beta-season-test-chat

[somber oyster]

Yes no need to look into the funny oob bugs!

[orchid knot]

Look away from them

[shell fossil]

I pretend I do not see

or something

[tulip veldt]

@casey oops

[past robin]

Sure sure sure. “Oops” 😂

[tulip veldt]

where did that put you actually ?

[past robin]

In my own nest

[tulip veldt]

did vika go with you /

[past robin]

No. She got yeeted to her own too

[hollow timber]

You kicked us out!

[tulip veldt]

i tried to lead you thru the elevator 🙂

[past robin]

Pere said house party is over byyyyeee

[hollow timber]

to show the door for the exit?🤭

[tulip veldt]

well i was looking for more territory to sneak thru

now i have more feedback stuff 🙂

[tulip veldt]

hey if you put a bunch of furniture chairs into a shared space/nest do they work as a big chat table ?

[rich silo]

me looking at some pictures of motorbike like there was some roadkill left behind

[rich silo]

me pspspsing @orchid knot to come sit in the batbike
and also visit my castle™️

[orchid knot]

In a lil bit I'm eepy rn and I wanna see them with wide open eyes

[rich silo]

oke come back later

[hearty wigeon]

I’m eepy too 💖

[rich silo]

in the meantime I've figured out how I'm gonna build the dragon fighting the castle citizens so I'll do that
remembered that I built a similar thing ages ago that was destroyed in my prairie SS

[hallow pendant]

So the cape in the cafe …how do we get it? When I click on it .. it says I have collected all gifts

[static dawn]

Hi beta netizens, I got a question if you like going out of bounds in the new house area: on a scale of 1 to "I love out of bounds!! :3" how much are you enjoying it? Do you enjoy decorating out of bounds? Is it something you feel strongly about? Do you already have some cool decor going on up there?

[rich silo]

I haven't built OOB but I think it would be nice to have an open balcony as is to have the option of going outside
like have a rooftop garden type situation

[orchid knot]

I haven't built in oob because I assumed it'd get patched eventually, but it's a lot of fun to go oob with friends, especially after they've visited and thrown all my plushies out the windows so we gotta go rescue mission time

[rich silo]

it's also funny when they stare into the house from outside like totally not stalking you

[ionic pendant]

I haven't built anything out there so far but I think it would be fun. ^_^

[static dawn]

ATM I'm discussing the non-intended aspect of the level's design. If you do have some feedback for intended design like an actual balcony I suggest #beta-feedback

[rich silo]

no access....what is that

[ionic pendant]

I would love it even more if my nest could just be bigger though. Got a bedroom/living room thing going on but there's no good place left for kitchen or bath time type items now. ^_^;;

[rich silo]

yeah and I'm just wondering if it became an intended aspect, how it could be incorporated in a natural way

[austere flume]

Well, the nests currently are their own map disconnected from Aviary, yes?
It may look strange if a balcony was purposely attached. It will be looking out into the void.
More map elements will need to be built around the Nest building for that design to feel natural. But that may impact performance on low-end devices.

[high atlas]

Ohh I'd love to build oob too! I also was in a similar boat of not building outside the home since I thought it'd be patched. Personally would love to make an outdoor area to decorate too, like a seating area or garden or something

[rich silo]

oh luci imagine if we could have a separate lil floating island
just leading out from one of the windows

[high atlas]

A garden cafe island!

[ionic pendant]

If I could have an upstairs floor added to my nest I could put my bedroom and bathroom up there and then split the bottom into kitchen and livingroom... Ooh floating garden island sounds like a cool idea too. ^_^

[rich silo]

second floor would definitely be cool (and so we don't use up building blocks and still can have the same kind of ceiling height)

[high atlas]

That too. I really hope we can get multiple rooms, though I do like my big windows by my bed

[rich silo]

tangent but I have a missing candle somewhere in my build and I don't know where it is I need it for an eyeball

[tulip veldt]

nest is actually a tardis

[orchid knot]

no-access

[static dawn]

OH

[past robin]

Also says no-access for me!

[rich silo]

now it's beta-feedback and no access

[high atlas]

It's the second link that is no access

[static dawn]

OH IS THE WISHLIST CHANNEL GONE
SORRY MODS DONT BAN ME PLEASE ily guys <3

[ionic pendant]

Same, iko trying to send us to some forbidden backrooms to leave our feedback.

[rich silo]

wow when was that removed were people just not happy about it
(also tbh we weren't allowed to mention beta things in the wishlist channel anyway)

[orchid knot]

I think one of my favourite things about the oobing out of nest thing is just how vast it is and how we can just sit and enjoy the peace and tranquility, but that's maybe not something that's like worthwhile in terms of like players utilising a leftover oob to its fullest potential..?

But if oob get left purely for building purposes then it would honestly just make more sense to give us a balcony or something out there that's actually intended rather than something we have to smack our way out the walls/windows to reach

[covert bison]

It’s fun to go in oob but you can’t get back in without a friends hand or glitch. Maybe let the window be accessible from outside in case a moth is sent flying?

[high atlas]

I heard something about combining them to make it easier or something. I don't remember. But either way, at least we know where Iko was trying to send us to

[static dawn]

sorry i just live and breathe in the backrooms and it has become a habit

[orchid knot]

Wishlist channel was archived and essentially all wishlist and feedback for live is merged into #live-feedback (there was an announcement in the channel but we can't see that now lol)

[rich silo]

yeah I just went the [give us a balcony] route because that sentiment had been echoed a couple times in past conversations how people want more space in the nest as is and like
opening it up to the outside would solve that issue tbh, without oobing

like if the topic of oobable buildable space is in play I would rather it be accessible to the regular player rather than getting there through glitching

[static dawn]

ngl i was so confused i thought yall meant yall didn't know how to go out of bounds in the house area space thingi (crying)

[orchid knot]

There's a specific oobing community that would very much enjoy having oob access (but I figure they'll find a way regardless) so to me if the idea behind leaving the oob optional is for us to be able to build out there then it would just be more practical to design a space out there specifically but that's something that's up to devs of course!

[tulip veldt]

if you can purposefully build in the oob space, is it really oob anymore?

[rich silo]

no beta is very used to oob it's part of the lifeblood

[orchid knot]

you underestimate our ability to break your game

[high atlas]

Beta is here to break the game and oob when we can

[static dawn]

im aware, thus the confusion

[orchid knot]

an idea for if you do intend to keep the oob, maybe hide secrets there that would make most sense for keeping it open intentionally

but I think the novelty and the magic of oobs tends to be the fact we're not supposed to get to a place and when we do it looks silly or pretty or something fun happens like colour bugs and such

[static dawn]

I'm just a part of QA and wanted to see how folks felt abt decorating into the void that is out of bounds since I am usually the one that tries to bring light to some player-loved OOB spots. It is not up to me whether or not things are salvaged/kept in the game, I just wanted to see how the waters felt abt it. Apologies for any confusion 😭
The suggestions on the other hand might be fun to add in #beta-feedback if not already!

[high atlas]

Well we appreciate you advocating for us oobers.

[orchid knot]

Oooh!! We appreciate it, it's always nice to know devs are interested in different ways the community plays the game

Luna has arrived she loves the oobs

[static dawn]

I love advocating for fun OOBs and niche bugs as long as they don't harm other players or break ToS. Let the OOB reckoning prevail RAAAAAAH

[bleak mural]

I've been enjoying decorating the floating bell tower top and I even made a heart with bricks and rectangle shelves on the outside wall of my nest

[covert bison]

I think as long as we can place furniture out there it’s ok, and people will do that to make secret areas for their friends. I think players will still go out of bounds one way or another to do this

[orchid knot]

OOBS FIND A WAY!

[static dawn]

I am also giant OOB enjoyer and thought others felt the same about making fun "outdoor" decor out of bounds, I think the beta screenshot channel has some good photos that can back up my claims lol, anyways sorry for the confusion! I shall poof

[covert bison]

Are they planning to make furniture red out there

[high atlas]

Have a great day! Thank you for checking in and asking too!!

[orchid knot]

Thank you for visiting from the backrooms! Have a good day Ikô

[rich silo]

I doubt it, it doesn't really break TOS

@urban coral sorry for ping but I just had the same problem as you after I finished editing my nest
It was working perfectly fine earlier but now I can't open the workshop SS menu at all, it makes the challenge one show up instead?? and then game crashes

[urban coral]

Hmm interesting. Yeah I thought it kinda just happened

[rich silo]

I restarted my game and the problem continues to persist

[urban coral]

I couldn’t get it to go away. Didn’t seem to affect anything in my nest. Thank goodness my blinding color glitch in there is gone tho.

[rich silo]

I'm gonna close entry to my nest and see if that does anything
also going up during sunset time in aviary makes the colour blind glitch happen cuz it just happened to me

[urban coral]

Ahhh. I did go up during day time

[rich silo]

yeah okay something happened because I can't interact with shared space spell things or shared memories either

[celest idol]

It has a map just for it and it's this small section, if the top part was open, you could make a kind of backyard there to place external items like a picnic table, swing, seesaw. ...

because the area outside the house is huge and there is still room for a lot of things

[somber oyster]

Yeah

hi Iko

[static dawn]

SOF

i was behaving :) doing normal skykid things

[somber oyster]

Serious answer: I genuinely hope we get some sort of patio because it’s been a blast decorating outside and doing crimes

[static dawn]

HUH WHO SAID THAT

[somber oyster]

So true

[static dawn]

yeah

[somber oyster]

Yeah

[solar lark]

[bleak mural]

Do we have criminals in here?

[fickle bobcat]

I accidentally stole a nail polish once oh wait, is that not what you meant?

[hallow pendant]

Doot

[rich silo]

mannequin changed to bag on back

new challenge view 30 sunsets at your nest

[urban coral]

I can interact with memories and shared spaces again

Still can’t edit or move items in one handed mode tho :( I hope this bug don’t persist too much longer. I hate switching back and forth just to move stuff

[rich silo]

prop placement count is still just as sad
but holla you can find my motorbike now

[urban coral]

I looked… but alas, no luck. I swear I only see like 10 or so peoples over and over again

Oop… green light bug still here… rip my eyes

[rich silo]

if you don't mind, I could friend ya through code and that might make it easier :0c

[urban coral]

Sure :D

[high atlas]

So the "see a sunset 30 times in your nest" mini wuest, you can just enter and leave your nest over and over. It counts towards the sunsets each time.

[orchid knot]

excuse me what

[high atlas]

It's okay bubba just leave and enter your nest over and over. (Probably not the intended way but oh well)

[rich silo]

time to game the system before they change it 🏃

[orchid knot]

It just sounds like a really pointless quest 😭 I definitely doubt the going in and out thing is intentional but I shall do exactly that

[limber nacelle]

That's very unsatisfying, I'd reduce it to 5 sunsets.

[rich silo]

heck when is the next sunset in aviary

[high atlas]

Well it just ended, so I think 2 hours?

[orchid knot]

I just don't see the point in any sunsets, at least the other challenges made sense in relation to like props, building, visiting friends, etc. I don't really get what correlation watching a sunset has

[high atlas]

We do have to high five a friend in a nest. That sounds kinda neat

[orchid knot]

TWO HOURS? MAN I WILL NEVER SEE 30 SUNSETS I'LL BE ASLEEP

[lavish matrix]

It's every 4 hours xD

[orchid knot]

I'm need that to change immediately just for me uwu

[high atlas]

Odd cuz it was at 8:40, and then at 10:40 so idk if it's 4

[urban coral]

another reason for me to hate the day / night schedule

[lavish matrix]

So 2 hours?? I'm not sure

[orchid knot]

I don't mind the schedule, it's nice when you don't need it, but when there's a quest attached to anything timed please throw me directly into the void thanks

[high atlas]

Also maybe it just bugged out for me idk. I always thought it was 2 hours but android might be being silly

[lavish matrix]

I think it has to do with appreciating the nest

[orchid knot]

Aviary day cycle by Velvet #seasons-events-chat message

[high atlas]

Okay well mine was bugged out then cuz I got it 2 times in 4 hours. Unless sunrise also makes your screen green

[orchid knot]

"spend 5 minutes in your nest, visit 5 friends nests, place 5 more props in your nest, love your nest, feed your nest, cherish your nest" BUT WHY SUNSET IN NEST???

[lavish matrix]

FEED YOUR NEST

[limber nacelle]

Any quest that involves timings of things to get and achieve is very annoying. I don't want a repeat of last year's anniversary timed events.

[orchid knot]

Maybe I'm just very very particular about what links there are for challenges like my brain is like these challenges are very much linked to the whole nesting season in some way, even just taking photos in your nest, but I don't care about what the sun is doing when I'm in my nest I'm busy decorating and partying and throwing plushies out the windows

[rich silo]

it was night time for me last I saw aviary though....and based on the time that wouldn't be now?

[vapid fossil]

Day-Night Cycle in Aviary (DST Edition)
by Velvet
#seasons-events-chat message
psst also timing feels off in beta but that's probably just me

[high atlas]

Okay so the beta time is off, and I'm not crazy

[orchid knot]

what if tgc don't know when the sunset is either and that's why they want us to look for it 30 times

[rich silo]

it's at early morning right now so it's not accurate to either of those clocks

[lavish matrix]

tgc: oops I lost a schedule can u guys pls check for me thks

[urban coral]

i can see if these are quests that are supposed to be done over a long time but they seem like they are tied to the season so yeah it feels like its gonna take FOREVER to do some of these

[orchid knot]

Wait a minute are you the Velvet who made the thingo

[vapid fossil]

is it back to 90 minutes rotation for testing purpose

[high atlas]

Oh that might make sense. Especially with a time based quest

[orchid knot]

Oh neato we have a key icon to go up the elevator that's new right?

[rich silo]

you know I think it is actually sped up in beta because like
when we hung out the other day I did think the daylight cycle went by really fast

[orchid knot]

went to my nest without activating the quest

[high atlas]

Yes the key is new and I meant to comment on how cute it was but conversation went elsewhere

[tulip veldt]

do not taunt nest (old reference?)

[orchid knot]

@past robin come castle! I nyoomed out the door before I finished typing

[tender patio]

from 253629 update notes

Updates to day/night cycle in Aviary Village

now early morning starts on the hour and lasts for 10 minutes
<t:1711090800:t> , <t:1711094400:t> , <t:1711098000:t> ...

foggy morning - 5 minutes
<t:1711091400:t> , <t:1711095000:t> , <t:1711098600:t> ...

daytime - 25 minutes
<t:1711091700:t> , <t:1711095300:t> , <t:1711098900:t> ...

sunset - 10 minutes
<t:1711093200:t> , <t:1711096800:t> , <t:1711100400:t> ...

night time - 10 minutes
<t:1711093800:t> , <t:1711097400:t> , <t:1711101000:t> ...

[cosmic vine]

hi hello
a couple questions about the mannequin / figurine cause I don't have it yet

• does it save the spells you have applied, even if you don't have that item?
• if yes, can you make tiny and giant figurines using the height spells?

well, to be fair, the more important question would be if you can make your skid into a lamp using the glow spell

[orchid knot]

SUNSET TIME YALL

[urban coral]

darn... you have to be in the nest when the sun goes down? I missed it

[orchid knot]

Yo doing this 30 times sucks actually even if you're gaming the system as a tester

Surely not? I would have thought as long as you went in it would count cause rn I'm just going in and leaving and going back again

[urban coral]

huh... didnt register for me.

[orchid knot]

I wonder if I'll get the funky green bug whilst I'm here

[urban coral]

i did

0/30 but gummy green bug

[lavish matrix]

the gummy green bug as a ✨️bonus✨️

[urban coral]

ooop... i got one on the 3rd try..yay

[orchid knot]

if the elevator breaks tell maintenance it wasn't me y'all

[urban coral]

mine eyes 🟢

[south gazelle]

Random shower thought: Genuinely surprised that there's no prop ult, for a season about props

[rich silo]

there is a 99 AC WIP at the top after sunset gonna grab and see what that is
after i reload my game cuz it crashed

[orchid knot]

WE HAVE TO PAY FOR THESE REWARDS???

[willow eagle]

hmm yeah, but tbh i kinda prefer having no prop ult for this season

[orchid knot]

y'all cy crashed

[urban coral]

well the figurine is kinda a prop

[orchid knot]

Nooo I got to 27/30 and it's night time

[lavish matrix]

I mean it's like the season guide quest tree with item rewards but 99ac is just

[urban coral]

darn... stoopid night time

[orchid knot]

No but these challenges are like on top of the season quests, like they're part of the third one, but there's 3 different types of challenges with multiple different quests per type so I would have thought after all the effort we'd get a free reward and not just a heart and shared space (newly added) cause payoff didn't feel right at all with the amount of stuff we're having to do but now we gotta drop more muns

Also unrelated but why is there aurora concert noises in my nest??? There's honking and emoting, why am I being haunted

[lavish matrix]

Bubba'a the unluckiest dhfndjkf

[cosmic vine]

broke: I spent 99 ac on this

woke: this item costed me 7 deaths

[urban coral]

yeah wee need that sound proof glass. how am i supposed to chill out with all this noise

[rich silo]

oh......
oh this is a mannequin
the 99 AC item

[lavish matrix]

Wait maybe that's why they updated eden to be relatively easy

[orchid knot]

no really I'm being haunted pls send helo

[lavish matrix]

Pray for the elders and offer 10 ac

[cosmic vine]

wait so
cy does that mean you get to place 2 mannequins in the nest

OHHH it's like MANNEQUIN mannequin

[orchid knot]

GET ME OUT OF HERE 😭

[urban coral]

nice... 2 outfits :D

[rich silo]

I'm gonna see if it copies other things

[urban coral]

bummer in beta is that it doesnt seem to remember my invisicape when i lock it in

[lavish matrix]

Everyone else: ooooo a mannequin

Bubba: send help I'm being haunted do I call ghost busters

[orchid knot]

Okay I'm on the roof and I still hear voices 💀

[rich silo]

okay it doesn't copy mask accessories but it does copy hair ones
there's no WIP icon so it's purely for display only

[willow eagle]

i genuinely hope these prices are placeholder because 99 AC for the mannequin is a bit, much even though it's pretty useful

[urban coral]

aww so you cant use it to equip an outfit?

[orchid knot]

When you're done with the mannequin can you come see if you hear ghosts in my house too cy

[cosmic vine]

I mean, considering it's basically a budget ult, it's not that bad

[orchid knot]

WAIT I LOCKED MYSELF ON THE ROOF I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY TO WARP TO AND I DIDN'T OPEN MY NEST 😭

[rich silo]

it's also currently shared space specific because it didn't show up in my closet

[orchid knot]

every day that I exist is another day the world wins 😔

[cosmic vine]

I still seek an answer

[willow eagle]

Yknow, the mannequin could work as a wig stand if you want to make a salon, or cosplay station

[urban coral]

id pay some mega AC to get a bunch of outfit equipable figurines for quick change

but i dunno about just a coat rack mannequin

[rich silo]

jaws I have your answer

spells will apply onto the mannequin but it will not transfer onto your sky kid after the fact unless you already own the item

[cosmic vine]

okay but can you lamp

[rich silo]

I doubt it because when I did my elder mask copy it didn't glow it was broken, but I shall see

[orchid knot]

homed came back and yet more ghost noises :(

[frozen quest]

So 99 AC item has the same as Ultimate Gift dresser, doesn't it ?
( Is it just different from the shape .. ;w; like the Season Of Moments Cameras )

[rich silo]

the 99 AC item is a hair + hair accessory + cape display
there is no interactable icon, it just copies what you're wearing onto the thing when placed

[orchid knot]

kid claiming candles noises???? someone waving, greeter emote, spin, sparkler??? I'm crying actually

[urban coral]

in the update notes they said :・The dresser item functions like a game closet, allowing a player to place a closet wherever they want in the realms

[lavish matrix]

Bubba make sure you're not seeing things irl 😭

[orchid knot]

THE WAY I ALMOST DIED AT THE TIP TOE NOISES FROM CASEY I'M NOT OKAY

[rich silo]

that's the big cabinet closet, not the 99 AC thing at the top of the nest based tree

[sage briar]

Heard there’s a new update anything exciting

[cosmic vine]

yeah bubba is being haunted

[lavish matrix]

mhm

[orchid knot]

[sage briar]

Oop

[lavish matrix]

Is the haunting a bug report worthy 😭

[orchid knot]

Yes, Casey is haunted in her nest too, so now we're just being haunted together at my place

[cosmic vine]

steps to reproduce:

• awaken unholy forces

[lavish matrix]

No it's more like:

• be Bubba or Casey

[orchid knot]

We're dancing the devils away with the shell music

[lavish matrix]

I'm sorry but I'm laughing so hard rn dhfmfjgkfv

[orchid knot]

It absolutely doesn't help when it's 4am 😭

[lavish matrix]

Maybe you both need to sleep

[orchid knot]

that's what the ghosts want

[cosmic vine]

if they fall asleep they will get them

[sage briar]

It’s always a party here in the beta chats

[lavish matrix]

Tbh it's the ghosts in bubbas nest partying

[cosmic vine]

sometimes an exorcism is also an epic dance off

[orchid knot]

I don't want the ghosts to have a turn thank you

[whole plinth]

50!? That's ridiculous tgc

[sage briar]

50 for what?

[fervent crest]

Does anyone know if the quests on the small blackboard on the far right side of the furniture store will still be available after the season ends?

[rich silo]

those are likely to be permanent

[tender patio]

def will
there's no way for me to complete all of them during one season

[rich silo]

oh yeah the bed got an updated sleep icon on it too which is cute
and you automatically lie down on it

[orchid knot]

I hope the items at the end are permanent too

[fervent crest]

When I only needed hearts to buy furniture, I spent 595 hearts that I had accumulated for one and a half years to buy all the furniture. Now the task "Buy 3 pieces of furniture" on the small blackboard cannot be completed (because no furniture can be purchased anymore), if these tasks are permanent tasks, then new furniture may appear in the future, and then it seems possible to complete the tasks again🤣

[orchid knot]

Oh we had that last build

[rich silo]

hang on I need to test my new theory looking closer at the mannequin
that cape is squishing differently because I'm always on crossed arms

[fervent crest]

There seems to be one less mission in the Aviary season. The mission to Eden has become the third mission. The previous missions 1~3 have become missions 1~2?
I remember there were 10 missions in Aviary season, but now I count only 9.👀

[orchid knot]

Ayo? I just walked into the workshop and a task completed

[covert bison]

I think the bell tower didn’t count anymore as one,, a different build

[orchid knot]

Alrighty it just completed itself at 27/30 nice

Is this compensation for my other task not completing still even though I've apparently viewed 1019/50 shared spaces

It's nice there's the ult mini figure and then this mannequin that presumably will be around after the season

[rich silo]

honestly it still makes the mannequin desireable in itself like
it's a cosmetic display!!

[orchid knot]

I hope it'll hold more than cape and hair later cause it's a bit creepy rn

[rich silo]

bubba I think adding more would make it more creepy than it currently is ngl
WAIT I COULD DO A THING WITH VAULT ELDER HAIR 🏃

[orchid knot]

I just think maybe like a neck accessory addition or something to make it a lil more dressed would be nice, just something to add a finishing touch

[rich silo]

I wasn't wearing neck accessories lemme see if it copies that also

IT DOES
IT COPIES IT, BUBBA

[orchid knot]

Oooh show show

[sage briar]

Oh the mannequin is cool, does it only work with your current outfit? Anyone know how it works yet?

[rich silo]

yeah it just copies what you're wearing onto the mannequin like the ult

[sage briar]

Oh cool!

So if you change your outfit while it’s on display does the mannequin chnage or not?

[rich silo]

it won't change, it's set the moment you place it

[sage briar]

Oooo thank you Cy

[rich silo]

I did find out however that I didn't need to just remove and replace whenever I changed stance all I had to do was just move the mannequin a little bit and it would update

[sage briar]

Oooo

[lavish matrix]

I have a question, how does one obtain the guide's cape and hairstyle then? If the ults are the pants and the figurine

[cloud ocean]

Spirit trees?

[lavish matrix]

Ohh hm interesting

It's just bc I thought I've been wondering what is the "free outfit" you get upon completing the first quest/ interacting with the workshop table or something, I don't really remember, it was in the first build

[orchid knot]

I'm just assuming that's not relevant anymore but I can go check on flop brb

[sage briar]

The icons for the new items are so cute

[orchid knot]

Omg the guide is magic

[blissful grove]

30 Sunsets ?

[orchid knot]

Okay update, the item is a stool

[lavish matrix]

The stool??

[covert bison]

Will be sleeping in nest…
Does it count when you’re afk?

[orchid knot]

I'll show a video when my cooldown ends or tomorrow if I fall asleep before that, but yeah you do the first quest and the guide is like something ain't right (it couldn't possibly be the hulk coloured sofa chair surely ) and then they're like come here so you go over and they give you a stool brand new free all for you uwu

[lavish matrix]

Free stool heh that's cute xD

[orchid knot]

I lied I posted the funny first

[lavish matrix]

jsskffjkdoff 😭 ofc the sofa isn't suspicious looking

[orchid knot]

not at all just bruce banner in a bad mood but sulking in sofa instead of getting angry

Oh you can actually see the stool in the back of the first image, just a lil stone thing

[lavish matrix]

Guess the free stool is your first nest buddy

[orchid knot]

Sorry for the late reply, but the sunset thing is like if you stay in your nest during the sunset it's only 1/30

[rich silo]

so if you game the system and leave and go back multiple times, the count goes up

[lusty flax]

every time i try and enter my nest i have green whiplash 😭

[urban coral]

noooooo.... 29/30 whhhy

darn nighttime

lol... went to the shop and it completed anyway. 99AC tho :( Gonna take some weeks

[deft quail]

I still did not have time to test beta, but I have a question: do we have to complete furniture shop board's challenges in order to complete nesting seasonal guide quests?
or challenges and nesting quests are separate things?

[rich silo]

@naive jacinth looking at your pictures, it actually makes a lot of sense that it would be the placeable prop part of the closet!! because harmony hall does the handheld items
wonder if it will branch outside of instruments or it mostly wants to promote that

re: nightzel
the challenges and nesting quests are separate, challenges seem to be permanent side quest thingos to do in your own time, they don't have a timer for completing them

[tender patio]

is the 3rd mini quest from Friend available now? the one after five player party

[rich silo]

it's still bugged and won't register as complete

[rich silo]

sorry bubba continuing my joke:

guide: I-
me: so the torch has no collision and you can pierce it through other objects because the item actually only cares about how the bottom rod is placed so you can put it right through the cauldron when doing it the other way wouldn't let you-

[naive jacinth]

(my real experience yesterday, that's why I decided to sketch that drawing )

[rich silo]

(I'm so sorry but also thank you for listening to all that I felt bad )

[naive jacinth]

(it's okay, I liked it )

[rich silo]

(at least you did learn something from all that )

listen I may be passionate about object collision but it is educational sometimes 🫵
(sometimes)

(maybe)

[naive jacinth]

Very educational!
nod nod emote

[finite anchor]

already feedbacked this but is anyone else struggling with the roundish ceiling inside the nest? I wanted to place some of the hanging plants but they're all so diagonal because the ceiling isn't flat :')
I genuinely can't think of a reason why I'd want the ceilings to be round. it makes placing anything on the ceilings/high on the walls pretty much impossible

[haughty plume]

I’ve been struggling with this as well. I’d like to have the hanging plant follow the laws of physics

[rich silo]

I wonder
the hanging plant is so useful for building because it's not bound to locked orientation, but would it work better if it had a locked one like the windchimes from remembrance?
that one you can place anywhere and no matter what it's always straight

but also like, the ceiling is so high wouldn't you benefit from building up with blocks then suspending the plants from those instead so they can be of lower elevation

[finite anchor]

yeah they are high so the hanging plants look a bit awkward but this is more about the ceiling shape in general

I just really can't think of a single reason why a rounded ceiling would be useful for designing 😭

[rich silo]

well it would be cute if you wanted to do like
glow in the dark sticker ceiling with the prophecy stickers and stuff
that stuff lends better to a curved ceiling rather than a flat one for depth

[orchid knot]

I didn't really have an issue placing the hanging plants on the ceiling and I enjoy the roumd mainly cause it looks more cozy

[rich silo]

but on which ceiling did you place them

[orchid knot]

the one in my nest......

oh my shared memory has finally vanished for me, I wonder if crabubba has been banished for y'all too

[bleak mural]

if anyone has viewed 30 sunsets and has 99+ AC, you can buy the prize at the end of the nesting path challenges now

because apparently, doing three quests is not enouh for a prize and I need to spend an exorbitant 100 AC on top of that

[gilded jasper]

Is the portable closet used as a back cosmetic or it can be used only in shared spaces?

[nocturne blade]

Do you have to view 31 sunsets to get it at a discount price? /j

[finite anchor]

even if this is a placeholder price, I feel like doing the quests should be enough to earn the cosmetics for free 😭
like wow I guess the furniture prices weren't high enough already

[cold spindle]

Wait what is this about viewing 30 sunsets in our nests are we actually living on asteroid b612 in disguise or are we supposed to wait it out-

[somber oyster]

Finally able to check out the doot, I love the lighting changes in our nest

[bleak mural]

@gilded turret it's the Nesting Path of quest 3's challenge board!

[gilded turret]

Is it in the furniture store? 😭 I'm clueless

[bleak mural]

yeah it's in the workshop

[gilded turret]

I got it now thanks ...i viewed 0 sunset

Also about the one where it says to view 50 shared space...i can't see anything there..only mine...not even shared spaces scattered around

[lavish matrix]

Try to go to outside realms and view the shared space shrines

[bleak mural]

that wouldn't do much, because the challenge for those still doesn't work

[lavish matrix]

Oh 😭 broken quests still,,,

[somber oyster]

Anyone else notice some weird pitch / key bugs when playing music sheets in our Nests?

[waxen oyster]

Anyone planning a party any time soon?

[trail notch]

We gotta plan something in #beta-looking-for-group haha

[dire sparrow]

#beta-screenshots-videos message @rich silo this is reminding me of your ACNH days

[sage briar]

Do someone say portable closet 👀

[rich silo]

I feel attacked
DON'T CALL ME OUT LIKE THIS 😂

[umbral abyss]

This season is destroying me 🫠 no friends to even high five in my best.. can't afford to buy the 3 items from the store without it resetting... please just tell me I'm not the only one struggling 😵

[rich silo]

It resets because you have to buy them all in the same play session, they all work like that right now

[umbral abyss]

Ugh there's no way 🫠 I'm always broke lol

[dire sparrow]

Look once I remembered the ACNH times everything all made sense LOL your island was so planned out and fun to explore!!

[rich silo]

I CAN'T HELP IT THEY FINALLY ADDED MORE PROP VARIETY POWERS UNLEASHED

I still want more giant props like the pipe though

My island was a lot like how I still build haha
Build a specific scenic centerpiece then suffer trying to make it fit with all the other empty space I have

[orchid knot]

okay but gimme a dodo code

[rich silo]

my island is actually on youtube someone visited and toured it

the video is still there and it was made during the heyday of ACNH and has 463k views it’s grown some
I was too nervous and spoke quickly

[orchid knot]

I'd like to know why nesting guide insists on giving me bugged props that make my wardrobe flash constantly, ever since I unlocked the figurine the curse has returned

[rich silo]

you sure you just didn’t go near your prop closet because it had been blinking nonstop for me no matter what since the season started

[orchid knot]

Idk I'm sure it had stopped but maybe not

[gilded turret]

Same!! It's too damn annoying

I thought it happened right after i bought that music shell prop

[orchid knot]

posted a new memory in the workshop oob, y'all have fun if you find it

[gilded turret]

Sorry for the ping didn't see

[spiral needle]

Using emulators is against the Sky TOS, @elder pebble. Please don’t use or discuss emulators here.

[elder pebble]

Not what I was talking about, silly bot

Anyways, I see what Bubba meant about being "haunted" - they're actually ambiance noises, I guess to give the impression of activity outside of the nest

You hear them better when you're near the windows (but especially near the lift)

[balmy tapir]

Tbh, where is the nest supposed to be located, what are we looking at from the windows. It's just clouds

[elder pebble]

The nests are located above Aviary, exactly from where you enter (you can see the tower from the windows for example), it's just that clouds cover the whole village
Which is understandable, since rendering the entire village would put a huge strain on our devices

[balmy tapir]

I can see the tower, the thing is that this place doesn't have actual physical presence on the aviary map, unless it's supposed to be inside the big cloud. It just feels kind of nonsensical to me. Who are these windows overlooking the plaza for?

[lavish matrix]

Neither do the shops, they're on a separate physical building too, and the Aviary we can see outside is a much simpler and bare bones version

[balmy tapir]

? The shops may be bigger on the inside but they're all there with exits that match

[bleak mural]

I get where you're coming from, but I would much rather save processing power to have more furniture than have more of the village rendered

[rich silo]

could just be lower levels to indicate that players live in the building, not necessarily exactly in that location
more facade worldbuilding so people know when they look in that direction that it's player homes

[balmy tapir]

Tbh, the inside shops map renders a lot of the village and it's not like this map is as bare as the nests map. I do get that they're probably saving space.
It's not about the nests map not rendering the village, but that it's just not connecting with anything that exists in the aviary map. We have lower levels visible, but then we have the open space up there, and it means the most of the building must be somewhere inside that cloud, and then this makes me think how many elevators that place must have

I'm the only person with this problem, I know

[elder pebble]

I think you should just learn how to suspend your disbelief (especially when engaging with a fantasy game) it's a wonderful skill to have

[warm ocean]

Mine has been blinking for almost the entire season, the new props aren't there (I assume that's as planned? That they are just for shared spaces and not to carry?) but it thinks they are and I can't clear it

[balmy tapir]

Thank you for your valuable contribution to this conversation

[elder pebble]

No need to be passive-aggressive, you could have just ignored my message

[rich silo]

I think both sides are valid, you just experience the game in your own way but no need to be passive aggressive yeah

[balmy tapir]

Well, was your message not the same? It's beta, we're supposed to talk about how things make us feel. I'm just sharing

[high atlas]

I think with rendering things, it also takes in account to what you can see. It renders the village in shops because you can visibly see those areas. But from that apartment, you can only see the bell tower from there.

[elder pebble]

No that was not my intention, I'm sorry

[rich silo]

anyway, has anyone bought the bed because I noticed a weird discrepancy #beta-screenshots-videos message
like...does the purchase number = how many you can place in the shared space because the workshop SS says otherwise and usually they've been fairly consistent

[high atlas]

I have the bed let me see

[brave tangle]

Whats the (?) in shop for eden candles? 👀 did anyone buy it yet?

[maiden basin]

Is it normal for the 30 sunsets challenge reset if the cycle changes or is it bugged? I was one sunset away

Edit: Oh thank goodness

[high atlas]

I can only place one bed. I see it says 2 though

[bleak mural]

I'm assuming it's the vase you can see on display, but I'm not sure!

[rich silo]

I was excited for a moment because I was so sad about the nerfing of large props to single placeables
praying they upped it back and will fix SS to include it

[elder pebble]

Also! If you want to complete that quest, you can use that trick that Jaws shared:
#beta-discussion message

[covert bison]

I heard something like this but thought I was imagining the footstep noises I’m listening now and seriously the nest is haunted lots of quiet frequent emotes noises

[rich silo]

theory is it might be the new pot on display to the left of the stairs? honestly don't know because the purple ? didn't appear in SS featured section either

[brave tangle]

A VASE?! Omg i wish you think it works already?

[maiden basin]

That's what I was doing but I arrived late at Aviary (I have the old Home Space) and it went night time right when I had 29 sunsets

[rich silo]

this somehow reminds me of when the sounds for the fireworks event was being tested for revival finale and like
it's awkward crowd sounds but now you're stuck with it in the quiet of your home

[rich silo]

it should mark as complete even if you didn't get all 30, bubba managed to turn it in that way
just go to the workshop after

[high atlas]

Mine reset from yesterday unfortunately

[covert bison]

I don’t like it being in my home because certain emote noises bother me the nest should be peaceful and I closed visitors so I didn’t expect it to sound like people having a party on the roof… apartment life I guess

[balmy tapir]

Can't escape noisy neighbours even in-game

[maiden basin]

It didn't, unfortunately. I insisted with the excuse that the sky was pink-purple but nope, it went back to 0/30

[bleak mural]

I think it probably does! we do see it ingame after all, it just doesn't have an icon I think

[rich silo]

my discord refreshed and I have to type again

I agree with you, I'd like nests to be private spaces to relax and not be bothered by others, not have intrusive sounds

[balmy tapir]

It being haunted just like concert coliseum after season is funny tho

[covert bison]

I can’t wait to get the green light bug again for a true haunted house experience…

[bleak mural]

they seem to have patched it

[high atlas]

It was not patched. I got it as soon as I went to my home after the update lmao

[rich silo]

skybot would like to know your location
p e a s

[bleak mural]

oh? I joined my nest more than 50 times today on sunsets, how come I didn't get it

[covert bison]

Is sky bot the one partying in the walls

[rich silo]

speaking of patched, they fixed the chibi mask height + figurine costume thing so that's not glitchable anymore

[high atlas]

Beta magic ✨

[covert bison]

Wait are pants ult, and hair a regular seasonal item?

[high atlas]

Currently yes. Pants are an ult and hair is a seasonal item

[vale haven]

I’m sad that we cant be an absolute packrat with our nests like some of us are irl with our rooms :.) not that it’s healthy or anything but I want like fifty plushies stacked in a corner of the nest

[rich silo]

you could build your own with some candles n props
listen fluffy I made a cursed chicken once you can do anything

I mean do you want to see the cursed chicken

[high atlas]

Also I gave some thought to the figure ult, and I wish we could place multiple and customize them. That way we can have a set of figurines

[rich silo]

tbh it looks more like a dodo than a chicken 😂

[vale haven]

It’s adorable nonetheless and now you must plague the world with its cuteness

[rich silo]

#beta-screenshots-videos message
have you also seen my lil bug friend
bottom left image

[vale haven]

Ack I got yeeted anyhows it’s SUPER cute and derpy lil eyes is perfection

[rich silo]

it also makes me want an ingame krill plush even more tbh
like we gotta complete the og trinity

just thought of a dark plant plush and it would be so cute too

[orchid knot]

I assumed they added some ambience, but they haven't finalised it or something cause I don't want no hollering honks or all the spirit emote noises and for some reason there's a candle filling noise too

Maybe it's a placeholder track, as long as we don't get the cursed human laughter children yelling that we got during the fireworks finale 😭

[vale temple]

I haven't been able to test much this season bc of my graduate program preparations and working full time I feel bad

[orchid knot]

Real life comes first! I wish you all the best of luck, hopefully you'll enjoy the season and event if you get a free moment soon!

[indigo trail]

I wish we got more rooms in our nests. I don't wanna shower and cook in the same room

(Yes I sent it as feedback)

[open sparrow]

Is there a way to preview furniture that is currently in the shop rotation before purchasing? If not, I'll leave feedback

[rich silo]

yes and no?
there’s a roster of items in the pool that you have to buy in order to know what they look like, but the other ones are in the workshop shared space that you can put down and see first

[rich whale]

Hello, I'm no longer in beta but I have questions. Regarding next season, are all items not gonna be available anymore once the season ends? Or is it like, some items will still be available and some will not?

[frail merlin]

the stone furniture items available from the workshop counter will be permanent
theres more info about them in #beta-announcements

[waxen oyster]

There’s a hallway in our nests. Normally there are bathrooms and bedrooms that take up space and produce narrow hallways. Like what’s the reason that on both sides of our nests large chunks of the area are taken away, which creates that narrow hallway to the living room. There should be more rooms behind those walls that protrude

[covert bison]

I’m wondering if they may expand the nest over time. There’s a lot of empty space out there to add things in

[cunning hearth]

i think the hallway is just hiding your furniture loading in

[hallow pendant]

Anyone else having random kids show up in your nest and some even leaving memories ?

Also these quests are ridiculous. 30 sunsets? View 50 times? And none of the views are registering. Am I missing something ? Help! lol

[crystal swan]

Photo candles appeared at home

Does anyone know what the 9 tasks on the blackboard are?

[tender patio]

visit your nest during sunset time should work

Day/night cycle in Aviary #beta-season-test-chat message

[tender patio]

Nesting Challenges

Workshop

• Obtain 0/3 Props from the shop
• Publish 0/15 shared space spells
• Obtain 0/15 Props from the shop

Nest

• Place 0/5 props in your nest
• Use the Moments Guide's camera to take 0/50 pictures in your nest
• View 0/30 sunsets in your Nest

Friends

• High five a friend in your nest
• Attend a house party of five players
• View 0/50 shared spaces at the Shrines

[crystal swan]

Thank you, do you know the items that can be purchased and their prices to complete these tasks

[sweet jackal]

I thought it was 50 pic

[tender patio]

thanks! i wasn't aware of the change because i completed that one earlier

[tender patio]

Workshop item is the dresser, price unknown (previously 180AC)

Nest item is a 99 AC mannequin
see cy's potato beta log #beta-screenshots-videos message

Friends item unavailable now

[deft quail]

where can we get the nesting season Cape, Hair, and a Hair Accessory considering the spirit guide's ults are: pants and mini figure?

[tender patio]

"spirit" trees
#beta-screenshots-videos message by Wren

[rich silo]

the price last listed was 180 AC when it was in the workshop store rotation

ah, for the dresser

[tender patio]

wonder if they changed the price though
i unlocked the dresser when it cost candles/hearts so i won't be able to see its price now even if the 3rd quest become available

[upbeat spruce]

Can anyone help me with the Mini quest?

[blissful grove]

When did they increase the number of photos from 10 to 50

[rich silo]

tbh even if you do less than 50 it counts as complete
unless they fixed it

[blissful grove]

[solar lark]

5 is close enough to 50, there's just an extra 0 which is nothing

[runic mural]

Will the challenges be reset according to some schedule (like daily quests and Eden) or are they a one-time only thing like seasonal quests?

[tender patio]

probably the latest build

[tiny lintel]

Since there'll definitely be a shared space contest when the season releases, beta players would have more advantage than live players for having more experience before-hand

[nocturne blade]

No one’s gonna beat mine, I’ve got a win secured!
(My nest is just a single pot prop in the center of the room)

[orchid knot]

I'm not participating, I'm tired, I'm done with shared spaces, I'm losing my mind, it's been three hundred years and I just want to finish this 15/15 quest but I have 5 more to place and I've forgotten where I put the other 10, I'm lethargic, my joints are growing weary, thirst, must find water, save me

what's uuuuup my cooldown has ended, next shared space here we goooo

[boreal grove]

Imagine the task of publish 15 shared spaced reduced to like 5

[orchid knot]

Yes please

[echo mauve]

I think itd be allot better to reduce it to five

15 is just. To much. Imo especially as someone who doesnt want to spend candles on getting shared space spells (i need to keep ky 180 candles sobs)

[orchid knot]

4 more to go, I can feel my fingers and toes growing numb, I won't make it to the end

[echo mauve]

Im also not a fan of how the quest kind of forces players to stay on longer. Since placing 15 of these does take a long while with cool downs and what not. I dont like feeling pressured into playing a game longer then id want to so this feels like a very big turn off quest wise... (Will def be feed backing this)

[wicked schooner]

The counter jumps back to zero, if we don’t do it in one session?! I feel physical pain by just thinking about it

[orchid knot]

I think it's meant to be a long term goal and not just grind it in one go but since beta is beta and the counter refreshes if you leave the app there's no way for us to work long term on it, I've been here all morning and I'm losing the will

[nocturne blade]

I already lost the will just looking at the quest, you’re a champ 😭

[orchid knot]

the way I've forgotten where I've put all the shared spaces but I just glanced at valley portal and got a vivid flashback of placing balloons and sparklers mid race 😭

[boreal grove]

It will be fine if it's 15 shared spaces if they reduced the cooldown of the shared spaces itself to be like 10 - 8 mins because jeeezzz, it takes a lot of your free time like 2-3 hrs

[echo mauve]

I feel 10.minuts is still allot usually with daily quests they usually take me less then an hour.

[orchid knot]

5 years. It takes 5. Whole. Years.

[wicked schooner]

I’m too old for this sh… (and if you know where this quote is from, then you are too) 🥲

[orchid knot]

3 more to go, it's only gonna be another 6 months before I'm done

[orchid knot]

By the way 15 shared spells is the equivalent of 225 minutes of cooldown, which is 3¾ hours, if you include all the running around, making the spaces, etc. then this is taking me over 4 hours to do and it's not even the final challenge of this specific tree

[warm ocean]

It wouldn't be so bad if they didn't reset every day. Or is it any time you log out? I wouldn't mind taking a few days to finish it but it's NEVER going to happen if I have to do it all in one go.

[orchid knot]

It's whenever you leave the app, it's probably just a bug

[warm ocean]

I've wasted SO many shared space spells trying to do this thing 😭😭😭

[echo mauve]

thats another major concern that you have to spend a bunch of candles for these to.. like if they gave them to us for free specifically for the quest i think it'd be...allot less bad

[tender patio]

Help
I unlocked one item from furniture store yesterday and my workshop challenge progress was 1/3, today it resets to 0/3
how come?

[orchid knot]

You have to buy it all in the same session without restarting the app - hoping it's a bug

[somber oyster]

As bubba said: I assume too it’s a bug, definitely bug report it!!

In beta especially, unless the devs mention that it’s not a bug, anything that seems weird or unintentional-> bug report!

[balmy tapir]

Considering the numbers on all of the quests, I doubt they expect us to do those in one go. It's just beta being beta

[orchid knot]

Y’all not gonna believe what the final quest is for that challenge tree

Buy 15 props from the shop

[balmy tapir]

Wrow. So that quest is never getting finished

[waxen oyster]

I assume the challenge board is gonna stay after the season. I think the guide says to complete just one of the trees for the season quest

[orchid knot]

Main concerns:
We just bought 3 props for the first challenge but alrighty
We have to wait for prop rotations now, we can’t just buy all the items at once
We probably can’t afford to buy all the items at once anyways
They’re probably gonna charge for the final reward like they have with the mannequin so this is no longer a fun challenge

[balmy tapir]

Is there anything fun about those? With how long they are, I think they expect us to just passively wait for them to complete, because doing it purposefully will equal to 50 pictures of the same wall

[orchid knot]

So to clarify
Workshop challenge:

1. buy 3 props
2. place 15 shared spells
3. buy 15 props
   'Reward': likely to be expensive closet prop

Nesting challenge:

1. place 5 props (iirc)
2. take 50 photos in your nest
3. experience 30 sunsets in your nest
   'Reward': expensive ac mannequin

Friendship challenge:

1. high five a friend in your nest
2. attend a party (5 sky kids chaos)
3. look at 50 shared spaces
   'Reward': ocarina placeholder thing

[balmy tapir]

Attend a house party of five is the middle one in the friendship challenge, I think

[leaden haven]

No first one. Else we would be stuck at view 50 shared spaces for the 1st challenge. Without knowing what challenge 2 and 3 are.

Oh wait now I remember you are right.

1. Is high five friend
2. Party of 5
3. View 50 spaces

[orchid knot]

Oh yes forgor

[covert bison]

Buy 15 props from the shop? You are kidding me 3 was already so expensive #beta-screenshots-videos message

Not possible either because of the small number of items in the shop at one time+progress will probably clear when you log off… how many days of not logging off until the shop shows enough new items to complete it

[orchid knot]

I think the counter being reset between play sessions is a bug, the amount of time it took to finish 15 shared spaces didn't feel like an intended feature for that challenge, so I would imagine it's also not intended for us to buy items all at once.

The challenges seem like they're meant to be long haul ones, which to me is okay, I don't mind gradually hammering away at them, but I don't like the idea of spending so much time and energy (and currency) on completing them all and not really having a reward but more of unlocking a new item to buy. It takes away from the challenge aspect in my eyes and just makes it an added and unnecessary chore to buy items that I like

[covert bison]

A lot of seasonal trees have items on top that cost additional candles or hearts… but this is very expensive and normally those quests don’t cost currency to do and there was already an expensive buy props from the shop quest so I don’t know why they added another one, should be more variety…

I’m hoping the board quests can reset some time after you finish them and then you can earn more hearts from the sides of the trees

[orchid knot]

There seems just a lot more energy and time required for these challenges than there is for usual seasonal quests, and bearing in mind we still have season quests on top of them, at least season quest 3 is completed only after a couple of challenges iirc, but then I wonder how the rest of the season quests will look too

[austere flume]

How is season quest 3 completed?

[orchid knot]

by starting the challenge board

[austere flume]

You must complete any one of those first three options?

[orchid knot]

You have to complete one or two of the first challenges iirc, they're not super difficult by comparison

[austere flume]

Are props in the second path only those which are “Furniture” from the shop? Or do props from the closet count as well?

[covert bison]

I didn’t finish any of the challenge board trees yet but the season quest completed for me this build, last one it didn’t complete. But sadly when I recorded the quest completing I forgot to record with the ui so I forgot exactly what it said. I think it was to do one of the challenge quests and then you could do more for additional rewards

[orchid knot]

Not as far as I remember, I think the purpose of that one is about placing the props in your nest

[orchid knot]

Oh maybe the requirement changed to just start the challenges rather than complete any

[covert bison]

I did do some of the challenges for each just not to the top for any of the 3

[austere flume]

They didn’t finish any trees, they still completed something though.

[orchid knot]

Ohhh I misunderstood, sorry!

[covert bison]

The middle and left lowest quest should be cost free to complete since I remember free furniture in the shop (buy 3 props from shop) middle (place 5 furniture in nest) and the nest gives you some features furniture to work with like shared space spells do (right tree involves friends)

[orchid knot]

Oh I already got the free furniture before the challenges were there

[austere flume]

If shop Furniture must be placed for the second path, players still will have a difficult time completing it because Furniture and props are generally expensive. The cheapest often come from limited time events.
So players are kind of restricted into the last path which needs them to have many online friends they can communicate with at once. Players won’t want to (and shouldn’t need to) spend white candles to proceed in a Seasonal Quest.

[covert bison]

Same here but I’m hoping they will open it once the board quest is available…hopefully

[orchid knot]

I don't think it has to be the workshop stuff you have to place for it to count for the challenge, because we only have to obtain 3 but we have to place 5 so it would make sense it's all props in game, makes it easier on players with less currency

[pseudo cedar]

I highly doubt tgc will do anything about the quests they usually ignore feedback unless it's a massive outcry from the whole player base

[austere flume]

Not all players will have five props already.

[covert bison]

The nest offers some free featured furnitures to place down including the wardrobe so I think it can be done with those.. I did it with a featured fire prop I didn’t own

[austere flume]

I see, then it can be autocompleted or at no cost?

[orchid knot]

but they'll be able to afford some props from assembly sooner than nesting depending on the rotation that day

[austere flume]

It’s true. Which is why I asked before if it only counted shop Furniture or not. I forgot that Assembly is also cheap compared to every other Seasonal prop.

[covert bison]

I believe so yes, I just placed down 5 featured assembly fire pots and it gave me the complete message

[orchid knot]

I wonder how long the wardrobe will last as a featured prop since it appears to be a final prop from the workshop challenge

[lofty crypt]

yk what i'd honestly prefer for this season...? if all the furniture used TICKETS instead of regular currency. that way people wouldn't have to worry as hard about the prices when ts are around the corner, AND it'll just generally be easier to get furniture

[mental dagger]

But thats for events :c

[covert bison]

I posted a photo of the featured furniture for you @/mony

[lofty crypt]

so? they could just have it be a new permanent kinda ticket. like... one you'd get for helping around the shop and stuff (btw i wanna clarify i wasn't trying to be rude by saying 'so')

[covert bison]

Maybe the final quest for the left tree could be to buy a prop from a seasonal spirit tree not the shop (assemble pillow is 5 candles) and if you already did it it can auto complete

[hearty wigeon]

Does anyone else think the price for the final reward in the friends part of the challenge board is far too high? I think it’s an outlandish amount of ascended candles (99 ascended candles). And this season causes a LOT of grinding if these prices are final.
I already submitted feedback on this but I was wondering if anyone else thought it was too much aswell.

[austere flume]

Regardless, it’s all still making the season and shared spaces an uninviting and “difficult” concept. The high price of entry, the usual low return on time invested for a majority of players. How much time is naturally spent in the Nest as compared to the realms? How much time do players naturally spend in shared spaces outside of the workshop/Nest? It’s side content, and players typically need to be “lategame” to make shared spaces that feel complete, comforting, or fun to be in. Shared space designs in the realms are fleeting, the time and effort spent in gathering props for and designing it must be captured or enjoyed through photos and bringing your friends to it before it is erased by the game, and you have to spend to make a new one. Players you don’t know may often be the ones enjoying your effort, and if they don’t comment (only in Beta builds) you’ll never know what the player reception was.

It has never felt cohesive to me.
If you want to make another season about shared spaces (side content), you should lower the bar of entry, but it has only been raised.

[limber nacelle]

New players in the game also won't know what the heck these even are at first unless they play the season I think. Otherwise as soon as they learn of it they'll want things to decorate with, and the sooner they learn of the expensive prices, the more likely they'll put down the game. It doesn't feel fair, at all.

[crisp cedar]

I think the board is a permanent fixture that isn't meant to be completed right away, but something you'll get eventually as you play. It is expensive though.

[hearty wigeon]

Yeah the amount of candles and hearts for this season causes lots of grinding.
Like someone else said, it will make the season not very inviting.

Submitting on this rn

[shrewd cedar]

Season of house

[limber nacelle]

I'm already passing up the season, even the ultimates don't feel worth getting in my opinion. I hate to say this but even if the prices aren't as bad as they were before, they're still needed for these quests and that alone will cost you a fortune.

[hearty wigeon]

Yeah totally. Along with the events that happen and traveling spirits and constellations… It’s wayyy too much.

[cloud ocean]

I hope the “buy X props from the shop” quests change… because it’s just a paywall, not a challenge @@

[limber nacelle]

Basically.

[hearty wigeon]

Sigh

I really do hope they change the prices! This season is an amazing idea and concept.

[limber nacelle]

It's like how Shattering was unfortunately. A good concept of an idea, but not really executed well.

[haughty plume]

As someone who’s played Sky since Flight I’ve never had any interest in obtaining props. I’ve been playing for years and in live I own like… three props, maybe. It’s just not something that I wanted to engage in. So now it feels like because I didn’t know I should’ve been grinding for and hoarding that stuff, I’m kind of at a disadvantage and honestly that kind of stinks

[cloud ocean]

Honestly if it weren’t for the player-made guides, which took almost a year after Shattering was completed to really reach their full potential, I would like the shards even less

[austere flume]

As it stands, this is the first in a line of 10 seasons I won’t participate in because of a misunderstanding of community needs and wants and the scope of certain game aspects. I may quit for the entire duration of the season. Which hurts me.
Despite many experience-ruining bugs, I finally brought several friends to Sky during Revival, and now there’s just one left. I don’t think he wants to play this season either. He doesn’t have any props and has never made a shared space, has no interest in designing a house and just wants to run around realms and play music in beautiful places for others.

[cloud ocean]

Yeah… I already wasn’t excited when I saw this was going to be props-focused, and now with the high prices

[limber nacelle]

Unfortunately, I stand with mony too. It really pains me, because I typically don't mind shelling out money because I know TGC makes great work. This time I'm just not sold on it and I knew eventually this would be a long time coming but it still pains me to say this.

[cloud ocean]

For me, I’ve been looking forward to giving TGC money for a while, and now that I’m able to, they bring the season I’m least willing to spend money in

[hearty wigeon]

Do you guys think it’s too late for tgc to change the prices and make a great season? /genq

[tender patio]

I recorded
the requirement is to "Complete any three challenges from the Challenge Board" so it doesn't have to be from one tree, any 3 out of 9 is okay

[covert bison]

Thank you!

[nocturne blade]

I think this is my first season I’m taking a full on break— normally I don’t play for the two weeks we get between seasons, but the prices are severely demotivating for props as someone who’s been in massive candle debt since Shattering. 😭

I am happy people who love using shared spaces can get that feeling of creating a creative space! But I’m in the same boat, I need a break.

[hearty wigeon]

Does anyone know a ballpark date when season of nesting will come to live? 3 weeks, 4? Is it random?

[limber nacelle]

It's probably for the best for all of us if we're skipping. I know quite a few of us have been playing for a long time and a season like this that has had a concept repeated three times in the form of seasons (excluding events) can really wear us out. So I think maybe with this season and the negativity it is getting so far, is probably just due to old players and new players alike sharing the same concern of prices and hardly any cosmetics from the season. It just seems like lots of people are like me, not sold on the idea because it was not exactly executed in the way we would've thought it'd be executed.

[cloud ocean]

Also I just don’t understand why you have to buy a number of units of a piece of furniture for an inflated price @@ Like, for other props, you just buy it once and put it in as many times as you can fit in your shared space (or with their fixed limit). It’s just such an odd choice

[balmy tapir]

In a lot of my feedback I have been saying that this season is likely to not be received well also because of such a high bar for entry.
It's so odd, not many people like props to begin with, but then they have to make them so expensive too

[tulip veldt]

I dont think the challenge board and the furniture shop is really meant to be considered part of the season, so i dont mind that the thigns are long term goals

[cloud ocean]

Never mind that the coolest props are also behind real money paywalls

[unkempt flower]

Honestly, with the amount of beta testers in here that has talked about the high bar for the prices, it’s irked me more than usual that when staff do poke in or there’s an update it’s never addressing the problem of pricing or when/if they change it (which, I would imagine if you are a beta tester and you’ve already bought it, it wouldn’t be a change you’d see.)
I remember when the plushies in Remembrance were priced so high and there was enough Feedback to change it to reasonable numbers …. Then Passage came around and kept fizzling my hope for TGC understanding price drops are necessary…? Looking at you, 30 heart ball

[cloud ocean]

39 heart ball*

[nocturne blade]

Long term goals are fine! That gives people motivation to play and have something to work towards!

I wonder if they’d be able to make another long-term goal for candle rewards or something…

[jade jetty]

I think there’s also the issue that pretty much every long-term goal just comes down to getting enough candles or hearts

[unkempt flower]

Oh my god, I knew I remembered it being that high but I was in denial to check, that … Hurts.

[limber nacelle]

You would think by now we'd get something like that.

[tulip veldt]

i mean, the thing i feedbacked was that there was no ramp up like regular constallations from cheap -> expensive

[limber nacelle]

I think the most perfect execution of long term goals came down to Elder masks. Sure, they're priced quite high but they do offer SOME use. And I think it's quite hard to make something like an armor system in Sky when it already exists through masks. I would love for Elder clothing to count as a means of armor and at random you would lose one piece of shield at a time, so you could have 3 active shields at once. Though it might be too OP... Hence why the Eden crown needs to come back.

[nocturne blade]

Cooldown
Yeah I can agree with that, that’s also an issue— especially hearts for new players, I know I was in that boat until a few months ago.

[unkempt flower]

I dont at all mean anything I say to be rude or condescending towards TGC, I shell out money on the regular for them because it makes me feel good I’m helping their progress — When Season of Remembrance happened, I wasn’t initially in the server and I remembered Nasty Mold commenting on the prices, I have a feeling her input was what mainly influenced it to change. Primarily because now, I’m not seeing new changes despite the overwhelming amounts of feedback here.

[sage briar]

Yeah, I agree long term goals are really nice it helps with how grindy the game feels. But if there’s still so much limited time stuff you just can’t spend anything on the long term stuff

[nocturne blade]

I gotta get food but I’ll be back 💨

[sage briar]

I’d rather them make like view 50 shared spaces etc without the candles so we can do that overtime and still be able to dedicate our candles to the short term stuff

[covert bison]

The prices are really high. Even though it is possible to do some quests for free and complete the season the prices are still discouraging. I also laughed when the tree was updated to give 1 free shared space spell and said to make 15 of them. then placing that one didn’t save so it was wasted

[glacial raven]

all this talk is making me realize I can't remember the last time I upgraded a friendship. I've been having to save my candles for cosmetics

[sage briar]

Yeah, I have some friends I want to be able to hug or carry etc but I can’t afford things if I spend it on friend trees

[jade jetty]

SAME. I really want to unlock some trees with people but it’s like….i need to save the candles

[austere flume]

For my first nearly two years of playing, it was a struggle to upgrade friendship or send a heart and still get a piece or two of clothing from the Traveling Spirits.

[unkempt flower]

Yeah, at this point, it makes me sad I have such a huge fear of missing out that I’d rather save and hoard my candles for events rather than use them to upgrade friendship tree’s, which hurts to type out and actualize

[balmy tapir]

They want the props and challenges to be permanent additions, but don't really account for how it's going to feel during the season, or for new players.
It's just going to be really discouraging

[limber nacelle]

Something's gotta be done about friendship prices too. You're talking 200+ candles just to upgrade the whole tree.

[glacial raven]

I just left feedback suggesting they increased the daily candle limit to help. adjust for inflation, you know?

[jade jetty]

it’s like inflation, the increased prices don’t match the amount of candles we can get

[austere flume]

It is the basis for most of my feedback. How discouraging it is for such a wide player demographic to begin participating.

[cloud ocean]

Honestly, I just keep getting flashbacks to the Sky Economy post that was like “players get an average of 19 candles in two hours and that’s better than before” but like… that doesn’t mean the current system is good either 😭 that’s still two hours of just getting candles - what about events and hanging out with friends?

[limber nacelle]

That won't ever happen. They stated they don't have any plans to adjust the chevron system.

[covert bison]

It will be interesting to see what the days of color old event tickets items will be priced like…I’m guessing candles which the event currency solved some problems but if it’s candles that’s just more things new players have to save candles to get. I hope sky will raise the candle cap a little maybe by 5 and add a 4th chevron.

[unkempt flower]

YES, it’s good you did! I suggested that a little while back because of this huge blow up in prices. I wagered that maybe the daily can be set regularly to gaining 20 naturally and if you really want to push it, you can get 25. I originally pitched 30 per day, but that’s incredibly wishful thinking on my part, I think

[sage briar]

The currency system isn’t terrible but if you want or need anymore than 15 candles a day it gets really slow and difficult

[cloud ocean]

Also, I just personally get exhausted after a few weeks of constant running. There’s only so many alternate routes I can take each day to keep things fresh…

[jade jetty]

Yeahhhh candle running can really drag on when you’re just doing the same thing over and over again (and generally speaking, I like candle running)

[sage briar]

Yeah I’d also like feasible ways to take a day off because it feels like I have to run 15 candles daily

[glacial raven]

we're not always in a position where we can rely on other players to take us candle running. sometimes we want to use our devices to play other games, or just generally busy

[limber nacelle]

I feel very burnt out on Sky right now and haven't played for 2 days and I used to play religiously every day. Seeing these things in beta has further set me back too. I don't know anymore. I just feel very discouraged from running for candles now because Days of Bloom is going to take everything if I decide to spend on it, so what's the point? They may be back next year but I'm also tired of not getting anything from the first few events of the year like Bloom either.

[sage briar]

I find I start to enjoy sky more when I finished my candle run for the day cause I can enjoy it more and get off and take breaks and not feel like I need to run still. It’s also not as fun after I’ve ran a bunch

[unkempt flower]

Genuinely so real of you to say that, it gets so, so exhausting when it’s the exact same route every day, at a specific time too because any other time would be an inconvenience. I can’t shake up my route like I can with Hidden Forest where you can head to the tree house and work backwards. I did that for a bit, it helped, but there’s no other realms you can shake it up

[tidal willow]

If they have no plans to adjust the chevron system then maybe they shouldn't increase the prices of everything ridiculously high too
Rly hoping they change their minds about this

[glacial raven]

personally I'm going to be limiting how much money I put into the game this year. if I didn't get something in time, oh well

[sage briar]

My friend said that the game runs off fomo and I mean she’s not wrong

[balmy tapir]

I don't understand why the first thought here is to increase the amount of candles instead of decreasing prices tbh

[limber nacelle]

Honestly, as bad as things sound right now, I'm really surprised things haven't been said about the topic of costs and increasing the limit of candles per day by any staff. This has probably been a burning issue for years now and they can only hide from it for so long until the community causes another Cat Hair controversy, or worse.

[unkempt flower]

Not wrong at all, it kind of preys on that idea

[cloud ocean]

my Roman Empire is how they made nerd glasses an ult

[tidal willow]

It's the same concept, I think people think increasing amount of candles you get daily is because we are made to think they're only going to increase the prices
It's either they increase candle amount per day or decrease prices

[glacial raven]

I mean, doesn't facilitating a class divide or at least a system of haves and have-nots kind of go against the message of the game. it's artificial currency, it's totally within their power to affect how players can or can't gain more

[unkempt flower]

Honestly? I’m just glad the chatter about the prices isn’t dying down here and it’s felt mutually between a good amount of folks here. It makes me feel less alone, I think

[glacial raven]

they need to have a return to center, focusing on the social aspect of the game and not just the cash grabs

which is why season of nesting needs to have group quests like assembly--

[cloud ocean]

Yeahhh… this season feels like it’s prime for flexing your stuff rather than a social experience haha

[austere flume]

It may depend on how much money they make off candle packs compared to non-permanent event sales, and needing to pay employees and keep servers up.

[jade jetty]

Yeah, I get that they’re a company and they need to make money, but honestly, if they keep raising prices, I’m more likely to just quit the game than pay for more

[balmy tapir]

I just think that the amount of waxes you can get per day is pretty set, and changing the amount of candles you get would be more complicated and would involve a relook at the whole economy and how that would affect it, and that's harder than to just lower some of the more unreasonable prices

[austere flume]

It’s true, they can’t lose the paying audience and simultaneously lose the interest of new players. Which is another reason why the Season is a risk.

[glacial raven]

why can't we have both though

why can't they have all their cosmetic stuff and cash grabs, but still cater to the larger part of the player base that wants to socialize with their friends.

I want to look nice, but I also want to princess Carry my closest friends. I can't have both with this current system

[tidal willow]

oh yeah for sure, and even if they did try and change it to more candles per day, it would still be inflation, so to fully combat it they HAVE to decrease the prices

[jade jetty]

Also, maybe it’s just me, but I’d be a lot more willing to spend money when I don’t already spend hours grinding. Because the current system just makes me feel like I’m feeding it

[austere flume]

We don’t know if they designed the current prices around being able to keep the game afloat through others buying with real world currency to forgo grinding.

[cloud ocean]

honestly I think they should just decrease the prices of the older TSs and items… like each time they come back, decrease the cost of their stuff

[covert bison]

I think the quest making you buy 15 very expensive items is not good. It’s one thing if the furniture is there like the base game constellation because you can do it at your pace but tying a challenge to buying 15 of them will make people feel more pressured to buy it fast. I have not finished all of the constellations in live because there isn’t pressure or something explicitly telling me to do that (besides elder items) and players might think they have to do it for the season

[austere flume]

The connotation of a challenge is to do it to achieve a reward, possibly with haste. There needs to be communication inside of the game that the challenges are permanent and not all must be completed to progress in the Season.

[somber oyster]

I think that might be a bug, or at least it’s not possible to complete that quest in beta: we need to complete it in one session, but the rotation only shows 4-5 props.

So I’d highly encourage anyone to report the bug, and leave feedback!

A gentle reminder that both prices and the quest themselves aren’t necessarily what is intended for the live game! But I agree, 15 props is a lot

[balmy tapir]

They should revise how friendship trees work sometime, because adding stuff on top and making it gradually pricier is just kind of lazy and makes it pretty inaccessible

[cloud ocean]

Yeah, the costs of the friendship expressions are crazy now

[glacial raven]

I always thought it was weird to put the handshake expression at the very top just because of the chronological order of appearance in seasons. it feels like you should do a handshake before you can do a hug, you know?

I know, but it's just on topic at the moment as well

[somber oyster]

Bugs in beta are expected either way but agreed!

If the Questboard challenges are meant to be “long term goals” then it would be nice if the final rewards weren’t as expensive. We already spend a lot of time and currency completing them (shared spaces, etc), so I personally would prefer the final rewards to be cheaper

Feedback on friendship prices go in #live-feedback instead btw

[limber nacelle]

Unless there's another expensive friendship action in beta.

[austere flume]

Yes, the mannequin is currently 7 perfect Eden runs. Don’t know how to factor red shard attendance into that because it’s so variable.
Completing the already difficult tree and then using up nearly two months of dedicated grinding for one prop item is harsh.

[somber oyster]

Yeah definitely. From a beta testing perspective it’s good that testers are encouraged to try out the same things a million times / interact with the same stuff a lot of times. It’s easier to find bugs that way (like with the elevator or shared spaces).

But from a gameplay / game experience perspective, it would be a lot better being able to complete the challenges by investing time in them, not candles (as in: being given the amount of shared space spells etc needed to complete them). The final reward costing ac / candles / hearts wouldn’t be as bad then!

[ionic pendant]

I really don't think any of the items in the workshop or the quest rewards should cost so many ascended candles. They should take like maybe one Eden run to afford, maybe 2 for something really fancy, imo. ^_^;;

[austere flume]

Well, as it stands, players must invest both time and currency to complete the challenges. They must buy/own furniture and props, buy shared spaces and place them, find spaces across the realms, and/or spend time visiting their Nest at a very precise window of opportunity multiple times. And then spend more currency to earn the rewards.

The placing shared spaces task alone takes multiple hours and 75 regular candles to complete.

[covert bison]

The wardrobe and mannequin are kind of game changer items and I see why they priced it with ac but the rock with candles on it or other items in the work shop should not cost ac in my opinion
I’m too poor in beta to be able to buy and test this stuff

[ionic pendant]

Yeah, way too much, especially since they then charge you an arm and a leg for the "reward" at the end of the quest line. ^_^;;

[somber oyster]

(That said: you can get a free shared space spell daily in beta)

I thiiiiiink personally that might just be a beta thing, to try them all out. I don’t think it would be very new player friendly to have them use 15 shared space spells

[ionic pendant]

Of course devs haven't informed us one way or the other so for testing purposes I would assume what I'm testing is the same or similar to what's intended for live release. ^_^;

[austere flume]

It is only Beta. The only free refreshing spells Live players get is Do Not Disturb (?).

[limber nacelle]

And that's on Mondays only.

[cloud ocean]

And, as a Live player, I forget to pick those up

[balmy tapir]

With how pricy stuff is and how unbudging they seem about it, I just kind of expect them to get it to live like this and get burned, idk.
Beta players are just one perspective, so I wonder how live is going to feel about this in general

[austere flume]

Without communication from development saying that the team plans otherwise for certain aspects, it is what you could expect for the final release, which also doesn’t bode well.

[somber oyster]

Actually, it’s mentioned in every beta update post that you should never assume the content we see is in its final form. This is especially for prices!

[unkempt flower]

Another thing I was thinking is that, if it wasnt intended for release, why even have the prices for Beta testers, those who need it readily available to you know … test… Why wouldn’t they get it lower, even if we’re assuming that? It feels like the high prices are fully intended for Live because of the absurdity of it both ways.

[somber oyster]

Yeah that’s what I said, it’s available in beta! to test things, you can get them for free in beta daily.

Was more of a reminder for everyone

[unkempt flower]

I wanna preface I really hope none of what I said sounded rude, I just … I dunno, it feels like they’d make it easier to get for Beta players to test, but as it is? Why would they price it so high for their testers if it was for testing purposes,,? to get immediate feedback that it’s too high either way..? What’s the point in that or making it harder for both your team and live players

[austere flume]

Alright, I meant that when it hits Live, it will be difficult to complete for a wide player base.

[somber oyster]

No, it’s really not: NOTHING in beta is finalised and quite literally everything we see in beta is a work in progress. Everything can change, and especially prices and quests.

Please don’t consider new content currently tested in beta as if it was something that would ship to live like this.

[glacial raven]

that is a good point. a lower price point in beta would really help more players be able to provide feedback about bugs and other issues

perhaps it could even reduce the amount of bugs that make it out to the live build?

[covert bison]

If they raised it when releasing to live people would be very upset

[austere flume]

I am sorry, it is the implication when several releases occur without change in a particular area that is actively heavily and vocally feedbacked in each iteration.
I am sorry if I misunderstood a certain caveat of Sky beta.

[glacial raven]

as pointed out by the mod above, the prices are not set in stone in beta anyway. what I'm talking about is, taking advantage of that and making it so more beta players can test out more of the beta items

[unkempt flower]

Oh, no no, that wasn’t my point with my comment, it’s more so both what I suggested of making the items more easily obtainable for testing purposes — What I meant is that why in the world would the prices be so high for testers right now if it wasn’t a sneak peek of how the main reaction to them is?

[boreal grove]

I think that idk if they will change the price or not but it's still the same high price in live, maybe because of those old players who save a lot of candles and AC which is never gonna be used.

Which is kinda hate it because some moffs can't finished this within a weeks or so.

[tiny lintel]

This season's quest feels more like a chore than Challenges to complete, and tbh i think the price are definitely a place holder since even i wouldn't believe tgc would be that stubborn or repulsive to nerf it

[unkempt flower]

For now, seeing how it’s going? I really wouldnt just safely assume they’d completely drop it down to better and more reasonable prices, I’d feedback the heck out of it while you still can so at least you know they hear you

[somber oyster]

The feedback channel is meant to be a way for testers to share with the devs how the gameplay made them feel and what their experience was testing the new features.

It can take a few builds to implement the feedback - this is not unusual for beta. Sagomay has furthermore explained that at the moment, the team is looking into multiple possibilities, which likely means that we will see multiple iterations and versions of the currency needed to buy the furniture from the workshop.

This means that it can take time for us to see changes, or to see our feedback implemented

[tiny lintel]

Did any1 feedback this when the forgotten ark q&a was going on? Just wondering

[sage briar]

Wait that’s an ult 😭

[balmy tapir]

I think the point is that if it does go to live like this it's going to be quite unfortunate. I do hope that it'll change

[glacial raven]

there's about a month or so before the next version should make it to live. I hope that's enough time, and that the devs don't have to crunch to make the changes they want

[austere flume]

There are only three-four weeks(?) until shipment, so I hope it is enough time for a radical change if necessary while also working out the cross-session save issues that make the challenges entirely nonfunctional, and the price concerns.

[somber oyster]

I agree with that, I’m hoping to see more meaningful ways of interacting with the social spells, rather than mindlessly placing spaces across the realms just complete a challenge

[unkempt flower]

I’m so sorry friend, I’m afraid I’m not the right person to ask about this - I wasn’t one of them, nor am I a beta tester, I just have beta testing experience from other games on different platforms to add to this debate is all! I hope folks did though.

[willow eagle]

Ever since they completely remove IAPs price in beta it's harder to negotiate price. I still don't undertstand why did they do this

[somber oyster]

(And tbh I’m also very broke lol! So I’m also hoping I’m able to buy some rugs and other nice props without needing to grind for months on end)

[covert bison]

So what do people think about the rotation system in the work shop they added where only a few items are available to purchase and a thing on the bottom says it will change in some amount (4?) days?

It’s less overwhelming to look at but I think it will be hard for people to know when the item they want will come and be able to save the necessary amount for it

[tiny lintel]

I hate how when something is blatantly obvious that it needs fixing and tgc still let it slide and only fixing it when it comes to live

[glacial raven]

think of it like this: you are test driving a car, and TGC is the mechanic. certainly we can provide feedback about the handling and acceleration, but TGC is the only ones who really know what's going on under the hood

if a change is going to take longer than the driver hopes will happen, then it's going to take a while for the mechanic to get things done. and sometimes that means that an update with a bug gets pushed out to live before you see the fix in beta

and I would rather drive a car that needs minor repairs, than that might explode. I'm more than happy if they take their time (and if spacing out seasons would give them the time they need, I wouldn't argue about that either)

[balmy tapir]

I'll be honest, my live acc is grossly rich, but I'm just honestly really uninterested in all of the props, and them being so expensive just makes it worse. A 80 candle rug? Not really a steal

[austere flume]

Well, the base game constellations and seasonal guides’ extra items are all permanently viewable. But what they offer is also much less expensive compared to the total amount in the Furniture workshop, while Furniture simultaneously provides less value or function to a wider player base. I think rotating the purchasable options is a bandaid solution to prevent players from being overwhelmed by the costs and number of items, especially for completionists.
But many players can easily look up guides to see the Furniture. Yes, players who want to see all the options within the game easily cannot, and must wait an arbitrary amount of time for (and possibly miss) the item they want.

[willow eagle]

im okay with it, a lot less intimidating but personally i just want the bulk furniture option to be gone, and maybe replace it with a system that let you choose how much you want to buy a furniture (like a slider). But that take more time to make so i think they should just let people buy thing unlimited time like beta tickets

[cloud ocean]

it is a steal. stealing from the player

[sage briar]

I agree with this, I recently did remembrance. And I wasn’t really focusing on what I was making just getting it done

[glacial raven]

sorry, I replied to the wrong message

[willow eagle]

Now thinking about it. maybe divide furniture to category stand wouldn't sound like a bad idea. I think it would let player see what they want to buy in-game immediately and they won't have to rush when their furniture are on sell at the moment.
Maybe 2-3 shop stand for bathroom, living room and bedroom items?

[austere flume]

It’s my speculation that there is/was a third category arriving in the props closet section, but we haven’t seen it yet, or it may just not work at all.

[crisp cedar]

I think if a lot of testers mention the price, things may change. They ended up changing form exclusively hearts to other forms of payment for the items, so there's hope.

I do get the burn out part. Sky is all about grinding. I remember in Live I reached a point where I'd just get what I think looks nice during a season, but nothing else. So the fomo aspect died for me, but I still had fun. If you're not into props, then it may cause others to have their fomo die even faster. Do I get a prop, or do I just focus on days of nature and cinnamoroll? I think it's up to each tester to figure that out themselves, but it would be nice if the prices were a bit cheaper....then again, Sky gave us free housing so the mortgage payments seem to be coming from the props.

ps. I just ordered a pizza and won't be able to eat it for another four-ish hours.

[willow eagle]

Honestly for props that isn't wearable and just server as nesting-only, i hope most of the furniture once come to Live will only range from 10-30 candles

[glacial raven]

you have no idea how much I was looking forward to just placing a random stove out in the forest. but alas...

I wanted to capture the real hiking experience, finding abandoned appliances in the woods

[willow eagle]

honestly i would love to do that too , portable prop closet when

[tiny lintel]

The furniture prices asides since they can be change, i think tgc forgot why they put high prices at the first place: The REASONABLE prices for free cosmetics while promoting candle run to have an on-going point in Sky (this part might sound vague but you get the point). Like-wise, The higher prices in ts are suppose to be a fair cost for ppl who wasn't around when the season was active to buy the pass . Similarly to limited/events cosmetics, it's a way to show their rarer values plus makes players feel more rewarding after hard works of farming

But now, things are high for no apparent reason, and sometime the cosmetics isn't even good enough for it to be that high

[last crown]

The pricing of furniture makes me feel like part of the impetus for creating this whole new mode of gameplay was to help keep veterans engaged— like the elder masks.

With the masks, you need to unlock elder hair in Eden before seeing that they even exist so obviously you’re already invested in the game. In that case, it’s motivational, they give you something new to work for.

With the furniture, however, it’s available to the general public of newcomers and occasional players who aren’t as invested in the game. (Like, are they even going to know what ascended candles are?)

Seeing those prices and encountering the challenges necessary to complete the season will be an incredible turnoff.

Thinking about it, this is the first season I’ve seen where completing it is nearly impossible for newcomers to achieve. They can’t buy props to complete the third quest challenge, they’re too busy spending candles on chat benches to ask if other players are real or NPCs.

If I were them, starting this game during this particular season, I’d come away with the understanding that seasons in this game aren’t worth investing my time in. It’s almost like the season itself— just the quests!— are behind a paywall.

[spiral needle]

Skybrah's fun fact of the day: 8 hours of sneep snorp a day keeps Dark Dragons away

[dry haven]

Truth I have sent feedback I hope many people send request to make it cheaper or raise our daily candle limit, something needs done 😭

[glacial raven]

all very good. I highly suggest you share your thoughts in the beta feedback channel so it reaches the developers... via the proper channel, as it were

[tiny lintel]

Yesss it's weird how quests are related to payment as now it feels forced 😭

They literally makes us pay rent

[glacial raven]

T(omNook)GC?

[tiny lintel]

Idk if tgc minds reading an essay on why a couch shouldn't cost 180 AC

[glacial raven]

I'm of the opinion that you should submit an essay on why a couch should not cost 180 ascended candles, what was in the stars to lead them to that idea of a placeholder?!

[glacial raven]

bottom line, I think beta feedback should include feedback about the prospective prices for when it gets pushed to live. yes everything right now is not finalized, but we can provide feedback of suggestions for the live prices

[willow eagle]

unrelated to the current topic here; i hope we get a functional curtain someday, i want to block out the sunlight in my nest

[last crown]

Haha and all I want is more light, artificial or otherwise!

[willow eagle]

it would be cool if we could change our nest layout as well, more windows please

[tiny lintel]

I have an idea that props can "compensate" to each other
Basically, a prop can be deleted to add up the amount of usage for other props

If you think prop spam can fry up sm1s phone, it would just be a fps prob like most graphic redesigns lol

[mortal ivy]

Is it just me or is this season's quest tree short - it makes me wonder if this season is a two-parter with two development processes for our avairy and we would be getting two/multiple guides possesing the cosmetics for season.

[crisp cedar]

I just finished the sunset quest. If you haven't done it yet, it's sunset in aviary.

[heavy plover]

I feel like this game is becoming harder for newcomers. As the game became bigger there is a lot more content but all of this content is available for new players and they become overwhelmed. They are confused with all the seasonal spirits around and are not able to finish the base game constellations. All of these different events costing a lot of candles. 10 different currencies. Aviary not being connected to the other realms and asking new players to finish it's quests by finishing old seasonal quests. And now these extremely expensive props. It's just making the game harder to get into. We will be able to get the seasonal props. But moths who come after nesting won't have much to decorate their nests with. I know current moths are discouraged to continue playing.

[ionic pendant]

Oh! I didn't mean to say I was assuming the prices and such were definitely the final ones for live, but I have to assume that they are things they're considering for the live release and send feedback for them under that assumption because I don't have any other intel to go on. ^_^; Sorry if that convo was long past, I was pinged and I just got on my next break at work.

[forest mica]

I personally have to disagree with some of the things you've said. New players don't get bombarded with everything all at once. New moths start off in the Aviary village with the first three quests being a tutorial and the 4th one letting you embark on the rest of sky. Seasonal spirits are not available for new moths until they complete Eden for the first time, and while it is true that many moths don't know the location of every single base game spirit, that was supposed to give the player more encouragement to explore every nook and cranny of the various realms, otherwise the game would be too easy and be way more short of content and would make players bored of the game after the first run. The whole point of a game is to keep the player hooked, and give them a reason to keep playing, be it farming currency, or collecting spirits/seasonal spirits or winged lights. Aviary village is a hub, and it has the various realm portals, so it is connected to them + the "complete the Aviary quest by completing past seasons" only unlocks after the 4th quest ( events also unlock only after completing the 4th quest ) , and it's a way of introducing new players to past seasons that they might've not even known the existence of until that point. As of the "10 different currencies" that is actually way better than you think, since many players in the past ( me included ) have been lamenting of the high candle and hearts prices for event cosmetics, TGC came up with Event currencies to avoid players wasting all their savings on overpriced cosmetics. The only issue there currently is, is the overpriced furniture in the Nesting shop, but this is beta everything is subject to change and nothing is official yet, so there's still a chance of the prices being lowered to a more newbie-friendly level

[sweet viper]

Hi, quick question: am I the only one that can't finish the last quest for nesting challenge: nest or everyone can't finish it? I saw 30+ sunset already and it still show 0/30

[crisp cedar]

It worked for me. Maybe try closing the game and restarting.

When you saw the sunset, did it say 8/30 sunsets? Or count it down whenever you went to your nest?

[lofty crypt]

i'm genuinely so glad people aren't ok with the high prices anymore, cause i've had issues with em' ever since they all only costed HEARTS

[sweet viper]

No, mine did not show anything when I saw the sunsets, and I did restart the game. Thank you telling me though.

[crisp cedar]

If you didn't see something like (7/30 sunsets) then yea, it wouldn't work. Hopefully it works soon for you. But once it does, you'll be able to complete it fairly quickly.

[warm ocean]

My publish shared spaces quest still isn't working, or it's resetting whenever I log out. There's no way I'm going to be able to make 15 in one sitting with that cooldown.

[orchid knot]

You can do it if you have at least 4-5 hours to spare, it takes 225 minutes of cooldown for all 15 spells, if you add on the time it takes to run around and make the spaces it can take over 4 hours (I did it earlier today, it was not a good time after the first couple of hours )

To clarify, the refreshing of the counter between play sessions is likely a bug so best to report if you haven't!

[orchid knot]

I left feedback just now but I was thinking it would be more fun if they gave us less shared space requirements but gave us themes for each of them - it would feel a lot more like a challenge in that way than just slapping down random items when you get bored of making them

[covert bison]

I like this idea. They could give you a free spell and a theme each day to make it more meaningful and more thought in creating it

[rich silo]

can I also say how fun it is when you want to kick everyone out of your house you just pull the lever kronk

[rich silo]

oh I agree with the theme, there could be a section in aviary for that like the shared memory diamond going on
it would definitely give more ideas for peeps to work from rather than it being tucked away in a building

[rich silo]

actually...I've been able to complete quest 3 without buying any new props
because your nest would have featured props you can put down

I did it by doing the place 5 props, taking 50 photos, then high fiving in nest

if anything, all the [Nest] challenge ones are doable solo without friends
list of challenges by bubba: #beta-season-test-chat message

[white flax]

I have a question. For the mini figure, if I place it down and someone comes along to try the outfit of my mini figure, can they still wear it even if they don't have the cosmetics?

[orchid knot]

no it only puts the items on that you own

[white flax]

Ah, that's a shame then

[rich silo]

You do end up permanently wearing the outfit and need to manually swap out of it after so
It's not a temporary item dress up

[last crown]

You were able to complete the third seasonal quest without buying three props?

As I remember, the only challenge on the board that’s available at first is that one, but maybe I missed something.

[rich silo]

Yeah because when the challenges first got introduced, pressing any of the buttons made my game crash so I was literally unable to do anything at all until a recent build, and by then the timer had run long enough to unlock the other quests to let me try them

That said, the trees still make my game crash but a little later

[last crown]

Ohhhh okay that’s amazing.

[spiral needle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/593565781166391316/832872714967842826/Untitled90_20210416150354.png

[white flax]

Check #beta-known-issues

[crisp cedar]

If someone is wearing the cinnamonroll outfit and uses the mannequin, would you be able to keep your fit without using spells?

[brave tangle]

I doubt since again you dont have those items

[rich silo]

I tried that
the items stay on the mannequin but since you don't own them, you don't put them on after pressing the WIP button

EDIT: just realised, it was actually for the figurine but I think it would also apply to mannequin tbh

nothing is final until it's in #news as always~
none of the cinnamoroll EC stuff will be in beta for obtainment either so same story

[zealous charm]

#beta-screenshots-videos message wait the ult pants are actually really nice omg

TGC stop making nice ult pants that I’ll add into my rotation

[tidal willow]

I've grown to like the ultimate pants a lot They make me look like an artist in game with the little pencil accessory too

[ionic pendant]

I love that there's a little pencil sticking out of the upper pocket of the ult pants' apron too. ^_^

[brave tangle]

Hm i kinda wish we could place more of the ultimate figurine in nest, like it would be nice if we could save down more of our favourite outfits not just one… and i wanna make my friends in figurines and put them in my nest
What do you guys think will they change on the amount we can put in nest?

[orchid knot]

I wish we could visit friends and just drop our own figurines off like hello friend here's a mini me to keep you company

[brave tangle]

Awwww thats a cute idea tbh xd

[rich silo]

lowkey I'm just imagining come live when your friends also have their figurines you can just have like D&D session with your figurines running around everywhere and someone dresses up as the monster
WAIT THAT'S LITERALLY MY NEST RIGHT NOW I JUST REALISED-

[cosmic vine]

had that exact topic come up somewhere else yesterday
the simple need to have your skykid ocs hold hands inside your nest should and must be fulfilled, tgc please

[brave tangle]

OMG YES I DIDNT EVEN THINK ABOUT OCS even more reason to have multiple placable figurines

[hushed crane]

There hasn't been any news as to when the season of nesting will be arriving to live right?

[glacial raven]

!spoilers - per skybot's message below, you got to wait
wait I use the wrong command

[spiral needle]

Server spoiler rules have changed. They now only include:

• Beta content is not allowed outside beta channels, even with spoiler tags. (This includes beta content that is not live or not meant to be accessible)

[glacial raven]

!wafo - Wait And Find Out

[spiral needle]

🧇 Beta testers don't know when things will happen in Beta or Live Any Beta announcements will be made in ⁠#beta-announcements, and Live announcements will be made in #news!

[hushed crane]

Understood

[bleak mural]

generally seasons take two weeks to arrive after one ends now, so the most likely date is april 15th, but nothing's for sure until we know from TGC!

[hushed crane]

Ah

[zealous charm]

I have every desire to create scenes of my Sky OCs together, and also if TGC ever gives us elder outfits… I wouldn’t be opposed to making elder minifigs in my nest

on that note, I hope TGC is ready for an essay on elder outfits later

[brave tangle]

For real 🥹🥹 i just wish they would make it possible to place more then one it fr doesn’t make sense not to 😭

[high atlas]

I feedbacked as well that I want multiple. I want to place my ocs like figurines that my skykid collects

[rich silo]

I think I've been spending too much time building I just got the third dream in a row that the prop count increased for placement and I know that's not true

[cobalt glade]

Is the figurine the ult?

Argh I'm too lazy to fully get it on beta and I don't care for much of the rest of the season enough to get the pass for live

The figurine is the only thing I truly want from it tbh

[prime umbra]

Sky x sims

[calm jetty]

Has anybody else been able to complete the “view 30 sunsets in your nest” quest because I have been sitting in my nest all day today and it still says 0/30?????

[ionic pendant]

Cy pointed out the guide's pencil cup and now I really want it for the desk in my nest. Fingers crossed for it being added to the shop or the guide's tree at some point.

[rich silo]

I did when it was first available
you have to just leave and enter your nest 30 times in the same play session, not just sit in there

[crisp cedar]

Go up to your nest, then go outside. Go back up to your nest, then outside. Keep doing this until you get 30/30. It shouldn't take too long to do.....it just feels tedious, since you have to do this all in one play session.

[calm jetty]

Thankyou sm 🥲 I guess I learned the hard way lol

[hearty wigeon]

Imagine If your nest went through rain cycles throughout the day…. Imagine rain mixed with sunset lighting… Midday lighting.. Night lighting!! (Already submitted feedback and you guys can submit feedback too on this if you want :3)

[rich silo]

so I'm building a giant sword-

[hearty wigeon]

Cy, you always amaze us with what random stuff you always make

[rich silo]

god what would be a better guard
two chairs or a singular sofa

[naive jacinth]

Chairs maybe?

[rich silo]

yeah going with chairs because the sofa is good but it would be equally bulky as the blade rn

oh....the mannequin can't be rotated it's a fixed orientation good to know
was gonna use that as the handle

[naive jacinth]

To the topic about cup with pencils.
I was recently thinking about two carpets in a store. Which are orange, small and large at the entrance. I know we have enough carpets already, but these are orange and would go with the seasonal items--.
I also looked at the curtain by the window. I WANT CURTAINS TOO.
They cozy....

OMG CY THIS SWORD SO COOL

[rich silo]

SDLKFJKLASDF THANK YOU
I'd be more powerful if I bought the shelf but alas
THEN I could have flying swords either side of me and I'd be triple blade wielding

[rich silo]

if tgc won't give me the wasteland swords I'll have to make my own

[naive jacinth]

Looking at the new rotation... Not only does the "buy 3 items" task require a lot of currency, but there are only 2 items in the rotation and you have to wait a week to see 3 items. (maybe! and maybe there will be 2 again). Although, most likely, in the final build it should not be completed in one session.

[rich silo]

the 30 AC bookshelf is pretty cheap tbh
but that minecraft stack of candles for 4 chairs...now that's painful

[stable wasp]

Does it rain in the nest

Then I’ll just photoshop pfp to look like its raining

[rich silo]

SS expired without me being able to read any of the new comments cuz it's bugged

...time to build a new one 🏃

[open sparrow]

It would be very cozy to sit in our nest while it drizzled outside

[stable wasp]

I sent that as feedback

Please do the same
If we do it enough
Then our wish will come true

[open sparrow]

I did so as well earlier I also thought it would be neat if rain was added to the weather cycle in Aviary itself, particularly during days of bloom (now that we have rain that doesn't hurt us)

[weak monolith]

Just had a quick question.. does the next season not have any cosmetics at all? (Aside from the 2 ult ones)

[stable wasp]

Please not just during days of bloom
Regularly it should happen

[ionic pendant]

There's a hairstyle, a cape, and a head accessory that are not ults. ^_^

*So far, everything is subject to change.

[rich silo]

if you look up potato beta log you'll see the rest of the stuff

[weak monolith]

Do you guys think there’s gonna be more? Or just those 5

[rich silo]

it's a season of interior decorating so there won't be anymore than the 4 tbh
the second ult isn't really a cosmetic, it's still decoration

[ionic pendant]

It doesn't seem likely that there'll be more cosmetics at this point but I think the ones we got are pretty nice. ^_^

[weak monolith]

Wow, unfortunately way too late to give feedback about that now but im honestly pretty disappointed.. for those who arent interested in housing Theres basically 60 days of nothing

[rich silo]

always good to take a break from the game if need be

[weak monolith]

I mean i just came back from a 1 year break (phone couldnt handle the game anymore) so😭

[ionic pendant]

There'll be events overlapping that have cosmetics too anyway. ^_^

[rich silo]

the cinamoroll one and nature yis

[weak monolith]

Yeah thats true, im loving the cinnamoroll stuff its sooo so so cute

[rich silo]

yeah cinnamoroll event is very cosmetic heavy so far

[weak monolith]

And i guess if i do the dailies I’ll atleast get ~300 extra candles at the end of the season

How many new cosmetics did days of nature get again?

[austere flume]

4 - Scarf (Neck) and Mask for IGC, Hairstyle and Cape for IAP

[weak monolith]

Ohh right! Gotcha. And theres quite a few old ones i dont have yet so ill be able to get a few from there :3

[ionic pendant]

Our dress up cravings will be sated regardless, no worries. ^_^

[rich silo]

I think it's a good break because 9cd added so many outfits it was insane

[ripe schooner]

[rich silo]

@oblique zenith there are no spirits this season other than the guide
to access season go into aviary, it's opposite the cosmetic closet just head into the doorway by the sign with the key pendant symbol on it

[oblique zenith]

I dont see that though, i guess i need to have aviary village finished in order to play this season? Uuf

[next stirrup]

por favor eu quero o link do Sky beta eu nunca tive a chance de joga

[rich silo]

the server is unable to support all languages so you'll have to use english
read #beta-faq for the information on how to access beta. They will issue invites when more testers are needed.

[covert osprey]

Are there still no cosmetics for the next season in beta 😟

[orchid knot]

We have ult pants, a cape, hair, and a pencil hair accessory

[somber oyster]

#beta-screenshots-videos message About social spells being visible in the Nests: this is a beta known issue.

This means the devs are aware, and will be working on it. No other bug reports needed!

[orchid knot]

crabubba will keep everyone company in the meantime

[stable wasp]

What about rain in the nest
Plz add rain in the nests

[somber oyster]

That’s something for the #beta-feedback channel!

[stable wasp]

I put it there
I’m waiting for a response saying rain will be added

[waxen oyster]

Rain is a great idea!

[stable wasp]

Then go ahead. Put it in the feedback channel.

[proud raptor]

Can someone please help me out with the high five quest in the nest?

[hearty wigeon]

They don’t respond to your feedback saying that your feedback will be added btw

[crisp cedar]

Has anyone checked to see how many players can be in the same nest in one time?

[sullen blaze]

I need help with that too
You can dm me with a friend code if you'd like!

[proud raptor]

Done

[lusty flax]

if you ever need help with anything else in beta that requires players, check out #beta-looking-for-group

[proud raptor]

Thank you !

[hushed crane]

Are the underwater shards going to come during days of nature?

[hearty wigeon]

Does anyone else feel like our nest should automatically light all the candles in it upon entry?

[fresh carbon]

yeah I agree! I keep having to light them xD

[haughty plume]

It's probably good exercise (because running across the entire known world every day isn't already enough cardio)

[hearty wigeon]

If you guys want you can submit feedback on this matter since I did aswell :>

[open sparrow]

I think having to light them upon entry feels more realistic, like coming home after a long day to relax

[rich silo]

I think it's just the usual max 8 player server

[rich silo]

No because some interior design requires no lights on or it's for cinematic effect to turn it on yourself
It would be a pain to have them all light up automatically (I've had this issue a lot just having my workshop SS builds automatically flame on and I'm like THAT'S NOT THE VIBE)

[hearty wigeon]

Ooooor there could be a toggle on the crystal!

[rich silo]

Mmm
I still think it's like
Like if sky ran on electricity then sure but we have fire and whatever magical orb and it feels weird that flames don't go out when you leave them alone for long periods of time (I'm just thinking of world building logic)

So like if you return to your nest pretty much you haven't been there in a while so the lights being on would be like who the heck came in and stole my stuff

If you wanted stuff lit all the time there's plenty of items that aren't flame based to do that
That said, them nerfing enchantment orb to 2 is abysmal

[orchid knot]

I don't really mind lighting them when I go in, but I wish when I did it they would be lit for my visitors because I want them to come into a homely feel and not have to go light them all themselves when I just did it before they arrived

[pale agate]

I became a beta tester but it won't let me download the beta :(

[orchid knot]

there haven't been any new invite waves so I'm not sure how you became a tester, but that will be why you can't download it - just keep your eye on #beta-signup-info for official news on when beta is open for new testers

[pale agate]

Oh so I'm dumb. I see, thanks

[orchid knot]

Not dumb! if you want to learn some more about the invite process you can read through #beta-faq in the meantime

[pale agate]

Oh oke

[maiden basin]

I bought the 99 AC mannequin but it's not in my prop wardrobe, should I report it or was it removed?

[hearty wigeon]

Not answering your question moon, but 99 ASCENDED CANDLES WHATTTTTT?!!! :,)

[pale agate]

99. That's a lot

[orchid knot]

As far as we've seen the furniture doesn't appear as regular props in our closets (apart from the figurine ult from the guide)

At this point I'd guess it's intended they only appear when we're placing shared spaces or are decorating our nest, however I could be wrong!

If you think they should be in the closets then you can leave feedback about it.

Also 99ac could be a placeholder, but it also might not be, so if you feel any type of way about it you can feedback that too!

[rich silo]

It's only placeable in shared spaces right now, not accessible outside of it

I somehow don't think 99 AC is a placeholder, the price is pretty reasonable to me

[maiden basin]

Ahhh makes sense since I didn't try to look for it when making a shared space.

I got 25/30 sunsets and did what you say about going directly to the Guide and it marked it as complete and when I noticed the prop wasn't added I was like "Oh no, Guide found out I tricked them "

[rich silo]

yeah when I first got it, that was the second thing I thought of because so many of the new props aren’t accessible except when you open up a shared space
pretty much the only placeable thing you can have right now is the ult figurine

[tulip veldt]

i gather look at shared spaces still not workin ?

[ionic pendant]

99AC for a mannequin that I can't even put pants on still sounds too high to me. ^_^;

[rich silo]

but you can put on 4 other item types and change the cape through stance

[runic mural]

Has there been any words from the devs regarding the props not being present in our closet so we can't wear them on our backs?

[ionic pendant]

That's neat but it's still an incomplete mannequin that I'll have already had to do side quests for. ^_^; I don't like going to Eden a ton so 99AC feels like a lot.

[rich silo]

you can still slowly gain the amount through red shards

[orchid knot]

I think unless you grind for ac it's never gonna feel like a good deal

[rich silo]

which is a big population of players yeah, that's true

[ionic pendant]

That's true, I was hoping to get the forest elder mask eventually though and I'm only at 170AC (in live of course). I'm not super gung ho about that goal but there's already a few pieces of furniture in the workshop that might set me back too (if they also stay the price they are in beta). I also often can't catch the red shards' timing because I work full time and end up playing Sky in the last couple hours before reset. ^_^;; Oh well, I probably won't pursue the mannequin at all since I'll get the ult figurine. I just figured if it sounds unreasonable to me then it'll be unreasonable for a lot of other players too.

[rich silo]

yeah getting to 250 AC was....
it definitely feels like pulling teeth at that point (I didn't have this experience in live when forest elder mask came out, but doing it again in beta was an Experience™️ cuz I was double eden running live and beta)
so my perspective is a bit skewed cuz anything over 200 is hell but anything under is like oh wow that's easy

[ionic pendant]

Lol, that sure is some dedication. XD I'm sure if I was on that weekly AC grindset all the time it wouldn't seem so expensive to me either. XD

[orchid knot]

It's worth sharing your thoughts with tgc, there's bound to be a lot of people the prices feel unreasonable for and of course not all play styles are the same, I think the whole point is these items are permanent (I'm assuming the ones from challenges are too, big sobbing if they're not lol) so they're things to work towards over time, but it doesn't mean the prices right now are something everybody will enjoy and your opinions on them are valid!

[ionic pendant]

Oh yee no worries! I have sent feedback already! ^_^

[rich silo]

I am also the weird outlier who has pretty much 1400 AC in live so I'm here like
like I've been through the grind, I get it
but also I've noticed that I get through every 100 at a fairly reasonable pace so I look at it like you can still quite reliably build back up
and if you've played for a long time, those perma wing buffs really help so you don't need to WLR as much, and eden is WAY easier at lower wedges now since they fixed it

[orchid knot]

I think it just falls back on grinding though, like you enjoy shards of course and they're helpful sprinkles of ac every now and again, but you also frequent eden often, to me that's not something I enjoy and it loses it's meaningfulness the more you run through it just for ac which is why they included shards as an option too with shattering (as well as the other changes they made to give eden a refreshing emotional value that it was missing after x amount of years) but having items come along that are once again expensive in ac just encourages the grinding aspect again

I guess it's something we'll never get away from and it's always up to the player what we invest time in of course, but it's hard when you want a thing and it turns out to be a lot of any currency

[rich silo]

[insert nod emote]

[orchid knot]

Okay looking at mannequin photos I'm thinking it won't be a pants typa deal anyways, if we want pants on it we might have to end up with a creepy runaway mannequin which I absolutely don't want so this mannequin is better

[rich silo]

it would basically be like you have a skid sized doll in your house and that's creepy as heck

[orchid knot]

don't worry that's just timothy my emotional support mannequin 😭

[rich silo]

bubba
bubba where's their face
bubba where'd their face go-

[delicate echo]

I don't get the season Shop. Are we getting different few items every week? Will it stay like that? Can someone pls tell them to add carpets back 😭😭

[short kiln]

From what I’ve been seeing, the items are just rotating every few days! They’re permanent items so the carpets won’t be gone forever, you just have to wait for them to come back into rotation

[bleak mural]

oh the cafe gives 50 free daily wax now! the prompt is very much bugged and out of bounds, but you can still get it somehow

[radiant coral]

Do you guys reckon this pass is worth it this time round? Previously I got the moments and coloured deer passes but skipped revival because it was terrible, I don’t know a whole lot about the new pass yet and wondered if you guys think it’s decent or not

[rich silo]

it's like 90% furniture so if you're not into that then you can just skip
the second ult is a mini figurine of your skid that copies your outfit and other people who own the items on it can put it on

[high atlas]

I personally am in love with the season, but it all comes down to preference. I'm excited about making my house, but some people aren't a big fan of mainly prop seasons

[limber nacelle]

Like me for example. I just hope we get to build more things in the future season quests.

[hearty wigeon]

Same here!

Wouldn’t it be cool if we could have shared apartments?

[high atlas]

I personally like my own nest being a private space, but it would be awesome to build with others sometimes

[delicate echo]

I don't like creating shared spaces and i wasn't really into the season but somehow i spent hours decorating my home

[high atlas]

I don't even care for shared spaces, but something about this being my own home just made me feel so cozy

[delicate echo]

Nah for me it's the challenge. I gotta make this place look perfect
no pressure though just for fun

[rich silo]

I was into it from the start but the prop variety wasn't big enough for me to do much with it so I ignored it for ages but like
new props + comments section really helps motivate me to create more

[hearty wigeon]

What are you guys looking forward to most with the new season? /genq

[rich silo]

well now that dancing performer is announced, that's my last TS so the new props are my new goal to aim towards

[hearty wigeon]

oooo is dancing performer the orange one with the hat?

[high atlas]

Really just building the house. I don't even care about the rest of the season, I am attached to my nest

[hearty wigeon]

Same

[high atlas]

It's gotten to the point, in live, if I enter aviary, I sometimes autopilot to where the nests are. Then I get confused and remember it's not beta

[hearty wigeon]

SAMEE
I’m in my nest so much

[orchid knot]

I'm excited to see all my friends nests in live if they'll invite me round! It'll be really wonderful to see what I can come up with there too since I have a lot more props over in live, and seeing how I can combine them with the newer items

[rich silo]

I can build a way bigger castle

[cold spindle]

I’m tempted to just break the wall on my left to expand my nest, I want to build a kitchen island-

[high atlas]

You bet I'm inviting you Bubba, as well as the rest of my friends gonna skidnap y'all to have a house party

[rich silo]

/places decoy fox plush/

[orchid knot]

all the house parties!!

[cold spindle]

Cy tbf ur pfp is a lamp, you should place a lantern instead-

[rich silo]

oh there's plenty of lanterns as is in my builds

[rich silo]

I also recently found out that I can actually sign my builds with the fire prophet sticker cuz I can curve them in a way to spell 'cy'

[past robin]

THAT is super cool!!!

[rich silo]

(it's on the roof of the carriage if you spot it)
(be warned the bloom sucks but look at it from the side)

[ancient dome]

just a question - what items will cost ascended candles in the new season? are they time limited collab items?
i'm just wondering if i need to start doing eden again in order to have enough, i heard the items cost more than elder masks

[rich silo]

• unknown since they currently rotate 2-6 items each time (prices have been shuffling)
• they will be there permanently, they are not a collab.

as far as I'm aware the last time I looked at it
there are some items that are as high as 65 AC in rotation, they range around 24-65 (don't quote me on this, it's changed since then)
then there's the 99 AC mannequin at the top of the [Nesting Challenges: Nest] tree
and the last I saw the price of the closet dresser at the top of [Nesting Challenges: Workshop] it was 180 AC

the closet dresser is free to use in the workshop SS + your nest as a featured item though

[ancient dome]

do they do anything or are they cosmetic for decorating rooms?

[wise ice]

I hope they will reduce the pricing before it gets in live even though they are rotating it is still very expensive

[rich silo]

the mannequin does this: #beta-screenshots-videos message
(scroll down from the message, I posted a bit more too)

[rich silo]

all the chairs are sittable and there's an on/off button for the seasonal lighting items! (branch + tall light)
there's also a sleep button for the bed

the ult figurine will copy your outfit and anyone else who owns the items on the mannequin can put them on by pressing a button over it

the closet dresser is a compact version of the regular ingame closet of all the categories, just as a singular item

[ancient dome]

neat stuff. i guess it's a sink for candles if you're done trying to get the size you want.

[rich silo]

it's also something to do because they haven't added new AC items in a long time unless you just use your AC on EC

[covert mural]

@rich silo @rich silo

[lusty flax]

hmmm

[bleak mural]

hmmmmmmm

jokes aside, am I the only one who wishes the wardrobe could be changed? I think it looks a liiittle bland for what it is honestly, I'd love it if it was divided into 2/3 placeables like a few mannequins/stands for neck/face accessories and capes, an actual wardrobe for pants, a big box for props, a hat rack for hair accessories, etc!

[cosmic vine]

I literally can't use it unless I place it on the wall, so I'm all for it 😭

[solar lark]

That just reminded me of this #beta-screenshots-videos message

[somber oyster]

Solution: become tiny

[rich silo]

I did find alternate placements to make it work for both tall and short height, if you wanna know

[somber oyster]

I mean at the moment, it still looks like a regular desk. So if that could change to something more “closet looking” that’d be great! I assumed it was still a placeholder look

[rich silo]

it does also look pretty clunky for a 180 AC item tbh
function-wise it's good but appearance-wise it looks a bit lacking though it does represent what it does fairly well

[orchid burrow]

I've been saving my ACs for whenever they release a GW elder mask, but now I gotta grind eden some more for the neat closet

[peak portal]

Something I thought could be a nice addition is to have a couple of the drawers slightly ajar with items peeking out a bit. It might add some personality and help let you know which is which, because it’s currently kind of hard to tell (from what I’ve seen) and imo the drawers don’t really look like they’d be able to open. Having a corner of a cape hanging out and seeing a peek of some folded pants in a drawer would be cute. Maybe there could be a jewelry box/stand on top for accessories too. I personally think the dresser would look better if it was a wood texture instead of stone, but I’m not sure if that’s likely to happen if it’s not a seasonal item. A standing closet with doors instead might look good too if they were to change the shape! (I’m going to feedback this)

[rich silo]

if it were a standing closet with doors then how would you handle the button placement
cuz right now it's similar in layout to the regular closet left to right, it would become a pretty big item

[peak portal]

Ooh, good point maybe you’d just have to cycle through like you can with message shines (which is not something I enjoy )

[rich silo]

also the current layout is better than the one for days of style where they made it in a semicircle formation, that one was real tedious because you would have to minutely turn and try to make sure the button showed up without flicking to the next
this one is really nice you just have to slide over

[peak portal]

Yeah I do think the dresser format makes sense, it could just use some visual work

[rich silo]

do you think it could be improved if they literally just...added legs to each corner like just 🤏 to raise it off the ground a bit

[peak portal]

A little, but as I’ve said the drawers really don’t look like they’re capable of opening to me they just look carved out because it’s stone and you can see the opening doesn’t extend back

[covert bison]

I like the idea of stuff peeking out! I was thinking maybe they could make the area for the different item categories a little different looking maybe the drawer could be a different shape, add cabinets or one area could be hooks or whatever makes sense to store that type of item. Right now the drawers look pretty small.

[haughty plume]

It’s far too tidy on top. We should get a free clutter item to put on top to make it realistic

[rich silo]

#beta-screenshots-videos message
so here's my pitch
if the thing were narrower then it would make the drawers feel less weirdly impossible then making it taller would help the button issue

[heady plume]

I think it’s just fine, put candles or a flower pot on it. ‘You can please some of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time’ There’s hardly room in the place as it is

[red dome]

Do we know anything about the upcoming season?

[rich silo]

Player homes interior design based

[frozen quest]

I am trying to remember all.
Gratitude - Lightseekers - Belonging - Rhythm - Enchanment - Sanctuary - Prophecy - Dreams - Assembly - The Little Prince - Flight - Abyss - Performance - Shattering - Aurora - Remembrance - Passage - Moments - Revival - Nine-Colored Deer - Nesting

[waxen oyster]

I wish we could have a coat hanger thing where you could hang your hats, capes, put shoes, etc. I don’t mean only to wear them, but for some of the items to be hanging there

[faint zephyr]

yo, what is that season guide cosmetic besides the pants? is that a mannequin? a sack? wth is that

[oak garnet]

its the figurine, like the sky kid figure from thatskyshop, its exactly a replica of that figurine

[warm ocean]

I really wish we could place more pieces of the sectional couch. I'd love to build a big comfy couch in my house with arms on both sides but for that I need the piece with arms to be able to be placed three times

[tiny lintel]

Im just seeing lore chat saying nesting would reveals alot of lore when rn this season is just Unpacking™

[rich silo]

I thought beta spoilers aren't allowed outside of beta chat

[storm violet]

I guess they're just making theories up lmao

[solar lark]

It's just the descent of cy into interior decor insanity

[hearty wigeon]

(sorry for the ping aaa, I deleted it qwp im really bad at remembering this sometimes )
But yeah they aren’t allowed outside of beta chat

[brazen token]

Dude you GOTTA add that in suggestions! I suggested to add in a record player where you can swap between music of the areas, so you could listen to prairie music in your home.

[tulip veldt]

why is it never sunset when i am around

[foggy gorge]

Hello, could someone help me with a question I have about the Cinnamon roll event is done or no ?

[tulip veldt]

well its kind of done in the cafe but you can still find him around for quests; cant get the items tho

[foggy gorge]

Oh ok thanks for help

[uncut ginkgo]

Hey, does anyone know what's happening with Beta? I logged on and found it virtually unplayable. Can't collect wax, can't view my constellation, can't accept quests, candles, etc.

[tulip veldt]

things are working for me so perhaps a bug for you

[somber oyster]

I had the same actually!

[uncut ginkgo]

I tried re installation and it didn't seem to fix it either :'3

[tulip veldt]

sounds like servers are having a time

[somber oyster]

Apparently retrieving your quests from the cafe helps

[somber oyster]

A MUSIC PROP??? Place down instrument??? WHAT DO U MEAN

[rough lion]

is it maybe a music player like people have been requesting??

[somber oyster]

I’m gonna steal my friends handpan… for real now - you can place your own instrument and let people play it I think

[frail merlin]

omg no way

[hearty wigeon]

EXPLAINNNNN rover confused /nm

[somber oyster]

It’s a prop you can place hold on

[past robin]

The wooden bathtub has water in it now 🥰

[hearty wigeon]

do you have an image you can ping me in on #beta-screenshots-videos ?

[sour pivot]

Hello is it right channel to chat but my question is the beta has updated already?

[lavish matrix]

Yes there seems to be a very recent update!

[high atlas]

Instrument stand has me way too excited rn

I can finally share my ult instruments with anyone, I'm so happy

[covert bison]

Didn’t update yet but is the nest still haunted?

[hearty wigeon]

It seems like the ghosts have been banished by the nesting guide!

[bleak mural]

@hearty wigeon it's OOB from the workshop! It has an outside now... Which spoils some upcoming things apparently

[urban coral]

Yay… one handed mode editing in the nest is fixed.

[mental dagger]

Ooo beta doot?

[hearty wigeon]

Might I ask, where did you OOB in the workshop? I’ve been trying in the workshop but it ain’t working qwp

[urban coral]

Camp fire can be placed on the ground again too :D all is right in my sky land

[bleak mural]

I'm not sure actually hehe, I warped to two friends who were already OOB XD you could use a rocket, but maybe there's also a spot to chibi fall from?

[rain fulcrum]

Do you mean the restaurant?

[urban coral]

Thought maybe the blinking closet would go away after they added the new items…nope :(

[heady fern]

can someone tell me what the figurine is for? is it just displaying cosmetics?

[bleak mural]

no, the furniture workshop

[urban coral]

And you can equip the outfit. Unlike the mannequin that just shows it

I wish the quest items were a lil less AC in beta (or there were spells) so I had a chance to test them out. Bought the music stand cause I just wanted to be able to give feedback but I’ll never use that thing and I am never gonna get enough AC to get the mannequin now before it out in live. Not to mention the dresser/closet thing

Does anyone have the closet/dresser from the quest? Is it the same as the thing in our nest? How many AC is it?

[calm spoke]

I feel the mannequin should have this function too, and the ultimate figure action should be able to give any clothes to players even they dont having it yet

[somber oyster]

Okay I left feedback already but music prop: it would be SO cool if (1) we could leave instruments behind instead of it returning to the default prop, and (2) if we could play friends’ instruments we don’t own.

Yes, Sanctuary ult handpan, I’m looking at YOU 🫵

I’m so happy with this. My goodness!!!!!!! Now praying that Sky improves syncing across devices so that there’s no delay when playing music with friends

[orchid knot]

so buying 15 props is gonna take a long time not only for saving currency but also the shop rotation takes a while - I only have two props in the shop currently, maybe I bought some of the others in this rotation or is it only 2 for everyone?

[somber oyster]

Same!!

[crisp cedar]

Somehow, I completed the five person party task....but I didn't see anyone at my nest.

Aside from the ghosts, the shared spaces having a 30 second cool time helped me complete that task!

[orchid knot]

it's a mix currently of candles and ascended candles (there was also hearts too but I don't know if they're still there in this build, I only see one item for candles and one item for ac rn)

[gilded turret]

Will the 66 AC and 99AC props stay after season?

[oak tundra]

Imagine the Season of Nesting spirits coming back as a TS and it's just a Chair in the middle of the Aviary

Nesting TS Hints be like:

• Likes to be sit on ||(The Chair)||
• Is always on fire ||(The Candle stick)||
• Nailed to the wall ||(Landscape Painting)||
• Likes cooking food ||(The Stove)||
• Is hanged on the ceiling ||(Hanging Plant pot)||
• Is traumatized by what they've seen ||(The Bathtub)||

[rich silo]

placing the mannequin no longer copies your stance NOOOO

they fixed the dresser so it’s accessible no matter the height!! appearance didn’t change though

[orchid knot]

I wonder why sitting in a bath doesn't put our light out but then I guess swimming doesn't either hmmm

[last crown]

It’s only the baaaaad evil water that tries to end us slowly

[oak tundra]

Only the pepsi water from from GW does that

[waxen oyster]

If you’re ant size you may be able to drown 🤔

[rich silo]

I may ask if someone has the 66 AC item so I can record for the beta log

[blissful grove]

What does the 66 AC item at the top of 'Nesting Challenge: Friends' do? 😔

[harsh torrent]

New way to kill skykids

[waxen oyster]

Omg I just had an idea I WANT TO DECORATE MY NEST FOR THE HOLIDAYS! Christmas tree and all

[waxen oyster]

I don’t have the quest before that lol oops sorry for ping

[rich silo]

introducing player homes also increases the incentive for them to finally add more props!!!!
because before if they were added they didn't serve much purpose BUT NOW THEY DO MORE CLEARLY

[blissful grove]

New quest added, but will be available in a minute. That long minute doesn't end...

[waxen oyster]

Ah I bought the shelf today for ac, so I don’t have the 66 ac rn 😔

[rich silo]

oh they changed the doorway to the nest
the hallway also feels wider

[waxen oyster]

I feel like they do that on purpose now

It’s an inside joke in beta

[rich silo]

oh the stands in the shop have names now
from left to right:

• Nesting Solarium
• Nesting Loft
• Nesting Atrium
• Nesting Nook

[waxen oyster]

I mean it’s basically next build probably

[bleak mural]

I think there's a good chance next build won't come until sky launches on PC though or maybe we'll get another build right before the "blackout" time

[orchid knot]

RUGS CAN BE STACKED! MY FEEDBACK WAS HEARD, NOW I CAN HAVE A COZY RUG SPACE

[rich silo]

BUT WHAT DOES THAT MEAN

[orchid knot]

put rug on top of rug

gonna go test it just now I'm so excited

[rich silo]

#beta-screenshots-videos message
bubba it is very stacky

[orchid knot]

now we just need rugs with tassels and fuzz and CROCHET RUGS and I will stack them all

[rich silo]

patchwork rug

[orchid knot]

wait so friends can visit persisting between sessions and when leaving means friends can visit your nest all the time if you don't toggle it off?

[rich silo]

that means you can freely steal the fox 24/7 bubba