#Stunner's Notes
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if u have a quite fast pc u dont really need lxqt
Not quite fast ๐ , what about xfce?
I have 8gb ram
I3 4160
Intel graphic 4400
Desktop
Clock speed ? How to check it ?
in cinnamon start menu, type info
it should show a information window about your system which will have cpu clock speed
3.6ghz
that's pretty good. how are things feeling/ handling on ur install?
U mean on cinnamon ?
ya
Cinnamon and KDE have really great applets. they are little things that can run on the taskbar to show you stuff
There is some lag like when i open a program windows and when i minimize it
What do u mean ?
how long would you say? 1 second?
Yes we can say almost 1 s
But when i open the program furst time like for browser it takes time
yeah the browser or heavy applications take longer on first time open, no matter what operating system. (hard drives are slower than SSDs)
for minimize speed, u can go to Settings> Effects> n turn off minimize animations, or adjust the milliseconds for it.
Is it normal that on windows i download really fast and on linux there is limitation on download speed ?
Applets run on the taskbar to say monitor something. Desklets (Cinnamon only) run on the desktop and serve a similar function.
im not sure about it. could be time of day, or website.. if u want to monitor this, get the 'Network Upload and Download' speed applet from Cinnamon Settings> Applets> add more
It doesnt show the speed ๐ when i download from browser , the applet isnt working
Yes it doesnt work properly
u have to change the applet settings, right click it and change or select the wired interface
i also recommend it to display as bits per second not BYTES per second
becuz internet providers advertise their speeds in bits/s
Bcs there is certainly a problem with download speed , i downloaded from 2 sites i used to download from and i used always to get normal speed on windows but now it doesnt go more than 1mb /s ๐ a file with 400 mb i need to wait like more than half hour
well try with MX linux, n see if different
also try using Firefox.. idk if Brave does something funny in background that slows the d/l
What do u mean by selecting wired interface ?
well ur on ethernet right?
the wired connection
so pick that in the applet settings, and it will display after
the gear icon next to the applet
and make sure the applet has a check mark on the left side.
Yes i changed to bits
But didnt find wired for ethernet
show settings
One sec , i am trying on mx linux , on browser its the same
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I used to download with jdownloader , bcs on browser even on windows i has a problem with speed limited
hmm that's strange
some vpn thing?
idk what thing are between your keyboard/cpu/ and your internet service provider
i'll let u know if I find a good download manager for linux. but i g2g a while now.
ttyl
G2g, ttyl ๐ i dont understand
Maybe its a problem with linux bcs i tried another download manager , j downloader i used to download files with and it let me download with full speed on windows but on linux its not that good
Lol look at the top left and the black thing bottom right besides๐ an glitch , the program image normally there , dont know why it disappear from there and goes to top left
And for example firefox in taskbar sometimes doesnt work when i minimize it and want to reopen it
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I will take a look on it , on debian is there recovery stuff , like timeshift on mint ?
installable
@unborn plume i tried to go for xfce version but i saw that the link u showed me for iso is for hybrid iso and on download from the site i found dvd iso ? Is there a difference , ๐
bcs i installed it but had some problems like user not sudoers and when i tried a way from yt to make it sudoer i wanted to try sudo apt update but had an error of repository
Is it bcs i downloaded an iso from dvd and its better in hybrid mode ?
And xfce doesnt have even softwares ๐ it has just the synaptic
hybrid vs iso makes no difference in final product
u talking about the Debian official link for CD images or some other thing?
or about Spiral?
BTW This is how to make regular user have sudo prompt like in Mint/Ubuntu:
keep that file in a safe place for future reference.
The official from their site
But i used the dvd iso
I will see the pdf later , i used already a way with usermod i found on yt , i also used a one that can add a usermod with enroot and to add it on bottom besides root
But had the repository bookworm doesnt have release file
And according to yt , a way to solve it is to uncheck something in software and updates but that windows is missing on xfce
I solved it ๐ finally , found another way with terminal
yeh; read it
u could install gnome-software if you prefer that GUI software center as on Deb Cinnamon
@unborn plume is there a way like to make the system in a language and terminal in another language ? I tried the debian facile iso to see if download speed works but its mainly in french , but in terminal the answers of commands is in french , but its hard to look for errors when french isnt very global and need to translate each time to look for answers on google or yt
So i am wondering if i can make just terminal in english but i am afraid if system in french and terminal in english it will make problems and errors
you'd need to set the language VERY EARLY in the Debian Installer
unless u are just testing live.
otherwise check 'locales or region' in settings to switch language
So we cant work with terminal with different language separately ?
no
Thanks
@unborn plume , hi how are u
I saw that on my debian xfce , my download speed is capped
Like i cant get more than 1mb/s
In different websites
But when i tried another debian environment on live session my download speed for the same file and the same website was 9 to 10mb/s
I had that problem on cinnamon , then i tried the debian facile iso since the launching wasnt their problem but the debian bootloader itself , and now the same problem , and i tried the official xfce environment and i had like 10mb/s speed
But i remember that i tried before the debian i use now and i saw that it download with full speed , maybe after doing the installation it gets capped
@unborn plume but when i look for my internet speed like on sites like speedtest or fast com , i see that its normal like it reachs 93 mbps
which environment gave yu the best d/l speed?
I had just xfce on usb drive , so its that one that gave best dl speed but even my environment i am using now had also best downlozd speed when i tried it at first๐
what environment do u have now?
it's possible that non-persistent live linux environments feel or behave faster cuz they dont use HDD
perform in RAM
๐ but that speed is the same when i used to download on my windows , i used to download with that speed and when i turned to linux i had this problem , now i have xfce debian offical one but from a community that do some changes on adding some preinstalled programs to be a bit easy for new users of linux , i am trying it for 2 days after cinnamon
i was going to suggest to boot MX live in persistent mode, then open MX Package Installer, install lxqt desktop from there, and switch to it after from login screen (there's an icon at top)
or try Spiral Linux lxqt version
both are 100% Debian with better tweaks done.
U mean to download lxqt environment from it and then installing it on debian xfce that i have ?
Or just to change environment of lxqt
no just run it on MX
Of mx
So downlozd speed was mainly from my environment ?
i really dont know
I've run many diiffernt things over time and always have had constant ISP speed across all.
well i g2g. ttyl
i sleep
๐ sleep with coding language
On sporal linux , is it stable , since its new os , i think , and with new community so less people are trying it so less help and more errors that can be found since bigger community faster to find errors and to fix them
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d/l manager is peaking at 1 MB of file per second. That's 8 Mbps. Not great but not bad either!
bro it's Debian
just made better from what I hear.
Yes i know on site its 93mbps do it should be 9mb/s and its 1 mb/s ๐ not bad , the difference is 8 mb/s ,
And on downlozd manager its megabyte /s
i can see that, yes.
keep in mind that the source server that you're getting your file from, may NOT necessarily be able to go so fast? it's a possibility
especially if many ppl are downloading from it all at once.
no, look at the conversion picture I sent. 1MB/s shown on ur d/l manager IS equal to 8Mb/s (lowercase b for bits)
For me i have 100 mbps internet speed so its 10 mB /s for download and me i get just 1mB/s
And i know for the website sometimes there is some links that do a limitation if speed unless u downlozd from premium link to get full speed ,but i used to get full speed in windows and i got full speed for the same file and same website and even downloaded the same download manager on live session and i got full speed
ah I see your comparison.
well it can't be all linux distributions. Try some different ones. Even non-Debian ones.
And when i tried to download on my installed debian and saw that there is a limitation of speed i just restart the computer and tried with live session like difference less than 15 min
And saw that it download full speed
what do u mean the difference less than 15 minutes?
it was fifteen minutes faster with the live system?
Like i tried the same download link in same time almost ,not like i tried my debian in the morning and the live session at night , bcs its true there is sometimes period of time especially in the evening or at night when a lot of people using internet and stuff
are u saying in the live mode, it completed in less time (by an amount of 15 minutes less) than on the installed system?
Is there any other distro than linux mint and debian that are also good according to ur experience ๐ค
No when u said maybe there was period of time when internet speed was slower , this is why i told u that i tried to download the same file from live session and on installed debian in 15 min interval and i saw a difference in speed
And its true there is a difference of 15 min ๐ ofc downloading like 1 or 2gb with a speed of 8 mB/s and 1mB/s ,the download will end real faster in 8mB/s of intervalle of more than 15min
ofc
I will recheck on debian xfce official and see on live session and see download speed , and if its good , i will install it and see after installation if the speed is still good maybe after the installation something happened , i downloaded also spiral linux xfce on usb to try it after and maybe i will try ubuntu bcs perhaps the package for ethernet compatibility that it is installed is the one that cause the problรจme ๐ค
Thanks for help
yeah try Spiral and https://ubuntu-mate.org/features/
btw (by the way) ^ this means "I got to go. Talk to you later." @drowsy snow
๐ ahh ok
Ubuntu is differente than debian , there is a site for each environment ? I tried to enter unubtu site but ut doesnt show me its environments
Ubuntu MATE , Xubuntu, Kubuntu, Ubuntu Budgie, Ubuntu Unity, are ALL official flavours of ubuntu, just so you know.
but they're all community reworks of the base Ubuntu, thus different websites.
So mate is smoother than ubuntu official with xfce environment or it doesnt exist ?
yeah it's definitely faster running (MATE is a desktop environment similar in agility to xfce) plus it has an easy layout switcher built in to customize the desktop layout. see the article.
@unborn plume i installed spiral linux and will try it tomorrow , i saw that spiral linux is like the same as my version of debian with optimised programs that i had , but has some other programs too , and i liked how they added a program to install bootloader , i didnt need to install grub , while on all the debian environment i tried (cinnamon , xfce official , xfce from the community that add preinstalled programs ) all need to go to mx player to install grub
that's so darn weird that regular Debian doesnt install GRUB!!
insane, really
maybe they messed up their live ISO releases
But when i do sudo apt update , everything clear๐
๐ญ even on spiral linux the speed is capped
What i dont understand is that i tried after that spiral linux on luve session and dowload speed is with full speed
luve?
dont worry about the W: and I: messages too much. Just means Warning and Information
Live ๐
Ahh ok , i did sudo apt update after that and nothing appeared
remember, update command only refreshes the available LIST of software.
Upgrade command is what upgrades all of the softwares after getting the new list.
Yes , update then upgrade ๐
Hiุ fo unubtu mate system requirement there is recommanded is 4gb ram ๐
runs flawless for me. I have 4GB
and it doesnt even reach half.
well, I'm running 'bunt Mate 20 from a while back but it's good anyway
Ahh nce , ๐ when i saw this pic for a sec i remembered windows xp
yeah I themed it
The good old day
I used to never give a shit about how much ram and all , i open internet and open the windows i want wothout worrying and now on win10 i open just 3 windows and here i am with 5gb ram used , for me on windows i turn it on and its empty and already 2.7 used ๐
oh yeah, i know.
well I sort of know.. but I haven't used since Windows 7 and it was clean install, and not too bad
u can see in the pic what the usage is
and that's with browser open, page loaded
If windows 7 isnt used and isnt compatible with a lot of programs now i can gladely return to it , but saw that steam already stopped the compatibility with windows 7 on january 2024 and i am afraid sites like twitch and 1080p quality in videoa
Steam i could understand. Websites that stream videos, typically do fine on a fairly up to date web browser, but everything gets out of date after five years end-of-support
Yes on linux with chrome even with 4 or 5 pages it can go to 2 or 2.3 gb max
if they're heavy pages, then that's understandable
blame the Web for being heavy now
I am on windows and with just 2 pages open , one for yt and one twitch and its 4gb used
Yes some web browser use data a bit more than others too
I've only used Firefox 99% of the time for the last maybe 5 years
since I discovered it on MX 5 years ago
old Firefox was not so good, but since they released Quantum (version 61 i think) it was great
it's up to v 122 now
one update per month
U use firefox esr or the official version ?
Like esr i think official but gets less updates
I like the less updates thing
they will issue any critical security updates if needed, right away
I will try it , thanks , i tried ubuntu , iliked the design but i saw that debian xfce or even spiral is a bit lighter ๐ and the same problem with limited speed
I will try the download manager u are suggesting
have you tried our lord and savior Linux Mint. debian edition?
was it Ubuntu MATE?
I'm so puzzled by this speed of download weirdness
Yes from here
https://ubuntu-mate.org/download/amd64/jammy/
Ni , i tried linux mint amd debian but not the linux min debian edition
So the end of the story is debian 12's grub does not work on dell computers I had the same problem. Instead of fixing it I just booted back into fedora and installed fedora.
U can fix it by the way mentioned above by stunner_619 , i tried it each time and worked , just download mx linux and after installing debian u enter to bios again to mx linux and from boot repair on that os , u can install grub and enter to debian normally and its permenantly, or u can try spiral linux and it has grub installation in the installation of the system
Find it weird how such a stable distro has a broken grub.
we are all ๐
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Hi
hey how's it going with your computing experience?
Okay ๐ but always the same problem though , i am using dual boot with windows to download stuff from time to time ๐ , my brother is willing to buy a laptop , he found some computers and hesitating between two
As i searched i5 better than i3
But what if we have i5 10th generation and i3 11 th generation
yes quite a bit better over i3
So what processor is better
i'd go with the i5 even it's a bit older
Why ?
the i5 is made to handle a heavier load n graphics
So for newer in generation what can give to i3 , like in which way is better ?
u'll have to research that yourself
He has these suggestions , what do u think is the best one ?
the top one looks overall the best value
I7 4th generation
I7 10th generation
I3 11th generation
And i5 10th generation
only get the later generations if ur planning to put Windows 11 on it
he needs to use photoshop mainly and of course office stuff , and the problem since windows 10 ipdates are max 2025 so maybe he will install win 11 then ๐
either of the 10th gen ones should support W11.. see this list
So better to choose the higher brand like here i7 and according to budget and his will to install win 11 or not to choose the 10th generation
have to see the processor model exactly, and compare to that list ^
And for photoshop do tbey work fine without lag on any of the two generations?
for professional big work, should be fine either i5 n up
for simple edits, anything.
Ahh So on i3 even when its 11th generation isnt that good compared to i5 lower generation , is it all bcs i5 has more cores ?
no the cores are a different thing altogether
just i5 is made for more heavier workloads
with better graphics too
i'm using a first gen core i5 with an SSD for many years and it works totally great on Linux for what I need it for anyway
So higher brands is always better for heavier works
And what about generations , do they add more stuff ,like u said before that its better just if i want to install win 11 on it so if not there will be no difference between i7 4th and 10th generation on win 10?
not a huge difference on the last
And why when i do some versus sites i see that i3 10th is better than i7 4th ๐
Even some sites say i5 10th better than i7 4th
๐ now i am confused , i thought we always go for the brand ๐ค
I got it , like i5 10th generation is higher in generation than i7 4th but on windows 11 the comparision is reversed ๐ the i5 can be better than i7
The reversed comparision is what i didnt unserstand๐
Like one better than one on win 10 can be worst on win 11๐ค
Bcs like i told u if after 2 years my brother will think of upgrading to win 11 so he will have the worst laptop according to this sensd ๐
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Hello @drowsy snow how's it going?
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hows it going?
Why is there so many messages here
Sound Fix involving switchover to Pipewire audio server: #1174216220103417956 message
here for future reference.
Handling sudo and su in Debian (for future reference)
Link and sample pic for Super Grub2 booting utility (for reference)
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so did he not resolve the issue?
that is a actually untrue, windows 11 doesn't support old processors only because they're disallowed artificially. there is no reason why w11 wouldn't run on a 6th gen processor but would on a 7th gen.
it's just Microsoft making these decisions, you can only guess why they want people to get new hardware
sample of manual mode 2-disk dual boot setup:
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MANUAL LMDE 6 setup onto an external USB drive:
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manual Arch install, 2-part video(s):
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link to official Debian Live ISOs
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video to create custom resolution or refresh rate:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkzrQqT_lFI
In this video I will show you How to set a Custom Screen Resolution in Ubuntu Linux.
Commands used in the video (watch the video as some commands could be different in your case):
xrandr
cvt 1920 1080
sudo xrandr --newmode "1920x1080_60.00" 173.00 1920 2048 2248 2576 1080 1088 1120 -hsync +vsync
sudo xrandr --addmode Virtual1 "1920x1080_60....
#1268241176230760508 message simple dualboot install process along with Windows on one disk.
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sudo apt clean && sudo apt autoclean && sudo apt autoremove to clean out APT
Black screen boot issues:
Niko OP โ 31/07/2024 18:18
I found a solution. For future people, you need to go into the recovery mode, click boot normally, then open the terminal and type sudo nano /etc/default/grub and edit the line "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" " to be GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset" (adding nomodeset) this fixes the error and lets you proceed to default loading.
LM Guide: #1272611699341660241 message
Verify ISO file within Windows 10/11
https://www.linuxmint.com/rel_wilma.php v22 release notes
hello
#1277530564731076638 message explanation of software methods in Debian/Linux Mint
https://youtu.be/qxnM0rvVbDc?t=304 (5:04) how to use Synaptic, thorough and simple.
https://youtu.be/pi3haU6h1es?t=393 : 6:33 - video on how to set up Rufus 4.4+ properly. (AskYourcComputerGuy)
https://youtu.be/UuD4U_P4U_g?t=317 (5:17) Delete Old Boot Entries in BIOS/UEFI (TechWorld)
Here I have shown how to delete old or obsolete UEFI Boot entries in the BIOS that are not useful or active. The are boot entries of previously installed OSs. I have used the app called efibootmgr. It is a free command line tool to change UEFI BIOS configurations.
Also using this package you can create/add boot entries, change boot order or chan...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HVX0kEC5NU << short musical vid of how to remove Windows from dualboot and clean up UEFI
https://www.asus.com/support/faq/1044458/ << Link for WINDOWS 10 or 11 install when "storage media cannot be found" due to RST drives.
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https://youtu.be/CZ17JrgFFhw?t=548 (9:08) CyberCPUTech vid on how to fix trashed Windows EFI partition
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Hi , what do u advice me for a i3 7020u and 4gb ram hdd , tried mint xfce but a bit laggy ,
locking a kernel, to prevent upgrade problems on video/wifi: #1299162744838160434 message
1309 messages is crazy
are you sure not upgrading linux is a good idea?
Stunner's Notes
https://gparted.org/download.php 550 MB live- ISO to help partition linux or any drive, pre- or post-install.
https://youtu.be/O5kh_-6e4kk?t=92 (thenewboston) << How to use gparted.
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https://youtu.be/CuonyS3xdwg?t=303 <<5:03 ThioJoe Ventoy Secure Boot enroll steps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Mev24M-Bs8 << Techhut, Setup Ventoy from Linux
https://youtu.be/F6dKHuFiQcQ?t=472 (7:51) Restore a USB from being Etchered/read-only. (explaining computers)
#1297237111728111666 message << Theme GRUB.
Possible Chromebook audio fix: #1331687918267273256 message
Possible Slow internet on Linux fix: #1334272374312276162 message
How to get to grub menu if not shown: #1331824974440431768 message
Ventoy setup: #1295816480256163892 message
โ #1193345280733622272 message << Link to Turning off Fast Startup, and the dual-boot reference videos.
Set up Linux or any OS on a target pc using iVentoy from other pc on same LAN: #1365287731357286492 message
Better AI-voice video on iVentoy use, no VM. https://youtu.be/oI948edU_Vk?t=178 (2:58) by @NETVN82
Linux GUI customizations and ricing: #1366203122938019912 message
keiaa - verbose article on windows cursor conversion:
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very nice WinXP GTK/icons rice on Cinnamon, with source link:
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old thread, no pics. Shrink Windows drive safely with Aomei: #1361801894129045634 message
Shrink Windows drive safely with Aomei: #1366753008087728148 message
https://youtu.be/AeR8Rk5LwWU?t=774 (12:54) Set up hdd auto-mounts in fstab. (JOE COLLINS)
https://youtu.be/yYZUnx9yZKE?t=1106 (18:26) Tune ext4 filesystems space (JOE COLLINS)
Prepare new drive for use with Steam: #1419036294276710623 message
Find directory space usage, even on mounted encrypted volume:
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Verify ISO'S: #1367031929999986698 message
https://youtu.be/IsEKxJrmmy0?t=813 (13:33) HIRENS BOOT CD PE usage for NTFS drive check and repair. (Tommy Thompson) >> do not use the /r flag unless prepared to wait hours and need deep recovery!
https://youtu.be/KcFANbzgyoo?t=365 (6:05) Hirens PE features (CyberCPU Tech)
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How to CHROOT: #1351963021819514930 message
Secure Boot Linux Mint setup upon reboot> #1384959631633154119 message
Jeremyb's way: #1295763692415356968 message
BITLOCKER: "Am I Encrypted?" (AskLeo) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bz33ta42U0
ventoy and fast startup
good pre-install Linux starter knowledge: #1370524777697251410 message
How Storage/file browse works: #1375141638929907773 message
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8u5CabMz1I << by BTNHD, 5 minute video on how to make a SWAP FILE
The following will create a 2 gig swapfile (1 MiB x 2048)
Adjust to suit your size accordingly.
sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile bs=1024k count=2048 (make big empty file)
sudo chmod 600 /swapfile (set linux read/write permissions on file)
sudo e4defrag /swapfile (defragment the file)
sudo mkswap /swapfile (transform the big file into usable swap)
sudo swapon /swapfile (turn on swap (virtual memory) on in the system)
free -h (test to view that swap memory is now in play)
sudo xed /etc/fstab (edit the fstab file to make swap automatically available on each boot)
(put this into the fstab file on new line near bottom) :
/swapfile none swap sw 0 0
(save the fstab file and exit the editor)
sudo reboot
free -h (once booted back to desktop, to check memory and virtual memory (swap) )
Steam launch trouble - i386 libs related: #1459703420377366528 message SOLVED
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