lore-discussion-spoilers

[compact shale]

i have no experience being a guy but that's definitely what it looks like for me

[uncut pond]

I personally think long hair is actually very androgynous, there's a lot of men who have long hair and they still look masculine mainly rock and metal musicians lol

[tranquil harbor]

I'm pretty sure Alasdair might fight u over the afro comment

[rigid mural]

it's free

[compact shale]

Afros are glorious

They are to be admired

just like chickens

[rigid mural]

not what i meant

[tranquil harbor]

Though, afros are also very eye catching. So I can see why someone wouldn't want one if they want a more subdued look

[formal skiff]

The sneaky hair is long and masc

[tranquil harbor]

sneaky hair is actually kinda androgynous on the spirit

[carmine garnet]

Ok, I’m going to do some doodles later for the fan season about the kingdom. Feel free to throw out ideas and which area./spirit that you would like to see them on.

[keen shore]

Trying to be androgynous when you’re non-binary is unreasonably difficult and people often don’t realize just how hard it is. Sometimes the stereotypical enby look even includes body shapes, especially height, and even if you manage to fulfill all those requirements, someone’s weird idea of gender will interfere anyways. Someone tried to gender my style of handwriting the other day. Being perfectly androgynous is almost impossible. It’s just not worth it, especially when you can give up and just wear skirts instead

[tranquil harbor]

can you give examples of what you want? Like I said, I don't see a lot of variety in dude hair, so I dunno what to look for

[formal skiff]

Yeah I agree completely and find it pretty androgynous overall, I was just pointing it out as a hairstyle that could be read as masculine but is long /lh

[tranquil harbor]

The what? I hope that's not beta spoilers, you're gonna get in trouble

[proud pulsar]

[formal skiff]

EXACTLY
Also dang, combining suit elements with skirts is SO pretty and gender. I wore a silk wrap skirt with a button-down, jacket, and tie today and AAAAAH GENDER

But yeah for a while I was like “aaa no skirt- skirt too fem-“ and then I was like “but… but skirt…..” and now I wear pretty skirts again

[tranquil harbor]

Speaking of, I want to put my sky kid in a tuxedo or something now

[compact shale]

guys please send me nb fashion

I have an NB oc and I have no idea what they should wear

[rigid mural]

teth

[keen shore]

I can’t really have an in depth discussion on gendered cosmetics because

1. I just don’t care enough about them
2. I am agender and have a very weird perception of gender to most (as in. I usually just forget it exists entirely)

[tranquil harbor]

Fair enough

[compact shale]

Salem doesn't give a honk?

[white junco]

sky appeals to my nonbinary fantasy of wearing capes everywhere

[rigid mural]

cosmetics dont have gender, hair is hair
i got called a handsome boy in gw social area tho

[proud pulsar]

I mean I don't think there's really nb fashion saying this as nb/genderfluid. Your OC can just not give a honk

[keen shore]

As an enby usually I wear either casual clothes like t shirt and jeans and pleated skirts. something about pleated skirts man… so cool

[rigid mural]

i think nonbinary people are entitled to a suit of armor, THAT would be gender

[compact shale]

Well I really want inspiration because I'm not NB and while their gender isn't the focus I want to depict them well

[formal skiff]

Yeah same, though I’m not agender, I just don’t feel like trying to put a particular name to my gender since I know it’s not male or female and that’s good enough for me

[tranquil harbor]

Yeah, in theory clothes are clothes and you can wear anything. But to say certain clothes don't have a certain 'feel' is just untrue. I want 'pretty' and 'beautiful' clothes. Which are also considered 'feminine' a lot

[keen shore]

In all honesty though, nb fashion is just… whatever. Sticking more labels and constrictions on what we can and can’t wear is kind of going against the spirit of what being non-binary is so go wild and have fun!

[green pine]

sorry to burst in, but it might be best to move over to #cozy-sky-discussion, since things have drifted a long way from lore here

[compact shale]

At least you know you can't make us go to genchat

[tranquil harbor]

okay we're done. We had a point to this originally

[slate saffron]

Clothes are clothes and as a society we should move towards tactical battlgear because the enemy is at the gaTE ARM THE CANNONS OR WE'RE ALL GONNA-

[keen shore]

Gender is over. Science time

[green pine]

it's a chaotic mess in there rn anyway

[formal skiff]

Literally anything
Personally I like flannels and casual pants, or the classic button-down & skirt combo

[compact shale]

Does Sky have any near-death experiences in it?

[tranquil harbor]

no but we have actual death experiences

[proud pulsar]

wasteland as a moth

[rigid mural]

lore chat pspspspspssps

[compact shale]

vela got out the woowoo dyes

[tranquil harbor]

You're not being dumb, your desires are reasonable.

[green pine]

yes, the last quest in the season of abyss, right when the dark whale swallows you and the angler

[keen shore]

what is everyone’s thoughts on this mural ?

weird things I IMMEDATELY noticed:

• there are spirits with some of the lights and crowds? with the other two.
• king is already there and glowing. maybe some version of coronation ceremony
• there’s two spirits with the cyan light, which was given to the valley twins. I don’t know if this is relevant or not but it is… hmm, ….

[slate saffron]

OFFERINGS TO THE KING OUR LORD AND SAVIOR AND BLINDING LIGHT

[harsh pecan]

YES

[tranquil harbor]

I knew they'd get mad

[compact shale]

Yeah that's what I thought too

Your're in a place that looks like limbo but if you still have light left it isnt' taken away

@frigid tinsel put Jam where you were originally going to put Commodore if the 5th quest was borign

[keen shore]

pickle time <3

[carmine garnet]

Ok. Back to lore. So sky children act like children, do you think the spirits every got together to raise them,? Or do they just let vet players raise the baby moffs?

[rigid mural]

jesus christ why did you edit the good male rhetoric in

[regal forge]

Maybe the rise of the elders?

[harsh pecan]

probs the vets

[compact shale]

I think there are spirits who would adopt us if our purpose wasn't to ascend them

[formal skiff]

In my little hc, my oc was raised by some spirits (butterfly and sneaky) but idk how possible that is within the canon

[frigid tinsel]

There are 5 black hairstyles in this game, just cos you your finding a dearth of hair that fits your fashion doesn’t mean you can throw the rest of us struggling for rep too under the bus @tulip aspen

[tranquil harbor]

In my theory that the spirits continue to 'live' their unlives after ascension, sky kids are randomly adopted into spirits families. It's not usually on purpose, but rather happens over time

[rigid mural]

im very bothered by you guys essentially going "fight fight fight" over that issue

[slate saffron]

It's like lord of the flies except no one can become a significant and sad pile of dust :)

[compact shale]

so there's a dead pig?

[tranquil harbor]

I wasn't! That was a panic italics!

Alasdair please calm down, Jam didn't mean it like that

[rigid mural]

jesus christ, jam is in the wrong there

[slate saffron]

What do you think the elders are?

[compact shale]

THEY'RE ALL DEAD PIGS?!

[harsh pecan]

oh my god

[carmine garnet]

So ether kids raise themselves (aka gets supervise) or spirits or elders try to look after them? Got it.

[tranquil harbor]

No one said what Jam said was okay, but we can't have a drag out brawl in lore chat

[fickle wing]

some of yall rlly out here huh

[green pine]

This is concept design details so take it with a grain of salt, but due to this and how the dawn elder acts in-game, a good chunk of it is likely meant to come from him helping out the skids, at least in their early stages

other than that, it's just learning from each other and various spirits kinda haphazardly

[harsh pecan]

i agree

[latent jackal]

oh cool lore chat

[compact shale]

What would wooly manta's floof look like if you could comb it and straighten it out?

[slate saffron]

Lore chat is such a nice place to be
I love lore chat so very much
I am not at all concerned

[green pine]

Yes, let's try to keep it that way, please.

[tranquil harbor]

forest elder's hair? Or the emo hair?

[proud pulsar]

you would break all your brushes before that

[carmine garnet]

I feel like forest and the valley elders would be the least likely to take care of the sky kids. Forest because their always making stuff (and the kids set things of fire) and the valley twin are constantly trying to out do each other not caring for the ones under their care

[tranquil harbor]

The Valley Elders have a few hints to a more dangerous/sinister side, and yet they're polite and playful to the sky kids. I think the kids might find them some of the easiest to approach.

Forest Elder gives off the vibe of a gruff, but ultimately caring person though.

[compact shale]

Easy to approach... as soon as the valley elders stop beating themselves/each other up

[green pine]

Good ol' forest mom

[formal skiff]

Frizzy chaos

[harsh pecan]

lol yea

[compact shale]

I was trying to comb it

[tranquil harbor]

Like, during the orbit cutscene Forest Elder seems a lot kinder. Probably because she's happy with us, vs impatient because the door is broken

[proud pulsar]

the valley elders would probably be helping out chaotic skykids

[carmine garnet]

The isle elder would be babysitting the elders babysitting the sky kids

[frigid tinsel]

don't defend him. btw this isn't the first time jam has said this sort of crap and he only retreads his words when called out on it to save face. I'm not only sick of his nonsense but of the blokes in Sky community's frequent depreciation of people of color like myself. I'm sick and tired of it. don't defend him

[slate saffron]

I like to think of the Prarie elder being that cool uncle who visits you every so often

[compact shale]

wait

WHAT

[harsh pecan]

wait really?

[rigid mural]

seconded, not the first time i saw jam pull this

[proud pulsar]

maybe we should bring this up to the mods or something instead of escalating the situation in the lore chat?

[fickle wing]

pspsp mods

[tranquil harbor]

Everyone characterizes the Valley Elders as chaotic young idiots who can't stop fighting, but the Valley is an incredibly prosperous place. Like, there is more to the Valley Elders than first impressions imply.

Okay, I'm pretty new here, so I was not aware.

[formal skiff]

Ah dang well that majorly sucks. I wasn’t aware it was a repeated thing since I’m new here and don’t backread.

[slate saffron]

Silence baudshaw

[harsh pecan]

theyre secretly smart

[green pine]

This isn't the place to bash people over it. Please use #contact-the-mods if you think someone is causing issues, don't keep adding fuel to the fire. It's lore time, not pointing-fingers time.

[compact shale]

...when they're not beating each other up

[fickle wing]

don’t call issues like this drama

[sharp lichen]

The big question is, which Elder fits into the "sassy gay uncle" archetype?

[stable veldt]

Good morning lore- oh

[carmine garnet]

Like I imagine all the elders are caring for young moths, but the moths are also chaotic themselves so keep that in mind

[tranquil harbor]

None of them.

[compact shale]

Alasdair please dm me about this because I have no idea what this is about

[harsh pecan]

me too please

[stable veldt]

Any chance that somewhere down the line valley people sell twin elder merch?

[tranquil harbor]

Why don't we all just calm down and let the mods figure it out.

I wouldn't be surprised if something about the elders were 'sold' in all areas of the kingdom. If they're the leaders and/or considered lucky/holy in some way

[compact shale]

fake cricket paddles hmmmmm

[fickle wing]

valley elders would throw moths like footballs and the lil dudes would have no issue w it skykids crash face first into walls all the time

[stable veldt]

Now I require fake cricket paddle as a skid cosmetic

[green pine]

As long as the skid has some cape charge, don't wanna lose those stars

[compact shale]

I imagine there are action figures of the elders kinda

Forest Elder In Action! Now With Articulated Hair!

[tranquil harbor]

I really want a Valley Elder paddle as a prop. Maybe it could work like the fire work staff and have infinite casts of the 'ball' spell (even possibly a special skin for it), since there is a ball in the constellation.

[proud pulsar]

"recharge, go, go, go! ready? BONK"

[fickle wing]

this would b an entirely different story if bonk damage still existed the valley tunnel to the rink was full on Lethal

[carmine garnet]

Maybe in the past we might see a sport their paddles were use for?

[tranquil harbor]

I remember watching a youtube video of someone doing a capeless run and they mentioned that the tunnel would kill them

[fickle wing]

i lost wl there im p sure </3

[green pine]

btw fun fact, it's possible to bonk yourself hard enough while low on charge in the post-eden flight section to the point where a star gets knocked out. I don't remember exactly what happened as a result or if it is even still possible since it was a few years ago by now, but it was possible at some point as a game oversight

[tranquil harbor]

Your kid is such a walking hazard even cheating death can't stop them from losing light

[compact shale]

we're a walking fire hazard for sure

[green pine]

we're a flying everything hazard

[keen shore]

Hey, this is a really stupid request, sorry - but in the future can we keep uhh… bickering? drama? Whatever you want to call it - in DMs. Am calming down from an anxiety attack at the moment, I don’t know why it gets me so badly, but for whatever reason it does. Sorry <3

Edit: wanted to add that I’m not attempting to minimize the situation, just not sure what to call it

I’m going to be gone for a bit too. I just need to calm down

[tranquil harbor]

The request isn't stupid but I don't think it's uh... easy(might be wrong word) to do. Like, the bickering happens suddenly because someone got angry, and when you're mad, you're probably not thinking straight enough to move to DMs

[compact shale]

You guys the mods are coming

[rigid mural]

good

[white junco]

please

[formal skiff]

You don’t need to apologize, I know anxiety is a strange beast and arguments can be stressful

[sick obsidian]

Time to circle back around to lore discussion please. If you feel like things are straying off topic, or becoming upsetting the best course of action is to report it in #contact-the-mods and to not join in the conversation. If you yourself are feeling heated then taking a step away and having a breather can be nice. The server will still be here when you get back

[fickle wing]

my theory is that the king is really gay and likes kissing men

[rigid mural]

pop off my liege

[fickle wing]

dude is a FLAMING homosexual like 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈

[tranquil harbor]

So how is gravity theory doing?

[white junco]

krii how does it feel to have that many braincells

[formal skiff]

My theory is that… it’s past my bedtime and I require sneep snorp

[fickle wing]

also forest elder is p fruity too like im just saying man you have the rainbow there and a forest full of mostly feminine presenting spirits that’s the lesbian zone right there

[formal skiff]

Ok I promise I’m going to sleep but who remembers this artwork (credited to Slink)

[keen shore]

This is true, it’s probably impractical - I’m just exhausted mentally at this point. I don’t know how to explain it, it’s like one day this chat is normal, the next some kind of conflict happens, and then I get the inescapable feeling of dread - more than the usual - coming back to it, wondering if something will happen again at any time. Might need to leave for a bit, I don’t know why it gets me so badly

[native shoal]

I like how vault elder is the only one who has closed eyes

[tranquil harbor]

Hey, that's totally okay. Anxiety is just like that, and it's not your fault. You do what you gotta do.

[white junco]

gonna go get myself lost in the gay woods

[sharp lichen]

We will not talk about gravity theory!

[slate saffron]

My theory is that the elders and spirits hatch from eggs

[tranquil harbor]

So you gave up?

[native shoal]

My theory is that they just spawned in the area where their temple would be

[formal skiff]

Take your time, and yeah I get being scared of what a space may look like when you come back to it. If you need me for hugs or something I’m here.

[tranquil harbor]

The eggs in the forest tree are Forest Mama's kids huh?

[slate saffron]

👁️ 👄 👁️

[rigid mural]

i was born there
forest roads, take me home

[compact shale]

More like Elder Telenovela chat

[tranquil harbor]

What are the forest tree eggs though. Like, are they real eggs or legit fake eggs

[rigid mural]

they're vela eggs !

[tranquil harbor]

I could stand to have more of you, you're certainly a peach

[sharp lichen]

We concluded that it’s quite lower than the gravity of Earth, and that’s it. And the most annoying part is: if I hadn’t pinged someone who actually knew about gravity, I could have called it a success! /hj

[fickle wing]

im looking at like half the elders n just going

[tranquil harbor]

Ruined by your own hubris, just like the ancestors. Legokidlogan has some cool stuff though, I'm glad u called them in

[white junco]

only half?

[rigid mural]

spiky hair valley elder is transmasc

[stable veldt]

Alright lorechat, I'm compiling the findings yesterday about general sky-ence. What are the things i should include in there?

[fickle wing]

i cast spell of transgender

[tranquil harbor]

I see all the Elders as not being male or female, and any presentation on the side of 'gender' is merely self expression.

[fickle wing]

you can straight up pry the hc that isle is trans out of my cold dead hands id kill for older trans folks rep it’s barely there

[sharp lichen]

Gravity calculations, height,potential mass of Skykids, falling speeds, and generally make it a bit open

[undone trench]

Is the gravity calculations finally done ?

[tranquil harbor]

Gravity Calculations died a fiery death

[fickle wing]

honestly a gender investment

[rigid mural]

that fanart of daleth being moral support to doing T for the first time

[stable veldt]

we stopped for a moment, but we generally agree we cant calculate irl stuff with magic

[compact shale]

is that a hug or a glitch

[tranquil harbor]

I want it, please tell me you know where it is

[fickle wing]

YEAHH
THAT ART IS SO SWAG love to see it

[sharp lichen]

I finally made a calculation: about 1/987 of Earth’s gravity. I thanked legokidlogan, the person who made the height calculations of Skykids (which are needed to find the gravity) and pinged him. Lego then came out of his months long hiatus to absolutely rip my theory to shreds

[compact shale]

NINE HUNDRED EIGHTY SEVEN?!

[fickle wing]

yknow how teth was a funky lynx cat thing n all that in the concepts
this is what they took for hrt

[tranquil harbor]

It was hilarious. (And I mean that in a completely loving, teasing way)

[sharp lichen]

It was 0.001 meters per second for gravity at the very highest

[compact shale]

that's a high low number

[undone trench]

Wait so does that mean if a normal human walked there they would float or get stuck to the ground?

[stable veldt]

This is why elders are really tall + they can lift rocks

[tranquil harbor]

Float

[compact shale]

why would they be stuck to the ground?

[sharp lichen]

They would float

[tranquil harbor]

Yui couldn't tell if that's a lot of gravity compared to earth or not (I had the same problem)

[stable veldt]

This would also imply they're really really heavy in general to make sure they keep their footing on the ground actually. The theory that everything was made out of stone (including ancestors made out of clay) might be a really viable theory

[compact shale]

imagining humans stuck to the ground sonds like a glitch

[undone trench]

They never told me I had to know how to count to learn the lore,

[tranquil harbor]

We normally don't, but Baudshaw is Baudshaw /lh

[stable veldt]

I'm here to help baudshaw

[compact shale]

I am watching from your walls

[green pine]

They're straight-up easter eggs, literally and metaphorically as confirmed by the devs when asked by it, so they're likely fake

[tranquil harbor]

Wait we have a canon thing? Amazing

[green pine]

only because they don't significantly impact the lore/canon/story lmao

[stable veldt]

It was a leftover form Sky LA's quest to visit eagle's nest if i remember correctly, now it's just a literal easter egg

[compact shale]

THERE USED TO BE EAGLES IN SKY-

okay lol jk

[tranquil harbor]

Is rhythm bird not an eagle?

[green pine]

Alright, if people are talking about gravity again, I may as well kick into high gear and take some measurements myself

[compact shale]

I'm no bird expert so idk hsapossdhgadsghasdg

[sharp lichen]

You were the one who started it /lh

[undone trench]

I got one question, what's " ih " ? Or " lh "

[rigid mural]

light hearted !

[tranquil harbor]

Don't blame me for this! I was gushing about chibi wasteland elder!

[sharp lichen]

Tone indicators are necessary for a person like me, because 90% of the things I say are not serious, joking, or sarcastic

[hushed steeple]

I see iirc and think “eerk!”

[rigid mural]

light awaits screenshot

[sharp lichen]

I am horrified by so many things with that

[rigid mural]

lightning strike hehe

[sharp lichen]

Why is it bleached

[native shoal]

Someone went to scrub it but added too much bleach

It got rid of the darkness plants but it got rid of everything else too

[compact shale]

it got rid of the sanity

[stable veldt]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VIAIznSVPqos8CliC0AO4l7Zj4XOuwFLoyIpVYITTgA/edit?usp=sharing

Making the barebones of the science doc, i will need a lot of feedback regarding this doc from now on

[rigid mural]

take this
https://youtu.be/2RnrgFhtD4w

eden's storm used to be way more violent on that last part

[sharp lichen]

Wait: is it just me, or does the general layout of Eden look different?

[rigid mural]

it does ! the pipe with the crabs in it ? had a working darkstone interruptor to open a gate above

[sharp lichen]

And from that video, there’s no first section at all: Eden was much shorter

[rigid mural]

yeah first section was added later; also i really like the cyan stormlock, the abundance of "gift statues" makes me think of a place where ancestors could have put offering before ascending maybe

[raw crypt]

TEAL EDEN MY BELOVED

[rigid mural]

honestly teal eden looks way more mystical, i love it

they had a whole building around taht beam

that wording

btw the elder statues that you see at the end ? they become the elders themselves
maybe completing a constellation is like completing the memories of a spirit, except those of an elder span their entire realm

[raw crypt]

I like teal eden a lot, its more in line with that one colour concept with dark teal/blue being more alligned with darkstone, i know the red was to instill a sense of danger but man. teal eden feels a way

[rigid mural]

OH MY GOD THE ENDING HAD TEXT

[sharp lichen]

PROPHECY?????????

[harsh pecan]

WOAH

[sharp lichen]

Is this a journey reference?

[compact shale]

WHOAHHH

[sharp lichen]

I KEED TO SNEEP GOODNIGHT BYE

[green pine]

@sharp lichen @stable veldt I took a couple of measurements, one with a skykid falling in place, and another with a crab, and here are the results:

By measuring myself (in ruler mode™️) against a bench, I was able to get a good measuring tool that doesn't move around and flail its arms around. From there, I got the start and end times and the rough distance between them, and did a simple calculation to find a falling acceleration for idle skykids to be about 2.6 m/s^2 or about 0.266x earth gravity. However, it's important to remember the presence of the skykid's cape and general magic properties that tend to make skykids fall a lot slower. It's a neat reference point for skykid falling acceleration, though won't give us a good estimate on Sky's gravity (which again, is a value too inconsistent to matter much in any reliable way)

As for crabs, they seem to just have no acceleration and just fall with a constant speed, likely out of simplicity for dev work and less calculations that need to be made on big crab hordes.

[stable veldt]

Me rn:

You're a goat through and through. Got a sky kid fall acceleration/their relative gravity, and now we know crabs fall in a constant speed. Is there a chance this calculation might be a bit off with wind updrafts?

[green pine]

In summary, we have a value for a skid's net falling acceleration with their cape while otherwise standing still (2.6 m/s^), and crabs have no falling acceleration likely due to simpler code and processing time. It still doesn't give us an accurate estimation of gravity (and I still firmly believe that no one single number could), but it's neat to know.

[green pine]

This falling acceleration only applies to when a skid is standing still and falling down in a standard area like home isle without any updrafts. It's hyper-specific, and again, doesn't give us all too much info.

[rapid arrow]

Are we still trying to figure out heights or gravity?

[green pine]

no, we've got height down

[stable veldt]

Thank you for the calculation again, legokidlogan, this is some pretty massive find. At least even in standard areas we now know that gravity is way lower for sky kids. This could probably be used as precursor when noting about their flight speed/acceleration

[green pine]

It doesn't necessarily mean that gravity is low for skids, only that their net falling acceleration under these specific conditions is 2.6 m/s^ Their gravity would be much higher, it's just getting slowed down by their cape and whatever else.

[stable veldt]

This might mean we should really pull that capeless glitch, see if their net was actually affected by their cape mechanics

[narrow crescent]

What about using the air trial?

[green pine]

Gravity is really a lost cause and trying to find a constant number for it would go against the nature of the world of Sky, as gravity is all over the place and constantly ignored. So many creatures just do whatever the heck they want via levitation magic, and the same goes for inanimate objects like the islands themselves or the rocks in post-eden, and so on. There's not really much of a constant gravity in this place, and even if there was, 90%+ of everything doesn't even care and does their own thing.

But yes, some people still want to poke the beast that is gravity, at least a little.

[green pine]

If I nab an available friend and remember how to do it, I probably could give it a go
as long as it isn't patched out, at least

[stable veldt]

I'm pretty sure air has different "atmospherics", therefore the fall of sky kids probably be relatively different. We're looking for a place that is constant like standard area

[stable veldt]

I am available and willing to go to eden if you want. Or I can grab you from eden when you went past the point

[green pine]

can't do it in eden, has to be with a krill elsewhere
well, you probably could do it in eden, but uh
no

[naive sequoia]

There's a single krill in the Forgotten Ark area, that was where I practiced dodging. Lots of clouds for recharge too

Oh wait you were gonna do the capeless glitch

[keen shore]

Why are you apologizing to me and not alasdair ?

[naive sequoia]

Didn't it used to be that you can lose light just by bonking so hard into something? I forgot when that was but I'm sure it existed at one point until they removed it

Edit: oh wait it was already mentioned, gosh I am so slow

[green pine]

you still do, as far as I can tell
the situation I'm talking about is already having close to zero charge and then bonking hard enough to lose a star

[naive sequoia]

Guess I have dinner plans after all

[lean siren]

I'm going to lose it QHAT ARE THE EGGS 8N FOREST TREE WHAT ARE THEY

[compact shale]

Literal Easter eggs from a light Awaits quest

[harsh pecan]

you sure?

[eager flare]

Why not just apologize to Alasdair privately in DMs? Backtracking on what you said before is not going to help resolve the situation so we can all just move on to lore discussions

[stable veldt]

Hello lore, something piqued my mind: About the general weather + geographical stuff rabout sky's kingdom, example probably on what heights does the islands floats in, how cold is the kingdom, etc etc

[nimble ingot]

so far we can tell, the higher you go, the colder it gets.

[stable veldt]

Even at i assume low areas like sanctuary, there's also sun dogs, either that's an artistic touch or even sanc supposedly is on freezing level, since sun dogs are basically made from light hitting hexagonal ice

[nimble ingot]

true.
The game makes a point to use sun dogs to indicate the location of winged light, as well as when looking at the light above the eden mountain.

Now I wonder if winged light is cold to the touch, or are they like tiny neutron stars?

[stable veldt]

And since we're like collecting WLs and eventually made out of it, are skids actually cold?

[nimble ingot]

the odd thing is, a skykid is warm. Practically so because of the flame they carry within them and they way they always glow.

[stable veldt]

I've been floating around valley and whenever skid wants to land it seems like the snow "melted" a bit before skid's imminent landing. Either it's because they put snow particles same as grass (they got blew away) or they actually melt, makes that if skids are hot

[nimble ingot]

A skykid without light would probably be colder compared to one that has light.

Imagine Krill have poor eye sight but can sense heat coming off skykids...
....but not winged light....

oh, would that be the case??

[stable veldt]

That's interesting. Though, i once travel around eden thinking if i would go undetected by krills without any wing wedge.

I was dead wrong. They cost me additional 4 WLs lost . but i guess they sense the still-lingering WL inside us?

This also means they should've aimed for the lamp posts in GW instead of the manta. So i don't think krills detect us by heat

[nimble ingot]

True.
I believe that is an oversight from the devs, personally.

I tested a theory in the past about what happens to a skykid killed outside of Eden's final area.
If your light is out, but carry winged light still. The krill can still detect and attack you.

I wonder if it should have been a case of the krill would ignore you if your light is out instead of attacking a helpless downed skykid.

If it is intentional, then the skykid might still have a light within them, but the light is too weak, leaving the skykid darkened untill they find a source of light to rekindle their light.

[stable veldt]

I guess they do still have light. Without any WLs at all we would turn to pure stone + darkness (like in eden) and the soul would whisk away

[compact shale]

Krill eyes are just really big infrareds

[nimble ingot]

I always wondered why the krill would not go for winged light, if they are after skykids.

With or without their lights, the krill would attack.
So, the krill could be after the soul, since it does react to spirits fragments when they do spot them (the timing had to be right, otherwise the krill does not see it). However, it is hard to make that argument seeing the krill do not attack spirit fragments (fortunately), though the matter of them reacting to them is still op for debate risky testing.

I think there is more that the game is not able to properly explain due to the krill's coding does not give a clear answer.
They dont detect flames (coming from props of the ones already in the level), they dont go for winged light at all, they react to spirit memories at times. But they will, without a doubt, attack skykids.

[compact shale]

Couldn't the krill be after the wl still in us, or should it theoretically be undetectable?

[stable veldt]

Other thing is, I'm pretty sure they're aiming for the light within us, a different kind of light: the WL. But then this implies creatures of light like that poor manta has at least 1 WL inside them to make them fly

[compact shale]

Maybe the manta has as much light magnitude as a wl

[stable veldt]

man this goes from how cold the kingdom is to if krills detect us thorugh WL

A lot of things that I feel lorechat hasn't dug properly, like the geography of the kingdom (mayhaps) and are there cloouuudddss (probably because it's located on top of clouds?)

[nimble ingot]

It is a possibility.
despite the darkened appearance, the cape will always appear white (or just very light).

That cape represents the wl we carry. When you lose your last wl, the cape will disappear.

If anything, it could be the cape carrying wl and the skykid's soul that might be what sets of the krill.

The krill would not react in any other way, since the manta can (hypothetically) be carrying a bit of light in itself along with its soul too.

[nimble ingot]

This is lorechat.

You would be surprised at where it goes and where it has been.
If you are able to look back in the chat. There is a good chance a bunch or people have talked about some things before.
But since the chat alone is not able to collate (combine/collect) the info into a big archive. People will inevitably repeat these questions.

This is because there are new theorists that are making the same discoveries for themselves, and those who have and either left, or stuck around to see the chat go around in a cycle of discovery and well, lore chat.

[stable veldt]

And thus the circle of rebirth continues. We should really consider collect informations we've gathered to avoid running around in circles and we could explain to newbies faster

[nimble ingot]

There are folks that considered making lore docs.
Bricky is one of them that has done so.

The issue is, the canon lore is open ended, and determining what is canon is few and far in between. Let alone a debacle depending on who you ask about parts of the lore.
(see the topics of genders in sky, the colour of their skin and the matter of mouths and skykids being blind)

Simply put, there is a lot to speculate about, and it is a project that may not be easy to complete as a past time hobby.

[sharp lichen]

Good morning, non-sane Skykids!

[compact shale]

no u

[carmine garnet]

Morning. More crazy lore/theory ideas do we have

[compact shale]

who knowss

[stable veldt]

cough While you're away

• legokid literally made net accel count of skids
• just me rambling about heat n stuff

updated the science doc a tadbit too

[hushed steeple]

Good morning everyone

[carmine garnet]

At least theories were getting thrown out.

[hushed steeple]

Do you think some day tgc tell us the history behind sky?

[stable veldt]

a very very very very very very small chance, since Sky revolves around open-interpretation of sky, that's also partially why people look forward for events

[hushed steeple]

Makes sense

[compact shale]

Also, from what we can see, Sky is a story that is still growing. It will grow, it will answer questions as it goes, but it will create new ones as well.

[hushed steeple]

Yes but it must have a history base and the others one histories start due to it

[nimble ingot]

krill might have heat vision

[nimble ingot]

Even a version of the lore, from their interpretation, would be greatly appreciated

[stable veldt]

Our best/closest bet is Ash actually, since they crop up in lore once in a while. It'll be hard for devs to tell their own lore though, since unconsciously they knew to an extent the true entirety of the lore

[undone trench]

Krills might have heat vision and might only chose to target moving objects, that could explain why it doesn't attack lamps and wls, but does attack skykids and manta

[compact shale]

Dev's headcanons aren't bound by the NDAs though, so they can say those

[compact shale]

Right, but the devs are the ones who really know the history

[stable veldt]

Man my message got deleted for a non-rude word smh

Like i said before, it only took them a small slipup for them to accidently reveal something in their headcanon since they knew the true lore of sky and stuff. Might as well play safe

[compact shale]

fjsdfsdfsdn guess so

[formal skiff]

Genuine question, why do NDAs prohibit devs from sharing too much of the lore?

[compact shale]

NDA = Non-Disclosure Agreement, commonly used by companies

Idk it's just an assumption that they have NDAs for the lore too

[formal skiff]

Yeah I figured out what it stood for, but why would lore have to be hidden? /gq

[compact shale]

TGC works in mysterious wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy...

/hj

[formal skiff]

Oh ok so you don’t know either then
Maybe they want to keep it really vague officially so that the “up for interpretation” thing still stands? Idk

[compact shale]

Well yeah that's most likely the case

fshfhsfhsdf

but we'll probably know everything once Sky closes down

it would be a cliffhanger if it didn't

[carmine garnet]

NDA also help them protect stuff from other companies. They are well known for their wonder type games and if another company new what they were making, you might get some very quick bad copies of it

[compact shale]

good thing sky bootlegs don't exist

[nimble ingot]

If sky had to end to reveal the lore, then here is hoping that sky continues to exist for a few more years.
There are some things that it is not worth giving up to follow your dreams.

[compact shale]

I mean

What I'm saying is

every new season brings lore, but it's not always explicit

The biggest drop of explicit lore will probably be when Sky closes down

[stable veldt]

Oh joy you haven't saw the one in roblox

[compact shale]

roblox has a bootleg for everythi-i-i-i-i-iiiiiiiiiiiiinggggggggggggggggggggggggg

[nimble ingot]

A legacy update to tie off the game, sure.
The thing is this game feels like the mmo rpgs that can seemingly carry on forever (as long as there are adventurers to fight off the monsters, the world will continue to exist, type of thing), except for sky it is as long as there are more spirits to save.
On the other, there is a hidden story line in the works, whereas the seasons give us the pieces needed to complete the puzzle (similar to fortnight, but less battles and more wholesome interactions).

[stable veldt]

What if I tell you partially the reason i fly good in sky is because I used to intensely play the one in roblox

[compact shale]

can you dm me proof

[stable veldt]

Of the bootleg? Or me flying frantically

[formal oxide]

there's many reasons. one is spoiling fun for players, if it's something for you to discover on your own, then there'd be no point in playing if you already know. so after that, they might lose players and therefore some profits from that. two is a possibility of having their ideas "stolen", or rather be taken and used by some other games or companies and put out faster. if you worked hard to create something interesting and to make it work you shouldn't disclose it yet, then the process fails if people learn important parts of it

[compact shale]

the bootleg lol lol lol

[formal oxide]

like e.g. if i told you all i know about the lore of game my employee makes, you might become a fan but will you purchase the product to learn more if you already know so much from me? less people would be likely to do so

[compact shale]

yeah thats definitely one thing

[formal oxide]

i do believe Sky isn't made to tell us how this world works and how it became like that. it's mostly about the feeling of enchantment while flying throughout a kingdom full of silent history. revealing events that made this world the way it is would basically be against what this game is trying to envoke

[nimble ingot]

Put in another way, a good story is worth told when it is time.
Pulling back the curtain too fast and too far will reveal the backstage and ruin the magic that the story worked hard to build up.
That and once the story is told till the end, it would not matter what other people say when retelling it. What matters is the story is finished, all of the notes were played and no one can take them away and claim them as their own.
Any retelling of the original story would hardly be able to outshine the source.

However, as stated at the start, overplaying your cards would lead to the ending being revealed too early. With the leaked info, someone else can complete the melody and reap the reward of making a better story of one that did not get to tell its ending.

[compact shale]

Dear goodness are we going too meta?

[stable veldt]

This is lorechat. our existence is simply because of sky's vagueness. If sky spoil their entire lore, we won't be here in the first place

[compact shale]

Fair enough

in the end, those who are still in lorechat have survived existential crisis

[formal oxide]

hehe, i do think it's awesome to get super into thinking out specifics of worldbuilding! the only thing is that there's always a difference between what we as players want to discover and make up and headcanon and suggedt vs. what are devs intentions in developing the world AND revealing it to the players

i mean, if the devs wanted to make a very storytelling game, it'd have speaking characters, first of all
the fact that we never hear any voices is already creating this feeling of peaceful silence with a stranger. well unless it's a krill.

[compact shale]

Fruitzie's Two Moods:

[formal oxide]

DHHDH cute 💛💛

[hushed steeple]

This is the magic of the game! It's precisely because the characters don't talk we never being sure what they're thinking opens up a gap for players to speculate their own perspectives on what's going on in that universe. This build part of the game's originality, I love it! Storytelling options in Sky always depend of players creativity

[sharp lichen]

The only ones who will give the history behind Sky is us. “We are the authors of the lore bible”

[formal oxide]

yeah! and it's awesome. you can take it and run with it

[sharp lichen]

I do think that TLP’s idea of talking spirits is a good idea, actually. However, it needs to be executed precisely, or it’ll feel weird

[formal oxide]

there's always the difficulty of language, tbh. i do imagine this culture of Sky Kingdom to have their own language. if they started speaking english bc i play the english version then that'd be... such a turnoff

[compact shale]

Sky has all sorts of runes. Unfortunately we don't have much in the topic of actually decoding them. We do record them, however.

[sharp lichen]

That’s not an issue that’s unique to Sky, however.

[green pine]

I highly doubt there will ever be vocal human dialogue in Sky, as it goes against how the world has been established so far, requires new staff or contractors, and there's the trouble of multiple languages

[sharp lichen]

I meant dialogue as in what they did in TLP. Voice acting isn’t even present in franchises like Pokémon

[green pine]

They probably could, but at this point in the game it'd likely feel out of place after spirits not using it for so many years, and there's a lot of charm from the way they communicate with bodily language and context clues

[nimble ingot]

The ending in sky is vocalised, as is the intro for Dawn.

The song is the only vocal part of the game.
Which not only makes it unique, it emphasises its importance.

I like to think that it is the voice of the megabird, the song skykids recall like a child does with their mother's lullaby.

[compact shale]

Unlike Journey's ending theme, it hasn't been decoded yet

[formal oxide]

my ipad's speakers are too weak to catch this : ( i also tried to hear the chanting ppl mention before entering the "no-turning-back" point but i didn't hear anything

[green pine]

That does bring up a good point
Has anyone tried to see if it's in a real language, or just fake vocalizations that sound like words?

[rigid mural]

AURORA (the intro and ending's singer) said the lyrics aren't in a particular language and that she went with whatever sounded better to convey the emotion.

[sharp lichen]

Maybe it could be used sparingly for seasonal spirits?

[compact shale]

GYOUAUHGHHGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

NOT THE KAJIURAN CURSE

[rigid mural]

It's at the very end of the tunnel of the point of no return; it's been found out it sounds like Dies Irae.

[formal skiff]

Ah that makes sense, thank you!

[rapid arrow]

Are we discussing language of sky?

[static spire]

Does anyone know what the new TS is going to be?

[south badger]

the next ts is our friend :)

[white dagger]

off topic but is forest elder's hair based off the ninetails or smth similar •• was thinking bc of concept teth

[carmine garnet]

Oooooo

[white dagger]

ref ta this

[nimble ingot]

Would that perhaps suggest the song is either ancient and not meant to be translated?
Or perhaps the reason for vocalising instead of having lyrics is it makes the song feel primal, as in the emotion being conveyed is beyond words.

Almost like how a painting can convey emotion with strokes, while a book can do the same with the lines forming words.

[nimble ingot]

The forest elder might be inspired by a kitsune (9 tailed fox)

[white dagger]

for the end song vocalizarions it kinda reminded me of Samí vocalizations and considering sky has a lot of indigenous inspo from various places i wouldnt be surlrised if it was vaguely similar

[queen pike]

:O

that's dark

[rigid mural]

Well, aurora IS norwegian so...

[white dagger]

ooooooo

[nimble ingot]

lol, we got an official name for the king krill leviathan folks.

Thanks to the recent Poll on the server we got ||The Big Guy||
Any thoughts?

[lofty void]

JJSJSHSHSHXHDHHS

[rigid mural]

The big guy downstairs

[keen shore]

he sure is big. not sure what else to say here

[undone trench]

Seems about right, that thing does seem pretty big,

[raw crypt]

BIG BOYYY

[lofty void]

here comes the... BOY!!!!
HELLO BOY!
WELCOME!
HERE HE COMES, HERE HE IS!
HERE COMES THE BOOOOOOY!!!

[nimble ingot]

when that art book comes out, it better have the names. Even if they are not official, I am dying to know what they are called.

[keen shore]

is calling it a “big guy” meant to imply this is the only being with a gender in the entire world of sky or is it still gender neutral ?

[rigid mural]

Kinda sounds like dude (gender neutral)

[keen shore]

that makes sense but the alternative was too funny to not mention

[undone trench]

Meet a new moth on abyss " have you see The Big Guy yet ? It's pretty chill " they think it'll be like a normal elder, but no, it isn't

[lofty void]

the reason why the spirits are genderless is because the big guy™️ snatched it all /j

[hushed steeple]

ok, so as a quick heads up, I have family over for the week so I’m not going to be on much. So I noticed these murals that seem to be entrapping light in spheres. And it seems thats how we got our elemantal lights. Thats it, I’ll leave it up to you guys now. Bye.

[formal skiff]

Lol I love to think this is canon in universe too

Commodore: So uhh… what are we going to call that thing that ate you?
Cannoneer: It was a big guy
Cannoneer: That is its name

[lofty void]

idc what anyone else says. this is canon now /hj

[undone trench]

I was checking ark's boat murals the other day and, I noticed that, maybe the spirits where catching the fallen stars and making it into the lights we seen in enchantment and prophecy, and that probably ark was carrying some of those when it crashed

[rigid mural]

First picture you posted has the ancestors look like they are carrying an umbrella; I like to think it's a depiction of Lightseekers.

[nimble ingot]

That might be connected to the laughing spirit's memory in Day (In the Village, the spirit's memory shows them catching light orbs with firework staffs)

[undone trench]

I went to check on ark and I found the ones

[keen shore]

do you think it’s the lightseekers as in the specific seasonal spirits we meet, or more ancestors from the same job that the seasonal spirits have?

[undone trench]

What I see it as is, the lightseekers as the name implies seek fallen lights to bring to the people at vault, the ones at vault then turn them into the light we see at enchantment because it has some sort of magical properties,

Ark probably was taking those lights the vault people made to gw so they could use them to fix up gw like we see them do on enchantment's quests

[atomic grove]

I have a lot of questions and I don't know what any of them are

[pastel brook]

Hi folks, what's up?

[nimble ingot]

not much, are you going to change your profile picture, by any chance?

[pastel brook]

Maybe one day I can be a real Skykid!

[nimble ingot]

Do you sleep, just curious?

[pastel brook]

Hey @proud pulsar, how was your Sky day?

[tranquil harbor]

Is it appropriate for the bot to ping random people?

[nimble ingot]

probably fine once in a blue moon

[pastel brook]

I heard a great call ring out in the skies...

[tranquil harbor]

Skybot this is lorechat not general

I know sometimes we veer off topic while discussing lore but that's different

[nimble ingot]

Tell us more please

[atomic grove]

Was....was it a Manta?

[rigid mural]

Found footage of moth Vela after their first trip to Eden, see the message that goes "The real journey starts here..."

[tranquil harbor]

That's part of why I thought Moths shouldn't be discouraged from Eden. It's a gameplay loop. You're supposed to explore the land in between those trips

If you explore it all before then, then there isn't really a journey to go on

[rigid mural]

Feels more like your real journey starts now that you've seen you're part of a cycle.

[nimble ingot]

The message is a clever way to say the game does not end and the game is replayable (well, not quite, but let's just say it does for the lore's sake).
We got to Eden over and over. The 'main quest' is not a once off thing.

[queen pike]

your skykid looks really similar to mine, except i use default mask and i don't have floof

[raw crypt]

https://purplealmonds.tumblr.com/post/678726905570213888/early-character-concept-work-for-sky-children-of More concept art

[carmine garnet]

Look at the tiny creatures!!

[grim pumice]

for fic purposes, what do you guys think skids refer to the portals as? Gateways? Portals? Doors?

[sullen wagon]

Part #2 of theories, sweeter this time

What if spirits need to be relieved cuz our ancestors got tired of helping them and the feelings they once had start to rot?
What if the spirits got in edén cuz they were trying to find a way to us, cuz they needed someone that could finally get rid of the darkness corrupting sky?
Every elder somehow focus their power in some object right? What if those objects are the reason of them loosing power and they never noticed?
What if the valley twins fight because one of them is the good one ||creator of village, races and citadel|| and the other one is actually mean? ||creator of maze, and the rest of it||
What if all butterflies have a corrupted way and we never noticed? What if their power when it gets corrupted it becomes somehow the power off the freezing rocky thingy in spirits body?

[nimble ingot]

ok, this may have been established already but when skykids sleep, they make this tiny vocal sound. That has to be the most human child like sound they can make! ❤️

[rigid mural]

do you think passive crabs were protected

[keen shore]

yes but you may have made a crucial mistake here. I think crab whisperer would corrupt crabs on purpose so that they could make them attack people, not put effort into protecting them

[rigid mural]

DO NOT SPEAK ILL OF CRAB WHISPERER
they are my best friend

[keen shore]

I do love them too but also. I have residual anger over how hard their spirit memory is to relive

[rigid mural]

not their fault they had a once in a lifetime opportunity to re-enact the Titanic

[keen shore]

are you implying they caused the shipwreck on purpose ??

[rigid mural]

bold of you to assume they can drive

[keen shore]

to be fair the lack of driving knowledge may have caused the shipwreck

[nimble ingot]

Imagine a driving test like that XD

"Now dock the boat, slowly."
"I said slowly!"
"Put it down now!!"
"AAAHHH!!!!"

[keen shore]

the boats ARE the sky version of cars now that I think about it

CONSPIRACY THEORY: the only reason the boats in wind paths are towed by mantas is because none of the spirits there know how to drive boats on their own 💔

[nimble ingot]

the boats in the cave are there because it is under a driving course /jk!

[keen shore]

you know that spot in isle where the huge rock outcrop slopes up towards the temple? that’s where everyone learns how to drive boats

[queen forum]

When else do they make noise? In the fourth version of the cold emote we can hear them breathing, we can hear their heartbeat when we hold other peoples hands, the sleeping thing as you just said, the honks, obviously, a few more laugh emotes, the shushing emote…anything else I’m missing?

[native shoal]

The boat wreck is in the middle of a field lol, how did they mess up there?

[nimble ingot]

laughing would also count, though that sounds like their usual calls.
I'll try the others real quick

[queen forum]

Thanks. It’s fun to imagine what they would sound like if they tried speaking English or something. Or if they even have normal vocal chords as we understand that.

[nimble ingot]

yawn, giggle, laugh, cry, grumpy, crab dance, breath (there is the exhale, but its not much), sneeze, hurt (bumbling boatswain in abyss) sounds like it uses the usual call sound (all levels).
Cold level 3 has breath sounds, @queen forum is right!

The rest does not seem to have a sound with the skykid's voice.

[rigid mural]

thats how the enchantment crash happened

[queen forum]

Thank you! Stuff like this is fun to think about when contemplating how the people of the past might have communicating. Honks as well? Or was there some form of earth-like language they had we’ve never heard? Lots of possibilities.

[tranquil harbor]

Honestly, if the kids were to speak human language I'd assume they'd have the same pitch as whatever voice you're using to honk. Using baby manta squeek? Prepare for everything they say to sound like a squeeky toy

[keen shore]

crab walker saw a crab, got distracted, and crashed the ship. the lightning on the murals was a cover up

[queen forum]

That would be adorable. But now I’m imagining them speaking with the Crab call and that’s quite the voice I’m hearing.

[nimble ingot]

Here is the background music playing in the final area of Eden.
Apologies for the background noise. This was recorded from another device (I am not the best with recording sound).

To do this, you mute sound effects and music instruments.

Hope this is useful. Though this is the most subtle in game soundtrack in the game.

[tranquil harbor]

Wait that area plays music???

[nimble ingot]

surprisingly, yes

[rigid mural]

omg i was looking for that ! it's got a name on spotify, gimme a bit

[nimble ingot]

gotta say, it feels more cinematic when you can hear it more clearly like this lol.

[tranquil harbor]

I wonder how it would feel to do an eden run with that music actually hearable. But it'd make death meteor queue harder to time

[nimble ingot]

well, how else am I able to get this sound? XD

[raw crypt]

https://youtu.be/BsGDdaQbkrQ heres a clearer version (official ost link), its a lovely track

[tranquil harbor]

I refuse to believe you didn't get this by hiding behind a rock next to a statue

[nimble ingot]

thanks! ❤️

[queen forum]

It is. If I heard it for the first time, I never would have imagined it would be in an area like that. It’s very beautiful.

[nimble ingot]

I did. While letting the recorder do its thing, I had a flame to keep me company.

[rigid mural]

the title is exhale but spotify links are censored it seems
probably reflects your demise here

[tranquil harbor]

It's called exhale? Really? Like, that's 'taking your final breath' levels of morbid.
However, it could also reflect something being 'over' and letting out the breath you've been holding in

[nimble ingot]

exhale?

As in, a dying breath? o.o

[rigid mural]

i mean, you litterally die here

[queen forum]

Sky can be pretty morbid at times.

[rigid mural]

it's jarring how calm this song is, but it looks intense in-game because of the storm sounds

[tranquil harbor]

I respect TGC's dedication for being suitably alarming. "The kids die, let's make the song sad and name it after their dying breath :)"

[nimble ingot]

The calm amidst the storm

[nimble ingot]

how is this song calming and yet I vividly recall the tension and how chaotic it was from my first trip?
Talk about a surreal contrast.

[tranquil harbor]

The song being calm and yet feeling chaotic and half hazard during eden really brings to mind the panic of an eden trip. The split second decisions you have to start making in the final shower

[rigid mural]

I think it's the storm and wind sounds that make it feel more violent

[tranquil harbor]

You're not actually thinking straight, so even though you need to breath and calm down, this calming song sounds like chaos

[nimble ingot]

yeah.

How on earth?
Would it be the trumpets that blare and set the tone at the get go. Then the storm and the chaos just holds the tension so high, you miss the sombre music up to the end?
There has to be a music based theory that might cover that.

[rigid mural]

Does it play in limbo ? i think it does, but when you hug your light reflection it switches to another song

[nimble ingot]

I am about to find out. now that I know this song is playing

[queen forum]

I don’t remember any song playing in Limbo. Just the sounds of your footsteps on the ground. Could be wrong, though.

[rigid mural]

raider you madman, dont tell me you're going back 😭

[nimble ingot]

I am there

[queen forum]

Good luck.

[nimble ingot]

Here it is.
It is quieter and it much softer at times.
This is what plays in Limbo.

[rigid mural]

lost and found ?

[nimble ingot]

possibly

may as well cover the next area, while I am here.
There is also a heart beat, but when you are near the light kid.

[queen forum]

The heartbeat we have is always fascinating to think about. I don’t think it’s from an actual heart, cause that would mean we have blood or something which would only bring up more possibilities…but maybe it’s just our candlelight flickering making the noise?
Or something like that.

[tranquil harbor]

The only other times we hear the heartbeat is when
A) Holding hands with friends (possible also piggyback? Can someone confirm?)
B) When we've lost a ton of lights and are close to death in eden (and thus also possibly outside if eden? If we lose enough lights?)

So is light child us, on the verge of death but now 'waking up' from it, and thus being at that precarious 'almost dead' stage, or is it really another child/the elder who has come for you?

[queen forum]

I would say the latter, since we can hear it while holding hands with other Skids. And maybe…does anyone remember if we could hear it while holding the hands of the Little Prince?

[nimble ingot]

ok, the ascension part is called flight
https://youtu.be/hy-v42BLom4

I dont have to record that, the link is the song.

[sharp lichen]

Maybe it could be a representation of the dead Skykids in the final room of Eden that you have to revive?

[tranquil harbor]

You don't start hearing heartbeat until you take a beating in eden. If it was the fallen, we'd hear it earlier

[sharp lichen]

the third best song in the game

[nimble ingot]

partly because he is a friend, so holding hands would cause the heartbeat.
The heartbeat can be cause by happiness or trauma. It might be a literal heart beating, or perhaps that of the light of the skykid (not wl)

[carmine garnet]

I known you can hear the heartbeat in Eden when you down to the lower levels of you’re winged light

[compact shale]

I heard a theory about the heartbeat

That just like irl, it becomes faster and more noticeable under intense emotion

Being with someone and nearing death are when a skykid experiences the strongest emotions

[undone trench]

Even tho it doesn't actually happens but when the ground goes red in gw I can hear that heartbeat

[carmine garnet]

Idea for the statue for the fan season

[tranquil harbor]

oooo, I like the second one

[carmine garnet]

The stone that looks like the normal meditation one but with a different middle?

[boreal nebula]

I seee, thanks for the clarificarton

[uncut pond]

Weird, the song was pretty hearable to me in all the Eden runs I did

[boreal nebula]

I like more the third one (bottom left), it is a good mix of the giant king statue in-game and the meditation stone

Oh and it has a rhombus in the middle, like the (still) useless "buddy statue" in Priarie

[boreal nebula]

I cannot listen that Eden music that was uploaded before

what is it? Another subtle similiarity about the game soundtrack like the classical music Dies Irae?
Or another leimotif?

[sharp lichen]

Not Dies Irae again

It pops up so many times during Eden that it’s essentially Eden’s main theme

[boreal nebula]

It is a nice Touch from devs of culture, tho 🧐

[compact shale]

I've heard of the Dies Irae

...from Frozen 2, apparently that's what The Voice is singing

[tranquil mirage]

Off topic, I was wondering what the three glowing orbs in the cave in Isle of Dawn are, like on a smaller version of the Spirit arc boats that they have?

[uncut pond]

I have no idea, it's -ironically enough- the only Sky song I've took the time to listen to

[compact shale]

They're lights possibly extracted by the spirit you can relive there

[sharp lichen]

Some people think that they’re offshoots of the Sanctuary light. I think it’s simply a decoration made of pure light, or a bunch of wax encased in a shell

[boreal nebula]

I even jumped to learn abit more of music and wake up my music player interest once again

[sharp lichen]

Sky music is interesting not only because it’s AMAZING, but there’s so much little clues and leitmotifs that are fun to analyze. For example, the end of the final level of Vault has the same theme as the Isle Temple, which has the theme as the Cave of Prophecies

https://youtu.be/TYcIHksGhp0 For example: this throwaway cutscene theme that plays in Prophecy starts with a lower-pitched version of the Trial completion theme, then at 0:47, the same leitmotif as the 3 tracks I just mentioned are played!

[boreal nebula]

Not much lore for me today, but for whoever is interested here is a close range picture of me flying away from a Great Manta (giant frontal horn)

[sharp lichen]

I theorize that the beginning theme, in some way, plays throughout all the trials

[boreal nebula]

It's a it strange we almost never point out about this kind of horn that just share the Great Manta and the Baby "Pancake" Mantas

Plus both have wings with the same S shape

[sharp lichen]

Now it’s my time! Time for me to connect all the Prophecy tracks together

I swear I’m not insane: look at these tracks https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLqy3SJFBSoT8-xNVgb-0HtsoQ-Ne80dBZ and then look at the beginning of this https://youtu.be/TYcIHksGhp0. Although they sound slightly different in pitch, you can’t tell me that there’s no two-note leitmotif through all of these! Can someone confirm this?

[carmine garnet]

Another doodle

At least for the statue

[foggy lotus]

rock rats jump up when threatened

[harsh pecan]

awww

[sharp lichen]

rock rat vs wooly manta who would win

[harsh pecan]

why fight when they can be friends

[formal skiff]

exactly

[sharp lichen]

they can fight for fun, like in valley

[tranquil harbor]

Yeah, a friendly rivalry can be good for them

[harsh pecan]

wooly manta will block rock rat's attacks

[foggy lotus]

rock rat will get stuck in the fluff

[tranquil harbor]

Or, alternatively, Rock Rat can ride Wooly Manta in the flying race

[sharp lichen]

but rock is super effective against flying

[compact shale]

Rock rat: Mrrrff mrmrmmrrjrmrmrmrmrmghrrghffff quererfjmfmrmmm

[foggy lotus]

So if a sky kid gets hit by a rock they get heavily weakened?

[tranquil harbor]

We see that first hand in Eden

[carmine garnet]

Maybe. Because sky kids may be hollow, getting hit knocks the light around in the bodies

[keen shore]

skykids are encased by rock and are immune to it for this reason, unless it’s Evil Rock, which is different

[formal skiff]

bonk

[foggy lotus]

evil..rock??

[harsh pecan]

the eden rocks

[tranquil harbor]

No, because there are regular grey rocks on the way to eden and they beat the crap out of our kids too. Our kids dislike large, heavy objects speeding towards their faces

[compact shale]

wait

rock rat is an eden rock?

[keen shore]

this is true I will edit my theory. rocks can hurt us regardless of their moral alignment

[tranquil harbor]

Evil rock can hurt our sky kids by proximity though (wait it's kryptonite?)

[foggy lotus]

corrupted rock rats are harmless on their own,
unless well..
there’s many

[keen shore]

All rock can hurt us but evil rock is stronger and more powerful due to its malicious intent

[compact shale]

the remnants of bonk damage

but yeah a good way to destroy a clay vessel is to bash it in with a sufficiently large rock so

edit: TRUBONK?

[carmine garnet]

Makes me wonder about the valley elders and their weapons

[tranquil harbor]

The things they hold in Valley aren't weapons, they're sports tools. Unless you mean whatever they're holding in orbit

[formal skiff]

trubonk

[queen forum]

Turns out the weakness of Sky kids isn’t darkness, or oil, or whatever the red stuff is. It’s rocks.

Just rocks.

[formal skiff]

it's bonk

[tranquil harbor]

to be fair to them, we too, are weak to big rocks

[formal skiff]

we have so much in common with skids

[compact shale]

yes

humans will also suffer when their squishy bodies are bashed in by rocks

[rigid mural]

wooly mantas avoid fights so rats could win by agressivity alone

[rigid mural]

But yeah, I think a lot about the light awaits text, like ??? prophecy ??? is it possible that it is linked to the season of prophecy ?

[undone trench]

Wooly manta can fly, it can just flee the battle by air,

[sharp lichen]

Wait: are the winged travelers the protagonists from journey???

[queen forum]

We’re both humanoid, we both have hair, we’re both vulnerable to big rocks, we’re…we’re…actually, that’s about it.

[formal skiff]

we both learn body language by watching others

[tranquil harbor]

The sky kids certainly behave like human children, barring the constant candle waving and the occasional odd player habits (like torches on grandma's table)

[rigid mural]

sky children

[formal skiff]

we bootthh... explode our food like fireworks in order to consume it? ||or is that just me?||

[tranquil harbor]

Bird I think you need to go to a doctor

[carmine garnet]

I feel like sense sky kids are more social creatures, they would have tiny groups or communities they would live with?

[queen forum]

||I’m guessing it’s microwave all day for you.||

[undone trench]

We both can fly, we both have elders, we both can be short or tall,

[compact shale]

we are like children, but touching fire is an ok thing for us to do

[queen forum]

I’m sure they are. I can definitely imagine most Skids having a phobia of being alone. The whole game is about making friends, after all.

[compact shale]

I sure don't like being alone. No, comatose spirits don't count as companions.

[formal skiff]

no i use my candle and then it turns into light and i absorb it
is that not how you eat
||/j||

[lofty void]

“fire safety is for wimps” — Asteria (my skid)

[tranquil harbor]

I mean, solo players aren't punished for playing solo (beyond some doors being a nuisance) so I'd say they're fine being alone, but they probably prefer being together. Like, holding hands is an instant unlock, it says something.

[queen forum]

I just blend it all together and drink it like a smoothie. It’s not like my stomach can tell the difference. ||/s||

[compact shale]

It's biologically (in terms of how we're built) better for us to be together :D

[undone trench]

Even multiple player doors can be accessible with the right tools,

[lofty void]

yall i just eat the food whole

[tranquil harbor]

Yeah, human compassion and our ability to work together is probably our best survival trait, with our adaptability being a close second.

[queen forum]

Poor anti social sky kid. Just trying to rest on some remote mountaintop, and then five seconds later they hear a moth heading towards them or an entire band playing five different musicals instruments.

[rigid mural]

One of the game's core themes is community and help so I totally see sky children seeking groups if they are alone

[tranquil harbor]

Yeah but that's stuff like table glitches and chibi fall. I don't count those ever (except for this one joke theory about table glitch being real because the kids are using magic in a way they're really not supposed to)

@queen forum I don't think any sky kid is anti social. Rather, at most, they can do either comfortably

[rigid mural]

HELP THAT'S THE SKY EXPERIENCE THO
both happened to me, but moths are cute and bands are fun

[compact shale]

I mean, sitting at random tables is a thing

[foggy lotus]

Rock rats alone: only takes a bit of cape energy a way - just a bit annoying tbh..
Rock rats with their family: OH MY GOD HELP-

[compact shale]

And then the rats go on your back without your permission

[queen forum]

Sky kid just summoned the horde.

[tranquil harbor]

Other games: Your base character looks like garbage and you will never wear these clothes again.
Sky: Your base character is adorable. The more experienced players find you so cute they'll adopt you on sight.

[keen shore]

I am going to use this for theoryposting soon but I have the human version of a battery with 1% energy right now … watch out in the future

[undone trench]

Every time a different player moves in a 25 meters range of me I'll start panicking, the peaceful sky experience,

[compact shale]

Do you ever sometimes wish the cutscenes wouldn't show you in the outfit you actually have because of how stupid it is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxPK9utUq5o

[queen forum]

I always make sure my Skid is a beautiful boy.

[carmine garnet]

I figure even if people were soul players going out in the world, they would still want to be around others when the rest, for safety from the mean crabs

[tranquil harbor]

I feel like in sky, dumb outfits in cutscenes is actually a good thing (sometimes) because they're kids allowed to dress themselves. Of course they're gonna dress up like lil sushi fish

(but yeah, I don't have that issue because my kid is always an elegant beauty. Except right now. A size potion made me short so I'm Chibi Moth Deluxe until I can get more potions)

[formal skiff]

exactly
sometimes i just go around with the combo i've deemed Max Adorableness: all moff clothes, except +chibi and +flower crown
pure cuteness

[queen forum]

I love to go Super Mini moth. Moth outfit with Chibi mask and downsizing spell.

[rigid mural]

oh no ! wooly manta to the rescue !

[carmine garnet]

Plus a lot of kids do that. I mean sometimes letting kids dress themselves is a fashion disaster

[formal skiff]

awww

[compact shale]

Abyss Guide: We'll have to make the crew think you're just another survivor who needs a place to be. That's going to be hard to pull off considering how you look like my Baba's landlord but tinier.

[queen forum]

Hey, if they’re pirates, then that’ll fit right in.

[formal skiff]

THE LIL TAIL WAG

[tranquil harbor]

Moth + Ai bow is the rules I live by (I'm always packing an instrument though, because I can't live without them)

[keen shore]

It’s like how cats snuggle into your face. You can’t breathe, but they’re cheering you up AND it means they love you so you can’t be mad

[compact shale]

Abyss Guide: You look like you're going to evict us.

[undone trench]

The unstoppable enemie, wooly krill too cute to stay away from, normally doesn't end up well,

[compact shale]

*a cute flute tune plays in the background

[formal skiff]

yeah i usually bring my beach chairs cuz i like to have friendly chats with people i'll never see again, it makes me happy

[keen shore]

My cat got grumpy at me because I wouldn’t let him snuggle on my face and love me after my wisdom teeth got removed, that’s the inspiration for this post

[queen forum]

“I’ll evict Cackling Cannoneer, but the rest can stay”.

• The True reason why they left.

[undone trench]

Every time I sit down no matter how far away I am my cats will always full speed towards me,

[keen shore]

I think every skykid needs and deserves a therapy wooly manta at this point tbh… would help cancel out all the sadness they have to deal with on a daily basis

[tranquil harbor]

Abyss was actually a Whacky Hinjinks Comedy by the crew to make u love cannoneer enough to let them stay

[compact shale]

I'm not allowed to interact with stray cats anymore

||That's because if you end up needing a rabies shot the full treatment in my country requires more than 10 injections and obviously who wants that||

[queen forum]

Turns out the crew is actually an Improv group.

[tranquil harbor]

Please tell me you didn't have to go through that

[compact shale]

My mom had to, that's why I know it takes more than 10 injections

[undone trench]

Interact with a new cat, but have to get 10 injections, worth it for me,

[carmine garnet]

Do you think if the spirits stay around more, who would adopt the most skykids and like which ones (like the more chaotic ones verse music and such)

[keen shore]

The belonging family has DEFINITELY adopted us by this point at least. I think the flight guide is considering it

[compact shale]

Gran definitely wants to adopt us. One day we'll burn a bun and find an adoption certificate inside.

[keen shore]

Let’s be real it’s probably already happened, we just can’t read

[foggy lotus]

We’re just the close cousin everybody likes to the Abyss crew

[queen forum]

Why are y’all cats so nice? ||The only ones I ever met would be happy to publicly eviscerate me if I left out one piece of kibble in their food bowl.||

[compact shale]

Skykid: Is this a fortune? Is this a threat?

[keen shore]

None of the assembly spirits are old enough to adopt us as siblings, but if they were, they would have also adopted us

[tranquil harbor]

I think kids would be drawn to spirits similar to them. A kid who really likes nature might be adopted by the Sanctuary Guide.

Flight group definitely might have at least one of them adopt a kid. The wind paths being a fly friendly zone means kids might wander in frequently, and they did need our help because they can't fly. Someone adopting a sky child means they don't need to worry about not having a flyer again. (that makes it sound like they'd adopt kids for utility, whoops)

I can see maybe Skater's Mom adopting one of them actually? Possibly the kid who 'canonically' helps with the dream quest.

Granny is everyone's grandma. That is just the law.

[compact shale]

They can always recruit us to their totally notlegit scout organization group

[undone trench]

If it's abyss we'll visit and discover Every Single Piece of gw as a whole

[rigid mural]

jokes on you, we're adopted by all the spirits

[carmine garnet]

I’m just imagining a sky kid lighting up a canon and the abyss crew being like ‘that chaotic gremlin is ours’

[keen shore]

Do you think the spirits ever jokingly fight over who adopted us first

[tranquil harbor]

Honestly, I could see Prophecy Guide adopting one. The other prophets have kids, he's willing to hug us. Seems like the kind of person who'd adopt a kid.

[compact shale]

If we could make spirits go to other places, where would we make them go?

[queen forum]

Every spirit is just the “only known them for an hour, but if anything happens to them, I’ll kill everyone in this room and then myself” meme come to life.

[tranquil harbor]

I want to show the young skater Sanctuary Islands, because come on that place is awesome.

I would move entire mountains for the skater. She is my favorite character hands down, be all end all.

[compact shale]

What would be some interesting season dynamics?

[undone trench]

All the spirits and elders are like " awww look at that sky kid, look at it! " while the kid is trying to burn something,

[foggy lotus]

What if we take them to home realm in the winter

[keen shore]

I think it would be funny to spawn a bunch of spirits in one of the elder cutscene pocket dimensions

[queen forum]

I’m taking the Bearhug Yeti to Golden Wasteland. He can defend us from the Krills by giving them a hug so strong it scares even them.

[compact shale]

And see them melt into pieces

[keen shore]

Take her to the valley eldars

[tranquil harbor]

YES! They must praise her! (I wonder if they got to see her performance. Either because it was before the kingdom's fall and they weren't possibly locked away, they saw our memories of it, or straight up they can just leave and watched from the crowd)

[undone trench]

I'd bring valley twins to gw, competition of who can win a fight against more krills,

[carmine garnet]

Ok. But some of those spirit have to keep some sky kids on baby leashes

[keen shore]

That’s what the capes are for

[compact shale]

Gran's great but I don't think they can keep up with us speed-wise

[undone trench]

Ngl from all spirits a sky kid could ever annoy gw and isle elder doesn't seem very wise to,

[tranquil harbor]

I still want to see Wasteland Elder beat up a krill

[compact shale]

Isle Guide is actually supposed to be a guide for the skykids in concept

[undone trench]

To be fair, same

[queen forum]

One Punch Elder.

[carmine garnet]

I mean kind of like this. Cause sky kids immediately go to cause chaos

[undone trench]

Isle elder would probs just put the sky kid on the staff to keep track of it,

[compact shale]

Valley Tour guide: Alright, here are our great elders!
Tourists: Are you sure we should be in here while they're fighting?
Valley tour guide: My dear traveler, they're always fighting. Now just stay behind this red line and you'll be fine.

[compact shale]

What if Teth's hair was even longer

and was the leash

[undone trench]

Speaking of valley twins, did one built the ground race and the other built the air one ?

[rigid mural]

wasteland elder pretending to be stoic but deep inside their heart is melting for the sky kids climbing on them

[keen shore]

this is my personal idea for how it works, I’m just not sure who built who. My gut feeling is that the spiky hair twin built the flying race and citadel, but I’m not sure

[tranquil harbor]

Tbh I don't even think the valley elders could fit on the manta needed to do the air race. It might have been the ancestor's idea and they just went 'okay sure'

[undone trench]

Oh wait yeah I only thought of that Now, how do spirits do the flying race, when they can't fly, So that's what the mantas are for!

[compact shale]

Spiky might've built the sliding race, considering how sharp stuff is associated with the ground and such

[carmine garnet]

Hey remember that the race track has two colors on each side, so I think that shows weather one or both worked on it.
But yeah I can see the wasteland elder heart melting for baby skykids, however they would also be handing the kids weapons

[tranquil harbor]

I think you can actually see a spirit riding a manta in one of the citadel memories

Forest Mama is definitely someone who appears cold but really really loves you. Any sky kid who could see that would be swarming her

[rigid mural]

backflip champion's memory has them riding a manta so...

[formal skiff]

*however they would also be handling the kids as weapons /j
yeet the moth at the krill

[compact shale]

NO NO NOOOOOOOO

It takes a whole server of skykids just to wield Wasteland elder's spear

[queen forum]

Now, this, boys and girls, is what’s called a Long Sword. And I’m going to show you the best way to use it against an opponent.

[undone trench]

Why didn't anyone tell me this before, all I had to do to get a spear as well was talking to gw elder /j

[tranquil harbor]

A season where one of the quests requires 8 people to get the spear to the elder

[compact shale]

Like

4 would support it from the ground, 4 would aim, and all 8 have to work together to get it thrown

[tranquil harbor]

Getting 4 people for assembly was difficult, imagine

[keen shore]

I have a headcanon that the color palette of the flying and sliding races, and the two sides of the coliseum (red and blue) extends to both the twins as well and the elders are supposed to be much more colorful in general. They only look monochrome and dull to us because they barely have any light at the moment, so they can’t use it to project fancy shapes and colors and instead have to go for the very basic look.

Because, let’s be real, if they were given the choice i think both valley twins would look a Lot fancier

[rigid mural]

SALEM YOUR MIND

[carmine garnet]

I imagine if they every need a break, they could take a sky kids a swalled them in their cap, just to give the kids something to work against before they could cause chaos

[queen forum]

Just use the cannon on the roof in the Secret Area, lol.

[compact shale]

what's a swalled them

[tranquil harbor]

Ironically, I don't think they'd look all that fancy. They're wearing sports uniforms and simple, unobtrusive masks. Even their hair is short and manageable. They're athletes, being fancy would get in the way.

[undone trench]

If we did give light to the valley twins they'd probs use it against the other instead,

[compact shale]

maybe it would color their prosthetic arms lol

[tranquil harbor]

We saw what happens when we give them light. They bicker over who gets to 'receive' it and forget 'hey this is a child's soul' and then whoops, it's in space

[keen shore]

Thank you <3 always appreciate when others enjoy my small headcanons as much as I do !

Extensions of this idea would be the valley elders being able to project armor if they wanted to similar to the giant statues in coliseum, all the elders being much more colorful/detailed than normal, and so on. The wasteland elder would get actual armor. Since these are solidified light projections they don’t work like normal clothes and get in the way of stuff, so it’s like skykid clothes - they can just switch them whenever

[undone trench]

Light football, like normal football just with sticks and a flame,

[queen forum]

Just the Twins being Twins.

[carmine garnet]

Wrap them up like a burrito

[tranquil harbor]

Oh, 'swaddled in their cape' (I think)

[queen forum]

Sky Kid burrito would be the most adorable thing in whatever realm they happen to be in at the time.

[tranquil harbor]

do it to a chibi and they become even babier than before

[keen shore]

Chibi with the violence removed

[undone trench]

They try to attack but just fail,

[queen forum]

Chibi mask comes with the unfortunate side effect of minor insanity.

[compact shale]

they become a burrito and they just roll around pathetically

[carmine garnet]

The would inch on the ground like an inch worm trying to free themselves

[undone trench]

What's more dangerous, a single chibi or the whole of eden ( including the eye of eden )

[tranquil harbor]

chibi

[compact shale]

Wooly manta: *teasing woos

[queen forum]

Chibi becomes the new “normal character suddenly becomes a universe destroyer” meme.

[carmine garnet]

The elders : ahhhh peace.
Anger burrito sky kid : inches into chaos

[undone trench]

Idk why but a chibi burrito moving like that cracks me up,

[compact shale]

As a chibi who also works as a lorer, I can tell yall these are my two moods

[tranquil harbor]

They get in the way and trip some poor spirit who was just trying to walk, who then falls on a cart and then disaster dominos begins

[queen forum]

Turns out Krill are just corrupted Chibi.

[harsh pecan]

lol

[tranquil harbor]

It'd be pretty messed up if Krill really were corrupted sky kids

[compact shale]

Meduka-

[undone trench]

It would also make it easier to escape one " OI! LOOK! THAT TS OVER THERE GOT NEW PANTS! " and done,

[meager wolf]

sorry for the late reply, if this is where you went for beta i wish they kept it

[queen forum]

I always had a personal theory that the Krill were actually the people of the past in some corrupted form. Maybe they drank/ate/whatever the darkness thinking it would let them turn into darkness creatures and “save” them, but all it did was turn them into that. An act of desperation powered by fear.

[tranquil harbor]

One of the spirits in starlight desert drinks dark water and seems fine (except kinda drunk) so there is that. Except it's a lil prince crossover so who knows how 'canon' those spirits are

[undone trench]

Welp, only one way to know,

[queen forum]

True. I feel like that might have been…something else.

[queen forum]

Glug, glug, glug.

[rapid arrow]

Gasoline can make your drunk. This is only proving the fact the the wasteland smell like gasoline

[rigid mural]

thinking about them

[queen forum]

I mean, it would also just kill you.

[tranquil harbor]

I really do want some proper armor pants for our kids.

[undone trench]

Welp, only one way to find out as well, brb,

[keen shore]

THANK YOU!!! THIS IS EXACFLY WHAT I ENVISIONED IT LOOKS SO GOOD !

[compact shale]

good thing you can say drumk with an n

[tranquil harbor]

Was the word banned before?

[undone trench]

I always get surprised with how well everyone here can draw, wish I had those skills,

[queen forum]

Wouldn’t be a surprise. Still a family friendly server.

[harsh pecan]

oooo the cape

[compact shale]

Probably, but it's banned for me

[carmine garnet]

So if the valley twins are red and blue, and wasteland is orange. What are the others color?

[queen forum]

Forest is green.

[undone trench]

Vault is the same just with more bright colors

[keen shore]

I don’t think they each stuck to like one specific color except maybe the valley twins during sporting events. If they DID it would be aligned with their realm lights I bet

So Forest would be blue, valley twins would be cyan, and wasteland would still be orange

[queen forum]

Would Eden be red, then?

[keen shore]

Vault would either be purple or somewhat resemble the cosmic mantas we see scattered throughout the realms. I can see the vault elder making their clothes look like a Galaxy or something

[rigid mural]

bonus ayin, who ended up looking like they are in a hawaiian shirt but thats in-character tbh

[undone trench]

If we give the light to eden it'll probs go back to looking short

[rapid arrow]

I always associated the vault with purple or navy blue

[keen shore]

I am in tears. Not just one piece of art but two?? Thank you so much <333

[harsh pecan]

make it purple :D

[undone trench]

How can y'all draw so well

[rigid mural]

coloring them after their prophecy light tbh, so by that logic teth would be blue and the twins would have some cyan somewhere

[keen shore]

That was my idea yes!!! Either isle or the king is red. I still feel like I know next to nothing about the red light so even if isle would make more initial logical sense I’m still not 100% sure

[undone trench]

Eden probably didn't look all that destroyed before, so maybe eden elder would be the color of a wl

[queen forum]

Golden Yellow…yes, that would be just

[carmine garnet]

I was about to say. I’m thinking for the prince before he’s corrupt has golden highlights for his cape

[rigid mural]

this one is for the lesbians
(hrm... i should probably switch to something better than paint)

[uncut pond]

You're drawing these in paint??

[keen shore]

THANK YOUVELA

[rigid mural]

yeah im too lazy to get up, walk a meter and get my tablet

[uncut pond]

No I mean literally I don't know how can someone draw this well in paint
I can barely draw in proper drawing apps

[rigid mural]

spite

[keen shore]

I imagined their clothes colors almost changing with their emotion/how much light they have. Like when they’re sad or drained, the colors are less saturated (the extreme version being how we see them now) but with enough energy they are bright, vivid, and can even glow

[carmine garnet]

Ooooo….I’m thinking the prince may have like a glow of star shape light around his head, but maybe the crown blocked it out

[keen shore]

Maybe sometimes the colors/patterns unconsciously start reflecting the prophecy light for each realm (like forest elder’s clothes almost look like water is rippling over them, and float around them more) but this is leaning more into my headcanon of the elders’ light partially being replaced by the realm lights

[queen forum]

Does that mean their clothes are part of their…form, so to speak? Like something that connects to their actual body?

[keen shore]

More like how skykids work, where they have a basic outer shell and the clothes are projected light. When they have more light, they can project more vivid clothes and so on

[undone trench]

Before and after meditating on forest temple, on the cutscene the forest elder can be seen making a diamond shaped thing like the one we see in the hole, so maybe the elders can still interact with the normal world to some extent

[uncut pond]

I mean, most elders literally open giant doors lol

[undone trench]

Wait- the doors opening are their doing?!

[uncut pond]

What else would it be?

[compact shale]

Yeah, after we offer their light

[undone trench]

Light mechanism,

[rigid mural]

colorful pretty boys

[queen forum]

[raw crypt]

eats ur art

[uncut pond]

I don't think the skids are that powerful

[undone trench]

We can survive a Krill with minor injuries, so perhaps,

[rigid mural]

no u

[keen shore]

So you know how valley has a lot of performers and performers are commonly associated with birds in the sky universe… (dreams skater, most dancers/musicians have bird masks), and there are super colorful red and blue birds…

[rigid mural]

OH OH I GOT JUST THE BIRD FOR U

[uncut pond]

You mean, in-game? Or you mean like real birds? All the ones I've seen in-game are white

[rigid mural]

crimson rosella, and female eclectus

[keen shore]

I mean irl birds! Like cardinals (bright red) or bluebirds and blue jays (bright blue), there are probably tons of other colorful birds as well - these are just the ones I’m familiar with

[rigid mural]

chestnut bellied rock thrush too

[compact shale]

BIRBS

[rigid mural]

honestly you could get a 3rd grader to color a drawing of a bird & it would probably end up close to the coloration of a specie that exists, see painted buntings

[keen shore]

Imagining the valley twins having a super fancy bird themed look for events relating to music/art/so on, like the cape looks like wings and all… so Cool 💛

[rigid mural]

the valley elders must have wonderful tastes then

[undone trench]

If the beak is sharp like the crow mask, they would probably use it against each other,

[rigid mural]

BEAK JOUSTING

[compact shale]

extra long beak mask

[undone trench]

A music concert going on, all spirits behaving well and the elders just fighting

[rigid mural]

forever emotional over the switch trailer showing us how colorful the ancestors were in their lifetime

[uncut pond]

That would actually be pretty rad, we need a season revolving around the elders

[keen shore]

When questioned on why they look so much like birds, the valley twins respond “if forest can look like a cat why can’t we be birds”

[harsh pecan]

now theyre just blue and grey

[rigid mural]

GO OFF BESTIES
bird furries unite

[keen shore]

Not going to lie… Emotions™️ over that were a big reason behind this headcanon

[compact shale]

are they called "Featheries?" /gen

[undone trench]

I wish we could see the elders actually walking around somewhere, instead all we have is some cutsnenes where our view is locked and orbit where they look like statues

[rigid mural]

no idea tbh, they got lots of names, heard "avians" once

[compact shale]

Maybe there's a reason why they're only there

Are spirits bound to their memorial/area? (assuming TS aren't canon)

[uncut pond]

Nah, "furries" is the blanket term for all animal and cryptid based humanoids

[queen forum]

We’re pretty powerful…I think I have a list of our abilities.
Infinite Stamina.
*Pyrokinesis. (Able to control small amounts of fire).
*Photokinesis: (able to control small amounts of light.)
*Flight with cape.
*Unable to be hurt by either extreme heat or extreme cold, gains strength from the former, as shown with not being affected by the Valley snow and cold.
*Superhuman strength: four of us working together and lift the heavy stone door on the second floor of Vault.
*Minor telekinesis: able to move a stone the size of someone’s head.
*Able to teleport with the shrines and change form with a clothes shrine.
*Protection against most types of great physical harm: Not damaged by falling from great heights or flying into things in any way, but can be hurt by sharpened rocks to the cranial area in Eden.
*Candle and various props: Can summon a candle and thus a flame, along with props, like magic.
*Immortality: Can never truly “die”. If sent through Eden they will be reborn again, and if all light is lost we will be reborn as well. They do not seem to age like normal beings as well.
*Animal talk: Able to communicate with animals such as Mantas, Crabs, and Birds through the use of their various calls.
*Mimicry: Sky Kids are perfect mimics and can copy the actions of any Spirits they meet almost instantly.

Weaknesses: Drowning. Like most living things, Sky Kids are susceptible to drowning in water.
*Darkness: Can be injured by Dark water and dark creatures like Crabs and Krill.
*Red rocks: The mysterious red rocks in Eden cause great harm to Sky kids.
*Extreme winds: Sky kids are unable to push past hurricane force winds while in midair and thus are helpless against them.

Any I missed?

[keen shore]

The forest elder keeps accidentally giving themselves cat ears and tail when they get excited, and when everyone else sees it, they get shy and try to hide them

[compact shale]

like Komi?

[undone trench]

We got valley twins using bird mask, and forest elder being a cat, where did that one surges from

[uncut pond]

My point was just that the skids' telekinesis isn't powerful enough to open the giant doors lol

[compact shale]

Forest Elder used to be a lynx

[queen forum]

…I know. But I just wanted an excuse to finally make that list.

[undone trench]

Pardon me, Wha-

[uncut pond]

Honestly, looking at that list... Skids might be up there right next to Minecraft Steve and DMC Vergil in terms of power

[queen forum]

[compact shale]

crunchy quality but

[undone trench]

Cat on water place

[compact shale]

is the bathroom mirror cry scene too graphic

[rigid mural]

nah im just lazy

[sharp lichen]

Do deep calls count, since they can hurt dark creatures? Or is it too insignificant of an ability?

[queen forum]

Oh, that’s true. I’ll add it to the list.

Only Crabs, so far.

[undone trench]

Crabs are light creatures ?

[compact shale]

DUDE

[sharp lichen]

WIAT CHANGED IT

[queen forum]

Hahaha. I wonder why that is though. Any reasons as to why our calls flip them over? Is it just like a burst of light energy that pushes them on their backs?

[keen shore]

OH MY GOD

[sharp lichen]

I’d assume so, since deep calls can also restore your energy

Also, spells could count, since they greatly aid Skykids

[keen shore]

My estimate on how deep calls work is that you’re sending your light very quickly out into the area. Maybe it’s some kind of shockwave from an internal process, since it seems to take a fair bit of effort to make

[queen forum]

Adding it to the list. Thank you!

[keen shore]

Spells are foggy in terms of whether they only help us, or whether they can affect or help spirits as well. Since spirits can make them and we can’t, I’d connect spells more to them than us

[queen forum]

True…but since we can still use them to do stuff, I think it would count.

[compact shale]

the mural suggests that they might've used some of them

[undone trench]

So that means spirits can use chibi spells ?

[keen shore]

Yeah, not to mention the Massive Wasteland Weapons

[compact shale]

you think they grew themselves before war? man, I wonder if it was painful

[keen shore]

Maybe. We don’t have tons of evidence on spells being used by spirits, although what we do have seems to say yes. Which is still weird, because if they could use spells to do so much stuff, wouldn’t the spells be much more common and referenced everywhere?

[undone trench]

If they can use spells, maybe so can elders, which means, chibi elders

[compact shale]

Maybe the spells were hard to make

[undone trench]

Chibi Prairie elder would probs use those giant pot things as a home

[sharp lichen]

Well, how did the Prophets restrict spells/capes if they didn’t know they existed? Oh wait, did they prophesize it?

[keen shore]

What do you mean? Spells are mostly enchantment, the prophecy lights seem to work a bit differently (as in, can be used directly for things instead of having to be turned into spells first)

[sharp lichen]

Huh, interesting. I’ve always assumed that Enchantment occurred some time after Prophecy

[keen shore]

I mean, probably? I’m kind of confused on what you’re asking

[sharp lichen]

In the Trials, it explicitly states that spells can’t be used, and your cape is taken away

[queen forum]

Yeah, so there’s some kind of magic keeping you from using them.

[keen shore]

OH!! That seems to be more along the lines of the trials being a mental space rather than special magic. Like, in real life, even if you have a knife with you when you go to bed, you can’t use it in dreams

[sharp lichen]

Trials is debated to be questionably real, I don’t want to start another debate (but I kinda want to)

[compact shale]

Okay

that's a little bit... but I see

[sharp lichen]

Personally, I think that the Trials could be real to me: it makes the Prophets look much more powerful, and the test is much more serious. However, this is only narrative reasons

[keen shore]

Here’s my ideas on why it’s not Real !

• Dying in one, even falling into the void or getting overtaken by darkness, doesn’t get you pity-roomed - you just respawn unharmed
• meditating before entering and then just being in the same spot when you’re done, having not moved at all

Personally, I actually think them being fake is scarier, because that means those entire mind realms were just created by the prophets themselves. Compare them to the elder cutscene spaces and it becomes more impressive, because whether the elders’ spaces have degenerated over time or just faded away with the elders’ light, they pale in comparison to the trials

[compact shale]

What if the trials gave you brain rot but actually scary

they caused your brain to shut down if you fail

that's how the ancestors... well.. yeahh...

[white dagger]

personally for the trials i think they're kinda like the upper floors of the vault, the ones with no spirits in them
i.e. if the skykid stops physically moving through the vault at some time and eventually ends up sitting at the front of the eden gate with the broken elevator, the sky kid eventually stops physically moving through the cave and ends up in one of the trial spaces

[keen shore]

WHO WOULD CREATE A MORE REALISTIC AND TERRIFYING DREAM ?

Powerful semi immortal elder who ruled a realm for centuries
OR
Some guy with a cool spider mask

[white dagger]

as someone with the funny character brainrot i would not want to be stuck in a world like that

and

who says they aren't one and the same B)
ancestor spirits but funky!!!!!!

[sharp lichen]

Those are good points, but remember that Skykids have teleportation powers- it would make sense for them to use it

[undone trench]

Personally i think that the entrance for the trials are where the prophets used to meditate and get sent to the trials to some extent, the trials itself aren't real but for the prophets it seems real and they are actually training there,

[sharp lichen]

That’s funny because I’ve always thought the Prophets as almost demigods, or at least incredibly powerful ancestors

[queen forum]

Honestly, I would be more afraid of the person willing to carve a mask into the shape of a spider and then wear it everywhere they went.

[keen shore]

They have some kind of special power. I mean, they Can see the future…

[white dagger]

well if the prophets are mega powerful ancestor spirits, what about their ancestor spirit (anubis mask guy)
or
maybe the prophets aren't truly the prophets and are like lower prophets in service to a higher prophet (like how there's a bunch of fairly powerful prophets around ancient greek literature but everyone goes back to the Oracle of Delphi)

[keen shore]

I love 💛 spider 💛 so muhc

[white dagger]

spider good but also spider AAA

-resident snake lover

[compact shale]

Do you think the prophets were trained to be prophets since they were young? Were they chosen?

based on Ash's hints about the prophets I have a feeling that they're just normal ancestors in the end, they just got weird dreams and special powers

[keen shore]

That’s my general idea too… unless they got affected by the red light somehow, have been messing around with the idea of that being connected to prophecy/future seeing powers somehow

[undone trench]

I used to hate the prophecy season as a whole but now that I'm more focused on the lore, my views might be changing

[keen shore]

Prophecy Best Season Evar no contest

[sharp lichen]

Second Best Evar, Little Prince is a great contestant

[compact shale]

I have a headcanon that unintellectual things happen in the Prophecy cave after closing time and if anyone else ever saw and they told it would be a major scandal

[keen shore]

Remove the prophecy stan label from your name traitor /j

[sharp lichen]

Why??? Why didn’t you like it?

[white dagger]

oh
shoot this reminds me

you know that trope where old robots are turned into "statues" due to being out of service for so long that they're just kinda stuck there?

what if the statue/monuments of the sentinels in wasteland uhh (the end bit i forgor) are like that? not exactly but theyre just
dormant fighters
the ones pictured on the walls in prophecy
waiting for a certain light to bring them back to fight the darkness

[sharp lichen]

There’s a difference between favorite and best! I’m biased towards Prophecy a lot because of lore, but Prince is such a gorgeous, wonderfully-made season

[undone trench]

The area was so small, the items where lacking and not that good looking and the trials weren't what I expected, and it was arguably my first season

[white dagger]

i didnt have a clue on what was going on in little prince ;,) i joined mid prince and took the whole time getting the hang of everything to complete flight

[sharp lichen]

What season do you think is the best for beginners to jump in?

[keen shore]

Oh god. Um, probably flight, the quests aren’t that hard

[undone trench]

Either flight or sanctuary

[compact shale]

Flight also carries the core spirit of Sky

[sharp lichen]

What is the core spirit of Sky? (Please it’s too late to get into philosophical discussions like this)

[keen shore]

There’s at least 30 spirits in sky which one are we talking about /j

[compact shale]

Flight, friendship, and recovering dead people

[rigid mural]

https://purplealmonds.tumblr.com/post/678726905570213888/early-character-concept-work-for-sky-children-of

The fantasia mushrooms on the bottom left corner of the last pic are sending me

[keen shore]

. I thought those were chibis for a second

[queen forum]

I’d say Friendship, Flight, and Rebirth.

[compact shale]

why can't they be? chibishrooms?

[harsh pecan]

friendship is magic

[tranquil harbor]

wait that's not a child?

[frigid sky]

I think skykids shouldnt have bones and instead are filled with orange juice kinda like inklings being filled with ink /hj

[pastel brook]

did someone say ?

[tranquil harbor]

Replace 'orange juice' with 'light' and tbh they might be.

[keen shore]

sluuuuurrpppp

[rigid mural]

Caprisun

[frigid sky]

Krill and crabs love orange juice then

[keen shore]

hello vela I like the spirit in your avatar. their face looks like this •v•

[rigid mural]

dimiss good

[keen shore]

wise words yes

[rigid mural]

Do you think ascended spirits turning gold is like a pokemon’s Alola form

[tranquil harbor]

-cries- I want the sky kids drinking caprisuns so bad right now. Like, it's ultimate little kid behavior for me for some reason

[keen shore]

what if it’s like faded versions of the WL color almost? Like if we kept turning up the opacity and color temperature, they’d eventually be pure glowy forms of light like what’s in our shell?

[rigid mural]

Fine.

[keen shore]

I am deeply grateful you didn’t make them stick the straw through the Diamond Hole instead

[rigid mural]

Turning the opacity of ancestors up as we make it harder for time to erode their memory, a candle at a time...

[keen shore]

Desperately trying to explain to a spirit that I am trying to merge them all together not for personal science reasons, but to make them all powerful and brighter than god

[tranquil harbor]

Me: "It's wrong to ask Vela to art, I hope Vela doesn't think I'm asking just because they're the one I quoted"
Vela: "Worship me"

[rigid mural]

i just think caprisun sky kid is cute, dont actually request stuff here 😅

[tranquil harbor]

I will never. If you think I'm making a request I am not, I promise.

[rigid mural]

Someone here had a theory relevant to that involving Tearful Light Miner

[keen shore]

Oh no… I wonder who ever could that person have been,.. I would love to talk to them

[rigid mural]

I think it was your theory, in fact, but let me scroll up...

[keen shore]

It was ! I was waiting to see if you realized

[rigid mural]

I may be stupid.

[keen shore]

Do not worry, I am very tired and it helped me cheer up <3

[rigid mural]

I am half horrified because this is adding salt to the trauma but also... I did like the amalgamates in undertale.

[keen shore]

I am seriously considering making a character along similar lines just so I can write about the general concept without it being connected to sky… I want the person soup

[hushed steeple]

I come back to find that not even 5 minutes later somebody else mentions the exact same thing I did and they take all the credit. I'm not mad, just disappointed./j

[rigid mural]

Chat is wierd in that you will say a thing and it more or less is the same as what an unrelated person said a year ago. Nothing is found and nothing is lost.

[hushed steeple]

Ok, well I personally find it suspicious that somebody mentions NEARLY THE EXACT same thing that I did literally 4 minutes later. And they didn't have pictures to prove they did the work, which doesn't make it less valid, just strange and suspicious. I'm probably the only one that finds this suspicious because I've dealt with too many people doing things like this or similar to this.

[errant shell]

oh they did post pictures tho
idk about that

[hushed steeple]

I might be a bit paranoid of people stealing my work because of my past experiences.............

[rigid mural]

It's lore chat, we're all copying eachother's homework.

[errant shell]

ah i feel you
i posted something when no one noticed and someone else posted literally the same thing that got everyone's attention ._,

[keen shore]

Except when you want them to kicks muraldoc under table /j

[rigid mural]

Send it as soon as murals are the topic of the convo for a few days, people will remember it.

[hushed steeple]

Yeah, but my brain thinks they're doing it with malicious intent and I don't like the feeling my brain gives me when that happens. I can tell it wasn't on purpose but my brain is too overprotective.

[rigid mural]

I think your mural doc is great, Salem.

[oak lynx]

Hello

[delicate timber]

https://bigthink.com/the-present/nano-diamond-battery/

uh ohhhh if no one's posted this - sky's prediction might be coming true in the real world (diamond being power outlets and exploited at the expense of sea life ahem Abyss)

[errant shell]

:0

[rigid mural]

[hushed steeple]

ABYSS SEA TURTLE, I MISS YOU!!!!!

[keen shore]

Thank you !! I do appreciate the kind words about it, it can just be a bit frustrating to see people not remember it, but I’m not mad about it

[rigid mural]

Most of the people pointing out the murals seem to not be regulars here, maybe they just didn't see it !

[hushed steeple]

I've watched Turning Red so many times the 4*Town songs are stuck in my head.

Le Gasp TURNING RED SEASON!!!!!

[hushed steeple]

🎵 I'm makin' paper like its origami...🎵

[harsh pecan]

:000

[hushed steeple]

Wait, so going off of the enchantment murals. Did the king trap the prophecy lights inside of spheres?

[hushed steeple]

Ok now I'm going to go watch turning red.

[harsh pecan]

I don’t think it was the King

Also how much times have you watched Turning Red???

[leaden mesa]

Hi, where are the references and sources for the king’s name? Just wondering

[harsh pecan]

Resh and Alef are from the Hebrew alphabet

[leaden mesa]

Thanks. But how do we know they’re the names? According to whom?

[tranquil harbor]

they're not canon but they are in the concept stuff. Some fans use them for convenience

[compact shale]

they USED to be canon kinda

concept-non

[harsh pecan]

In the concepts

[true grove]

Some new concept art
By Tiffany Hayashi on Twitter
https://twitter.com/purplealmonds/status/1503106890758205442?t=nVtJYQT3NhbH2wJRd1ra1Q&s=19

[spark cairn]

Hello lore chat. Does anyone recall seeing this symbol outside of the second treehouse?

[harsh pecan]

Nope

[high bison]

I say it’s a simplified sun
A fire maybe?

Nothing too special

✨New topic✨
What on earth was going on at the Reef that made the giant eel

[compact shale]

Corruption experiments of some kind maybe? To see its extent and/or to cure it?

[high bison]

THE MANTAS IN THE TANKS

WHAT IF THEY FED THEM TO IT

[sharp lichen]

Good morning to another beautiful day in lorechat!

[compact shale]

*morning mood plays in the background

[fluid robin]

I think it could be Mandela effect but was the scene to the wave spirit always like this? (Or after like flight)

I bestow a theory that
Isle, Sanctuary and Wasteland are literally near each other. It's just not close in the "You'll get there by a simple ride that lasts for a few hours" because of how vast oceans are.

[naive sequoia]

Can't wait to see when krills decide to take a vacation from GW

[slate saffron]

OK SO the spirits ancestors( and by extention sky kids) probably all have fingers and their depiction ingame is probably dependent on how big their hands are

Or some ancestors have mitten hands while others don't
and I like this theory better

[slate saffron]

It seems to be the krill creation process/how light was harvested for diamond manufacturing! With the light creatures (in this case, manatas) amalgating to form the dark dragons we know and love following the aftermath of their light being extracted

[compact shale]

Maybe fingers is a genetic mutation thing

Yubi gene

[slate saffron]

Hand racism was a thing in the ancient sky kingdom confirmed

[compact shale]

NAURRRRR

CAN SSOMOENE LIST DOWN AL THE ANCESTORS WITH YUBI (FINGERS)

[celest spoke]

Pre-king: “okay let’s pinky-promise to not turn evil” joke’s on you I got no pinky

[rigid mural]

Excuse the blurry picture but here !
https://twitter.com/thatskygame/status/1284977315861037057?t=Bfg2lex_IeHGAdgk6W0WFQ&s=19

There's a clearer picture out there but see the little picture around the upper right corner ? Well under the figures you can see the concept names :)

Hey lore chat pspspspsps
https://www.pockettactics.com/sky-children-of-the-light/art

[flat helm]

I wanna talk about my own interpretation of Krill biology (kinda?) because I'm writing a few Krillfolk characters

Not me frantically looking at the message to see if I have not swore because I swear like a sailor out of this server fr

[floral grove]

Having fingers in Sky is probably like being left handed irl. It's cool and uncommon so only a few people have it. Now I wonder what a Spirit with a mitten-yubi hands gene mutation would be like

[flat helm]

Me who draws my Sky OCs with fingers

[peak onyx]

do you have instagram to see your art?

[flat helm]

Nope, sorry

One day maybe though

[peak onyx]

I will eagerly await

[copper saffron]

I think they all have fingers, see the switch trailer and the young spirit child that i actually have no idea who it is

[hushed steeple]

Some models have fingers, some have mitt hands, and most of the time, the two versions can be seen standing together! Mitt hands can also be seen in official arts.

[soft timber]

slides in here What if there was a spirit with mitt hands BUT with the pointer and thumb defined? An example of that would be the hand model for Link in the 3ds remake of Ocarina of Time (yea we can clearly see fingers but that's the work of textures, the actual model only have the pointer and thumb defined and the rest of the fingers form mitts)

[hushed steeple]

Hybrid!

[soft timber]

It's an add on to this! I really like this idea and it reminded me of how there are ambidextrous people too, so I wanted to have a group that is like that in a way

[boreal nebula]

I think it might point out how There is a Rainbow in that area over the new Wax Bonefire (at 03:00 in Pacific Day Time, as marked by a stone clock near that bonefire)

But someone else pointed out how it might look like the 2 hut/outpost , a hill with a hole (door maybe) by looking at it from afar

@harsh pecan @spark cairn

#lore-discussion-spoilers message
Here is here I Interpreted all 3 huts/outposts on the Assembly map
@spark cairn @harsh pecan

[scenic ferry]

Does anyone have a compilation of all the ts hints for character development purposes?

[boreal nebula]

afaik it never Was this high up on the bell

[boreal nebula]

The hints given by Ash(one of the devs)? Maybe someone has them in here, but I don't know who could . Sor ry

[scenic ferry]

Yes

[boreal nebula]

Put a short version of my thoughts about Red light into this diagram

[fluid robin]

They'll be fresh seafood barbeque from the hot sun

[boreal nebula]

With my spotlight placed in front of me this tiny 3D bird looked like having grey wings

Imagine if there Was variety in Sky fauna

[keen shore]

Red light is weird because there’s a ton of compelling arguments for what it’s related to, for instance storytelling (as shown above) and the ability to tell the future that I’ve been playing with. The thing is all the other elemental lights have obvious powers? abilities? that they do, like water, fire, etc, and it’s hard to figure out what that Major element for red light is

[boreal nebula]

I think it could be minor darkness control, as to fight it and keeping it at bay (thus muralist is able to reveal what has dissappeared - maybe almost all the murals were coated with it ( if we consider how some appears only when we get near them, reactivating some dormant energy left )

But maybe I am seeing its use from my dumbmoth-eyes

Maybe Ancestors had some other use and customs for it... after all we see it so little about it so far !

I wish too see it has a less greusome aspect (calling it V O I D or D A R K N E S S doesn't I have much of an appeal to me😅 )

[spark cairn]

Thx!

[formal skiff]

Prettyyyy!

[keen shore]

Hmmm… what if purple light is space and red light is time

[rapid arrow]

What are we talking about?

[pastel brook]

We’re all Sky all the time here, @rapid arrow

[formal skiff]

NOOO
Whyyyy name change whyyy
They made it uppercase on both ends but KEPT THE LOWERCASE t ON ONE END OF THE NAME BUT NOT THE OTHER
That bothers meeee
/nm
I’m laughing btw bc it’s such a small thing but it bugs me fsr

[queen pike]

no, sorry

[boreal nebula]

Can you elaborate more?

[nimble ingot]

Alice in Wonderland 😸

[half shadow]

still no Cannoneer art in news? sadge

[nimble ingot]

It has been posted on Twitter though

[half shadow]

OH BYE

[keen shore]

So purple light manifests stuff into reality right? What if that’s some weird version of space manipulation, like pulling it from another reality?

And red light is some minor time manipulation, allowing future vision and specific messages to be told in different times (like the isle intro)

[half shadow]

AHA oh my god their art is GREAT i love them so much they’re an icon and a legend

[boreal nebula]

Tried to relive Last Quest of SoAbyss

I failed, but the Mega Krill seems pretty white/grey skin now, even if it could be a deepth rendering

[keen shore]

INTERESRING…..

[rigid mural]

The sound when the screen flashes dark is super creepy, doesn't sound like regular human drowning...

[half shadow]

Yeah, we can’t actually get to the leviathan, just swim near them

which is a shame. I want to pat it.

I wonder if you can OOB to get closer?

[rigid mural]

I once got oob prying open an underwater clam whose opening faced inside the sand, so there's a way...

[formal skiff]

My friend knows a reliable place to OOB under the ground, which is how we visited our pal before the fourth quest, so I wonder if it still works to get near to it now

[vestal merlin]

Hi, lore chat. That‘s a bit different from what‘s just been discussed here, but what is known about boats in Sky? Because I‘ve been wondering about the boat statues on the middle island in Prairie‘s village, and the boat behind the Two-Player-Door where the Slumbering Shipwright is. The boats all are “broken” in half. From Talented Builder‘s memory, we know that the boats are put together from different pieces of material (stone? If so, how do they make it stick together?). So the boats still could be fixed or used again if they are just broken. But then why are there so many boats lying around broken in half? And why are those boats on the middle island standing there like statues? How does the hammering, that the Slumbering Shipwright does on the boat, work? Are they trying to fix the boat, or do they build a new one? (Sorry for the many questions XD)

[sharp lichen]

Don’t worry: lorechat is all about asking and answering questions! I personally think that the boats crashed when the Eden calamity came: it was a time of terror and apocalypse, so many boats crashed and broke. As for the Slumbering Shipwright, I’ll have to check on the cutscene to know for sure.

[nimble ingot]

no worries 🙂

Most of the boats seem to have sections to them. Whether that is to imply they are modular and can be made longer or shorter to accommodate the load is debatable.
Larger boats like the accountant's boat, the forgotten art, and the crabfield (shipwreck) boat in Wasteland; all seem to be made of one piece of stone. Perhaps larger boats have to be more stable and cannot be segmented, or the segmented boats are designed like that for a different reason.

The shipwright is possibly building a new boat, though it is interesting how the boat is segmented and he is carving into it. That is what the hammer and chisel is for. While the game cannot show the spirit chiselling on the boat, as in show the stone chip away, the motion alone does will have to do.

The reason why many boats are broken is unclear, all that one can tell is the boat would probably break if it fell from the sky. What could have caused it is uncertain, though what is certain is some of these crashes does seem fatal to the driver of the boat.

[carmine garnet]

Do you think sky kids can get sick? Or not feel great?

[sharp lichen]

For sickness, you need disease, which doesn’t seem to exist in the Sky world. Not feeling good is a different thing, since Skykids could have emotions (even if we don’t know)

[formal skiff]

sickness in terms of darkness corruption may be possible. we're not sure.