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another has been hit w the brit beam
NO
NO
evil laugh
Respectfully, you are wrong
ok do jellyfish whisperer next
if you say you can't imagine adept sipping tea you are lying to yourself
Unfortunately if I opened Photoshop rn my laptop would melt
KRII SHES TRANS DONT YOU DARE
Yes but not everyone who drinks tea is British
THESE ARE FRENCH VIBES TYVM
Levitate has tea with sparkler and belonging grandma, it checks out
fixed
It’s too late! The Union Jack has overtaken them.
vela is laughing evilly while throwinf baguettes at us
I am dragging you to hell.
how r u gonna do that we’re already in this channel
I can drag you to circles of hell you don't even care about.
Hi this is Aether again with more live updates
Krii has committed many crimes.
Vela has invoked the circles of hell to drag Krii into
Please I’m scared there are baguettes everywhere
vela step up your game, I do that every other weekend
Foreign flags can't be larger than the all-encompassing flag and must be flown at the same height 😡
I am not dragging you tho
I also have bad news to report. It seems that the crystal in Eden has been replaced with the Eiffel Tower.
no I know. I walk through the circles of hell in my spare time
FUN FACT! whenever crab whisperer disappears, teleports, and/or clips through walls while in forests social space, they are teleporting to Britain
TRUE fact
I don’t know who’s side to take but this is a free for all
Don’t let loyalty get in the way. Attack everyone. Feel the chaos flow through you. Also the valley twins are Italian now
Lore chat battle Royale
Do you think the mods gave up on us or did we go unnoticed so far
Since when did the twins become Italian?!
mario and luigi
wait wait I'm gonna cry I just realized this is an actual italian activity... curse you Dante Alighieri
oh my god you’re so right
Fixed
I imagine it’s late for most of them and they don’t care as long as most people on this server are asleep as well.
One Valley Elder is Irish and the other is Scottish. I will not elaborate who
Are the valley twins Mario and Luigi or wario and waluigi… discuss
what r we talking about- i am so confused
Reasonable
British assembly scouts (Forest is Britain)
mario n luigi since they’re actually related wario n waluigi arent
Innit?
Wario and Waluigi are their corrupted forms.
Forest is not British
My live reports
-Are spirits British some say yes other say no
- the twins are either itailian or Scottish and Irish
-krii has committed crimes - Vela is committing Arson as a treat
i love crime
Can I commit a little arson
i-
yes vela, as a treat
I think we can all agree that Gloating Narcissist is British
No they’re French
they're literally french
Gloating Narcissist is gay tho ?
same thing
homophobia
Their British but moreso Shakespearean British
HELP ARE YOU CALLING FRENCH PEOPLE GAY KRII
fellas, is it gay to be French?
The LGBTF community
…Does that mean the Little Prince canonically speaks French when talking to the Skids?
Do you kiss your fellow French goodnight?
VELA ARE U JUST GONNA REACT TO EVERYTHING I SAY WITH AN ITALIAN FLAG
Our kids speak french confirmed
they speak bell dialect
mark of the beast
...wait are the little prince spirits the only ones who like, actually talk to us?
Okay, that’s actually pretty funny.
They don’t talk to us, they talk to LP
canonical evidence that skykids only speak French
i would kill for more spirit dialogue tgc please
oh no it's spreading
SAME SAMEEEEERPEWUPEQTWTHQWET
IF SKY ENDS I MIGHT HELP SOMEONE WHO WANTS THAT
I was just about to ask if we’re the little Prince then I thought for once
thank you I am proud of it
Write fanfiction like me
oh yeah ur right... regardless they're still the only ones we see speaking directly and not having their intentions stated by a vague narrator
already on that
this is because the rest of the spirits communicate with us via sign language. no I am never letting go of this headcanon
shoutout to sky for getting me to write stuff for the first time in like a year
Don’t tell my grad class that I made them read my sky fanfics
Sky really just gives you that feeling you need to sit down and pump something out.
Sorry spade I gtg to bed now, have some more italian flags for the road
🇮🇹 🇮🇹 🇮🇹 🇮🇹 🇮🇹
Sometimes, that something is Tabasco sauce directlu into your coffee
What were these fanfics about?
omg thank you I was running out
dialogue for the end of the 5th abyss quest
Cannoneer: I foun-
Commodore: Now, now. Now's not the time. *bearhugs Cannoneer
Cannoneer: W-wh-what?
Commodore: I've got better treasures to worry about right now.
Cannoneer: W-w-what do you mean...?
Commodore: You're more precious than any of those stones, Cannoneer. I don't want to lose you ever again.
They’re a father figure!
me forcing my friends unaffiliated with sky to read my silly little sky poems
This is too precious for the conversation we’re having at the moment, so I’m sure we all greatly appreciate it. 
One was the Valley Elder(s) angst fic, the other the first chapter of my long winded backstory of the Abyss spirits.
As Salem will prob let you know, the latter fic is just Commodore going around adopting the crew
it’s true but they’re in denial the entire time about the adoption part, it’s really funny
A gift 
SCREAMING
We love some in denial fathers in a wholesome way
I am filled with incandescent rage. Traveling towards your location right now with many knives and a grudge in my heart
Will Fritty ever use the "Vi's not my child, they're my hostage!" excuse?
wait this makes a little sense... his favorite color is grey... that's the color of the sky in Britain...
the dots are being connected and i hate it
♥️ he likes spicey sauces like ketchup
Imagine his reaction to, shudder, barbecue sauce.
my villain arc is swiftly approaching
Sig: Fritjof, your kid bugging me again
Fritjof: first off, Vi is not my kid. second off, you're how many years old and can't get a child to leave you alone?
Sig: you know they don't listen to me.
Fritjof: and that's my problem?
Sig: they're your kid, talk to them.
Fritjof: Vi is not my kid
Will Frit ever say that Vi is their hostage?
You’re not already in it?
i got a hc that fire proph loves spicy stuff and
pov prophecy tries some of fire’s cooking and straight up dies
writing that down
that’s how they became a spirit
And then someone else says that they carry Vi in a very not-hostage way
lines up with the season guide died first headcanon, prophecy guide would encounter fires cooking pretty quickly
I mean,
Crab Whisperer: please be careful with their head
Fritjof taking Vi out of the wasteland:
Prophecy guide's first and last encounter with the fruit loops 💔
Heheh
And running as fast as they can all the while.
THE LOOPS
NOT THE FRUIT LOOPS
HELP
Fruit loops are so tasty, though. (The cereal, I mean.)
All the spirits are really fruit loops if you think about it
Sky Spirit Archetypes:
The Lovable Big Guy
The One that Commits Arson
The One in Need of Therapy
The Young Gossip
any more I should add?
delicious home cooked meal by fire proph
British
The Freaky one with the weird powers.
parental figure
Like whom?
scrunkly
Juggler.
Blorbo
whomst
you forgot the archetype GUN
lesbian (all forest spirits basically)
Their hair always manages to stay up like that despite living in that cold and windy Realm. 
It’s the gel
how much hair gel do y’all think they use
season of hairgel
as much as can fit in a crab
I can’t decide which I like better
-> spirits can project their desired form to us, which doesn’t necessarily match how they looked irl. jugglers just included incredibly crazy hair
-> they had that irl
the guide is just
w their super spiky hair
I’m glad to know everyone in Sky took full advantage of the world’s low gravity in order to have crazy hairdos
Juggler gave
their hair gel but obviously
has a reputation to uphold
What are the pillows and cushions made out of in sky
And did they have comfy beds
Stone
/hj
Every bed we come across is literally made out of stone.
So…sure.
manta wool, I thought we cleared this up already
they did have comfy beds but idk what they were made of
I was not here for that
WHAT. how have you been here this long and don’t know what a wooly manta is
Don’t worry, we don’t hurt the Mantas. Just catch them, take some wool, then let them go again.
made by Vela
this is like when I found out bird didnt know what Tetris was
I know of wooly mantas just didn’t know how pillows were made. I see the correlation now
Tetris is a disease you get when you cut yourself on something rusty.
||just kidding that's tetanus||
OHHHHH I got extremely confused for a second. Fun fact, the entire wooly manta idea stemmed from a conversation on where all the fabrics come from
this must’ve been wicked comfy before everything turned to stone, like hermits pillow is the size a mattress for a skykid would be
woah
Imagine it’s not stone, and hermit walks into their house one day to find a tiny skykid on their pillow taking up the entire space
It’s like a cat. You find a Skykid sleeping on your pillow, you have no choice but to leave it.
hermit wakes up in the morning and skykids r curled up in all the extra space around them
Spirits adopt sky kids because they show up and assert themselves as their kids like cats. Welcome to parenthood hermit
NEW THOUGHT (or not)
To get colours you use dyes. What dyes are available and how to you get them. The flowers blub things in the prairie
What I’m getting at is everytime we land in the prairie we get little bits of colour on our clothes
completely valid reaction, I would snuggle hermit as well. I mean LOOK at them
fluff
*squemch the yeti
Skykid footprints that are just blends of color
how to talk to short people
Honestly I’m a little surprised they even went to the effort of making a bed, they could probably lay on the cold ground in that outfit and be just as comfortable
big fan of bearhug hermit, 10/10 spirit
He needs to come back so I can obtain his music sheet
BEARHUG <3
Yeti is the first spirit we would corporealize
them and the postman’s relationship was such a cute side story honestly,
bearhug…
Hermit suffers from Narcolepsy and dresses like that so they’ll be ready to sleep whenever the mood hits them.
Forgot something, ok I'm gone for good now.
vela… dormi
What was hermit's relationship with postman? I know the postman followed Hermit at one point, but was there more?
Shippers gonna ship
I have a headcanon that Postman's music sheet is their confession song and it was never meant for our ears
hermit x postman
I headcanon it as a squish :3 (which is hard to explain for non aroaces but like… the platonic version of a crush?)
I wasn’t here for dreams and it’s making me sad
they’re gay
I'm ace and I've never heard of a squish
So did their relationship develop a little during the dreams quest? Its been a fair bit since I've done dreams
YES
Like you don’t want to kiss them but you just want to like… hhh it is hard to explain but I know what your feeling
A squish is just I wannna befriend them
I was about to say 'that sounds like friendship' but I also didn't wanna be offensive if it was really different
It can lead to some crush like feelings but is generally not as strong feeling. It’s a bit different than normal platonicism but idk how to explain it
As someone who’s had some really intense squishes
hey what if hermit climbed stuff like a mountain goat
it is different, idk how on earth I would describe squishes and queerplatonic but it is definitely not “just friendship”
edit i misread that was a little aggressive mb
Fair enough
they’re just
Hermit knows that you must become one with the mountain to climb it.
all is chill 
just like I am about to become one with my bed, gog nige
gog nige
This was a very productive day for Lorechat. 
We found out all the spirits are british. We r so good at lore.
beans and tomatos are a good breakfast
ikr
what's with the 6 giant statues at Eye Of Eden's Storm Lock?? (I failed to take a look at them in both of my 1st and 2nd Eden runs)
climbing goats
I wonder what does Eye Of Eden looked like before it became a Storm Realm
btw you dont need to add spoilers for eden here. The statues might be depicting scholars
Bobbit...
what?
Some really rando headcannon, POV your ayin aka prairie elder and Your precious temple has been invaded at 2.0.0 am!
Also a tired waving bellmaker
who's the longneck in the bottom left
Fire prophet

fhsdhdgjsd thats a coincidence
I also wrote a thing about Fire Prophet having a really long neck
Ö Skybot is creeping up on people again
WAIT REALLY AHHAHA IMA LAUGH MY FACE OFF , no wonder why every spirit has a turtleneck lol
No more buff Creb
is that a challenge?
would you like to be necked?
No they already krilled the B U F F creb
Yes
Would you?
#completed-sky-fanart-and-creations message
lmao crab buff but still no neck
Do crabs have necks?
As in, if it wore a bow tie, where would it go?
Between the head and feet, then it is a belt.
On the front? But it just fall off.
A stick on? Then it is a moustache...
oh no not the dogpants crisis
welp, you started it XD
L O O O O O O O O O O O N G L E G S. A N D N E C K
XD, ok I submit, that is a good one 👍
H A H A
oh my word.
Hang on, can ~~it ~~ they beat lesser dog in Undertale?
OMG 1000000000000000 FEET LONG NECK
um... How is the weather up... there?
“ haha funny” said the long necked spirit
What did I wake up to
A long necked prophet


I love it!
neck memes
WOAH HIS HEAD IS ALL THE WAY UP IN SPACE 

“What is that mother?, it the prophet of fire ! Dear! , no it looks like a giraffe”
A "moth" is a new player. They have brown wings, they flap around uncontrollably, and they are drawn to flame!
Last i checked this chat was named #lore-discussion not #sky-meme-2
Lore discussion rarely happens here
badsaw thats an exaggeration
Is it
yes
yall do talk about lore
when it's 3am in the moring for me
Us EST people struggle: in the day, there’s not much activity, but lots of things happen when we’re asleep
I'm from Asia
but yeah relatable
Lore can happen when the right people are online and someone posts concept art for the chat to ruminate on. Though with the latest teaser, there's new food on the table now.
Spade also recently pointed out the vault mural in its elder cutscene has the isle constellation in it, something I haven't and haven't seen someone find before, so...
Here. Pretty cool thing that I think is interesting 
Unpopular opinion but I don’t think the prairie elder actually likes butterflies that much and yes I can defend this
State your argument.
So first of all: I take all those butterflies in his temple very similar to when I first moved in to my old house
I loved ladybugs. They were pretty and considered lucky
But my house? INFESTED
Everywhere I turned there was another
It was terrible I hated them and as much as I’d never hurt the little things I can’t help but remember how terrible they are everytime I see one
So he doesn’t hate them or want to get rid of them. He just hates when they all escape and fly around crazy
He probably looks at them and just remembers how annoying they can be
And that’s the reason he coaxed the butterfly into the pot in his cutscene
Just: “no. get back in there you’re a menace and you know it”
Oh Jesus that was a text wall about why the prairie elder doesn’t actually like butterflies I’m sorry—
anyways I bet he actually likes mantas a lot and that’s why they steal sky kids
He used to just let them steal him so now they think it’s fine and YOINK the skids into the air for rides
Which would the elder find annoying first I wonder?
A moth, or a butterfly?
Or more specifically, several moths vs several butterflies? 
If you mean moth as in new player:
100% reads them stories and loves their visits because he’s sorta lonely over there
Literal moth: ….same as butterfly
XD I mean the skykid moth.
They behave in a similar way. They are small, fly clumsily, are attracted to light, would go wild when another player flies near them, and love to chatter constantly.
Probably likes them because they’re still kids and not tiny bright creatures you can’t even risk catching with your hands
wheeze—
Plus as I said: totally reads them stories and talks to them a lot
especially the poor souls still traumatized by the dragons-
now I’m picturing several moths with the butterfly charmers cape on and the elder just has a moral dilemma
the I saw this and before reading the last part I thought you were gonna say he has the mantas steal sky kids
a group of mantas is called a squadron.
Ayin sending out his manta squadron to help kids find their way in prairie. The mantas take that very literally
sky kid: hey I’m looking for spirits but I’m a little lost on where to start—
Manta, hearing the word ‘lost’:

That is so sweet.
Interestingly enough the concept art for Day mentioned the islands might have been damages by dragons back then and the elder might have fought them off, or tried to protect the realm from them.
Either way, that is old lore and more so, concept art which means that is merely a distant idea of what Day could have been like.
Manta when an Android skykid rides them:
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. :
. :
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I remember getting mantanapped so much as a moth, I didn’t know you could get off the manta
Do you think the elder had ever gotten stolen by a manta?
Did the ELDER train them for it???
Do they even know the mantas do that??
Imagine if Vela drew it XD
I'll do a doodle in the mean time.
I’ll draw them just trying to help a skid at the bell towers and then just:

i just got flashbacks to the manta in prairie I was riding when the whole flock showed up—
omg the ladybug infestation... what an experience... I get that, they're everywhere
don’t remind me-
Ladybugs swarm my house every fall and winter
then when the ladybugs finally move back outside, the stink bugs move in...
I like the ladybugs personally, they're cute! and a lot better than the infestation we've been dealing with in the summers
I do wanna see prairie elder tanking dark dragons to protect their sleepy realm...
this is so cute... prairie elder beloved
I'll see what can be done.
AWWW 
s n a t c h e d
DAY ELDER THE BELOVED OF MY HEART
'A large figure with great arms and yet a cute face.'
A LARGE FIGURE WITH GREAT ARMS AND YET A CUTE FACE

VELA DO YOU NEED TISSUSES
FIRE PROPHET
WHERE IS THIS FROM BTW????
Dreams cutscene I think, probably the last one before the spirits ascend.
appears Heard you were talking Dreams
Wheeze— you can’t just call people out like that—
I can't? My apologies.
What is happening
A small doodle session. And not much else.
I am 90% sure that you’re right, this isn’t my screenshot and the only dreams footage i have is from early beta, which doesn’t have this
Nice
ooh— I have a video of the cutscene somewhere hold on
found it
It is indeed before they ascend let me know if you want it
Just curious, would it be odd if Sky were to lean into other fantasy genres?
Such as in the region of fairies, fawns, dragons and the like?
Event if it were to be an event?
(Less of a serious lore question, though one that helps feel out what the theme of Sky is. Other than the spiritualistic and philosophical approach to past civilisations and its myths.)
sometimes I like to think if the butterflies are actually fairies since they giggle and respond to us a lot
oh true. The chatter and the way they can lift up skykids.
Thanks, perhaps the fantasy section would probably be minimum or a more subtle trait.
As in, it is not in your face (i.e unicorns, fire breathing dragons, castles and knights).
You know how you can pick up kittens a certain way and they hold still?
The elders doing that to moths (and a very rambunctious veteran)
We do have the fortune dragon (which is actually a lion) & the gratitude dragon masks
Vault elder energy
true, dark dragons (krill) too. 
Related question: is "magic" a part of Sky?
It might sound like a stupid question but hear me out
Magic is anything that breaks the laws of nature in a world. So in Sky, magic would be anything that does not fit into the world there – actually, Office is a good example. Also the Switch area.
But I mean if I think about it this way, I don't see "magic" as a part of Sky in this sense.
Skykids can perform spells though 
We can’t tell because we don’t know sky’s laws of nature
What about season of enchantment?
I’m relatively new, I imagine since from what I can gather enchantment was about colored light that it would be somewhat natural because light stuff is already shown to exist
Ah I see
Welp there I go, asking dumb questions 
We can try and figure it out however
When I tried to translate Sky into D&D terms, it seems like it is pretty much a high magic setting. Meaning, there is plenty of magic in the world.
And based on the Promotional trailer, Ancestors can use magic.
If we try and figure it out it might go the same way as us trying to figure out the gravity. Aka no conclusive answer
Technically speaking: sky kids are against sky’s law of nature
what is sky law of nature
We carry a flame
this statue looks new
I think the statues are supposed to represent the queen, am I getting this right? 
Prob a skykid. Dunno what it’s for — just showed up in an update without explanation
That definitely is new, I have no idea
I've heard that it is either a leftover from light awaits or the beta... Meant to be a home shrine. I do agree that it looks like a sky kid, especially with the diamond on the chest, the slits in the cape and the iconic maskless face with the eyelashes... And yes it is fairly recent, between October and December iirc
I like to think it is red bc it is our heart 🥺... Our very being... What makes us alive and authentically us
I can’t find my image of it but could this statue have any connection with the return home statue in the forest boneyard that looks like a bird? they both have like, similar shapes… very smooth
I have noticed this yes... They both seem to be return shrine "scraps" if you will
this bad boy
Yo where is this statue ???
Asking here because spoilers: where is the double high five spirit for today’s quest and where is the best chat to ask this?
Is in the area of the green light behind a tiny tower
There are 2.
One is in the Forest, Boneyard area. And the other is in the Wasteland, Battlefield area.
Both will take you home in a jiffy. These are relics from Light Awaits.
It says daylight prairie in the quest
forest boneyards, before the bridge area
I think I’ve heard of this, sounds plausible
Do you mean Orange light?
why would tgc put a statue like that in prairie if it’s supposed to be a home portal..?
Not sure where the Queen would fit in sky (from what I know of the lore).
That skykid/buddy statue (there has not been an official name for it), was added in an update but not mentioned.
I’ve never really paid much attention to the statues but they remind me of the Hylia statues in Breath of the Wild to collect hearts or stamina. So I’ve just always sort of connected the queen with the statues, especially in the point of no return in eden
I found it
Obviously this one looks like a skykid though. (And maybe the ones in eden too I haven’t been there in a while 😅) Maybe it’s a pointer statue for a flight takeoff range for mantas ?
Some believe the statue helps with merging with friends.
I think it might be able to summon a boat.
Either way, it just appeared one day and was not given an exolaination since (as far as I know).
It does resemble a skykid with the cape, closed eye face, and diamonds on the chest and back.
The statues in eden are the same as the one in Home.
I think the statues might’ve served as markers for a path to the realm temples and eventually eden, though it’s tough to say because we don’t have very many of them
That makes more sense instead of a home portal device. Which to mention, why do we even have home portals ? I think everyone has asked this before but I kinda don’t see the point tgc 
Maybe they were before we had a home button in the wing menu?
I’ve asked that too, some veteran players have told me they’ve used them to get moths to go to home. I think going home using those used to bring you back right next to them, but it doesn’t do that anymore
My biggest theory with sky is that the queen was banished around the time the king was becoming corrupted. Or something happened with her that made the king destroy everything related to her. So the prince ran away and the statues serve as “hey come back” from the king. Or maybe the king just thought he died or disappeared unintentionally so he wants people to remember him
Ah yes the old times when the coliseum was still in good shape and we has a statue in valley and we were still capable to see anything in valley
Good days good days
The Queen? I was not aware there was a figure like that in sky
I don’t think there is. We’ve only ever gotten confirmation of a King and Prince. But a Queen would make things more interesting…and complicated.
speaking of markers, does anyone have an image of those markers you see exiting prairie social space? they look kind of like the flight ones but they have a different symbol, and every time i’ve tried to get an image of one the clouds come out of nowhere and obscure everything
I’ll get an image for you.
Well it’s just a theory of mine to make things… interesting. My theory is the singing in game is the queen’s voice to her child’s. In 2020 the opening cutscene explains what to do for the game had a voice singing and it seemed to me at the time someone was directly addressing me. Now it’s just on the walls in the cave about these to do now so it’s less personal and more like “hey here’s a history now go do something “
but that’s more of an additional fiction type of thing I’ve been thinking about. Not a very canonical thing. Fairly certain the “queen” is never mentioned and doesn’t have any concept arts at all.
Yeah, they kinda look like King symbols.
I always thought it was Megabird, singing
It was a remnant of Light Awaits.
I am not sure if it worked back then, but it does work as a vute trick for moths.
Do you think the islands were always floating in the prairie
wait a second- what if the entirety of prairie is floating because in sanctuary it goes down lower and there’s an ocean???? 
Ok so what I think just based on geography is that it’s a cliff side prairie. So like the highlands
What do you think happens to sky kids that fall off the floating islands in bird nest and into the ocean far, far below?
dying this was supposed to be a reply
I think they (the prairie thingies) look like what we see when we honk. I think the ancestors would’ve been connected to the light, but not as close as us. maybe while we can follow the light directly, the more in-tune ancestors left those markers to help the rest of the population
they go swimming
I got my summer plans guys—
what is this monstrosity
loops
Ok ok ok so
- The main prairie has to be up a bit. We know it’s not at sea level cause in the bird nest we can see the ocean far below us
- The sanctuary isles are on sea level and are connected to the prairie by the Birds nest
So small conclusion the prairie is an elevated prairie resting on a cliff with an island not far off the coast
has anyone noticed the big statues of Resh outside GW temple? because i just did yesterday
Yup. One of the clearest depictions of Resh we have. And likely will have for quite a while.
Ohhhh I understand now!! I like that idea a lot

i kinda knew it was him because of the head
Resh ?
sorry I’m not to plugged into the lore discussion terms
was it the full hight of the mechsuit or merely an exaggeration? i'm not quite sure, because some people have said he was quite short
the king- it's his real name apparently
Resh is the king in name terms, but I believe are now defunct
OHHHHHH
THATS SO COOL I DIDNT KNOW ANY OF THE SPIRITS HAD NAMES
DOES THE PRINCE HAVE A NAME???
I believe this is an estimate how how big he was compared to the statue.
like the Cliffs of Moher?
but why would the statues be in wasteland?
YES EXACTLY LIKE THAT.
With the cloud gone I’d imagine there be more flowers and more water
Maybe Wasteland Elder had then build because he admired Resh or something. I don’t know. But Wasteland was an important place, so it would make sense to have statues of such an important figure there.
if the darkstone factory was in the season of abyss, what else might have made Wasteland important?
an idea was that King Resh demanded those be built
It was also the primary site of the war that happened, I believe. Not to mention the fact that there were likely numerous factories across it, not just in Abyss.
consider Wasteland and the Vault's close proximity to Eden
yeah, there's a lot of pipes in the realm.
Ok so
In my mind, the proximity of Wasteland to both the vault and Eden, makes it a big place protection, Resh being king, probably made them built as a show of like. You are near Eden and the Vault be on your best behaviour
If that didn’t make sense
The statues were made because the wasteland is like a built fort to protect Resh and the vault
Perhaps the queen is Megabird 👀
Megabird is Resh's fursona
Also have yall seen the massive king head on top of the wasteland temple up close? 👀... It's possible to fly all the way up there
the what
There's a king symbol/head on top of the temple in gw
And when u first enter the area you can kinda see it from far away, dimmed out, but it's so cool to see it close... I can take yall if u want lol it's quite the expedition
another question i have is why are there two temples? there's one at the beginning and one at the end of wasteland?
Rlly?? 👀
The one at the beginning is a factory
is it?
Yes. It's the same thing at Forest Mama's temple, except with her, she's more of an industrial elder, so it kinda makes sense her temple is either themed after a factory or just plain is one
I think her Temple doubles as a factory, yeah.
i thought it was a temple
It is for Forest Mama, but not for Wasteland. The elder temples are themed after their elder.
Sorry if my replies seem stunted I'm at geyser
When you finish all the cutscenes, in the final one that you cant skip, you can see the big wheel thing turn and release what? Mantas. We know mantas were trapped to make power diamonds
tbh this is why I think Forest Temple doesn't act as a factory, but is only themed as such. That big device opens the door, when I feel like it should do something not like that at all
And like, sure, maybe Forest Mama opened the door herself, but why would she fix the manta blender regardless?
Yeah. If you piggyback rocket your way into the spinning gold thing, it’s empty. And while that may just be because there’s no point to put anything in there, it could be literal. It looks like the light draining machine, but it’s just hollow inside. A decoration.
Also maybe they for show. Like show dogs, to show off everything she had created to others, show off the fruits of her work, the mantas
i absolutely refuse to believe mantas were harvested 0/10 would not recommend

I mean, we slaughter animals every day for food. So long as the mantas were harvested in a 'humane' manner, it's fine. It was just livestock agriculture
Things that make you go hmm
i emotionally cannot—
I have some theories on what those actually mean but I can get to them another time cause I’m sort of on and off right now
…trapped creatures of light power the power diamonds? 
I think that might a possibility. They could have been trying to figure out how to use their energy to make power without outright killing then.
Can they make energy with fish but the spirit eat fish can they eat manta
We don't know if Manta are edible tbh, but they do use mantas as horses
!friendsnotfood
Sorry didn't like the idea of manta food very much 
The topic of food naturally arises often... but please remember to treat all skykids and sky creatures with kindness and respect. And please keep the conversation out of the gross-out-for-fun zone!
I’m late but I remember teblanko noticing it as well. Unfortunately, we couldn’t talk about it much because none of us had any idea what it meant 
Please don’t test if mantas are edible
I noticed 
I'm watching you Isle Elder… 
If everything alive is made of light and we can eat light, then everything living is probably edible. I get the feeling that ancestors don’t really get the concept of poisonous food maybe, or that they didn’t need to, considering playfught herbalist landing in a strange place and IMMEDIATELY eating unknown mushrooms.
So you could probably eat a manta without physical consequences. Mental consequences, however,
Isle elder just changes costumes and heads to vault every day
ok but it’s definitely odd that the shape for daleths big stick is used to represent another elder directly
Now this I can get behind! 
Also, we kinda do consume manta energy? They do recharge us in quite a few places…
Also they changed the intro from showing all 6 constellations to only the Isle constellation…
Reminds me of that one area in journey !
What area? I never played Journey
Ill try to find a video for ya!
https://youtu.be/PAJswZ9cgOI?t=1613 theres a time stamp of the area! (spoilers ofc)
huh.
We love manta factories! So ethical 
You know what bothers me the most about this mural, for no good reason? Why are there doors at the END of the underground tunnels that are next to the manta tanks. They wouldn’t open into anything but solid rock. Why are they there
The only other thing besides doors that they could possibly resemble is the twins’ elder statue, which is an even weirder thing to be there
Maybe the corridor wasn’t mined out at the time of the mural? They could’ve planned for a larger factory. Either that, or they started it but stopped because they would hit the water
Also I just realized something about possible vault/isle connection… there’s a somewhat common headcanon/theory that the isle spirits predicted our arrival, and due to
there’s an obvious connection to seeing the future in it. I remember some headcanons and maybe a piece of concept art that mentioned vault being created to protect all the civilization’s knoelwsge so future travelers could see it even after it was gone, which is pretty similar to how isle works
The thing is, vault failed while Isle succeeded. Thus proving that Isle is best

Okay, maybe, but 2 weird things about this still
- the ocean is Rught there, the tunnel could not continue much further
- Why would they install doors BEFORE mining the area out behind it
that preservation of memories idea also shows up in the forgotten ark! there’s a bunch of memory cubes in the completed ark. Also I don’t have exact quotes but i believe the enchantment spirits are described as traveling “to a better land/future”
So it’s likely that when the Ancestors saw the demise of the Kingdom, they created murals and memory cubes to tell their story to the Skykids
could also explain why the ark murals depict what they do… to leave a message about their civilization for whoever came next
Ench is weird to me in that regard because the murals on it seem to be painted as if they were traveling around the kingdom and heading TOWARDS vault, but all the tidbits of outside game evidence (and some not super noticeable in game stuff) point to it being a preservation ark like you said. Plus if it was to preserve the kingdom… why would they head TOWARDS the disaster instead of away from it?
Wait, what if instead of being a preservation ark for the entire kingdom’s culture, it was just for Isle’s… that would make a lot of sense actually. The huge focus in murals on spells and the colored lights, things Isle seems to be a center point of studying. The similar artstyle of the ark murals to the isle murals. Traveling towards vault in order to record their realm’s culture as the last people leaving it, but failing.
perhaps they were planning on building an extension to the facility or the doors would open up to the sea for some reason.
or perhaps these aren't doors. you say they resemble the Valley Elder(s) statues. we know Elders can have more than one altar statue – they at least have three each (in their temples, in Vault Elder's space, that place in the post-revival ascent of Eden). if those are other Elder statues, what would they be for/what sort of experiment are the ancestors pulling with mantas and (mock?) Elder statues?
what if they're portals? or a charging station?
ughh
making the valley elders even STRONGER so that they can perform mitosis yet again
they kind of remind me a little of the thing on the left in this prophecy mural
So maybe. Like how the Greeks built their temples. The statues work as different homes for the elders. Show that they can transfer to one statue to the next
In all seriousness, the doors(?) are such a weird detail that I don’t know how to explain them. Alasdairs idea does make the most sense, but it would be weird to get such an Improtant detail from something that looks a lot like a mistake on a mural.
I’m still thinking about the enchantment spirits trying to record as much of isles culture as they could on the ark
I need to make a more fleshed out and coherent theory post on this later. It makes so much more sense than them traveling away from Eden to record the kingdoms history, and explains them bringing stuff like seeds (maybe of plants native to isle) along with them. It also explains why they’d be traveling to vault, in order to record their civilizations memories there…
Imagine isle after they left. Were they the last people to leave, or did they leave others behind? Did they stick around until it became obvious that they couldn’t anymore? What happened to isle elder afterwards?
I imagine that there were still people in Isle. Some might just not have wanted to leave, convinced that it would be safe considering how far from Eden it was.
This would’ve been pre disaster though, hence why the ench spirits were traveling to vault ( and considered it a safe place). With this interpretation, isle becomes the dangerous place due to lack of food and resources, not Eden
Like I believe pointing candle maker stayed in the isle. But then again we’re not sure where they fit in with the other spirits in the realm
if anyone can read cursive i have a photo of relevant enchantment quotes i wrote down when i was bored during class
Might have had a supply of food for emergencies. Remember that cave in Isle with the three orbs and the cake at the end? I wouldn’t be surprised if they tried to use that as a shelter.
enchantment swag bc writing things down helps me grasp stuff better
sorry for my handwriting i also can barely read it
Also! In the area where you can find the winged light. It looks like a very empty house. And behind are similar shapes covered in dunes. Possibly under that sand are more houses
Like layers of ash after a volcano. I like it. 
Shelter wouldn’t really have been necessary at this point in time. The danger in isle would’ve come from its desertification and the near impossibility of growing food there, due to the sudden biome change and the general lack of farming knowledge, as well as mayyybe not being able to get more resources from trading with the rest of the kingdom due to exile. They didn’t have to fight darkness corruption or anything, just starvation and the sudden disappearance of all the resources they needed to maintain a civilization there.
Note how empty isle seems architecture wise compared to the other realms - maybe this means it was abandoned sooner
Purple light looks a LOT like the symbol for darkstone oddly enough. I think I’ve seen thr symbol before on some spirit headpieces let me check
Nvm, the symbol on spirit headpieces is < <> >, not <•>. It resembles the symbol for our WL a lot, though, interestingly enough it only seems to be on the base game spirit masks resembling the elders’ (like rejecting voyager’s) which further proves my theory about that symbol being connected to elders.
Interestingly enough, waving bellmaker DOES have this symbol on their mask, though, and they have a pale mask reminiscent of the Lightseekers’
Also speaking on the architecture of sky. In particular the prairie, the bridges that we see were probably built during the golden age of the kingdom so which leads me to believe that maybe there were more houses and homes built beneath the clouds 
Tbh isn't Wasteland beneath the clouds?
The mask they give isn't white like on their model though, same for other elder mask spirits. I think it's a lighting or model thing more than a link to lightseekers 
The “cloud levels” in wasteland get a bit confusing at times, to be honest. Look at Ark. when we enter the area on the boat it’s floating on a sea of clouds, and yet when we look up there’s still a “ceiling” of clouds covering everything. I wouldn’t be surprised if there were even more levels beneath Wasteland. The Sky world might really just be clouds all the way down, with the occasional ocean or speck of land covering above that level. Gravity is pretty weird in this universe.
Sky has layers like an onion
Or a tiramisu
The lore has onion layers, the kingdom is a tiramisu
It Could be a case of the mask’s actual base color being altered to fit in with spirit color palettes, I know ascending spirits at the very least does weird things to their cosmetic colors. Can anyone who’s bought the actual mask let me know if it’s white when they get it or cream?
you don't even need to buy the mask, you can try it on in the closet
good point I have no brain cell
Lorechat shares the braincell, and it was not your turn
It just gives you the cloth covering on top as the cosmetic, not the actual mask beneath it, so I can’t tell for sure
Before I forget, and because spade posting the lights reminded me, I had this theory that you could organize them in a wheel pattern based on their relativity to the light or darkness. Kinda like a color wheel. It would be like…
——Mind——
Fire———Air
[light elements above, darkness below here]
Earth——Water
——Void——
Elements that are opposite from each other are opposite in terms of function/general traits. If anyone wants me to explain I Will
I understand what you're talking about. It's common to arrange elements like this in RPGs
I see you've requested a trial of Alasdair's transcription services.
Spade’s Enchantment Notes
Isle of Dawn – Cyan [light] right before prairie social area
Daylight Prairie – Green [light at] Bird Nests
Hidden Forest – Orange [light] near the wl tower in the Boneyard
Valley of Triump – Blue [light at] Valley ice rink
Golden Wasteland – Red [light at] Forgotten Ark/Crab Fields
Vault of Knowledge – Purple [light in] Archives
light symbols as numbered
Red Light (#1) Nodding Muralist
Blue Light (#2) Indifferent Alchemist
Cyan Light (#3) Crab Walker
Green Light (#4) Scarecrow Farmer
Purple Light (#5) Snoozing Carpenter
Orange Light (#6) Playfight Herbalist
quotes
"A group of Spirits started their voyage towards prosperity. Take the boat and set sail."
"Follow their path, a new land awaits..."
lights location hints
- "where darkness prevails"
- "rumors point toward the pure water of a mountain lake"
- "lingers among the early gusts of wind"
- "the fable is that they are gifts to the earth from the sky"
- "it is said they hoard ancient secrets"
- "they offer warmth in times of cold"
illegible
it says rumors
Even the mighty Alasdair could not do so perfectly
Thanks. My brain was reading it as “nemesis” and I knew that wasn’t right
understandable, no one lets me write things on posters
My general idea for where I put them was this. The “middle” elements (everything but Void & Mind) have traits from both sides, but lean heavily towards the side they are placed on. I’m gonna explain a few of them.
Mind/Purple Light Manifesting illusions made of light and pulled from the jmagination into real, tangible things. Pure light, no darkness aspects. Pretty self explanatory when you think about how it works.
Fire / Orange Light Control of the fire element and/or heat [it’s hard to tell, but it doesn’t matter a lot].
__Light Traits__is pure energy, provides heat, associated heavily with the Sun. Aligned with flame, which is worshipped and seen as synonymous with light, but my not be entirely the same.
Darkness Traits: can be extremely destructive. Although necessary for life to exist in some places, it also destroys it by function, because it’s fire.
Air/Cyan Light Control of air and air currents. Leans heavily towards light, either has some darkness traits that I’ve missed, or its light connection simply isn’t as strong as Mind’s, hence why it gets place below.
Light Traits: Associated with the sky and open air, where light proliferates. Necessary for most life. Bursts of wind recharge inner light (wasteland cyclone, wind path winds). Clouds do as well, but those are technically made of water so I’m not sure if they count.
Earth/Green Light Opposite of Air. Either controls the earth itself or nature. I lean towards the latter just because of in game evidence and the fact that it’s green instead of brown, but I think it can represent both, hence why Prairie floats so much. Leans towards darkness, has some light aspects. This one is weird because the ground idea connects more to darkness, but the nature idea is the opposite. I think I already explained why I consider earth and water “dark” elements, but if I’m being honest, earth is the most susceptible to switching teams based on this discrepancy.
i don't know if it's just me, but the starlight desert has a lot of purple, could there be a possible connection to the purple light? someone mentioned that the starlight desert has the power to show illusions or something like that.
Oh yeah definitely. The entire vault and surrounding areas are obnoxiously full of purple light and it messes up EVERYTHING
vault is such a funky realm… like what is even happening with that
wjo even knows at this point. we should make a meme that’s like “this is ur brain on purple light”
this is ur brain on purple light
look at the wall behind the wasteland temple. logically this should be vault but it’s absolutely mind-breaking. it’s huge
Counterpoint: vault is mind breakingly large as well
I don’t think i have any screenshots that really show how massive this thing is
it’s so big. The bricks are literally so big they are large and massive
yeah, we could use that
the tunnel out of vault proper and into the starlight desert is also really really long. like looking back from the desert to the vault, at no point do you see the light at the end of the tunnel before the screen fades to black and you enter the next area
vault huge
Since it’s so big, what if vault got purple light-ed into reality instead of being built the normal way?
i can think of no way for beings to actually build this normally, so that’s a good idea
It would explain why it took so long for it to be built (only shows up in prophecy murals of later kingdom)
Maybe purple light is what enables the vault elder to make it dreamlike
sky literally has magic
Could you use purple light to manifest living beings? Maybe that’s why the vault mantas look so weird, they tried to do that and it didn’t work
The element is associated with mind, so maybe it draws on the memory cubes lying around to project the level
yes we are talking about magic
How was the pyramid built?
History channel: Aliens
Sky: DIAMONDS
The giant worm thing in level four of the vault
yeah, I think I misunderstood your point.
yes and. what is the magic? purple light. gottem 😎 /j
Not the aliens, these kind of takes give me aneurysms /nm
One of the curses of being a night owl.
I'm not a night owl 
I’m glad you mentioned memory cubes, because my idea is that you could put purple light in darkstone and have it project/manifest things like purple light controlled by someone normally would. Maybe you can only do it with puplre light because it’s the purest element towards light or something? Anyway, that’s my idea on how the lanterns work
my personal little theory about memory cubes is that they were originally created to preserve recordings made with memory candles, as normal candles (i am aware sky candles are weird but hear me out) wouldn’t stand the test of time like stone would
My idea is that it mighr be the other way around. Like we saw memory lanterns and the candles are just us imitating that, but it could be the other way around - I don’t know much about how the candles work yet
as far as i’m aware, they’re introduced by a performance spirit (image is from an official announcement)
Oooh then never mind. I’ll still have to mess with them in game before saying anything theory wise about them, but that is interesting…
Also I love that spirits design. EXTREMELY friend shaped, cat ear hoodie, dark blue? beautiful I love them
THE SPIRIT IS SO GOOD I CANT WAIT TO MEET THEM
Blows kisses to the performance crew.
We must combine the heart emote and the bubble emote.
Admiring Actor
Possible funny implication of tlp: ancestors discovered powers of purple light, immediately tried to exploit it by duplicating all the elders, failed
Ok this is completely off topic but I have a question.
As I have learned from concept art (so this might not be current lore) the battle that happened in wasteland is between spirits and creatures.
My question is were they fighting light creatures or dark creatures?
Were they fighting krill or did the krill come from the dead light creatures?
tbh my default guess would be krills
Last question begins and Admiring Actor shows up out of nowhere. We would lose our minds. 
I need Rhythm guide to come back for holidays, I never got to meet 'em
Disclaimer that this info is from concept art, so might not be true anymore. However, based on the size of the weapons in wasteland and what it seems like they were used for, I would say that they were fighting krill instead of other ancestors. Although, it could’ve been both and krill were simply involved because they’d been weaponized somehow by one side
there exists several different theories on what exactly was going on there, salem outlined one but there are others (that i don’t really know well unfortunately)
Please 🙏
rhythm guide please come back for next days of rainbow, i would go wild
Alr well thank y’all for a little more clarification. I’ve just been finally reading all the lore documents and just started on the theory vault. I’m honestly not active in this channel as much as I would like to be.
The only other one that I can think of off the top of my head is the theory that there’s two sides and it’s ancestor v ancestor, outlined by the two different symbols on the shields. Personally I don’t believe this one is true, but it does exist, and it’s the main theory competing with mine
But would the opposing ancestors be the good guys or the bad guys?
Also do you guys think that the giant ark used to escape (as mentioned in more concept art) is still canon in the current game?
I don’t think we’d see that kind of black and white morality in a conflict in wasteland, especially between ancestors
depends on how you look at it. the leading theory is that one side defended darkstone usage while the other was against it and sided with protecting the welfare of lightcreatures and the world.
True. Tgc likes to make everything vague haha
I personally don’t think that one is canon either. My guess is that it was scrapped and altered later into the enchantment plot instead
I think it depends on what they were trying to accomplish. Are their any theories for why exactly they would be fighting each other, if that’s what happened? Maybe people trying to take refuge in Vault from the Storm but the soldiers had orders to stop them or whatever.
you’re right, and I do learn more towards agreeing with you on that one. I was just thinking sad Tsadi thoughts
Sad Tsadi thoughts 
Consider: dusk watching all their friends and their realms slowly being wiped out by darkness corruption, slowly becoming more disillusioned with the rest of the kingdoms ignorance towards the consequences of darkstone, and leading a rebellion only for it to be wiped out later along with them. they feel guilty for “causing” the rebellion, and by extension the deaths of everyone involved in it
We really never give Tsadi a break. : (
speak for yourself I want to make them soup
Tsadi will never give you up.
In my headcanon/ficverse, it took Sunset Elder(s) wounding them (hence the injury in their abdomen) to snap out of it.
Although Dusk could’ve been hurt by krills.
Will never let you down.
Will never run around, and hurt you. XD
constant sad tsadi thought: he looks like he’s about to stab the fire prophecy light. He jumps down, battle-ready, in his cutscene.
Tsadi never stopped fighting. Not even when the battle was over. And that’s my personal hc for why there are giant weapons scattered haphazardly around the battlefield
Never make us cry, or say goodbye.
Wasteland Elder has ptsd
they are not doing well
Ooh! I have more questions haha
Do you guys think that the human world is in the lore? And if so then is isle of Dawn the connection place?
Also is Daleth still the ferryman ancestor? And if so then who did he ferry and where to exactly?
Also unrelated but does anyone have a screenshot or video of the one mural that shows tsadi fighting the eden elder?
for the last question, if you mean the sanctuary one, I am 90% sure those were prophecy assets that weren’t supposed to be there. I compared the figures to the prophecy murals, and the wasteland elder shows up twice, one looking battle-ready and the other standing and watching
There was an old concept art that showed that the human world was below the world of Sky and that the ancestors and Skids are souls from dead humans. I don’t think that’s what the current live version is, but if there ever were humans in sky, that’s how they would fit in.
Lots of my lore theories come from concept art so that’s why my questions are weird
I think ancestors are suppose to be the “humans” of the Sky world. They were once living in the Sky world but they’re all dead and spirits now
Yeah. I think that’s the current case. The human world was left out leaving only the Sky world.
humanoid, but not human. love those guys
The human world was only mentioned in concept art by name. Supposedly the Office (secret Vault area) would count as the 'human world.' However there is an old dev quote saying that the office is not canon. Which either implies that part of the old lore (Light Awaits) might not be valid in the current lore of Sky (Children of the Light).
Daleth, the Elder of Dawn, is a ferryman. Even if his current cutscene does not show him guiding ships. It is stated somewhere that he could be retired, which means he might not be guiding spirits anymore, but he is instead guiding skykids on their journey.
Perhaps whenever we are on a boat, one can say that it is thanks to the dawn elder indirectly helping us.
I am not sure with my notes, though am sure the Lore chat has it.
It has been noted to be a bug though, but it is/was an interesting find.
Wait what’s the bug?
Isle Elder: I'm retired
World: -has apocalypse-
Isle Elder: -Deep Sigh- Come on lil children, you need to go wake up the others
Not really. To me, the Office is an intersection between the real world and the Sky world, similar to Starlight Desert
If I recall correctly from patch notes on it during Season of Sanctuary.
But in his current cutscene he does guide the birds and us to Eden. I’m not going to say what the angst is behind that because I made myself sad.
But it is noticeable that even he doesn’t ferry us directly he still does show us the path we’re meant to travel on
Ohhh haha I forgot about my last question haha
Love the idea that Daleth is way too old for this nonsense but is still fully willing to help us out.
He’s a grandpa
I’m still gonna send a screenshot of the mural tho! just for fun
Another question sorry, but what species do you think the prince and king are?
I have a rlly inaccurate hc about this but I wont tell the whole story unless someone wants me to
skybot I swear....
I am going to show what WILL trigger you if this keeps up.
My personal theory is that the king is us in a way. I will elaborate if wanted
Lol that’s sort of ish similar to my hc
Pls do elaborate
There’s a theory that the King was the first ever Skid, which I think is interesting. But at the same time, it’s questionable why one of us would be sent down when we aren’t even needed, so to speak. Maybe he was an experiment, or maybe he was just a normal ancestor. But I personally think he was an Skid that was born in the “wrong time” and things took a downturn after he conquered the Trials.
I don’t think we know for sure but if we’re sharing theories. my personal idea is that they’re a child of light, but not a sky child, the difference mainly being flight ability
Some believe they were a typical ancestor, some think they’re the first skykid or a proto-skykid. The latter idea takes from his concept art depicts them as small and with a headpiece similar to other skykids at the time as well as the possibility the Chosen One was a skykid.
THATS LIKE MINE! gasp! yayyyy I’m not alone in this theory
Mine was inaccurate tho cuz I forgot that the fallen stars were spirits
But wait… if spirits are fallen stars why do the skykids that we give wl to in pnr return as stars in the orbit cutscene?
I think the prince/king figure wasn’t the only child to fall around the time, nor the last. Connecting to what i’ve said before about the isle intro murals potentially being there when the prince fell, maybe the realms truly were in danger, and for a time the prince restored the light
True.
It was the old cutscene in Light Awaits that showed the elder call forth 4 boats, not to mention his mask breaking a while after it was restored. Which helps enforce the idea that skykid cannot make a change permanent on their own.
In a way, the change feels like throwing out the baby with the bathwater.
The elder is a ferryman, yet there are no working boats in Dawn. The realm is where the whole civilisation started, yet there is nothing, not even a shred of what could have been there. Even if Skykids can fly, knowing that they can use boats could tie in well with the idea that the elders are indirectly helping (see village of dreams).
I wonder if the king was legit the chosen one, or, if they're a skid, if the trials are just naturally easy for skids.
I've heard before (don't quote me) that some concept may have said the skids were less 'worldly' than spirits, in that they were less attached and spiritual things came easier to them. (They meditate like no one's business, human kids can't sit that still to save their lives)
Elders are indirectly helping? Village of Dreams? Raideeeeeeer, explain 
if spirits are fallen stars why do the skykids that we give wl to in pnr return as stars in the orbit cutscene?
Just cos you fell doesn’t mean you can’t get back up
I always had a theory that the Trials for the spirits isn’t like it is for the Skids. In that, if they die in the Trials, then they die for real, so only the best can possibly make it through them. Unlike us, who just respawn. But if the King was a Skid, then he would have been able to get through them all without having to fear death, and thus he might have been like, the first time make it through all four. And since he was the first, it’s possible that there was some reward or prize for doing so and that was gaining control of all the powers he got and then gave to the Elders.
i think you’re right about the spirits and the trials. I think it’s also important to note that there are holes in the walls of the earth trial, and that during the spirits time, they probably would have had to face more challenges
Or maybe one of the spirits carved those holes because they were too scared to go the normal way… 
Ok no one wanted me to elaborate on my theory but imma do so anyway.
So as the power diamond in Eden need the most amount of light to get it working, no manta or other light creature could suffice. So the King in order to give their kingdom prosperity sacrificed their light to the diamond to power it slowly becoming corrupted . When the diamond exploded or imploded the light that was scarified spread out all over the kingdom forming WL. Which means as we collect WL we’re slowly regaining the image of the king
I can’t believe I never thought of spirits doing the trials…
spirits have to do the entire trials with respawning or they die/something bad happens to them
I did want you to elaborate, I just didn't think you needed an invite to do so. Say it anyway, make it our problem by force
THIS IS MY FAV THEORY ABOUT THIS NOW
Oh! I usually just ask before saying stuff cause that’s what I do irl. Too cause less annoyance sorry for the miscommunication! 
spirits in the trials.. most likely the prophets’ students, who definitely didn’t make it out alive
I like that! And it would fit with the lore of how the King isn’t there anymore, as the devs said. Unlike the other Elders, he’s literally in pieces and doesn’t exist.
Oh noooooo I have to go now… class is gonna start soon TT. Goodbye for now guys! Thanks for answering my questions this has been fun!
This is lore chat, shout into the void, and mayhaps we will cling to this new theory (unless we're deep deep in the current one)
Or writing fanfics.
I have my own ideas about winged light but I really like your idea that the king sacrificed their own light for the Eden diamond, corrupting it in the process. Perhaps that’s why they are “not around to be saved.” Light that goes into power diamonds are used up and irretrievable
Rather than the idea that we are the king, I like the idea of the king being apart of us. Like, the king has connections to the winged light/the glowing child at the end of Eden, and by accepting them, we accept the king into us, to help us. I was trying to explain that days ago but didn't have the words at the time.
It also works with the little hc of that the isle elder recognizes us as at the the time we meet him as moths we already have a couple WL to our name, and the isle elder has the most memories of the King so they would be able to recognize what basically was his child. In a way
And it works with my headcanon that the King used to look like a Winged at times, literally just a glowing child.
The King (2022)
Yes.
SIMILAR HCS ALL AROUND YOOOOOO
my fave funny prince hc is that they did staright up look kinda like a wl like u said
walking car battery
my favorite is that they were normal skykid height and never got taller. I don’t know, it’s just really funny to me
MECH SUIT HC MY BELOVED ITS SO SILLY, BIG SUIT BC THEYRE SMALL
all the events of Sky can be explained by the king being a chibi
The other day, while doing daylies I visited the first TS I was able to unlock during my moth days
Only now I realized the Ultimate Gift from SoDreams looks quite alot like their Vault curved headress
Could it be there is a little connection ? 
I think it’s just a coincidence that the feathers imitate that shape, could be wrong though
The headdress is a phoenix, a symbol of rebirth. Vault is the 'old age/about to kick the bucket soon' realm (in concepts at least). There is the start of something for that I'm sure
I have a head canon ( more of a hypothesis) the the elders are helping the skykids in other ways that they could not do themselves.
Some of these analyses may be vague, or subjective (as in not literal). Though it is connected to the message I believe each realm and thier elders impart to the skykids.
For dawn, it would be the boats. As a ferry man, I imagine him to charter paths for boats to sail true to their headings. As the elder that granted the elder a means to travel in the skies and set off on their journey to a place where the land meets the sky.
Day would be the butterflies and the jars. A vessel that hold something that the Megabird represents, Light and Life. Even if the butterflies themselves might not be able to give sustenance to ancestors, they do however provide skykids a boost to help reach places where they would not be able to on their own.
Forest would be the power diamonds, batteries of light that power the boats, the gates, that raised entire cities and bridge gaps for skykids along the way. Even if they can fly, the technology is there to make the journey easier.
Valley would be the relationship between culture and competition. The balance that the ancestors maintained to not forget where they came from and allow for them to develop their identity. A skykid's personal identity may not be important in the grand scheme of things, but it is vital to the skykid as each one can develop their own unique traits. Where one skykid would fall, another may rise to occasion and help clear a path for others to overcome.
Wasteland is the bravery of skykids to protect their Light from Darkness. The flame that keeps them alive, maintains the passion they carry and will to carry on no matter what.
Vault is knowledge. While the most dream like realm, it recalls on what the other realms have established. Reminding the skykid of what they learned and what they must face.
While Eden may have a message of rebirth, it brings the journey into a full circle.
Interesting how the first 3 help with physical powers (a vessel, a boost and clearing a path) while the latter help the sky kid grow some abilities of their own (an identity, building up resilience and knowledge), in your theory.
You begin life by learning how to crawl, walk, talk. Practical things. Then you begin teaching kids identity, morals, and others things.
Like you see that divide in home as well, though one could say it's to make things more or less symmetrical with the return shrine in the middle...
Doesn’t dawn guide a river of birds for us to show the path we need to take to Eden through the realms? They are helping us even literally in the game
Agreed.
Skykids are hybrid in more than one way. Light and Dark. Spirit and creature. Life and Death. Possibly, even a bit meta with being an Avatar and the Player's expression.
A skykid on their own would be a blank canvas, though with time, they develop a personality. This personality is shown in their identity that the player projects through their skykids. The game helps showcase this with cosmetics and emotes.
Which shows when they are filled with light, and would fall away when near death.
A river of birds... poetic /gen
I might be reaching here but whenever we see birds in sky, what direction are they going? bc off the top of my head, there r rivers of birds flying towards the forest temple in the boneyard
the river of birds go to most of the Elder temples iirc, but they lead to Eden and the point of no return.
I believe the birds are slowly heading towards Eden. And before you ask why we don’t see any in Wasteland, I imagine they travel above the clouds that the Wasteland is below.
I went to Eden and noticed that not only did my kid lose her cosmetics in the void, she lost her voice. I changed between them to check, she was still with default until she got to the golden child. They truly lose everything. (Except height apparently)
NO I THOUGHT ABT THAT TOO THEY ALL GO TOWARD TEMPLES AND EDEN
game design wise it's to guide us
BUT LORE WISE
WE ARE USING MIGRATION PATHS
So another link or better say coincidence is that phoneix is the dying birds who can return to live as you said, but the last comment ( by Raider ) made me think another coincidence
Vault is not just the real of "old age" but also of dreamlike realm , and (maybe ) the realm of the power to make a dream solid (through mayne the power of purple, Mind/Imagination) and Skater Girl was able to make her dream come true ( but only by her through her own skills and effort)
And that's it, these are the only coincindence I can think out of the blue about Dreams and the Dreamlike Realm 
there are some light trails between graveyard and battlefield, though they are not birds
SO WAIT r the birds calling to the Light too. Can they make little bird noises and feel the pull towards eden, just like us? omg
In Eden, first red zone, you can see birds going in a pipe oob
I HEADCANON THAT YEA
That's why we mimic light creatures
I think there is a concept of creatures going to orbit just as we do. They go to orbit and 'grow' into the next stage of their life sometimes (mantas can become whales I think), while an unnatural death left bones
Yeah, thats some subtle and neat learning curve the devs masterfully put on out road 
Bravo to all of them

TGC has a habit of nailing the little details, from what I've seen
That is a special gift. The mark of an artist.
TGC may be a small company, but they have the process refined to a Tee when if comes to invoking emotions in a game. To tell a story without words. To allow people to share in the experience that either leaves a strong impression, or at the least something to ponder about for some time after the game has ended.
And when they do it with words it’s even better, like with Little Prince. 
true.
Though am glad they have done so in a way that does not feel intrusive.
Words have power, and having some every now and again would help a lot.
For example, names of creatures.
Yeah, by using words sparingly they give a lot of punch when they are used. But if they used words now, outside of little prince, lore chat would be beside themselves going 'None of the spirits ever actually talked to the kids before'
A picture may have a 1000 words. But in Sky, 1 word would answer a 1000 questions.
And we change the shiny boy height too, try a chibi spell while near it 
Alas, I always go chibi for Eden anyway. I guess I could use shrink, but last time I forgot to sing in orbit despite planning to. This is gonna take me weeks.
True.
The light kid would match the skykid's dark half, no matter what.
Wait! Has it ended and am I trapped in an endless loop for 1+ year? /JK
For example names of th golden "containers" 
Containers?
Or spark 1000 more. Case of evidence "Resources" 
Hold on
🔹 = Power Diamond, Battery, Dark Crystal, Resources, Blue ores. Or any variation of the words.
How would you call this golden things we see around Realms like GW Foredt and Sanctuary?
#lore-discussion-spoilers message
Pictures taken from a Old Beta video of Forest Elder cutscene,directly putting a Prism (alternative name for Power Diamonds) inside the Golden thing in the center of the ceiling Huge Golden "Dynamo"
shoutout to tgc's patch notes for referring to carry spirits as "carryball" quests and wing buffs as "birth buffs"
And Winged Light as stars, or shiny bois. XD
Where?
peep the patch notes
I mean, I see why carryball (in Old Beta those flames we carry look like balls with a sortof cape) 
Visible in the same YT video I took screenshot from
speaking of carrying orbs, anyone have an idea of what pouting porter is carrying here?
a beach ball that has a messed up texture.
This texture has plagued other items the spirits use too.
heaviest beach ball in existence
Beach balls in that time were made of solid stone. 
Birth Buffs! 
That would have been usefull to know the first months as a moth. I used to spend ACs on spirits from Home (and the cheapest too to get as many as possible real quick), while if I did before Rebirth I could have colled those birth buff immediatly
You... suddenly pull out something so simple to spot... yet I never seen that!

I barely use this pEyes anymore .. bravo 
And then they dropped it and start cursing for 4 long honks.... the most cursed bad word in the world of Sky 
Deep cals, to be clear 
stealing these images from a friend, but @ pouting porter have you tried rolling the orb
fun fact. In Light Awaits, the pouty porter's memory used to be about them trying to either lift a boat that would not work, or load a heavy vase and not being able to do it.
That would explain the surprising number of deep honks I heard when I did the fire trial.
I once trying to screenshots all TS when they could come jist for a limited time... I should start reliving spirits carefull, thanks 
the base game spirits are lovely, some of them have more to work with than others for sure but theyre all fun (courageous soldier deserves a better memory than just walking). I've been meaning to look at hide'n'seeks memories, but haven't gotten around to it yet. idk if they have lore but they have a story
mostly them chasing around a bald spirit, relived them recently with a moth
wooo let's go
hide'n'seek pioneer proven worthy of the chibi mask by terrorizing tall people
Rumor has it they’re also skilled at hiding in walls.
cryptid
:O
So as to not cause another scene, I’ll try to keep this short.
Apologies for the scene and drama I caused more than 12 hours ago. I definitely was not in the right headspace and should not have acted that way. It was late, which means emotions are heightened, and thoughts are just, bleh. I’ll restrain from being on discord when its pate as much as possible, and I’ll work on not taking everything so personally for the future. There were some things that I don’t think I took out of proportion, but again I’m not here to begin a civil war…… again. So I won’t mention what went on with those.
I will work on explaining my ADHD ridden thoughts better, but I do ask for you to ask questions or inform me when something doesn’t make sense to you, because when I’m not too tired or emotional I’m very willing to help out.
And speaking of organized thoughts, I’m going to revise the posts I made before……. the incident I caused…… and repost the theories here.
Ok, thats all I wanted to say about that. Now lets all relax and look at the massive red bud in my front yard.
Heads up, this wasn't forced or made to trick people or anything of the sorts. I genuinely felt like I should take responsibility for my actions. I know there was a problem with not understanding my intentions, I understand why that mishap happened............staring into the void of eternal regret and cringe
Huh?-
Oh yeah.
I just wanted to make my intentions clear with this so that it doesn't cause drama too.
Hi everyone, today i FINALLY understood all the LORE... (kinda?) The prince, king and corrupted king. megabird, dark stones , timeline...MY BRAIN WENT
. I just didn´t uderstand what happened to the ppl in the Arc...I had the theory that some of them landed where season of abys takes place,,and started to look for stones there and built a land that went corrupted too
Welcome to the gang. 
we almost got a fishing minigame
Im new here...so...do you guys chat a lot here, or is it just like you post and replies come laaater ?? (:
I can imagine they deleted it because of the ungodly amount of glitches and bugs that might come with it.
i yelled hard enough abt missing the jester concept i will yell hard enough abt missing the fishing minigame concept if i have to
lightseekers 2, electric boogaloo
It gets pretty busy in here... But it's not as fast as general chat, I would say that we are quite active though... Personally I come on a tri-daily basis 
Omg YAY! I´m really excited learning the Lore. It gives me a new perspective on Sky. I feel lik ea moth because everything is new...but like an experienced moth?? it´s a great feeeling < 3
That's great!!! Feel free to ask any questions! Welcome to the lore fam hehe. Being new is such an exciting thing honestly I'd go back and do it all again if I could lol
Thank you!! I read many things today. and watched theory videos too. I had a theory about season of abyss, what do you think?? (:
Let's hear it! If u want to tell it ofc
So, I don´t know what happened to the ppl in arc, and that part isn´t too clear for me. I think some of them laned where abyss takes place. They started looking for the dark stones maybe to build a new town. In the mural drawings I found that the place used to be a mine. Maybe this place got corrupted too, so king krill started to attack. Also, What if krills actually are supposed to look like king kriill. King kriil lives DEEEEP in the ocean, so the storm didn´t reach it.....what do you think
That sounds good! But remember that the Abyss area is most likely flooded
So what I was trying to say with this mural was:
The ancestors held candles dearly, praising them as something along the lines of a religious artifact. They could have been symbolism of the stars, or of a living creatures life, though whether or not this theory of symbolism holds true is vague. But what I am certain about is that they were related to the stars and/or the light in some way, shape, and/or form.
Now why I don’t believe its the light seekers arriving into isle is because that isn’t a big enough event to be prophecised and given a mural, nor was it bug enough to impact history and thus be given a mural. Also, there seems to be a possible relation to candlemaker seeing the mural with their family, and them all then making candles, though thats just grabbing at loose strings.
Please tell me if anything doesn’t make sense and I’ll try to help after dinner.
Little Poutty Porter little topic from before
Of course they got mad , what would happen to you if you dropped your rainbow discoball 
Since it's beavy it could be granitic or a big chunk of lightcrystal
Why is the area flooded then?? Are there any theories ?? 😄
big fan of the gay orb porter has
It could just be a natural flood that the Golden Wasteland experienced.
Btw, wasnt here a 3rd golden "container" before the cutscene? I cannot be sure.. cause of how many times I speed run it in all this months
Where doez it come then the one it gets plugged inside the empty slot of the huge golden "dynamo" ? 
Yeah. There is a theory that the Wasteland used to be a big marsh area, so it would only take a little bit of flooding to submerge a huge area.
What happened while I was asleep 
I’m still a little emotional over the ench spirits having to abandon isle but wanting to preserve its culture do not mind me
isle emotions all the time all the time
The isle is an emotion
the
@white junco once said…YETI WAKES UP REALLY EARLY AND THE MOFFS ARE STILL SNEEPING 
Do you have the link to this stream? I can’t find it anywhere 😔
me neither i just got screenshots from a friend, wild
god dang, well could you send the screenshots if possible?
noooooooooooooooooooooo
Those cosmetics are pretty lit too ngl
Genuinely wondering, was there something that didn't make sense? Just tell me what it is and I can try to fix it./lh
yeaa :(
Those cosmetics are far too nice for TGC to pass up. I feel like they have to include them in a different season or event someday.
I think one of them made it into Assembly
Kind of
that cape thing
yeah
Kind of, though it feels as though it was more inspired by it instead of the cape being reused entirely.
hopefully
i got these if u like lightseeker concept art as much as i do
💙
💙
It's an interesting thought, especially since Tom Zhao makes a big emphasis on the fact that good shapes in the game are round and soft, and it hit me that candle wax is a literal ball. Made me think that they might have held the flame of a candle in high regard due to its circular shape, representing megabird
Lightseekers?
More like
Tealseekers
/j
OH YOU BET
Can I ask Baudshaw why it could have flooded? Where is the evidence for that? (genuinely asking out if curiosity, no animosity here)
I wonder if we're gonna see cosmetics like that in the animation
IF THEY PUT LIGHTSEEKERS IN THERE I WILL SCREAM /positive
YES IF THERES PROHACY I WILL WATCH, Lol I’m sooo hyped that I can’t spell properly
Here’s hoping we get new cosmetics for days with the animation. 
Season of The Animation let's go
maybe that's the collab /j
Bada ba ba ba.
I'd be fine with that tbh and laughing my head off
@wheat cypress Here’s what I think! I’m copying from Salem but I still think it’s good
Glowing clothing 
[sees empty isle and remembers switch trailer isle] [starts crying uncontrollably]
sniff
In the second, what I think are the concept versions of piggyback and pioneer look like siblings, which is super cute and now my new headcanon.
Also It’s hilarious how little doublefive changed between early concepts and in game. Someone designed them, looked at them, and correctly went “yeah this is peak character design” and never changed anything beyond that point
Note the diffeerence in water level between this mural and the treasure reef we see ingame. Also, Amander jumpscare
yes!! those manta chambers are MUCH deeper in the current version than in this mural... can't believe I didn't notice...
if that doesn't solidly prove it idk what will lol, that's sum solid butter
Oh my god wait. So after some spirit watching, the Lightseekers in general seem like they have minor teleportation abilities, right? Consider: twirling champion using them to cheat during races
How dare you accuse Twirling Champion of being dishonorable (I'm pretty sure the valley elders would have their head lmao)
Hmmmm
Or to make their figure skating performances uncannily good
And that's how they ded! :D
Yay we discovered another death~ We discovered another death~!!
They only became a lightseeker because they were banned from racing after everyone else found out
SLANDER. HE WOULD NEVER
I think Twirl's more for the grace than the speed. In that case, teleportation might NOT be illegal though it might dock a few points
twirl doesn't need to teleport, he can already jump absurdly high
That’s another lightseeker ability that they use to cheat. [it’s probably actually something everyone can do due to low gravity but Shhhhhhh]
it's not cheating twirl is very polite and a king. They are just very powerful
I feel like this is one of the only fandoms where calling someone a king is actually an insult
is it?
yes. I just declared it as one with my special mind powers
look at this twirl. look at their face. is that the face of a cheater
Okay you got me there… they look like they’re about to ask for a headpat
victory
I actually have no idea where this image is from, I found it in February deep in the files of the sky wiki, did twirl at some point show up in the valley temple?
I am still losing my mind over pioneer asking us for headpats
Don't spirit show up to meditate with you if it's the first time you live them?
base game spirits do, but I wouldn't know if the lightseekers meditated next to you during their season
That would be really cute.. imagine doing a meditate quest & you look over to see a gratitude spirit sitting next to you like :3
awwww
"I watch you meditate sometimes. And by sometimes, I mean often."
found the image source, I still have no idea what the context was but https://sky-children-of-the-light.fandom.com/wiki/Special:ListFiles?limit=50&user=Ilivetowrite&ilshowall=1&offset=20190708230634&sort=img_timestamp&asc=1&desc=
this also has beta images of all the base game spirits, fun to go through
we were robbed
There was once a forest green base game cape?
fsdaldghal wherweryewrywerh where is it now
Why are they yellow are they okay
ascended
rejecting voyager also had better hair, what happened (they removed the ponytail from this body type model, that's also why dismiss lost their hair)
Megabird ate their wigs for sustenance /j
another interesting fact! all the spirits with this body type had this mask + wasteland hair combo, even if they had their own unique hair
I write something dumb per usual and they just: 3:
hhhghghhghg
that looks lke
+ 
would be interesting ngl
that hairstyle is a disaster
looking very hard at fainting warriors old cosmetic tree|
mask icon silly
HAHAHA IT LOOKS UPSIDE DOWN
their mask just looks like Isle mask but upside-down
This is uncanny valley but Sky
Ok, let me explain this quickly.
So big Levi's than from the first abyss mural dies and becomes stone.
Ancestors make home on the dead creature.
Ancestors mine resources on the creature.
They accidentally mine too much and water from around the island floods in.
At least that's what I believe happened.
Its on the mines mural too.
Their mask is the tops of the isle and prairie mask fit together.
very important I found two more of these
sit
I guess this was the era when you had to take seasonals to the temple like everyone else
I wonder why they stopped doing that
well it seems like seasonal spirits don't ascend right away. why individually take them to the Elder temple to ascend if they're not gonna ascend right away?
DID SEASON SPIRIT USE TO BE BOUGHT TO THE ELDERS
i am normal about this i am normal about this
I THINK SO
I DONT HAVE IT IN WRITING BUT IT SURE LOOKS THAT WAY
they look so polite
i also found this, were spirits in different poses at first, and not just kneeling?
HUH
OHHHHHHH THATS SO COOL
here's another one! maybe they were all praying?
Also, it is just me, or is the light on their chests a lot brighter?
Not just you, I think older sky just had different lighting.
hello waving bellmaker (peep the manta symbol near the candles on the bell tower)
Ah, makes sense. I can see why they toned it down. That would get kinda distracting after a while.
spirits are just straight-up transparent
i am going to hug a spirit
The broken houses in birds nest used to show much bigger murals when you honked near them
hello discord user haunted biscuit. may I steal these pics for the mural doc I will credit u
EDIT: WOOHOO
hey vela
Not too hard now
what ? i am not affiliated with that spirit
yeah yeah! go ahead!
WOHOOO
They seemed much more “ghost like” in a way.
flight season thank you for questgiver hug
Flight guide, my beloved
Flight Guide deserves all the hugs and more.
I hug the flight guide every time I see them I can’t resist
Eden used to be very different, and even had blue and orange stones.
(Images taken from Tara's Sky Journey on youtube)
beta eden looks so cool... man I gotta watch those videos, that's so cool
Blue Eden was truly a beauty.
I like the gold rocks
current Eden is beautiful too in a morbid sort of way
I also agree with that. I have some weird comfort with eden, sometimes I just sit in the social space before you enter eden and just vibe by the fire. It has this weird comfort to me
I absolutely adore eden... part of it is because I went into eden 100% blind, I had no idea what was going on, so I got all the eden emotions all at once
apparently pre-launch wl was really short
King height (real)
hehe, king fragments
Dang. And less glowy as well.
I believe you can also see a bit of non-broken eden castle in this one
thought there wasn't wl in beta? unless this is early Live release not Beta: Light Awaits
this isn't beta light awaits, but it's pre live launch. these were posted june 2019, and global launch was july 2019. idk what else to call it
this game has too many betas
I think I'll just go with pre-launch, simpler that way (and agreed)
oh wait valley used to have one of those bird statues too??
BIRD LOCATED
L O C A L I Z E D
side note I think it's really really funny that the sky wiki's music guide just casually uses LA screenshots
oh btw!! Another bird! In blue wasteland temple, which I love so much it's sooo pretty
Oh my god the wasteland elder got replaced with a bird
bird was there first
bird revolution
woahwoahwoah double high five's spirit sprite goes to the Prairie Elder temple like base game spirits do. those pics of the Lightseekers sitting down at the Elder altars?
Why do the Lightseekers get temple privileges but no one else does. Hmph
maybe they worked for the Elders?
maybe... I've been thinking that they were gathered from across the realms to try and restore the fading light, so the elders very well could have chosen specific individuals
im gathering them in my arms now
them working for the elders is probably the truth, i just love the implication (of that explanation) that all the other spirits are banned from the temple due to not being important enough tho
Sanctuary spirits have to ascend on their own without going to the temple bc they didn’t work for the elders. Suck it jellyfish whisperer
why do u not like jellyfish whisperer
They’re the first sanc spirit I could think of
this is objectively the funniest screenshot you could take of backflipping champion
Megabird punted them from orbit and they are landing on their head
He put soap on his feet to spin faster
hmmm ok
Twirl has been to jail for cheating at least3 times. Everytime they get caught they assume a new identity and do it again
The valley ice rink that's after the slopes From the social space used to be so different. It had clouds all around the bottom with a little ice rink in the middle, as well as a canon. And it was perfectly in the shade, just right to not be too dark but not too much sun. I wish it was still here.
ignoring the twirl slander to go hey were spirit graves in the realm after their own at one point?
Spirits were all over the place to begin with, they didn't have the organization we see now probably for a while.
sorry i cant add much to the convo, i just love every spirit, can i get some milk for fainting warrior tho
they are dabbing
HELP I DIDNT EVEN REALIZE
I bet their head still hurts
THEY'RE TOO GOOD *falls over
** falls and dabs **
Dude accidentally dabbed as they died and now has to relive the memory constantly
BWHAHAH * cry’s *
New spirit fact: fainting warrior dabs unironically and regularly
AND GLUE ON HIS HANDS TO DO A HANDSTAND 
next gotta have a "dabbing [noun]" spirit
Dabbing warrior 
Dabbing doublefive light catcher
need
Shhhh the spirits might hear you
Doublefive light catcher has dad energy, but specifically the type of dad who would hear what dabbing and dab at their child to relate to them in public, embarrassing the child beyond belief.
Does that makes sense
they pronounce gif "jif" on purpose
but you can pronounce gif like "jif" tho
YES and they wear socks with ridiculous patterns on them under their sandals
HOLY CRAB HIS HEAD IS ALL THE WAY UP IN SPACE
ig i have ridiculous dad energy
father spotted
what about the image above?
serious question who is this? I've seen them in both LA screenshots and these pre-launch ones, is it vault elder?
I think it was a vault elder design yeah
sweet
reaction image
old eden wl location, what a stance
just chillin'
Just ate another child 🤗
OMG those cosmetics 🥺
So, uh, what did it for you that made you understand? Because I'm still kinda lost
The bird statues were actually used for constellations at the time.
oo!! what constellation is this?
Also, just
This isle
YES!!!
I WANT SKY LIGHT AWAITS BACK AND YOU CANNOT SHUT ME UP
Its isle, at this time I don't believe the spirits would come down or anything.
ISLE
BELOVED
omg the candles in the second image you sent... candles looking very similar to those appear in the sparkler labyrinth in valley thats so cool
TGC IM GONNA HONK MY NECK OFF
And how during seasons, one spirit from the season would be sat in a aviary with a little cozy set up.
AHHHHH!!!
I wish they'd bring this back.
AGHHHHH TGC PLEASE LIGHT AWAITS BACCCKKKK
Hold on a minute, I'm gonna try to find the old ice rink.
I literally cannot JUST share a picture or two because the whole thing is beautiful.
I highly suggest watching Tara's beta memories playlist, it really helps get you acquainted with light awaits.
different, yeah. but ugly?
I wouldn’t say it’s ugly. The old Isle was definitely something to behold, but the current one has its charm as well.
calling the isle ugly in lore chat = Top 10 Messages Sent Directly Before War Breaks Out
That’s a several people are typing moment.
Y'know, why didn't TGC just make players start in aviary and merge that all together, then they wouldn't have had to get rid of it. You see one reason for getting rid of aviary was to get players started sooner, and all that complicated stuff with having two hub areas. But why not just get rid of the solo hub area and add all the friendship shrine and stuff to one of the floors in the aviary?
I am holding back
I presume they didn’t want to make it too big.
hey what is this 😭
Weapons of mass destruction that may be utilized in this scenario:
- Disappointed reactions
- Strategic cheesing
- calling their favorite spirit British
I don't think they'd really have to, all the upper levels of aviary were completely barren.
JUMPSCARE
Behold the power of Lorechat…bringing headcanons to life.
I’ve actually made some of those. They’re pretty good.
legacy of the apple slices continues. they will outlive god
yes
Oh my, I think what atrocity you've just witnessed is proof of Lucifer's influence.
Fair enough. But it’s possible that more stuff would have been added in the future if they kept the upper levels.
Relevant image
Is that supposed to be Megabird with the ears acting as wings?
maybe
helloooo what r we talking about todayy???
Light awaits moping, and now apples apparently.
Hold on
Never a wrong time to talk about apples.
that tree looks so prettyyyy
Ash found the salt and pepper apples irl
Salt and pepper apples are like the evil version of minecraft golden apples. They give you damage when you eat them
I’m tempted to go try that
NO NOT ANOTHER VICTIM
I don’t think I have any apples though. I have grapes?
Still works!
restless you have your whole life ahead of u… pls don’t do this
can someone tell Esther it’s probably not a good idea to post pictures of their front yard with their neighbors license plates and addresses visible, I have them blocked so idk if they can see my messages
I’ll try it tomorrow, I already brushed my teeth for bed
I made a better one
I FORGOT ABOUT THOSE!!!!!!!
eerily similar to eden
The beginning is the end and the end is the beginning.
oh hi ash
being a tgc dev must be wild, imagine inspiring people to make poor culinary choices just because you wanted to be silly and goofy about the valley elders
Vela..? You good?
reacting to this
hint: summon Ash by posting a cursed image that's Sky related
on it
does British scarecrow count
Lightseekers steal the age from growing red bud trees to feed to their wisteria.
not even british prophecy guide was enough to summon ash
looks like Ash hasn't caught up to that convo yet
I don’t know what I can make that’s more cursed than British prophecy guide. Maybe crab whisperer putting cheese in coffee
oh this? This is all your fault 
(I’m kidding, but I’m actually so happy yet embarrassed that the first time you respond to me is from my photo of a salt and pepper apple slice HAH💀 )
Has Ash eaten a salt and pepper apple slice, or did they think it was just an unholy abomination no one would try for the lulz 
at least it wasn’t the fanfiction, bitbit
WHAT fanfiction 😭
ash, absolutely do not look at this
Ah yes, Sold to Valley Eldars. A true masterpiece- -spits out soda- Vela I love u
ash do not look challenge
Salem made the text
I might just try to draw this so that it'll be cursed.
I know, I stopped mid praise because of Vela's art
No, anything but that! 
The sacred texts!
IM LOSING MY MIND
NO GOD PLEASE NO!!
And when you think about how the valley elders have some authority and power over the people.......
We’ve reached that section of Vault, it seems.
You can not deny the sacred texts

Dreams skater 100% writes fanfiction about the valley elders and the rhythm spirits
OHMYGOD BHAHA
My favorite part is how Lamed is visibly sweating in the first panel. They know what the moth will find out there. 
Hyperventilating.
Then there are like those really good fan fictions and after your done you just have to sit there and melt
Or moths are harder to teach reading than they thought
I was right, you were gona draw buff actor ahshahaha
ash, definitely look at this
-> Opens lorechat
-> Sees buff actor
-> Leaves
AS YOU SHOULD
Get back here and accept Vela's feast they so kindly provided to us
I need an emoji for laughing harder than the laughing emote
set the room on fire
I wonder how many poor souls were just this after entering Lorechat.
wait is that what that emote is for? I thought it was for chaos
Well the in-game version is called "Cackle" so...
Ash really backread like a days worth of lore chat at least to find that pic btw. Ash is gonna see Vela's work lol
OH THE CACKLING CANNONEER I WAS TALKING ABOUT DISCORD EMOJIS
edit: girl help I think I'm a little behind here
cackle emote when
It's this one
especially if you combine it with laugh
I am definitely cackling like the Cannoneer right now
i dont fear ash, i bet they look up shrimp memes
I imagine every second spent here is worth it for a laugh.
We have to make Ash fear us. We must come up with something so crazy they convince the other devs to delete lore chat /j
tbf i dont want them to fear us either because just them saying hi is enough to send the lore chat into chaos and it's really funny to backread
…I probably already came up with something.
sudden ash jumpscare is sudden
I gotta use tone indicators more, but I'm not used to it
credit: Vela
oh jesus that one is old

shsush crabbot
I am still wasting away waiting for my elder/questgiver zodiacs 
prophecy guide is a gemini and drives a honda civic
I only have two things saved by Vela, and only one is a joke- Are the mods about to come in here and shut us down?
Stupid sky bot
And now scarecrow's zodiac too is missing from myHONDACVIC????
If they shut us down for this then I’d be very surprised.
would you like it
they shut down gender economy and bears
HELP
They're back oh no
