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night cliff
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Yay pAww
Season's not even out yet and we're already memeing one of the Spirits to Eden and back

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Also, putting the whole conversation off the rails for a second-
Let's talk about the Elders,,,, tombstones?? Their altar stues, at least, but I consider their altars to be their Graves, so, yeah-
Why do they have those steps at the bottom? Is it an architectural thing? Does it serve a purpose?? Does it hold a meaning???
And, is the fact that there's a diamond shaped hole in all the statues chest hold a purpose, or some kind of symbolism?

autumn lodge
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Maybe a special power diamond was meant to be placed in there to increase the elders’ power, but it never happened bc of the eden explosion-

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Also forgive me if I am wrong, but I don’t think having a spirit with valley elders pants is too far-fetched bc I think one of the forest spirits (apologetic lumberjack) has the same diamond shaped mask as the forest elder, so maybe it isn’t as unusual for a spirit to share cosmetics with an elder as we might think

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It could be a sign of favor, like how we are granted elder’s hair for fully completing their constellations, but idk

sharp lichen
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wait, what spirit looks like the valley elders?

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i'm guessing the one on the far right?

lofty void
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the one with the egotistical looken hair pEyes

autumn lodge
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The one raising their hands in the air I think, their pants are the same or very similar as the valley elders’

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It is interesting how one of their arms seems segmented, also like the valley elders 👀

livid valley
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which

autumn lodge
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I think both valley elders each have one segmented arm, but the narcissist spirits left arm is the segmented one

mossy pagoda
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Cloning experiment gone wrong perhaps

icy spruce
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lmao

livid valley
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why clone

mossy pagoda
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Just a joke xD

icy spruce
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hallo lore chat, any dark theories you know or stuff that seems not-so-known

lofty rover
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Dark Plants not just feed on the dark emotions but also propagate them. So their food (negative emotions/ darkness) never runs out.

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Tiny Jellyfish fear us and there is tiny jellyfish hair... coincidence? Idk

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And uh.. when your friends die in Eden with you, you can't save them. you experience helplessness

sharp lichen
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dont know if this counts, but I think that the Golden Wasteland is just a small bit of a massive world that exists below the clouds, and is filled with horrible dark creatures that we've never seen before.

livid valley
hushed steeple
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The archives is full of the DNA of extinct creatures and people, some of which have cosmetics based on them stickerShiny Vault experimented with re-assembling the DNA, but the best they can do is memory holograms.........for now.

sharp lichen
livid valley
hushed steeple
lofty rover
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there has to be a cracken somewhere

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Also if a krill can be that big if dark, imagine a dark... insert any animal that may be scary

hushed steeple
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goes to look up various list of strange and obscure sea and deep sea creatures

icy spruce
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Hello I made an iceburg for lore chat

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Oh, I forgot the Sky language font and deciphering. That would be on orange cape tier ig

hushed steeple
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The hell is crab bat

icy spruce
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Basically, remember when the devs said that uhhh smthng with the walking cycles of crab and then someone pointed out it looks like some bat walking

hushed steeple
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Oh.

lofty rover
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Why do people know how bats walk

icy spruce
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It’s for lore Resh, you wouldn’t understand

hushed steeple
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I said like robots. Our only hint on crabs is Enchantment and something THaTS A SuBjeCTIVe IDea ABOut tHEIR WALK CYCLE

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Also im a four generations denier pBuffMoth

icy spruce
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lol, most of these are theories and not canon

Forgot to add that, sorry

lofty rover
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They walk like ducks lmao

sharp lichen
hushed steeple
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Coral Prince is in black cape

icy spruce
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Oh, it’s actually an iceburg about lore chat but not the lore of Sky (tho I add some famous theories cause it kinda affected the peeps in lore chat someway ig)

hushed steeple
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O! Thats sweet pWow

pseudo heart
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Corpse plant theory I will never shut up about it

hushed steeple
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I swear in one of the dev update videos they mentioned an art book. If they actually make enough and the info gets out, more lore people might hop in. prolly not but

sharp lichen
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who is abdjoii

pseudo heart
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Asijeennenwmms omg them

icy spruce
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What a chad

pseudo heart
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And messaged "henlo" or smth after odjjejsna

sharp lichen
lofty void
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hey yall what’s happening

hushed steeple
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OH RIGHT

lofty void
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And the Valley Elders used to be WHAT?

icy spruce
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It’s a theory

hushed steeple
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I thought the words where a little close together so I read it as “valley elders used to be one of the shiny bois” SkyLOL

lofty void
icy spruce
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Sorry ‘bout the bad spacing lmao

hushed steeple
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“Oh no, TSAAAAADI! THIS ONE BECAME SENTIENT AND SPLIT INTO TWO! What do I Do?!”

icy spruce
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HAHAHAHAHAH, POOR TSADI

sharp lichen
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Tsadi used his spear as a knife and cut Samekh into 2 pEyes

icy spruce
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Prolly pEyes

lofty void
icy spruce
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Thanks Tsadi!

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Anyways, lore

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(Pls dont get krilled chat, I swear to King-)

pastel brookBOT
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🛏️ SkyPoint

sharp lichen
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give me your Prophecy lore headcanons

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now

hushed steeple
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Does Stargazer and Rejector being the two little waving figures in the first mural count? Thats like, not even a theory...

icy spruce
limber ridge
hushed steeple
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Oh I think I remember that? Its what brought my attention to the elemental matches of each elder

icy spruce
limber ridge
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What rock in sanctuary?

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Fr I haven’t been to the islands of forever

icy spruce
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Basically a rock in sanc according to the devs kinda crashed sanc (aka, can’t burn plants, server split everytime, etc.)

limber ridge
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Oh

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Dumb inter-dimensional rock.

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If I hear one more thing about a bunch of British men screaming in Minecraft for views I’m going to lose it.

icy spruce
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I-

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I’m not sure if this is the wrong server but cool

limber ridge
icy spruce
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Uhh okay, anyways-

limber ridge
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Uh

livid valley
limber ridge
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Do you think krills are what gave the light creatures the upper hand in the second war?

nocturne mulch
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i was just going through eden and i paid attention to the placement of the statues and oh god it makes me so sad how you can tell that some sky kids went together in a group and died together...how they're all desperately reaching towards the diamond but never getting there....it's so morbid how sky kids are sent to die over and over again. the ending of this game gets me every time

nocturne mulch
limber ridge
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Hehe it’s in the concept timeline that there were two wars

lofty void
nocturne mulch
limber ridge
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F r o g c h a i r

nocturne mulch
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froggy mitsuba

nocturne mulch
limber ridge
lofty void
nocturne mulch
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the megabird is beautiful i love her

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k i read the whole thing. i have so many questions lmao

icy spruce
nocturne mulch
icy spruce
hushed steeple
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That is also an old timeline, so a lot of stuff isnt true to the main game now. Like, personally I don’t think Ancestors and light creatures had a war, and the Elders are now Elders from the time of their creation, not picked and upgraded by Prince.

icy spruce
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ye, it’s actually canon that Elders are born as Elders. I personally think that Prince just gave them the elements cause more power ig

hushed steeple
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I still think Prince/King used forbidden darkstone though. Since “find the source of ancient power” is part of forest description

icy spruce
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maybe

hushed steeple
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“This new material takes a lot of sacrificing light.........but it opens doors so stylishly, lets mass produce them.”

icy spruce
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HHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAH

cosmic willow
hushed steeple
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Also I don’t think Dark creatures are corrupted Light creatures. Most of the corruption aspect of darkness seems to be cut. Other than it crusting over dormant spirits.

cosmic willow
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we die for fancy cloaks and spirits caused mass pollution and eventually ended civilisation for a cool door animation

icy spruce
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It’s Sky, you gotta die

hushed steeple
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At least its not snow or proximity mines this time

limber ridge
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Man the canon sky lore is so boring

hushed steeple
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We have Prophecy and thats kinda it.

icy spruce
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Ye, everything is so eh I can even see air than the canon lore of Sky

/j /lh

wind bone
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When someone is confused it’s not really a good idea to overload them with more information with the docs since they’re already overwhelmed, ask them what they’re confused about and go from there

limber ridge
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Big brain

hushed steeple
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Everything else is picked and chosen what is liked from old concept art and archived beta game scraps

limber ridge
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I heard from one 7 days of sky they would add in some of the wasteland concept art into the game

icy spruce
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Oh, yeah I forgot about that Seraph. Sorry Kara if I confused you more SkyBow

limber ridge
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I also saw on a tweet people trying to recreate what it looks like when a sky kid is born

hushed steeple
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I like prophecy a lot though. And the idea of 4 (and a half) elders getting elements. And Prince doing trials.

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Recreate?

limber ridge
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Imo the prince giving the elders dark stones is like your loaded friend in a video game giving you some of the best armor in the gamer for free

limber ridge
hushed steeple
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You can still see Prince gave them SOMETHING that helped them out. They all holdin their element here. Except for Vault n Isle. This might have been the eventual evolution of the idea of him beefing them up, but this time they where already elders.

limber ridge
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Dang prince picking favorites

hushed steeple
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Whats a little interesting, no idea if its related or not. Isle n Vault are also the two, with cracked masks.

limber ridge
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E-

hushed steeple
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However if you look too close at Lam-uh, Vault’s stick figure here theres still cracks visible. Neat detail.

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not very visible in picture I provided

limber ridge
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I’ve ran out of things to talk about

frozen pivot
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eden rocks are edible

autumn lodge
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I think the reason the elders that didn’t get elements have cracked masks is either they fell before the prince came into play, or the lack of elements caused them to fall sooner or take more damage than the other elders. Could also be that they disagreed with prince and fought with him, leading to them being vanquished/injured before the fall, thus the cracked masks

rapid juniper
frozen pivot
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in the murals that shows the elders, were they even already exiled at the time or were they just included and depicted even if they werent there physically, but omnipresent which fits well with how they're portrayed, being some deity over the ancestors

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i just think that as a possibility, even an ancestor posing as one of the elders, the one which has the closest connection with an elder

hushed steeple
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I like to think they where at one point there physically. Its hard to play sports if your not actually there. As for where they are now and why they moved, uhhh. They are in limbo, but can move to orbit at will, but don’t until everyone of their realm is happy? And they moved because uhhh. All the spirits got crusted so they had no one to toss and “fell asleep”.

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Since like. New intro says to wake them.

frozen pivot
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elders canonically yeets ancestors to orbit like satellites

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they dont look asleep in their cinematics tho, so i think its not literally wake them? maybe wake their faith or smth. arms hurt so they cant pitch them ancestors and megan was disappointed

primal sierra
frozen pivot
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yep, waiting for that elders playing baseball art

hushed steeple
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Yeah. Maybe waking up their flame, or something, make them glowy again.

frozen pivot
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kinda dum that we only see that godray ascend, but not see them actually go up that godray

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but seeing them at orbit after completing their cons seems to imply that they dont have an astral body like the skids we give heating packs at eden

hushed steeple
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We can watch them swim all silly like through orbit. But like, if they where just swimming to the nest the entire time you where saving the kingdom they kinda swim slow.

frozen pivot
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wat they swim in orbit too?

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i dont touch my cons so i had no idea

hushed steeple
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The part where you fly up to the nest and you can fly close to them for wax

icy spruce
hushed steeple
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The spirits you saving going up to nest. And sometimes the seasonal show up too. I think last time I went Postman rabbit had a really purple cape.

frozen pivot
hushed steeple
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Its prolly assembly kids now

icy spruce
frozen pivot
frigid slate
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Can someone sum up the lore of the land for me

pseudo heart
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Uh kaboom

hushed steeple
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They prolly do

icy spruce
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Basically, Prince, Diamonds, Pollution, War, Vegans vs Non-Vegans, krills, Kaboom

frozen pivot
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even the ts i have

cosmic willow
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two shields is now about dietary choices/lh

pseudo heart
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Don't forget flesh eating plants

icy spruce
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Mmm, I love some flesh eating salad

Anyways, buy your flesh-eating salad in your local MFC (megabi fried chicken)

hushed steeple
# frigid slate Can someone sum up the lore of the land for me

Theres a secret elder of Eden who may have been the first skykid. He is the victor of the trials, and he used a forbidden darkstone that takes up light to push cool door openers technology forward. That caused darkness to flourish and eventually Eden exploded and the King Eden elder went missing and skykids got sent, they mysteriously have his constellation and look like he did at first kinda.

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Go save the sad kingdom and its sad adults!

icy spruce
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And then there’s Megabirb who watched too much anime

frigid slate
icy spruce
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nope, besides they were all born as elders/skids and skids will never be elders that’s basically it in the canon lore

cosmic willow
hushed steeple
frigid slate
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And why can we find people's spirits randomly, are they actually alive or just faded memories?

icy spruce
icy spruce
cosmic willow
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megabirb really did say children are the future

hushed steeple
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We don’t know if they ever had bodies or are are strait up dead people. They went dormant. The are the past inhabitants of the land, and when you revive their memories you are freeing them from being trapped on land, and letting them move on to orbit.

icy spruce
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Ye

frigid slate
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Man this game is a lot more sadz than I realized

pseudo heart
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Uh yeah

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It's quite deep

hushed steeple
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Granted the new intro includes “as spirits we soon became many and lived in harmony here in the clouds” so like. Its possible they never even had bodies to begin with and they are just kinda continuing their lives from when they went dormant

pseudo heart
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The more you dig into lore, the more you realize how much it reflects to the real world, actually

frigid slate
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Where did you even find all that lore I've been trying to make sense of it myself but I didn't reach any conclusions

icy spruce
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Here’s an iceburg

pseudo heart
hushed steeple
cosmic willow
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we’ve also got concept art

icy spruce
frigid slate
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Nice.

pseudo heart
hushed steeple
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There a ton of concept art pinned in this chat. My favorite is “a collection of promotional material” has a lot of really cool stuff.

spark vigil
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wait what

frigid slate
icy spruce
cosmic willow
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if you have any questions or theories to share,feel free to come along herepSkyLove stickerHug

hushed steeple
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Bat crabs is that apparently crabs walk cycle animation is a clue to their origin, blue eden??? Uhhh? Blue pizza is an easter egg in the secret office area

icy spruce
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Also, the first iceburg is actually Lore chat’s iceburg but since there’s some theories so uh

cosmic willow
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most of the materials are concepts so canonisity is not really a concern

harsh pecan
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Hello

frigid slate
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Alright, one last question and I'll try to stop bothering yall. How does the prophecy tie into things

spark vigil
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what happens when youdie in eden anyways? is it some kinda janky timeloop?

hushed steeple
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Prophecy mural tells a lot.

icy spruce
frigid slate
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I'd guess so, but I can't make sense of it

hushed steeple
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The general idea is that its about the Prince of the sky kingdom leaving for the trials, winning the trials, giving the elements to the Elders, and getting crowned King

frozen pivot
hushed steeple
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Also which elder gets which element, how they used it, ect

frigid slate
hushed steeple
icy spruce
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Actually, 6 elders and ya Isle and Bault doesn’t have any elements dunno why

hushed steeple
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Prolly as they kinda have....unique realms

frigid slate
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So, now there's one element that hasn't been given out tho

hushed steeple
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there is?

spark vigil
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what happens when youdie in eden anyways? is it some kinda timeloop?

frozen pivot
hushed steeple
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Sky kids have the gift (?) of rebirthing. They can reincarnate as themselves when they die.

frozen pivot
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so ye its a loop

hushed steeple
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Its an OPTIONAL loop.

spark vigil
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what happens if a skykid just decides to walk away?

hushed steeple
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Wasteland gets Fire, Valley gets air, Prairie gets Earth, and Forest gets Water

harsh pecan
cosmic willow
hushed steeple
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They live their life normal but prolly dont age and die

cosmic willow
harsh pecan
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Lol yea

frigid slate
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Yeah nvm I'm silly

pseudo heart
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Ah btw !!! Speaking of Prophecy, I think the reason why the Vault and Isle elders weren't given an elemental light wasn't because they were defected or, exiled of sorts (they probably won't be exiled at the beginning of their own civilization what the heck). It was perhaps because they already had been assigned the roles like how Isle's was to shepherd souls/stars and Vault was supposed to keep knowledge which doesn't necessarily need the aid of the elemental lights SkyThink

cosmic willow
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vault is pretty much an enclosed structure so yeah
no avatar neededSkyLOL

hushed steeple
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Yeah. “Unique” realms. They don’t exactly have a realm full of people to benefit with nature

frozen pivot
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so isle and vault the true elders and the rest are spoiled kids

cosmic willow
frozen pivot
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they all are

hushed steeple
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You can see in the mural Forest uses it for rain, Prairie grows harvest, Wasteland powers turrets, and Valley has windgates and floating stuff

frigid slate
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We actually do see an example of a fire powered catapult

pseudo heart
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Alright, that's enough braincell using for today stands up and leaves I gotta CR

frozen pivot
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so the enchantment orbs arent exactly linked to prophecy elements, which makes enchantment fraud

pseudo heart
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DID SOMEONE SAY ENCHANTMENT

hushed steeple
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Don’t we actually see stick figures of them making the orbs on the side of the ark?

frigid slate
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Enchantment- ?

pseudo heart
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Just gonna,,, send this again

I don't think Prophecy had any hand in the production or rather, the colored orbs were just based off the elemental lights. The time frame between Prophecy and Enchantment must be waaaay big since Prophecy happened at the dawn of the Sky Kingdom whilst Enchantment was during the fall. The people of Enchantment must've found out about it, in desperation to save the crumbling kingdom to restore the lands with the help of Lightseekers and tried to create the same thing though understandably, weaker than its natural elemental counterpart. The red and purple lights were most likely artificial offshoots created by them, I personally think the red light might have signified memories since it was the one that made the ark murals appear while purple light might be power or magic that created the ark shops

frozen pivot
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if anything, the enchantment orbs shows wat the realm had, or its defining character of smth

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enchantment orbs are the realm's element basically

hushed steeple
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I think the placement of the orbs in the realms is kinda...irrelevant? I think the meaning was that the orbs spilled and got lost in the realms. They took to places they liked but not necessarily because of the realm.

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Theres prolly lots of places with- uh, whatsit? Aaaaa a gift from the earth to the sky or some flowery jazz

frozen pivot
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i guess, tho their colors. if that was the case, couldnt they just be the same as lightseeker orbs

hushed steeple
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I think they might be ALTERED lightseekers orbs.

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Like how they are gathered and created somehow on ark mural by scholars

true grove
frozen pivot
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wat were the lightseeker orbs used for tho, too lazy to watch cinematics of old seasons sqwarlockDed

true grove
hushed steeple
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Prolly to aid the falling realms due to light shortages?

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It never got to its destination so they used them to make ark livable instead

frozen pivot
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all i know is that lightseekers and enchantment seems to be on the same page in some way, with the ark replica with lightseekers and the orbs being placed on it??? idk

hushed steeple
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Need someone to seek the lights so we can make them nature lights and ship them off. Oops got hit by lightning

true grove
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Enchantment is just Lightseekers with the belonging cape bug with lights

frozen pivot
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lol

true grove
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Enchantment lights are much bigger than the Lightseekers lights right? pThink

frozen pivot
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they did try to make forgotten ark livable tho, but they died before they got to use them?

true grove
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Ooo stickerOK

hushed steeple
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The light escaped before they got to use them for sure.

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shudders at remembering the long tedious trips to ark and back for the next light

frozen pivot
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so the orbs do have somewhere they originated from then pPopcorn

hushed steeple
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Maybe they where created at vault? Theres scholars on the mural I think? You can tell because they have a stick on their head.

true grove
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From the mural it seemed like they collected or bought them from different realms

frozen pivot
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thats possible, but enchantment spirits were scholars themselves

pseudo heart
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I don't think the vault scholars had any hand in the production of the Enchantment colored orbs.. Enchantment offers pretty tall hats and the vault scholars were never depicted with headpieces lmao. They might be, kitsuu

true grove
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The lights didn't lign up with the change they did like purple light was in vault but it didn't add the pots and diamonds

frozen pivot
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kinda like lightseekers, they also seeked the orbs

hushed steeple
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Well I think the Enchantment gang are merchants, who where meant to sell or deliver the cargo that was going to help the realms, just a bit. But then. Ah. That didn’t work out so well.

cosmic willow
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season of lightseekers 2:orbseekers pFIRE

frozen pivot
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that somehow sounds cooler, them being merchants

hushed steeple
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I thought all the scholars in Granny Vaults mural have sticks on their heads to be their headpeices.

cosmic willow
true grove
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How did the enchantment gang get to the ark tho pPopcorn i don't think they just crashed there and called it their home

hushed steeple
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Does it makes sense for for merchants to turn their crashed ship into a crashed shop? I think maybe.

cosmic willow
hushed steeple
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I think they crashed there and called it home.

frozen pivot
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my headcanon is theres currently 3 different types of scholars, being lightseekers, enchantment and vault; vault being the librarians etc

cosmic willow
hushed steeple
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Do it after a bunch of little kids appear and want to buy tall potions stickerShiny

frozen pivot
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u dream too small, get the huge ones

true grove
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The shipwreck had 3 small boats on it so i believe if they were on the huge boat they must've had the small escape boat.

frozen pivot
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become ancestor

hushed steeple
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Theres. Uh. Wrecked boats in the area around ark too.

frozen pivot
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now that i think about it, wat do they do with the candles they get from the spells they sell

hushed steeple
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I think all their escape boats are broke

frozen pivot
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can i datamine them and steal the shop's candles?

hushed steeple
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Plus like. They are foraging for mushrooms.

cosmic willow
frozen pivot
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welp the cosmetics, its gifts, maybe they need the candle's lights to forge u their gift or smth

cosmic willow
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the existence of a prospector probably proves bartering at some point but SkyShrug

hushed steeple
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And trying to make the water good. Ark was always a story of trying to make the best of your situation and ending up turning it into a good thing.

frozen pivot
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banana boat

cosmic willow
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a lot of enchant emotes involve two people or are at least a reaction
(scare,nod,shrug,play fight etc)

frozen pivot
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enchantment are more fun than the rhythm troupe, i mean look at the crab dancer

cosmic willow
frozen pivot
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making the best of their situation indeed

pseudo heart
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What I've always found odd in the Ark was that they have knowledge of the ascended candles

cosmic willow
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i mean game mechs

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but yeah the enchant spirits have pretty much been isolated from civilisation till their deaths

frozen pivot
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they prolly just used the pot to cook mushrooms the botanist harvested

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and iirc, he was scaring birds?

cosmic willow
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they wouldn’t know in the least about skids final objective

cosmic willow
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we do see birbs when the Ark is fully restored

lofty rover
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We're cooking mushrooms today? Fun

lyric isle
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Do you think they actually achieved the Ark restoration we see in the quests, or they are out of ‘doing what they never got to but wanted to’?

trim belfry
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Hi... What's the chat about today? stickerPeace

lyric isle
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Enchantment it looks

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I’m for both theories

night cliff
icy spruce
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ye, wait does that mean-

If we’re fulfilling Skater’s girl wish in Season of Dreams, that means she died before her debut

lyric isle
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Yeah, that’s sort of what prompted the idea, the theme of ‘fulfilling wishes’ - I can’t tell if we’re doing it post-mortem or reliving the moment

nimble ingot
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I am not sure, skykids are reliving them. So we are just along for the ride.
I stand corrected, then

lyric isle
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this could be an interesting debate, genuinely
curious to see viewpoints on this

icy spruce
lyric isle
cosmic willow
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considering that we get a fairly clear visual of skater girl’s final performance,i think we’re reliving it
it’s her mother who’s the quest guide so maybe she wants to see her daughter succeed and bring us skids an inspiration

icy spruce
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Prolly

lyric isle
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maybe it’s a mix

night cliff
# icy spruce ye, wait does that mean- If we’re fulfilling Skater’s girl wish in Season of D...

I mean, yeah, think about it. I think that skater girl died just before she got to live her dream, because we can relive their memories up to that point, but when it actually comes to the debut part? You don't relive a memory, you sit down and meditate on front of a statue of Mekh (which, from my own headcannons, theories, abd the general placement of everything in the Valley, is like a patron Saint of Ice skating or something), and are then transported to the Astral/spirit world version of the colosium. It sounds like Mekh giving out a hand to let our little skater child have her performancr they always wanted to have

icy spruce
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Iris, can you be my bestfriend or uh friend

nimble ingot
lyric isle
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That’s a really good point - and it hurts

cosmic willow
icy spruce
cosmic willow
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the ults of dreams are the skater girls performance wear
qg must have had lots of hope for her daughter pCry

cosmic willow
night cliff
cosmic willow
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Eden flat out went out of view in the village and in hermit valley so uh game mechs ig

lyric isle
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Prophecy is definitely post-mortem - we’re doing what the students are heavily implied to have but instead we succeed

icy spruce
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yes

lyric isle
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and implied Alef succeeded but that’d go onto a whole other topic

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Sanctuary isn’t exactly a canon, it’s a beach episode of spirits just having a nice time, showcasing a natural resort and possible manta conservatory

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Enchantment, Dreams and Assembly are the ones the debate goes into

icy spruce
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ye

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Sanc is like that filler beach episode

night cliff
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Sanctuary is trying to draw the Mantas back, like how the Sanctuary Guide probably always wanted but never succeeded to

lyric isle
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it’s a literal beach episode
but also has lore implications

cosmic willow
night cliff
lyric isle
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I’ve held the theory it’s a conservatory for manta so that they don’t get

crushed

night cliff
icy spruce
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and it will be served in MFC as a Manta shake pManta

night cliff
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Oooohhhh, so that's what the manta juicer is-

nimble ingot
night cliff
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Now I wanna look up Phoenix symbolism-

icy spruce
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This mythical bird is a symbol of hope, renewal, rebirth, immortality, resurrection, solitude, and grace

Hmmm, sounds familiar pSquint

nimble ingot
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Off the top of my head, the phoenix is a legendary bird of fire, that can be reborn and represent eternal life as a cycle.

icy spruce
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Sounds like me g a bir b

lyric isle
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WAIT IT DOES

night cliff
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You also have the Fenghuang, a bird that is, wrongly translated but still very much associated as being the "Chinese Phoenix". It is said to be an immortal bird, who's rare appearance is said to be an omen foretelling harmony at the ascent to the throne of a new emperor.

Acording to Google -

night cliff
icy spruce
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Lmao

frozen pivot
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huzzah, get converted

night cliff
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Wait, does that mean that everybody that has dream ults is megabird loyal by default-

icy spruce
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King Propaganda is watching them

night cliff
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I guess I'm part of the Spanish inquisition then, wooooo

night cliff
nimble ingot
lofty rover
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What's poppin.

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Nvm I am late again

nimble ingot
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No no, you can join in.

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You have anything you wanted to share?

lofty rover
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What's the topic tho

cosmic willow
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season of dreams and it’s symbolism,quests and ultimate cosmetics

frozen pivot
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season dreams is like prophecy but more on side story, its about a character in sky and their journey, ultimate cosmetic on the other hand which apparently is based off a phoenix, a fiery bird, can alternatively symbolize the skater that wore it as the most elegant dancer there is, someone that fairs with the dance of a flaming bird

lofty rover
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O the girl who wanted to skate?

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But she couldn't when alive so we completed her "dreams"

night cliff
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Yeah pCry
Maybe now they're skating up in orbit, with all their family, friends and the rhythm Troupe

lofty rover
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I had the inkling that in sky she never skated. She never built up the courage to do it.
Hence her dream was that everyone encouraged her to do it and she could. She was supported in this dream of hers.

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She just would just skate in the rink whenever she could. But that was all

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And all the other spirits wanted to support her but couldn't or didn't and regretted it maybe

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And they all relieve their younger days when they would jump down the slopes and skate down the valleys.

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Their dreams and how not only did they give up their dreams but also didn't support this girl

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They forgot their childhood aspirations and dreams and exchanged them for adult things or practicality

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Hence through the girl they too live their dreams once again

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But I wasn't actually here during that season so I may be off the mark so

cosmic willow
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as cool and sad this theory is,maybe not

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since the first 4 tasks were memories that could’ve been relived

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but i was very moth back then so eh SkyShrug

shut trellis
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i wasnt too mothy during that season, its a cool theory but tbh i doubt its what tgc was aiming
but when i think about it, its sorta possible?
but at the same time not... i dont really know

frozen pivot
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its also possible that the girl we relive is the qg and its the qg's memory as a child were reliving, i dont remember the girl ever interacting with the qg too, maybe they did maybe they didnt

cosmic willow
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i used to think that because i found the qg being mom implausible as smoffSkyLOL

frozen pivot
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this is also supported by the fact that memory fragments of the qg exists as the quest simultaneously in different places, unlike ur typical spirit memory that will only activate once lit

lofty rover
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I distinctly remember failing the second task so the girl kept skating in the ice rink till days in my game

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It was as if the girl's progress depended on my progress else her dream wasn't fulfilled and that gave me the whole "I am helping her live the dream by actually doing just that"

frozen pivot
lofty rover
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QGs stay even when the season ends alone. Which makes me believe they can't ascend.

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And we are their way of making this fact a little less sad

frozen pivot
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they can, they just choose not to, or its that theyve ascended but descended to help their season companions ascend in place of the elders

lofty rover
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Interesting

frozen pivot
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now it makes sense that the qgs are referred to as Spirit Elders

nimble ingot
frozen pivot
nimble ingot
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Also, letting players that completed the season to relive them :'(

lofty rover
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So is it just a game mech?

nimble ingot
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I believe so.

lofty rover
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I mean it was only after switch trailer I realised sunny was old season area

frozen pivot
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i believed so too until now, theres lots of reasons that popped up that i can use explain why that was, other than theyre there for the area progression quests

lofty rover
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I mean they have to make it make sense even if it was just for progression.

frozen pivot
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and chucking it up to game mechs when there could be more that fits really well is lame imo

lofty rover
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Unless they just don't want to anymore and want it to be like it's just a fun game with hints of lore

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And enchant had lore?

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Was proph later?

frozen pivot
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enchant - sanct - prophecy

lofty rover
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So if they are lore dropping, then it is less likely it's just mech

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Since they are saying there is lore and giving it atleast a tiny bit (should be more) attention

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Also tbh QGs are the ones sky kids have most attachments to. So they are bound to gather interest in their stories.

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Plus with the last season the idea that only QG gets left behind and rest ascend gets a lot clearer atleast to me

frozen pivot
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the season is their story in some way or another, it always revolves around them or their motive; wat their purpose was. always has been

lofty rover
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True. And if they matter so much then then being the QG and being the one left behind should have a story too

autumn lodge
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Even if qg staying is just a game mech, I think it is interesting that they are able to ascend the other spirits, without the help of an elder, it makes me wonder what makes them different from normal spirits and closer to an elder

frozen pivot
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that includes prophecy, but the prophet was just overshadowed cus, well, prince is more popular than anubis prophet will ever be

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but the motive remained, completing the trials is completing his story of purpose

lofty rover
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Like Kitsuu pointed I do agree the QGs were the more powerful ones but whether they were elders I don't know.

icy spruce
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I remember someone saying that QGs are basically mini elders but not elders, just higher than ur normal ancestors but lower than elders

lofty rover
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I kind of feel the QGs gained that power. Whether by the virtue of their innate ability, emotional attachment or simply in exchange for ability to ascend. It's up to you

frozen pivot
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they arent elders, but they are different than the regular spirits, thats why i pointed out the ascend and descend, and also, theres a sanctuary quest completion that straight up writes as "You have fulfilled this Spirit Elder's wish"

lofty rover
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They are like the leader of the clan

frozen pivot
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so idk where that fits into

lofty rover
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The wisest the most respected and the representative

frozen pivot
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thats unlikely, anyone and everyone can be that someone and somehow, these qgs are the ones that were chosen

lofty rover
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I mean why somehow?'

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I feel it's not random

frozen pivot
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and ive never seen the qgs as tainted, not in anyway like having a dark sphere within them, which also supports my claim that they descended

lofty rover
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But their lack of ascension isn't like same as their mainland peers is what I feel

cosmic willow
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i like to think that they were leaders of sorts

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like enchantment qg being the ship’s captain

frozen pivot
# lofty rover I mean why somehow?'

i just believe that theres probably different groups of 7 spirits that have the same structure as a season's, and possibly in the same place too like for example, sanctuary

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but somehow, that one group and qg were chosen among all of those other ones

frozen pivot
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u can still see the spirits in orbit flying around silly, even if u havent unlocked their wing lock

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atleast i see the dreams yeti flying around everytime i do eden, and hes blue

lofty rover
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Since I only have like 1 season can't really say much here

nimble ingot
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What does make me curious is if the little prince in the upcoming season would stay.

If there is any consolation to the quest giver staying because of game mechanics robhelp new players get hearts and catch up. Perhaps they cannot leave yet.

So far I can recall, the seasons where the quest guver stays does not necesarily show the spirits leaving.
They just stay behind, right?
I have to look them up to be sure...

lofty rover
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They leave at end of every memory in the distance iirc

willow nacelle
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hey lore skids! what are winged lights? are they the "children of light"? Are they related to us? Because when you are in eden, you eventually turn into one of those statues, just like those winged lights.

lofty rover
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You don't have to spoiler eden here

willow nacelle
frozen pivot
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no need to spoiler eden stuff here. winged lights basically become our souls, they arent children of the light but is part of it, a remnant of wat was once whole, the eden statues do seem to be like us but different still even with the new change

nimble ingot
nimble ingot
frozen pivot
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it does turn u into a statue but not the same statue, we have a gold glow even after turning into stone, whilst the rest are blue until u give them ur winged lights

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sorry for the scuffed screeny cus i took it as soon as i turned, but focus on the statue, it has a gold hue, its not because of the particle's bloom, tho u can test this to really see flr urself with others, wait for them to die

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this is also when i almost missed the 3 statues at the end cus i was trying to spam the statues of my dead friends, winged lights

lofty rover
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Also screen pans to your feet and they get shackled with dark matter particles

austere fable
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Hi, I have a question for tgc.
Is this an easter egg of the game To the moon?
It can't be just a coincidence😱

icy spruce
wicked patio
tacit lake
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Are the spirits that come with seasons different from the normal spirits? I mean, they both have memories but seasonal spirits actually travel around and have things going for them, while normal spirits just sit there and be dead.

hushed steeple
flat helm
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I wanna talk about something I am very excited to share

hushed steeple
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Hello ! ^^

Do you think that the Golden Desert has always been a desert or was it before a flourishing land before the ancestors set foot there ?

flat helm
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OK so

In my hc of the story, Resh was present during the story of Sky, and he was part of the reason why the elders became so greedy with power until some of them realized they have gone to far

And Lahmed was kinda like
Here since he was a child
She was kinda his nanny, in a way

So imagine Shen and Soothsayer from KFP2 as the kind of relationship they would have

hushed steeple
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Have krills always existed or have they appeared as a result of the pollution of industrialization ?

flat helm
hushed steeple
frozen pivot
true grove
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Considering the location of wasteland the atmosphere there could've been like in forest

nimble ingot
# frozen pivot

hey, that is not bad. I'll see if my poor moth is willing to do this experiment and I'll document the results. It does look different, you are right. 0.0

flat helm
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cries in get completely ignored with my hc

true grove
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Idk who those names refer to 🗿

flat helm
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Resh refers to the King, Lahmed refers to Vault Elder

frozen pivot
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i just cant wrap my head around tsadi starting an industrial revolution, he seems to be a warrior more than anything, didnt show a single hint of someone thatll be the head of it in the cinematic either, so i think its the king's realm along with eden

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tsadi's purpose was to just guard the gateway to it

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maybe the militarization of some tech, but the actual works, meh

night cliff
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Tsadi committed arson on the Wasteland pFIRE /j

night cliff
flat helm
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Thank you <:0

night cliff
# flat helm Thank you <:0

I don't know who Shen and Soothsayer are, but assuming it's a parent-child bond, that opens up so many possibilities for angst

flat helm
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Soothsayer is Shen's nanny

night cliff
hushed steeple
hushed steeple
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the king used this new technology to make weapons, to do a lot too much, and on top of that, he had the stupidity to place a gigantic crystal in the heart of the holy land, an unlimited source of light! The giant crystal could never have held all this power, all this energy ...

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I think it was Alef who activates the beam in the first place though. Since in one of the murals hes standing at the top of Eden mountain and the beam only appears after he does.

shut trellis
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random but is oreo a canon or fanon name, im guessing fanon but idk

night cliff
sharp lichen
white obsidian
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Oh my gosh I spent five hours working on my Sky lore timeline and I finally did it
At least for now

sharp lichen
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Let us see it

white obsidian
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Eeeeeee okay
It was me tying together a lot of the theories I got from the Google doc, so thank you all for that

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It's formatted really bad so I apologize for that
I wrote it all on my phone ;;

hushed steeple
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My friend just asked why sky kids can breathe underwater
Is there lore around that?

sharp lichen
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do skykids even breath? they have no noses

icy spruce
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prolly not tbh

frozen pivot
icy spruce
hushed steeple
icy spruce
icy spruce
white obsidian
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Thank you ;;
Yeah I don't exactly follow Canon to a t but that's very interesting to know!

hushed steeple
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I never thought of them as the same just cause of the name. And that theres like, only a hole in the clouds below them. Hum!

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Like at one point it was even the shores of mana. What mana? Who knows. Ain’t canon no more.

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C h a t g o t k r i-

icy spruce
hushed steeple
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Chesca I am in the King Server I think I have the right to do it FeelsEvil

blazing turtle
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ive played the game before but havent been online in ages :')) can someone please explain the lore to me? not in detail or anything but ye

icy spruce
blazing turtle
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yeah! go ahead

icy spruce
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Okay basically:

Megabirb is a deity, Elders are created, Ancestors are created (note: Elders are born as Elders and same goes to ancestors and skids), Ancestors fell followed by the elders, Prophecy, the Chosen One aka, Prince arrives and completed the trials and became King, the founding of darkstones, founding of diamonds thanks to Forest, industrial revolution, mass animal killing, war in GW (basically Vegans vs. Non-Vegans), uh oh dark creatures came, Team Vegans and Non-Vegans try to defeat them, failed, diamond explosion, Eden, Everyone died, hooray

frozen pivot
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7 yeeted fallen stars, they create civilization, they discover tech, tech is corrupt so pollution, king got too ambitious, created some boom boom, it explodes, dead, we wake up, we get yeeted, we save the rest, we die, we live

icy spruce
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Lmao

frozen pivot
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the whole lore summed up pretty much

blazing turtle
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ouuu cool cool

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tysm for explaining!!

sharp lichen
hushed steeple
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I think the new intro means the elders fell before the ancestors. But sky lore is made of jelly so it could easily be something else.

frozen pivot
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its crabs, theyre the original inhabitants

hushed steeple
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H h hh h hh h h yea thats the basic lore

spark vigil
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It's crabs all the way down

solemn gazelle
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I saw this weird post one time that said "If were all children, would that make chibi toddlers" and I was wondering-

icy spruce
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I mean, they’re not wrong-

spark vigil
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I too would like to be able to put on a mask and revert to my 5 year old self

icy spruce
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Odhfdkdndknx

solemn gazelle
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But then would that also make tall sky kids teens ????

spark vigil
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Do skykids even have a concept of age

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I assume they just wake up fully grown because they aren't biological beings

placid oyster
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Not really age but in a way
Moth -> sky kid -> guilder -> veteran

spark vigil
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what is a guilder?

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Do they just evolve like Pokemon?

placid oyster
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A Guide

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Sorry autocorrect

spark vigil
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lol

icy spruce
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Anyways, what’s the topic

solemn gazelle
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That was the topic 😌

icy spruce
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Oh mk

river vapor
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fishtail fishbody fishahead hello what is this critture called

celest violet
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Wait why is slowmode on in lore?

formal bluff
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is there a lore reason why you have 7 wedges in ||eden|| or am I dumb-

celest violet
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Usually slowmode is off in lore discussion

pseudo heart
pseudo heart
river vapor
celest violet
pseudo heart
celest violet
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Set them on fire as we cause arson in game

pseudo heart
bitter shale
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mantas

ghost mantas

river vapor
pseudo heart
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These guys pCosmicManta ? Or..

bitter shale
#

what portal?

frozen hill
frozen pivot
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the skeletons in vault suggests that there is a variant of mantas that possesses physical bodies which id like to refer to as neutral, these skeletons within vault will take manifestation with vault's influence to wat we know as cosmic mantas which coincidentally appears only when there are skeletons present nearby

spark vigil
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idk the mantas are pretty small compared to some of the skeles

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If there's a connection between them, it'd make more sense for the mantas to be the souls of the dead animals taken form? via light magic or smth

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That or the animals are an extinct species that used to live in the vault

silent whale
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I have a theory that before the valley twins they may have had an older sibling that use to rule over the valley of triumph. I think this as when you go to the oob temple in the valley you find starfield memorial which is a constellation consiting of 3 main stars and if you look and the valley twins they both look like they have an arm missing which could mean there was an incident which involed the previous valley elder and the twins. This could also explain if the previous elder was a revitive or sibling why the valley is the only realm with 2 rulers and why starfield Memorial is around. It could be a memorial for a previous valley elder. Its just a theory i put together so it might not make 100% sense.

raw moth
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Wait is there in-game stuff supporting the explosion or is it just a fanon thing

ember temple
dusty iris
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Hi, what's the topic?

icy spruce
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Chat dying

dusty iris
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Aww :/

icy spruce
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Ye :(

dusty iris
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I've never been to this channel and don't even know the lores of sky

icy spruce
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O, lore moff

restive cosmos
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Hello

dusty iris
restive cosmos
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So you are a lore moff

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Right?

dusty iris
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Idek what that means 😭

icy spruce
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Basically a person new to lore :D

restive cosmos
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Yea

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I am the leader of three megabird crusades

hushed steeple
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Ello um

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I have a theory on mushrooms i like can i show lmao

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Like light mushrooms in forest

nimble ingot
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Of course, go ahead. :)

silent whale
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Hello

nimble ingot
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Hello, .@silent whale

hushed steeple
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CRAP

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NEEDS EDITING

cosmic willow
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take your timepSkyLove

hushed steeple
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SEE YOU ANOTHER DAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMPANY

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👽‼️

icy spruce
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Hi

nimble ingot
hushed steeple
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BACK

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HAD TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES

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Light-Dark Hybrid Mushroom Theory:
What if the light mushrooms in forest actually both performed photosynthesis and fed off of other creatures/plants' light to survive instead of choosing one or the other? Darkness tends to feed off of light corpses/excess light and trees grow up into/above the clouds to gain light, but mushrooms may be a mixture of both. Like a light mushroom would be able to flourish in a healthy realm by making energy/food with sunlight, (or whatever makes the sky world so bright 🤠💧) but could also survive in a corrupted environment by sharing light with other creatures that come by. Which is why both you and the light mushroom light up once you get near it. Light mushrooms will also take decayed plants and grow off of it like actual fungi, such as trees, (dead or alive) fertilized, wet earth, humid, OLD walls made of stone, maybe even clay? Overall, mushrooms are an interesting combination of light and dark biological traits made to sustain the ever-changing climate of the Hidden Forest.

icy spruce
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Y e s, agree

hushed steeple
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:D

cosmic willow
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i really like it

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irl mushrooms in forests have a root and mycelia network to help trees transport nutrients and for communication toopWow
mushrooms really are important

hushed steeple
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PH SO WE GOT A FOREST ECOSYSTEM GOING ON HERE OR WHAT🤨‼️

icy spruce
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HAHAHA, YES

hushed steeple
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But yeah its super interesting how light mushrooms can adapt to multiple environments, usually for a light creature any encounter with darkness can kill, and vise versa for any dark creature, but mushrooms are powerful

icy spruce
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Tl.dr. Mushrooms are actually the deity of Sky.

hushed steeple
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Who needs a celestial goddess when you have mushroom

cosmic willow
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granny kale was right all along

icy spruce
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omg, and we didn’t see it. I can see why she was a prophet

primal sierra
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Any1 know why the Samekh twins have broken masks?

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I personally like to think that their masks broke while fighting some huge darkness thing

icy spruce
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Personally, I would think that they used to be one elder (like dude, they both have 1 missing arm, leg, horn thing) but it was debunked by canon doc but like, still good tho

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Or it’s just a balance thing yknow

primal sierra
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Ah the one elder thing~

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I love the idea that the twins aren't the original valley elder-- But rather the original elder's children

icy spruce
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O, that’s interesting pEyes

primal sierra
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It also explains why Sky has so much replayability, bc the original Star has a Do Not Disturb sign up and made her kids as her PR team-- /j

icy spruce
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HAHAHAHA—

night cliff
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Ooooo, Samekh time? May I also throw in my two cents? pEyes pWow

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Basically, I have a slightly darker interpretation of the "single being split into two" theory. Samekh were once one, yes, but as conjoined twins born as such, not 1 entity. Twins specifically conjoined at the hip, shoulder and a part of their skulls. Thry either A) Got separated later on in life via surgery, or B) In their first act of cool Elder Magick™, tore themselves away from the other, which left them free yes, but with only 1 arm each and 0 depth perception

icy spruce
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O, this is why I like you as a friend Iris. I love ur angsty theories

night cliff
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Thanks pAww pAww pWow Your headcannons are lovely too, ChescacEllieSkyLove stickerLove

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So um, anyway, dumps the entire Evelyn Evelyn album onto the twins

All I'm saying is that they'd definitely kin those two

hushed steeple
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This

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So smart and i like angsty theories 👁️👁️ amazing

icy spruce
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EVELYN EVELYN SAMEKH SAMEKH-

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WHY DID YOU BOTHER TO STAYYYY, WHY ARE YOU RUNING AWAY- okay, back to lore

hushed steeple
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singing is 10/10 bro

icy spruce
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thank you bro

hushed steeple
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Also speaking of the twins, i think that if they were to be separated at some point and had to rule a realm together, the twins would end up struggling quite a lot untill after the prophecy. Where all the prophets split up to work with their respective elders. Basically what the air prophet did was help keep the twins' relationship in balance, and it helped a lot untill yk.. air prophet died

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And now they are out of balance again

night cliff
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WOOOOO- Also, SahSkyElderValley1 would be the Sad!Evelyn, and MekSkyElderValley2 would be the Angry!Evelyn-

icy spruce
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y e s

hushed steeple
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casually sweats because ive barley even heard about the album before

night cliff
hushed steeple
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Y e s

icy spruce
hushed steeple
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Its like that song from steven universe, "here comes a thought"

night cliff
#

UES

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THE SAMEKH VIBES, THE ANGST, ARE MMMMMMMM

hushed steeple
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YESSSS 🤩🤩

icy spruce
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I have found my people, Marie pls be my friend

hushed steeple
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WAIT WHAT? HOLY CRAP FR?!?! I--- BRO 😭 I LOBE UR CGK

icy spruce
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WHAT, I-

hushed steeple
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YES I AM FAN

night cliff
#

THE SAMEKH TRIO, THE FRIDGEFORCE

icy spruce
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HOLY CRABS, NEVER KNEW THAT EDEN STONES SHOW WILL LIKE- OFBEKDHEJ

hushed steeple
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YES I LOVE IT 🤩 AND UR FUNNY LIKE BRO THIS IS CRAZY 😭

icy spruce
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AAAAAAAA, TMANKS

night cliff
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Chat Got Krilled>>>>>any TV game show, like, seriously

hushed steeple
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FFRR ‼️

icy spruce
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HAHAAHAHHA

night cliff
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Hmmmmm,,,, can we share headcannons that aren't necessarily cemented in any actual lore-??
Like, Elder headcannons-

hushed steeple
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yes

icy spruce
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sure, yknow I headcanon Prince to have the golden child syndrome. Aka, he was heavily praised at first but later not rlly and since he wants the approval of others he got a bit too ahead of himself and yknow

plus, the murals of Prince is literally a golden child lmao

night cliff
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Symbolism

hushed steeple
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OOOOOOO~ I LIKE IT! I think that he was also very close to the prophecy guide since they did the trials together, but after being crowned as the king to rule, it was almost as if he was leaving his childhood

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I like to think he was also self conscious about being a permanent child. Eventually being the big deal king while still looking like the tiny baby of all the other elders.

icy spruce
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Ye, Prince was like speedrunning childhood innocence

hushed steeple
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It makes me sad because it seems like skids were supposed to be used as something instead of being sent home to orbit

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Like even now as a new generation, all we are supposed to do is send the stars back home, but yet since we are partially the king (my opinion) we cannot be saved

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Im not fond of the “they are just made to die repeatedly” idea. Bah.

icy spruce
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ye, skids purpose imo is to save the ancestors and restore the world but yknow they failed because they can’t get to the diamond so it’s just a loop

night cliff
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00mf -
ANGST

hushed steeple
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Things HAVE changed with skykids. Like spirits ain’t stuck crusted anymore, and several locations get prettied.

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Yeah, but the real question is can they go back home too? (To stay)

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I think the original idea is that sending the kid back to home was a REWARD for doing good. So lore wise if you like “nah man can I move to heaven now?” Megabird might just go “sure.”

icy spruce
hushed steeple
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I like to think theres actually a orbit system of living too. So its not just sitting in a pretty Stary room forever.

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Yeah, lore wise orbit is probably much bigger but for gameplay purposes we can only stay in a certain area before geting rebirthed

pastel brookBOT
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pSkyPeek You want me to play you a lullaby or what? pPopcorn

night cliff
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Also, prepare for Elder headcannons, Round 1!
-The Elders had wings. I believe this primarily because wings are just, Really Cool™, and should be a human right, but for a more lore related reason, it shows how close that are to the Megabird, having been gifted with such powerful, beautiful wings.
-(tw:slight mention of body parts, nothing graphic) ||There were these old concepts of the Elders where they would all be missing something, a limb, an organ, and I like that concept, so Yes™. In my little AU/fan timeline, these were taken away by the king due to, uh, Lore reasons. Daleth got their sight taken, Ayin their kind, resilient heart, Teth their skilled and patient hands, Samekh their beautiful wings and thus, their balance, Tsadi their powerful and brave voice, and Lamed their wise voice. The Elders still retain some of their abilities in the spirit realm, as shown in their cutscenes-||

hushed steeple
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🤠💧

icy spruce
hushed steeple
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I do believe they lost the wisdoms somehow. But your idea fits in with kinda, restoring the elders to their former selves in ways.

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Also does that mean headcanonwise, Teth’s ||hands are also robotic?||

icy spruce
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y e s, p l s (I mean, good art material)

night cliff
hushed steeple
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Well in concept arts the twins have robotic arms so it wouldn't hurt to give forest some ‼️

icy spruce
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ye, and it would be cool

night cliff
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The Twins have whole arms, Teth only has robotic hands, so more Elder than mechanic on their part -

hushed steeple
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WHAT IF THEIR BLOOD VESSELS ARE ON THE OUTSIDE OF THEIR BODY🤨‼️ /j

icy spruce
hushed steeple
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I played for a whole five seconds with the idea that the concept animals elders were different forms they where granted to swap between, but either they had that right taken away by Mega or after Kingdom rose they became ashamed of their furry phase alternate forms.

night cliff
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PFFFFFT-

Also, another headcannon- The Kingdom of Sky we play in used to be know as the Kingdom of Purgatorio (this is inspired by Dante's Inferno, where the Garden of Eden sits at the top of Purgatorio/Purgatory)

hushed steeple
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Headcanon: forest cannot cook for the death of them

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More burnt the your skid corpse in eden

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At least shes trying pCry pFIRE

night cliff
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Teth, the Elder that holds the Wisdom of Patience, the Element of Water itself, has burnt water before trying to make pasta

icy spruce
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New food in the menu of MFC! (Megabirb Fried Chicken) We welcome you…FRENCH SKIDS!

hushed steeple
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WHEEEeeeze.

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Their burnt chicken is what corrupted the king

echo cave
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Wait. The elders have names?? Are they official???

icy spruce
hushed steeple
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No, but they used to from devs for OLD concept arts,

echo cave
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Ohhh. Ok

icy spruce
hushed steeple
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But like here are the fanon name if u want:
Isle: Daleth
Prairie: Ayin
Forest: Teth
Valley: Samekh
Wasteland: Tsadi
Vault: Lamed

echo cave
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I hope the next season after the little prince is a lore-heavy one.

hushed steeple
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Did that from memory😎

echo cave
icy spruce
hushed steeple
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season of kirby so the lore can rub off on us

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Can we please get a vault season that isnt a crossover plz i need to know how the elevator works (and if juiced mantas taste good)

icy spruce
hushed steeple
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Watch as vault is delegated to be the crossover season realm.

night cliff
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Also, ELDER HEADCANNONS, ROUND 2,ELECTRIC BOOGALOO (this is where we leave the realm of Canon and enter speculation/"just cuz I said so" zone)
-Other Elders exist, ours aren't the only ones, just like how I headcannon that there are other civilizations, if not in the Sky, then beneath the clouds. Although, I do think our Elders are the Chad™ ones, due to how close they are to Megabird, and thus apear less humanoid and more Eldery.
-Elders are beings that live to guide, lead, unify, govern/rule over, etc. masses of sapient beings. They have their own power, and quite a lot of it, but worship, praise and other such dedication from their civilians gives them more. They have instincts that center around this, to the point its even a need for them.

hushed steeple
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I will take that, and use it to support the concept elders as different people.

icy spruce
hushed steeple
night cliff
lofty void
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whats happening

hushed steeple
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Yeah, now all the elders are in that "doesnt affect the world below but does" place

night cliff
icy spruce
lofty void
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“Teth, the Elder that holds the Wisdom of Patience, the Element of Water itself, has burnt water before trying to make pasta”
best thing i’ve read today

hushed steeple
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I think this set, our set, of elders where created to watch over this rebirth cycle. And prolly are able to send spirits from orbit or from the kingdom.

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The ones like kidnapper forest and tiny ittybitty shaman Vault can still exist somewhere SkyDontGo

icy spruce
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AND WELCOME BACK TO….CHAT GOT KRILLED

hushed steeple
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Ches people typin!

Nvm

icy spruce
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shhh

night cliff
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ROUND 3
-These Elder specific instincts are those of guidance, protection, providence, leader ship, and just a general want for their subjects to be happy, since if the subjects are unhappy with them, this affects the Elders health, making them sick and unhappy in return. The least healthy of the instincts is the possesiveness, although it can be managed. Basically, Elders just "The Megabird sent me down on this world with two hands for a reason, and I will not hesitate to thROW THEM-"
-Thus, after The Fall, and their death/hibernation/entombement/etc. Their instincts have kinda gone SFDDGSGDHFUJGKWQRFFC

icy spruce
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O, smart

hushed steeple
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No people to make happy, finally time to make chaos

night cliff
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-Samekh, 125458225×××^

icy spruce
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so uh, any angst hdcanons with Ayin? (Aka, Prairie Elder)

lofty void
icy spruce
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O, what if Ayin is just doing their job (aka, produce animals to juice for diamonds) and they knows about that but doesn’t really care much (since he’s lazy) so when some people made a sanc islands for mantas he doesn’t care cause ye-

idk anymore

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AND WELCOME BACK TO-

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CHAT GOT KRILLED! I’M YA HOST, as always! And today’s contestant is….drumrolls please….Anzu! With a score of roughly 4 minutes! Nice, they score first place in our daily leaderboard.

pastel brookBOT
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I see you, @icy spruce, you should probably sleep, brah pSquint

night cliff
thin frost
icy spruce
thin frost
icy spruce
pastel brookBOT
thin frost
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and... how can I krill the bot that krilled some people here?

icy spruce
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Basically, the last message of the currently inactive chat is basically krilling the chat

night cliff
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Ok, so-
Ayin was somewhat manipulated/goaded into the manta juice idea by the others. "The people need the light!" "What's a few mantas gonna change?" "It's for the greater good, Ayin". It led to the Manta's leaving Sanctuary Island, and everything added up made Ayin spiral into depression, sleeping more than being awake. Thry blame a lot of The Fall on themselves

icy spruce
thin frost
hushed steeple
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Oh so um sad hc about prairie and earth prophet's relationship um after the explosion, a sickness of consuming darkness followed, and when the spirits of prairie started to run out of medicine, the earth prophet came to the prairie temple but turns out Ayin was talking that 1000 yr nap because he felt like he doesnt have any duties as an elder anymore (he was left out in a lot of stuff to continue breeding animals) and the earth prophet thought Ayin died from that sickness

thin frost
icy spruce
thin frost
lofty void
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sweet i won

hushed steeple
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@night cliff NO PLEASE NOT AYIN BEING USED PLEAAEE NO

primal sierra
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Cursed idea: The Samekh twins are in their 30's

night cliff
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YES, FEEL THE ANGST

primal sierra
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That is all tbank you

icy spruce
primal sierra
night cliff
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Oh, hi Snap!

Twins could steal my wallet and I'd say thank you

lofty rover
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What is happening here

lofty void
icy spruce
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Angsty Elder headcanon

lofty rover
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Hell yes

night cliff
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Hhhh, hold on, I got one, lemme just focus -

hushed steeple
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VAULT BETRAYED FOREST FOR THE KING EVEN THO VAULT AND FOREST R FAMILY AND HAD RESORTED TO JUICING MANTAS A A COPING MECHANISM

night cliff
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Ok so like -
Y'all know when you're in the golden part of orbit, yknow, where the Whale breaks a wall for you? Y'all know the Elder shrines floating there??

hushed steeple
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I HAV E A WHOLE THEORY ABOUT IT

night cliff
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So, like, because the Lower part of Eden is so dark and corrupted, the Elders can only watch from the light part and orbit. Every Sunday, they're dragged there, and have to watch the torrents of children climb the mountain, watch them suffer in agony, and know that they're the reason this is happening. That the Sky kids are doing this for them. So then, was everything they did really worth it?

night cliff
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It's like a punishment from Megabird for messing everything up, and then letting children handle their debts abd mistakes

hushed steeple
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maybe give them a guilt discount on ult hair?

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I do like the idea they have to see EXACTLY what they are asking the new children to do though.

night cliff
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PFFFFFT-
It's the little things. If teaching these small, winged Pyro maniac children that have to keep their world alive how to style their hair like theirs makes them happy, then they'll always be glad to do so

And extra angst. It always hits do much harder if one of the children down there mutters a prayer to one of them, or ask them to save them from the pain they experience, the fear, especially after pnr

hushed steeple
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Like y’all the closest thing they got to parents and they gettin violently murdered down there-

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I saw various fanarts and headcanons of the elders actually having to style the hair of the skid when they gift them the ult.

night cliff
hushed steeple
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I love it, I take it, I accept it, I don’t question how Tsadi does braids with his building sized gauntlets

night cliff
night cliff
icy spruce
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Now that you’ve mentioned parent figures, I know Sky Families are wholesome and all but in lore perspective…it’s basically children that doesn’t rlly have any parental figures trying to be parental figures to new skids yknow?

night cliff
icy spruce
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y e s

night cliff
# icy spruce y e s

So basically, what I'm saying is, the Elders need to pay their goash darn child support (that's a main theme in my AU, but shhhhhhhh-)

lofty rover
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Hehe that's why in my recently made au I just wiped all Elders (:

primal sierra
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Speakin of child support... I like to think that the twins think of Tsadi and Lamed as parental figures, even tho they're neighbors with their actual parent

icy spruce
lofty rover
lofty rover
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You are gonna cry ches (:

night cliff
primal sierra
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Oh ya before I sleep and then forget, the last two chapters are out now

night cliff
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FDGDGSTSFDFDGDGDF

primal sierra
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There's a fire, Lamed girlbossing, and graveyard humor-- Something I think there should be more of in Sky

icy spruce
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IT’S TIME PEEPS, TO EMPIRE MOTHSSSS

lofty rover
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Did the

primal sierra
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Speaking of parents... Why are there so many parents in the Valley? Are the twins just casually building an army of anime moms?

hushed steeple
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Prolly cause its the nice place to raise your kids.

mossy pagoda
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It’s probably because valley represents early adulthood/being in your thirties

hushed steeple
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Granted. Forest is pretty kid-filled too what with belonging and assembly

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headcanon belonging kids eventually meet up with assembly gang and are friends

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Boogie inviting them all over for dinner usually results in chaos. But Sparkler is a good mum so she handles it ok.

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Dreams memories are precious just for including past valley spirits just living their village lives.

mossy pagoda
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Ikr that made my week

primal sierra
hushed steeple
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Timid bookworm confirmed as least likes Sparkler’s cooking SkyLOL ohhh TS hints you are a joy.

mossy pagoda
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But don’t go? That guys grill dad of the century

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He strikes me as someone who would host barbecues constantly

icy spruce
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Ok, sorry ‘bout that

primal sierra
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He grills crabs too iirc

mossy pagoda
primal sierra
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Related to the spirits: I like to think that they have names... But they only give their names to those they absolutely trust

primal sierra
icy spruce
mossy pagoda
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W h o a

primal sierra
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I like to think that Sparkler and Dreams QG are twin sisters who are feral in their own unique way... Who just lets their daughter hang out with a skating master, some musician, the local postman, and the yeti?

mossy pagoda
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The local neighborhood yeti

primal sierra
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U are so right. Who just lets a cryptid babysit an overly energetic kid like that-

mossy pagoda
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I mean they did a good job of it quotes bearhug spirit memory

icy spruce
primal sierra
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Season of Dreams, more like Season of a mom goin out to do errands and making four village cryptids + some flying kid watch over her kid in the meantime

icy spruce
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Mmm, Season of a mom goin out to do errands and making four village cryptids + some flying kid watch over her kid in the meantime

Is my favorite season 🥰 /sarc /lh /j

night cliff
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GFRHSYFRGDGDTD@primal sierra
THAT WAS AMAZING, I LOVED THAT, OH MY GOSH, ||THE BOMBSHELLS THAT DROPPED, THE CLIFFHANGER, I AM H O O K E D.|| PLANTS WATERED, SKIN CLEARED, HOTEL? TRIVAGO, AAAAAAAAA-

sage isle
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Y'all, yk how we ||die(?)|| in ||Eye of Eden|| and like, if the game was only single player then that would be it for us basically and the Elders would just send another Sky to hopefully stop the Diamond. Well, I had a thought, what if the corruption from ||Eden|| doesn't stop? I mean, look at the Golden Wasteland- its corrupted. Down to the Krills and water. What if it reached Valley? Then the Forest then Daylight prairie, then finally...Isle of Dawn.

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I didn't include the vault since when we reached the end of it, it was basically in ruins.

hushed steeple
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I don’t think the point was to fix it. Just set the spirits free and have fun with whats left of it.

sage isle
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Ahh.

hushed steeple
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Things did get a little better. GW n Eden pretty much done for though. pFIRE

sage isle
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I'm just thinkin like- what if it spread yk?

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It's a random thought that bubbled

hushed steeple
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Skykids might also be a preventive measure. I think it was spreading before due to the diamond production, which isn’t happening anymore. But also now, everyday plants are being burned and mantas set free.

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If you like a more stronger, aggressive idea of darkness that more easily spreads though. Theres nothing preventing that idea either. Could be cool.

sage isle
hushed steeple
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Can someone take me to Nintendo home?

little wave
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can i ask a question, im just curious about this symbolism

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in sky, isle's elder's beard, the area you enter right before prairie, sanctuary island's waterfall hill and mountain in citadel it looks like cut in between. like two halves of a whole, sorry im bad at explaining it in english... im curious why its like that

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||it also like that in Journey the mountain mc goes to looks like split in two?||

livid valley
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you dont need to spoiler anything here

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and yes it totally must be split in two by unantural causes

icy spruce
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Ayo, no need to spoiler here. After all, the whole chat IS a spoiler

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Anyways- welcome back to….CHAT GOT KRILLED, SEASON 2!

night cliff
hushed steeple
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Patch update like strait up “dark dragons are evil”

icy spruce
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THAT’S RIGHT! Season 2 now has the Leaderboards. No, not the daily leaderboards, the leaderboard-leaderboard aka, it’s not gonna record CGK’s stuff daily, if yknow what I mean’t- Anyways! For our first contestant of this new season! We have….Meow!

thin estuary
icy spruce
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Not exactly, Season 1 started like since December or smthng-

night cliff
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Is real Empire Moths brain hours right now, just, pWow pWow pWow pWow pAww

icy spruce
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With a total score of…roughly 40 minutes! Darn, that really was long— they score first place as they were the first contestant

night cliff
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Wooooo, go, Meow! pWow pWow pAww

icy spruce
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Hahaha, anyways this is all for now. Can’t wait to see who the other contestant is in…Chat Got Krilled SEASON 2!

pastel brookBOT
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I see you, @icy spruce, you should probably sleep, brah pSquint

icy spruce
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Anyways, cue ads

night cliff
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The Fitness Gram Pacer Test is a-

livid valley
lofty void
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SEASON 2??? YOOO

night cliff
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Anyway -
So, a lot of us have agreed that Lore chat also doubled as storytelling/fanfic/writing chat as well, right?

icy spruce
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And a slight pinch of memes and general

night cliff
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Summarize an arc an OC/OC's have gone through with as little context as possible

livid valley
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memes SCfloppaXD

icy spruce
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I- also, long time no see Meow lmao

livid valley
icy spruce
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hallo

lofty void
night cliff
livid valley
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impostor among us why am i doing this

icy spruce
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Are you a fan of King? Well lucky for you! We have: King Turrets! it can shoots lazar beams to krills to easily fry your meal, you can even krill skids that you hate with all your heart because they didn’t gave your heart back after you said ‘lets heart trade’

night cliff
lofty void
icy spruce
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With King Turrets! And, if you buy the extremely large King Turret, you can get a free discount of every other products in King Propaganda!

livid valley
night cliff
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Opal, walking into the Valley Temple with an armsload of bread, but timidly: B-Besties you wo-would not be-lieve what I learned to do

icy spruce
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And since the Nintendo Sky just released today, we are selling them for 15 candles! Buy now in your local King Propaganda store near you, or check out our website www.ThatKingPropaganda.com for more information

livid valley
lofty void
icy spruce
night cliff
# lofty void b re d

Meanwhile, Valley Twins are going goon in their tomb because, frick yeah, bread!!

livid valley
icy spruce
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BREAD IS THE BEST!!! ESPECIALLY KRILL N CRAB SANDWICH

lofty void
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Mmm Krill n’ Crab sandwiches.

night cliff
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Also, Tiny, they're just-
That one meme where everything is on fire, but the dog is sitting at the table like "This is fine :)"

lofty void
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Kira just dissapears into the shadows because angy

night cliff
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Reject light, return to shadow pEyes

icy spruce
livid valley
primal sierra
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Krill and crab sandwiches, call that a seafood sandwich--

livid valley
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im allergic to seafood SCfloppaXD

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krills and crabs will kill me alive or death SCfloppaXD

night cliff
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Opal: So uh- Today I found a funky looking rock in Prairie. I drew a smily face on it, but it ended up crooked; Sah, nearly crying: "Frick yeah, little dude, I'm sure your funky looking smily rock is amazing pCry. Mek, get the adoption papers-"
Mek, from afar: "Way ahead of ya!"

icy spruce
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HAHAHAHA

lofty void
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WJSNSVHDJDJ

livid valley
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what am i reading SCfloppaXD

night cliff
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Completely self indulgent comfort character nonsense I did with an OC-

lofty void
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god i love the valley twins
(if that wasn’t obvious already)

restive cosmos
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I serve megabird

lofty void
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We all serve Megabird

icy spruce
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King Propaganda are watching you all

livid valley
night cliff
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All Sky kids do, some also just like King Propaganda, or in our cases, think that the Elders are Really Neat™

livid valley
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if you quit sky are you free from megabird ThonkTriangle

night cliff
primal sierra
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Technically Sky is an isekai and Megabird is the god entity who grants you special powers-

night cliff
primal sierra
icy spruce
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O

primal sierra
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"Get down-"
[cuts to an actual ingame footage where a Sky kid spams dance emotes while in the elder OOBs]

icy spruce
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Lmao, what if lore chat have an anime openi- no don’t

night cliff
night cliff
primal sierra
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Kinda doing that already with my fic--

lofty void
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ooh

livid valley
night cliff
icy spruce
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But if Skyscord was an Anime school, I feel like Lore chat is that class that’s at the end of the hall or smthng

lofty void
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lol probably

icy spruce
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While solving the school’s history cause they know that it’s kinda sus

livid valley
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it already feels like it here its the last chat not including beta and bug report SCfloppaXD

icy spruce
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The bug report tbh are just complaint boxes or smthnf where the school put 2 boxes and the students write their complaint on a piece of paper

night cliff
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This^^

lofty void
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FAnart chat is filled with tons of extremely talented students

icy spruce
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y e s

livid valley
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sky memes for the class funny SCfloppaXD

icy spruce
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The people that doesn’t visit Skyscord or offline for a long time are the dropouts or graduates

lofty void
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oof

icy spruce
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And the other Sky server’s are like those treehouses/hideout/club

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I swear if Chat got Krilled-

pastel brookBOT
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pSkyPeek You want me to play you a lullaby or what? pPopcorn

lofty void
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THE BOT

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THE BOT SAVED THE CHAT

icy spruce
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Still doing that reaction thing out of spite >:(

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Anyways- so uh, what now

lofty void
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idk

primal sierra
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I already shared this with oomf but here u go

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The world's pettiest sibling rivalry (affectionate)

icy spruce
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HAHAHAHAHAH

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THEY’RE LIKE, SAMEKH 2.0

primal sierra
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They watched the whole thing too like
Sam: :eye: :lips: :regional_indicator_x:
Mekh: :regional_indicator_x: :lips: :eye: What do we do now--

icy spruce
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Samekh: What have we done

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Well, imo SkyElderValley1 would be laughing his guts out

lofty void
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PFFT

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this is an accurate sibling rivalry

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the chat died

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i think i krilled it

pastel brookBOT
icy spruce
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I-

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pspsspsppspssps, lore moffs pls liven up the chat pspsspsp

wispy parcel
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Pspspspspspspsp

lofty void
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pspspspspspspspspspsps

wispy parcel
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Pspspspspspspss

icy spruce
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pspspspspsps

lofty void
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pspspspspsps

wispy parcel
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Pdpspspspsps

icy spruce
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pspspspspspspspssppspspspsspps, pls

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Chat got krilled

slate saffron
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Resh

icy spruce
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Resh

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what about, Resh

slate saffron
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I have become death, destroyer of worlds

slate saffron
lofty void
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resh

icy spruce
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yes, Resh is poggers

lofty void
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poggers

icy spruce
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So uh, topic. Yes

restive cosmos
icy spruce
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Ik, but that doesn’t mean ur not being watched

worn forge
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I don’t like being watched. stickerShock

cobalt palm
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Lore is that class with the dark aura around it everyone is afraid to go into, but when they're in they love it

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Secondly, lore implications for wastelands pipes?

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Maybe they were transport for a race of mushroom themed plumbers SkyLOL

icy spruce
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SkyLOL

Yes pEyes

somber swallow
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despite twirly boi being swole, he's noticeably smaller than the spirits

icy spruce
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Huh

cobalt palm
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Hero pose is a chonky boi, definately a weightlifter (even if its only the spirit kid)

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And that bell looks pretty heavy too

icy spruce
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JAJAJAAJAHAHA

icy spruce
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And welcome back to….CHAT GOT KRILLED S2!

pastel brookBOT
gilded spoke
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Sky kids are actually quite powerful like they can tank rocks with little damage, handle winds able to carry rocks, expel small sparks to mimic a sparkler, can’t take fall damage and can’t drown

hushed steeple
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Technically can’t die either.

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Ironically children where chosen as the playables due to their lack of strength, independence and lack of fighting things. You know, to be strong in numbers and make friends or somethn who knows.