wave-audio

[granite python]

Hello, i just got a capture card 4K S, and a chat link cable for my PS5. Im currently using a macbook to stream but i cannot get the chat link cable to work. Its not picking up any audio. Ive tried everything, i already installed the app and put the “analog audio” setting on. And it still does not work. Please help.

[sour pawn]

I just found a work-around from using a Mixer

[solemn wyvern]

Confirm how you have the cable connected to everything. And do you hear the sound in your connected headset?

[jagged pulsar]

Hi, I've recently setup wave link 2.0 with a new mic and I'm routing discord through the voice channel as per guidance (voice channel is set as default communication device in windows).
Other people in voice chat are hearing themselves back through my discord when my mic is activated however.

I think it's also double playing discord system sounds back through my headphones.

Any way to resolve that?

Solved. Windows audio settting for discord in the mixer was set to voice chat instead of my headphone amp.

[shrewd blade]

Hello Elgato team,
I am currently using the Wave Link Beta version and I’ve run into an issue where I cannot add my primary microphone to the mix.

im using 3.0.0 (1874) version

[granite python]

I have my monitor going IN the elgato and OUT to my macbook, my chat link cable is plugged into the controller, with my headset plugged into the other end of the chatlink and going into the elgato.

[granite python]

I do hear sound from my headset and able to talk to others, but the tiktok studio, obs, elgato studio doesnt show that its picking up any voice chat at all

[solemn wyvern]

Is it getting video?
What you described sounds like the capture card is set up wrong.
USB should connect to the computer
HDMI in should connect to the console
HDMI out should connect to a dedicated display (tv or monitor; not your computer’s monitor)

[trail kayak]

Did Wavelink 3.0 update itself automatically? It reset all the apps I had on my mixers

I just checked the Wavelink 3.0 plugin — Wave Control (mic/PC mix). Previously it let you mute and also showed level and volume meters, but now it no longer does (streamdeck+ dial)

[high valve]

yep it updated all by itself and and now my microphone is not working so I removed the channel and now I cant add my mic back there is no option to add it

it was working just fine till the update

[trail kayak]

for me the only thing wrong was the mute button in streamdeck sometime i press and show red but people can still hear me

also now audio devices plugin in devices before my mic show in standard devices now doesnt so i feel they change a lot of things

[rain rain]

for some reason my game audio and my mic audio have fused together and any time I try talking, I have to hear me and my game

[past tiger]

so i've been on wavelink 2 with the stream deck + and it worked fine, i've decided to try out WL3 and I can't get anything to work, I can only hear any audio if I set windows sound to be my headset - it seems fundamentally way different than WL2 - can anyone enlighten my stupid brain..

[trail kayak]

https://youtu.be/TUwnvqHX4Xg here u can learn how to setup the basics

[past tiger]

Thanks! 👍

[past furnace]

Seems the new empty channel feature in the update doesn't work at all. Clicking it opens a small blank side menu item and doesn't do anything

[past tiger]

i've just made a few empty channels, but you can also just make a channel, go in and delete the assigned apps and then rename it

[past furnace]

I'm aware of the previously existing way of emptying a channel. What I'm saying is that the empty channel features is not working, at least for me. Restarting the app did not help.

[elfin peak]

Hey! Does anyone know if programs persist across sessions? So like let's say I have a game mixer channel, and I add in my game as the input, for example, FiveM. Will Wave Link still have it as an input whenever I quit the program, or will I have to input it again whenever I start it?

Please be sure to ping me if replied to, I don't check here often

[viscid fern]

Yes, they will persist.

[elfin peak]

Even across PC reboots?

[fierce mango]

that's correct

[elfin peak]

Okay, thanks

[ruby stump]

Ok has anybody else noticed this like I don’t know how to put it like latency and buzz when adding certain channels into wave link 3?

[severe urchin]

Had the same issue that i couldnt add any input device anymore with latest version. I had fortunately the old version still as install package and for now its working again. i guess i will wait before i update again.

[elfin peak]

So... just tried Wave Link 3 for the second time, and OH MY GOD! I've been missing out. The stream deck plugin has like 10 actions compared to GoXLR's one, and you can actually group programs by channel

[short briar]

and its only beta too

[short briar]

what channels?

[elfin peak]

Wait wait wait, are you saying release can be BETTER? I don't see how much better it can get

[short briar]

this past update helped made it better for me but it can once more people find more ways they want it to work

[compact falcon]

how do you connect your non elgato mic to wave link 3.0

[elfin peak]

I would imagine just plug it in and Wave should detect it

add it as an input to your mixer channel

[compact falcon]

how would you do that 😭

[compact falcon]

theres no options for input there for me

[elfin peak]

huh weird

[short briar]

you might need to update the beta it just came out today

[high valve]

yep after the update today that what I get too no option for mic

[elfin peak]

Wave 3 came out of beta today?

[compact falcon]

oh so should i downgrade to beta version 2

[high valve]

no still beta just an update

[short briar]

there was an update today

[compact falcon]

im on beta version 3 rn

[short briar]

should be 3.0.0 (1874)

[compact falcon]

yupp

i can lock my default input to my mic

but im not able to actually do anything with it

[short briar]

once you create a channel can u see if you can search for your mic in that channel?

[compact falcon]

sadly not

it shows the same as it does when creating a channel

[short briar]

click on the show more

[compact falcon]

i have and all it shows are apps

no mic input or anything

im gonna uninstall and downlaod the beta update 2 to see if itll help

[elfin peak]

got a question. I want to be able to run SFX through my mic for GTA RP. However, I don't really want my voice to come through during the SFX. Is there a way to handle this?

[compact falcon]

beta update 2 works

[elfin peak]

please ping if replied to

[short briar]

are u use voicemod on that sfx channel?

[elfin peak]

No I use stream deck

[short briar]

guessing the built in soundboard?

[elfin peak]

yeah

[elfin peak]

Why, does voicemod allow you to cancel voice input while playing SFX?

[ruby stump]

Like when I added music channel it would barely be audible and struggle to play and sound like muffled and static

[short briar]

the voicemod is pretty common one and people have a some videos of that in the #1291136160676188172

[short briar]

ah mine was chat problem as when the app was in the mix was bad

[ruby stump]

Yea seemed only solution was to delete channels then add the music in then re add other channels

[short briar]

remember it is beta so make sure u reprot it on the reddit

[hardy basin]

Since today I have the same problem… I can no longer add any hardware inputs — sound cards, microphones, etc. I wanted to add a mixing console and realized that nothing can be found. There’s an endlessly long list of software, but no hardware.

[short briar]

he or she redownload the update and it worked for them so maybe try that if you havent #wave-audio message

[civic jay]

Are other people having issues with WaveLink 3 on macOS where they can't use the Elgato Equalizer?

[short briar]

I havent seen anything your best bet is wait tell are awesome @pure wing can help you( shes the local mac person) or go to the reddit post @civic jay https://www.reddit.com/r/elgato/comments/1pk60fe/beta_megathread_wave_link_30_windows_update_3/

[civic jay]

Got it.
I submitted a bug report already. Found this: https://www.reddit.com/r/elgato/comments/1pd9f16/comment/ns4ci7c/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

Wasn't sure if people here knew about the issue or a simple fix that I've overlooked.

Thanks!

[pure wing]

What’s up?

[pure wing]

I can test this after work, or my lunch break.

[hardy basin]

Yes, thanks. I’m back on Update 2, and everything is working again now

[short briar]

he needed mac help and your the only one I know that has a mac and sorry for tag while you are at work

[covert fern]

Hi. After this update, i can't find the virtual audio, i see people having issues like that but anyone find any solution?

[solemn wyvern]

Several of us use macs
I do very limited beta stuff though, if that’s what this is about. Need my studio computer to be solid for work.

[covert fern]

Its in the system but i unable to select on beta wave link =/

[solemn wyvern]

Wave link doesn’t usually select its own virtual devices.
Not sure what you mean with this

[covert fern]

Before this update, i was able to select virtual audio, and now i can't. Virtual audio is what Beta use to do a second sound system. But now, i can't select virtual audio as output to config in my OBS or even in the beta program.

[solemn wyvern]

I’m sorry, I’m having trouble understanding you.

So, is the problem that:
in OBS you’re trying to add an audio source, and the one you want is not in the list?

[covert fern]

Yup

[solemn wyvern]

Ok, usually this turns out to be you’re adding the wrong kind of audio source.
“Audio input source” is where you’ll find outputs from wave link.
Because to computers outputs are things like speakers, and inputs are things like microphones….wave link flips this around so it’s outputs appear to the system as inputs, so they can be used by apps which are receiving audio.

All this is to say, I bet you’ve added the wrong kind of audio source by accident.

[covert fern]

Like i said. After this beta update, i can only use 2 sources of audio and both is not "Elgato Virtual Audio". Yesterday everything was fine and now this problem.

[solemn wyvern]

Isn’t this mix output going to OBS? You don’t need to route it to a hardware device.
Just let OBS pick up the mix output.

If your mix is created in wave link… you’re done there.
Go to OBS and add the audio source

[covert fern]

But i need select a output here to work and mute google chrome on stream. If i select my USB Audio Device, i can't mute there

[solemn wyvern]

You don’t need to select an output there unless you want that mix to go to hardware
Leave this list empty so it will be a virtual device only.

Isn’t that what you want? Because this mix is meant for OBS?

[covert fern]

So i do this?

I'll test like this

[solemn wyvern]

Yes

[covert fern]

One moment please ^^"

[solemn wyvern]

(As long as you want that sound always on. Global audio)

[covert fern]

oooo worked.

Thank you very much ❤️

[solemn wyvern]

Selecting an output device for your mixes is only if you want that mix sent to an actual hardware device.
(This has always been true for wave link, by the way)

Ok?

[covert fern]

Its wierd because before this update, i need select a output to work in OBS.

Or maybe i config wrong.

But it's working, thank again ❤️

[solemn wyvern]

I think you’re misremembering, or really, even if you select a device I think the virtual device might still be addressable by OBS so, maybe you did that before… but you didn’t need to.

Hopefully as this beta start to round out and stop moving fast we will get better setup directions

[covert fern]

And God Bless you to be here every update ^^"

[trail kayak]

before u can mute urself and also put Level Meter+Volume Slider, this starts happening after last update of wavelink 3.0 i use it alot so can u add again that function? Also, did you update the Wavelink 3.0 plugin? That might be why, it may have auto-updated and I didn't realize

also is this normal in wavelink 3.0? (is my games mixer)

[solemn wyvern]

I’m not testing the beta on windows , but typically the stream deck plugin needs to be updated for every wave link update.
So would recommend doing them together or waiting. But I haven’t looked at this specific update.

[trail kayak]

i check if the plugins needs an update but it tells me is already up to date

[short briar]

I just answered u in #stream-deck @trail kayak about that

[trail kayak]

ok i go read now haha

[azure wing]

This morning, I turned my pc on, and all of my Wave channels disappeared. They still appear in Streamdeck, just not linked to anything, obviously.

[short briar]

there was an update today if ur talking about the beta

[azure wing]

Not sure it's setup on Beta or not, but just thought it frustrating as now if I can't restore, I have to remember how I set it all up!

[blissful crag]

can some one help me set up elgato wave link 3.0 im lost

[trail kayak]

there is a video from nutty that explain very well how to setup https://youtu.be/TUwnvqHX4Xg

[blissful crag]

tysm

[blissful crag]

how do i make an audio micropone channel

[solemn wyvern]

Can you clarify what you mean?

[night rivet]

Has this been responded to?

[dry relic]

Latest Wave Link update got flagged by BitDefender

[past furnace]

does anyone now how to set and /or use this?
I can't this as an option anywhere

[civic jay]

Not urgent. Not the end of the world. I just want to use Elgato Equalizer and it won't show up for me, even though it says it's installed successfully.

[solemn wyvern]

Probably a beta feature, right?
I haven’t played with it but general UI conventions point to that drop down on the right side with headphone icons on it.

[past furnace]

I literally don't know where that is in the UI. Is it specific for Wave Mics?

[solemn wyvern]

Umm I don’t think so in wl3

Should be when you click on a inout device to show its settings. Like where you add plugins

[hollow hazel]

just downloaded wave link 3.0, using a cheap fifine xlr (currently plugged in by usb, waiting on xlr dock) and i cant get it to pull up anywhere on wl3.

[solemn wyvern]

Add an input, and it should show all your connected audio devices and apps.

[severe urchin]

New input devices seems to be broken in latest beta version. If you use older version there you can add the input devices and if you update afterwards wave link they will be there. But if you delete them or install latest version directly and then trying to add. Then there is no input device available. At least for me I have this issue on 2 different set ups at home

[thick spear]

i dunno if this is the right channel forgive me if it is not im having trouble getting my mic to work with wavelink on discord if that makes any sense all this stuff is new to me and iv got ChatGbt leading me in cercle for hours

[thorn mist]

I am also experiencing this issue.
Had to completely uninstall Wave Link 3.0 and reinstall an older version.

Lost all my settings as a result.

[thick spear]

is there a video that actually talks about the 3.0 beta because i can not find any good in deth one

[fierce mango]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUwnvqHX4Xg

[thick spear]

Thank you will this help me figure out why it isnt working for my discord ?

[fierce mango]

do you have a screenshot of your wave link and which mix you're using on discord?

[warm raft]

I'm using the latest version of the wave link 3.0 beta. I'm using a Shure MV7+ via USB-C. I was getting a lot of background noise so I purchased Elgato Voice Focus and added it to my mic. I wasn't getting any reduction in background noise like keyboard/mouse clicks. I noticed there was a new version of Voice Focus available that seems like it could fix my issue. I have a "Download started" banner at the top of the application for the 1.0.0.72 version of Voice Focus but it's been stuck like that for a while. Is there something preventing this from installing? How can I check what version of voice focus I have installed?

[thick spear]

Hey sorry i didnt see your message and too be completely honest with you i have no idea what that is ill just send some screenshots XD

hopefully im doing it right if not i will follow that video tmr

[fierce mango]

it should look like this

[thick spear]

Just to make sure I don’t need an elgato mic for this one right ?

[fierce mango]

yeah, you don't really need it there unless you wanna test ur mic since there's a build in option to record your voice when editing it

[thick spear]

Okey thank you for taking time to try and help me much appreciated I will copy your photo tomorrow and see if that works 😅 I will also look at that video you sent 😊

[fierce mango]

video should way easier to follow and np 👍

[thick spear]

Believe or not I’m not good at following instructions chatgbt lead me in a circle for couple of hours 😅🤣

[magic lava]

Anyone using the Wave DX? Care to shre your settings for it?

[rain goblet]

It will come down to how your voice is, how soundtreated your space is and backgroundnoise etc. But for me, I use 60% gain, VoiceFocus at 45% and the Elgato Compressor with 2dB makeup gain, rest default

[gritty jackal]

Also what interface you're using and personal preference

I've got mine at ~45 dB running on Wave XLR, and basically just turned on Voice Focus in Wave Link and called it a day for the most part.

Though I do have a secondary effect chain I sometimes play with

My Voice Focus is a littler higher than yours though - about 80%. Becasue there's so much road noise and sometimes noise from upstairs neighbor

[rain goblet]

Ah, when people are awake and loud I use around 80% also

right now it's 8.10AM and noone is doing anything so it's kalm :3

[magic lava]

I use Wave XLR I wouldn't say my room is necessarily soundtreated but I use it on the Wave Mic Arm and speak about a fist away I just never seem to be able to get results others do but I may just be judging my own voice too harshly

[rain goblet]

Also everyones voice is different, you may not get the 'podcasty' voice if you don't have enough bass in your voice etc

[magic lava]

this is what I am currently using

just voice vocus on its own with a compressor i can hear every little click on my keyboard and breath out of my nose 😒

[rain goblet]

Make sure you're not listening to the raw audio from the headphone port or something

[magic lava]

ive got a wireless headset its outputting to, probably not the best eh?

[rain goblet]

I do that too, much more convenient 😛

sure not the best but eh ^^

and if you hear that much background stuff you probably have your gain too high

a way to not get nosebreathing is to have the mic offset from you, still same distance but from the side

[magic lava]

ill give that a go

[rain goblet]

DeeGate that you have is also a good addition in general

[magic lava]

yeah that is what cancels out pretty much everything for me that ive found works the best

[rain goblet]

but removing ALL noise will also make your mic cut in and out when you go slightly quieter than the gate

so sparing use is the best

I rather hear some background than a jumpy mic on a video on youtube tbh

[magic lava]

true

when setting my initial gain before adding voice focus or anything else, is there a db level i should reach generally?

[rain goblet]

I can't really see the dB, but I generally keep mine at the end of green, beginning of yellow for my regular speakingvoice

@gritty jackal pls halp 😛

[magic lava]

thanks for answering my n00b questions 🙂

[gritty jackal]

Uh, I've got Wave Link 2 on this rig, it convers to dB when you actually click the slider

[rain goblet]

I tend to do a lot of testrecordings when I'm setting up a mic, live is much worse since I tend to tense up hearing myself xD

[gritty jackal]

DX is suggested at 45 to start wit normally

and tune from there

[magic lava]

i have been using OBS audio meter to monitor the level

okey dokey

[rain goblet]

I can breathe quite hard without it being picked up at all with VoiceFocus at 80%

[magic lava]

also maybe a bug but I think the % is bugged out in WL 3

[rain goblet]

I barely breathe generally though, very small quiet breaths xD

nah the bars in Wave Link 3 shows the raw audio

not the output

it shows before any effects

[magic lava]

the voice focus meter being all the way down to Weak and showing 70% you mean?

[rain goblet]

no, the green bar at the bottom

[magic lava]

oh i meant the voice focus meter sry, it's hard to tell what % i actually have it on

[rain goblet]

also, those sliders and stuff shouldn't be gray unless that's some customization in Windows affecting

Here's what mine looks like for reference

[magic lava]

yeah i think its my windows personalization script i used a while back

[rain goblet]

ah

I got confussled xD

[magic lava]

lol i didnt realize it was blue to begin with xd

just the dx at 45db gain and nothing else picks up everything pretty loudly

[rain goblet]

them being gray made me wonder if your effects was muted or something xd

well yeah, a raw mic will pick up everything in the room

[magic lava]

i think ive got in a good spot now

maybe its just my room as well

DeeGate is too necessary for me it seems

[rain goblet]

I prefer to use it too

but only tuned down to the roomnoise, nothing above

[cloud roost]

Good Morning, apologies for answering a different question (I don't want to derail any ongoing conversations) but I'm re-jigging my rig and can't find the answer anywhere.

I'm using an Elgato Wave DX, with the XLR dock through a Stream Deck +. My question is, what throughput (interface) does this require? 5Gbps? Or 10GGps? Thanks in advance!

Ooo actually I reckon I've answered it myself. It's currently plugged into a USB-C 3.1 Gen 1 (up to 5Gpbs) and works fine! So I guess thats the answer!

[gritty jackal]

It should actually only need USB 2.0, 480 Mbps. But 3.1 works fine too

[cloud roost]

Ooo amazing, thank you!

Could I be cheeky and ask about Facecam 4K while I'm here? 😅 I reckon thats 10Gpbs right?

[gritty jackal]

Facecam 4K is 5 Gbps, USB 3.0 for most formats up to 4K (4K60 uses MJPEG compression). It'll work on USB 2 at up to 1080p60 using MJPG as well.

If you want uncompressed NV12, it needs USB 3, and that only works up to 4K30 or 1440p60. The main benefit is the uncompressed veresion has slightly better video latency.

[cloud roost]

Nice one thank you so much!

[gritty jackal]

No problem, good luck with it

[wooden thunder]

Hi everyone, what’s the situation with the new Wave Link software? Do you think it’s worth switching already? Are there still many bugs, and can the old Wave Link presets be transferred to the new version?

[gritty jackal]

The old presets cannot be moved over - the app was completely rebulit from the ground up so the old setting backups are no longer compatible.

Some folks have moved over with no real issues, some others still get problems - it depends on your setup, the only real way to be sure is to test it.

[heady fern]

new update ignores my system audio output

can't hear audio unless i set the monitoring in beta app in that output instead

or if kill the app entirely

[solemn wyvern]

Meaning you set your primary monitor device at top and the ear icon on the mix you want to hear… doesn’t work?

[heady fern]

no what I mean is, app ignores WINDOWS system audio output settings, if I disable the monitor in the app, there will be no audio at all, need to set monitor just to hear audio

i would love to move back to the stable Wavelink 2.x but it wont work without a compatible device, but it's having an aneurysm to detect my streamdeck+ so I can't use the app

[solemn wyvern]

I see. That’s a bit beyond what I can speak to since I haven’t done any windows testing for this beta.
I am testing a little on Mac and in that case whenever wave link is running it fully takes over the audio system. Sound not routed through it doesn’t work.
Maybe an exclusive control thing, which might be needed to achieve the latency targets. Windows audio drivers are lots of different standards mixed together so I could see why exclusive control could be important.
But anyway, sounds like it works the way it worked for me on Mac.
But…. Report testing feedback on the Reddit!

[keen blade]

WaveCast:
1.1.3 (2313):
Windows:
When I first got WaveCast it worked wonderfully for like the first 2 days. Then it just kinda stopped. I can hear all audio from both PCs but I cannot be heard in game chat. I will be happy to provide any and all information on specs, current settings and programs in use. Im just confused as to why it would work so well then just stop:

[keen blade]

Wavecast is not reconizing my game as an open app. Could that be a reason why I can hear but they cant hear me?

[wooden thunder]

This would be my last question, and since you’d be the one answering, I’ll ask you directly: does the new Wave Link software have any real new features or improvements that make it worth switching, or is it mostly just a visual redesign?

[rain goblet]

First of all, it has up to 5 submixes, Wave Link 2 only had 3 (Monitor, MicrophoneFX and Stream Mix)

[solemn wyvern]

Up to 5 output mixes, totally configurable. Instead of the two fixed ones before and the one direct out for the mic.
And being not hardware locked.
Those are the major new features.

Oh it was already answered. Mostly haha

[rain goblet]

I got ADHD'd and forgot to finish xD

[elfin peak]

Can the Wave XLR and the Wave 3 work at the same time, or no?

[gritty jackal]

Yes, but not with Wave Link 2. They'll work with Windows audio at the same time, but Wave Link 2 will throw an error about dual devices.
Wave Link 3 Beta can handle both at once though

[elfin peak]

Okay, so you can use both knobs to control channel volumes? Nice

[gritty jackal]

No, you can't control Wave:3 with Wave XLR or vice versa, they can still only change their own volume

[elfin peak]

Not talking about the mic volume, talking about the other two

personal mix, system, etc

[gritty jackal]

The dials on Wave XLR and Wave:3 only change the device volume, so your input channel for the device, not any of the mixes or software channels

[elfin peak]

Oh okay

[magic lava]

Are there any plans to separate Discord into 2 tracks like before? Especially with Voice Focus being able to be added onto the Voice Channel, I can no longer hear a lot of soundboard effects

[gleaming chasm]

I've been struggling with wave link 3 the last few days. I had it working to where my friends could here my voicemod sounds and I'm not sure what I did but now it's all messed up. Could anyone help with this?

[wooden thunder]

There won’t be any issues with the presets saved in VST plugins, right? For example, will the presets I saved in the Elgato EQ or other Elgato plugins disappear, or are they kept?

[solemn wyvern]

Plugins can store their presets in their own folders. Would be recallable between different apps just like pro tools and Logic Pro.
But that’s up to the plugin developer to make their system.

[past raft]

Problem with Wavelink 3.0. I transitioned from Wave 2.0 however now my microphone wont fully output the FX. When I test it after adding the FX on mic by recording in that window it works fine. However once I record on my PC by selecting chat mic (the mic is added there the effects are not applied.

I have ensured the FX icon in the channel is lit green showing enabled.

Any ideas?

[pale garnet]

Problem with Wave Cast, I can't get it to work. It keeps saying "no remote PC found"

[rain goblet]

Are both of your PC's meeting the requirements, and on the same network?

[pale garnet]

Both same Network, same subnet, both Win11

[rain goblet]

Then I suggest reaching out to #official-tech-support so they can send you the diagnostic tool to see what’s going on

[jagged pulsar]

Back to this issue again. Seems it wasn't resolved.

People in my discord voice chat are hearing themselves through my discord when they talk and my mic is activated. I can't seem to figure out what is causing it.

Using Wavelink 2.0 with Stream Deck+ and XLR dock with a XLR mic.

My Discord is routed through voice chat channel in wavelink.
If I set the discord app to route through Voice chat in windows volume mixer I get double play system sounds through discord. If I set that to my headphone amp, I get normal, but it doesn't fix the voice chat echo for others.

I am using a seperate headphone amp rather than the one on the XLR dock.

[solemn wyvern]

Can we see a screenshot of your wave link window, and discord voice chat settings screen?

[jagged pulsar]

Done. You want windows mixer settings too?

I had default sound and communication device set to wave link system and voice chat but since I'm using a seperate headphone amp that might make a feedback loop?

[solemn wyvern]

Ok that all looks right on the surface,….
Oh that part is wrong..

[solemn wyvern]

Windows default input should be microphoneFX.
Output can be wave link system.

But discord is correctly routed so your windows defaults don’t matter to discord.

The communication device default should match the normal default

[jagged pulsar]

Defaults maybe, but if I route discord through voice chat in here instead of my headphone amp (speakers 2- Fiio Q series) then I get double discord system sounds so that's creating a feedback loop in the discord system sounds. The discord sounds are playing back through voice chat. Aren't they supposed to be in the system channel?

By discord system sounds I mean the notification sounds when you join a voice channel and so on, for clarification.

[solemn wyvern]

You can separate discord beeps from the voice chat, but discord doesn’t have a setting for this, so you would need to use the one-click routing in wave link to assign discord to the system channel. But then reset discords internal settings for voice chat output to the voice chat channel.

Never route anything directly to your headphones.

Click the plus at top of the system channel and click discord there.

But remember to check that discord voice is still set to voice chat internally.

You shouldn’t ever need to look at the windows mixer settings screen except to set your default output to wave link system and default mic to microphoneFX

[jagged pulsar]

Okay, so my windows volume mixer shouldn't be set to my headphone amp. It's strange that it does seem to make a feedback loop when set to voice chat, but I'll set it back to voice chat and add discord to system also as you suggest. Discord output is set to Voice chat in discord settings.

[solemn wyvern]

Yeah you’re bypassing wave link any time you route directly to your output device

Not sure why that would cause a loop, but clearly something is going on. So wanting to get to a standard routing config

[jagged pulsar]

I figured something was bypassing wave link, just wasn't sure. I'm new to all this.

Windows defaults don't matter at all then?

[solemn wyvern]

Windows default matter for where sound goes by default.
So that’s why we set input to microphoneFX and output to a wave link channel.
I actually use the game channel, so I don’t have to route every game. But system is what I think most people use

[jagged pulsar]

It's still routing discord system sounsd through voice chat even with discord added to system

[solemn wyvern]

Let’s try restarting the whole computer after doing that.
This does work on my system right now.

[jagged pulsar]

I am pretty much just using this to control game volume, I'm not actually streaming again just to clarify.

Okay. I'll restart.

[solemn wyvern]

But I would rather work out getting the voice chat system to work before fussing with getting the beeps to a different channel

[jagged pulsar]

Agreed

[solemn wyvern]

I’m worried with all the messing around something might have gotten set weird in the windows mixer. It should all basically follow what you set it wave link, since wave link is just a front end for that, basically.

[warm talon]

i dont know how i would search for this within here. But ill post it.
what does it mean that the secondary dropdowns are "red"? Conflicting?

I am trying to setup the plugin to be able to switch my audio between my headphones (gaming mode) and speaker (relax/entertainment mode)

[jagged pulsar]

Most likely something around that.

Okay my discord system sounds are going to system in wave link now but wavelink system isn't showing under system sound devices in windows mixer at all and I get no sound from it through my headphones,

I can see the bar for the sound in wave link so it is going through system but the wave link system device isn't showing in the mixer under system sounds, but it is under app specific in the windows mixer

[solemn wyvern]

Maybe. Is one of them already your system default?
Sorry I don’t use stream deck with wave link, currently.

[solemn wyvern]

I’m confused by this.
But to set your default output device just click the speaker icon in the system tray. Does that work?

[jagged pulsar]

App system sounds only has default as an option, nothing else shows up

Same for input and output

[solemn wyvern]

Oh oh

Windows doesn’t allow the “system sounds” app to be changed. That’s always default

Which is why people might prefer to have their system default be the wave link system channel

[solemn wyvern]

But this
In this mmsys.cool window. Make your defaults match. The system channel should be default output and communications output.
Make these match on the recording tab also

This might be the source of the problem

[jagged pulsar]

Match discord settinjgs?

[solemn wyvern]

No, March each other

They should both be the same

[warm talon]

i dont think so? im just confused a to why it's red/unavailable to use

[solemn wyvern]

And again to you, the system default and the communications default should be the same.
Output:wave link system
Input: microphoneFX

[jagged pulsar]

So communications should not be voice chat default, okay

And default for recording should both be MicrophoneFX?

[solemn wyvern]

This is maybe what was causing people to hear themselves when you talk.

Yes

[warm talon]

Oh EVERYTHING should be going through the elgato virtual audio

[solemn wyvern]

Yes. Everything. Everywhere. All the time. 😎

Wave link is the boss

[warm talon]

even my salary? lol

gotcha ok done

[solemn wyvern]

The everything bagel

[warm talon]

restart the software after? Or it should take effect right away?

[jagged pulsar]

Okay so done this. I'm going to restart again. Nothing from my headphones yet.

[solemn wyvern]

And then as long as your monitor mix is set to the desired listening device it should work fine.

And if it doesn’t…. Then I’m starting to think about wiping the app out and starting from scratch with a new install.

[jagged pulsar]

Okay, now nothing is coming through to my headphones at all.

I see the bars in wavelink moving when stuff is played but there's no sound in my headphones in any channel.

wait

My headphone amp has disapeared in wavelink on the mixes

[solemn wyvern]

And what if you connect your headphones to the wavexlr and set that as the monitor output in wave link?

[jagged pulsar]

Headphones (Elgato XLR dock) shows up in the monitor mix so that would work but I can't select my headphone amp anymore. It's gone from the list

My speakers are there too but not the headphone amp

And it will play through speakers fine

Its gone from windows mixer too 😕

So thats why its not showing in wave link but why is it gone from windows mixer...

Turned the amp off and on again that's fixed that

Seems like it might be fixed. No double system sounds and its coming through the right channel now. Just need to test for a bit longer to make sure it doesn't happen again but looks good for now.

Thanks a lot for the help, greatly appreciated. I'll report back on results.

[solemn wyvern]

Ok great!
Yeah so sounds like the device list needed to refresh.

I bet the communications default device was the primary issue you were having.

Windows should be able to turn that crap right off completely. I think it’s for windows devices that can act like a phone or something.
Anyway. Go forth and have fun!

[fluid cave]

I hope it's the right place to ask. But do you guys know of a place I could send a clip of my audio for someone to critique it and or give tips on sound? Specifically for livestream and a sample of me talking doing the "checks" 😂

[naive pelican]

So I figured it out

in regards to the MicrophoneFX issue I've been having

With Wave Link 3.0, you have to create your own mixer (rename it if you want) and add your microphone and SFX channel to that mixer and then set that to your input device for that game. For example, I have it set for FiveM so I can play sounds through my stream deck and it routes through the microphonefx mixer into the game with my mic as well

Wave Link 2.0 was just a simple button press and a dedicated input device already on your pc if you have an elgato microphone

[trail kayak]

I turn on my PC again and the audio doesn't play. I have WaveLink set to start with Windows, but I think this causes some kind of problem. In the WaveLink 3.0 beta 1 it didn't happen before. Now I noticed that if I restart WaveLink it fixes the issue, but it's annoying to have to do that every time I boot my PC

[naive pelican]

On the main mixer you use, is the ear icon selected on that mixer?

[dreamy bay]

Hi everyone, first time user here! I'm trying to install Wave Link 3 (I just got a MAONO PD400X mic), but I can't seem to install the audio drivers. As soon as I click the "Install Driver" button, I just get a super quick "Windows Installer" window that is just visible for a few frames before it disappears. After that the install drivers button is just greyed out until I restart the app. Any ideas? Thanks!

[trail kayak]

ye

[naive pelican]

Have you installed Wave Link 2.0 before? (or should I say before installing WL 3.0, did you have 2.0 on your pc)

[dreamy bay]

I did. I missed that 3.0 was a different beta download, so I installed 2 first before I realized. I uninstalled 2 before trying to install 3.0

[trail kayak]

is a problem with this apps or idk if i wanna fix i need to restart the app or press twice this icon (red rectangle)

[naive pelican]

When youn uninstalled 2, did you restart your pc before reinstalling?

[dreamy bay]

I'm 87% sure that I did

[naive pelican]

It's a shame that they don't have vc channels to help further with these issues

wait, just to clarify, you said you were having issues hearing any sound on your pc or just the music?

[trail kayak]

when i uninstall something i use BCUninstaller cuz it remove everything even in the regedit so later if i need install something is 100% fresh (srry bad eng)

is open source program but people also use revo uninstaller so u choose

[solemn wyvern]

Yes, because in 3 all the outputs are created by the user, not fixed.

[elfin peak]

You know what, as soon as my Wave 3 gets here I am SOOOOOOOO done with the GoXLR. The support is dead anyways, so I think from my Wave 3, I am going to save up for a stream deck + and XLR port, PLUS a SM7B

[little ocean]

Hi All, I need help - posted to reddit to explain:

https://www.reddit.com/r/elgato/comments/1pmnb6v/wavelink_20_audio_output_not_switching/

[solemn wyvern]

Wave link can only back sound that is routed to it.
While your mixer config was imported from backup, I bet the routing of apps need to be reassigned since the install will have created new virtual devices what don’t have the same ids as before (from the system’s perspective; not the visible name you see)

Also our system default audio devices still need to be set.

The default input should mic microphoneFX and the default output should be a wave link channel. System or game are common.
Open mmsys.cpl to set these quickly.

[raw stone]

hey guy i need some help,i use wave link 3.0 and i cant get start app at login to work,when i try to enable it it just goes back to disablled,when i click on taskmanager and manage autostart it says deactivates,when i enable it there and try to enabkle it in the app it does the same

[little ocean]

Hi,

So I set the output to System and the audio output switch works, but it doesn't actually monitor anything, I get volume but at 100%, for example, If I want to turn down the volume on my Spotify channel, nothing will change

[solemn wyvern]

In this picture, nothing is happening on the Spotify channel. So turning that down won’t do anything.

[little ocean]

But why is nothing happening?

[solemn wyvern]

You mean why is Spotify playing into your system channel instead of the one it “looks” like it’s routed to?

My guess was included in my first reply.
I think you have to redo all that routing because the driver was removed and fully replaced twice, so the device id numbers aren’t the same.

[little ocean]

Ok, I deleted all channels but it's got kinda like a cache? Its retaining what the previous channels were, any way to fully reset the software?

[solemn wyvern]

Can you play Spotify and then click on another channel to route it there. And then click to the music channel to route it back?

[solemn wyvern]

Well it seems pretty screwy and the routing tables are clearly all messed up.

I think the move here is to uninstall, then remove the wavelink folder at $user/appdata/…/elgato/

(or move it to desktop, to keep your backups and logs and stuff, if you need those)

Then restart. Then reinstall.

[little ocean]

Think maybe I should delete all audio drivers?

[solemn wyvern]

This uninstall should clear it up.
You removed wl3 before going back to wl2, right?

[little ocean]

I did

[solemn wyvern]

Yeah I think uninstall and remove the settings files.
Will be a true fresh start

[little ocean]

Reinstalled and restarted, can confirm it to be working as intended now

[solemn wyvern]

Excellent.

Yeah seems like restoring the backup after all the audio stuff was totally replaced twice was just not going to work.

[little ocean]

Many thanks for your help

I do have one more question though, I'm trying to link Google Chrome to the browser channel, doesn't appear though (it's currently open) anyway to manually do it?

[solemn wyvern]

Pls won’t show up until they play sound.

[little ocean]

I'm such an idiot 😂 Thanks again!

[abstract widget]

Can anyone helpe me with an issue im having with wave cast? audios sending properly however i hear my streaming pc Mic in the headphones, so im hearing myself talk

[solemn wyvern]

Turn off “all audio”

[atomic quartz]

Just downloaded the Wave Link 3.0 beta, as it offers tremendous promise to enable me to sit Voicemeeter aside in a dual PC gaming/recording setup. Everything works great except that mic audio is garbled and scratchy when going through the HDMI audio connection with system audio from the gaming PC. Everything points to a need to adjust an input buffer setting, but I am unable to find one in the WL3 beta. Anyone have any similar experience and found workarounds?

[glad terrace]

did anyone figure out the discord crikling bug in wave 3.0?

[tepid sail]

I have been having trouble since the lastest Wavelink update on 3.0. Now it's not picking up OBS studios to add to the mix.

When I stream there is no audio from the Desktop coming through . Can someone help with this?

[swift ruin]

Im having an issue where my game audio cuts in and out when it's through wave link in 3.0. When I take it out of wave link it's fine...?

[paper basin]

does anyone else on windows 11 using the Wave Link 3.0 Beta 1891 having issues with what i assume is a memory leak? audiodg.exe just slowly creeping up to 11+ gigs until i reboot or somehow restart the process. the only VSTs i am using/have enabled is Reaper and Elgatos

[hushed palm]

like me. the new version is a garbage

[hushed palm]

for me i returned to the old version

[gritty jackal]

It's all well and good to be rolling back if you're hitting issues, but don't forget to report issues on the beta megathreads so they know folks are having them and can get them fixed before it goes to general release instead of beta 🙂

[elfin peak]

Why's that? Do they manually stop squashing bugs after beta ends?

[gritty jackal]

No, but it's better to identify issues earlier - it's largely the point of having a beta testing phase. Also they tend to release beta test builds more quickly than final product builds, since they are in fact test builds not final products. Plus as they get further through testing more and more things get finalized - if something that's causing a bug gets too far along in development it can be more work to get it resolved.

[sturdy finch]

im having the same exact problem as i bought my new dac/amp and i plugged my new headphone there instead of the wave 3 and i started to have the same exact problem everything that i routed to wave link is echoing but if i remove it from there it all fixes , also putting anything on system doesnt do anything for me how can i fix that ?

[solemn wyvern]

Echoing?
That’s not the same problem.

Can we see your wave link screen shot?

And did you do any reinstalling or swapping back and forth to the beta wave link 3?

[sturdy finch]

yeah like double sound or echos

i dont use the wave link 3.0 i use 2.0 but i meant my mic is

and no i havent reinstalled or swapped back i just plugged it differently as i used to plug my headphone on the mic directly and use headphone but now im using this

[solemn wyvern]

Your default output is wrong. This is bypassing wave link and going directly to your output device.
Instead choose a wave link channel as your default so all sound will go to wave link.

And if you open mmsys.cpl
Make sure the communications defaults also match your default.

You don’t want those being different and it’s confusing when that causes issues

[sturdy finch]

i mean i used game channel as default and routed things there still same tried system

not really sure what else i can do

[sturdy finch]

checked that and all is default matched

[solemn wyvern]

Ok, then let’s get specific.
What exactly is echoing?

Is your listening device a speaker, or headphones?

Don you have any “listen to this device on…” set for any device in mmsys.cpl?

Are there any other apps running when you hear this echo?

[sturdy finch]

so im using a moondrop dawn dac/amp and i connected my 6xx headphone to it instead of the back of the elgato 3 , anything i play that is routed through the wave link is double sound ppl can hear them selves music,browser,games, all doubled sounds , before i used to have my HD599 and plugged in the back of wave 3 and all worked well as the default would be headphones wave 3 but now when i select that no sound at all but for the rest of the wave channels i can

as for listen to this device none of them is selected

[solemn wyvern]

So when you switch back to using the wave 3 headphone port it behaves normally? No echo?

And did you change that default audio setting like I suggested?
(From your response I can’t tell if you changed it, or if you’re saying you tried it that way before)

[sturdy finch]

yes it behaves normally as i checked right now when i switched back to plugging it on the mic directly , and yes sir i did try what u suggested before but it didnt seem to work

[solemn wyvern]

In this picture, your default is still set wrong.
You should select a wave link channel, such as system or game; not an output device directly.
But that still wouldn’t cause an echo, it just might cause confusion.

But if the echo doesn’t happen when monitor mix is set to the wave 3 headphone out… then the problem is in the other device.
Your discord settings are correct and the wave link mixer looks correct.

The only difference between monitor mix going to wave 3 headphone port vs another output device…. Is that direct monitoring of the mic won’t be possible, and a little bit of additional latency.

Set like you have it, wave link can’t cause an echo

And doesn’t, as we see when you route to the wave 3 headphone port.

[sturdy finch]

thing is when i set to system as default output i dont hear anything at all not sure whats the case for that

i unplugged and replugged and seems to be working now

[solemn wyvern]

That’s probably because your monitor mix is set to follow your default.
You’ll need to set it directly.
The confusion when using a default device that bypasses wave link is just that… some of your sound can bypass wave link and it can be confusing. This is exactly why I recommend against using output devices directly with wave link

So you restarted the usb audio device and now it’s working?

[sturdy finch]

not really i plugged the headphone back to the amp and it still double audio even after setting the default to system

i followed the routing on your video as well but also it still same thing i think wave link just doesnt like plugging ur headphone somewhere else other than the mic

[solemn wyvern]

No, you can use any audio device on your computer (with the note that direct mic monitoring is only possible whith the on-device headphone port, and that latency will be a little higher with an external device)

what this is showing us, is that there is something the other USB device is doing that is doubling the audio.

Did you say no other apps were running? If you checked the rest of my suggestions like that, then I don't see where the echo could be coming from. we have ruled out everything else. The wave link mixer is not doing it.

so all that's left is this USB device. I don't know about that device and it could be doing something to cause this somehow.

If you want more info, you could test by taking wave link out of the audio path. Close wave link completely and select this other device as your output for the computer.

[sturdy finch]

no other apps running other than spotify,stream deck,wave link,medal,browser,game / it just doubles the sound when i plug to the dac/amp but when i go back to wave 3 port it works fine , i tried what u said taking wave link out and using the sound directly through the dac/amp and it works fine its just when i want to use wave link to control the audio with my stream deck to have a bit of QOL , when i remove all routing from wave link all works normal no double sounds

[solemn wyvern]

(I wasn't suggesting turning off wave link as a solution. Just a test)

So you said no other apps running but then listed a lot of other apps.

What's medal? ..... googling... that's a video capture app.
Turn that off

[torpid vale]

Anyone starting to get serious issue with wave 2.0?

My audio has stopt working completly even with new install of program ..

It just does not work,

[solemn wyvern]

Need much more detailed info to offer any insight as to what’s going on

[torpid vale]

Well not so much to tell.. When I add my browser, or game or discord etc to the input.. nothing happens, no audio.. I can't play any videos on my browser. My mic does not work

As soon as I remove the program from an source it works like normal

Started like 1 month ago or something now

[solemn wyvern]

Ok so, isolate the bits of the process to work out where it’s going wrong.
sound goes into wavelink when you route an app there; do you see the meter moving at the browser channel when you play a youtube video to that channel?
Do you then see sound on the master meter at the bottom of wave link?
If those are yes, then we look at the device selected as the monitor output. Is that device the one you’re currently listing to; are you headphones or speakers selected there?
Is the master fader turned down? Is the green ear on the monitor mix?
Is the volume of your device turned down?

If any of those is no,
And/or you haven’t figured out the issue from this prompting, then let’s see a screen shot of your wave link window.

[torpid vale]

In this moment it works, the program and all works. But when it does not work, I cannot even play any videos. It is just buffering and if I remove the browser from "browser" it will start play right away. There is nothing moving in the program as the program is frozen or not working at that moment.

I always have the green ear on Monitor Mix

[solemn wyvern]

Ah ok, that’s the detail.
so that’s sounding like a driver crash. GPU drivers are most common for triggering this, but anything else that has an audio device in it could be on the suspect list, also.
Restarting the computer is probably the best way to get them all unstuck. Although unplugging your wave device and then plugging it back in might also work.

[torpid vale]

Well, restarting does work sometimes.. or well I try to not as I am maybe already in games and so on, but I have tried the unplug and plug in again but it's the same there.

I have not heard the GPU drivers can be an issue

So I can try to update them or go back to an older version

[sturdy finch]

im aware u didnt suggest i just did it to test thats all

also those apps that were open they were the ones i test the sound with spotify for music browser for videos games for games medal to record and listen so i shut them all down and still i just dont know where the problem is

[solemn wyvern]

Any audio device driver hang can cause wave link /wave device to need to be restarted before it will work right again. GPU is just a most common one that hangs. Check your GPU overclock if it’s hanging a lot and it’s not just a crash game.
Another thing to try is deleting the misbehaving channel and then re-add it to wave link. If it’s just one channel doing it.

[solemn wyvern]

My suspicion is a streaming/recording app could be capturing audio and monitoring it to the device.

If it’s still echoing even when all that stuff is not running… then the only thing we have left to suspect is the audio device itself.

[solemn wyvern]

It’s not necessarily a problematic driver. It’s just if the driver hang happens, which could be from a game crash or unstable overclock; stuff like that.
The audio device crashing will mess with wave link.

Regarding updates, be weary of nvidia drivers. They have been a comedy of errors this past while and the most recent driver from a new days ago is another one causing many problems all over.
Unless you have need of a specific fix listed in update notes for a driver, I would be hesitant to update until it’s been in the wild for some time.

[warped stump]

Just installed the new version of Wave Link 3 for the first time (Windows). My audio output seems to be garbled. Anyone else run in to this issue?

I've confirmed the issue persists using my standard audio output - > Sennheiser GSX1000 -> Magni 3 -> DT1990 headphones and from an alternate Elgato Wave XLR Headphones out -> crinacle Zero wired iems.

[torpid vale]

It's all channels sadly :/

[solemn wyvern]

Yeah, then I think I’m right about the cause and the only fix I know is to close and restart wave link, while also disconnecting and reconnecting the wave device.
Restart computer if that doesn’t work.

[dusk warren]

is the wave 3 plugin for stream deck broken... mine does not populate devices. Tried unstalling etc... and no luck so far.

[warped stump]

Ok, so it looks like the garbled audio happens when I create a blank channel, then add an app in to it.

If I create a channel for the app itself, the audio is fine.

[naive pelican]

Anyone else getting the issue with WL 3.0 where restarting your pc requires you to mute and unmute your channels for you to hear them?

[atomic quartz]

has anyone else noticed the ever-increasing memory usage (a.k.a. memory leak) in WL 3.0? Had my system up for a couple hours and it had consumed almost 32 GB of memory. Didn't notice until the gluttony started to affect other apps.

[atomic quartz]

After restarting it, it seems to be doing appropriate garbage collection and is staying right around 300 MB. Something must have gotten hung previously to cause it consume so much.

[trail kayak]

its me or now the wavelink 3.0 is not an exe and its like microsoft installer

[high valve]

it's been like that since the first release of the beta

[atomic quartz]

Ah...the memory seems to runaway if you leave the UI open. When you close it, it cleans it all up...

[high valve]

@atomic quartz I have had my ui open almost 2 hours now with no used memory change

[viscid fern]

Are you on the latest version? 3.0.0 (1891)

[high valve]

I am yeah

[atomic quartz]

I believe you, but I was able to reproduce the two times I was monitoring it. I am on v. 3.0.0.1891 as well.

[viscid fern]

There were issues with the previous beta release, but 1891 should have fixed it.

[junior shell]

any idea why people in my game can hear themselves?

[solemn wyvern]

you have their voices included in the mix the game is using as the microphone.
(or you're playing the sound on speakers being recaptured by your mic)

[coarse ridge]

hey uhhh, i'm trying to use wave link 3.0 beta but my mic won't work at all and after it crashes this shows up

if i do that this happens

i've used wave link 2.0 before and unistalled 2.0 before installing 3.0

[solemn wyvern]

beta testing feedback is primarily in the reddit megathread. They don't check here very much

[coarse ridge]

ah i see, well thanks for the heads up!

[lone mirage]

[Issue] Wave Link 3.0 Beta — Audio Distortion/Latency in Mumble

Setup: • Software: Wave Link 3.0.0 (1891) Beta • Hardware: JBL Quantum 950 (Wireless/USB - 3rd Party) • Target App: Mumble

The Problem: When routing the JBL mic through Wave Link 3.0 into Mumble, the output is heavily distorted, stutters (robotic voice), and has significant latency. (Routing: JBL Mic -> Wave Link -> Mumble Input)

Troubleshooting / Notes: • Direct works: Selecting the JBL Mic directly in Mumble works perfectly (crystal clear). • Settings: Sample rates are matched (48kHz). • Buffer: I checked the settings (gear icon bottom left) but found no option to adjust Buffer Size manually in the Beta UI.

Has anyone else experienced this desync with wireless headsets in the V3 Beta?

[sterile valve]

getting this error when I try to use my IEM, any help?

[solemn wyvern]

Never seen that before. Did you try what it says?

[sterile valve]

what does update windows sound settings even mean

[solemn wyvern]

Honestly, I thought there might be some update, but as I think about it more, my best guess is it’s flagging a double use of a default.

So I would suggest setting your windows defaults to
Input: microphoneFX
Output: whichever wave link channel you want sound to appear on by default before routing.

And then I realize that this is so cropped that I can’t see the rest of wave link, so could be something else already being sent to that device.
(Above still applies, though)

Yeah sorry, just woke up.

This must be warning you about some double routing.

So set your defaults right, so you’re not routing around wave link by default, but then probably what we are looking for is a double routing.

[sterile valve]

notice headphones dont appear in link

[solemn wyvern]

I think you might be misunderstanding something, or maybe the question is unclear.
The analog headphone output and spidif look like they might be the same device. Not sure if that device will be capable of using two different audio feeds.

If you’re wanting to switch between headphones and speakers to listen to your monitor mix, switch it with the monitor mix selector, and leave the stream mix blank (using its virtual device)
Stream mix hardware device routing is intended for use on a capture card.

[sterile valve]

1. headphone = my IEM plugged into front of the PC, SPDIF = speakers connected to back of motherboard via SPDIF
2. the headphone doesnt appear in wave link at all now, previously it was giving the unsupported error
3. why would you think im messing with stream mix? the screenshot simply shows the drop down menu from monitor mix.

[solemn wyvern]

Ah I see; viewing on my phone and just didn’t zoom in enough; looked like stream mix box.

So this Realtek device is the built in audio on the motherboard, right?
I think that’s going on here is since it’s two different outputs on the same audio device, it cant send a different audio feed to each. There may be some confusion in the software related to jack detection.
If you have the Realtek software package for this installed, there might be some settings related to this in there. Or might be in the bios also.
I think what could work (and be most convenient) would be if it auto-detects when a headphone is connected to the front port, there is a setting for if the rear/digital ports stay active at the same time.

(Mine can do this, for what that’s worth. And these Realtek chipsets are basically standard across most motherboards)

But that also means from wave link’s perspective it might never need to be changed, or it might get confused as a device seems to change names… when you connect or disconnect the headphones.

I’m not exactly sure how it would work best. Could do with some experimenting

[lapis sail]

Anyone using Wave v3? I cant seem to find the "Microphone FX" and the standard mic output isnt using my vst's so I have made an output called "Wave Mic" how has others handled this ?

[solemn wyvern]

Are you asking about wavelink 3 (beta)?
Or are you asking about the wave 3 mic…. Using the current retail release branch of wave link, which is wave link 2?

[lapis sail]

Wave link beta my bad

[solemn wyvern]

Ah!
So wave link v3 is totally customizable and comes with no mix outputs by default.
Users creat up to 5 mix outputs, name them and configure them however you want.
So to make a microphoneFX output, simply create one that contains just your mic, and name it microphoneFX. (And optionally include sound effects if you used that option previously)

[tight slate]

Hello everyone! Maybe someone can help me. I use Wave Link for my Shure SM7B to setup my audio better. At the moment I have a problem that my mic "mutes" himself random after couple of minutes. Is there a solution for that? Thanks in advice and great holiday days

[solemn wyvern]

Mutes itself?
Which interface are you using?
If you have a stream deck, could you be accidentally using a mute command when doing other things?
It’s not something wave link does on its own.

Better run down the details. What hardware, what software version, etc.

[tight slate]

Sorry for my less details at the beginning.

I have the Mackie DLZ Creator. Because of my big room I have a lot of echo and with Wave Link I can reduce it much better. I have a Stream Deck too but I dont accidentally "mute myself".

Version details:

• Wave Link: 2.0.5. (3755)
• Im on Windows 10
• Stream Deck: 7.0.3 (22071)

This is my Wave Link setup and normally everytime I speak I see in Wave Link the soundbar. I'm still unmute because I can see that my Mackie DLZ Creator have my mic activated and people can hear me. It looks like to me that the "connection" between my mic or Mackie DLZ Creator interface to Wave Link cuts

[solemn wyvern]

I see. So when this happens do you stop seeing any activity on the meter at the top of the dlz channel in wave link?
It’s not a wave device so wave link can’t mute it. So it can’t be that.

If you see no activity on the channel then the problem is happening before it gets to wave link.

[tight slate]

It happends complete randomly. To my knowledge since when I play overwatch after 2-3 games (can be more or less sometimes) this problem happens. After that I must restart Wave Link and the activity / soundbar is visible can talk again with the wave link output.

Screenshot after the wave link restart now it fully works again

its just a little bit annoying sometimes I talk 10 minutes to myself hahaha

[solemn wyvern]

Ah I see, so seems like maybe a specific game is associated with it.

So device driver hangs could cause this behavior. A driver can hang, crash, and restart and the device could start working again, but the hiccup causes wave link to get all messed up and channels or sometimes the entire app can stop passing sound until it’s restarted, or the device is disconnected and reconnected, or the computer restarted.

And not just audio device drivers, but Display driver hangs can do it also since displays and GPUs have audio devices in them. The devices are in the routing table that wave link is using.

So I bet the device could be intermittently hanging or disconnecting momentarily without a proper hangup.
There are a lot of variables. But could be a usb issue. Something specific about the way this game loads the computer or attaches to device drivers…

[tight slate]

Okay I will check these things.. Thank you very very much for the ideas and help I really appreciate that!

[solemn wyvern]

I used to get this whenever a game I was playing crashed.
Black screen for a sec, then the driver restarts and the display comes back.
But I would have to unplug and reconnect my wave xlr, or restart the computer before I would get wave link back.

Actually, I’m assuming you have a stream deck + since you’re running wave link.

I wonder if it could even be associated with that. If that device dropped off for a brief moment what would happen to wave link. Not sure.

[tight slate]

Yes I'm happy that I dont get any blackscreens / PC lags, freezes or similar. Next time I play Overwatch I will have a better look when that happens

[arctic lodge]

I'm noticing that 3.0 has way more latency when listening to monitor playback

[atomic quartz]

Just in case anyone at Elgato is listening, I'm quite serious when I say, I'd pay money to have the option to add more than 8 channels in Wave Link 3.0.

[raven shuttle]

Idk if this is possible. I don't have a cam. I have an iphone. I have a Wave 3 Mic. Is it possible to use my iphone just as a cam while I use the Wave 3 Mic for Discord call?
I have looked on my iphone and I don't show an option to make my iphone just a cam and the mic just to be Wave 3. Any ideas how I can use these 2 together do I just need to purchase a camera?

[solemn wyvern]

in this scenario are you running discord on the phone?
the wave 3 should be able to connect to the phone and be used as it's audio input/output.

As long as it's a USB-c iphone, of course

oh actually, it says here it can work on lightening phones, too; with the usb c adapter. Since wave mics are only usb 2.0

[grim verge]

my Wavelink doesnt have anymore sound coming out from VoiceChat or Systeme... Everything set to these two give me no more sound

[solemn wyvern]

removing the channel from the mixer and re-adding it should resolve this.

[raven shuttle]

Running Discord on my PC

[solemn wyvern]

in that case, discord selects camera's independently from microphones. So I don't understand what the question is. assuming your mic is already selected as the voice chat input, the camera will be selected when you start the camera stream.

I guess the answer is yes.

discord doesn't associate the camera and microphone device selections.

[raven shuttle]

So I do need an individual cam. I am aware I can use my iphone for Discord calls but it defeats me just using my wave mic.

[solemn wyvern]

what do you mean individual cam?
I am confused what you're trying to learn. as I said, the wave3 mic will work on iphone. What are you doing now, and what do you want to be different?

[raven shuttle]

I just wanted to use Discord call with my PC. Use the iphone for just the cam.

But I can't discord PC and iphone opened at the same time

[solemn wyvern]

oh so this is a camera question. We're in the wave channel. I misunderstood this whole thing to be a question about mics

Ok, so.. you can on mac, easily.

elgato used to have an app called epocCam which used iphone camera as a webcam wirelessly or wired. I think it got rolled into camera hub, but might have been discontinued

yeah I checked, it's discontinued.

So I'm not aware of a way to use iphone camera as webcam on windows.

But facecam neo is just $50 right now, which is a complete steal. Wow that's less than half of what I paid.
Yeah.

holy cow, that's a wild deal on a camera that beats anything else right now at twice the price.

[raven shuttle]

Thanks @solemn wyvern

[grim verge]

Nope, also now i lose Game output every now and then

[solemn wyvern]

hmm. what version are you on? and is anything else happening when these channels drop out?
does restarting the computer bring them back?
Do you have any plugins running in wave link?

[grim verge]

Latest, nothing, it just cut. VoiceChat and System stopped to work, and Game just stop after 5-10 sec.

I use pluggins on my Mic3

I've been restarting the pc for like 1hr trying to solve this problem from now

[solemn wyvern]

latest as in 2.0.6?

[grim verge]

Yes

[solemn wyvern]

ok. what about disconnecting your mic and reconnecting and restarting wave link? does that bring the channels back?

[grim verge]

Come back for 5 sec

[solemn wyvern]

ok, I'm thinking this could be something to do with audio devices on your system not being stablly connected. Maybe a usb thing, maybe a driver thing.
But it's hard to say and I think you should contact #official-tech-support so they can get your logs looked over.

[hybrid creek]

anyone else been on this for the past 2 days

[pure wing]

do you have more than 1 wave device connected?

[hybrid creek]

no just a streamdeck+ with the wavexlr module plugged into it

i was using the wavelink 3.0 beta for like a week or so with no issue

[pure wing]

unplug it for a sec, and see if it comes up.

[hybrid creek]

wait

i restarted my pc like 20 mins ago

and its working again lmao

[pure wing]

yay!!!

[hybrid creek]

its been bugged for like 2 days tho

thank god tho

[pure wing]

was there a recent update?

[hybrid creek]

i dont think? i changed from beta mode to stable like 3-4 days ago tho

and it was fine

until it wasnt

[pure wing]

see if there is one, and update if so.

[hybrid creek]

sometimes i have to force close it if my headset turns off and i turn it back on to watch yt the audio wont work

then i have the issue again where its just loading

nope

[pure wing]

that is the recent one. that's good.

yeah, it's a beta, so that force close and restart can always help.

[hybrid creek]

ya im not stressin to to much i love this beta im happy asf with what they are doing

[pure wing]

same!!! I'm always trying out new ways to make things work, and I'm excited for a new way to control it, but I wish for some things to change. lol

as for the revamp, i love it!

[hybrid creek]

1000%

[pure wing]

[hybrid creek]

im just waiting for someone to make a vid on how to make stream alerts from streaming pc go back to gaming pc so we can hear it without aux cords or anything

i saw a vid forever ago about someone doing it but i cant find the vid anymore

im using wavecast for music on 2nd track for twitch vod

[pure wing]

hm... usually that's all cable, but wave cast can do this on a dual windows to windows setup. I haven't tried that with wave link yet, but I'm sure I could...

hehehe

thing is, streamer.bot isn't a thing on Mac OS without Wine, but essentially, i still could, via reverse.

it might be something I tinker with and figure out.

[hybrid creek]

ya im just happy to see more things happening with all this

[pure wing]

same!

Audio is 100% important for gaming, or streaming.

or editing.

[astral rose]

Any way to get Wave Link to actually keep the voice focus setting? I like to keep it on but it just keeps turning it off. I just started the pc, recorded a few lines until I noticed the sound was off and, sure enough, voice focus was turned off again. Seems to happen every time, and unfortunately I keep forgetting to check, too. Using a Wave3 with the latest Wave Link 3 beta.

[solemn wyvern]

It’s supposed to stay on.

Report beta testing feedback to the Reddit megathread.

[strong grotto]

I'm having issue with Spotify since I've updated to WaveLink 3.0. The sound is cutting and crackling, anyone else ?

[solemn wyvern]

Reddit is the primary place for beta testing and feedback.

[strong grotto]

I'll take a look

After reading on the sub, putting the app out of the music channel has fixed it.

[torn cloak]

Imagine paying 59.99 for something just for the devs to be bad at their job and it was a waste of money oof

Everything is supposed to stay on and working but audio sources delete themselves/stop working because wave3 is bad and made by dummies

[solemn wyvern]

You’re using a beta app, friend.
The thing you paid for isn’t the issue.

[torn cloak]

Elgato has millions and millions you think they couldn’t just fix the issues???

[solemn wyvern]

Put that plugin in anything that isn’t a beta and you’ll be fine

And I think you’re overestimating the size of elgeto

Anyway, have a nice day

[torn cloak]

It’s free they aren’t making money on wave 3 so they put no effort to making it actually usable just release a beta and hope user feedback fixes it

Just insane

[torn cloak]

I’m actually not because it’s so horribly made

I use the original working properly version

This one you had to buy an elgato product to even use it so they made the old software actually useable

Ps remember when voice focus was free 🤣😭

What a joke!

Just use voicemeeter or steel series gg guys, no reason in doing the hard work for elgato and fixing their problems for them

Or get a stream deck+ and use the old version

[dull verge]

Device: Wave 3
Software & Version: Wave Link
Windows/Mac Version: Windows 11
Question/Issue: Since a few days ago discord seems to not recieve any audio if i set the input to the Stream Mix. Monitor mix and other inputs like MicrophoneFX work fine.

[solemn wyvern]

Voice focus is free on the wave device channel of wave link, just as it always has been for wave device users.
The stand alone version is a totally different thing and the ai:caustics license is (justifiably) expensive.

Anyway, you clearly don’t have the attitude of somebody who is interested in testing beta software, so I wonder why you did test it?
Actually, I’m not sure you really understand what beta releases are…

My advice would be to uninstall the beta. Return to the retail release of wave link if you have a wave device, and simply wait until it’s in a stable state before trying it again.

(And it would be great if you stopped being rude in discord. We are volunteers who help users who need it, but I don’t owe anything to be people who talk to me the way you have been)

[solemn wyvern]

Confused why you would set the discord input audio to stream mix.
That will usually include a lot more than just your voice, which will cause discord’s voice isolation processing to mute a lot of what’s going on. Perhaps that’s the problem?

MicrophoneFX is the correct setting for discord voice input.

[dull verge]

Well i route my soundboard through it to end up in discord

i also noticed that its not just discord. The stream mix doesnt seem to work at all even in audacity. i can listen to it in the software and i hear it fine but other programs seem to not hear it

[solemn wyvern]

That’s a little weird so I wonder if some voice isolation is turned on in the system audio settings, or if maybe your mixer is set wrong.

However, wave link can include the sfx channel in the microphoneFX output. Just tick the box in that channel to do so.
(But note that discord will still attempt to remove sounds that aren’t voice from its voice channels by default, because they want their voice channels to be clean and clear)

[oak dagger]

am i stupid or can you not add a eq profile to a mic

(its probably me being stupid)

as u can see ive downloaded the equalizer plugin but its not available as an effect

[dull verge]

oh wow i never saw that box thanks i guess the problem is solved with that

[pure wing]

You can add vst’s to this, via your mix, and the mic.

[solemn wyvern]

Most plugins hosts will need to be triggered to scan for new plugins after they are installed. In old wave link there was a button in settings to rescan. If not in this beta try restarting the app or the computer. But the point is, yes it will show up in this list.

[solemn wyvern]

Is that true?....

[pure wing]

Add effect is what you’d select.

[solemn wyvern]

No, I don't hink that right. I just fired it up on mac and all my plugins show up in this list on the hardware device input

[pure wing]

Sorry, I saw this was a wave device, vs any mic. I’m also looking on my phone mobile squinting. Lol

I’ll pop in my wave xlr when I get home see if I run into the same

[solemn wyvern]

Yeah, I can add plugins to my UAD apollo interface right here. I don't have a wave device on this computer, but I don't see why it should be different

[pure wing]

Thanks! I’ll check it out soon! I need an hour before I can hop on.

[summer pasture]

Does anyone know if it's safe to DELTE this two virtual inputs created by Wave Link 2? I'm using Wave Link 3 and found out that this inputs are still here ( even though I uninstalled WL2).

EDIT: I would remove them using MIDI Audio Config app on macOS

[oak dagger]

yea i guessed as much based on my use of WL 2.0

[solemn wyvern]

If they are still there, you didn't fully uninstall

and/or you didn't restart after

either way, uninstall and restart again, and the start over with wl3. Because failing to fully remove wl2 is one of the things that causes the most bugs with wl3 right now.

[oak dagger]

done both an app restart and pc restart and none of them made the EQ plugin appear

[summer pasture]

Thanks for your answer. I already have WAVE 3 installed, should I unistalled it and reinstall WAVE 2 and then unistalled it again?

[solemn wyvern]

verify the dll file is in the vst plugins folder correctly. But otherwise I don't know the proceedure to get WL3 to scan for new plugins. but that's what you ve got to do!

[oak dagger]

the vst does exist within the folder tho

[solemn wyvern]

I would wipe it all out and start over

[summer pasture]

Is the way to "wipe it all out" un-installing Wave 3, then re-installing Wave 2, and then re-installing 3?

[solemn wyvern]

You want wl2 totally gone and restart. confirm that the virtual devices and the driver and everything is nolonger present on the system

then install wl3

[summer pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/mandalorian-this-is-the-way-gif-24826742

Ok, got that. But Is it okey to re-install v2? I heard that it causes problems when trying to go back. So I'm wondering if this is the way?

@solemn wyvern another question, what's the correct way to wipe it out in macOS?

[solemn wyvern]

Uh, so I've not tested the beta at all on windows. and I've not tried to remove it on mac. You might find better info on reddit since that's the home base for beta stuff.

But it's ok to reinstall wl2 once wl3 is removed. They just are totally different and the drivers can't work at the same time on the same system

[opal crypt]

Do yall's wavelink 3.0 freeze for a while when oppening the mixes tab for the first time?

[strong grotto]

Yeah, it's not a big deal

[summer pasture]

Thanks! I did try again, but in macOS seems you have to manually remove the drivers

[solemn wyvern]

I see. I don't know the folder where they would be. Probably in the hiddel library

[pure wing]

Popping it in now!

[pure wing]

you should be able to add them here. Did you scan your VST's?

[oak dagger]

yep

[pure wing]

and still nothing is coming up? or you were successful?

[oak dagger]

sorry yea nothing is coming up still

[pure wing]

you're on the lastest beta update?

is there a firmware update?

[oak dagger]

on the latest beta and i should be on the latest firmware afaik

[pure wing]

Maybe you need to add your VST2 Folder as well?

[oak dagger]

added a VST2 folder now and i just restarded WL and still no plugins available

[pure wing]

make sure to mention this in the MegaThread https://www.reddit.com/r/elgato/comments/1pk60fe/beta_megathread_wave_link_30_windows_update_3/

[oak dagger]

fixed it by adding the fallout voice fx

[pure wing]

awesome!!!

so it's working!

[oak dagger]

appears so now

[pure wing]

awesome!!!

[oak dagger]

odd fix but not complaining

[pure wing]

yeah that is odd, but the good thing is it's working. Still report your findings in the mega thread. they need the feedback.

[oak dagger]

shall do

[pure wing]

ty! 🙂

[oak dagger]

thanks for the help vic

[pure wing]

you're welcome!

[wooden thunder]

Hello In the new Wave Link 3.0, is it not possible to apply effects only to the Stream Mix while keeping my main mix clean?

[arctic moss]

Is the anyway i can roll back wave link 3.0 to last version, as the new update messed my wave link up.

[gritty jackal]

I think you'd have to remove it and go download the last installer from the previous beta thread at https://www.reddit.com/r/elgato/comments/1p7gin4/beta_megathread_wave_link_30_windows_update_2/

[arctic moss]

I tried that already but it just updates straight to latest version

[gritty jackal]

hm. I'd try it again, but disconnect from the Internet before you open it, then go into the options and turn off the udpates

[arctic moss]

lol. I also tried that but wouldn't let me progress without internet connection 🙁

[fading ice]

Need some help please,
Just moved and set up my pc and stream deck plus with xlr dock, everything is working fine (monitoring voice sounds good, Spotify sound good) until I press go live and then everything gets choppy and laggy. As soon as I stop streaming it goes back to perfect. Audio is choppy and laggy both for me and stream - please advise

[gritty jackal]

Check on the megathread for update three up above then (not the old one I lnked for downloads). The team managing the beta will be checking in on that thread for issues

[solemn wyvern]

So things mess up when the video encoder is running…
Is your stream using GPU or CPU encoding?
What plugins are in wave link?

(Nvidia plugin?)

[azure wing]

I'm trying the new beta wavelink 3.00(18xxx) whatever, the newest, and when I attempt add a channel to the mix, pressing the little + doesn't add:
Any ideas?
Also, when I check window's mixer, I don't see an option for the Elgato Spotify channel

Chrome also doesn't seem to be listed?

[arctic moss]

Yes its Bugged. I am having the exact same Issue.. I can't do nothing. I ended up uninstalling 3.0 and going back to 2.0+
Good job i made back ups for 2.0+ versions lol

[pure wing]

is it requiring you to open the app first?

[azure wing]

No, on the opening of the app first. That's supposedly one of the "cool" new parts of this new version, you're not supposed to have it assigned to anything at first. However, as you see, I did use the Spotify one, and it still didn't work.

[azure wing]

Arcsane, is that the Official-tech-support channel?

[gritty jackal]

No, someone had linked it a few messages to from where we were talking. It's a Reddit link

[azure wing]

Shoot, I was going to forward this message to that channel, but I guess I'm an old fart that can't use discord LOL

Oh, sorry. Thanks, Arcsane!

[gritty jackal]

The official support channel is just a link that goes to the ticket form and phone numbers

[pure wing]

yeah reddit is where to report the issues. not sure whyit's not loading, but reporting there will help.

[warm beacon]

I just wanted to know if im doing something wrong here. It should be completely silent with these settings right? (keep in mind I am relatively far from the mic and its still picking it up.)

[rain goblet]

The monitor (green bar) is PRE effects, so no matter your settings it’s gonna show up

[warm beacon]

Interesting thanks

[rain goblet]

So you need to do test recordings or listen to your mic to set it up

[warm beacon]

Do I still need to be on Wavelink Mic FX

Or did they do away with that one with wave link 3

[rain goblet]

In Wave Link 3, you make your own MicrophoneFX / Chatmix channel

Much greater options

[warm beacon]

okay 😄

[rain goblet]

Not only do I have my Stream Deck in my chatmix for voicechats, but also a different browser so I can use myinstants and other soundboard websites :3

[warm beacon]

I mean I have this enabled but it should be showing green still on this bar correct

[rain goblet]

Yep

[warm beacon]

kk

[rain goblet]

I’d prefer it to be post-fx also 😛

[warm beacon]

Maybe I am unaware on how to add my mic with the FX added to a new mix.

[rain goblet]

Lemme show ya

Sec

Alright, so like this

Your Mic, Stream Deck or any other channels you want in your mix

[warm beacon]

Right but I guess Im asking when I enable my mic in lets say I enabled it in Chat Mix does that mean if I added then selected Chat Mix the effects would enable in chat Mix

[rain goblet]

S

this green thing means that channel has FX on

[warm beacon]

Yeah so its just showing up in wave link. but the effects are still added to chatmix

I think I get it

[rain goblet]

:3

[warm beacon]

Cool Ill run some tests

[rain goblet]

You really should have the mic louder on your chatmix

[warm beacon]

Yeah I know I was testing things earlier lol

[rain goblet]

hehe

I did the mistake of having the Stream Deck / SFX at 50% because that's what I had in Wave Link 2 to make it balanced, but now in Wave Link 3 I need to have Stream Deck at atleast 90% or discord won't even pick it up

[warm beacon]

I would like for that wave link to just display the active effects on the bar but thats just me

Would probably mess something else up or something

[rain goblet]

Hopefully it happens eventually, it was one of the first things I gave feedback on

Now it's time for breakfast, have a lovely day

[warm beacon]

You too and thanks again

[bright arch]

Has anyone else noticed a huge hit on the latency when switching to the beta version?

[fading ice]

It’s only with the xlr dock, with the wave xlr everything is perfectly fine - using gpu encoding, no plugins fresh download only using currently for Spotify volume in my headphones

[solemn wyvern]

Hmm. Well the first description sounded exactly like accidentally using cpu encoding without realizing you were maxing the cpu all-core workload with cup based plugins, or using gpu encoding and having the nvidia plugin on.

But if you take out the wave xlr and put in the wave 3 it doesn’t do this?

That I can’t think of an explanation for.
No plugins in wave link?

[solemn wyvern]

I guess I would still pull open some monitoring software even just task manager to see if that shows anything.

[unborn coral]

Hey, my EQ plugin in wave link 3.0 make me crash everytime i try to add or edit the plugin. Any idea how to fix that ?

[solemn wyvern]

First thing I would do is delete the dll file and re-download it. Restart the whole computer.

If that doesn't fix it report your beta testing feedback in the reddit thread!

[empty hill]

Why "Start app at login" slider turning back to Off everytime i try to enable it?
WaveLink 3 Beta (1891)
App is not starting with Windows. Nothing helps.

[empty hill]

Yes but

Beta version .exe file is now located in folder with version name in it

So this method will break after any update

Seems like it's my only option

Win 11 now doesn't have this section in App Settings

But i checked this in Task Manager - Startup. Doesn't help.

Startup folder with shortcut too

It used to be here but now it's gone

[runic creek]

trying to mess around with voicemod and I understand the concept of it (mute your mic's channel and use a dif virutal audio one from Wave), but for some reason no matter what channel I pick VoiceMod doesn't seem to be lighting up anywhere 🤔

If I turn on the "hear myself" option it does work though

Just curious if anyone has any ideas

[hot portal]

hello i have the 50$ elgato voice focus addon and i enabled it in voice chat for incoming chat; it works fine but i also play clips on discord and its filtering that too lol

is there somethign im doin wrong

[solemn wyvern]

Working as intended. It filters anything on the channel and the effect suppresses sounds that aren’t a voice. (Or don’t sound like a voice, more accurately)

[solemn wyvern]

Probably you wouldn’t want to hear yourself outside of checking if it’s working; because the latency will make the whole thing quite distracting.
But likewise you can monitor the channel returning to wave link, if you wanted to. (Though again it would be latent)

[hot portal]

ok, is there a way i can use it to filter incoming Voicechat only? without filtering channel clips and yt stuff

[runic creek]

ah I think I figured it out.. I think nowadays you have to install the plugin from the store which then gives you a new audio channel you can add
for future questions that may pop in 🙂

although one final Q maybe you can better assist with @solemn wyvern , is there a way to toggle just this in stream deck?

none of these seem to work the way I am wanting, the best one just mutes the entire mic versus the input

(goal is a button to toggle elgato mic un/off with voicemod on/off - voicemod part works fine but elgatos own controls don't seem to work unless I am missing it somewhere)

[solemn wyvern]

Put voice focus on the channel discord voice is coming in on, and our YouTube videos (browser) on a different channel that doesn’t have voice focus on it.
This will filter incoming voice and any sound effects people play in discord. Because it’s all the same audio feed.
That’s why discord filters and suppresses non-voice sound by default also. To keep the channels free of noise.

[solemn wyvern]

I don’t mess with wave link and stream deck much, as I use them on different computers right now. But my guess would be the output command having a volume and mute adjustment options.

[pure wing]

there is a feature for the wave link plugin, not to be confused with the new wave link 3.0 plugin.

[hot portal]

people embed videos inside discord channels

and clips inside discord

im guessing theres no way to seperate voice chat and discord embedded videos

[solemn wyvern]

Those might be able to route to a different channel as discord has two audio outs, one for interface beeps…. If the videos come from that one…

So the idea will be click in wave link to route discord to your system channel (or browser or whatever) and then in discords out voice settings, set the output to voice chat.

Works for me in the latest wave link stable release, on win10

[humble canopy]

Hey everyone. I have what is probably a dumb question but bare with me. I've never owned an elgato audio product but decided to give the wave link 3 beta software a try in an attempt to simplify my audio routing (aka avoiding virtual cables and voicemeeter). I can't seem to get my mic into any channel in the wave link software. What am I doing wrong?

[hot portal]

I'll fiddle around with that thanks . didn't know disc had two audios

[empty leaf]

hello! as a new user to Wave Link 3.0 (I just switched fully from 2) I have some feedbacks about some feature missing and bugs

1. Some of my work need my mic to have no effects on it, and I really appreciated the separation between Mic In and MicrophoneFX that Link 2 had, but now it's missing on Link 3. It'd be great to have that again.
2. Some apps have distortions when routed through a certain channel, but not when routed through other channels. Take Spotify for example. If routed through Music channel or its own channel, there would be some distortion. but when routed through Aux 1, there will be none.
3. I'm not sure if it's something with the mic or the app, but when assigned to a VMware-powered Windows 11 virtual machine, the mic would have distorted crackling sounds.

Device: Elgato Wave:3
Software & Version: Elgato Link 3.0.0 (1891)
Windows Version: Windows 11 25H2 26200.7462

Edit: I really appreciate how much you guys are listening and improving the app, by the way. Thank you for your effort, fighting!

[solemn wyvern]

beta testing feedback is primarily on reddit; follow the link at the bottom left.

[solemn wyvern]

you probably don't need to add nvidia broadcast app itself, but add the virtual audio device it creates as an input.

[fading ice]

The wage xlr works fine, the xlr dock gives me the issues. Absolutely no plugins and only seems to happen (from my small test) while going out of the 3.5mm jack

[solemn wyvern]

Never heard of that, sorry! seems like a weird one that #official-tech-support should handle!

[short briar]

The Reddit post there is a link to it on wavelink app

[patent jackal]

Issue:
48V Phantom Power does not remember its toggle state. It has to be set again after each OS boot.

• Win11
• WL ver. 3.0.0 (1891)
• Firmware 1.31
• WaveXLR
• ShureSM7B

When this happens, for me It seem to be a solution, to delete the channel and set it up again. Distortion and crackling of the audio was gone after that. I hope this can be of some help to you. Merry Xmas Season 🙂

[solemn wyvern]

In the hardware settings of the wavexlr you should click save to hardware. It should remember this settings and work even when connected to a different computer without wave link, or even connected to a different device entirely.

If it's not working that way, then this might be a beta bug. Remember to report your beta testing feedback in reddit; follow the link in the lower left of wave link.

[patent jackal]

Unfortunately, there is no more option to save to Hardware in the WL vers. 3.x Beta. I have already posted the issue to the new WL Beta Thread on Reddit

[plucky glade]

Device: Elgato Wave 3
Software & Version: Wave Link 2.0.6
Windows/Mac Version: Win11
Question/Issue: Hey i got a elgato wave 3 for christmas and i for the life of me cant get it or wave link setup right for discord. my friends hear my music or themselves through discord and my fiance hears himself loud and clear from the other side of the room even tho i have idk how much noise suppression active. i need help. im overwhelmed. i watched nearly every elgato tutorial for wave link and how to set everything up but i still couldnt get it right

[solemn wyvern]

Two things,
First, in discord voice settings set the input to microphoneFX.

(You can also set this as the default input for windows in general. So everything that wants your mic will have it, with any effects you have on)

Secondly, noise reduction will not suppress other voices because it recognizes them as voices and not noise. This is normal if you’re in the same room as another speaker.
Nothing else you can do about that besides being very close to your mic, and arranging it so its back side is pointed at the sound source you want to reject. (Set your gain accordingly)

[plucky glade]

Voice Focus too?

[solemn wyvern]

Voice focus and other modern suppressors especially. They are trained to isolate and keep voice, rejecting everything else.
So if a voice is in the room it will be isolated and enhanced along with your own.

They’re talking about the discord input in your wave link mixer. Not voice channels in discord servers. The problem is in the beta of wave link you are testing.

[normal oxide]

I have a wave xlr and am using wave link 3.0 currently having an issue where I can hear my mic through my earphones but no other audio, any ideas? tried restarting the app same issue

Mic is heard through the pc audio mix which is set at 50%

[errant dagger]

Having an issue with Wave Link.. so i set it all up and added the audio sources like Browser, music, game etc and everything worked fine. BUT when i CLOSE Wave Link Yes even from the arrow thing in the bottom left of PC and i set my System > Sound back to my headphones, its still routing audio with Wave Link? I try to watch a YT video and no audio but i can see in my sound settings that the YT video is playing thru the "Browser" source that Wave Link added.
Basically this would mean that if i only selectively want to use Wave Link, i would need to manually disable all the Added Outputs each time i dont want to use Wave Link and then go and manually enable them when i do.
Is this just how it works or something im missing?
Seems another Alternative is to remove the apps from the audio sources on Wave Link...i guess when you set an app there is forces that app to Only be able to play thru that source?

^^

[solemn wyvern]

It’s meant to be on all the time. Audio mixer mixes your audio.

[errant dagger]

hmm i was planning on probably not using it ALL the time just in case the software crashes or has issues and then im suddenly with no audio

[solemn wyvern]

Been on non stop for me for several years.

If you disconnect your device it might (hopefully) revert to the sound devices left.

[errant dagger]

ill daily drive it for a while to see if itll be an issue or not. Thanks for the help ❤️

[pure wing]

Make sure self monitoring is off.

[solemn wyvern]

There are log files that #official-tech-support can look at.
But without more info… it seemed like you were routing wrong. But if you’re sure than go ahead and get a ticket going.

[boreal scroll]

Wave Link System audio always goes to max when opening any software that has audio too it. Any known fixes?

[wicked gale]

Does anybody know how I can share screen without my friends hearing my microphone super loud and unfiltered through the screen share audio? I've got my mixes set up correctly I think and have tried all sorts of variations but nothing fixes it. I think it's maybe something to do with the way Wave Link plays back the personal mix (if you mute Wave Link 3.0 in the Windows sound mixer you can no longer hear anything)

[pure wing]

You can mute your mic, and audio from your screen will come through, or the app depending what you’re sharing.

[solemn wyvern]

I think that was a rare bug with the 2.0.6 version so you could roll back to 2.0.4

[mossy ivy]

Hi quick question, Im trying to download the noise removal from the marketplace and it says that it was downloaded and everything but once I go to add audio effects, nothing shows at all. I've already tried restarting the app, checking for plug-ins in the settings and running as admin for the download. Nothing seems to fix it

[solemn wyvern]

That looks like the beta, so I don’t know if there is a button to scan plugins, or just a bug.
Keep restarting the computer and stuff I guess. Or ask on Reddit, where the beta feedback is concentrated. (Report your testing experience)

[mossy ivy]

It seemed to have figured itself out and now it appears

Im not sure why it wasnt before

[solemn wyvern]

Great!

[solemn wyvern]

This is a user help channel; you’re talking to volunteer users who are here to help people. Not Elgato support, which I provided a link to.

But if you don’t describe your issue in detail, we can’t even try to help. All I have is my years of experience fielding questions in here so my best guess was/is a routing mistake, from what I heard so far. And you didn’t elaborate.

[pure wing]

What version of wave link are you using?

Nvmd scrolled to the original post via Wave link 3.0

Can you show a quick video of the issue please? Also keep in mind this is a beta, not an official release there are bugs. You can report them to the reddit mega thread depending on what os you’re using.

https://www.reddit.com/r/elgato/comments/1pp6eop/beta_megathread_wave_link_30_macos_update_3/

https://www.reddit.com/r/elgato/comments/1pk60fe/beta_megathread_wave_link_30_windows_update_3/

[bright iris]

The new Wave Link 3 update is pretty bugged out. When I go to add an app it no longer automatically switches the output device for that app in the Windows settings. I have to manually go in and change it. Also, some applications that are clearly running and playing sound are showing up in WL3 as "Unavailable". Lastly, for whatever reason, apps will just choose a channel at random to play sound through even if the app is already selected within a specific channel. Apps don't play through the System channel by default and yes I have System set to the default output inside of the Windows settings.

[short briar]

it is beta but could share what you found here and hopefully it gets better when it gets upgraded https://www.reddit.com/r/elgato/comments/1pk60fe/beta_megathread_wave_link_30_windows_update_3/

[elfin peak]

Does anyone know if they are working on Wave 4?

[viscid fern]

Elgato doesn't publically comment on any potential future products.

[elfin peak]

Oh okay

[cedar trout]

Hey guys!
Came here with a question, is there a way in Elgato Wave 3 to set up the microphone as single channel aka mono?

[runic wharf]

I was getting crackling audio on the newest version of the beta. I move apps off 'system' channel to another channel and the crackling has completely gone away. Anyone else seeing static/crackling on the beta?

[pure wing]

it can be buggy like this for some users. please report it in the megathread mac os https://www.reddit.com/r/elgato/comments/1pp6eop/beta_megathread_wave_link_30_macos_update_3/ windows os https://www.reddit.com/r/elgato/comments/1pk60fe/beta_megathread_wave_link_30_windows_update_3/

[wicked gale]

But then they can't hear me 🙁 Well they can but it's through my mic unfiltered which is loud for some reason, like it's not got any filters applied they can hear my PC and me breathing and everything 😂 and if I hardware mute my mic then sadly I'm still left with the problem they can't hear me

[swift hemlock]

I just installed Wave Link for the 2nd time and it’s still not opening, how do I fix this?

[pure wing]

this is how I have mine setup. that way they hear what i want them to hear.

[warm talon]

is it called "balance" if i want to set a fixed level for when my audio is set through speakers and another fixed level when i switch to headphone? So i dont need to constantly readjust the volume knobs from switching inbetween everytime

[magic lava]

does the order of the effects matter in the effects chain?

[solemn wyvern]

The mic is single channel, but wave link works in stereo so it will appear as dual mono there but there is no difference unless you’re applying a stereo effect in wave link which creates a difference. .
If some app is seeing it as stereo, be assured there is no difference in taking one side of it, or using the whole stereo channel.

Does that help? Or was there a more specific question?

[solemn wyvern]

Yes; signal flows top to bottom. Each effect receives and acts on the result of the previous effect in the chain.

[solemn wyvern]

I think I need more context; are you just asking how to refer to the process of balancing an audio channel with other sounds?

[warm talon]

maybe im misusing the term "balance". So ignore it

is there a way to set a fixed level for when my audio is set through speakers and another fixed level when i switch to headphone?
So i dont need to constantly readjust the volume knobs from switching in-between everytime?

[solemn wyvern]

Ok I understand now.

So you’re switching the monitor mix device in wave link, right?

Using stream deck, make a multi-action that changed the device and the mix output volume with the same key.
It can be a toggle, so it will switch to the other mode and activate again to reverse the settings.

[warm talon]

it can be tied to the Wave Link: Device button also?

[solemn wyvern]

Yeah that’s one of the actions you would put in the multi-action.
(I don’t use a stream deck with wave link currently so I’m not super expert in exactly what the actions are called for changing devices and level)

So create your key as a multi-action toggle
Then populate the list of actions for the first side, change wave link device, and then change device volume.
Then go to the other side of the toggle and populate that action list with the actions you want to do from the other direction.

[solemn wyvern]

in other words. your key is a multi-action toggle, then you'll put wave link plugin actions in that multi-action

[night zenith]

Device: WaveXLR
Software & Version: WaveLink 2.0.6 (3780)
Windows/Mac Version: W11 Version 10.0.26100 Build 26100
Question/Issue: That will be a weird one but in the Mic/PC Mix, I'm trying to get 100% Mic and 100% PC simulteniously without increasing my mic gain. I just want to hear myself more without increasing my gain which will affect whoever I'm talking to and I don't want to compensate my max volume of headphones. Is there any way I can achieve this? My headphone output is already maxed.

[stray stump]

**Device: **StreamDeck+
**Software & Version: ** WaveLink 3.0.0
Windos/Mac version: Windows 11, version 25H2

**Question/issue: **Does anyone know why the Wave Link (3.0.0 version) doesn’t detect my Stream Deck+ as a device?
I’ve tried reconnecting it and restarting the software, but it still doesn’t show up.
Any ideas or fixes would be appreciated. Thanks!

[warm talon]

awesome thank you. Will give this a shot.

[cedar trout]

Not quite.
I got elgato voice focus set up in elgato wave link.
Then the mix is sent to obs.
Obs spews out left and right channels separately because the voice focus sees stereo input and gives stereo output.
Somehow this causes a discrepancy between left and right since on some words, i can clearly see in obs different max peak values.

I noticed when left n right is at different peaks it causes artifacts (crackly sound)

I re-did the entire filters chain in obs, and now its perfectly synced with no artifacts.

[solemn wyvern]

you can have obs just one of the channels.

[solemn wyvern]

you can't push both to 100% because it's a balance control, not like 2 channels in a mixer pushing into a mix bus

the things you can adjust is first set you mic gain apropriately for your distance and then leave it alone. Then use the monitoring balance control and the monitor mix master fader (horizontal at bottom of wave link) along with your headphone volume control to create the balance and overall level you want. You have full control over the overall level of your monitor mix and the balance between that and your direct monitoring. So those are what you use to create the right balance, then compensate for headphone volume with that control.

[cedar trout]

hmm, i think its a bug somewhere else, here's what i mean:
As u can see L and R true peaks are different causing the artefacting.
Seems to happen even outside of Wave link sadly 🙁
Here are my OBS settings too:
The initial gain from OBS was needed because for whatever reason my microphone (Fifine AM8), even with Fifine Sc3(Mixer) cannot peak by itself at -5 db and average out at -10db. Without the gain the peak is at -14 and average is at -20-ish.

Also, elgato voice focus is maxed out so it gets rid of the computer fan.

And the computer fan isn't even that loud, without the said gain, the fan sits between -60 and -55 db. With the gain sits at -40, -45 db.

Also, if i add the voice focus BEFORE the gain, in hopes of decreasing voice focus agressivity, it still picks up the computer fan noise even at 80% voice focus agresivity.

Do I have something out of order? Or its just the Voice focus artefacting my channels?

If you're wondering, yes im desperate 😄 Switched already 3 types of microphones and this one's seem to be the best atm. I had:

• HyperX Quadcast S (Condenser) -> Was crisp on voice, however the mic placement was crucial, if i was 1 cm off the goldilocks spot, i would get distorted boomy audio like i was in a church! If i was in the goldilocks spot i had the voice i would like to hear (eg: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_aqZgQRNfM)
• Razer Sieren S2 Pro (Dynamic) -> Had lower lower general gain (avg: -22db, peak -16) and Introduced the fan noise, a problem where I could not make it go away.
• Fifine AM8 (Dynamic + USB) -> Same fan noise, artefacting when using elgato voice focus (likely caused by maxed out knob gain).
• Fifine AM8 (Dyanmic + XLR + Fifine Sc3 (max fader gain) + Elgato Voice Focus) -> Fan noise gone ONLY at MAX voice focus agresivity, and very little artefacting (eg in a 45 minute video, it added 6 loud cracks at the beginning of words that i had to cut out in davinci resolve)

Any advince would be great if you have any!

Apologies for deviating from Wavelink questions, but audio's been bugging me since i started my YT channel a year ago, and finally with Elgato Voice Focus I managed to get it into an almost perfect place!

[solemn wyvern]

Hmm that does seem strange. Wonder if it’s just in the standalone version (vst version)

Worth talking to support about. So they can try to improve.
Would want to make sure it’s still there with no other effects, to prove it’s not an interaction.

I don’t have the vst version so I can’t help you test this.

It looks like you’re not using wave link; I would be putting my mic processing in wave link, so that’s another difference.
I assumed that at the start of this

[rigid turret]

Hello guys! I have unplugged, plugged my stream deck + and elgato Neo microphone, and restarted PC several times and Wave Link still for some reason wont pick up/open. Any help?

[solemn wyvern]

Usually trying different usb ports is the solution to this.
Since it’s stuck, if that doesn’t work right away I would disconnect them both and reboot and try one at a time.

[magic lava]

Is there info on what effects should be in what order?

[atomic sierra]

question for anyone who might be able to help. Playing farm sim with friends, we talk in a discord channel. when i select application audio foreground, i can hear only farm sim, when i select all audio i hear myself talking, plus the game, hearing myself talk really messes me up. Am i doing something wrong?

[solemn wyvern]

It’s sort of a matter of preference. In general, noise suppression would be first, after that I like eq and then compression. Some prefer compression before eq; and that’s if you want the compression to react to your signal after eq corrects it…or before.
Eq first is usually more effective if you have a lot of low end or high end buildup you are removing.

[rigid turret]

When i uninstall the application, it tells me to unplug the elgato device, and when i unplug it, the audio goes back to my headphones. It is picking it up, the application just wont pick it up! i will try the usb ports now

i have been using wave link for months, now it is just cranky today

[tranquil oxide]

Why is my microphone listed as an output device rather than a microphone?

[solemn wyvern]

It’s not. USB mics commonly have headphone outputs built into them as well, so they will appear to the system as a 1 in / 2 out device.

[tranquil oxide]

but that is not a usb mic

[solemn wyvern]

There are a few microphones in this list, so you’ll have to be more specific about which one you mean.
I assumed the rode, since it was the one you added to wave link.

[tranquil oxide]

yes the rode

[solemn wyvern]

Oh I think I see now,, you have it in a wave xlr.
I assume then you renamed the input to rode nt1a

Trying to figure it out from the screen shots what you’re talking about

[tranquil oxide]

Yes, the Rode is connected to the Wave XLR, and I have renamed the Wave XLR. But I still don't understand why it is recognized as an output and not as a microphone. Because when I rename things in the software, they should also be renamed in Windows, which is what is done here. But my microphone is displayed as an output (the one I renamed) and my microphone as an input is left with its default name.

🥀

So why is my input called "mic in" and not "rode nt1a"?

that is the question

[solemn wyvern]

I think you renamed the wrong device.
Did you do that within wave link?
Wave xlr, likewise, has an input and output device. Mic in is what the wave device input is called. The output will (be default) be wave xlr (headphone) or something like that.
Not at the computer right now.

[tranquil oxide]

I can see that it says “mic in” in there. However, I don't see an option to rename the input.

[solemn wyvern]

I’ve never tried to rename any of this stuff. Haven’t actually done any beta testing on windows.
I would have thought that the channel names might only impact the visual inside wave link.

Could be beta funny business

[tranquil oxide]

I still have one problem. In Discord, when I select mic in and studio quality (which Discord doesn't process), at least that's how I understand it, my AI voice focus is not applied. Unfiltered mic sound comes through.

[rancid pollen]

Anyone have an issue with the wave 3 beta and the stream deck, specifically when it comes to controlling the "Game" channel? all other channels work for me, but the game one is bugged out on the stream deck. tried adding and removing multiple times. You can see the other channels next to it

also just to note it's only a visual issue, the controls work as expected

[solemn wyvern]

Mic in is your raw mic with no effects.
Route your mic to the output you called “chat mix” and set that as your system default input. (And discord voice input)

[cloud apex]

Hey all, tryuing to get my game sound to come out of my "Game" channel, but currently only comes out of "System" even though i've added the application to the Game channel. Is there a way to force sound through a specific channel?

As shown here, my "Game" channel shows World of Warcraft, and my "System" is empty (though it's set as default in windows).

[solemn wyvern]

Some games don’t play by the rules and follow windows audio routing.
If the offending game doesn’t have internal settings to select and output device within the game, the only other way around is to set the game channel as you system default.

[cloud apex]

ah okay, thanks! i'll try in game settings then.

that worked beatuifully by the way. hero!

[solemn wyvern]

Excellent!

[quick vault]

Also, what I've learned on that too is sometimes you either have to restart the game or restart the computer after you set it for it to apply because some games are just finicky with the audio system

[bright iris]

I think a Windows update messed with the sound again. I can no longer select apps that are making sound from the + button in Wave Link 2. Is this a known issue?

Like, for example. I play a YouTube video in Chrome and it plays through the System channel. When I go to the Add App button under the Browser channel, nothing appears there. It is as if nothing is playing sound to be added to the Browser channel.

But obviously Chrome is playing sound because the meter under the System channel is moving.

The only way I can get audio to play through the correct channel is by going through the Windows Sound Mixer like we used to have to do a long time ago.

[sweet ocean]

How good is wavecast

I need honest answers

[kind anchor]

Do you guys know if the Juzear Defiant iems will work with the Wave XLR? I've heard it has low impendence mode for iems. If not what iems do you guys recommend?

[cloud apex]

I'm not an audiophile by any means, but I have some Truthear Hexa IEMs that I really enjoy. ~$90. Great for gaming and Music sounds solid.

[kind anchor]

Are you using them through the wave xlr? I heard from people that the wave xlr is very noisy for iems, as I was also considering getting either the pure or hexa.

[cloud apex]

I dont have the wave xlr, no. I do plan to get one after Christmas though. My current interface is loud though.

[elfin peak]

Do people use Wave products for making music? I might get back into it

[kind anchor]

Does it do a ssss sound or something with the iems?

[kind anchor]

I’m an amateur when it comes to music, I only bought the wave xlr and wave dx mic for streaming but then I wanted to transition into music as I wanted to make content related to it such as covers

I would suggest to not get an elgato xlr for music as they don’t have asio

[cloud apex]

I have an sm7b and my interface doesn't handle it well. Its not really an ssss sound. Just the normal high gain static.

[elfin peak]

Why do you need asio?

[cloud apex]

But if I have any sound playing at all I cant even notice the noiss

[kind anchor]

It’s for in real time monitoring with programs such as FL Studio, mainly use for recording vocals. I might be wrong as I’m not a professional

[elfin peak]

I know you can record without asio

[kind anchor]

It will have latency if you don’t have asio, but ig it’s doable. But i honestly prefer hearing my own voice whenever I have to record a song cover

[kind anchor]

Is it loud loud?

I just realized that I also have those noise with my apple earbuds but I didn’t really care

How loud were they?

[cloud apex]

Nah its not super loud. Its really just an annoyance if there's no other sound playing.

[spiral wren]

wave cast not doing any casting can some help me out?

[mystic kindle]

Hi team, is Wave Link 3 Beta supported for Win 11 LTSC? I tried all kinds of things to get my Stream Deck+ recognized by Wave Link 3 Beta but to no avail. Happy to provide more info (I can send an AI-generated summary of everything I did to troubleshoot), let me know. EDIT: I ended up installing Wave Link 2 which seems to work fine.

[stray stump]

**Device: **StreamDeck+
**Software & Version: ** WaveLink 3.0.0
Windos/Mac version: Windows 11, version 25H2

**Question/issue: **Does anyone know why the Wave Link (3.0.0 version) doesn’t detect my Stream Deck+ as a device?
I’ve tried reconnecting it and restarting the software, but it still doesn’t show up.
Any ideas or fixes would be appreciated. Thanks!

[stray stump]

same problem

[tranquil oxide]

In what way? I just reinstalled Windows and downloaded the Wave Link 3 software for the first time. I just downloaded the Stream Deck app and can control my Wave Link channels with it. Do you also have the new plugin from v3?

Or do you mean that you can't see the Stream Deck in the Wave Link app?

[stray stump]

The WaveLink (3.0.0) software doesn’t detect my Stream Deck+, and because of that I can’t use the software.

[gritty jackal]

Wave Link 3.0 doesn't NEED hardware activation like 2.x

If you mean you can't control it form the Deck make sure you got the beta version of the plugin (it's on the link for Wave Link at https://www.elgato.com/s/beta )

[tranquil oxide]

⬆️

[tranquil oxide]

Silly question, but did you download the Wave Link 3 software or accidentally download v2? As already mentioned v3 does not require hardware activation.

[stray stump]

Yeah, I mean the software works, but my Stream Deck+ doesn’t show up there in the software, even though I have the plugin and the software installed.

[tranquil oxide]

I'm new to v3, but what's the point of displaying the stream deck there?

I don't think that exists at all

wave xlr okay. that's how you control your microphone. but what do you want to control with wave link in stream deck?

[tranquil oxide]

Yes, only the XLR is displayed because you have to control things via it. But you can't control a Stream Deck for audio. Or do you have a Wave XLR add-on for your Stream Deck?

the hardware thing

this thing

or normal stream deck?

[stray stump]

Ah okay. Yeah, in version 2 it recognized the Stream Deck+ (without the external XLR device). But because it’s free, it doesn’t need to do that anymore.

[gritty jackal]

Correct, it doesn't need hardware activation in 3.x

2.x and 1.x required a Stream Deck+, Wave XLR, or one of the USB Wave mics (or a Corsair Voyager laptop)

[stray stump]

Yeah, I was a bit confused haha, but thanks!

[stray stump]

Yeah, that’s what I was used to.

[gritty jackal]

No worries, there's a bit of a learning curve going to a full audio matrix too, instead of the sliders and dual outputs. Good luck with it!

[tranquil oxide]

bro is like

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-gif-8042472079740856380

😂

[gritty jackal]

Mostly likely hit issues with it before - maybe something likt the 1.10.0 issue where the Stream Deck+ activation didn't work (until 1.10.1)

The paranoia after something breaks like that before settles in deep

It's a somewhat common point of confusion anyway

[tranquil oxide]

Out of context, but I only got 3.0 beta because the new look of the controls. extremely cool. I really wanted to have them

That's definitely a big level up from before

[gritty jackal]

Seems to be a point of contention really - some folks keep asking for the old ones back. 🙂

But yeah, a lot of people like the new ones

[stray stump]

yeah haha

[tranquil oxide]

It's better to have an option. That's true.

[stray stump]

hahah nice

[tranquil oxide]

It makes sense for private (not a streamer or similar) to have a system as a channel? I don't see the point if I can control all channels (game, VC, music) and they all come out of my headphones anyway. Why have a system then? Or am I missing something?

[gritty jackal]

They took it away as a default for setting it up that way. It does for some people depending on what they're trying to do, if they just want a catch all to route all the audio

The main reason is to set it as a default audio device so anything you haven't setup yet will go there by default.

[tranquil oxide]

Hmm, okay, I personally have no use for it

[solemn wyvern]

If your default audio device is your headphones instead of a wave link channel, then you’re likely to play audio past wave link by accident and create a situation where that gets confusing.
That’s why it’s preferable to have all audio go through wave link by default, instead of around wave link direct to the headphones.

[tranquil oxide]

I have the Arctis Wireless Pro. The headphones have a base that they connect to. The base is connected to the Wave XLR via an AUX cable.

It then runs via wave link or not

[solemn wyvern]

Wave xlr is not wave link.
Any app, or the system, can route to the wave xlr headphone port which is bypassing the wave link mixer. Audio sent there won’t appear on any channel, have no fader that controls its volume, and won’t be included in any mix.

You’ll hear it. So if that’s fine with you, go ahead.
But plenty of confusion gets brought here by users who don’t realize they are toting some of their audio around wave link without realizing it.

[tranquil oxide]

No, that's cool. I'm grateful that you're helping me right now. I'm always open to new things. If you say it's clearer that way, then I'll try it now. I'm setting everything up again anyway. The Wave Link software is just a bit overwhelming, which is why I've always left it alone. (Never change a running system.) Especially here, because if I change something, half of it might not work.

[ionic breach]

I'm having an issue where the voice focus turns itself off. is there anyone else who experiences this on WL3.0?

[tranquil oxide]

Is there a way to manually route the Discord call/notification sound? I can do this in the settings, but after restarting, it goes back to a channel. Every time, it blows my ears off.

[tranquil oxide]

It only happened once, but I was constantly changing things. Everything is going well for me.

[solemn wyvern]

If you’re using the beta, remember to report your testing feedback in Reddit. Link in the lower left of wave link

[solemn wyvern]

The way I do it is to click in wave link to assign the discord app to the wave link system channel.
Then in discord’s own setting set the voice chat device to wave like voice chat.

[wicked gale]

does yours work for screen share? so if you mute your mic in discord server and then screenshare a whole screen, they'll just hear your PC audio andnot yourmicrophone at all? I think I have a similar setup, but if yours works for that I might be tempted to just start over and try to do something similar

[tranquil oxide]

like this and then manually in discord settings to voice chat right?

[solemn wyvern]

Yup.

With the note that I’ve been using it this way in wave link 2 on windows 10 for years and it’s totally stable.
And no idea if wl3, win11, or just beta stuff will make this not work as well

[tranquil oxide]

well. the discord plugin need a update for the new look 🚬

btw whats the diffrence between volume and level

i know its the first and second slider

but dunno whats the diffrence

volume is the volume of the app okay. but level

[solemn wyvern]

Volume fader is a control.
Level meter is a visual indicator

[tranquil oxide]

[pure wing]

Yes, it’s definitely works for me, unless I’m sharing the application then I just mute my microphone and let them see the application I’m sharing. Example watching a video.

[wicked gale]

Okay I will give it a go, thanks for your help 🙂

[tranquil oxide]

Is Voice Focus enough (condenser mic)? Want to adjust it to my voice, but will Voice Focus mess up the quality?

[pure wing]

You’re welcome

[pure wing]

I use voice focus, and I have not had any issues at all.

[solemn wyvern]

Voice focus is currently the best voice isolation processor fast enough to run in real-time.
It does reverb reduction as well as noise and has some subtle eq and dynamics- like effects at the same time.

I work in audio production on dialog and the tools I have that are situationally superior cost at least 300$ and are much too processor intensive and have over 4000 samples of latency minimum.

same rules apply to this as to any machine learning noise suppression: the harder you make them work, the more damage they will do to the voice.
That said, voice focus errs on the side of leaving a natural sound and will tend to let some noise through instead of major damage to your sound. (Kind of the opposite of nvidia broadcast)

[tranquil oxide]

[tranquil oxide]

Thanks for the detailed answer. The thing is, my mic picks up the whole apartment. Someone is typing on the keyboard across the room and the mic picks it up without any problems. That's why this AI focus is very attractive to me. Nvidia Broadcast was disastrous. It ruined my quality so much (even though I have an NVIDIA card) that it was absolutely not worth it. If you could adjust the mic to the voice a little bit, it would be a gold mine. But if you say it already has something in it by nature, that's fine.

[solemn wyvern]

Broadcast is really rough.
But you could always reduce the strength.
Same for voice focus though its maximum will probably do less damage than nvidia’s maximum… it might also suppress less noise.

It’s superior to broadcast in sound and also that it runs on the cpu. The GPU processing is problematic unless you’re really light on your GPU, and it has a latency penalty because of the driver handoffs.

But ultimately you’ll get the best results from making your environment quieter and being closer to your mic so you can reduce the gain.
Consider a dynamic mic, which are made to be used basically right against your lips, so it can reject more sound from its pickup pattern and distance.
Mics hear what’s in the room with them.
And sensitive condensers were designed to be used in carefully constructed studio rooms. That’s why Sinatra stood a couple feet away from it when he sang.

Processing technology has gotten very powerful, but if you really care about the quality of your mic sound, I would put the effort into arranging your setup so you’re not in a noisy room, and so on. Those will make the biggest difference.

[tranquil oxide]

I would also consider purchasing a dynamic microphone if it were within my budget. However, it is not that important since I mainly use it for Discord and occasional meetings. I have had the Rode for five years now, and it still functions perfectly. Therefore, replacing it is not a priority. I will experiment with the strength of the AI Focus and see what works best for me

https://tenor.com/view/praying-cat-please-thank-you-thanks-gif-16119732

[covert fern]

Can anyone help me? Beta version keep auto installing after i uninstalled it, every time my PC rebbot the beta come again....

[solemn wyvern]

After uninstalling before rebooting , check your boot options to make sure it’s gone from there, and check in $user/appdata/…/Elgato for a wave link folder and delete that.

First I’ve heard of this issue but that’s what I would try.

Then go to the Reddit which is more of a home base for beta info.

[tranquil oxide]

I dont get it. I get no audio in my clips only mic audio I have two separate audio tracks

[gritty jackal]

Check the app settings. Some of them have internal audio settings that override the Windows mixer

[tranquil oxide]

Yeah but thats just for the mic input. Nvidia automatically grabs system audio for the second track. You can only set that if you select a different input source. Since Im tryna get voice chat and the game on one track I gotta run a mix. It worked before (v2 link). Honestly no clue why its dont working now.

I figured it out. You have to give the mix an output. In my case, Elgato headphones. And then set these Elgato headphones as the output rather than the input in the NVIDIA container. Easy.

Now I have a separate track with my mic, and on the second track I can choose what I want and mix it together.

[solemn wyvern]

Yeah exactly, that’s kind of a quirk of how the nvidia app works; basically assuming users don’t have a mixer. So they take whatever the system audio output is.
You can work around that better with wl3, I think…

[leaden flume]

hey, anyone using WaveLink 3? On Wave Link2, there was a button on the stream deck plugin to switch between speakers and headphone, I can't seem to find out a way to do that now, am I being dumb? -Thanks

[tranquil oxide]

this one?

[tranquil oxide]

wave link is really perfect for this

[leaden flume]

yeah.. it doesn't seem to switch

[solemn wyvern]

I think that’s the current best workaround, but the better solution would be to switch the primary monitor device, rather than create two different monitor mixes.

Which I’ve heard the beta plugin doesn’t have an action for yet.

[tranquil oxide]

i see. its just switch ur main output between the mixes

[leaden flume]

uhm.. but that leaves the speaks on and turns the headset on... I just want to switch between speakers/headphones like we used to be able to .... I don't want to have to setup a multi action, seems like we have lost functionality

[solemn wyvern]

Right… as I say… current best workaround. But not the real solution. Which doesn’t seem to be in the plugin yet.

You’ll have to change the primary monitor device with the mouse for now

[tranquil oxide]

Yes, I see that this function is no longer available. I actually used it too.

[leaden flume]

ok cool.. I thought I was missing something, thanks !!

[leaden flume]

frustrating 🙂

[pure wing]

You could create a toggle for headphones, and another toggle for your speakers, to your mix. “Toggle Mix Output” They just wont be setup the way wave link 2.0 is.

It will toggle to the mix you choose vs the top section in your screen shot

[leaden flume]

I could... but this should be a step forward not backward, imho

[pure wing]

I totally understand. That’s the workaround for now, unless Elgato makes something new. You can always relay to them via the Beta Megathread on Reddit for feedback, and issues.

Anyway, I hope that helps for now

[leaden flume]

Will do vic... It does and thank you all for the quick replies!

[pure wing]

You’re welcome!

[ocean lichen]

is phantom power turning off a common issue with wave link 3? im using it with the xlr dock and cloud lifter and sm7b if that helps

[pure wing]

it shouldn't but if it is doing that please report it to the reddit megathread.

[pure wing]

phantom power is only needed if it's a condenser mic, also to add a cloud lifter might not be needed for this mic. if the mic is dynamic, then leave the phantom power off. also try without the cloud lifter. 🙂

[solemn wyvern]

To add: Another user reported that last week.
From memory it seemed like the “save settings to device” button either wasn’t present in the beta, or wasn’t working.

[pure wing]

they're correct the save isn't present in this update.

[solemn wyvern]

So probably this is catching out people who haven’t save the setting to the device in wl2 before changing to the beta

[pure wing]

I've checked with the Wave XLR and XLR Dock.

Also, input gain does revert back to 45DB vs my configured 60

that might be due the save function as well.

so we might see more of this.

[ocean lichen]

yeah i definitely dont need the cloudlifter but its moreso an issue of im a quiet speaker so it just sorta just adds some gain extra without cranking it in wave link

[pure wing]

that mic is usually a good 65db without a cloud lifter, start there. (I have one of these.)

[ocean lichen]

im gonna try that :D would free up some desk clutter too

[solemn wyvern]

Boosters a nice to have. But I bet once you volume matched recordings it would be a subtle difference in background hiss, at the end of the day.

I guess you decide if it’s worth taking it out and adding 20dB digitally in the compressor plugin or something… or go through the hassle of going back to wl2 and trying to save the 48v setting.

[pure wing]

I hope it works out.

[pure wing]

the save might be ideal, but let's see what happens.

I'm curious too.

[ocean lichen]

thank you! i appreciate the help❤️ i think its sounding good

[pure wing]

awesome!!!

[devout dragon]

anybody struggling to download wave cast to thier second pc?

[mild adder]

so when I listen to my mic through wave link, I don't hear background sound as I have the effects on but if I listen through windows sounds? I hear everything and I worry that my games also hear my mic without the effects, have I set it up wrong?

[solemn wyvern]

Your default input is set wrong.
“Mic in” is the hardware device. Select that to hear the raw mic audio right off the hardware.
To have apps receive your mic audio after being processed by the effects you have in wave link, create a mix output that contains just the mic. (Call in microphoneFX if you want it to have the same name it had in wavelink 2)
Then select that mix output with just the mic as your default audio input, and select in as the mic input in apps like discord, just to be sure it doesn’t switch on you when devices are added or removed from the system.

[mild adder]

Thank you!

[tranquil oxide]

Every time I start my PC, the app says that my 48v is off, but the indicator on the Wave XLR is on

Is this a v3 bug?

[solemn wyvern]

Scroll up a bit…

[earnest zephyr]

Until now, I've been using Nvidia Broadcast to eliminate noise and Voicemeeter Banana for routing. I tried installing WaveLink 3.0 and found it very convenient, but for some reason Nvidia Broadcast won't start. I uninstalled WaveLink 3.0 and it started up, so I think the software is the cause. How can I use WaveLink 3.0 and Nvidia Broadcast at the same time?

[mystic kindle]

Interesting. It's quite confusing though if I have a Elgato Device connected to my PC and it doesn't show up under the header "Elgato Devices".

Maybe this ought to be changed to avoid confusion.

[tranquil oxide]

As I already said, I think it's pretty unnecessary. People will be more confused if the Stream Deck is displayed there but has no settings.

And if you have a Stream Deck, you download the proprietary software anyway, and then you know that your device works and is recognized.

[atomic sierra]

is anyone here familiar with wavecast?

[hot iris]

Good evening everyone my name is Harpreet. It’s nice to meet all of you guys. I have a stream deck MK two.

[pure wing]

I understand the mechanics of it, but I haven't had a chance to use it yet.

[pure wing]

that would be in #stream-deck 🙂