💻-programming

[sullen tusk]

first

[hybrid dagger]

second :(

[elder swan]

No I was first

[scenic ermine]

no i was first

[twin tendon]

Yes! We back

[nova oracle]

uh no

[sullen tusk]

We are SO back

[hybrid dagger]

Lies you ate the server

[dusty mural]

tenth

[twin tendon]

Will sever scripts need anything changed

[scenic ermine]

real

[dusky nexus]

8th

[feral blaze]

[uneven hawk]

The programming channel is real

[gleaming rapids]

Oh

[fringe nexus]

i can throw all my shitty ladder programs in here nice

[jovial orchid]

for userWhoCantRead in Users.Where(user -> user.cantReadForShit) {
   userWhoCantRead.Kick("Learn to read bozo!")
}

[sour stag]

greeting

life is complete once more, we have https://discord.com/channels/601558901657305098/1487498713579651223 back

[gleaming rapids]

We can rebuild

[strange stag]

Will this be the new #scripting ?

[twin tendon]

ya

[granite monolith]

When?

[plush axle]

There is not a current estimated timeline to BeamMP's return, Please see https://canary.discord.com/channels/601558901657305098/1487404122805370880 for what we know, and https://canary.discord.com/channels/601558901657305098/1488185488925004079 for updates as we have them.

[wraith crypt]

@plush axle owo

[plush axle]

uwu

[sleek sentinel]

ts not programming

its progaying

[wraith crypt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/403419861641854978/1488320225270300713/1774886141464698.gif

[lofty kayak]

Configured opencode to work with linear mcp and now i can one agent pull an issue there, create an plan that specifies which agents will do each task

Its kinda cool

[lofty kayak]

https://github.com/axios/axios/issues/10604 noice

Thank god im havent touched that lib for a while since they never fixed the menory leaks

[reef raptor]

Man I need to setup a sandboxed environment for javascript stuff why does something like this happen every 2 weeks on this language 💀

[lofty kayak]

Thats why i usually run errything in docker, could be better tho. Bur still better than running on host machine

Think how many vibe coders will install these dependencies lol

[reef raptor]

yeah thank god I don't really do js but jfc

[lofty kayak]

Thank god npm are making it more secure wirh required 2fa for publishing

[reef raptor]

definitely adding "putting every toolchain of every programming language I use in containers" to my todo list

[silver nova]

I'm surprised it's not already like that

[remote smelt]

ADD r1 r2 r3

[twin tendon]

Should beamMP have in game voice chat? I think so the technology is already there and the client already runs an external exe and you would just use that to capture the mic what am I missing here? You would be able to mute people and also the sever owner would be able to decide if vc is enabled on their server

[lofty kayak]

Dunno, maybe the server modders could try to check if the beamng cef supports navigator.mediaDevices and use that api in ui app to get the microphone stream and use webrtc to send it to server

Dunno however would that work in cef

[true lake]

This would definitely be a cool feature, but have you seen how often people used the nword on the chat before it was moderated

It would just end up with people offending each other after they crash or can't catch up to someone etc

[plush axle]

There is not a current estimated timeline to BeamMP's return, Please see https://canary.discord.com/channels/601558901657305098/1487404122805370880 for what we know, and https://canary.discord.com/channels/601558901657305098/1488185488925004079 for updates as we have them.

[twin tendon]

Ehh i wouldn’t let a few bad apples ruin it for everyone every game has VC now and that’s why the client will have options to mute people and maybe even report button that saved the last minute of chat and sends the file to sever ownership for reporting

[somber sparrow]

Maybe it's just the servers that I play on but we're all usually laughing in chat if we have an accidental crash 😆

[twin tendon]

thoughts? https://www.beamng.com/threads/make-blender-animations-work-on-cars.109217/

[pure nest]

Did the beammp back ?

[lofty kayak]

When?

[plush axle]

There is not a current estimated timeline to BeamMP's return, Please see https://canary.discord.com/channels/601558901657305098/1487404122805370880 for what we know, and https://canary.discord.com/channels/601558901657305098/1488185488925004079 for updates as we have them.

[gleaming rapids]

Confusingly worded,

Do you want to see vehicle prop animations in blender,

Or do you want to see animations of parts of a blender model in game

[twin tendon]

2nd i explain it would work best for a unicycle mod I thought that would make it clear

[gleaming rapids]

https://documentation.beamng.com/modding/vehicle/sections/props/

Normal props system should make that already possible, right?

I mean I know that covers it, I've animated a prop to rotate around on a beamling's head with it

But you want to make the animation in blender and just have it run without doing anything else

[twin tendon]

no im talking about blender animations like a walking one for a person hand signals ect. You can make map props play the animation (could make walking peds around a city like this) but they wont work on jbeam from what i can tell only map stuff

[gleaming rapids]

Well there's a pretty significant difference between animated statics/meshes and the dynamics of the jbeamed objects, which is why they have a different method to achieve animations

It sounds like the hunt for a shortcut to save the work, which is reasonable, but basically if the legs of a pedestrian were jbeamed props, you could make the do any thing including looking like actually walking legs

[twin tendon]

yes but im not asking for all the steps and hands to really interact with the world i just want the walking running ect it could still use the snowman jbeam

[gleaming rapids]

For example, by the way, a dial in a gauge is a prop jbeam, because blender animations are just recordings, and vehicles are live objects

It has to be able to react to input, not just "play the walking animation"

A unicycle shouldn't play a walking recording, it should move the legs as props based on input

[twin tendon]

yes u can do spins and stuff but not full legit animations like real games would do it not like how the map prop lets u and yes u could make it play the animation speed based off input the issue is they wont let u play a complex animation

[gleaming rapids]

If you make the legs even more appropriately jbeamed, beyond props and into actual mechanical hydro controlled nodes and beams, you'd actually be able to have legs pushing on ground push the unicycle forward

[twin tendon]

someone did this and it does not look legit at all

[gleaming rapids]

That's the thing, you want it to look right, jbeam it to respond to input, and make it not a prop but actual built out jbeams,

[gleaming rapids]

Then they half-assed it

[twin tendon]

it wont look legit how do u make facial expression with jbeam please tell me lol

[gleaming rapids]

Hundreds of companies can program a robot to stand up, programming a unicycle with kegs to stay upright can't even be that hard

[gleaming rapids]

Rig up hydros like muscles

[twin tendon]

and how to make it react with the rig in blender?

[gleaming rapids]

IMO the only thing useful about blender is making the mesh and getting nodes locations, animations of anything of a vehicle should be hand made in the jbeam

[twin tendon]

that did not answer anything lol u need the rig for the ped this is how games work

[gleaming rapids]

Beam's unicycle doesn't, they do this by relying on the actual mesh ball to rotate and apply torque to the ground

[twin tendon]

(this is how games work that aren't just using spinning balls as a ped and calling it a day)

[gleaming rapids]

Well, unless beam makes new peds and starts using baked animations that they have never done before

It makes way more sense to use actual physical interaction with the world

[twin tendon]

they just need to give us the option to play the animation in theroy u could still give it jbeam but the rig would be the one moving the jbeam

[gleaming rapids]

How many brilliant coders have developed physics based bipedal balance

Many

How many robots have been coded to stand in the real world, many

Programming a unicycle with jbeamed legs to stay upright and walk isn't so hard to imagine

[twin tendon]

i think u are confused about what a rigged ped can do vs some hydro that all use separate models that dont line up legit. like i said someone did this and why is it so buggy? if its so easy they sure seemed to struggle making it look legit

https://youtu.be/_ni0RoldRHg?si=lxV4wrAC9ZUxVXBu

[gleaming rapids]

Lmfao

[twin tendon]

or u could play a real running animation when player hits w like a noraml game does it

[plush axle]

There is not a current estimated timeline to BeamMP's return, Please see https://canary.discord.com/channels/601558901657305098/1487404122805370880 for what we know, and https://canary.discord.com/channels/601558901657305098/1488185488925004079 for updates as we have them.

[tropic sparrow]

ok we know jeez

[gleaming rapids]

That's crazy because those legs flopping around is visual, you can kind of tell the unicycle ball is there

Like, I don't think it's easy

But I also think faking it will really always look bad

[twin tendon]

ether way still needs the rig u cant make real peds with a rig like make them blink and all it would not be faking it would be more legit then anything u can make without a rig like what?

[gleaming rapids]

I think we both are actually on the same page, it's just that the "rigged" model concept would just define the scope of what a jbeamed player model could do

Absolutely you could create a mannequin head in beam, mesh it, jbeam it, give it eyes and a mouth, flexmeshes, connected appropriate hydros, and add some inputs, you can animate a face

You could jbeam the equivalent of input hell games like half sword

[twin tendon]

well i disagree like

[gleaming rapids]

Like, half sword actually is what I would point to as for what a jbeamed walking pedestrian in beam would be like

Use those muscles

Get balance

Move arms and legs

[twin tendon]

still doesn't change the fact i need to be able to play animations on a car same way a map prop does don't worry about wha\t its used for

[gleaming rapids]

But that's fundamentally not compatible with spawnable jbeamed objects

[twin tendon]

thats why i want it added lmao

[gleaming rapids]

The .dae for vehicles defines the mesh and materials and such that the game builds from to make the vehicles, it ignores any animation data in there

If the .dae is for static objects, like say an oil pump on West coast, there the animation can be used

[gleaming rapids]

Note how like a spinner light on a cop car isn't an animation that comes from blender, it's a prop

Note that every vehicle for the game has .dae without animation, they're all animated via jbeam

And each and every one of them has well animated parts without needing to import animations from blender

[twin tendon]

so its an outdated system u can do both what's the point add more work for no reason and keep the game in 2013?

also a spinng fan prop in beam has no jbeam btw it just spins the model the fan has no nodes around it that are spinning

[gleaming rapids]

Props are meshes that don’t flex, but can be animated. They are very useful for things like steering wheels, shifters, gauge needles, pedals, or other parts that are better animated than simulated

[twin tendon]

and a walking animation on flat ground with snowman jbeam would interact with the world idk why u think it wouldnt

[twin tendon]

right now they just need to add a prop func that allows u to play an animation from blender

it would break nothing its just adding to the game

[gleaming rapids]

No look

At the absolute base of this is this

There's no point to that, literally everything about any object you want to spawn in BeamNG that should be animated, it is universal that you design the object to be simulated, not just play a recorded animation

When you provide input to turn a steering wheel, the game moves the actual steering wheel when you do, it doesn't play a recording of a steering wheel turning

When you click to open a door, it's physically unlatched and sprung open, not an animation

If you want legs of a pedestrian to move, it's not going to be a blender animation that makes it happen, they're gonna need to be simulated

Blender animations for spawnable objects do not become baked animations for those objects in beam, because everything reacts to the world

Your forum post is asking the devs to do something pointless

Games that do use rigs and baked animations do all their work up front

Beam does all of its simulation at run time

Therefore blender animations for vehicles are inappropriate for the game engine

[twin tendon]

ok then add a new prop func AND add a new way for blender rigs to interact with the world and while they add it they just should make the rigged peds themselfs its 2026 what games uses a spinning ball as a ped

[gleaming rapids]

Otherwise it would have been easy mode long ago, make a boom arm truck with animated features in blender, import it to beam

wow it works, I didn't have to jbeam anything

[gleaming rapids]

I just think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of why they don't do this

And making animated physical things through jbeam alone isn't so bad that this kind of thing would be needed

[twin tendon]

and u misunderstand why i would want to do it lol 🤦‍♂️ and animating a spinning fan is not the same as a walking person it will just never look as legit because it was never intended to do that. with blender animations u can do endless movements you can even put on a motion suit irl and make ur own rigs that would transfer over this is how they make every game today that's not a spinning ball game or a floating cam game. yes u can make things spin in beamn im asking they add onto that thats why the snowman is just a spinning ball and not a prd with walking animations

[gleaming rapids]

You're asking that for the first time ever in their game, they do something they intentionally don't do

[twin tendon]

beamng.tech alredy has peds btw

[gleaming rapids]

And how do those work, as rigged player characters with blender animations?

[twin tendon]

someone in this discord team has the leaked file

[gleaming rapids]

Imagine if spawnable objects in beam were rigged with skeletons

Hilarious

That's definitely what other games do

But beam?

[twin tendon]

also adding fully rigged peds that interact with the world would keep this game fresh for a long time idc how they do it but making all peds on the map use current jbeam system the lag would be insane

[twin tendon]

for a ped i dont see the issue?

[gleaming rapids]

The current unicycles use stabilizing logic to keep them upright

Stabilizing logic for bipedal characters is a well known computer science field

I believe if we ever see fully human shaped player controlled characters in BeamNG, they'll accomplish it with nodes, beams, and stabilizing logic, not baked blender animations

Which will be in line with beams realism

[twin tendon]

and im saying just update the game engine and make them work like a normal game would

or add another useless car that a modder could've made and keep the game in 2013

[gleaming rapids]

A player character jbeamed like this would be no more complex than any other vehicle in the game, and in my opinion on the order of a pigeon or dseries as far as your cpu is concerned

[gleaming rapids]

Man so do you even like the game?

Like I agree there are things that could be better

But "do what other games do" really isn't their thing

[twin tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/gta-6-gta-vi-gta-vi-6-gif-4090220818505326642

so i can make peds like this with jbeam? be fr man

https://tenor.com/view/gta-vi-gta-6-grand-theft-auto-vi-grand-theft-auto-6-rockstar-games-gif-9826553174734782838

[gleaming rapids]

Yeah you clearly want it to be a different game than it is

Which ok I guess

[twin tendon]

this is not saying change how the cars work

?

would asking for a multiplayer to be included with the base game be called "Yeah you clearly want it to be a different game than it is"?

[gleaming rapids]

Both of those examples are games where every part of what you are seeing is computed in advance when the game is developed, what happens in beam is computed at run time

These are two completely different approaches to games and you saying you're wanting beam to be more like those

[shell bane]

cutting the beef just to say beamng is a fun game

[twin tendon]

im saying keep the cars the same and add a real ped system i cant see the issue with that

also is wanting new things that come in every game really considered wanting the whole game to be different?

and if u wanna talk about half baked the snowman is half baked what i wanted to do was a real ped lol

[toxic coral]

simple script 4 u to make:
Print = "Hello World"
helloworld = print
helloworld(Print)

[plush axle]

uwu

[toxic coral]

owo

[twin tendon]

https://youtu.be/LFW3XbpjzLU?si=fD7Sxiq3pbpu_ee7

[gleaming rapids]

Looks jbeamed to me

Literally what I've been describing this whole time

[twin tendon]

ya and i also said u can combine the rig with the jbeam if needed to make more advanced animations

like giving it a face that has expression as u can see it lacks that one major issue

[bleak trout]

-15 fps again 😭

[elfin vortex]

f

[fluid cliff]

simple script 4 u to make:
Print = "Hello World"
helloworld = print
helloworld(Print)

[plush axle]

uwu

[onyx sparrow]

HelloWorld("print")

[plush axle]

uwu

[regal surge]

if you jbeamed a fan to spin at full engine speed the game would pretty much immediately pause itself because the jbeam is so comically unstable lol

as i found out when prototyping something similar

[plush axle]

As of our latest announcement in https://discord.com/channels/601558901657305098/1488185488925004079, we are expecting to make a soft launch sometime on April 1st - not a joke! (We'll leave time zones up to your imagination) Please see https://discord.com/channels/601558901657305098/1487404122805370880 for what we know, and https://discord.com/channels/601558901657305098/1488185488925004079 for updates as we have them.

[regal surge]

the prop system is what it is because you kind of need refnodes to anchor the prop's rotation and position to some nodes otherwise its going to look very very stupid when the motor moves around and the fan doesnt

or basically anything else vaguely similar

[twin tendon]

whats the max file size u can send to the server?

using MP.TriggerClientEvent

[gleaming rapids]

Huge

But like reasonable

What are you trying to send

[twin tendon]

37kb crashed it

[thin sparrow]

did something related to the lua version on the servers change? when i try to launch with my old plugins its just closes with no errors

[gleaming rapids]

What are you trying to send

[twin tendon]

json files

[gleaming rapids]

And this is from server to client ?

Or from client to server

[twin tendon]

it would need to do both

but client to server is as far as i got

terminate called without an active exception
/entrypoint.sh: line 13: 14 Aborted (core dumped) ./BeamMP-Server

thats what the server says when it crashed

i got it to split it up into 15 files and that worked but when i reset the server to try again it didnt reach 15 the 2nd time it got to 4 then crashed

its a compressed version of beamstate file

[twin tendon]

the error is that a bug with the new server maybe?
terminate called without an active exception
/entrypoint.sh: line 13: 14 Aborted (core dumped) ./BeamMP-Server

[gleaming rapids]

How are you breaking up the beamstate file

There are some obvious issues here

25k lines of beams, 6k lines of nodes, luaState is 20kb long on one line

Are you trying to just send the entire json file in the client event at one time?

[gleaming rapids]

Compressed how

[digital meteor]

about the hack, any idea where it came from?

i got 2fa notif the last couple days for someone trying to get into my insta from > syra / israle etc.

[twin tendon]

ahh that was the issue

just sending the raw json seems to be fine i did not try that first because someone here before told me 445kb file was too big for server

damn i love beamMP

[vapid hollow]

No favicon for the BeamMP website?

[gleaming rapids]

Literally Unplayable™

[vapid hollow]

Exactly

[lofty kayak]

Also no open graph mwta tags so the embedded links not that cool

[west night]

guys can someone help me to get keymaster key?

[twin tendon]

Auth keys are not working

[plush axle]

Currently Keymaster is not online. At this time, you'll simply need to run your servers as private (with something random in the Auth Key field) and provide your friends with the Direct Connect info (IP address & port) to join. See #beammp-updates message for some frequently asked questions.

[gusty wave]

Guys, question.

I'm hosting BeamMP at my own server and I'm wondering if I could install something like a plugin or a mod that helps to configure it more than the regular config file. That would be awesome if it would add more terminal commands maybe, like a TP, or Load map (It's inconvenient to shut down-change-relaunch it when I want a new map loaded)

I appreciate any answer and suggestion.

[twin tendon]

whats the proper way to disable things like node grabber

[lofty kayak]

Cant post a link since those are rate limited, but Simon Willison posted an blog post how axios was hacked. (The axios supply-chain thing) Kinda interesting to read

Actually that blog post aint so interesting, the actual post mortmem is: https://github.com/axios/axios/issues/10636

https://github.com/axios/axios/issues/10636#issuecomment-4182134203

[gleaming rapids]

Input blocking with action filters

[sharp cypress]

i hope im in the right channel rn. but im trying to setup a server for my stream but it keeps saying guest are not welcome. even tho i enabled guests.

[gleaming rapids]

This looks like you have an admin server plugin installed that is blocking guests

[sharp cypress]

ahhh yeah okay. i deleted the server and made a now one and got it working. thanks still tho!

[thin sparrow]

heyy @gleaming rapids how can i get the fuel values using GELua? i will start to try to make that fuel script

i managed to print the values using be:getPlayerVehicle(0):queueLuaCommand('print("maxFuel: " .. electrics.values.fuelCapacity)') but i cant store the variable in eletrics.values.fuelCapacity

[sour stag]

a method is to call an extensions.hook('hookName') and then in your lua script make a public function (M.hookName = yourFunction) and use that data (yourFunction(data))

[digital meteor]

a quick python program to add favs and query non official servers for playercount cuz im tired of manually checking every server 😄

[proper girder]

AI code

[sonic reef]

so what?

[proper girder]

nothing

[digital meteor]

does it not do the job?

[proper girder]

dunno, didnt test

isnt very clear what you said it does

[digital meteor]

"a quick python program to add favs and query non official servers for playercount"

[proper girder]

wdym "add favs"

[sonic reef]

some people are stupid 😭

add favourite servers

[proper girder]

WHERE

add them WHERE

[sonic reef]

omfg

are you dense?

[proper girder]

Here you go with the harasment

i didnt get his statement

you mind explaining

[digital meteor]

nah cuz you gotta be ragebaiting

[proper girder]

cant ask anything

gets called ragebaiting

[digital meteor]

how tf you instantly know its ai code

but cant read the first 5 lines in code 😄

[proper girder]

its obvious btw

[digital meteor]

FAVORITES_FILE = "beammp_favorites.json"

[proper girder]

first 5 lines are imports bdw

[digital meteor]

0/10 rage baiter

[proper girder]

yeah and why would you possibly need to add your favourite servers to a json

seems very unnecesarry

just ping the servers and check if online or no

[digital meteor]

so you dont need to enter the IP every f time 😄

why does beammp have a server browser?

if you can just manualy query every single server 😄

u have to be ragebaiting no other way

ppl like u need documentation on how to turn off their pc

no harassment just pattern recognition

[proper girder]

How would the code possibly know which servers to check

unlesss you have a list specified

[digital meteor]

ye 0/10 ragebait,copy paste the code into gemini or something and try to ragebait ai

[proper girder]

buddy

xddd

you still need to type in the ip manualy

bdunkl

[proper girder]

buddy uses AI and then screenshots a definition of ragebait

[digital meteor]

buddy cant read

[proper girder]

Im trying to see the point in your script

[digital meteor]

if you dont see a point in it, then its probably to no use for you 😄

[proper girder]

Stop trynna play it of

whats the point of it

when you still need to spoon feed it ip's

Ok figured it out myself

its a bit wanky

[digital meteor]

it beats booting up the game and entering each server one by one to check if there are any people online

[proper girder]

yeah, but the only problem is you need to save them at first

cool concept tho

[digital meteor]

well yes unless you got a serverlist for all the community servers then paste it ...

you do know beammp got hacked right?

[proper girder]

you could try to also implement something like that

[proper girder]

yeah, nothing too major for user tho

just a lot of shi offline

[digital meteor]

go under server browser

how many community servers u see there'

[proper girder]

I said "nothing too major for users, just a lot of shi offline"

[digital meteor]

its not offline tho

its just not on the masterlist

if you go to https://discord.com/channels/601558901657305098/1487487087828533350

[proper girder]

Well many people cant reach them yet

[digital meteor]

there are people posting ips there, and half of the servers are empty

[proper girder]

isnt that semi-good for friend groups?

[digital meteor]

no

not until beammp gets sorted

[proper girder]

less people, less lag, more time with friends. I mean if youre looking for randoms then yeah thatas a bum

[digital meteor]

if you check even apex servers for example posted their ips there, who would run 24/7 servers just for some play with friends 😄

[proper girder]

many people do that

idek

okay i finally got the concept

didnt even notice them posting ips

mb cuh

[gleaming rapids]

I don't have a good example to pull out and I'm short on time, but I can give you this, this is VEHICLE lua

[thin sparrow]

Thank youu

[gleaming rapids]

Sorry I couldn't find the GE Lua side, but this provides vehicle Lua functions that can be called from GE Lua to get and set fuel, the get side does call back to GE Lua, so you'll maybe want to set up a GE Lua extension to do the getting and setting

[thin sparrow]

My only question is how do i make a script run on the vehicle lua? Do i need to put it on lua/vehicle/extensions?

[gleaming rapids]

yourMod.zip/lua/vehicle/extensions/trackFuel/trackFuel.lua

so like

note fuel before setting

and then after

[thin sparrow]

great, so now i need to make the server know what is my fuel level and save it, do you have any ideas how to prevent players from editing the fuel in the tuning menu?

[gleaming rapids]

Not sure about that one, how do you intend for players to refuel

[thin sparrow]

maybe i make a dear imgui window at gas stations with a refuel button that just sets the maximoum fuel

then i will need to see how to make it pop up but i think i can make it work with triggers or something

[thin sparrow]

and how do i know the fueltank name, that command works for the covet but not for the scintilla which has 2 tanks for example

[gleaming rapids]

For what it's worth, freeroam and career game modes have working fuel pump interaction, so if you were able to use that, and otherwise have control over fuel levels, and prevent tuning menu fuel adjustment it should go well

[gleaming rapids]

Using the get function if I remember, and you can look at the vehicle Lua, there should be main tank L and R for vehicles with two fuel tanks

[thin sparrow]

i will look into it

[thin sparrow]

oh right i see

[thin sparrow]

@gleaming rapids hey im sorry to bother you again, but was the server lua version changed?

[gleaming rapids]

Not sure what you mean, but I think the server should print which Lua version it uses when it starts

[thin sparrow]

its because before it was saying lua 5.4, and now it says lua 5.3, why the downgrade? and it broke my luasql script

[gleaming rapids]

I can't explain that one but maybe @limpid knoll can

[lilac parcel]

Guys can the developers make a Linux version of beammp

[pliant creek]

There already is

https://docs.beammp.com/game/getting-started/#2b-linux-installation

[balmy marsh]

i suggest the devs make a custom rpc for beammp

[limpid knoll]

That change was to simplify our build pipeline

[thin sparrow]

Oh and is it going to be changed back to 5.4?

[sour stag]

iirc it already does that, to a degree? it sets the gamestate to Multiplayer which updates the rich presence too

but not much more than that

if you meant like displaying server name(?), player count, etc

then maybe

[gleaming rapids]

Unless there's a client mod that changes the game state to career or freeroam and then it reflects that

[sour stag]

sir that's called beammp
beammp changes it to Multiplayer

[gleaming rapids]

And I've made a couple mods for use in BeamMP that change the game state to career or freeroam

[limpid knoll]

We're not planning to at the moment

[latent shard]

What’s up with the new vibecoded website?

[onyx brook]

True

[tawny vortex]

yes

at least its better than 404 error

[proper girder]

Website looks good ≠ vibecoded, bro

[north depot]

You could just, yk
Report the issue

They rebuilt it in record time, it won't be perfect

[latent shard]

It’s very polished on some places and has obvious oversights on others. I’ve had the displeasure to build a react website with ai and this was pretty much 1:1 what it came up with. I could be wrong still

[proper girder]

Yeah, still, lots of websites look very polished

Tbh i like this type of style

And maybe AI just took ideas from these polished websites, because thats what it does essentially. Takes code and reshapes it

[latent shard]

All I’m saying is that it could be damaging to the project’s reputation. If I didn’t know that was the legit I probably wouldn’t have downloaded anything from it

[proper girder]

yea

[digital meteor]

i dont know what you mean, whtas the point of this

[lofty kayak]

Seems to be just wrong dark mode checkbox label tailwind styles or something

Easy to fix

Ahh not checkbox labels

[proper girder]

AI doesnt fully generate code or anything, for that matter. It takes an allready existing image, code or whatever, from the internet, and changes it ontop. Thats why some may be similair to what youve seen allready.

[digital meteor]

it was an inside joke, this was you 2 fays ago 😄

[proper girder]

Ok

[digital meteor]

also this is not how ai works

[proper girder]

It is

It doesnt generate ontop, like i said, it takes very heavy inspiration on what its seen

Also, if it doesnt see a sufficient enough answer to you, on what you asked it, it straight up makes up the answer, depending on what suits your interests

Theres proof of this

[digital meteor]

ai doesnt find/ scrape and change, ai predicts and builds

its a neural network not a copy paste machine

[proper girder]

Oh it does, find and scrape. Not copy paste though. They allready have huge amounts of information in them from various sources, so they take heavy inspiration from that, if they dont have that type of info, im sure you have noticed it outright typing "Viewed [amount] sources"

And if it yet doesnt find that answer, it makes it up, thats why many times, when you compare google (for example) and its own AI Gemini answers, very rarely (but still happens), you yourself cant find an answer on any site, but AI magically found it, and its incorrect

[lofty kayak]

Theres a difference between vibecoding and knowing what to do and using LLM agents for generating the code

[proper girder]

Yes exactly

[lofty kayak]

Parts of the website styles might look like ”vibecoded”, since it uses tailwind for styling and those LLM's do like to write tailwind

[digital meteor]

say to a cheff to make you boiled eggs

every cheff is going to make these boiled eggs the same way

by boiling them

[proper girder]

No way

Really

You didnt get my statements thk

Tho*

[digital meteor]

i get it, but thats the content it was trained on and is required by law to expose the sources. If i asked you to write a basic tailwind tempalte it would look exactly the same as if i asked an llm to do that

[proper girder]

Well obviously It wouldnt, because each writing style and layout is different

[digital meteor]

and here comes my analogy of an boiled egg

it works in the constraints of the framwork. so like 80% of it will look the same

[proper girder]

Yeah, which i said "heavily inspired"

😶‍🌫️

[lofty kayak]

Yup tailwind has those predefined colors/font-sizes/shadows/roundings :)

Usually those agents like to create the dark blue colored template with some yellow accent colors

[digital meteor]

even more so when you say its for "racing", "cars"

im working on an agent that reads your cfg files and can modify the car

so you just say : i want a drift ev and its gonna generate it along with tyres, tunning etc.

[lofty kayak]

Dunno about that. Last time it created that dark blue template for me when i created ui for my symfony profiler using vue and tailwind lol

[plush axle]

me when

[proper girder]

When

[digital meteor]

currently works off gemini api, but plan is to train my own model so it can run local with ollama

[tawny vortex]

is this ai tuning

[candid blaze]

oh no

[lofty kayak]

Is that just basically an md file that explains how the tuning config works

[digital meteor]

right now i've extracted and made a .db for every vehicle and options for tunning the above is just gemini cli interacting with it and creating new presets. It is not great as is since gemini XD but the plan is to train a small model on local presets ( top speed / rally etc. )

[digital meteor]

this is AI tjuning

[hushed ferry]

all this thinking for a simple greeting (local ai: qwen3.5-35b-a3b)

[digital meteor]

#smart

[hushed ferry]

just had it clean my system, cache, temp, windows bullshi etc

[twin tendon]

is it possible to make ai cars join a race and then compete in said race in multiplayer?

[twin tendon]

Is it possible?

[digital meteor]

admins can spawn ai as far as im aware, you can set them to follow / chase, or use script ai manager (f11)

but idk about Synchronization or server stability

but if you just want to record a drive and have them take it always the same path script manager

[gleaming rapids]

Yes I believe the game has everything needed to make this happen, but you're going to have to write something completely bespoke to make it happen.

[twin tendon]

thanks

[stone stump]

Im attempting to make a local that sees and plays games and 90% of the time is thinking for click here lol

[marsh ember]

For anyone wondering this is what the launcher looks like as a photo.

[hushed ferry]

Whats the app to do this again? I forgot

[marsh ember]

Its something I made.

[molten gazelle]

[molten gazelle]

that's a funny comment

[placid galleon]

My eyes

[sleek sentinel]

how do you convert an image to an mp3 tho?🤔

[digital meteor]

thats .wav but okay

[heavy temple]

didnt see that here yesterday, I converted it to .wav and then someone to .mid : #💬-general-talk message
#💬-general-talk message

and - obviously - @north depot tried this: #💬-general-talk message

[night sleet]

a person helped me play beamMP with just 2 clicks
you need to do it like this if you use mangohud mangohud needs beamNG to launch through steam
gnome-terminal -e "/home/(your system username)/beammp-launcher/BeamMP-Launcher --no-launch"

you need to this shenanigans for linux gaming

[empty plank]

This is so backwards, just make a desktop file to the main binary instead.
wiki.archlinux.org/title/Desktop_entries#Example_.desktop_file

[night sleet]

well here is the special thing i can simply make the launcher target the app but i need beamMP client to do no launch

since beamNG needs to launch with steam for mangohud to work

[empty plank]

Add the argument to the desktop file then

[fringe nexus]

just run it in terminal with that argument

[fringe nexus]

i kinda prefer terminal in case there are errors in beamMP

[empty plank]

They are giving advice for making a shortcut and suggesting launching the terminal and then running the command instead of running the command directly from a desktop file

[fringe nexus]

thats what i run

[empty plank]

bro look at this #💻-programming message

[fringe nexus]

thats a steam command tho

[empty plank]

You don't need the terminal

[fringe nexus]

its good to see the output if there are errors tho

[fringe nexus]

this is nice to have tho

[night sleet]

The deaktop launcher opens terminal and does that command all in one click

Instead of needing me to open terminal and copy paste the command

So i with just two click steam launches beamNG which enables mangohud to be able to see fps and stats and the launcher opens terminal and launches beamMP with special no launch command

[desert nacelle]

Hey,
for those one like to play with pseudo instead of generated guest name, i drop a simple mod just to make ability of players to set a pseudo and sync it to other client connect. It's probably bad & un-optimized (due to lack of time and knowledge about how beamMP/beamNG work), but i don't set any licence on it so have fun.
(Only tested on private server with 2 players, so i've no idea how it would be with more players and cars, it should be fine but just untested. Do not hesitate about the feedback, if anything wrong or could be improved )
Github link :||https://github.com/RAMBO-APEXPOINT/BeamMP_Nickname#||

[fringe nexus]

i just have an executable not a .desktop file

[night sleet]

i have the same thing mate and i do not have a .desktop file

oh wait it a .desktop

but anyways i have my reason for doing this

and i wanted to share

[fringe nexus]

i just type the commands, it takes like 5 seconds, and if i run it then it runs the game on the wrong gpu

its just cd BeamMP-Launcher, ./bin/BeamMP-Launcher --no-launch

[night sleet]

yeah but instead of needing to run the command every time you want to play in a short amont of time you can do it in 1 click

i click the launcher and it runs the same command

[fringe nexus]

unfortunatlely i dont see any ways to add that flag to the executable

[night sleet]

in the command section of launcher

[fringe nexus]

i would need the launcher to run this too

[night sleet]

not really you place launcher next to beamNG

[fringe nexus]

if i dont run that it runs on the wrong gpu

[night sleet]

steam shortcut runs the launch option

beamMP SKIPS the launch option

if you let it launch the game

[fringe nexus]

i dont have any desktop shortcuts maybe i should

[fringe nexus]

thats gnome im guessing?

[night sleet]

it says its gnome

[fringe nexus]

or is that cinnamon?

[night sleet]

cinnamon uses gnome mate

[fringe nexus]

you never know sometimes i use Xfce terminal

its pitch black instead of gray

[night sleet]

the average linux mint user choses cinamon and changes nothing about the system stuff terminal or desktop

[fringe nexus]

ig thats true

[night sleet]

default theme

[fringe nexus]

ive got kde

but i use xfce terminal

[night sleet]

we do not install our own kde or terminal or desktop we run the install app and that's it

[fringe nexus]

using apt?

[night sleet]

huh

[fringe nexus]

or flathub?

[night sleet]

flathub

[fringe nexus]

apt is the ubuntu package manager

[night sleet]

well both maybe not sure

[fringe nexus]

im sure it runs it in the gui

it asks for your password?

[night sleet]

yes

inside it has both apt and flathub

[fringe nexus]

interesting

[night sleet]

nothing or flathub

so nothing means apt?

[fringe nexus]

most likely

pretty sure on ubuntu its sudo apt update

for full system

[night sleet]

i am pretty sure linux mint knows how to use the more powerfull gpu

[fringe nexus]

what if there are 2 powerful gpus?\

[night sleet]

google it

[fringe nexus]

thats why that command is there

it offloads to the nvidia card that is more powerfull

[empty plank]

That is part of the purpose of a desktop file, a little bit like shortcuts on Windows you can add arguments

[night sleet]

doing it my way makes sure steam launches the game with that special command

[fringe nexus]

well i dont have a desktop file lol so i cant

[night sleet]

huh

[fringe nexus]

must be the way i built it

[night sleet]

you right click on the desktop

and create a launcher

its not hard

[fringe nexus]

id have to make a symlink in the terminal

[night sleet]

hold on

[fringe nexus]

dont really feel like it

[night sleet]

does your linux system HAVE a desktop?

[fringe nexus]

ofc it does its KDE

[empty plank]

That's not what a desktop file is

[fringe nexus]

then im stuck on the terminal then lol

[empty plank]

Idk why you can't do things normally

[fringe nexus]

because i built the application maybe?

idk what causes that

[fringe nexus]

i also have hybrid graphics

[empty plank]

Idk what that has to do with anything.

To make a desktop either right click on the desktop and "create launcher" or make it manually in a text editor.
wiki.archlinux.org/title/Desktop_entries#Example_.desktop_file

[fringe nexus]

im guessing arch applies everywhere?

[empty plank]

Yes

[fringe nexus]

still no option to change

[empty plank]

Well arch doesn't apply everywhere but the wiki itself isn't exclusive to arch

[fringe nexus]

lmao guess cant change in the file itself

[empty plank]

You're not supposed to modify the main binary

[fringe nexus]

even when i change it to a .desktop it doenst show options like that

[empty plank]

A desktop file is an entirely seperate file

[fringe nexus]

still dont have that

ill just keep using terminal

and i cant launch the game without steam anyways

guess launch options are a gnome thing

[night sleet]

go to general

[night sleet]

huh

[fringe nexus]

nothing in the other tabs either

[night sleet]

guess your linux sucks

[fringe nexus]

this my DE

[fringe nexus]

i like it

[night sleet]

i like mine simple install and aprently its better :p

[fringe nexus]

typing the command isnt that bad i already use the a lot like for steam and stuff

thats a lot of uneeded stuff lol

[fringe nexus]

i didnt really like mint, used it for only a couple days

[tawny surge]

Kubuntu is very great in my opinion

[fringe nexus]

ive heard awfult things about snap packages

[tawny surge]

Good ui, everything works as intended one thing is really annoying that i need to manually install different gpu drivers everytime i change the device which can be a pain if you do that alot

[fringe nexus]

terminal missmatch

wish kde had a full dark theme

[tawny surge]

Me too

[fringe nexus]

i just like how Xfce's terminal looks

[tawny surge]

Yes its quite nice

[fringe nexus]

im compiling rn

[tawny surge]

I would daily drive linux but i have a nvidia gpu, and i play tarkov so...

[tawny surge]

Alright

[fringe nexus]

yeah you would need a very stealthy vm

[fringe nexus]

its azahar the 3ds emulator

[tawny surge]

Wish i had that fast cores

[tawny surge]

Or more cores that would be fine too

[fringe nexus]

wish i had 16 cores tho

[tawny surge]

Me too, i have 8rn

[fringe nexus]

all 8 are at 5

[tawny surge]

I have them at 4.45 sometimes at 4.55 but very specific conditions

But that cache is really worth it when compared to 5800x

[fringe nexus]

im not too sure how increase them safely, i have some cooler headroom, would have to ask a clanker

[fringe nexus]

the cache is insane

[empty plank]

No, they're just messing around with the binary instead of making a desktop file

[night sleet]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fringe nexus]

I just looked lol

Nano is the best text editor

[fringe nexus]

It's just a de difference

[empty plank]

I'm pretty sure every DE has it
Right click on the desktop > create launcher

[fringe nexus]

i actually found it

still gonna use terminal

[sacred sandal]

Don't need 16 unless ur doing major productivity, 8 is better for gaming, like I do sim flying alongside beamng and like, random WoW games.

I have a Ryzen 7 9850X3D, and in my laptop a Ryzen 9HX370, and of course I prefer my Ryzen 7, but the 9 isn't as optimized for consumer. (this specific 9 is) but the 9, 9800x3d or whatever the ryzen 9's are, aren't

[fringe nexus]

even beam?

[sacred sandal]

even beam

stronger single core performance is what you want and the 9850x3d is considered the top of the line best gaming cpu

the 7 is upwards of 3% faster than the 9, the 9 is only there for like, 4k video editing, while streaming, and while watching a movie, and maybe 3d rendering at the same time lol

[fringe nexus]

i guess even it cant fully use my cpu, never seen more that 55%

[sacred sandal]

exactly

theres a reason why linus tech tips did a 7 9800x3d in the newest 5k tech upgrade over a ryzen 9.

[fringe nexus]

i thought that bc ive seen 1100's with the 9950X in bananabench

[sacred sandal]

banana bench? wtf lmao

What's next, Monkeybench

how do i get media permission

[fringe nexus]

thats beam's built in benchmark

[sacred sandal]

oh shi i gotta try that

[fringe nexus]

you can run it in terminal or in game

[fringe nexus]

thats what it looks like when you run in terminal/command prompt

[sacred sandal]

id send pictures if i had media permissions lol

OH I DO NOW

[sacred sandal]

is this better or worse? lol

idk what im looking at tbh

[fringe nexus]

MBeam/s

[sacred sandal]

Is mine better than yours? you have higher numbers

[fringe nexus]

its a little better but it makes almost no difference

it only affects how much traffic you can run

[sacred sandal]

Ohh okay

[fringe nexus]

multiplayer is more gpu heavy

[sacred sandal]

im lacking gpu wise rn

Getting a 5080 soon

2070 Super xc ultra + lol

[fringe nexus]

ive never seen 100% cpu usage but ive seen 100% gpu usage

[sacred sandal]

i only got up to 81% in bananabench

[fringe nexus]

me it only gets to 50-60%

[sacred sandal]

we are getting similar stats tho, and i have a well higher cpu lol

interesting

[fringe nexus]

its just not optimized lol

[sacred sandal]

Mine?

probably

[fringe nexus]

the game

[sacred sandal]

Ohh haha

[fringe nexus]

or my ram is too slow

[sacred sandal]

i have cl32

ddr5

[fringe nexus]

i think thats better cas latency

than me

[sacred sandal]

CL36*

[fringe nexus]

its 6000MHz ram

[sacred sandal]

yes

This is exactly what I bought, the cpu and ram alone cost more.

[fringe nexus]

wait how is it slower than my 7800X3D lol

[sacred sandal]

Wdym slower?

I boost up to 5.7 hz

[fringe nexus]

the benchmark

[sacred sandal]

Oh, I literally am not sure

I have discord and spotify open in vc? lol

[fringe nexus]

unless you're on windows and have stuff in the background?

[sacred sandal]

Im on windows, with discord and spotify open

Win11, But i run the Windows debloat github lol, which actually saves about 2gb of ram

I have an insane cooler for it too

[fringe nexus]

it still has tons of bloat that cant be removed from the consumer version

[sacred sandal]

i know it's awful

id do linux if I could play the games I play

( i would do SteamOS ) when it becomes a thing.

[fringe nexus]

just ran one with tons of stuff in the background and look at the difference

[fringe nexus]

90% of games run on liinux, except for kernel anti-cheat games

[sacred sandal]

welp cant do it

Arma Reforger

And warthunder

[fringe nexus]

a way around it to dual boot or a very stealthy vm

[sacred sandal]

seems like a lot lol

[fringe nexus]

yh i havent gotten looking glass working yet

you need to make a shared memroy file for the stream to work

[sacred sandal]

sounds like too much IT for me lol

[fringe nexus]

most distros have nice guides except for ubuntu

[fringe nexus]

stay dual boot then

[pliant creek]

Arma Reforger runs on linux

And War Thunder

I know as I've played both on linux; debian and arch

[sacred sandal]

with the kernel level anti cheat?

[pliant creek]

Seems so

It just launches via proton

And play

[sacred sandal]

Hm. What about obscure .exe's I need off the internet for who knows what

MSFS has one for a mod developer, controls all the mods

I just feel its not foolproof yet to be able to do EVERYTHING i can rn

[fringe nexus]

wine

[patent stag]

i know this is the complete wrong server for this but does anyone know a linux server where i can get someone to help me? i have looked everyone and cannot find anything

[plush axle]

#🔎-before-you-ask

[heavy temple]

what kind of help?

[patent stag]

i am trying to run bricklink studio on my chromebook with lutrix, again ik this si the wrong server but i saw you talking abt wine so thought there was a chance

[patent stag]

bascially whenever i download bricklink whatever i do it always comes up with an error

[heavy temple]

have you tried linux.chat discord? its not that active but there are some people with a lot of knowledge around

[patent stag]

i will have a look

thank you

[heavy temple]

np

[empty plank]

There is no Linux build so you need Wine or Proton

[patent stag]

i got wine, and i am currently using lutrix to download it but it gave this error

File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/lutris/exception_backstops.py", line 35, in wrapper
result = function(*args, **kwargs)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/lutris/game.py", line 687, in configure_game
gameplay_info = self.get_gameplay_info(launch_ui_delegate)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/lutris/game.py", line 626, in get_gameplay_info
gameplay_info = self.runner.play() # type: ignore[attr-defined]
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/lutris/runners/wine.py", line 1336, in play
raise MissingGameExecutableError(filename=game_exe)

lutris.exceptions.MissingGameExecutableError: The file /home/crazycat/Games/bricklink-studio/drive_c/Program Files/Studio 2.0/Studio.exe could not be found

Lutris log:

etc etc

[empty plank]

It takes a really long time to install

[fringe nexus]

is it open source?

[patent stag]

apologies, is what open source?

[fringe nexus]

the thing you trying run in wine

[patent stag]

it isn't, i am trying to run bricklink studio, but currently i am trying lutrix since wine didn't work

i got it to the point of installation and clickability but nothing happened when i clicked

[empty plank]

Idk man it just works for me

Arch
Wine 11.7

I didn't use lutris or any launcher

[patent stag]

on chromebook?

[empty plank]

Maybe try it through distrobox?

[patent stag]

alr i will, unfortunately i need to go shower ut i will be back in like 20 mins and try this, i really appreciate it

[empty plank]

np

[ebon iris]

hey what's that benchmark ?

[gleaming rapids]

https://www.reddit.com/r/BeamNG/s/nlQ94p0Cqd

[strong fox]

It looks very artificial

[gleaming rapids]

Ya

[twin tendon]

It’s cool

[gleaming rapids]

It's like pretty much what you were talking about right?

[lethal bronze]

HOW would i download this?

[gleaming rapids]

The author says it's not available yet, but if you read in that post, they share their discord link

[twin tendon]

ya i wonder how they did it that is what i wanted

[heavy temple]

oh man.. Carmageddon in beamng would be nice

[sleek sentinel]

what is that guys build in your pfp😭🥀

[lofty kayak]

Newest fillman video was hard to watch when you know so much about web dev 😭

[sour stag]

me who's spent like on average 8 hours a day working with it for the past 3 weeks

and actually understanding what the stuff does

and having multiple documentation windows open

I should probably give him the Angular documentation

that may be helpful

because from the looks of it I dont think he knows where to find it

[lofty kayak]

Yeah i think i linked him the vue docs in chat, but he didnt seem to be interested on them :D dunno if he looked at them later

[sour stag]

he isn't using vue as far as I can tell

[gleaming rapids]

using flowgraph is cool though

[sour stag]

flowgraph is voodoo magic for me

[lofty kayak]

Yeah at that part i think he was trying out playing with the beamng vue components

[wicked token]

just a question about setting up a server, its asking for me to input the same port as in the serverconfig.TOML, but im unsure where to actually find this, any help would be appreciated, cheers

[last spear]

this question could go in #📝-community-support and more users would see it, if this question is still unsolved.

[thin sparrow]

hey does someone know a way of integrating a discord bot with my beammp server?

[nocturne dagger]

gotta learn BeamMP plugins ig

[heavy temple]

maybe look at #💬-modding and scroll up, @drowsy dagger seems to know a lot about it

[fierce coral]

If anyone has any advice, i'm trying to make a mod in beamng that replicates the car my collegate engineering design team makes. I've never made a mod before but as of now I have nodes and beams for the frame all set up but cant figure out out to overlay my 3d model onto it. Any help would be appreciated!

[drowsy dagger]

Yeah i haven't made a regular racing gamemode.....yet but it is planned

[drowsy dagger]

Gonna work on a circuit racing game mode tonight

[limpid light]

dead channel

hi ppl

[elder swan]

SILENCE

[nocturne dagger]

hi

[subtle fjord]

hello

[outer cedar]

@drowsy dagger is your help man
But I also want to learn to

[drowsy dagger]

I do have discord -> game and game -> discord, game -> discord is much easier only requiring webhooks, discord -> game gets a lot more tricky requiring a discord bot running in node.js

[drowsy dagger]

I got bored and made this lol

[thin sparrow]

hey, so i asked claude ai to make a bot for me, but it did in a way that a python code writes a json file and the lua script reads it, then it can communicate between beammp and discord

[drowsy dagger]

Basically the same way I've got mine setup lol

[thin sparrow]

oh really haha

[drowsy dagger]

Yeee, game uses webhooks to go to discord, node.js bot that writes to a json file and Lua reads it from there

[thin sparrow]

and do you think that's efficient enough or there is a better way?

[drowsy dagger]

Pretty much no other way to pull messages out of discord other than a bot

It works pretty much flawlessly, gotta fix my join/leave hooks a bit but other than that it's been running for over a week with no issues

Got a server manager in python that will restart my servers if they crash, that's why uptime is different per server

[thin sparrow]

oh so you can manage a lot of servers with just one bot, right? i need this for my economy server that im making

[thin sparrow]

nice, i did that using a .bat

[drowsy dagger]

Yeeep just gotta specify what channels to listen/post to

[drowsy dagger]

Also manages the discord bot

[thin sparrow]

is it just one script that listen to all servers or you have to make one script to each beammp server?

[drowsy dagger]

One script, then you just add servers to it

[thin sparrow]

nice

[drowsy dagger]

Basically just pointing the manager to the server.exe

[scarlet latch]

is this channel for beamng/mp modding or just any programming?

[nocturne dagger]

any programming ig since there is #💬-modding

also I don't know how I'm meant to scan TSRs in DOS memory
I don't even know how the MEM program does that

[civic musk]

huh

[nocturne dagger]

you don't know how great the DOS era was lmao

[hushed ferry]

Help please, how do I fix??

[tawny surge]

You install a package called windows on top of ubuntu

[nocturne dagger]

that's called VirtualBox or QEMU

[rugged bolt]

does anybody know how to remove the nametags above the traffic cars?

whenever I spawn traffic (since im the host) the other players end up seeing my nametag above every traffic car that spawns like some shadow clone jutsu type sh

[fringe nexus]

Virt-manager the goat

[onyx brook]

Very good

[hushed ferry]

Help

[plush axle]

#🔎-before-you-ask

[hushed ferry]

It did it again

[nocturne dagger]

did bro think for two days just to fail an addition

the CPU would have done the addition with 100% accuracy in a billionth of a second

[fringe nexus]

skill issue on gtp 5.4

easy

[wintry ingot]

Guess his cpu is intel

[nocturne dagger]

Well
The ADD indstruction on modern CPUs takes only two cycles to execute while the frequency is now able to reach 5GHz
So your addition instruction really takes less than a billionth of a second

[wintry ingot]

5Ghz?

my cpu is overcloked at 9

[nocturne dagger]

5GHz has become normal speeds nowadays

[nocturne dagger]

what CPU do you have

14900KS ?

[nocturne dagger]

you do helium cooling or what
even on a 14900KS that's +3GHz

[wintry ingot]

intle = shit

i have ryzen 9 9950X3D2

[nocturne dagger]

the overclocking record was done on a 14900KF though

9.2GHz or sum

also at this rythm you're just gonna fry the CPU in one week

[wintry ingot]

ye not them dumping shit on it ryzne 7 9800X3D is still better in gaming

infact every X3D is better than any intel in same price range

ryzen 5 7500X3D = noly 200

[nocturne dagger]

Intel is cheaper for the same performance where I live

LGA1700 is much better than AM4

[wintry ingot]

its not

🤣

[nocturne dagger]

It is

Because while using the same DDR4 RAM you still get access to 14th gen CPUs

[wintry ingot]

who carse/

[nocturne dagger]

Me

A budget baller

[wintry ingot]

not intel making an i7 13620H

with 4 cores

🤣

what idiot designed that thing

or the 11620

like

oh an 11th gen? and its worse than the 10th

[nocturne dagger]

Idc about mobile CPUs

[wintry ingot]

ddr4 ram and ddr5 ram have no diffrence in cost here

[nocturne dagger]

You were talking about destkops so we stay on desktops

[wintry ingot]

suire

name me 1 cpu better than the ryzen 9 9950X3D thats not amd

N/A exist

[nocturne dagger]

Talking LGA1700 not whatever this uses

[nocturne dagger]

That's AM5 though

[wintry ingot]

still amd is superior

then ryzen 7 5700X3D

am4 X3D

[nocturne dagger]

Not when you're in a budget

[wintry ingot]

whats ubdget?

60

100

200

300

400

what amout?

[nocturne dagger]

Also X3D isn't giving you much in some games, sometimes its worse than the non-3D version

[nocturne dagger]

Also depends on the country
Try making a 1000€ rig in France

[wintry ingot]

same currency

for 1000 i get an ryzen 7 5800X3D with an 9060XT

[nocturne dagger]

Just because its the same currency doesn't mean its the same price

[wintry ingot]

then blakme ur goverment

[nocturne dagger]

Some stores don't exist abroad duh

[wintry ingot]

since when does amazon not exist

[nocturne dagger]

Wish we had Microcenter

[wintry ingot]

neither have that

i only have the road bump called belgium

between us

[nocturne dagger]

Amazon is crap sometimes though
And overpriced when you're looking for CPUs

[wintry ingot]

just bc an store overpices it does not mean intel is better XD

[nocturne dagger]

If I get an i9 for as much as a Ryzen 5 it will be better
The price matters
The 3050 was trash bc of the MSRP yk

[wintry ingot]

ur comparing an i9 withn an ryzen 5?

thats like comparing an 5090 with an 3060

[nocturne dagger]

Doesn't matter

If you get the 5090 for the price of a 3060 and its not a scam then it is better

[wintry ingot]

what i9 14900K?

[nocturne dagger]

Took the i9 as an example

[wintry ingot]

and price diffrence heard of?

we are basicly checking an midrange and high end cpu

with diffrent prices

[nocturne dagger]

Lemme get back on my PC and find a better CPU for the same price

[wintry ingot]

sure ryzen 7 5800X3D = 300 Eur

here

[nocturne dagger]

Idk how you get those prices
PCPP doesn't even have a price for it here
Amazon lists it at twice the price

told ya the country matters

and that stores overprice

[nocturne dagger]

just for your information

Intel wins

[wintry ingot]

well whoever amde that is udmb bc that l3 is important super important for gaming lol also its 350 eur here so that diffrence is 50 bucks clockspeed = invalid of that website its 2.7ghz till 5

also budget buuilds ussaly don,t have an big PSU

so the ryzen 7 5800X3D = superior in effiency check even the yearly running cost nearly 1,5x

[nocturne dagger]

L3 isn't that important for gaming

[nocturne dagger]

also I stopped understanding half of your website because your angriness made you have a stroke

[nocturne dagger]

TDP doesn't mean efficiency though
it only means at what power it will run on a sustained load at base clock

[wintry ingot]

back to school you og

L3 = super important for gaming

[nocturne dagger]

I know what L3 is thank you
but it only impacts 1% lows

[wintry ingot]

1% lows = only thing that matters

[nocturne dagger]

budget ballers want frames

[wintry ingot]

if 1% low = 44 and fps = 60 ur coocked

tons of lag

[nocturne dagger]

who cares abt 1% lows if you run at 20 fps

[nocturne dagger]

you underestimate how resilient I am
I play BeamNG on a school laptop with an AMD Athlon 7120U
and 8GB RAM

[nocturne dagger]

funny thing too
I also play BeamNG on my 7700K desktop and I get a buttery smooth 56 fps despite 8MB L3

and DDR3

[wintry ingot]

ye amd my ryzen 9 9950X3D2 with 5090 runs the game without even coocking

[nocturne dagger]

budget ballers generaly don't build PCs from scratch
the PSU is generally already there but the mobo RAM and CPU need to be upgraded

[wintry ingot]

thats lowkey on u

poor athlon

😭

[nocturne dagger]

well obv you don't know what a budget is if you're that rich

[wintry ingot]

i do 🤣

my budget pc cheapest one cost under like 200 bucks

amd FX 8350 8c 8t some motherboard i got on ebay for 15 bucks i tihnkn idk ram is just 4x4 gb and runs an solid r9 390x 8GB

[nocturne dagger]

our first desktop was a NEC WA1310 got for free from the university in 2011

nothing beats free stuff

[wintry ingot]

aint nec already dead?

[nocturne dagger]

it's a 2007 prebuilt

the whole setup I now have today started in the skeleton of that prebuilt

[wintry ingot]

oh im still using same case idk why

[nocturne dagger]

I still have the FDD and case next to me

[wintry ingot]

i still have a few ddr3 cpu

i think

an a8 6000 sries

[nocturne dagger]

the only things I spend heavily on are components that can be carried over to the next setup
that's why I have a Fractal Torrent now

[wintry ingot]

im still using this shitty box that looks like those new mac pc that cost like 20 bands

Lian Li PC-V1000

i did modify it a bit

bc my 5090 is kinda hungry

[nocturne dagger]

well you're wrong when we start talking turbo
the i7 performs as good as the 5900X with PBO and the 5800X3D takes much longer to finish with the same consumption

looks nowhere near 1.5x more

[wintry ingot]

then u need new eyes i geuss?

it says lower is better

[nocturne dagger]

nowhere near 1.5x more

[wintry ingot]

well either way its better 🤣

[nocturne dagger]

the time it takes however is substantially lower

for the same performance it therefore uses less power

do you need that I get you some math formulas to prove my point ?

I'm not even sure you understand math

my point has been proven anyways, I said it depends on the country and store, AMD is overpriced and inefficient so Intel is better where I live

250€ more for less performance and less efficiency is just straight up a bad deal here

and while I still remember the subject of this discussion, we invented a great way to improve frame pacing called VSync

it's so good it also removes the issue of screen tearing

[wintry ingot]

well still general price perforamcne amd wins

for ( you specily its 250 bucks more then sure that intel is better

but its not xd bc its not there at all

not even for sale 🤣

to bad

[nocturne dagger]

in my case your AMD CPU is not for sale on PCPP

[nocturne dagger]

look up on Amazon maybe ?

PCPP doesn't search themselves

I can still find the 5800X3D on Amazon for sale in France but it's 550€

[nocturne dagger]

AMD used to win with early Ryzens
but now Intel is winning back because DDR5 is wayyy too expensive in most countries and LGA1700 CPUs end up much more affordable compared to AM4

[wintry ingot]

Wdym ram peixss are same

Or off by 50 bucks

For some

[nocturne dagger]

cheapest 16GB DDR4 kit vs cheapest 16GB DDR5 kit

literally 140€

[wintry ingot]

Luck

Il buy that 90€ ram rn

[nocturne dagger]

no that's called RAMageddon

[nocturne dagger]

the next one in the list is 124€

[wintry ingot]

Ah thats 16G

I pay like 140€ for ddr5 and 130 for ddr4 16GB

[nocturne dagger]

but yh if "your RAM prices are the same" it's either that your DDR4 prices are as bad as DDR5 or you've not been affected yet by RAMageddon which is unlikely

[nocturne dagger]

here DDR5 is much more expensive but DDR4 seems to be cheaper than you then

but those DDR5 prices are normal in the whole world except you

[wintry ingot]

To bad dont need am4 if i can afford mord

[nocturne dagger]

mord ?

[wintry ingot]

More i meant

[empty plank]

You're rich dude

[nocturne dagger]

he's rich and then says he has a budget
but like
WHO in the world is gonna buy a 5090 and a 20€ case 😭

[wintry ingot]

My case i bought before most here existed

If ur 15 case is older

Case from 2004

But im planning for an hyte y70 infnite touch. Or the Lian li

[worn hazel]

Pov: when I win the lottery there will be signs.

[nocturne dagger]

bro we're not in 2020

I'm 16 so it is older