent

[patent marsh]

it's meh

[grizzled bronze]

not "bad"

[molten oasis]

If it day 2ed it’s at least decent

[grizzled bronze]

bolt lfggg

[molten oasis]

it’s over

[patent marsh]

pain

for a trick room team

[molten oasis]

Terrible games for Mark

[grizzled bronze]

idk why he didn't follow me...

[patent marsh]

this entire team is pretty frail

[timber falcon]

oh expanding force articuno

[molten oasis]

Doesn’t matter he never wins here

Well

[timber falcon]

wait lmao liligany torkaol?

[timber falcon]

reg E shenanigans

[grizzled bronze]

hmm

[molten oasis]

He needs to play out of his absolute mind

[timber falcon]

how tr get set

[patent marsh]

he just did

[timber falcon]

ohhhhhhh they sleepin

so this winnable?

[molten oasis]

No

[patent marsh]

no

[timber falcon]

oh

[molten oasis]

But he’s playing to his outs

[patent marsh]

really hard

like very very hard

[molten oasis]

Pfff not even a 2hko

[timber falcon]

yeah its overpon

[grizzled bronze]

garticunover

[molten oasis]

Fr

I don’t think this game is possible rilla just wipes

[patent marsh]

oh zamn all 3 turns sleep

[timber falcon]

hey at least he didnt go down without a fight

[grizzled bronze]

rilla just cleans here yeah

[molten oasis]

Yea he’s playing to his outs

[patent marsh]

yea grassy glide on 2 low hp mons

[molten oasis]

If bolt went down he has a chance

[timber falcon]

and thats that

[molten oasis]

Like a turn before cuz you don’t get terrain back

[grizzled bronze]

style points

sleepy cat

[timber falcon]

pftttt chien pao taking a power nap

[patent marsh]

this guy got max sleep on both targets

[molten oasis]

Ggs

[patent marsh]

that's some crazy luck wasted

[molten oasis]

We will not be seeing gart in single elims

[grizzled bronze]

great sweep

[tough idol]

Did Sheer Cold make top cut

[molten oasis]

Idk yet

[timber falcon]

https://pokepast.es/b5ea79894954e3b7 oh yeah btw for this team, i need a mon that can resist/tank an urshifus CC, any idea?

[molten oasis]

I think Swiss is only 13 rounds but I don’t quite remember

[molten oasis]

Torn

Flutter

[timber falcon]

torn is interesting

slow and fast

[grizzled bronze]

so a tailroom team

gotta remember them speed tiers

[timber falcon]

yk what ill try torn out

im thinking no speed evs

id prefer it to hit harder here

also @molten oasis ive finished my harc team with the recommended achievements https://pokepast.es/42cd0bd632429ce9

[tough idol]

Bugger I'm in the far East TZ again. Need 2 more wins to Master Ball

[molten oasis]

Very nice

I can’t imagine just being like “yea guys I am the Pokémon Go world champion”

Like, wow you smashed your phone screen that’s craaaazy

(I bet it’s more in depth than that I just like teasing the Pokémon go players)

[tough idol]

I just got bored doing a Tapu raid nvm PoGo comp

[molten oasis]

Lol

[patent marsh]

I still have no clue how PoGo comp works tbh :tink:

just looks like indiscriminate tapping

[grizzled bronze]

i heard it's timing of the shield and shit

[tough idol]

No immunities either

[grizzled bronze]

switching out to a better mon

idk it looks like it's just button mashing to me

[tough idol]

I wonder if Wolfe sits and stares at his Worlds trophy sometimes and thinks if he'll ever get another

[molten oasis]

I feel like most people that have ever been world champ have

[grizzled bronze]

cant wait for worlds 2024

[tough idol]

Me too, World's ends, then it's 4 weeks until I fly to Greece for 10 days

No doubt I'll have to pack a Switch for some random thing happening while I'm away lol

[grizzled bronze]

i wish i can fly to hawaii to watch it in person but i dont think i can at that moment

[tough idol]

Hotel prices be inflated too

[grizzled bronze]

very true

worlds 2023 was nice because it was in my country and i can just go there

[tough idol]

Right 2 wins is all I need

[grizzled bronze]

hope you make it to mb

[dapper crag]

- [Steel/Rock]

Immune

Poison

Resists (0.25x)

Flying, Normal

Resists (0.5x)

Bug, Dragon, Fairy, Ice, Psychic, Rock

Neutral damage

Dark, Electric, Fire, Ghost, Grass, Steel, Stellar

Weak (2x)

Water

Weak (4x)

Fighting, Ground

Type Notes

Steel-types cannot be Poisoned.
Steel- and Rock-types take no damage from Sandstorm.
Rock-types have their Special Defense increased by 50% in a Sandstorm.

SableyeBot version 4.25.1

Steel, Rock

Hits for 0.5x

Steel

Hits for 1x

Dark, Dragon, Electric, Fighting, Ghost, Grass, Ground, Normal, Poison, Psychic, Stellar, Water

Hits for 2x

Bug, Fairy, Fire, Flying, Ice, Rock

SableyeBot version 4.25.1

[tough idol]

Fuck lol

[molten oasis]

That’s sick

Aurelian is demolishing wow

[tough idol]

Amd back to 2 wins needed lol 😆 F Wellspring

[molten oasis]

Lol

[tough idol]

Woot Sheer Cold at 5

[dapper crag]

- [Grass/Rock]

Resists (0.5x)

Electric, Normal

Neutral damage

Dark, Dragon, Fairy, Fire, Flying, Ghost, Grass, Ground, Poison, Psychic, Rock, Stellar, Water

Weak (2x)

Bug, Fighting, Ice, Steel

Type Notes

Grass-types are immune to Powder-based Moves.
Rock-types take no damage from Sandstorm.
Rock-types have their Special Defense increased by 50% in a Sandstorm.

SableyeBot version 4.25.1

- [Grass/Flying]

Immune

Ground

Resists (0.25x)

Grass

Resists (0.5x)

Fighting, Water

Neutral damage

Bug, Dark, Dragon, Electric, Fairy, Ghost, Normal, Psychic, Steel, Stellar

Weak (2x)

Fire, Flying, Poison, Rock

Weak (4x)

Ice

Type Notes

Grass-types are immune to Powder-based Moves.

SableyeBot version 4.25.1

[karmic temple]

Me crawling out of bed hungover to watch victor play

[tough idol]

Time to quit for the day. Tera Dark Sneasler just beat me into the ground

[molten oasis]

Ooof

[dapper crag]

- [Fairy/Dragon]

Immune

Dragon

Resists (0.5x)

Bug, Dark, Electric, Fighting, Fire, Grass, Water

Neutral damage

Flying, Ghost, Ground, Normal, Psychic, Rock, Stellar

Weak (2x)

Fairy, Ice, Poison, Steel

SableyeBot version 4.25.1

[mighty stump]

Man the 3DS animation for Brave Bird was far more impactful

[patent marsh]

tbh a lot of animations look worse in SV than it was in SwSh too

like dragon ascent don't look as cool in SV

[mighty stump]

Forget Dragon Ascent

Wicked Blow

[patent marsh]

ah ye

surging strikes too

[mighty stump]

https://tenor.com/view/urshifu-rapid-strike-surging-strike-pokemon-tower-of-waters-gif-23032736

[patent marsh]

behemoth bash/blade also the same

[next stump]

1 point away from worlds LOL

[tough idol]

A9 showdown in Top 8

Oh wait they Fd the teams

LOL

[mighty stump]

Pog

IS THAT TOP 30 NA PLAYER DILLON MLBD

[tough idol]

I did not quit

Aurelian on a tear

[mighty stump]

Tyo in top 4 crazy

[bold geode]

TYO

[molten oasis]

Pog

[bold geode]

No way they said Mi KAI El

It's MICHAEL YOU FUCKS

[mighty stump]

Monke

Your american is showing

[bold geode]

YEAH
MURICA

[mighty stump]

...No

[bold geode]

Also going undefeated so far is fucking wild

[mighty stump]

I mean

At the moment

I think MDB is the best trainer out there

[charred saddle]

hm sucker punch mind game lol

[summer shore]

🥺

Hi @mighty stump @bold geode

[bold geode]

@summer shore

[summer shore]

Guess who hit a new low in life muahahahaha

[mighty stump]

What happened

[summer shore]

Long long story

[mighty stump]

You say that like I don't have time to listen lol

[summer shore]

Lets just say thursday night -> friday morning i couldnt sleep

So i walked to uni at 1:30am

[summer shore]

I gotta sleep soon thats why

[molten oasis]

They really hate fluttermane lmao

Both want it gone so fast

Huge

HUGE

[grizzled bronze]

burn mattered so hard

[mighty stump]

Damn

Thats crazy

[bold geode]

WHAT

[molten oasis]

Damn

It’s joever

[grizzled bronze]

wait there's a way

[bold geode]

Oh God

[grizzled bronze]

yup ggs

[molten oasis]

Espeed needs to 2hko

op nvm lmao

[bold geode]

Oh man

[molten oasis]

I forgot about terrain

[grizzled bronze]

grassy terrain offset it yeah

[molten oasis]

Smart

[bold geode]

MDB got fuckin wiped

[grizzled bronze]

still undefeated damn

[bold geode]

How

[grizzled bronze]

pro gamer

[molten oasis]

We might see an undefeated player win today

[craggy dagger]

owh?

[grizzled bronze]

would be pretty cool honestly

[molten oasis]

Yea, more interesting team than the literal copy paste team we saw so fucking much today

And yesterday

(Pao shifu rilla incin bolt lando)

[grizzled bronze]

honestly it is what it is

[molten oasis]

Ik, still boring

[grizzled bronze]

true

[craggy dagger]

did sylveon make it up there?

[molten oasis]

Nope

A9 articuno did tho

[craggy dagger]

interesting-

[grizzled bronze]

did anyone's stream just end

[molten oasis]

I’m still good

[grizzled bronze]

let me refresh, probably a me issue

yup we back

[patent marsh]

ayooo articuno finals

that's crazy

[craggy dagger]

WHAAAAA

[mighty stump]

Tyo really stuck to his guns for so many regulations

[bold geode]

Wait it's finals now?

[mighty stump]

Am I about to have a regional champion in our server

@bold geode tyo in finals

[molten oasis]

Wait, did we skip a match

[bold geode]

DAYUM

[molten oasis]

Oh they just played it lmao

[craggy dagger]

[mighty stump]

Also have I sent you that Pikachu team yet

https://pokepast.es/b3ad95487922eca3

[craggy dagger]

yes you have tofu

[grizzled bronze]

finals time

[craggy dagger]

i went to play some games with it yesterday

[grizzled bronze]

rough miss

[patent marsh]

the articuno dream is still alive

[grizzled bronze]

and harcanine i guess

[patent marsh]

true

another h arcanine regional win would be cool too

[grizzled bronze]

yup

[patent marsh]

Beeg switch

[grizzled bronze]

honestly think nikhil should win this

ggs

[molten oasis]

A9 TAKE A REGIONAL

[mighty stump]

WE HAVE A REGIONAL CHAMPION IN OUR SERVER well mine

SNOW'S STRONGEST SOLDIER

That's wild

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-excited-explode-happy-spongebob-squarepants-gif-12971731

[bold geode]

LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOO

[mighty stump]

Ok anyways

[charred saddle]

[mighty stump]

Who's ready to go play Snow for like

the rest of the month on ladder

[molten oasis]

Me

[mighty stump]

Lmao

Cause like

[molten oasis]

A9 is back

[mighty stump]

I hope you all like the RNGfests I won't be participating

[grizzled bronze]

blizzard spam go crazy

[mighty stump]

See Drago

[molten oasis]

nah I’m probably not playing lmao

[mighty stump]

Just git gud enough and u too can win with yor favourites

[molten oasis]

I can’t compete in regionals

But yea true

Also I think I’m pretty good at the game, I got that gapdos team to work really well

next up is a9 if I get around to it

[grizzled bronze]

wished people experimented more, cause there were a lot of boring six, but people want to play safe i guess

[mighty stump]

Tyo has been playing Snow since like

2 Regulations ago

[charred saddle]

abomasnow

[grizzled bronze]

snow master

[molten oasis]

Snow master indeed

Maybe sticking with an archetype is a good idea

[mighty stump]

But also this is also still a proper time to remind people that you don't need to fix what ain't broken

Good stuff is still good
Sticking with a comfort team is also key

[molten oasis]

Yea

Bringing the 6 is totally fair

It’s good for a reason

[mighty stump]

It's like saying Chess is boring cause there are never any new pieces

[molten oasis]

Fair point

[grizzled bronze]

that's what i was saying

[molten oasis]

I don’t think I’m changing teams btw

So don’t expect snow from me, but like, awesome to see one of my favorites take a regional

[grizzled bronze]

very cool indeed

[mighty stump]

Crazy

[charred saddle]

gila

[molten oasis]

You CAN win with your favorites

[mighty stump]

Tyo already has a repuation for hitting rank 1 god knows how many times

Regional Champion on top of that with a unique team

[charred saddle]

specs cuno is so goddamn cool

ill be waiting for cybettron featuring it in his yt

[molten oasis]

Very very cool team

[charred saddle]

and then we play the team for a shit ton of time

[grizzled bronze]

yup guaranteed showcase in aaron's channel

[molten oasis]

A9 meta for a while

[grizzled bronze]

then we see a lot of snow in ladder

[molten oasis]

I’m a bit more excited to run kyurem white now

[grizzled bronze]

a9 kyurem white core?

interesting

[patent marsh]

kyurem not legal yet no?

[grizzled bronze]

probably when restricted happens

[mighty stump]

Ah

Ahaha

I realise now

My eyes have been on the corrrect area to loook out for

It's a japanese team from Suica

[charred saddle]

the cuno snow?

[mighty stump]

Suica teams in general + Suica themselves have topped ladder or events

And someone tweeted that in reference to tyo winning

[timber falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/blastoise-water-rain-rain-dance-happy-gif-26838576

W

[dull ibex]

what are we talking about?

[molten oasis]

A9 and articuno won a regional

[dull ibex]

oh neat

[bold geode]

Yeah our boy Tyo won a fuckin regionals

With A9 Harc and Articuno

[dull ibex]

I love that my opinion coming in to comp went from the best pokemon ever going from mega ray to zacian back to incineroar lmao

[bold geode]

Bro it came back

[dull ibex]

what came back

[bold geode]

Utrecht day 2

[dull ibex]

I need to find a team to play 🤔

[bold geode]

Incineroar back on top of usage

Actually it's weird to see Flutter that far back in the fucking graphic

[dull ibex]

oh well yeah is it surprising incin overtook everything?

[bold geode]

Well Flutter and other stuff gave it contention

But now it's back

[dull ibex]

EH no it didnt

[craggy dagger]

evenly split rapid/single this time huh

[bold geode]

Brother

[dull ibex]

I thought it would have some, but using it, it doesnt really have competition at all lmao

[bold geode]

Yes it does lmao

[dull ibex]

I do think its interesting flutter is still dominant

[bold geode]

Defiant mons fuck with it

[dull ibex]

ehhhhhh

[bold geode]

Ok wtf is this

[craggy dagger]

flutter is flutter-
you’re not getting anything better than that fast special attacker (as of rn)

[dull ibex]

its such a good pokemon

[dull ibex]

a sentence?

[bold geode]

Well no shit Sherlock

[molten oasis]

May I offer

[dull ibex]

you could use your words and explain your issue with my opinion

[gentle crag]

drayagedrago (ID 465881273454559252)

[Message](#rental_teams message) in #rental_teams
Name: Thunderstruck
Code: TY3CBN
Format: VGC Regulation F
PokeBin/Paste:https://pokebin.com/d1e28c2fd8428a22 (paste in notes)
Notes: Not 1, but 2 mons I've had my eye on for a good amount of this regulation, here I have a team introducing Galarian Zapdos and Primarina. This is a balance team that's centered around these 2, to set up with Prima and redirect attacks from Gapdos to dish out damage. Here's a quick rundown of the team:
Zeus (Gapdos): The main focus point of the team, Gapdos is the main fast sweeper on the team. Hits hard with brave bird, thunderous kick helps to kill bulkier pokemon with Ogerpon, stomping tantrum is good for coverage and also boosts damage if it's fake'd out, and U-turn for pivoting. Great into Incin, Ogerpon, Rilla, etc.
Poseidon (Primarina): Initially didn't look at it, but after it was suggested I tried it out and it stuck quite well. Great calm mind sweeper with strong spread damage with hyper voice and hard hitting moonblast. Good into Chi yu, Pao, both Shifus, etc.
Calypso (Fluttermane): As much as I hate this mon, Flutter is here to be Flutter. Great spread damage, hard hitting moonblast and shadow ball, and power gem for coverage into Incin/Hearthflame. Good into Bolt, Pao, etc.
Poncho (Ogerpon-H): Fulfilling a similar role to Wellspring, Ogerpon is here to redirect attacks and spore for the team. It also has an offensive mode with a +1 in attack when clicking tera. Good into Rilla, Flutter, Pao, Amoonguss, etc.
Vesta (Incineroar): First of many teams this guy will be on, Incin is the role compression this team needs. Fake out, Intimidate, Parting shot, Knock off, it has it all. Goggles allows it to stand infront of amoonguss, and water allows it to face Pao and Shifu. Good into Rilla, Amoonguss, Flutter, etc.
Stormclaw (Raging Bolt: By far my favorite new mon, Bolt is here to be a tank, hit hard, and lower opposing damage with snarl. Good into TornShifu, wellspring, etc.
Feel free to dm me for questions, I hope you enjoy!

Command triggered by drayagedrago. Message from · Feb 26, 2024, 7:53 AM

[molten oasis]

Jesus

[dull ibex]

hmmm potentially

[dapper crag]

i changed my display name and profile picture

now im a new person

[dull ibex]

I was thinking about checking victory road tbh

[molten oasis]

That’s fair

[dull ibex]

https://pokepast.es/3675d96625ad0b36 neat

im guessing this is the HO team at m

[molten oasis]

Ok realistically the defiant mons that actually mess with incin are like, gapdos and ape

Gambit doesn’t really like fighting incin

[dull ibex]

I think incin has some stuff that can help punish it, but from a usage standpoint its pretty clearly still the best

im not on the ban it train anymore like I used to be tbh

[molten oasis]

I’m personally of the opinion wellspring is the best

[dull ibex]

I think ogerpon is the most interesting busted pokemon we have ever gotten

[molten oasis]

It really rewards smart play

[dull ibex]

also ngl take my opinions with a grain of salt lmao

[molten oasis]

I think giving it follow me is, dumb

[dull ibex]

im becoming really outdated the past few formats

[molten oasis]

But it makes for a very interesting Mon

[bold geode]

Ok
First off, Flutter is Flutter, it's gonna dominate although the 6 that I mentioned last night before going to bed didn't have it, but Snow might fuck with it a bit now
2. Stuff is there to mess with Incineroar, being Defiant mons, Covert Cloak, Ghost tera, Clear Amulet, there's factors that help against it
That being said, like it's not the fact I'm saying "oh Incineroar being up top is surprising, more like it's odd that Flutter went from 1st to fucking 6th, which is the lowest it's probably been

[molten oasis]

Yk red hasn’t been playing right

[dull ibex]

sure flutter is going to be dominant

I was just saying its neat to see a mon retain 1st place in usage for so long

I could have clarified that if you dont become slightly hostile immediately lmao, incin has competition in a game sense

it doesnt have a whole lot of competition as best pokemon in the game (Note my lack of the word none here)

[charred saddle]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2024regf-2072535164-oizyziyykumu9s0cp92tujj5alb1qh7pw

[dull ibex]

im not living up to the vgc boy name 😔

[molten oasis]

Fr

[dull ibex]

honestly been kind of good for mental not grinding away anymore

[bold geode]

It wasn't brought with hostility
I'm sorry

[mighty stump]

Monke's just Monke Red

I think I've clarified this

It's chill

[dull ibex]

fair im tired and probably misread

its fine really

IM GONNA DO THE FUNNY LEAD

make it rain, tailwind ez

[bold geode]

No it's fine
Clearly I can't talk without being viewed as a shitter or an asshole
I've done it to myself it's fine

[molten oasis]

Dude, chill

[dull ibex]

I dont think im quite a casual pokemon player, but I think im a casual vgc player at this point

[molten oasis]

Don’t beat yourself up about it

[mighty stump]

Misinterpretations happen all the time Monke

[dull ibex]

I even dropped it 😭

tofu what have you been using recently?

[mighty stump]

...Do you really want to know

[molten oasis]

Lmao

[mighty stump]

https://pokepast.es/1a435b19eb918d5b
https://pokepast.es/86ebf387a00c3d46

Cause I haven't really had much time to play cause of interning but i've just been doing this for fun

[dull ibex]

Pikachu?

[mighty stump]

Pokemon Anniversary content, mostly

[molten oasis]

I need to uh, finish all the games I haven’t finished

[dull ibex]

Ah gotcha

[molten oasis]

So I can go play vgc more

[mighty stump]

Real team wise

[dull ibex]

I'd offer a ladder stream because gonna claim back to mastetball

[charred saddle]

how much is max hp final gambit annihilape?

[dull ibex]

See if I still got it

[mighty stump]

https://pokepast.es/0484d643dd117169
https://pokepast.es/47aa51e98263ffa5

[molten oasis]

Like, 196? I don’t remember

[mighty stump]

217

[dull ibex]

If I can still make it to masterball with a positive win rate I'm not garbage

Pult 👀

[charred saddle]

thanks tofu

[gentle crag]

abused1 has given 1 Gen Rep to woodtofu

[dull ibex]

Stupid question is pshot blocked by pterrain

[charred saddle]

made my amoonguss tank the gambit

lived with 4 hp

[molten oasis]

No

[mighty stump]

Only if its prio

[dull ibex]

Gotcha

[dull ibex]

My stupid ass thought incin had prankster for a second

[molten oasis]

[dull ibex]

Two hours of sleep goes crazy

[molten oasis]

Prankster incin would be funny

[dull ibex]

Magic bounce is so funny

[molten oasis]

Oh yea, parting shot forces them to switch huh

[dapper crag]

Move: Sludge Bomb

Has a 30% chance to poison the target.

Type

Poison

Category

Special

Power

90

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

​

Artillery

Does not affect Bulletproof Pokémon.

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

SableyeBot version 4.25.1

Move: Sludge Wave

Has a 10% chance to poison the target.

Type

Poison

Category

Special

Power

95

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

SableyeBot version 4.25.1

[craggy dagger]

[dapper crag]

Ability: Tera Shell

If this Pokemon is a Terapagos at full HP, the effectiveness of attacks against it is changed to 0.5 unless this Pokemon is immune to the move. Multi-hit moves retain the same effectiveness throughout the attack.

SableyeBot version 4.25.1

Ability: Multiscale

If this Pokemon is at full HP, damage taken from attacks is halved.

SableyeBot version 4.25.1

[craggy dagger]

wait-
multi hit moves will be resisted through the entirety-

[charred saddle]

basically multiscale but more op

[craggy dagger]

shadow shield but more op yeah

or prism armor i think-

[dapper crag]

Ability: Prism Armor

This Pokemon receives 3/4 damage from supereffective attacks.

SableyeBot version 4.25.1

[craggy dagger]

nvm-

[dapper crag]

Ability: Shadow Shield

If this Pokemon is at full HP, damage taken from attacks is halved.

SableyeBot version 4.25.1

wait

[craggy dagger]

mmm?

[dapper crag]

how did i go from meowscarada to kommo-o

aint there needin to be an evolution

[potent garden]

Hello, I just started in the competitive world, im novice. I saw a team that I liked at Portland VGC 2024. I would like to use it but I'm not sure what would be good openers. Somebody could help me? I have the image of the team.

[true niche]

very centralised meta

[willow vault]

Can we see the image of the team?

[willow vault]

Ogerpon allows for you to lead with any of team especially due to the fact it has follow me, often flutter mane or one of the extreme speed users can be good partners, chien pao also makes a great partner for dragonite or Entei. I’m not the best player here but that’s what I would lead, obviously it’s subject to the team your facing

[fallow pumice]

I need help on defeating Drayton can anyone help

[potent garden]

Copied, thank you very much

[gentle crag]

harckal has given 1 Gen Rep to crephace

[timber falcon]

u cant beat an npc?

[fallow pumice]

Im new to this pls

[timber falcon]

just get a lvl 100 if ur struggling

[fallow pumice]

How

[timber falcon]

whats ur best pokemon rn

level wise

[fallow pumice]

Can u help me

87,85,81

[timber falcon]

which pokemon are they

[fallow pumice]

Lucario garchomp dragonite and skeledirge

[grizzled bronze]

just use strong stab moves, abuse x items and heals

[fallow pumice]

Cant loss so many times im at 0 coins

[grizzled bronze]

overlevel them if you have extra candies

[timber falcon]

should i just give u a lvl sweep mon?

[fallow pumice]

Pls

[grizzled bronze]

give him specs flutter mane fr

go to trading channels tho

[fallow pumice]

Ok

[tough idol]

Leveled EQ Flygon should sweep Drayton

If you've passed the trial

[fallow pumice]

Where do i find one i need to get past him

[grizzled bronze]

savannah im pretty sure

[fallow pumice]

Ok i look for one now

[tough idol]

Savannah Biome should net you a 60+, then you've gotta put the effort in to get it above 80

[fallow pumice]

Ok

[timber falcon]

pretty sure drayton destroys flygon

from flygon experience

[fallow pumice]

Oh what i catch then

[grizzled bronze]

specs sun boosted max special attack tera fairy dazzling gleam flutter mane carried me tbh

is it overkill? definitely

[timber falcon]

yep

orrrr

that one lvl 100 iron bundle

[fallow pumice]

How i get one of these flutter manes @grizzled bronze

[grizzled bronze]

scarlet exclusive

area zero

[cold ivy]

guys

[fallow pumice]

I play scarlet

[cold ivy]

what would be the best moveset for ceruledge?

[grizzled bronze]

singles or doubles

[tough idol]

Not using it (doubles)

[timber falcon]

pretty much

[grizzled bronze]

very true honestly

[cold ivy]

doubles

[grizzled bronze]

god

[cold ivy]

oop

nobody would be expecting it though so

[fallow pumice]

Ok im try and find flutter mane

[tough idol]

But easily countered @cold ivy @cold ivy

[cold ivy]

ah

[tough idol]

Sorry double ping

[cold ivy]

i just lvled up my ceruledge to lvl 100 😭

[grizzled bronze]

bitter blade, poltergeist, shadow sneak, protect
tera grass flash fire
camulet
jolly max max

standard

[cold ivy]

huh

okay i got the moves

whats camulet tho

[grizzled bronze]

but the best option is not running it :3

[tough idol]

Clear Amulet

[grizzled bronze]

clear amulet, prevents stat drops

[cold ivy]

ohh

should i get armarouge instead?

[tough idol]

If you can slot into your team

Do you have a paste or bin link?

[cold ivy]

bin link whats that

[timber falcon]

no

[tough idol]

Pokebin is a newer version of pokepaste

[cold ivy]

oh

[timber falcon]

dont use armourouge

[grizzled bronze]

if you wanna run psyspam

[cold ivy]

i dont have items on any of my pokemon yet, i wanna try and use my team though it prob wont work
ceruledge
h goodra
iron leaves
annihilape
ogerpon
venusaur

[timber falcon]

no speed control isnt a good sign

[cold ivy]

speed control is tailwijd right

[timber falcon]

or tr

[cold ivy]

tr?

[timber falcon]

or moves that lower speed

or priority

[cold ivy]

alr

[timber falcon]

trick room

[grizzled bronze]

not gonna lie, that team has like no good synergy whatsoever..

[cold ivy]

oh

yeah i figured

[timber falcon]

yeah its lookin odd

[tough idol]

Also which Ogerpon

[cold ivy]

could i dm pictures of my boxes of my pokemon and u could help choose the best pokemon for a team and then i can work on lvling them up and or getting the itmes?

i hate asking for help but i need to if i wanna start this up

[grizzled bronze]

you can send images here

im pretty sure you have the perms

[cold ivy]

o-

i do

i have so many scattered boxes 😭 🙏

[grizzled bronze]

raging bolt caught my eye immediately

[craggy dagger]

hm

[grizzled bronze]

there's incin

[cold ivy]

okay

[grizzled bronze]

just train the meta mons you have imo

[cold ivy]

what meta should i go for?

[gentle crag]

tonyc5609 (ID 308034941927817218)

[Message](#competitive_discussion message) in #competitive_discussion
very centralised meta

Command triggered by stargazer_nova. Message from · Mar 3, 2024, 7:40 PM

[craggy dagger]

this 0-0

[grizzled bronze]

just look at usage stats rn and train the mons that are higher up, dont do evs yet tho as it varies team to team

[cold ivy]

ok

[grizzled bronze]

you can probably do well with the top 6 😭

[cold ivy]

i could do incin, bolt, ogerpon water, the two clouds, and chien pao?

[craggy dagger]

that works-

[grizzled bronze]

some mons have set evs so you can do them

like chien pao lmao

[cold ivy]

bruh i have none of them in pogo 😭 🙏

so the clouds aint gonna work

[grizzled bronze]

pla?

[craggy dagger]

swsh also works