lore-discussion-spoilers

[thin dirge]

Orrr... that could also be the Earth light

You know, Earth is the ground and all

While the other three is from the sky

[lofty rover]

Possible

[thin dirge]

I saw it as one, just appear like that since it’s now on the ground

[lofty rover]

I thought they got the stars and made the round thing with them or something

You know like the stones weren't there

They got the matter from the stars

[thin dirge]

Well, if it was a diamond, it could’ve been drawn like one

[lofty rover]

Which helped them fly and build a kingdom in sky where they got more ore or something

[thin dirge]

That’s possible, but I don’t think it would’ve happened like a diamond

[lofty rover]

Since the cave murals there are no clouds but onwards you see they started going above clouds

[thin dirge]

Diamonds probably occurred during Forest’s stage of civilisation

[lofty rover]

But if there were no diamonds, how did they reach sky and its realms?

They couldn't fly, clearly

They took the 4 things, they are going above clouds. They are flying

[pseudo heart]

There are boat styles that didn't seem to use diamond technology

[lofty rover]

Before that they were praying for something from the sky. And were on ground

They how did they fly if not diamond?

[pseudo heart]

And then mantas

[lofty rover]

Another thing is, the isle temple is probably new. Due to the fact that it has king symbols.

And isle has a lot of destroyed boats. If isle was hit bad. How was it before?

Yet we don't see any creatures of darkness lurk in isle

[broken basin]

I believe isle is an ocean bed. There was water there, but now, the water level is down. These platforms look like boat piers, and they must be at a height where there was water some time ago.
That's just what i think

[icy spruce]

ye it most likely is

[fervent sluice]

Want to ask for you all's opinons please

what does vault represent according to the pictures at the office.

cause it only say these

Dawn = Birth
Day = Childhood
Rain = Teenage
Sunset = Adulthood
Dusk = Midlife
Storm = Aging/Death
Orbit = Rebirth

[restive cosmos]

There are four trials
Connection?

[icy spruce]

Pretty sure Vault is also ageing

[fervent sluice]

ok

[lofty rover]

Yeah I mean it is can be that being a very obvious connection

Yeah isle may be water then what about all the things on ground level?

And the mural clearly shows boat going into the sky

Above the clouds

[cosmic willow]

well the opening cutscene said that “fallen stars built their home among the clouds”

[lofty rover]

So before the stars fell, they lived on ground level?

[cosmic willow]

think the fallen stars were elders

there were prolly people pre-existing on the lands below

since elders look vastly different from the ancestor spirits

[lofty rover]

Yet, that would make it seem that they didn't have the technology to fly before the stars fell

[cosmic willow]

true

the only place that actually needed flight except for the tutorial bit was the elder temple

[lofty rover]

Which further circles back to my question, the falling round thing helped them fly

The elder temple, like I said, seems new.

Because it has the king picture

[cosmic willow]

true

but the final proph mural also has similar things

[lofty rover]

Thus isle didn't get an element but got an elder and a temple. And looks like not many people lived there

[cosmic willow]

yep

least spirit memories too

[lofty rover]

The prof murals shows clear coloured stars. While the isle mural shows a circle

I am kind of getting the feeling that these two are different things

[cosmic willow]

these king turrets i was talking about

[icy spruce]

mmm king turrets

mmmmmmmmmm

[lofty rover]

These two seem different to me

[cosmic willow]

they are

but the circle thing seemed to be an emblem of the skids

[lofty rover]

The 3/4 fallen stars dont seem like elemental lights idk

[cosmic willow]

haven’t checked in a while but the child stargazer found had a similar symbol

[lofty rover]

Isnt that like battle armour or something

[cosmic willow]

could be yeah

like how the vault peeps were all kneeling

[lofty rover]

Wait

[cosmic willow]

a symbol of what made the realm distinctive

[lofty rover]

Wait a

Now that I look at it

The cave prof mural that I just sent

Is telling how each elder used that light

[cosmic willow]

wasteland elder put it somewhere

[lofty rover]

In a weapon or juicer idk what that is

[cosmic willow]

forest is doing a show and tell to the mantas

[lofty rover]

Forest looks fascinated

[cosmic willow]

prairie consumes it while everyone watches

[lofty rover]

Prairie gave it a temple

Put it in a scared safe place

[cosmic willow]

valley twins let it drive a float boat

[lofty rover]

Valley looks like it got a balloon

Or a beach ball

[cosmic willow]

wait

so prairie gets earth and puts it in a temple right
the prairie temple is filled with pots
what are pots made of?clay which is fancier earth

[lofty rover]

Also, wasteland is the only one that kept it below the head level.

They didn't think of it as a superior power to worship but like a tool

With valley and forest they do admire it, hence it is higher, but not like prairie

It's a toy or a research experiment for them

[cosmic willow]

interesting angle

don’t see much fire in wasteland unless you’re counting the theory that the krill were a cosmic imbalance

[lofty rover]

Is that a.. heater?

Or a furnace?

[cosmic willow]

gets chilly in the wasteland sometimes

also why are there random people just staring

[lofty rover]

They are the common mass

[cosmic willow]

our mighty elder,the warrior who protects our land gently slides the glowing orange star into a heater
it gets cold at night,they said.

[coral palm]

is there any lore on the season of assembly?

im no longer play sky but i still want to know

[thin dirge]

I see of them being the same, just drawn differently.

The Prophecy murals would be drawn differently because its... Well, a prophecy. Any mural there was probaly created by some special force, maybe Megabird.

The murals in Isle? They seem to be hand drawn, so they aren't colored or drawn the same way in Prophecy. The murals in Isle seem to be depicting past events while Prophecy murals were special since its a sacred place usually for Prophecies or anything Megabird tells the Prophets

Also, its no coincidence that theres always four ancestors and four stars

[lofty rover]

Hmm hmm makes sense

[thin dirge]

I think the first mural that shows them praying actually depicts them recieving the Prophecy

[lofty rover]

Ye possible.

[thin dirge]

Like, the Prince coming down from the sky and the lights coming as well

[lofty rover]

But if they are the lights then where is the Prince coming down drawn? Or is it not?

[thin dirge]

Stargazer's memories

[lofty rover]

Hm hmm

[thin dirge]

Also, mural kinda hints a star falling down to Isle as well if you watch the cutscene of finishing the first trial

Like, closely

[lofty rover]

Yeah I think I remember something like that

[thin dirge]

We see a singular streak of a star falling down through the clouds, then pans down to Isle

[lofty rover]

I see I see

[thin dirge]

Hmm... I wonder if I should attempt making some form of storytelling of my own view of Sky lore...

[lofty rover]

Ye

What do you think the furnace thing is btw

[thin dirge]

Furnace?

[lofty rover]

The mural pic I sent

We see the elders how they treated their lights

Wasteland elder puts it into something

[thin dirge]

Ohhh

He appears to have powered the turrets with the orange light

Wait, hold up-

Was it those turrets that killed the Light Creatures in GW!?!?

Combined with Krill??

[lofty rover]

What's a turret

Ah

That

[cosmic willow]

big fancy tower

[lofty rover]

Ye got it, thanks :3

I kinda feel their stances are very well drawn. In that picture

You can get the feel of what they did

[cosmic willow]

yep

forest is in awe,valley has fun with it,prairie puts it on a pedestal and gw just went meh

[lofty rover]

HOLD. UP.

HOLD UP

The higher the light the lesser the destruction

[cosmic willow]

oh yeah

[lofty rover]

GW is lowest - f/b forest then valley and finally prarie

[unkempt plank]

HAi

[bitter shale]

okie so a dev just said that the postman have another occupation before become a postman... and the hint is on their pants right?

the dev design it based on a job uniform-

tbh idk but somehow their pants kinda remind me of marching band uniform-

something like this, tbh im not sure but they does have some similiarities

[pseudo heart]

It does look similar.. and it makes sense since iirc the village is a place of retired entertainers?

[nocturne crow]

Who is this guy?

And how do I get his sword to fight with?

[harsh pecan]

I think you go to the catapult

[nocturne crow]

I know but, I want the sword and the lore behind this dude

[harsh pecan]

Same

[pseudo heart]

They look like one of the models for spirits in Light Awaits

Hold on a bit

[true grove]

You cannot use the sword

[nocturne crow]

Wack

[true grove]

The lore behind it isn't clear

You can make your own theories too
My theory is that it's a spirit that fought in the battlefield war or maybe it's a statue

[nocturne crow]

Huh

im getting that sword

[true grove]

Ok

There are two in eden

Where there's a lonely winglight

The first one

And a shield too

[nocturne crow]

Of the statue or sword?

[pseudo heart]

Found it

[true grove]

Sword 👁️👄👁️

[pseudo heart]

It was the old design for faint spirit

[true grove]

Skybot!!!!!!

[pseudo heart]

[true grove]

Those spirits look funni

[pseudo heart]

I don't know if it really is them but they look similar

Unpolished model?

[true grove]

Yes, skybot is a spirit model

Probably the valley one

[icy spruce]

And once again

Chat got krilled

[lofty rover]

First of all. That's a cute chibi.
Seeing that he is kneeling he looks like an army general.
Possibilities:
A. The guy who sacrificed himself and got turned to stone to protect someone.
B. The statue of the most loyal warrior.
C. The warrior of the enemy that actually turned his back on them. His loyalty wasn't with them and he paid the price.
D. He was loyal but didn't wish to fight anymore. Turned to stone. People who secretly agreed and respected him left that candle.

Like saw the fault in own side

[true grove]

[lofty rover]

What just happened

[icy spruce]

Aaaaa

A

[true grove]

Magic

[bitter shale]

different color, but yeah i think the postman's former occupation is a part of marching band??

totally not getting that from a vid of russian guy dancing to rasputin

[icy spruce]

I

[true grove]

I thought postman was a athlete who participated in valley races because they were training the girl.

[bitter shale]

huh, yeah-

[orchid jolt]

Along with the catapult statue, there are 5 other statues I think are more than just statues. The 5 in eden, two covered in crystals and 3 that crumble to dust.

also

you guys know how when we use return shrines they get covered in the scale pattern that appears on our capes while recharging?

the return shrines in ark and sanctuary are always covered in the scales

who came here before us?

the prince? the 5 lost ones in eden?

whomever they are, they visited the seasons...

[lofty rover]

The egg or the chicken question, I see.

[orchid jolt]

it is interesting tho

also, unrelated, both the murals on the ship in ark and the murals in prophecy have krill

[tired vault]

I have 2 theories

[icy spruce]

No

[orchid jolt]

there is a time for burrito and serious lore discussion

but only one at a time pls

btw, sry if im being rude or anything

[tired vault]

Official HBT: time traveling Holy Burrito
Unofficial moi: this cycle of ancestor and descendant, the ancestor screwing up, and the descendent trying not to screw up, is not the first

All good

[orchid jolt]

ok

[icy spruce]

I

[orchid jolt]

but ONLY those two return shrines are constantly lit up in scales

[tired vault]

I always thought they looked more like the tiny feathers you see on the animal’s scruff

As opposed to wing feathers

[orchid jolt]

they were designed off of scales,but i see what u mean

i can probably find the photo

oh

its both scales and feathers

you were right!

[tired vault]

Well, both the capes and the stones are connections to the ancestor spirits, so I would simply assume that the same technology was used to create both: the animals’ light

[orchid jolt]

what im wondering is why those two are covered in scales when the rest of the return shrines ONLY gain the scales when you use them to go home

This only occured cause someone used it go home

The scales were halfway to dissapearing till someone else used it

[tired vault]

Maybe it has to do with the fact that they’re located in temporal planes outside of the original path? But then the dreams and prophecy ones would also be like that...

Interesting query

[orchid jolt]

also, neither the return shrine nor the home shrine in eden seem to do that

also, i got inside the whale in orbit

some people seemed to claim it drained light when they managed to get close on the wiki, https://sky-children-of-the-light.fandom.com/wiki/Creatures#Whales

one whale left to check

and im not including oobing to a whale

ive gotten to the one in between valley and gw so all thats left is hidden forest

[lost hull]

oh it doesn't drain light when you get close, but when you get hit by it you lose light

[icy spruce]

Ye

[prisma meadow]

hmm is there a lore or explentation why we get reborn but spirits cant?

[true grove]

Maybe spirits are reborn as us

They turn into golden sky kids at the end of orbit sequence when we turn to go to the light

[hushed steeple]

hi

[true grove]

#lore-discussion-spoilers message

[hushed steeple]

how long you guys been playing

[true grove]

If you want to chat you can checkout #general-sky-discussion or #cozy-sky-discussion

This is the lore chat, we talk about game lore here

[hushed steeple]

oh ok sorry

[shut junco]

spirits and skykids are not the same so that's probably why. i think skykids were designed with rebirth in mind, whereas spirits were simply mortal creatures with a lot of ambition, playing god (creating life such as crabs) but ultimately not immortal (graves everywhere)

[icy spruce]

ye I also think so

like, skids are the more advance creatures yknow

[pseudo heart]

I mean ye

Megabird's gotta dish out more updated stuff, wouldn't want the housekeepers of ur own lands be like the old ones

Wouldn't want to make the same mistake, that's gon be bad for business

[sullen axle]

d-did they made the crebs?

[shut junco]

idk but forest elder brings one back to life in its temple cutscene, using your light, so my understanding always was that they bad been created by the elders

similar to how the skykids are part light part gray elder color

[sullen axle]

crab??

[shut junco]

ye

krob

[sullen axle]

BRUH HOW

thats a light cristal

which known to be lead to the caos in gw and eden because of that damn king

yeet him

idk how this could be a crab @shut junco

[shut junco]

krob

[sullen axle]

THIS IS CLEARLY A CRISTAL

IT DOESNT EVEN HAVE LEGS

AAAAA

sb plz help me

[shut junco]

lmao i'm probably wrong but i need to go look at it myself

[icy spruce]

Ye its a diamond

[sullen axle]

but it would be noice if it was a creb 🌝

[icy spruce]

bonk

[sullen axle]

imagine ascending creb

[orchid jolt]

I am inside of the 3D model. I went inside of it

you can bring a crab to forest elder and to the prairie elders!

[orchid jolt]

I hit it but there was no collision

[shut junco]

y'all didn't believe me

i'm tired of the misinformation

(jk it rly is a diamond)

[icy spruce]

wait, it's a crab this entire time

(lmao)

[shut junco]

i guess that was my impression on my first playthrough and it stuck with me even tho i was wrong. it's also the reason i assumed dark dragon were man made.

[icy spruce]

huh

[hushed steeple]

I see

[open oyster]

Are candles called light tributes in game?

[true grove]

Candles are called candles

[lone rampart]

scientific name: light tributes

[shut trellis]

can spirits take physical forms in the overworld? since the QG gave us a high five

[hushed glen]

Most likely yes

[shut trellis]

okay!

[humble escarp]

What if the krills are the pets of the Wasteland elders, and that they don't want their owner's grave to be disturb 🤔

[unreal vector]

I doubt that because I don’t think anyone would want to live in eden

Also important question: what do sky kids eat, if anything?

[shut junco]

haha we tried to answer that yesterday. we generally agreed that while spirits probably ate stuff like crabs etc when they were alive, sky kids likely don't eat anything other than light

because they are ethereal beings, not quite mortal

[unreal vector]

That makes sense

But... they can also drink tea

And if food was non-essential to their diet, wouldn’t it be similar to alcohol?

[shut junco]

oop that's true i forgot about the tea set

idk if you have that reference but in steven universe, gems don't need to eat because their bodies are made of light (just like the sky kids, sort of?), yet some still do it anyway for fun

so yea maybe they can drink tea, feel relaxed by it, but there is no vital point to it

idk that it has to act like alcohol xD but it sounds like the same idea

[unreal vector]

Thanks

[tired vault]

...burritos

[unreal vector]

I would also like to state that sky kids are weak to anything that moves fast instead of water.
They can sometimes get hurt if you run into something while you are moving REALLY fast, and rain is just water that is falling quickly.

[wispy parcel]

Hi

[hushed steeple]

Hi

[mint widget]

hi lore chat

[hushed steeple]

[cosmic willow]

does that make wasteland water polluted and fast

[gray plume]

I have a counter argument for that

[cosmic willow]

cool

personally i don’t think that it’s fast either tbh
your skid doesn’t seem too be pulled by the water current

[pseudo heart]

I can't breathe why is this so well edited

[rich flume]

where is that second picture?

it looks so pretty..

[gray plume]

OOB Location at the very end of valley of triumph

[pseudo heart]

It looks like the Valley Stadium at day OOB

[rich flume]

ooh cool

[gray plume]

If you wanna know how to get there just look up videos on how to find the “ City of 1000 birds”

Make sure the video you’re looking for is sky related

[rich flume]

thanks !! will do.

[gray plume]

[thin dirge]

I once pointed it out before that the beam in Eden resembles the beam whenever we finish an Elder cutscene

[pseudo heart]

Ah yes that

[thin dirge]

Y'know, the beam that appears that points to their constellation and all

[gray plume]

I make videos for fun, I have a lot more lol

[normal berry]

counter argument: If skykids were truly that weak to fast moving forces, wouldn’t wind walls hurt them theoretically

[normal berry]

and wasteland water is still

[thin dirge]

We also see the kid in the Prophecy murals kinda creating the same beam thing as well

[pseudo heart]

This one

[rich flume]

I think walls did hurt them at some point because I remember one time about 5 months ago I hit the ground too hard in valley and lost light

[normal berry]

this is the best, everyone else go home

[thin dirge]

Though, Elder beam points up to their constellation

[pseudo heart]

Bonk damage

Ah yes..

But now

They're practically invincible

[normal berry]

the only thing that harms them is pure darkness

[pseudo heart]

And sludge water

[thin dirge]

Ahh, nvm

I'll talk about this later

[gray plume]

Yo I think I know the truth behind Eden😳 I have a photo to prove it, it’s leaked information from TGC

Here, this is the photo

[normal berry]

krill and eden rocks seem to be the most dangerous things to them, and krill are HUGE and as far as we know eden is basically darkness on steroids, so skykids are PRETTY resilient

[gray plume]

🥵

[normal berry]

yo! you can't just go around leaking the next seasonal pendant and cosmetics

[gray plume]

Ah my bad

[pseudo heart]

I have a challenger

[normal berry]

to beta spoilers it goes

[thin dirge]

Its funny that the previous conversation here before was about how skids are vulnerable to anything fast or something

[gray plume]

Let’s goooo

[thin dirge]

Hmm... Should I leave this chat as dead, or shall I continue?

[pseudo heart]

Do continue

[thin dirge]

The Eden Elder's constellation is pretty much our constellation, The Light, so the beam in Eden would point the Light, which makes sense for rebirth

However, I just realised the spirits we gather to the Elders ascend up right before the beam appears

I think the beam that occurs is related to ascending spirits

When we relive Seasonal Spirits, we don't need to bring them anywhere for them to go up

While with the normal spirits, we have to get the Elders

I think its because of the beam in Eden that allows spirits to ascend, normal spirits that arent linked to the Elders

Its active all the time, so I guess you could say the beam acts as some connection to the Light

Which is interesting, because Eden is meant to be a place thats disconnected from the Light

Its the only realm without the "circle" in the Social Area, representing connection with the Light

Maybe the statues in Eden had something to do with it?

I mean, there's a lot of them going towards the Diamond for a reason...

[raw moth]

So, the theory about all the realms being the same place is based on Forest Temple looking almost identical to Upper Swamp, right? If that's the case, Boneyard would have to be Broken Temple.

I have nothing against the theory, but this is a point against it.

This is Boneyard.

This is Broken Temple.

For them to be the same place, there would need to be this much sand.

[atomic salmon]

I love the last photo out of context

[lofty rover]

Ye I asked this earlier..
That light is basically what connects sky realm and the final destination.
And that it was established by our very own shiny boi.
It is also the light that helps us ascend after we die.
And it never actually disconnected.
And yet it comes out from the diamond.

[cosmic willow]

personally i don’t believe in the same realm theory but maybe upper swamp and the boneyard structure aren’t temples

they seem to be factories

[atomic salmon]

Any lore enthusiast with an idea of what this might be?

[cosmic willow]

oh these are just lightseeker orbs

seasonal thing

[atomic salmon]

Yeah but why did they put a shrine at the end of it (the forest elder shrine?)

[cosmic willow]

maybe it’s because the forest elder was most attached to that area

[atomic salmon]

O h
Sorry I have only been playing this game for a total of around 2 months lol

[cosmic willow]

heard the temples are places the elders are most attached to

[atomic salmon]

That sounds really neat!

And makes a lot of sense I guess

[cosmic willow]

and forest is seen making a diamond in the cutscene so she must really care about the factory
and for good reason too,it looks super neat

[cosmic willow]

which would give me a shrine in my room if i was an elder

[atomic salmon]

It would be right on my bed lol

[lofty rover]

I wouldn't want a shrine in my room. It's a rock.

Lot of maintainence

[cosmic willow]

you’re right

also there are candles on that

don’t want my blankets catching fire

[lofty rover]

I'd rather not be an elder to begin with. Just be a background character and chill.

[atomic salmon]

Either way the spear and shield on the Wasteland elder's shrine seems to belong to them

[cosmic willow]

yep

[lofty rover]

Yeah like a tribute

[cosmic willow]

and they swing them around like it’s nothing

[atomic salmon]

Yeah I would be the spirit with the emote of laying around

[lofty rover]

The way mummies were buried with their possessions

[atomic salmon]

Sounds legit

[lofty rover]

Temples are basically pyramids

[cosmic willow]

the forest one does kinda look like one tbh

but the closer i look it looks more like an aztec monument

[lofty rover]

The design isn't pyramid

But functionally

[cosmic willow]

i guess

[lofty rover]

If the centre stone is the grave stone

[cosmic willow]

but what does prairie do with all of those pots

i need answers

[lofty rover]

makes butter

-fly

[atomic salmon]

I heard somewhere that they are food containers

[lofty rover]

butter.... fly

[atomic salmon]

Prairie is said to be an agricultral realm I think

[lofty rover]

The big ones with like a tiny opening in the pot are the butter ones

Rest idk

Maybe pickled mantas who knows

[atomic salmon]

Or butterfly containers to be sent to the manta juicer

[lofty rover]

The rest containers I saw, specially in valley, come in different varieties. Like tall slender ones

I don't feel those are for butterflies

[atomic salmon]

Could be food or other materials as I just said

[cosmic willow]

there is a mural of the pots being sent to forest

[lofty rover]

Ye

[atomic salmon]

Yep

So those pots are probably light creatures for the manta juicer

[cosmic willow]

yep

[lofty rover]

The slender ones evolved into skids and deep down all we are, is forbidden arts used on manta juice

[hushed steeple]

Or to aid the replenishment

Turning light into butterflies to turn butterflies into light?

[cosmic willow]

btw light creatures are few in industrial realms

especially gw

[atomic salmon]

Yep exactly

[lofty rover]

Cause krill attacc

[cosmic willow]

the only large amount of light creatures you see are the graveyard gate birds

and those seem like a game mechanic

[atomic salmon]

Or overhunting of them to feed to the manta juicers

[cosmic willow]

yep

[lofty rover]

But krill attac too

[cosmic willow]

yes they do

[atomic salmon]

Yeah because they hungry for light

[hushed steeple]

Crabs are the real mystery. Move like something that is mysterious, edible, look like stone and can be friendly.

[lofty rover]

Crabs got the infection

[atomic salmon]

I think crabs are just spontaneously born creatures given enough amount of darkness

[shut junco]

excuse me manta juicers??

[lofty rover]

I love how the toasty in sunlight.

[hushed steeple]

I think they are light dark corrupt pot robots

That are edible

[shut junco]

are they organic

[atomic salmon]

Maybe?

[lofty rover]

Oh btw all dark attackers: krill and crabs
Get "red" and will charge in a straight line only.

[hushed steeple]

Wow thats a angry name

[raw moth]

The official word is that dark creatures are born, not created... but what if it's exact words?
What if the first dark creatures were created, and they breed more dark creatures?

[cosmic willow]

red is rare in sky and it seems to mean aggression

[atomic salmon]

That's why I headcanon krills as having tunnel vision
Krebs? Idk

[cosmic willow]

it’s only commonly seen in eden and it’s pretty much time to die as a realm

[hushed steeple]

Sigh. I dream of dark octopus and dark angler.

[shut junco]

isn't red also the color of diamond tech?

[lofty rover]

Krills are just aggregated crab things

[shut junco]

like the giant red diamond at the end of yu kno where

[lofty rover]

The rocks of Eden are red

[shut junco]

right

[lofty rover]

Red is danger

I guess

[atomic salmon]

Yeah I kinda think of krills as overgrown crabs because of the pollution that act as some kind of steroid-growth hormone

[lofty rover]

Interesting

[atomic salmon]

Like axolotls
They are never fully grown in the wild, but can be induced to full growth in the lab

[lofty rover]

Or could be insulin. Krills be hungry

[lofty rover]

Axolotls are cute. Krills...

Also, krill number doesn't seem to increase

That means they aren't ...dividing

[shut junco]

where the baby krills D:

[lofty rover]

Is there a reason why they won't take over everything and just call it a day

[shut junco]

tgc fix ur game baby krills now

either they don't attack other land because they are wild creatures and don't need to conquer any land but their hunting grounds, or they are programmed to stay there, be it because they're robotic in some way or because darkness is ordering them to keep light away from eden

i like that last idea personally

[lofty rover]

If krills are primal beings, and are just interested in food they would have had primary multiplication operations

Yet, they haunt dark realms like forever single bitter teens

[shut junco]

mood

[livid valley]

Bring back adult krill's

[lofty rover]

wait am I a krill too?!

[shut junco]

yes

[lofty rover]

spots sky couple
throws them to the krills

[shut junco]

now who hasnt fantasized about that

well except couples

so anyway krills aren't primal

[lofty rover]

Hmm they aren't exactly... smart

[shut junco]

no but they might be automated

[lofty rover]

But they simply may be lower forms

Or you know dark matter causes brain damage

Leaving you with only primal instincts

[shut junco]

why do they react so wildly to light specifically

[lofty rover]

Darkness is absence of light, so they want the light.
And they may see it as food

Second may be they hate the light and want to make you dark too

Third they can't stand the light

Darkness has effects similar to hydrophobia or something

[shut junco]

lol

does darkness have a mind

like is it doing things on purpose

[lofty rover]

Not really I feel it's an attribute like a disease

[shut junco]

mmh so nothing is planned, it just overtakes anything that is vulnerable

[lofty rover]

It can effect your mind but doesn't have its own

[shut junco]

right

[lofty rover]

Like a virus

[shut junco]

darkness does represent isolation and disconnection so it wouldn't make sense for it to be a sort of hivemind

[cosmic willow]

As a plant i also have a headcanon about that

[lofty rover]

Ye

[cosmic willow]

darkness plants sprout where light is absent and are often on butterflies jars and mantas

[lofty rover]

Darkness I feel is a parasite.

[cosmic willow]

could it be some sort of fungal parasite

[lofty rover]

Ye

[cosmic willow]

it’s on spirits too sometimes

like the third person with crying miner

[lofty rover]

Since light has a physical form in skyverse

Darkness being a parasite that thrives off light makes sense

[cosmic willow]

yep

[shut junco]

i don't know if the darkness literally grew on that person but i like to believe that spirit's despair seeped into the ground, sprouting darkness

[lofty rover]

And it is found in dark places but also is the reason the places are dark

[cosmic willow]

especially because all creatures have some sort of light in them

[cosmic willow]

oh yeah the darkness is negative emotions theory

[lofty rover]

Yeah

[shut junco]

ye

[cosmic willow]

your headcanon makes more sense in that context

[lofty rover]

I have the whole thing that all emotions have physical implications in skyverse

[cosmic willow]

when you consider that the colour in the realms are put together for emotional impact,yes

daylight prairie is supposed to be carefree and joyful much like childhood

and so the colours are vibrant and the creatures are lively and energised

[lofty rover]

Also, while CR today I kinda had the thought about why rain drains but water in forest doesn't.

[lofty rover]

Yeah

So to get GW water out of the way, it's dark. It has darkness in it. That's why it drains us. It's not the water draining us, it's what's mixed in it
Hence, in forest...
it's not the water that drains us.. it's the rain.
Rain, by the virtue of "falling down" makes our wings heavy.
You know how birds can swim but struggle to fly through rain

[cosmic willow]

yep

[lofty rover]

Same mechanism.

We are birbs

[cosmic willow]

GW water is the same as the polluted geyser water because there’s stuff mixed into it

[cosmic willow]

considering that the only creator deity in this setting is a giant bird,yes

[shut junco]

lol

[lofty rover]

Ye

[cosmic willow]

birbs also can’t fly when their wings are stuck in oil,which is a water pollutant

Sky:birds of the light confirmed

[shut junco]

what do these mean?

it's like they discovered something at the bottom of a lake they were draining

[cosmic willow]

where is this mural?

the crabwalker cave?

[shut junco]

idk about that because i'm new to seasons, but it's the cave near the Ark from Enchantment

[cosmic willow]

so it is the crabwalker cave

guess that explains why there are so many crabs in there

the story of enchantment is basically about spirits who crashed in a desert land and couldn’t survive

not too sure but the coloured elemental lights were basically the things they needed to survive like the green light to make soil fertile for them to plant

[shut junco]

right

[cosmic willow]

and i guess in an attempt to get good water they went in the cave and found too many crabs and ran away

except probably crabwalker who learnt how to walk like them and gave one of my favourite emotes

in case you couldn’t already tell by now crabwalker was my first ts and it’s special to me

[shut junco]

hahaha i know people like them a lot

and want it to come back as a ts

so after zooming in i realized that thing in the middle of the lake is just a discarded jar, so i guess you're right, it's just there to illustrate how despite their efforts to acquire resources, the environment was far too hostile

[cosmic willow]

it was a mistake release but aaa

[cosmic willow]

i never actually realised that tbh

also could those arrow like things be mantas

because we don’t see any in the ark...enchantment spirits did you eat them

[dense arch]

maybe they went nyoom away

[cosmic willow]

maybe they just didn’t like the pre-cyan light atmosphere

[elder sparrow]

Is chat asleep or is my wifi acting up?

[pastel brook]

I'm proud of you for getting enough sneep snorp, @elder sparrow

[elder sparrow]

Thanks skybot

[icy spruce]

chat's dead

[pastel brook]

I've heard a rumour that mods don't know what sneep snorp is because they're always here

[icy spruce]

dead as eden

[true grove]

Wdym eden is the most lively

[icy spruce]

mm true

dead as the Ancestors ig

[thin dirge]

I wanna continue off of that rambling I had about the Eden diamond beam

Last thing I mentioned was how despite this diamond being seen as the Original Sin, despite Eden being disconnected, the Diamond is somehow connected to the Light

And coincidently, there's statues of CoL look-a-likes going towards it... As if to do something with the diamond

Pretty much "died" there until we came along

I mentioned that there must've been a reason why those kids went there. And I dont think its just "to die" cause they aren't able to ascend until we came along

I think... they may have went to Eden to re-establish the lost connection with the Light, using the Diamond

I've always theorized the kids in Eden being the true descendants. At least, the ones that has the strongest resemblance to the descendants from the concepts

This may be why the Diamond area was called "The Original Sin"

The ppl of Sky Kingdom disconnecting from the Light WAS the Original Sin

And the Diamond itself was linked to it

It possibly caused the creatures to lead astray, and the spirits to wander and unable to ascend, because they're connection to the Light was somehow cut off

It possibly also hindered the Light/Megabird to intervene directly about what was going on in the Kingdom

One thing to note is that when our light is extinguished, the Light couldn't guide us

Like, there's no marker that will tell us where to go when we honk

The Prince/King possibly lost connection to the Light as well, so there's not really much the Light could do

The best method is to probably send someone

Thus, the descendants that we now see in Eden

They were probably sent long before us, in an attempt to reconnect the land to the Light

It's also possible that its because of these events that it was made possible for the Light to reach out to the Prince again, if we go with that theory

So the truth is, perhaps we aren't quite the new generation here that would write the wrongs of the past. We're finishing what the others started

[dense arch]

th eamount of text oh my god

[thin dirge]

Also note in Prairie's pin poem, it mentions "Fly up, fly away, for the Children of Light in need.", which could be referring to the kids in Eden

So tldr, the kids in Eden were the descendants sent by the Light to re-establish its severed connection with the land. We were sent to shepherd the souls left behind

The original sin in Sky, the colossal "mistake" that was made was perhaps how the connection to the Light was severed, possibly something to do with Eden Diamond at one point

[jovial wolf]

Is there any theory about calndles ?

Who did spread red candles accross the realms, why a white candle fall from the sky when i collect orb

[icy spruce]

1. Prolly the ancestor

2. Candles are considered as a blessing from the Light I believed

[jovial wolf]

Ok... and what a spirit would do with 70 of my?

[icy spruce]

I mean, candle makers exist in Sky

since the spirit uhh

I forgot which one but the one in Isle in the cave

[jovial wolf]

Oh yes that’s true

[icy spruce]

ye

there was prolly a lot

but we don't see them

since they either ascended or just

uhh don't exist anymore

[pseudo heart]

Theory about candles...

Ehehhehhehehehhe

[lofty rover]

I do have like two thoughts about that.
One shiny boi established the beam.
At no point did we se it disconnected. And the diamond was already there.
That means the diamond was supposed to be there.
Yet it has cracks. What happened that the diamond cracked?
It either has to be the fault of diamond itself or t he shiny boi. Since those two things are the ingredients.
In pics we see king shrouded in dark clothes to the point people believe it isn't the shiny boi .
That could mean he had forsaken his light. Which caused the "disconnect".
Another thing was maybe they tried extracting the power of said diamond

[cosmic willow]

so I guess there’s a reason to the shape of the diamonds

they’re based on the diamond

[thin dirge]

The first CoL established the first connection since the CoL was possibly a direct incarnation of the Light

Im thinking something occurred, like maybe the big Diamond explosion that broke the connection

We dont really see a Diamond in the mural where the CoL triggers the beam, so I'm thinking the Child normally creates the beam manually, and perhaps the Diamond is later created to sustain that connection?

After all, we see the Elders do something similar in their cutscenes

[lofty rover]

I suggested that

Since I thought he did it manually and the diamond is a replacement cause something either went wrong or they tried placing it there for some scienc-y reason

But it was pointed to me that the same mural has a diamond there

And the boi was still shiny then.

[thin dirge]

There was a diamond?

[lofty rover]

Yeah I don't have screenshots with shiny boi sadly, since I went later

But this is the part that shows the diamond

[thin dirge]

Yep, there

I thought you were talking about the previous mural

[lofty rover]

Oh no that doesn't show the inside of the mountain

[cosmic willow]

doing trials rn and just realised something

[lofty rover]

But there is harmony in this picture and the king was just coronated. Which does shake the theory a bit and makes you wonder if the diamond was already there

[cosmic willow]

we glow in orbit and after a trial

[lofty rover]

Ye

[thin dirge]

My headcanon was that the Diamond was made to commemorate the Prince's coronation and was kinda made sustain the connection with the Light

[cosmic willow]

prince is a glowy boo

[thin dirge]

When I look further, it sort of makes sense...

We know each realm represents a stage in Sky's civilisation, and there the Citadel, full of circles

[cosmic willow]

could those parts be us experiencing the prince

[lofty rover]

Ye a plausible theory

[thin dirge]

Circles which would represent the Light and our connnectiom to it. I'm think it was during this golden age that the connection to the Light was at its strongest

[lofty rover]

Hmm hmm

[thin dirge]

But I'm thinking something occurred, or the Elders did something that caused something to go baddd

[lofty rover]

Wait

Hold up

[thin dirge]

Maybe related to the war?

[lofty rover]

We automatically assume the going wrong part is to do with diamond

What if

It's to do with Prince

The Prince died

[cosmic willow]

wait but didn’t it say in concepts that the corridor to gw had animal cages showing disconnection?

[thin dirge]

Yeah, tho GW is after Valley

[lofty rover]

Idk cause of the war or something but he almost died.

Or is dead

[thin dirge]

I think afterwards, or maybe even during the golden age, but hidden out of plain sight, there was something going not so right

[cosmic willow]

basically valley was where the king was at height

[lofty rover]

Yeah like I said the mural itself

[cosmic willow]

hubris

[thin dirge]

Im thinking Prince was probably the last to go after the Elders

[lofty rover]

Shows how the elders received each light

[thin dirge]

Since I feel this was indicated in the intro

[lofty rover]

How high they held the elemental light

And what they did with it

That picture screams red flag to me

[thin dirge]

Hmm.. I feel TGC really needs to drop more lore hints

I dont care if its as vague as Prophecy

[lofty rover]

Yep

[thin dirge]

TGC was willing to drop a lot of hints of Sky's origins, but there's still little info about what happened to the Prince and the Kingdom's end

[lofty rover]

Hmm I think that's the whole think your own end thing they are going with

[thin dirge]

True

But more hints at least

[lofty rover]

Yeah

Also, today I saw the eden mountain from a ig oob spot?

[thin dirge]

Though, something I realized is probably not to look at things at face value

TGC likes putting things there to evoke an emotion or vibe of the area

[lofty rover]

It's as if it is attracting things to it, dark matter

[thin dirge]

Uhhh... Technically speaking, dark matter drive things apart.

Its the opposite of gravity

[lofty rover]

Yeah lol Ik but I meant dark as in colour

[thin dirge]

Hmm, yeah

[lofty rover]

Camera angle 2

Angle two interests me cause it seems that the dark things are the remainder of the orignal peak

There is light below the castle as well but it concentrates into a beam as it passes

[jovial wolf]

I remember that there is also a big cloud above the castle but when we orbit it’s not here anymore

[lofty rover]

Also there is something lighter at the point of mountain end

Not castle end, mountain top

[thin dirge]

WOAH, that shot looks sooo amazing, perfect for Sky's logo or something

I wanna draw it-

[lofty rover]

Ye :3

[icy spruce]

ngl but ye

it looks like some official Sky

thing

[thin dirge]

Did you post it in #screenshots-and-videos?

[lofty rover]

I have a thing for taking either cursed or aesthetic pictures

Na not yet

[thin dirge]

Do it

[lofty rover]

I don't know how to spoiler so

[thin dirge]

Dont think its a spoiler tho?

[livid valley]

nah its not a spoiler

[lofty rover]

I get scared of putting anything Eden related lol

Kay imma post

[livid valley]

bruh that mountain can be viewed almost everywhere no cap

[icy spruce]

true

[lofty rover]

Ye also it's not an oob area

So should work

[pseudo heart]

But for future reference

!picspoiler

[pastel brook]

To spoiler-tag a picture: Rename the file to begin with "SPOILER_"; or (desktop only), click the "Mark as spoiler" box when you upload it.
To rename on iOS: export picture to the Files app 📁 → rename the file ✍️ → share to Discord

[pseudo heart]

:O it's an old Light Awaits icon

[lofty rover]

Ahh. Thank you :3

Tbh most of the times I open discord and forget to post the many pics I take cause I open lore chat lol

[icy spruce]

I

I

I dunno what to say, but that's very wholesome

[livid valley]

Hmm

[pseudo heart]

Hi Meow

[frozen pivot]

yes

[icy spruce]

chat got krilled

sadge

[lofty rover]

L o r e

[icy spruce]

no, stay dead

good for business

[graceful osprey]

I always felt that the ascension beam has always existed

[graceful osprey]

and I think that the diamond there is a different one

the vault one maybe?

[lofty rover]

So you feel it was replaced?

So what do you feel was there before.. like nothing or something?

[boreal nebula]

...mmm isn't that antimatter? Because if an atom of matter meets an atom of antimatter both disrupt their particles?

I was curious about a shared behaviour we see on Krills and Mantas alike

They both sometimes pass inside solid rocks/ground . Specifically we see the first krill emerge in GW emerging from the ground in distance and mantas can pass through bells shrines and hills in Prairie village (when we summoned them) but also when a manta fly in forest or we get krilled

SO, is it a deliberately put as a features of these species or is it just a game mechanics?

[icy spruce]

it's either lore

or gmae mechs

(hopefully lore)

idk

most likely lore

[boreal nebula]

But if it were lore.. why is the whale crashing the tower during our Eden Castle flight?

[icy spruce]

prolly cause it's a different species?

[thin dirge]

Oh wait, I think I got it mixed up. Dark matter is gravity, I got mixed up with dark energy, which does the opposite of gravity, pushing stuff away...

I think the antimatter you're referring to is more like the opposite of matter and atoms (what everything is made of).

[boreal nebula]

Ok, thanks for the info

[raw moth]

I think the krill emerging from the ground is lore, but them passing through solid objects is just game mechanics

Apparently beta krills could actually break objects?

[boreal nebula]

👀

is that true?

No, I don't want to know (it's beta after all, this is not the correct place to chat about it)

[icy spruce]

I mean

if it's Sky Awaits beta

that's allowed

if it's current beta

no

just no

but pretty sure they're talking about Sky Awaits one

[true grove]

Yes, light awaits krills had a sound effect of breaking something whenever they attacked

[boreal nebula]

B R U T A L . . .

[empty nest]

who's alef

[pastel brook]

@empty nest who dat?

[empty nest]

bruh

[icy spruce]

concept name of Prince

[empty nest]

ooohh

[mint widget]

me

[icy spruce]

no

[mint widget]

aw manw

[icy spruce]

L

[lofty rover]

I watched a krill murder a li'l white manta

[icy spruce]

cool

[lofty rover]

the trauma

[icy spruce]

sadge

anyways

[true grove]

Alef is noone we should keep this info confidential

[pastel brook]

even though i'm a moth with a vast amount of knowledge, these names have eluded my grasp

[true grove]

Yes skybot i don't know either

[slate saffron]

Alef

[pastel brook]

even though i'm a moth with a vast amount of knowledge, these names have eluded my grasp

[slate saffron]

Resh

[pastel brook]

even though i'm a moth with a vast amount of knowledge, these names have eluded my grasp

[slate saffron]

Skybot

[willow shoal]

Bot, so your power is on?

[marble stratus]

I wonder if wasteland was once beautiful and full of life

[true grove]

there's one theory about wasteland being as lively as prairie before storm

Maybe it was called golden prairie

[lone hull]

eheh

[icy spruce]

Actually

Valley and GW were once one realm

Instead of golden prairie

It was Golden Valley

[quasi walrus]

people told me to come here so..
why's the dismiss emote called dismiss? like it doesn't rly look like it's dismissing anything

[uneven stag]

Sky kids are alien gems confirmed! /Jk

[shut junco]

i MEAN

i'm not against them being aliens.... and being made of light.........

skykids are space lesbians confirmed

[boreal nebula]

I have alittle piece of information that maybe a prove of krills being defencive machine gone wrong

By chance, I random got in contact with a krill nose in Eden (not by getting hint during a krilling) and I instantly lost all light

But I didn't lose any WL

So it basically acted as if I touched a redstone too close

[hushed steeple]

shawty are you just saying hebrew letters

[boreal nebula]

Random idea here: could it be that the krill round nose🔴(or eye, if like) is simply a carved stone place as the neural cell of the krill

With built-in sensorial properties of light absortion

?

Now that I put my thoughts into words, we even know that there are some crystals (on stoned sky kids 1.x versions ) with the same blue tone of the seeking/passive krill routine

Dalef

Alef

[pastel brook]

@boreal nebula who?

[boreal nebula]

Ayin

Resh

[pastel brook]

even though i'm a moth with a vast amount of knowledge, these names have eluded my grasp

[mint widget]

LOL

[boreal nebula]

S...ooo.. bot reacts only to Prince/King's (old) names

Petit Prince

[mint widget]

🙁

[boreal nebula]

Little Prince

[hushed glen]

Daleth

[pastel brook]

even though i'm a moth with a vast amount of knowledge, these names have eluded my grasp

[hushed glen]

Ok

[boreal nebula]

Ooh, so I typed wrong the name

[mint widget]

skybot when the

[boreal nebula]

Samekh

[pastel brook]

wait, who are we talking about, @boreal nebula?

[boreal nebula]

Twins, skybot, I am talking about Dora and Kakashi

[graceful osprey]

i think the eden diamond was meant to replace the vault ine, but instead the idea was too ambitious and became the fall of the kingdom

[stark quarry]

Who is resh?

[pastel brook]

sorry, never heard of them, @stark quarry

[shut junco]

#lore-discussion-spoilers message

for the sake of baby loremoths no elder concept names that aren't in the game pweaase

it feels like being gatekept

[mint widget]

ok

[harsh pecan]

I always think of random lore questions but find the answers before being able to ask

[pseudo heart]

The earth trial

It wasn't like that before

I think it was far from it

Look

There's grass in the statue

I'm sure it wasn't a texture error,, none of the other statues had it I kidnapped a poor friend to glitch with me

[lucid lodge]

Theory dump time: So I think the kingdom of sky used to be filled with light (obviously), but someone (like the prince) or some people (elders maybe?) got greedy and the kingdoms started exploiting the light and taking it away from nature. They tried to put all the light together and make themselves the most powerful object ever (the eye of eden) but it went horribly wrong and nature was destroyed since all the light was taken and put into the eye. Then the Light (whatever entity the rebirth place is) got angry and cursed the kingdom for ruining the land. So now everyone died or turned to stone and became spirits. Then, you, little light child, comes along and your purpose is to make amends between the cursed kingdom and the Light. The fallen people (spirits) help you along the way, and when you get to eden you free the spirits and finally return light to the world. That is why the temples are destroyed on the trip to the Light, because that symbolizes the evil ways being destroyed at last. Sorry that was so long..

[pseudo heart]

Ah yes..

That's the common theory

Disconnection from the Megabird (Sky's deity)

Due to the growing diamond technology

[hushed steeple]

Thinkin of it starchildren and mantas who fly in the sky and make whale noises is a common dealie. Like in fiction in general.

[shut junco]

ye all art is inspired

[hushed steeple]

Even then sky is pretty different from other whimsy dimsy medias with its specific mix. And the Elders I guess. They are characters.

Kinda.

[shut junco]

well, in 10 years it will seem uninspired in comparison to new media

that's the cycle

so i had a lore question: Did the ancestor spirits know the skykids would be coming?

[hushed glen]

Hmm

[hushed steeple]

I think so. Ayi-uh Prairie pin mentions a prediction of the children

[hushed glen]

Yeah

[hushed steeple]

And personally, im too fond of the idea of 7 surly adults leaning they will be the soul caretakers for 10,0000+ kids

[shut junco]

I ask this for a particular reason. At first I thought the spirits whose memories we follow were just magical ghost stuff. But when you look at it closer, activating a memory leaves behind a black orb that shines red once and produces static noise... aka this is technology. Like those memories were left there on purpose for us

[hushed steeple]

I thought it was crispy sizzle noise

[shut junco]

to me it sounds like broadcast static

[daring dawn]

I wouldn’t be surprised if there were factions of ancestors who predicted their own demise based on the way things were going — that ultimately lead to their destruction

[hushed steeple]

Like how the plants do. But also memories can be stored in cubes so.

Thats holograms basically.

[shut junco]

that is what i'm saying

that means those things didn't end up here randomly, the spirits planted their memories behind, and i can't think of any other reason to do that other than if you already knew your civilization were doomed

[hushed glen]

I think we're basically purifying them by burning the darkness they had by reliving them after

[hushed steeple]

Yeah but I don’t think the spirit memories are created as a technology. I think they are trapped spirits who get crusted over in corruption and cant move on

[shut junco]

why are they blue

[hushed steeple]

Souls are blue

[daring dawn]

I mean, you eventually find their body and “free” their trapped spirit

[hushed steeple]

When they break out of the poor skykids too. Blue.

[hushed glen]

Yep

[daring dawn]

I suspect the memories are more mystical in nature

[hushed glen]

One of Sky's main colors

[daring dawn]

Rather than scientific

[hushed glen]

Agreed

[shut junco]

wdym

[hushed steeple]

The glowing wispy thing you become after your body crumbles to dust in Eden.

[hushed glen]

When you die in eden

[shut junco]

oh right

[hushed glen]

You turn into a blue orb thing, that's your soul

And then you ascend

[daring dawn]

Well, hear me out

Skykids are an amalgamation between the ancestors and light creatures

My suspicion during the death sequence is that the blue light is the ancestor half

[hushed steeple]

Thats concept art approved

[daring dawn]

And you hug and combine with your light self

To me the blue represents ancestor things

[hushed steeple]

I like to think they are amalgamations of everything that came before: Elders, Ancestors, and light creatures.

[daring dawn]

Whereas light is always golden

[shut junco]

aren't elders ancestors

[daring dawn]

Elders and ancestors are the same.

[hushed steeple]

I consider Elders the big giant Monochrome fellas and Ancestors as the normal spirits

[shut junco]

yea but they're still the same species and people

imo

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I guess they are all star people

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Yes, they are the same species

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But spirits age, or used to age

Henlo, new to the getting into the deep lore, but I've played through the game several times by now!

[harsh pecan]

Whats the topic?

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Elders do not. Where never children

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hi! welcome!

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Hii

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where does that come from?

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How were the elders never children?

[harsh pecan]

It says somewhere

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If I may bring something up, since I recently started doing the Prophecy quests...

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The canon lore document. If you want I can send it to ya. Very tasty stuff.

[daring dawn]

I’d need something to back that up, that the elders sprung up from nowhere

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yis :3

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Can I have it?

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(Nothing is canon, it’s purposely loose ended)

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https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit

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May I bring up that I love that gender doesn't really exist in Sky?

[daring dawn]

Yeah! I like it too. Dress how you feel, boo.

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Like, it all seems to be a matter of choice and interpretation.

Skykids can choose who/what they want to be, the Elders' and Spirits have no canon genders...

Like..it's cool!

Everyone gets to say however they see em! No one wrong!

There is one thing that seems to be static in the fanbase that I kinda love?
And it's that the Valley Elders seem to share one braincell between them, and while I don't have a twin, that's honestly realistic to what it's like having a sibling.

[daring dawn]

I still can’t see where it says the elders sprung up out of nowhere. The ancestors/elders were never skykids, we know that much, but is there some sort of special reference to the elders at eden specifically?

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If the Prophecy murals are anything to go by, it makes sense that the Elders were "young beings" at one point. Even if they weren't strictly "children".

Dang I gotta re-read it too

Ok it just says they where elders from the beginning, and don’t know if age or gender exist for them

I guess an “elder” could just be described as someone in charge rather than older.

Yeah, it kind of seems that way.

Elder being a title, rather than a being.

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That was my interpretation as well

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And well....I also kinda...think there used to be a child elder 👀

I mean, for example, the statues in front of the Valley Temple don't look anything like the twins.

It could just be that they were the newest Elders when crap went sideways.

Imagine the stress of your statues being unrealistically buff

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but the lore document says "the elders know each other"

[daring dawn]

Probably leaders in their own right. Valley and Wasteland seem to have “champions” as elders.

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before they fell i mean

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Well, yeah. That makes sense.

Yeah they homies.

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so that would mean they aren't new elders

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The leaders of the same civilization likely know each other on some level.

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i'm saying they knew each other before establishing civilizations

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I like to think the twins split during their creation, and where supposed to be 1 elder

Which is why they do the silly thing where they line up to look like 1 person sometimes

That...makes sense.

And are missing an eye and arm

God, now I'm having Xenosaga vibes, what the heck?

I onlyknow xenoblade my lore is inadequate

There's two characters who were born as conjoined twins, despite originally being meant to be one person.

When they split, the complete power they were supposed to have was also split in half. One twin taking each half of that power.

I'm not saying who, since I don't want to spoil anything.

But it kind of reminds me of that.

No kidding that fits

So, they could have been one person who was meant to have that role, but something happened and they split, each having traits unique to themselves, but being damaged as a result of that split.

As much as I like the "battle scar" headcanon of how they have prosthetic arms.(getting them after whatever calamity had befallen the kingdom)

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It’s a cool theory, but a bit of a stretch. I was always reminded of sibling rivalry.

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If its Xenosomething lore im sure their important role was a bit more than being the best most unrivaled athlete ever

Yeah, the twins I was thinking about have...weirder lore around them....

Maybe the Megabird foresaw that elder being a sports elder and said “a sport without equal rivals is no fun!” At the last second

Yeah! That'd honestly be a little funny, and makes sense!

There is one thing that I noticed, though, when a friend kinda dragged me haphazardly through Wasteland today

legit im surprised how we didn't get krilled with how many close calls we had...

I need to take pics next time I'm there, but during the beginning of the second segment, where we're introduced to the Dark Dragons...

The building looks like a collapsed version of the Forest Temple, or at least a similar structure.

The same ceiling mechanism is crumbled on the ground, and there's even similar...well, I guess the closest word would be 'generators' off to the side, long deactivated.

Oh yes! Its theorized they where both the realms greatly involved with power diamond production!

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someone else said the same thing recently, it's believed that it's because both are factories

yea what kamil says

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Yeah, I got that vibe, too

Especially with the pipes running through the last segment.

Though, the Forest feels....a little more "Environmentally friendly"?

Maybe wasteland made a lot more if we can see even a few spilled diamonds in sanctuary mess stuff up and give money

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ummm they were destroying the forest and producing cave-ins

idk that they were concerned about the well-being of the planet in their quest for power, even in hidden forest

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And squishin manta into jelly

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mcscuse me?

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Oh... I might have missed some of that stuff, then.

Mmm time for explaining the manta juicer

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why do i miss all the crazy stuff

yep

ive heard of it once before

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I'm sorry, I'm Autistic. Some stuff flies right over my head sometimes when it's not explained well...

So in concept arts, mantas are in cages, and the materials in the cages get turned into diamonds. “Organic material” gets used for diamond creation

And I knew about one of the cave ins, but I honestly thought it was an accident...

Ooooh

um....

So how do we know this is still true in the current game?

Two reasons:

1. When you finish Tet-uhh Forest’s cutscene, Mantas fly in through the windows

2. In an early early build of the game, there was a mission to free mantas from cages, thats supposedly what the clock on the side of the stairs to forest temple is for.

sorry was that too much?

[summer harbor]

Harsh truth

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isn't there a clock that indicates when the rainbow shows up

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Manta squish. Get some today.

Mmhm. I have no idea how to read the clocks though since whenever I look at them the dots are always alined.

Also one in prairie for the mushroom circle I think? I still have not found out how to activate the invisible boat.....

When the funky flying game is actually extremely dark...

Also....WHO THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA TO MAKE THE CHILDREN KNEEL UNDER THE MANTA SQUASHER?

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lmao

they're all about sacrifice

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Maybe Forest Elder is bad with kids?

Although in Light Awaits cutscenes she just used the diamond to open the door