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I'm not very good at English. Can anyone speak Chinese?
That is also what I thought too. But it honestly could be interpreted many ways!
Unfortunately this server is English only for moderating purposes, but if it helps your English is really good! 
I feel quest 3 is a good lesson that you don't need iaps or ults to make you truly happy 
Oh! Then I feel very lonely now.
I'm sorry to hear that! We're happy to have you here, are you a beta tester? 
We'll still be your friend! 
It used to be, but not now, because the application account has been lost.
QAQ
Oh the 2nd quest was so confusing, TGC has got to make some distinction between more trivial objective pings on the area, and the current season quest objective
Hopefully you can rejoin if we get a new invite wave 
Currently we're testing the season of blue bird, which is based on a stage play by the same name
if you'd like you can have a look at #beta-screenshots-videos message to see what's new so far
My screen was full of objective markers because of the dye plants
Oh did you have a radiance quest active still?
I think it's because I haven't completed the past season, but yeah, it might make it confusing for some players
I do, I wasn't active enough to finish that season
Because of this, I still feel very sad.
That's worth sharing with devs in #beta-feedback because it could definitely be confusing as you experienced! Not everyone will have the same quest progress for past seasons, I know if location markers overlap for me I'd get so lost 
I hope you're lucky enough to enter your way into the beta applications soon! 💖
Mhm! I'll make sure to do that :D
Thank you
Hoping for new invites soon so all the people waiting can get in 
OUT_OF _THE _CONTEXT
- Prairie has 12 SCs
- Do others hear the new call ? Anyone tried ? I don't have any active friends rn.
Days of Colors and Days of Rainbow are different events right?
New call, Bitopan! 
#beta-screenshots-videos message
Another thing I plan to feedback, is that the quests feel too repetitive, and too short for the amount of content it gives us
I got bored really fast and that's not usual for me since I'm very patient
Maybe I'm not in a good mood, idk, but all the quests feel the same, but with slightly altered objectives that in the end consist of grabbing feathers and then at the end it doesn't go as planned ("same, same, but diiifferent!")
And then, idk if it's intentional, but it feels like the bird REALLY does not wanna get caught LOL
It keeps making me hit random wind barriers, not being able to turn properly, suddenly changing the direction of my flight, etc.
#beta-discussion but no, theyre technically the same just renamed a few years ago to reflect its not just about rainbows, but all colours as a whole
Days of Color is the new name for Days of Rainbow, as far as I know
""New"" bc it's been like that for a few years now
Okay but that bird... that DAMN BIRD... 
Cause I thought it was during pride month so I thought it was related to 🏳️🌈
Why does it hate me that much
I think most people reported a bit of trouble catching the bird. It seems to be kinda awkward when you get close to it
Well, I hate them even more now 
Does the new headphones have 2 dyeable parts now?
bc apparently the top part is now separate from the dyeable part 
Kinda awkward...?
It completely messed with my flying 😭
Is the cape with feathers is the ultimate reward?
I say kinda awkward cuz that's how it was for me. But either way it's still valid feedback! 
Like it got to a point where I spammed swiping my finger to to turn right, but I just wouldn't
(Obs.: the bird was far away already)
I said it like that for dramatic effect don't worry 😭
I'm also glad they added more effects to the cape...
beta does not know anything about what anything will be, be that f2p, season pass locked, ultimates, IAPs, or anything of the sort
youll find out whats the ults when the season is live in like 2 months
The bird kept using its telekinesis power to keep launching me away and mess with my aerial movement 
That's what it felt like 
I know that though. But can a friend hear the new call instead of default moth call. I asked that cause I have heard a lot of default moth calls from strangers. I tried to ask one of them, but no proper reply.
from what i saw it sounds like moth call to other players, and it resets when you restart the game(?)
If it helps, seems like the call resets to the default one after you reopen the game, that's an indicator that it probably just works for you, and not for others
That's how it was for previous calls as well!
Pretty common for new calls. It's a fairly normal bug found in testing new calls
Quests being repetitive is also a thing in the other seasons imo. All I can think is the remembrance where we collect the lantern stuff and place stuff in shared spaces, radiance too with the dye collection. Sanctuary too, with the bell scavenger hunt
To me I think this season quests are rather interesting, it shows the different attempt of finding the happiness in the form of the Blue Bird, be it via riches, finding the nostalgia and trying to wear something and yet all doesn't give true happiness. Tbh personally the quests are following the story nicely
Imo remembrance had it the worst with the repetition xD all you do is just place stuff and business done 
I'm ready to cry in quest 2
Season with "Repetitive" Quests:
Enchantment
Sanctuary
Dreams
Assembly
Abyss
Shattering
AURORA
Remembrance
Moments
Moomin
Radiance
not sure about most of these
It's more so the clash of content vs repetitivity
Radiance was nice because you would get a reward for it, and it wasn't rlly a pain
But I feel like the quests could be a little more engaging, considering that they're not that long
I felt that way in beta where the quests are one after another, so I can only imagine how it will be in live, waiting weeks for another short similar quest, with very similar text at the start and end
Not trying to be a hater but I wish they would make a new map or something kinda bored go to season area just sit and teleport like that... Seems like they are too lazy to make a map :/
they'll probably improve the area like the Moomin area
Oh yeah idk about Dreams and Abyss but Assembly is a chore 
What I meant by repetitive was that it feels like the same story, but with a different "motive" based on the character
Abyss however, had some really cool quests!
I mean, it does follow the blue bird story. That's the point of it
I see, I might be in a bad day, I was expecting a bit more for some reason
That's literally just like dreams
Saying that, as I'm curious of what the grandpa and the lumberjack dad quests will be about
Not all quests were the same though, but to some degree yeah
For me Enchantment has the best storyline
But it's looking like all quests will be like that
Enchantment is literally just the same "catch da light"
I would argue Abyss has the epic two-layered story quests
One of my favorite seasons
I remember when people said the 4th quest was boring and they made it jaw dropping
Yeah most the season quests like that hahaha but I like the story..like how they ended up being there and live there
It's a story of Cannoneer and their treasure hunt competition and whatever the heck was the monster
Really 
Maybe it's just not polished yet, I'll wait until I see more updates, so I can think properly about how I feel
I think the season area could be improved a little, but overall sombre atmosphere fits the depression sadness theme going on while in pursuit of true happiness
It’s giving me the vibes of remembrance and I’m here for it
What why did my message get krilled
Which season does that have bear mask I forget that it's gonna be the worst season ever... I for the name of that season
Passage
Yes!
They said they updated it based on feedback.
The quest went from "grab more diamonds!" to a more difficult path, with krills along the way, and when you got to the bottom of it and finally reach the diamond, you're actually triggering the underwater gate to open, which leds to a really ominous cutscene that revealed the big krill to us
And the final quest is just cinema, really, one of my favorite quests ever
Ooohoho
Tbh I feel the story is already outlined to begin with and they're testing the initial grab da rocks first before dropping the epicness of the monster.
It's because creating the cutscene and all the monsters would take a lot of resources to be added if it's due to feedback
I feel like those quests were made so the players could get used to the underwater mechanics!
And also to make a gradual progression on difficulty
I'm a big fan of the stomping on a jar sounds when we run across the stone stage 
I'm curious what the initial version of the Q4 was like
The stage is actually a jar
A giant jar all along
There must be videos of it on youtube
Am I allowed to send links here?
Dm me!
dm meee i wanna see, WAIT NO NEVERMIND I KNOW THAT IT'S JUST THE TOWER
#beta-screenshots-videos message
also most hairs won't be seeing this part either way
I'd still
anyway
you know what I'd advocate for instead
2 dyeslots so you can change the band and earmuffs separately
yes :D, i want that high key
I just sent my feedback on the cosmetics and included that thought 
Third quest that bird tried to throw hands on the first contact but I finally managed to catch him despite being stuck in speedy flight and completed the quest. ^_^
The 2nd quest is supposed to be in the elevated area right? I can't find the guide SOB
the duster allegations continue to spread 
but yeah when I saw the cape underside I was like
that is like...like I swear there's a product out there that's smooth one side and with the noodle strands on the other and it's used to wipe things
I've seen it before
gonna use the passage ult and new blue bird cape to sweep the dust from my desk 
don't forget the chibi duster from mischief, that one's really good too
spring cleaning time
why is the blue bird giving everyone depression dawg 😭
blue birb season cosplayers just have to stick their floor towel under their capes, cosplay strats
guys i havent touched beta in years but id just like to say that if this is their way of returning seasons (spirits rehashed) then i wanna see a lightseekers return 
I'm super excited for that personally 
Idk why I am not much excited about next season.Leaving one or two IAP items all other things are mid, didn't like the colour combination of items much but it's sad people will still buy
and people can enjoy things they like 😌 nothing wrong about that
you get to save money and others can get cool stuff™️
We need better combination of colours that's all I say
And rhythm too 
#beta-screenshots-videos message yall, how we feeling about the ult cape having more of a bird shape?
I prefer the simpler one like we have. There's a hidden bird flock visible only when we dye this cape like in #beta-screenshots-videos message
I think the simple exterior conveys the message that true happiness is not found in the riches, fancy costumes etc etc but it's right in front you, all within you
Also reminds of how grandma and grandparent are counterparts, thus sharing similar shape language and I think it's a cute detail 
id personally like if it had a more wing-like shape, just not super detailed. since it already has feathers
It's nothing wrong that people like the items and would want to buy passes for them. It's all up to your personal taste 
Aurora wings turned angel cape 🙏🙏 for ult trust
sky: birds of the light 
Why beaned
idk what beaned means but I thought the krill emote funny cuz i semi disagree cuz this season's cosmetics looks hella fancy, and the bird cape would be comfy/ provide comfort
I mean, that's exactly what it is, the simple cape is cozy enough imo
The design you drew explicitly specify "fancy" and in my view the design looks too busy considering the feathers
The current design fits what grandma would make, it looks like some classic embroidered furniture cloth, especially the hidden flock of birds when you dye it
Honestly at first the rug under the cape was kinda weird but it’s goofy I like it now 
I love the surprise element like on the outside it's modest and then when you flap suddenly ur a bird all along 
Also the new bulb shaped cape is so cute and elegant 
true, I could refine the design to be a bit softer/ rounder bird so its a bit more like a blanket so that its not just round
Just make sure it doesn't intrude the hidden flock of bird, which I think is meant to be a focal point when you dye it
idk the feathers look kinda out of place on this current cape shape
i'm not expecting a mischief raven-like cape; it can be a soft roundish shape and still resemble wings a little bit more
isn't it basically a moth cape
like, the iap moth cape style of moth
I just personally read it as such
like, oooh the books story (look I haven't had the time to fo the quests I'm sorry) is about finding happiness in the ordinary, and what's more ordinary on sky than a moth
A "moth" is a new player. They have brown wings, they flap around uncontrollably, and they are drawn to flame!
Yeah! I agree with this take. The cape may look ordinary but there's true joy within the ordinary
I love the rounded shape that's reminiscent of moth wings
then make it the base-game cape shape 😌
they're giving you an expensive iap cape for a seasonal pass and you're complaining 🙄 /lhj
same price in the end 😔 base cape shape is the superior cape shape
very true honestly
GGRRAAHHH I NEED MORE MOTH ABD BUTTERFLY CAPES PLEASE IM ON MY KNEES
i saw moth cape get mentioned
in your opinion, is the new cape moth or not 
which cape there's like two
the glowy feather one
hmm its very shaped.... its almost moth, its like one step away from moth but rn its just moth core
I think it works much better. The current shape ends up making it look quite clunky due to the feathers on the underside
What they suggested also looks nicer with the shoulder details, in my opinion that is
It’s also worth noting that we have tons of capes just like base cape shape- though that’s applicable to bird capes as well ♥️
the feathers underneath somewhat take away from the moth-ness though and the sheer vibrant color choice strikes me as more butterfly like as there are neutral toned butterflies that have a very vibrant alternative side of their wings behind the neutral coloration, just like how some moths are fully vibrant and not as neutral toned as they're often associated so this cape actually strikes me as more butterfly like but is shaped more soft like moths' wings with a more tapered wing
specifically this cape is very reminisce of the menelause blue morpho butterfly to me than it is a moth based on its design, a very pretty butterfly definitely
#beta-screenshots-videos message I tried to make it more blanket
I'm glad I'm not imagining the resemblance 
personally I think it's a fun twist, we have like a billion bird-adjacent capes, plus you don't expect a non-bird cape to open up and whoooosh, feathers be upon ya
im sorry that you asked specifically me a simple question and it resulted in a paragraph
no no I love seeing people talk about things they're passionate about
i do this so often 😭😭😭
don't let anyone stop you
i would love to see more bug themed capes though, i like the moth and butterfly capes we have rn but they're just nit as customizable as i would like considering how vast and versatile actual moths and butterflies are in their colors and wing shapes, with some being hard to tell the difference of if it weren't for their antennae or dormsnt wing placement when resting
most moths are pretty soft even when vibrantly colored leaning on a more pastel side of things, but a lot of butterflies actually have brown or even mostly black colors on them (some being almost fully black) or having almost glass-like wings
guuuhgghhh iridescent butterfly cape...... emperor butterfly..........
where are my butterfly antennae tgc....... my monarch neck fluff.......
its 5am and im going insane. anyways if the new cape gets a more solid edge to its wings rather than appearing more tapered i think that would be very peak and blue morpho core and i would cry tears of joy but i love the tapered edges bc it's soft and inviting
#beta-screenshots-videos message
I prefer this one it’s cozy but isn’t the cape supposed to look similar to the white belonging cape?
Hmmm the design idea isn't what I expected tbh, it's clunkier imo xD even wouldn't work with the secret bird flock pattern
The big bulky round black cape looks like a cute beetle to me. ^_^
Yeah that’s why I said it would be intentional on why it looks like that 😭 it is to reference Belonging
Beetle!!! I love this take too
it can be similar and have a very different shape design, i think that idea works very well by having fully tapered wings and a soft pallete to go with, though i prefer the current pallete and think it could be a little more rounded methinks to help with the very huggable look the current cape has that i like
I love how it's directly referencing to belonging and i love the current shape so much. It just works perfectly for the theme considered
Idk why everyone is so persistent on a bird shaped cape like I’m sorry 😭
(I think I’m annoyed by how people are saying the blue bird theme doesn’t make sense for sky)
Same 😭 like the story isn't all about a /bird/, it's philosophical and I think the current ult cape reflects the theme of happiness being in the ordinary
That was my original issue with it, don't mind the colors I used, it's supposed to be the same colors as the original. Still, even if they put like 3 tiny bump extension stuff to the cape like a bloated bird, would be cute. Sorry, I just love birds a lot and it's simplicity is both nice but it felt like something was missing
i love bird capes that's like my only reason but i would love the cape even if it stayed as is, its the starry cape that i actually want to have a tail tbh lol (more like a tailcoat style tail over a birdlike)
Fair that can be tweaked out but the ult should stay the same
🤝
still liking the galaxy butterfly / moth shape going on with the other cape ngl
the ult looks so huggable and warm and im obsessed with the fact it reminds me of a blue morpho
YESSS blue morpho butterflyy
u missed my rant about it 💔 lolol
Still, I do love the cape and it's not like my drawing would change anything at all, only drew it based on my own preferences/ wearability
I know I know I read it but I agree with ur rants on the morpho butterfly vibe 
it's like, belonging cape but make it ✨️extraordinary in the ordinary✨️
my only gripe with the other, scarab-like cape is the back neckline is very. clipping through hairstyles shaped lol
I like when simple cosmetics help out an outfit, less is more 🗣️
Agreed, sometimes it doesn't have to be fancy to be ult worthy
That's also why I think the cute dark blue bulb cape is my favourite out of non ult (maybe) capes from this season, its soooooo stinking cute
im very attached to the ult already and i think i will cry if they take away those vibrant feathers on the underside
I will cry too I doubt it tho it's so special to the cape alone
When the season comes on live I will be screaming and crying for every quest /hj
yea its unlikely, but i think i'll be sad if they even make them less vibrant lol
tho i would be fine with a feather shape change (perhaps more like the sparrow capes' neck shaped feathers) i really don't want the color to change at all
Ohh I agree with the sparrow neck feather shape! I think rounded shape would fit nicely
yessss i think i will go feedback that 
I wish we would get a cape like that blue feather mask accessory T^T it would look so good as a cape kinda similar to aurora butterfly wings
Let's gooooo I like both versions but I think the rounded feathers would work nicely
@spiral lodge #beta-screenshots-videos message
that spirit following you is VERY invested in the bird flock pattern 
I mean they are bird whisperer for a reason

They want to study the hidden bird flock 
i hit discord text limit so bad i had to remove a small paragraph to get it to send 💔💔💔
skybot couldn't fit it all in one message.....
was so horrible i had to reword stuff too to make it shorter bc even after shortening it so it didn't say i was over the word count it still said i was over the word count 💔 but it sent and i kept most of the feedback fully intact (it was only about the seasons capes help me)
i left a feedback about the starry underside cape having maybe a small crescent moon ir half moon shaped tail to pull the back together (the current tail feels very empty to me)
mainly specifically that bc it has some moon-shaped motifs on the front
it is 5:40am goodnight beta i will try to sleep i didn't realize the time 😭😭
Oh the moon shaped accessory / floating moon at the end of it or something would be a nice idea 
#beta-screenshots-videos message Cy, I love you

why 
you managed to draw what i thought was off/ missing from it without changing much from the design
I just try to respect the direction the capes seem to be going
the cape looked like it was trying to be similar to the original grandma cape so I figured it just needs a few tiny changes to vary it up
cuz your version was good but the problem with the more aggressive feather shapes is it destroys the secret dye pattern, which I feel is the cape's highlight
also you don't need to ping reply me
I see messages as is since chat is slow 
I am very okay with individual pings but it’s the replies I’m like 
but yeah I only realised the feather problem when I was about to send my drawings I was like
cuz I'd only drawn the top silhoutte over the bottom then was like hm....there really is something off about those feathers still and idk what it is
Wait it looks a lot better, it’s really simple
so I started drawing proper bird feather shapes over top and was like >:0c that's what felt wrong about it
it was more passage cape aggressive random feathers thrown in as opposed to [this should feel like a bird]
you get what I mean
I agree with cy's take, I think it's what I meant by keeping it simple
Though I mainly agree on the feather fix too, it's probably better more /outward/ in direction. Maybe slightly rounded to give it cozy feeling
oh god I just realised what the silver cape reminded me of in another way 
you know when you put tofu/gelatinous objects through a strainer, that 
@lavish matrix my argument has never been [make the thing more ult-worthy] it's just [the design feels weird] and I'm making an objective comparison to other designs
just because I say the cape is 'ult-like', is merely an objective statement that the features it posseses is like an ult, that's it.
I see, I misunderstood the statement about the comparison between the seasonal cape and what might be the ult 
does the feather cape remind anyone else of those default windows backgrounds you see on every new pc
strong windows 11 vibes
honestly the floof looks so photoshoped that I'm almost insure if beta is pulling a prank on live lurkers and editing in the cape that doesn't exist
... the silence speaks for itself 
I dunno I have a Mac 
what do you guys expect me to feedback? "the cape is too fake"? "tell testers to stop editing in the windows flower onto the cape"? "will this be sky in 2014"?
honestly yall can just admit you cut out the bird face accessory out of the aurora ult dot png, I won't judge
Ah those extra candles are a daily thing at the moment 
hello i wanted to try beta but idk im a bit confused and new here
how does it work? will we get the stuff in beta? like keep them? or no? im confused as i said its my first time
well that's dependent on you even getting into beta, and beta invites haven't been sent out for years
as far as i can tell, beta players will maintain access to the stuff that's in testing so long as the developers don't decide to remove things from the beta builds. and if the design of a given cosmetic changes, the previous version of the cosmetic is not accessible unless they make it a separate item entirely
whether the invites will be sent out again soon or not, you might want to start with reading #beta-faq 
thanks
sorry..i still didnt understand 
the words u used were a bit difficult to understand
basically, clothing items in development will stay in the closet of beta players as long as the developers allow it. some things get may get removed or change appearance over time, because they choose to go in a different direction with the design. you can't have the previous design unless the developers decide to make it a separate clothing item entirely
ohhh thankies!! 
it's less [decide to make it a separate clothing item] than it is usually [they added a new thing/updated the old design and the game went weewoo so you can't own the new thing but you have the old version grandfathered in so some people just have a Stick™️]
I do not like the blue feather cape... too heavy under and so beige/grey over. And the frills are so dull.. like make them sparkly silver. Also the shape boring and the collar I just dont like. One easy fix maybe, make the inside feathers small and delicate looking. Then the feathers would kinda match with the frills, could even make the frills a similar color to the feathers.
This could do great #beta-feedback 
I feel this cape kinda boring. The model theres nothing special, just the hidden feathers
Its a cleanner version of the cosmic cape from wise grandparent from this season
They can also just decide to reset all accounts if they need for testing purposes, although the last time it happened it was optional (technically hasn't happened yet, but it will happen in the next few days I think)
Doesn't mean they can't just wipe everyone's account if they want, beta is just a test environment after all, not a replacement for the live game
Man that blue light that removes the spirits texture and makes them look real is kinda cursed 😭
I like the new cape
when you dye it, birds appear on the lower end of the cape 
when we get a season called the blue bird with no bird shaped capes
the ult cape looks like a reskin of the darker version but more boring... beige and shoulder pads my beloathed
I’m not the biggest fan of shoulder pads either, just because they look kind of silly on short skykids
but I like everything else about it
I don’t really mind the shape of the feather cape but the galaxy one looks weird
the shape is horrendous, i like the cute birds post-dye but bird wing shapes would be so much cuter and more ultimate feeling
The galaxy one is too long at the front and too short from the back
Something i took note of is if the feathered cape is an ult they might be trying to make it similar to grandmas original cape, as she seems to be the blue bird guide (for now)
Quest 2 made me WEEP. Oh my gosh. It hits home, my heart
. I really love the storytelling
I'm excited to see lots of cool edits, but I think I'm also in a minority where I think all of the seasonal items are god tier already 
I reaaaally like all the big and small details in the cosmetics
. I avoided looking at chats before I checked them out and finding all the details was so nice
I see you, @somber oyster, you should probably sleep, brah 
Secret birds on the feather cape is so cute!
Yes!
NO GOD NO THE FIRST QUEST GAVE ME HELLA CANDLES BUT AT THE COST OF MY SANITY, MY SEASON CANDLE IS A TERRIBLE FRACTION
Yes it does that 
I will never recover 
oh no F for candle?
fluffy blue birds in the screenshots 
also I got 11 candles and 8.horrible-fraction season candles from quest 1
sorry if this is a stupid question but has there been any new information released about the season of the blue bird besides cosmetics?
We've got 3 season quests to test and the spirits are belonging gang, it seems as though the story is to do with finding happiness - it's based on a story and stage play of the same name but I haven't ever read/watched the original or adaptation so I'm guessing based on discussions here and the quests
Anyone else feeling like a reaper during the 2nd quest? I mean you take them from a lovely scene to their literal tombstones 💀
I still can't believe we stole grandma from her cane 
I know it was so sad 😭. My heart felt so heavy
but I didn’t mind it, I really enjoyed the quest. Immediately called my grandma after too and told her I love her 
It's for all extents and purposes a collab, even if it's not technically. It still adapts a separate story from Sky
Same tbh. Like look, blue bird is never all about a literal blue bird
I'd say the actual list goes like this.
By repetitive, let's define it as: "having extremely similar gameplay for each quest, an extremely similar setting for each quest, or both"
Enchantment (similar gameplay)
Sanctuary (similar gameplay and similar setting)
Assembly (similar setting)
Shattering (similar-ish gameplay, depends on when you started it)
Aurora (similar gameplay)
Remembrance: (similar gameplay and similar setting)
Moments: (similar gameplay)
Moomin: (similar gameplay, similar setting for the main quests)
Radiance: (similar gameplay)
Trust me, making something unattainable ever again is enough to make any cosmetic god tier
This is definitely needed, the cohesiveness within the Sky world has taken a big hint
something relating to scarcity affecting value
Yup, the black mask from rhythm kind of became moot after they released the masks from assembly. The reason the mask was so sought after was because it was the only one of its kind.
I still feel the ult from this season could use a little bit more oomph. Not because it’s needed, but because there’s an opportunity for them to add it. They added this really cool effect with the feathers and I can’t help but feel a small shape update would make it better still.
It makes sense like, it's kinda like grandma & grandpa being counterparts
I don't believe ults should be /high tier super detailed etc/, I like when it fits the core theme of seasons etc
So I don't think any major or aggressive redesign is needed. Something like feather texture improvement will suffice
I really want to gush about the 3rd season quest. The spirit there from little prince was all about vanity and wanting praises. They ended up doing that with the most sought after cosmetics in the game and people wanting exclusive attention for having them 😅😅
It’s very smart
I really like the current shape, it's super cozy and reminds me of my grandma yk
I think the design is very grandma core
The design of the blue feather cape reminds me more of wise grandpa. The gold tassels at the end of wise grandpa’s cape got translated to silver tassels. And the way light bounces off is similar to the feel of his cape as well
I don’t really enjoy the third quest cause the whole unachievable items being on show and then taken from us as a lesson in vanity not equalling happy just makes me sad. To me, wanting those items to come back isn’t a bad thing, and whether that’s the intention of the quest or not I don’t know, but the more I think on it the more frustrating it is
Although each quest feels like it’s going to challenge our philosophy on happiness and things we want and learning to be happy without them. It just brings up a lot of complicated feelings
It’s worth noting though, not all items in the third quest were ultimates, some appear to just be popular amongst the community, so is it a study or criticism of community values
again I can’t tell what the aim is
Yeahh I know but grandma in belonging does wear the same cape as grandpa :D
What I mean is that it feels like what grandma (in general, even real life) would own or make. Something Something antique furnitures, clothes
It seems to be the latter thought, but I saw some items that aren't even /that/ sought after, only some of them are so...maybe a balance?
I think it too. To me this design is better than the cosmic one, just the shinny feather are a bit strange, but the effects are beautiful
I was hoping they would bring back capes that give you a colored trail after season of revival. Glad they brought that back
And they spicied it up with the feather falling effect too, its so cool
I guess it depends cause like, there are many items that different parts of the community want or enjoy a lot, which is always going to be the case because people will have different tastes
but my focus was on the ult stuff mainly because I have the other stuff and those ults are ones I’ve hoped will return 
I also wonder if the items shown are simply placeholders, but I can’t think what they would be exchanged for because belonging already have their own items so I couldn’t imagine the quest using those, and using the new blue bird items also wouldn’t make sense 
I also love how the blue isn’t a persistent blue, which is why it feels super nice when you see the trails changing color
It’s impressive and fun how far they’ve come on cape designs and elements in the game
This reads as weird to me because tgc is the one who controls whether items come back and how obtainable they are. I can see it reading a bit like telling your own playerbase to get out and touch grass if they’re unhappy rather than listening to feedback, even though I really don’t think it was the intention
i really do wish the feather length varied as many have already pointed out. please remember to feedback this if you agree. for mischief raven cape there was a lot of feedback about the feathers there too but considering what we got in live none of it was listened to … so we have to make sure tgc gets the message this time 
Yeah!! The new items surprised me pleasantly
I actually took it to mean, gate keeping and exclusively pining for praise because you have something others don’t have isn’t going to make you happy.
Aka, happiness is in sharing, not hogging.
The items we try on may as well be just placeholders
. they didn’t really feel in-theme with anything to me
I think that’s why I have complicated feelings about it! Like I said the intention might not be that, but using such specific items just brings the whole community issue regarding said items to the forefront of my mind 
yeah like, it's been a thing in whatever helpshift article for a long time that ultimate gifts aren't gone for good and may return some day
they just haven't had them return in any form beyond triumph handpan (only accessible if you have funds) and performance ult hair (remix of rhythm ult hair)
they need to either make good on their word or be transparent about their plans
Personally I hate these remixes. Because I want the originals. It shares the spirit in the remix, but doesn’t fix the problem of exclusivity. Exclusivity that was only there because players played at an earlier time.
This is an interesting theory too, I guess we’ll see what happens as the quest develops further, and they may very well be outdated or undecided items since it’s the first build we’ve seen so far for this quest. It’s just interesting to think about what it could mean given the theme of the season 
Although me anytime they show an ult somewhere: IS THIS A SIGN THEY’RE COMING BACK

I don't understand why they can't bring them back, the old owners have the pendants to prove they were there for the original season. I guess we'll never know.
Hmm I don't personally read it that way, I think the quest is all about vanity, hogging and flexing the items, or thinking one feels superior due to the certain items. But yeah like beta it's not obvious if it's going to be this way or not
Maybe the quest is saying SAY GOODBYE TO YOUR FAVOURITE COSMETICS, THE MOTHENING IS UPON YE based on confetti cousin getting slapped with moth hair after 
Bc from the way the items are chosen and displayed, /not/ all are ults, there are some that are popular yet very "gatekept" or "popular flex" thing on display like the bat cape and fire prophet pants
Very true, and that’s a message I can get behind!
oh yeah, the ootd of yesteryear pieces 
I just took it to mean that because this location was for that one spirit from the little prince that wanted praise and attention from everyone. When you put it in the context of cosmetics that are no longer available, people who have them really want to gatekeep them for one and only one reason, because they have something others don’t have.
And anytime you light up someone who does have these older cosmetics, you tie their identity as a “veteran”, “older player”. Honestly, I don’t know why they get so happy with this kind of hollow appraisals, but whatever.
Yeah bc like if they go with what you're suggesting, they could've chosen it to be all ults or limited items but no they include some of the extremely popular items in the community despite being some are returnable TS items
Idk why DoStyle dress is there xD maybe something something looking stylish
I remember how many people wanted the fire prophet pants lmao and directors cape from rhythm.
Yeahh I remember when fire prophet is coming back I hear comments complaining that they don't feel "special" anymore bc of their return 😭
I'm wary about it being a critique on that too though, because it seems difficult to use player feelings as an example regardless of if we as individuals agree with those specific feelings or not 
Yup yup that’s how I see it too
happiness is in sharing. At the end of the day, like aurora said, you can’t eat money xD. In sky’s case, you can’t eat exclusivity.
But honestly this specific quest has a good lesson, you don't need any or all the fancy items or popular stuff to be truly happy. There may be a joy in the ordinary
Oh glad to see more people realized the same thing with the third quest. The implied message and the fact that they used those ults and cosmetics. I was like, okay that's ... fishy
This feels very close to home with the morals, and I think that's the point because naturally we all have our morals and the theme of the blue bird appears to challenge each of them on purpose? Making us question what is happiness makes sense in a game like Sky, but I'm also very scared brain at it 
Frankly, what makes me sad is how relevant this type of sentiment, the wanting to feel special is, everywhere. Even outside of sky.
People want to make sure that when they attain something, they would deny others who don’t have it yet, the opportunity to get it as well.
I wouldn’t be surprised if a portion of the sky community wants an older ult, but once they get it, they don’t want others to be able to. Aka they’re. Now in the in crowd.
Also true. Not everyone who looks like that is necessarily gatekeeping, and it’s a rough thing to convey with nuance in the way sky quests are usually played
I get that 😭
I know what the quest was going for and what it wants to represent but at the same time it felt a little like the game was telling me "haha look a dreams ult mask for you :) jk you'll never have it"
and while I know that's not the intention it dulls the actual meaning of the quest for me a little 😭
Yeah it's as relevant as it is outside sky. Like when I tried some ults during Style, it didn't actually fit the way I thought. So I feel better with what I already own bc they speak to me more than the old ults
Wait I just clocked the whole location, I expected performance cause costumed confetti and was surprised to see narci island, but I was like well it's a stage too lol BUT YALL ARE RIGHT, THE MIRRORS, THE FACT IT'S NARCI ISLAND
This is a really interesting, critical choice 
I don’t mind if they make that blatant, you know why? Because players who don’t feel that way, won’t be offended by it. But players who do feel that way, feel attacked by it. lol, they wouldn’t like the sense of someone pointing out something actually true about them
Yeah!! The theme on whether vanity truly brings you joy
I wouldn't want any players to feel negatively perceived I guess, that's what makes me pause about this quest in particular, knowing how there's so many different feelings about cosmetics and limited items and freedom to dress how we like and what is or isn't popular amongst the community - I find this quest to be bold in a way if it is tackling those aspects, but concerning if it could upset players
I mean sometimes stories will make you ponder and reflect, that's one good thing about them
Like why should everyone be coddled. Sometimes they need a hard reality and lesson in their lives be it through stories. That's just my opinion maybe I sound like a boomer xD
I am indeed pondering and reflecting on my choice to get the candles in quest 1 when they have left me with not a full but not a half fraction of seasonals
grey I'm suffering
I mean quest 1 is exactly a reflection that being rich doesn't bring you joy, it's just there
but candles
It’s not that black and white though. People feel things in different ways and for different reasons and I know I internalize things pathologically in an attempt to make sure I’m not a bad person somehow, but that is probably just me

I actually have some other thoughts about the first quest though, but I shared them in feedback already 
Honestly I don't want them to "tone down" the quest bc of the very deep reflection of the very topic of what it means to be happy from the looks. I don't know you but it's a very much needed thing to be reminded of
I feel its important in a way that you can be happy in what makes you
I wonder if you can run away with the items actually..... you can do a full run around citadel during quest 1, I'm gonna see if I can escape into the rest of starlight with anubis mask
I have to go this convo is getting hard on me ⚱️I don’t even have old ults or anything I’m just ill I guess
Exactly, without attributing a sense of identity and purpose to what you have that others don’t have.
This topic can always be a bit divisive and it's okay to feel how you do! It's okay to take a break if you need it, but you're always welcome to share your thoughts here - I've really appreciated your perspective! 
It speaks a lot to the state of world affairs for me too.. maybe that’s why I’m so passionate about this topic as a whole
Yep I think it's also meant to say. If you try to follow what others like to wear or seem to be popular, you'll end up losing the very unique identity and "become" part of them, which makes you feel less standing out and the praises may be hollow
I might post my thoughts on each quest, but it'll be a whole text wall 
I think before you finish the quest the entire mirror stadium area is in some sort of box? I couldn't see the rest of starlight desert until I got to hold the spirit's hand I think
but who knows maybe you can escape with a friend or some other way 👀
This feels much more like what they could intend us to take from the quest theme, I definitely do agree it's important to highlight vanity being a part of humanity and a part that we should challenge. How we appear physically will always bear importance in some way, but letting it dictate our happiness is also something that we should reflect on too!
I'm going to attempt crime, will let you know how it goes 
bubba escaping with anubis under narci's nose bc he's too busy with mirror admiring
Good luck!
Also, it's been nice to read all your theories!
Maybe with warp perhaps?
out-thieved 😔
I would like to challenge this quest because the joy I felt flying away with anubis owl vs the AGONY when they were taken back from me IS VERY MUCH NOT WHAT HAPPINESS IS ABOUT
happiness is not all around us it's gone it was TAKEN
PRIED FROM MY HANDS
I AM PAIN
can't spell happiness without pain I guess
It's bubba and the candles part 2
somewhere in the universe there's a narrator and they're saying "that's the point" but I can't hear them over my crying
sad news I found out earlier
the feathers falling effect of the blue feather cape doesn't show up in shared memories 💔
Rip,,, it's too delicate to be in a shared memory 😭
I wonder what it looks like when we get drained light does the feather effect still kinda show up
OH MY GOD YOU GUYS I FIXED THE FRACTION SEASON CANDLE I COLLECTED AN ORB 
I was trying to test this but butterflies keep chasing me to recharge me 
don't you need to boost for the feathers to appear?
the cape looks cool when drained though 👀
Oh wait I just thought it was cape feathers not the ones that fall, my bad
That's a cool reference, but it wouldn't make as much sense to people who played this quest before TLP's
Mmmm okay imma give my thoughts on the quests and my personal analysis. But be prepared for a text wall 
Okay so I finally figured out why I couldn't progress in quest 2 and I am gonna leave bits of feedback about how confusing it was to not notice there was a handhold icon at first, as well as the fact that using a controller to play and catch that blue bird is absurdly hard, even moreso with low winged light count.
Oh orange and blue cape is so funny and cute actually
So the first quest I've mentioned before, I think it's about monetary gains and how money won't buy you happiness. Headpat is seen with an abundance of candles, and as there is more and more wax/candles, more people show up. He's using his wealth to show off. But it doesn't give him true happiness and everyone around him didn't care for him, so they left when he lost all the money.
Second quest imo, is more about dwelling too much in the past and how harmful that is. Sparkler is reminiscing on past memories, which are people who have most likely passed on. But no matter how much she stays in those memories, it won't bring the family back (as sad as that is
) so the happiness should be found in focusing on the present and becoming a stronger person from our past.
Third quest was particularly interesting to me. Confetti is seen on a stage and is dressing up in extravagant clothing. But then she's seen getting her clothes taken away. Imo I'm feeling this one more leans into trying to be someone your not. She's on a stage and acting, as if she's putting on a show to hide who she truly is. And lies/deceit won't bring happiness either.
Text wall boom 💥
This is pretty much a very well summed up summary of the quests so far.
Yeah! It's just my personal interpretations. Ofc it's open to be interpreted how others think too!
I feel like I left some pretty good feedback about how I was struggling to catch the blue bird using a controller in quest 2.
Oh wait, this is really interesting! I didn’t consider those - I know in the first quest it focuses on wealth, but I didn’t consider the valley spirits maybe not actually liking or knowing headpat, I just assumed it was a scene of wealthy people being surprised that money vanishes and then they’re sad 
The second quest was really sad to me, it’s less materialistic and I think happiness can be found in memories of loved ones, but missing them when they’re gone is like a direct confrontation of that happiness and it makes memories bittersweet 
The last quest just made me think about the community values, so I didn’t consider the perspective of confetti pretending to be someone they’re not. That’s a thought provoking take away!
When will discord reply work, this was @ Luci’s message
I like the thoughts on the community values for the third too!
then I wonder if we'll have 3 other quests for the other Belonging peeps
fourth being wise grandparent, maybe how learning about everything won't bring happiness?
fifth being pleaful parent, maybe how war/glory doesn't bring happiness.
sixth being a combo, boogie kid+ belonging guide work together to finally understand what true happiness is.
Maybe so! I'm very excited to see what's coming though!!
I think it depends because in this season pleaful is a woodcutter and wise is divining??? Which I guess would be spiritual or wisdom still 
At least I think it was something to do with divining, I can't remember the name now 
Oh yes it was!
Okay so it's discovery or spooky magical insight? WISE GRANDPARENT IS A GHOST BUSTER
well I'm very excited now. I will note, I've never seen/read anything blue bird related, so idk how accurate my theories are.
This season, similar to NCD, barely adapts anything from the original besides the general setting
I like the quests, but seeing the happy spirits get depressed when we come back is sad. 
Costumed confetti cousin. Costumes. When we dress up confetti cousin gets the same get up, so both of us lose our own identity and become one and the same. It is about valuing what makes us us, and less so what's popular and cool. Isn't it more interesting to have your own experiences and grow into yourself, rather than wishing to be something you're not, or for unattinable?
Yeah that's exactly how I interpret it, Poison!
Yeah that's also my interpretation
I'm very looking forward to what the rest quests are about, especially Divining Grandparent 
The quests are very good ngl
I agree too! Quite thoughtful and makes me ponder what it is meant to be truly happy and the quests showed just that, how fleeting happiness may be when it comes to wealth, materialism and even nostalgia
I do find it funny they used the whole popular set for that quest, and the other half of items is kinda random
Yeah! I was surprised to see Style dress thing like hmm lol
And crab call hat
😭 yeah half of them random seemingly
Well variety
What article would that be in? I’m not sure where to look and I’ve been scrolling the site for a bit now
I honestly also really like how the grandparent and grandma(?) capes really play on the themes of happiness and beauty as an inner thing, that doesn't exactly need to be shown off. Really tickles me. Made for some really beautiful cosmetics too
Ohh I like that interpretation of the cosmetics!
that's very interesting
That’s such a sweet way to look at their capes! It makes a lot of sense for grandma and grandpa too, I feel like they’re very sharply dressed and would embrace something fancy but not over the top so the balance is nice 
Yesss I really love these common elements. It feels like as if grandparents know about the wisdom of what happiness is about based from their ages long experience 
It did seem very.... Idk
When confetti reverted to moth look and was sad, it felt very dismissive of people who like to dress more simply
Like as a character I'm sure confetti feels that way, but as a viewer I'm like -.- why are we elevating a very specific part of the community I don't vibe with
Could have chosen any other ults and iap
i may be stupid 😃 what do you mean by elevating the part of the community you don't vibe with exactly? (i am slightly confused on this)
The word is blocked by the filter so I'm not going to bypass it lol
That is a really good interpretation tbh. Because at one point, you and coffetti cousin also end up doing the juggle emote too (another very popular emote) and when you look at it from that perspective, i see what the message is trying to convey.
I guess if that’s really devs goal though, I just feel like arguing and fighting against it.
I feel like indirectly that interpretation is being told that we shouldn’t aspire to attain what is “unattainable”. Instead of questioning why it is “unattainable” in the first place. Or the hollow reasons for which things are kept unattainable on purpose.
In real life, sometimes that translates to equal opportunities for all.
In this case, for TGC it’s to sell passes and for players to feel like they’re special.
I don’t think looking the same between confetti cousin and the player is something that ruins their individuality, when both can find unique reasons to love something. Also something becomes ‘popular’ because it has a broad appeal, but that doesn’t mean that people can’t make the same thing their own.
The player in the quest decides what confetti cousin wears, but confetti cousin decides what emotes to use. In a way, neither is really loosing their individuality just because they dress the same. Confetti cousin, still keeps her bow too.
It's more just a specific combination of cosmetics that are showcased that rub me the wrong way + my general (personal) discomfort of maskless
That just so happen to be really popular with certain groups in the community
The visual association irks me
okay that's fair! and i think i get it yea
I personally dislike most of the animal masks. So I didn’t want to pick either one of the ults they presented (the jackal or the phoenix one) 
I will say, it is funny to see the crab call hat in the pool
I'm like is that a callback to the hell of 2022 600 candle death
Was that one also that popular? It just felt like the base game hairstyle + random hat but you couldn’t choose to take the hat off..
Ooo you have a good point
Swap one out for the assembly ult mask instead 
It's probably for a variety of choices
Many years ago it was, don't know about current day but at the time people really liked the cape more I thought
What are the other popular ults that's excluding the anubis and owl hair for example
- Flight ult feathers
- Nesting glasses (mostly cause it’s the only one of its type)
- deer mask from the first season
I will say I doubt the quest is intended to elevate the certain group, more like something as an example. Idk if I can call it a criticism to how popular it is despite having countless ways to express themselves 
Ohhh another one, belonging ult - the campfire
the nesting glasses was actually the moments ult
/info
Wait the glasses is from Moments btw 
GRATITUDE DEER BELOVED-
GRATITUDE DEER YES I think it'd be nice to swap that one of the choices with the deer
Just curious though, what group do you think it would elevate?
the specific combo that's extremely popular like fire pants, maskless, bat cape...ya know the drill
ooughh
AHHHH I see what you’re saying

And I think confetti feeling sad when returning to moth self is because they felt that it isn't what she expected from dressing up fancy. It's a reaction to the realisation
I’m thinking the choices are because the items are popular amongst the community or they’re just completely random but since they’re popular it was easy to go zip zap boom and putting them in as placeholders
it could be either or
And this would segue well to the final conclusion of what happiness is truly
they could also be showing criticism to those people as well
, like maybe looks / cosmetics aren't your true happiness, but something else
I’m wondering if moth confetti was a bug OR if it’s a reality check that we all start the same place, the only thing is we didn’t become moth too so I just guessed it’s a bug (which I gotta go report still)
Yup, in the end, you get what you wanted, but how long are you going to use it?
Probably a placeholder bug or something something you are truly a moth to begin with
i like nice looking cosmetics as much as anyone but some people do put a loott of importance on them.... kinda scary 😭
Yeah,,, 😭 especially now we have countless of ways to express who we are in sky
it's like obsession (the bad type)
It’s kind of amusing in a way. You get what you wanted, which was really the feeling of aspiring to the special place someone who had those cosmetics was in, but after you got there, it doesn’t really feel as good because now they’re no longer special and in vice versa you no longer feel special.
It’s literally syndrome from the incredibles. “when everyone’s special, no one is”
like im obsessed. with bug capes. we HAVE NONEEE UGHHH IM GONNA CRYYY but i also like bird capes and neck fluff we need more neck fluff that's not attached to capes on my knees begging lvl 4 plead emote
/not actually none but we don't have many at all 💔💔💔
This reminds me. As a moth I thought maybe I could look cool like them but ever since collecting some TS items, I found what I liked the most lol
I started out with dressing up as my favourite character as a moth and slowly I gained my own style 
the moth cape would like to know your location /j
ngl the grandpa cape is the closest thing ever to an actual moth wing shape
gggrrghhhgghhhrrhgg
Yk, on the outside, they may look "cool" but seeing that we see 192828383838393939 pictures of them on the socials...it feels like they're everywhere and it starts to feel monotone. Sky has countless cosmetics, so why not utilise them? 😭 give the 9cd deer mask some love
i like the 9cd mask a lot but i find it hard to match rn in a style i like 💔
I feel like I want the rhythm ult for a different reason. I’m tired of asking for clean v shaped bang hairstyles for years now.
Aw 💔💔 I managed to style it in many fits that I like. I'm obsessed shdjhf
i want it bc it has a ponytail and there's like 3 whole short hairstyles with a ponytail and the only other one i like is. penguin hair 💀
I want the owl hair simply bc I like owls 😭 but the association makes me wish another kind of owl cosmetics shdkhrkek
They should actually do that.. if they’re bringing aurora bsck, they should make an IAP with aurora’s v shaped bang hairstyles from “Some Type of Skin”.
I actually main the 9cd moon mask too 🤭 first season I could actually participate in too and the mask is the one I keep going back too. (Might equally main Anubis if I had that though 😅 I’m a big mythology lover)
:OOOO THAT WOULD BE PERFECT
Oh right, that's not a beta topic at least so far but I've been hoping maybe she'll bring a new item from one of her newer songs when she comes back. ^_^
YOO I main that one too, it's so pretty (and adds more to my fit colours too!)
I agree I'm also a big mythology nerd and that's why I'm associating the Radiance ult mask as the Hathor goddess
If what really attracted you to the hairstyle was the antennas, then you have the bunny hair from Alice. But honestly, I just love the clean look, v shaped bangs and blue tint. Not to mention the ponytail actually flows in the wind a bit
Yes! I low key want to have an oc couple that mains Anubis and Hathor masks (but aren’t actually those mythical characters instead they’re completely different mythical people lol)
I have the bunny hair too! I really like it but I keep coming back to my fav hunter hair and now snake hair 🤭
i like the antennae but the bunny hair is so flat to my skykids head and so it looks weird to me (i have the same issue with moomin hair)
Ngl this makes me excited for the new nature hair, it has the antennae look to it
oops no longer season chat 
Oh yea, they made it flatter to accommodate the hats. You’re not imagining it, the shape of the head with the hair just looks smaller. which looks really weird if you were to try to wear the moomin ears head band thing
i really like fluffy hairstyles and it hurts bc there's no fluffy short hairstyles (and by short i mean like baffled botanist short) (baffled botanist is the shortest fluffy style and im kinda sad i can't stick a short ponytail on it lol)
I wonder if I can get more candles this doot
Oh there we go again with bubba and the candles (
)
Personally, I am super tired of seeing rhythm pants. I can’t even wear them anymore because of how many times I see them 
I did not get more candles :(
Personally I don’t care how popular an item is or isn’t I care if I like it personally. Most of the popular items on my wishlist are there because I like them not because of anyone else
Me too. Especially that I played during rhythm and I saw them everyday for a year
Does TGC ever ask why people want certain items back? I feel like it would help them understand what people found appealing about those items. All these questions cause of that quest I swear
Anyway what’s new in the doot
Lotsss, new quest, new cosmetics, bunch of new stuff
no candles that's for sure :(
Candles been patched? 
Oh very much this!
New cosmetics in the recent doot too?
This! I don’t like the rhythm ult for antennas. I have my own reasons for liking them and since what I found appealing about them ISN’T there in anything else, I don’t have an alternative for that.
Literally, don’t even like the performance ult.
okay you know what's funny about quest three, the fact that it's all "perhaps the bird would like to see you perform together" and apparently it does not because it steals our costumes after 
Never liked the idea of fomo honestly. So I’m for past ults returning because no fomo and because everyone should be allowed to like the things the like no matter what. I would love Anubis, sanc handpan, and prince rose not because their popular but because of my own interests and style
I will gladly give you mine cause I haven’t touched the rose ever since the season ended, didn’t touch the Anubis mask EVER even after getting it.
omg dude same
esp as a moth that was the only pants anyone was wearing ever because of the TS at the time and then eventually I got sick of it to swear off wearing them ever again
not even the dyes could save them
this update also doesn't let us steal anubis mask and owl hair 💔
Yup but it does rekindle all my frustration about them
Is there anything new at all in this update? I'm not seeing anything new apart from the fact that the Nature Guide now teleports me above the cliff but if I don't react in time I'll fall off the cliff.
I'm moreso looking for new seasonal stuff.
#beta-screenshots-videos message
I'm obsessed with this cape oushsj so jiggly
I don't think the point of the quests ending sadly is that we rudely grabbed the bird out of the sky with our grubby child hands and angered it but it kinda feels that way in the moment lol.

"me angy me not the birb you're looking for"
Also is it just me or the text on black screen reminds me of the early 1900s silent films 
idk why but this season has me nerding over shdkghkdig
Omg yes I was trying to figure out how to put that in feedback before cause it reminds me of silent movies where they put the text screens in 
Yeah it's the silent movie black text screens 
where's the grainy image noises for additional effect 
Looking at the cosmetics, they give me a vibe of early 1900s interpretations of fantasy / medieval outfits which I really love. Like folks back them really like to go over the top with the details
Gotta feedback that it's gonna be PERFECT
live: my screen has specks everywhere. iS tHiS a BuG
/gestures/ time to learn the history of films
Don’t forget that we also ended up eating grandma’s light cookies, so we definitely have sticky hands too
Hello my fellow beta testers! Is the only emote in the seasonal constellation the shocked/hand covering mouth emote for everyone?
The call and the coughing are not in the constellation yet but I'm not sure if that's just a me thing or for everyone
Yeah I also just see that one
I wish there was a feathery dress,,
I'm really having a hard time catching the bluebird, any tips?
Best to feedback about your experience :"D this way devs can improve the catching the bird mechanic
Wax in first quest still and gives you a lot of candles
but it seems the seasonal wax didn't work this time, so that's a good thing I think!
#beta-screenshots-videos message
Oww the call is now too high pitched imo. Hurts my ears 😵
(I gave feedback of it)
The previous sound was better, even tho it was kinda too high to begin with
Hello beta chat!! Favorite cosmetic from the past update?
Yea I feel the same, the original one was so pretty! The new one actively makes me not want to use it
Ult cape 
I love colored trails so a cape that has that hits the spot for me
the new manta hair! ive been needing new yellow cosmetics for my looks
The manta hair 
Don't fight the current behind the birb. If you fly up after it, you'll feel a pull, go with it. When you hit a straight shot flap to get closer. It only takes a few times and the hand 🖐 will appear. Tap that, and hug the birb. 🐦
the sparkly blue head accessory is stunning 
anyone else bothered that the blue face accessory clips badly with the Radiance mask? like.. of all the ult masks that’s the one with which it clips the worst, which is kinda ironic as Radiance immediately precedes the one being tested now.
It clips with a lot of hairstyles too but well I guess it's tricky to make an "universal" design that doesn't clip as badly with specific items that has specific designs without sacrificing a lot of the appeal itself
Thanks!
Aside from that, the clipping also produce interesting shapes too
I guess the accessory is designed for flat masks in mind. I just don't wish the design to be changed drastically just because of clipping with one specific thing at all
One solution could be that the accessory is "moved" forward when using radiance mask
feel like moving it a bit forward and a bit more downwards might do the trick..
accessory clipping is a larger problem that invalidates so many combinations.. I wish we had some control over the positioning of accessories..
something like that would require extra coding and planning to save more than 1 positional preset for 1 cosmetic, and like dye slots, it'd be heavy for game optimisation as well
agreed! this is my problem with most mask accessories cause they're so dependent on what mask you wear
most stuff clips through themselves i judt made it a game to see what matches cooler
though id love a positioning/resizing feature i am NOT gonna lie
hopefully that'll be a thing. Might be useful in future
i don't mind clipping 80% of the time bc like its gonna be unavoidable on some things, but the blue winged mask accessory is pretty bad about clipping on a LOT of different things (that's where i draw the 20% line lmao)
like it doesn't look bad regardless, but there's gotta be some way to make it clip on at least a small amount less hairstyles than it currently does
probably just astral project it further out from the face
most likely
I just wish the diamond part of it stayed centered on the face better. Sometimes it looks really off, especially with masks that have a centered detail near it, which is many of them. ^_^;
The issue is that it follows the positioning of the base game masks or masks that have the diamond feature affixed on them, so it's better if the diamond is removed at least imo xD
noooo not my diamond 
Ah, well I like the diamond but only if it stays where it belongs. 
sentient diamond just wants to explore 
the diamond is too stubborn to not stick with what the base game masks have
I hope they make the honk lower pitched, it sounds so squeaky right now
I actually loveeee the diamond, I don’t think it should be too far fetched to say they could separate the diamond and the feather thingies
true it hurts my ears @_@ i dont think ill survive it if it comes to live that way
Pleaseee send feedback!

ngl ik it's beta and everything is subject to change but like... i'm worried this season will suffer from the season of flight syndrome where it's a bird season with NO bird masks 
Same. I gave feedback about it yesterday. It's unnaturally high pitched and hurts my ears so much 😵
Not me forgetting that the beta season had a birb but it never made it to live but the emojis made it to the server
I’m SO SAD that we were never able to experience the WONDERFUL rhythm ending cutscene…. Crimes!!!
true, but if they keep up this trend of remixing the first four seasons, perhaps we will see the elder bird from that cutscene in a new context 
Omgggg they updated portal home, it now has jellyfish!
Am I seeing things or did the ult cape changed slightly, like the back part is a tiny bit more pointy, to match with the v thing at the back
i just realized grandpa's and grandma's cape matches in a way that is has the triangle thingy at the back 
They're indeed counterparts

aaaaa give the ult cape more shape please
aaaaaaa (personally I like the simple shape, it feels homely
)
Giving it drastic and aggressive shapes wouldn't do it well imo, the hidden bird flock and the simplicity really works well with the main theme of the og play / story. That's why I'm very fond of it
Personally as a designer myself, sometimes less is more. Giving things literal forms simply just because of the "title" of the media wouldn't work and feels like a very easy cop out rather than thinking deeply into the theme and how to convey it into the design effectively
that's to say I'm very irky when ppl say it's a lazy design. Every design has purpose and I know every designer thought deeply about the themes and how to realise them into an actual thing, that's just my feeling as an artist and concept artist student/ graduate
I don't really see the difference 
Maybe I may be seeing things but comparing to potato beta log #beta-screenshots-videos message
The bottom edge on the backside is tiny bit more angular or maybe it's just my eyes 😭 let me in betaaaaa
it does look like it points down more but that could just be the camera angles
Yeah that's why I'm hesitant if it's true or it's just my eyes being fooled
tgcccc let me in beta so we can observe and break the game for science
this is a really random question but have you guys seen the new seasonal area yet?
Here Anvita! #beta-screenshots-videos message
it's a little hub area and then we go to different places in sky for the quests.
it's in Hidden Forest if you wanted to know 
ooo thank you!!! im so excited to experience my first season that doesnt take place in vault or aviary 
still manifesting a birb mask 🙏
season igc....
I have a cape edit idea (for blue feather underside one) but I'm not sure if it's worth it to even edit it
Will there be any new features coming with the upcoming season?
i didn't know you're a designer
but i agree, simple isn't always bad and i think it works super nicely with these capes
my only real "gripe" (if you can call it that) is that i wish the feathers were fuller on the underside of the bluebird cape, either by filling out the current feathers a bit more or by rounding them but i would prefer rounding so they can fully hide under the cape bc i think them not being visible from any angle really helps with the cape, and MAYBE have it be a little long on chibi avatars bc i love capes that are large on chibi/short avatars and average on taller avatars (namely the crow cape does this for reference on what i mean)
Yeah!! I think if they're rounded it would be easily hidden. What I think is something like the feathers on the sparrow iap cap neck line. Maybe not that small but rounded and like..oval-shaped
yyesssss and tbh my favorite thing about the cape is how hard the feathers are to see until you fly, and i think that especially enhances having the feather fallong effect too 
Yep the feather falling effect is such a nice one, it's like you reveal what you are when you're about to fly
definitely wouldn't be implemented but itd be so cute if emotes where the cape opens or moves drastically also had a small feather falling effect like flying does 
/or i doubt it would be implemented bc it would have to. coding. lmao it would probably be difficult to only have it do so on specific emotes
That would be so cool too 
ouhh it would be cool too if the starry cape had like. stars shed from it too (ik we have the light shed when we flap so it probably wouldn't be much different but still cool to think about)
But yeah since we fly most of time I think we still keep seeing the effect anyways
im very interested in how the feathers being shed as an effect will have things go in the future, i doubt it'll be the last cape to do something like this 
Yeah now we have smth like rainbow effect from thr DoC mask, I wonder if there'll be more in plans
ikrr its very cool
Grandma should bring back the bonfire again in this season...
By the way, does anyone have an owl hairstyle in beta?
no
It’s definitely not a lazy design. And there’s beauty in simplicity too 
That said I do want them to go a bit superfluous on this just because it’s an opportunity to depict something fun and feathery!
I have questions about the feather trail, I think it's absolutely wonderful, but my brain can't fathom the logistics 
I know it's a game where children can fly so like, all laws of everything is already out the window, but how do we trail feathers from a feather cape and there are no bald spots on said cape from all the feathers we trail? Where do the feathers come from if not the cape itself? Do we have a bag of infinite feather confetti stored somewhere? 
✨️magic✨️
✨ YES✨
considering how our skids store hundreds of candles and magically make them appear makes me feel like feather confetti isnt too far fetched
These are a figment of our imagination
especially considering a majority of sky fits do not have any pockets at all so truly where do they come from, how does the skid pull out the candle every time
are the blue feathers also an easy cop out then
idk the current shape of the cape with those bright blue feathers underneath just looks awkward to me, they look out of place. you can slightly adjust the shape without changing it too much, just so that the feathers look more fitting
Same, the cape itself feels like an upside down rug

Yeah 😭
I feel like the grayish color of the cape already adds a lot of simplicity
after sleeping on it a bit and using the dyed look, the cape is okay
but the underside is still weird yeah
It reminds me of the fur coats that have the fur inside, which feels like a very grandma thing
yeah the combination of the feathers and the shape is the only thing I don't really like about this cape
feathers on the entire underside of the cape without an even just vaguely wing-like cape shape just looks weird to me. like a very cheap crafting material or a rug 😭 and you can achieve a sliiightly more wing-like shape without making big changes
Yeah that! Also evokes the modest feeling the grandmas tend to have
with bright blue feathers?? 😭
Idc I think it fits the theme of the story nicely. I'm thinking the feather shape need to be slightly improved but overall I think it's a beautiful cape anyways
It's also a nice call back to original grandma cape which segues well to the ultimate conclusion of the og story.
Also yeah the fact that grandma doesn't have the wing accessory thing (yet), maybe it's meant to be hidden until the finale 
I don’t get what I am supposed to do. I collected the mantas and rescued them from the darkness. But nothing happens after that
Wrong chat btw #beta-discussion
i think the bright blue feathers are perfectly fine, bc things don't need to match to look nice together and the blue with the silvers and neutral colors is very nice of a contrast
Yeah! Also blue and silver are categorised as cool colours so it's fitting too
if anything, i can see adding a sliight orange hue to the outside of the cape since blue and orange look pretty nice together (but nit making the cape a solid orange, just a tiny hue shift if anything to keep it more neutral) but thats really it aside from making the feathers more hidden/rounder imo
slight beige or orange hue too (tho in darker lighting the cape exterior is a bit warm ish, thanks to player's core light)
ues 
Kinda like a paper lantern effect 
yeees that sounds very cool for a cape actually
i don't mind the colors at all its literally just the shape 😭
even just making the feathers different lengths would help
i have yet to see if this tone i've taken to calling "placeholder pink" can be achieved with dyes yet
#beta-screenshots-videos message
I just don’t like the feathers only being on the inside.. it literally looks like a rug
a wild thing for a literal grandma to wear, I suppose
idk i love the feathers being on the inside, the most rug-like cape was the bear fur ult and nothing will ever look more like a rug to me than that 😭😭
i think the feathers being on the inside gives it a kinda unassuming look? ive seen others describe it as something like "the inside being what matters" and idk i just really like the symbolism begind it as it is and really hope they don't change it
we already have multiple bird capes and the crow cape with outer feathers, this one is surprisingly unique in its design despite its simplicity
honestly big agree here 
i also find it insanely funny bc im like #1 bird cape enjoyer and i own every birdlike cape i can think of in the game but i just don't want the bluebird cape to be a bird cape
if i were to want any cape to be birdlike it'd honestly be the crescent cape
i think its very cool that the cape as is has bird theming but isn't just. a cape that looks like a blue bird
i honestly don't see the blue bird cape needing to be bird shaped honestly, i wanna say it does not fit grandma as a character, and with her aesthetics imo
i mean i can see a bird shaped cape still matching her theming if done right, but even if it were done right i think id just like it less if it were bird shaped than i like the current version of the cape
can you imagine how cozy the feathers must feel like when you're wearing it
ikrrr it must be so warm and soft and cozy
i do hope they add a bird mask though, honestly would fit the season imo 
that would be very cute, a black-beaked mask would be very nice methinks
i would love something like the spinning mentor / dreams ult mask coloring or something like a rhythm masks look-a-like
, it'd fit in the season of silvers/golds imo
true! i was thinking a black beaked mask since bluebirds oft have black or dark gray beaks on them and we don't really have many black beaked masks... but its also the perfect opportunity to get a silver beaked mask 
also also, this season NEEDS a music sheet!
💯 it's completely something new and conceptually unique. I'm all for it
OH GOSH I would die for a new music sheet ‼️
yessss honestly a big reason why i really hope it doesn't actually get a major shape change, i think i'd be okay with very minor changes to its shape but even in regards to shape design it's still unique; i personally think that, just because the season is called season of bluebird doesn't mean it needs anything bird shaped in the capes, we already have a lot of (decent amount of) birdlike capes and we likely will continue to get them in the future as well so im all for this cape having bird features and not being a bird cape
plus if im being honest if its gonna drastically change shape i hope it just gets longer lol 😭 long cape...
not touching the ground long, but crow cape long
I really hope they won't change it too much either, like it is a perfect fit with the concept of the story atp. I mean I guess the designers knew what they're doing and have done so with the careful study of the book's philosophy and themes so I doubt they would drastically change if at all, since otherwise it just wouldn't work with the theme overall. Since guides and ults oftentimes summarise the entire season's theme
Perhaps we should feedback about it, appreciating the unique execution of the concept into the ult cape so the designers feel validated for their decision on the design 
i agree and very much so hope it doesn't get changed much, i feel like making it bird shaped would kinda take away from the feathers being hidden too (and yea ive already feedbacked twice but like what's one more about it
)
And the fact that grandma doesn't have the wing accessory thing atm makes me feel the true identity of blue bird remains hidden, until, maybe, the finale
YEAH since the story straight up called the guide the child's grandma, thus not trying to give away who she is
im still an avid believer in the cape getting rounded/oval-shaped feathers over oblong ones to hide them better 
plus with rounded feathers you can fill the inside better without having them stick out /on the underside, visible with the cape closed
Yessss rounded tips, to make them very well hidden especially in casual perspectives
like honestly my favorite thing about this cape is how difficult it is to see the feathers until it opens, i was very incredibly shocked and happy to see them the first time and i immediately fell in love with how they implemented it on the cape
its like finding a rock on the road and holding it up to the light and seeing a glint of quartz underneath the rough
i like rocks and the analogy works.....
Yeah! It's not immediately obvious especially when you're just looking at the skykid in a normal stance, it's very well concealed
yeeess and tbh, the longer i play the more i appreciate simple capes tbh 
I think the lack of edge gaps really helped with the illusion. If there are gaps (to make them more bird like), it'd be immediately obvious
Lemme feedback about how clever it is to make the cape edges continous to perfectise the illusion
yeag thats a good reason to not drastically change the shape as well, there's something so nice about just how it is right now; and to make it wing shaped, while i love wing shaped capes, i can't see it looking as nice or thematically working as well or even having as big an impact for interpretation
plus i like the tapered edges a lot and to make it a winged cape might require removing the silver tapering 
buut if you really think about it its pretty moth-core... thats still wing shaped......
Yeah,,, the silver tapering makes it feel so unique. And feels soft (if you mean the curved edges on the front)
yeag, and the edges of the cape being not solid and almost feathered... its so nice 
and it's silver too, a rarity
all in all, the design and details work very well
though if i were to want anything changed on the shape now that i consider it, perhaps round the shoulder of the cape to give it a softer silhouette (while still keeping the trim and some shoulder seperation from the cape)
yea! i do like the shoulder pad design in general, but for the ult(?) cape i feel it gives it too sharp of an appearance when its mostly a soft and rounded design, it looks a little jagged compared to the rest to me and is a tiny bit jarring; the overall feel and design of the cape just fail to make me understand what a sharpened shoulder silhouette achieves that a soft one wouldn't
i think a sharp shoulder pad would work great with the crescent cape, but the feathered cape just doesn't strike me as one that needs and sharpness to it at all considering not only its unassuming appearance and coloration, but the plumage being very soft and inviting as they're lined on the inside of the cape as if to help keep you warm while also being an absolutely stunning contrast to the neutrality of the outside of the cape
but the silhouette imo doesn't really. benefit from having points or edges, its not a contrast that i think works well for the cape overall, and while i do adore the cape as it is bc its just amazing i think it would greatly benefit it for that very simple change
ough text wall hi 💀 i didn't realize i typed that much
Gdjfj its OK!! I totally get your point!
I think having a rounded vs pointy shoulder pads between grandma and grandpa would provide both good contrast as well as the sense of counterpart between them
Perhaps have the shoulder pads not like, triangular, but rounded, think of a piece pringle lmaoooo that's the best analogy I can think of 😭
lmaoo i was thinking more just slanted, not necessarily round but not triangular either; an angle if you will
that way it still sticks out and helps the silhouette, just without being as pointed or noticeable; more subtle, helping the overall subtlety of the cape but still having a nice little flair to it to have a bit of distinction if that makes sense? like you can tell its special but you just arent quite sure how yet?
guhhh what shape would be most applicable for an angled design that im thinking about 
Maybe drawing over it might help 
maybe more trapezoid-like or pentagon-like on the edge kinda angle? i would draw it but im lazy rn i will later if i remember 😭😭
Set an alarm /j
lmaoo true ... but i already have like 70 alarms on my phone 💀💀
/whats one more alarm then.....
like. still sticks out shaped but is a soft sticks out shape
my ability to explain stuff leaving my body the second it turns 5:30am
or alternatively, simply shorten how much the spiky shoulder sticks out and pull it closer to the neck to allow a still pointy silhouette but make it. less angry pointy
i think i will try to sleep now it is nearly. 6am and i haven't slept at all tn 💔
Pls sleep omg also I like your shoulder pad idea! Also would be nice if you credit cy for the images 
ouhh i knew i was forgetting something in gonna do that before i sleep
(Idk if this is the correct group that I should tell this, pls tell me or need to delete it
)
Just here telling my thought of the new season:
Welp, I was thinking why this collab season's clothes and accesories can be able to dye, it's because there's no movie of this novel was released. But well, after this, I did some research, there's one movie, but it is black and white. So maybe that's why there's no correct design on the characters.
Or maybe I could be wrong, pls tell me
Yeah essentially blue bird is completely public domain, there isn't a major adaption to it that may still have existing copyrights. Plus the original only had the textual content
i already mentioned this yesterday but again, i'm worried this season is gonna pull a season of flight and be a bird season with no bird masks. i get in lore bird masks are reserved for performers but COME ON 
I mean, we could have one with a spirit that's a performer at least... Wasn't there that one quest where you wear a costume, already?
stage performers are still performers 
and from my understanding, this season is something like a stage play
But it doesn't mean they have to wear the bird masks either, the characters they're portraying are never associated with the "blue bird", since blue bird in the original play is never an entire character, but a "metaphor"
i've just been singing birdhouse in your soul to myself for the duration of the season so far 🙂
blugh i'm just desperate for more bird masks we haven't had any in ages 
Yes, even if it’s a metaphor I think it’s understandable for people to hope for bird masks in a season called blue bird where there are also a lot of other cosmetics with feather and bird designs on them 
A bird mask wouldn't make much sense on any of the characters imo, this is probably why they're using subtle designs and feather motives instead
a maskless mask with feathers on the face or something smile
ouhh.... a maskless style mask that instead of face paint has actual feathers growing near the eyes perhaps.......
/lil tiny itty bitty feathers yk like how some harpies and stuff are drawn to have feathers grow by their eyes yk yk
is anyone else missing the emotes still? I'm not bothered as I'm sure they'll be in the spirit trees soon but I was wondering if anyone else was having this issue
Exactly, adding any obvious bird masks to these spirits - who are portraying different characters and which are completely unrelated to the blue bird, since they're ones who /are helping the child to look for the bluebird/- would destroy the point of what the blue bird is actually representing in the story
So I'm saying the chances of a bird mask is low for this season tbh
In my frank opinion, wanting things to be more obviously bird like when all these cosmetics have been carefully designed to fit into the story as well as the philosophy about the "happiness" makes me annoyed. Like just because it's titled blue bird, then there should be straight up bird cosmetics...when it is never all about the physical blue bird to begin with. I guess it is what it is when the story is obscure enough still, it won't hurt to do some research , as what I did xD
Such mask doesn't exist in beta like at all, probably hack or leak or fabricated, so pls delete your comment
But anyway, it would be cool to have a bird mask.
idk if you go strictly by that logic then there also shouldn't be any feathers or birds on the cape
I was saying "obvious". Like Poison already said, they went with subtlety
The bird pattern is only visible when you dye the cape as well
Bird mask with feathers on the sides would be so cool! 
Wait, I'm gonna draw that
subtle bird mask 🤲
I understand what you mean by subtlety for the feather cape since they're only on the underside of the cape but at the same time it's so funny to me since they're this bright glowing blue color and I drop 500 feathers wherever I go 😭
Idk the illusion works just as well bc when you're simply standing or running it's still closed, until you flap and fly it reveals the illusion
Which reminds me of some butterflies or bird species that only reveals the brightly coloured patterns on the wings during flight
igc bird mask in the guide tree so that none of the spirits wear it 
We grab the bird with our grubby child hands again and it coughs up a mask to distract us while it flies away. 
i agree tbh, i do think a bird mask would be cute (blue and silver/black one) but idk if this is the season for a bird mask which was why i went to the idea of feathers around the edges of the skykids eyes instead bc that would be cute
still not super "oh look its a bird" but is also i think something that could look cute
boogie kid BECOMES the blue bird theory /j
Normal moth mask but there’s blue bird feathers on the under side

yk what i want i want more masks that have the eye but the eye is half closed to make a crescent shape but still glowy like eyes are on masks (like the one eye on the dark plant mask from shattering) i think a mask with that eye shape could work for the season
YEAHHHH that one!! I like the idea of a mask with feathers on the cheeks with the half closed eyes 
Or maybe...similar style as DoC face paint mask but with feather patterns or bird wings on the face
not sure tbh
What if we had like idk
A blue dreams mask but like masquerade style
THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYINGG
#beta-screenshots-videos message oh this will clip a LOT
ehh i would like something similar but idk if this is the season for it tbh
Someone looked somewhere 
Huh
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Yeah that’s fair 
maybe they should pull a rhythm/performance for it 🙏
I am indeed intrigued by the idea that they may use rhythm spirits for a future season since they didn't have quests as well
Hello! Is the galaxy cape with the crescent moons currently free or season pass?
I don't think that's known - beta got all season items in one big IAP bundle (they won't remain that way, it's just how beta gets things).
there is no mask afaik, unless you mean days of colour/nature? those are flat masks though
or the feather accessory thing
Oh the bluebird mask
There is no mask like that in beta for the season. You may have seen illegally obtained info.
theres no mask in beta, what you saw is likely hacked or edited 
its easy for people to lie on social media and say stuff is in beta, the best way to check if its actually in beta is if you see it in #beta-screenshots-videos (and hacked stuff isnt allowed in this server so best to edit out/delete the info
)
Search up Potato Beta Log in the #beta-screenshots-videos
for the latest update on the items available in beta :D cy is always up to date
Also yes pls delete the mention of the mask to avoid misinfo
Will do
As well, you may report what you saw and the op to TGC Stellify (directly via their DM) for hacked item and outright misinformation
Yay thank you!
Shame the false info item was very pretty ;-;
it's ok just never trust anything outside beta aside from reliable ones like Nastymold etc
Guys, is the Lil prince event cancelled for days of bloom? I heard it somewhere
nothing is confirmed to be cancelled until tgc says so
So it’s still coming right?
beta doesnt know, itll be in #news if/when it is (and for event stuff #beta-discussion, this is the seasonal channel)
Hii is the ult cosmetic alrdy in the beta? I'm to lazy to open it and check it
we don't know any of the ults yet
reverse rug cape is on gramma atm tho
Good nickname for the new cape!
nooooo please don't call the cape that 😭
Ultimate Reverse Rug Cape of the Blue Bird, hmm i like it
rug geode
Me neitherrr 😭😭😭
Bird rug cape 🙏
Where should the bug be reported?
Any of the bug report channels, instructions at the bottom of them. For example #beta-bugs-android
okay then cat hair scrubber, there ya go
ya know those fur scrubber gloves people have been using lately? that
As someone who has one, yes
why did I think of exfoliating gloves
Bro when ios get test again?
@primal cloak I take it as lengthening the feathers would mean the feathers would poke out of the edges more. Currently it's pretty much kinda easily visible when looking at an angle (even shallow angles), bc these are very close to the edges currently xD
I guess there's a reason I'm not an artist XD I didn't even notice that they're very close to the edge.
But, if I put half as many feathers on the bottom half, but the feathers are twice as long, then the total thing shouldn't get longer at least...
maybe that could work :o a slight variation to feather length and size (as long as they're within the perimeter) could help as well
Yeaaa.. it’s just that the design could have had some of these feathers outside of the cape too. By clumping them all on the inside it just looks like the underside of a carpet
some just some feathers on the outside would break that illusion
Yep having feathers visible outside breaks the illusion anyways
cani ping u in scs with a drawing of what i mean grey
Ooh I’d love to see that too
Also, no carpets' undersides aren't like that. You mean flipped out (I would say the same to Passage ult, Dismiss cape and Yoga's cape lol)
Yup haha 😂 but passage ult looked fine and didn’t feel weird either
Right by that logic I don't personally see an issue even if it looks like something. Guru's cape feels most carpet-y
Ohhh I love that @pseudo adder ! It reminds me of the smaller birds of paradise wing shape
im not the most learned about birds but thank u :3 its a piggyback of other's requests of it being more bird-like.
@pseudo adder Nice edit!
Also the way yall can't unsee cy's commentary about what they look like 
Dw it looks like the bird's wing anatomy
ooo limi ya know
as someone who made so many comparison drawings over the mischief cape 😂 my personal win was the fact they made an effort to make the tail feathers more distinguishable
proper feather formation might've been difficult
cy just got a name for it but the issue with like, uniform feather length being ugly and inaccurate SINCE MISCHIEF YES OMG I LOVED ALL UR EDITS
You mean the raven cape?
and ultimately I think the end result of raven cape was more of a like
identifiable silhouette > accurate feather placement
ye
passage ult looks weird to me lol i don't really like the solid fur cape design 😭😭 it actually looks like a carpet to me. my skykid is wearing a carpet. a plush fur carpet...
Nah to me the sunlight towel capes are the worst lol
i don't like their physics that much but i don't like the physics or design of the passage ult 😭😭 it jiggles so weirdly and it feels weird to me lolll
I don't wear the passage ult cape at all personally, it's just hard to match it with anything
imo they could like make a quilted kind of texture for the longer feathers and just not have them individually sway?? like i know NOTHING admittedly but it cant be harder than the effort theyve already put into it imo. like i would rather hve the feathers proportional and a tiny bit more "static" looking because of the shortcuts they did to make it vs shag carpet era
It's a bit funny when ppl comment about how carpety the new ult when by comparison passage ult feels most carpety
passage ult is THE carpet cape 😔
Honestly, I like this ult better than the mischief crow cape. I was not a fan of that one
its cute though passage cape isnt meant to be birdlike unlike the Blue Bird Cape.
nah I'm comparing about the comments of it being carpet-y
tbh I look at this situation more like
ultimately I'm never going to always like how they handle feathers on things because it's a big hit and miss for me
it either feels extremely off or looks right, and most of the time it just feels wrong to me 
and im noting that expectations of visuals will cause different comments overall despite visual similarity
i mean the blue bird cape isn't necessarily birdlike, it simply has bird feathers/motifs and i don't think it should be birdlike either; just bc its "the bluebird cape" doesn't mean it has to be a literal bluebird, since the bluebird in the story is a metaphor for happiness especially iirc
Exactly
bird feathers that dont look right though
There's a clear intentional design choice with this, like how tgc made the edges continous to hide the illusion
we can have both arguments
it's just fun to think about
bird feathers that dont look like bird-anything
thinking about that anniversary feather boa that's spell locked
Doubt it's made of feather, it feels like it's made of party popper paper thingy. They're very squared
Well tbh, I'm not a fan of this cape either (assuming it's an ult). I'd probably have to look at it more to decide what I dislike exactly but eh 
i mean yea they look a lil wonky rn loll i agree, i think they should be rounded but i don't think they should be on the outside at all or very visible from a closed cape perspective
I think this cape uses the feather tech the best way, like it doesn't look messy (or easily glitchy like the raven cape)
And it perfectly is an unique concept when you consider the story theme. Personally I just don't wish any drastic changes aside from minor adjustment to feathers
AHA I FOUND WHAT THE CAPE REMINDED ME OF
you know abalone clams and they have that weird squiggly part of the body
that's what it feels like looking at the cape and seeing the squiggly blue feather fingers underneath
Cy can you pls stop with the cursed comparisons. It feels like you're trying to make the cape look worse and it's not funny to me, not anymore 😭
😭😭😭
i see your point but imo the "not exactly bluebird cape" vibe is already fulfilled considering the outside is a completely different visual. the inside of the cape being "maybe the blue bird is the happiness we found along the way" is GOOD storytelling.
HOWEVER at the moment it doesnt scream 'maybe the blue bird...' its more 'maybe the sea anemone...'
like im not arguing give us sparrow cape dyed blue. im NOT saying i want the feathers to peek out of the cape (that would ruin its visual storytelling) im js saying the INSIDE doesnt properly communicate visually because of the weird uniform feather length
forgive me i actually havent paid attention to any of the seasonal quests bc im not in beta myself so i may be fudging the actual story's notes
I will say the party collar thing from anniversary look more like children's blue tissue paper craft lol 
Grab your best outfit and let’s go to the party!
that too but thats a party accessory meant for silly parties not a somber emotional cape
I'm not in beta but you can easily look up the Blue Bird story synopsis
And? Your comparison doesn't hold up bc it doesn't look like blue tissues lol. They look obviously feathers at a first glance
thats your opinion 
ohhh i get what you mean, srry it was worded weirdly to me so i misunderstood it i think, but i agree (thus why i said like. rounded feathers so it doesn't look weird on the inside with feathers poking out every which way) but i personally don't think it looks as bad as a childrens paper craft(?) or anything, it could just use a little editing really
I agree with making them look properly feathers but I just dont see the sudden comparison between the blue collar texture...like where did that come from
Like comparing apples to oranges, even if they're both fruits the same xD so I just don't get it
i was just throwing comparisons out there tbf. i could edit it to say it looks more sea anemone than paper craft but my main message is the same
Sea anemone is cute tbh xP
tbh i personally don't think the feathers are that obviously feathers, if I saw this cape without knowing that its from a season called "season of the blue bird" then I would've thought it's some weird clumpy fur texture at first glance. the shape could use some work imo
idk why you guys are so hung up on the feather boa thing it was just an offhand comment that wasn't wholly related to the current conversation on the blue bird ult cape lol
true but its just not on brand for this season x3
I was pointing out that you referred them as feathers...while making comparison with many different things about the cape
I didn't make that many comparisons though, at least not in this current conversation
it really is like [insert blue comparison], like it could be any comparison but imo its not relevant to my point nor does it detract from it
That's true, but I've seen it being compared: rug, exfoliator the cat fur brush mitten things and finally the abalone 
yep just a neutral offhand comment that wasn't related 
idk me making random observations is completely unrelated to the current discussion you guys are having
I'm just enjoying myself here
I'm just confused about it being brought up when talking about feathers, and the collar being referred as feathers stood out to me, bc I don't think these look like feathers at all 
also tbh if you don't like my comparisons then you're welcome to block/ignore me
and as I have repeatedly stated, it was an offhand neutral comment unrelated to the main discussion
if you don't think they look like feathers then good for you
Yeah I understand it now, apologies.
In my honest opinion I feel this cape doesn't look like a carpet like at all, I will say the sunlight capes have it the worst design wise. They look like actual bathroom rugs instead of proper towels 
Ayo new season items 
(Cy i know you dont wanna be pinged but the name for the frilly mantle of an abalone is the lobed epipodium if you really wanna deploy some cursed descriptions)
#beta-screenshots-videos message it looks like a peacock to me
wowie a bird mask....who wouldve thunk 
HNSBFHNJFBGMSF FINALLY A BIRB MASK AFTER SO LONG I SWEAR IF IT WINDS UP BEING AN ULT I'M GONNA CRY
thank you for biological information I appreciate this ammo 
Sorry if it's unrelated to what you guys are discussing here? I was wondering how to get rid of the beta ping role, I don't have beta and thus don't want to be pinged anymore (I got it a long time ago)
Through here in the reactions! #beta-faq message
Thanks a lot! 
MUSIC SHEET LETSGOOOOOO
finally a bird mask
Ooo dailies for the season. Interesting that I don't have sparkler parent though
maybe because I don't have the base spirit relived??
i checked the season guide and even though it's a wip icon... they have the mask... it's an ult at the moment... FBHJDADFBJSFS I KNEW IT WAS TOO GOOD TO BE FREE 
OH NY GOD A TREE BRANCH PROP YOU CAN SIT IN
Finally bird dreams came true in our nest
Wait that's a perfect balcony prop
Could also be one of the head feathers...
That bird mask was real all along? :0 I didn't just dream it, what 😂
(I must have seen some leaks then and frogotten it. I thought I had an original idea when I drew the mask idea in #beta-screenshots-videos message lol)
The blue bird mask is so beautiful! Reminds me of a peacock if combined with the head piece
🦚
i mean that's true but knowing tgc, the bird mask's probably gonna be the ult.
Wait...the shape reminds me of the hidden Aviary oob model of bird mask. Has this season or bird concept been there since long ago?
I like the mask accessory thing too.
The tree prop 🥹🥹🥹 LET ME IN LET ME IINNN *sobbing in android *
it's such a slay tbh
Which do you mean? I don't think I've seen that one yet, or at least not noticed it...
3 node spirit tree how pretty it is to see that again
Yk long ago there's an oob of a future mask workshop in aviary, it had the passage masks but it includes a bird like mask
Oh!!
It looks very similar imo I wonder if they finally used the model concept
i think the bird looking like prop might be an igc, looking at the bird guide tree
gramma makes the twirl animation so I think it's that, yeah
which is p dope
why did they give grandma the cough emote but not everyone else an expression 
She's old 
interesting how the black dye is pass locked and white dye isn't
(for now)
I guess the droplet is now literally a dye blessing so people know what they get
it gave me x1 as opposed to the jar which gives straight up x3
today on cy observations 101 😂
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So I went to do the daily, and found a blue bird in the ice rink in valley. I proceeded to get soft locked because I chased it and now I'm stuck flying in circles 
Oh the bird spawned magically behind me and I'm no longer soft locked wowie
definitely getting the pass I think, everything I really like is currently put behind the pass 
Also is the map shrine in the area new? It doesn’t work properly yet but I don’t know if I saw it in a previous build 
Yeah I was gonna mention the map shrine too lol. It's definitely new and definitely doesn't work lol
Oh that's what happened to me
#beta-screenshots-videos message
Eventually the bird kinda just appeared behind me and I could grab it, but I was stuck for a bit 
i love the hairtousle pants and sparkler cape (they're both igc currently), I'd also like the season pass though 
luck be on my side for giveaways pleaseee I wanna save money in case Two Embers goes HARD 😭
100% getting the pass, everything are so good ngl
The cute beetle cape omg 
ooooh that happened to me except I wasn't in a quest at all ... I was just collecting the seasonal candles
buggy blue bird
I also couldn't find the spirits to help them but maybe I didn't look hard enough
Also I can't do the one for sparkle parent but I think it's cuz I need to relive sparkle parent. Which I may have to do later 
I didn't either. I just saw the bird, chased it, got soft locked, caught the bird, and the quest completed
on the map it shows that is in the remembrance area? I didn't even see the bird at all in the ice rink 👀
Ohh remembrance?? I don't have all the map shrines, I thought it was archives
lemme go run and see now
ok so i didn't see the hairtousle teen anywhere but the bird was there and I did the thing to catch it and then it unsoft locked me.
Um repository is orange???? I went to do the other daily???
Oh that's good! I'm gonna bug report the soft locking later cuz that'll be an issue for sure 
i'm in the repository and I know I've completed the quests but it's telling me to see the guide?? and help them find memories I think it's broken
oooh wow... uh yes it's like a sunset
it didn't show a star to go to until I reached the top of the area
Okay so it's not just me with the sudden orang 😭
picking up the feather made it normal again
Yeah same actually. I saw that for me too. I actually thought I didn't finish the quests for a sec 
Hi everyone, it's been a long time since I played Sky Beta, the current season is BlueBird but I can't do question 1, when I catch the bird it shows a black shadow like the trial of fire, can someone please help me.
try going home and starting the quest over.
Where is the location of Task 3?
THE BIRRDD MASK
i did it, thank you very much
v nice to see little price p much makin a rerun
i forgot how long ago that was but it was my first season :]
3 years, 8 months
almost 4 years old for us tlp moths!
i'm not sure to cry about that or not 
We're still here!!! After almost 4 years... Means we found something that really impacted us. 
PTSD from that questline and the sword pants incident 
Where should I go if I wanna help new season's spirits?
the map shrine says the quests are at remembrance map (probably same as previous reset) and forgotten ark.
Map shrine? We can check dailies there? I didn't know that.
How to review the first tasks of the new season in the current version?
I wonder if there's anything about the new seasonal daily* quests? 
Oh there's a map shrine in the season hub now
then...would the wl be sitting on the tree lol
Yes, but it doesn't seem to unlock anything...
finally figured out what the silver ornamental accessory with the blue gem reminds me of - bluetooth headset
Yeah if you wear it with headphones it becomes the mic
I laughed and then realised my skykid is 5 years old this year 😭
omg they're going to kindergarten this year 
she’s going to tell everyone in the playground about elder masks 
#beta-screenshots-videos message
this mask accessory was based on wise grandparent's vault hair accessory he wore during belonging
also yeah it isn't a season about birds, like at all. It's a season based on a play with the same title 
why would they make wise grandparent the BIRD MAN like don't even try and anger me ❌
same tbh the character from the book Grandparent is portraying is not a bird at all. The character is a human in the story
if I'm not wrong, judging from the name, grandpa is "the king of the future"
they wanna keep the essence and the iconic parts of the spirits just like in radiance but this time with a more creative approach
Really curious about what the quest for grandpa is like
I'm super intrigued
stars
something something future divination
There's been a lot of back and forth about whether things should or shouldn't look more birdlike this season, and I think it's worth reminding everyone that opinions are subjective and it's absolutely okay to feel either or about the cosmetics! All that matters is letting tgc know how you feel as you test everything out 
i think the current bird cosmetics are alright as is tbh, i really don't need them to change anything unless it's something about the ults 
It's more like the thought that this season is should be all about birds when it isn't what the Blue Bird play is all about. If we try to convince devs to add or make more bird like, it's fully taking away from the core of story. That's my honest opinion about it that's all xD
need them to add the other emotes to spirits instead of just hairtousle 
Oh yeah where is the cough emote currently put in
guide....
Damn grandma has tbc.......
But I'm curious about the implication of grandma having the cough emote 
just saw that fake 50 dollar gift card 😭
😭 i just only see the channel lit up lol
Anyway tbh to bubba I'm just very passionate about the literature, I really prefer the season respecting the original story theme rather than straying too much from the main focal point of the literature ^^
Bc otherwise, players wouldn't be able to appreciate the original story at all and instead refer it as mere entertainment
That's why I loved Moomin quests, it has deep and profound themes. Even if not a lot of people enjoy the season, I'm glad that they picked this one story about childhood trauma themes which. Is something important in today's overly diluted state of digital media.
And now I'm glad that they're bringing back the old and even obscure classic literatures to be appreciated by today's generation, especially how this one has a very important message too 
ANOTHER ONE???
i don't want to chase after a bird everyday for a candle 
HUH WDYM
another fake 50 dollar coupon
Also here's me: ah yes time to put my flight skills to test
the light orb chase daily is already boring now so I hope it'll refresh my brain
Grey, you don't understand. This is like citadel cop chase for manta whisperer but the bird is flying at Mach 5 speed 
People already have been complaining about the Days of Treasure daily, I’m sure they’d complain if they have to chase a bird for 77 days straight 😭
Special dailies that repeat for a week or 2 isn't great already, can't imagine for an entire season 😭
Having it thrown into the usual mix would be nice though.
Think it'd be randomly happening but idk 😭
Wait what do the dailies want us to do? I can’t do them 
already mentioned this in feedback, but I hope the new dailies won't force us to keep up with the seasonal quests as they come out
this season is story-based, and I prefer to do quests like this in a row, towards the end of the season
wouldn't want to miss out on sc because of it 😔
i still think the blue cape looks like anemone 
- find the blue bird feather at village theatre at the top of one of the roofs, there will be a spotlight to show which roof.
- go to repository, honk for a star and chase after the blue bird

I feel it could be a random seasonal quest
like enchantment and lightseeker quests had been
Really doubt they'd do that for 77 days, it's very much likely they throw the season related dailies into random daily quest mix. Sort of like the enchantment coloured light thing
Especially how they gave us the 2 specific dates to test the new dailies anyways
~~Speaking of that...we haven't seen repeats of the new daily quests with the spirits in live huh 
Would love to catapult cannoneer again
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now that we got a ton of new dailies, hope they will be used again instead of "forge 1 candle" or "Get 30 light"
Yeah! And with the new blue bird dailies, I'd prefer those new ones than the good ol repeats 
grey why are you a salad
Looking at how the blue bird dailies are written in the daily side menu, it is probably in the same style as those new spirit daily quests (cannoneer catapult for example). And those had happened only once so far so I doubt it'll be repeating for an entire season lol xD
as somebody in live, i am crying over here
Because #seasons-events-chat message
Or the moments quests ? (Which are so cute btw)
YEAH THAT ONE
i never get tired of the moments ones
It's so so fitting and wholesome (I miss it. I want to take pictures there again)
I thought it was like a pizza 
The probkem with the days of treasure is that you arent truly interacting with the spirits. It would have been better to have a selfie with the spirits after finding the treasure, or holding their hands and searching together
Omg a selfie would be perfect (I mean I kinda take a selfie with in game camera 😭)
100%! Just seeing them pop in after i tirelessly search for the flag (hyperbole, it’s stupid easy most of the time) is not gratifying at all
I want a pat on the head and to be told i did a good job..or maybe a gold star
nah I think smth like, bearhug level 3
what about a variety of friendship tree emotes
Anyway I really hope these new seasonal / spirit quests would repeat. I'm getting tired of the same old enchantment coloured orb 
Oh my god..it’s really been that long?? 
if i have to chase orange light again some skykid is going to get thrown off the top of eden
I genuinely forgot that moments seasonal dailies were a thing and now I wish they're back 
they come back occasionally!! Dont worry. Still confused how the monk got ON TOP OF PRAIRIE TEMPLE LMAO
Really 
LMAO NOT THE MONK they're diabolical for that
I slacked off in moments (still got the monk) because i didnt like some of ghe cosmetics and i regret it sm
My boy monk is maxed though, his level 4 emote is majestic, bright but majestic
cannoneer catapulted them 
they secretly hired cannoneer to do the job
wonder if we can ask cannoneer to catapult us straight to the blue bird then
i think he climbed..like a goat
it’s canon that he likes places up high for meditation
Also dw i knowthe spirits are genderless, i just hc monk as he/they trust
LMAO i imagine monk got so stressed they started meditating there, but forgot to ask us to bring them down
why did i imagine them climbling like a goat walks on land...
Nah he'll be like: this is the way of my life
We're getting a little off beta topic rails kinda lol
oops, i'm sorry
it's ok lol
Like fr we have sooo many new quests already, like a good amount of them against the old classics, so why not mix them up like skittles
taste the rainbow 🏳️🌈
yeah it'd be nice to have more quest variety.. rather than having to relieve pleaful parent or any of the seasonal area spirits
NO. DONT GET ME STARTED (idm going through but it takes a while)
Nah fr I love the storyline of the spirit dailies over few weeks. Like how we catapult cannoneer, then we prank commodore 
Coughs in live…can’t wait XD
by far, how many realm spirit surrounded quests have we gotten? i remember last we got prairie quests with the moments spirits. did we get vault based too?
Oh so far nope? I think we've got ones in prairie, forest, valley and gw with the catapults
damn, i was hoping for some narci quests soon, they're so peak
Gotta feedback to manifest it
Potentially one of the blue bird daily could be the new vault based daily
now that general has been discussing calls ive been hearing the bluebird call in my headddd
i cant say a wordddd
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(Di-ru-Di!)
such a cool call though, if a bit high pitched 
So that catch blue bird daily. It seems it has some crazy wind path in there and when I tried to follow it it placed me in front of the bird every single time, and exiting it is impossible, and also the star indicator disappears and you can't see anything
it's a hard thing to pull off, what I do is flap as much as possible to reset the cycle, you eventually catch up and you can grab it!
I love the new chat stick
Hello
Mannn why mask and cape is the ult should have been some hair

Can't really have hair cosmetic since they are still season of belonging spirits. Radiance added hair to a hooded gratitude spirit so that still worked.
we got one hair tho
I said ult one
I was responding to ash as they seem have forgotten we got a hairstyle
a hairstyle that's a hat over confetti cousin's hair, yep.
still can't stop thinking about the implication of grandma having a cough emote....
Guys idk what they mean by player icon??? As in other players? Your flight button? Your star icon above ur head?
"moth" players now have a special little flower looking symbol over their heads to tell you they're a moth
Nuuu i can’t dress up as fake moth anymore 😭
no more fake moths pranks 