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as well as such things being somewhat abitrary and too complex anyway
like some people start out being better at things, some just had more practice or time
Oh yeah, the social workers here often have the groceries sent to the facility. I do my own groceries, tho, because I'm like a strong, independent autist. 🤣
i do my own groceries with assistance
its basically nothing more than a familiar person to fall back on if i feel to overwhelmed and stuff like that
i do all my own cooking and 99% of the cleaning
like if it wasnt for the intense therapy im planning to see if i can handle as well as me going to a gender therapist of sorts?
Ayy, sweet! 😄 I bet that'd be really helpful.
like she basically helped me get a referral from the gp and now we're attempting to nail things down to make the gender team(the ones that do the actual diagnosing) be more confident in diagnosing me sooner
it would be, its just that school is a full time job level commitment and i also gotta worry abt being able to keep up living independently and not just fall apart
like the kind of therapy im looking at tends to require follow up therapy of some kind as well
so i gotta be sure abt it
plus i gotta get a new gp first since i moved cities anyway
so i have time to think
Oof, know that position. Yeah, that's worth thinking about.
hi hi hi hiii i have a general question about gender & gender identity. here it goes:
So I'm a dude yea? But at the same time I am not really sure. I like my male body but I don't really feel any particular attachment to the concept of manhood / masculinity / maleness as a gendered concept. Like I am totally indifferent towards it. I just don't think that stuff is all that interesting or important to the me-that-is........but on the other hand, on very rare occasions I /do/ feel like FUCK YEAH I'm a dude! yea bro!!! but that's really rare and maybe i am just tricking myself to follow the tide, enjoying fitting in and playing / following a script. in general im just like.......MEH about being a guy. Like if I woke up tomorrow as a girl I would be actually kinda excited! And sad because I do still like my 'old' male body but I think it would be kinda fun to try out a new form and it might make my attraction to males a bit more palpable in society's eyes. In the end, I just feel like.....male.....female.......who cares as long as I catch mice? Or, as Orlando said: "Same person. No difference at all... just a different sex."
but I don't think my feelings about my gender identity (what an abstract, faroff flux thing!) are normal at all. thoughts?
/srs
I feel exactly like that. I've felt a bit confused about gender since i was little but i never have been able to figure it out or necessarily felt discomfort. Recently i started using neopronouns and it has made me feel better, and I dont worry about the specifics of gender identity to much. If people call me cis or nonbinary it doesnt matter to me. But this is definitely normal
Gender confusion is especially common in neurodivergent people if that helps in some way. If you could find an lgbt friendly therapist that might be helpful, depending on you as a person and how you feel comfortable !
its not like a HUGEEE deal in my life, its just like a little quirk i would say. like i dont fixate much on my gender, i consider it kinda trite at least in my own life 😛
it's pretty normal, we're pretty fluid as people so it's ok if you feel more masculine or feminine at days or even dont feel that typically masculine as man or feminine as woman in general - feminine men exist and they are 100% valid, androgynous(i believe that's the correct term for neither male nor female? i'm a bit confused about terms still lmao) men exist and are totally valid as well - same goes to masculine and androgynous women.
if you however are feeling more comfortable for example being addressed as anything other than male (or reverse: you dont feel comfortable being addressed as man all the time) you might wanna check out if something under the gender-fluid or bi-gender (or even nb) umbrella speaks more to you.
since you feel comfortable in your body i just wanted to say that no gender identity forces you to "transform" to look more like your gender identity - some people feel the need to change some stuff, some dont, it's all about you being content with the way you are and the way others address you 
Ginny Lemon and Bimini Bon-Boulash explain their struggles being Non-binary. Watch RuPaul's Drag Race UK on BBC iPlayer now: https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p091prm3
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dang not available in germany ;-;
A piece of quality TV from this year's drag race UK
D:
It is basically these two having a heart to heart
Ginny (the one on the right) opens up about not fitting into a gender box, and just that struggle, and Bimini (the one on the left) is out and happily non binary, and just comforts Ginny on this and otherwise saying you define yourself, it isn't for anyone else to say
But it is a wholesome piece of content, shame you international folks can't access
Mmm
It's also btw why Ginny wears yellow
Not just because yellow is the colour of positivity, but because it is also the NB colour
Will watch the vid and break it down so you know the beats
-tears as Ginny admits to Sister Sister, another queen who she is paired up with on the challenge, not knowing for years if they identified as he or she
-Yellow became their way and their colour as it didn't define a gender.
-Mentioning the discomfort of being in their body in confessional, drag was their release
(more to come, just giving you something to read)
-that dichotomy of having more success as a woman (as a drag queen) than in their daily life as a man, and them releasing that they aren't male or female
-Ginny moving on to mention when she discovered NB, and felt instantly that that is who they were, and she was found, but going on that road of self love was the longest and hardest they've had, and they still struggling to go through that, sister offering comfort saying that they should love themselves (Ginny is a bit of a UK drag icon, very witty and dry comedy, as well as just a bit of a goofball)
-Bimini hearing the heart to heart, reaches out as she does her costume work, to see if Ginny is ok, Ginny holds a brave face, as they begin their heart to heart
-Bimini freely admits it is a hard conversation to have, especially with those that just don't get it.
-Bimini, in confessional, gives us the lessons we need, that it isn't new, it is just a new word for something that has existed forever, and gives the basic version of it (someone who doesn't feel masculine or feminine, instead somewhere floating between)
-Bimini saying the binary doesn't make sense, given the sheer number and complexity of humanity
-Ginny talks about how it was hard, as she never had that support, coming from a lower income (working class) family, if someone was outside the norm, they were just a freak, "me and my siblings survived, we never lived", felt they were ugly and stupid while growing up, which made their drag persona a joke on that, playing it up for comedy, but they never had a chance to explore outside that bubble life out them in
-Having their own space liberated them, and allowed them to accept and begin the road to loving themselves, finding that escape that they needed.
-Bimini assures Ginny that they, and everyone is still and always trying to find out themselves, that Ginny isn't not alone in this self-discovery
-They (Bimini) admits it is a struggle and fight, like square legs in a circluar hole, but goes on to say about it isn't up to anyone to say or define how you identify, or debate with you on that. You know you best. They then hug and lots of good feelings had as they share this moment
@wicked jungle
Finished
thank you so much 💙
No worries 💜
But yeh, I stand by Bimini's message and Ru's message too
Firstly, it is up to you to know who you are, who you love, how you love, and how you express yourself
And if you can't love yourself, how in the hell ya going to love someone else
So rock on pal
@fading ember
You are a star, and we love you however you want to shine. You are your own person, and you are to be loved how you want to be loved. Be yourself, be fantastic, and if you want, just be gay
Androgynous is for those who appear neither male nor female. It tends to be a style rather than anything else.
In a few cases, perhaps, but their are people who are naturally androgynous
yeah i didnt know which other word would be apropriate, i only fount "neutral" which somehow sounds worse
¯_(ツ)_/¯
gender non-conforming could probably encapsulate androgyny/gender-neutrality and appearing as the "opposite gender" (ew gender binary)
Idk if it could include the former (androgyny), agreed it covers the second
It falls in the 'between' of the binary, which is something that doesn't fit everyone.
opposite o.o
idk about "between" since it can also be outside of male and female but idk, words are hard
No, androgynous specifically refers to 'between' - partly male and partly female in appearance.
androgynous yes, i was looking for neither male nor female, i failed, now i am confused
Then non-conforming, nonbinary or agender works, yeah
agender women....
oh yeah i watched DRUK live. it was a good talk, i defo related to some portions of it. i also related a lot to Tayce
they filmed DRUKS3 im so excited its going to be next level
I know of nonbinary women, so I could see agender women being a thing
also @proper knot where did u get that profile picture? ive seen that similar style like everywhere lmaooo
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And yeh, Tayce was a quality queen
i have never heard of it being used like that similarly to feminine, androgynous or masculine, the more you know?
Just unabashedly proud of who they are
Not without faults, but they knew and accepted them graciously
Much as I wanted another queen to win, I am very happy still with the winner we got
Given the representation that they finally allowed Drag Race to have
(purposely keeping it vague to avoid spoilers)
i follow the drag race spoilers religiously because i craveeeeeee informations
Heh
Don't blame you
I really want VG to win the next season of DRUK
Covid robbed her of the chance to shine
||Ginny did actually walk off the stage btw in the lipsync, but she just kissed the judges goodbye at the start of the lipsync, and then mad cackled as her leaving 'line' @fading ember||
||was iconic and a what the hell just happened moment||
yall make me want to watch drag race again 
Watch DRUK
Though there are some amazing queens in DR S13
It is far too long
Also marmy
Can you watch US edition clips that are posted on YouTube?
As there is, simply put, one of the cleanest lipsyncs ever
eh close enough
splelling things correctly is ocerrated
I did like our top 4, besides ms Dundee, she just brought it down a smidge
i can only see 3 uk drag race vids but as far as i see rupaul's normal drag race chanel is open to me
Wooop
Ok, you need to watch Denali Vs Rosé if you seek amy
Denali, the one in the black ponytail, eats it alive
Her sense of timing is everything
the last season i watched was 11 sheesh
Hits basically every beat
And the only beat she missed, it was off by like 3 frames
To quote Mrs Courtney Act
It is... So good
there is so much drag race now
and IAS filmed 😍
and i read an article in french mesia rhat Draf Race France is in the works bonjour mademoiselle oui oui baguette
DENALI GURL
SHE SLAYED
OH HONEY I CANT TAKE MY EYES OFF OF YOU
and the comments are cute oml
Glad you got to witness it's glory
Just the timing makes me gag every time
Down to the leg twists and taps
Frogmarching to each beat
The opening legs
Just yes
Everything yes
if you could pick any country to get a drag race spinoff what would it be?
idk why but that especially just was a whoop for my aesthetics seeking heart
and dont do what my friend did and say North Korea 🇰🇵
obviously antarctica
for me i think Drag Race India would be litty fire emoji
Drag race Russia
no
welcome to the stage Putin Sucks
it could have potential with russia being so proud of ther professional dances
but since it's also russia: no
My very first mental image was penguins in wigs. Thank you. 😆
@wicked jungle
meow
Oh! Speaking of drag stuff from earlier. I found a drag king channel a while back that was delightful
Brooklyn is a professional ballet dancer and does basically the whole lipsync en point
i cant find anything
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I have no idea what pronouns to use for this person aaaaaa
oh theres more letters, brb
I cried laughing from this one. The roasts. chef's kiss
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Yeh, mb
you good ^^
The makeup tutorial had me looking at my supplies like Hm
Tru
But yeh, the level of technique Brooke showed in that performance is like wow
Precisely
"nothing is wrong with liking steampunk, there are so many worse things or a person to be interested in... proceeds to list the worst things a human can do"
sweet davy jones 👀
😆
I haven't actually seen that vid in ages 🤔
Hehehehe
I'm going to share that with my partner when he's awake so I can cackle at his reaction.
That's a gloriously horrible pun
chaos is a nonbinary icon, I lov them
chaos design is also so incredibly interesting, the longer to look at them the more you're just amazed
I love that they hold a tiny earth 🌏
Loki is a genderfluid icon
Looking back at tiny child Raven with hindsight about always wanting to be able to shapeshift like 👀
I've started a sea words pun off in another server and I'm very proud of myself rn. 😈
:3
Pun friendship cemented
Hell yeah
I've got Under The Sea stuck in my head now lmao
like the first time i saw them i was like 👁️
since i've been playing since before the first official non-beta release
as in when you beat hades you just died and restarted
This is on topic to CI, right?
When did pirates allow gay marriage?
Packing for trips is a nightmare because I want to have 4 different types of outfit, a push-up bra, a light-level binder, a sports bra...
Frilly things and also some boxers 🤷
Pirates were literally nothing like other societies at the time. They could:
- Marry other men (it wasn't always for emotional reasons, sometimes it was an actual Friendship Marriage and others they were genuinely in love)
- Elect their own leaders, and depose them if they weren't fit for the role (unlike in the navy, where you became an officer based on who your parents were)
- Get fair pay - on a pirate ship, the average sailor would get one share, the officers like the doctor, the master gunner, the quartermaster would get 1.25 or 2 shares, the captain would get 1.5 or 3 shares, etc. In contrast to the navies, where anything found in terms of loot would go to the captain and the captain alone.
- Get compensated for their injuries at sea
And many other things
Actually, let me just-
One pirate's code
I'm just so confused because I don't see anything about marriage in that document.
i found something. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matelotage
Matelotage (French for "seamanship") was a same-sex civil union amongst sailors, in particular pirates, in the 17th and 18th century. An economic partnership, "matelots" would agree to share their incomes, and inherit their partner's property in the case of their death. In addition, they would pledge to protect and fight alongside each other in ...
so it was simply wealth.
economic propositions to get the other person's finances.
Well, no, that wasn't something I was bringing up with that screenclip. 😅
this is the lgbtq room and i only asked about same-gender marriages, you're killin me here. 🤣
😉
But also, like... it's under the same view of 'This man never married, but he did adopt and raise several children alongside his best friend.'
Marriage for convenience and property and wealth established while at sea seems more like an arrangement of finances. But then again, marriage was rarely about love in our overarching history as a human race. The securing of property was why arranged marriages were so commonplace.
JUST LET ME DREAM ABOUT GAY PIRATES, OKAY
YOU CAN DREAM BUT THEY DIDN'T HAPPEN.
❤️
Marriage's history is a rather fascinating evolution.
Also I assure you that they didn't shower for months/years and nowhere near as sexy makeup as Jack Sparrow. lol
Jack Sparrow isn't all that interesting to me, and literally nobody showered regularly back then.
I wonder if the very meaning of marriage is the reason why the condemnation of gay marriage was so explicit in judeo-christian families, as well as traditionalist households carrying family honor.
Want babies, make babies, etc.
Pass income and wealth
History's lady pirates were fucking badass
They were
There's a tutorial??
height... dysphoria.......
i hope this is ok - i just really love our queer lord of brooklyn 99
Bing is right for once
As an addition to the above
this is such great news oh my goodness
holy shit tyhis is amazing!!! i'm so glad
😭 ❤️
"Your pets will love you. They already know who you are" is kinda destroying me
like damn your pets are so much smarter and love you so much more than some(probably most) parents
gosh and a martial arts + wrestling backthrow into the "i know who my daughter is, and she isnt a boy or an it"
I’m sad :(
Big brain
i thought you might like it
ok i cant find an answer to it on google but
what if you were in a heterosexual relationship and got married but afterwards came out as trans and decided to transistion - what would happen to the marriage, and especially in countries where non-straight marriage isnt legal?
have seen this post and it has been on my mind for a few days
i'm happy for them - so incredibly much, and i love the implication it brings along with it
but dang marriage is complicated, i am confusion
I mean countries where gay marriage isn't legal don't tend to recognize trans people either
There was big outrage in Russia a few years ago bc a cis woman got married to a trans womaj who was still a "man" in the eyes of the law lol
They all look so happy.
Russia, as a government (not necessarily its citizens so long as they resist), has been quite evil to lgbtq+ folk in general.
People are captured late at night, thrown into concentration camps, died, and one barely escaped to tell the tale.
The United Nations should have declared war on Russia for this disgusting act. This is some Nazi/Hitler level of hate and torture and murder. But we're several years later, and the worst anyone has done is withdrawn some money out of banks.
yeah idk why but i forgot about trans rights also not being treated like common sense for now still. was a nice second tho - to think that everywhere trans people had the chance to be themselves
I wish I could tell you that could be the case one day. But transphobia exists in most first-world countries. Gay/lesbian/bi/pan/LGBTQQ2SIA+ still fights for rights. Racism exists in practically every country (and always has, but it's been brought to light even more). Religious warfare still dominates the Middle East after 2000+ years.
I'm not sure what part of the human condition teaches people to hate each other. Even worse, to tell someone else how to live and invade their own life.
Still, that doesn't mean we can't change ourselves, our household, our community, and our governing systems to make your dream a reality.
do you really think russia needs the UN? they got acres and acres of land, gold, oil, patriotic lads, russia has only been conquered twice in its entire history of being probed by khan, the ottoman empire, napoleon, japan, sweden, napoleon and less fun moustache model of the third reich. they dont need you, they dont care for your judgement and will not change.
not at least until the current ranks of ministers have left the parliament and people who were around for the extremely loud and common homophobic and racist USSR propaganda, and the less extremely loud n proud but still very loud anti-lgbt & anti-equality of the following years until now - and until probably forever - have died off.
europe still needs russia for their cheap(er) oil and electricity - the only other big enough country would be murica but it costs like 2x more, and i aint even counting the additional costs of maintaining it.
money still rules the world.
as someone who lived with very russian parents in a european country further from russia: those roots of hate wont just die off, they wont as simply let go - just because there are people that like me got lucky to educate themselves, doesnt mean there arent other first and even second generation of people born of russian descent in different more inclusive countries believing in their hateful values.
if you take america as an example: america had decades - even way more than a century if google is right - to start being ok with the thoughts that "racism bad; POC = People"
russia didnt even have a single year to abandon the discriminating attitude. and people from outside wont help them come along into the inclusion circle, they are too closed off and separated from the world to care.
you can only change the mind of somebody who is willing to be educated (hence why people still believe in discrimination, flat earth, super straight-ism etc)
I hope i didnt go overboard with this message or hurt the "First and foremost, this is a welcoming space for everyone, but is not an education or debate channel."
if i did - i'll yeet-leet it all immediately.
but it's still nice that places of equality and warmth exist
hope i'll get to see the day where everybody can live their own comfort as who they are, love and want to be - but if i also just have the ability of bettering the space for the generations to come - so be it
my adoration and respect goes out to all of you
I don't think anything you said is really deemed a debate, we're on the same page.
still better to be safe than sorry
true 🙂
i just wanted to acknowledge that i read the rules tbh xD
it's unfortunate that this level of isolationism still exists, but Russia certainly isn't the one-and-only guilty of isolationist hate speech.
also, sorry i forgot to respond to your answer to my "why did you lose hope in dating" a few days ago, work was in the way partially 😓
i just wanted to add on: i believe that once this whole thing has cooled over the dating will be possibly at its best again, and i'll cross my fingers for you to soon find somebody to be close with and who will adore and love you as you are 
awe thanks ❤️
you sound like such an interesting and open person, you deserve the best ^^ 
it is sad and unfortunate that most 1st-world countries have political parties so heavily integrated with hate speech and hate groups. every generation we hope that this generation will be the last one. you, and everyone else, should be happy, live freely, and have nothing but kindness surrounding you everywhere that you go.
groups and discords and organizations like these do such a great job at fostering that for people who don't have that luxury.
yeah, i just hope that people can reach them too - that they dont get blocked country-wide, that they get at least one open window to escape from thier own reality even for a single 5min chat for
Does Russia have access to media outlets that embrace and recognize the lgbtq+ community?
I know China's really strict on outside media.
i think some sites are blocked
they have their own youtube and insta and tumblr, but idk if they also cant access our youtube insta and tumblr
they even have a kind of vine 😩 i miss vine
In 2017 an image of Putin as a "gay clown" was added as item 4071 on Russia's Federal List of Extremist Material
i'm sorry, what??? 😂
👀
Tfw one of your irls messages you saying your ex-friend is missing and you haven't talked to him in a year bc hes a homophobic pos
He literally knew I was gay and called a group of ppl the gay slur while his sister was giving me a ride home from graduation last year
Haven't given him a second thought since then

Karmas a bitch
Missing like missing
sweet davy jones
I frankly hope he's found but karmas a bitch
I know that sounds insensitive but really
Knowing someone is gay and choosing to use a slur in front of them
Is not cool
i mean, i might not know the full extend of his homophobia but if he's only said it once in your vicinity and not even directed at you it might've been an uneducated misuse of a bad word?
Nah
öok
i just remember my own days of accidental slurring and feel really bad for existing
but if he's a butt, the universe has chosen to punish his assitute? hope he comes out alive and well tho
Same
thats a cute way of punishment tho, if you ever need one 😂
actually, now i'm overthinking the consequences of a sudden rainbow 😓
I would rather not directly or indirectly hurt anyone
same but... rainbow....
Next on channel 5 news: the rainbow murderer strikes again!
GODDAMNIT
😂
a murderer that only murders after/while there's a rainbow made of light somewhere tho? imagine the whole city actively trying to make rainbows not appear: no more refracting mobilé- physics class trying hard not to use prisms for an entire year 😩
God i hate her
I hate that shes listed as a trans activist...... She's such a bigot lol
Gotta love the drama
Simply being part of a certain minority doesn't make you a fucking activist
Tried singing/talking in a deeper voice and
Ouch
My chest and throat are not happy
does anybody remember Captain Shakespeare in the movie Stardust
I barely remember the Stardust movie at all
yeah i forgot alot about it aswell, but it's currently for free for amazon prime in germany atleast, idk where else to stream it ;-;
but yeah, i forgot what adorable ally-icons the pirate crew were ;w;
do yall wanna see a catra and adora meme?
its a good show
also wait did it finally get a new season?
it has all the rep you could wish for(to an extent of course) it has a poc/bi-poc in important roles, normalized queer parents, disabled rep
the final season for it is s3 so i dont think it did
they sure did leave us with a cliffhanger so i hope it gets more stuff eventually
oh that was the end?
cant just give me a star elf villain like that and then just let it be ughhh
thats season 1
yeah
it was a nice show dang
The first season premiered on September 14, 2018. Two more seasons have since been released. The series has been renewed for four additional seasons, each with nine episodes.
wait 4 additional seasons????? damn
Netflix renewed the show and all 7 seasons of the saga will be produced.
apparently yeah?!?!
i thought they didnt want it anymore ;o;
spoilers for finale of s3 on netflix ||i hope aaravos physically manifests through the coccooning thing||
remember watching the first two seasons, idk about the third one tho
2019 sounds late 🤔
you should so watch it if you havent
i dont have netflix anymore ;-;
but if i see it somewhere else i definitively will!
i mean i think i can help you there
i have sites for it
if you mean the sweet davy jones life - i can help myself with that xd
one of the sites i use actually has it, i just checked
yeah thats fair
i really wanna watch infinity train but the creators deserve better than me davy-jones-ing it
plus watching it on netflix and getting it popular would more ensure its contiuation so igi
is infinity train on netflix?
from what it looks like it's only on american streaming sites for murica - but you can buy or rent it on amazon?
no its not
its like on hbomax or some more obscure service like that
and i dont think its on amazon either since it was an exclusive series
yeah, german amazon prime doesnt know it
as well as like i really hate amazon so at that point id rather 'jones it than paying amazon for it ngl
only the us site (thank you nord vpn - not sponsored, but liked)
.>
plus im pretty sure netflix keeps costing more and more every year anyway
because they can
netflix isnt that holy themselves (cough cu+ies cough)
its basically the same problem cable had where it must have been fine at some point but all the different exclusivity isnt good for anybody but the company execs
yep
remember when cable had good shows - now it's just buy sky or else watch harry potter 30 times in 2 weeks
no it isnt, i will never forgive them for dropping the ball on dark crystal because it was "Too expensive" as if it wasnt popular and as if they dont have a massive net worth themselves
yeah like after the 1 season
sheesh i havent been with ntflix for so long
WHAAA
everybody loved it!
but i gotta say i like amazons many documentaries
there was one about trans and nb youth
i cried all episodes through 😂
meanwhile almost none of netflix's docus are actual docus
yeah
Y'all, can we stop treating the lgbtq chat like a queer-general? we've got channels for specific subjects to help keep things organized and not alienate people out of chats. I love that you are enjoying chatting and stuff, but if we're discussing the merits of streaming platforms, etc. that belongs in #🎬movies-shows
i mean it being lgbtq isnt the focus of the discussion anymore
Yep, that's fine by me, but yes, the discussion focused moved on, so the chat needs to as well, or maybe taken to DMs. ❤️
WAIT WE'RE GETTING 7?
apparently yep xD
wait so what is this chat for?
o wait sorry shlee my discord was scrolled up and didnt notice your message
but yeah if anybody gets their hands on stardust: cry with me about captain shakespeare plz
discussion of LGBT-centric stuff. issues, news, media that is LGBT-related, etc. It's not just... "we're queer and having a normal conversation", it's meant to be a safe space to discuss LGBT issues
and a place for people to feel comfortable and safe when broaching those subjects
ohhh okay, ty Shlee ❤️
maybe spoilerage: ||he's a genderqueer/gay/bi??? icon and his pirate crew are the best i may be crying still||
i always forget how wonderfully inclusive neil gaimans shows come out
like good omens? knock me out bro
holdon how did i not know abt it
xD
where do i get my hands on it
stardust is super good
it's currently for free with amazon prime in germany
not for kids
idk about other countries tho :c
hella scary for kid me loool
like bc of violence or bc of smth else
mmmmm creepy? like, fern gully
and also lot of casual murder
yeah
but you dont notice it if you are older
forceful transfiguration, dehumanisation, etc
I never forgot loool
I highly recommend the book
yes!
It’s so good and the movie doesn’t cover everything BUT the movie gives us the pirates
MUCH MORE pirates
best pirates ;w;
They don’t have nearly as much time in the book
OH WAIT WE DIDNT MOVE TO THE MOVIE CHAT
i really cant pick up another book rn xd
then pick up the AUDIO book loool'
i mean, the pirates be kinda gay tho ;)
I’m derailing I thought we had moved I didn’t see we were still here
Yeah we should lol
i dont even know where i'd get audio books of something like that
and we can follow up the talk with superwholock which got forgotten last time 
probably audible or one of those really good audio ook sites with free audio books? but more about it probably in #📚books ?
superwholock? dont mind me just remembering like forever ago tumblr and cringing at it
I came across Harvest Moon The Tale of Two Towns among my 3DS games that my friend let me borrow years ago (indefinitely). I thought “I could play this farming sim while I wait for Coral Island.” I looked up the dateable guys and saw that you had to be a female character to date the men. Nope, never mind. Coral Island set the bar too high for me to settle with that restriction.
gross
that's really sad, i believe i wont be able to play SDV any longer either since maboi alex always has to mention the fact that i am either male or female in every breath he takes
all those old games where you're either male or female, straight or straight will be just yeah no
also can you even mod console games for like 3ds n stuff?
for like lgbt mods?
cause maybe the old pc versions of harvest moon have those
or sdv
alex turns gay ||if ur male and dating him||
but you dont turn nb like ever
that's what i meant
name-name or discord nick?
name name
i was going to change my irl name to Jack
and idk
i feel like im obligated to have a gender neutral name
nope

wait f'ck i had a post for that here
show
Not at all, I'm nb, my irl name is decidedly female sounding and I dont plan on changing it cause changing your name is a paaaain
this will do for this second, i need to look through 5gb of nb appreciation posts brb
use a name you like
hell, i'm a guy and my name is now the same as a disney princess
just choose what makes you comfortable and happy
exactly
you dont need to conform to the majority or of "what is expected of you"
my first chosen name is the male equivalent of my female dead-name
^ I change my online name back and forth from Digi and Kats depending on how I'm feeling
then dont rush
your comfort doesnt come faster or slower if you force yourself to decide in a moment where you're pretty indecisive
That's okay too! I'm still deciding on Digi myself but I go by it still, you can always "try on" a name! Ask people to call you that for awhile and see if you like it!
if you're always indecisive: you still came closer to your own identity with saying you identify as nb, or with saying you like Lily the most out of out huge raster of CI lovelies
cut yourself some slack, you are better at this than you think
I would argue but that would be being pedantic and I have had enough of that in my life lol
I will concede this
Thanks
A lot
All of you
hugs are always welcome no matter my emotional mood
will still always ask for consent 
hugs!!
I'm late to the conversation but I'll definitely join in the hug party if you'll have me 
all are welcome
Hug party!
this hug party never ends, we rise at dawn and continue doing so through all timezones
i might try on a name
idk
my friends have known me as jack for so long
id hate to put them through that
and then it might not stay
you're welcome to do so at any time here for first tryouts
i believe nobody here would mind at all
Discord is a great place to try out names
yall are so nice its incredible
kudos to the devs to making a game taht attracts nice people, eh? xd
if this were an among us server this channel would be cursed
This is a really nice community for sure from what I've seen
sometimes ;w;
i like the name Alex
it's a beautiful name
itd lean more female than male in my case
if i may or if this interests you
i always think of the alexandrite and its colorful glory with the name Alex
beautiful
ikr

hi Alex, it's nice to meet you 
its v nice to meet u too!
Hi Alex!
you dont like it?
ah gotcha
ofc we gonna be nice, we're all in thsi houseboat together ;w;
i dont dare to say friends cause like i dont believe i'm thought off in a friendly manner to everyone alone but houseboat of acceptance and comfort is nice
yessss
yeyeye

i am currently drawing it 
it's a lovely boat
can very well imagine how when it's stormy we can still cuddle up inside with zarah and the kiddos for some of zarah's adventure stories

yuss 
I know what it is but if anyone else needs it, yea :D
Please don’t.
that shoudve been the reaction to the story lmao
It may not be for you but that is kink territory for some people and not something that should be gone into in a pg server because of that.
It’s not a misconception that needs to be aired and cleared up in a pg server.
just explain it to people who perhaps dm you about it then
the server is pretty weird about its pg rules sometimes but it's aight for now 
we all understood you 
Just wanna say, a few friends explained to me that being asexual makes me count as lgbt. Its weird thinking I have a group I belong to? Jdjdjd
welcome! 
Ty 🥰❤
welcome 
welcomeeee !! <3
I'm looking forward to chatting but I am hella awkward haaaa
And well, being aromantic too I'm not good at most orientation related daydreams
hey it's ok, just know you're most welcome here
Ty 💕💕
even before you found out that you are part of the lgbt
Jdjjdd you're so sweet 🥺😭
Yeah, but in general a lot of people find my lack of orientation uncomfortable haaa
🤣🤣🤣
im ace biromantic :D so yea !
you're doing great 
Ace isn’t a lack of orientation, it’s a perfectly valid orientation all on its own ❤️
yeah i just know how you feel rafabae so it's really overwhelmingly relateable
my sexuality is honestly just 
sometimes i think ive figured it out and then i go hmm.
Loooool
ikr
every day john cena just rips a hole into my composion and asks if i'm sure about that
All I know is I spent my years of ages 16-now learning to find men attractive so I could croon over them with friends 🤷♀️🤣
He's a bae
hmm and whom of our ci cast do you find platonically compatible with you then, if that's something you're more comfy with? 
one day i wanna be this confident
I am all for Rafael cause he seems like he gives good hugs tbh lmaoo
But I love all of them
hehe, i think david got the same idea
since he likes drawing him hugging someone so much ;w;
or chickens
Idk who I’ll go for I tend to go for the classic cryptid option
What does cryptid mean?
that's what we have 99million savefiles for
cryptid according to google: an animal whose existence or survival is disputed or unsubstantiated, such as the yeti.
giants o.o
Cryptids are creatures like bigfoot, the Loch Ness monster, mothman, a chupachubra (I think I spelt that right) the example from stardew would be krobus
i just see chupachups
gotcha gotcha
Like the harvest goddess!
It's pretty awesome you can roomie with Krobus now too haha
So maybe a mermaid if there’s a mermaid option?
I was actually gonna get krobus to move in in my most developed sdv world but then I made the decision to marry my friend-
And is one a merlady or merenby?
everybody is putting their money on denali and agung who we already got to meet but hmmmmmmmm
that we dont know yet
Okie
maybe they'll ad a merperson next to mermaid and merman
I think there will be 5? Or just 2? I don't remember
since so many wished for a nb townie dateable
mhm
2 merfolk dateable only :c
That’s still 2!
but maybe there is hope? just gotta flood the suggestions channel with "nb dating plz
"
respectfully ofc
4 actually :o
we only know the 1st one's appearance
name, gender, dateable status all unknown 👀
the devs like their [redacteds] 👀
also, potentially a very stupid question but
since we potentially can only romance all the dateables after forming a friendship with them are they all demi?????
ive never thought abt that-
i mean they are bi/pan, cause they are ok with us being male female or nb
but demi and bi/pan?
UH LADS
PUT THAT RAINBOW FLAG UP HIGH
Just to point out WHY this server has rules about being PG:
A lot of us may be adults, but we DO have several members who are underage. That's why we don't talk about things like kinks, etc, or anything overtly sexual.
Please do not DM or solicit DMs from other members of this server regarding anything of an adult nature, and definitely do not assume that anyone you're talking to is of the same age as you.
Regardless of your personal beliefs about how mature you or anyone else is, this is for the safety of those of our members here who are underaged.
I would ask that anyone who receives a DM or sees someone soliciting DMs of this nature to report them to the mod team so they can be dealt with. We're a community and we need to take care of our own, especially our younger members.
I think it works this way in all similar games? Like stardew valley, my time at portia etc. But it's a cool thought! It would be nice if you could just ask somebody out first time you meet them, and maybe some dateables will accept and some will be uncomfortable and wanting to become friends first?
sup my fellow gays how it be today
It's really not. We are lenient with cursing, but we as mods have made it EXTREMELY clear that all other topics remain PG. And I will remind everyone that there are minors in this server chatting with adults here. Anything that could be considered sexual in nature is off-limits. Period.
I don't know how many times I have to have this discussion or remind people of this. But the possibility for grooming, pedophilia, etc. is extremely high when minors and adults think it is okay to discuss mature topics such as sex with one another.
No innuendo. No kink talk. PG. Period. And if we can't keep to these rules, I'm gong to start issuing official warnings and bans.
im a broom
I adore this artist!!!
yeah exactly! it's probably easier to code it in a way that all relationships are first friendly then romantic? it's probably also fairer?
similarly to how none of the dateables have their own gender preference that they can shut you down for? idk if that one actually makes sense tho
but it was still a nice overthought thought 
that's so cute ;-;
honestly allies are under-appreciated
but yeah how are you today 
sorry i didnt see this
im doing well 
you?
this so much!!! im nb but sometimes i just like being girly you know
my two moods are girly girl and my pfp which is a picrew i made yesterday
im super happy with it
also it'd be such a waste of rainbow eyeshadow palettes if i didnt feel feminine for a few moments D:
omg it's so cute!!!
do you want tattoos in the future
i definitely want tattoos on my arms and maybe legs
:O
absolutely not on my face though 
more for aesthetics or with more meaning?
what if i tattoo poggers on my knuckles
oh hell no, no face tats up in here
except - but idk if that#s still considered face - behind the ear?
thats not really face
i could consider some on my head just not on my face with my eyes and cheeks and stuff
go for it, your hands, your art
right! they are on the head omfg i'm so stupid i'm sorry
i forgot head is a word
both, i want something to represent my future transition and things to memorise important things in my life but also i want them to look really cute and cool
nothing is set in stone
i want to be fully done with my transition (which will take a really long time as i havent even started on the process of legally being able to) since that would change my body structure
but sometimes i just like looking at tattoos
but i also want something unique
same, have even made little collages of favorite tattoos that come close to what i'd like
not just a heart with the trans colours
understandable
it's a beautiful flag
raven recently found nb flag stickers that have the colors in like feathers and as bird coat
those ideas are hella cute
i really like birds, i wanna work with ornithology in the future
that's cool :O
so im definitely getting a bird with enby or trans colours
i dont want my entire chest and back to be filled with tattoos though
like just a sleeve or two
yeah
and you are more in favor of colorful tats or just the flags colors?
most prefer black ink only (especially since colored ink apparently hurts so f'cking much)
id like to have mainly black tats if theyre not pride colours so that the pride tats would stand out more
oooh colored accent on the pride tats? neat
and yeah tattoos hurting is scary cus im a wimp and 
isnt there a thing of like "beauty is pain"?
ahh i wish getting tattoos wasnt as hurtful
yeah
imagine if you could just draw on your skin and bam, it's there
and also a music album by chelsea wolfe called pain is beauty
if you dont like the design, just erase some
have you heard of those like
that's poetic af
non-permanent tattoos
yes
im definitely having some of those to try out my tattoos before i actually get them
i planned on getting some diy non-perm ink
brb i gotta call my grandma
most of the premade tats dont really have what i would consider having
ok, have fun 
with inkbox you can choose custom designs
i kinda want something like
mythological
im fascinated by norse and greek mythology
i prefer norse mythology since i myself am norse
hmmm
i am not very well educated on nordic mythology, tell me about it :o
i always wanted to get into nordic, irish and egyptian mythology but there is so little still avalaible of them ;-;
as a whole?
yes or just what you could imagine getting as tattoo from it
i know i definitively want mini greek god symbols for whose stories helped me through teenagehood
if you wanna get into norse mythology i recommend the poetic edda, the viking spirit and norse mythology by neil gaiman
good books
i havent heard of the viking spirit but i'll definitively check that one out too!
i dont really know what id have
maybe something like a raven, i definitely want a raven
i havent heard of the viking spirit before, but i agree with the rest 100%
probably mjölner as well
a raven :o
oh you're talking abt tattoos as well
the only mythology about ravens i know is... i believe a native american myth?
of the rainbow raven
oh no mb it was a rainbow crow
huginn and muninn are two ravens and theyre odens homies
The story of the Rainbow Crow is claimed to be a Lenape legend, symbolizing the value of selflessness and service. The Rainbow Crow, the most beautifully feathered bird, offers to make the arduous journey.
i remember thosee two ;w;
i feel like here in europe its a little less great to get certain tattoos that would be considered norse in origin, simply because white supremacists use them to flag each other
yeah 😩
its especially more bad outside of the norse countries as well, most likely
like pls
ugh seriously? they claimed those?
like they really did appropriate so many runes n shit
wow that's disgusting
im in finland rn but i think im gonna move to norway but its still like
jesus
on the topic let me show you some runes
like sowilo is one of my favourite runes and natzees really did say put them together into "the black sun" and use it for our own organisation ugh
i literally dont understand their logic
norse mythology with the gay rights god, thor who is a femboy himbo and loki who is a genderfluid pan furry
pls
or like how most othala runes used in divination doesnt include its "legs" because it was used it a flag
YEAH LIKE i wouldnt really name thor a femboy simply out of respect
this but me and white supremacist assholes
as well as how widespread the influence of the norsemen were, meaning they most likely also had poc/non white men practicing within their religion as well
basically
nords were awesome, it sucks so much that their culture got appropriated cause "ooh pretty"
like as somebody that studies history and mythology for fun the white supremacist narrative around celtic and norse old practices is >:(
im norse i just wanna have fun with my ancestors religion and beliefs and then idiots come in here like "MaStUh RAcE"
i have both celtic and nordic ancestry, so im researching welsch and norse mythology and history
and the erasure of alot of history through christianity, buddy why
i want to learn about irish folklore without adam and eve and noah mixed into the bunch ffs
it is quite hard to disconnect christianity from what we have left of nordic myth
same with a lot of the celtic stuff
and even history reseach has been and still is to a point incredibly biased
yes, it sucks so much
this is clear from how a bunch of archeological finds were treated as well
everything about russian folklore burned down because f'cking everyone wanted a piece of moscow and they burned it down like 6 times
maybe they were open to other nationalities and sexualities, but we wont ever know
i just saw a jewelry pendant that combined the black sun with the sowilo rune
like a mainstream thing
😰
like thats how you will get flagged as a natzee regardless of if you'd be or not
of the aztec: they had a god of homosexuality and the fantastic spanish lads who found them just made that god the reason for why the azteks didnt survive, they were considered weak because they accepted gay relationships and trans rights
it's so disgusitng
yeah..
"hey i really like this mythology" "racist?" "no, mytho-" "racist."
on the topic of mythology
i mean i very much did a lot of research to make sure i wouldnt be flagged as a racist as somebody that engages with norse mythology
can i show you guys a really cool thing
yes!
as a positive thing
mythical beasts of scandinavia and where they are
:)
:O
i thought it was really awsome
sandra i have a question, how do you feel about the translations of jackson crawford?
not entirely sure of what youre talking about
are the names under/next to some of them the names of the mythical beasts of the area of where they came from :o
he seems to have the proper credentials and seems to take a lot of care in his translations be accurate
i tend to read the swedish books for norse and greek mythology as they tend to not translate the names of people in the stories
and also my vocabulary is a bit better in swedish
thats fair i guess haha
i just dont really have enough knowledge of any of the nordic languages to transliterate it
and even then i feel like translations done by people where its their job would be better anyways
idk about you but i think it'S this cucumbersnatch guy
like i feel like a really big problem in doing any sort of mythology research is author bias
sorry, 5sec stroke
yep
oh wait i do know the viking spirit
or well ive heard of it
but multiple communities of people studying norse myth feel like he's a bit of a hack? and i honestly dont know how to feel abt it
like specifically saying that he doesnt actually have any credentials?
Love to see fun discussions and I'm so happy y'all are finding things in common, but I am reiterating yet again that this channel is not a general chat, so please take non-lgbt-centric convos to an actual general channel.
have fun in dms you two, dont think i can be part of this discussion then :c
No one said anything about DMs, although group DMs exist. I'm asking that we stop treating this chat as a third general chat, that's all. But I've had to ask multiple days in a row now, and some of us should know better.
sandra at your service
im gonna uh
do something
beat up homophobes
enough for me, i am now a fan of your superhero work
please take care of yourself while being awesome 
SO I couldn't help but see this when I did open up this lovely chat, and I'll real quick fix some HUGE mistakes on there:
- Finland isn't part of Scandinavia at all, Scandinavia geografically and historically is the countries Denmark, Norway & Sweden, and only those 3, when we add Iceland and Finland as this map does we call it the Nordic Regions
- Werewolves, or as the map calls them Varulven are not from Scandinavia, they have their origins in Greek and Roman mythology
- Mermaids, or Havfru as the map calls them, are also not from Scandinavia, they first appeared in myths and tales around 1000 B.C in the area today known as Syria, but originates further back in Greek Mythology as Sirens which were half woman half bird
- a lot of the named ones on here such as Mosekonen, Pesta and Grýla are just witches, all three mighty famous in our mythology for the healing and things they did, but just witches.
- there is missing a lot of creatures if you look at the viking's mythology which is what the viking ships around this map seems to suggest it is so I'll list those here
- Midgaardsormen or Jörmungandr as he is knows, the world serpent
- Fenrisulven, Fenrir, also known as Hrodvitner and Vánagandr, the giant wolf of the north
- Rok, giant birds of destruction that lived along the mountain sides where Fjords lead out into sea, never afraid to take down a ship or two
That's really interesting, Anubis!
@charred needle temp tattoos with enby flag do exist!
cough
As much as I'm finding this all interesting, please move to #💬general or #💭general2 chat, please, guys.
Aha, found the link.
https://www.etsy.com/listing/611036199/nonbinary-flag-heart-temporary-tattoo
I want one of these for if I go to a pride parade
thats really cool
raven always has the best etsy links 
Just one last thing to add to this here and then I'm moving to gen chat so it doesn't get lost: this is the artist :)
https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/mwtgso/mythical_beasts_of_scandinavia/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
have you ever gotten to try those? are they ok quality?
im hoping to get an etsy gift card for my bday from my parents
ay sorry for the attitude a second ago that was kinda a dick move of me
Never tried them, no
hey sandra, whatcha think of those?
https://www.etsy.com/listing/951038506/pride-temporary-tattoo-hearts-rainbow?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=temporary+tattoo+lgbt&ref=sr_gallery-1-19&organic_search_click=1&col=1
We should always have pride in ourselves and our loved ones. These little tattoos are a subtle way to celebrate that. There are currently three styles offered: one in rainbow colors, one in the colors of the trans flag, and one in the colors of the nonbinary/genderqueer flag. Please note that the
Ooo
also for your own safety: donot seacht lgbt temporary tattoos on etsy please

O.o?
maybe only for nb or trans
Do they have slurs?
but yeah, what do you think sandra, are those better?
yes that and more
yeah
i understand some people wanna dominate with that but just for your safety lads
ok 💙
The slashed trans heart temp tattoo makes me think of toothpaste 😅
omg true
but the nb is interesting - but thats probably mostly cause the colors of the nb flag are chefskiss
_that sounds like a writing prompt for the most interesting short story ever - am i the only one who wants to see such heartwrenching stories in cinemas 👀 _
realism and drama can work together 
I love that so much
I kinda want to go back to a love story I wrote once... the set-up was typically romance with girl with best friend, and then a mysterious dude comes along. It just ended with the two guys getting together 😂
I just stopped because I can't decide on a language
yussss 👀
Wow u called me out like that
The gaiaonline OC days
I had so many characters for assorted roleplays
The number of them that had shapeshifting powers omg. 🤦
There were so many signs
I had a literally bigender character that could change between two appearances
I didn't even know any of the LGBTQA+ words at that point
what about ttrpg players
no idea what that is
Me hear D&D?? 👀
DND
Yesssss
I'd also really like to play cyberpunk or vampire bloodlines
But bloodlines is so damn complicated
And only one of my friends is actually interested in playing a more tech based setting
T_T
I think we should move to #🎲tabletop-and-boardgames if westart a dnd chat
is called out
For reference, this is one of my favorite shirts
what do you call a nb parent that doesnt sound awkward
like having your kid call you parent just sounds...odd /gen
I have a nb friend who has a kid and they call them zaza
i had a non-binary friend that went by noni
i dont know what ill go by
i just know im gonna bombard my kids with dad jokes 24/7
Yessss all the dad jokes
I’ll probably end up going by something nerdy, like adar or ada. I’m a sucker for Tolkien and enough people would be unfamiliar that it can be neutral
what about aunt/uncle, is there something nb for that?
only heard of a spanish equivalent from "tia" and "tio" to "titi" but idk it sounds bad
I've been people use auntcle lmao
And nibling as a gender neutral word for niece/nephew which sounds adorable imo
Ye, nibling is pretty common now
Nibling is a common word ye
is today (April 26th) Lesbian Visibility Day?
it seems to be
I believe it is indeed lesbians' turn to be visible 
ive also read its lesbian visibility week?
or well a lesbian week more like since visibility alone doesnt seem to be the focus?
You can't hide from us anymore, lesbians!
We see you 👀
The lesbian flag is so pretty 
lesbians, consider yourself percieved and your struggles to be heard
i know it can be hard considering a lot of representation of the bigger lgbtq community can exclude you and your struggles sometimes
and of course, an especially visibility day to the lesbians that dont prefer using she/her pronouns, as well as the nonbinary/gendernonconforming people that identify as lesbian despite gatekeepers efforts to keep lesbianism cisnormative only
shit now people can see me
one of the 3 days of the year my invisibility powers do not work
this part made me happy to read as a nb lesbian myself :D
happy birthday to all lesbians!!! 
are all lesbians born on the 26th of april? i dont have enough gifts prepared 
Dang, I'm May 27th

i dont even know what i want

