android-questions

[teal blaze]

But..

[tame comet]

That would be the problem. Stock and unrooted is the way to go. The app might be crashing after a failed CTS check.

[teal blaze]

Nope. I hide root. CTS is good

[tame comet]

Or if the port has a bad G Play services package since... You know, it isn't official Gapps.

[teal blaze]

It's the only game I have problem with tho

[tame comet]

I would suggest going back to stock. Custom roms add too many variables and aren't supported for security reasons.

[teal blaze]

Seems like I can't access the game's data

[lost coral]

The game's data is hidden

[tame comet]

It's also encrypted with some type of obfuscation like enigma or proguard. Most likely an in house one, those two are examples.

[sleek torrent]

Oh is it? I'll get the 11 on May, soooo

POG

You're doing it wrong 😂 immerse the processor area in water and get immediate relief from thermal throttling

Seriously don't do it 😂

Tis a joke

[tame comet]

Nah, 99.9% technician grade alcohol would work better.

[sleek torrent]

The chances of starting a fire is pretty high

[karmic mesa]

I seriously could though

My phone is fine underwater up to 30 ft

[tame comet]

Kinda hard to start a fire from the heat though. Alcohol's auto ignition temperature is around 350°C

[fast hearth]

i see that as a challenge, really

[karmic mesa]

O.O

[fast hearth]

oh
easy

[karmic mesa]

XD

[sleek torrent]

A core two duo can reach 600°C

So Android 11 has "sky headphones support" and it'll handle audio better?

Well if TGC adds it that is

[tame comet]

Not yet, no. Using that API call while supporting older Android versions most likely are causing bugs. Which is why they haven't implemented it.

[karmic mesa]

It has the potential to support it...

[sleek torrent]

Well **°° the older devices 😂

Jk

[karmic mesa]

O.o

[sleek torrent]

If it has the potential why not

It's just needs a simple line of code

[karmic mesa]

It's easier said than done

It's not as simple as a line of code

[sleek torrent]

If Android 11 then headphones allow

[karmic mesa]

It requires a large amount of testing and fine-tuning to get it to work

[sleek torrent]

If Android 11> then dont

😂

[karmic mesa]

And even at that they're still going to be Android 11 devices that won't trigger properly

[sleek torrent]

👁️👁️

Ouch

[karmic mesa]

Yep

One of the pains for developing for Android

It could work on one but it will absolutely not work on another

Even though you can't see a compatibility difference between the two

[sleek torrent]

So the best idea is

Make it a closet accessory

😂

[karmic mesa]

That's an idea

And have a toggleable switch to turn off the in-game sounds

Like almost every other game in existence

[sleek torrent]

#Roasted

[karmic mesa]

Even Journey had a volume meter inside of it

[sleek torrent]

Self driving cars work because of very simple code
{If going to hit obstacle; don't}

[karmic mesa]

Lol

I'm sure it's definitely more complicated than that

That's just the instruction

[sleek torrent]

I know haha

From a normie point it isn't very hard

And now that all the buttons are messed up

It's not gonna happen soon

[tame comet]

I wouldn't think nVidia made some insane mobile Tegra chips just for simple code for automation.

[karmic mesa]

Lol

[sleek torrent]

We need ghostplay

You know what I mean? 😂

For candle running and ||Eden||

[karmic mesa]

Lol

But no, we don't really need that

They're already working on a new candle collection system...

[fast hearth]

learn how to write an AI to play sky
train it to follow moths and just yell constantly

[sleek torrent]

😂

Ez

[karmic elk]

Make an AI moth that krills can fun with it

Also, why just don't make a android 11 only feature. Or just give iOS only feature.

[tame comet]

That's the tricky thing with coding. They add that as an Android 11 only feature and other stuff might break or crash non-11 Android devices. It seems simple in practice, but in reality, things break. I never would have guessed adding zen i/o scheduler to my phone's kernel would break WiFi for example. Two completely different things not even tied together.

[karmic mesa]

That's... Odd

How would an I/O scheduler have anything to do with Wi-Fi?

[tame comet]

¯_(ツ)_/¯ it did. Another good example of things just randomly breaking is for the longest time, Android 11 would just randomly crash when loading a new area.(in Sky) Don't know the cause of this but cursory adb log checks seems it had something to do with Android 11 updating Vulkan to 1.1.128 and an outdated render call caused a ramoops

[karmic mesa]

Huh

Well... Glad it got fixed before Android 11 started coming out for everything else

[karmic elk]

What about spreate android with spreate app?

[tame comet]

That isn't how the Play Store works. 1 app version per listing. That would create confusion and other issues. There's already some confusion with beta being a separate listing.

[karmic mesa]

Yeah they got the signature in there for a reason...

[near walrus]

Yeah it's like choose what version to download
ARM
64xARM
86xARM
Common people will be like
:clown:

[potent seal]

Hey! I have a question, with the new tier capes added, are they necessary to unlock for the costellation to be 100%???

[lavish igloo]

Is this the place to give feedback?

[near walrus]

Noo

#live-feedback

[lavish igloo]

When you encounter a recharge problem, where to give feedback

[near walrus]

Can you explain?

Recharge problem?

[lavish igloo]

top up

[near walrus]

For transaction issues contact sky support team

[lavish igloo]

wheee

where

[near walrus]

DM ThatHelpBot

[prisma iris]

!support

[upper sail]

You can contact TGC Support via the menu in-game by clicking the cog icon ⚙️ in the top right corner of your screen, then clicking Support > Contact Us.
If you’re unable to access your game, you can contact Support by using the link below:
http://bit.ly/skygamecs

[prisma iris]

helpbot is to contact TGC staff regarding smaller issues, support (above) is for account issues

helpbot does not have access to your account information

[near walrus]

https://thatgamecompany.helpshift.com/a/sky-children-of-the-light/?contact=1

Yup

[lavish igloo]

I have already sent an email
No one answered me

😫

[prisma iris]

there's about a 5 business day wait right now according to #known-issues

[near walrus]

Yeah

[lavish igloo]

So can I wait for oranges?

😋

🍊

[zenith fossil]

Does anyone have a problem with ur phone getting really hot when playing this game?

[sleek torrent]

Yes!! You still have time left! So no need to worry :)

[subtle pagoda]

lemme test the krill command and see whether it would say not oreo when its an orange

!krill orange

nvm

[sacred stream]

This command only works in the #sky-memes channel

[karmic elk]

I mean, if google play store detect android version is 11 download sky will get the android 11 package. If not it will get android 10 and lower package.

Or like you say Google play store is not work like that

[tame comet]

That's not how device compatibility works when listing an app. You build min sdk version and target sdk, can't say max sdk. So Android 11+ would see both as long as the Android <10 is on play store.

[karmic elk]

!beatsbyelder

[upper sail]

The headphones appear on your character when you play music or audio in another app while playing Sky. You can use them any time by putting on some tunes! (iOS only, until it's implemented for android)

[karmic elk]

Until it's implemented for android is useless

If compatibility and stable compare issuse

[glad kite]

Okay that actually makes sense.. I thought it was something that you got if you bought something. But now that answers the question.

[karmic elk]

How the heck you don't have any role

[ember glade]

How do people record their gameplay without buttons showing? Is it an iOS only thing as well?

[karmic elk]

Yes

Because iOS and Android recording is different.

Android recording doesn't have layers. It record anything on the screen

[ember glade]

Aw man

[sleek torrent]

Or how about muting in game sound automatically gives you headphones

[fathom drift]

That isn't possible. Muting, I mean

[sleek torrent]

I mean

When we do get something like volume control in game

@fathom drift

One sec

!picspoiler

[upper sail]

To spoiler tag a picture, rename the file name to begin with “SPOILER_”, or (desktop only) click the “Mark as spoiler” box when you upload it. To rename on iOS, export image to the Files app > rename > share to Discord.

[sleek torrent]

Oh k

[fathom drift]

That I can't answer because no info has been shared by tgc on that. But what I do know is some Android custom skins (like Samsung's oneUI) have built their own apps or support apps that let you control individual app's volumes. OxygenOS is also working on a similar feature. There are also apps for advanced Android users.

[sleek torrent]

Oh possible on Samsung?

I have a Samsung

Like sound control

[fathom drift]

I believe it's called SoundAssistant.

[sleek torrent]

Bixby?

I have bixby disabled 😂

[fathom drift]

An app by Samsung.

[sleek torrent]

Let's see

[fathom drift]

Check if you can find it in the Play Store. See if it works.

[sleek torrent]

It does! Thanks for the tip

[fathom drift]

https://c.tenor.com/yQ7BQromSa0AAAAM/no-problem-kakashi-hatake.gif

[ebon oyster]

Question, my friend wants to unlink their acc but the problem is that the game doesn't want to
Well they can sign out from their Google account but they can't unlink
So what should they do?

[dark pumice]

They'll have to contact customer support, since only they are able to unlink it

[ebon oyster]

Thanks, appreciated it

[fast hearth]

Is the game capable to 60 fps with the Xiaomi redmi note 9s?

[karmic elk]

Unlink, there's a way to unlink

Remove the associated account like Google and Sky data.

And you will be a brand new moth

[haughty kiln]

No

[fast hearth]

And the poco X3?

[karmic mesa]

The Poco X3 is not 60 FPS compatible

[upper sail]

bruh... talking about hacks and hackers is against the rules @karmic mesa

[karmic mesa]

Lol

[haughty kiln]

gg?

Also, I know about the redmi because my gf has it, I have another phone so idk but apparently someone else answered the question about the poco

[karmic mesa]

I actually verified whether or not you were right by saying the redmi note 9s was incompatible with 60 FPS... And you were correct, the Adreno 618 is not labeled as a 60 FPS compatible GPU.

[fast hearth]

This game

Bruh

[haughty kiln]

Nothing to do with the game, but the phone

[karmic mesa]

There are some topics best not mentioned here

[fast hearth]

Bruv, I have watched a bunch of vids to decide the phone, and trust, it's not

[topaz reef]

@fast hearth using the program you mentioned with Sky would violate Sky’s Terms of Service, so please don’t discuss it. And please know that any violation of Sky’s Terms of Service can result in an account ban or other action at TGC’s discretion

[fast hearth]

Just mentioned it

[fast hearth]

Games like genshin impact the poco X3 can handle the 60 easily so sky? Bruh

Not hating, that's what I think

[karmic mesa]

Sky is more graphically intense than you might imagine

[fast hearth]

Even the iPhone 5s can handle sky g, it's just game optimization

At 60 fps

[karmic mesa]

The iPhone 5s does not play the game at 60 FPS. My friend has one and it lags severely

[fast hearth]

Then the info was clickbait

[karmic mesa]

Had to be

The iPhone 5 is the oldest and weakest iPhone compatible with Sky

[fast hearth]

My gf has the 6 or 6s and can handle the 60 fps easily

[karmic mesa]

O.o

She must have a magic iPhone 6

[fast hearth]

The poco has a processor literally dedicated to gaming xd

[fast hearth]

Bruh I'm not jking

[karmic mesa]

I've seen Sky run on the iPhone 6... It handles the game okay... But it doesn't hit 60 FPS everywhere

Not like the iPhone 11 or 12

[fast hearth]

No sense discussing with u lmao

[karmic mesa]

The reason the Poco X3 can't do 60 FPS is because the Adreno 618 isn't powerful enough to run the game at that high... Even when forced to try for 60 it idles at around 40

Courtesy to Uzephi for finding that out

[fast hearth]

I usually play it within 20 fps so 40 is acceptable for me lmao

[karmic mesa]

Yeah... The phone I started sky on it was the Samsung Galaxy A20... And I got anywhere from 20 FPS to 5...

[fast hearth]

What phone u have rn

[karmic mesa]

I bought the S20 FE 5G

It has the Snapdragon 865... And the Adreno 650

Which is more than powerful enough to play sky at 60 FPS

[fast hearth]

600€ 🤣🤣

[karmic mesa]

I saved up for a year for it

[fast hearth]

I don't even receive money

;-;

[karmic mesa]

_>

I work at a chicken restaurant

[fast hearth]

I'm going to work at a supermarket

This summer

[karmic mesa]

That's good

Dunno if it'll give you enough to get a flagship phone

There's probably other more important things you should spend your money on

[fast hearth]

I'm going to buy a pc

[karmic mesa]

Me too!

[fast hearth]

I would earn enough in a month

[karmic mesa]

Be careful the price of graphics cards are going through the roof right now

[fast hearth]

Ik

[karmic mesa]

It's dumb... People need to stop scraping the stores with bots

Cuz that's what's happening... Hundreds of bots are buying out all of the graphics cards at stock price and then reselling them for five times as much

[fast hearth]

Ye

[worn sigil]

I hope this is of any help @forest osprey

no probs

[gentle oar]

please talk in cozy sky discussion or seasonal chat

[karmic mesa]

O.o

[fast hearth]

...why?

Can we get the headphones yet,,,,

[kind kayak]

not yet

[normal sinew]

speaking of iphones have you ever used the first ipod?

[karmic mesa]

Are you talking about the iPod touch using the bionic A5 chip?

The iPod Touch (5th Gen)

Erm... no

[fast hearth]

run Sky on that

[karmic mesa]

Lol

I have an iPod touch 5th gen... But it's incompatible

XD

I tried

[haughty kiln]

Why did I get pinged

[marble summit]

Wanna ask Oppo reno 5 user,
Can reno run maximum graphic in Sky?

30fps HDR i mean

[karmic mesa]

Yes every phone supports the 30 FPS high definition mode

[haughty kiln]

Hmmm odd... My girlfriend's phone can't run it. Literally instead of having the 4 options of graphics it only has 3, and the last one "30 fps high graphics" is not accessible on her phone.

I had a Huawei Y9 2019 and it didn't run it in high graphics.

Her phone is a Redmi note 9s

[karmic mesa]

It can... Whenever a phone supports 60 FPS the second lightning bolt becomes the 60fps option and it pushes the 30 FPS high definition mode to the third bolt... If it doesn't then it just slides back down into the second slot again

So weaker devices have 0,1,2
0.. battery saver
1.. standard
2... High definition

And high powered devices have 0,1,2,3
0.. battery saver
1.. standard
2.. high performance 60fps
3.. high definition

[haughty kiln]

Oh okay, that makes sense... lol my bad

[karmic mesa]

No it's all right it was confusing for me too until I got a higher end device

Still don't understand why 60 FPS goes into the second lightning bolt but it does

[haughty kiln]

Which one do you have?

[karmic mesa]

S20 FE 5G

[haughty kiln]

I'm still waiting for 60 fps high definition

lol

[haughty kiln]

Me too, I got it all confused because I had the Huawei I mentioned and now i have the note 20 ultra... So a HUGE jump, I simply thought some didn't have the high graphics option

[karmic mesa]

Yeah...

[fast hearth]

probably future proofing where eventually there will be a 60 FPS high definition option?

...maybe?

[karmic mesa]

Maybe

[modest ether]

Hello

Can someone

Help me

[karmic mesa]

[modest ether]

I have some issues about my sky qwq

It's about purchasing items qwq

[karmic mesa]

Hmm... That may require fiddling with Google... Try clearing the data from the play store and Google play games and then restarting your device

That's pretty much the only thing I can think of... if that doesn't work then someone smarter than me is going to have to come through

[modest ether]

I think it's using my sister's account
Because when I want to buy it it says I already purchase

[karmic mesa]

[modest ether]

Eventho when I look at my wardrobe

It's gone

Like

I never get it yet

[karmic mesa]

Okay click restore purchases

[modest ether]

Sorry if it's annoying but

Where to click qwq

[karmic mesa]

No no it's fine I'll take a screenshot to show you

[modest ether]

Thank uuu qwq

[modest ether]

Hmmm

[karmic mesa]

The other solution would be to remove your sister's account from the device...

[modest ether]

H-how to remove it

Remove it in sky

Or in google play

[karmic mesa]

Google play

[modest ether]

I'll try

[karmic mesa]

@modest ether here's a video that shows how

[modest ether]

THANK UUUU

I did it

Thanks so kuch

Much

[karmic mesa]

[pallid wraith]

@modest ether hi

[modest ether]

Hewwo

[karmic mesa]

[marble summit]

My phone can run upto 90fps but i cant use 60 fps in sec lightning, in my 2 option just 30fps boosted mode
Is that same with 30fps Hdr?

My phone Realme 6 pro

[karmic mesa]

This is true! Your phone has a 90 HZ screen! However, as I stated before, the Adreno 618 does not have the power to run sky at 60 FPS consistently. Previous testing on the chipset has proven around 40 in most places.

Also yes, the second option for you is 30fps high definition

[marble summit]

Hmm, since i ask u never stated about what GPU in weaker device and high powered,

But my last question is is my 2 option same as HDR bcause its said Boosted Mode (not HDR)?

And now can i know what GPU (minimum GPU) can run 0,1,2,3 (all) lightning

[marble summit]

Oh hmm,,

[karmic mesa]

For snapdragon it's the adreno 540

I'm not 100% certain which is the weakest GPU from the Mali group

And I would steer clear from PowerVR

[tame comet]

Mali GPUs are weird in naming. Pretty much a G76 or higher with at least 8 or higher clusters. I.E. G76-MC8 or MP8 depending on which site you're checking. Adreno go by nVidia and AMD naming, first number is the series. I.E. 540, it a 5 series GPU and 40 is the "power." 618 is a 6 series but 18 power.

[karmic mesa]

Yeah like I'd imagine the Mali-G71 MP20 would be pretty powerful

[tame comet]

G71-MP20 vs G77-MP12 would be like comparing a 980Ti vs an RTX 3060.

[karmic mesa]

XD

It's still not too shabby for a g71

I mean considering

[tame comet]

Oof

[karmic mesa]

Oof

Compare that to the Adreno 650

[tame comet]

They seem to be trading blows depending on the benchmark engine

[karmic mesa]

Yeah

I noticed

Not a bad GPU

Wouldn't mind having a phone with it to be honest... It'd be nice to getting those hyper crisp screenshots in sky

Unfortunately Snapdragon had to be the one to fall victim to that

The render resolution of the in-game graphics on my S20 is high enough that I can see those weird pixelizations even in game

So it's not just the screenshots

[tame comet]

Optimizations for older devices made higher end devices slightly suffer. Look at how some people lag severely in Vault, yet here I am with absolutely no motion blur... Until I turn on screen recording...

[karmic mesa]

Right

It makes me wonder though why those optimizations would cause specifically Snapdragon soc's to render like that... Mali gpus render just fine... Even my A20... When I forced the internal resolution to 2K and took a screenshot in sky (granted it took like 6 seconds) the finished product was very crisp and clean

[tame comet]

Probably how the microarchitecture handles the antialiasing they are using, there are different kinds.

TAA, FXAA and MSAA being the main ones used by game engines.

[karmic mesa]

I did send in a bug report about it... But I have very very low faith that they'll even consider looking at it...

Yeah I don't know what they're using

[tame comet]

By how it looks, it seems to use FXAA. That would make sense also as MSAA uses more resources.

TAA is barely used anymore in games

[karmic mesa]

There's a handful of games out there that still use it... Like Genshin iirc

[tame comet]

TAA is barely used as it isn't that great. High computational overhead for minimal results. (Still blurry compared to MSAA)

[karmic mesa]

Ah

S20 (snapdragon)

A20 (Exynos)

Both were rendered at 1080p

And you can see the difference

[tame comet]

I think it's an artifact of the optimizations back when people were having crashes when taking screenshots. DM'd you some screenshots. Seems around July 13th was when Snapdragon devices started to suffer.

[fast hearth]

DM @compact basalt about it if you haven't received any reply for a while

[karmic mesa]

Do they usually reply to a bug report?

[fast hearth]

sometimes if I've got a bizarre question for them they'll pass on the information to the devs

might help for situations like this?

[karmic mesa]

I just sent it into the bug reports area in report live bug

[tame comet]

It's most likely filed as low prio

[karmic mesa]

For sure

[fast hearth]

man
I cannot wait for the PC version

[tame comet]

I'm waiting for the switch version. Same hardware across the board should be pretty optimized

[fast hearth]

that's true
would be nice if the Nvidia Shield was supported
then people could run Android on their Switch for it

[tame comet]

The Shield is 32 bit, switchroot is a custom firmware that was built 64 bit. That's why the Shield isn't supported. (Also the lack of a full, CTS compliant Gplay)

[fast hearth]

...wait it's 32 bit?

what the heck

[tame comet]

Yeah, only the 2019 pro model is 64 bit

[fast hearth]

well this is news to me

[tame comet]

I think the 2015 model had a "64 bit mode" you could enable, but by default, it ran 32 bit.

[karmic mesa]

Interesting

That's the S20 with an almost 1:1 aspect ratio

[tame comet]

Still jaggies. I wonder if they went from 4x to 2x AA. Reduce GPU load, quick fix for lower end devices. Maybe they could code in if GPU score greater than x 4x AA else 2x AA in their engine.

[karmic mesa]

Hmm

[karmic elk]

I am too poor for a flagship phone

[graceful yarrow]

I have a mid range phone and it can run Sky on highest settings

You can try disabling background app activity while playing to improve performance

[karmic elk]

It doesn't work

On Android 11 my ram from 4 gb to 2 GB after playing Sky

Even I clear the cache it's still 3 GB

[tame comet]

Ram =/= app activity. Apps can sit idle on ram but not run. I have 4GB of ram and have no issues. Something might be asking for GPU redraws, like your home launcher, web browser, etc.

[lusty garden]

hi, i have 1 almost full seasonal candle but when i get light from new candle today it dont give me candle

why did it happen?

[desert spruce]

is a Helio P90 chip powerful enough for sky?

[desert spruce]

that looks like OPPO gamespace or something

[karmic elk]

Yes

[karmic elk]

#questions-and-help

[hidden ridge]

Hi! My friend recently got a new android phone and besides that her phone meets all the requirements to play sky it still says she can’t. Is there a fix to this or has this to do with for example the model of the phone?
Ty in advance!

[ionic cradle]

How unfortunate

[brave drum]

Very sad

[haughty kiln]

Which phone does she uses?

[desert spruce]

is it a chinese phone?

[fast hearth]

I'm the person they're talking about, and I have a LG, version 9
however it has a ARM Cortex-A53 and I'm not sure if that can run sky

[hidden ridge]

Here u go!

I think it’s best if you talk to them! As they know more about their own phone hehe, tysm for helping

[graceful yarrow]

Sorry what's the phone model?

[fast hearth]

MT6762

[graceful yarrow]

The specs are helpful but it would be easier for us to check everything about the phone if you tell us the model itself. Like is it an LG K42? X6?

[fast hearth]

I have a screenshot of everything, do you want me to send that?

[graceful yarrow]

Can you not just name your phone model? But yeah that would help

[graceful yarrow]

Huh? That's the spec sheet of the processor, not your phone

[fast hearth]

Sorry I'm just a little confused

[graceful yarrow]

I just need the name of your phone haha MT 6762 is a processor

[fast hearth]

LG K41S

[graceful yarrow]

Both your cpu and gpu are old models that would struggle with Sky but if I had to guess, it's probably the gpu that makes it incompatible. Sky is graphics intensive and your gpu doesn't render 3d graphics well. But maybe someone with more knowledge on this can explain better

[fast hearth]

Oh I see, thank you!

[haughty kiln]

I was a little late sorry... I couldn't have explained it better than that.

[karmic mesa]

That PowerVR GPU is notorious for lacking Vulkan support... Without that even the most powerful gpus would be incompatible

[winged kindle]

Is the samsung galaxy s20 fe 5g a good phone? Idk if I can ask this here

[fast hearth]

YES

VERY MUCH SO

[fast hearth]

Just disable 90% of all shaders, reduce the gbuffer usage, disable FXAA for text, slow down and optimize the volumetric cloud system, improve the unloading mechanism, don't load ALL graphic resources into VRAM at the same time...

Sky was designed by a good person,
while the code was written by

1. a five-year old
2. an iPhone coder who quickly moved to Android

Since 5-year-olds can't be legally employed, i'm voting for the 2nd one

why adreno 6xx get deez stripes on screenshots?

[unreal tinsel]

Why doesn’t sky show on my playstore on my phone Samsung a6?

[fast hearth]

Phone incompartible (perhaps)?

[kind kayak]

the a6 is 32bit, so it cannot run sky

[fast hearth]

ye

[kind kayak]

sky requires phones that are 64bit

[fast hearth]

because the devs still can't

add a compile flag

to build for armeabi

[unreal tinsel]

:0 kk tysm

[karmic elk]

It doesn't work like that

You see the Android is removing 64bit by launching Android 11 64bit only

And sky first on iOS is 64bit

Also if game runs at 32 bit it may way worst than my phone

So it's impossible to port 64bit to 32bit

Performance and compatibility will suffer

[kind kayak]

i don't think it could run 32 bit even if the devs wanted it to

[karmic elk]

Performance will suffer a lot

So there's nothing you can do

Buy a new phone is you can do

[fast hearth]

I would be amazed if someone manages to find a 32-bit only device that's strong enough to run Sky anyway

there's definitely issues with Sky's Android optimization, I won't argue there
32-bit support is not one of them though haha

[fast hearth]

Write the code in a non-native language and it will run on mips, mips64, x86, x86_64, arm, arm64, (Super)SPARC, PowerPC, PowerPC64 and etc etc etc

brb running sky on my wii

Also, Sky would be perfectly suited for the Wii's audience

Family console after all

[fast hearth]

Optimization problems

AA we just built our game for armeabi and it works with accepable 40+- frames on these trending 64-bit (32-bit mode) phones

So

Sky optimization problems

https://thatgamecompany.com/careers/
ok

2young2employ

Let's citate the career page

We believe that games should be played, shared and enjoyed by everyone.
tho most of the TGC's games can't be ran on most of the devices
create truly innovative games
True. But what's the cost? Getting rid of the compartiblity?

Idk but it seems like Sky is based on top of a thought like "anyone has an iPhone anyway"

Surprisingly, most people here don't

[dusty ginkgo]

Just thinking but might have something to do with the apple market being more standardized when it comes making games. While android has thousands of different devices, with countless of specifications? Could be harder for a small indie company to make it fit all devices?

[fast hearth]

Tho most of the companies that specialize on Android kinda do that well

Questionable

[dusty ginkgo]

Remember not to compare them to bigger game companies tho. They’re a small indie company

[fast hearth]

Not comparing to bigger ones

[dusty ginkgo]

Found this by ktjn #android-questions message

You can always ask them if you wanna know? We can only answer from what we know or have been told. We’re not the devs

Also sky was made from a specialized engine from scratch to make sky. Took them 7 years. Maybe that’s also where the complications could come from

[desert spruce]

imagine if you tried to run sky on a Wii. It is comeing to Switch soon though.

[fast hearth]

Even though most of the Of The Shelf engines have the capabilities...

they chose the bumpy road

with a ton of issues

[dusty ginkgo]

Maybe they wanted to do something different?
Again you can always ask them

We can only speculate here

[tame comet]

Sky looked very similar between iOS and Android at launch up until mid way through enchantment. It ran great on phones that could handle the graphics prowess of the engine. Too many low end and older phones has issues. My Pixel 3a had no crashes and looked great at 30 FPS high quality. Then lower tier phones had crashing issues due to how complex the engine was and those phones not handling render requests correctly. They had to dial down graphics quality to get it to work with those lower end phones and phones not implementing driver updates correctly.

Let's not forget Android is a jumbled mess on Vulkan driver versions, unlike PC or iOS where all devices are on the same version (iOS is on 1.1.0 and PC just updated to 1.2 and it updates with a graphics driver update which can be initiated by the user, unlike Android's over 50 different Vulkan versions)

[fast hearth]

Let's not forget
Most of the current phones support the Sky's minimum Vulkan spec well enough

And yes, Vulkan 2.0 does not exist, latest one is 1.2 (with RTX)

i feel like you have a very different definition of "current" than uzephi or i would

[tame comet]

Mistyped, meant 1.2, either way. 1.0.3 is very old but to support Android 8.0, it must be supported.

1.0.3 came out almost 5 years ago... Vulkan has matured a lot since then.

[fast hearth]

Never seen a phone with Android 8 that can run Sky

[tame comet]

My Motorola Z2 Force ran it.

It traded blows with the Pixel 2 in performance, just Moto never gave it 9.0 update... Unless you were a Verizon Model.

[fast hearth]

Also, doesn't iPhone 5s (supported by Sky) has a far too old video chipset to even make a Vulkan layer?

Also, i just checked, my Vulkan version is 1.1.87

on mobile

And 1.1 on PC too

[tame comet]

You need to update your graphics driver then. My 980Ti updated to Vulkan 1.2 in December.

[fast hearth]

I have a 1050Ti, and even though the driver reports 1.2, the GPU itself is stuck on 1.1

[tame comet]

Might be because mine was a flagship.

[fast hearth]

Maybe

Anyway

If Vulkan is too spread, why not go with OpenGL ES?

OpenGL ES 3.0 is supported on most of the devices (even my Redmi 4x had it)
(except the 10$ Wish phones which have 2.0)

[tame comet]

Vulkan's cross compatibility. Good luck getting your engine only using OGL to work on the Switch.

[fast hearth]

SwiftShader?

ANGLE wrap?

[tame comet]

OGL is also antiquated. Vulkan is a more lightweight API that just works. Sadly, due to Android's fragmentation, it isn't a good example for Vulkan, yet. That is one of the Android system updates Google is trying to force on their end without OEMs dabbling with it. Currently, there are some issues on A11 on forcing drivers, like Vulkan and OGL, being unified. This is mainly with how kernels handle HAL. Greg Harmon (very good linux kernel dev) has been working with Google to help separate kernel and system drivers to more streamline system updates to drivers like Vulkan.

[fast hearth]

Aight then

[tame comet]

To really see how Vulkan is better than OGL or even DX12, it would be better to check PCs or iOS. Just look how nice Sky looks on an iPhone 6 compared to an OG Pixel. (Due to Android's fragmentation, the OG Pixel looks pretty bad)

[teal obsidian]

Quick question: will flashing a custom ROM make the phone fail safety net?

[tame comet]

It will fail basic integrity due to build fingerprint, yes.

[teal obsidian]

So I can't install Sky?

[tame comet]

SN checks phone model against official build fingerprints for that device. Custom roms use their own fingerprint and fail inherently.

Usually, yes. I know some custom roms, like lineage can pass basic attestation in most cases, but due to hardware attestation slowly being the norm, most will fail hardware checks due to unlocked bootloader tripping hardware SN checks.

[teal obsidian]

I see. Thank you.

[fast hearth]

Anyone else get occasional font size changes when logging on?

[subtle pagoda]

!lovenfortune

[upper sail]

The Days of Love event will begin on February 12th at 12pm noon PST (UTC-8), ending on February 21st at 12pm noon PST (UTC-8), and overlaps with Days of Fortune for a little over a week. More Details in the Blog 🔎 http://bit.ly/SkyDoFaL

[fast hearth]

How do I center my camera? When I take a picture it always puts my character far to the left TwT

[pallid wraith]

On your screen, If you walk to the right your character will stay left when you stop and vice versa
The only way I can think of that would center your camera (and not having to move or fly) would be playing any instrument

[fast hearth]

Didn't notice that until you pointed it out. I'll probably try that. Thanks! Also what about the game music is there a way to turn it up or down??

[pallid wraith]

Sadly no, can only control the volume with your normal phone volume buttons

[ember glade]

@fast hearth happened to me before the update

[sleek torrent]

You mean my Samsung S30 Ultra Max Pro HD 6.8 inch 16gb ram 256gb was fake?

Oh no 😂😭

[elder sentinel]

Question can Androids play with ios?

[kind kayak]

yes! there is crossplay

[elder sentinel]

But why cant I add it together?

[kind kayak]

what do you mean?

[elder sentinel]

I cant android Sky cant add my ios Sky ;w;

[kind kayak]

you mean linking your account to 2 devices?

or adding each account as friends?

if you want to friend an ios account and an android account, its the same process. you can use a qr or add by candle if you meet by chance

if you have 2 devices, 1 android and 1 ios, you can link the same account to both devices by linking your gmail or facebook. make sure that its the same one for both if that's the case

[karmic mesa]

I can tell you from experience that you can in fact sync one account to more than one device...

[kind kayak]

i uh.. wasn't sure what they meant but yes, you can have an account on more than one device

[karmic mesa]

And if you wondering what happens if you try to login on one device while the other one is already logged in... It will just show a network error on the one already logged in...

[karmic elk]

He mean why android can't add iOS friend's

What resolution you guys can see?

480p?

Or 720p?

[karmic mesa]

Upon inspection, the screenshots themselves are 1080p

The graphics look to be slightly higher than 480 and a bit lower than 720...

If that even makes any sense

[hollow holly]

540?

[karmic mesa]

Possibly

That's my go-to resolution for my laptop when trying to play higher end games... 960x540

[sleek torrent]

Will sky run on Android go?

[karmic mesa]

Android go?

[sleek torrent]

I replaced many apps with lite version or go versions

Yes

It saves a lot of ram

And storage

So wondering if I should completely switch to Android go

Dual boot isn't gonna happen tho

[fast hearth]

sky doesn't have anything for that

[sleek torrent]

Is sky supported in Android go os?

Phones that come with it have 1gb ram

So I'm wondering how much storage and ram can be saved by using it on a lower mid ranger

[karmic mesa]

From what I can tell it should work on Android go as long as it's built on Android 8 or higher... Which according to the forums Android go first came out around 8.1 anyway so the OS compatibility shouldn't be a problem.

[sleek torrent]

Go apps and lite apps already are working wonders

Hmm

I will try one day

[karmic elk]

But what about safetynet

Rooting the phone may trigger safetynet

[karmic elk]

But the minimum spec is 1.5 GB ram

[sleek torrent]

Ah leave it

[novel violet]

Sky won't run on 1 GB RAM

[glad kite]

Sky runs really well on my Samsung phone, but there are just a few areas that cause the game to crash for me. For example, when I try to enter Vault, 90% of the time it crashes or has serious lag. I even have it at the lowest setting and it does that. Another example is when I try to enter the area in GW with one krill going around it also crashes. This is probably an issue with my phone, but it's good to point it out just in case there's ways of trying to reduce the lag in these areas. At least I still have access to these areas and can do quests and winged light searching after eden but it's just difficult to get into the area without crashing at least 10 times.

[pearl jackal]

Can someone DM me a screenshot shots on none snapdragon phone? Like MTK or Kirin soc?
Screenshot on snapdragon soc are really pixel-ly...

[novel violet]

This one is from Snapdragon. I got this when I started the game. I don't have any other screenshot from Snapdragon. I have Helio now

[karmic elk]

wow

[true trellis]

Not a question but a tip, for those Samsung users that have updated it to Android 11 (One UI 3.0 & One UI 3.1) that are experiencing very large or very small chat font size when playing Sky.

Disclaimer: It may not be a great tip tbh but it worked for me (most of the time, the font is normal after doing it, so it might work or it might not but no harm in trying, right?)

Also this might be a bug or optimization problem since updating it to Android 11 (but who knows 🤷🏼‍♂️)

Steps:

1. Open Settings App
2. Click Display Tab
3. Look for 'Full Screen Apps' then click
4. Disable the toggle if it is enabled
5. Try to play Sky and chat with a friend to test.

[topaz vale]

THANKS !!!

[karmic mesa]

I actually haven't experienced that... My chat seems to be just fine

[true trellis]

After updating it to Android 11 then I played Sky and chat font size are really large, so I tried some things here and there and even researched some stuff to change it, and I tried the above steps and it worked for me, tho its not a fix, hahhaha

[karmic mesa]

Seems the S20 FE 5G doesn't suffer from that problem

[true trellis]

Oh, wow, hmmmm, maybe its only for others, then? Wait, is S20 FE 5G Android 10 or 11 out of the box? And what One UI version?

[karmic mesa]

Out of box it came with Android 10 with OneUI 2.5... since it has been updated to 11 with OneUI3

[true trellis]

Ohh, I see I see, hmmmm, maybe it was a bug or maybe not, I dunno but I have already browsed through bug reports channel and saw multiple reports about it so I declined to report it since its duplicate

[true trellis]

Let me know if it works for you too. and again disclaimer those steps are not fix.

[fast hearth]

So, idk if it's just me, but I can't see both my daily tasks while looking at my friends list or menu at home. Is that even optional for android?

[trim kindle]

IOS how to make test clothes

[fast hearth]

what

[kind kayak]

i think they were referring to something in beta

[fast hearth]

Guys, I need help..Once someone sends me a heart, I don't get a single one ... So I always restart the game but I don't have one heart there. What should I do? Please advise me.

[onyx zinc]

best to keep questions to one channel so it's less confusing. I see you already asked in #questions-and-help

[karmic mesa]

[bright ledge]

when i have done recording on my phone (i use the google play one given from the game), the button is shown on the recorded video, can i remove it? or is there any other good recorder without trademark?

[tame comet]

Android's built in recorder is pretty good if you have Android 10 or 11, it should be available. I can't share a current video as most of my recordings are beta content. Only downside is the video is saved at a higher quality, so there is higher overhead using it. I get slight frame stutters when recording on a mid range phone.

[bright ledge]

Mine is android 10, u see the google play button there? Also it doesnt record sound in game but irl sound (i dont put it here). Also... it records the screen not like the game, u know where the buttons are gone

[tame comet]

It would be a quick setting tile. Drop down your notification tray and press the pencil and see if you have the circled icon you can add to your quick settings.

[bright ledge]

Lemme check if samsung had that. I never know

[tame comet]

Samsung has had built in screen recording since Android 8.0, you should have it. I don't use Samsung, if you can't find it, someone who uses them might be able to tell you where it's at.

[bright ledge]

oooh now i find it, feel like a boomer. thanks a lot. also the buttons r still shown for android, right? unlike ios. n there is no way to delete those buttons

[tame comet]

Correct. It is due to how Android's graphics layering works.

[true trellis]

Try to force close the app and restart, this happens to me sometimes and some of my IOS friends experiences this too.

[fast hearth]

Thank you! I'll try that

[tame comet]

I don't think that feature is available for Android. Hmm, tried it and doesn't work. Might be iOS only.

[teal blaze]

Anyone using miui ? Fc

[karmic mesa]

Miui comes pre-installed with xiaomi phones... 👀

[teal blaze]

Yeah. Seems like it's fc on miui

[pearl jackal]

MIUI 12.5 Android 11 here. No fc.

[sleek goblet]

How much time left for me to get the dragon mask ?

[sleek torrent]

Sound assistant helps me listen my music on YouTube while playing sky

Thanks for the suggestions

I recommend to Samsung kiddos hehe

I can multitask with 4 apps at once

So I open YouTube and make it as smol as possible and put it in a corner

It's awesome 🙂

[velvet horizon]

best to learn sheet XDXD

[sleek torrent]

Ooh nice idea

I'm not much of a music playing guy 😂

I listen more

[acoustic summit]

It says my phone isn't compatible

I'm 99% sure it should be please help

[sleek torrent]

You have the iOS role

Hmm

Well anyways many Xiaomi phones are having this issue

Is your's a MI?

[fathom drift]

If you'd like to give it a go, using desktop view in a browser lets you run background play for music.

[sleek torrent]

mhm

[fast hearth]

There WAS a way to bypass the compartiblity checks, but sky will most likely just crash

So, i was testing various games in Portrait mode, and... Of Course, there were only three games that did NOT work:

1. Sky
2. Some crappy pay2win MMORPG
3. And an another game
   All of the other games had passed the test pretty much easily

Fun fact, Sky was the only one who had touch input not working

Like, at all

[tacit charm]

How I can record a screen without icons? I know on IPhone can do it but on OS Android can't

[fast hearth]

You can't because developers are lazy and made the Android port just for it to exist

Don't see any other reasons

it's not much of a workaround, but if you play with a controller it hides the onscreen joystick and jump/flight buttons

if i recall correctly they used the Google Play recorder instead of implementing a full on recorder like iOS has since that would have pushed the Android launch date back by a few months or something

Why not just remove the video button then?

It will dissapoint people

Because most people expect a good recoder if it's inside a game

[tacit charm]

@fast hearth I know but I want make a cover with music but each icons disturb me

Its Disturb when someone watching my video

[fast hearth]

You can always download GamePad+, enable its background daqemon and hide the pad itself

Root needed though

they don't really have anything for that currently

[tacit charm]

I can cut a recorded video but the graphics is too low

truncate the screen dimensions*

[fast hearth]

Then set your graphics to max

Or you can't because they didn't optimize?

[tacit charm]

I got Samsung Note 10 with sreen dimensions 3040×1440 and I think it's ok

[near walrus]

@karmic mesa lmao miui is the original why it wont come pre installed ?

hahaha

btw

anyone use andriod here TvT

[fast hearth]

i do

[near walrus]

which andriod ?@fast hearth

[fast hearth]

10

[near walrus]

and which phone

[fossil verge]

Is the game compatible with PS4 controllers? Do I just like connect the controller to my mobile device or is there some requirements or compatibility things to take notice of

[fast hearth]

connection should work fine out of the box on USB (with an OTG cable) or Bluetooth

[karmic mesa]

@near walrus I use Android! I use the Samsung Galaxy S20 FE 5G running Android 11 with OneUI 3.0

[near walrus]

noice

[karmic mesa]

[near walrus]

bruh

why people use iphones

idk it bothers me

xD

[karmic mesa]

Because they're better optimized for the game

[near walrus]

noo not for the game

but in generak

[karmic mesa]

There's always two sides... And people will always go for both.

[near walrus]

snapdragon is very optimized too

[karmic mesa]

iPhone is highly optimized and managed. Whereas Android is open source and lacks optimization

[near walrus]

but iphone feels like prison

[karmic mesa]

I prefer Android because I can do anything with it...

[near walrus]

yeah

[karmic mesa]

iOS does feel like that... especially when the iCloud activation lock kicks into an email address that I don't have access to anymore...

[near walrus]

and ppl loves that big notch soo much

why

[karmic mesa]

Idk

I'm looking forward to the under screen camera that Samsung is coming out with

[near walrus]

I think bbk phones will do that first

[karmic mesa]

Welp... Break is over, headed back to work.

[near walrus]

but samsung can do it first do , there is a under screen phone by zte

ooh oki

see ya

[languid juniper]

is this a bug? im using a samsung a10s, and mt6762 do support arm64

[fast hearth]

there's a reason you couldn't find it on the Play Store

@languid juniper your device may be capable of 64-bit at a hardware level but your operating system is 32-bit

also please note that downloading the game anywhere outside of the Play Store violates Sky's ToS

[languid juniper]

thanks! i didnt know that violate tos, oops

wait, what if i use custom firmware?

[fast hearth]

that's also unfortunately out of the question

judging by the price you got it for you could always buy a used (make sure it's in good condition!) OnePlus 5 or higher and sell the a10s to cover the cost

[languid juniper]

great, thanks!

[supple tide]

I'm just wondering if someone else's phone was catching a critical error while playing? My phone turns off after a while after starting Sky

[winter ingot]

Can someone send me the download link for sky on android

Im trying to force my friends to play and they say its not on android when i know it is

[sharp spoke]

Pretty late with response but here it is. Their devices might not be compatible if they can't see it in play store.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tgc.sky.android

[cedar rock]

Has all text in the game become annoyingly huge for everyone or just me? My phone had an android update around the same time as the Days of Fortune event started so I don't know which update could have messed it up.

[sharp spoke]

Mine is still normal. Android 10 btw

[cedar rock]

I'm on Android 11

[tame comet]

Mine is fine on Android 11.

[karmic mesa]

Same

However, I have heard where Android 11 on some Samsung devices caused really big or really small text

[cedar rock]

friend constellation is just a mess

[tame comet]

Ahh, Samsung, always wants to be different. No text issues here anywhere for a stock Pixel rom, which is closest to AOSP you can get, really

[karmic mesa]

Cass, are you on Samsung?

[cedar rock]

galaxy s10 yes

[tame comet]

That's pretty huge text. I'd check your display "style" customization. That's where you can change font. Maybe it is an artifact of that or dpi?

Any of these three settings can mess with your system font size.

[karmic mesa]

Try this out too if that doesn't work.

I enabled the setting that that guy was talking about and it didn't cause my font to go wonky... I'm on the Samsung Galaxy S20 FE 5G with Android 11... Maybe it's handled differently on this one though...

[tame comet]

That's still pretty big

[cedar rock]

hmm yeah the full screen apps thing didn't change anything, I'll try to mess around with some font settings instead

[karmic mesa]

I have the internal resolution turned down... So it thinks it's a small phone

[tame comet]

The last quest objective takes up over half your screen.

[karmic mesa]

Is that better?

[tame comet]

Lol, screenshots from different perspectives. Yeah, looks normal now.

[karmic mesa]

Lol

[cedar rock]

much better, thanks

[karmic mesa]

Awesome

[short mirage]

Well my phone is samsung a10 well hwo do i download sky easily and i can litterally play it

[fast hearth]

iirc a10 is 32bit, Sky requires 64bit

[short mirage]

Oh

[twin hazel]

Can the SM-P610NZABXAC (samsung tab S6 lite) run sky?

[karmic mesa]

Yes

[twin hazel]

ok

[fast hearth]

@everyone
An open world, social adventure type game that is Sky - Children of the Light, brings us many joy in multiple aspects. The game itself is about creating new friendship, helping each other on the path through the worlds, unlocking cosmetics by saving spirits but firstly, experience the main story. Each section is unique, followed by different background melodies, new entities and area details. Except for that, there are new seasonal spirits that come every other season that provide us with even newer looks.
However, as a veteran player, all of the positive aspects of the game have been grayed out due to many game breaking bugs, missing features and mistakes that have been made in each update.
I respect the work for seasons, their maps and animations but I had my second thoughts about purchasing a 15 dollar pass for this season. A bug that locks the camera view port has affected the gameplay a lot negatively as I could not rotate the view and have navigated my character in the wrong direction most of the time, not to mention new players were definitely confused. Lighting up spirits (Season of Dreams) would often not create the path that way we could not save them and unlock their cosmetics.
Bugs in general: burning up plant (darkness) for wax (wax is collected to forge a candle, which is a currency) is not always efficient as it sometimes either slowly burns that would take about 10 seconds or it does not burn at all and it sabotages our candle run and our time. The worst version of this bug is when it requires more players to burn down the large plant. Only iOS has a feature to listen to music from iTunes inside the game without in-game melody interfering. Android users do not have that option yet and it has been nearly a year since the game was published on Google Store. There has been a request for volume settings that would adjust background melody, ambient, sound effects ect., yet no response.

After story has been completed, a player is guaranteed to have fun for at least a month because the gameplay is too repetitive and time consuming, not to mention it is battery draining as well no matter what graphic quality is set. The goal majority is going for is to unlock as many cosmetics as possible. By doing so, everyone is collecting wax in all realms and it usually takes over 2 hours. There is a great difference between the first two weeks of playing and two or more months of playing. The gameplay turns extremely monotonous until new season comes (every two to three months). Another absurd nonsense is gifting friends a light. If a player wants to gift everyone a light in their friendlist, why not have a feature that would automatically send a light to everyone in one tap? Sky is a social game afterall, you should have considered that many players are social and may have hundreds, if not a thousand people in their friendlist and sending that many gifts manually is just tiring. Gifting someone a heart for 3 candles as a mission makes no sense if my reward in return is getting only 1 candle unless it's about seasonal ones. The player indicator that is shown when we make a call is no longer public because of the past spamming harassment - instead of making it non-public, you could have made a feature to toggle on and off private location, so if other players release a call, I as a player can stay hidden, I won't be shown to them. Message boats can sometimes be in a way of interacting with a teleport button (the shrine at Home) because players love to overload the small pond with message boats, not to mention how it's hard to differentiate whether do I see wax or message boats from great distances. You could have added an option that toggles visibility on and off for message boats. The last part of The Vault sometimes leaves players immobile as the camera gets stuck after they sat to ascend up.

The removal of candles in The Vault behind doors at ground floor and first floor was not necessary. The skip button for cutscenes does not work as it should in some areas like Daylight Prairie - after the candles have been lit at the tower, the skip button is pressed then we are forced to watch the cutscene for around 10 seconds. The option to toggle off cutscenes should be added. The area in Daylight Prairie that requires 8 players to ascend up is a huge waste of time when one or more are AFK or 8th player does not appear at all. Sanctuary Island has epileptic texture glitches. Sometimes "server jumps" occur - when a friend dissapears in-game because two players are distant in real time (example: North America - East Europe). There's many bugs it contains but I have listed enough.
It seems like a well made game with never-ending excitement and joy because we as beginners perceive things promising at first glance, especially going through the main breath-taking story. But as we get experienced and dig deep into the code, we realise it has many errors, there's not much left to explore and you will set yourself materialistic goals - to obtain as much winged light as possible and to unlock all cosmetics from regular and seasonal spirits which turns quite boring and may take ages unless you have paid for every single pass from the very beginning. Sadly, even friendships comes to an end for everyone as we all have our obligations in real life. Only children may stick longer to the game than grown up users. Sometimes I think to myself this company does not want to fix the issues on purpose because the more time we lose on their app, the more beneficial for then since spending time on apps is a profit. Also, customer service is awful as they care more about numbers of players rather than helping out an individual. Their responses may take up to a week but even when they respond, requests get neglected.

Some people realise all of this eventually and see no point of playing anymore, so they give up. And that is the true ending of Sky.  2/5

[karmic mesa]

Um

[latent shuttle]

that's a lot

[karmic mesa]

Ya

[twin hazel]

help thats too many words-

[coarse spruce]

I-... don't think that's a question or an answer to a question

[coarse spruce]

I suggest copy pasting that into #live-feedback

[coarse spruce]

Also the removal of the candles was a bug... I suggest checking out #known-issues

[karmic mesa]

Yeah I just finished reading it... It's just one big complaint

Thooo... Everything they said is true

[coarse spruce]

I agree with it a lot on some points... but its a bit inappropriate considering the topic of this chat room

[karmic mesa]

Yes

[coarse spruce]

The real only issue is how it seems a little... nitpicky when it goes after the candle removal. For an in-depth complaint, you'd think they would've searched the known issues channel before saying it was intentional

[karmic mesa]

Yeah, there's that... The removal of the candles didn't even bother me

[tame comet]

Working with git on a daily basis, I know it wasn't intentional. Most likely since the current live is pretty much the same as beta, they forgot a build switch or something and built with beta candles instead of live.

[coarse spruce]

It was only like 9 candles anyway, too??? And yeah, that makes sense

[twin hazel]

18 cuz there's the flying race AND sliding race

[karmic mesa]

Also... They left the server XD

[coarse spruce]

Bruhhh

[twin hazel]

Moving! On!

[karmic mesa]

Lol

[tame comet]

Oh, update: Sky will still load if you fail hardware CTS. It will only not load if you fail basic integrity check. You will still show up as incompatible in play store if you fail hardware check though, so you won't know if this happened until you need to update.

[karmic mesa]

There is one thing I've asked for... But I can't see them adding it to and I'm not really going to push it... >.<
But I wanted an adjustable graphics menu... Do like other games and just lay it all out in front of the players to adjust...
A manually adjustable render distance, render resolution, Shadow quality, anti-aliasing, clouds quality, being able to adjust these would benefit both sides of the spectrum... The people running on the worst could turn everything down and get smoother frame rates, and the people who want to make content for YouTube will be able to turn things up for the quality... And then Android will finally be able to match up iOS on gameplay experience.

But it'll never happen

[pearl jackal]

The real question for me is the darkness burning speed. My friend starting to leave my cr group cuz they want a more quicker burning speed. And thus less ppl more server merge, and less hard work..

[twin hazel]

roblox does let you control graphics quality which just makes the screen more pixely and the range of vision shorter

[karmic mesa]

Yeah... Any option like that except for the presets... imagine being able to turn down all of the graphics... (Make it look terrible) but set the frame rate to 60... For people who had devices as we as the A20 or worse would be in heaven because of the smooth frame rate

[sleek torrent]

Yes you can

I have it

It runs good in most places after the latest update

But it thermal throttles

And vault is unplayable with friends

Basically anywhere with friends causes lag

[sleek torrent]

Omg I asked that once 😂. Like low Res high fps will be a dream for me

When I played at 60%res

I was able to get more than 30 but the cap wouldn't allow it

[karmic mesa]

Yeah

[finite sandal]

Anyone have issues sitting on portals and not working? Like it just takes a tiny step and doesn't sit down?

I was hoping to get help with this 😭💁🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️

[thorn onyx]

Try manually sitting on the circle

[finite sandal]

Doesn't work

Seems most emotes and friendship emotes aren't working

[karmic mesa]

O.o

[finite sandal]

Can't offer carry

It stops the emote in milliseconds

[thorn onyx]

Do report it as a bug in #bug-reports-android

[fast hearth]

Hm
They probably could have worded this better and there's a few things I definitely disagree with
But I definitely agree with the core of it

I've seen this kind of thing happen to bigger game studios following the "ongoing game" model where there's always something new
the devs' time gets sucked into creating the next new event instead of fixing the bugs and QoL requests that slowly pile up and then you just step back and ask yourself why you're still continuing this cycle for no return other than a new cosmetic you'll never use
this is exactly why I stopped playing fortnite back when it was popular

I'm not saying it's the devs' fault but it's a very common side effect of the business model they chose for Sky

the only reason I'm still playing this game is because I can't play in my college band because of COVID so I use the game as a way to keep myself playing music (as limited as it is)
if I hadn't started spending small parts of my free time just working on stuff to perform for people I would have ditched this game months ago for many of the reasons in the text wall above

You know what I think TGC should do
https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/community/topics/360000789911-API?sort_by=votes
https://project-slippi.nolt.io/
Have a feature request board for the community
Have different boards for sections specific to operating system and then a general section for cross-platform issues

[short mirage]

how dodo I download sky in my samsung a10

[fast hearth]

a10 is 32-bit so incapable of running 64-bit apps

and too weak in general

you'll need a better phone

[karmic elk]

I agree some of them and disagree some of them

The bugs are annoying but not game breaking.

[short mirage]

oh ok thks

[karmic elk]

And the burning plants are mostly ping issue as I am on Malaysia and the server mostly on US powered by AWS

So that's probably ping

Also ,bugs. TGC is not a millionaire company or something. Bug's are very common but not game breaking. We need tolerance for small company making a masterpiece

[fast hearth]

I'm an American, I can count the amount of times I've had burning issues on one hand

that too yes

[karmic elk]

!beatsbyelder

[upper sail]

The headphones appear on your character when you play music or audio in another app while playing Sky. You can use them any time by putting on some tunes! (iOS only, until it's implemented for android)

[karmic elk]

This also why the Android doesn't have headphones.

[fast hearth]

I know Android is fragmented and all but some sort of progress update on how they plan to eventually implement it would be nice

I've heard A11 centralizes audio detection somehow?

Because yeah I get it's hard to do as is but it's one of the most requested features from people and the fact that we don't even have a volume slider yet is, um...

[karmic elk]

Vault missing candles are accidental and not intensionl from TGC so candles will came back

At some point

[fast hearth]

so I think it's important to note the distinction between bugs and QoL changes
like the volume slider thing I mentioned or the thing Critic mentioned with changes to the call mechanic (it really should be opt-in, I used to argue for that a lot when it happened)

[fast hearth]

@fast hearth is this your alt or something

[karmic elk]

Qol changes?

[fast hearth]

Quality of Life

technical term for general tweaks

[karmic elk]

Still don't understand

Any feedback just send to #live-feedback or #wishlist-and-ideas-archived

[fast hearth]

yeah this whole thing definitely belongs there

[karmic elk]

TGC at least heard your feedback and bug report. Other company like Gajin the War Thunder creator sometimes make things worst. Call of duty also have that problem like overpower weapon that everyone rant about and doesn't fix it

[short mirage]

I can finally download sky yes

[winged wave]

Hello, my cousin just had her new phone which is android 9 and has 3GB RAM. But this happens the game won't open and it doesn't show in her play store. What can she do to install the game?

[upper thicket]

@winged wave
1- seems like your cousin downloaded the game from a 3rd party app. The game is only officially available through google app store or iOS game center, and soon, the switch.
2- if your cousin's phone doesn't have the required specs to run sky (you can find those in the pins), it can't work. RAM and android number aren't the only specs required unfortunately. (Seems like their phone unfortunately doesn't have the required specs, which is also why the game doesn't appear in their google app store)

[graceful light]

How to change font in the game?

[sleek torrent]

Samsung A10 is very popular

Too popular for my liking

[karmic mesa]

Yeah

[karmic elk]

I think your cousin have a phone with old or not supported Vulkan device. And we can't help you. Save some bucks and buy a mid range phone since mid range phone is cheap and have Vulkan if you cousin look closing when he buy a new phone

My Android 4.4 old phone have Vulkan

[karmic mesa]

They likely have a budget phone...

[karmic elk]

Is powerVR have lack of Vulkan Support or not?

[karmic mesa]

Some have it but I've encountered a lot where they don't

Older iPhones actually utilized PowerVR

[karmic elk]

They probably have budget phone with PowerVR

[karmic elk]

Nice Image BTW

[placid gull]

Hi guys, does linking to gmail erase my progress of a facebook-linked account?

[prisma iris]

No, it's an additional layer of protection

That way you have more than one way to retrieve your game data

[burnt drum]

Hi! I have a friend who I'm trying to get to play sky, but it doesn't come up in the google play store when he looks it up. I've asked him to try the full game name and to look up the company name, but nothing is working. I was thinking perhaps it's because his device might be incompatible, but I'm not sure. He's using an LGQ7+ if that helps.

[karmic mesa]

Even if that phone was compatible, it would lack the power to play it well. The likely issue is either a 32-bit operating system or no Vulkan support. Both of which cannot be fixed.

[prisma iris]

sounds like a Vulkan issue as the phone is 64-bit according to google

[fast hearth]

is the software 64-bit though

some manufacturers cheap out and put a 32-bit version of the Android OS on certain lower end 64-bit models

[prisma iris]

says the processor is 64-bit

[karmic mesa]

Yes, there are hundreds of phones with a 64-bit processor while also having a 32-bit operating system

It's the manufacturer's literally cheaping out on it and handicapping the system

Samsung is really bad about it...

Snapdragon can do their part and make it 64-bit compatible... but that doesn't mean LG or Samsung is going to make the operating system 64-bit

[prisma iris]

ah money

[past arrow]

Hello. Why don't you share Google play link with your friend ? You can do it from inside your Google play store.

It can be temporary issue, different region or device incompatibility as well

[karmic mesa]

It's more likely the phone is not powerful enough to run it

[fast hearth]

I need helpp

Help

For last few days everything i write in sky is red. No one can see anything i write. I can't even say hello. This includes planting any message in meditation or boat. 😭😭😭😭😭

[karmic mesa]

[fast hearth]

Hi dreamfyre

[sharp spoke]

I would contact the support team in game, they might be able to see what's causing it.

[fast hearth]

Thanks Pakka

I did

Am waiting for response

[sharp spoke]

Yeah they have a pretty long wait time atm ~6 days. It might take a while to get back to you, but I'm sure they will.

[fast hearth]

Yea

Hope i am not blocked on purpose for some reason unknown to me

[karmic mesa]

You could have said something and someone reported you... But I don't know how that works or if that's even a possible punishment...

[opal marten]

Hi! I have a question... Last night I was at home with my friend who plays on iOS and he was burning the light balls that the dragon left and getting lights from the explosions but when I burnt them I didn't get anything :( . I play on Android and was wondering if this was a bug or if this was normal. I am very dissapointed because at the start of the event TGC announced that the dragon would bring extra light but it seems to be for iOS players only sob.

[kind kayak]

i've been able to collect light from the dragon most of the time. its mentioned in #known-issues that some players haven't been able to collect light. i would try to restart the game and see if you can collect light the next time the dragon comes

[opal marten]

Oh I see... Thank u!!! I'll try! I hope this time works!

[karmic mesa]

I'm losing my mind rn...

[prisma iris]

wow that's a massive discount

[short mirage]

damm

[karmic mesa]

Yeah

I feel slightly ripped off with my s20

[prisma iris]

I feel that

everything seems to go on sale after you purchase it

[karmic mesa]

Yeah

[prisma iris]

if I ever get into Android
I will remember this

[karmic mesa]

That's if it still remains

It is a discount after all

[fast hearth]

WAIT WHAT LOL

[karmic mesa]

XD

[prisma iris]

I just got a new phone so it will be a long, long time

[fast hearth]

$215 ARE YOU KIDDING ME

[karmic mesa]

Ik

[fast hearth]

LINK

LINK NOW

[prisma iris]

If anyone is in the market for a new phone to play Sky (or just a new phone)
check it out

[karmic mesa]

That's on Samsung's official page

[prisma iris]

[karmic mesa]

How about the regular model being only a hundred

[fast hearth]

this is insane

[karmic mesa]

My a20 cost 120

[fast hearth]

waaaaaaaaaaaait a minute.

OH NEVER MIND THOSE ARE THE UNLOCKED PRICES

[karmic mesa]

XD

[fast hearth]

YEAH OKAY

[prisma iris]

Holy-

[karmic mesa]

SD 888 anyone?

[prisma iris]

I'm crying rn

[patent kernel]

me with a phone that had a deal where it only costed $30 USD

[prisma iris]

ah nvm, it's with an eligible trade-in

ah yes, the old bait and switch

[karmic mesa]

XD

What qualifies as a trade-in?

[prisma iris]

the 6.7 inch is 814.99 without a trade-in

there's a dropdown menu in the buy menu where you can select trade-in options

[karmic mesa]

Can I bring the ancient S7 and get the s21 400 dollars

[fast hearth]

wait

what

[prisma iris]

614.99

wait no

714.99 unlocked

it's 614.99 if you get it with a carrier

[karmic mesa]

Ah

[prisma iris]

it's a 200 usd trade-in value

allegedly

[fast hearth]

ouch

[prisma iris]

ye

bait and switch

thus endeth the excitement

[karmic elk]

Jess Christ, 99$

[short mirage]

is the sky release april 6,2020 beacsue I have a10 and I cant download it

[tame comet]

The A10 is a 32 bit phone. It will most likely never be compatible with sky as sky is a 64 bit game.

[karmic elk]

Yes, A10 is 32bit

[short mirage]

oh

[karmic mesa]

Yup

[short mirage]

so sad I cant play with my friends

[karmic elk]

The only fix is buy a new phone

[short mirage]

I wish this tablet wont do anything even my a10

[karmic elk]

[short mirage]

I want a9 do downlaod it

he said me this thing

64bits

[prisma iris]

you're in luck, there's a lot of helpful people here that can advise you on what sorts of phones would give you the best performance for the least amount of money

[polar kettle]

f, i recently had an a11 but upgraded to a realme 6i

[short mirage]

can I early acess my samsung a10 I will changed time and date if this works

[fast hearth]

what

no

that's not how that works

[karmic mesa]

[fast hearth]

your device is incapable of running Sky. if you want to play Sky, wait for it to release on Switch or PC, or buy a good phone.

[short mirage]

I am litterally panicing to this beautiful game

I want to see you guys

[tame comet]

Sadly, Samsung cheaped out on your phone and developed the software as 32 bit. There isn't a way to make it 64 bit without Samsung updating the phone to 64 bit which is a long shot.

[karmic mesa]

Yeah I can't see them making that jump

[short mirage]

so sad

I am waiting to the old version of samsung called a9

[tame comet]

That model has always been 32 bit. Going to an older version of your software won't change that.

[short mirage]

well my friend alamy have a9 she download the sky

[karmic mesa]

The a9 is not as old as you think

It should be powerful enough to play sky though it will definitely struggle

[short mirage]

waph I can literally download sky there

look at this

thts alamy she has a9

[karmic mesa]

Yes it should be powerful enough to play sky

But it will struggle

[short mirage]

how will struggle

[karmic mesa]

It will struggle graphically to play the game smoothly

In other words it will lag

[polar kettle]

can confirm, I have the equivalent chip in terms of performance

[patent kernel]

I have a moto z4 and it runs sky pretty well, but it can lag depending on the area I'm in

[polar kettle]

it'll lag when there are multiple people or krill

[patent kernel]

Yeah, i mostly lag when I'm not alone in a server

Or with very few people

[short mirage]

oh

[polar kettle]

there must be alot of people in vault cuz it always crashes before i can get on the 2nd floor or inside offic

[short mirage]

how about oppo the latest version

[karmic mesa]

[polar kettle]

latest version oppo?

[short mirage]

beacuse my couisn have the latest

[polar kettle]

depends on the phone

[short mirage]

wanna see later

[polar kettle]

sure

[short mirage]

k

anyways I am gonna trash my tablet

[fast hearth]

I would recommend buying a OnePlus 5 or higher if you're on a budget

[tame comet]

Vault is due to all the running pieces in the first 3 floors. There are a ton of assets and lower end devices can't handle the render requests. It's actually the one place I recommend carry rocketing to see floor 2 and 3 without the elevator magic going on.

This is what slows your device down in vault.

[short mirage]

This is about my phone

[tame comet]

I, erm, would suggest removing that image. It has your phone's unique identifier and phone number. Yeah, the A10 is 32 bit.

[short mirage]

Oh sorry

[tame comet]

All good. The about device info isn't really needed. All A10s are 32 bit, sadly.

[short mirage]

Ye

[night spade]

hi can anyone help my friend who's realme C2 user to download sky on her phone? I badly want to play sky with her

[short mirage]

I just cover now my number and etc

[karmic elk]

He mean the Android version maybe

I have ColourOS11 and it runs Sky no difference to COS10

But I can record internal video without any issues

[hollow narwhal]

I think i asked it before but i cant remember what the answer was; why are android screenshots so pixelly compared to ios? I tried screenshotting on every different resolution and theyre all the same. Im on a samsung note s20

[karmic mesa]

That's a known issue with Snapdragon chipsets

[hollow narwhal]

Ah, thank you

[karmic mesa]

Mhm!

[karmic elk]

Use the in game screenshot instead system screenshot

[karmic mesa]

That's the issue

[karmic mesa]

It's more pixelated than it should

[karmic elk]

Although is not the same scene but you will see the difference

[karmic mesa]

It's only Snapdragon phones with the issue

This is from a Snapdragon phone

[karmic elk]

I have Snapdragon 665

[karmic mesa]

And yours has the pixelation

Here is an Exynos phone

Huge difference

[short mirage]

Iw sih theres a big news to the 32bits or somethi g o want really to play

[karmic mesa]

Yup, You can see the pixelization

[karmic elk]

Sometimes there's some pixels sometimes don't

[karmic mesa]

It's only snapdragon phones doing it... And it started around July 13 2020

We did heavy research on it

Samsung Galaxy S7 - Snapdragon 820 - Fail
Samsung Galaxy S20 FE 5G - Snapdragon 865 - Fail
Samsung Galaxy Note 20 5G - Snapdragon 865+ - Fail
Samsung Galaxy A50 - Exynos 9610 - Pass
Samsung Galaxy A20 - Exynos 7884 - Pass
Xiaomi Redmi Note 9S - Snapdragon 720G - Fail
Samsung Galaxy S10 - Exynos 9820 - Pass
Samsung Galaxy S10+ - Snapdragon 855 - Fail
Google Pixel 4 XL - Snapdragon 855 - Fail
Asus Zenfone 3 - Snapdragon 625 - Fail
Google Pixel 3a - Snapdragon 670 - Fail
OnePlus 6 - Snapdragon 845 - Fail
Xiaomi Redmi Note 9 - MediaTek Helio G85 - Pass
Motorola Moto G Stylus - Snapdragon 665 - Fail
LG G8 ThinQ - Snapdragon 855 - Fail
Motorola Moto G7 Power - Snapdragon 632 - Fail
Google Pixel 5 - Snapdragon 765G - Fail
Google Pixel XL - Snapdragon 821 - Pass

[karmic elk]

You should also add my A92 as Fail

[short mirage]

I have been thinking of ac market have sky

I didnt not mention it