help

[winter crystal]

E2 provi asap

[honest estuary]

Should i try to upgrade Jaye

[urban sleet]

Anyways raise base slaves, upcoming event has a 5 star e2 ticket if I am not wrong, use that on provisio

[woeful zodiac]

go to #bot-spam and type /baseskills, get the list to e1. and ye proviso e2

[formal shadow]

he's useful every once in a while but he's cheap so why not

[urban sleet]

E2 jaye harms his tp skill iirc

[reef zinc]

I mean only 3 months...

[honest estuary]

Ok

[formal shadow]

you can phase him out w/ better teams i think

[nimble kite]

SilverAsh and ZuoLe easily replace Chen and Mud.

[honest estuary]

Imma up Arene too

[urban sleet]

You would still be more likely to use him in tp than battles these days, though I could be wrong

[slate ridge]

E1 alr does which is sad when people cant use his S2

[random shard]

With ops available today I doubt he has THAT many use cases that can't be replaced but back in the day when Jaye was good for a map he was GOOD and worth the base loss

[forest sorrel]

Sorry, still confused on Krooster's planner. Does the amount of blue mats above include the amount needed to craft the purple and gold mats below or does it only include the amount needed to skill level operators?

[nimble kite]

I guess they're needed both to requirements and to craft.

[sly sigil]

Yes, those blue mats include what you need for crafting. The ones to the right of the << show what can be crafted up from white/green mats, meaning you wouldn't have to farm them. Like you can just craft up the 11 iron instead of farming it

[cursive jackal]

Guys, i have question about what operator i have to upgrade for up coming event, can someone suggest me? or maybe i still have to use low rarity?

[urban sleet]

Show us everything

[cursive jackal]

Please wait

[forest sorrel]

That's neat then. Thanks a lot

[nimble kite]

Haruka and ZuoLe. Not only for event, but for every general content.

Ifrit, Doro and Rosa is kinda an option.

[urban sleet]

Speaking of rosa how good is she with her module

[proper robin]

ifrit also good to upgrade, her range and res shred is niche but very useful in some maps

[inner bramble]

yo chat what's Mon3tr's usual skills?

[nimble kite]

The old one is already good. Additional DEF ignore makes her pierce bulky enemies. Moveover with more damage.

New one is kinda whatever imo.

[proper robin]

btw you should upgrade dps first so zuo le first if you can

[urban sleet]

I do have an e2 rosa lying around

[fathom nest]

Instead of sending a ton of images please use krooster.com instead

[nimble kite]

Then ModX3 makes her even better.

[cursive jackal]

I think these are the ones i'll be using for now. They may not be high rarity, but that's what i wanna try.

[fathom nest]

That also works ig

[urban sleet]

.

[nimble kite]

S2.

[fathom nest]

Wait why did you send only your 4 stars?

[urban sleet]

Ye what others said, zuo le & haruka, zuo le first
Ifrit doro rosa are considerable

[nimble kite]

Show us SixStars too.

[gray mulch]

Are you 4 star only player?

[quick jolt]

i think they wanna play 4star only

[inner bramble]

Oh? People don't use S3 a lot? alr

[sweet blade]

how many healers does surtr s3 need

[fathom nest]

Their squad pic beforehand says otherwise

[nimble kite]

When boss with high stats or DR comes, she will shine with S3.

[fathom nest]

3 is the minimum, with 2 of them being limited

[quick jolt]

depends on the healers. i believe you can go as low as 3

[sweet blade]

limited unob?

[urban sleet]

Suttr hospital but sure 3 minimum

[quick jolt]

not unobtainable just annoying to get and not worth getting

you can do 2 healers if you use exualt s3 🤫

[fathom nest]

Shu and Eyjalt s3, with CE

[cursive jackal]

So it's good not only because their not event exclusive but also is usable for any content?

[gray mulch]

Does that count tho

[quick jolt]

sure, why not, still like 95% uptime

[silver smelt]

isnt it 4? lumen haruka mon3tr eyja2?

[nimble kite]

Yes, which you SHOULD build all ops like that...

The more cases op solves, the valuable he becomes.

[quick jolt]

shu and CE would be better than lumen mon3tr, and idt haruka/eyjalt (one of the 2) are needed

[cinder stag]

just how much better is sakiko s2 compared to thorns?

[woeful zodiac]

-# for this level of cluelessness.. is it 🪴 or just one of the end of spectrum

[quick jolt]

not a comparison
and s2 isnt even her main skill

[fathom nest]

You do need someone between the skill cycling

[split sphinx]

No windup, sakiko shred

[fathom nest]

I know Eyja works, but I'm sure Haruka would probably do fine too

[cinder stag]

i c, is her range the same as him? on s2

[quick jolt]

by default no but it can be

[cinder stag]

wdym

[quick jolt]

(this is not worth it) her band members can act as range extenders for her

[split sphinx]

S2 sakiko is ddefault lord range

[woeful zodiac]

hit 1600 hps and surtr will live

[nimble kite]

Note can travel by serpentine. Reaching the tiles she cannot reach normally.

[quick jolt]

and also yeah her notes can travel outside of her range

[rain forge]

If her range is overlapping with her bandmates ranges then her bandmates range is counted as her range too

[cinder stag]

but her notes travel a bit further than lord range, right? is it like a bit of thorns range?

[split sphinx]

Just let surtr die gng 🥀 the dmg is not that good

[rain forge]

so you can potentially have a global range sakiko

[quick jolt]

she can probably on average reach further than thorns

[gray mulch]

It's for fun, not for meta

[cinder stag]

damn i c
alr, thanks

[urban sleet]

Are you sure they are doing it for fun tho

[gray mulch]

who's being serious about surtr hospital?

[urban sleet]

You never know

[woeful zodiac]

allat for a worse afkslop setup

[split sphinx]

Only ever did it for RA1 cause I'm stupid idk

[gray mulch]

Can you even hospital afk?

[quick jolt]

its a complete meme you can literally just use the 3 healer slots for 3 more dps

[quick jolt]

with more than 3 healers but yes

[gray mulch]

Damn I've never seen it afk

[silver smelt]

I guess 2 healers + exu s3 isnt that bad actually

[quick jolt]

search "blemichi" on youtube, they do surtr hospital afk for every new annihilation

[gray mulch]

Oh lol

[quick jolt]

obviously not practical just memes

[gray mulch]

I probably lack the healers for it I kinda wanna try it for RA

[quick jolt]

its actually decent its just overkill asf like do anything else

[woeful zodiac]

im pretty sure its ass for ra2. dps isnt very high so you'd be sitting there for forever, or until you die

[gray mulch]

I was thinking I'd put reedic in there

[split sphinx]

Reed2 not afk

[gray mulch]

And pretend surtr is doing things

[woeful zodiac]

you're gonna need way more dps, the total enemy hp in ra2 is just unfunny.

[gray mulch]

I've heard ppl say they did it in ra tho

[fathom nest]

Probably the original RA

Bloated HP numbers there but with the base you could funnel much easier

[woeful zodiac]

ra wasnt that bad until the bosses or the biggest raids. ra2 just has all raids have fuckton of hp to dig thru, and then new bosses with unbelievable total hp were added too...

[cursive jackal]

Alright, maybe this is all the character i have right now. As you can see, i play four star characters because all my Five and Six stars are not ready yet.

[split sphinx]

They wont be ready if you don't raise them

[woeful zodiac]

honestly no clue if this is some advanced level of EN player cant comprehend things, or 🪴

[reef plume]

biggest flex ive seen till now

[split sphinx]

Feels like bait

[quick jolt]

not really a flex when majority of them suck

[reef plume]

but even getting em is hard no

[rain forge]

bait used to be better

[quick jolt]

not particularly, depends on playtime

[reef plume]

fair enough

[rain forge]

This isn’t even z tier bait

[woeful zodiac]

my e2 list is longer than that tho

[reef plume]

im struggling at dosseles holiday 5th stagr right before i unlock tequila

[severe crypt]

I think my lvl 90 list is as big as that

[nimble kite]

Army of MID 🥹

[urban sleet]

What we said before still holds true

[reef plume]

no life

[severe crypt]

I’m employed and in uni 🥱

[woeful zodiac]

look up arflanyr guide on youtube, its 0 level people

[gray mulch]

I could have sworn the creator of a ra2 youtube guide I watched said they do surtr hospital but I can't seem to find their comment maybe I hallucinated it

[quick jolt]

how much lmd you got rn bro

[severe crypt]

4.4 mil, poor in exp tho

[quick jolt]

thats poor yeah

[random shard]

I keep seeing people mention ra2... What ra is currently available? And for how long

[reef plume]

i did look up at his guide but a lot of the characters he used were e1 and i dont wanna spend all my exp tickets on it

[woeful zodiac]

but my 5 star roster needs more ppl 🥹

[quick jolt]

ra2 is the one currently available, and ra is a permanent gamemode

[winter crystal]

“Why don’t I have enough resources to raise my 6 stars?? Oh well better max my 30th 4 star while I wait”

[severe crypt]

Mainly cuz I recently went and 90ed some stuff, had 6.7 mil before

[reef plume]

67

[neat acorn]

In the pin it says wang who is wang is it like a placeholder

[woeful zodiac]

no ? arflanyr guide is lv0

[random shard]

So just like IS where there was a temporary original?

[quick jolt]

no its the name of the new 6star limited sui sibling

[gray mulch]

But then again that person was an "actual ra player" so maybe they do surtr hospital as a hardmode challenge idk

[severe crypt]

I’m serious

[reef plume]

ill ser it

[sly sigil]

Wang is the name of the next Suibling

[split sphinx]

The guide uses non-levelled units

[reef plume]

and im sarcastic so

[severe crypt]

But hey now my account looks cooler 🥹

[rain forge]

Looking at that guy’s 6* list are any of them even worth raising outside of haruka

[reef plume]

okay then ill check it out

[woeful zodiac]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvpVd4ZPESQ&pp=ygUSYXJmbGFueXIgYXJrbmlnaHRz0gcJCZEKAYcqIYzv

[quick jolt]

make sure u copy the stickers at the start

[outer wedge]

is eve mujica worth pulling or worth prioritizing over SA alt?

[split sphinx]

So bro just straight lied about looking up the guide

[woeful zodiac]

ya the stickers are the most important

[rain forge]

[quick jolt]

you still got like 3 months until salter so yeah pull sakiko

[severe crypt]

No he said he’ll “ser” it not search it, big difference

[urban sleet]

Enough time to save for salter after mujica

[gray mulch]

Is arflanyr guide practical for newbies tho

[proven kelp]

Surtr hospital sounds wild when she's gonna get one tap by most boss

[gray mulch]

Thinking more into it, they probably have some sort of extreme base set up with the traps and stuff

[woeful zodiac]

7k hp no dr is rough

[neat acorn]

I don't even know whay the sui siblings are but good enough info

[quick jolt]

i dont see why not, it only uses 2/3star characters you get from story that arent levelled at all

[split sphinx]

It doesnt get any more practical than 0 investment free units

[severe crypt]

No, true practical is an untouched singular yato clear

[split sphinx]

All you need is one maybe two working braincells to copy inputs

[random shard]

A stretch for most na, really

[severe crypt]

NA? True EN spreads beyond the seas

[gray mulch]

That's not the issue, arflanyr is a high skill player and that clear in particular relies on staggering kills to delay the next wave. Newbies aren't gonna know about that kind of stuff and they probably will kill things faster

[woeful zodiac]

yeah its doesnt get more practical unless you make them rush an e1 then borrow or something... But the whole point of 0 investment dh-5 is to unlock the e2 borrows from e2 tequila

[proven kelp]

So much trouble for it's worth

Almost everything just dies to Degen and Zuo anyway lol

[severe crypt]

Ur supposed to replace the ops he uses with your own better ops and e0/e1 support units

[neat acorn]

Took me like 10 minutes to beat it with the guide ngl

[reef plume]

thanks a lot. i found it.

[neat acorn]

Play it on 1x

[gray mulch]

If I wanted to play RA practically I wouldn't bother to play it all my dude. I'd just go play IS

[proven kelp]

Smh

[reef plume]

i feel like such a noob watching him beat the stage with level 1 troops

[split sphinx]

That's the point of the guide video, they don't need to know all of that. Just copy the inputs

[woeful zodiac]

well.. you are a noob lol, you got alot to learn

[reef plume]

that hit hard

[quick jolt]

well yeah hes been playing for years ofc he will be better at the game

[gray mulch]

I feel like just borrowing an e1 would be much easier, no need to worry about input timings at all with a lemuen or whatever

[reef plume]

i played kingdom rush and all but now i feel like an idiot

[rain forge]

What the hell is kingdom rush

[quick jolt]

its also lowkey only possible because the stickers are broken as fuck

[reef plume]

another hard tower defense game

[neat acorn]

Ye

[woeful zodiac]

there isnt rly a game you can transfer skill from and play well in arknights tbh. maybe path to exile, I heard has similar gameplay, but dont take my word..

[gray mulch]

Arflanyr is obviously a high skill player they're not actually making guides catered to newbies

[quick jolt]

its not really that difficult to copy a video step by step

[neat acorn]

The guide works pretty good

[severe crypt]

Honestly you’ll fare better than most, all td games have universal mechanics, rules amd playstyles

[reef plume]

i shud try it out

[reef plume]

yeah true, im happy i have past experience

[neat acorn]

I just played it on 1x speed while watching it

[reef plume]

ill prolly do that as well

[split sphinx]

Sounds like a not so practical idea. Now they need to e1 AND find a borrow when they can just clear with no investment

[neat acorn]

Idk why i even got tequilla since i did not know i needed hum to borrow e2 supports

[runic cipher]

chat whats the topic

[quick jolt]

we're shit talking you

[severe crypt]

The Cummins ISL9

[reef plume]

dosseles holiday and i how i feel like an idiot watching arflanyr beat with level 1 troops

[split sphinx]

Wang sucks

[runic cipher]

[neat acorn]

[quick jolt]

guys how good is wang and does he powercreep wisadel

[severe crypt]

We’re not making it 6 months

[woeful zodiac]

guys is wang must have do I have the must and lumen

[reef plume]

damn thats crazy out of context

[neat acorn]

Who is wang

[odd sky]

4 sui will be relevant again trust

[quick jolt]

is wang a twink

[neat acorn]

Perchance

[reef plume]

ive never seen a community ne this unhinged without being warned or banned bro

[severe crypt]

One moment @copper oracle

[runic cipher]

mods on lunch break shhhhh

[undone portal]

no need to consult fib, absolutely not

[quick jolt]

damn it

[severe crypt]

Who said anything about consulting

I just summoned him for the love of the game

[neat acorn]

Seen much worse thing in other commu get by

[undone portal]

you should see #arknights

[quick jolt]

i hope the next 5 limiteds are male. i know fae agrees

[neat acorn]

How do i download arknights

[odd sky]

appstore?

[quick jolt]

go to settings, find arknights, uninstall

[neat acorn]

Noted

[split sphinx]

Is this your first discord server

[undone portal]

search in appstore, youre looking for the one called 'ex astris'

[reef plume]

nope

[odd sky]

endfield

[urban sleet]

Ask in endfield server

[quick jolt]

guys is chen4 good

[proven kelp]

Clearly haven't seen Limbus discord

[reef plume]

yes i havent

[neat acorn]

Is wang good?

[reef plume]

yes. trust

[odd sky]

phys dmg team

[split sphinx]

Should I spark nian

[reef plume]

this is peak help channel vibes bro

[urban sleet]

Spark dusk

[runic cipher]

just got warned

[reef plume]

should i e2 tequila

[formal shadow]

yeah

[outer wedge]

what is to specialize on haruka skill

[urban sleet]

With the e2 ticket preferably

[severe crypt]

Ok now that’s actual advice

[reef plume]

lmao rekt blud

[runic cipher]

yes, cheap dp cost reasonable damage

[formal shadow]

also light is Watching 👁️

[woeful zodiac]

welcome to bored help chat (before mod arrives)

[quick jolt]

s2

[urban sleet]

S2

[reef plume]

yeah thats what im thinking

[quick jolt]

he doesnt have a life he is always here

[runic cipher]

s2 if you like afk, s3 if you like tanking and high damage reduction percentage

[severe crypt]

S2 if you like using her best skill

[reef plume]

light cannot see cuz its blinded by itself lol

[quick jolt]

s3 is the ultimate survivability skill but you really dont need it. also does basically nothing offskill

[outer wedge]

how about Hoshi alt? s3-hell itself?

[urban sleet]

S3 is overkill/not needed most of the time, s2 is enough in my very humble opjnion

[runic cipher]

skill 3 then skill 2

[split sphinx]

Shit we like overkill here

[quick jolt]

i just got literally my first warn ever

[spare jetty]

wow

[reef plume]

no shit

[quiet sandal]

wat ops r super good for integrated strategies? https://www.krooster.com/network/lookup/lively-cherry-heron-071z
i got like kaltsit and ling

[outer wedge]

who's worth upgrading between surtr and eyjafjalla

[urban sleet]

Which eyjafjalla

[outer wedge]

just her

[quick jolt]

mizuki, angelina, and kaltsit all have IS-specific mods that are pretty broken. most broken in that order

[urban sleet]

"which"

[stark peak]

What cardinal tiles are? This is from boss Playwright desc.

[quick jolt]

ling is very bad in IS

[outer wedge]

I mean the original version

[urban sleet]

I am assuming you mean caster eyja, in that case surtr

[split sphinx]

Kal cheeto yato2 ange, well maybe nit cheeto cause no hoshi2

[formal shadow]

cross shaped attack

[severe crypt]

Do people not know cardinal directions 🥹

[runic cipher]

surtr high brst damage, eyja also does the same but highground , eyja s3 skill recharge is long basically you just use her like surtr deploy and redeploy for eyja s3.

[wispy jolt]

The what?

[spare jetty]

they doesn't know how to read either

[stark peak]

not English, the only cardinals I know from army (neither Google translator)

[woeful zodiac]

should not expect comprehension from en player

[quiet sandal]

can u use them in all the different IS modes?

[quick jolt]

yes

[severe crypt]

Why do I bother

[quick jolt]

they're also like dirt cheap to max. only costs mod blocks

[formal shadow]

cardinal directions = north south east west

[quiet sandal]

why need hoshi2 for cheeto to be good?

[undone portal]

is it clear what the deployment priority order for wang talent1 is? it seems to go right-up-down-left, but it also seems to ignore that if it can make his weiqi rocks form straight lines

[quick jolt]

her entire thing is being an sp battery for offensive recovery skills

[split sphinx]

Cheeto is an offrec enabler

[woeful zodiac]

wtf is north south east west its north east south west 😠

[runic cipher]

||spoilers||

[pseudo flume]

Sourt Weast

[severe crypt]

Fym spoiler we can talk about it

[formal shadow]

that's how I draw my directions :realmad:

[spare jetty]

why spoilers bru

[split sphinx]

Sakiko might be great with cheeto, not sure

[undone portal]

light says its okay to talk about him, check pins

[quick jolt]

you can talk about CN stuff, just not lore and story

[pseudo flume]

Its kit related so we are allowed

[runic cipher]

i see i never click pins or something in between

[pseudo flume]

They need to refer here ya
#server-news

[undone portal]

-# wang isnt even a new character lorewise

[pseudo flume]

We murder him in IS6 Ed3 ya

[formal shadow]

From the preview I didn't notice if there was a guarantee on the direction wang places his mine

[quick jolt]

it might prioritize enemy tiles? but im just speculating atp

[formal shadow]

then not sure why the mine place left in the preview where they were showing him placing the mine on undeployable tile

[quick jolt]

someone will figure it out after release ig

[undone portal]

now that im watching his s3 preview against babel burdenbeasts im .. even more confused

[formal shadow]

what's confusing about that?

[quick jolt]

cant be as confusing as mantra bounce

[formal shadow]

s3 is literally he places the mines on each 4 adjacent tiles

[wispy jolt]

Just think of it as wis s3 but you can choose where to blow up

[undone portal]

doesnt seem to be any consistent order to how theyre arranged around the center stone

[rain forge]

How does chalteralter’s kit look so far

[quick jolt]

big damage guard #17

[rain forge]

[wispy jolt]

S2 could be very annoying to use

[pseudo flume]

Arts Guard but isn't

[formal shadow]

ngl I still sleep with her kit atm until I see numbers

[quick jolt]

its just leizi s3 situation again

[copper schooner]

Did they really steal yu event mechanic and slapped it on Chen alter alter s3

[pseudo flume]

Yes, yes they did

Wang S2 is just Dorothy S3 but better ig?

[undone portal]

umpteenth 6star guard dps unit
s2 looks like it could very easily fuck herself over and s3, while it does seem a lot better, also seems map dependent like leizi s3

[copper schooner]

Wonder how far the s3 dragon goes

[formal shadow]

no afk skill. it is over

[quick jolt]

thank god

[split sphinx]

Hopefully both ass so I can skip

[pseudo flume]

Don't be a lazy bum and press those buttons smh

[hollow bloom]

Ntm on wang

[pseudo flume]

I want another Sui tbh

[undone portal]

wang s2 has wider range (and presumably better damage) than dorothy s3, only thing hes missing is the bomberman style recursive detonation, but that can be situationally better

[outer wedge]

what's role of eve mujica?

[quick jolt]

damage

[pseudo flume]

Dps

[wispy jolt]

With ignore

[pseudo flume]

Also Laneholding

[undone portal]

sakiko/mutsumi/nyamu: different flavors of damage
umiri: stall, uika: healing/buffing

[clever geyser]

Who are the flying ops in the game? I kinda wanna meme them with Ente s2 to kill some pesky drones.

[formal shadow]

leizi2 contrail tippi

[pseudo flume]

The others don't exist 🤫

[copper schooner]

Wang kit is like dmg + slow or something

[quick jolt]

contrail, tippi, leizialt (technically)

[granite trout]

what lumen skill is good ?

[formal shadow]

3

[quick jolt]

s3

[outer wedge]

there are no other older limited ops available in eve mujica banner right?

[granite trout]

thanks

[coarse notch]

plus taraxcum

[pseudo flume]

Skybox Erasure smh

[formal shadow]

taraxcum erasure smh

[undone portal]

no, avemujica banner is effectively a standard banner, just with special rateups

[outer wedge]

how to get that lizard

[quick jolt]

hes on CN

[coarse notch]

not out yet

[copper schooner]

Time travel

[undone portal]

skybox is the welfare unit during nasti event

[outer wedge]

are u saying it's not actually limited?

[formal shadow]

it's a different breed of limited so to speak

[pseudo flume]

True Limited

[undone portal]

the band members themselves are limited, the banner doesnt work like most limited banners do

[copper schooner]

It limited bc u don't know when tf it'll come back

[quick jolt]

it probably wont

[pseudo flume]

Trust that R6S pt3 arrives 🚬

[copper schooner]

Unless lowlight have another vision

[undone portal]

theyll rerun it for mygo collab surely

[quick jolt]

true

[clever geyser]

Maybe never

[coarse notch]

probably never

[pseudo flume]

Only two that haven't rerun is Luo Xiaohei and Dungeon Meshi

[gray mulch]

Did you miss ela?

[pseudo flume]

No I have her 🚬

[copper schooner]

Dw they'll rerun for another song bc lowlight

[undone portal]

9cd 2nd rerun when

[shadow bay]

monster hunter technically didn't rerun yet

and cny didn't give any info of it being a rerun

[copper oracle]

no bruh

[coarse notch]

casc and natgeo havent returned either

[quick jolt]

yeah there is technically no confirmation that yato will rerun at all lol

[clever geyser]

Heh maybe it'll be a new breed of super limited that only reruns as offrates on future music collabs.

[coarse notch]

casc is permabanned from global anyways

[copper oracle]

wtf is casc

[pseudo flume]

Don't you botch my chances smh

[clever geyser]

Wait what?

[gray mulch]

Wasn't purestream a collab? Forget if that had a rerun

[rich kindle]

lemewn s2 or exu2 s2 for H15-4?

[coarse notch]

thats not how licensing works

[urban sleet]

permaban

[coarse notch]

lemuen s3

[clever geyser]

You may have a point.

[coarse notch]

chinese aerospace science and technology corp is banned because the US is a hater

[undone portal]

china aerospace science & technology
astronaut guardmiya skin in other words

[coarse notch]

hence we're never getting guard amiya's space skin

[clever geyser]

Dont forget chinese phones too etc. Cause it would mess up local industries.

[copper schooner]

They'll have ave mujica play for Ambience synthesis 2026 trust

[rich kindle]

Our country has "iphones" thoughhh

[gray mulch]

Global is more than just US though

[undone portal]

killkiss for as2026

[coarse notch]

eh you say this like phones are manufactured in the us to being with
this is getting into offtopic anyways

[quiet sandal]

wat does this mean sorry 😭

[coarse notch]

if you're running offensive recovery team in IS shes core to that
dont worry about it

[formal shadow]

cheetos for offensive recovery. like atheletes

[clever geyser]

Cause it makes Apples gazillions.

Samsung technically broke in too but i think thats Korean...

But uhh basically theres really cheap awesome chinese phones that US can literally keep out the market cause they ban a certain "band" those phones run on.

[gray mulch]

Archetto is an offensive recovery enabler

[quiet sandal]

ohhh like chen right

[wispy jolt]

Basically she helps charge other offensive skill by attacking

[coarse notch]

yes, chen is offrec
no, chen isnt part of the offrec team

[pseudo flume]

Continue this in #off-topic

[pseudo flume]

Chen1 is too washed

[quiet sandal]

no i mean, her passive charges sp for on attack characters?

[coarse notch]

she only batteries offrec as hard as she does in IS
otherwise its just very mid

[undone portal]

outside of is she only does it for snipers iirc

[quiet sandal]

or am i remembering wrong 🤣

[coarse notch]

yes but its pretty useless
the IS mod variant is much better

[outer wedge]

is wisadel at e0 still the best range dmg dealer?

[coarse notch]

why is wisadel at e0
and probably not

[copper schooner]

What

[pseudo flume]

I don't think so?

[coarse notch]

id rather use kroos at that point

[undone portal]

best e0 damage dealer is goldenglow :real:

[gray mulch]

Her pp only big at e2

[quick jolt]

wis when fully maxed out isnt the best ranged dmg dealer

[clever geyser]

Nah im done.

[quiet sandal]

wat ops r good with cheeto then? hoshi alt? hb like mudrock or unnecessary

[outer wedge]

why? is this game dupes heavy?

[quick jolt]

hoshialt, mon3tr, sakiko

[coarse notch]

e0 is elite 0, dupes is potentials, p1 is no dupes

[pseudo flume]

Dupes are mostly irrelevant to the average Ak player

[undone portal]

also hoederer, lemuen s1
mudrock doesnt have off.rec skills

[slim tusk]

e0 is not potential 💤

[quick jolt]

dupes do not matter what so ever. e0 is an abbreviation used to refer to promotion level 0, which is what people assumed you were talking about

[quiet sandal]

ok so get lucky on banner n then build cheebo

[outer wedge]

oh I'm sorry, I didn't know the term for dupe here is different.

I meant to ask if P1 wisadel is still the best range dmg dealer?

[quick jolt]

i mean its not a meta combination but its fun so sure i guess

[coarse notch]

i know we hate tierlists here but this saves some time

[quiet sandal]

I HAVE THIS ONE

[undone portal]

good tierlist
nvm, bad tierlist

[copper schooner]

That not a tier list

[pseudo flume]

You must be burned on the stake

[formal shadow]

dupes matters to combat as brake caliper logo color matters to braking performance

[faint quarry]

which chen alter module is better

[pseudo flume]

Qiubai isn't that necessary in IS

[quick jolt]

wisadel isnt the best ranged damage dealer, but also no, pot 1 wisadel is functionally the same as pot 6 wisadel

[rain forge]

E0 = ascension 0

[split sphinx]

No hoshi2 💔

[faint quarry]

(i think more like qiubai isnt necessary for any gamemode)

[coarse notch]

this was before hoshi2 and its for is5 245 anyways

[rain forge]

Dupes do fuckall nothing in this game so ya

[gray mulch]

She doesn't have the #1 best dmg if thay's what you're asking. Part of the reason she is good is because she has utility like camo and refreshable summons to bait enemy attacks, which she only gets at e2.

[split sphinx]

Ahh

[pseudo flume]

Qiubai has a use still in IS but its convoluted and not that necessary

[quick jolt]

her dupes do not matter at all, like most operators

[copper schooner]

Oh right I've been wondering does initial sp relic work the same with mon3 s3 the same way with ulpian s3

[hollow bloom]

Wait which skill for hoshi2 with cheeto

[pseudo flume]

Yes, you can spam it

[formal shadow]

2

[quick jolt]

s2

[faint quarry]

should i unlock chen alter dp reduce moduel

[coarse notch]

if shes one of your only good physical dps units sure

[quick jolt]

if you use chalter, its a pretty big upgrade

[copper schooner]

Thank lowlight for jank coding

[outer wedge]

ohhhh then who is that?

[quick jolt]

exusiai alter

[rain forge]

Perchance if I ever do manage to get ulpianus in the future do I mod3 gladiia

[quick jolt]

wisadel is considered the best operator for other reasons besides just pure damage numbers. she just happens to have really good damage numbers

[outer wedge]

I see, then I'll spark her

[rain forge]

Don’t spark, it’s not worth it

[shadow bay]

mod2+

[faint quarry]

in which situation should you prioritize picking chen alter in is over wisadel / lemuen / ray / typhon / narantuya

[formal shadow]

🤦‍♂️

[gray mulch]

She's not sparkable yet

[quick jolt]

you wouldnt 🥹

[shadow bay]

but then again ull be fine with a good healer babysitting ulpi instead of building glad

[quiet sandal]

necrass and dusk summon doesnt take up deployment slots right

[copper schooner]

I mean personally it kinda expensive and not really worth bringing gladiia most of the time

[rain forge]

when the wisadel/lem/ray/typhon/naran is e0l1

[copper schooner]

Bruh

[quick jolt]

not really recommended because of how expensive it is, but if you want to, go for it. just hopefully you understand that this isnt a game where you necessarily need the strongest operators

[lyric lagoon]

unless someone is point a gun at you forcing you to only use chalter over any of them, no

[rain forge]

Fair enough

Also is ulpianus’s main skill s2 or s3 I’m confused

[gray mulch]

When the account doesn't have them

[outer wedge]

I guess Wisadel will do

[formal shadow]

yez for necrass
dusk not sure

[rain forge]

Borrowing

[quick jolt]

s3 is his best skill but people prefer s2 for comfort and ease of use

[shadow bay]

s3

ull only use s2 when u want him to afk lanehold

[copper schooner]

S2 for afk s3 for killing shit but both kills

[crimson lava]

Dusk summons don't take deployment slots

[rich kindle]

If i can. i would spark Lemewn(aka Orbital Laser)

[outer wedge]

I see, I only use her if my first try failed to save time

[rain forge]

I see

[rain forge]

You can’t spark her

[quick jolt]

you can continue to just borrow her when needed. you arent missing out on much

[rich kindle]

thats the issue

[copper oracle]

wis > lem > chen for aoe
ray for single target
typh = nara = garbage tier

[formal shadow]

"sparking" lemuen is cheaper so

[shadow bay]

wrong server

[lyric lagoon]

wrong server

[quick jolt]

this is the server for the original arknights, not endfield, its a different game completely

[potent glacier]

Is Sakiko significantly different than previous lords? I like her design and she's superlimited but I already have Silverash and Qiubai who already barely see use

[hot citrus]

oops sorry]

[rich kindle]

go to Endfields #help

[lyric lagoon]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/956086681499496448

[copper oracle]

shes good but not top tier

[copper schooner]

Lost endfield player

[shadow bay]

u can actually spark lemuen ||although only for certain time||

[quick jolt]

its not even funny how much better she is than all of the other lords

[hot citrus]

mb i have the server right above this server forgot

[gray mulch]

Naran is garbage now?

[ancient lotus]

far from garbage

[copper schooner]

No

[rain forge]

Yeah it’s not October anymore

[lyric lagoon]

gotta get to building a time machine then, chop chop

[copper oracle]

for IS yeah

[quick jolt]

naran is good

[gray mulch]

When did this happen

[copper axle]

How much grinding till I get the coral skin in this event

[copper oracle]

same ticket as wis lem ray

[rain forge]

Has anyone done the calcs for sakiko’s event shop

[vivid yew]

where to farm grindstones

[formal shadow]

isn't ccb4 gone

[copper oracle]

if theres 3 ops better than u ur garbage tier

[shadow bay]

can u wait some more months or u badly need it?

[quick jolt]

fib are u garbage tier

[vivid yew]

i wanna e2 jay now

[formal shadow]

wait til thorns2 rerun

[copper oracle]

nop im goated tier

[shadow bay]

hmmm then refer to /material in #bot-spam

although to note, 2-3 months from now grindstone will be in infinite event shop during events

[gray mulch]

I think we have a very different definition for the word "garbage"

[copper oracle]

how so, u cant bring more than 3 of the same class in IS for 99% of runs

[copper axle]

?

[lyric lagoon]

#help is in it’s low tier ragebait era today

[formal shadow]

hope economy shackles him

[formal shadow]

isn't ccb4 over

[rain forge]

Yall?

[warm hatch]

what is this

[quick jolt]

as in, is it all clearable?

[spare jetty]

keep waiting

[gray mulch]

Not every account owns every op. She's not objectively garbage, she's still fine.

[quick jolt]

you gotta be kidding me

[rain forge]

ya

[copper axle]

It's a perm game mode mah?

[formal shadow]

oh my god bro you have to state the operator for me to know

[spare jetty]

why using ai

[rain forge]

[slim tusk]

what are we even arguing
would you draft nara or fraudphon on IS?

[rich kindle]

should i build GG?

[formal shadow]

anyways i believe it's like ~3h? with glowstick farm

[copper axle]

I just googled

[quick jolt]

maybe, if you dont have better arts dps

[rich kindle]

i have arts dps. but she has a little extra range. thats it

[quick jolt]

you probably dont need her but you can if you want shes not like bad or anything

[spare jetty]

and not every run u get 3+ the same voucher in the same run and have the hopes when u have it

[rich kindle]

eyjafjalla does more damage. right.

[fathom nest]

You can view the shop and see how many points you need to get the skin

[copper oracle]

well if u use this argument then shitter 6 stars like carne are good if u dont own like any other 6 star

[quick jolt]

no lol

[copper axle]

Cud u screenshot? Cuz I only saw a welfare and mats

[gray mulch]

I'm not arguing that you'd draft her after 3 other sniper drafts. I'm saying not every account owns every operator, so an account without the other mentioned snipers would draft naran and she would do fine. Did you actually read what I said

[copper oracle]

when u rate ops u should compare to other existing ops

[gray mulch]

No because carnelian is objectively bad

[quick jolt]

naran is fine. there are better options. you cant draft everyone in IS. if you have the better options, you draft them instead
argument solved

[spare jetty]

and the goddamm context pls

like which IS is it

[gray mulch]

Not even arguing about a specific IS

The context was "naran is garbage"

[copper axle]

Thx

[spare jetty]

nvm knowable

[potent glacier]

Are any upcoming 2nd modules huge improvements over the first?

[rich kindle]

Play RA

[fathom nest]

No

[undone portal]

ch'otgun/vina/entelechia got solid 2nd mods, ch'otgun mod just dropped in global

[lyric lagoon]

delete RA

[polar pier]

Why is someone saying Narantuya is garbage when stats say she's 1 of the most used. Should I question his credibility or the stats's credibility?

[spare jetty]

no dont trust this screen

[fathom nest]

Those results are skewed heavily for lower difficulty use

[ancient lotus]

uhh dont trust this stat but narantuya is pretty viable in is6

[polar pier]

Ok

[spare jetty]

trust high diff players instead

[sacred shadow]

Guy's, will it be worth it to pull for ave mujica banner, specifically the 5 stars, excluding sakiko?

Or will we have to wait for the ops to actually release to get more info?

[faint quarry]

which IS is the most fun to play

[lyric lagoon]

5 stars are pretty mid/garbage, only pull if going for sakiko

[spare jetty]

5(usually)

[fathom nest]

Subjective

[undone portal]

the 5stars arent strong enough to be worth chasing after specifically

[quick jolt]

pretty subjective question and youll get different answers. like imo its is4

[faint quarry]

what do you use for higher difficulty then

[rich kindle]

for me its whatever Socks says

[fathom nest]

I don't play high diff, listen to cube and fib

[spare jetty]

supporters for is6

[random kestrel]

wtf tuta slander :realmad:

[faint quarry]

who

[undone portal]

maybe its recency bias talking but is6 feels the most well designed i think
hopefully exp1/2 wont change my view on the matter

[fathom nest]

Raidian and Tragodia are the main ones

[sacred shadow]

Thank you guys!

But another question, What about sakiko apart from the def/res shred thingy, how worth it is she?

I'm torn between getting sakiko, and silver daddy since I only have 140 pulls.

[spare jetty]

trag raidian haruka

[bitter anvil]

For sniper Wis/Lemon/Nara

1 Sniper draft is enuff, very rare I draft 2 snipers outside of sniper medic

[quick jolt]

you have enough time to get both. its not really a decision. big gap

[lyric lagoon]

she’s a comfy/good character to have but not “gamebreaking” or op

[split sphinx]

get skk then save for sash2, you'll be alright

[gray mulch]

Cn players say expansion is crazy hard

[sacred shadow]

Thank you guys!! 🫶

[rich kindle]

shes not lemeun, wisadel or exu alter but shes good

[quick jolt]

only if you're doing ed5
otherwise its easier

[undone portal]

being a dps unit with lots of def/res ignore is pretty much her main selling point
youve got enough pulls to guarantee for saki without leaving yourself in a horrible position for sash

[gray mulch]

Isn't ed5 the main content of the expansion?

[quick jolt]

ofc but not everybody plays ed5

[gray mulch]

Ah right. I don't even remember what else gets added other than ed5

[quick jolt]

like objectively outside of the shitty ed5 debuff relics and the difficulty of that boss, the mode is easier

[random kestrel]

ed5 usually harder by default
(reach it and beat it)

[quick jolt]

but yes if you're doing ed5 it is harder overall than it is currently, i think. or so im told

[gray mulch]

This ed5 is supposedly harder than all the others though

[quick jolt]

supposedly The hardest IS boss

[spare jetty]

235 is6 mmm

[fathom nest]

Like actually hard, or artificially hard like d15 BSL?

[undone portal]

is6 feels closest to a properly playtested roguelike, is5 is so sandbox-like in its efforts to eschew making you deal with rng it loops back around to being actually fun in that way
the older is modes have flaws that keep me from feeling like theyre as fun comparatively

[vivid yew]

are any of the collab units 6 stars?

[fathom nest]

Sakiko

[quick jolt]

bit of both but definitely leaning towards the latter heavily

[gray mulch]

Only 1

[vivid yew]

ah alright

[random kestrel]

its common that already hard enough to reach ed5 i think (dunno about IS6)

[quick jolt]

like mechanically its not as hard as sentinel or smth

[vivid yew]

when does sakiko even release?

[fathom nest]

Event timers in pins

[quick jolt]

in less than 4 days

[vivid yew]

oo nice

oo i really like sakikos design

[rich kindle]

where can i ask question about new cn banner??

[ancient lotus]

here but read pin before you proceed

[gray mulch]

#cn-lounge

[undone portal]

banner/kit questions can go here
lore questions should be directed elsewhere

[rich kindle]

just asking chen alter alter is not limited right

[young glacier]

Well what can be his question if banner just announced and nothing else. And kit details should be pinned in cn lounge

[undone portal]

yes, shes standard. wang is the limited op for this banner

[young glacier]

Yes chalter alther is not limited

[gray mulch]

Chalt3r

[undone portal]

are there any other instances of alters being objectively easier to obtain than previous iterations

[rich kindle]

this wang is trapmaster. is his kit revealed? like what he does?

[gray mulch]

Phantom?

[slate ridge]

You mean like Silence2 being free instead of Kernel ?

[gray mulch]

Oh right

[young glacier]

Bro what is this question
Kroos alter is free and kroos too, Phantom alter is first case of banner alter of kernel unit etc etc

[spare jetty]

yes
its somewhere in #cn-lounge but not the numbers

[fathom nest]

In the pins

[rich kindle]

who needs numbers. as long they are fun to use

[fathom nest]

You're in the wrong channel

[young glacier]

How the F do we know that from ANNOUNCEMENT

[spare jetty]

tl stuffs

[gray mulch]

Nobody's had the chance to playtest yet we don't even know details

[rich kindle]

its ok. i dont need to know the numbers

[young glacier]

tl: Skills do things. We don't know CD, DP, SP, MP, Adjusted Difficulty etc

[abstract mauve]

nop. wang is good. chalter2 decent probably. surely

[rich kindle]

i was hoping talulah or suzudad playable.. but.. whatever

[young glacier]

Do dishes idk

[copper schooner]

bro it cny it alway a sui

[bitter anvil]

chalter 2 looked mid from the kit tbh, unless they really skew the numbers in her favour

[rich kindle]

yeah chen alter/blaze alter was a sui

[fathom nest]

"Hope in one hand, shit in the other. See which one fills up quicker." ~my dad

[gray mulch]

Yeah zuo le was a sui

[undone portal]

wang is pretty observably good just from showcases. s3 looks to be a manual transmission logos of sorts
ch'en3s gonna need some actual playtesting. im of the opinion s2 looks like . gigabad until im proven wrong

[proven kelp]

Surely he flops

[bitter anvil]

the only interesting part about chens kit was weakness dmg

[gray mulch]

I'm too small brain to play trapmaster

[abstract mauve]

i think the showcase with alistair looked good idk

[rich kindle]

lets not be like SUPAH

[abstract mauve]

wang is not gonna flop

[fathom nest]

Has weakness damage appeared in the game before now?

Even through an enemy?

[bitter anvil]

its similar to ceobe Ig

[rich kindle]

no sui flopped. except Dusk

[undone portal]

i have no issues with ch'en3 s3. seems like a leizialt s3 situation where the dps is worth working around the terrain restrictions

[bitter anvil]

kinda but not the same, ceobe just deals more arts with more def

[copper schooner]

I can already see chenalteralter s2 being funny with relics

[eternal depot]

Most optimal level for trag? I have him S2 m3 and mod3

[fathom nest]

82

[eternal depot]

Thanks

[rich kindle]

yes. ceobe seems more useful than chalter.. idk why.. cause def scale is crazy and ceobe talent has no upper limit

[fathom nest]

Going to be doing phys 90% of the time because res scaling sucks eggs 🥹

[maiden thunder]

why dont we wait for dalao opinions

[bitter anvil]

the correct translation is supposed to be “deals physical or arts damage based on def or res”

she might switch to phy or arts depending yeah

[maiden thunder]

they truly killed subclass

[abstract mauve]

alistair 92000 hp 1030 def 20 res. she killed him in 1 skill. yk she's not that bad trust

[undone portal]

im really not enthused with ch'en3 s2 uncontrollably hurling herself across the map. its gonna be rough without initial sp shenanigans and enough invincibility frames to let her pop s2 again without immediately dying

[bitter anvil]

atp they could have just made her a dreadnought, atleast higher base atk stat

[rich kindle]

its def, res, hp all scaling???

[maiden thunder]

%HP true damage when?

[young glacier]

Fia self burn

[bitter anvil]

isnt tbat kinda similar to entel

oh wait

[undone portal]

already attempted on entel s3 ya. they just undercooked her numbers

[maiden thunder]

its current hp too not max HP

[bitter anvil]

it will be like Suzuran event mechanic

[rich kindle]

imagine: "deals 100% of HP true damage"

[glass mango]

100th anniversary

[undone portal]

shocked its taking hg this long to drop the 6star skyranger/primal guard theyre clearly planning

[young glacier]

We already have this chapter 9 tower do 8k or something true damage, then force retreat operator just in case

[maiden thunder]

first 6* skyranger was leizialt🤫

[vivid yew]

tytyyy

[undone portal]

we got 2 other takeoff-centric archetypes introduced before skyrangers got a 6star

[bitter anvil]

how much does viviana shave off his hp btw if not kill it? with delta mod

[gray mulch]

Maybe they need to be released with a specific side story

[abstract mauve]

viviana dies prolly

[rich kindle]

waiting for flinger guard

[cursive maple]

?

[undone portal]

isnt that just earthshakers

[gray mulch]

Like fortress but guard?

[rich kindle]

yes

[undone portal]

oh, thought you meant flingers like the aoe splash damage flinger snipers get

[cursive jackal]

I haven't touched an IS event since IS2 came out. Is IS2-IS5 easy? Or do I have to max out my operator level?

[abstract mauve]

first activation is weakened. she dies after dealing around 50% hp

[gray mulch]

You can stick to low difficulty ending 1 if you want

[undone portal]

youll want a few e2s going in ideally, but is isnt that hard. borrow someone during your initial drafts if you need to

[paper gyro]

Is there a operator info site for base skills
Heard aceship is outdated
I don't see any in krooster

[gray mulch]

Difficulty 0 can be done with low investment

[undone portal]

wiki.gg has it for you
also check #r-i-i-c pins, theres a fairly in-depth base combo spreadsheet

[rich kindle]

guys i found a youtube video showing demonstration of chen alter alter. is it considered leak? i accidentally found it. believe me i have no bad motives

[paper gyro]

I did difficulty 0 IS6 easy but failed difficulty 1/2 many times that I reached rewards lvl 40

[bitter anvil]

IS2 and IS5 are the easiest at low diff

[odd sky]

livestreamed yesterday

[gray mulch]

It was on official stream

[abstract mauve]

is3 easier than is2 at low diff imo

[rich kindle]

it included numbers too..

[bitter anvil]

I think IS3 boss 1 is easier than IS2 boss 1

but IS2 enroute is very easy, IS3 has some hard maps enroute

[copper oracle]

why

[abstract mauve]

i can see that being the case ye

[paper gyro]

What's the free welfare of is2, dunno if they're useful

[bitter anvil]

shalem, bad

[gray mulch]

Do we have to keep arguing about the difference between naran and carnelian

[copper oracle]

whats this arbitrary bar between good or bad

[abstract mauve]

shalem. they're bad

[copper oracle]

yes ur saying naran isnt bad cos if u dont have strong 6 stars shes good by comparison
and im saying carne isnt bad cos if u dont have most 6 stars shes good by comparison

[obtuse obsidian]

Shalem is like top 10 arts defender in the game!!!

[paper gyro]

What do those ops do

[abstract mauve]

the difference is that carnelian s3 has the same average dps as prama2 s2. there's no operator that has the afk dps of nara s3

[copper oracle]

why can u remove the top 6 stars and claim naran is good but i cant remove thr majority of 6 stars (what new player has) and claim carne is good

[bitter anvil]

If Gamepress tier list was up they'd prolly make him an A or B tier arts def too

[gray mulch]

Let's say you're playing no 6 star other than random 0 hope offers. You get offered a naran, you would feel good taking it. You get offered a carnelian, you can probably ignore it and draft a 5 star.

[copper oracle]

this is cope carne is better than 5 stars

[gray mulch]

Yes that is exactly my point???

[obtuse obsidian]

No world i draft a 5 star over free carn

[copper oracle]

i mistyped sorry

[glass mango]

Carne IS mod when

[spare jetty]

forever

[abstract mauve]

carnelian still better than 99% of 5* unironically

[obtuse obsidian]

I rather take free carne over free Ifrit in is anyway

[copper oracle]

which 5 star is better than carne
theres like rockrock for single target and who else

[abstract mauve]

arts damage wise? there really isnt

[copper oracle]

lmao my point

[obtuse obsidian]

Carne s2 can be really pog in is

[bitter anvil]

Is mods seem to follow a pattern as far as I see rn

Hool and Gnosis seemed like the only outliers

but they linked karlan with rhine lab by making astegnne alter in silverash alter event

IS7/8 might be rhine lab based (I might be onto nothing)

[copper oracle]

shit 6 star still better than good 5 stars

[glass mango]

IS4 is kinda Rhine Lab something something
IS7 Russia trust

[bitter anvil]

IS4 is Sami

If you look at IS mods for ops, those ops have links with IS somehow

only Hool and Gnosis aren't clear but they become clear if you thibk there will be a Rhine Lab based iteration

[spare jetty]

the whole expedition was funded by columbia bru

[copper oracle]

u should watch h12-4 carne burst casterknights clear to see what carne does

[glass mango]

Or IS7 Gaul Fr*nch

[odd sky]

stop 🔮

[obtuse obsidian]

Is7 will be saga eating mushrooms

[bitter anvil]

do you think that lowers the chances of us getting a rhine lab one, like how cool an IS we go to space again

[spare jetty]

no idea

[gray mulch]

That's mostly the difference between sniper/phys and caster/arts, the original point wasn't about carnelian it was about the definition of "garbage"

[spare jetty]

its up to hg on whats next
probably around june this year

[copper oracle]

yes and im saying if ur not top 3 (or top 3 sidegrade) ur garbage in IS

cos u cant draft more than 3 ops of the same class in 99% of runs

[obtuse obsidian]

No 6 star is actually pure garbage unless you compare them to other 6 stars

Except siege she can be called garbage :kappa:

[copper oracle]

my point lol, naran isnt garbage if u dont have other 6 stars, this argument can be extended to carne if u lack even more 6 stars

[outer wedge]

should I buy royalist specialist token for texas alt?

[gray mulch]

Just seems like a slippery slope type of argument

[spare jetty]

no

[copper oracle]

when does it end, cutter isnt bad just dont have any 5 or 6 star guards

[bitter anvil]

texas is washed bro

[pale tapir]

no unless you use texter in every stage and are going to unlock -1dp with that token

[spare jetty]

texalt fell off

[copper oracle]

yes thats why its top 3 or bust or niche usage to solve a boss tier

[outer wedge]

really she seems really useful

[obtuse obsidian]

Specilast is just too stacked that texas feels like she fell off

[spare jetty]

shes literally dies the next frame when shes deployed

[pale tapir]

she's useful but not necessarily good
has a lot of weaknesses, doesn't do enough dmg these days to compete with other options

[trail crater]

Hello 👋🏼 I’m new can I make a good friend?

[bitter anvil]

gen content slop, only draftable in IS3/IS4 if you don't have other good spec picks

but u prolly have those (Exia, Ela, Yato) even mizuki good in IS4

texas washed

[odd sky]

#friend-id

[obtuse obsidian]

Mizuki is great in any is now

Little blackhole

[trail crater]

Thanks

[spare seal]

guys should i use eyja alt or lumen

[gray mulch]

She's more of a comfort option

[spare jetty]

ejyaalt

[pale tapir]

is this even a question

[copper oracle]

she sucks

[bitter anvil]

I mean in IS3 bro would get cooked

but yeah I saw him for IS2 BSL and he is solid draft in IS6 too

[copper oracle]

she has 2 roles
as dmg op she sucks cos other ops do more dmg
and as crowd control op she also sucks cos other ops have better crowd control

[gray mulch]

You're not using zook to fight zook?

[bitter anvil]

newborn ant vs hydrogen bomb typa question

eyja

[spare jetty]

drafted weedy oops

[copper oracle]

fish twink bad

[obtuse obsidian]

Fib theres multiple fish twinks :realmad:

[glass mango]

And they are all bad

[obtuse obsidian]

Miz aint bad bro this is not 2023

[slim tusk]

fake men lover

[glass mango]

Bad cause I haven't got them yet
I need Mizuki IS to solve this fuckass IS 🫃

[spare jetty]

just have maxed raidian bro

[obtuse obsidian]

Just do 1 pull on a banner bro and get him

[gray mulch]

What banner

[glass mango]

Any

[spare jetty]

is6 was literally built around raidian

[outer wedge]

is Lappland alter still good to use or she fell off too

[odd sky]

she's fine

[copper oracle]

theres 1

[young glacier]

"is5 is impossible without Wisadel"

[gray mulch]

He's literally not in any banner rn😭

[copper oracle]

mizooki is a femboy not a twink

[glass mango]

Femboy is a subset of twink

[spare jetty]

whar

[young glacier]

Soft armpits man

[paper gyro]

Hi gays

Should I save 300 pulls for silverashalt to spark wisadel/exu2

[copper oracle]

u cant spark exu

[slim tusk]

exu2 is not even there

[paper gyro]

When will she be sparkable

[copper oracle]

november 2026

[glass mango]

November
Sixseven i mean 9 months

[paper gyro]

Do we know when would silverash 2 appear in global

[copper oracle]

in 3 months

[spare jetty]

3 months

[split sphinx]

we really got a spark wisadel epidemic in here

[paper gyro]

Are the Collab welfares worth building

[sweet blade]

is there a hecking guide for this betting event

[paper gyro]

Bet on jesselton

[deft aspen]

What does this beam do

[young glacier]

Bet on winning side

[sweet blade]

how do i tell

[abstract mauve]

as a general recommendation? no they arent worth building. maybe if new umiri e1 can be fine. more investment only if you really like her

[spare jetty]

think

[sweet blade]

hate that

[young glacier]

You lose 50% SP regen outside beam and some enemies debuffed by beam (Like 2 block crabs), but some enemies do fun stuff like - attack everyone connected by beam

[glass mango]

Make your OPs have normal skill speed recharge again
Else your SP recharge will fucking crawl and die
Some enemies hit by beam also weakened too

[paper gyro]

Are there ordinary ops that replace them. Incase I don't have their archtype

[shadow bay]

should have done LE first

anyway for basic, ops have lesser sp charge, and the beam mitigate that

[tiny abyss]

Offensive recovery

Don't the beam also do somethinf against enemy def/res? Or am I tripping

[deft aspen]

Thanks a lot!

[abstract mauve]

archetype matters less than the role. her role is more support than anything and you dont really need her or need to really replace her

[young glacier]

Only single enemy (Crabs who need 2 block to be blocked) lose DEF/RES while in beam

[abstract mauve]

she's like a bit of aoe damage + slow that can be nice sometimes

[tiny abyss]

So Ascalon

[abstract mauve]

umiri is a watered down ascalon yeah

[paper gyro]

I don't have ascalon

[abstract mauve]

66% of ascalon's dps. similar amount of slowing potential. like 80% slow vs ascalon's like 85%(?). problem is shit off-skill and her skill cycle is like 3x worse

[spare jetty]

bootleg asca

[tiny abyss]

When does CN get their orienteering with Logos/Mon3/Asca? Like alongside what event

[random kestrel]

the fate of 5*🥀

[paper gyro]

How good is ethan in comparison
I tried ethan and indigo s2, their dot is nice

[abstract mauve]

honestly better fate than most 5* units. being a watered down ascalon is still pretty good (for a 5*)

[sudden vine]

Do i get ifrit or gamble for Suzuran?

[formal shadow]

Better than being prototype 5* op who gets thrown in a ditch

[abstract mauve]

is your ethan max investment? like s2m3 mod3?

[random kestrel]

i see
so she better than manti and kiwawa

[paper gyro]

Not max invest yet..

[formal shadow]

Surely manti RA tech still exists :clueless:

[neon siren]

Whatever ur acc needs?

She is s3 right?

[random kestrel]

oh RA i thought it being forgotten :clueless:

[abstract mauve]

at e1 umiri is better since her skill is at least somewhat reliable at that level of investment. at e2 ethan has better CC ability but umiri has better damage. problem is umiri has way worse cycle

[bitter anvil]

Suzu I would say more useful than ifrit, but ifrit is still a lot better than mag

depends on how ur feeling, hard to say

[split sphinx]

I'd gamble suzu

[tiny abyss]

I curse Mag

[paper gyro]

Recruitment gacha gambling is mald

Would maxing my office help me gacha for top op tag more, 4 slots instead of usual 3

[opaque remnant]

Preferably don’t upgrade, it’s better to use the upgrades for factories

[glass mango]

It will make you desperate for it more

[paper gyro]

I have 5 factories rn..

[robust thistle]

Youee not supposed to use recruitment for *5-6s anyways, it has terrible rates

Imagine bricking your base just to get a washed up 4 year old operator

[paper gyro]

Did we have a %rates by devs

[robust thistle]

No

[opaque remnant]

Yes, and it’s better to have more factories on level 3 instead of level 2

[robust thistle]

But from player experience, the rates are too low to even bother "aiming" for it

[opaque remnant]

Recruitment exists simply for getting certificates and nothing else (for the most part)

[copper oracle]

1% for 5 star and 0.2% for 6 star from player collected data

over 100k samples so sample size big enough 👍

[split sphinx]

you run out of recruits with lv1 office so no need to brick your production to use them faster

[ember steppe]

wtf is wrong with IS4 bro

[copper schooner]

what isnt wrong with is4

also man I hate drafting mlynar in is6

[neon siren]

You need to upgrade your power plants for that right?

Waitz u need level 5 center too

[echo venture]

the ambience of these counts for credit score too?

[slate ridge]

No
Im still stuck at 80 per day

[undone portal]

credit score just checks dorm levels/clue exchange, activity rooms dont count

[quiet sandal]

is there tech with qaanipalat and irene

[coarse notch]

no
thats called burning down the kitchen

[serene beacon]

Should i e2 wafarin

[coarse notch]

only if you have a specific usage in mind

[split sphinx]

only if you really got nothing else to do

[coarse notch]

wdym its pretty normal
solved very easily by exu2/lemuen nowadays

[serene beacon]

Got this and don't know who to use on it tho

those are the only 5 stars I got

[quiet sandal]

bc irene s2 levitate for 4 sec, with 8sp cost and quanipaalat levitate 7 sec
esp with her sp regen module, i thought maybe you could setup a loop with those 2 maybe

[split sphinx]

go get tequila use it on him

[slim tusk]

how will you recharge irene

[quiet sandal]

if she doesnt kill with skill, u use quanipaalat to float so she gets 50% def shred
7sec cc should be enough for her to loop her skill again, so in theory quanipaalat's skill should let her regain 1 more "free skill" by using basics

[coarse notch]

levitate duration is also halved for weight 3+

[proven kelp]

So how is Irene gonna chain it if she needs something to hit to gain SP

[slim tusk]

what will irene do when qani levitate the enemy
staring air?

[quiet sandal]

you use quani skill only when irene is able to hit duh LOL

[quiet sandal]

slap with 50% shred and regen sp

[coarse notch]

this is getting increasingly convoluted and useless
tech is worthless if you cant think of a place to apply it
no notable elite/boss is gonna allow for that setup even if it somehow worked

[copper oracle]

does nasti s3 remain on field if u retreat her

[slate ridge]

Youd need Aak Liskarm Nasti Chen in most cases to support that prob

[proven kelp]

If Qani levi them with skill then Irene can't hit them
Levi consider enemies as airborne, which Irene doesn't hit off skill

[quiet sandal]

wat 😭 so irene just levitates them for fun unless shes on m3?

[coarse notch]

irene s3 fires ranged projectiles
otherwise its just a form of cc, she can't hit air

[slate ridge]

Argument is using Irene S2 which uh
Is something ig

[quiet sandal]

*unless on m3, bc her passive going from 50% chance to IED goes to 100% on aerial enemy

[slate ridge]

Wouldve preferred Irene S1 if you want to levispam

[quiet sandal]

bc i read that her module regens 6sp if u defeat with skill, so on skill1 it overcaps sp

[coarse notch]

er, what?
you're better off coping dorothy s2 permabind

[formal shadow]

needs lv3

[slate ridge]

And what are chances you defeat each skill use

[proven kelp]

So if you already killed the enemy, then what is Qani gonna chain with

[urban sleet]

I heard irene is good in sss or is that misinfo

[slate ridge]

Was

[quiet sandal]

tbh i forgot irene was landlocked 😭 i only have her m3 on s3 and she has a damn pistol LOL

[urban sleet]

Past tense thanks regardless

[slim tusk]

s2 doesn't hit air anyhow
the sp module is meant to use with s3

[quiet sandal]

like shes my fav and i dont have ops past like yr2 release so saying just use this or that, or trying to maximise your fav is convoluted feels kinda 😭 not very nice

"why cc chain on irene when u can just xyz" ya ok my fault

[coarse notch]

why are we trying to chain cc someone irene can oneshot with s1 anyways

[proven kelp]

For something fav you sure doesn't know much about her

[pine plover]

all of her skill apply levitate first before dealing damage despite the skills description

[crimson steeple]

Anyone knows what the total bind chance of indigo s2m3 active + mod 3 max pot

[quiet sandal]

you like pokemon? name every pokemon and every skill xD

[urban sleet]

Indigo pots matter?

[coarse notch]

i feel like thats slightly different
indigo pots matter for high diff is5

[proven kelp]

I mean, i barely even use her and i still know her kit lol

[young glacier]

Bro if you call someone your fav at least know which type it is

[safe plover]

so as a newbie should i just be progessing story? (in chapter 2 atm)

[crimson steeple]

Is her bind reliable?

[quiet sandal]

same reason why bibeak used to have a "niche" although idk if it was ever loopable

[urban sleet]

Not to mention there's a difference between knowing one character's kit and memorising 1k+ pokemon smh

[young glacier]

We have downtime before 10th so you free to do whatever, reaching chapter 4 or something needed to max out your base

[coarse notch]

bibeak was looped on unkillable enemies bro

[split sphinx]

ch4 is enough to finish base

[quiet sandal]

i came back to the game after like 15 years, like modules didnt exist when i played 😭 ya i forgot about my goats kit you got me

[slate ridge]

Start with this if you need to
Irene S1 + Doro is the usual levispam
S2 spam needs more support and framing to make sure Chen Stainless Nasti etc to give sp

[young glacier]

Irene was added almost 1 year after module blocks so timeline don't match still

[quiet sandal]

man i was a passive player like

anyways i dont want to argue, thanks for the help i appreciate it

[proven kelp]

Mod inc bind chance to 25%
S2 triples the chance, so her bind is 75%

This high of a chance is considered very reliable

[compact sand]

How do i level up the control center, what room is non-activity room facility?

[slim tusk]

any room not named activity room 🤯

[crimson steeple]

Thanks
Ill build her then

[compact sand]

Uh is factory a activity room

[split sphinx]

what is the name

[compact sand]

I assume its not then?

[slim tusk]

activity room is a literal room name so if you don't see it called activty it's not

[split sphinx]

so factory is not an activity room?

[pine plover]

[proven kelp]

Last time i check
Factory and Activity are spelled differently

[quiet sandal]

is this s2 doro? put trap after irene s1?

[split sphinx]

that's deep

[urban sleet]

Both have 'act' and end in y but different in the end

[tiny abyss]

Erm activity room ends in m

[cursive jackal]

Alright, Thank you very much for the information

[vivid yew]

Is Entelechia second module straight up better than the first one?

[balmy panther]

better is an understatement

[quick jolt]

better damage, better survivability. its a pretty good upgrade to her

[rain forge]

Hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby

[pine plover]

it's as if she is whole different operator

[vivid yew]

Alright, i will wait for her 2nd module release. I got Hoolheyak, but she looks terrible gameplay wise, am i wrong?

[quick jolt]

yes you're right she is terrible

[sharp flax]

Is the dedicated ld player better than normal ld player in terms of performance

[pine plover]

they should have give her splash dmg on skill as default effect instead of from IS module

[stable brook]

What skill to raise for saileach

[bitter anvil]

S1 if you must

tho sail is not worth building in 2026, Agent Sweep

[young glacier]

yeet that S3 flag on that dog

[bitter anvil]

I never thought I would say S1 but it got used during ccb4 while S3 is just..gone

bro I keep thinking use for sail s3, I think if you do ground only HCM LS 4 sail S3 is usable, lemme check

[copper oracle]

sail s3 used in cc10 or smthing

[rain forge]

what does sail s3 do again

[obtuse stump]

Guys do cc4 tokens expire because I forgot to spend them

[bitter anvil]

yeah after that I don't see her anywhere except this, ranged can do wirh 4 ops btw

ground one is this

[bitter anvil]

go read on wiki

[obtuse stump]

Wait so they carry over?

[mild stump]

throws banner, deals damage and stuns target, slows and fragiles nearby enemies

[obtuse stump]

Ic thanks

[untold snow]

Why upgrading base so expensive 😭😭😭😭

[split sphinx]

you only need to ugrade it once

[velvet oriole]

if i have spare mats, is it worth to level up marcille s2m3? or are there better aoe casters

[cursive jackal]

I just wanna question, So if I bring some of the operators I have, can I hold on as long as possible to get better results? And maybe clear stage with higher difficult ? Because I don't know what type of enemies are in each IS event

[neon siren]

Holy shit that's a stacked acc 😭

[paper gyro]

Is the 5★specter still good, saw a video saying her laneholding is good

[neon siren]

Is 5 wisadel can solo

[frozen elm]

Which IS should i play