lore-discussion-spoilers

[outer kernel]

Oh so I should have told you to go that channel too!!!?

I didn't realise soz

Ur welcome for finding big fish 🐋

This my type of humor

[harsh pecan]

Same

[outer kernel]

Soz I got excited n wanted to see if I cud help anyone else. The pics r all oobs

[harsh pecan]

I don’t think you can do it here but I appreciate the effort

[outer kernel]

Ye I realise now

[hushed steeple]

Im prepping up my money for that art book. I’ll invite all y’all to a illegal art book viewing party. Except apparently tgc takes like half a year to actually send the merch people order. So the party is planned for 2027

[compact shale]

IM HOWLING

The future looks weird. /hj

[hushed steeple]

Granted they been hinting at that book for prolly a year now.

[frigid tinsel]

art book might be something I'd ask for Christmas or birthday so I don't gotta foot the cost

[hushed steeple]

(Please be under 80$ please be under 80$ )

[compact shale]

Yeah lol

I hope it doesn't cost too much lol

The art of Sky: Children of the Light

[mild marten]

Is there a message here that talks about the elders concept names

[compact shale]

There's a lot.

[median stone]

So...

What is this channel doin now

[compact shale]

Right now? Absolutely nothing

[tulip aspen]

yes, and im doing the latter, the message fruity sent isnt really even related at all

im sorry if it felt like i lashed out, the phrasing of your arguments just made it sound like you were calling it canon
(and if they didnt actually i mustve misread..)

also yes, memory is defined as recollection of the past
that's still a very broad general term

keep in mind, if you say all spirit's memories take place in the "right before/last moment" theory, then every single spirit seasonal or not, has to fall well under that theory's realm of possibility

and the very second spirit unfortunately contradicts that theory, with stargazer being shown kidnapping a child of the light for it to be tested in the trials
the prophet's trials probably was before the war, not after or during, so yeah

the reason why i painfully eventually narrowed my gaze onto the characteristic theory is because the reason we relive the spirit and what that memory means to the spirit, fits as an explanation for every single spirit memory reliving

otherwise I'd still be thinking other things

[winged marsh]

My kinda weird question: is the prince and the king the same person or not?

[median stone]

Yes

[compact shale]

Some think that Resh is just Alef in a very big throne/mechsuit

[tulip aspen]

we have absolutely no idea also whoawhoawhoa the hearts yeesh calm down

[winged marsh]

Ah, nice

[mild marten]

the concept art for sky is making people go crazy here with theories lmao

[tulip aspen]

||some people = us||

the reason those some people think that is because it was shown as being 'true' in a concept art, my dear lore moffs

[median stone]

They are same because he is once a Prince, fallen to this world, then rule it became a King, but unfortunately some accidents happen or it just he got corrupted by dark forces

[tulip aspen]

people love writing fanfic stuff about the king lolol

same with megabird

[mild marten]

Imagine in the future tgc adds the Eden King to sky

[stable olive]

It's all good Jam, I didn't mean it to be canon, I'm sorry if I sounded that way. I was just speculating and comparing theories relative to each other, rather than definitively. I didn't have the info on the second spirit, but that does add validity to your theory. Thanks for clarifying! 💖

[compact shale]

They kinda exist. Hehehehehe. (The king)

[tulip aspen]

im just glad i was able to clarify @_@
i dont need no loremongering conflict rn im already exhausted la sigh..

thanks for understanding and forgiving moi

fruity just DMd me asking what loremongering is please tell me someone got my play on words i worked really hard on it 👉 👈 xD

[median stone]

King is present, but locked in limbo, (maybe that white boy in dark place after eden)... Prince fallen to this world and the Prophecy group make a challenge, four challenge to determine which kid can be the Future King... And then, the fallen boy "King/Prince" succeed... But now, his glory day ended, and now we relive the life cycle of Prince to his King day...

[winged marsh]

The white kid is actually the prince?? or king (I'm so confused lol)

[median stone]

King... But this is sky, those kids never gets old...

[compact shale]

Well that's one theory, but its evidence is... sort of illegal. Nah, it's definitely illegal.

[median stone]

This is from six month ago, this theory...

[fringe hare]

Illegal? Lmao

[median stone]

White Kid probably King, that stuck in the limbo, so he never getting old...

Prince were his early days... Just another probability, this world of Sky about Prince day, just taking one day.... From him fallen at the Dawn time, until Night time in Vault... As we said, this world maybe has its own law

[winged marsh]

Do skykids of generally anything get old in sky except for landscapes? The only things that look old are probably just old cuz of their cosmetics?

[median stone]

Hmmm i remembered someone said, there are few generation in this game, the generation that can get old and never gets old...

Before "The Boom" and after

The Boom just our renaming tragedy about exploding crystal in Eden

The dark crystal that is forbidden but Prince aka King, really try hard to use it just like Arcane stone(LoL)

[frigid tinsel]

Ancestors probably age.
Skykids haven’t been around long enough to determine if they age and we don’t have records of the one case of a skykid(?) being around long enough to maybe age.

[fringe hare]

Which one case are we missing records of? 🧐

[median stone]

Before "The Boom" they live like normal people, but after that tragedy, everyone never gets old, but theres a lot of effect happen to their world, like polluted water, dark forces emerging everywhere...

[frigid tinsel]

The skykid who appeared in Stargazer’s memory

[fringe hare]

oooo I’ll have to go relive that to see what you mean, which one?😅

[median stone]

In the Isle

The girl hair cosmetic

[frigid tinsel]

In Isle, not exactly sure where it is, but it’s around the big rocks

[fringe hare]

Found em, I go relive this and see what I think

[median stone]

Surely, a lot of forbidden things we like conquer...

[frigid tinsel]

There’s a lot of “girl” hairs, tho there’s no gender in Sky. Dev confirmed

[fringe hare]

Hmhmhmhm I see I see.. I guess we assume the stargazers memory is from a long long time ago, long enough ago that the crash landed skykid could have aged by now. Neat! I wonder if any other spirits reveal anything else about that specific kiddo..

[frigid tinsel]

as far as we know, no.
Much to the dismay of lore chat

[harsh pecan]

I’m still hoping the King will show up sooner or later-

[fringe hare]

I wonder if that memory is pre or post fall of the stars.

||crosses fingers even harder for an eden season with lore nuggets @harsh pecan ||

[compact shale]

Yeah, it kinda confirms that the spirits can't just have died at the same time.

Edit: Kind of...?

[tulip aspen]

seeing as stargazer kidnapped them, I'm assuming they suffered in the trials

[fringe hare]

Why assume she took them to the trials?
@Does stargazer have some sort of relationship with the trials that I can’t see at surface level?

[harsh pecan]

Probs happened after the fall of the stars if it doesn’t refer to the kingdom’s fall

Wait he was kidnapped?????????????????????????

[fringe hare]

I didn’t see any kidnapping when I relived it just now

[frigid tinsel]

There’s no evidence they kidnapped the skykid after finding them as much as there’s no evidence for whatever they did after finding the skykid.
People think kidnapping cos this game has a dearth of much desired angst

[harsh pecan]

Yea the two just find him in Stargazer’s memories

[compact shale]

That's not really the reason. It's because of a mural.

#lore-discussion-spoilers message

[fringe hare]

That seems kinda like a stretch with very little context but I can see why make the leap now, thanks.

On second thought all the sky lore is kind of stretch lmao.

Ima go sniff that mural for myself, I can see why y’all would assume that now

[harsh pecan]

Imagine if Stargazer just shoves him into a large bag and then brings him to the trails

[frigid tinsel]

There’s a lad on tumblr who made art of that skykid being raised by Stargazer after turning away the Isle elder cos “they’re just a child” but later taking them to the temple as a teenager/young adult.
There’s not much of it but it’s implied and I’m considering that my headcanon too.

[compact shale]

Adoption in Sky is always quite cute.

[harsh pecan]

What if Stargazer and Rejecting Voyager tried to hide Alef because they knew he’d be taken away, but he still did

[frigid tinsel]

Adoption in Sky is either
a) older players adopting moths
b) Stargazer adopting the skychild

[harsh pecan]

Lol ye

[compact shale]

And the "spirits from (insert season) are a found family" headcanon lmao

[frigid tinsel]

You can take the found family trope out of my cold, dead hands

[tulip aspen]

i mean ive debunked (canonchasing wise) most of the angst ones

[compact shale]

Whoops.

[tulip aspen]

the evidence is a bit of a deep open well

that mural as well as the ascension glow absolutely confirms that those two figures being pointed out in that lorefind image are voyager and stargazer, who are indeed sending the child off to face the trials

but yes whether the child was forced/goaded into it or just wanted to do it after some convincing, is up to you

either way, they're going up to a CotL that was just born, and asking/pressuring it into going into some creepy cave to do weird mind meditations

[fringe hare]

I looked at the prophecy cave mural, Much less convinced of kidnapping after seeing it myself. Doesn’t look at all like that cut referenced above wants you to think it does lol

[compact shale]

Out of context the last part of your message sounds like you've been dancing with the mushrooms for way too long

[fringe hare]

“Absolutely confirms” is some really strong words for that

[tulip aspen]

iirc we say kidnapping cos of angst fun yes but either way they do send children of the light they find up to the trials

also yes, the ascension glow findings confirm this has to be stargazer and a priest working together in that mural
(perhaps not voyager himself tho i believe the ascension glow notes have changed recently)

[fringe hare]

“Ascension glow” what?

[harsh pecan]

What is….Ascension Glow??

[compact shale]

Ancestors are colored slightly differently once you ascend them. Somehow this also applies to them when they appear in other spirits' memories. Vela used it to prove that Slouching Soldier is canon.

[harsh pecan]

Yea but they aren’t gold in the murals

[willow prawn]

Not related but this bucket paint has a handle/grabbing thing/forgot the word!

Who do you think it's in charge of painting? I'm between the Talented Builder and the Lively Navegator

[compact shale]

Fair point.

[harsh pecan]

I think it’s the Talented Builder

[fringe hare]

Here’s my issue with that mural referenced above. They took two very distant panels, cut them together, drew arrows from spirits to vaguely similar stick men, drew an arrow from a sky kid to another stick man, and called it a theory that they’re shipping kids to the trials 😂

It is a fun thought but no chance I accept “absolute certainty” that they’re shipping kids they find to the trials

[harsh pecan]

||Technically they are shipping kids to the trials, since they go there via boat ¯_(ツ)_/¯||

[fringe hare]

Semantics, but true.. IF you accept that those are sky kids on the boats. Which I’m not sure of myself. I don’t see any sky kids wearing potato dresses 🤷‍♂️

[compact shale]

What's a potato dress?

[fringe hare]

The only ones I see wearing dresses with stripes like that are ancestors

[fringe hare]

A dress looking like a potato sack lol

[compact shale]

Sounds like a Great Depression thing, not sure if that actually happened tho HAGHNSDNFAHFAHAHAHAHAAH

In Potato We Trust

[harsh pecan]

Lol potato dresses-

Im pretty sure spirits/skids are just drawn like that, we can see spirits with different clothes but they’re all drawn the same way

[harsh pecan]

Oh would you look at that 👀

[frigid tinsel]

Oh yea, when big producers began realizing people were using their sacks to sew clothing, they starting printing designs on their sacks of food like flour or corn. Fun fact

[harsh pecan]

Wow

[fringe hare]

Yeah I’ll have to look at more murals and see what’s what a little closer before I try to keep on with my current opinion 😛

Do we have any evidence of ancestors being unable to attempt the trials themselves? Something showing that it has to be done by a sky kid here or there ?

[frigid tinsel]

Just dead bodies on the murals.
Tho it’s uncertain if those are dead ancestors or skykids. Given some of the prophets’ memories, I’m leaning ancestors.

[compact shale]

We don't know whose dead bodies they are tho

[fringe hare]

Oh wow those are sure a lot of dead bodies in the trials. Damn

[fringe hare]

Ima go back and re live the prophets rq n see where you’re coming from

[compact shale]

I have a headcanon (Not a theory, so don't take it seriously) that there is permafrost under the Water Trial and if you were to dig it you would find dead bodies

[fringe hare]

I mean I’ve oobed down there before, it’s all water but I really wouldn’t doubt it. The ones that don’t vanish and respawn have to be somewhere other than on drawings 😭

[willow prawn]

But like... Where are trials truly located? Were they a real physical location?

(I think I heard Jam in a corner of my mind saying it's one meditation headspace )

Would love to read other takes tho!

[fringe hare]

Water prophet sure is training other ancestors, not kids

[frigid tinsel]

My in-universe headcanon is that there are a lot of delit skykids at the bottom of the water trial full of water and they only relight after the current pushes them to dry land where they can photosynthesize

[compact shale]

We are made of plant matter. /hj

[fringe hare]

Amazing

[harsh pecan]

There’s a theory that states that the trials are a hallucination or something

[fringe hare]

I mean we do meditate to get there.. as opposed to walk thru a cave or something

[frigid tinsel]

Thing is, I struggle to believe one can get elemental powers by dreaming

[fringe hare]

Yeah I feel that. Unless they’re on some “the elemental power was inside of you all along” type ish

[harsh pecan]

Maybe the real elemental power was the friends we made along the way

[frigid tinsel]

Skykids can teleport by meditating. It doesnt seem so far-fetched that ancestors could teleport to the trial locations (whether it’s in a place beyond time and space or somewhere in the world) with an exquisite arrangement of candles and sheer will

[compact shale]

Water. Earth. Fire. Air.

My grandmother used to tell me stories about the old days, a time of peace when the Avatar kept balance between the Water Tribes, Earth Kingdom, Fire Nation, and Air Nomads. But that all changed when the Fire Nation attacked.

(just kidding this is Sky)
(also MY CABBAGES)
(also don't drink from random cactuses)

[fringe hare]

I stg lmao

So much fun brain fodder

I definitely want the trials to be physical things. I feel like depicting bodies inside the trials on the mural, would have less impact if it was more like they all died meditating at the foot of the main caves shrines.

…but if they were physical locations why don’t magic/props work inside. Hngngngngngng

[compact shale]

What if the trials are preparing us for bigger dangers? Something more dangerous than Wasteland?

[fringe hare]

Hmhmhmhmhmhm I guess we can teleport by meditating.. whether that’s like a canon ability or a convenient game mechanic I’m not sure🤔 would help a lot if that was the case

[frigid tinsel]

i think it'd convenient we can do it from anywhere, though there are Home statues in each realm. perhaps in-universe skykids can only do that from there, like in the trials we meditate in front of the prophets' statues

[fringe hare]

So many loose ends ahhhh this is what it’s like trying to pin down sky lore

[harsh pecan]

Maybe their bodies were scattered around the trials but also in the cave

[compact shale]

It is organic and growing to us. But it is solid to the Devs.

[fringe hare]

Bold claims fruity I’m not convinced it’s solid to them either😂

[frigid tinsel]

Ash said there's a lore bible

[compact shale]

Lore chat used to have an existential crisis about this. It got so bad that Ash gave us the tidbit of a lore bible existing.

[fringe hare]

Might have been a salve to cool the masses. Make everyone feel like there’s a solid floor beneath them when really it’s just a juicy emotional soup

[harsh pecan]

Is the lore bible just like the bible but filled with Sky lore?

[compact shale]

I wouldn't think so, but there are some Bible verses that sound like Sky lore

[harsh pecan]

Can you give an example?

[compact shale]

read it and weep painfully

https://bible.usccb.org/bible/psalms/37

https://bible.usccb.org/bible/psalms/119

[fringe hare]

What is this mega bird propaganda?! Jk lol😂

“Blessed those whose way is blameless,

who walk by the law of the BORB”

[harsh pecan]

Why do they all mention wickedness in the first link?

[fringe hare]

Alright where’s Ash saying a lore Bible exists? All I see is Seraph saying that there is no such lore Bible

[harsh pecan]

Really?

[compact shale]

#lore-discussion-spoilers message

Edit: Also Seraph is a server mod not a TGC staff

[harsh pecan]

The second one is….interesting

[fringe hare]

Bahhh all that’s saying is the devs all know the canonical story of the game, which is fair. But wether or not they have answers to the minute details we scrutinize is a crap shoot. Not to say I wouldn’t krill for a peek at the canon story, because I would.

BAHHHH fine fine fine they probably know the big things we want to know. Good. They should. We gonna find out one day.

[compact shale]

Yeah. The finer details aren't common knowledge. Apparently the answer to "What are skykids made of?" isn't common knowledge either. Not sure how important it is to the actual story, but it's important to us.

[fringe hare]

Right. But things like “what really happened to eden, what was Eden, who is this and that and what did they do and why” all probably exist

[compact shale]

yeah lol. Oh my goodness, is your head about to explode?

[fringe hare]

INCREASINGLY LIKELY.

Anybody else of a head cannon that Journey and sky are tied to the same planes? Cuz I sure am

If a Krill isn’t a corrupted Guardian then I don’t want it 😂

[compact shale]

Guardians are artificial machines, krill are the corrupted skeletons of a certain light creature.

[fringe hare]

You think so?

They both make similar noises. Move similar ways. Have the same optics. Attack patterns. Size, even their limbs are quite similar. And they both eat/collect light.

[compact shale]

I don't know much Journey lore, but the machine thing is canon. And Jenova said that krill are corrupted (as opposed to being natural)

[fringe hare]

I know guardians are machines, and ye krill are corrupted. I don’t see that being mutually exclusive tho, why not a machine get taken by darkness?

Is there a video of jenova talking about things?? I’d love to see that if there is

[glad bluff]

The whales i think

[pastel brook]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/593565781166391316/832872714967842826/Untitled90_20210416150354.png

[harsh pecan]

Bruhhhh

[compact shale]

Why does it send when we're dead?

[fringe hare]

So misplaced lol

[harsh pecan]

Ye

[compact shale]

why u come when we ded

[barren tundra]

[true grove]

Ban

Noo why did you change it was good

[hushed steeple]

I came to say hi and what even is this

[compact shale]

idunno man

[floral grove]

Are the stuff in Sky based on real life cultures? Like any of the capes, masks, temples, etc

[primal sparrow]

I rmb the dark plants is based of a type of slime mould, and krills are krill shrimps in real life

And the same applies to other creatures who have the name of their origin real life creatures such as mantas crabs birds butterflies

And theres a lore for the choice of dark plants to be fungus bc like when dead bodies started to rot, fungus and mould take in place, so some places where have the dark plants can be understood that theres dead body under it, like the crying emote in rainforest and tired emote in priarie

[drowsy spoke]

I legit never realized the fungus is blossoming over dead bodies... that's more than slightly horrifying

Does anyone know what the architecture of sky is based off of, btw? The bell towers and stuff remind me of... something, but I can't put my finger on it

[icy spruce]

I legit never realized the fungus is blossoming over dead bodies... that's more than slightly horrifying

Hannibal s1 ep2 flashbacks

[compact shale]

Fun fact about slime molds: They're pretty efficient and there are experiments involving making a scale model of a city's train network, putting bits of food on the station points, and releasing a slime mold colony on it. The molds grew paths very similar to the train station paths, confirming their efficiency.

[distant turtle]

Check out this person’s current Elders art piece. Search for
from: Oz#3800

[oblique oasis]

Temples in Thailand?

[harsh pecan]

[warm ember]

Woahh
It can be!

[rugged oyster]

[rigid mural]

I recall the devs said they got inspiration from cultures in mountainous areas !

Speaking of mountainous areas, Valley made me think about Greece, not only because of the sport events, but because of the blue roofs and buildings embedded in mountains.

And apparently the extremely safe bridge placements too

The blue roofs are all the way on an island called Santorini but...

[tulip aspen]

its not about them being gold in the murals lolol but there is an isle priest depicted just like the one in stargzer's memory and that's really all we need to deduce

@compact shale i forgot, did we discover that via the ascension glow voyager wasn't the one in stargazer's memory?

[tulip aspen]

i think the prophets could have actually based them off real locations across the globe

maybe they themselves experienced the true trials and just projected that into these tests in the cave

[tulip aspen]

i struggle to think about a primordial mass of light in the sky watching us all yet here we are @_@ /hj

[tulip aspen]

yee thats why it's so hard for me to leave the comfort zone my analysis stuffs

cause mine are meant to not have as much loose ends lol

[tulip aspen]

i mean it shows children of the light being sent to the trials either way

the mural does say that

[hushed steeple]

I gotta keep remembering your col means inner light

[fringe hare]

No it doesn’t tho, all it shows are depictions of somethings being sent to trials. Assuming it’s “children of the light” is up to you but it its not explicitly stated 🤷‍♂️

[hushed steeple]

Jams definition of children of light is what jam theorizes as the inner core of all living light beings. Not skykids or glowboys.

[fringe hare]

My statement stands

[tulip aspen]

not really lol ancestors were never depicted as glowies

also skykids didnt exist back then yall

[fringe hare]

Believe what you want but if you gonna claim certainty ima challenge it, because there is none.

[hushed steeple]

Well the statement at this point is “it shows something alive and humanoid going to the trials”

I honestly don’t think all humanoid people in the game have a “child of light” inside because that sounds like a soul, and we can already see ancestors souls, and how they change color when filled with light. But I can see how it affect terminology depending on who is theorizing.

[tulip aspen]

skykids (descendents) are the new generation that began falling a loooong time after the explosion

ancient CotL were basically just bebe ancestors

[fringe hare]

If this was @me, there aren’t any “glowies” on the prophecy mural. Everyone’s blue lol

[tulip aspen]

blue?

[fringe hare]

Maybe I missed that dude, because I went back myself and saw nothing but blue characters everywhere. I go look again

[hushed steeple]

Ohhh you can activate the murals by standing on the braziers. It fills in the missing trial victor

[tulip aspen]

that dude was the one i was referencing the whole time lolol rip sorry for the misunderstanding

ancestors (peasants) in the trial murals are explicitly depicted as a figure with a line thru them to represent their robe

so i dont think the glowy figure is a normal ancestor like the pupils in the cave memories

(ngl there were times i didnt think the people in the prophet's memories were pupils at all, the prophets were just showing them around the cave (so kinda teaching them but either way those spirits didnt seem to belong)

[tulip aspen]

omggg lol i was starting to believe we were wrong but the murals just weren't activated by everybody theorizing???

I'll go fly into the cave rn too lolol

[hushed steeple]

Granted. I found out about activating the murals by complete accident its really not obvious with one camera pan to a brazier

[tulip aspen]

yeah it's an understandable instance lolol gave me a heart attack i was like "bru i was pretty sure....."

[tulip aspen]

nothing was edited together at all lmao

it shows the stargazer and a priest along with the people of isle, sending a child of the light, presumably one of the ones they find and collect when they Fall from the Sky like in stargazer's memory

the child of the light is shown entering the cave of prophecy and doing the trials

PHEW
WE'RE GOOD PEOPLE
NOTHING WAS DEBUNKED

see, but it's important that we try to let it be debunked
what makes my notations an analysis and not just a theory, is that they have to be able to be under fire and still come out strong answering all questions

this was very important, and a valuable distinction was made, and that's that stargazer may not actually have directly kidnapped the children, but either way the children were convinced to do it

and then they died/defeated :D

[frigid tinsel]

The ones who died seen to be ancestors tho

[fringe hare]

Yeahhh I had forgotten about activating the braziers to reveal the rest, I was operating on incomplete data my B. - @tulip aspen

With it all lit up it does seem more likely that kid they found crash landed could pretty well be the one they sent.

And yeah I’m inclined to believe all the dead with a sash were young ancestors. Seeing the memories of the prophets training them and then all them bodies on the mural is 🥲 - @frigid tinsel

[tulip aspen]

IM SORRY IM BEING SUCH A BRAT BUT YES THANK GOODNESS I WASNT WRONG

[hushed steeple]

Air Prophet: “oh crud we got all our students killed what now”

Earth Prophet: “I heard a new kid just fell outside that matches our prophecies depiction of the victor”

Prophets:

[wise glade]

What’s all of the seasons lore?

[upbeat rampart]

Also, question, which spirits appeared in Prophet's memories?

[icy spruce]

All I remember are sneak and stand stance, that’s all

[frigid tinsel]

hard to tell since hairology was debunked iirc

[tulip aspen]

:0000

[willow prawn]

Hmm, I should relive those memories now I've ascended those spirits and see if anyone is golden

[tulip aspen]

according to the ascension glow notes, absolutely no one we know lolol

they are just random extras, which makes me think they are just peasants from the kingdom and not actually students of the prophets

[upbeat rampart]

Honestly hair logic is...there. If any were base spirits, then I ascended them all and it didn't show up to be yellow tinted

[willow prawn]

Once again, skykids prove to keep being the superior race /j

But talking seriously, that's why I think the trials are real (or were?) for the ancestors, while we're only in a recreation, because we don't really die

[tulip aspen]

thank god it was way too simplistic an evidence to go by

[upbeat rampart]

Tho, how was it debunked? Any proper ref?

[tulip aspen]

nahnahnah hold on

im really busy but ill get back to you later on this lmao

i really dont think it means what you think it does but ill admit i have a harsh bias on this topic rn

[frigid tinsel]

i don't know how it was debunked, that was before my time here, i just heard it was debunked.

[willow prawn]

is this about meditation headspace

[upbeat rampart]

I'm not sure if it's our spirit's parent of something.

And strangely...the glow doesn't reflect on some (like Reject in Usher) or maybe it's not reject afterall

[icy spruce]

Might be false info tho since sometimes uhh people phrase their theories like its canon

[tulip aspen]

for that theory, the logic was that any spirit with same hair is exact same spirit @_@

it was debunked the moment we could prove well that stargazer and that other one werent the same person smh

[upbeat rampart]

Oh, okay! Thank you for telling me either way

@tulip aspen ...then Grandma should have been older bird whisperer lol
(Ok I respect that Chesca)
(Even if idk you're talking about grandma or bw)

[icy spruce]

then again, I wasn’t that online in lore chat during Feb-March 2021 so hhhh

personally, I think they’re the same spirit

[tulip aspen]

exactly, it personally was silly from the start

[upbeat rampart]

Also the fact that Skater girl hair is similar to Usher, which is also similar to Point's kid...so yes that exists

[willow prawn]

I do think similar masks can mean related people tho! Not the same but related

Which begs to question, how big is Mr Rhythm family? 🤔

[upbeat rampart]

Would make sense with Belonging family (solely masks)

[Just realised that it's a new day for me already aaa]

[willow prawn]

I mean, considering we see Juggler right before the skater goes to dance, and how both she and the Rhythm crew are performers, I don't find so crazy to believe the quest guide could be related

But that's more of a headcanon than a theory, haha

[upbeat rampart]

Also, Skater also uses a lot of tricks from the Rhythm crew (which could be their speciality/skill which they learn by being family or friends) which makes me believe that they would have kinda known each other at least

[willow prawn]

Yep! And the triple Axel from the lightseekers spirit in Valley, too

[shut trellis]

Do Traveling spirits mean anything lore wise? (aka random spirits coming back every other week)

[hushed steeple]

Imagine hair theory is actually canon and dreadlocks somehow survived the trials only to not become the victor and then GO TO WASTELAND TO BE KRILL FEED

[upbeat rampart]

Parents and their high expectations probably put Stealth in GW as a punishment of not winning and they died. /hj

[willow prawn]

Excuse you but Stealthy Survivor does just fine avoiding krills and I wish we could look that sleek in sneaky pose

[shut trellis]

Wait, whats the hair theory? People with similar hair are related?

[upbeat rampart]

Are the same person, in fact

[shut trellis]

Ohh thats cool. So that means that the skater girl is the ushering stargazer? And if i recall correctly, their parent is the sparkler parent? What about bald people?

[upbeat rampart]

I'm not sure, it's said to be debunked (from Alasdair) and nor do I personally believe it (because then, Usher = Point's kid = Skater)

I'm not sure of sparkler, should revive them soon hhh

[fringe hare]

Who’s point’s kid

[upbeat rampart]

In Point's memories, they're shown to have a family and the kid has a hair similar to usher

[fringe hare]

Ah pointing spirit, gotcha thanks! Ima go check that out. That’s isle ye?

[upbeat rampart]

Yep!

[fringe hare]

Oooo the one in the little cave near the big ramp?? ;-; is that their house.. aww

[upbeat rampart]

If by Ramp you mean the broken boat thing (I think), then yes, the same

With default guy hair

[fringe hare]

I go see rq

[brittle flower]

Theory: Sky kids are being called upon by eden to steal light from all of the lands and sacrifice it to them over and over again.

[fringe hare]

Aw man they were just a little humble family of candle makers living in a cave ;-; adorable. It would be really interesting if stargazer was the same little girl, spent her life there and eventually found a crashed skykid in the sand whilst hunting for candle materials

[rigid mural]

Reject is in piggyback's memory, it's possible there's a third model of reject not affected by ascension that was used in lightseekers and reused in Prophecy.
I prefer to think it's all the same spirit since they are the same when you overlook the color.

For the students, they don't have the same model and are implied to have died so... I think they just have reused hairstyles. Plus, the sneaky survivor hair one doesn't have a cape...

[tulip aspen]

we need to have someone write a full documentation of every reoccurring ascension glow, and every lack of ascension glow that contradicts someone's theory about a spirit being in another's memory

is anyone up to the task?
all of us will have to contribute pics and notes in order to finish it

[hushed steeple]

You mean when they turn yellow? Its a memory of a spirit not the spirit itself. I guess I could check Yeti memory and make sure Foxmask who I ascended as a ts is still blue in the memory

[compact shale]

Yeah, apparently we found out that the Priest in Usher's menory and Rejecting Voyager are not the same.

#lore-discussion-spoilers message

[compact shale]

I know that stuff's dubious but completely debunked? How?

[frigid tinsel]

Again, idk. I wasn’t there. I just heard it was

[boreal nebula]

IMHO navigator, after all those are his colors

[tulip aspen]

yes that's what i thought

[tulip aspen]

yes please!

[tulip aspen]

interesting!

[boreal nebula]

Pretty sure both Fox Mask and Pianist in Yeti's memory are golden and confirmed (much like Fox Mask and the brave stance mother from above the ice rink can be seen inside the lightseeker performing the Triple Axel)

[boreal nebula]

Dead or fainted, how can we tell?

If we habe to consider that we see no corpse or spirit there I guess it could be a good sign (maybe after the trial were all passed they were released from a stasis)

I saw someone says the number of people inside the Trials murals is coincidentally the same and yet I cannot shake off that the number could be just nothing to give too much importance
D

First of all the Trials are depicted faithfully

I like to think the number of people who entered each Trials is represented by the number of candles we need to lit

Or at very least the number of people who entered and didn't exited

IF the people who entered and failed DIED in them, then maybe the number of candles is the number how how many didn't pass it (while who survived could recollect their candle which would be useful in next trial)

[tulip aspen]

seeing no corpse or spirit means nothing, it's implied there was a massive army at battlefield, a gigantic city full of people that got hit by the shockwave of the Eden explosion, ect

yet there's hardly any ghosts around mate

i dont think ghosts or corpses cues in to anything

also really it's the exact same number of people??

[boreal nebula]

(I'm kind of imagining that the candle was a way to bid *bind their soul to the real life to not loose themselves inside each pocke dimension.
From the outside the Prophets could be able to see how many were perishing on the other side)

[boreal nebula]

I would like to thing they fainted, but in the last theory I'm formulating I'm assuming it means they died, so each candle there stands for any victims

[frigid tinsel]

Just cos there’s no corpses now doesn’t mean there never where. Bodies decompose or are taken away. Who knows how long it’s been between the fall of the kingdom and skykids arriving

[boreal nebula]

Thus in the end, the first trial were hard but somehow overcome by most of the pupils or whoever tried them

But the last one, Fire Trial, was hell... Thus we see the bigger count of candles outside it

[boreal nebula]

You're right, but for the sake of a game that is family friendly I think TGC maybe will never tell us they're dead

So how can we rule out Dead Or Fainted for sure?

[compact shale]

We'll find out when Sky ends and they release the Lore Bible /hj

[rigid mural]

I think the narrator in the intro is Daleth.
Both elders and ancestors are referred to as spirits, hence the "we".

[hushed steeple]

Dang. If elders are called spirits too that could be the case. Does it say to wake the other elders before or after you wake Daleth? Because if he says “others” before waking up him thats good proof the speaker is the first elder.

[rigid mural]

No idea, the intro you get when you replay it is incomplete since the winged light is not here anymore. When does the game say that ?

[boreal nebula]

Just a reminder of when my neurons realized ( one year after the bug and 3 days after I watched the NastyMold's video ) that a Journy Themed Skin could have glitched out in game

[tulip aspen]

elders are referred to as spirits?

[rigid mural]

"Elder spirits"

[compact shale]

Where are they referred to as such?

[rigid mural]

I think they are within the game, I could look up if they are refered as such in the Isle.

[compact shale]

Please do

[fringe hare]

All I can think of is initially when it’s said that “as spirits we all lived together in..” or some such like that. It coooould mean the elders as well

I wonder if the elders are dead and we meet their spirits, or if they’re just on another level that we can only reach by meditating at their temples.

[rigid mural]

All the playthroughs I find go too fast for hint textboxes to show up, damn it

[compact shale]

AAAAAAAAAAAA NOOOOO VELA NOOOO

[rigid mural]

I gotta do everything myself smh

"Elder of the temple"
"Ancient Elders"
???

What does the english version say

[stark marten]

I can check, give me a second to get over there

[scenic spoke]

what

[rigid mural]

ancestor elders ???
that's kinda like solving a math problem without using the right method ngl 💀

this doesnt confirm elders are spirit (though i would SWEAR i saw "elder spirit" somewhere) but it does point towards elders being related in some way to ancestors ? What does something being an ancestor elder even mean ???
At least "ancient elders" just mean they are suuuper old

[icy spruce]

elders of the elders or smthn like that

[compact shale]

chesca what-

[stark marten]

Yeah it does seem a bit confusing and conflicting with some of what the devs have said before I think. I'm not entirely sure though

[rigid mural]

crickey

[tulip aspen]

Is that really the english version??
Maybe it's a European version?

idk ima check on my own lolol

[stark marten]

I only use US English on my device, so yeah that's the normal English version

[rigid mural]

European english is the same as american or canadian or australian english ? Like the only differences in common language you find in videogames would be inconsequential stuff like "grey" and "gray", I don't think TGC would bother putting different kinds of english in their game

[shut trellis]

If the elders are elders and all, why do some of them look young by that I mean how the valley elders look younger than the isle elder. and that sort of stuff. does age not matter?
I mean a tiny king became king so i can see that

[rigid mural]

anti-age cream

[tulip aspen]

oof yea it definitely says ancestor elder

might make things interesting @compact shale

[hushed steeple]

Well. Narrator talks before Daleth wakes up :/

[rigid mural]

Could be talking to us in their dreams, the Isle gate and temple are the first to be active.

[stark marten]

I think they could also be using "elder" as a general term for someone in a high level leadership position. So not necessarily the oldest but just whoever is in charge or leading their group of people or something

[shut trellis]

oh yeah, that makes sense. daleth needs some anti-age cream, though.

[rigid mural]

Ancient Elder still seems redundant tbh

[compact shale]

Interesting about what? If they're grown from regular ancestors or something?

[hushed steeple]

Also says to wake up the elder of that temple instead of “myself”

[rigid mural]

Okay this is fair.

[hushed steeple]

Im still vouching for Pointer as narrator. Who better to point you where to go next.

[rigid mural]

Maybe it's the winged light then ? I heard in a recent update, it beckons you closer.
Pointer as a narrator is adorable tho, sold.

...Oh ! and they also follow you through the temple, then shows up in the prairie social area !

[hushed steeple]

They certainly sing. Dunno how sentient they are or if they are just imprints of memory light or emotions or prince or something

[stark marten]

I think the term "Ancestor Elder" just seems weird to me because haven't the devs said that the ancestors and elders were different entities? So the wording on that seems like it would be contradictory

[shut trellis]

Oh well. Lore is gonna contradict itself sometime.

[hushed steeple]

Also elders are bloomin giants. But being the leader of ancestors makes you an ancestors elder. Debatably like Princess Peach being princess of toads. Still the toad princess

[rigid mural]

Losing my mind at the princess peach example but YEAH those were the vibes I was getting, that with that wording, it would make elders a kind of greater ancestors. Concept art had them wear clothes even more similar to basic spirit clothes too (looking at Ayin ) !

[harsh pecan]

Maybe they can change their appearance so they just choose to look young

[shut trellis]

Maybe. Skykids can, so who says elders can't.

[compact shale]

Not sure how it happened, the lore bible is there...

[hushed steeple]

Elders using resize potions have long been the topic of silly fancomics

Dunno why anyone would pick to be old geezerman. The lost stream said elders where always elders. I always assumed Daleth pulled the short straw and got made the forever old man.

[shut trellis]

Oh yeah, that brings up another question, could ancestors use resizes? They are the ones who made them.

[harsh pecan]

RIP Daleth

[rigid mural]

daley

[shut trellis]

daley

[hushed steeple]

And an elder being stuck as a child and wanting to look older has been a massive part of my Prince headcanon so im not letting that go.

[harsh pecan]

I think they did

[compact shale]

: Okay, who's getting the ol' geezer drink? Eeny meeny miney mo... ah, looks like YOU'RE getting it, Daley!
: whyyyyyyyyyyyy

[tulip aspen]

that people will say they might be

like vela

but ig we still have the fact the devs explicitly say the elders are a 'completely different' "species"

to me it's just another dumb wording just like the "we as spirits lived happily" crap

and at the most the reason for it is they are the 'elders of the ancestors', but not ancestors that are elders

[compact shale]

Sneepy dev team at it again?

[tulip aspen]

id assume so

ash denied me that the last thing was a mistake nor a contradiction but tbf they were understandably just trying to get me out of their face so yeah i dont feel like believing or not believing anything in particular

[hushed steeple]

I don’t think ancestors grow into elders. Since we got some pretty old and powerful ansestors that are still pipsqueaky by comparison.

[shut trellis]

I just noticed that the cooldown is no longer 1 minute

[compact shale]

They tell us to sneep, so that our fanfic lore does not suffer like their discontinuities /hj /lh

[hushed steeple]

...........whats hj and ih mean

[tulip aspen]

yeah they have to be 'elders' via deity status, not age

[compact shale]

hj - half-joking
lh - lighthearted

[shut trellis]

so
the elders came before the prince, right?

[hushed steeple]

Usually assume Prince IS an elder. But its looking likely the other elders either went to the land during or before Prince arrived.

[shut trellis]

Oh okay. I was wondering that since iirc, in the prophecy murals, the elders were on there, and the prince was crowned. (assuming thats the prince/king.)
Also, why does in the concepts, the prince and king have different names? (i know they could be different people but it seems unlikely.)

[tulip aspen]

if the prince is the Chosen One from the trials, then the prince Fell during one of the "mid-generations" of children of the light

<<<first gen being the ones that became ancestors, mid-gen being in between, last gen being skykids>>>

its kinda sad that's the best thing i can accurately produce that's close enough to a 'timeline' lolol

[hushed steeple]

Dunno why the name change. On the concept with the ark on it its labeled alef/resh so even then they had two names. Either he changed his name to strike more fear or it just represents a corrupted nature

[tulip aspen]

omg ur drawings....

[hushed steeple]

Seems accurate. And CUTE

[shut trellis]

that makes sense, in a way the king and the prince are kinda like different people.

[hushed steeple]

I see that “clothes are different for most” as in the “for most” as jn narcissist valley pants.

[compact shale]

Does Narcissist even actually exist? 👁️👁️

[rigid mural]

that's where your interpretation comes in play

[hushed steeple]

Somewhat sure the spirits of TLP are real. But just in case i’ll give the artsy fartsy response too. They are as real as a story in your heart or somethn.

[shut trellis]

maybe, but not in the same sense we see them as, since vault is also kind of a dream/illusion

[rigid mural]

The devs seem to want to leave it up to us how much of the TLP season is canon, but the memories seem to be of the kingdom of sky since Slouching Soldier's features spirits from Valley and GW.

[compact shale]

Just because we found out that Slouch is real doesn't mean they all are.

[rigid mural]

FAIR
I liked the theory where they are amalgamates of different memories that were given shape by the TLP book; hence why they are so exagerated it's comical.

[compact shale]

Amalgamated memories...

True Lab Desert /j

[rigid mural]

slouching soldier getting an existential crisis

[shut trellis]

i was going to say that the TLP spirits represented spirits from different realms, then i couldn't really figure out where the star dude and the king would go. and the lamp person too

[compact shale]

There's actually concept art about this exact thing, each spirit having a corresponding realm. Where is it, though?

[rigid mural]

a stream had them as follows;
ruler: isle, star collector: prairie, lamplighter: forest, narcissist: valley, soldier: golden wastelands and geographer: vault.

[shut trellis]

does this suggest that resh was crowned in isle or that they were that one white kid /hj

[pseudo heart]

Came here and was immediately graced by Ktjn what do we have rn folks

[rigid mural]

daleth missed white boy wednesday, that's why resh became corrupted

[compact shale]

We have no idea if they're real, and we have no idea when Ash will return

[shut trellis]

really, daleth? man, you really messed up

[rigid iron]

ktjn jumpscare this fine day in lore chat

[rigid mural]

god i realise the screenshot i took is unflattering, whoops

[compact shale]

Where?!

[shut trellis]

King, TLP, conversations.
Oh yeah, and elders.

[lofty void]

ELDERS?!!?!?

[rigid mural]

and ancestor elders

[arctic kettle]

Something about the elders i been thinking about is that maybe they're not alive not death. Since you can met them || after finishing Eden maybe they choose not to reincarnate || Maybe they can't go back and when we first met them it's their limbo

[hushed steeple]

They said the same about assembly though

[compact shale]

Where Ktjn???

[shut trellis]

technically, they are dead then. they choose to stay in the realm of the dead and therefore, they are also dead until they choose to be reborn.

[hushed steeple]

Scolding: vault
Facepalm: forest
Chuckle: Bubble: Isle n Prarie, dunno which is which
Marching: Valley
Scaredy: Wasteland

[pseudo heart]

Samantha is Ktjn

[arctic kettle]

Yeah then maybe just stuck in limbo or at least their memories

[compact shale]

Was this pairing confirmed or not? All it says is that they're the descendants of the Forest spirits

(the thing about them being connected to Elders is either lost, retconned, or Mandela'd into existence)

[hushed steeple]

Some of them fit so nicely, I think somewhere they said it. Still need to check the assembly dev video.

Personally I think they use the realms as spirit inspiration for a bunch of seasons with 6 spirits

[shut trellis]

So the assembly kids are ancestors, but also descendants! /j im pretty sure that there is a canon pairing although i forgot what it was.

[floral grove]

Are there any concept art that shows what GW was like before the war broke out?

[rigid iron]

It was mentioned in the Teaser: Season of Assembly blog that "Each spirit this season is individually related to the realm Ancestors of Sky – with their theme and items a reflection of their personalities."
Some people incorrectly attributed this to the elders, but ancestors refers to regular realm spirits. Nothing said about forest spirits specifically, but each assembly kid has a mask that corresponds to a lightseeker (unconfirmed)

[harsh pecan]

Oh they used the same thing twice

[compact shale]

Nope, it's specifically Forest spirits, though if each has 2 parents, one could be a Lightseeker and one could be from Forest (Laidback's their own case lol)

(Also we have no idea how to trace spirit family trees, we should ask Ash for clues because we're wandering around like wild geese about this topic)

https://www.thatskygame.com/news/a-return-to-hidden-forest-with-season-of-assembly "Meet the 6 Scouts (who are descendants of the Hidden Forest ancestors)"

[hushed steeple]

Ok checked the dev update. He didnt say anything about them being based off the realms.....and also possibly mistakenly calls spirits skykids

[compact shale]

Who's talking? :

[hushed steeple]

Nick Oueijan, a game designer

The one in the tree who wonderfully put a pot on his head for assembly

[compact shale]

Whoops brain poot

[rigid iron]

Oh neat! I must've missed that part. I wonder if they mean ones we already know or just regular citizens of the forest we haven't befriended

[compact shale]

And I wonder if other seasonal spirits found in Forest count as well...

(Nah at least some have to count unless they all only have 1 parent lol)

[upbeat rampart]

I mean, possibly...I just need to check all associated memories of Reject (they were used in prophecy though?)

About prophecy, yeah, that'd make sense.

[rigid mural]

reject appears in stargazer, piggyback and their own memory afaik

[harsh pecan]

Wow

[compact shale]

Their appearance in Stargazer's memory is trippy because they don't have the golden glow

It could just be another priest who looks just like them (it can happen)

[harsh pecan]

Wait they weren’t gold?

[rigid mural]

ok im gonna relive piggyback to see if they are golden here

[compact shale]

Apparently not, I might need to check for myself tho

#lore-discussion-spoilers message

[harsh pecan]

Me too

[upbeat rampart]

Alright, thank you! Will have to check them out later myself to see if they do glow gold or whether I'm having issues

[rigid mural]

they are golden in piggyback's memory

Headcanon whatever they were doing wounded them, because of the dark plant growing for this specific memory.

the spirit outside the frame is nondescript, only has a base body with no hair or noteworthy feature.

[compact shale]

Most Whisperer-type spirits are bald. Can they not afford to maintain hair or something?

[tulip aspen]

they coooOoouuuUuuulllD

[compact shale]

The ghosts of your sins are lurking behind your back... 👀👁️👁️👀

/j /lh

[rigid mural]

While I doubt all spirits have a backstory deeper than "they had this job" or "they had this personality trait", refusing voyager really intrigues me since they are on three different memories.

Especially piggyback's, why the dark plant ? what was the purpose of the orbs ? is their presence here because they may be closer to the elder (boat mask) ?

[tulip aspen]

ah yes a gravemind quote

[compact shale]

I'm gonna re-check Stargazer's memory. :)

Edit: Soon :)

[tulip aspen]

yee i suppose we should double check for such important info

[rigid mural]

Yes, I know, they don't have that golden hue there. Again, I think it's just a model error where the blue model isn't switched for the golden one since a cutscene is involved.

[compact shale]

That is, if I actually got Reject's wing node, I haven't finished ascending all the base-game spirits because I use my AC on TS so that I don't have to shrivel up and die every week because I don't have that kind of time.

Edit: Yes I forgor exactly who I already ascended

[rigid mural]

i'd offer to escort you to eden but im gonna be really busy sunday

[compact shale]

Nah, I don't have legit Sky time (to do stuff other than dailies or uber on CR) on Sundays, sorry

Thanks for the offer tho

[willow prawn]

Reminds me I need to go to Eden... Already ate my last month visit stock

[rigid mural]

Anyway I'd be interested to learn more about the refusing voyager; so far the only other spirit with elder headgear we see in a cutscene outside their own memory is apologetic lumberjack on a boat with hidenseek pioneer; perhaps they were in charge of transporting stuff as well as wood, but nothing as interesting as that isle spirit.

[compact shale]

Lumberjack's and Pioneer's memory is gold in that baot?

[rigid mural]

yes

[rigid mural]

@compact shale ^^^

[compact shale]

That's the Flight Boat, right?

Okay, looks like we know who one of Hidey's parents are

[willow prawn]

Okay okay, stop the boat

The Assembly kids are related to the spirits of Forest, be parent/auntie or uncle/grandparents anything

[upbeat rampart]

Does Narcissist even actually exist?

Always thought they were Valley apprentices (given the hand and clothes for this... it's like they're familiar with Valley elder. Also I remember Vela saying that they had a paddle, which is also shown in the image, further proving that yes, they existed before)

[willow prawn]

There's 8 spirits in forest, but Hide n Seek can only be at most a cousin or sibling

Does that mean every one of the other 7 left spirits HAS to be related to the scouts?

[compact shale]

Okay, they're definitely not golden. I just noticed something else.

The real Reject has a jar strapped to their back, while the bloke on Stargazer's memory doesn't. They're most likely just another priest, and the uniform removes all the distinctive features.

[willow prawn]

(non related but giant jar in our back when)

[compact shale]

Well, unless we count Seasonal forest spirits as part of the pool of possible relatives, then idk :(

@willow prawn Butterfly jetpack

[rigid mural]

wait till ash tells us reject has a twin, bummer
maybe reject is just off duty there. I still think it's them

[willow prawn]

Do we count Belonging as a forest season? Because even if so, it sounds weird they would be related to that big family

That leaves us with Kabuki spirit, Umbrella lad, and Blowkiss

[harsh pecan]

Maybe they shave their hair because of some religious thing

[upbeat rampart]

Could Usher be Reject's adopted kid or something and their partner looking like Reject but isn't to that post yet?

Or they could be twins/parent-child or something.

(Reject from Usher and Reject from the individual)

Also hair grows over their clothes...?

[compact shale]

Do you think this discussion is being noticed by devs? If so, then maybe we'll see something change next update

As for your question, Arabrax, not really, but I don't know if we can consider the Flight spirits either

The Flight spirits have connections with non-seasonal spirits, ash says, it doesn't mean they cant be related to Assembly, it just means they're outside the confirmation pool for now.

#lore-discussion-spoilers message

[harsh pecan]

I’ve been fooled for months…..

[rigid mural]

I don't think devs keep that much of an hawk's eye on this chat tbh

[willow prawn]

We were explicitly told, however, that they (Flight) are related to Prairie spirits (I think), so they're more of an in-between than Forest spirits properly

They don't got a single tree, either!

[compact shale]

I've always headcanoned that the ASsembly kids do have relatives outside Forest too. but it's a headcanon, so I wouldn't put it here.

[willow prawn]

An artist in Instagram headcanons Scold as a kid of Blushing, and Chuckle as kid of Lumberjack

It's cute art

[compact shale]

Nice nice

But since we don't see non-Assembly spirits in the Assembly memories and we don't see Assembly spirits anywhere else, we can't start tracing their family trees without another clue from Ash

[harsh pecan]

How do spirits reproduce? Is it just like how humans do?

[compact shale]

Yeah... I don't think you want to know...

[harsh pecan]

Oh…

[lofty void]

I’d… uh… leave that to imagination

[rigid mural]

why would you bring that up

[upbeat rampart]

I'd think it's like yeast reproduction tbh...
A bit at least and if I got my bio properly

[fickle wing]

nah it’s mitosis actually

[compact shale]

Ummmm... I think now's a good time to change the topic...

[upbeat rampart]

Well yes (Fruity, accepted, dw I'll end it quick) but like, could they even? They're stars too, right?

[compact shale]

Hmmmm... how does parents work?

[fickle wing]

omg wow haha isle elder concept art let’s change the subject.

[rigid mural]

please

[upbeat rampart]

Ok anyways then

6? Like elders?

[harsh pecan]

Omg cool concept art

[fickle wing]

geezer moment (swag)

[compact shale]

Umm the "Assembly spirits are connected to elders" thing is either lost, retconned, or Mandela'd into existence...

[rigid mural]

T MASK T MASK T MASK

[lyric isle]

not elders, forest spirits
not the elders

[fickle wing]

t for TRANS

[harsh pecan]

||y’all were talking about family trees||

[compact shale]

Are Seasonal Forest spirits (excluding Belonging and possibly Flight) included in the pool of Assembly's possible relatives?

Edit: Yes? Where'd we get that?

[rigid mural]

shut up

[fickle wing]

light awaits stuff but woo yes fireworks 4 grandpa

[harsh pecan]

Ooooo

[upbeat rampart]

..oh

[fickle wing]

more light awaits but those funky power diamonds used 2 b bigger than what we see now btw

[harsh pecan]

It looks like Teth has shiny hair

[white junco]

Smaller grandpa

[fickle wing]

girlboss <3

[compact shale]

Elder's hair conditioner when

[rigid mural]

Yeah ! Elders had a different hair texture in light awaits, funky how they changed the way it shined.

[fickle wing]

elders also used 2 b able to blink in their cutscenes which i miss a bunch

[harsh pecan]

Really? :(

[rigid mural]

i miss ayin closing their eyes to concentrate on the making of a butterfly :(

[compact shale]

Remember that shiny hair glitch? We need to get a hair conditioner accessory

TGC when

[fickle wing]

theory that if u went pspspsps 2 teth they would run @ u that is all

[rigid mural]

fire prophet can do that

[white junco]

Objectively correct theory

[rigid mural]

actually this isnt a bug, fire prophet is physically restrained when sky kids pspsps them

[fickle wing]

HELP
YEAH
every feline themed person in the kingdom just books it towards anyone going pspsps

[compact shale]

Fire Prophet's Helicopter of Back Pain

[harsh pecan]

Lololol

[fickle wing]

prophets probably all have back pain those fellas r ancient lets b real

[rigid mural]

you touch daleth and they crumble into dust

[white junco]

Combination of super old and super tall not good for anyone

[compact shale]

You know that theory that elders are made of charcoal? I don't believe in it because if Teth has been yanking everyone's light out they should be by now

[tulip aspen]

they just fall from the sky bruv

[harsh pecan]

Makes sense

[tulip aspen]

w h a t

[upbeat rampart]

Yes.
Idk

(Sorry Vela, noted, so I kept it short)

[compact shale]

*existential crisis noises
How do families of spirits work?

I have a headcanon that in the Sky the spirits are in constellations and that will connect them even in the kingdom but that's just a headcanon so don't take my word for it

[stone cargo]

#gaslight #gatekeep #girlboss

teth’s three guiding principles

[tulip aspen]

i really like they idea!

also why are we in crapposting mode rn

[fickle wing]

i miss the resh statues in isle they took them away from the geezer he doesn’t even get statues of his son poor old man

[compact shale]

Because we don't have any idea how to make spirit family trees and we won't have any idea until we Ask Ash for another clue :)

[harsh pecan]

Why did they remove the Resh statues 😭

[rigid mural]

ok i wasnt clear enough, could you guys stop talking about spirit reproductions, some people (me) are uncomfortable and we don't want to attract the attention of a mod

[upbeat rampart]

made me think that the The Light constellation skykids share a familial relationship which could be altered

[harsh pecan]

Sorry

[slender panther]

what the hell are you people talking about

[compact shale]

Why would we alter it tho?

[fickle wing]

do u like resh

[stone cargo]

sorry this is so funny to me

[upbeat rampart]

Possibly all skykids are related by Light, but few are temporarily/permanently family

[slender panther]

hell yeah i do krii

[harsh pecan]

Eyyy another King-Liker :D

[raw crypt]

reshphobia

[stone cargo]

omg hiii lore chat

[fickle wing]

i miss her so much they had a girlboss priestess in valley but </3

[slender panther]

Hello lore chat did u know that i’m a lesbian

[stone cargo]

headcannon: Fruit (Narcissist) used to be Resh’s jester. Resh made him wear a clown costume to keep him from@his true #yassification.

[fickle wing]

JESTER FRUIT SO TRUE
jingling around in his outfit like a fool

[slender panther]

i miss my wife krii. i miss her a lot. i’ll be back 😞

[harsh pecan]

I will always remember you, Priestess :(

[rigid mural]

WHAT i never saw that concept ? this is so cool ???
I wish we could race against the twins and it ends with them leading us to GW

[upbeat rampart]

That's the gamewise take, in the actual constellation, maybe because they fade into oblivion overtime when they start to not appear/interact with us anymore

[fickle wing]

yknow what’s kinda funky
how in this concept u got the king symbol on the isle door
and isle is where the prince fell and daleth is the one who raised the king and

[rigid mural]

oho but in live that symbol is still here, lights up when the door opens ! seen above it tho

[slender panther]

daleth is the best elder ever if u disagree ur just a hater. #BlockTheHaters

[stone cargo]

The fool. Resh’s jester (he hates his job)

[fickle wing]

daleth IS the best elder actually ur so right
old man rlly doesn’t get enough love and it sucks cause he’s such a funky fella like have u seen his results on the elder polls </3

[slender panther]

this slowmode frying my brain!! i’m dying!! help me!! ahh!!!!

[fickle wing]

resh calling his fruity little jester

[stone cargo]

HELPME

[harsh pecan]

I don’t like it too, atleast it’s not 1 min anymore

[slender panther]

i wonder what terrible human could have possibly been behind the cause of this! the horror

[fickle wing]

sometimes i remember the 30 minute slowmode from fer.al official discord

[stone cargo]

the slowmode is #cringe

[slender panther]

agree anyway back to lore what were we talking about again

[fickle wing]

resh

HELP THE REACTIONS

[rigid mural]

[stone cargo]

this man is fruity

[slender panther]

never forget what they took from you ^

[harsh pecan]

…the white outfit looks so good

[fickle wing]

oh he is definitely fruity like
no man who dresses like thst is str8

[stone cargo]

he was so limp wristed,,, where’s my gay little man

[rigid mural]

gloating narcissist is gay

[compact shale]

Now you know why my about me says what it says :)

[fickle wing]

g in gloat is for GAY #lgbt

[slender panther]

wait are there people actually lurking in this chat. i’m so sorry for you

[stone cargo]

gay be upon you

[icy spruce]

fruit bowl

[rigid mural]

gay
lesbian
o
ace
trans

[compact shale]

lmao im ace

[slender panther]

tag urself I’m the L (lesbian) in GLOAT

[frigid tinsel]

"the character is lgbt"
"what, all at once?"

[stone cargo]

omni!

[icy spruce]

omni?????

NOO TOO LATE

[rigid mural]

Unfortunately gloat is also french

[slender panther]

it’s ok. i forgive him

[upbeat rampart]

(personally this could be shifted to another chat like general...)

[harsh pecan]

Yea but the topic is cool

[fickle wing]

wth transgender

[frigid tinsel]

lore-wise, devs confirmed that gender doesn't exist in Sky so everyone is agender/nonbinary, you can take that out of my cold dead heads
(yes, there is gender coding, I know, nonbinry people can look like anything)

[compact shale]

What has lorechat become...

[icy spruce]

last time that happened, it didn’t end well

[rigid mural]

It's them, it's the T

[stone cargo]

ok 🤨

[upbeat rampart]

Wait what

[fickle wing]

i miss vulture geezer he was so swag #cool

[harsh pecan]

What happened? (I’m just curious)

[frigid tinsel]

liked that I came into lore chat being queer and funky 🤘 🏳️‍🌈

[fickle wing]

actually hold up actual theory here that ties into the lgbt talk
i like 2 think that the events in sky are actually things the ancestors celebrated back when they were alive n all that jazz like days of mischief n feast n stuff
which means days of rainbow was p much the kingdom equivalent of pride

[upbeat rampart]

Also is color changing by clothes any lore to y'all or just stylistic choice by TGC?

[rigid mural]

Honestly what I think Gratitude and Rythm are about

[compact shale]

Wait a minute... how do most orientations even exist in a world without gender? /gen

[frigid tinsel]

there are nonbinary-specific labels (like enbian, which is nblnb)but i would say in a world without gender there wouldn't really be orientations as we know them.
irl tho nonbinary people can still call themselves gay/straight/lesbian/achillean/etc if they feel it fits them. nonbinary encompasses a broad spectrum of gender that may or may not be aligned to a binary gender

[white junco]

There might be orientations based on different types of presentation rather than gender? Idk how attraction works so

[stone cargo]

omg spadeeee hiii

[shut trellis]

wait whats going on in lore chat
also, does gender not exist in sky or are spirits' genders androgynous?(as like, it exists but up to interpretation)

[lyric isle]

I think gender works completely differently in Sky’s world
too tired to explain

[stone cargo]

post this image

[frigid tinsel]

devs said there's no gender in Sky so technically everyone is agender

[shut trellis]

i remember that

[compact shale]

Alright... I'll try to process that the best I can...

[slender panther]

ok.

[upbeat rampart]

I really think it's from andro, masc and fem presenting rather than genders

[slender panther]

nvm actually i have no idea what the hell y’all are even talking about anymore 💀

[fickle wing]

throwback to when geezer went ham w his staff

[frigid tinsel]

in a world with no gender, they wouldn't hand a concept of fem, masc, or androgynous. those are coding we apply from our world

[shut trellis]

so there is no gender? absolutely no gender ?

[white junco]

Not a single scrap

[rigid mural]

gender is stored in the teth

[fickle wing]

the king stole all the gender

[slender panther]

teth is my wife btw

[stone cargo]

gender? i hardly know her

[compact shale]

So... do orientations exist in Sky or not? (Note: Events are usually tie-ins to the real world that are not related to the lore)

[icy spruce]

genderman, always stealing genders pls genderman, I want my gender back pls I have 3 cats that I have to feed

[stone cargo]

depends on what you think

[harsh pecan]

lol

[frigid tinsel]

perhaps the labels we use in our world don't exist

[fickle wing]

who knows events might b related 2 lore such as stuff spirits celebrated idk im not a dev

[rigid mural]

i think rallying thrillseeker is gay

[shut trellis]

wait
what about the gay cape do they just like rainbows? or does it represent something
or arent they all technically gay since there is no gender, meaning everyone has the same gender, therefore they are always attracted to the same gender?

[stone cargo]

also ehh— i disagree. the events tend to change in world events, and (gone) there’s a high chance that they were real things to the world

[white junco]

I'd guess that they do bc people all end up different, but it's hard to speculate about what orientations might be like in a world that never had genders

[frigid tinsel]

btw not allowed to talk about beta stuff here, even behind a spoiler

[compact shale]

(referring to the Fortune Dragon)

#beta-discussion message

I've just been assuming this for all events, also Starboy please delete your message

[rigid mural]

Joke answer: they had gay pride in valley
Truthfully: devs stated they may bend the rules and do stuff that arent entirely canon for events, perhaps it's the case for days of rainbow

[slender panther]

why does starboy need to delete his message

[frigid tinsel]

beta info isn't allowed outside of beta channels

[stone cargo]

the beta part is gone tho

[fickle wing]

eh who cares rlly it’s still fun 2 think of that as a thing

• that’s only for the dragon so

[compact shale]

Well yeah, I assume the events aren't canon so... yeah idk if gay exists in Sky

[rigid mural]

rallying thrillseeker is gay tho

[slender panther]

Yeah it does teth just called me and told me she was a lesbian so idk

[shut trellis]

then thats okay

[compact shale]

Idk if you've ascended Rally before this but this is Ktjn's statement on the matter

#beta-discussion message

[fickle wing]

hidden forest? nah that’s sapphic forest im just saying

[white junco]

Gay people are everywhere

[slender panther]

everyone in hidden forest r all non-binary lesbians im sorry i don’t make the rules i just enforce them

[fickle wing]

didn’t devs say stuff is also up 4 interpretation most of the time like
bro just let ppl have their fun n say this silly little fella is gay

[frigid tinsel]

the genderqueer urge to write Sky fanfic and assertively they/them every character but respecting other people's interpretations and headcanons at the same time

[shut trellis]

everyone is gay unless they are aroace or ace, aro, y'know. imo

[compact shale]

It's... it's a dev statement pal...

[slender panther]

ay mi madre porfavor callate la boca

[stone cargo]

colin. behave.

[fickle wing]

yeah and the up for interpretation thing is. Also a dev statement

[white junco]

Did you miss the part about interpretation

[rigid mural]

Unfortunately the lore is up to interpretation, and I think it would be fun if Rally came out as gay in june. I will disregard what Ktjn said in my headcanons, but thank you for the concern !

[slender panther]

hiii star ur my bff

[compact shale]

AAaAAAAA yikes! But yeah, from the canonchaser's perspective, we can't really assume orientations when no one has gender.

[stone cargo]

it’s. it’s up to headcannon tho. the devs say that like. all the time.

[white junco]

People without gender can still have orientations I know like 6 of them

[fickle wing]

bro i have no gender and im omni so.

[icy spruce]

yknow what, get Resh’d

[slender panther]

people without gender can still have orientation i am literally standing right here i am literally a lesbian with no gender im so sorry to tell u this

[white junco]

now I know 8 good times

[shut trellis]

everyone is gay. because.
no one has gender therefore they are all attracted to the same gender, which is none. a gay non-binary world i guess. thats still my opinion but i can share it. (of course its still up to interpretation for everyone)

[slender panther]

Anyway

[compact shale]

You don't have to apologize. Ah well, anyhow... Hm. ...

Yeah, I can't participate in this discussion anymore... canonchaser is too strong...

[stone cargo]

ok

[slender panther]

???????????? 💀💀💀 baiii! 😛

[harsh pecan]

Oh bye

[rigid mural]

what the hell

[fickle wing]

who took grandpas arm wth

[harsh pecan]

[rigid mural]

the elders are most likely haunted by their past

[slender panther]

me i did i ated it

[frigid tinsel]

wonder if the elders got hurt in the Eden boom or hurt each other

[compact shale]

Yeah, there was a concept of each elder missing something. Can anyone elaborate on which part that was?

[fickle wing]

omg colin why would u do that

[white junco]

Poor Gramps was still using that arm

[shut trellis]

im a canon-chaser (if thats what canonchaser means lmao) too, but canonically, they don't have genders. anything further than that is up to interpretations. but bye!

[rigid mural]

enough with that topic

[slender panther]

MY INTERPRETATION. of resh kinda remind me of bruno from encanto the rest is spoilers so i’ll leave it like that

[shut trellis]

sorry, i just take forever to type so i had to get that out late

[harsh pecan]

I’m not sure but I’ll try to find it

[fickle wing]

nb lesbian girlboss moment
also wondering wth is up w that hole in er chest
like
their heart is missing

[wispy canopy]

Where is the link for the art?

[harsh pecan]

Maybe the missing heart is symbolic

[dark copper]

HHHEYYY

[compact shale]

Quite a tragedy, eh? They can't love the way they used to in this state...

[shut trellis]

thats creepy. but cool!

[white junco]

Lesbians are powerful that way

[rigid mural]

no problem, I'm not a mod, I'm just not doing too good with some of the replies here

[hushed steeple]

Brbrbr what is this

[dark copper]

Oh hel no this chat cluttered BYE SIS ✌️

[rigid mural]

The elders missing body parts concept is so cool, you could extrapolate what they lost in that eden cataclysm

[fickle wing]

ill b real with u chief i forget where i get all the concepts i find half of the time so

[wispy canopy]

Hahha thx for telling tho,also hewwo

[shut trellis]

When is it not cluttered? /hj

[harsh pecan]

Look up “Forest Elder Concept Art” idk

[frigid tinsel]

https://www.tomzhao.com/sky1

[wispy canopy]

Is it by Tom Zhao?

[rigid mural]

like here, right arms are usually synonymous to crafting, working etc, did daleths lose the ability for consequential action ? that would b so cool if they told that this way

[slender panther]

what is what

[fickle wing]

wasnt ayin missing a foot actually wait hold on

kinda crispy pic but

[rigid mural]

And as for teth's heart, obviously it can be love, but also it can be emotions or even hopes (since there's all this stuff in stories about seeing with your heart), were they hit by the truth so brutally they stopped hoping for a better world

[slender panther]

YASSSSS

[compact shale]

Ayin's foot loss could symbolize them losing their will/ability to continue the journey, I heard they've been assoicated with laziness...

[harsh pecan]

Woah

[rigid mural]

losing a foot, maybe a loss of stability, perhaps ayin could have tried to do mental gymnastics to avoid admitting or seeing stuff is going awry (concept ayin was litterally asleep, lost of depressive folks also do that)

[fickle wing]

i don’t think it’s laziness tbh
maybe burnout or something
esp since their prophecy light element thing is earth n the whole theme w earth trial was resilience
that could lead 2 burnout tho so

[slender panther]

thank u omg

[white junco]

could symbolize losing the ability to stand up for what they believe in and letting wrongs happen, that ties into the burnout and losing hope elements

[rigid mural]

!!! it's like...! maybe ayin was trudging on, holding on their last strands of hope they know are fickle but at the end even godly resilience wasnt enough to face an apocalypse

[compact shale]

Oh goodness, to be resilient for too long without trying to take action... yeah, that definitely leads to some awful stuff, I can say that as a Filipino

[icy spruce]

angstangstangstangst

[fickle wing]

on the topic of ayin actually here’s a smallyin from the concepts

[slender panther]

sleepy

[compact shale]

sunbathing smolyin

[white junco]

Sleepy friend

[fickle wing]

the prophecy lights n their respective trial themes also leads 2 some p interesting things w the other elders n how it could b tied to their downfalls
like i said ayin n resilience leading 2 burnout
teth was patience n that could become inaction or impatience 4 something
samekh w balance idk they become unbalanced and it’s esp interesting w the whole theme of things in valley being 2 and in the architecture around there w 2 things one side is often seen as broken
as for tsadi there’s courage which. Recklessness

[upbeat rampart]

Leg could be for losing control of some sort, probably of themselves. Could symbolise disappointment in themselves as a result.

About the heart... probably morals? A proper goal?

[white junco]

Ok but it is interesting how many of the elders injuries you could tie to hopelessness and inaction

[rigid mural]

Depending on how you take it, being obsessed with balance/things being symmetric could cause some strife when about living creatures, especially since the twins seem to be often on a stage and may play roles.
Perhaps this obsession with balance could have led to toxic sibling rivalry.
Angst ?

[upbeat rampart]

Honestly it seems like Teth () was waiting for something to happen and took it upon themselves to make it happen to a point it looks desperate (I think)

[fickle wing]

kinda funky how. Both the elders (lamed n daleth) that didn’t receive lights have ties to the king in some way

[rigid mural]

Or even soreness from your stage persona invading your private life (see most people seeing gordon ramsay as an angry and agressive man when irl he is like, a dude)

[white junco]

So all the elders r really depressed

[fickle wing]

they r so sad my poor little meow meows

[white junco]

They just like me fr

[rigid mural]

every single character in sky needs therapy

[fickle wing]

i think we should put them all on a boat n send them to a nice vacation they need it

[shut trellis]

every. single. darn. character. but thats the problem, then there are no therapists. unless they can all give therapy to each other

[white junco]

Leave the skykids in charge and take a break nothing will go wrong I promise 😁

[fickle wing]

yes nothing will go wrong At All

[slender panther]

i’m gonna be reshs therapist from now on all of u back off

[compact shale]

Sky: Therapy Simulator

[shut trellis]

can i be alef's therapist then? /j /lh i cant do therapy

[shut trellis]

Is that a good thing, or a bad thing?

[harsh pecan]

If Resh had therapy maybe things would’ve been different :(

[compact shale]

It's... it's a thing

[slender panther]

no sorry

[white junco]

Good of y'all to step in I'm not sure anyone in sky is qualified to be a therapist

[raw crypt]

hang on im bad at thinking but I’m thinking about heartless teth- and maybe it’s that sense of hardening up, like how a molten blade must cool, I get the feeling of teth might have gotten so dedicated to their craft that everything else became obselete in a way? if that makes sense

listen i think abt the tlp spirit tie ins to the realms- lamplighter was forest

teth seems a bit desperate..? like the way they grab the light from the skykid to continue working,
as if a job was never fully completed- as if work will fill the void that it created in a way?
its easy to become tunnel visioned on a goal and if teth was really pressured (like a diamond) to create and help the progress of a kingdom with darkstone, that’d make sense, thats their role they wish to fufill, and so they become desperate which becomes impatience

b

[fickle wing]

yknow
i don’t think resh did anything wrong actually he was just in a silly goofy mood

[slender panther]

tbh 😜 hes my poor little meow meow he didn’t do anything 😐😐😐😐

[queen condor]

wot about a krill as a therapist

[shut trellis]

yes. but they need therapy too

[fickle wing]

OH THIS IS SUCH A FUNKY THOUGHT ACTUALLY

[white junco]

Wait what shape is the hole in teths chest

[slender panther]

circle ⭕️

[white junco]

Curses

[rigid mural]

SLINK YOUR MIND
THATS PRETTY CLOSE TO WHAT I THINK TBH
like teth snatching light was more of a reflex than anything tbh, they bury themselves into their work to not look at the horror outside of it

[queen condor]

Donut

[fickle wing]

oh. My god oh no horrible silly thought
yknow those shape puzzles kids play like
this one

trying to fit a darkstone diamond into the round hole in teth’s chest

[slender panther]

HELP i’ve always wanted to eat those

[rigid mural]

WHEEZES

[raw crypt]

OAHSHDHD

[fickle wing]

teth trying to replace er heart w darkstone like

[white junco]

YES THATS WHAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT maybe if the hole is a circle then it's a trying to fit a square peg in a round hole situation, trying to fix something with a solution that will never work

Krii beat me to the punch oop

[raw crypt]

AUH… that hurts…..

[shut trellis]

poor teth

[rigid mural]

down to hammering it i swear to megan

[fickle wing]

HEJLP

[hushed steeple]

Current Teth

Is totally able to

Launch Concept Teth into orbit with a hammer

[fickle wing]

nah concept teth would gaslight girlboss gatekeep er way to victory in a fight trust me have u seen them like
im just saying

[white junco]

beta teth is way more feral and would probably not need to use a weapon, allowing them to fight close range where current teth's hammer wouldn't be very effective

[tulip aspen]

the hell happened here

[white junco]

teth vs teth

[tulip aspen]

I really should put some analysis into it ive just been super busy guys sorry

dont worry yall im sure there's a (more) logical explanation

[tulip aspen]

what are these headcanons

[white junco]

quality

[fickle wing]

wouldnt u like 2 know weatherboy

[tulip aspen]

srsly tho we may not always need ash

after all, the iNtrO tEllS uS eVeRytHinG (ash's words not just mine

[hushed steeple]

Yeah it just basically been repeatedly walking into chaos as I check my discords

[tulip aspen]

"And today the sky will be j a z z"
honks sax

[fickle wing]

hey shenanigans w speculation sprinkled in are fun at least
helps w more serious theories too in some cases

[tulip aspen]

always true krii
once i stop multitasking ill read all the chaos

[rigid iron]

this is how i cram my ideas into the lore

my ideas about Daleth would vaporize most of you and leave few survivors

[slender panther]

i would be one of the survivors

[fringe hare]

Awesome

[rigid iron]

Daleth: our champion ♥️

[slender panther]

me when daleth comes up to me: omg who’re you?

[rigid iron]

You get one chance at an answer that will turn him to dust

[slender panther]

HELP

[fickle wing]

daleth champion of parenthood dude had to raise some kid that fell from the sky(alef) #bestdad

[slender panther]

u know what else he’s the champion of

[rigid iron]

The nintendo switch trailer shows a green isle and as we know it is now covered in sand, which is meant to reflect his f

[slender panther]

MY MOM 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭!!!!!!!

[fickle wing]

COLIN.

fr tho that man is probably a KING at shuffleboard

[slender panther]

HELP

Resh would be just like the guy in my pfp

Have any of you people (not counting sky enjoyers hi) Considered that maybe resh had the personality of “just some guy.” You’d walk down the street and go “Oh hey, that’s resh! The king! Yeah I saw him at walmart yesterday. Nice guy.”

[fickle wing]

he gives me divorced vibes

[slender panther]

YEAH he’d see his now divorced partner in the eggs aisle in publix and go “remember me?? it’s ur eggs-husband!!!”

[rigid iron]

this is canon

[robust flare]

Idk the full context of this conversation, but I think the king probably got so high up that he literally didn't know he was destroying his kingdom

[rigid iron]

My brain completely skipped over up and i was about to agree wholeheartedly

[robust flare]

It's late here so I should go. I think my brain is probably too tired to understand anything

[slender panther]

Resh when he saw the entirety of civilization collapse because of him: whoopsie daisy😭 mondays am i right 🤪

[robust flare]

So embarrassing. Sorry everyone, I accidentally killed you! Lots of love

[rigid iron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/908085808022577253/908541667827662858/image0.gif

[slender panther]

LMAOAOA

[rigid iron]

Krii is suffering

[fickle wing]

i think resh n tsadi should hold hands guys

[slender panther]

krii you got this i believe in you

[robust flare]

I saw a drawing of Daleth and Ayin kissing I think

[slender panther]

WOOOOOO

[fickle wing]

DAYIN IS SWAG

geezers in love

[slender panther]

☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️

[fickle wing]

he would be SO good at bingo

[slender panther]

walk into the bingo place and see daleth

reshdi

[nova breach]

the king and tsadi are in love it’s canon btw I would know

[fickle wing]

gotta love the royalty and guard trope

[neat flint]

Bruno 💀

[icy spruce]

100%, I was at their wedding

[slender panther]

i was also there it happened on twitter im@not even kidding

[rigid iron]

For real though what's he got all those Resh statues for 🤨

[fickle wing]

omg same 🍊

[nova breach]

HELPPP

[slender panther]

what does he need like 10 statues of him at his temple for 😭😭😭

[rigid iron]

Aww i lost my reshdi wedding pic with resh dress

[fickle wing]

bro they’re so fruity fr

[slender panther]

fr🏳️‍🌈

[rigid iron]

nvm i found it

[lofty void]

HAGUAHXVSJAJABAJAOAA

[fickle wing]

love wins

[slender panther]

AT OLIVE GARDEN AND EVERYTHING

[compact shale]

Here comes the groom,
As skinny as a broom.

[lofty void]

I COME IN HERE AND THE FIRST THING I SEE IS RESHDI, LOVE THAT /gen

[compact shale]

Are the mods looking at us

[icy spruce]

nah

[lofty void]

maybe

[neat flint]

They prob lurking here

[rigid mural]

Mods are asleep

[upbeat rampart]

I walk into chat and I see the resh statues and reshdi
(And it's like 35 second cooldown)

[nova breach]

resh at his wedding 🥺

[fickle wing]

who officiated the wedding

[lofty void]

HAHSHHSUSBSBSJA PLEASE

[stone cargo]

hrgh reshdi. i like to think they got divorced and resh would show up on his porch every night after drinking dark water, looking like a wet kitten

edit: what’s that react for i just wanna talk ☺️

[fickle wing]

HELP

[slender panther]

I CSNT

[compact shale]

FLY AWAY, MY PRETTIES! FLY AWAYYYYY!!!

[lofty void]

💃i am going to wake up my parents with my laughter 🕺

[rigid iron]

he's so divorced

[stone cargo]

the face of a thrice divorced man (priestess, tsadi, and tsadi again bc tsadi tried to give him a second chance)

[rigid iron]

HELP

[lofty void]

JWHAHAHDJJAVA I AM IN TEARS 💀🤚

[harsh pecan]

LOL

[slender panther]

MY FAVE GIF EVER

[lofty void]

fam i

[slender panther]

if they are then i need to run and hide

[proven geyser]

I see you

[stone cargo]

in my personal interpretation resh and tsadi split the realms into opposing sides, kicking off a civil war— but resh was not for it bc he missed his husband 🥲 lamed had to shake him like a ragdoll and force him to get his act together so their side of the war didn’t get pummeled.

like. lamed had to peel a passed out resh, reeking of dark water, whining about his ex off of his throne, and tried her best to make him look presentable for his soldiers

[compact shale]

Here's a box. 🥡 Hide inside

*throws the box off the Wasteland vortex

[slender panther]

i literally love ur divorced resh interpretation so much

[lofty void]

[stone cargo]

resh divorce arc (he is not coping well. tsadi is coping ok ish he wants to not alive his ex)

[fickle wing]

divorced resh is such a fun interpretation of him because everyone hypes him up to be so mysterious and cool and then you have this pathetic mess crying over his ex at like 4 am w a tub of icecream

[rigid iron]

pathetic divorce guy > cool and equally mysterious ruler

*cups Resh in my hands like a tiny bird* what is wrong with you

[rigid mural]

You guys are so hellbent on microwaving a guy that doesn't exist.

[rigid iron]

YEAH you get it

[compact shale]

Lorechat has been placing things in the microwave and drizzling rainbow gay sauce on them for quite a while now.

[fickle wing]

i would put him in a washing machine

[rigid iron]

it's true, rainbow gay sauce makes everything so much better. the flavor is *chefs kiss* immaculate

[fickle wing]

putting the entire sky cast in a whole vat of gay sauce and they come out exactly the same

[white junco]

The rainbow gay sauce is crucial for microwaving otherwise everything comes out sad

[lofty void]

We stan gay sky elders.

[fickle wing]

SO TRUE

i feel like resh is dishwasher safe

[white junco]

But is he dryer safe

[fickle wing]

let’s find out

[compact shale]

NO NOOOOOOO

[white junco]

yesssss set him to tumble dry 😈

[raw crypt]

< i do this to resh

[rigid mural]

You put him in the dryer and he comes out shrinked

[fickle wing]

that’s how u get alef

[compact shale]

Resh has reverted to Ale- AH YOU BEAT ME TO IT

[jaunty tapir]

Oh hello lore chat, funky topic we have here

[fickle wing]

oh my god wait wheres the microwaved alef pictures i made hold on

[slender panther]

does this to alef

[fickle wing]

https://krillking.tumblr.com/post/658708591821340672/pov-ur-megabird this

[rigid mural]

This chat to my brain

[white junco]

I touch a fork to a wall socket and this chat gets zapped into my brain

[fickle wing]

do u think they had hydraulic presses in the sky kingdom v important question

[slender panther]

yes i used them all the time

[fickle wing]

darkstone vs hydraulic press

[rigid mural]

That's what caused the Eden explosion.

[white junco]

Resh was filming one of those objects vs hydraulic press videos 😔 rip sky realms

[slender panther]

darkstone would taste good

[fickle wing]

i feel like it would break ur teeth if u tried biting it

[rigid mural]

Darkstone tastes like switch cartridges actually.

[slender panther]

yummy yum

[fickle wing]

switch cartridges taste weird ngl

[white junco]

Yeah they're supposed to

[rigid mural]

Krii

[compact shale]

Someone on the Cookie Run server made art of a cookie made with darkstone. It's as edgy as you think it is.

[fickle wing]

wait what

[rigid mural]

You mean the nft game ???

[white junco]

They're made to taste nasty so little kids don't swallow them

[compact shale]

The soon-to-be NFT game maybe

[fickle wing]

yass lamed

[slender panther]

normal resh: yassified
corrupted resh: naurified

[white junco]

Can't believe they yassified lamed

[rigid mural]

Lamed glowup

[fickle wing]

that’s her b4 er transition

[slender panther]

TRYE TRUEEE TURE TRUE TRUEUWUWUW TRUEEE RURURURUTTRUE

[white junco]

YES YES YES UR SO RIGHT

[fickle wing]

daleth 🤝 lamed
geezers
didn’t get a prophecy light
trans

[slender panther]

u never miss

[fickle wing]

EVIL krii theory resh is French because the little prince is French and resh used 2 b a prince

[rigid mural]

Resh is british

[white junco]

Resh vs little prince

[fickle wing]

bold of u to assume resh wouldnt start sobbing when the little prince invites him on an adventure

[compact shale]

HAHAH

I once had a headcanon that in-universe, TLP was created by a group of Vault scholars that hated Alef and wanted a new prince

[fickle wing]

wghat

[compact shale]

HA. HA. HA.

[rigid mural]

drizzling rainbow gay sauce on the vault scholars

[fickle wing]

I MEAN. ACOLYTE N THE RHYTHM DIRECTOR ARE KINDA

[slender panther]

LESBIANS

[fickle wing]

gal pals amiright

[rigid mural]

Oh yeah, they are... best friends

[white junco]

Living together for thousands of years in the afterlife 🥺 hashtag best friend goals

[fickle wing]

i like to think that the poem that goes along w the directors mask pin is. Actually abt acolyte
esp w the last part

[rigid mural]

Your mind. Headcanon accepted.

[raw crypt]

taht just gave me the sweetest drawing composition idea taking that omggg

[compact shale]

Rhythm Troupe Practicing in Vault
Thoughtful: Alright, gang, let's practice here!
3 hours later...
Troupe Greeter: Ahhh, why are we only practicing the romantic songs?
Thoughtful: Yeeeeeeeeeesssssssssss.

[outer kernel]

Hi

[fickle wing]

they’re rlly out here

[lofty void]

and they were roomates

[compact shale]

HEY VELA, HAVE YOU ASCENDED PRAYING ACOLYTE YET?!

[fickle wing]

im krii

[tulip aspen]

[compact shale]

Lorechat is still chaotic. Things might get buried during this time.

[outer kernel]

What is the topic of lore discussion right now?

[lofty void]

director and acolyte being “gal pals”

[outer kernel]

I was litrally told not to do screenshots on here

[fickle wing]

spirit and elder hcs atm
speculation on all that jazz yknow

[compact shale]

Drizzling rainbow gay sauce on the choiciest spirits of Sky (yes that is really the topic.)

[white junco]

No spirit is denied the rainbow gay sauce equality is important

[fickle wing]

it’s related to the topic atm tho so.

[tulip aspen]

ikikik ill just

sit and watch

finally got time off so i can bear witness to.... whatever this is

[lofty void]

ok but who else hcs that juggler is bi

[compact shale]

Would you like a popcorn and some butter? 🍿🧈

[tulip aspen]

not spam/flood chat with screenshots lmao

also we're just in lorememe mode

it's a real thing and it's beautiful

chat cant be filled with me being boring and unaccepting of everyone 24/7, so i welcome this

[stone cargo]

Resh crying into Lamed’s hijab, his hands sticky with ice cream and snot getting on the back of her head because her adopted son can’t get over the fact his husband left him and almost took the kids. they have plans for an ambush on the wastes tomorrow morning and she’s trying to get him to go to bed so he can command their troops.

[fickle wing]

HELP

[rigid mural]

Hey, I appreciate you thinking about me but Krii's screenshot clearly shows they have the golden hues of ascension already lol

[tulip aspen]

thats good too but a s c e n d them vela

the resize restock will have to wait

[compact shale]

OH! OHH??! THANK YOU!

[fickle wing]

lamed having 2 deal w the king just being the most pathetic man in the entire castle
she rlly should’ve girlbossed it up and yoinked the throne when she could im just saying queen lamed would b kinda

[rigid mural]

???

[white junco]

Really should've

[tulip aspen]

can someone show me the screnshot pls

[rigid mural]

What

[compact shale]

oyo

#lore-discussion-spoilers message

[stone cargo]

in my interp she wanted to take the throne from him when he was young and betray him/get rid of him but she got attached— so now she sits bitterly thinking about what could’ve been had she been crowned, and helps her son dry his tears after tsadi tells him he can’t come in his house anymore.

[rigid mural]

Izma

[compact shale]

Izma what?

[rigid mural]

Izma time to go, bya

[white junco]

Bye!!!

[lofty void]

Seeya

[tulip aspen]

thanks!

[rigid iron]

Yzma energy

Pull the lever, Tsadi!

[lofty void]

Wrong lever!

[compact shale]

Yzma fell down the Wasteland Vortex.

[white junco]

Why do we even have that lever

[rigid iron]

In Eden?? He's supposed to be DEAD

[rigid mural]

Ohhhh it's a "Y" not a "I"........

[tulip aspen]

is that my ?
is that myyyyyy ??????

[oblique oasis]

I mean there was a theory that all the elders had court jobs
Isle - prev king
Prairie - agricultural
Forest - tech advancement
Valley - jesters
Wasteland - military
Vault - advisor
So if fruit is the twins' apprentice then he likely would've been a low level jester

[oblique oasis]

Personally think it would've made more sense with no darkstone on it since it's the first and purist realm

[nocturne marsh]

vela spitting facts

[oblique oasis]

Well they are very focused on light and rainbows are light

[oblique oasis]

They were all missing body parts in the original concept art iirc

[oblique oasis]

Destroyed Forest for darkstone, darkstone killed everyone, so I'd say yes

[rigid mural]

drizzling rainbow gay sauce on you

[nocturne marsh]

See? Facts

[oblique oasis]

I ship acolyte and thoughtful director now thanks

Got the wrong person

[nocturne marsh]

Who’s lamed

[quick terrace]

vault elder

[harsh pecan]

Vault Elder’s concept name

[nocturne marsh]

Wait Jay important question

Slowmode so true

Do you know some May by any chance

[nocturne marsh]

Is it iamed or lamed

[harsh pecan]

It’s Lamed

[nocturne marsh]

Haha lame haha (that’s a joke, please don’t crucify me)

[quick terrace]

ya?

[nocturne marsh]

I already said it

[quick terrace]

ah, sorry didn’t realise

[nocturne marsh]

This @quick terrace

[quick terrace]

Ohh

[quick terrace]

I don’t think so?

[nocturne marsh]

That’s unfortunate. I have some friend named May who writes “Jay 💍❤️” in her notes every time there’s a meditation task

[compact shale]

Which Jay...?

[quick terrace]

Ah I see, must be a different one then! I once got invited to join a server of others named Jay.

[nocturne marsh]

Nawh, it just would have been funny if it was that Jay

[tulip aspen]

is there any strong material about belonging (or any other spirits) being a family, other than the belonging spirits names which are obvious takeaways

[tulip aspen]

there's million jays out there, and at least 100 of them have a significant other named may who writes that iirc /hj

[nocturne marsh]

Yeah, but it’s a game that not all people in the world play and it’s a global version too (not Chinese), so that would have been funny

[harsh pecan]

Pretty sure it was mentioned somewhere, I could be wrong tho

[tulip aspen]

like, id appreciate it it could get listed out to me by anyone in general lol

[median stone]

Aiyaiyai im ur little butterfly

[nimble ingot]

Green, black and blue
make the colours in the sky

[jaunty tapir]

the in-game guide text for when the season started explicitly says "a family of spirits is scattered over the kingdoms of Sky" i just joined a few months ago but I saw some videos about it in yt

[pastel brook]

ktjn's clones are watching

[nimble ingot]

which ones though?

[compact shale]

What do you mean "Which ones?"

[nimble ingot]

I was curious to know how many are we dealing with. That and what would the odds be if one of them is the original.

[nocturne marsh]

Boom boom boom I want you in my room

[harsh pecan]

How much clones are there anyways?

[compact shale]

300k

[harsh pecan]

What if we’re Ktjn clones but we just dont know it

[tulip aspen]

nice thanks!

still not close to reaching a verdict on an that, been meditating hard on it during my day but no real avail

the best answer would be "yeah they just found each other and bonded to each other" but it just may not work out, and i can't be so short and simple (guy in back: why not)

the grandparents could've adopted the children, then the child of the light is sent the elder and then the child goes to face the trials, trials that had killed dozens of ancestors determined to keep fighting the take l trials

[compact shale]

Verdict on what?

[harsh pecan]

I think its about the Belonging Family

[compact shale]

mm yea
im sneppy

[rigid mural]

Are you mixing up Belonging and Prophecy ? Imo they are two distinct events.

[compact shale]

Yeah they are

How'd that happen?

I'm confused

[harsh pecan]

Could you elaborate a bit on that last part? Im confused

[shut trellis]

Lore chat seems a bit sleepy today, and im not talking about inactivity.
Although tfw a short dude beats the trials many taller dudes couldn't do.

[pastel brook]

#lore-discussion-spoilers definitely needs some SNEEP SNORP

[shut trellis]

shush ktjn clone.