lore-discussion-spoilers

[restive moth]

Also I actually came here to ask and I wonder if anyone can explain to me why

So I was looking through fanart of the elders and I found an art that labelled Teth to be a traitor, Tsadi to be a dog and Lamed to be a liar

I understand abt Teth and Tsadi but why Lamed being a liar? Is there something she's keeping from us?

[strange olive]

Wait what are the Elders names? I dont think I'm aware of that yet

[restive moth]

Daleth - Isle
Ayin - Prairie
Teth - Forest
Sah and Mekh - Valley (respectively)
Tsadi - GW
Lamed - Vault

And Alef - Eden (the king)

[strange olive]

Also you said you understand about Teth being a traitor and Tsadi being a dog. May I know why they are called as such?

[restive moth]

I love how how the first three elders are absolutely gigantic and the other 4 are just very tall but not gigantic

[strange olive]

The small head but big body got me wheezing ngl

[restive moth]

Can anyone pls send what words are censored in this server istg

I typed out a long and very family friendly paragraph only for it to not send what in the crab is this what did I say??

The amount of words being filtered in this server is p ridiculous tbvh if I must say

I'll write another one holdon smh

[torn eagle]

Is this found in a mural or smth---

The one with spoiler tag

[restive moth]

Nono its the current event in beta rn

You can go over to #beta-screenshots-videos to see the photos they've taken if you're curious

[sonic ocean]

you’re not allowed to post beta stuff here until it’s either scrapped or comes to live

[rugged jackal]

You’re not allowed to post beta content here, only live stuff
Can you keep your headcanons relying on beta stuff to yourself until it comes to live, please? Thank you

[restive moth]

There should be a beta lore channel ngl
Hard for ppl to ask for lore but this one is banned to ask for the continuation of beta ones

[harsh pecan]

I understand why there isn’t but you can still ask beta lore stuff in the beta discussion channel I think so it’s not that bad

[hollow acorn]

Sorry for sudden question, is this concept art from switch trailer concept art?

[hollow acorn]

Oh, it was right and I just found same content source link here, sorry

[nimble ingot]

It seems to be the old concept art for the wasteland elder (I think?)
Back when the elders were once considered to be animals.
Dawn was a vulture, Day was either a Lion or bull, Forest was a Lynx/Kitsune, Valley were possibly jackals/wolves?, Wasteland was a crab/spider monster, and Vault.. I am not sure Possibly a Whale since it is the odd one out and the tiny "teth's friend" note (teth is forest elder).

[rigid mural]

Vault has a monkey I think, I know krii has the pic but I can't find it, it's an orangutan thing climbing up bookshelves

[nimble ingot]

I know what you mean, one moment

Top left

(just realised the earlier image is the same one 🤦‍♂️ )

[rigid mural]

I think teth's friend is Ayin ! They even have the whale mask on concept art & on their temple in live !

Oh wow I am definitely a very observant person /s

[nimble ingot]

It is possible more than one animal design was considered for the elders, if not for possible more than the 6 we have.

[rigid mural]

I think the king's fursona would be a krill but like, not basic.

[nimble ingot]

A dragon king does sound epic.

[coarse kernel]

Grandma of the forest is seen giving out buns . Are these like normal buns or Bao buns (Chinese steamed buns) ?

[hushed steeple]

where did you find this concept ?were there others with it ?

[hollow acorn]

https://www.instagram.com/p/CYWXJkaK-hx/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

[hushed steeple]

Thank you ^^

[eternal totem]

They used to be colored before being changed to what they are now, I honestly think they’re just pastry buns with custard

[compact shale]

Because if they were colored they'd look like Grandma just plucked out some darkfruits and gave them to us

Not sure what kind of implications that gives but interesting

GRANGRAN DON'T BE AFRAID OF GIVING THE PRIDESAUCE EVERY NOW AND THEN COME ON

[eternal totem]

Maybe each bun is a different flavor of darkfruit

[late mirage]

Hi

[nimble ingot]

What do you call a fruit in space?

A star fruit.

[marsh rivet]

does lorechat want me to throw more seasonal lgbt headcannons into the world?

[compact shale]

I think that would taste great

I've heard many headcanons as to what the buns are and my headcanon is that

It's been each of the things that Cozy predicted, depending on the time. Belonging Grandma, like all other grandmas, has an arsenal of great dishes, but is terrible at presentation so all of their dishes look the same.

[harsh pecan]

Oh no…that

[digital willow]

Yooo, since the elders used to be animals do you think they'd have animal masks for each realm at some point?

[lofty totem]

So far i think forest only has one

On top of the temple

[nimble ingot]

There is one mask of the old elder designs you can see in the game today.
At the top of the door frame in the Forest temple, is a mask of the Forest elder's old Lynx/Kitsune Design.

[celest palm]

if light creatures got their light extracted to make the power crystals, I was thinking the same thing if they did that to the dark creatures and so begins the eden crystals

[lofty totem]

For me the eden crystals are probably just overused power diamonds like the eden explosion theory

[nimble ingot]

Eden crystals sponsored by Galaxy note 7 batteries.

[polar forge]

Goooood mooooorniiiing!
Woo

[celest palm]

y know the orbs are like the placeholder for the urchins and grandma's pastries

[polar forge]

Have a cup of water lore chat

🥤

Or perhaps...
Tea?

🍵

Hmm... Is anyone a coffee person?

☕

[digital willow]

Do you think It'll be an actual mask?

[digital willow]

More of a hot cocoa fan lol.

[polar forge]

Then that coffee emoji can also be cocoa

[nimble ingot]

Well... It is/was a mask. Now it is a relic of the past and hangs there as part of the temple decor.

Even part of the Day temple's design is reminiscent to the old Day elder's mask.

[eternal totem]

Yes, I knew that

[celest palm]

I think this is the process of powering the crystals

1. Gathering some resources, aka the reason the Treasure Reef has a mineshaft

2. They then put the mantas on those 2 bubble columns for experimentation

3. The extraction tower, aka the factory that powers the diamonds

The Bigger the manta, the more crystals they developed

as extra, I think when the mantas are all out of light, they became krills, but this is just my theory

[raw crypt]

Those look to be beta content, please move to #beta-screenshots-videos since beta content isn’t allowed here

Thank you!

[sharp lichen]

Here’s what I think the fursona of each elder would be:

Isle is Egret
Prairie is Water Buffalo
Forest is Deer
Valley is Puma
Wasteland is Rhino
Vault is Elephant or Dolphin

[marsh rivet]

absolutely valid

[uncut pond]

Valley Elder(s) being a puma is oddly fitting

[tough coral]

hey question is it normal to see whatever tiny fragments of official lore do exist and just ignore them if they don't bring me joy? because every so often I'll see something that just doesn't fit with my tightly woven nest of headcanons and theories and just say "No :)"

[sharp lichen]

It’s a controversial topic, to be sure. Although it’s always useful to be open to new opinions, not all opinions are good

[wanton flume]

Question Why doesn’t the Big eden diamond corrupt the Beam of light

[violet sundial]

Uh, i guess? I mean to be fair yes because its about doing what you like, not necessarily what’s official. Although here most of us go off of official material if i’m not mistaken, so like… hmm

[sharp lichen]

I think it’s because the beam of light is just that powerful

[distant turtle]

I think it was the beam of light that shattered the diamond, personally

[lofty totem]

I think the eden diamond creates the beam of light

[uncut pond]

I think the beam of light is a pseudo-natural occurrence that requires the influence of the Eden Elder to exist (I believe in the "king is the diamond" theory so it makes sense that the diamond is there)

[rigid mural]

Yeah, for example when a dev says the days of rainbow guide may not be rallying thrillseeker, I just ignore it.

[uncut pond]

Hey, if they said "may" then they're not stating anything :>

[rigid mural]

They're still staying vague to not upset homophobes during an event inspired by pride.

[uncut pond]

Such is the way of capitalism

"you earn your freedom, and we'll be there to celebrate with you. After you've fought for it. And we'll take part of the credit."

[rigid mural]

I get it but also you can't make pride events without breaking some rules, such is the nature of celebrating minorities that are sometimes still illegal to identify as.

Anyway yeah, the lore is up to interpretation to encourage you to make your own stories; if you feel a lore thing is getting in the way of your storytelling, litterally nobody will complain.

(okay but genuine question, if a dev confirmed the queerness of a character from the game here on discord without it being clear within it, would it be incentive enough for governments to ban Sky even though the blatantly gay stuff happened outside of the game ?)

[frigid tinsel]

usually governments ban or censor content if there's queerness explicitly in the content itself, not implied on social media

[uncut pond]

Not sure, but I suppose not since a lot of media evades bans by using poor dubs and editing scenes out even if the original is still canon

[lyric isle]

in a way I’m not a fan of Rainbow because of what it might imply within the kingdom in terms of queer spirits

I’d Rather Not have these issues and fights for rights implied in this game’s universe pls, they’re worrying enough outside of it
is that weird

[frigid tinsel]

it could be that Days of Rainbow is a celebration that, while based on irl pride events, still is a holiday to the ancestors

[lyric isle]

have made headcanons for the event which I think I shall organise into something coherent

[rigid mural]

I reckon it's a complicated topic, I do wanna point out Homespace is not entirely canon so maybe DoR is not entirely canon (because ancestors aren't humans), as opposed to DoN which happens in Sanctuary.

[lyric isle]

idk maybe uhhhh
maybe this is the rainy time of year and it’s celebrated by appreciating the rainbows that come out so often as a result?? idk

maybe them appearing is a phenomenon and it’s celebrated with wearing rainbow motifs
idk

[frigid tinsel]

Days of Rainbow to the ancestors does not have to imply that the ancestors discriminated against queerness, rather that they used the holiday as excuse to have fun and unite communities, as though winter holidays bringing joy among family during the cold harsh climate

[lyric isle]

yesss I’ll be stealing that idea
I love it

[uncut pond]

It's not that weird I suppose. I personally don't like when media tries to include diversity while trying to avoid showing the diverse struggles those people have to go through and I'd rather see those topics actually be dealt with, but that might just be me
The way you feel is absolutely valid

[lyric isle]

the struggles being shown is veeery important. this is just the last piece of media I want it in is all

it makes me feel validated while struggling with my gender so no thank you

[rigid mural]

THIS
Maybe DoR is a celebration of diversity since rainbows are the fragmentation of colors from white light, yet still are united in being light.
And you can draw parallels with pride irl but not say they are the same.

[uncut pond]

No yeah I completely understand that, Sky despite the obvious relation to climate change and our own imminent doom is escapism for a lot of folks

[frigid tinsel]

alternatively, I would like to see media that includes diversity but isn't about the issues, treating it with a sense of normality. we already deal with a lot of issues irl, the media we consume for entertainment can also be an escape and make them feel good about ourselves, showing an ideal world.

[rigid mural]

Xe/Xem's your spirit to add a bit of spice to the gender soup.

[frigid tinsel]

throw in a handful of ze/hir

[lyric isle]

this is what Sky is for me

[rigid mural]

Ey/em for the fans

[lyric isle]

voi/void Nod moment (this is a real thing I do)

[uncut pond]

Yeah I suppose that's good as well, but seeing issues and struggles get represented is also important, if those things never get brought up then a lot of people will continue to pretend those issues don't exist while said issues progressively get worse

It'd be nice if we could have both things really, but sadly we barely have either

[sonic ocean]

sprinkle in some ne/nym or ne/nim

[frigid tinsel]

well, one piece of media does not have to be everything at once.

[rigid mural]

I think it's where the lore being up to interpretation is a strength, you can have your ideal world or a representation of struggles depending on the story you wanna tell.

[lyric isle]

I’m not saying that discrimination should be ignored - it should absolutely be discussed and fought - just Not in this game where Everyone is no biney and this is the only thing I know that has that and it makes me feel validated and loved and likely others too, please and thank you

[uncut pond]

I'm not saying it has to be, I meant it more like having varied media

[frigid tinsel]

I already get people irl hee-haaing about using my proper pronouns. I don't really want to consume media I use to relax and escape that shows the same damn thing, further stressing me out

[rigid mural]

Understandable. I also do think ancestors don't really have gender like us so the issues (if there are any) would be different imo.

[lyric isle]

like. the spirits have legit helped in exploring this? it’s nice to talk about characters with nothing confirmed as a way to feel seen, while in a place where the binary is rigid and trans rights sadly have a way to go (they are getting there though. a lot of people are for them, it’s just getting them to be a thing against stuffy bereaucracy sadly)

idk I’m not wanting Rainbow to be implying that in any way please

[rugged jackal]

Henlo there lorechat how ya doin

[frigid tinsel]

how is Days of Rainbow, which emulates celebrating queerness and exploring diversity, worse than not having it all and pretending it doesn't exist?

[sonic ocean]

discrimination being in this game would make no sense since iirc most of the characters are implied or stated to be nonbinary (and it’s possible they have a view of gender/love that is different than how we see it)

you still get it in the form of players tho so

[lyric isle]

I’m super duper happy for Rainbow out-of-universe - concerned about what it means in-universe is all

there is most likely discrimination in the form of classism but idk if that’s relevant to this

[rigid mural]

I like to think maybe ancestors had to debate about the self being fluid or not ? Like some may think identities are set in stone and you're simply discovering what fits best as you go, while others believe you're your truest self at all points in time and your identity being something that may change without losing integrity (fyi my wording may be poor, I'm not in an english-speaking country)...

Could parallel darkness being stuff that stays static and won't move, and light being in a state of constant flux punctuated by deaths and rebirths.

[lyric isle]

dw your wording makes sense

if you didn’t say then I wouldn’t know

[sonic ocean]

now that i think abt it is there any proof that days of __ events are canon?

[frigid tinsel]

debatable

[rigid mural]

My idea doesn't translate well irl since some folks gotta discover the idea of being queer, while I'm assuming ancestors bathe in a diverse world.

[sonic ocean]

just like everything else in sky lore 😔

[lyric isle]

ok uh
I think Fortune, Bloom and Feast are for starters
probably Summer and Summer Lights too
Rainbow? debating

[rugged jackal]

My take is mostly no, like yeah past spirits show up but like
Did the ancestors really construct a big floating dragon with fireworks for no reason at all?

It would be amazing if they did, but still..

[rigid mural]

I mean, they do have flying boats.

[sonic ocean]

ive never seen any days of events except rainbow, bloom, an summer lights so

(and mischief/feast in beta last year)

[lyric isle]

I’m a late Enchantment kid so didn’t see this event but I also think Healing is canon

white poppies as symbolic of. say. maybe it started after everyone was dead as a war memorial holiday (like rememberance day or summat)

[sonic ocean]

i dont think any event that takes place in office is canon because i dont see office as canon

[rugged jackal]

Yeah I think office was confirmed to be not canon

[sonic ocean]

actually it would be really interesting to me if office turned out to be canon because i like media where the characters become aware they are fictional

[lyric isle]

oh no I’m considering bringing in headcanons about Enchantment (considering the cauldron) as to how Mischief could be because I am biased toward the season

maybe it’s a kinda. “pretend to be alchemists” day. mock spells and the like passed around - also real but harmless ones

assuming that coloured lights and stuff were brought by where the crew came from. a way of honouring that but in a fun fashion because creating spells is oft serious and tedious so why not look at it in a silly way to make it less so

[frigid tinsel]

I get you. discovering and embracing queerness is discovering and embracing one facet of self, one out of many aspects that include identity and improve self-esteem. while the ancestors, being agender beings, would have different conceptions of gender and sexuality than we irl do, those are not the only facets of identity brimming with diversity nor the only ones worth celebrating.

I really like your point about the rainbow being different colors of light but still light. given we know ancestor culture considered light spiritual, sacred, or at least a part of themselves, the rainbow is an excellent way of showing how they may differ yet nonetheless still be considered one of the whole and beautiful all together.

[lyric isle]

that’s such a beautiful statement I love that

[late mirage]

If I change my phone from android to iPhone

My information will lose ?

[lyric isle]

Ask your question in #questions-and-help ! This is the wrong channel for that.

[frigid tinsel]

I think this may best be suited for #questions-and-help

[rugged jackal]

Ask in #questions-and-help please, I don’t think any of us are cut out for questions like that

[sonic ocean]

now that i think abt it, it’s possible that skykids may have given spirits the idea for some events

[lyric isle]

anyway silly headcanon ramble. imagining Mischief as a kind of a prank day, involving spells - both fake and real

[rigid mural]

Yes ! YES ! I AM NODDING AT YOU SO HARD

[lyric isle]

also Vela. Slink icon gang 🤝
I requested this

[frigid tinsel]

There’s a thought that the Days of Sky event, which commentates the anniversary of Sky’s Live release, was made by skykids to celebrate their first arrival to the world / the birth of the first skykids.

[lyric isle]

oooOOOO I LOVE THAT

[sonic ocean]

if skykids are at least vaguely aware of irl celebrations (i feel like they might be, because you play as one) then

[late mirage]

Open tgc ‘ workplace ?

[lyric isle]

The office is not currently open, no - if that’s what you mean

please could you ask your questions in #questions-and-help next time? thank you

[rugged jackal]

Please ask any questions you have in #questions-and-help, please, this isn’t the right channel for asking these types of questions

[sonic ocean]

maybe i should experiment w my hcs actually. the convo the other day about if skykids are their own characters that have the ability to act seperately from the player made my mind go waa waa woo woo

[rigid mural]

This breaks the 4th wall a bit but I do like the thought of queer sky kids being comforted by spirits, Sky's a comforting game.

[sonic ocean]

sky already plays with the 4th wall just by having office and occasionally having NPCs that represent people who work at tgc so

[rigid mural]

A godsend, tried my hand at making my own but his look so so good 👌

[lyric isle]

I Was going to use the one with all five I asked for but
1/ I’m not brave enough
2/ They don’t all show up on circular format

[frigid tinsel]

Tempted to ask Slink for aroace Commodore

[sonic ocean]

wait i just had a thought. are there any other skykid NPCs other than the one who hangs out in office and guides people in during certain events?

[rigid mural]

Can't forget Ktjn showing up after Days of Summer Lights ended to point us to Days of Mischief early

[lyric isle]

(does anyone want the link to the post DMed? asking because links not allowed here is all. dw it’s nothing against rules I promise)

[rigid mural]

I am not saying anything.

[lyric isle]

the dev personas in Mischief?

[sonic ocean]

i forgot what those look like oops

[raw crypt]

teleports behind u

[lyric isle]

do it. I’m so happy at how mine turned out - speak of the devil!! Hiya!

[orchid jolt]

During some of those events, other similar skykid npcs may also be in the office (or office sub area if there is one), sometimes looking like an actual skykid or with the spirit look that's similar to a memory candle

[sonic ocean]

slink jumpscare

[rugged jackal]

This is the slink person you’re talking about? (hi btw)

[orchid jolt]

What do you think of the concept versions of krill?

I know a lot of people seem to like the teeth ones alot

[lyric isle]

tfw using memory candles for spirit cosplay skits because they make you look like one

[orchid jolt]

But I find myself preferring this kind

[rigid mural]

OH YEAH I LOVE THIS ONE

[rugged jackal]

THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE GAME??

[orchid jolt]

Admittedly, I'm not a fan of how it looks like darkness inhabiting the wire frame of a paper mache dragon's head, but other than that and the odd purple spots that kinda looks like eyes, I really like it

The whole paper mache frame of a dragon head is likely something unintentional that I noticed for some reason

I quite like the raggedy, wirey "head" and the "softer" shadow-tendril body

[rigid mural]

I like how they look like they are falling apart. I love krill.

[lyric isle]

this has the same energy as that tiny stick figure in the Abyss mural

[orchid jolt]

Ehhhh, in the same way the isle elder was once supposed to be a vulture. These are from back in the "planning days" of sky, before the final decisions were really made and different ideas were floating around

[rugged jackal]

I already nearly quit after getting krilled for the first time, this would have exasperated my megalohydrothalassophobia immediately and I would have probably never touched the game again

[lyric isle]

why does concept art for things tend to be more appealing than final versions though

probably because of it prompting imagination as to what these could be for and about as opposed to that already having happened?

[orchid jolt]

Correct probably. If the teeth ones were the ones in game, and the krill in the game now were just concept art, we probably would have found the actual krill more appealing/more interesting

[lyric isle]

yeah it’s definitely because it leaves it up to our imagination

[rugged jackal]

You guys want it in the game????

[orchid jolt]

The shadows kinda seem inspired by the teeth krill, just with a different facial feature (eyes) instead of the mouth/teeth

[raw crypt]

Plus concept art has no or less restrictions, the game is restricted by needing to run, 3d models, and making things look and move somewhat logically

[lyric isle]

I know I bring up Ex-Questgiver’s billion lanterns from that one ThatSkyShop art card an awful lot but it is fun imagining how and why that interaction is happening

and of course why they have so many lanterns

also also because I miss them and this big bit of content is reassuring so of course I’ll be thinking about it

[orchid jolt]

I mean, krill may need to eat, and they don't have any mouths in game! They must be starving! /j

[orchid jolt]

Have a photo of that?

[lyric isle]

“average ancestor owns 5 lanterns” factoid actualy just statistical error. average ancestor owns 1 lantern. Sleepy Traveller Spirit McSpiritface, who travels the world on a boat and owns 20,000 alone, is an outlier adn should have not been counted

[lyric isle]

here

this is the only official art of them actually doing something aside from being on the boat (aside from with staff) of Course I’m gonna think about it

[lyric isle]

yeah that’s very true

big misty krill would be fun but how are you supposed to Make That………

[orchid jolt]

...non-seasonal daily questgiver from before the statue gave quests/the boat merchant that is sometimes in the home area, but also with a scarf and 3 wedges??

[orchid jolt]

Honestly, agreed. I like it, but it's just... Wayyyyyy to much 3D modelling tbh

[orchid jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/ace-attorney-hold-it-wait-wright-phoenix-gif-11598650

Are.... are those two pinecones?!?!

[lyric isle]

I think those two are the same person

yeah they have a scarf here for some reason

[nimble ingot]

Pinecones.....

[white junco]

oh that’s so cool… imagine these + the LA krill roar. chilling

[rugged jackal]

Do you think that skykids could survive in lava, or have being in lava be a recharge?
Obviously, they get recharged via fire as one of their primary recharges along with capital L light. Lava is like.. fire that’s liquid and really hot. And it emanates a lot of heat. But, it’s. really hot. Like really hot. It could melt the skykids.
So, the question remains: Could skykids survive in lava?

[eternal totem]

Don’t make the rusty cogs in my brain turn

Wouldn’t necessarily say they’ll melt & die the most horrible death, but…

[keen shore]

I am actually going to say no. Skykids get recharged by fire because it contains light; the heat is a byproduct. Lava is just molten/superheated rock and would either melt their shells, killing them, or have no effect

[sonic ocean]

i think lava would give light and pain

[eternal totem]

I personally think it would overcharge them, they’ll feel really light

[lyric isle]

ok that’s a good debate

[sonic ocean]

i think if fire doesn't hurt skykids then lava probably wouldn't either (other than the possibility of drowning)

[keen shore]

I wonder what would happen if you threw a skykid into the Sun. My theory is thst the heat and light would overcharge them, but they’d be unable to escape its gravity and would be stuck in there for ages, getting extremely powerful

[frigid tinsel]

Tbh we are not sure of what skykids are made of, but whatever material they’re composed of is definitely enhanced by magic, so it’s a question of whether that magic can withstand molten rock or hot plasma

Need a Season of Volcano to test that out

[sonic ocean]

season of set a moth on fire

[keen shore]

one time I had a dream where the wasteland shipwreck was filled with laval And when I touched it it drained my light. that is all the evidence I have to offer. Maybe I saw a parallel universe or something we will see

[keen shore]

we already have season of drown a moth (abyss) and season of throw a moth into the sky (flight) .when will we get season of set a moth on fire and season of bury moth under the ground

[sonic ocean]

season of minecraft

[formal skiff]

Season of Gravedigging????

[sonic ocean]

if you gave a skykid a set of diamond tools, how long would it take until there was property damage

[keen shore]

Please, we don’t need to give skykids another valuable blue rock that will result in the destruction of the land and of so many people. This has already happened once

[formal skiff]

Sky kids are basically invincible (aside from darkness) so they are already far too powerful. The last thing we need is to give them weapons.

[sonic ocean]

would the firework staff be considered a weapon

[keen shore]

skykids having weapons would be so cool you are just being a coward

[sonic ocean]

you could hit people with it plus it shoots fireworks. i would like to talk to the saluting captain and ask what they were thinking when they allowed skykids to have the staff

[fickle wing]

saw the word lava n it reminded me of a hc that like
the elders/stars r basically fire proof n all that jazz like skykids sorta but dial it up to like 100 and to them lava is like a rlly funky hot bath so if there was like a volcano or something that went off they’d just b having the equivalent of a beach day but w a volcano n lava like ⛱️🌋🌴☀️🕶️

[keen shore]

Instead of playing with slime skykids play with lava. I am jealous, I want to know what it feels like

[frigid tinsel]

Skykids would play with magma cubes

[keen shore]

Skykids see a magma cube in Minecraft and go OMG it’s just like me!!!

[fickle wing]

skykids in the nether what will they do

[sonic ocean]

thrive

[keen shore]

they hop into the lava and just sit there going :}

[frigid tinsel]

Skykids: this is just like the hot springs in the Village of Dreams

[uncut pond]

I feel like a skid would try to help the crying Ghasts because they just look so sad :(

Now that I think about it would the skids heal/regain light when hit by a Ghast's lava projectiles?

[keen shore]

Skykid getting extremely happy because of the giant flying creature that continuously shoots light to recharge them when they need it. They do not realize the truth

[uncut pond]

They ignorantly bring the Ghasts to the overworld and that results in disastrous consequences

They honk uncontrollably while panicking as the Ghasts destroy everyone else

[soft timber]

Moths especially

[rigid mural]

Sky kids would win at “the floor is lava”

[polar forge]

Because lava is just

Very warm floor

[soft timber]

Yea

I 100% can see Skids in Minecraft being naturally immune to most hazards just because they are that hazard

[polar forge]

What is it what is it....
Fire aspect?

[soft timber]

Yes

[polar forge]

THANK you

[sharp lichen]

Fire doesn’t hurt them in Sky, so lava wouldn’t either

[sharp lichen]

If they were forced to, could an Elder defeat a Skykid?

[lyric isle]

this of all things is what I come into

good

[rapid arrow]

I feel like skykids and elders are weirdly equally among like power and that stuff

[sharp lichen]

I still think Skykids could win against some of the Elders: they could pick up crabs and throw them

[frigid tinsel]

Skykids may be OP defensively but their offensive abilities are sorely lacking in effectiveness

[sharp lichen]

But so are the Elders, excluding Wasteland and Valley

[white junco]

looks at forest elder wielding a giant hammer

[sharp lichen]

And so? Skykids are immune to bonk damage

[frigid tinsel]

I think the Elders have some strong offenses, we just don’t see it. We get glimpses of them during Wasteland Elder’s cutscene, Isle and Vault Elders are probably magic users to some regard, and the Valley Elder(s) could be a deadly duo.
From my fic:

I put rapiers here because the Valley Elder(s) have swords in Orbit instead of their signuature paddles: #lore-discussion-spoilers message

[restive moth]

Bonk hard enough we lose winglight doe 😭

[sharp lichen]

One winged light. Out of how many?

[white junco]

you brought up that valley and wasteland elders had strong offensive capabilities. i simply pointed out that forest did as well

[sharp lichen]

Oh yeah I forgot, but even still Isle, Prairie, and Vault can’t do much

[keen shore]

before reading the conversation around this I assumed by “strong offenses” you meant crimes they had committed

[rigid mural]

Clearly you haven't been hit by grandparents wielding canes or handbags.

[keen shore]

“I think the elders have committed many large scale crimes we have not seen”
Me nodding along: yeah they sure have, I bet the twins robbed a bank. Wait

do not underestimate vault elder they could manifest a knife in your chest and boom that’s it . And you would deserve it for fighting them in the first place

[sharp lichen]

That hurts to us, but not Skykids

[compact shale]

Yeah, our bodies are too hard for that. It would only cause emotional scarring at worst.

[sharp lichen]

Eh, Skykids have seen worse than that

[compact shale]

True, true

...TGC GIVE US A THERAPIST SPIRIT PLEASE

[sharp lichen]

Therapist skid. Anything. Season of therapy

[restive moth]

PLS HAHAHAHAHAH

[restive moth]

I think skids themselves canonly do not have actual emotions tho, only us players

[keen shore]

what gave you that impression?

[rigid mural]

Tapping the sign because while it may not come from ableism, this line of thinking is still ties to some misconceptions and biases linked to that.

Also skykids do express emotions as early as the first elder cutscene in the game.

[restive moth]

Because all of our emotes (even feeling/emotion) emotes are them mimicking from dead spirits

[tranquil harbor]

Sky kids are actually able to use emotes they don't know in cutscenes. The most recent example is performance. The sky kid uses a level 2 emote my skid doesn't know, but my skid still uses it.

[restive moth]

Also immediately labelling someone was ableist just because they interpret the media differently is a bit extreme, no? Especially when they media is a free to interpret kind. This is a lore channel any theory is accepted and should be discussed rationally

Also yea I think maybe skykids do have actual emotions, but they don't exactly know what that feeling is? If anyone has read Houseki no Kuni before then you'd probably know what I'm saying (Best example is Cairngorm, for Alef I think the best example for reference would be Phosphophyllite, especially what happened to Phos in the latest chapters)

[sharp lichen]

Fourth Performance Quest and Final Dreams Quest disproves that

[restive moth]

Yea but still up to everyones interpretation

[keen shore]

The entire “skykids don’t initially express emotion in a way we are used to so they must not experience it at all” is a line of thinking directly tied to ableism as stated above, yeah. It’s a line of thought that directly negatively affects autistic people in easily visible and discernible ways, and while I recognize that this game is open to interpretation, giving platforms to theories that are directly tied to and which further ableism is not something I’m interested in or will support.

Most people don’t think of or realize this theory’s ableist links at first, unfortunately, which might have happened with you. But they are there.

[rigid mural]

I litterally said that I am aware you probably didn't mean to be ableist before warning you your opinion may come from biases that were.

[restive moth]

Your first sentence I read wrongly as my first language isn't english so I probably misinterpreted that sorry

[sharp lichen]

“Sky lore is up to interpretation” is a benefit, but it can cause horrific theories to sprout up. There are two things in particular which I dislike

[rigid mural]

Don't be dramatic either, they just assumed no expression = no emotion and it got resolved.

[tranquil harbor]

I've noticed that the sky fanbase in general seems to ignore 'the suspension of disbelief'.
Sky kids don't express stuff, despite other video games usually having a silent protagonist who sits there with a blank smile on their face? No emotions.
Sky kids don't eat or go to the bathroom despite other video games not doing that because it can be a waste of player time? Sky kids clearly don't eat or need the bathroom.
Like, it's a very literal fanbase.

[keen shore]

Unfortunately, yeah. I totally support the lore being up to interpretation, but a few theories that have sprouted up over the years are harmful. Some (like the one you mentioned Faye) get mentioned and shut down here a lot which makes me think a lot of players hear it somewhere and pick it up without questioning it sadly. Thank you sm Faye for understanding :}

[compact shale]

Lore starvation is one hell of a... you get what I mean
Now that's probably not the only reason but it probably contributes

[keen shore]

does the toilet in office count as toilets being canon in Sky or is that a leap

[sharp lichen]

I’m worried that it’s common in the Sky fanbase

[rigid mural]

I feel like it's less "Lore Starvation" and more "We aren't sure if our theories on how stuff works will get proven right or wrong next update, so we take things as litterally as possible to be sure we're canon compliant"

[compact shale]

Well, Office is probably an easter egg area, so take from that what you will

[keen shore]

Toilets could definitely reasonably exist in valley because of plumbing and all. which leads me to the incredibly funny visual of a skykid archeologist trying to find out what they are and becoming frustrated that they can’t think of a use for them

[rigid mural]

I feel like "lore is up to interpretation" works better with games that either are finished upon distribution (everyone knows the bases, now it's entirely up to us to build from here), or aren't as centered around lore (less focus on something not a lot of players look at, like minecraft).

[compact shale]

And then they accidentally nuke the toilet while experimenting with it

[rigid mural]

Looking at the Wasteland secret area

[compact shale]

What if there are toilets... but they're all for CRABS /nsrs

[keen shore]

Place in wasteland disguised as a cool secret area that is actually just a PRANK to flush every switch skykid down the toilet while the devs LAUGH about it… 💔

[rigid mural]

Mario canon

[compact shale]

When we look back on this chat after a month and realize we have somehow gone from the faultiness of Sky's lore structure to toilets, how will we react?

[keen shore]

Without surprise

[compact shale]

How low have we stoopeth?

[rigid mural]

Baby I know Sky lore you don't even care about.

[compact shale]

Touche, veteran lorist.

[keen shore]

I feel like I already know examples of this but also my ciritpistu has been piqued

[compact shale]

Your ciritpistu, eh? Haaaaah.

[keen shore]

OH I keep forgetting but also I need to post something here I realized from yesterday. I definitely need to bounce it off other people, because it makes a bit too much sense to ignore imo, but I have no idea what it means in the bigger picture w lore or how it fits together with the other pieces (if I’m being honest, it doesn’t make a ton of sense with them)… hold on

Okay so a basic rundown of the biblical story of Eden right. Paradise like home is created for the first humans; they directly disobey god’s wishes to not eat a fruit that would give them great knowledge of evil (iirc. I don’t remember the exact temptation but it’s close to that) and are promptly kicked out.

Intro text for current version of Sky:

But darkness came, and the stars fell...
Together, the fallen stars made a new home in the clouds.
If only they had listened...
A long time has passed. Now, I call to you. 
Wake up, child.  Bring our lost stars home.```

Implies a previous home before the current home for the spirits we see that is categorically better than the one we see now (having infinite light). This might be orbit because it’s where we have to return the spirits to? I don’t know. This is one of my major points of confusion, because I can’t figure out what that original home is & orbit is a bit of a weird answer for reasons I will get to later… anyways. 

here is the vault mural of the king eating something visual to fruit which I believe is a continuation of this whole metaphor. Also, Eden is called Eden. My past reasoning for this is that it was previously a paradise, but I don’t think that that being the only similarity would warrant it being directly named after a famous paradise with a whole story revolving around people getting kicked out of it for some sort of crime.

After bouncing this off some friends I have realized that the fruit in this metaphor would probably be darkstone in general, specifically the Eye, which makes sense. But. What does this mean on a wider level?

What was the previous home thst the spirits got kicked out of — if we stick with the metaphor, it’s a completely different geographical location? Was it the place currently called Eden, and if so, did everyone previously live there and the whole kingdom was only established post disaster?
Is the Eden in this metaphor Orbit, like what the intro text seems to imply? And if so, what does that mean about how Orbit works thst you possibly can use darkstone in it and get kicked out — and that it was everyone’s previous home?
Was the Eden just the same world and geographical location but without darkness?
How does this fit into the whole season of prophecy arc & what’s implied with stargazers memory?

I have more questions than answers here, sadly

totally hoping for other peoples opinions on this because. I am baffled

[lofty totem]

Yeah i think the eden before is the same but without darkness and destroyed houses

[sharp lichen]

I would advise against using the intro text for anything, tbh. Maybe Eden was a city established by the citizens of the Sky world, but it got destroyed by the King.

[slate saffron]

THE KING HAS A MOUTH W H A T

WHY

THAT'S UNNATURAL

[keen shore]

Why would you advise against using the intro texts?? They’re one of the only times we’re actually told anything.

[lofty totem]

Wait i think what you meant is that the stars live in orbit the spirits already have a home but probably without vault and eden, ever since the stars fell (elders and king) they started doing CriMes or something which leads to what it is today

[sharp lichen]

ITS A NECK THING DONT WORRY

[sharp lichen]

I’m just wary of it, considering how many times it’s changed and how hard it is to interpret

[keen shore]

I mean yeah but… considering how much lore the intro has been stated to contain… if we ignored it we’d never get anywhere. Plus the refinements are supposed to make it more easily interpreted. I get your wariness, because It is so easy for me to poke those words and get 80 different interpretations from them, but that’s all of Sky.

[slate saffron]

To my understanding Eden is the name of the storm that rages on top of the mountain at the kingdom's center which may or may not also be the name of the mountain but that's a different headache as the realm itself is named "Eye of Eden" which could be interpreted as like the eye of a storm!

[gleaming fog]

The king is a real human. All other entities are wax automations

The elders are just massive server racks. They’re the only entities actually doing a job. All others are just hobbyists, maybe even normal people who are in a kind of limbo

[keen shore]

This is a really neat interpretation that I haven’t heard before, but we have to keep in mind that Eden is a word with heavy and obvious associations to any possible players. I don’t think it makes as much sense to name a storm that vs a location, although I’m not sure, maybe there’s reasoning I’m missing.

also I don’t want to be rude, but ngl it is a bit frustrating that everyone has decided to focus on the king having a mouth vs what I would much rather talk about tonight.

[white junco]

hey about the “spirits may have lived in orbit, not sure” thing, we do have physical structures made of pure light (itty bitty stars) in orbit. perhaps there are more structures in a different place up there?

i think one of the streams mentioned that the elders are also fallen stars, so maybe it was just them up there. could be either just the elders or everyone or just the older spirits but tbh it feels kinda weird for them to fall from their big sky palace made of light and go “alright, time to live in a cave”

omg wait the performance act 2 stories relating to candlemaker 👀

[keen shore]

Oh yeah that would make sense! I wonder how much of orbit we can’t see, making this a lot harder 💔
it’s really weird because the intro text DOES seem to imply that orbit is the previous home I’m thinking of but it doesn’t make much sense. Unless everyone involved was chilling as stars and didn’t really have a human form, thus also making any sort of crime to get them kicked out much harder to achieve… I’m just lost in general.

There is one more explanation I could have to explain that and that is that the Eden mountain was on a plane of existence between the real world and orbit if that makes sense. I don’t know how to explain it but it would fit to some extent… I don’t know. Even that doesn’t feel right.

It’s really late so I will probably go to bed soon and just. Leave this general concept marinating in lorechat for a bit. I have noticed that whenever stuff like this gets brought up people will talk about it and think up new explanations and all as well as tying it into other theories for the next few days so hoping that happens naturally :} thank you all for trying to help me figure this out. I am equally confused

placing this idea into the shared lorechat brain cell and standing back as it just bounces around everyone’s heads and takes shape

[white junco]

shaking my hands wildly, i’ve actually been thinking about eden doing some weird plane stuff lately. I mean, the last eden area looks awfully like the beginning of ascension. perhaps we leave the physical plane and enter one closer to the light that also shows us what Eden was supposed to be?

[keen shore]

Yeah that makes sense!! It would be cool if, before the darkness came, the world in general (esp Eden) was on a plane closer to the Light or something. Like the disaster made everything move down a few levels away from it, changing the world irrevocably… probably not canon but, maybe neat?

[slate saffron]

(Sorry about the mouth thing, it's just that it can be hard to concentrate on details in that image in-game so it was just kinda surprising that the king had a mouth)

Agreed. There's also the idea that the moutain or castle is named eden (I personally enjoy the idea that the moutain or the location where the light creatures would go to ascend was named eden, which then carried the name over to the storm when it emerged, before finally the name "eye of eden" looping back around to refer to the ascension-location after the original origin of the name was forgotten)

[keen shore]

In universe sky entymology is something I haven’t seen before but is both very interesting and very confusing. My 3 current brain cells can’t decide what to make of it atm,

and don’t apologize for the mouth thing, I understand, was just kinda frustrated thst that’s what dominated the conversation for a bit :} is fine

[lofty totem]

Ok but ya guys clearly saw in the candle mural that there was already a place for the spirits before the stars fell though the question is what were the spirits living on because when the stars fell that was only the time the sky kingdom was built

[compact shale]

Maybe they were in their true place, the actual afterlife where they were supposed to be? Or maybe they weren't spirits where they used to be, but became spirits when the stars fell?

Sorry about that, I'm still adjusting to being back

[floral grove]

It could also be that "Eden" is the name of the city ontop of the mountain and the storm. In my native language, the word for "storm" is the name of a city that uses to be known as "that one city that got hit by a massive storm." I can see Eden being in the same case

[lofty totem]

I’m also adjusting to being back lol

[errant shell]

are skykids left handed or right handed

[rapid arrow]

Both

[fickle wing]

casting spell of left handed on skykids since im left handed

[sonic ocean]

based off how skids hold the firework staff, right-handed or ambidextrous

[rigid mural]

The last line. "Bring our lost stars home."
We know the elders are the fallen stars in the intro from that lightseeker stream transcript.

But the elders aren't the only ones we save. Maybe ancestors are fallen stars as well ? They're even arranged in constellations with their elder.

That previous home could simply be the sky, among other stars (so Orbit)...

[rigid mural]

Perhaps the basegane ancestors were already spirits when they fell (back) down, hence why they got graves and all. Though some are seen in seasonal spirit cutscenes, so either not all of them fell back down at the same time (hence why Cheerful Spectator has a grave but not Twirling Champion or Mellow Musician), or the whole stars falling happened on such a short period of time an ancestor could reasonably meet a deceased friend before dying themselves.
(Theory is still a work in progress)

Eden (Hebrew: עֵדֶן‎), as a given name, has several derivations, from the Biblical Garden of Eden, meaning 'delight' (from Wikipedia)
Perhaps the name "Eden" is simply because the place used to be really nice ? Maybe it was holy even, since that's where light creatures (and perhaps ancestors) go to ascend.

[rigid mural]

Ok but I do wanna point out the very first intro mural has ancestors painted below the stars, maybe ancestors are either not stars, or stars meant to fall (and possibly ascend back up with experience to bring to the Light).

Maybe the elders falling was seen as disastrous because it was due to darkness ("but darkness came") when they were meant to stay up there and guide ancestors, and may have decided to live in the kingdom despite the ancestors/the Light asking them to go back to the Light/to it ("If only they had listened").
Maybe they taught ancestors things that caused the kingdom's downfall, such as darkstone (looking at Teth)...

[willow osprey]

Yeah that's the way I imagine it, too. I like to think the elders once were ancestors themselves but were chosen by Megabird/the Light to stay in Orbit and serve as guards to the ancestors (to guard them to Orbit at the end of their lives). Maybe after a while the elders decided to boycott the ancestors' endless cycle of dying and rebirth, since they had to endure that process themselves back when they were mortal, and stopped guiding the ancestors to Orbit and instead helped them built their own home in the clouds and equipped them with knowledge about darkstone to help the ancestors become independent of Megabird (and its Light).

I am not sure about the exact role of the Prince/King in this. Did he convince the elders to boycott Megabird? Where did he come from? What was his purpose before becoming corrupted? What motivated him to become corrupted?

Okay I've got a crazy thought: Is the King an analogy to Lucifer??

[rigid mural]

The king is as of today barely present in the game, litterally all we know that is canon about them is that they are the Eden Elder and existed.
No word on the king getting corrupted on purpose.

Sky gets inspired by many sources, mostly children's media but who knows !

[willow osprey]

Yeah true. I can't get that one complete storyline on Tom Zhao's website out of my head. It featured the corruption of the king

[rigid mural]

Yeah, it featured ideas that got scrapped I think.

[hushed steeple]

aight fells, i've been wanting to learn the sky lore for a while, so where would i go to learn it?

[sonic ocean]

here!

[rapid arrow]

Well technically we’re still figure stuff out ourselves. But yeah stick around here and you learn some cool stuff

[sonic ocean]

it’s very vague and all over the place and i’m pretty sure if you asked about something specific you might come out of it understanding slightly less but this is the best place to figure it out

[hushed steeple]

i heard there's a lot to it and i wanna learn! can someone fill me with like the basics

[formal skiff]

Hm so that’s kinda hard sadly, because as others have mentioned it’s mostly really vague. It’s a bit easier if you ask about something in particular to get started, even if it’s a general topic.

[hushed steeple]

Hmmmm okay, well I’m wondering kinda about gerbal things like what are sky kids and where did they come from, what is this world and why are there only spirits left and like who the heck is “the king” ??

[formal skiff]

ok i'll start with sky kids! gimme a bit to type stuff out and try to remember stuff haha

[hushed steeple]

Okie, I’m in math rn and their strict on phones so I might not respond for A WHILE

[rapid arrow]

Simple answer… Eden/hj

But in all seriousness. The king, is basically like a proto skykid or atleast an early skykid. I’m currently eating so I’m not in the best place to respond (and this stuff isn’t really where my theories thrive)

[formal skiff]

what exactly sky kids are made of is debated, but a common theory is that they're made of light with an earthen shell. i can't remember the exact wording from the intro but i think they were sent to "return our spirits to the stars"? probably by megabird, who is the deity of the sky world and only directly appears in the game at the end of the orbit credits in the form of a galaxy. this image compilation includes that as well as other references to them in-game, and concept art

[rapid arrow]

Also the spirits died or atleast died out when Eden went boom. (Which I have a theory on why that happened) but we know some stuck around before eventually Poofing themselves

[formal skiff]

as for why there are only spirits left, there was a disaster that wrecked the world and is connected to eden as well as to darkstone. darkstone is that blue diamond-shaped stone that you light to activate mechanisms, and its production seems to have used light creatures. anyway yeah something went wrong with eden involving that giant red diamond (not sure exactly what but maybe the new season will shed some light, very excited for that but we shall have to wair and see!) that resulted in the destruction of the ancestors' civilization, perhaps immediately or perhaps (i like this version better personally) more slowly as the world stopped being habitable and the scattered survivors gradually died out. now they're all spirits (though there are probably many more spirits than those seen in-game), which seem to be able to interact with the world somewhat (days of bloom, granny, etc) but not as their living selves, and they have to ascend back to orbit eventually.

[distant turtle]

I’m gonna need some lore speculation about why there’s a sky kid statue in prairie. That makes no sense unless sky kids were around in those days. Maybe there were some.

[frigid tinsel]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

It was literally added in one update with no mention, no fanfare, and does nothing.

[distant turtle]

I get the sense that the Orbit we get to see is a construct, like Home, specially crafted by Megabird maybe, as a staging area where the sky kids physical forms can exist. I think if we really joined Megabird, we wouldn’t be Sky kids anymore, but more like streams of light like when we die in Eden, and like the spirit escort quests. My headcanon is that Sky kids can choose to not reincarnate, and to ascend further and join Megabird.

I think something similar to this might be the real canon too, because of the mechanic of our friends being represented as stars, and the spirits seeming to beam down also like from stars.

It seems to me that a poetically loose definition of a star as not only the physical definition but also the legendary definition of stars as ancestors, like that line in The Lion King, is part of the canon.

[distant turtle]

One piece of lore that’s supported a little by evidence other than our GUI, with those stone formations with white lines on the ground, is that the ancestors were interested in astrology.

[hushed steeple]

Okay so I KINDAAAA get it

[keen shore]

I just woke up but I am oooking at everyone’s messages with great interest and trying to shake my brain to get it to work again

[formal skiff]

The best advice I can give for learning more is to take note of interesting things you see around Sky and to hang around here for a bit. There’s as much if not more of us goofing off as actually discussing lore, but yk, still fun and one can tap out whenever one feels like it.

[formal skiff]

Good mooorniiinngggg

[lofty totem]

Sometimes the interesting things we see is game mechanics

[formal skiff]

Yeah, the endless question of whether a particular feature is lore or mechanic

[keen shore]

Also for any new people. if you’re confused about something we’re talking about, just ask and we will do our best to explain what we know

[distant turtle]

I wonder if skykids were the stuff of legends in the ancestors’ time, like how humans wonder whether unicorns are real.

[formal skiff]

Yeah I second this, I remember when I was a lore moth and they were all super willing to explain stuff to me and didn’t make me feel stupid or anything :) this is a welcoming place, we don’t bite

[lofty totem]

Ye

[hushed steeple]

Sounds good, thank you <333 I’m lookign forward to learning more

[frigid tinsel]

There’s a thought from old LA lore that the ancestors, at least some of them, knew skykids were coming

[lofty totem]

Ok so ummm coming back here after seeing the candle mural i didnt understand aything even though i already discussed this in the past lmao

[orchid jolt]

#lore-discussion-spoilers message

If the link to the discord message doesn't work, it was about how both the boat spirit and non-seasonal questgiver could be at home at the same time so they seem to be different, though it could just be a gameplay mechanic rather than lore. This image was also attached:

[lofty totem]

GUYS is the old intro replaced with the candle mural in isle ???????? Or there are just double intros

[rapid arrow]

What are we talking about right now?

[formal skiff]

Not much, other than murals maybe?

[rapid arrow]

Ahhh, I wonder how skykids can view the outfits they’re wearing

[lofty totem]

Well there is a mirror in starlight dessert soo

[rapid arrow]

True but like. Before the mirror. I find it funny if they like told their friends to wear the same outfit to see if it looks good

[lyric isle]

main reason I believe what I do is as coping. would consider that a game mechanic for that
reasons may be worth noting in the process of this. idk

I Don’t want them gone entirely so believing that the boat is another means of us seeing them is reassuring

praying that that’s not proven incorrect or something. it’s helping me to believe in that and I don’t want that taken away

anyway yeah only said that because I got pinged about it

[tranquil harbor]

I want to meet off season quest giver so bad As far as I'm concerned, they're the one who deals with the statue. Like maintenance and changing the quests.
Put them back TGC. Let us hug them.

[lyric isle]

dw me too

disclaimer that I won’t be active after Performance

Let us hug them.
please feedback that

but yeah same headcanon poggers

I wrote to CS and there is hope

[tranquil harbor]

I like to think off season quest giver is the one who looks after the skids. (Mostly new skids, but that's a reason connected to a whole other can of worms.)
The skids setting up a bunch of tents and stuff in home to sleep, then helping off season quest giver make breakfast in the morning is cute
Off season quest giver teaching skids basic camping skills

[lyric isle]

tfw you’re more excited for merch wave because of them rather than the actual merch

that’s so cute. can’t wait to see them
I want you to be able to too though………………………..

[tranquil harbor]

The off season quest giver should be seeable, because they serve a practical purpose of 'the quests are this way' at a glance, but the sleepy merchant Let switch players wave at the merchant. Give us literally anything. I don't care if they're just sitting there looking pretty, let us see them

[lyric isle]

wishlist it come on

I already wrote that 👁️

[tranquil harbor]

Seriously, learning there is actually a spirit that sits there at the shop boat made me feel so robbed.

[lyric isle]

YEAH?? LIKE

THE MASCOT TOO. I WANT SWITCH PEOPLE TO SEE THEM

[soft timber]

I HEARD LEARNING ASTROLOGY AND CAME

[lyric isle]

I want you to meet them so badly. That is all

if I could make One thing magically happen

[tranquil harbor]

Like it's all apart of the fun and stuff. Like, phone players get a spirit selling stuff, but switch players just see an ominous boat. 'Some random boat showed up on the shore, but you can not just take things. You must obey the honor rule'
As far as switch players know it belongs to no one

[lyric isle]

is it worth writing feedback or will it get ignored

[soft timber]

Me getting to see the boat merchant since I play Switch: 🥰

[tranquil harbor]

Ooooh, I just noticed the switch emote has little flying sky kids in place of the buttons
I'd totally buy custom sky switch joycons

[lyric isle]

they are the mascot of thatskyshop. they have been a qg for a very long time; they shouldn’t be forgotten and never known by some because of their device, okay???

[tranquil harbor]

Did quest giver go on vacation before or after switch release? Because I think it might just be the merchant we can't see

[lyric isle]

like. they’re making spirits so much more interactive. why not do it with

@tranquil harbor after. I think they’re the same person for coping reasons

manifesting them for an event. that’s all I want

. do you have any other headcanons about them that aren’t in a grieving sense

I legit don’t think it’s good for me to discuss it like this right now

have come to believe that the light awaits qg is sightseer’s parent - thus their grandparent

[tranquil harbor]

Mmm... Mostly just that they take care of the skids and the statue is tech that makes their job easier.

[lyric isle]

there has been an entire weird AU that has lived in my brain since Prophecy and one thing within it is an event management centre where they announce the TSes live

can I stop talking about this now

I don’t want it to make me upset
sorry but thank you

[tranquil harbor]

Of course

[lyric isle]

sorry

I miss them so so so badly
and I really want Switch people to meet them. overall more interaction too

[hushed steeple]

Same here bud

[lyric isle]

do you think we’ll ever see them again.

may quit if it’s ever announced not

be honest

[sharp lichen]

YES. GIVE US SHOPKEEPER LORE

[lyric isle]

i’m crying about them again idk what to do

sorry that this is happening Here

[lyric isle]

will we ever get that though

what am I supposed to do anymore

i’ll stop talking

[sharp lichen]

We need to

[lyric isle]

all I want is for them to come back

sorry

[tranquil harbor]

Vol is getting pretty messed up about this, we should stop

[lyric isle]

can I pls have something to believe about this though

anything that would help but nothing that causes pining

[tranquil harbor]

I'm not sure what to give you tbh

[lyric isle]

this has legit ruined the game for me. if this never happened I’d be more optimistic about it as a whole

if anything official happens that basically calls them useless and worth ridding of in some way and seals the hypothetical fact they’re gone-gone and we just have to deal with it

likely gonna uninstall on the spot

[lyric isle]

anything that could help as coping, please. anything

[tranquil harbor]

I gave you all the happy I had, and that seemed to upset you in the end. Why don't you step back and breath for a bit?

[lyric isle]

yeah that’d be a good idea

will go make toast and a warm drink or something

the next time I’ll be here in this channel I won’t be like this, oki
has been a while since that happened at least. see you

[tranquil harbor]

Take care of yourself

[proper cosmos]

anything like, positive questgiver stuff? or like another topic? respond when you can, enjoy your toast!! 😊

[lyric isle]

pls change topic for now
ye, looking forward to it,,

[proper cosmos]

aLRIGHT OKAY SO since you were on sky since prophecy,, have you been to starlight memorial?

cause i don't remember it looking like this when i was there a while ago

[lyric isle]

p.s. there is still a lot I love about this game. ‘ruined’ is a strong word but this situation has definitely got rid of a chunk of my enjoyment (hoping to get that back tbh. it’s beginning to)

anyway uh. see you I shall have some lovely toast to calm down

[tranquil harbor]

I think it can change depending on if you watch the cutscene or not. It doesn't just change where the elders are

[proper cosmos]

oh cool okay

[frigid tinsel]

There was a bug during Season of Abyss that turned the Starfield Memorial sunset into a deep blue sky. It’s since been fixed — there’s supposed to be a sunset

[proper cosmos]

oOH

i think the first time i went was around abyss, maybe a little earlier

[uncut pond]

Wait what's the Starfield Memorial

[eternal totem]

Valley coliseum OOB

[formal skiff]

#questions-and-help is probably the place, but I’d say yeah any mentions of them are spoilers :)

[grizzled agate]

||at edge of edden why we must go forword why don't we just die and why we give wings for the statues of dead children?||

[fading pier]

Thanks 👍

[keen shore]

I do kinda understand this idea but I have to ask how would spirit memories work then?? Especially with a lot of seasonal spirits being in the same locations (ie forgotten ark) instead of scattered around where they fell, it seems to imply that either the events creating spirit memories happened after they fell again (which I don’t think is true because they show them eating and being scared of death and all) or the stars fell EXACTLY where they died hmmm

[sharp lichen]

It’s possibly out of respect, or the Skykid’s desire to help others.

[keen shore]

No I mean like. Why are they in that specific area, how did they form, etc

[lyric isle]

elo I am bacc
how are we

[nimble ingot]

It did change a bit.

The most notable change is the Starlight memorial's namesake has been removed.
In the past, you used to be able to stand on a platform and look at the stars just like in home, which would give you the name. But it has in recent updates been removed 😦

[formal skiff]

Why was it removed??

[distant turtle]

Abyss update changed some things with the game’s lighting and this area was no longer pinkish, only dark blue. Then they specifically changed this area to restore the old look. Does it look a little different? I think so too. But I’m glad they tried. It’s really nice that they responded to feedback about an OOB.

[nimble ingot]

In one update the OOB was ruined when the sky would have this fog effect and did not show the distant building while in the coliseum (which is where the twilight sky trigger is).
After players begged for it to be fixed, the OOB was changed in another update to have this similar, but new lighting.

[uncut pond]

Damn... Why do the OOBs look so much better than the actual game aesthetically speaking (no offense to the devs the game looks beautiful)

[sharp lichen]

Not just the Starfield memorial, there’s so much wonderful hidden places

[sharp lichen]

Or maybe it’s so beautiful because we so rarely see it?

[sturdy wyvern]

Here's a question: due to the specific way that skykids fly, if a skykid lost their arm, would they still be able to fly (or at least steer)?

[orchid jolt]

Look, the old questgiver spirit probably does want to visit the skykids at home too, but someone needs to watch over the wasteland butterflies and the blue butterflies of valley. I've heard it can be exhausting to take care of one butterfly bunch, but two? I don't think they'd be able to babysit all the skykids as well!

[lyric isle]

that headcanon is so cute I'm

[keen shore]

Most likely. Skykids do seem to control the edges of their capes similarly to their wrists for convenience, but since they’re two separate things, they’d probably be able to distinguish between the two with enough practice

[orchid jolt]

Also, the emoji of the non-seasonal questgiver/boat merchant is called "spirit_friend"

[lyric isle]

YES

[nimble ingot]

Theoretically, they may have trouble balancing (especially in trail of air with no cape to help compensate).

Though, most cases would lead to individuals adapting to their circumstances. Though ultimately, the severity of the disability may lead to more difficulties.

Losing a leg for instance would be a serious disability for a skykid's mobility. Even if they can fly, they would have to rely on it more than usual, that or use a prop like a staff to limp about.

[lyric isle]

reminds me of the thing I said about concept art
it often looks more appealing because it leaves more to be imagined, and it's unlimited while a lot of things need simplification for mechanical reasons

[keen shore]

YEAH I would love to see more diversity in skykids, especially with disability and body types, but making all those different models is most likely not feasible ingame :[

[nimble ingot]

Thus far, the most diversity we have are different shades of dark skin, cosmetic combinations, and heights

[orchid jolt]

Guys, they can fly with a yellow scarf instead of a cape.

[orchid jolt]

They tried the disabilities thing once, most people didn't like it though, me included. In hindsight, blindness wasn't really a good first disability to include in game.... /s

Genuinely, making it to the capes on my own like this felt harder than all four trials plus Eden!

[nimble ingot]

Light is light, and that cape does aid in flight regardless of appearance.

If capes had flight stats, the game would have looked and felt a lot different.

[orchid jolt]

Plus, it wasn't an opt in thing like a spell or outfit lol

[orchid jolt]

I mean, ehhhh. Skykids also can sort of fly around without any body at all (likely just game mechanics tho), in Eden sacrifice as the blue light thing

[nimble ingot]

I like to theorise hwo that sprite is a soul of the skykid.
possibly canonising skykids being either related to the ancestors (via spirits), or skykids develop a soul that is sikilar to the ancestor spirits.
The difference lies in of the spirrit has been thrre since the start, or they grow/develop one as they grow.

[hushed steeple]

Hi, I'm a random theorist, here to help! First of all, you forgot that we, skids, are stars, same goes for the ancestors and elders. And as the name suggests: ancestors are also named spirits, and elders - elder SPIRIT. So I'm guessing that at the star's death, it becomes a spirit, and for that certain star's body to come back in spirit form, it's memories must be relived, as shown that when you summon a spirit via constellation, it's a small ball of blue/golden light depending whether you ascended that spirit or not, and then they form into their body. And for us to have retrieved our light/memory to get our body back, we had to hug a light skid, also known as the king in the game's files, and then we ascended. For the elders, I have exactly NO idea how they were able to get their body back in spirit form tbh, but I'm guessing that by meditating at the elder's altar, they retrieve both their body and memories, as the beginning of their cutscene could be a memory of theirs playing before the interaction starts

Again, it's a theory, but I am pretty sure that's how it works

[sharp lichen]

Yeah, I like that a lot! Welcome to lorechat, you have a lot to learn

[hushed steeple]

it has been said that elders and skykids are different species, so maybe that could explain the oddness of the former with regards to memories and bodies

[rigid mural]

It's a pretty glaring hole in that theory yeah ! That's why I separated basegame spirits and seasonal spirits, as the former got graves unlike the latter.
Graveless spirits may have never been found.

Some memories are just the spirit wandering without doing anything special, I like Alasdair's idea that it's them walking around an area with a feeling something important happened here without precisely knowing what... For example, Crab Whisperer could have been looking around a shipwreck, retracing the steps they once took to help survivors.

So far I like to think whatever happened in Eden threw the rebirth cycle out of wack; like mantas and other light creatures, ancestors were meant to ascend, die and be reborn anew, but the cataclysm (and possibly the Dawn elder growing old, weak or dying) may have sent souls that weren't meant to be reborn yet down (=> living ancestors seeing spirits), and possibly ascended ancestors and light creatures that were not meant to die yet (hence Eden's peculiarly fractured look and lack of spirits).

[violet sundial]

Is there any lore on colored light written down that i could refer to for Something I’m Working On

[frigid tinsel]

Suppose it goes back to my thought that spirit memories are either imprints like winged light or the light shed from weakening ancestor spirits, hence the forgetting

[violet sundial]

Also! Fun fact on this. A while Earlier during Beta testing the Starlight Memorial constellation turned into Enchantment’s constellation. You couldn’t buy anything but that was. Weird

[keen shore]

I’m sorry I cannot read [plants face in desk] but YEAH I think I get what you mean. The spirit souls do look a lot like stars hmmmm… I am unfortunately not very smart today and it is very hard to understand things but this is a really neat idea. Like, the stars falling doesn’t have to mean actual stars, it could be the spirit’s souls… thank you so much!! Placing this into my currently very empty skull

[sharp lichen]

Oh I hope it was just a bug (referring to the Enchantment constellation)

[keen shore]

What specifically do you need? Like how they work (we have that), where they came from (we only have speculation there), etc

[keen shore]

I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THIS. So we know from tutorial texts and from just going through Eden that both the elders and Eden are linked to helping souls ascend right? Unfortunately both of those got wrecked to some degree in the disaster. It’s pretty much common knowledge in this channel at this point that at the very least spirits would get kinda stuck and wouldn’t be able to ascend after that, I don’t think I have to explain it. It’s a really neat idea that it messed up even more than that… 👀 I am Thinking…

And side other note. Since Eden and the elders serve a similar soul related function I wonder if they’re linked somehow. Like one goes kablooey and the other is severely weakened type thing

[violet sundial]

Specifically more about how they work, cus like their function is a little unclear tbh (or er how they function)

[rapid arrow]

I mean for the last bit I think we know that the elders atleast did something with the Eden elder and how it was chosen. It would make sense for like the formation of maybe the eden diamond to have like some essence of the elders within it. Some more so than others

Sorry if this made no sense my brain is not functioning properly

[potent sedge]

My headcanon is that the eden diamond is the prison that which holds the king, and it threatens to shatter. basically us sky kids have to stop it from breaking with the WLs

[keen shore]

Oh ok! We aren’t given a super concrete explanation in Enchantment beyond what they do generally, but I’ve been trying to pin down the exact details, and here’s my closest educated guesses.

Red - darkness
Exact function: most likely the opposite of purple; obscures things from view. Users can choose to make certain things invisible to the naked eye and non existent. They can likely reverse this and make things that darkness previously claimed visible again (as seen in the red light enchantment cutscene.)
Evidence: used to make murals that previously existed visible again, goes to places linked heavily with darkness, and when pulling a lever marked with the red light symbol in the village theater, smoke rises - a possible reference to the whole obscuring function. Symbol resembles the way clouds are drawn in murals; clouds’ primary ingame function is to obscure parts of the land that we cannot see. Speculated to be linked to Isle via process of elimination, but not confirmed.

Orange - fire
Exact function: most likely spawns fire; at the very least has something to do with it.
Evidence: prophecy murals show it causing fires and being placed in what are likely turrets to make them glow with light. Usually goes to forest, possibly because there’s so much wood there to burn; unsure. The lion mask over fire trial glows with this color. Fire and the color orange are also heavily linked in concept arts. summons light creatures in ench cutscene

[yellow is basically a general light color so it is getting skipped]
[from here on I am adding less substance to the explanations as I am very tired, let me know if you need more explanations and I will Try]

Cyan - air
exact functions: guides and/or makes wind gusts. shown in prophecy murals to make stuff float, glows in the bat mask over trial of air & is shown to have some connection with bells in sanc guide cutscenes (maybe using the wind to make them chime). makes the forgotten ark oars start moving again in the ench cutscene

Blue - water
exact function: either purifying or summoning water. shown to be involved with the forest rain in a prophecy mural (although whether it is purifying it of darkness or summoning it is unclear], turtle mask glows with it, & it purifies the forgotten ark water in the cutscene & is shown to serve a similar purpose in indifferent alchemist spirit memory

purple - ?? Not sure what to call this one
exact functions: manifests things into reality. creates the tents in the enchantment cutscene, and by process of elimination is implied to be linked with vault although this is uncomfirmed. this one is kinda hard to explain but imagine it like the Minecraft commands that allow you to spawn things.

sorry for the essay I have a Disease

[slate saffron]

@orchid jolt HOW DID YOU GET THAT EMOJI IN YOUR USERNAME EXPLAIN 👁️ 👄 👁️ 🔪

[orchid jolt]

because i learned the truth about skybot

you see, skybot and the dev-caped kid are one and the same.

[slate saffron]

What dark secrets were revealed through it's maddening cries?

[orchid jolt]

the place the prince hides is one where adults die inside

every once in a while, he ventures out, begging for the companionship of the skykids, but alas, he is to scared and closes the link soon after...

sure, some skykids may buy the right to stop by and say hi. but even then, when waving to his friends, he still hides himself inside. He doth not shed a tear when a skykid is nearby, "for they cannot know the truth" he thinks willing the tears to not pour out "they would hate me if they found proof..."

eventually, he sought companionship with the gods, but the deities had abandoned him...

what was he to do, asides from reach out to story-writers, as a villain they had branded him...

but he found friends in them, for they did not know their stories would become so real

[raw crypt]

i just said hi to skybot and they wwre nice to me

[violet sundial]

Snoozing carpenter is a minecraft master. This is canon

[rigid mural]

@slate saffron just DM skybot !team_mischief

[orchid jolt]

with three identities, all one and the same, you can now find him in two places in-universe or out

[orchid jolt]

AY! LEMME BE CRYPTIC WITH MY BULLCRAP STORY FOR A BIT! but yeah, i forgot that was the question

[slate saffron]

Thank ye mr.gay, it is much appreciated

[slate saffron]

insidious indeed. You surely must have a stronger will than I to be able to brandish such terrible cries. Most unfortunate that prince must be, for all who know of this shall never be free-

Oh I cannot believe this I have been bamboozled

[formal skiff]

Tried that once, it brought up a list with no instructions on how to proceed

[orchid jolt]

the prince hid inside the office for years, eventually his tears of blue stained the skies and even his own cape too, he found the devices covering the floor, turned one on and booted up discord.

[raw crypt]

oh! you just go
“i wish to be (insert what u want here)”

< forgets to ping again

[rigid mural]

Send it "I wish to be a [insert role name]"

[slate saffron]

POWER UNLIMITED

[keen shore]

half of the spirits in Sky would discover Minecraft and absolutely lose it. I think talented builder for one would boot it up one day and never stop playing.

[formal skiff]

I remember someone mentioning Scarecrow just using it as a farming sim

[orchid jolt]

For the seventh elder, a prince whose name doth not include "petit", became the dev-caped kid and @pastel brook in an effort to hide and still be seen...

[rigid mural]

Scarecrow Farmer in minecraft, they don't dig but they got a cool farm.
Bird got faster oop

[keen shore]

flight guide logging on one day, taming a bunch of animals, and then when the other flight spirits log on there are 80 cows filling their painstakingly built house

[formal skiff]

HELP

[rigid mural]

Flight guide discovering creative mode commands before they crash the server by spawning an entire chunk full of parrots.

[slate saffron]

Minecraft, truly a game for everyone

Especially soon-to-be dead people

[orchid jolt]

welp, got that out of my system. I made that theory thing awhile back specifically to almost fit with the world of sky while also being 100% already disproven (the office isnt canon)

[keen shore]

each of the cows have name tags on them with a super unique name. one day a death message showed up because one of them died and flight guide enters beast mode

[rigid mural]

I think Forest Elder would have a Time once they find redstone.

Teth, redstone god.

[keen shore]

none of this would have happened if forest elder was allowed to play Minecraft and got all the darkstone stuff out of their system with red stone

[slate saffron]

WAIT are the spirits using bedrock or Java?

[keen shore]

Minecraft could have saved the kingdom… 💔

[formal skiff]

Tearful Light Miner refuses to go into caves and starts crying any time someone suggests it

[raw crypt]

i would gift scarecrow stardew valley on every platform possible and see what they do

[orchid jolt]

from what i know of how skykids interact with krill, they'd probably try to hug the creepers and have staring contests with endermen (they actually dont move if you dont look away, of course this is also very finnicky)

[rigid mural]

I think the flight spirits would have an absurd amount of tamed wolves each, and forget about how many they have until they hit something, mob or another player on accident.

[keen shore]

pocket edition .

[orchid jolt]

forest elder would tottaly hit another player as a shoulder slap replacement

[rigid mural]

Lively Navigator would dig straight down.

[orchid jolt]

raspberry pi edition*

[formal skiff]

Cannoneer obtains far too much power (probably blows up people’s builds but as revenge)

[frigid tinsel]

Abyss crew dies multiple times blastmining for ancient debris

[keen shore]

abyss spirits playing Minecraft, finding a shipwreck, and going Oh wow they put us in the game

[slate saffron]

Thank you. In that case I would like to offer up the scouts from season of assembly as being the first ones to make tipped-arrows & just absolutely terrorize everyone else for months on end

[orchid jolt]

everyone has no idea why something with wings is called a dragon

[rigid mural]

CANNONEER IN MINECRAFT WOULD BE A MENACE
Hunts down streamers to TNT them to death

[formal skiff]

Angler: I TOLD you this was a bad idea!
Cannoneer: yep. and I ignored you!

[lyric saffron]

i came here for lore stayed for Minecraft

[rapid arrow]

What’s happening?

[frigid tinsel]

Cannoneer would build TNT cannons, living up to their name

[orchid jolt]

they'd see the enderdragon and be like, that aint no dragon! It has wings and two eyes! dragons dont got no wings and only got one red/blue eye!

[slate saffron]

Magic

[lyric saffron]

"If sky spirits were in mc"

[keen shore]

forest elder Minecraft v tuber

[rapid arrow]

Ah. Scardey(?) cadet is afaird of the nether and refuses to go near a nether portal

[keen shore]

I am right and you all know it

[lyric saffron]

imagine the chat

[keen shore]

“Please try to help govern your realm. you have been playing Minecraft for 8 days straight. people are starving”

[orchid jolt]

oh, i remember seeing a vtuber thing that made me think of cosmic mantas. i had autoplay on, fell asleep, and woke up to that. lemme see if i can find it again

[frigid tinsel]

Forest Elder’s base is full of cats. Their main weapon is a diamond axe.

[raw crypt]

twitch stream collab with juggler and pioneer

[rigid mural]

Juggler TS hints say they would be on twitch and I can't believe sky bot deleted my message, homophobia

[rapid arrow]

I feel like the whole abyss crew are just red stone experts

[lyric saffron]

and then the shrimps 😟 (yk what i mean)

[slate saffron]

"Hey guys WELCOME back to ANOTHER minecraft let's play videooo. JUMPING RIGHT back where we left off TODAY we're gonna continue terrorizing children"

[orchid jolt]

I MEANT SPIRIT MANTA

[keen shore]

juggler would be a twitch streamer most similar to jerma985

[raw crypt]

wheres my juggler twitch stream art

[rigid mural]

Cannoneer spotting juggler from afar and sprinting towards them to kill them instantly while they are streaming.

[lyric saffron]

Isle elder will be that one person's grandpa who completely doesn't know how to play the game

[rapid arrow]

Which one of the spirits starts mining and then just doesn’t come back to the surface for three days straight

[violet sundial]

Stealthy survivor would be good at navigating the deep dark

[rigid mural]

Juggler only has time to scream in terror midsentence before they get the death screen.

[slate saffron]

Wait a minute did the kingdom have an internet? Considering they could record things to memory diamonds I feel like they would atleast have something similar

[frigid tinsel]

Pioneer or Abyss spirits

[raw crypt]

warning IT GETS LOUD: https://youtu.be/pC6ONIF7D3E

them

[rigid mural]

EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT

[raw crypt]

LAHSHDHDBD YESSSSSS

[orchid jolt]

spider and bee farms would cover the lands as skykids and spirits alike rush to and fro collecting string and wax and shoving them into crafing tables to make candles

[violet sundial]

NSJJSJDJ????

[lyric saffron]

which sky spirit would be streaming horror games and screaming (also falling off their gaming chair) every time there's a jumpscare?

[rapid arrow]

Who’s the sweat in bed wars?

[violet sundial]

Also playfighting herbalist would definitely make suspicious stew but not tell anyone which effect it has

[keen shore]

Someone lies to flight guide and tells them that you kill mantas to get elytras, and from then on flight guide hunts down and kills anyone using them despite people telling them it’s false

[orchid jolt]

.... the sleepy shipwright? i mean, they are the only ones ever shown using a bed. sure, other spirits have beds, but we dont see them use it!

[violet sundial]

Wait who would eat a pufferfish in game if someone told them it’d give them something cool

[frigid tinsel]

Flight guide and Light Whisperer would try to tame phantoms

[orchid jolt]

i mean, to repair an elytra, you kill phantoms, and they look like mantas and are from the aquatic update sooooooooooooo...

[rapid arrow]

Yes. And everyone gets Talented builder to build the houses

[frigid tinsel]

Talented Builder

[lyric saffron]

How about the assembly spirits?

[raw crypt]

daydream plays creative mode 100%

or on peaceful

[violet sundial]

Scolding student ragequit

[keen shore]

baffled botanist is a Minecraft speedprunner

[frigid tinsel]

Marching Adventurer slows the server down cos they’re always loading new chunks every time they play

[rapid arrow]

I also feel like scardy cadet plays with keep inventory on.

[rigid mural]

I think Marching Adventurer would end up on a screaming minecraft kid compilation, doing Parkour vids

[orchid jolt]

guide uses noteblocks, first pair collect light sources, second pair make parkour courses, third pair make hoops for elytra users to fly through

[violet sundial]

Baffled botanist would accidentally get knocked into a pool of lava and drop all the diamonds they and scold mined in with them

[frigid tinsel]

Assembly guide teams up with Talented Builder

[orchid jolt]

candlemaker would have a bee and spider farm to get the crafting ingrediants for candles

[frigid tinsel]

Assembly kids would live in a jungle biome or that new cave full of vegetation

[violet sundial]

Lush caves!

I think i can definitely see that. They’re very… cozy as long as they’re not too dark

[rapid arrow]

What would the light seekers do?

[frigid tinsel]

Place wayyyyy too many torches.
Except Crab Whisperer, they’re doing a live exclusively in the Nether challenge

[orchid jolt]

collect light source blocks (like torches, end rods, sea lanterns, and more)

[rapid arrow]

I can only imagine mining with a lightseeker

Torches all over the walls and floors

[frigid tinsel]

They’re prob grinding for tier 3 beacons to project Pride flags in the sky

[violet sundial]

Snoozing carpenter using cheats to place structures in Weird Places

[rigid mural]

I want to study them.

[keen shore]

we know vela

[violet sundial]

Playfight paid them 5 bucks to go and overwrite Scarecrow’s farm with something really weird as revenge

[rigid mural]

😔

[rapid arrow]

Light seekers spend way to much time staring at lava
They’d also probably be amazed by soulflames and any other soul things

[rigid mural]

Crab Whisperer: hrgnh
Crab Whisperer: soup
Crab Whisperer tried to swim in lava

[frigid tinsel]

SLS would be placing down redstone lamps, Doublefive Lightcatcher breaks them and replaces them with torches, SLS puts them back, the cycle repeats

[rigid mural]

It's like that pink panther skit with the paint.

[frigid tinsel]

Twirl has beat the game twice in 12 hours

No ,Twirl speedruns

[rapid arrow]

Pfffft. Yes

[keen shore]

twirl speed runs and botanist tries to learn from them

[nimble ingot]

That is an interesting assessment.

However, I digress from skykids being stars, at least being only stars.

The game has changed throughout the updates, and with it, the lore has as well since the days of Light Awaits.
In regards to the Children of Light, the game has once called these figures Stars. However, the name was later on changed ti Winged Light.
While the name has changed, sometime the former names and its relevant lore mah still apply. This has been the case for the introduction cutscene/murals for the game as well as the memory of the ushering stagazer.

Skykids is, and always has been, implied to be a hybrid when compared to the ancestors and elders.
In Light Awaits, they were called descendants. Be that they were the living descendants of the ancestors, or elders, would be unclear though made apparent seeing that a skykid is unique.

The game tends to use colours for its symbolism. For instance, Yellow/white symbolises Light and its purity, it being holy in the world of Sky. Blue represents the Ancestors, particularly their spirit form. Red represents the corrupted and twisted version of the Light, which is most apparent in Eden, where the source of the corrupted darkness resides. Lastly, black symbolises death, while being the opposite of the light (which is similar to the corruption) it may also theoretically be the natural version of Darkness (almost like the ying and yang being black and white).

I stand by my theory of skykids having souls. As this is based on a few details that can be seen in the game as well as in concept art.

Like spirits, skykids can call on their friends in the constellations, who descend in a similar animation, which includes the blue sprite. The blue colour sometimes appear when the skykids flies (a blue light flashes, indicating them consuming energy to rise). This may not be because of the cape, as the cape itself emits white light, has a yellow flight bar, and may briefly flash red when exposed to corrupting darkness.

[nimble ingot]

A final note, when reliving the final quest of the Little Prince in Eden. We see the child be turned to stone. This helps confirm that creatures with a soul would die and become stone there. For skykids, they only turn to stone when they no longer have the light in their cape to protect them. A skykid's soul is very fragile, as when they lose all of their light outside of Eden, they too would shortly die and shatter.

The lore may be open to interpretation, so I welcome folks to present their own interpretations. When it comes to finding the canon lore though, I may not forget where the facts lie.

[lyric isle]

I scroll up and see spirits playing Minecraft

but anyway. this soul theory is interesting 👁️

[bright acorn]

Permission to post here. https://youtu.be/E7WvYfCd7Z0. Delete if necessary

[nimble ingot]

Good video, though you may want to spoiler tag it.

The ending contains beta content that is not yet released to the live game.

Kudos for the lovely editing skills though.

[torn eagle]

Uhhh elo, I wish to confirm something thats been bugging me over the course of delving into sky lore:

I am aware that there was an intro where it said that the spirits were stars that fell and created a home in the clouds

But then this was changed, with the new intro never stating that they fell, rather they have always been spirits, and only when darkness came did the stars fall and their light fading along with them.. Im asking for clarification whether ancestor spirits are still considered fallen stars or not TvT

[nimble ingot]

The elders were the ones that fell as stars in the old intro. The new intro seemingly retells the story from the ancestor's perspective.
It has been mentioned that the old intro may still be applicable, though the new one gives more insight (such as the ancestors' side of the story)

The star themselves could possibly be the winged light we see in the realms (as they were called stars in the past), the stars could possibly be the spirits of the ancestors, which is reminiscent to the real life mythos of the ancestors becoming stars and watching down on the living descendants in the world. The stars could be the elders or even skykids as well.
The stars could possibly be any one of these possibilities, or something else entirely.
There is plenty of debate over this topic, though not much in game lore to help confirm, or rule out, any of these factors.

[torn eagle]

Hmm

Theres one thing regarding elders that weve noticed in the prophecy murals

Idk if this is a correct train of thought but in the prophecy murals the elders were there, but they werent different from normal spirits (clothing and size were similar to normal spirits in murals) its only when theyve been bestowed the power of the elements that they have started to change (both in size and appearance, especially evident in the last prophecy mural)

[nimble ingot]

Ah, the murals is an interesting topic. 🙂

Murals in Sky are extremely important to the lore, as they have helped confirm a few theories, as well as still being vague enough to be discussed and analysed. The size of the elders and their designs are what sets them apart from ancestors in the murals.
The season of Prophecy was nicknamed to be a lore based season for a good reason. As the cave is a place with the most elders in the same collection of murals.

Other places that contain elders in their murals include the memory of the pointing candlemaker, the refusing voyager and the water mural found in the secret area in Vault, which ||surrounds a small island with the portal to the Office||.

[torn eagle]

Mm mm I am aware ||that smile scares me|| but are the details stated in my previous message smth to be taken note of or brushed off? Ive only talked about these in private groups or with people and never really in broader community..

Regarding the other murals ive seen pointing candlemakers and rejecting voyagers, ||as for the murals in the water at office portal I may be blind I didnt see elders there 💀||

[nimble ingot]

The elders seem to have existed before the events of the season Prophecy. This can be deduced by the fact that the elders have already established their kingdoms by the time the elements were bestowed to them.
I may be wrong though, as it may be possible that the elements may have helped the elders gain more power, though the elements were given to them during the time they were among the ancestors and building their kingdoms.

Your observation of how the elders differ from the ancestors is noteworthy.
This discussion channel welcomes lore enthusiasts to share and chat about the lore. Since there will always be new members joining and wanted to learn about the lore, there will be times were past season's lore would be brought up and revisited as many times as need be.

Here is the image of the mural hidden under the island in the secret are in Vault.
It depicts 2 figures, 1 being an elder like figure and the other being the Megabird (or bird of Light). Both are seemingly orbiting each other and may either symbolise the cycle of life and death in Sky, or possibly the balance between light and darkness (life and death) in Sky.

[torn eagle]

Mm mm, noted and thank you for the image 👀

May I send a friend request? ||Take me in as your student, just kidding ^^||

Thank you for taking your time to reply ^^

[nimble ingot]

you can 😄

[hushed steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/bts-bangtan-boys-bangtan-sonyeondan-kpop-bts-v-gif-16507328

[hushed steeple]

Hi Lore chat, a little tidbit I noticed which I'm not sure is intentional or not
Stranger Skykids in game appear dark to us until we light them up.
After pnr and during ascent, we see glowing people flying with us into Orbit. They are the ones we sacrificed our winged lights for.

It further strengthens the connection between Skykids and the "fallen," I think. There's also the duality of light and dark at play here…
…Or it might just be coincidence.

[nimble ingot]

Side question, which I may bring up again later when other users are active and discussing seasons.

What if the seasons follow a plot line similar to the realms' history?
As in, each season starts out slow and empty like Dawn, which holds potential and excitement for where the story would be heading.
Then the plot gains momentum, with the story building up to the apex of the plot.
Then the climax hits and the character suffers a set back.
The falling action brings the story down into what looks like a bad ending, then the skykids that were helping along the way makes things right, and the story ends on a high note.

When I have time, I should look at what the seasons' plots were like and see if they share this narrative structure.
Since the seasons expand on the lore of the main game, perhaps TGC had went as far as making sure the season's plots would echo that of may have happened in the main game.
Like echoes, or pieces of a bigger picture we can piece together; as long as we know where to look and see where the pieces line up.

[torn eagle]

Seasons plot as in related to their quests? Or do you also include the memories of each spirit in the season?

[nimble ingot]

Yes.
Since season of Enchantment, skykids are able to relive the quests of the season.
They are also able to follow along the story each season had to tell.

Come to think of it, perhaps that could be the reason why the season guides do not leave the sky world.
While their fellow spirits have finished telling their story, the guide stays behind to continue telling theirs to the skykids.

[torn eagle]

True it may indeed be the case

But then as of now spirits from season of performance stay within harmony hall 🤔 hmmm

[nimble ingot]

The final cutscene of the season shows them ascending. We also see them on the way to Orbit.

The reason why we see the spirits in the realms has some history to it, though it is more so in regards to replayability of the game. Allow me to explain

In the past, season spirits used to disappear after a season ended. This made these spirits unavailable to all players joining after a particular season and prevents them from getting the emotes.
These spirits used to only become available afterwards as Traveling spirits, allowing players to have the emotes and cosmetics.

Many players had issues with this, as older players would have the emote and newer players would not be able to have them by no fault of their own, as they joined later on.
One day, an update was released that allowed players to have access to all of the season spirits (provided they progressed to the Valley of Triumph at least), though the cosmetics would still be part of the traveling spirit system.

One can say the reason why these spirit stay behind is similar to why the non-season spirits stay as well.
They have ascended, though they are still able to stay in the Sky world and help the skykids.
It could be because the skykids are friends with the spirits. The spirits are possibly not willing to truly pass on just yet. Or, Orbit is not truly the spirit's afterlife, though possibly a place where the spirits can rest and wait for the right time.

[torn eagle]

Ill take note of this

As for the ascending climax and descending narrative

Yes they start empty, as we literally rebuild or revitalize an area as we complete each seasons quests (ever since enchantment, the only exception to this is little prince as no new additions appear in the area after we complete the quests) as for climax then descending, hmm other than flight and abyss (flight where darkness infests the windpaths, and abyss with cackling cannoneer going to the depths and we meet the megakrill) the rest of the seasons dont have a tension in them, theyre pretty "soft" along the way

[nimble ingot]

^^

The little prince starts in the desert and meeting the prince, making the beginning of the friendship with the little prince the starting point.

[torn eagle]

Mmhmm but we dont start "empty" persay, but tru in a narrative perspective there is ascending, climax, and descending narrative template

[lofty totem]

I also wanna point out someting i noticed every time we finish the quests it always said you fulfilled a wish of this ancestor spirit ,i always thought they died before doing their last wishes like saving cannoneer ,achieveing your dreams,fixing the bells in sanctuary etc and like you said why did the spirits stay behind i think they probably had something to do in the sky world but never managed to do it also i think ts is jus tgame mechanic

[unreal shuttle]

I have a few questions about seasons so everyone fell free to answer, what makes season guides season guides I mean have megabird fav spirits?/jjk and what are season quest? Some memories about the season guide or are just dreams that they could make when they were alive? If we do that we change the past? And with this I mean we save cannoneer so? So may questions xd

[nimble ingot]

hmmm...
I used to think it is the guide. Would it perhaps have meant to refer to the spirit involved in the quest, I wonder? 🤔

[nimble ingot]

It is the spirit that hosts the quests and is involved with each spirit.
Though I am not sure, lorewise, what made the spirit the guide other than possibly being the leader of the group.

[formal skiff]

in abyss it seems like commodore was the leader tho (given that they told other spirits stuff in the quest cutscenes), but they weren't the guide

[unreal shuttle]

Yeah abyss is what got me thinking cuz the season guide doesn’t seems like the leader

Plus also dreams have a very different season guide

[lofty totem]

I also think its the guide but i also think all the spirits wanted the same thing

[lofty totem]

What if dreams season guide was a twin of sparkler mom

[unreal shuttle]

I have seen the theory that since the elders in valley are twins that makes there are more twins in the realm and I totally believe that and think this and yes they are twins

[lofty totem]

Wait i made that as a joke-
But yeah you can have your theories

[proper cosmos]

what if the crystal in the eye was originally supposed to yeet up spirits back to their original home

[lofty totem]

Yeah i think that is the purpose of it cuz i think its an ascension beam

[proper cosmos]

and not like, kill and die but just, shoot em up,, and then obvi the storm messed it up and made it a death zone so lol good just getting there

but like what if the beam didn't get all the way there, and orbit is just the place it stopped/let them get to. the lil structures are what they built(?) cause orbit was originally supposed to be a midpoint

(what if) the use of dark crystals was to make the beam more powerful but it triggered the storm

sORRY IF SOMEONE ALREAdy mentioned that,, i started reading the beginning of the whole convo but theres a significant chunk that i definitely missed

[sharp lichen]

I like the idea that Orbit isn’t a permanent place. Maybe spirits can stay on the earth given they have enough light, which could be why the Abyss crew was searching for power diamonds

[spark cairn]

So these two objects look to be powered by those power diamond things yeah? But aren't those things something we have to power on (biggest example: doors)? The only other thing that doesn't need our direct assistance to start up are the boats that lead to enchantment and abyss area. So it makes me wonder: how come these objects don't need our assistance to start up, but things like doors and those glitchy boat things in dreams village do?

[nimble ingot]

There is a treehouse in Forest brook showing dark stones were removed from gate switches.
These kids could in theory have figured out how to use the power diamonds to power their items.
Though either they only knew how to make them float, or did not know how else to use them.

[spark cairn]

The "Assembly kids steal things" theory grows stronger.

[nimble ingot]

Like kids that would take shopping carts and make them into skateboards or go karts XD

[sharp lichen]

Assembly kids are not following the Lightseeker code, that’s for sure

[sonic ocean]

assembly kids steal the lightseeker code of conduct for themselves.gif

[cerulean blade]

earlier, in genchat

[violet sundial]

Ty for moving here btw its a lot less fast paced

[cerulean blade]

npnp anyways, if the clay vessels were a thing, yes they would melt in water but here’s another thing: ||what about the stony blizzard in eden||

if it was wax, possibly, they can break on impact (too much impact for the matter) but since wax cant dissolve in water, it might be another theory: the skykids are empty shells with light (soul) inside

[violet sundial]

I guess it could be a clay analog type material?? Tbh ive never looked into this specific part of sky lore so

[cerulean blade]

when you say analog, do you mean robot models? if so i’m not sure how they would fit, keep in mind that the skykids loose their appearances when they get krilled and when they lose their light

so it could be empty vessels (maybe like a robot) but the light gives then soul and gives them their personalities and apperances

[violet sundial]

Nono, analog as in like… a similar material to clay thats not the same (SANS?????)

[cerulean blade]

following on this tangent, when the darkness takes their light away, it’s taking away their sense of “self” and maybe it could be despair in a sense as they lose their looks and they lose the ability to fly

[violet sundial]

But yeah i’m assuming Skykids soul is completely seperate from their bodies so when skykids lose all their light those two things fall apart

[cerulean blade]

yes, so which comes back to the main topic: what are the skykids bodies made of, how does the world’s physics apply, how are the shells built and how heavy are they

[violet sundial]

I think that delves into some math I don’t have the brainpower for

[nimble ingot]

backed clay may be able to take to water. Especially with knowing skykids keep a flame wihtin themselves.

[cerulean blade]

same here, but estimates will suffice. backread to one of my screenshotted messages, i made some guesses

[cerulean blade]

that’s a good point, there is waterproof clay. and clay and wax can be delicate, but somehow wax doesn’t break that easily unless it’s a thin coating (like a thin layer of wax as a shell) then maybe. its not seen if the shells break when exposed to darkness so maybe its tough enough to sustain that pressure. another theory is that they are made of celestial material.

its seen in the ushering stargazer’s memories that they found a skykid who fell from a shooting star, so that memory rules in another possibility.
edited since not many have seen that spirits memories
unspoilered since it was in a performance quest, my apologies

[violet sundial]

I feel like wax in air is like oil in water. If you hit it itd just split up into smaller things and coalesce into one again after a bit

[potent sedge]

Well, my theory is that the kids are essentially kilns, as they keep candles inside of them to keep themselves warm and being able to withstand water, BUT my theory is the hidden forest has acidic water, and acidic water breaks down stone and clay material slowly

The oil in GW is corrupted water or it could be the same as acidic water

[violet sundial]

Wax is basically just pure light so i think its a clay-analog shell that contains light on the inside

[nimble ingot]

Fun fact, that interaction has been referenced in the Performance quest 🙂

[cerulean blade]

that’s a good point. the ||meteor shower in eden|| could be some sort of physical attack so if it was chemically corrupted, it could steal someone’s light. another idea, what if you shot a skykid’s light, would they die?

[violet sundial]

Also yes. Also skykids don’t breathe but they need air to fuel their flame, which is probably why they can Drown in purer waters

[potent sedge]

I think the wax keeps their candles from running out of wax, which is why in the hidden forest, wax replenishes your light when you're in the rain

[violet sundial]

This is like. Madoka magica core. And prrrooooooobably? I hadn’t thought abt that extensively but if they loose their core (which probably = soul) then they’re just the vessel and light i guess so yes

[cerulean blade]

related to that topic, are the candles the skykids hold related to their life energy? and if we broke them somehow would we be essentially killing them?

[potent sedge]

I think so because when their flame goes out, they can't light beacons or torches and need wax or some other light to rekindle

[violet sundial]

Idrk on that one

[cerulean blade]

yeah, that was taken inspiration from madoka magica and it kinda makes sense? skykids die when they lose their light, so that is another possibility that the light in skykids is similar to soul gems. or if the candle break=death theory is true, it could mean that the candles are the soul gems themselves and if both theories are not confirmed to be true or false, it’s a chance that if either breaks=a skykid’s death, assuming we go by the same logic of soul gems.

[sharp lichen]

HAHAHAHAHAAAAA

[cerulean blade]

in pmmm, a magical girl’s life is dependent on her soul gem, so if it was similar in sky: two possibilities.

1. the light is the soul gem. shoot it, you kill a skykid. its because the light is connected to the skykid. the physical body remains but no soul is inhabiting it so death.
2. the candle is the soul gem. break it, you kill a skykid. if the candle is a certain distance from the skykid, the soul might “disconnect” (like a bluetooth device) and death.

[sharp lichen]

RIKKA YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU CAUSED

[violet sundial]

Oh no

[cerulean blade]

oh no what did i do are the elders gonna scold me now ;w;

[sharp lichen]

We can calculate weight, but remember that weight is mass that’s affected by gravity. We need to figure out the gravity of the Sky world!!

[nimble ingot]

Nooooooooo!
Bad lore, bad lore!
That is terrible!

[cerulean blade]

good point, we need to find the mass first but how do we do that

[violet sundial]

Oh dear lord. Sounds like a question for the engineering focused devs honestly

[sharp lichen]

I was joking.

Context: a few months ago, we tried to find out the gravity of the Sky world. It was a wild ride and I thought I found it, but I accidentally pinged someone who then refuted my claim

[cerulean blade]

but thats a good point tho ngl. if we don’t have the mass, we can’t determine the weight, and even so, we don’t know how gravity works in Sky.

[violet sundial]

ALSO on this I think its either possible the core contains the soul or is the soul. So if the skykids core breaks does their soul just fly about and drift off?

[cerulean blade]

no, it is destroyed. it’s like killing someone’s soul and leaving an empty vessel behind.

[violet sundial]

Also i’m assuming most injuries can be renewed in eye of eden considering we literally rip our winged lights out of the core like… 60 times?????

[cerulean blade]

ok i’m not sure about that, maybe winged light acts as a shield to protect the soul

[violet sundial]

Also that blue light(soul) that leaves our body when we lose all our Light and the vessel gets left behind

[cerulean blade]

maybe the vessel moves on autopilot? like a zombie? a soulless zombie for the matter

[nimble ingot]

As long as skykids have their light, the eye of eden cannot turn them into stone. It is only after losing their last WL, the light from the giant crystal shines bright and the skykid turns into stone.
Note, the Little Prince ||had a similar fate the moment they were in line of sight of the Crystal and promptly turned into stone.|| (final quest spoilers)

[violet sundial]

I think it stays there, and waits for the next Skykid to come and restore its light to it. Only then can it move with the soul as I understand it

[cerulean blade]

considering the prince only has one cape charge, he has barely any protection against eden (havent played the last quest yet but i have an idea of what will happen but it will still be super sad when i actually play it) so it makes sense that he immediately died.

[nimble ingot]

Ergo, the statues had to be skykids, (can't believe I had to agree with that) as there is seemingly no other way for them to get that far out without some from of protection, such as winged light.

[violet sundial]

Because that’s probably what we’re giving our Light to in the first place. It’s a cycle alright

[nimble ingot]

Oh dear, my apologies.
I shall spoiler tag it.

[cerulean blade]

here’s proof that the prince only has 1 wl or smth idkidk

[violet sundial]

The crystal is medusa

[violet sundial]

I think that might be the spirit winged light bug. Spirits didn’t have any cape stars until a recent update. And i think(?) Its a bug…

[nimble ingot]

The star marker appeared on most spirits in a recent update, long after the season of the little prince.
It is unclear what this means for the spirits.

[cerulean blade]

i see, so maybe that piece of evidence i found can’t be reliable, but it’s still a thought to follow on anyways

but still if that was true, the prince just explored sky with one cape charge and somehow ended up in the desert, which brings me to another tlp theory, what if the prince is just repeating a cycle of life and death and he would never be able to see his rose again?

[nimble ingot]

More like, it is a recent development that has yet been explained by the devs (that I know of).

The Little Prince you see there is an echo version of the original character when the season was active.
Supposedly due to copyright reasons, the little prince had to be changed in the game when the season ended.

[violet sundial]

I think he has no light to protect himself at all. But i also think because he has no light whatever’s controlling the rocks (assuming SOMEONE or SOMETHING is hurling them at you, based on old concept art which is. Weird) doesn’t recognize him as a foe until he’s in the line of sight of the diamond…? Idk thats kinda Out There but like… hmm

[cerulean blade]

logic might be: i see light, i kill light, light is bad, darkness is good

[violet sundial]

Something like that. And the little prince is completely independent of that because he’s just. Neither

[cerulean blade]

SO WHY DID HE DIE IN THE FIRST PLACE???

[violet sundial]

I guess it could also just be a passive drain of life or something. Its Very Confusing honestly

Also its like. Really cold there probably

||Just a guess, because he’s more or less human he died by human causes. That doesn’t really explain how he turned to stone though ||

[nimble ingot]

I have made that this back when the season was active.
Game mechanic wise, the little prince is like a skykid whereas players can hold their hands, they were a similar size and had similar animations.
However, as far as the lore is concerned, the Little Prince is/was a living human child.
I am saying was in the sense that the season has no passed and the actual little prince is technically no longer in the game. But to ensure the season can be relived by those that joined after the season, the spirit/memory/echo version of the little prince was added.

[cerulean blade]

yeah imma leave it at that, it’s 11 pm and i have school tomorrow so imma sneep snorp now-good night this was fun

[violet sundial]

||The little prince froze to death 😍||

[nimble ingot]

eyo, it has been 15 days since a certain Sky bot plagued the server with "not that deep" lore jokes.

[sonic ocean]

TLP as a season is debatably canon but im pretty sure any actual crossover characters like the little prince are 100% noncanon

[sonic ocean]

also this is just a glitch 😔

if i had to guess it’s specifically something to do with capes not being able to show up with 0 stars anymore so everything defaults to 1 star

[covert carbon]

Devastated devastated I missed the minecraft chat devastated

[sonic ocean]

ikr

[keen shore]

we can always start it again…..

[covert carbon]

Who’s this

[keen shore]

dreams skater

[rigid mural]

Snoozing Carpenter

[raw crypt]

adventurer

[covert carbon]

This reads like a quiplash game llhlhjkkhhklhjl

[marsh rivet]

does this pic have any relevance in the sky lore? (yes)

[raw crypt]

oh my god sky cotl based jackbox games sounds hilarious

[keen shore]

SAME I WOULD CRY

[covert carbon]

BUDGET QUIPLASH

Daydreamer would be the kind to place bonemeal EVERYWHERE

[sonic ocean]

hairtousle teen cooks using minecraft shaders to overheat their computer

[rigid mural]

Hairtousle teen yells when they fail at minecraft parkour

[sonic ocean]

this is how the fire in the belonging table area started (they wanted bacon)

[covert carbon]

Confetti would have at -least- 4 bees following them at all times

[sonic ocean]

the assembly kids wander off in a random direction from spawn and start roleplaying in the ingame chat

[covert carbon]

Oh the joy to crash the server because you loaded too many chunks 💜 getting lost is the best feeling to me

Thrill seeker jumps in a ravine as soon as they see a single square of water, no hesitation

[rigid mural]

Jellyfish whisperer turns around and sees their loot on the ground

[covert carbon]

LKJHJLJGK

[sonic ocean]

performance crew and rhythm crew team up to collect as many music discs as they can

[covert carbon]

Musician digs two blocks down and calls it a home

[sonic ocean]

performance guide digs straight down and finds diamonds. rhythm guide digs straight down and finds that their pickaxe breaks a lot faster than they thought it would. thoughtful director digs straight down and dies from a lava jumpscare

[covert carbon]

Storyteller tears up when they see a ocelot that is just too damn small

[lofty totem]

Whaz happening here

[covert carbon]

I just stepped in cinnamon
My so k 😦

[keen shore]

we were talking about what would happen if spirits played Minecraft

[lyric isle]

this is my legit headcanon for handstand

[keen shore]

AHAIFUWOUFWKFH I CAN SEE IT. thembo…

[lofty totem]

Ok but thats not lore

[keen shore]

It is if you’re brave enough. & we can talk about other things than lore too

[covert carbon]

OO stagehand would love the multicoloured sheep

[lofty totem]

Ok but as far as i can remember the lore chat was pretty strict about it being purely lore ,we can still discuss other topics but only for a short time ,well i havent been here for a while alot has changed

[keen shore]

We aren’t as strict anymore. Headcanons & jokes are fine. A lore chat that is super strict about only talking about serious lore ever doesn’t sound fun to be a part of at all; I like the casual atmosphere a lot better. Besides, it can help flesh out spirit personalities & all.

When were you last here btw?

[lofty totem]

Ummm like i think 2020 and i left in 2021 and came back again last friday

[untold notch]

who would go hngnrhgnd soup and then die in lava

[covert carbon]

Hold on I think someone said that awhile ago I’ll look for it!

[keen shore]

Honestly Eden is also full of hazards thwt would kill a human too. You can find his shell in pnr, dude probably just got whacked really hard with a rock or something

[keen shore]

of course it was vela

[covert carbon]

Crab whisperer would have like 200 secret bases

[frigid tinsel]

Talented Builder and Lively Navigator: https://youtu.be/hzwf3H2bmAM

[lyric isle]

the fact that postman plays mario kart as a shy guy/koopa main is destroying me

who else do you think would and as who and with what vehicles

[covert carbon]

I don’t know much about mariokart but Dream guide doesnt play very well but likes princess peach

[mighty pecan]

Wasteland elder would probably play hardcore RLcraft

and vault elder would definitely hoard bookshelves

[final mist]

still wondering what peeking postman’s old career was, I rmb Ash said they once had another career which was reflected on their costume design🤔

But cant see much from today’s hints

[distant turtle]

The facepalm spirit, Baffled Botanist would play Princess in Mario Kart 64 and destroy

[visual knoll]

Ayin mains Kirby in Smash you can't change my mind

[final mist]

A little bit more info on Dream from the same conversation

[lyric isle]

reminded of how the Dreams gang were called “retired mentors”

skater-turned-postman then?

[lyric isle]

wait.

hermit apparently was an axe juggler I hear

postman is either what I said or is both

[final mist]

We know animal masks can only be earned once spirits become professional in certain area like bird masks are performing arts related.

But we still dont know if postman got their rabbit mask from being a postman, or from their old career🤔

spinning mentor ts hints said mentor was the secret author of a famous historical fictions series.

[distant turtle]

#general-sky-discussion message wow holy smokes

[lyric isle]

re: this. them as ex-skater might make sense. maybe had great leaps on the rink which earnt them their rabbit image

[final mist]

“When we designed their pants/outfit, we mixed both ice skating uniforms and another type of uniform that related to their past career to create their look”

It was skater uniform+another type of uniform🤔

I had a head cannon of wind band/ brass band uniform

tho that should lead to bird masks

[lyric isle]

slight tangent but I believe Stagehand was once a sailor

this is why

[rigid mural]

omg thats me

[distant turtle]

This is my guess for the “another type of uniform” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peking_opera

[sonic ocean]

postman is the only person legally allowed to play mario kart

[nimble ingot]

Most overdressed spirit. Hardly any part of their ghostly skin is showing.

[lyric isle]

now believing they wear gloves. even more covered

[lyric isle]

peeking opera

[distant turtle]

Here’s the promo image

[lyric isle]

the couple next to one another

[fringe condor]

It’s said the cape was inspired by journey. Maybe they’re introducing lore from an older game?

[sonic ocean]

i don’t think any of TGC’s other games are related to sky cotl, especially not lorewise

thatgamecompany cinematic universe

[frigid tinsel]

Sky has been said to be the spiritual successor to Journey

[keen wren]

Heya lore chat I have a question. Does anyone know what the weird dark mould/spores are that cling to crabs and seem to fall from krills? They seem to make the crabs aggressive and I assume are tied to the dark plants?

[tranquil harbor]

I think they're corruption

[frigid tinsel]

I call them darkness flakes, really just bits of pure darkness

[keen wren]

Ahhh ye that’s the vibe I got from em

[marsh rivet]

lorechat what do we think of transfem yeti

lorechat?

[rigid mural]

lunch

[keen wren]

nom nom

[torn eagle]

Personally thinking that although not a sequel to journey some concepts and ideas have been passed on or recycled to sky (looking at you krill equivalent to war machine in journey)

[gusty mason]

To be honest sky is basically an almost carbon copy of journey, just with added content and different designs

[pastel brook]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/593565781166391316/832872714967842826/Untitled90_20210416150354.png

[frigid tinsel]

Hey haven’t seen you here in a while, now get lost

[covert carbon]

Bot is back!! Hello

[gleaming fog]

Prolly wax when it runs out of energy.

We see it in the forest cave when the people starve to death. It’s also at the two manta that are too cold. It also falls off of the player whenever they stand in poison water.

Plus when we burn the plants, it turns back into the glowing light-filled wax that we’re used to. So if light creatures are made of wax, dark plants could be the remains of starving light creatures

[pastel brook]

is it a bird?... is it a manta?... no, it's a krill! RUN!!!!

[hybrid badger]

Just went to Eden and I kinda realize that this castle is actually the same as the castle seen in the cutscene every time you enter Isle 🤔
Idk

[soft timber]

holds

I wholeheartedly believe that the capes of skids can move on their own, BUT it requires a lot of skill and practice

[sharp lichen]

Quite good, Yeti is awesome all the time

[true wing]

what did i just walk in on
p.s hi lore chat

[sharp lichen]

Regular, everyday lorechat

[true wing]

seems legit

[karmic ledge]

I suppose its been some time, and in honor of them returning: Equestrian outfits were part of the inspiration behind creating Postmans uniform outfit! 🏇

[raw crypt]

OHHH THATS SO COOL

i imagine the sky equivalent would be manta riding or whatever the switch trailer creature was !

[karmic ledge]

yeah! their quest ties into that history of theirs, though they use their mail sled now

horses are a cryptid myth in the sky world /j (or am i?!?!?!?!?)

[blazing crest]

Peeking into this channel and expecting chaos. This was unexpected

[raw crypt]

sky horses are forbidden bc horses are a pain to draw </3

[karmic ledge]

vault scholars have passionate debates over the existence of horses

[raw crypt]

thinking abt it, sky seahorses would be rlly cute

[karmic ledge]

instead of UFO's its UEO (Unidentified Equus Object)

[frigid tinsel]

Didn’t think the deep lore would be horses not existing in the Sky world but here we are

[keen shore]

Showing a sky spirit horse plinko to see what happens. Also hello ash :}

[rapid arrow]

Its like showing a Victorian child a video from today

[keen shore]

Cosmic horror novel in the sky universe about a spirit who is kidnapped and shown horse plinko

[rapid arrow]

Pfft
Spirit: “What are you showing me?! Is this a being of unimaginable power?! Gahhhhhh!!!”

[frigid tinsel]

The plinko is a being of unimaginable power

[keen shore]

The real secret is that horses aren’t real in our world either. Wake up

[frigid tinsel]

I thought birds weren’t real

[rapid arrow]

Horeses and birds are both paradoxes

I have no idea if I’m using that world correctly

[shy fulcrum]

Dark water is ALCOHOL? Or does it have effects like alcohol? Or is there different kinds of dark water?

[rapid arrow]

Probably the effects of alcohol, I feel like being around darkness plants also makes you drowsy

[floral grove]

Has anybody found out the "past" that Yeti and Postman had? I don't know where I read it but I heard that the axes in Yeti's cave had something to do with Postman

[compact shale]

Honestly, it would be worse than alcohol for us

Maybe it's like that for ancestors, but for us, it's worse because standing in it is one thing, pouring it into your innards is another :)

[tough coral]

Miscellaneous Skykid Headcanon number whatever: skykids dont experience Uncanny Valley

[shy fulcrum]

Ah I see. Also, why does the spirits of Starlight Desert have chains around their bodies?

[compact shale]

Representing them being trapped by their vices

[frigid tinsel]

living ancestors were beings of light. dark water takes light. while it may not be alcohol, I'd imagine dark water cause similar effects because it was taking the ancestors' light. they're both harmful substances people drink anyways

[untold notch]

I want to see a sky lore iceberg with horses on it so bad now

[floral grove]

I don't think you necessarily have to be a being of light in order to feel the effects of dark water. Crabs are neither light creatures nor dark creatures but they were still corrupted by dark water. I also believe Ancestors are not beings of light because I remember a concept art showing that Sky Kids are a hybrid of Light (mantas, birds, butterflies, etc) and the lack thereof (Ancestors, possibly Elders too). If Ancestors were beings of light, Sky Kids wouldn't really be a "hybrid" since they would end up being creatures of Light mixed with more Light

But anyways, it's concept art so take the second half of my claim with a grain of salt

[tranquil harbor]

I like the skids connection with the animals of sky. It really does seem like the kids may be actively communicating with the animals at times. It kinda seems like the elders can do that too. I wonder if it's a different power.

[sonic ocean]

sky horses are also forbidden because horses would be like krill

terrifying and with intent to terrorize the masses

[floral grove]

Plot twist: Krills are corrupted Sky horses

[sonic ocean]

also the stuff abt TLP being linked to vices makes me wonder if it’s possible to (loosely, at least) connect the realms to the 7 sins …. Hm

[oak solar]

I mean I see ||eden|| as wrath in some sorta way

But the other sins don’t really fit the other realms

[wispy canopy]

Well golden wasteland could be glutton I guess,it shows they got greedy by using the light and making dark stone for a power source but the rest don't make sense to associate with sins

[torn eagle]

..... Hmmm sloth would fit into prairie, Ayin (prairie elder) cutscene shows them in slumber

Lust would fit into forest (lust for work) as shown by forest elders attitude when you come with light

[oak solar]

Envy might be valley? Because of the twins? Idk

[wispy canopy]

Valley must be pride or envy them

[oak solar]

But isle doesn’t really fit any

[torn eagle]

Hmm

Pride or Wrath could fit eden but then Pride can also fit valley

[oak solar]

I see greed or wrath fitting eden

[torn eagle]

Im leaning towards envy, envy of the other realms lush environment hence travel towards other places

[wanton robin]

Tbh Isle elder can call themself god and I'd agree

[torn eagle]

Hmm I think wrath would fit into wasteland and greed into eden

But then that would leave gluttony to vault @.@ that doesnt make sense TvT

[wispy canopy]

Well they must love knowledge for them to be a glutton of memories and knowledge

[torn eagle]

Glutton... Well it doesnt just apply to food so you may be right

[wispy canopy]

Exactly ,all sins don't refer to exactly what they r

[torn eagle]

It could be lust too (lust for knowledge)

Maybe this is the link between forest elder and vault elder /hj

[wispy canopy]

But why could isle be ,we know it was a lush place with growing elements,and now it's dead and abandoned. Where some ancestors are exiled or died alone

God I miss this group...or should I say the great skybird hahah

[torn eagle]

But even tho it was a lush place why did they still choose to leave to other places? Thinking it may be because theyre envious of the other realms advancements in the switch trailer it was shown to be not so advanced, a very rural area

[wispy canopy]

Agreed ,it also had tents like forbidden ark, and vegetation more than prairie unless ,it was because of the advancement in technology that drew people away from isle

[torn eagle]

(can't believe im thinking so much to piece a conjecture just for fun xD)

[wispy canopy]

Ikr ,why I love lore group

Our own little game theory group right here hahah

[floral grove]

Isle - Sloth
Prairie - Lust
Forest - Gluttony (Manta light extractor, mass harvest of dark stone)
Valley - Pride
Wasteland - Greed
Vault - ?
Eden - Wrath

It doesn't make sense to pair Vault with Envy so I left it as a question mark

[wispy canopy]

I think vault is glutton because it just loves hoarding knowledge and lust is forest

[torn eagle]

Hmm remembered a theory of mine with valley and pride being mentioned in the same sentence.

You can get the masks/headpieces of the elders through standard spirits

The theory here is that what if the personalities of elders are similar to the people who have their headpieces/masks?

Isle - Rejecting Voyager
Prairie - Exhausted Dockworker
Forest - Apologetic Lumberjack
Valley - Proud Victor
Wasteland - Fainting Warrior
Vault - Levitating Adept

[tranquil harbor]

What if Eden is Gluttony?

[torn eagle]

In my personal opinion my list would be

Isle - Envy
Prairie - Sloth
Forest - Lust
Valley - Pride
Wasteland - Wrath
Vault - Glutton
Eden - Greed

[sonic ocean]

i feel like sloth/envy fits prairie better but cant explain why other than vibes

[floral grove]

If you pair those up with the Realms' Elders, it sorta makes sense too

[wispy canopy]

I think need to change watseland with Eden ,

[floral grove]

Greed and Wrath both makes sense with Eden imo. Greed can be reflected by their incessant need to grow stronger which lead to the creation of the storm, thus their downfall. Wrath is also reflected by the storm that's been raging on Eden for centuries

[sonic ocean]

lust might fit vault better? a need for more knowledge, more to archive, there is always more to find and it needs to be stored away

then again idk vault lore so

[torn eagle]

Hmm eden and wrath may fit because of the storm but ultimately I think wrath fits wasteland because of the battle that took place

[torn eagle]

This makes sense too

[wispy canopy]

Hmm for me wasteland should be freed because of the amount of pipes they made and the amount of pollution they caused for their tech advancement . Because they were greedy least thats my take on it

[tranquil harbor]

Tbh I thought Greed for Eden because it's unsatisfiable. I suppose Lust would also work. But no matter how many kids go up there, it never ends. It requires more and more sacrifice.

Edit: And I got my wires crossed. Gluttony is what I meant

[wispy canopy]

The sea level was higher in wasteland ,we can tell in the graveyard that it use to be a pool ,and on the other side if the gates ,there was a barrier and a docking area

[floral grove]

The fact that the sea level in Wasteland dropped significantly is really scary

[wispy canopy]

Greed fits vault because it just keeps taking and keeping ,forest first gluttony because it kept taking and consuming and making dark crystal

[floral grove]

Perhaps all the water that used to be in Wasteland all got dispersed to the sunken quarry of Season of Abyss

[tranquil harbor]

Greed and Gluttony fit a lot of places because Greed possibly being the kingdom's downfall is one of those lesser themes.

[wispy canopy]

I think season of abyss showed that it was designed to be underwater when it was made back then because it had energy walls to keep things out ,maybe those energy walls gave out and now everything is consumed by timeless water

[tranquil harbor]

Some of it seems to be made to be underwater, but I think it might only be up to the gate the krills come out of.

[torn eagle]

So going along this train of thought (Im gonna be using their names from the concept art here)

Is the reason why Daleth was cast out because he rejected the ways of the other elders regarding the use of darkstone? In Rejecting Voyagers memories he is rejecting the act of mining (likely for darkstone)

In Ayins scene we meet him in his slumber, relating to Exhausted Dockworker, simply he is exhausted with the work he has done. (In the concepts it was said that Ayin is the type to help without thinking of his own regard)

Teth... Is a bit of a shot in the dark. In Lumberjacks memories she apologizes to the tree she just cut down. Relating to Teth maybe this shows that Teth is apologetic for something or to someone. It may be because even tho she knows that darkstone and its usage corrupts and is destroying the world she cannot stop working.

Sah and Mekh, with Proud Victor, theyre just prideful. As shown in their cutscene they wont give in to one another and has a little competition over getting the light

Tsadi and Fainting Warrior, in Fainting Warriors scene it shows that he faints either because of exhaustion or death. In Tsadi's scene he also faints after fighting. Maybe Tsadi is the type to fight for what is right no matter the cost?

Lamed and Levitating Adept, Levitating Adept as shown in his memories is a teacher figure teaching others how to use telekinesis. Lamed is also a teacher/leader figure and in their cutscene Im guessing she uses telekinesis to send the memory crystal up above

Now I shall quack quack

[wispy canopy]

By the looks of it prairie has to be sloth because of sanctuary islands

[torn eagle]

Regarding abyss most people think mantas are the source of light for darkstone no?

[tranquil harbor]

Rejecting Voyager isn't just rejecting mining, they're rejecting mining that would destroy historical murals

[wispy canopy]

Technically any form of light is a source to power darkstone ,some concept art shows any animal of light does that

It makes sense why they imprisoned some mantas in their underground facilities as batteries for their work

[torn eagle]

Hmm, correct me if im wrong but they infuse light creatures into darkstone right?

[floral grove]

Maybe just the light essence, not the creatures themselves. If Sky weren't a family friendly game, we would probably see dried up mantas around light factories

[wispy canopy]

I see almost every creature in sky to be an actual form of light ,but when transferred,since they are light themselves they can be energy itself ,therefore having no form which makes sense since they are of light and the most form they retain is what they were intended to be made by which is a manta or a bird

Sry fir making it confusing , basically they have no true physical form unlike us which leave husks

[floral grove]

Ah, you're right. That one cutscene in Abyss where a Manta visibly dissipated as it was giving the player their diving ability is a good proof of your claim

[wispy canopy]

Wait I just thought if something and I need help. So if u think about all the creatures right that are light ,they have no form ,then what about the dark creatures like krill and crab . Is it possible that darkness can pollute living or dead creatures

Like the whales are actually physical,we can tell from their bones in numerous places . Could they be krill ,just a polluted version of them. And crabs have been there since time began ,could the dark versions in the next season a polluted version of them

[torn eagle]

Crabs are neutral, krills are dark

[wispy canopy]

This would show that there are three forms of creatures that exist in sky. There actual physical animals ,like whales and crab. Light that are birdlike animals . And dark creatures like krill

[torn eagle]

Im torn between krill being corrupted light creature or war machine

[wispy canopy]

I understand crab are neutral ,in the next season of shattering I think it's teased that there are polluted versions of them ,and oddly enuf there's a light version of them after like ,redeeming them?saving them?

[torn eagle]

Yep the darkstone crabs or smth like that

[wispy canopy]

Exactly

[torn eagle]

Arent they just souls or smth (i think this is where the concept art of sky kids saving light creatures soul from the darkness is recycled)

[wispy canopy]

Would that mean that crabs can be light but they just have their physical form still because ancestors have exploited the physical form of mantas ,therefore only mantasr light form can exist because their physical forms was prob hunted or used . This is a random theory ,nothing grounded for this statement

[torn eagle]

Hmmm minds a mess tryin to comprehend XD

[wispy canopy]

Hahaha

I remember the last time we tried decoding a bunch of letters on some accessories,never gets easy my friend

[torn eagle]

Tho regarding the manta in abyss... Another pov is that mantas are there not as batteries but experiments

Abyss structures look like a mix between processing and mining area and scientific research

And the ratio for darkstone and manta... Im thinking it may be ratio for technological advancement (darkstone = technological advancment)

Going along this pov its like theyre experimenting on mantas to create bigger, stronger, and better mantas

If I remember correctly mantas are used as beasts of burden, pulling boats not powered by darkstone and as transport in some cases

Even as far as used in entertainment (valley's manta whisperer)

[final mist]

Sorry i was in bed when Ash replied, thank you so much Ash!

Thats a lot of new info (ping off)

[rigid mural]

Krill can be horse if you're brave !

[distant turtle]

Crustaestrian?

[lofty totem]

Imagine how long the mantas have been there after the place was abandoned

[cerulean blade]

riding a krill like a horse lol sky cowboys would exist

[torn eagle]

I think krills ate them all rip mantas

Iirc there are no mantas in abyss? Its all fish, sunfish, and the eel? (I really forgot 💀)

[distant turtle]

Sounds like something a krill would say

[torn eagle]

I-

Idky I said krills there its supposed to be mantas 💀

[outer hare]

I wanted to ask the question, i apologise if its been mentioned or asked before but: what is lorechats thought on the floating handpan that appears seemingly after a small rock has been powered up? Oh and hello ^^ 💜

[tranquil harbor]

The what? You're gonna need to elaborate

[torn eagle]

Floating... Handpan?

[lofty totem]

Do you mean the forest doors yeah theyre not handpans i think those are power diamonds or you meant something else?

[hushed steeple]

I think they meant the one in the Harmony Hall that appears after lighting the candles

[lofty totem]

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOH

But its said small rock thats been powered up

[hushed steeple]

Yeah, when you light the candles it appears to have been powered up but I'll double check for any actual differences

It does got powered up by the candles somehow

[eternal totem]

The handpan at Harmony Hall

Wow that got through late

[torn eagle]

💀

But now that its mentioned the darkstone is powered after candles are lit 🤔

[tranquil harbor]

Jeez, ancestors had some pretty neat tech.

[formal skiff]

*lights candles
*manifests instrument

Yeah, neat tech indeed!

[floral grove]

Krills are found in realms that are exposed to Eden's storm so they could've been creatures that took a direct hit from the storm's blast of darkness which made them "supercharged" with evil energy. Whether they were light creatures or war machines, that I don't know

[nimble ingot]

A stalking creature like this could may as well be Sky's version of a deer.

As well as potential for a horse like creature that I just now realised could be the case based on those hooves and misty mane

[lofty totem]

Yeah power diamonds work with our candles just like vault

Also that place is beautiful i wish tgc bring back other creatures in the concept arts just like what they did with abyss

[sharp lichen]

I always thought that Power Diamonds were used by the ancestors as a primitive version of candles

[sonic ocean]

i love the idea that the ancestors could not figure out how to make candles so they went with Destruction and Death and Diamonds instead (mostly the latter)

[lyric isle]

I DISCOVERED A THINGY WHILE LOOKING FOR FAN SEASON SYMBOL IDEAS

<- THIS EXPLAINS IT MORE
would not be surprised

[torn eagle]

I mean enchantment has colored light which has powers over the elements which actually makes a land habitable for life

Look no further than the ark and its transformation, it can even get rid of pollution

[torn eagle]

But in the tech here candles arent directly shoved in the diamonds face, just lighting the candles nearby activates it

[lyric isle]

yesssssss
thinking about how the lights may be split up from white light, and that one concept art that shows it with the season’s symbol…those lights altogether make up life

was trying to look for a symbol for my fan season idea, found that, got very excited

[keen shore]

I swear to god I remember something about the enchantment symbol having two meanings, but I assumed the two meanings in question were that it looked like a cauldron & a boat…. Waoooooowww I never knew of this one that’s so cool!!!

[keen shore]

what if krills don’t like to be ridden 💔

[eternal totem]

Those were the two meanings, when it was still in beta I thought it was the Arabic letter “ن" (Nun, N) but that doesn’t mean much either

[keen shore]

The life symbol could also be an inspiration bc (I don’t know if this explanation makes a ton of sense but it does in my head) the general boat shape in is altered a lot from a traditional boat. It does look more like a cauldron at first glance, but the way it curves in before it curves outwards on then top still makes it look super stylized. If it was modeled after the life symbol vol posted it would all make sense :}

[eternal totem]

It used to be called Pendant of Awakening too so maybe

[keen shore]

Wait can you elaborate? Like the enchantment pendant was called that in game/in beta updates?

[eternal totem]

Yeah, it used to be called that in beta before being changed to Enchantment, I’m not sure if it was just working title or not

[torn eagle]

Well yellow light is generally considered light (we dont have yellow light in enchantment 💀)

[lyric isle]

more lore food. perfect

[eternal totem]

Ah there it is

[rigid mural]

We never asked horses their opinion on being mounts tbf

[safe sphinx]

if skykids have communication devices, what would they be? (for the story i'm writing again lol)

trying to think of a clever name for sky-phones or something

[torn eagle]

Id like to imagine a a phone powered by darkstones XD as for how software is even developed... 💀

[cerulean narwhal]

clams.... is the only thing popped in my head

[safe sphinx]

lmaoo

true darkstone would have to be the way it's developed since that's the only technology in the whole kingdom

[cerulean narwhal]

how many steps does sky kids have until they ☠️ ?

[keen shore]

ROUND SCARE…

[eternal totem]

Round Scare 💔 I miss you everyday, I always draw him round

[lofty totem]

I noticed white candles are also used in the sky kingdom to activate something like the trials or the first isle mural

[torn eagle]

Ho tru, white candles are candles that activate things

Except for cloud murals on flights stone gates they use grey candles

[sonic ocean]

was the entire season once called awakening or just the pendant? :0

[eternal totem]

Just the pendant, the season didn’t even start yet as this was the pre-order, we didn’t know what it was going to be called

[sonic ocean]

huh. that's 2 seasons with changed names then (assuming enchantment had its name changed right before the season released in beta)

[calm jay]

hmm thinking abt language in the sky kingdom...
elders have their written language, found on vault elder's mask and the murals of the elders in their cutscene, as well as the archive walls. they do paint murals as well, as shown by vault elder's cutscene, but i don't believe there's any evidence that points to a spoken language.
spirits have their artistic language, painting their history all over the walls and caves and boats. they also have the memory containers stored in vault. the focus of their language seems to be showing, rather than telling. i don't think there's any evidence of spirits having a written language, but correct me if i'm wrong.
skykids have their spoken language, in form of honks and calls. they are rather new to the kingdom, not leaving any permanent mark on the world like murals or lines of text. they're more of a "in the moment" kinds of conversation; expressing through emotes and honks, as well as leaving message boats and memory candles that disappear after a few days. (i think it's debatable to say if chat and messages are actually something skykids do or just a game mechanic. skykids honk when they send a message in chat, so i think the honking is how they speak and the chat is just for the players.)