lore-discussion-spoilers

[hushed steeple]

How you feeling team anti breath?

[lyric isle]

suffering

it. it could just be an easy way to refer to it, it doesn't necessarily mean anything

at least explain the blinking?? pleeeeeease don't say it's natural. please don

[compact shale]

In pain dayo

[lyric isle]

the fact that it's officially called that
alexa, play 'denial unravelling'

[compact shale]

May I dm you a funny picture

[lyric isle]

may I see what said funny picture is

[compact shale]

I sent it to you before

It's the "I'm gonna call it bruno" pic

[hushed steeple]

[lyric isle]

i'm ok if this is just teasing fighting, i'm kinda concerned of a potential big debate about this,,,,,, i'm just over here slowly melting on the floor while clutching my headcanons very tight
(exaggerating this a bit, but h)

[compact shale]

If qg can't slap you should I slap you awake instead

[hushed steeple]

Nah man im too chill and too obsessed with a different lore game that just dropped a trailer yesterday to make beef.

Skykids could use hair for food for all I mind.

[thorny folio]

Learned blinking

[lyric isle]

but HOW
HOW DOES IT WORK

[thorny folio]

uhh eyes close? flaps built into the masks?

[lyric isle]

y yeah that's
that's what I believe
mask function

[hushed steeple]

hmhm

[thorny folio]

lil mechanics behind the mask

[lyric isle]

yes exactly

[tulip aspen]

not necessarily lmao

[thorny folio]

what. what do u think the lore reason is for getting rid of all the ice rink water ;-;

[tulip aspen]

that paint glows, and may not even be paint, we can see it kinda floats off of the wall, so the images on the ceiling of prophecy may just be magic illusions

not necessarily, the birb doctor from flight was carrying a first aid kit in the teaser

{ash i know its literally called a teaser but stop making us wish for a better sky than we get}

[compact shale]

to keep us from having a lore crisis with the new diving feature

but then again "breath meter" is causing enough of a lore crisis by itself so...

[lyric isle]

tell me about it

[tulip aspen]

i absolutely believe in the player projection theory and the mp is canon theory

a major theme of the game is being with friends, and not taking on this journey alone

in the concept art mp is canon, i have no reason to believe that's changed

[rigid mural]

Guys,,, we can drown now

[tulip aspen]

what game 👀

[compact shale]

mp might be canon, but it could be that canonically, only 8 skykids were ever sent down

you only need 8 skykids to open every single barrier that keeps you from accesing a spirit... so far

[lofty void]

didn’t i make a meme like this once 👁️

[lyric isle]

also hi if I talk about the Abyss water mechanics with strange language, that’s my way of describing as to not explode a lot of hard work of mine aaaaaa

[compact shale]

i like your funny words magic man /j /lh

[tulip aspen]

yes, it could theoretically work that way, we'll never know

[tulip aspen]

cos ppl are lame /j

i have very mixed feelings about it

one side of me wants to swim thru it like in abyss, but the other side understands swimming is extremely slow and would halt crs suddenly

[thorny folio]

I found evidence for the “breath” category
By the I mean the cloud that pops up when you get out of the water

[karmic ledge]

The first aid kit in the flight concept art was actually never intended to be a prop item (though that is a cute idea!). When we were figuring out the look of the spirits, their roles, and personalities, its helpful to add in extra items to the character lineup to sell the idea of who they were. Light Whisperer helps take care of the light creatures, so for that iteration my thought was they were holding a newly-patched up light bird and carrying around their supplies!

disappears back into the wind as I am still busy 👻

[compact shale]

Ash! You're here!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[lofty void]

ASH???

[lyric isle]

Hiya, Ash - can you explain th

[tulip aspen]

ASH IT WAS A JOKE I WAS JOKING IM SORRY AAAAAAA IM BUSY TOO TG U ARE TOO 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

[karmic ledge]

Th is a digraph in the Latin script. It was originally introduced into Latin to transliterate Greek loan words. In modern languages that use the Latin alphabet, it represents a number of different sounds. It is the most common digraph in order of frequency in the English language.[1]

[lyric isle]

can you explain this
does this mean skykids breathe or

[lofty void]

NOOOO IM TOO LATE

[lyric isle]

that is singlehandedly the best possible reply I could’ve gotten

[compact shale]

NOOOOO

Does the breath thing have any lore implications or is it just for the gameplay experience and not really canon?

"Sanctuary is a little different, we wanted to create a getaway vacation experience because so many of us have been in lockdown for many, many months. Not everything is necessarily official canon for this season. Though that can be applied to any season. Sometimes we need to break the fourth wall a bit to create good gameplay experiences. "

-Ktjn

(pings off)

[tulip aspen]

ash and i at work "👀 📱 ✋ "

[lyric isle]

The whole implication of skykids breathing could make my headcanons very fragile, can you elaborate on it?

[tulip aspen]

leave her alone guys I'm busy 🤣 🤣 👌

[thorny folio]

Hi Ash! Bye Ash!

[lyric isle]

we were👌 this close

i’m so sorry

[compact shale]

NERIUERUWERAFFHDNF ASH WHYY

[thorny folio]

Wait does this mean we can dive in any water source?

[torn swallow]

yesh

[lyric isle]

I just want an answer waaaa

[thorny folio]

Oooo

underwater whale watching :

[compact shale]

yes yes

end the crisis with an answer

[lyric isle]

uh…uhhhhhhhh…42

[frigid tinsel]

Of course I’m in class when Ash dips in

[tulip aspen]

i was literally in between sealing a wall so yeah thank goodness ash is busy

ash uhhhh you're free to come back in uhhhh 3 hours

you have my permission

[rigid mural]

ASH ???

[thorny folio]

staff SPOTTED

[rigid mural]

DID I JUST BARELY MISS ASH

[lyric isle]

people calling it breathing dig me deeper and deeper into the hole

[rigid mural]

[thorny folio]

It sounds like breath

[lyric isle]

stop saying that
m-maybe we should use a codeword

[sharp lichen]

BREATH IT SAID BREATH

[thorny folio]

#screenshots-and-videos message

[lyric isle]

what did

[sharp lichen]

The pact he notes

[thorny folio]

That video is unnerving but it sounds like the new mechanic makes skids breathe

Also it not optional which is. SO annoying that’s half my strategy in hide in seek :( also we have a heartbeat and can blackout ig

[frigid tinsel]

if skykids can breathe, than means they can drown, what does that look like?

[lyric isle]

dear tgc

please stop making skykids too human. it hurts the fun

THEY DON’T BREATHE STOP S

[thorny folio]

Click link

[compact shale]

Mass death in a bottle

the codeword is "Bruno" in case we shouldn't talk about it

[robust fossil]

Smort 👆

[thorny folio]

If skids are just clay vassals this mechanic makes less sense, unless it’s our bodies filling with water squeezing out light?

[lyric isle]

yeah i believe that

[frigid tinsel]

okay saw the video, saw no air bubbles. not really "breathing" if there isn't any gas exchange

[lyric isle]

apparently in the trailer there are ,, ,, , help me

[frigid tinsel]

me: okay fine i'll get the update
internet: you fool, you absolute coward

[compact shale]

they're light bubbles, just like the ones from Daydream's emote

The water is stealing our light and converting it into bubbles? just kiddign

[thorny folio]

But it sounds like you’re exhaling

[frigid tinsel]

but if water floods into their shell enough that it can push out light, then wouldn't they sink, not rise?

[rigid mural]

You hear heavy breathing when out of air apparently.

[compact shale]

THAT MIGHT BE UNRELEASED...

[lyric isle]

YOU HEAR WHAT
I BEG NOT

[white junco]

Kinda odd tho bc if you're underwater and running out of air, breathing heavily is the last thing you wanna do. So probably not the same breathing mechanics we have

[frigid tinsel]

lorechat out to drown skykids for science

[lyric isle]

please say you don’t hear the breathing

[compact shale]

Vela volunteered to sacrifice their non-existent sanity

[thorny folio]

Oh sorry! Pulled it from #screenshots-and-videos and it hasn’t been dinged yet but I’ll delete the message if need be

[lyric isle]

you’re now watching an episode of “voluntary has a crisis as its beloved headcanons crumble to dust”

[rigid mural]

@raw crypt do you still have that vid of your skykid sitting underwater

[tulip aspen]

they're breathing vol, I'm leaning more towards kami's point in a way but via Salem's reasoning of how the fire needs to breathe

[thorny folio]

It’s either breathing or a slowed heartbeat

[raw crypt]

HAIIII yeas i do

[rigid mural]

Thank you 💙

[hushed steeple]

[lyric isle]

hhvegxgdud bb h , g

[rigid mural]

Hey, we're not close enough for you to joke about that with me /nm

[compact shale]

f l a t l i n e

[thorny folio]

implications of bodily function….hrngsjhsgdbdn

[lyric isle]

i have no idea if i’ll be able to adjust to this
can’t ignore it at all. it’s the main focus of next season, and everyone will be discussing it

think about the pirate spirits. yar har har

[compact shale]

Only one lore crisis at a time! That's why they drained the Valley rink!

[white junco]

Valley rink already was inconsistent with the rest of the water and everyone was chill with that why'd they do that 😩

[lyric isle]

someone throw their unused enchantment ults at me

show me how to tie the turban

let me just
calm d own

[thorny folio]

eXACTLY

[compact shale]

where is thie from

is this in beta

geez be patient

#sky-memes message

[lyric isle]

please say that’s not what i think it is

[raw crypt]

its not! its live, breath is already in live it seems, its just getting urself under water (i used a table)

[compact shale]

BUT I THOUGHT YOU NEEDED TO MEDITATE TO DIVE

[thorny folio]

I guess not?

[white junco]

Table hijinks

[frigid tinsel]

i was going to drown myself but Home just looks so good right now

[raw crypt]

I used a table to get under water, no diving involved

[stark marten]

You can't dive yet, but it seems like if you are able to force yourself underwater somehow the mechanics kick in because they're in the code now

[lyric isle]

no I mean
that sound

[compact shale]

oh

i thought you were immune to extinguishment before you install dive software

[thorny folio]

Maybe you just can’t swim! So the breath mechanic is constant forced and the dive is separate

[sharp lichen]

The heartbeat sounds somewhat similar to the sounds made by the “Chest Pound” emote, maybe it’s mechanical?

[white junco]

Maybe they get a heartbeat bc it Sparks joy idk

[thorny folio]

That does Not Spark Joy that is FEAR

[compact shale]

I think that's just their candle pulsating when you're with someone/about to die

[rigid mural]

Spicy water sparks joy

[lyric isle]

i should just give up. i’m not allowed to have funny golem skykids, they’re supposed to be just like us so they’re more ‘relatable’ or something

i want escapism, not realism in my sky game

[compact shale]

*squeezes you in a hug

[rigid mural]

This detail isn't too significant, you can do fanfics or ignore that detail, nbd

[frigid tinsel]

skykids can still mimic or do certain functions while still being inorganic robots or golems if those processes serve a purpose for their functioning

[white junco]

The breathing mechanic is definitely different from how we humans breathe. Discussing Beta content is a no atm but there are details the season gives you that make it more obvious

[rigid mural]

inb4 Drowning Diver spirit /j

[keen shore]

I still think they’re golems honestly, I mean think of what we know about them already. They’re hollow, their outsides are Probably Not skin given we never bleed or anything, there’s glowiness inside, etc and so on

I’m at least 50% sure that’s not how human anatomy works

[compact shale]

You need more... oh no...

IT'S NOT LIGHT??? DARN IT

[keen shore]

They’re definitely not human, and they don’t seem organic in general, so the next best option is claygolem. I am just curious what the outside is made out of

[frigid tinsel]

i mean we do have a "Fainting" Warrior

[raw crypt]

I think some mechanics r there for the uhhh
idk the word im looking for. not experience

IMMERSION

IMMERSION, so like. the deep breathing or whatever is meant to give u a sense of unease to immerse u, skykids might not need to breath like we do and it might be more of a fire needs oxygen/pressure on clay/rock/whatever issue, but its that way for immersion or whatever, a sense of get to the surface again

[compact shale]

I hope it's just a gameplay thing that doesn't have any actual llore implications

ASH YOU WERE SO CLOSE

[keen shore]

THE FAINTING WARRIOR SPIRIT IS INTERESTING TO ME AS WELL because for the longest time I assumed they got injured and died from battle wounds because they’re called a warrior y’know? But with the revelation most weapons are made for bashing instead of stabbing things, and the fact that all their bones seem to be largely in place, I am revising the theory to starvation

[white junco]

Aren't there spears in the game?

[tulip aspen]

i mean yeah the heartbeat is immersion but at the same time its easy to explain it as the Flame inside pulsating

[frigid tinsel]

they could still be bashed and have internal damage. not all blunt force trauma wounds break skin

[compact shale]

internal "bleeding"

[tulip aspen]

i still think it's cos they got injured

[white junco]

Methinks they were injured and died too 💔

[keen shore]

This is true, although the spear head is so massive it’s hard to think you wouldn’t see ANY damage y’know. Sometimes I forget how humans work

The starvation theory Is possible because we know from stealthy survivor and the uh. Standing guy I forgot their name that there were still spirits doing their thing in wasteland after the disaster so it’s not hard to assume one would die from lack of food. What is interesting is that we see two spirits in combat adjacent situations - the fainting warrior and the lookout guy who blows a trumpet - but no one is actually fighting

This leads me to my main theory, the war in wasteland is a hoax /j

I need to leave and do the hidden forest mural list

[compact shale]

there's a comic for a headcanon that Fainting Warrior was trying to reach out towards the darkness plants in an attempt to eat them out of desperation or something like thAT

[frigid tinsel]

okay that bears the question of what would happen if you ate darkness plants?

[white junco]

We see spirits crushed by rocks in a cavein but we don't see the physical injuries on those being crushed. A. they're the spirits of the people and would probably reflect them as they were, not as they died and B. Sky is played by kids and you can't really show someone dying from a large stab wound in a game played by 11 year olds

[compact shale]

Edible alcohol?

[keen shore]

I get what you mean, I don’t mean adding injuries but no one is in an actual battle situation if that makes sense?

It’s probably not important I just wanted to make the joke

[keen shore]

okay so you know the third person who died in the tearful light miners memory where you have to burn away the darkness plant around their chest to continue? that’s probably what happened

[rigid mural]

Weapons can cause internal wounds, very painful, that and I doubt TGC would show us graphic stuff.

[compact shale]

sdfndsnfsdnfsn yeah prolly not

what if krill sneeze

[white junco]

that would make krill adorable little cats who just want hugs and I'd stand by that

[rigid mural]

Krill stops on their patrol to do a little kitten sneeze before carrying on.

[white junco]

I forgive krill

[rigid mural]

[raw crypt]

how have i never noticed the tiny face on that emote omg

[lyric isle]

currently brainstorming skykid headcanons with a friend and uh

we’re…getting to the can of worms

[fickle wing]

funky twin statue thing my belovef

[rigid mural]

Oh my god the krill mouth is so cursed

[lyric isle]

i just don’t want to lose all the ideas i have. they’re precious

[fickle wing]

inchresting how they’re holding up a diamond

[compact shale]

the worms in the can
that break people down

[rigid mural]

YES THEY !!!1! I HAVE A HEADCANON THESE CONCEPT TWINS TAUGHT THE SKY KIDS THE GROUP CANDLE THING
look at them banishing dankness away

[lyric isle]

fire needs oxygen.

that’s how imma explain it

[tulip aspen]

you should ask fruity about her headcanons 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀

[compact shale]

That fits. JAM I DONT HAVE ORIGINAL HEADCANONS ABOUT THIS WHAT ARE YOU SPEAKING ABOUT

[fickle wing]

in a samekh mood when it comes 2 concepts they’re kinda scrunkly
love how they got natural hair here

[white junco]

kinda forest-y vibes, esp the twin on the left

[hushed steeple]

One is strait up earth prophet hair

[tulip aspen]

THE
THE ONE ABOUT
A
A CERTAIN CHARACTER

[compact shale]

WHICH ONE

[hushed steeple]

Actually both of those hairs are in the current game

[rigid mural]

Left one is so Gender

[tulip aspen]

THE
THE ONE ABOUT

ABOUT A CERTAIN GOD

[white junco]

gender is stored in the sky concept art

[compact shale]

BREAD

[fickle wing]

honestly all the elders r gender
even daleth that’s a gender investment right there

[tulip aspen]

daleth has gotta be my favorite gender ngl

[rigid mural]

Geezers

[hushed steeple]

I don’t understand modern hip kid lingo anymore :/

[fickle wing]

swag old man

[rigid mural]

= we love their gender presentation

[white junco]

imagine how tall daleth would be if he stood up straight

[compact shale]

they look like the type who would wiggle dance

and their beard wiggles with them

[fickle wing]

scrambling to find the old cutscene pics cause they’re so silly

[lyric isle]

the round ayin next to that though

[hushed steeple]

I don’t understand- nouns are...uh...ok fellow hip kids.

[rigid mural]

Ayin is diagnosed with round since birth

[white junco]

ayin is round gender

[lyric isle]

very round

[rigid mural]

"Day Ancestor"

[white junco]

omg them

[hushed steeple]

Butterfly factory

[compact shale]

it looks like a chibi could fit inside their pot

[white junco]

it is probably big enough to hold several skykids because ayin is very big

[lyric isle]

this is the roundest drawing of ayin. I love

[white junco]

le friend

[rigid mural]

Serotonin is stored in pot

[fickle wing]

they can go even rounder

[white junco]

ayin bouncy ball when

[rigid mural]

Fool, they already are

[tulip aspen]

ayinposter

[white junco]

of course, a fool am I

[compact shale]

Ayinball merch

[white junco]

the serotonin is stored in the circle

[raw crypt]

ayin

[thorny folio]

Rotund

[lyric isle]

CIRCLE AYIN

[keen shore]

I may need help with some murals. Also no one gives me gender envy like the valley twins do I’m going to be honest

Okay I admit it Tsadi is a close second

[tulip aspen]

what's gender envy?

[keen shore]

It’s when you really want someone’s gender, or gender presentation

[rigid mural]

That's when I see the Forest elder and go "I wish people got this vibe from me".

[keen shore]

Basically the above

[frigid tinsel]

yea that. like "sheesh, they're so gender, they look the way I want to represent my gender, their look gives me gender vibes"

[thorny folio]

which ones?

[tulip aspen]

we all wish we could be as absolutely swag as teth

my favorite character in sky is actually random

its the sightseer from valley

[rigid mural]

THE PARENT
They are so cute...

[keen shore]

I just cannot seem to find the assembly map murals… do they generate after quest completion or something?

[tulip aspen]

that too, i wanna be looked up to like that some day

[keen shore]

I love the sightseer but my actual favorite spirit has to be the fire prophet. Non seasonal favorite I’m going to say is praying acolyte because I want to give them a hug

[tulip aspen]

but mostly they're relatable cos getting to the top of a place is an absolute mood

[rigid mural]

I love all the spirits except pleaful parent

[tulip aspen]

why pleaful

[rigid mural]

Because I have a grudge

[tulip aspen]

aiya is it cos they cook crebs

[compact shale]

I thought you were willing to sacrifice your sanity

[rigid mural]

Nah their memory is just super annoying, like hey gramps why are you dragging us across a krill infested area

[tulip aspen]

OHHHH nvm i get it ye

I still want some modern completely rewrite don't go memory to be about him trying to stop the Sun from going to war

[compact shale]

whoah why?

[rigid mural]

(I'm joking btw, pleaful parent is really cute with their guitar, maybe they feel bad their memory is so difficult to complete...)

[tulip aspen]

cuz that would be a deeper story ended the appealing and like Villa says actually relate to the mood of the place around me but instead he's just chasing a crap

[keen shore]

What about… the exact same memory but with people fighting a war in the background. The entire spirit memory is about them desperately trying to get their fresh crab back and not caring at all about anything else

[compact shale]

was that a typo

[sharp lichen]

WHERE IS THIS FROM I NEED IT

[tulip aspen]

yes Rudy I'm jogging again so I'm just using the voice mod

[keen shore]

My favorite animal the crap

[rigid mural]

Cackling at these two typos

[rigid mural]

Hate this animal... the crap

[keen shore]

They’ll get you next.

[tulip aspen]

eat this animal the crab

what the heck I meant to say crap that time and now it works??

[keen shore]

The pleaful parent should have this printed on their clothes like we would put it on a tshirt

[white junco]

kreb

[tulip aspen]

I swear I don't have a lisp guys

[keen shore]

Sorry Vela… you’re a house now

[white junco]

omg that kreb is so easy to break its kinda fun actually

[thorny folio]

oh yikes idk, I don't remember seeing any murals?

[keen shore]

I was sure someone posted them earlier, I think they were supposed to be in one of their shelters but I can’t find it anywhere

[thorny folio]

huh weird
is it in the main treehouse?

[keen shore]

You can run but you can’t hide… your time is coming, unlike the crab

Out of curiosity why are they called crabs? They kinda look like beetles or stink bugs to me

And egglet I’m not sure, it’s been really hard to tell from others’ screenshots & ive checked each location to find nothing

[thorny folio]

do you have any of the screenshots?

[compact shale]

Because the daily quest calls them "Dark Creature Crabs"

[keen shore]

I mean yes but why

And one sec I’ll get a screenshot

[rigid mural]

Water-dwelling crustacean

[compact shale]

how dense are crabs

[keen shore]

Here

[thorny folio]

found them!

It’s a map of the treehouse

Or not?

It has to be, at least where it’s general location is bc there’s no other bridge like that

[keen shore]

Yes I think that’s it! Thank you! Where is it, and can I use the photo for the mural doc?

[thorny folio]

it's in the treehouse next to the area with all the shelving! it's on the bottom floor so you shouldn't miss it

[keen shore]

Thank you ❤️ can I use your photo for the doc btw?

[willow prawn]

Hello! I've come to contemplate the chaos
Are we having a lore war or just civil discussion?

[rigid mural]

All I can say is that I don't think they are super smart either

[keen shore]

I think I have a crab brain because I totally thought they meant like… mass/volume dense and I was trying to figure out why or how that was important

[thorny folio]

sure! go ahead!
and if you need to find anything else lmk

[keen shore]

sitting here like “why do we need to know the density of a crab??”

[thorny folio]

launch

[willow prawn]

I think they're very dense, because in Sanctuary, the two crabs in the sunny islands walk in the sand between the patches of land, going underwater

[thorny folio]

Crabs do not float

[keen shore]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-yA8OdJ2NzwNc8c15sQB3UALYn3psT3c6mWgIV64jFM/edit Thanks to the help of egglet, all the murals in Hidden Forest, the Wind Paths, and the Treehouse have been added

[compact shale]

Minor topic discussion

[keen shore]

I was going to do valley & village of dreams tomorrow but… does valley even have any murals?

[thorny folio]

uhh…I have no idea. I feel like most of the storytelling is done in statues, architecture and spirit memories

[keen shore]

Yeah same, the only thing I can think of is the sparrow constellation thing in citadel

[rigid mural]

Yep, no murals there afaik. Did you find the jellyfish mural in sanctuary yet ?

[keen shore]

Yeah! It was really hard to find, I’m like 90% sure the jelly whisperer doodled it there knowing they weren’t supposed to…

[rigid mural]

Exactly

[keen shore]

Whenever someone enters the cave they stand in front of it trying to hide it without looking suspicious

[thorny folio]

Are you recording the clue murals from the season of sanctuary quests or no?

[keen shore]

Not currently, I don’t think they’re that important, but I may circle back to them later to be thorough

[willow prawn]

Btw! I don't know if the person doing the mural documentation already knows, but at least two of the symbols in the Treehouse map are also used in those zones for indication (the semicircle with dot inside and the kinda bridge-y thing).

You can even find the semicircle in the pots near the middle entry area (Forest Brook), while the bridge-y thing appears in a flag in the first tiny treehouse where Scolding and Baffled are

This one is the only one I haven't figured, because it looks like sunny forest with the gazebo? I just find weird they have it on their map I guess

[keen shore]

I noticed the semicircle pots actually and thought to myself “oh, I bet this symbol is on the map” and then,.. I couldn’t find the map.
I’m heading to that area probably tomorrow to see if I can match the symbols to anything but it’s too late tonight

[willow prawn]

It's okay! I had that doubt sometime before and the only symbol I haven't found is the half rectangle, so you should have no problems spotting them

Cool job, btw!

[thorny folio]

Went to go to the race to make sure there weren’t any markings and took a closer look at this

More paintings, mostly decoration, although the one on the pointy roof house intrigued me…is it to mark it as something important? Was that confirmed to be the post office?

There’s a similar design molded of gold

[rigid mural]

Lots of people researching tonight !

[thorny folio]

It’s fun :D

related topic: has anyone tried to make a doc about the different types of technology we see?

[tulip aspen]

waht
no topic in general was even happening

[tulip aspen]

omg its the post office

[willow prawn]

That's such a nice headcanon! Maybe we should check the markings in Postman again, they probably have the symbol in their uniform then

[peak pagoda]

TGC pls gib more crumbs of lore in the form of more wall writings and murals please. Give clues what happened to wasteland.

[tulip aspen]

btw there's a theme here in forest docking area about about the pots from prairie, (presumably containing butterflies and light orbs) in and out of the forest temple

i really like the touch of the boats leaving the tunnel where the mural of the forest temple is, showing the same boats with pota not only went to the temple, but also left, showing it was an ongoing commercial process

however exactly the butterflies and light orbs were used to help make functioning darkstone; it was certainly a mass produced process, and this tunnel does a very good job of displaying that
(tell me which dev it was we need to promote them)

also, i never noticed mural jellies

[frigid tinsel]

explain the concept of a post office to the illiterate skychild

hmm, who in-universe gives the spirits names? I always thought skykids at least nicknamed the spirits. cos the name "Peeking Postman" implies that skykids know what a post office is. did the Postman explain it to them? if so, why didn't they just tell the skids their name?

[tulip aspen]

the only illiterate ones are literal moffs
i still headcanon us lorechat folk are pompous sophisticated weirdos going insane over the history of the kingdom while the rest of the skykids are actually enjoying life

[compact shale]

Who gives them names? I don't think skykids actually remember anyone's name, the names are just gameplay necessities

[tulip aspen]

technically we give each other names, or tell others our names

[frigid tinsel]

well the skykids at least remember the spirits enough to be able to call them down. one way to help you remember someone is by giving them a name
at least if your brain likes to remember names in the first place

[mental ridge]

I have a question. Why is there a bunch of skykid's statue in Eden? Are they come there saving the previous statue and then die?? What happened there?

[tulip aspen]

we have no specific clue :)

[compact shale]

Yep. But back in Light Awaits they were implied to be your friends.

Pretty heartbreaking if you ask me.

[neat drift]

O

[compact shale]

O

[frigid tinsel]

O

[compact shale]

mmm let's not add spamming to the list of lorechat's crimes

edit: 3 is eenough

[icy spruce]

About that….

looks at the unbanning of elder names

[harsh pecan]

O

[icy spruce]

O

[neat flint]

P

[harsh pecan]

Q

[boreal nebula]

Maybe a ladder, yes, but... if they had a connection to scholars or Vault how someone once said (perhaps by guessing) they could have some degree of connection with telekinesis
After all the 4 Prophets in the last Quest Cutscene had a stance/animation similar to the Levitation Acolyte/Student

I have a will theory about this map ...

Rocket boots to reach stratosphere /j

[compact shale]

But you need... Boots... To make rocket boots

If you rocket without the boots part then congrats you cooked your legs

[boreal nebula]

Two small orreries and the one giant orrery in the center, mmm
(iirc just 2)

Which could be the two planets seen in the Game Credits, the ones some hypothetical called Sky and Journey (since they're colors could remember TGC two kin games) and the middle one Megabird

But that doesn't explain why they rotate without a precise axis, as it should be for planets

[boreal nebula]

He is a tough pal, he could withstand that... and if he can't, he could have used two pots as boots (either working as thermic insulation or slooow cooking his feet) /J

I'm totally in for function props. Back then even left a feed for that empty Assembly pot, asking to let store butterflies inside too, or asking for a backpack big enough to let us equip 2 props/items at once

Yeah, Projector Lantern would be could too (it maybe seems just another lesser Summer Event Lantern like the Assembly Spotligth, but....) imagine if we could put the plug the Memory Crystal from Wise Granpa inside that slot (please TGC, tiny bits of lore cool tools )

I would have envisioned a smaller boat, like the one Narcissist dance on it ||lowkey thought of it as a snowboard too: GO BOAT RACES, GO!||

[compact shale]

Yeah I sure do want that pot to spawn 1-3 butterflies (can't decide how many)

[boreal nebula]

I swear I even tried to put that spot directly under a swarm of butterflies in hope to see them enter it
Maybe I also used the emote

[tulip aspen]

i said that two says ago bruv xD do you really scroll back that far

[boreal nebula]

They changed alot of soundtrack or emote sounds of the Spirits, not even sure if intentional, but I remember their laughs and such were closer to the emote sounds we do
PS sorry for this ping

Imagine our surprise if we discover it looks more like a pebble than a rock

[nimble ingot]

Then I'll check with a magnifying glass.

[compact shale]

I just found out the rock doesn't actualy exist

[boreal nebula]

No, I try to keep up in chronological order, leaving markasread where I stop at the end of the day/an internet breaks 😅

[boreal nebula]

what makes you say that?

[compact shale]

someone told me lol

[boreal nebula]

I think that could be the slimplest way to explain the concept of "underwater pressure for long time can kill you, kids" that TGC can explain... I doubt even some grown teens/adults would be interesting in a lecture about pressure and crack on ceramic/clay bio-materials

[compact shale]

fire and water have always been mortal enemies. and we're not grease fires, that's for sure

[lyric isle]

yeah, that’s what I’m assuming it is

just hoping it doesn’t mean anything rather than being easy referral

[compact shale]

Getting extinguished + Gradually getting your body crushed = SUFERING

[boreal nebula]

Here is my wild theory: there are no mountains in sight that resemble the shape and slope of Hermit's Peek like the mountains on the left side of Valley Social Area (plus they might loseky explain why we don't see the citadel split mount among the seea of clouds, because its the tallest peek)

Sorry for staining your map with my scribbles @rigid mural 😅
||image coming soon in a minute, forgot to add ||

[boreal nebula]

Random thought, Idk if you know the old chinese/japanese folk tale about the carp who fought hard enough to climb a waterfall?

It's the tale that inspired the pokemon evolution of Magikarp into a Gyarados

||so what if the only creature we didn't think could become a Krill was the uselss koifish
||

[tight elk]

Oo that sounds great

[harsh pecan]

Oh no

[floral grove]

Wait so is this map telling me that the little tunnel that leads to the Village of Dreams from Valley's social area covers nearly the same distance as the social area to the Temple? Imagine how long of a journey that would be if loading screens weren't a thing

[compact shale]

we have too many icy rides

[floral grove]

My lord

Huh, weird, the caves and ravines of the sliding track in Hermit Valley isn't on the map

Has someone tried piecing all the current maps of the realms together to make a sorta mega map? I'd love to see that

[harsh pecan]

Yep, lemme find it

Theres another version of this, I just dont have it

[boreal nebula]

I don't know if I'm more disappointed with how these sticker turned out with the new update...
It's a bit more than what it was before... But still less than Assembly pillow (I at least prefer Xmas pillow, more cozy and joyful 😊)

[compact shale]

how many times can you duplicate it?

[boreal nebula]

With the TS bug the Earth prop was like this

4 duplicate in Shared Spaces back then, I had nothing else loaded on that shape

[compact shale]

come on

the duplication should be like 16 or something

the new prop is actually really good for making stone paths as someone said

[floral grove]

That looks amazinggg

[willow prawn]

Hi Lore chat! This is when you fly above the Bird's Nest in Prairie now

[boreal nebula]

Yeah, there could be alot of uses for a rock, for example, I thought it could have be:
a cool floating rock on which strike a cool meditation pose
a good way to add an extra step during a simple hike/parkour/climb
a good weightlifting tool like one of the Air Prophet pupil (tho in that case it's used to practice balance)

And you just gave me an idea too, lay alot of floating rock to play jumps from one to another, if only you could duplicate more

[thorny folio]

Is this not the plot of Klaus(2019)

[thorny folio]

Also that’s another question I have, are we allowed to analyze stuff from NetEase/the Chinese players? I saw they got some sort of canon map

[icy spruce]

Ye

also, lore chat pointed out a lot of mistakes in the map so uhhh

[grim python]

yeah that map doesn’t really make sense, why is muffin mound area behind prairie temple

[icy spruce]

And why is starlight desert at the right when it’s clearly at the left

[thorny folio]

ohh got it

[icy spruce]

ye, the map was wack

that’s why lore chat doesn’t take abt it (we don’t talk about the map noooo nooo, we dont about the maaappppppp)

[thorny folio]

that's why we make our own cooler maps (thank you Vela)

[neat flint]

Thank you for making the song stuck in my mind again

[icy spruce]

ehe

[compact shale]

I'M GONNA STICK IT INTO YOU ONCE MORE, YOU'LL SEE

[burnt cove]

Can someone please make a map that is correct and accurate.

[rigid mural]

Nah you're fine, this chat is free to use my map as long as they credit me !

As for the hermit valley, I didn't want to put it in a wild place that might confuse people either, so up to you where it exactly is. I put the little icon because like the citadel, it is hard to place (for different reasons).

[burnt cove]

@rigid mural your map is pretty cool.

[rigid mural]

Thanks, it was a pain to make.

[burnt cove]

The valley one is just perfect 👌

[compact shale]

Is Sky's lore really hard to translate? Or did TGC just forget to give their bible to Netease for some reason?

[icy spruce]

rip Vela’s hands O7

[icy spruce]

China’s lore is separate to Global servers which sucks cause like, CHINA HAS A LOT OF LORE???

AND WE’RE HERE WITH BREAD C R UMB S

[burnt cove]

For me the global is better:)

[harsh pecan]

Yea we’re practically beggars

[compact shale]

but what do you think happened ? maybe they didn't translate the lore bible?

[rigid mural]

Honestly the hermit valley could be even farther south/away from Eden even. Valley is kind of wierd in that you can't really trust Eden to use it like a compass, since its position changes or even dissappears altogether within the level. I feel like it is abstract and not even relevant to the map devs might have. Worth getting a ski resort angle instead (showing off height instead).

[harsh pecan]

Maybe

[rigid mural]

Don't get me started on that, I will be forever mad that TGC tells us important stuff relevant to lore like the flight qg being an apprentice outside the game instead of showing us within it.

[indigo zodiac]

May I ask what is this lore bible yall speak of
I'm new to the lore discussion

[rigid mural]

Hypothetical synthesis of all known and unknown lore that devs have access to/know.

[harsh pecan]

Oh welcome! The lore bible is basically a “book” that contains the lore of Sky, its very valuable to us lore-enjoyers

[indigo zodiac]

ahh
thank you!

[rigid mural]

We have lore docs here.

[compact shale]

It's probably a doc, and apparently skykid anatomy isn't important enough to be common knowledge among devs

Unless it really isn't that deep...

[icy spruce]

Imagine if Sky lore was rlly simple but we make it complicated kekw

[rigid mural]

Yeah, Sky kid anatomy probably isn't relevant. It doesn't influence our perception of the game much.

[compact shale]

idk how it became a common topic for us

[harsh pecan]

Because we dont know much about it ig

[burnt cove]

I am pretty interested in King Resh.

[harsh pecan]

What do you want to know about him? :D

[burnt cove]

His past and how he got corrupted by greed and power

[harsh pecan]

We dont know much about him, but he was most likely the Prince (Alef) who completed the trials as seen in the Prophecy murals

[burnt cove]

Alef? Huh

[rigid mural]

If the Sky lore really was up to our interpretation, then why do devs feel the need to come here and correct us ? When someone said they headcanon Rally came out as gay, why did Ktjn felt the need to say "oh no they aren't" (their words was that it's their headcanon but since they're a dev, we now got people using their words to shoot down others).

Like, on one hand I really like Ash lore beaning us because it scratches that itch and they're pleasant. On the other, it's kinda wierd how nothing within the game hints flight qg is prairie elder's former disciple. Or that krills are corrupted creatures (guessing that from their movements and crab ones really is a reach imo). And so on...

[harsh pecan]

Yes, his name changed

[icy spruce]

hmm

[burnt cove]

There is a saying right which says"Inside the king you will find the prince"

[harsh pecan]

Wow

[burnt cove]

I know about him a lot actually:)

Also I think he used to have a son his name was probably Aiden or something, I forgor

I don't really remember where I found that , it was a long time ago.

[icy spruce]

Hello and there’s no more water in the Valley rink

hahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahah, why tgc

[rigid mural]

Stuff I think is OK to leave to player interpretation: anatomy if it's not relevant, who was friends with who, life stories of spirits, their opinions and deeper identity, the final aesop of the game
Stuff I think is the job of the scenarist to show us: Plot points such as links between Elders and spirits important to a season's story

[icy spruce]

I am going to cry in the ice rink until it’s full

Oops, wrong reply (sorry Vela)

[rigid mural]

I headcanon spirits with elder masks are currently their apprentices; see the last vault cutscene where elders seem to teach stuff to spirits bearing a mask similar to theirs. So we do technically have a hint apprentices were a thing

[compact shale]

only one lore crisis at a time

if there was still water but we didn't start slowly dying then that would be another one

[nimble ingot]

frankly am stocked to see no spongebob water.
The world now makes that little bit more sense. 🙂

[icy spruce]

I mean in terms of lore is hooray but like

The water was so pretty and cool???

[compact shale]

baaaaaaaa :D

[nimble ingot]

Agreed, but then the candles practically defied whatever laws of physic that applies in the game.
perhaps that effect can return when TGC expands on the swimming sections and introduces an icy lake or ocean for skykids to explore, with that water effect.

[burnt cove]

The Flight guide is also an apprentice of the prairie elder.

So yeah apprentice is a thing in the game.

[fringe cliff]

To be coherent with the new season :)

[icy spruce]

Ik, the lore and mech but like NOOOOO

[compact shale]

Fire woke up and decided to be logical

Also one lore crisis at a time TGC can't handle 2

And Ash got close to concluding it too...

[burnt cove]

The water inside the ice rink was nothing but a illusion

[neat flint]

I noticed after the update sky kids can boost their swimming speed by tapping on the jumping button in water

there’s also breath meter popping out randomly

[nimble ingot]

That must be a teaser to the new swimming mechanic

[burnt cove]

I know about it from the beginning lol

[rigid mural]

Yeah but that's not something you learn within the game; it is in fact something we only learned here on discord. I should have been clearer and specified in-game hint.

[burnt cove]

Actually I saw that on YouTube from nastymold

[nimble ingot]

that and the twitter post too.
Though you are right, 80% of the lore (please, don't quote me on that. It is an estimate) is not in the game.

[burnt cove]

Yeah exactly

BTW guys I have a question, There was a wall painting in the sanctuary island the place where the jellyfish call spirit is, the wall painting was of the wasteland elder fighting with King Resh , did they removed it?

And in that painting the other elders were watching them

[rigid mural]

It wasn't supposed to be here; apparently it was remnants of Prophecy cave paintings.

[burnt cove]

@rigid mural fascinating, so is it still in the game?

[rigid mural]

I didn't see the vid but nastymold probably got that from the twitter bios yeah, who still aren't part of the game.

[rigid mural]

No it's not, been fixed into the jellyfish you see today.

[burnt cove]

Hmmmm as expected, Sad

Reality is always disappointing 😔

[rigid mural]

You can make your own headcanons, nothing disproves a conflict could have happened between the wastelands elder and the king !

[burnt cove]

@rigid mural I already have my headcanon .

[hushed steeple]

It prolly does not mean anything but he does have upside down king gates in his temple.

[nimble ingot]

down? which doors do that?

[hushed steeple]

They arn’t really gates at that point. Its just decorations on the ceiling of wasteland temple. Looks like the king gates in forest. But upside down.

[rigid mural]

That's what the elder uses to do their pull-ups.

[tulip aspen]

we can assume krills are corrupted creatures because darkness as a theme became more about pollution rather than an evil force
i had always stated that even before i/we heard the devs confirm it

however, this is why i was low-key salty about the character cards
they let ash have her fun but in the end the narrative team doesn't need to over-extend with using actual dev resources to storytell

tbf tho vela, spirits are given more and more personality each year, and even if it was only in concept via ash before, hopefully tgc will become confident enough spending their resources on a better narrative that they can extend these theoretical fleshed out characters into the actual game in 2022

i don't want to have hope, and i really shouldn't, but.... idk

[tulip aspen]

even if official lore disproves it people can still headcanon lol headcanon isn't a theory do AUs shine

[rigid mural]

Nothing within the game clearly tells us krills are corrupted, we can only theories and assume when we only have it to go off of.

[tulip aspen]

fruity is worried because we don't have character cards for abyss like we did for flight

maybe it's because im right and the characters will actually be dynamic and tell a story this time rather than just be wacky and fun

that's a bit too optimistic tbh ill admit

[boreal nebula]

Yesterday I found a Nastymold's video about some merchandise from the Chinese version of Sky so this probably will never get reproduced by TGC (because it doesn't have the rights in China

Anyway, it's very interesting, this drawing really simulates some concepts from Old Concepts (like the umbrella could have been a Forest Elder). But what is more curious is the drawing of the king behind the Eden pinnacles.
I cannot remember who once shared their idea of Eden Castle being in the shape the king

It seems the hanzi translate as:
"chasing a poem of light , on a period of golden age"

[frigid tinsel]

Honestly as someone who joined mid-SoTLP, having the character cards pre-Flight created such high standards for me that the following seasons may not live up to and that’s disappointing.

[tulip aspen]

aiya ofc we can't be sure, we can't and shouldnt be sure about any of the main themes, just because they confirm i was right it doesnt mean anything

in early conception darkness as a theme in sky went through multiple phases

1. rage of the light creatures / magical curse
2. an evil powerful force

we can look at darkness now and KNOW those themes don't exist anymore.
darkness as a theme takes on a much more subdued role, we dont see it being intelligent, just being a source of pollution, everywhere

that's why i knew i was right
i didnt need tgc to confirm it for me, but it did help for me to convince yall on a few of my takes on darkness and push us in the right direction about solidified themes (in contrast to nobody listening to me before that and thinking i was arrogant for saying my theory is correct lolol)

[boreal nebula]

Ps I wonder if there will be some creatures like these in Abyss

[rigid mural]

You can get stuff shipped from China, so there might be a way for one of us to get our hands on this. Hopefully someone not too worried about prices...

[boreal nebula]

As far aa I know it very unlikely. Or at least I think this are ment for mainland only

[rigid mural]

You're assuming, again, that people think you're arrogant. I wasn't replying because I simply had no idea how to, or didn't have the time to read a text wall 😛

[frigid tinsel]

Someone may have to get some connections from Chinese folk

[rigid mural]

Just get a chinese friend to smuggle washi tape for you

[frigid tinsel]

“Alright gang, I’m gonna call up my Chinese tape dealer.”

[tulip aspen]

no people literally told me i was arrogant or that i was trying to install more gatekeeping xD
they sometimes still do

i like it because either way it tells me my work is impressive enough to fuss about

[rigid mural]

My main point was that most of the things we learn outside the game aren't even looked at within; a random stay a home mother of 2 would have no idea who the king is or what krills are except agressive shrimps.

[nimble ingot]

I am still confused, I only know of doors that open by swinging, or being pulled up.
Even the ones in Wasteland temple, to my knowledge only go up, or just swing around.

There are gates that closes by going down, of course. Is that the one you mean?

[rigid mural]

Your strong suit is being extremely meticulous, but that entails also being extremely picky with your theories...
I just think you just need to loosen up when it comes to other people.

[tulip aspen]

yes, but krills being corrupted was already obvious

a random stay at home mother wi{wait what am i reading here xD} could know if she tried to understand

people dont try to understand the lore, therefore they never will

i like that.
it keeps the lore in a bubble, one that doesn't bother people but one people can easily enter if they just ask about it

people not understanding is usually more because they dont care, not because tgc isnt informing them

[amber night]

Anyone knows what is the deal with the bird eggs in Forest?

[hushed steeple]

No. Not gates. Things that look like gates uh hold on i’ll dig for GW temple pics

[nimble ingot]

Easter eggs, lol

[amber night]

So literal Easter eggs?

[tulip aspen]

nope, but i just noticed how nicely decorated they are

i headcanon the assembly scouts found those petrified eggs and just went to town with a white paintbrush

[amber night]

That's makes sense, my bet is on the Chuckling Scout lmao

[rigid mural]

Isn't that area called Eagle's nest ?

[hushed steeple]

Found one

[nimble ingot]

That one swings open, the gate sitting just above is either a decoration or possibly an opened gate.

[hushed steeple]

They surround the entire podium too I think. The ones above. Thats what im saying. They look like the lattice gates in forest. But upside down.

[tulip aspen]

yes when it comes to conforming I'm uh

literally on the spectrum my wandering mind would never let me

that being said I'm sorry for being picky and if i was rude at all during this discussion

its not something I'm always actively aware I'm doing so if i did, I'm sorry

[tulip aspen]

that's supposed to be an Easter egg?

[rigid mural]

No no I totally get you, I can tell you're not doing this to put down others.

[distant turtle]

Those elder images they use are real images from light awaits

[icy spruce]

Anndd welcome back to….CHAT GOT KRILLED! IM YA HOST! As always AND WELCOME BACK TO SEASON 2, EPISODE 7? OF CGK
HERE WE HAVE PAUL WITH A TOTAL OF 22 MINUTS THEY GOT 3rd? Idk man it’s almost 4 am and I have bad memory

ANNDDD THAT IS ALL FOR CHAT GOT KRILLED SEE YOU LATER AT THE NEXT EPISODE OF…..CHAT GOT KRILLLEDDD insert cgkoutro.mp4

[pastel brook]

Calculating the needed amount of sneep snorp for #lore-discussion-spoilers...

[nimble ingot]

oh no...

[keen shore]

I’ve been reading over everything that’s happened while I was gone but… if Skybot decides we need sleep does it just whack us over the head with a frying pan?

[nimble ingot]

does skybot take into account there are folks from around the world?

[hushed steeple]

Does it even matter because I'm tired at all times of the day

Also hi Raider

[nimble ingot]

Hi Mia 🙂

[icy spruce]

Oh hey it’s Mia, long-time-not-really-kind-of-maybe-long time no see

[hushed steeple]

Heylo ^^;
Life has been…well, crazy times with finals and such

[icy spruce]

oof, hope u pass and don’t forget to take breaks

[keen shore]

I’m probably going to redraw the wasteland saltmarsh drawing today because I’m bored and I am absolutely not satisfied with it. Also good luck in finals! I have my last exam today and studying and all has been crazy

[hushed steeple]

Just a lack of communication
I don't even know how long I have before next semester starts

Exams were done last Saturday

We might start again on Monday, but who knows

Also it's past 1 AM here and I'm just lurking around Discord to put off sneepytime

But I'm tired now

…Yes, thank you bot

[pastel brook]

snorp!

[icy spruce]

Have a poorly drawn cat and krill to comfort u

[nimble ingot]

If the Skybot is omnipotent, then it would be after me in 3 hours. Because it would be 12AM for me then.

[keen shore]

Judging by the size of the average krill, that cat is extremely massive and I fear him

[nimble ingot]

Chonky cat

[hushed steeple]

You become frens with that cat
No fear
Safety from the krills

[icy spruce]

Watch a video that’s boring

Or vc with people til u sleep or smthn

[hushed steeple]

I'm in a bit of an angsty mood rn for anything fun
I'll just lurk here for a bit and then go

[icy spruce]

Have a get resh’d vid since it’s funny (and will prolly lighten up ur mood :D )

[rigid mural]

I can play that song in sky lmaooo

[lyric isle]

I want to know the modelling software used

[hushed steeple]

High pitch ouchie

Thanks for the effort though

[lyric isle]

Get Reshed!

[icy spruce]

Have another doodle and sorry

[hushed steeple]

Okay, will go now
Thanks for the cozies, Lore chat ^^

[hushed steeple]

Aw cute
And don't worry about it :)

[nimble ingot]

RIP my poor earphones.

[icy spruce]

OH KING I AM SORRY, IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE ORIGINAL VERS AAAAA

[tulip aspen]

no because the only timezone is america /j

[nimble ingot]

no worries. 👍

[icy spruce]

Oh hey its 4 am, I should sleep

Adios people

[tulip aspen]

no it's 12 06 smh

[hushed steeple]

Smol lore crack HC

What if the krill were intentionally corrupted to win the war that destroyed Sky?

Okay Imma sneep now

[hard delta]

that's actually pretty possible

[distant turtle]

Miscellaneous Eden shots of some structures

[nimble ingot]

just to be sure, should eden related content be spoiler tagged?

[lime maple]

Did they replace the green light symbol or is it a bug rn for the daily quest icon?

[tulip aspen]

it doesn't have to be, but only in chats that say spoilers

[nimble ingot]

noted and thanks

[keen shore]

Pros of learning how to draw water so that I can use it in the redraw: I can now draw water
Cons of learning how to draw water: I don’t have the attention span to watch an hourlong video

[nimble ingot]

You can add that to the growing list of artist's problem's

[marsh rivet]

good evening lore chat, i was just having a good day, swimming in home space as i usually do and then i accidentally did the eight player puzzle emote in the water and saw that my skykid was grabbing it's chest while reaching for the candle! what could this mean !!?!?!?! is the main source of light maybe... the heart? but it touched too far to the right for it to have been the heart...

[nimble ingot]

Were you trying to use the candle while in the water, @marsh rivet?

If so, that may be the animation of them trying to take out the candle, which the water puts out immediately, and then the animation quickly switches to them putting the candle back in their chest.
That is what I see happens before the update.

[frigid tinsel]

Yea, skykids have a flame that powers them. It wouldn’t be inaccurate to describe it as their heart, in a way. We’re pretty sure skykids aren’t human so their anatomy would be different.

Their flame manifests as the light in the hole in their chest, but hold it as a red candle when outside of their body.

[nimble ingot]

perhaps, one can call it a heart's fire?
Either way, I agree with the skykids not being human.

I would like to compare them to Pinocchio's case of behaving like a child, and/or believing they are a child in some way. But are aware of them being different.
If not the wooden puppet boy, then the character Astro, the robot boy would also be an option.

[frigid tinsel]

Some people call them “golems” (often “clay golems” cos of the one theory they’re made of clay), meaning that they’re made of inanimate materials given life thanks to magic

So not far off from the Pinocchio or Astro boy comparison

[compact shale]

Yeah
Fire woke up and decided to be logical
Our fires aren't that magical

[nimble ingot]

Yes, I use that name in my notes.
The reason is how they imitate life, have stone masks and carry a flame that may be their source of life.

A golem in Greek mythology is a human creation that was brought to life with a flame that was once stolen from the gods (at least, that is what I understood the mythos is about). So, the skykid could be compared to the golem.

Even the mark given to golems to bring them to life, could be compared to how the default skykid starts out with a diamond on thier mask's forehead. The diamond symbol can be connected to the King, Megabrid and even the ancestors who use the diamond constantly as a part of their architecture.

[steep egret]

Moth statue in prairie?? What for?
Recently added I think

[frigid tinsel]

Not precisely sure yet if the diamond on the default mask is tied wholly to the king cos it shows up everywhere, including on the elders

[nimble ingot]

It appeared in an update near the end of last year and just stayed there since.

[steep egret]

Lmao that's weird. Just ONE random statue

[willow prawn]

It wasn't stated was it was for on beta. Like, it was stated, but no one ever saw it working

[frigid tinsel]

Golems also appear in Jewish folklore, specifically those golems were made of clay.

Honestly a lot of cultures have a “inanimate being comes to life thanks to magic or the gods” myths

[marsh rivet]

where is it ?? is it in beta or live? if in live, where exactly?

[nimble ingot]

It could be a way to summon a boat there that used to go around the village in Light Awaits. (It is still there and even ridable, but it is invisible)
Though that is just a theory.

[frigid tinsel]

It’s in Prairie, the area below the temple, on the middle island with the manta constellation. A winged light shows up there

[nimble ingot]

I am aware.
That is where the symbol on the fore head parallel is from.

[willow prawn]

So I guess they still have to implement the functionality...? Right now it only looks interesting I guess

[marsh rivet]

oh oh OH that!! ok ok THAT statue OOOH i always wondered what exactly it was

[coarse gate]

Hi guys what did I miss ❤️

[willow prawn]

So according to beta is for... ||Making friends or something like that. But it does nothing so confusion||

[nimble ingot]

not much, just idle chat

[steep egret]

O.O invisible rideable boat

[coarse gate]

Where in the village of dreams ?

[steep egret]

Just confuses me why they added this lol
All hail moth ig

[coarse gate]

What is that

[frigid tinsel]

No one knows

[steep egret]

It's a statue in prairie.

[coarse gate]

I’m going back to sky to check it out l will see what I find around

[nimble ingot]

not village of dream, my apologies.
The Village in Daylight Prairie.

It is under the island on the far left (facing the temple)
If you manage to get under the island, you will find an invisible platform with 4-6 candles to light up (may or may not be visible, but interactable).
When you manage to light them up, you will be able to ride it around the village. It even has invisible seats for you 🙂

[steep egret]

Wait so instead of removing it completely they just made it invisible? XD

[coarse gate]

I couldn’t find the village also yeah why is the statue there

I trued to interact with it but nothing was happening

[nimble ingot]

The village in daylight prairie is the area under the temple. Where you burn plants off 3 structures, the mantas come out and pick you up and where you relive, wave, clap and the laugh spirit.

[coarse gate]

But there was nothing there I went around the area but 🤷🏾‍♀️

[nimble ingot]

it is under the island, you need to clip through the floor to reach it.

[frigid tinsel]

Wondering if it’s just an unfinished build the devs forgot about that ended up in the update

[rigid mural]

Is there history about unused assets being used/reused in this game ?

[tulip aspen]

tgc be like that

[frigid tinsel]

"it's not a bug, it's a feature"

[abstract badger]

I love how skykids try to hold hands with these statues

It may just be a fun detail, but I figure that they symbolize some sort of guidance and protection??

Imagine being a brand-new child dropping into the world from the sky with no guidance and the first thing you see is a statue that looks vaguely like you.

[compact shale]

And then the statue grows legs and starts walking -

[neat flint]

The statue approaches you 💀

[boreal nebula]

If not a stone gazebo my guess could be that's granma's fire place (or atleast there could be a mark in that direction of the map)

What is your interpretation of the 3rd outpost/hut?
||mine is that's a tent, and I hope the pirate abyss map can confirm it when the seasonal area is unlocked||

[hushed steeple]

“My friend his name is Rocky”

[tulip aspen]

iirc dont they do it to walls in general?

[abstract badger]

Shhhhhhhhh it’s cute

[distant turtle]

Hey is that shimmer actually the Eden diamond?

[willow prawn]

I think it's indeed the stone gazebo in grandpa, but hard to say!

The 3rd outpost should represent the last treehouse but I search that symbol anywhere and got nothing so I just guess it symbolizes the place

[distant turtle]

I think it’s the first gazebo where the message location is. Main landmarks of the stream area. Just like the fallen tree shown from previous area.

[lyric isle]

offtopic but re: this

anyway, what gazebo?

[quartz mantle]

What if there was an eden king and he was one of the elders. Until he got mad for some reason and created his own realm into a place of suffering and hardship. What if eden king had some beef with the wasteland elder so the eden king sent some krills in there? And what if the krills are the eden king’s creation and what if he commands all the krills to make us lose winged lights so the eden king can have it all? And be the most powerful

And what if the 63 winged lights in eden were the sky villagers in the teaser?

Ok I’m done. I NEED LOREEE

[leaden grail]

then I guess he tricks us with some ascended candles so we will give our light to the statues. when we are gone he took the winged lights and put the statues back. thats why they went back every Sunday ig

[keen shore]

someone mentioned it earlier but skykids do this whenever they’re standing close to something, I think it’s one of the main evidences behind the theory of them having bad eyesight

[rigid mural]

swag concept art of the vault being a lift to eden

[hushed steeple]

...............I think I like dark purple cave under previously water filled valley ice rink.

[keen shore]

Man, I almost wish it still took us directly to the summit so we didn’t have to deal with the first two parts of Eden…

[willow prawn]

However, in the map, that area is represented by the semicircle with dot underneath (check in the treehouse, the pots above the entry to treehouse)

[distant turtle]

The semicircle with dot is the assembly outpost inside a hill. Outposts are in yellow on the scout’s map. General landmarks are in white on the scout’s map.

[compact shale]

Oh yeah, this mountain is filled with the leftovers of the souls of the damned. Don't mind the occasional whispers and screams if you hear any.

[frigid tinsel]

also consider kids like touching stuff.

[ocean saddle]

[icy spruce]

this confirms that at one point, skids co-exists with ancestors æuh

[compact shale]

I mean, alef was a skykid, right? maybe this is civilian alef?

in all seriousness there are caped ancestors it's just as likely that the statue could be depicting one

[icy spruce]

True kekw

[compact shale]

*statue grows legs and starts walking

[nova geyser]

Someone drilled a hole a la Lake Peigneur so the ice stuck around while the water ollie’d out

EDIT: OH NO I DIDN’T SEE HOW OLD THIS MESSAGE WAS SORRYYYYY

[nova geyser]

My vote is they’re giving their core muscles a break since they’re constantly planking while flying ;p ❤️

[thorny zealot]

They give us seasons but no actually storyline.

[tulip aspen]

we don't know the prince was a Skykid, just a being of light

[frigid tinsel]

i literally, uh, wrote about this for an assignment

How Thatgamecompany (TGC) handles Sky: Children of the Light reflects the prominent trend in the gaming market to use video games to draw out money from players. Rather than focus on gameplay and plot, in-game events try to convince players to make in-app purchases –– promoting cosmetic items that cost real money or so much in-game currency that players spend most of their time grinding, which they do in the face of a dearth of corresponding gameplay. Sky draws in players with the promise of a story in a world dressed in impressive graphics for smartphones. Yet in-game characters lack personality, acting as mannequins for the cosmetics, and the world’s story appears to be shallow after digging deeper. Instead of relying on money-wrenching capitalist tactics and digital souvenirs, TGC should improve the development of Sky’s plot and lore to maintain a committed playerbase.

[compact shale]

Did you just roast TGC for school?

[frigid tinsel]

yes

[compact shale]

I... Hope you got a good grade?

[frigid tinsel]

to clarify: I love this game, just I had to write a critical response to any entertainment media and had been ruminating on this discourse so my frustration & disappointment as a lore enthusiast took over.

[frigid tinsel]

i won't know until Tuesday, I submitted it two hours ago.

[compact shale]

YOU MADE THIS A FEW HOURS AGO?!

[frigid tinsel]

yes

[thorny folio]

Swag essay my dude pop off

As much as I liked season of flight it was too cosmetic driven and lore wasn’t introduced naturally if it all. Like why are there spirit character bios with vital information being posted on Instagram while none of this is being portrayed in the game? I.e. the flight guide being the former Prairie apprentice is apparently very important context but if I didn’t follow the sky account I would have had no idea

[frigid tinsel]

gosh i forgot to mention how more detailed lore isn't available in-game

[thorny folio]

Honestly the seasons with murals have done way better explaining things(enchantment, prophecy) except for maybe like Dreams? But in dreams the quest giver also sort of talked to you

Plus the end cutscene was reeeaaallllyy detailed

[keen shore]

Redrawn saltmarsh golden wastelands complete with reconstructed architecture. My wrist is killing me and it’s all because of that water. I’m glad I did it though because I learned a lot and I’m way more proud of this one

[thorny folio]

YOOO

[frigid tinsel]

Omg this is stellar

[keen shore]

Thank you, I never want to draw water again

[thorny folio]

I like the signature

[keen shore]

THANK YOU I WAS HOPING SOMEONE WOULD NOTICE

I thought about doing a stormy sky but I thought it would be cool to see what wasteland looked like sunny plus it was easier

These were my two main references, you can see I basically traced the first to make sure the geography was perfect because I am very much a perfectionist. Plus a lot more screenshots of the broken temple, bridges, etc

[frigid tinsel]

i think that's the bit i like the most about this – there's this bittersweet nostalgia looking at a sunny, golden "Wasteland" when the Wasteland we know is clouded over and a sickly green.

[keen shore]

YEAH I wanted it to look happy and like a normal beach, yknow? Somewhere you could totally see existing in our world. I felt like that would make it sadder

Now that I’ve had to draw a detailed ocean I am going to go to the season of abyss location and attempt to battle the ocean

[keen shore]

I’m glad both of us took hours out of our lives to create something out of sheer spite

My next project is probably going to be reconstructed Citadel because I REALLY want to know what that looked like, if I can get the courage to attempt architecture again

[frigid tinsel]

architecture is a pain

[keen shore]

I can’t decide if I hate it more than water or not…

The VOT mural update will probably be tomorrow because of that art piece

[tulip aspen]

d a mn

[compact shale]

Twas made for school too

ROASTING TGC FOR SCHOOL PURPOSES (NOT CLICKBAIT)

[tulip aspen]

yes, truly a burn
I'm sure the directors are wiping the tears out of their eyes with the 10 USD you give them every 3 months

[frigid tinsel]

i've only ever had one adventure pass and it was gifted to me

[burnt cove]

BTW Skykids probably have the ability of echolocation right?

[frigid tinsel]

yea, that's what I've been leaning towards.
note this doesn't mean they're blind, it probably supplements their other senses

[burnt cove]

Also Skykids can use their deep call like a sonar

[nimble ingot]

That is adorable.
Skykid although do that when they are near any wall. Which js a nice little detail to show the skykid does react to things.

That and/or, the game is trying to tell you the skykid cannot get any closer to the wall, so touch the wall as if the skykid is either leaning one it, or trying to push it.

lol, imagine if skykid van push things around. That would be so cool in a puzzle or even a mini game.

[burnt cove]

I want that to happen

[compact shale]

I have a conspiracy theory that in the future, they will have puzzles that require you to pick up and use crabs to weigh down buttons. That's why we can pick up crabs. It's just a future mechanic they put in early.

[burnt cove]

BTW when I first play sky and I was like jumping on objects especially in the bird nest it feels like I was playing Assassin's Creed lol

[frigid tinsel]

yea, that's the problem – this model works. even if the game had a high turnover of players (and I think it does), if you get a lot new players and a lot of them put money in the game, even if they quit, you still made a profit, so no need to invest so much in plot and lore.

[burnt cove]

Now I jump on top of the houses in the village of dreams lol

[nimble ingot]

There is but I will have to wait for the season to start before pointi g it out ;)

Other than that, I suppose one other example could be, the granny dinner from the end of the season of belonging being used as the basis for the wax event in Sky. Which brought back the season guide.
I was not part of light awaits, but am able to see some parts of the game through old playthrough videos and screenshots.

[burnt cove]

I think tgc should put some climbing animation, it will look cool.

[nimble ingot]

oof, that burns.

[burnt cove]

Damn that really burns

[nimble ingot]

fun fact.
Journey did have an early concept about the traveller being able to climb walls.
But then when the arms were removed to imply to the player they cannot attck. The climbing mechanic went away too.

[burnt cove]

Wow

[compact shale]

they should've given the scarf grapple hook functionality to compensate.

[frigid tinsel]

climbing skykids would look cool, but i think it'd be redundant in a game where everyone has the ability to fly. sorta. say if you run out to wings flying up somewhere, if there's a cliff or a steep wall, you should be able to climb the rest of the way up

[burnt cove]

@frigid tinsel yes that's what I want.

[compact shale]

What if you could hold the companion player in Journey... by wrapping your scarf around their foot and then dragging them along that way

[burnt cove]

You know they should add dark creatures that rely on sounds and also a stealth mode so we can avoid those types of creatures.

[compact shale]

What if we had a cape that turned us into a rock

[frigid tinsel]

something something The Warden in Minecraft

[burnt cove]

@compact shale a cape that can make us invisible for a small time.

[frigid tinsel]

that sounds like it could be a spell

[burnt cove]

@frigid tinsel good idea

[exotic summit]

My theory:

Sky is basically a planet humans had inhabited when Earth got too polluted. The capes and masks are futuristic equipment used for breathing on the planet and navigating it. Skids are humans that were put into cryopreservation in case something happened to that planet and some people were needed to repopulate it. The humans started out by building simple tent settlements (Isle in Switch trailer), then to villages (Village of Dreams), then to massive citadels and castles (Valley), then to factories (GW). There were two groups, one that wanted the planet to stay that way, and the other that wanted to use the technology of the old world (stored in Vault) The crystal in Eden was a sort of last-ditch energy generator that eventually malfunctioned and turned Eden and Wasteland into their current state. Krills and krebs were wildlife that lived in GW and Eden that mutated due to the crystal malfunction.

[nimble ingot]

climbing would still be a welcoming feature fkr the very reason you mentioned.
No light, no flying.

After playing for a year, I recall getting stuck in holes and forced to go home no more than 15 times. And being forced to backtrack or find a way to charge many times.

One thing I noticed in the game is how some places, it is easy to fly, so it is light hearted. But when it gets hard to fly in other places, it suggests conflict and a challenge for skykids to overcome.

[burnt cove]

@exotic summit it's a fantasy game not a science fiction lol

[exotic summit]

It's kinda a metaphor lol

[compact shale]

for L A I F E

[burnt cove]

Skykids are not human , little prince is

[frigid tinsel]

you can have science fiction that appears to be fantasy or even science fiction and fantasy co-occurring (see: Steven Universe).
thinking about it, that's probably what Sky is

[compact shale]

Since when is TLP human? Aren't they a different humanoid alien?

[burnt cove]

@compact shale no

[nimble ingot]

science + fantasy = steampunk

[frigid tinsel]

in the book The Little Prince, it's uncertain whether the Little Prince is human or not, but given he's from an extraterrestrial planet, he's an alien at least by technicality. also he can travel through space without the need for oxygen so

[burnt cove]

Skykids are made up of Charcoal,clay, ash and have pure light inside there body and they have no organs it's completely hollow and have a protective shell that protects the red candle and there soul.

[frigid tinsel]

that's the theory, not confirmed tho

[fiery tapir]

but Adults do exist so that’s cool

[compact shale]

the "no organs" is currently on a Merry Crisis

[exotic summit]

I think they at least have lungs

[burnt cove]

Also I think that the heart beat sounds are coming from the soul like in transformer beast wars

[frigid tinsel]

huh, never considered it could be from their soul. the popular theory is it's from their flame. another possibility

[burnt cove]

In transformer beast wars cybertronians have heartbeat sounds too but the sound is made by there soul

[nimble ingot]

The story is a bit whimsical.
As if told by a child. Children would play pretend that theh can do half of the things the Little Prince did.

So, at least as far as the book is would suggest, the Little Prince is just a little boy, with an imagine that knows no end.

[burnt cove]

But I think when skykids die there soul stop beating

[compact shale]

Sometimes, analyzing Sky's lore is like trying to analyze a book written by an author who died. You can analyze all you want, but there is almost no hope of figuring out if you're right.

H a .

[burnt cove]

I see some similar stuff between Skykids and cybertronians although both belongs to different franchise and a completely different universe

[nimble ingot]

What would the dark room after dying signify?
A soul reuniting with the body?

If so, the the heartbeat coming from the lightkid would be the skykid's own soul taking the form of their former selves.

[burnt cove]

@nimble ingot that's a nice theory

[nimble ingot]

That, or the author faked his death and is pretending to be someone else that happens to found the work and is publishing the work on their behalf.

[compact shale]

Where did THAT come from?

[frigid tinsel]

idk mate, anythings possible, humans are wack

not allowed to discuss beta things here until it's in live, please delete

[frigid tinsel]

my theory is that that room is what it's like to be conscious yet dead. well "dead." I'm not denying that darkness probably kills, but the exact process that occurs with skykids and spirits looks like petrification, freezing by converting into something else. so really, the dark room is what it's like being conscious but petrified by darkness, hence why it's so dark.

[fierce vector]

Damn i see now

[torn venture]

a sky kid never truly dies yea?

[frigid tinsel]

debatable

[fierce vector]

Hey guy, is it just me or does the bird spirit? (The spirit that yeah, gives the bird chirp voice emote or something idk...) Looks and sounds similar to granny? As in their like... Related if not... Possibly the same person? Like even their hair matches one another... Crazy isnt?

[harsh pecan]

Ah yes, hair logic

[fierce vector]

Their voice too lol~ pretty similiar lmao

[compact shale]

Gran doesn't have an assigned voice. They just imitate who last honked.

[fierce vector]

It feels like we just saw how granny looks like when she was in her youth or something-

[fierce vector]

Dang, :v my theory got debunked ohh well atlesth i could now rest in peace

[harsh pecan]

Why tho

[compact shale]

because HONK

[fierce vector]

Honk?

[frigid tinsel]

granny's the king, remember? they can do whatever they want /j

[harsh pecan]

Oh I totally forgot about Granny’s status, my bad

[fierce vector]

Dang granny should've been a queen lmao

[torn venture]

oh can u guys elaborate on that

[compact shale]

I know that other spirits can appear as part of a spirit memories, but I don't think it's likely that 2 spirits could possibly represent the same ancestor. Idk tho, ask Ash

[fierce vector]

Wheres ash?

[frigid tinsel]

technically there's no gender in Sky so to represent that i refer to everyone with they/them pronouns and go wucky wucky with the terminology.

[compact shale]

☁️
☝️

[fierce vector]

Huh... Soo do they reproduce? As in those older spirit?

[torn venture]

ookay ty

[frigid tinsel]

gender ≠ sex
and no, i will not go into the reproductive properties of Sky people.

[fierce vector]

Huh i see... I see that i dont understand... Im dumb gomene~

[torn venture]

i don't think it's possible to reproduce as our origin is from light technically

light can reproduce in a way

[frigid tinsel]

and this is where i exit the conversation. goodnight lore chat

[compact shale]

That's in OUR case, but we don't know about ancestors.

If they're also born from the light, I imagine this is how relationships work.

Megabird is made of many constellations. If 2 ancestors are born from stars in the same constellation, they are destined to meet and have some sort of significant relationship with each other.

[torn venture]

ooh yeah that's cool

[fierce vector]

☁️

[torn venture]

maybe each constellation represents a new era or some sort? just guessing

[fierce vector]

Huh... A new era.. Why dont get our own era then?

[harsh pecan]

I’m not sure about that, cause there are constellations for the realms and friends, which aren’t new eras

[torn venture]

ah true

[harsh pecan]

“Our own era” is probably the current era where the Sky kingdom is populated with skids

[compact shale]

I think we have our own era. But the seasonal constellations don't represent eras, just the basegame ones. The basegame ones represent the subjects its corresponding elder rules over ig.

[fierce vector]

Or maybe just home?

[fierce vector]

Interesting

[compact shale]

As for our era, we know we're supposed to ascend the spirits, and that we haven't found them all yet, but we don't know what will happen after that. Not even the concept timeline covers the post-skykid future.

[nimble ingot]

Cool.
I was thinking she was like a Queen.
I guess I was wrong.

[tulip aspen]

i still think that moment is a mindspace

[tulip aspen]

we see petrified ones all over eden, all of those statues are very likely skykids

how exactly that works or what it means remains to be seen however (we'll never know and there is no story)

[compact shale]

We don't know if it's the previous generation NOW, but we do know that in Light Awaits, it was your friends. Though you could make the argument that they're still your friends, but truth is we don't really know.

Ash-sama... /hj

[tulip aspen]

its likely more of a fun thing than a lore thing, she just likes pretending she's cool like all these kids and do what they do

(which is so funny because that's what moths are doing when they see spirits use emotes)

[compact shale]

Hey fellow kids, is this a good impression of the new honk on da blocc?

[tulip aspen]

nah, we've all asked these questions before, dont get too worried because it's really understandable!

[burnt cove]

Sooo Skykids have no gender?

[tulip aspen]

ah yes that moment where ash casually tells us the ending of the lore bible at 11:31 at night

nome of you mention ur timezone it's 11 31 for ash and i smh
(unless ash doesn't live iby tgc office?? 👀 )

[compact shale]

Istm Ash does not sleep

[nimble ingot]

Personally, skykids can be genderless, and then identify as either gender. Thus making them easier for the player to associate with their player character.

[burnt cove]

I see , also Sky kids are not human right? Because they may look like us but they are really different.

I hope they are not human.

[compact shale]

Hahahaha. Sorry, skykid anatomy is currently on "Merry Crisis!" mode rn.

[nimble ingot]

yes.
Like Pinocchio, they may look like a child. And in Pinocchio's case, may be a boy. Though only in appearance (clothing and hair) and behaviour.
If there were to be another puppet, the puppet can decide to be a boy or a girl, even if the body itself does not show it.

Children of different genders tend to look similar to each other, especially when they are younger. Which makes it tricky to confirm a baby's gender at a passing glance.

[tulip aspen]

they aren't
here's a statement document i made a while ago on skykid anatomy via the most widely accepted theories
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1thcKlrpEPO87cz0hgM5rbMZilC97-2chVEe7uC7WI0c/edit?usp=drivesdk

[burnt cove]

@tulip aspen thanks for the information

[tulip aspen]

remember, it's just theories, but for the mostpart commonly accepted by most people you'll see in here

||fruity what di you say||

[burnt cove]

@tulip aspen hmmm this is acceptable, nice document👍

[tulip aspen]

danke shen

[burnt cove]

BTW I think sky kids also have the ability of bleeding effect.

The bleeding effect must helps them to learn there ancestors expression more quickly and efficiently.

[compact shale]

Table

[burnt cove]

Although the bleeding effect is actually from a another game

It really doesn't exist in real life tho

[tulip aspen]

bleeding?

[burnt cove]

But I think it's possible that sky kids may have this unique ability that helps them to learn stuff more quickly and efficiently.

[tulip aspen]

what kind of ability might that be

[burnt cove]

It's from assassin's Creed actually

[nimble ingot]

genetic memory?

[burnt cove]

@nimble ingot yes it's like that but for Skykids it's kinda different

Skykids don't use genetic memory of there ancestors they do it differently

[compact shale]

"their" ancestors?

[burnt cove]

In assassin's Creed the main characters uses a machine called the animus to view the memory of their ancestors and if they have the bleeding effect they can actually learn things from their ancestors instantly, like there fighting moves or acrobatics.

[compact shale]

are they actually bleeding out blood?

[tulip aspen]

i think its a figurative bleeding fruity

also thats a fun comparison goat

[burnt cove]

No they don't bleed actually

[compact shale]

hahahaha

imagine if you were just walking around bleeding out your blood

[burnt cove]

@compact shale the bleeding effect have it's own side effects tho like the person will start hallucinating things if they stay too long in the animus and it can make them go crazy.

[compact shale]

oof

[burnt cove]

For Skykids tho it's completely harmless

[tulip aspen]

wowowawa

[burnt cove]

I am not sure if Sky kids actually have the ability of the bleeding effect

But if they have it then it's really cool

You guys should check out assassin's Creed it's really good

[nimble ingot]

yeah.
Blackflag is cool, and just got rouge 👍

[burnt cove]

@nimble ingot cool you will love origin and Valhalla too.

[nimble ingot]

played a bit of origin, valhalla will smoke my poor pc.

[burnt cove]

BTW do you think that our ancestors memory are genetic memory?

[tulip aspen]

guys look I'm drowning running out of air

[nimble ingot]

I wonder....

[compact shale]

The table exchanged its ability to move spirits for its ability to slowly kill us

is it a good trade?

[tulip aspen]

this isn't an exchange

its an upgrade

[nimble ingot]

It is not a bug, it is a feature.

[tulip aspen]

i mean

it quite literally is a feature

[compact shale]

mmmmrrwrrwrrrrwrrrrrwrrrwrrrrrrrwrrrrrwrrrrwmrwrrrwrmrmwrmwrmmrrmrmr (skykid cooking pot noises)

OMG I DID IT

IM TAKING ON DEATH WITH A RECLINER

[pastel brook]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/593565781166391316/832872714967842826/Untitled90_20210416150354.png

[nimble ingot]

blub blub blub

[compact shale]

Begebehwbehbebeurrbrurbrurbrbrbrhembbrrurbryrybrhyryrrr

[hollow turtle]

"In their travels, the rock discovered a brand new vista of floating islands. It seemed like this area was a haven for Light creatures, and the rock was happy to watch them dance through the sky. Whoever lived here must have loved the creatures a lot; they even crafted chimes so the wind could sing with the birds and mantas as they passed through."

from the last patch notes 13.1.22 (https://thatgamecompany.helpshift.com/a/sky-children-of-the-light/?p=all&s=patch-notes&f=patch-notes---january-13-2022---0-16-0-182597&l=en)

I guess it is talking about the rock we destroy in the last quest of Season of Flight?

[hexed silo]

but the rock has been on patch notes way before that

[compact shale]

also the rock apaprently doesn't actually exist

[nimble ingot]

there is one way to find out, I am in the area and on the look out.

[hexed silo]

wat

[compact shale]

idk pal

🅱️risk

[crystal jasper]

I like to think that the reason why it takes 20 hearts just to get rid of a skykid's mask is the mask is our face, and it's basically plastic surgery but no plastic, after the surgery all the masks we wear are just regular masks

[compact shale]

Proud Victor or whoever gives the no-mask: Trust me, this plastic surgery is DEFINITELY legal!

[nimble ingot]

ok, update. I had a look through the flight season area (especially where those chimes are) and no rock 😦
I either missed it, because I was not sure what the rock exactly looked like, or there is no rock

[harsh pecan]

So do they just like cut it out-

[crystal jasper]

It will probably be like pull the face out with brute force then let it heal itself or some sky logic
I think it will be like that one broken arm of yours

[compact shale]

Trust me, this plastic surgery is DEFINITELY legal!

[harsh pecan]

Thankfully skids arent humans, they probably wont feel the pain of pulling out your own face

||This isnt true but what if the reason why our eyes are closed after we remove the mask is because we no longer have eyes||

[crystal jasper]

Omg, now it's all make sense, we're all blind, that's why sky kids always touch things when they're near and have such great hearing

[compact shale]

Raider, what's with that?

[nimble ingot]

I am vehemently against skykids being blind.
I accept folks can and do have their own opinions, interpretations and theories in sky.

Skykids do have eyes, they can see where they are going, even if they need a bit of light or echolocation to get around. Skykids without masks are not the only kind of skykid with their eyes closed, mind you. Unlit skykid, have their eyes closed and even some masks let you see the face with their eyes closed.

The eyes are closed could mean different things.
1- sure, blindness is an option, but not a viable one given the above reasons.
2- an aesthetic choice since a skykid with eyes might look odd compared to the face with their eyes closed.
3- Possibly squinting, though also not a strong case.

Even if a skykid is supposedly blind, would they be able to read a mural? How can they read a message? How can they seek out the light? How can they tell what colour cape they are wearing?
All of that aside, sure skykid could be blind, though that could be chalked up to roleplaying, fanon or a head canon than a common theory.

[crystal jasper]

Ah, so this is how my theory died, at least in peace👁👄👁

[nimble ingot]

ey, it is a fun fan theory, I wont slaughter a fan theory.

[twilit blade]

Didn't know that Dwayne Johnson was in Sky! Good for him 😎

[boreal nebula]

The Tent Prop is just made of 4 sticks and a horizontal cloth. So I guess it could be a representation of that, despite being too simple to guess. If there will be one in Abyss as marked on the map I could get a confirm

[boreal nebula]

To me it seems to much forward to be the meditation spot of the brook (it should be closer to 2 outpost, i guess) plus there could be more around the map like in all forest

To I hope that distance and the angle might mark Belongings Table or rather the fireplace (if only there was a tinie tiny flame there I could be 100% sure)

[boreal nebula]

It is wpnderful and a dead serious safe for a Vault

Though I once reached the top of GW temple from Battlefield with the (now patched) table drive (actually got there with a hammock😋 ) and I could see giant stones/bricks in the distance

Plus in the murals about the 6 Temples in the hall of Isle Temple you can see Vault depicted as a tower with a sphere on top (same sphere you can see in Eden Social Area. Thus I think Vault is just a tower nowor at least mostly a tower kput+carved on the mountain)

[distant turtle]

First outpost symbol represents the platforms attached to a tree. Second represents inside a hill. Third represents that it’s a tree stump.
The outpost symbols are in bold yellowish ink, while the other scenery is all in white.

[boreal nebula]

Idk... IMHO devs seem to have take some artistic choices to better suit the color patterns in the upcoming season. Maybe blue wax trails would look better in constrat with some bright underwater creatypures/plants (dim orange on shiny white could be hard to see)

They already removed water from the Ice Rink to dont let us drown there (debunking the theory we could stay down there as long as we wanted bcs skykids dont breath) so allow me to think there could not be a meaningful lore clue for that wax 🟠 🔵

[pastel brook]

orange you glad I didn't say

[nimble ingot]

🧀

[thorny folio]

He’s an avid sky player

[thorny zealot]

@frigid tinsel I do really think we need more gameplay, and more of a deeper story. The game already has lore, and they could really expand on that.

Good luck on your assignment!

[compact shale]

We need puzzles where we use crabs to push buttons

[twilit blade]

Mmm yes, the torment of crabs

[burnt cove]

BTW guys I just went to the new map with a friend, it was crazy.

[nimble ingot]

lucky, how did that happen? o.o
(Rhetoric question, dont answer it! )

[burnt cove]

I see sorry I can't tell you it's a secret;) but now I can dive yay.

Also I collected the wing lights there and learn how to dive, also the map didn't have much related to the lore, but it do have wall painting

[nimble ingot]

Perhaps, try not to go too crazy with that for the last 2 days.
Still, you are a lucky fish.

[compact shale]

Wow you got into beta? Use that power wisely, okay?

[burnt cove]

Hahaha, worry not I will not make the same mistake again;)

[compact shale]

Sky: Blenders of the Light

[burnt cove]

Also the wall painting are more like Egyptian wall paintings, well all wall paintings in sky are like Egyptian wall painting.

[nimble ingot]

careful now, that is technically still beta content.

[tardy whale]

Yeah wait for Monday

[burnt cove]

I haven't tell you what is drawn in the painting lol

[nimble ingot]

of course, and that is not much different to saying, 'about half of the marvel characters might die in the film.'

[burnt cove]

It doesn't matter just like I said, it didn't have much to do with the lore so I am kinda disappointed.

[nimble ingot]

It is all fine and dandy that you got to see the season before it came out.
I did too, though I am not planning on spoiling it. Teasing it, sure, but that is still a slippery slope.

AllI ask is just be careful and wait 2 days for the rest of the lore chat to take it apart and see for ourselves what lore there may be.

[rigid mural]

Is it the enchantment warp chain all over again ?

[burnt cove]

best of luck guys , this swimming thingy is really hard

This swimming thing is really complicated so be careful or you will drown.

I wonder how players withThalassophobia will play this new season

[rigid mural]

They will probably rely on warping to their friends for the quests.

[burnt cove]

I hope there are no players with Thalassophobia.

[compact shale]

There are.

[burnt cove]

Nooooooooooo

[compact shale]

Those guys will need support ubers. (I'm not one)

[burnt cove]

For a moment I thought you are lol

[compact shale]

Nope! I have my own issue with the season! (not thalassophobia but close)

[burnt cove]

Hmmmmm I wonder what it is

[compact shale]

Just read this ig
#cozy-sky-discussion message

[burnt cove]

Ok👀

Sooo that's the problem huh?

[compact shale]

Yep! :D

[burnt cove]

Well you are going to have a hard time doing the Quest then

Best of luck Fruity, may the father of understanding guide you

BTW, I also don't know how to swim lol

[tulip aspen]

the rock is often in oobs tho, it could be downright inside the main island, or inside the thicker cloud walls

[thorny folio]

aka the "once every season warp chain"

[keen shore]

I think the explanation for this is that it’s a third person POV, so technically they don’t have to see if you guide them. I personally doubt they’re blind because it would be weird to not give a species? who rely on flying to get around at least decent depth perception

[boreal nebula]

I agree the first outpost can be a symbolof a catwalk
Curious, you say a hill? Interesting, that's new. Many see it as an eye 👁️ but I think a rainbow could be more suited (maybe the minner there marked them as such, later the scouts of Assembly took the hut (bcs I don't think kids were abke to build them all digging tree and tunnels)
I once though too about a tree truck too, yet it look too much squared.

I guess we'll see what a similar spot in Abyss map will mark

White? It could be, paint over the time can lose its colors. But if I recall correctly with Ash we talked about the 2 colors of paint there were in Wind Paths, maybe those are the only colors used in all realms, but I cannot be sure

[keen shore]

I can’t believe grandma is the sole owner of all the genders in Sky and allows no one else to have them

[hexed silo]

hey is there an alphabet guide saved in the concept somewhere out there

[nimble ingot]

For the old lore? yup. let me look for it.

[hexed silo]

thank youu

[nimble ingot]

ok, here is the image. I am still looking for the message that discussed this.
Found it:
#lore-discussion-spoilers message

[hexed silo]

yoooo tysm

[distant turtle]

Not just any hill. It’s a symbol of that hideout.

[distant turtle]

Without considering any lore aspects about paint, just attributes of the game image, the hideout symbols are bolder and a more yellowish color than the other line art on the map.

[boreal nebula]

Ooh I see, good point

So the Assembly Kids were Hobbits! /j

[keen shore]

Quick question, why exactly were they needed as scouts? The maps show that the temples already existed when they arrived so it’s not like the forest was discovered and everyone decided to send out a bunch of kids to map it

[boreal nebula]

I remember I saw a different concept of Skycript (sky script) with more letters (but of course it probably never got definitive)

#lore-discussion-spoilers message

For example this image, thanks to an another picture with most of the letters from skyscript deppcyphered, could be translaate somewhat along this (iirc)

Labor
Interllectual
Warrior
Civilian Male
Civilian Female
Child of Light
Dawn Ancestor
Day Ancestor

Thought this wasnt the complete picture , me think

[nimble ingot]

The language did not make it to the game. Do you can it a dead language in Sky, lol.

[boreal nebula]

@hollow orbit i can read it pretty well

Afterall most of them mimic the roman alphabet, despite the sanscrit look

I only found difficulty with n,m,r in those names above

[boreal nebula]

This one, on the other hand looks a bit more complicate

[distant turtle]

The word scouts is used in the sense of a kids club for outdoor activities. Also check out the symbol here.

[hushed steeple]

I've seen that symbol in other contexts too. It has French connotations, in my perception, but I could be wrong
Basically, it speaks to me of aristocracy and related things

[willow prawn]

I don't think they "had" a purpose, but more like they were kids making a club! That's why everything looks so hand-made

[rigid mural]

Tbh lilies aren't exclusive to France

[hushed steeple]

I get that, it's just how I've seen that symbol

[keen shore]

Fair enough, I was just wondering if they had an actual job and there was more lore in the season than we thought, but given the fact they’re kids I kind of doubt it xD

[rigid mural]

https://flightseason.tumblr.com/post/669236513171734528
Someone here made this

[marsh rivet]

ayyeee, the scouts lilly!!! i know that one! it's the generally known symbol for scouts, especially kid's scouts clubs! super cute amd live seeing it apparently appear in sky?

[willow prawn]

You're thinking of the fleur de lis! ⚜️ I think it's similar indeed but probably has some differences

[keen shore]

So you guys know the sloped rock right before isle’s temple that you take off from? My guess if that it originally connected to the island completely because the stair steps on it seem to purposeful to be natural and it would be weird for a staircase to just… end. I know they have flying boats, but In the candlemakers memory the boats don’t stop at the top to take you the rest of the way, they start from the ground (this is for a reconstruction btw)

Also I get the feeling that isle is where all the agriculture took place because it was previously green, it’s big, and it’s flat. DP would be my next guess but it’s a bunch of small floaty islands so harder to grow big fields of stuff there

[rigid mural]

i wonder if, like the vault, the eden castle can be thematically divided in 6 realms, hence the presence of the vault altars

[floral grove]

How many years do you guys think had passed before Sky Kids started appearing in the Kingdom of Sky?

[boreal nebula]

Oooold recording of how the Eden Epicenter could have been

#lore-discussion-spoilers message

[frigid tinsel]

could be centuries, thousands of years. all we have to go off of is "a long time has passed."

[floral grove]

Wouldn't the structures also tell us an approximate time? Centuries make more sense to me, maybe no more than 500 years. The buildings like the temples at the end of each realm (apart from GW and Eden) and the houses of the Village of Dreams are still holding up quite well. Thousands of years, probably, as that does emphasize the fact that the game now takes place a long time after the Kingdom fell but I do kinda doubt it due to how "fresh" some of the structures are in some areas

[frigid tinsel]

could be that those structures were well built or didn't face as much environmental forces to wear it down, like comparing Prairie and Wasteland

[rigid mural]

There's textiles hanging around the realms too (flags), which would quickly disintegrate with time, especially in environments like the Wastelands.

You'd be surprised at how little time it takes nature to reclaim human structures lol, I'm sure it goes for ancestor buildings too.

[boreal nebula]

#lore-discussion-spoilers message

Refined dark stones?

[frigid tinsel]

refined dark stones = power diamonds
at least that's what makes sense to me

idk that suggests that refined dark stones ≠ power diamonds, though they could be just a step before becoming completed power diamonds

[boreal nebula]

#lore-discussion-spoilers message

charcoal

#lore-discussion-spoilers message

I wonder if this is still working, after all I can see the GW and Prairie Portal picture in the Eden Rebirth Door

[keen shore]

Quick question about the citadel. I know its name appears in several candle quests as “Valley’s Citadel” so it has to be canon to some extent, but is that because it was named that from the beginning, or because the player base kept calling it that and eventually it got adopted into the game so it would be easier for players to tell where to go?

Just curious for lore reasons, because if it’s the actual fully canon name it makes it a Lot easier to guess as to its purpose, along with a bunch of other things

Also does anyone have guesses as to what these buildings are for? They’re so SMALL

Last interesting part about the citadel is this giant (I assume) darkstone disc in the center that’s constantly spinning. You can see the blue color through the cracks in the stone shell. I’m pretty sure this is what’s powering all the spinny things up above

[tulip aspen]

"this story has a lot of loopholes currently, Light Awaits is about to launch and it's still confusing and even we don't know where exactly to go with the narrative..."

"hmm....what if.... we just erase half of this entire script, and then publish it."

".............so... no story."

"no story."

"but-"

"And then, we can pretend it's actually finished! They'll eat it up, I swear!"

"brilliant!!!"

and that's the story of how TGC consumed your wallet

[hushed steeple]

It’s often called a citadel, they are probably watchtowers. Although they may have another use. Just my guess

[keen shore]

They’re so low to the ground though (they’re in the lowest part), some barely poke through the clouds. I feel like watchtowers would be higher up honestly… I feel like someone who knows more about buildings than me would be able to tell

[hushed steeple]

The gold spinning thing is maybe an orrery? The place is also called the orrery. One of the moving emojis in this server has it.
Example of orrery:

[hushed steeple]

Maybe clouds rose up or the building crashed down. might need to go there again.

[keen shore]

YEAH I REMEMBERED THIS I JUST FORGOT WHAT THEY WERE CALLED. thank you. I kept thinking of the word “oddity” for some reason

[tulip aspen]

the clouds are high above the floor, salem

we know this because stairs reach down into the clouds

[hushed steeple]

I’m thinking that possibly some explosion from Eden cause the whole citadel to sink or crash down a lot.

[keen shore]

But is that because they were meant to or because they collapsed into that position? Also they would still be useless as watchtowers for anything above it, so while I get what you’re saying it doesn’t really help much. Basically what I mean is that if they were watchtowers it would make a lot more sense to put them higher in general.

There are still a lot of low lying clouds in the switch trailer although I believe not as much. My current idea is that a lot of the clouds were always there, but the level they’re at just depends on weather, so while there could be architecture below them it wouldn’t be too much

[frigid tinsel]

the clouds might still be covering the rest of the building

[rigid mural]

I feel like yeah, a lot of valley buildings conveniently in clouds used to fly. Like the ones in the flying race. Floaty bois

[hushed steeple]

Could the citadel have floated but crashed down? :p

[rigid mural]

There's crashed buildings around the races yeah !

[hushed steeple]

Imagine having a house right next to the races tho

[rigid mural]

Honestly considering the size, I think that the ones on the border were mostly spectator vantage points

[keen shore]

Yeah. I do have to wonder how they pulled that off, as well as the floating bits of rubble in the citadel, but that’s a question for another day lol

The actual “citadel” name is interesting because it’s usually meant to be a raised bit in the middle of a city that’s more fortified, easier to defend, so on. So maybe there’s more city in the mountain slopes beneath it? But that’s still weird because of the round wall around it, and also the fact that it’s kind of hard to imagine people actually living in the buildings in this citadel.

My current idea is that several citadels exist throughout the city due to the natural landscapes there not being flat enough to build on or high enough to avoid fog and this is a smaller one of them. Basically small rich people communities. Everyone else would live on the limited stretches of land along the race lengths and spilling into the foothills below (like in Village)

[hushed steeple]

Maybe soldiers lived in the citadel to defend the place.
But what did they have to defend from?

[rigid mural]

Ok ok but consider this: giant floating vault/forest platforms, whose flat surface COULD support building

Sky is litterally the limit for this realm tbh, it really looks like it was meant to impress onlookers. Plus, Valley is linked to Air from Prophecy...

[keen shore]

Yeah that’s why I’m hesitant about leaning into the typical defensive aspects of a citadel and focusing it on the landscape instead. Also in reply to Vela I always got the impression that the floating platforms couldn’t hold a lot of weight, or maybe could but needed a ton of power to do so, because not a lot of stuff was on them

[rigid mural]

What about the one in the center of the citadel ?

[keen shore]

This disc thingy or are you talking about something else?

[frigid tinsel]

Cracked and brimming with diamond energy

[tulip aspen]

... because they were meant to?

here's what i mean lol, the cloud layer is like water; the clouds rose up

[rigid mural]

The orreries all are directly above those platforms, maybe they help carry the buildings ? There's orreries in the colloseum too.

[hushed steeple]

Orreries are usually to represent a solar system

[tulip aspen]

i think salem is right about the orreries, those giant rotating darkstone panels seem to make them float

the orreries prolly arent a power source themselves, but ig it's possible

[keen shore]

Hold on I need to get some better pictures of citadel in order to add to this discussion, I realized all the ones I have suck, be right back

[rigid mural]

I'm going to eat grated cheese, brb.

[hushed steeple]

That’s oddly specific

[compact shale]

don't knock it til you tried it, it's delicious

if you can find this cheese, you should grate some

[hushed steeple]

Ooh

[tulip aspen]

im going to honk into a metal pipe and avoid talking to people outside

[hushed steeple]

Maybe there are different forms that the darkstone crystals can take form? In this case it’s a slate-like form.

[compact shale]

you might think I chose this cheese because of the name and maybe i did but it's unironically good grated

[hushed steeple]

I just worded that so weirdly I just realized. Sorry.

[rigid mural]

I think the valley elders would approve of my dietary choices.

[compact shale]

*sprinkles grated cheese over apple

🧀
✨
🍎

[frigid tinsel]

Valley elder(s): yes yes very good

[hushed steeple]

That’s actually a really good combo, cheese and fruit.

[rigid mural]

Those platforms usually have a power diamond below. I think I spotted one under the colosseum's recently.

[compact shale]

yeah but the fruit in question is usually GRAPES

[frigid tinsel]

True. Sometimes for breakfast I eat grapes and cheese sticks

[hushed steeple]

Coliseum, you mean the platform u see in dreams that rises so we can skate there?

[rigid mural]

Yeah, there's a way to chibi fall there. Fun fact, that area used to have clouds before the rink that came in , so it makes sense the whole platform is modeled.
In light awaits, the twins used to spin around eachother in their cutscene & made that platform float !

[hushed steeple]

Oh I miss that old one. Where we all teleported even if still sliding down from the other races.

[rigid mural]

I wish I saw it 😔
Tragedy.

[hushed steeple]

Oh? You weren’t there for it?

[rigid mural]

I'm a switch moth lol

[hushed steeple]

Ohhh I see

[compact shale]

Valley twins break physics because it's fun

[hushed steeple]

Using the paddles to boost eachother up

[keen shore]

Middle disc in motion, some stairs that break off for no reason (did the rest of them collapse?) and an observation that there are more spinning discs and they all seem to be located underneath an orrery. The middle one is directly centered under the massive one in the middle. Since this is the only time I can remember off the top of my head that darkstone doesn’t take a diamond shape, and the orreries seem to be some kind of metal, I’m going to guess that magnetism might be involved here

[frigid tinsel]

probably how they lost their arms

[hushed steeple]

The massive orrery looks like there’s a small planet on the inside

[hushed steeple]

I wanna do it but I have no one

[keen shore]

It does! If it’s an actual orrery that would probably be the sun, but I’m hesitant to say that’s the case because they all have different amounts of rings, and some of the overlapping ones are in the same spot. So instead of a circular or elliptical orbit a “planet” would have two circular orbits at once, it should be visible in this picture

[rose forge]

Hey guys, so I know the names for elders are from the concept art, but is there meanings of their name in Hebrew? Or it just random words without any meaning? Thank you!

[keen shore]

I searched the area looking for stairs that disappear into the clouds like Jam mentioned but the closest I could find were these. The clouds are moving constantly and the bottom steps are obscured when they’re at the highest, but here’s how they look fully visible. This is the second case of stairs disappearing into nothing that I noticed; the rest of them probably collapsed beneath the clouds

[hushed steeple]

Ok off topic- but I am still confused why that tower is broken but floating.

[frigid tinsel]

apparently the letters have meaning in some jewish tradition but i couldn't tell you what off the top of my head

[keen shore]

I am too, actually. Maybe the same mechanism that makes the orreries float and spin has a small pull on the rubble around it as well? As far as I know Valley is the only realm that has the floaty rubble bits but I could be misremembering

[hushed steeple]

Don’t forget Eden/orbit. But that might be space rock?

[rose forge]

Ok!! I’m writing a fan fic so I’m interested in learning the meanings behind their names. Thank you tho!

[keen shore]

Another interesting thing is that the citadel is made partially of natural rock and filled in with bricks as seen here, suggesting that instead of the citadel being built as a defensive fortification it was just a product of the environment surrounding them

[hushed steeple]

WAIT maybe the center orrery represents the sky kingdom? Like before you reborn you zoom out and see a ball of light that is surrounded by mantas and birds.

[rigid mural]

It's the path you take from the citadel entrance when you don't just fly over it; very easy to miss, just sit on the big platform under the orrery n look towards the entrance

[keen shore]

Man it is so hard to get good angles of this area, I just want to reconstruct it all in one piece…
Another interpretion of the orreries is that they are moons orbiting a planet rather than planets orbiting the sun

[hushed steeple]

Man one time I got myself trapped in one of the towers underneath the clouds.

Worst decision of my sky career would not recommend -100/10

[keen shore]

You mean these? I think this is where the bridge connects as opposed to stairs

[rigid mural]

I should check myself before leading you places, my bad.

[keen shore]

Another picture of the bridge to show its in line. No worries about that btw, I misremember stuff all the time

[burnt cove]

So the bridge is broken?

[keen shore]

Another picture of the maybe watchtowers. I feel like they’re something else (I just can’t think of what though…) just because this area doesn’t have great visibility without the assumption that a lot more citadel exists below the clouds. There’s a rock face right behind it, and the main structure of the citadel itself gets in the way of being able to see anything that’s not directly below it.

And yeah, the bridge is broken

[hushed steeple]

Probably weathered over the course of time. Either that or that possibility of an Eden explosion knocked it down.

[burnt cove]

Must be the Eden explosion

[keen shore]

Also what are these things???? Maybe a guardrail of sorts, you see them in a bunch of weird places though

[hushed steeple]

That architecture confuses me. The towers are way up but the connecting bridge is way below with no way up to the top.

[burnt cove]

I have no idea about this citadel

[sharp lichen]

it's almost like that the citadel was overseen and made by Samekh, people who have the mental capacity of a 4 year old.

[hushed steeple]

Argh I forget what their called. Maybe their those things in real life watchtowers where you can hide behind but can also shoot out of.

[burnt cove]

Lol

[keen shore]

Each building has smaller connectors to the main area, which is hard to see for the one I’m standing due to the weird angle. But you’re right in saying the lower bridge is very strange because it doesn’t help connect them at all, there’s not even tunnels underneath the pillars or anything

[sharp lichen]

I'd like to imagine that they designed the entire Valley by themselves, with no experience in architecture

[hushed steeple]

Maybe there were dark-stone elevators but they are underneath the clouds now. An example of a darkstone elevator are the ones in the coliseum viewing stands.
I may be pushing that theory A bit much

[rigid mural]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrowslit

[keen shore]

You joke but this might be an actual explanation, because the height difference between the bridge and the pedestal is just high enough for them to climb up it themselves but no one else can because they’re too short (although I kinda doubt it)

[hushed steeple]

Omg thank you for that so much

[keen shore]

I do wonder what the orreries’ purposes were. Maybe just decoration, but I’m hesitant to settle on that because it kinda seems like a cop out explanation

[hushed steeple]

In one of the spirit memories they rode on a manta. In the flight areas they rode on ships with mantas attached. Maybe the used mantas to get up.

[rigid mural]

Backflip Champion rides a manta around the citadel so it's possible ancestors had other means to go from tower to tower.

Jinx

[hushed steeple]

Great minds think alike