💬-modding

[normal bramble]

First

[karmic pecan]

second

[proud sundial]

Ur cringe

[karmic pecan]

you're*

[modest heart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1462224892140458240/1485104746602827786/vauxhall_FUCK_YOUU.gif

[proud sundial]

will be using that gif

[lunar breach]

OG claim right here

[long pendant]

Where the programming channel

[cursive moon]

no one cares brochacho

[lapis comet]

I just added

[long pendant]

I just released my list of all BeamNG car codes names is gone noooo

I think i have it saved somewhere else thankfully

[charred tulip]

@long pendant Hey its Zach from facebook i got a question

Sent you a Dm request

[ruby badger]

its not really hard to find though, its just content\vehicles

[long pendant]

ya but i already had them listed as names in a list all good tho cuz my script also has it still

[wraith sail]

wjat abt the goon room??

[earnest gale]

I'm pretty sure I'm remembering correctly but wasn't there like, a three wheel or five wheel stambecco on the BeamMP page? What mod is that from?

[solid knoll]

The when room?

[honest pelican]

There is not a current estimated timeline to BeamMP's return, Please see https://canary.discord.com/channels/601558901657305098/1487404122805370880 for what we know, and https://canary.discord.com/channels/601558901657305098/1488185488925004079 for updates as we have them.

[ruby badger]

sob, carlbot is active in #💬-modding but not #📝-community-support

[ruby badger]

documented three official beamng popup functions that look very pretty. once these are public on the beammp docs, i hope to see these in use soon!
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1436762458290389136/1488393662156115968/introPopupTutorial.png?ex=69cc9e1e&is=69cb4c9e&hm=f8a3930a45ae110dcf7859e7826e8313c014be415e2e997acbde206114948ef0&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1436762458290389136/1488393662931927101/introPopupCareer.png?ex=69cc9e1e&is=69cb4c9e&hm=175c0a67f1e8f02cff788e42baeab0b43bd4e6df981a9dda0a9b0396cb207aad&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1436762458290389136/1488393663561334844/introPopupMission.png?ex=69cc9e1e&is=69cb4c9e&hm=f726d42211cff98954f1201aa69b462efaf45ac8778771388c110fcd3482994d&

(please give us upload perms in here 🙏)

theres also these two. the second one, Dialogue, is smelly though.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1059327034251292805/1488396435241177108/ConfirmationDialog.png?ex=69cca0b3&is=69cb4f33&hm=c43bff825d099d71cb20ffa21ef2a88a2bcb0a0f61e163a2728a485a5053a5eb&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1059327034251292805/1488396435895357560/Dialogue.png?ex=69cca0b3&is=69cb4f33&hm=a9731e968c3a76ee01971c55a039b20bd7e184b4830b5166f9f6c9de8546d523&

[errant yarrow]

This is cool
I like how you use existing UI capabilities instead of building your own UI
It saves a lot of time

[pearl bronze]

Is there a good under glow mod because every one ive gotten just adds a light bar and doesn't shine any light onto the ground

[azure mesa]

Guys, does anyone have a good resource explaining/teaching how to make Automation suspension setup not shite? And the first person camera not shaking like crazy.

[long pendant]

My mod for the bashtion (the BeamNG dodge charger) does underglow properly

[long pendant]

Other than deleting the entire jbeam and starting with proper jbeam?

[azure mesa]

That can be an option, I suppose. Do I look up jbeam file edit tutorial?

[long pendant]

Idk what to look up other than BeamNG documentation

[azure mesa]

Fair enough, thanks.

[pearl bronze]

Do you have a mod for the d series and 200bx and the bastion mod is great thank you

[long pendant]

nobody else mad an undeglow mod?

made*

[pearl bronze]

All the ones ive found on the repository they dont actually emit any light for some reason

[fickle swift]

if yall need mods there is a website I found beamng(.)xyz

[last breach]

virus

just use steam workshop

[fickle swift]

nah it works great I havent had any issues with it

[rain trout]

is beam fixed?

[scenic marlin]

go check

[stark hollow]

hell nah dawg

[ruby badger]

should this be updated?https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1059327034251292805/1488688268940677232/image.png?ex=69cdb07d&is=69cc5efd&hm=0280de38060c8ed415063190aad772e148af420df5a08453cc582444606bafc4&

[tough oriole]

yo any of yall got the v1.4 of royals m2/

[ruby badger]

@lapis comet i wrote a basic ImGui tutorial, is it fine to replace the existing (empty) IMGUI Windows page? regardless, should tutorials be categorized differently than reference pages?

[lapis comet]

Hmmmm..... I don't have an answer for you on this one 🫣 Let's check with @visual spade in the morning (he's probably in bed)

[visual spade]

If its empty then ahppy to see what one can done otherwise 🙂

[ruby badger]

This page covers how to create a basic ImGui window.

Window Content

If you're new to writing ImGui, think of it as a distant cousin of HTML:

• im.SetNextWindowSize(im.ImVec2(x, y), im.Cond_FirstUseEver) defines your viewport size if it hasn't already been defined
• im.Begin() and im.End() is your <body> and </body>
• im.Text() is your <p></p>

no file upload perms 💔💔💔💔

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1487901078388215933/1488712675692122263/image.png?ex=69cdc738&is=69cc75b8&hm=00182b7c8e813126b7393902436a3da6489ffd4c725ed5060c9217728bb6f838&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1487901078388215933/1488713698347450398/image.png?ex=69cdc82c&is=69cc76ac&hm=3d1ae2a36075b7bd219c3c437c92d860567ea9c5cb856af81d4c58b5b4fd852d&

[ruby badger]

i too am github illiterate
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1436762458290389136/1488750294513746061/image.png?ex=69cdea41&is=69cc98c1&hm=a2fbe6cfb73d073659c2e473071e183c91de578eee1ec417d8904b4601d4da55&

[visual spade]

Quick scan over all of this looks great!!

[opaque copper]

working self hosted

github

/musanajam11/Decentralized-BMP

ty

[ruby badger]

beammp ddos edition

i wonder if codex ai from openai made this

that ui looks eerily similar to other codex-coded uis

[opaque copper]

100% ai.

But not that one

Never that one

[ruby badger]

stinky jeff from the moderation team praises codex at every opportunity

he says that if you talk to it like a 5 year old then it performs better

which makes zero sense

[opaque copper]

It’s only good for making web pages I wouldn’t trust it with much else. U can barely trust the good ones as is

[ruby badger]

also he gives it beamng/beammp files so that it knows what it can do

[opaque copper]

For sure have to expose agents to full repositories and give them massive context to do anything slightly right

[ruby badger]

of the ~3 code snippets (individual functions) hes given me when i ask him (codex) as a last resort, all of them have actually worked as intended on the first try

[honest pelican]

me when

[ruby badger]

it does get stuff right a lot of the time for him, and he does pretty complex things with it

[opaque copper]

Fair. I have functional and ethical concerns with open ai and prefer some open source self hosted models along with opus 4.6

[opaque copper]

Tbf codex does allot better than the usual gpt they offer but I still don’t trust it with a full project like I do opus 4.6 working alongside self hosted models

[opaque copper]

I don’t do this. I give it a very wide array of permissions in a vm, an instruction set and a way to play the game on its own then wait for it to send me a version ready to test notification on telegram.

[bright frost]

🚬

[ruby badger]

are you waiting for others to comment like on the previous pr?

[visual spade]

sorry just busy getting things online, will get back to it again once done 🙂

[rose storm]

Hi guys, it posibile to enable bus routes to a map that not support it, like via a mod?

[charred tulip]

Would end up having to do the map editing before buses would work

[icy apex]

yo how about a no hesi server configs for mods like for example how the saleen is for the barstow IV or the vela for the ccf etc

[vernal turret]

Why cant i start my server i have my ip loaded my name its on private and a random auth key and it says "Auth key not found

[honest pelican]

Currently Keymaster is not online. At this time, you'll simply need to run your servers as private and provide your friends with the Direct Connect info (IP address & port) to join.

[ruby badger]

rahhh my impatience is screaming

"just merge it!!!" my impatience screams

[rose storm]

I found a fix to do it from a mod, but they need to rewrite bus mode, is so bad right now.

[charred tulip]

Ah

[lilac sapphire]

Can you do mods in the private server atm?

[ruby badger]

yes

[ruby badger]

how do i disable beammp client mod checking? i wanna use a local unpacked version of the mod so i can edit some ui and see it in-game

[bright frost]

Basically you need to run the BeamMP launcher shortcut with the --dev flag so the mod isn't downloading, and you need to work with the BeamMP mod unpacked

[ruby badger]

rahh i use steam on the main beamng appid to load the game w/ the launcher, time to not do that 😭

balright

optimal workflow

[ruby badger]

ty it works

i hate how with modModules uis that you have to restart the game to update them

but whatevah

[bright frost]

Do it to it

Glad you can work on it unpacked

[ruby badger]

rainless coding begins

🥶

[bright frost]

The whole thing

[ruby badger]

All of it

[bright frost]

Maybe even a little extra on top

[ruby badger]

For sure extra on top

[ruby badger]

its so crispy when the background matches the bng top and bottom bars

[bright frost]

Hey

Check this out

https://github.com/BeamMP/BeamMP/issues/747

[ruby badger]

LMAO WTF

[bright frost]

Have fun

[ruby badger]

lmao still a bug

[ruby badger]

idk why the font size increased so much but im gonna try to use more of the beamng classes like bng-button-attention and whatnot

you can see the ones i missed 😭

i think also making them not hard uppercase will help a lot

[ruby badger]

there we go

it looks kinda stinky rn but i got the bng header thing working

[bright frost]

Do you think you can make it so guests have an actual standard profile picture instead of a broken image reference?

IDK how any of this works btw

I assume all html and js but I don't really speak those well

[ruby badger]

probably

[ruby badger]

for a dynamic profile picture probably html/js

if it was static it'd be css probably

interesting

main menu stuff

saving this to add later

[bright frost]

This is all too sensible

[ruby badger]

ok

[bright frost]

Keeping it pushing

[ruby badger]

oh wait i know why it stopped previewing images

larger than 10mb will not preview

the 28kb image:

[ruby badger]

here you go
-# idk if it works properly when an actual image is given... gotta wait for auth to come back

[bright frost]

that looks stock to me so

[ruby badger]

gotta refine the buttons a bit cause i broke the title case thing on it

and also idk what i wanna do with the server list quite yet

should i make it use the newer icon set or keep it using the existing material icons?

[ruby badger]

there we go

[bright frost]

Okay

bare with me on a quick sanity check

No capital cases here on the main menu

None in here

but then yes, all of these are

[ruby badger]

that's what cef md-button does by default

[bright frost]

to me

[ruby badger]

and cef is old ui

[bright frost]

this is a slam dunk

[ruby badger]

the main menu is vue/ new ui style

[ruby badger]

it gets better because now it reads it as-is from the locales instead of being forced to Title Case

(yes direct connect is wrong, no it's not my problem)

[bright frost]

well then the locale can be fixed

[ruby badger]

but what about the other locales that i dont knoww

i mean i can fix english ig but

[bright frost]

don't sweat it we have translations is what I meant

so not your issue

it's stylistic

[ruby badger]

?

[bright frost]

you mean

hang on

[ruby badger]

meanwhile the other 4 buttons with two words have title case

[ruby badger]

\ui\ui-vue\src\assets\fonts\bngIcons\svg

the same new set used in the vue-based Messages ui app

and also a lot of career menus

all these icons are from that new set iirc

[bright frost]

I use these

they're sick af

why was the color on that so bad lol

there we go

with a little imagination this set has every icon for every gameplay you can come up with

[ruby badger]

rahh i forgot

i must go on the grand adventure of finding where to put the variable definition

[bright frost]

you can specify ANY of these to be used with a MP.SendNotification(player_id, message, icon, category) from the server to the client btw, which I think is not documented in the docs

[ruby badger]

i think it is

[bright frost]

not on this page?https://docs.beammp.com/scripting/server/latest-server-reference/

[ruby badger]

truth nuke

i was wrong

[bright frost]

:rappatronic:

that page is a mess

[ruby badger]

i might swoop in and add some fat usage of tabs

PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE

‼️

[bright frost]

🚬

[ruby badger]

rahh using md-icon is more standard but its also slightly too wide

[bright frost]

justa few more whitespace bro, it'll fix it I swear

just....

yknow

align

open excel and just change the word wrap

[ruby badger]

I HATE YOU

[bright frost]

[ruby badger]

https://giphy.com/gifs/instagram-viral-nazoom-BKw04PbLlfOl2tzrwO

[bright frost]

hold up let's do the side by side again

jesus christ

I like option A

again, looks stock

[ruby badger]

i love using the base beamng styles

which btw

the current official beammp menu

is actually stock too

but its the old CEF defaults

[bright frost]

ohhhhhhhhhhh

that's what it is

well

we're due

[ruby badger]

💪

the extra padding on the left is a ltitle eh but holy shit that looks good

[bright frost]

OK, real quick

how do those look if you change up this

[ruby badger]

will check in a sec

[ruby badger]

oh my god i hate this but it looks good

720p

[bright frost]

Honestly not awful at all

[bright frost]

Got so tall it required a scroll to see logout on the left

But like

[ruby badger]

those buttons have no bottom padding btw

so itd be even worse

@bright frost actual visible tab navigation in the server list

[bright frost]

You said you don't use gamepad I think but making it more accessible is huge

I'm a huge accessibility nerd

[ruby badger]

helps tab navigation too on keyboard

[honest pelican]

Currently Keymaster is not online. At this time, you'll simply need to run your servers as private (with something random in the Auth Key field) and provide your friends with the Direct Connect info (IP address & port) to join. See #beammp-updates message for some frequently asked questions.

[ruby badger]

xd

bro literally shut up

[ruby badger]

laggy ass ui cant do a cool fadeout effect

it just skips rows

😭

[bright frost]

That the server list has decent performance at all is a miracle by @median sentinel

[ruby badger]

not the fault of beammp

i think

[bright frost]

Oh it certainly was at a point

Today you can scroll the server list free spin on a mouse wheel pretty much fine

Used to be that thing would GRIND

[ruby badger]

oh yeah I did want to try making it only load servers that are actually in view
does it add it all into the dom at once or only what is visible

[bright frost]

That stuff I don't know

[ruby badger]

you can see the full caps in the buttons of the mod manager btw

[ruby badger]

and I also made tab/controller navigation visible in the actual server list

@visual spade I'd love to hear your thoughts on this updated server browser UI I've been working on!
patreon "ad" mockup: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1487498713579651223/1489774137382535179/image.png?ex=69d1a3c9&is=69d05249&hm=1b6565bdb745e8e57b404daa1cf57aed53654c542d645a89622174795a56e986&

Also, I'm considering merging the patreon support "ad" into the patreon button on the sidebar and making it highlighted by default
like:

• if you don't have EA it's colored a contrasting green and maybe has a small subtext asking to donate
• if you DO have EA, its just the normal patreon button like it is now

[median sentinel]

I have a pr that improve it too but tbh i prefere yours it fit the game better

[median sentinel]

Its a custom thing i made it render only thoses that are in the view and the rest is just fake height to keep the scrolling

But the server list is too small for now to have any performance impact

[zealous valve]

I'm not an UI guy at all, but with the old and the new it looks to be like all the icons are slightly lower than center compared to the text? Made me itch, but maybe it's suppose to be like that?

[ruby badger]

the previous icons had the same issue I think
I could try fixing it but things like that are usually just trial and error for like an hour lol. it's something for later down the line as last minute polish

[ruby badger]

ooh, what did that look like?

[median sentinel]

https://github.com/BeamMP/BeamMP/pull/841

the screenshot isnt updated tho

but i havent got back on it in a while so if you can cook something better it could be nice

[ruby badger]

I'm trying just that right now lol. mine breaks a little at lower resolution, the biggest issue is that the sidebar has to scroll because of the increased button height, and that the bottom padding of the buttons disappear

both of those are with the sidebar

[ruby badger]

what do you think of this idea?

[median sentinel]

try and see how it look

[median sentinel]

i have a little cheatcode to make it work on any resolution with javascript it rescale the page depending of the screen

so you only need to make it perfect on one resolution and it scale it for any

but i never tried with very large screen

[ruby badger]

beamngs newer ui styles use em a lot and it seems like it scales really well

[median sentinel]

did you start all from scratch?

my issue was that removing some angularjs component broke the resizing somehow

[ruby badger]

no, I just switched some classes around and changed the way the button icons are done so that I can use my own file path. i have a useful CSS variables page pending a merge on the docs which documents quite a bit of the stuff that I'm using here

[median sentinel]

oh okay ! you should do a pr for this

on the beammp mod

[ruby badger]

that is my plan :)

[median sentinel]

good :3

[ruby badger]

:D

https://tenor.com/view/spinning-green-thumbs-up-emoji-emoji-thumbs-up-spinning-spinning-green-emoji-gif-17967997718123316139

[median sentinel]

gonna review that personnaly

[ruby badger]

oh yeah, when and how did you get the contributor role? is the contributor role specifically one that doesn't require applying for it? if it is, then what is the criteria for becoming one?

because I have been contributing to docs and when this UI redesign is ready then I'll also likely have contributed to the client too

[median sentinel]

i assume its tixx that give this role? i forgot but you could ask him i think u already have the criteria

[ruby badger]

I'll keep that in mind the next time I see him around

I think he's replied to me talking about my contributions lmao

[errant yarrow]

I got it automatically as soon as my RP was merged. Before I got it I didn't even know it existed
it's a badge of appreciation nothing more than that

[narrow wigeon]

guys can someone help me to get keymaster key?

[charred tulip]

Don't need one for private servers

[ruby badger]

oh, i already have had one pr merged and one is approved waiting to be merged, i should have contributor then right?
and yeah i wasnt expecting much for how easy it is to contribute but purple looks nicer than 💩 brown

[stable pebble]

is there a way to pull road spline nodes for setting up point to point distance tracking instead of just using straight line distance?

[ruby badger]

@lapis comet can i have contributor role pretty please 🥺

[summer crystal]

What do I need to do to get a specific car implemented into the game? Is it possible?

[ruby badger]

what colors were you thinking for the public/featured/partnered server highlights?

[ruby badger]

this is what i meant by that btw

[bright frost]

Better without the one at the top probably yeah

[ruby badger]

that area is pretty empty now though

[bright frost]

News ticker

[ruby badger]

elaborate

[bright frost]

Like a scrolling marquee of what's new in BeamMP

[opaque copper]

rss

[ruby badger]

🧐

[ruby badger]

this is so pretty

[stable pebble]

I got timed out trying to post my touge UI lol

[rugged osprey]

One of these things is not like the other

[ruby badger]

should i update the patreon logo svg to the current one on their website?

[bright frost]

I mean....

[ruby badger]

that goes to show how old the current server browser ui is LMAO

[ruby badger]

this looks SO ASS oh my god

[bright frost]

Yeah uh

IDK about that lmao

[stable pebble]

It needs paint splotches on the tray, seems way too basic lol

[visual spade]

Are you doing this in Vue or the Angular way?

[modest heart]

Don't even bother on that 🥹

[ruby badger]

Angular

I believe it's still really difficult, or impossible to make Vue mods. The last time I saw a Vue mod, I think it overwrote the compiled Vue files, which I don't think would be optimal for compatibility to put into BeamMP

I am looking at Vue based UIs in devtools and taking their specific colors and whatnot though

like rgba(var(--bng-cool-gray-900-rgb), 0.5)

or something

[ruby badger]

it's a badge of appreciation nothing more than that
it overrides slowmode at the very least

hmm, why doesn't beammp use beamng's official translation strings?

[boreal osprey]

I got a couple of mods for cars

But I don't know how I can use them

I could just look on YouTube for that but I'll probably forget so if anyone could explain this I would appreciate it

[ruby badger]

FAHH

[magic fjord]

@boreal osprey Still need help?

[ruby badger]

ts pmo tixx

now my ui update is out of date

[bright frost]

Just wait until you get into pushing and popping styles

[ruby badger]

the markdown thing didnt work

[bright frost]

Markdown, more like letdown

[ruby badger]

@bright frost how do i get rid of this top class? its breaking the fill colors of the buttons

[bright frost]

😭

No idea

[green ice]

so im screwing around with the new large rollers engine to make it faster and stronger. i am successful but the engine went invisible. i also messed around with the hydraulics and the govenor. anyone know why?

[ruby badger]

https://github.com/BeamMP/BeamMP/pull/876

[boreal osprey]

Yes

Im at work atm

[errant yarrow]

Server list not loading

[ruby badger]

go to search filters and select a map

then clear the filter

• Potential issue: I had one instance where the map(s) filter glitched and prevented any servers from appearing until filters were cleared. I can't seem to recreate this though.

i think its trying to restore search filters from your last session

and the previous session used a string for the map filter

but now it uses an array

so the JS freaks out and doesnt end up listing any servers

@median sentinel

You may need to use <button> instead of <md-button> it will probably fix every issue you have with the buttons

with the overwritten styling yeah, but now its missing some styling :/ surely it won't take that long to fix...

[errant yarrow]

I think I know what the source of the problem is, I'll go through the code when I can

[ruby badger]

wtf its between 0.25em and 0.2em

why beamng why

0.375em my ass

[ruby badger]

pumpkin patreon is not fixed

pumpkin patreon is now fixed

LMAOOOOO

so

doing this

fixes https://github.com/BeamMP/BeamMP/issues/747

by sheer force of the universe

oh that looks so much better

existing ui's beammp logo:

i do need to crop it though, right now its 1:1 and that makes it look bad in basically every case where its used

wtf

beamng just stole my devtools

i cant use devtools anymore ?

even after a restart

nvm it was because i was in exclusive fullscreen

[muted juniper]

Friends, where can I get a keymaster to create a server?

[honest pelican]

Currently Keymaster is not online. At this time, you'll simply need to run your servers as private (with something random in the Auth Key field) and provide your friends with the Direct Connect info (IP address & port) to join. See #beammp-updates message for some frequently asked questions.

[ruby badger]

its insane how well this holds up

[bright frost]

Honestly an achievement at that small window size

[ruby badger]

everything else offs itself but hey the login page works LMAO

ok tbh not evne that bad

i mean just ignore the top bar of the server list

but like

i deem it usable

[bright frost]

480p users rejoice

[ruby badger]

watch as i open the server connection popup and it all crumbles

(it doesnt even work fully at 720p)

holy shit the filters popup works

oh, theres not e ough space for it to even try to display a modlist
so it WORKS BETTER THAN 720P

this HAS to be ragebait

[bright frost]

Crushing it

[ruby badger]

i just need to fix the cancel button being clipped

bro my ui works better than the official stuff 😭

[bright frost]

if clipped then
  noClip()
end

[ruby badger]

😭🙏

[ruby badger]

fun fact

the regular login page doesn't use the password input element attribute

meaning it displays your password in plaintext

guess who didn't realize this and typed his beammp account details as a joke into the regular login page while screensharing

[spare birch]

well it's a good thing we'll all be forced to change our passwords when accounts come back

[ruby badger]

the true password breach was ourselves

[spare birch]

i lol'd

[ruby badger]

wouldnt it be l'dol

xd

[ruby badger]

@bright frost im trying to get rid of the errors in the console for an invalid source by doing this, but it now just returns nothing. why doesn't the html (or angular) see the JS function?

[bright frost]

hmm

[ruby badger]

formatBytes works btw

[bright frost]

so when you say it returns nothing

would you put a debug print before your return so you can tell if JS is happening?

[ruby badger]

phrased it weirdly, but i also said " why doesn't the html (or angular) see the JS function?"

as in, the js isnt being ran

so nothing is resolved in html

[bright frost]

hmmmmm

[ruby badger]

like, it ends up as ng-src= which because its empty that attribute is deleted afterwards

ends up like this

if i put it outside of an element like that "Public Servers" text then theres just no text line at all

[bright frost]

which js is this

[ruby badger]

multiplayer.js starts at 1105 but these havent been pushed to my PR yet

[bright frost]

OK so

[ruby badger]

but the function is defined in $scope at line 1105

[bright frost]

which controller

[ruby badger]

its at line 1105

MultiplayerServersController

https://giphy.com/gifs/rah-scaryfaceinc-skeleton-8OgZyXwljMPo1Cl4dg

wild wild guess

[bright frost]

OK

[ruby badger]

it needs to be in MultiplayerController

[bright frost]

I am now looking roughly at the same stuff

OK so what about like

[ruby badger]

🤯 (this is the fallback image i set the JS to use)

[bright frost]

ignore my line numbers

so like

that and

is that viable?

like, I know it's supposed to functionally be the same or whatever

[ruby badger]

whats different about that?

https://giphy.com/gifs/confetti-thenseven-how-it-be-rXQ5Aex4FZiej6sKTZ

i got it to work just by moving which controller it was in

[bright frost]

well then I was way off track

carry on

and it should be clear then that I don't know enough to be helpful around html and js

[ruby badger]

sob no one around here is

but hey you put me on the right track at least

[bright frost]

OK so that makes sense

wrong controller

you were placing it in the serverlist controller, and the stuff on the left is not the serverlist

imgagine if the beamng ui wasn't a glorified website

[ruby badger]

imagine if vue

all the icons are back now

and they are MUCH cleaner in the html

and theres no errors in the console!

[bright frost]

The day BeamMP is not putting html/js errors in the console is a day to celebrate

[ruby badger]

yo

[ruby badger]

i just did that

there was also a regular src where there should have been an ng-src and so that was causing the errors related to flags

which i found and fixed

so yeah

server list has 0 console errors now

[bright frost]

Yeah I bet that was doing 404s

[ruby badger]

it was, but it did load correctly

hence the 404, and then it working anyway

[bright frost]

So lol is that like one frame's worth of 404 before it can resolve?

[wanton plume]

Ngl I'd be down to use your custom Beammp ui

[ruby badger]

we're working on getting it merged to the actual mod

[wanton plume]

Oh! I deadass had no idea 😭

[wanton plume]

I'd be down to test run it and stuff if needed

[ruby badger]

@median sentinel here you go

[median sentinel]

Niceee also theres a long standing issue where some stuff are not translated, is it something you could fix at the same time ?

[ruby badger]

i don't really do translations, but the server details buttons (Connect, Add Favorite) use translation strings now, so they could be translated

[median sentinel]

Like the connect and favorite button

oooh perfect then

[ruby badger]

i'll add translation strings for the search button and the search filter placeholders

[median sentinel]

nice work on this ! cant wait to be able to actually see the server list not empty tho 😭

[ruby badger]

i merged someones fix for it so it should fix it

[median sentinel]

gonna try tomorow

[ruby badger]

the issue was that the variable type for the map search filter was changed and doesn't get converted, so when it tries to use a previous value, its now the wrong type and errors

[median sentinel]

Yeah i ran through a similar issue when optimizing the server list

For the local storage serverlist, theres probably still the condition in the code i think

🫡

[ruby badger]

i think that was fixed

[median sentinel]

yeah

that was an issue before merging the pr anyway

[ruby badger]

i just added translation strings for the search bar, and the search filter dropdown placeholders

[ruby badger]

i think the last ones without translation strings is the direct connect page and the regular login page

will do those and then commit this

[median sentinel]

Uhhh this one have the connect and save to favorite correctly translated, you can use the same key for the other i guess

[ruby badger]

i meant just the text fields not the buttons

the buttons are already okay

[median sentinel]

I mean the connect and favorite here are not or maybe you updated this now

[ruby badger]

they use translation strings but they don't have a french translation

so it's using english as a fall back

[median sentinel]

But they are the same as there and there its working

So its like theres 2 translations strings doing the same thing and one isnt translated yet anyway so i guess you could use the one that translate for both

Idk if you understand my english isnt that fluent

[ruby badger]

two buttons with the same text can reuse a translation string

and i already do that

ohh wait

i see what you mean

[median sentinel]

🥹 finally

[ruby badger]

the add/remove favorites buttons dont really have a translation string to reuse

so those will still be english for now but the connect button is translated now

[median sentinel]

How the favorite is translated here then?

[ruby badger]

its written slightly differently

but it wouldnt make sense in the server details menu

[median sentinel]

Oh okay

weird

[ruby badger]

Save as Favorite when its been set as Save Favorite

[median sentinel]

yeah and if it isnt it show remove favorite

[median sentinel]

Maybe they was both separated because of this slight difference but i still find it weird

[median sentinel]

The localisation and titre is still looking weird tho

french is annoying with the long words 🫡

[ruby badger]

should i add tags to the actual server list?

right now they are only a search filter, and hidden behind a menu because of that

so i dont think a lot of people know about them

[median sentinel]

I think you should update the way the server details are showing

And implement that too, i can show you a screen of a try i did with the ui rework i tried

[ruby badger]

show me

[median sentinel]

it was just a design i tried it isnt finished

but its enough to get an idea ig

But im quite bad at design anyway 🫡

[ruby badger]

i could reuse what i did in the search bar area

[median sentinel]

yup

cook something

Its important to get the tags in the details i think

And maybe that if you click on the tag it automatically search by that tag

[ruby badger]

maybe

we probably need more tags to use too

these are all the current ones

[median sentinel]

I think you can put any tags on a server even if it isnt in that list tho

[ruby badger]

oh

[median sentinel]

i think that's just for the filter

to prevent it being 2km long i guess

[bright frost]

I'm sorry are we talking about making server tags work??

https://tenor.com/view/awesome-minions-excited-gah-i-cant-even-gif-10657390862009213425

[bright frost]

Yes the idea was, there are some predefined tags on the client side, but servers, can tag those or write their own, and for custom tags, it will require tag search input

[ruby badger]

@median sentinel @bright frost

i don't know why the description text is so far away though

[green ice]

yo whats development team?🤔

[ruby badger]

programmers, i assume

[median sentinel]

yeah that's what i thought

[median sentinel]

nice !

[ruby badger]

oh you havent seen the latest version, gimme a few seconds

it looks a lot better

maybe a few more seconds i just remembered the player list doesnt work

[median sentinel]

damn

[ruby badger]

hahaha i had it set to use the player count not the player list

thats why it wasnt working

[median sentinel]

😭

[ruby badger]

and with a lot of mods

[opaque copper]

gauging interest: Assetto Corsa style content manager for beam.

[median sentinel]

is there a need for a content manager on beam?

it just look like an unofficial beammp launcher to me

😭

[opaque copper]

Peripheral monitor content mainly like live gps and editing car configs and mod management and server instance management. Server list is a fairly small part of this and its beam mp agnostic. it works for third party backends and the non beam mp based mp clients also.

[median sentinel]

why not i guess but why the asseto corsa style

[opaque copper]

Because that’s where content manager came from

[tired turret]

[ruby badger]

HI

[somber stratus]

hey i just downloaded the polish roads mod into my beammp server and its missing alot of grass textures anyone know how to fix it alot of the grass is orange boxes

[ruby badger]

clear cache

if that doesn't fix it then maybe the map is broken

[somber stratus]

@ruby badger how would one do that on assetto hosting

[ruby badger]

do that on your beamng, not on the server

[ruby badger]

@median sentinel can you check if my latest commit solves the x overflow problem?

i really do not know how to recreate the bug you have so its hard to fix

[quasi zodiac]

Has anyone tried CareerMP with RLS?

[opaque copper]

all ive played recently

[quasi zodiac]

RLS runs good on MP? just curious

[opaque copper]

not on its own no, theres compatability patches being worked on that make it work though and progress on those is going really fast

if you're only looking at WestCoastUSA, the UX is pretty seamless atm imo

[quasi zodiac]

hmmm interesting i just added CareerMP on my server and was looking into adding RLS into it

[quasi zodiac]

by chance do you have any links with more info?

[opaque copper]

https://github.com/PapiCheesecake/rls_careermp

i think working with .18 for CareerMP, maybe working with the newest but i havent tested it yet

[errant yarrow]

I think you'll find the best information on the official CareerMP Discord

[quasi zodiac]

didnt know they had a server will look into asap thank you guys for the help!

[errant yarrow]

I will send you a link in DM

[quasi zodiac]

bet thank you

[ruby badger]

@median sentinel

[ruby badger]

@bright frost thoughts on the latest iteration of the server browser? it has received another surrounding layout change

[bright frost]

Superclean

[median sentinel]

i'll check everything tomorow ! But everything look very very good on thoses screens 🫡

[ruby badger]

is backdrop-filter the only way to blur the main menu background behind an element from CEF/angular?

because if so thats really annoying

because its laggy af

[opaque copper]

backdrop-filter: blur() — the native, GPU-accelerated approach. Works well in CEF/Chromium.

Duplicate + filter: blur() — clone or duplicate the background behind the element (e.g., with a pseudo-element or a second <div> with the same background), apply filter: blur() to the duplicate, and clip it with overflow: hidden. More markup, but works in older engines.

SVG <feGaussianBlur> filter — define an SVG filter and reference it via filter: url(#myBlur) on a duplicated background layer.

Canvas capture — render the background area to a <canvas>, apply a blur algorithm (or ctx.filter), and use it as the element's background. Heavy and rarely worth it.

[ruby badger]

so

backdrop-filter

makes the module run at like 8 fps on my machine

duplicating the background would be possible and thats actually what ive kinda been doing

ok it works but i think angular wants to explode

[ruby badger]

this needs to add caching for optimizing the JS side of anyway

@bright frost @errant yarrow calling yall to help fight the vue demon

[opaque copper]

ur calling getComputedStyle 100 times/second

*var lastBg = null;
var fancySync = setInterval(function() {
$scope.$evalAsync(() => {
var target = document.querySelector(".background-image");
if (target == null) return false;

var bg = getComputedStyle(target).backgroundImage.replace(".jpg", "_blur.jpg");
if (bg === lastBg) return true; // nothing changed, skip DOM writes
lastBg = bg;

var blurs = document.querySelectorAll(".mp-fancy-blur");
for (var i = 0; i < blurs.length; i++) {
  blurs[i].style.setProperty('--mp-fancy-blur-src', bg);
}
return true;

});
}, 10);*

or

var target = document.querySelector(".background-image");
var observer = new MutationObserver(function() {
var bg = getComputedStyle(target).backgroundImage.replace(".jpg", "_blur.jpg");
var blurs = document.querySelectorAll(".mp-fancy-blur");
for (var i = 0; i < blurs.length; i++) {
blurs[i].style.setProperty('--mp-fancy-blur-src', bg);
}
});
observer.observe(target, { attributes: true, attributeFilter: ['style'] });

[ruby badger]

I know I am. That's why I said it needs to be optimized. Cache was the first thing that came to mind as a Lua guy not a JS guy
Still, the main issue is that it isn't in sync and isn't clipped right

[opaque copper]

position: fixed escapes overflow:hidden

[errant yarrow]

I never touched the vue code
when I needed to change something, I handled it through the lua layer that manages it

Suddenly I realize they merged our scripts channel with the modding channel LOL
I think it's time to bring back the scripts channel

[zealous valve]

I was told #💻-programming is the new #scripting...

[median sentinel]

it doesnt, but i can screenshare you the issue when you can if you want to see it better

[visual spade]

Hey @ruby badger I just want to say thanks for all your doing here, its looks amazing and cant wait to see it raised as a PR and made available to all to enjoy! Sorry if my replies are spotty, I'm rather busy :/, feel free to DM me for specifics when you need me

[errant yarrow]

ServerWelcome updated to version 2.0.0

What's new

• Moving to Direct Discord Link Method

The Discord link has been upgraded from a BeamNG proxy to a direct link via the BeamMP API
https://github.com/5DROR5/ServerWelcome

[ruby badger]

it is currently a PR but there's still a pretty long list of subtle issues I want to resolve before pushing it out to everyone

[opaque copper]

is anyone fluent in any of these languages and willing to look at a json file rq.

[ruby badger]

is this for beammp translations?

[opaque copper]

dw about it

unless u know one of those languages then pls do

[karmic pecan]

Deutsch

[opaque copper]

Fr? Can u look at a json for me?

Quick once over type thing

[karmic pecan]

Okay

[opaque copper]

same but these ones? Anyone pls and ty

[ruby badger]

k thats fixed, but the delay issue is not

so even if i optimized it as-is itd still look like garbage

see, very delayed

very performant on my machine too surprisingly

[opaque copper]

Switch ::before to position: absolute and negate the parent's viewport offset so the background still aligns with the page background

[ruby badger]

?

i did that

Switch ::before to position: absolute and negate the parent's viewport offset

the blurred image and the real Vue background are aligned

[ruby badger]

the issue is that i cant detect the incoming vue background so it only updates once the incoming background has fully faded in

[opaque copper]

.mp-fancy-blur {
position: relative; /* or absolute — needs to be a containing block /
overflow: hidden; / now actually clips the child */

&::before {
    content: '';
    position: absolute;               /* NOT fixed */
    top:  calc(-1 * var(--_blur-y));
    left: calc(-1 * var(--_blur-x));
    width: 100vw;
    height: 100vh;
    z-index: -1;
    pointer-events: none;
    background-image: var(--mp-fancy-blur-src);
    background-size: cover;
    background-position: center;
    background-repeat: no-repeat;
    transition-duration: 1000ms;
}

}

function syncBlurOffsets() {
document.querySelectorAll('.mp-fancy-blur').forEach(el => {
var rect = el.getBoundingClientRect();
el.style.setProperty('--_blur-y', rect.top + 'px');
el.style.setProperty('--_blur-x', rect.left + 'px');
});
}

var observer = new MutationObserver(function() {
var target = document.querySelector('.background-image');
var style = target.getAttribute('style') || '';

// grab the LAST url() in the inline style — that's the incoming image
var urls = style.match(/url\(["']?([^"')]+)["']?\)/g);
if (!urls || urls.length === 0) return;

var incoming = urls[urls.length - 1]; // last = incoming
var blurBg = incoming.replace(/\.jpg/, '_blur.jpg');

syncBlurOffsets();

document.querySelectorAll('.mp-fancy-blur').forEach(el => {
    el.style.setProperty('--mp-fancy-blur-src', blurBg);
});

});

var target = document.querySelector('.background-image');
if (target) {
observer.observe(target, { attributes: true, attributeFilter: ['style'] });
}

var bgTransition = getComputedStyle(target).transitionDuration;
document.querySelectorAll('.mp-fancy-blur').forEach(el => {
el.style.setProperty('transition-duration', bgTransition);
});

• in JS, set the offsets whenever layout changes
• getComputedStyle(target).backgroundImage returns the resolved value, which during a transition is indeterminate. You're always one step behind.
• Read the incoming CSS variable directly from the inline style
• match the transition timing

[ruby badger]

are you using AI to write these responses?

[opaque copper]

yep 2 local LLMs

[ruby badger]

🙄

[opaque copper]

they ran a whole version of ur ui

and it looks great

took like 8 min

[ruby badger]

the mutation observer code has multiple errors but like whatever i fix them

you can't be bragging about using ai when its wrong in the most basic ways multiple times in one pretty short function

[opaque copper]

bragging?

[ruby badger]

which btw a couple months ago i thought the contributing guidelines for the beammp client required no AI use

[opaque copper]

im not contributing to the beammp client

[ruby badger]

yeah well i am and you're trying to give me code

that is made with ai

[opaque copper]

yes its funny

[opaque copper]

u asked

[ruby badger]

i did not ask for code that would break the contributing guidelines as of a couple months ago

[opaque copper]

dont use it then im sure ul find another way

[opaque copper]

u asked me and im not tied to those guidelines

[ruby badger]

are you aware how big of a piece of shit you're being right now

personally don't return to this channel if you're going to just reply with ai written code and laugh at anything else

i'm in this channel to get support from a human being. if i wanted ai to do my hobby for me then i would use the ai myself

useless code

and i fixed it myself

[ruby badger]

51.7 hours logged on working on the server browser so far 😭

[opaque copper]

u asked me specifically and you already knew my answer would likely use 100% ai.

#💬-modding message

[median sentinel]

when you provide ai code try to at least make it clear, peoples can thought that your sending code that is working and has been tested, as someone that also need help sometimes i would be quite annoyed to receive broken code that is intended to "help"

[opaque copper]

i tried to not provide any code and just point out the issue but he pressed me for details

[median sentinel]

where did he ?

[ruby badger]

because i thought you actually knew what you were doing

because you were replying to a help question in a modding channel

[opaque copper]

no i was replying to a direct question tagging me

i was just asking for translation help

[opaque copper]

#💬-modding message

[opaque copper]

yes i did volunteer that time

[ruby badger]

#💬-modding message
no, i did not tag you

[opaque copper]

🤷‍♂️

[ruby badger]

and i'm 99% sure that VERY first response was ai generated

[opaque copper]

no, 100%

all of it

[ruby badger]

yeah so literally from the start you're just posting ai responses in a modding channel that's meant to be human to human conversation

again

if i wanted ai to do my hobby for me, i would use ai myself

i'm in this channel because i want a human to help me

[honest pelican]

#🔎-before-you-ask

[ruby badger]

I am going to melt you in a pot of acid

[median sentinel]

dont melt patate !

[opaque copper]

dude u asked me and u knew i would answer with ai

ur being dramatic

[median sentinel]

justmusa he said he thought you knew what you was doing, not that you was using ai so he didnt know at that time

[ruby badger]

because i thought you actually knew what you were doing
because you were replying to a help question in a modding channel
your first reply was AI generated. i had NOT tagged you

[median sentinel]

and you should know that if someone ask for help he doesnt want an human to do the bridge between an ai and him

[ruby badger]

i only started tagging you because you had replied to my first question on your own, so i figured that meant you knew what you were doing

[opaque copper]

did you see the msg i tagged? first interaction ive had with this person was me telling him my moded backend for BeamMP is 100% ai. ur reaching

[median sentinel]

no i dont see where

[ruby badger]

still

[opaque copper]

also if u thought i knew what i was doing the ai's advice must be pretty good

[ruby badger]

if you don't know what i'm talking about, then why are you posting ai responses to a help question

[median sentinel]

an impression isnt a reality

[opaque copper]

i dont contribute to BeamMP, this person does.

#💬-modding message

thats them knowing i only use ai^^

Its their responsibility to source code well, they asked me thats their responsibility. Not me

ur both reaching rly hard imo

[ruby badger]

dawg, you don't know what you're talking about, why did you reply to my question about backdrop-filter in the first place

that is where this stemmed from

and you are just avoiding that point because you know you're in the wrong for that

[opaque copper]

weird, i dont feel in the wrong

[ruby badger]

yeah that's YOUR feeling, and you're also the one who posted it

how about the feelings of others for a change?

[median sentinel]

anyway its enough i think, just try to keep this channel for the right usage and thats all ? no need of drama and its always good to remind that you are using ai for thoses particular responses even if you told it a couple days ago. so you know if the person your talking to is okay with that or not for what he is doing

[opaque copper]

🤷‍♂️ Just an engineer, dont usually deal with people with feelings.

[opaque copper]

never once have i ever tried to hide that im using ai

[opaque copper]

its assumed they are okay with it because they knew i used only ai and still seek my help again rly reaching here

ur impression that i know what im talking about even though i clearly stated my project is 100% ai < verbatim, is not my problem.

[ruby badger]

still seek my help
i'm not debating this anymore.

[opaque copper]

🤷‍♂️

that one wasnt even ai, just google.

[median sentinel]

i dont think the beamng cef is gpu accelerated

[opaque copper]

shit ig ur right they turned it off in 2019 cuz it was buggy

[median sentinel]

how is the performance difference ?

if you can see one

[ruby badger]

roughly the same, cef is so laggy i honestly just caring about the lag

[median sentinel]

yeah it really is 😭 last time i checked the main menu blur for the buttons was made using image that was blurred

maybe the beamng dev did that for performance

[ruby badger]

yeah they have pre-rendered blurred images

[median sentinel]

yeah, when i saw that i found it quite weird

[ruby badger]

the current release version of the server browser feels like dinosaur ui now 😭

[median sentinel]

and they show the small button part of the blurred one on the button and the rest is hidden, but i feel like the performance could be even worse like that no?

[median sentinel]

yeah i cant wait for your ui to get pushed

but i still have the weird scrollbar issue

even the y one

[ruby badger]

ui fps feels about the same

[ruby badger]

i cant recreate this on my system 😭

[slender pulsar]

When will the login feature be activated?

[ruby badger]

1920x1080, french right?

[median sentinel]

Yeah but it do it with english too

[ruby badger]

actually theres two french languages for me
french community and french (france)

[slender pulsar]

ok

[ruby badger]

french official?

[median sentinel]

yeah

if you click on official server

you dont have a x scrollbar that appear ?

[ruby badger]

french community also doesnt have x overflow

nope

have you redownloaded the latest commit i made

[median sentinel]

wait im gonna do that

[ruby badger]

it doesnt overflow on 720p either

[ruby badger]

WHY 😭

[median sentinel]

its really the focus visible that do that for me

[ruby badger]

can you open devtools and show me that

[median sentinel]

that?

it add that before

and i think its this that add the width

[ruby badger]

why tf is there a ::before there 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[median sentinel]

idk

its since 0.38

[ruby badger]

thats the latest commit right?

[median sentinel]

yeah

i did a git pull before launching

[ruby badger]

you could also just download zip maybe

idk how github works

i think those should be equivalent as long as its pulling to your mods\unpacked folder

[median sentinel]

yeah but i git cloned your repo

it work the same

so i have your latest change

So it apply this class to any clicked button and add a ::before to it, and disappear if you click anywhere else

idk why the frick that thing even exist but its here

[ruby badger]

that sounds like an md-button thing

which i fixed a while ago

[median sentinel]

no i dont think that class apply to the md button

[ruby badger]

idk, im not getting any ::before elements

[median sentinel]

rly?

for example if you click on featured, you dont have this that come ? :

[median sentinel]

i really dont understand 😭

[ruby badger]

can you check the html file of the beammp client you downloaded

are they md-button or are they button

[median sentinel]

its button

[ruby badger]

in the html file not like in devtools

[median sentinel]

yeah it is buttons

i have the right version dont worry

but theres def something going on

[ruby badger]

what styles does your #left-menu div have?

[ruby badger]

ours are the same 😭 and yet yours goes beyond max width and mine doesnt

[median sentinel]

yeah because for me it add that little shitty class and not you :v

i dont know what is the thing that add it

[ruby badger]

try using this exact version

this is the one thats on my pc

like no github at all

i dont get it on russian either

also should patreon, discord, and github be translated?

cause those are company/product names

[median sentinel]

no i dont think

[median sentinel]

same thing

[median sentinel]

its not about langage

[ruby badger]

https://tenor.com/view/coke-coca-cola-jumpscare-gif-25304471

[median sentinel]

just add a

.theEntireMultiplayerModule .focus-visible::before {
    content: unset;
}

it fix it

in case some other peoples get the issue

[ruby badger]

try that

i just committed with that one change

(i didnt even test it LMAO)

[median sentinel]

i try

i tested it lol

issue fixed

[opaque copper]

https://github.com/musanajam11/BeamNG-Mod-Registry

[opaque copper]

😩

[green ice]

whats dis?

[opaque copper]

Tool working with repo In tool above. See link above

Hope mod authors esp for server/client mods will pr to add their metadata. Result will be one click assurance your mods work the first time and better ux around beam in general

[ruby badger]

in gelua, how can i get the current number of connected clients on the server? justmusa do not answer

MPVehicleGE.getPlayers() only lists players that have vehicles spawned

also, is there a way i can give players "nicknames" that show up in playerlist/chat too?

or like append stuff to their username

[slate spear]

do anybody know how to use mapNG.com website beam map creator ? ? id like to make a multy zone map . 3x3 x 8192 of my location

i can't figure out how to generate more than 1 tyle

[bright frost]

FWIW that's gonna be absolutely massive, does a single section export at the largest size not cover what you need?

I've used it minimally, and had good results with the smallest size selection, at one location

I'm sure that if you took multiple exports they could be put together in the world editor with multiple terrains, but it may also take manually handling folders and filenames etc.

[bright frost]

I can't remember exactly the way but I am certain @errant yarrow knows

[slate spear]

i kind of live lost in a farm field .not much arround

[visual spade]

This is an interesting idea!

[visual spade]

Would recommend changing the logo for something of your own though

[visual spade]

Uhh, I think we have a table that contains this kinda info, its how we send it to the UI. I think its in MPCoreNetwork off the top of my head

[ruby badger]

Neverless DMed me a solution and it requires modding the corenetwork lua to make edits to it before it goes to the ui

[clever sundial]

might sound stupid but I gave chatgpt beamMP mod, launcher and server and its made up some improvements but I am not sure whether it will actually improve it so if someone who understands the code of beammp then if you want I can send you it.

[opaque copper]

Gpt should only ever make web pages

[opaque copper]

so is this, waiting.

⏰

[visual spade]

What do you mean by waiting?

We do have plans for a friends system, yes

[opaque copper]

⏰

[visual spade]

Well unforntunately its held up by us getting things back in place currently. The new accounts system when it launches may come with it from the get go but we will have to see

[wanton plume]

Bonjur, titch

[visual spade]

Hey

[wanton plume]

Hope your day/evening is well broham

[opaque copper]

best of luck

[opaque copper]

https://github.com/goauthentik/authentik

[opaque copper]

https://github.com/authelia/authelia

[visual spade]

Oh thats a nice idea for while we work on getting things back!

[ruby badger]

looks like this

[visual spade]

I like it 🙂

[ruby badger]

0 moderation for it though lmao

it is just a alphanumeric filter and character limit

[ruby badger]

itd be really nice to be able to set a player's nickname from the server and use that in place of their username

also, where is MPConfig.setNickname() actually used lmao

ive only seen it used in logging

[visual spade]

Part of systems with the launcher, should also be called in MPCoreNetwork

[visual spade]

With a little work you can do just that

[ruby badger]

contributing wise or server script wise?

[visual spade]

server script wise

[ruby badger]

you have peaked my interest

[visual spade]

Well we have the event ssytem that you can call from both sides so you can call an event from the server on a client to update a table containing the usernames you want for them and do it that way

[ruby badger]

yeah i already do that

[visual spade]

Oh okay

[ruby badger]

but the issue is that to display them in the player list/chat

would need to edit the player list/chat that comes with beammp

because they dont display prefix/suffix or have nickname support

[visual spade]

Oh, odd, I've seen it work in thr past too so not sure

[ruby badger]

i have no idea how [STAFF] or [EA] works in the player list, ill have to stare at the code for another 10m

but im assuming its based on auth-provided roles

[visual spade]

Uh, I dont recall of the top of my head on that one

[ruby badger]

or... not. its based on shorttag of the main role the user has

custom roles wouldn't work here but i can easily just override the main role

for the chat its more difficult though

this requires that the sender's sent username matches whats on the receiver

if it doesnt then it falls back to what is prefixed in the message content

oh wait

nickname is used as the fallback

wtf

so if i just set the username to garbage this would work??

[ruby badger]

if the username in the message content does not correspond to an actual player, then it uses that message content username

if it does correspond to one, then it uses that username + the main role's shorttag

🥀

client sends message as c:<nick>: message

server sends out as <auth name>: message im assuming

and then the client ui code gets player object from auth name

[hardy merlin]

You can do all of this client side, except the sync of the playernames

--[[
  ["player name"] = String (Chosen playername)
  eg. guest22355234 -> Rainless
]]
local PLAYERS = {}

And then as already explained in dms, you just mitm the UI module. You check for what comes in and replace it

[errant yarrow]

MPVehicleGE.setPlayerNickPrefix() works for nametags only — chat is not affected.
For the playerlist, you need to override BeamMP's playerlist app files directly and
inject your data manually. It's what I did

[hardy merlin]

That looks dope

[errant yarrow]

The changes required are really small
https://github.com/5DROR5/PIT/tree/main/Resources/Client/UIMPIT.zip/ui/modules/apps/BeamMP-PlayerList

[ruby badger]

i'd really prefer not override beammp code if possible but from the looks of it i might have to

i could also mitm on the server side

on chat received, cancel, take the player id and message, and then call a client event to everyone with that message

then tell the chat ui to add a message with that value

but that may have incompatibility with chat commands

[hardy merlin]

You can send the playerlist from the server yes, but cant show it in the ui because its all called from within beammp code

And i mean its just a temp solution so idk how hard you want to make it yourself

[ruby badger]

im a perfectionist

[hardy merlin]

Ok you have two solutions

both require patching

either patch lua

or patch the ui

or ok you could also add your own ui sure

then no patching required

[ruby badger]

for the chat i can do the server-side mitm

for the player list it might require patching tbh

[errant yarrow]

There is an advantage to a custom user interface in that you don't have to worry about changes to the beammp UI

[hardy merlin]

If you want to be perfect then you catch the chat on the server and a list of all players and send it to each player. then on the client you add your own ui for the playerlist and the chat

[hardy merlin]

Exactly. no change to any bit of beammp code would affect you

I would be lazy to solve this. i would just mitm beammp given its just temporary

[ruby badger]

you're not addressing my solution for the chat though, to catch messages on the server-side with the onChatMessage event, cancel them, and send my own client event to everyone
then my clientside mod sends its own message to the chat uis, with a custom sender

[hardy merlin]

Yeah what is the issue with that?

Thats a perfectly fine solution

[ruby badger]

UHM

??

@hardy merlin it is possible lmao

[bright frost]

@ruby badger u cookin

[ruby badger]

wanna know how i made it update

truly, DIABOLICAL stuff

refreshing the server browser

that way it gets new playerlist from the launcher

[bright frost]

Hmm, what kind of behavior if the multiplayer option to allow the server list to refresh while connected to a server

[ruby badger]

thus updating the whole chain

thus it refreshes the player list

thus detecting the role

[ruby badger]

i dont care about that im just gonna refresh it myself from lua

[bright frost]

Sure, but like, would that data have been available in the situation where that setting was enabled?

Since it would be passively refreshing in the background?

Or

[ruby badger]

i mean yeah but it doesnt refresh automatically very often

[bright frost]

OK, just curious

That setting hits performance anyway

Better if people don't have it enabled usually

[ruby badger]

its only gonna hitch when a nickname updates

so not very often

[errant yarrow]

Adding a column is so easy and simple and also looks much neater to the eye, I think it's worth it 🤔

[ruby badger]

i refuse to override beammp stuff

[errant yarrow]

logical

[ruby badger]

ok lowk i might have to um

it seems like the server browser refresh button just calls MPCoreNetwork.requestServerList()

[bright frost]

Doing this while keeping in mind auth will return and certain new aspects will need to be deprecated once it is is no small task

[ruby badger]

it just uses cache data?

so how tf is that refreshing it when in a session

sending B myself just disconnects me too

[errant yarrow]

On second thought, all our mods are some kind of bypass of the game LOL

[ruby badger]

send b does work in the main menu

oh interesting

enabling refresh server list ingame

and then opening the server browser to refresh it

disconnected me

I GUESS IT WORKS

OK THEN

WHATEVER BRO

[ruby badger]

i got it working for all three, nametags, chat, and playerlist

and i'm not overriding any beammp code

[hardy merlin]

@ruby badger Since your a perfectionists, imma give you a quick dive into how to avoid luas garbage collector from stuttering the game. In case you didnt know yet, any object you create in lua (that is any kind of table, be it a vec3, a quat, or even a string (thats a table too!) etc) must be cleaned up by the garbage collector once nothing is referencing it anymore

local function something()
    local vehicle = be:getPlayerVehicle(0)
    local veh_pos = vehicle:getPosition()
    
    -- ...
    
    -- end of func. vehicle and veh_pos are giving up their ref to the vehicle and vec3 object.
end

The gc in lua cleans objects whenever it feels like it (we have no control over it), its usually every few seconds. And the problem is that the gc acts blockingly. Aka it stops the lua thread from running until its done.

So even something like this

local string = ""
for i = 1, 1000 do
    string = string .. i -- this creates a new string every time
end

causes alot of garbage. Or to put it into numbers

local function dirBetweenVehicles()
    local vehicle_1 = be:getPlayerVehicle(0) -- ~500kb
    local vehicle_2 = be:getPlayerVehicle(1) -- ~500kb
    
    local veh_pos_1 = vehicle_1:getPosition() -- 200 bytes
    local veh_pos_2 = vehicle_2:getPosition() -- 200 bytes
    
    local dir = (veh_pos_1 - veh_pos_2):normalized() -- 400 bytes
    
    return dir -- 200 bytes
end

So this one super simple math operation costed us 2Mb. And with already objects that have been optimized to have a small footprint. ColorF, ColorI are super offenders. Imagine debugDrawer:drawSphere(vec3(0, 0, 0), 1, ColorF(1, 1, 1, 1)). Lots of waste. So if your game should be stuttering in any capacity then its most likely a lua mod (you can see it in the perf graph, its a yellow spike marked as luagc). In your case, you said you are causing a request of the serverlist. Should you do that frequently then the json it gets is causing waste!

However there are ways to mitigate that! And thats by using tuples and caches!

local VARBUF = {}

VARBUF.dirBetweenVehicles = {vec3(), vec3(), vec3()} -- we are caching 3 vec3 objects
local function dirBetweenVehicles()
    local veh_pos_1, veh_pos_2, dir = unpack(VARBUF.dirBetweenVehicles) -- 0 bytes
    
    local vehicle_1 = getPlayerVehicle(0) -- cached variant of be:getPlayerVehicle() -- 0 bytes
    local vehicle_2 = getPlayerVehicle(1) -- 0 bytes
    
    veh_pos_1:set(vehicle_1:getPositionXYZ()) -- 0 bytes, because ...XYZ() returns a tuple!
    veh_pos_2:set(vehicle_2:getPositionXYZ()) -- 0 bytes
    
    dir:set(veh_pos_1) -- 0 bytes. Doesnt return `self` so we cannot chain the methods.
    dir:setSub(veh_pos_2) -- 0 bytes
    dir:normalize -- 0 bytes
    
    return dir:xyz() -- 0 bytes
end

This is what the game devs want us todo. see also here https://documentation.beamng.com/modding/programming/performance/#avoid-garbage-collection

And now you have been infected with this knowledge too!

[ruby badger]

In your case, you said you are causing a request of the serverlist.
it is once per frame that has any role updates. roles are only updated when they need to be updated

so if 5 people get a role change in 1 frame then its 1 server list request

and that only happens once for those 5 peoples' role change

[hardy merlin]

=D

[ruby badger]

as for literally anything else in that script? may god help you

[hardy merlin]

Purpose of this is more to infect you with knowledge. its a thing that once it creeps into your mind you cant unsee it

[ruby badger]

i kinda already thought about it in severe cases but i had not actually read anything on gc in beamng

[hardy merlin]

Everytime you create any kind of object you will be like "do i really have to? can i cache that?" and that alone while hard at the start will help you optimize your code. And doing that allows you to do really big stuff

This thing here for example is zero gc. Its drawing over ~10k cubes, each with 2 vec3 objects and 1 color object. so 30k objects are used every frame https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIcnMCPB5IE. It runs at 60fps. if i wouldnt follow the zero gc philosophy this would break the game

Well im limiting my game to 60fps tbh

[bright frost]

I learned to reduce string concatenation and it improved my garbage collection issues!

I've got a long way to go still

But knowing there's GC to avoid

Is unlearnable

[hardy merlin]

Use

local Buffer = require("string.buffer")

local string = Buffer.new()
for i = 1, 1000 do
  string:put(i)
  -- or string:putf("%s", i) for string.format stuff
end

0 gc

well until you drop the buffer

[bright frost]

Hell yeah

[hardy merlin]

luajit is really cool

Olrosse had figured that sending data to another vm using udp sockets caused less gc then using the game own cross vm methods

[tidal wigeon]

question
how would one make a leaderboard ui that tracks a player's air speed trip computer or just total km and display it in a leaderboard

[hardy merlin]

turns out its 50k objects per frame because i swapped from the debugDrawer to ffi.C.* drawers as they are much faster. but since all is cached, its super fast

[opaque copper]

😩

[opaque copper]

❤️

[wild hill]

how to download and create a beamp server

[ruby badger]

https://docs.beammp.com/server/create-a-server/

[honest pelican]

Currently Keymaster is not online. At this time, you'll simply need to run your servers as private (with something random in the Auth Key field) and provide your friends with the Direct Connect info (IP address & port) to join. See #beammp-updates message for some frequently asked questions.

[bright frost]

https://github.com/StanleyDudek/freeRoamMP/releases/tag/v0.0.12

https://github.com/StanleyDudek/CareerMP/releases/tag/v0.0.22

[bright frost]

AHA yeah this is what I meant!!!

[opaque copper]

219-320

[opaque copper]

oh ya and this also so that makes more sense.

[scenic sand]

Hi. Umm cann anyone convert picture.png image to what would work in as beam ng heightmap.png?

It should not be a big job, but i don't understand about textures and stuff.

[hardy merlin]

The game uses greyscaled heightmaps, if what you have is not that then you have to either find a converter or most often have to convert it yourself

That requires knowing what you have ofc

[scenic sand]

yes im looking a way to convert my existing png to that, but need help

i don't know how and ive been searching a way and with gaea and blender it's possible, but i dont know how. I tryed, but couldn't get it to work

[ruby badger]

if your image is a color image and doesn't have any height data then that image can't work for a heightmap

[ruby badger]

hmm

wonder who wrote this lmao

[hardy merlin]

Uncertain if that was me. its a habit of mine to not check for things that are guaranteed to be there and so essential that i want a fatal if its not

But i learned of these from olrosse, so maybe he did

Thing with the normal debug drawer is that its advanced text drawer suddenly couldnt draw in front anymore

so we had to switch to matter what