Nintendo 64

[latent dagger]

[weary palm]

I'm sold.

[slow silo]

Not Bubble Universe?

[uneven moth]

Hi folks - I'm trying to play the recently released mod, WCW nWo Revenge Redux. I have patched the ROM and it plays fine on a software emulator, but on the latest official MiSTer N64 core, the characters all have the default red texture for shorts, vests etc as if the accessories couldn't be loaded, as well as missing textures on the match setup screens. Are there settings I would need to change to disable any ROM size restrictions? The official patch post mentioned that it now works with an Everdrive since they removed that restriction in the latest firmware, so that's really all I have to go on as a possibility. I'm currently just using the default setup for the core and would love to hear any suggestions everyone may have. Many thanks and I can post screenshots if that's of any help!

[zinc dew]

Does that mod work on real hardware?

[mossy vector]

Let's ask an easier question. What is the file size of that rom after patching?

[zinc dew]

Ohhhhhh, file size can matter?

[uneven moth]

I'll get the actual hardware setup tonight and test using the everdrive and see - thanks for that suggestion Robby. Haggarman - it's currently 65,769KB (It essentially just adds intro music to every character).

[zinc dew]

Yah sorry, I hate asking that question because not everyone can test that, but it’s an important step in knowing if the rom hack is compatible with MiSTer cores or was written for software emulators.

Like I can’t test that myself lol, no flash carts!

[uneven moth]

Totally makes sense - I had just seen everdrive compatible and assumed it worked, but thinking that still doesn't mean it will work on actual hardware.

maybe only works on analogue 3d say for example with an everdrive. Eitherway, I'll know tonight and will report back.

[mellow raft]

Robby is everydrive compatible

[weary palm]

The core can load roms slightly larger than 64MiB (65536kiB), if I remember correctly.

[mint shadow]

#1096015979055697940 message

[weary palm]

Thanks. I think I've experienced issues with smaller ROMs than that, though. Could be other reasons for that, of course.

[weak hill]

ufffff!!!

[onyx minnow]

pfft Lynx is the goat!

Also Lynx one over Lynx 2, better quality and buttons etc 🙂

[weary palm]

No way. Lynx 2 everyday.

[woven olive]

Is the core still using the n64 database txt?

[chilly ember]

As far as I know

[woven olive]

Gonna test something with that WCW Revenge hack since the readme says expansion pack required

[woven olive]

yeah bummer. no luck tweaking core system settings to fix it. something else going on with it.

or you know... it doesn't work on real hardware despite the readme claiming it does

[chilly ember]

I'll see if I can find where I packed up my n64 and everdrive later to see if it boots if no one else beats me to it

[weary palm]

Are you sure you patched it correctly?

[uneven moth]

I found my N64 and the Everdrive...just looking for the retrotink now 😂

[dim kiln]

you need the scaler to see if it boots or?

[uneven moth]

No way to connect to my TV without it to see a picture. No composite or scart

[weary palm]

@uneven moth no component either? My 5 year old TV lacks analog inputs too, except RF.

[uneven moth]

Yeah nothing like that unfortunately - I'll find the tink - just up in the attic somewhere 😊

[uneven moth]

Ok, got a chance to test it on the N64 tonight with the everdrive (latest firmware), and can report the mod works fine there.

[upper pivot]

Does it work on A3D?

[weak hill]

love you robert @wanton sun

making possible port cores to the m64, ufff

[placid ferry]

Is your original WCW Revenge rom good?

I patched the game the day this hack was released and it works perfectly fine on MiSTer, no graphical glitches and all the music is there. I think you did something wrong.

[uneven moth]

I mean the same patched ROM plays fine on hardware and software emulators. If it works on yours, maybe I should trash the mister configs incase I manually added something at some point - thanks!

The original rom plays fine also on mister

[weary palm]

Lynx!

[weary palm]

I actually put my bet on Lynx. Robert "joked" about it. 😅

[wanton sun]

The full glory of 160x102 pixels scaled to 4k

[weary palm]

Can't wait

[floral pawn]

I can't wait to play an unplayable version of Ninja Gaiden III in its whole splendor.

[weary palm]

Huh. I had no idea Ninja Gaiden 3 was ported to the Lynx.

But you're talking about the port of the arcade game right? 😂

[manic thicket]

No the NES version is on there. It's....something

[weary palm]

It's sooo good.

[weary palm]

Turns out I was right. Hot diggity-dawg!

[chilly ember]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-a-wizard-hagrid-afirmation-magic-magical-gif-16533730

[weary palm]

170k logic elements.

https://tenor.com/view/the-wizard-1989-the-wizard-california-jimmy-woods-jimmy-woods-california-gif-16565957734114134580

[fierce girder]

https://x.com/RockerGameMod/status/2060405780025614384

RockerGaming (@RockerGameMod)

Mark your calendars 📅📅📅

N64 Renaissance restock dropping on JUNE 5TH at Noon CST!!

We’re bringing back v4 sticks, bowls, and gates — including the hand dyed funtastic 🌈colored gates by @drumstix576!

The Tao V4 adjustable steel sticks return so you can dial in your

X · May 29, 2026, 4:59 PM

[zinc dew]

Why isn’t there a link to their store in the post!

[fierce girder]

Good question, https://shop.rockergaming.com/

This cheap ain’t shit. $165 for a full replacement stick kit

I’m sorry, $164.64, cheeky

[zinc dew]

Oh my hog

God

yeah not for me but thanks for sharing that post!

The price is a pretty good reference tho

[slow silo]

And IIRC that's not a drop-in replacement right? You still need to take apart your N64's joystick and install these parts in it, they don't even replace the gears, just the bowl and stick.

[zinc dew]

People are nuts lol

[weary palm]

I can buy 3-4 nintendo 64s for that price.

[tepid shuttle]

i can buy 6-7

[solar slate]

200 euro for a N64 controller/Nostalgia is a little crazy given that the top N64 games are native playable on other platforms with much better Control options.

[thorn flax]

would you like
a. a fully working mister fpga setup
b. a metal toothpick

[simple current]

I'll take the toothpick thank you very much

a misterfpga isn't keeping my teeth clean y'know...

[magic girder]

A fully metal MiSTer?

[topaz otter]

what does this mean

is this a good fpga?

[weary palm]

I think Robert should answer that. 😅

[broken creek]

Most people can get by with just a steel bowl.

Highly recommended. The whole RoboCop stick assembly isn’t necessary unless you’re a speed runner or super fan.

[topaz otter]

or unless you play mario party on the N64 and grind N64 sticks into powder on a regular basis

[weary palm]

I don't recommend a steel bowl.

[slow silo]

I just used a hall effect drop-in replacement. It's not perfect but it's good enough, especially since it's under $20. The steel thing would be nice but I am not paying nearly the price of an entire mister for a small metal stick and bowl that I then have to do dissessembly and reassembly of the whole stick asembly myself

It dosen't even include the gears, which still remain plastic

[zinc dew]

If you aren’t using original N64 controllers are you even playing N64???

[mossy vector]

Yes. Especially little brothers with the bad madcatz controller like yourself.

[magic girder]

If this discord has taught me anything, it’s that people will go to insane lengths to avoid playing games as they were originally intended 😭

Save states, turbo modes, stinky rom hacks, now different controllers 😭

Whatever happened to playing games as Miyamoto intended? 😭

[chilly ember]

I make sure to use a N64 controller for the N64 core but I also use it on other cores like 3DO and what not

[simple current]

i only play with a wiimote

[mossy vector]

Robby holds the player 2 controller in 64 Mario and pretends to play while just watching.

[chilly ember]

Dusty

[zinc dew]

In this Discord, we stan MadCatz!

[zinc dew]

DA GOAT!!!!

[zinc dew]

just a normal conversation about the N64 between friends:

[tepid shuttle]

where can i get the my dick version of xeno crisis

[topaz otter]

steel bowl run

[weary palm]

I have two of those. They're pretty good! By ASCII.

[magic girder]

Why are you so mean and aggressive?

[solar slate]

look at that beast man! It looks like a Batman Weapon. Deadly.

[misty rose]

And someone paid for the injection mold of that thing

[hushed nova]

Wu tang is for the children

[digital remnant]

https://youtu.be/RMROAr8VOxg

[onyx minnow]

hmm hopefully the release is better, i was hoping m64 would have a few tricks considering how much earlier analogue got the jump on them

like anything around 4k crt filters would be nice, but after i recenlty got a rt4k CE and that thing has a decent sized FPGA it seems my hopes of m64 being such an all in one might of been a bit too much wishing

[magic girder]

Terrible thumbnail

A3D has those overclocking modes

And I think they’re on my default, right?

Starts by saying “how accurate is it really? Let’s compare it to the analogue 3D”

Not off to a good start

[onyx minnow]

it does say the m64 passes a lot more tests

[jolly turret]

This is literally the first thing I thought about. Did he disable the A3D overclocking modes?

[magic girder]

Ah, it gets better…

(He does compare to original hardware, but doesn’t talk about which mode used on A3D, at least as far as I am in the video)

That modretro controller looks beautiful though

A3D takes an eternity to boot…

[digital remnant]

Slower than real hardware. Comparing both clone consoles to real hardware is pretty valid tbh

Also overclocking is not enabled by default for non retail games

Which custom community test roms definitely arent

[magic girder]

I got there with my later comment 🙂

It ended up being a fine review - just had my shields up at first cos YouTube

[digital remnant]

https://modretro.com/pages/m64-compatibility

[magic girder]

I guess all of these issues also apply to the MiSTer core?

[digital remnant]

Does it really grab the vine???🤣 🤣

[magic girder]

Actually there seem to be some new ones that I haven’t seen reported on the MiSTer core - so maybe it has some unique issues

[chilly ember]

Isn't that just goldeneye working normally?

[zinc dew]

another paid Analogue 3D stooge

Won’t even give him a click, that thumbnail tells me he got paid off and isn’t trustworthy in the slightest.

[magic girder]

It’s not that bad in the end, but I started out skeptical too

[plush summit]

I think modretro's aim for accuracy went completely out the window when they realized shit takes awhile 😄

[zinc dew]

I like the compatibility list, they really are front and center about what you should expect. That kind of transparency is rare and should be applauded.

[green epoch]

Are we talking about their drones or their consoles here?

https://tenor.com/Wkic.gif

[zinc dew]

LMAO

[plush summit]

DAMNIT, I WAS GOING TO LEAD WITH A DRONE JOKE

[zinc dew]

dunking on ModRetro for their war shit will never not be funny lmao

[green epoch]

smoke em if you got em

[lean spruce]

Looking forward to getting one. Not decided on color yet

[zinc dew]

I feel bad for the employees there who just want to make a good retro console, but they knew who they were getting in bed with

[plush summit]

but yes, its pretty telling that if they cant get an N64 out the door, forget about military weapons

[zinc dew]

those are wholly unrelated tho

[green epoch]

I am really on the fence here. I want to buy one to support roberts work, but after the anduril chromatic....man I dunno

it's like owning nazi flatware

[plush summit]

not really, the military is already rejecting their weapons being unreliable

[zinc dew]

Oh wow lmao

[magic girder]

I’d buy a droneboy if I didn’t already have a pocket which I barely use

[zinc dew]

Can I real talk

[magic girder]

No

[green epoch]

Always, duder

[zinc dew]

I don’t think you buying one will produce any meaningful contribution to his weapons of war manufacturing.

[green epoch]

No, you're totally right

it will not

[plush summit]

I mean, if you support their products, it makes their image better, and image is everything

[magic girder]

Maybe if the world had more N64 it would be a more peaceful place

[green epoch]

We have talked about this but I think if you want to live your life only purchasing responsibly sourced electronics you are betting off walking into the sea

[zinc dew]

This is a rich man’s side little hobby that probably makes him happy to see do well.

If you don’t like that then I get it.

And it’s not like there’s no other options available either

[green epoch]

Im very curious about their framework stuff

like, if this is a viable platform to people to build on

[zinc dew]

I don’t expect it myself

[magic girder]

PS1 core wen

[plush summit]

I think modretro's main goal is military washing over passion project, gaming works amazingly well

[green epoch]

I still dont know if I would trust it (because, as we have seen with openfpga, all it takes is the company getting bored with it), but it will be interesting to see

[zinc dew]

I don’t follow, apologies

[magic girder]

Isn’t it a legally distinct company? How many people would actually know?

tbh I’d never heard of any of the drone stuff until I came onto this discord

[zinc dew]

I beleive Analogue was the best shot at producing interest in a consumer product with MiSTer cores ported and after about a year no one gave a shit anymore.

[plush summit]

palmer luckey is openly out there promoting both companies, they're tied to the hip, if gaming's cool, then ideally, people will look the other way for the weapons

[zinc dew]

Ohhhhhh, yeah you might be completely right

[magic girder]

I’d never heard of him until I came onto this discord… 😅

Maybe he’s a bigger deal in the USA or I live in a cave

[green epoch]

https://tenor.com/bkVlb.gif

[magic girder]

But I suspect I’m not the only person who doesn’t know this stuff

[zinc dew]

I won’t be buying one because I have a MiSTer.

[plush summit]

he's building up his status in the US like crazy now, he's directly tied to the current admin and all that stuff, yeah Im going to move on now, I mostly care about the core than the console

[magic girder]

I’m 99% sure that the M64 will end up being the most accurate way to play outside of original hardware, with a bit more time

[wanton sun]

James review is not wrong, there are still points to be done until release and we are working on it.
The performance will improve for sure until then. I mean, you know me. Is there any of my cores that has no turbo or overclock mode?
We will get there, but base work comes first and must finish before the fun part.

[lean spruce]

I´d take accurate to real hardware performance over overclock modes

[spare meadow]

In Robert we trust

[remote hatch]

I'm not a big fan of N64 but I will buy M64 :)))

[wanton sun]

Yes, that is why it's currently slower.
Let me explain: on mister we run the RAM at (up to) double bandwidth with random latency.
On M64 it's original bandwidth and original latency.
However, the higher RAM bandwidth was useful to hide that some things have shortcuts.
E.g. RSP currently cannot execute 2 instructions in the same cycle as N64 can. This is for both Mister and M64 and is seen in the -38% in James Video.
This is one of the major points still to be implemented.

[magic girder]

Nobody here doubts you

[lean spruce]

Thanks for the insight. And is very exciting to hear, from a preservation perspective!

[magic girder]

Fingers crossed some more goodies make their way back to the MiSTer, limitations notwithstanding

[wanton sun]

Some already made it back, e.g. the MTM fix

For the accuracy part, I cannot do that due to completly different memory system.
For RSP dual instruction it might work, I have to see

[magic girder]

No pressure at all. What we have already is amazing

[lean spruce]

we need MiSTer 2 for that

[spare meadow]

The M64 is a day-one purchase for me.

[lean spruce]

my only concern with the M64 is which color to choose

[odd walrus]

I'm watching mad little pixel's video right now. These extra custom CRT filters are looking very nice!

[lean spruce]

I really like the whole interface alot

[odd walrus]

I hope they reveal the fifth color way if they haven't already that I heard about on the reddit AMA

[magic girder]

Translucent purple. There are no other options, sorry

[upper pivot]

@wanton sun why does it say Goldeneye has major slowdowns? Same reason that you described above regarding the RSP?

[wanton sun]

To be honest: I asked for these to not be included, because it's most likely gone until first users will have it in hand, but they wanted to be fully transparent about the current state.

[remote hatch]

Clear case ❤️

[wanton sun]

It's a different kind of development if you have fixed release dates and people review the first product instead of improving over time.
Thankfully no one reviewed my first n64 core build against real hardware 😅

[lean spruce]

@remote hatch I´m leaning to that too, but lately I´ve been eyeing the hulk version

[magic girder]

Those are funny ways of saying purple

[lean spruce]

The eye nightmare of Mario you mean 😂

[magic girder]

I like the splash of colour with the pink thing (that I guess controls the cartridge cover flaps?)

[zinc dew]

I think it’s a double edged sword to do that before release. Because it’s true it reflects “current state” but most people will see that and assume it’ll reflect “shipping state”.

And even though I have full confidence in you, it’s not something you can guarantee with legally binding certainty that will be fixed before people have it in their hands.

On top of that, some prominent YouTubers already have debug consoles and if you aren’t transparent about that it will be called out. And if you aren’t transparent about that, what else aren’t you transparent about?

so I think that was the right call, even if there will be some potentially perceived negativity as a byproduct but I assume their PR team is anticipating and ready to address that if it becomes an issue

[lean spruce]

sometimes it takes time to get rid of old truths. Hopefully people will not keep saying M64 runs slow in a years time

[zinc dew]

I mean, if you see someone repeating a lie then call them out. That’s about all anyone can do. Most of the time it’s an honest mistake on their part.

[lean spruce]

I mean how long did people say MiSTer didnt work with TLB games, long after it was implemented

[wanton sun]

But it still doesn't run Libdragon 🙁

[lean spruce]

thats for homebrew right?

[wanton sun]

No, it was a insider joke, sorry.

[tepid shuttle]

there's a guy in this server who claims he uses arch but i've never seen him prove it

[lean spruce]

so I´m confused, when will you be able to purchase it? It says ships on 28th of July but is that when you can place the order?

[green epoch]

yes

[magic girder]

Why N64 emulation is still a mess in 2026 😅

[green epoch]

shipping that day

[weary palm]

You're getting a purple one and I'm getting a green one, then we swap shell parts with each other to get that ultimate Joker look. Eller hur? 🦇🃏

[lean spruce]

jag är på hehe

[weary palm]

I wonder what color will be the most popular one.

[digital remnant]

he made portal64, junkrunner64 and lots of other stuff, i will trust a n64 dev every day a 1000 times more than the usual retro youtube reviewers who dont have a real clue about the n64

[lean spruce]

I mean Robert has already confirmed his findings and given an explanation. James seems genuine and balanced

[weary palm]

Me too. The thumbnail was very clickbaity though. How mean.

[lean spruce]

he is building up for the vindicating video 😁

[wanton sun]

The video is better than the thumbnail. Only real complains are the performance(fair) and the Reset(which is already implemented, but not available yet)

[digital remnant]

the thumbnail is perfect for getting youtube views and reactions, so mission accomplished 😄

[weary palm]

Reset hype!

[lean spruce]

he probably isnt mean. He reminds me of my father who would say the food tastes like wet dishing gloves to the host and think that is not mean because that is the truth (honest to god it happened). Some people are like that

[wanton sun]

Oh, and the new version of the systemtest failing (also on A3D). I haven't looked at the changes yet, but @quick arch has already posted it.

oh no, reverse endian is coming to systemtest....lets hope it stays out of Libdragon. No one uses that, really.

[weary palm]

I'm joking. I don't find it mean, but it does set the wrong tone for the video. The video is a fair comparison.

[quaint abyss]

PSX on N64 will soon 😄

for a more obscure thing, the RDP tests that do some more exotic things seem to fail too.
some even freeze up the console it seems.
not that those would cause any issues in games or homebrew though

[digital remnant]

because of the wince port

[cerulean elk]

lol some of us know what we are talking about

[digital remnant]

no worries, you are esoteric, not usual!

[wanton sun]

they are inactive by default?
Freezing ones need to be fixed for sure

[cerulean elk]

Haha. Well no review unit for me so you can watch the less esoteric 🤣

[weary palm]

Rubber gloves ain't that bad with some sweet baby rays on it.

[lean spruce]

I know but I´ve gotten used to being embarressed on my fathers behalf many times.

[weary palm]

Bye-bye logic elements. 🤭

[digital remnant]

look at all the other videos except James, they definitly dont know what they are talking about haha

[cerulean elk]

Haha oh I’m sure. I make it a point not to watch things. I go in blind. But after retail release nobody cares about videos sadly

[quick arch]

There is auto build now

on the action in github

[weary palm]

I heard they will make the controller moddable and offer different joystick springs and gates. That's cool. But why can't it come with the flattened octagon that everyone yaps about by default? 😅

[quaint abyss]

i meant those that i made a while ago here (think i posted it before): https://github.com/HailToDodongo/snapper64
which is specifically obscure stuff nobody does, besides maybe hidden bits.
someone in the server could test it, see screenshot.
ares fails a bunch of those too, A3D only fails RDP Test-Mode - Span Tri.

i find it weird RDP Rect Tri - Slope hangs, since while weirdly shaped, it is a safe triangle to draw.
the other two freezes enable RDP test-mode, which it may not like

[zinc dew]

Oh that’s a dev? Ok that’s a huge help, thank you.

[weary palm]

He's a vry smert pearson.

[zinc dew]

I suffer from YouTuber clickbait reflex syndrome, please understand

[magic girder]

If you watched the video you’d have known that, Roberto

[zinc dew]

I said I didn’t watch it!!

[magic girder]

And now you know you should!

[zinc dew]

I also suffer from ignorant comment syndrome, please understand

[magic girder]

I agree that the thumbnail really turned me off too

[cerulean elk]

At least nobody today will call me a Nazi or a baby killer for having an M64 video 🤣

[weary palm]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-sigh-whatever-not-surprised-gif-22918448

[magic girder]

Plz do a droneboy review on M64 release day

[weary palm]

Dronestrike 64.

They should make that game happen.

[cerulean elk]

Do I have to review it? Lol

“It’s an FPGA N64….”

[magic girder]

I meant just anything to rile up the angry folk

[magic girder]

M64 review playing only war games

[zinc dew]

LMAO

[weary palm]

I love Groundhog Day. One of my favorite movies, i swear!

[wanton sun]

unfortunatly it's very hard to debug these, as i cannot get there easily, unlike systemtest where i can just simulate only a single test.

[zinc dew]

also for anyone who’s surprised at me saying dumb shit, boy do I have news for you.

[quaint abyss]

you can select individual tests, and even see a diff-image

but yeah, RDP is a bit harder to test isolated

[weary palm]

@zinc dew it's strange that they don't know you better by now.

[quaint abyss]

but again, besides some bragging rights in accuracy, i think most of them will not matter in practice at all 😄

[wanton sun]

it's a stupid FPGA thing: debugging on hardware is horrible and simulation is super slow.
So unless I have savestates, i can only debug the first 200ms or so

[zinc dew]

it’s an unspoken community rule where I’m allowed to say dumb shit with the strict understanding that if I am wrong the community will tell me and I’ll gladly accept it

It’s win/win!!!

I get to mouth off like an idiot and someone gets to correct someone else on the internet!!

N64 > PS1

[magic girder]

But… but… you’re @lament escarp’s senpai!

[weary palm]

https://tenor.com/view/abraxas-lotr-lord-of-the-rings-power-rohan-king-gif-14050384

[magic girder]

In some ways I could agree

I do think certain aspects of the N64’s graphics have held up better

But the PS1 smashes it in terms of its catalogue

[weary palm]

Good thing we don't have to choose

[magic girder]

Why, does the M64 play PS1 games?

[weary palm]

I think it will, eventually. 😅 But that's not what I meant.

[cerulean elk]

We need an FPGA recomp and port console lol; a PC that is

[magic girder]

I have no desire to play any recomps tbh

MiSTer is really all I need for 5th gen and earlier

[lean spruce]

Dusklight is great

[zinc dew]

Where’s Video Game Recompterica when you need him

[remote hatch]

I think every system has a great selection of games

[magic girder]

Why do people try so hard to butcher the games by making them run at 90000 fps and 8K?

[cerulean elk]

Playing a WIP DK64 recomp haha

[cerulean elk]

Another one 1/10 people will absolutely have a stroke about

[magic girder]

I played Star Wars episode 1 racer on the switch 2 the other day, blitzed through it super quickly… then tried it on the N64. It’s so much harder on the N64

Not sure if it’s the framerate, but it’s a completely different game on the N64

[upper pivot]

@cerulean elk did you get an early M64 to review?

[dim kiln]

did you try it on Dreamcast?

[magic girder]

Not for a long time

[cerulean elk]

I did not

Never heard anything from ModRetro. That being said I don’t ask for things. People contact me or they don’t

[lament escarp]

The chromatic is a really good device. I hope they make a gba and that the n64 controller will be good.

[magic girder]

A GBA would be awesome

I’m sure there’s a developer somewhere who knows how to make an FPGA core…

[cerulean elk]

I think there’s a vibe running through early M64 reviews and I don’t fit it 🤣

[weary palm]

Misses the vine 90% of the time, all the time.

[cerulean elk]

Haha you know I checked and yes he missed the vine in the recomp

But it’s like 20% done and nothing works right

[magic girder]

“Two idiots…”
“A vibe… and I don’t fit it”

U sure bro?

[weary palm]

I don't know if I want it to work, because the only reason he doesn't miss is lag.

[cerulean elk]

There is only one idiot here

[weary palm]

I'm an idiot too

[cerulean elk]

@zinc dew come over. We can be two idiots for the video

You flex. I’ll put on hipster glasses and a hat

[zinc dew]

Finally, a role I was born for

[weary palm]

https://tenor.com/view/idiocracy-test-genius-iq-gif-14792434

[magic girder]

I’d love for Robby to do a guest spot on a VGE video

I bet it would get a shit load of views

[cerulean elk]

Oh I know how to fit a girthy object into a hole. Go ask your mother

[cerulean elk]

He just has to come to Chicago

[magic girder]

That poor man

[cerulean elk]

Better than me going to Texas

[digital remnant]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22PTX7WFAac

[zinc dew]

I thought the blue block was a MiSTer for a split second lolol

[digital remnant]

it does not vine! almost same behaviour as ares a couple years back

[weary palm]

Lol

[digital remnant]

2:40

[weary palm]

The vine is such a meme

[serene mason]

Wow.

That's a lot slower.

[cerulean elk]

I dunno who decided early tests on non-final code was a good idea when there is already an FPGA console on the market with a years lead time was a good idea but…it was not a good idea!

[weary palm]

The Mario head seems a bit laggy. But I'm not worried.

[cerulean elk]

That would be like @zinc dew letting us test Borderlands 5; Train Simulation Boogaloo in its current state

[serene mason]

Did anyone do the Beetle Adventure Racing test?

[magic girder]

It’s not worth paying attention to these tests until release date imo. Let Robert cook

[jolly turret]

I actually sent them an email requesting for a review unit to be provided to you and Modretro confirmed that they passed it forward to their correct contact in their company.

[magic girder]

(I mean, it’s probably good to have a “worst case scenario” in mind if you want to pre-order - but I suspect it will quickly be outdated)

[cerulean elk]

Who knows. Maybe you’ve gotta ask 🤷🏻‍♂️ I just never do

[serene mason]

Why would they release review units before they were ready?

I imagine some of these videos are gonna run around the scene pretty fast.

Especially that Mario 64 slowdown.

[jolly turret]

At the company I work at I'm dealing with artist/public relations. I usually just reach out to cool people and ask if they are interested in collaborating for content. We also get plenty of inquires from great content creators, so it goes both ways for us. We're however very open and easy going, and I try to make myself very accessible for people to reach out to. The experience I have with other companies in our industry is that they are a lot harder to reach out to.

In any case, I'll keep nagging them about a review unit for you, I just don't think it's going to be effective.

[serene mason]

Best not to do that.

Sometimes it looks like the creator is making fake accounts and sending fabricated 'fan' e-mails to score free hardware.

[cerulean elk]

Yeah I just can’t be bothered asking for shit. If someone wants me to look at something they find me

[magic girder]

I’ll take VGE’s free hardware if people want to give stuff away

[weary perch]

hey thanks for finding that bizarre BAR! behavior where perf degrades the more Rumble Paks are inserted. crazy cool thing to catch! none of the BAR! speedrunners knew about that lol

[magic girder]

A 4k scaler would do nicely

[cerulean elk]

lol I don’t need any more fucking scalers

[serene mason]

It's a strange one.

[magic girder]

Exactly. They should send them me instead

[serene mason]

I had never heard of anyone mention it before.

@cerulean elk that Beetle Adventure thing might be fun to explore on your show!

I think you've got more knowledge about how the hardware works.

[cerulean elk]

Too. Many. Scalers

[cerulean elk]

Maybe when retail is available as yeah no review hardware

[serene mason]

Oh I just mean in general.

Analogue 3D updated their hardware to match the real deal.

[cerulean elk]

Possibly! See how much I am in the mood that week to get yelled at for talking about it haha

[serene mason]

But nobody has shown if off yet.

It's a tightrope walk when releasing early access stuff. Especially if there are glitches. If the coverage early on hits big fixing it later on doesn't nearly capture the same awareness.

Same thing happened with some early Analogue hardware.

[magic girder]

Analogue fix their hardware?

[serene mason]

The Analogue 3D is better now than when it launched/reviewed.

[magic girder]

I think that’s somewhat unique among their products

[plush summit]

I think it makes sense, its their most ambitious console like ever

[cerulean elk]

“Nobody reads the retraction” haha

[serene mason]

I'm not sure about that, plenty of their stuff got updates and fixed things.

[serene mason]

Ain't that the sad truth.

[plush summit]

apparently the 3D save states are corrupting cart saves, but that isnt really surprising

[weary palm]

I think you need to give one to your brother @weary palm

He doesn't have all that sweet sweet youtube dough.

[cerulean elk]

Haha it’s all prototype review stuff. At least for the morph 2K

[weary palm]

I'll take one of your Lambos too, if you don't mind.

[serene mason]

Haven't heard about that. Has anyone shown off any examples?

[cerulean elk]

Haha I make less than half of people think and more than the other half think I should make

[weary palm]

I don't think you make much at all, sadly. 😅

[plush summit]

This is DK64 I think? fortunately, if you have a clean save state, you can recover it

[weary palm]

I wish you did.

Becuz you're Esooooooterica.

[cerulean elk]

Haha I paid my mortgage with revenue last month. Haha good enough for me

[serene mason]

I watch a video of yours and my partner in the next room goes "Esooooooooooooooooooooooooooterica"

It's a theme.

[cerulean elk]

Only the true fans know the esoterica is longer or shorter depending on how personally stoked I am on the topic lol

And now I’ve got my wife doing it in her first proper vid for the channel

[magic girder]

Mrs Esoterica is on a video?!

[serene mason]

Yeah that sounds like it's gonna cause some issues.

[plush summit]

Save states in general are pretty chaotic, kinda why I would use them for roms rather than carts

[simple current]

one day you're gonna say esoterica normally in your intro and everyone is going to be bamboozled

[cerulean elk]

She was on the 69K sub video. Even in the thumbnail

And that’s her next vid

[serene mason]

If the video isn't of you drunk in a bathtub it don't work.

[cerulean elk]

Bonus vids. Watch her do triple my views haha. I hope she does!

[cerulean elk]

I’ve shot that video. It’s in case I die. My wife knows to run it to tell everyone I’m dead. This is not a joke.

[serene mason]

[magic girder]

I hadn’t noticed. Cool that she’s finally made it to the channel!

[cerulean elk]

I have a weird sense of humor so I shot s joking death announcement and recreated the scene from Arthur

🤣

[plush summit]

About to make a Messoterica 😏

[cerulean elk]

Lol oh I’m sure the comments will be fucked

But they already are and I think my wife’s “the fuck do I care” attitude runs even deeper than mine lol

[plush summit]

Retro game audience is so weird, the more of an actual life you have, the more hated you are 😂

[jolly turret]

Wow, the M64 looks incredibly close to the N64 image, especially when comparing the blur. The CRT filter looks amazing also!

[cerulean elk]

And the hate runs DEEP currently

[plush summit]

god forbid I have friends and other hobbies

[cerulean elk]

Last weeks greatest hit lol

They didn’t even listen accurately. It’s my father IN LAW lolol

And he lived. Eat it!

[jolly turret]

Yeah, got to have some thick skin when making yourself present publicly. There's quite some questionable beings out there.

[plush summit]

I thought wrestling fans were bad

[cerulean elk]

Rasslin. It’s rasslin

[plush summit]

brother, some wrestling fans legit tried to abduct wrestlers

[cerulean elk]

No skin off my ass. Fodder for the next “best and worst comments of the year” vid. They are contributors now lol

[plush summit]

either by unmarked van or breaking into their houses with rope

[magic girder]

What the fuck?!

[cerulean elk]

If I get abducted please bring high life and Malort. And snacks

[magic girder]

All because you “say bad games are good”

[cerulean elk]

You will just return me. I’ll be exhausting. Asking to go to the bar and go get KBBQ and insisting it’s not late and we should go to a 4am

Then at 4am I say it’s time for a third shiftee

[serene mason]

That's about right.

[weary palm]

Reading a bunch of YouTube comments on M64 review videos has left me slightly depressed.

[cerulean elk]

Time for the bar!

[serene mason]

I got a threat once from someone who accused me of ignoring them at a packed convention.

[weary palm]

But... It's monday and I have nothing but drain cleaner at home.

[serene mason]

I had absolutely no idea who they were and I think they were brushed off by someone that just happened to look like me.

[cerulean elk]

I can only imagine. It’s wild times out there. I get emails with my home address. They found it from the fact I said out loud we bought a house. Property records in cook county are public. That being said I don’t think any mall ninjas are coming any time soon lol

[weary palm]

Will you pay, big brother?

[serene mason]

Yikes.

[cerulean elk]

It’s Chicago. A stray bullet is really my most likely demise

[tepid shuttle]

don't worry. i won't let that happen

[blazing knot]

People like that are all bark and no bite. They want a reaction out of you but won’t leave their couch to do it

[cerulean elk]

Unless…it’s you!!

[tepid shuttle]

it's always the ones you don't expect

[cerulean elk]

I see how the way my corgi looks at me now that she’s on a diet. I know how I die

[weary palm]

This is what mental illness looks like ladies++ and gentlemen++.

[serene mason]

The most recent thing for me was someone tried to hijack my phone.

[cerulean elk]

Oof

[serene mason]

If you get a phone call and your phone lights up to change your password?

Shut your phone off.

[cerulean elk]

Yeah I have everything I can yubikey’d to prevent that kind of thing

Where I can at least

[serene mason]

That's the cost of the job I guess? 🤣

[cerulean elk]

We don’t get paid enough lol

[serene mason]

I hear Linus Tech Tips gets it real bad.

[weary palm]

"You like bad games so I want to see your family suffer!" Riiiiight...

[serene mason]

That's the secret @weary palm

Each game has at least one fan.

Or a fandom.

Even if it's terrible.

And when you throw a light into their corner of the world?

That's the unholy seal you rupture.

[digital remnant]

what. lol!

[serene mason]

One sec.

[digital remnant]

almost perfect now tbh

[serene mason]

Go to 29:24

https://youtu.be/Bx3NLt_kBto?si=g6jL31Ccv5__CdGD&t=1764

[weary palm]

True. Like yourself. I've heard you're quite the Soulja boy console connoisseur.

[serene mason]

You bet I am.

[digital remnant]

lol, i love it! even better than the DK64 vine. way better.

[digital remnant]

was that fixed with firmware 1.2.3?

[weary palm]

@serene mason

[cerulean elk]

It’s always “nice” to know it’s everyone sadly haha

[serene mason]

Yeah it was fixed in a later frimware.

[serene mason]

Jesus is that supposed to be me?

[weary palm]

Who knows? Looks kinda like you?

A little bit.

[serene mason]

Billions of dollars spent on AI and this is the best it can do:

[weary palm]

Lol

[serene mason]

What a god damn waste of time.

[weary palm]

I know. I hate it too.

There. I fixed it with a real video.

[serene mason]

Beautiful. Just as Nintendo intended.

[weary palm]

Nintended usage

[odd walrus]

Hmm I'm thinking about selling my A3D since the M64 is going to be cheaper but I'm a little hesitant

They'll basically have the same features by the time the M64 gets save states

And it has better CRT filters and I like that you can customize them and that they'll be selling an analog video adapter

[weary palm]

Does the M64 really have better filters?

[odd walrus]

It has horizontal bloom which I don't think A3D has and you can fully customize the look of the filters

https://youtu.be/oNn0hTl9Bd8?si=26TQNun1hcJTNf5D

Go to 5:36 where he covers the filters

[weary palm]

I never use scanlines as it wasn't something I noticed when playing games back in the day. I guess the TVs I played on were kinda soft. Also, PAL, so higher line density, smaller gaps.

[mossy vector]

I never wanted scanlines. they were just there. kind of. I wouldn't sit 2 feet from the screen.

Nobody simulates velocity scan modulation, where the scanline shrinks and expands based on brightness.

[weary palm]

You mean a thicker beam when it's brighter? There are filters for MiSTer that try to imitate that.

[mossy vector]

Oh no, it's more visually crisis inducing than that. Vertical lines no longer line up.

the B gets obliterated.

[upper pivot]

Why sell? Get both!

[tepid shuttle]

VSM has never looked good on any tube. glad it's been forgotten

[weary palm]

Oh. I don't think I like that. 😂

Like what's with that "M"?

[tepid shuttle]

it's cosplaying as a space invader monster

[hushed nova]

did they ever get asked/answer if the scaler is separate from the core fpga or not?

[slow silo]

Pretty much this, I remember a meme image I used to see get posted a lot of a guy reading a book titled Ethical Consumption Under Capitalism, and all the pages are blank

[languid dune]

She has very good taste!

[slow silo]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-superman-batman-v-superman-do-you-bleed-bleed-gif-19089630

[wanton sun]

it is. Core -> Framebuffer(few lines in low latency) -> scaler -> video out

[winged garden]

https://youtu.be/RMROAr8VOxg?si=FKHeMTaTTm6IOj8p

[upper pivot]

This was already sent yesterday

[solid cypress]

Usually a thumbnail with the creator’s face on it is an instant skip for me, but James Lambert has walked the walk with Portal 64 so I’m interested to hear his opinions

[winged garden]

Didn't know

[serene mason]

See what you need to do is scream if you put your face in the thumbnail.

That's the trick.

That's like, instant YouTube gold.

[mossy vector]

Even better be old and wrinkly, and have the caption be "I'm dying". And then never address that in the video script. Not even the expected "I was dying to try this new system" so people will watch all the way to the end and be doubly disappointed.

[serene mason]

Doubly disappointed, that you're not dying.

Because that was the promise.

[serene mason]

Never promise something in a thumbnail and fail to deliver.

[blazing knot]

why does every yt thumbnail look like this now

[mental citrus]

Hahaha

[bitter fjord]

Does the MiSTer core has similar performance issues?

Nevermind I just saw your previous reply about accuracy differences with the MiSTer

I am considering getting the M64 but there's still no details about running alternative cores or a framework for development which is what I am interested in

[serene mason]

Paul Atreides over here about to tell me toilet water is actually the best water to drink in the house actually.

[digital remnant]

https://modretro.com/blogs/blog/fpga-development-deep-dive

[weak hill]

interesting!

[chilly ember]

Is it powerful enough for the NDS core?

[weary palm]

I wonder the same thing.

[blazing knot]

No you’ll need two M64s running in parallel

[weary palm]

The M128

[blazing knot]

Two screens = twice as many FPGAs

[onyx minnow]

needs double controlls too 🙂

[topaz otter]

this is my idea

but like dr. victor frankestein I was laughed at by the scientific community for it

[weary palm]

May I laugh at you too?

[topaz otter]

https://tenor.com/view/i-can-live-with-it-tommy-boy-fine-its-fine-car-radio-gif-12894270

[wanton sun]

Probably would run better than on mister, but not possible to reach 100% accuracy. You need insane amounts of internal memory for that.
The issue with the DS is mostly the VRAMs. If you cannot replicate their latency and bandwidth, there are two possibilities:

• get graphical glitches when rendering wasn't finished in time
• overclock the GPU/PPU to hide it
• stall the CPU -> slowdown
  Second options seems like it might be viable to have a good experience with it, but it would lack behind current best software emulation, so I'm not sure it's worth it.

[upper pivot]

But the DS has less than 1MB of VRAM, right? Couldn’t you just use a dedicated external SRAM chip to handle this? Or how much block ram does the M64 fpga have on it?

[bitter fjord]

if we experience latency issues, can't we design a "RAM Cart" by leveraging the cartridge I/O pins of the M64 to add an extra memory module?

[weary palm]

Here are the numbers for the Cyclone V SE found on the DE-10 nano. (With reservations for AI inaccuracies 😝)

[wanton sun]

about 900 KByte divided into 11 different rams, all with 33MHz/16bit/2 cycle latency.
So yes, external SRAM will work....if you have 11 of them.
Ok...ok...you can put some inside the FPGA and some outside, so maybe you only need 4.

[weary palm]

Put a "RAM cart" inside the cartridge slot.

[wanton sun]

This can give you....1

[chilly ember]

People were talking about connecting M64's together, so lets say we had 4?

[magic girder]

Just use 8 MiSTers in SLI mode. Problem solved

But I guess this means that an affordable board for a good DS experience is still a ways off

[chilly ember]

I don't think mister supports that many

M64 would only need half so

I do hope in the future we'll be eventually be able to have an NDS core on something from Robert even if it is from the drone company

[vapid hawk]

cant you just fit 900KB into bram?

or is bram actually too slow for this job

[wanton sun]

you can if you have enough. You typically need some FPGA about double the size of misters and there are other parts that require BRAM as well

This is actually by far the best and easiest solution. It's just that currently no platform is available that offers this to a larger crowd

[chilly ember]

Have there been discussions on future endeavors that might possibly bring this platform to the masses?

[wanton sun]

There have been plenty of discussions here in the last 6 years 😅

[chilly ember]

I mean with your current partners 😛

[wanton sun]

I know 🤣

Sorry, can't talk about anything upcoming. (and not about things not upcoming)

[chilly ember]

NDS confirmed

[simple current]

time extension get in on this

[compact depot]

Wait, did this core hit a wall even on the M64 hardware? 🤔

Why can’t hardware engineers be like the ones from MARS?

[wanton sun]

M64 FPGA size is made for N64. No point in making specialized hardware 50-100$ more expensive just for possibility of third party cores.
This is different from a platform that targets "everything" from the very start.

[weary palm]

Aw.

[weary palm]

I think it only has 900Kbit, not Kbyte.

[worn delta]

Hopefully when M64 can lose ROMs then the features that wouldn't fit on the core can be done on there, like full Gameboy mapper support for virtual transfer Pak 🙂

[vapid hawk]

i kind of just assumed the M64 must have a ton of bram compared to mister

[wanton sun]

m64 fpga is larger than what mister has anyway. 4k scaler takes a good chunk of space, but it has more.
My top prio for the space is savestates, but lets see.

[vapid hawk]

i like how the controller has an optional cable and it works on real n64s. thats a really nice touch

[weary palm]

Their premium $89.99 (!😳controller has built in controller Pak, right? I wonder how many "blocks" 😝

[weary palm]

Do you use a bigger AUxxp fpga for development?

And is this a full-time gig for you?

I get it if it's hushed. 😅

[wanton sun]

I still have my normal job, so no. But it's taking quite a bit of my time 😅

[weary palm]

Wow. You're quite the champ. I hope you still have some time for some peace and quiet. ❤️

[zinc dew]

I hope you leave time for Quest 64

[weary palm]

Lol. And family. In that order.

[wanton sun]

It's not like it would be much different from the years before

From that perspective, I should have never fell into the FPGA hole. Too late

[iron wren]

preach

[worn delta]

Brian isn't going anywhere, he can wait patiently

[zinc dew]

who’s Brian

[slow silo]

Sounds like an NDA on NDS

[iron wren]

Brian Deez Nuts GOTTEM

[zinc dew]

[bitter fjord]

how about we limit some cores to 1080p to allow for more FPGA space? Especially if using external scalers

[wanton sun]

sure you can do that. Also with mister today.

[onyx minnow]

or have a m64 pro edition with 2 FPGA, with the second one doing retrotink 4k CRT emu

[magic girder]

That’s quite some stamina you must have to sit in front of a computer for so many hours. After I finish my job I can’t stand to sit at a computer most days

My advice to anyone: If programming is your hobby, never become a professional programmer - it will kill your enthusiasm to write code 😅

[wanton sun]

I can move my desk up so I don't have to sit 😅

[magic girder]

This is where I’m going wrong 😅

[iron wren]

https://tenor.com/view/wake-up-robot-creepy-gif-7411486299698814094

[weary palm]

It hasn't!

[magic girder]

I’m glad that’s not the case for you 😅

[cyan dome]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX_nxOcDFgU