lore-discussion-spoilers

[pseudo heart]

We overthink everything

[cosmic willow]

how the moon waxes and wanes yk

[pseudo heart]

Ye

Tho

Someone has pointed out an odd detail

[cosmic willow]

?

[pseudo heart]

Hold up

ALRIGHT

AFTER DIGGING

We do have a full moon

In the first area of GW

From Seraph

Which was also once crescent (also from Seraph)

Damn,, reading through the past convos... Missing the old lore chat very much

[cosmic willow]

so people do fly up to check the cyclone

[lofty rover]

Wait why was that the detail ya'll picked

Oh wait I brought it upon myself

Overthink that shiny thing I saw

[cosmic willow]

sky is filled with unspecified shinies

that’s why moths love it

[lofty rover]

....

I came for answers 😦

Gimme answers wise lore chat

I mean I thought it would have something to do with the ark season lore or something

[cosmic willow]

i don’t know anything about the ark season lore but it is about light orbs

[lofty rover]

InTeReSTiNg

[icy spruce]

What’s le topic

Oh good

Less than one min late

[lofty rover]

Temme wise host

What's the shiny light

[proud fable]

Chat krilled

[pastel brook]

Fineeee, gather around the bonfire, I'm going to play a lullaby for you!

[proud fable]

thanks

[lofty rover]

Ye skybot, make me feel better

Yet again, Resh being ignored by skybot

[pastel brook]

@lofty rover who dat?

[cosmic willow]

skybot how could you

[lofty rover]

My heart's been broken and patched again so much that it's the Eden diamond now

[true grove]

[iron cradle]

Which link I can find the lore of base story, links at the pins are a little confusing

[harsh pecan]

The lore is vague but here: https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit

[cosmic willow]

oh and pro tip

elder concept names trigger skybot so some of us use their realm as a substitute

[iron cradle]

I only read a small part of the lore and now I want a story game based on events before sky cotl. This game's lore is awesome and the communityis creative.

[cosmic willow]

sky:ancestors of the light

also welcome to the lore rabbit hole

[iron cradle]

Guess I will fall to deep soon

[harsh pecan]

Same

[karmic sequoia]

Why i couldn't visit the channels given in the docs

[harsh pecan]

Wdym

[iron cradle]

click the link and also click the one that appears (it is maybe different for others but mine is like this)

[karmic sequoia]

I know but when i click the link it asks to open discord app and then app opens and nothing happens

[iron cradle]

hmm it opens in browser for me sorry I don't know hot to solve

[karmic sequoia]

Ok thanks i am the dumb one

https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/10ZWJRGiJSrIXgDvJ4pST61moZbVB_hBExUjOaF-pmOE/mobilebasic

[icy spruce]

Aaaaaaaaaaaa

Chat got krilled

For 1 hour

Poggers

[willow pumice]

Thats sad

Nearly 2 hours without lore

[harsh pecan]

Ikr

Ive been waiting here because I cant start a conversation myself

So who wants to talk about lore

Feels like 90% of the lore chat is asleep

[pastel brook]

Hey @harsh pecan, did you get enough sneep snorp today?

[harsh pecan]

Idk, did you?

[cosmic willow]

guess who just successfully found the nice crabs

[harsh pecan]

claps

[boreal nebula]

Not sure if anybody have already pointed it out. I think the Assembly symbol is a bonfire of the scouts

[harsh pecan]

Looks like it

[cosmic willow]

could be

wait it’s a stylised version of the scout symbol

[harsh pecan]

I knew it looked like a fleur-de-lis!

[boreal nebula]

I am still not sure if the lowest symbol in this map represent of this little roof or the Belongings fireplace

[cosmic willow]

i didn’t actually make the connection until i saw a scouts clubhouse on the bus one day and it just hit

[boreal nebula]

I vaguely knew it, but thanks for refreshing my memory

[true grove]

That actually refers to forest brook where the meditation quest happens. That's where the second tree house is

[bitter shale]

So uh

Basically i just re-read The Little Prince again

The Aviator meet the little prince in the middle of desert, but why the little prince was in the desert?

We know that the aviator is on the desert because his plane crashed

The Prince actually was in the desert because he is trying to go back to the place where he fell

[harsh pecan]

Also..

[bitter shale]

When he meet the aviator, its actually almost one year since he fell to the earth

[bitter shale]

Where did you find that btw

[harsh pecan]

https://www.sparknotes.com/lit/littleprince/symbols/

[bitter shale]

And at the end of the book, ||the little prince does managed to go back to his planet, but he need to be biten by a poisonous snake before he could go back||

This kinda remind me of rebirth somehow lmao-

Dont mind me rambling

[brave meteor]

Yeah that’s definitely interesting

[bitter shale]

Your pfp-

[brave meteor]

Yeah?

What of it fool

[bitter shale]

I was gonna compliment it lol

But im at loss of words so

😳👌

Anyway

[brave meteor]

;)

[true grove]

[brave meteor]

Anyway

I’m super excited for the new season

[bitter shale]

This part, exactly

'i shall look as if i were dead; and that will not be true...'
'i cannot carry this body with me. It is too heavy,'
'but it will be like an old abandoned shell. There is nothing sad about old shell...'

Basically its like how we skykid have to died first before we could 'ascend'-

Our body actually got destroyed in eden, and only our soul could carry on

[hushed glen]

Then our soul ascends and we get reborn?

[bitter shale]

And when we got rebirthed... Tbh idk with this part, do we actually acquire a new body after we fell from orbit? Or do we fell with new body already acquired?

[lofty rover]

It's basically same body

[hushed glen]

Yeah same body

[lofty rover]

Kinda like it took a nap or a shower

[bitter shale]

No like do we fell with our body or do we get our body after we reach home?

This is confusing lol

[lofty rover]

Our body disintegrates

[bitter shale]

Oh yea like what you said, resh

[pastel brook]

@bitter shale who dat?

[bitter shale]

I prefer that ngl

[bitter shale]

SHUT

Anyway

[lofty rover]

And then when the dark and light combine

We get a glowy bod

The light frames our new body

Which is basically like our old body

But like the Prince could not take his shell, we couldn't either

To ascend we have to leave it behind

Since essentially we are made of earthen Potts (lol just what I call skid body)

The mould is remade to match the one we lost

Think of it as getting an exact same model of phone in replacement of the last. Once you transfer data it's practically same but newer

[bitter shale]

Oooo

[lofty rover]

Plus we get buffs due to the deeds

So it's actually os upgrade free

[bitter shale]

But then our body just... Shattered on eden. How does our body rearranged again at home?

[lofty rover]

It's not the same

It's like the same but the one that shattered

We don't get our body back.

That's what I feel

[bitter shale]

So it would like that we got some body replacement stock somewhere lol

[lofty rover]

Ofc it can be that since we have no proof

We are children of light

We exhausted all of it in Eden

And we disintegrated

Then we were given light back

So we... reintegrated?

Since the soul or whatever that is, is the same

Had it been reincarnation, the body would have been different.

But it's rebirth

Since we don't have any proof we can't say if it's the exact same body or like it's reformed to be the exact same one

[bitter shale]

Oooh reintegrated

[lofty rover]

But yeah more or less

Hmm think of it as the dna remained same so the body it forms when given light remains same

Our body is basically the expression of our soul

[bitter shale]

bald and h o n k

[lofty rover]

That's just me trying to justify rebirth tbh who knows how it actually works lol

[true grove]

Isle is a huge pancake

[bitter shale]

Ngl it looks like a stingray lol

Not a manta, more like stingray

[lofty rover]

Where in the sky world is that

[bitter shale]

Isle

[true grove]

Isle👁️👄👁️

Just fly high using clouds

[lofty rover]

Ahhh

Got it

[tender trail]

@slate saffron sure thing, what are your questions?

[true grove]

👁️👄👄👁️

What

[lofty rover]

You still have two mouths

[true grove]

Ik

I have two mouths irl

[lofty rover]

.....

[boreal nebula]

By the size of the map I think it looks farther than that meditation spot
But it can be, after all even the QG Scout Treehouse is out of the map

[slate saffron]

Well, in the murals on the Forgotten Ark it shows the krill pushing into the GW from another location upon the arrival (or atleast alongside) the storm and driving away/hunting down the creatures of light that once inhabited it rather than them being born from the bones of the dead upon it's contact with the pollution!

And the mural of the GW elder triumphing over the child of prophecy got replaced with a mural of some jellyfish

So uhhhhhhhhhhh
explain or die

[true grove]

it's a map made by kids, don't go by lengths and sizes

[slate saffron]

[rustic glen]

This bugs me so much akdnsnne

[slate saffron]

The king is a jellyfish confirmed

[true grove]

The mural in scantuary?
It's a joke by devs

[slate saffron]

Also that

[boreal nebula]

Well yeah, kids miss many of this medication like roofs

[true grove]

What is your question i don't understand from the explanation

[lofty rover]

confusion is I

[true grove]

yes

[tender trail]

I see. With the part about the storm, I’ll have to take another look at the murals, the fact that there’s a very ancient and “forgotten” ark alongside a much more modern ship in the same zone has always been strange to me. I didn’t know that the mural got replaced, I will have to look into that. Basically, I think there’s enough evidence to say that there was some kind of battle over the entrance to vault between a naturalist and tech faction, and that pollution was being dumped int wasteland, but the chronology likely still needs tinkering with

[slate saffron]

W o r d s

[tender trail]

Also, here’s an overhead shot of battlefield that I took and color-corrected a little while back, not sure if it will relate to anything, but someone might end up finding it useful

[brave meteor]

So those jacks looking things

Are those barriers or are they some kind of weapon

[tender trail]

https://images.app.goo.gl/eUYasNntrQyhoJvr9
They seem to be palisades

[brave meteor]

Thank you! Couldn’t remember the name

[tender trail]

The thing I find most confounding in the chronology is when exactly the storm started and why. Did it cause the kingdom to be abandoned, or did the people have to live with it? Was there always a storm around the mountain, or did it originate because of whatever happened in eden?

[lofty rover]

I think the people saw the storm and died out with it

Something did happen to stop it eventually

As to the whys and how that all upto imagination

[twin horizon]

This isn't exactly lore but what's the significance of star field memorial? It's not in the actual game so I'm not sure why it has a name lol-

[fringe cloak]

hi

[brave meteor]

Might’ve been built after the war somehow? Maybe it’s a memorial to those who were lost. It would make sense thematically too given that it’s night/twilight in the area

[leaden depot]

Are the sky children moths?

[brave meteor]

Or it could have been for the people who died out in the storm, if it was the storm that wiped the kingdom

[brave meteor]

Not literally?

I mean I’m pretty sure they’re based largely on candlesticks

[leaden depot]

I mean they start out brown and are always searching for the lights

I kinda thought they were little candle moth kids

[brave meteor]

That’s a good analogy but I think it’s coincidental

[leaden depot]

Ah I see

[brave meteor]

Given the theme of fire and candles in general, as well as their off white, smooth clothing and white hair, the candle idea fits a bit better

[leaden depot]

Mm tru

They kinda look like little puppets with light bodies trapped inside

Or at least to me they look like puppets

[brave meteor]

Kinda

Nah I see what you mean

I mean in a sense you do play as a sort of vessel

You carry the light with you

So maybe not a puppet, but definitely something that isn’t exactly complete at first

[leaden depot]

Yup and when you die the light goes out

[brave meteor]

Well actually your light does go out before you die

But you die soon after

[leaden depot]

I noticed some of the ancestors don’t have capes does that perhaps mean that some of them are humans and others are what would eventually be the light kids?

[brave meteor]

Idk

Too vague, but I don’t think they’re supposed to be human exactly

[leaden depot]

It’s interesting that some aren’t actually shown in memories to fly

They could be cape less pre evolutions

[brave meteor]

Nah cause the girl in the season of dreams earns her cape, it’s given to her

[leaden depot]

In the first area you get light, but I maybe the ancestors don’t

[leaden depot]

Yea very few actually fly

And that also is interesting to point out that capes are earnt

[brave meteor]

I think it’s more a status thing, or maybe it’s just fashionable (and functional)

Who knows lol

[leaden depot]

Yea the victory pose ancestors definitely needs their cape to be fashionable

The super man pose is just better with capes

[brave meteor]

Ye

I’m really hoping to get some lore in the upcoming season

[leaden depot]

Ikr

[brave meteor]

Especially given that it focuses on a prince and is connected to the vault

[leaden depot]

Ooh vault is next

Yessss

[brave meteor]

Yeah

[leaden depot]

Wait do you think we’ll get an eden realm

[brave meteor]

No

[leaden depot]

Aww

I would love a heaven hell realm

[brave meteor]

It’s possible but I feel like it’s super unlikely

[leaden depot]

Imagine the lore

Explaining reincarnation

[brave meteor]

So do you know about the early plans for the king and prince for sky?

[leaden depot]

No not yet

[brave meteor]

Ah

Well definitely look into it

[leaden depot]

Will do

Imma head out I have som stuff to do

[brave meteor]

Cause my reaction when I saw that the next season has to do with a prince was pure excitement

Ah see ya

[bitter shale]

y e s

more loresss

[brave meteor]

My jaw literally dropped lol

I’m a sucker for lore

I hoard worldbuilding like a möth hoards friends

My brain is filled with it

[left pebble]

rainbow cape

wow

[brave meteor]

Yisssss

I want one so bad

[left pebble]

tgc really want to bankrupt sky kids

[brave meteor]

Yeah

[left pebble]

yea

[brave meteor]

But they can take my money

[left pebble]

yea

https://tenor.com/view/money-dollars-cash-rich-shut-up-and-take-my-money-gif-3555042

[hushed steeple]

do skykids breathe? they wear stone masks that obstruct noses

[fringe cloak]

hi

[hushed steeple]

i keep seeing you around the channels bro

[fringe cloak]

@hushed steeple …

[mint widget]

???????

[hushed glen]

Idk man

[mint widget]

true

[fringe cloak]

Hi

[mint widget]

ummm

ok

[fringe cloak]

oh

):

Okay

[true grove]

What

[left pebble]

Do sky kids breath

good question

if they don't

we don;t know

what is the body structor of a sky kid

[hushed glen]

I think they do

[left pebble]

how do they reperduce or do they even reproduce

they can't

[simple eagle]

I don't even think skykids have organs to begin with
Or mouths

[hushed glen]

There's literally a breathing animation

[left pebble]

do they have a circurltury system

[simple eagle]

They have eyes tho so thats neat

[left pebble]

if so then their bloodis probably red

[hushed steeple]

they originate from the light, they dont multiply themselves on their own

[left pebble]

MHM

[hushed glen]

Eyes, mouths, noses, ears, they're humanoid for sure

[simple eagle]

Theyre made of light probably

[left pebble]

how is a moth created

a star dropping from the skyt

!? little prince lore

[simple eagle]

Megabird?? ?? Mayhaps

[hushed steeple]

yea, shown in the starting cinematic

[hushed glen]

I swear I need to slap my theories down, probably in my oc storage server

[left pebble]

so we are thelost stars

or that refers to the elders

[simple eagle]

Yeah i think so

The elders i mean

[left pebble]

intresting

in the first map I fogot the name

one of the elders

[hushed steeple]

to elders, we are the same thing as the traveler from journey, disposable material sort of, serving greater purpose

[simple eagle]

Isle?

[left pebble]

yea

one of the stories of the elder

the probably

sky kids are the fallen light

[simple eagle]

OHh yeah

[left pebble]

and in the eden animation

the light kid +the stone kid

equals us

[hushed glen]

Apparently Voyager didn't want to see isle elder, and stargazer found a skykid or something similar

Candlemaker was just with his family

[simple eagle]

Many interpretations on dat specific cutcene but some mentions that that kid may be the first sky kid or alef/resh

[pastel brook]

wait, who are we talking about, @simple eagle?

[simple eagle]

[hushed glen]

Prince has a star head thing, or it's probably just a huge mask

[left pebble]

do Jenova have discord

[true grove]

Skybot reacts to old concept names. So don't use them because it may confuse new people

[left pebble]

lmao

[hushed glen]

Said to be the first skykid or ancestor of skykids

[simple eagle]

Oh cool
The lore is pretty vague so its usually fine to interpret whatever ya want.

[hushed glen]

Any interpretation is valid

[simple eagle]

Yeap!!

[hushed glen]

Other than shipping the valley twins.... they're canonically twins-

[left pebble]

daleth

[pastel brook]

wait, who are we talking about, @left pebble?

[left pebble]

e

[simple eagle]

Daleth :)

[pastel brook]

@simple eagle who dat?

[left pebble]

aresky kids black!?

gosh im gettingbanned

[true grove]

Nope, skykids have no gender and race

[left pebble]

ok

[hushed glen]

Their skin is just very dark

[true grove]

Do they have skin 👀

[slate saffron]

I'm pretty sure they're literally just rock

they have no skin

they have no flesh

THEY HAVE NO SOUL-

[true grove]

All they know is burn everything

[bitter shale]

objection, they do have soul-

[bitter shale]

agreed with this ngl

[left pebble]

imangine speedrunning sky

[true grove]

Speedruns exist

Of sky

I've never tried it tho

[left pebble]

what counts as aspeedrun

collecting all of the elders and light?

or finishing all the mapand eden

or get to 100 candles

[graceful osprey]

it depends what type

for example, ng+ is that after you have fonished the game once, you can play the game again (from isle portal to rebirth)

[true grove]

Most popular kind of speedrun i've heard of is how fast you can go through all realms

[real tendon]

how are y'all lore people doing with the little prince trailer

[graceful osprey]

altho it probably is the moon, it could be megabird (the glowing ball thingy)

[true grove]

Go to the chat that day, it was a mess

[real tendon]

what day was it revealed again?

[true grove]

For me it was 1 may

[real tendon]

ok so apparently everyone hates it which sucks because I was excited

[brave meteor]

Sorry about this old reply, but what does this mean

Like if you have something in your name regarding an unused concept, the bot activates??

[true grove]

The post by seraph in pins explains it well. Basically there were elder names in concepts very early in development but they were scrapped not after long. Now they only appear in certain concepts. Since they were only mentioned briefly not many people know that there are elder names so it may confuse people that are new. Now elders don't have name you can refer them by realm name + elder
For eg forest elder

[brave meteor]

Ah ok

Sorry, I’m dumb lol

[true grove]

That's why those words trigger the bot so people won't use them

Like

Alef

[pastel brook]

wait, who are we talking about, @true grove?

[plain fern]

What if someone’s name is the M word and someone tries to refer to them

[granite coyote]

Hi

[brave meteor]

Ah ok

[lofty rover]

It's floating in the middle not in the sky.. like the ship level.

[lofty rover]

There is someone named that actually. And as you can see, someone named the other one too.

Also whoever was comparing sky anatomy to human... don't. Lol

Reach the cursed camera angle into your skid's head and see.. they are hollow

[plain fern]

I mean an actual person here, like if your name was the M word and I wanted to refer to you using your name without @, skybot wouldn’t like it

[lofty rover]

Yeah

Scroll up

Anyone who refers to me has to go through skybot triggers

[plain fern]

My point was just that it would be funny lmao

[lofty rover]

Oh people were entertained the moment I entered lore like a week or two ago

Also I think M person is an OG here (though sounds wrong saying their name like that lol)

Stick around if you'd like to be entertained :3

[plain fern]

I’ve been lurking for a long time, just waiting for something new lore related to finally drop it’s been a while so the chat is usually dead

[lofty rover]

Yeah. I like the comfort of a dead chat tbh

[pastel brook]

Calculating the needed amount of sneep snorp for #lore-discussion-spoilers...

[lofty rover]

See? We talk and he gets worried

[plain fern]

probably the most active member here

[lofty rover]

Lol I am the.. you know who

[plain fern]

He who must not be named

[lofty rover]

K imma sneep snorp.
Someone please let me know about the shiny thing.
Also why vault skeletons are headless :3

[woven crag]

Are the seven realms supposed to represent the seven stages of life :3

[simple eagle]

I think it represents the times of day like sunrise sunset rain etc

[true grove]

Yes they they do represent different stages of life

And time too

[simple eagle]

Yea

[true grove]

Eden is storm

[lapis notch]

Always has been 🔫

[boreal basin]

Hi, i'm lose for a few months, somebody can give me a short summary? O resume?

Sorry for my English is not the best

[left pebble]

you missed ***a l o t *** of things

[cold steppe]

just as a note, it's against the #rules to repost art that isn't yours even with credit

[left pebble]

I mean its lore related so dosn't count as art

does it?

I mean it probably does

[cold steppe]

What season was happening when you were here last? We can work on making a summary based on what you are (or aren't) familiar with

[cold steppe]

it's not really lore-related as the season hasn't begun yet (we haven't even gotten official art yet), and part of the reason the rule is there is because some artists don't want their art posted elsewhere by other people

[left pebble]

e

alright

[boreal basin]

I'mean, I don't follow u guys, y never story playing sky, I can't read the theories, I remember then u have a document with descriptions of megabird and other information, like elders names and season of prophecy theories too

[boreal basin]

Correction: stop playing sky*

[cold steppe]

ahhh I see

I thought you had stopped playing Sky for a few months

[boreal basin]

Haha, no never stop playing, is my scape from reality haha

If you have a season of assembly theories I will appreciate too

[cold steppe]

Here's the link by Hage Jiisama and Mochi of "canon" lore that was previously pinned (it was removed because the community started becoming somewhat divisive over what was or was not canon)
#lore-discussion-spoilers message

[boreal basin]

The link redirect me to this channel

[cold steppe]

should take you to the message that was pinned before

I linked to the discord message because there's a small blurb by hage explaining the document

The "lore moff" document by Bricky (though it's basically a summary of the pinned material)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit

[boreal basin]

Thank u for everything

[celest badger]

Eden is too scary

[modest thunder]

it's really late where i am but i started thinking about sky lore lmao-- i've always wondered what winged light actually represents: they are not spirits, so they are actual light children? who were they? why are they there? so many questions i should probably go catch zzzs

but in ||eden|| you give it to the other children, are they like souls????

[lapis notch]

You don't have to spoiler Eden, Office or Orbit in Lore chat

This chat is impervious to these spoilers

[modest thunder]

oh I wasn't that sure, better safe than sorry

[lapis notch]

It's okay!

This is the lore channel after all.

[tired vault]

SKY OPERATES ON COSMIC EGG THEORY

THERE IS ONLY ONE ELDER

(and they’re mine, get your own)

[icy spruce]

W hat

anyways

Welcome back to....CHAT GOT KRILLED! Sorry for the hiatus thingy, but anyways...out first contestant for the day is DELTA (aka, priest of the Holy Burrito). Who has a score of roughly 27 MINUTES! WOW, that’s all for chat got krilled and stay tuned for the next episode. Adieu!

[leaden depot]

Uhh is that a creative way of saying a burrito gave you the runs?

if so 27 mins of straight rear explosion sounds dehydrating

[torpid drift]

Kind of a random thought: What if the krill we see in the game aren't fully grown?

Thinking about the devestation we see in wasteland, it seems like either there were a lot more of them, or there were bigger threats

Or maybe the krill can just do a ton of damage on their own, idk. But it would be horrifying fun if there were bigger krill

[icy spruce]

oh ye

I remember someone saying that

and if that exists

well,

adios

[torpid drift]

RIP

Not enough winged light to tank that hit

[icy spruce]

what if they hit you

Elder krills

does that mean all ye WL gone

[torpid drift]

Oh no

You just lose instantly

[icy spruce]

but the good thing is

home trick exists

[torpid drift]

It still does?

[icy spruce]

ye?

the emote home trick

not the settings home trick

[torpid drift]

Ohhhhh

[rapid juniper]

Maybe you would lose one wing

[torpid drift]

Alrighty, that explains it

One whole wedge, just gone

[icy spruce]

ouch

[torpid drift]

That's horrifying, oof

[icy spruce]

but that's better

[torpid drift]

Yeah

More balanced

[rapid juniper]

I think it can happen in eden season or gw season

[icy spruce]

prolly GW

if it was Eden

[rapid juniper]

Ye

[icy spruce]

ye no

[torpid drift]

A GW season like that would be great imo

[icy spruce]

and terrifying for the moffs

[pseudo heart]

GW season and the entrance is at graveyard

[icy spruce]

mmmm

rip to the moffs

[lofty rover]

What is this horrific discussion

scared moff sounds

Do not take notes TGC

[icy spruce]

nonono

take notes

[lofty rover]

I shall remember this betrayal

[icy spruce]

'kay

[orchid jolt]

Eden krill work differently than most krill

[lofty rover]

Oh I heard the home trick doesn't work in Eden anymore

[orchid jolt]

They drain ur flame by being to close to them

[lofty rover]

O?

[icy spruce]

ye

GW krills yeets you

Eden krills is the same

[orchid jolt]

Like a shadow and krill hybrid

[icy spruce]

+light drained

[lofty rover]

I never got close to them so I don't really know much about them

[orchid jolt]

I remember home working

But

When they charge u

[lofty rover]

Yeah apparently they fixed it

[orchid jolt]

U get drained of flame

[lofty rover]

I read it on some server here

[orchid jolt]

Keeping wls tjo

[icy spruce]

wait it was a bug?

[orchid jolt]

I wonder why they have seperate code tho...

[lofty rover]

Yeah

[icy spruce]

oh

[lofty rover]

The home trick is a bug

[icy spruce]

ohhh

I thought you mean thw

'krill cant drain light when near'

home trick still works

just the emote

way

[orchid jolt]

Along with how the shadows at the start of fire trial dont die when u have the power up.

[icy spruce]

not settings

[orchid jolt]

Why have seperate code for them?

[lofty rover]

I never even tried settings lol

Cause it's king krill

[orchid jolt]

I know it's not lore, but im still curious lol

[lofty rover]

Well it is supposed to be more difficult

[icy spruce]

that ig

and in lore wise

uhh

[lofty rover]

Closer to source?

[icy spruce]

since Eden is like, the center ofall the destruction

uhhh

ye

[lofty rover]

Ye

[icy spruce]

dark is pretty stronk

[lofty rover]

Dark is the new black

[icy spruce]

yes

lojik 10000

[lofty rover]

IQ 1000000

[orchid jolt]

So, do u think that the statue in gw by the catapult is just a statue or a spirit's fossilized corpse?

[lofty rover]

Oh my people in lore love making it dark
not complaining

[orchid jolt]

Any connections to the 5 statues in eden before sacrifice?

[lofty rover]

I thought it was just a statue

It's weirdly still bronze

[orchid jolt]

Why the clean ones crumble?

[orchid jolt]

Bronze????

[lofty rover]

Its like a brownish colour right?

[orchid jolt]

The one kneeling before a bird statue that has a candle on it

[lofty rover]

Yeah isn't it brownish like bronze or something

[icy spruce]

I would say it's a statue imo

[lofty rover]

I may be wrong since I am busy keeping my emotes open most of gw

[orchid jolt]

It has eyes btw

And sleeves

[lofty rover]

I have never inspected it well since.. fear

[orchid jolt]

It looks more like a spirit statue from a spirit memory to me

[lofty rover]

Do you have a good pic?

[orchid jolt]

I just checked...

No

I got ones of all the ones in eden battlefield but not catapult...

[lofty rover]

I always wondered what that statue was

[icy spruce]

all the catapult pics in lore chat are cursed

[lofty rover]

It's just there

Has one candle that's all I know

[orchid jolt]

Ill get one pix

[lofty rover]

Ye

[icy spruce]

expedition time

[lofty rover]

Have fun. I've been postponing GW since ages

[icy spruce]

mission: take a picture of the catapult statue in Wasteland

[lofty rover]

What's the smoke covering the entirety of GW?

[icy spruce]

clouds?

[lofty rover]

They don't look like normal clouds

They cover the sky and just hover y'know

Like smog - cloud hybrid

[icy spruce]

maybe

but it recharges your light, so eh

[lofty rover]

Yeah cause it still is cloud

But it covers even the sky

[icy spruce]

ye

[lofty rover]

With only a couple gaps

It's as if it isolated the GW

I mean the two realms GW and Rainforest don't get sunshine

[icy spruce]

well, only a part

but ye

[lofty rover]

Ye

[icy spruce]

forest would make sense

since its raining

GW

hmm

[lofty rover]

Ye

[orchid jolt]

Am having trouble sending em

[icy spruce]

ohno

[lofty rover]

That was quick

[orchid jolt]

I was in gw when using return shrine

[lofty rover]

The realms are dark by the virtue of blocked sunshine

And hence dark creatures flourish

[icy spruce]

ye

'specially Eden

[lofty rover]

Eden is mother cloud

[icy spruce]

better than Megabirb I suppose

[lofty rover]

Quick q

The elemental lights

Where did they come from

Were they always here?

[icy spruce]

I would say alchemy (since someone pointed out that the symbols were similar to alchemy's symbol thingss)

or stars

[lofty rover]

So if they were alchemy, they must have predated the spirits

Since they did covet them

And weren't successful in getting their hands on them

Also, they have symbols of other normal earth like animals

But never have I seen them in any memory

Even masks are animal inspired

[icy spruce]

Mum, lore chat died again

[lofty rover]

insert meme
Flogging lore chat with a stick:
do something

[icy spruce]

L

anywa ys

I'm going on an expedition

any pictures ya need

for lore

[lofty rover]

The statue ig?

[icy spruce]

mkay

[lofty rover]

Anything you find that can revive lore

[icy spruce]

mk

[harsh pecan]

I feel like Wasteland (or whatever it was called back then) was the most King-dedicated realm, y’know with the statues and all.

[icy spruce]

ye

I mean

GW seems like uhh 2nd most populated

realm or smthng

(1st being Valley or Eden)

(see: seems)

[cosmic willow]

heard a theory that the king put many many statues there because GW was highly militarised and industrialised and could threaten their rule

basically actual king propaganda

[icy spruce]

Oooo

maybe

[cosmic willow]

king to gw:

[icy spruce]

so true

[cosmic willow]

valley also had quite a bit of diamond turrets

the social area of gw had similar architecture to valley

maybe those two were connected

[icy spruce]

inhales

ACCORDING TO CANON DO,,

anyways, you're correct

canonically

GW and Valley were once one realm

Golden Valley

[cosmic willow]

and it’s evil twin,Wasteland of Triumph

[icy spruce]

nO

I feel bad for GW

elder

[cosmic willow]

yeah

[icy spruce]

cause they had to deal with the twins

[cosmic willow]

even in limbo they skip leg day

[icy spruce]

I

[cosmic willow]

also sometimes i wonder what vault elder is hiding(besides copious amounts of lore

[icy spruce]

what if

uhhh

[cosmic willow]

most of their body is hidden tbh

[icy spruce]

ngl I kinda wish there would be a season in Vault (aside from the next season)

[cosmic willow]

yeah

[icy spruce]

lik

e

[cosmic willow]

the vault is pretty

[icy spruce]

Season of Nightmares (since Vault is like, dreamy)

where they introduce yknow

hehehe

[cosmic willow]

also in the canon doc they said vault was like a dream/memory i’m half right
rubs tiny moth palms

[icy spruce]

ye

well

more like: Vault is intended to feel dreamy

yknow

like, you're in a dream

[cosmic willow]

true

also cosmic manta cape cosmic manta cape

[icy spruce]

yes

[cosmic willow]

more like you actually fainted after wasteland and the vault feels like a big fever dream

[icy spruce]

yes

[cosmic willow]

then the elder wakes you up to go to death castle

[icy spruce]

so true

but ye

[cosmic willow]

also i found the nice crabs

they are real

[icy spruce]

yay

yes

they're real

and they dont have the dark particles

thing

[cosmic willow]

yep

wait the graveyard krebbab has dark particles

whoever ate that probably got food poisoning

[lofty rover]

Wh

[cosmic willow]

yeah there was a crab roast in gw but I’ve only saw it once and it was when i got krilled

[lofty rover]

Oh I have had a nice convo on a table there

[cosmic willow]

i want to see it again but i am afraid

[icy spruce]

I'm currently in an expedition

[lofty rover]

It was all death
And a young moff chilling with a veteran

[icy spruce]

wanna join? for the name of lore?

[lofty rover]

Ye

[cosmic willow]

sorry i can’t

[icy spruce]

mkay

also

[cosmic willow]

got plans for the next hour

[lofty rover]

I might leave in between to attend to ongoing vaccine side effects

[cosmic willow]

yk what

I’ll come with but only for half an hour

[icy spruce]

also, what if the grandpa uhh

commited dust

cause of the krebab

[lofty rover]

Who committed what

[icy spruce]

since it has black particles

[lofty rover]

Ahahahahaha

Ded

[cosmic willow]

so the catapult statue actually ate some crab,made a catapult and died of food poisoning

this is my favourite theory

[lofty rover]

My fav reason for the smog

[harsh pecan]

What’s the topic?

[icy spruce]

krebab

[lofty rover]

The krebab

[harsh pecan]

Lol

[icy spruce]

deadly krebab

[cosmic willow]

deadly krebab that was the reason for the fall of sky

[lofty rover]

It was a biochemical weapon

Everyone: the lore kids have the answers. They smort.
lore chat:

[icy spruce]

deadly krebab is the reason

why king became corrupted

[lofty rover]

He inhaled unthinkable fumes

[cosmic willow]

megabirb is actually many glowing krebab

[lofty rover]

Megabirb bbq

[icy spruce]

wait

so I've been serving fried crabs?

nice

[lofty rover]

😂

[cosmic willow]

the creator deity is food

okay

[lofty rover]

What does it make us?

That's why we look like pots.

We utensil

[cosmic willow]

a snack

[lofty rover]

We have little light snacks in us

And our bodies are utensils

[cosmic willow]

no wonder the krills attack us

they’re hangry

[lofty rover]

We are just krill fodder

[icy spruce]

I

yes

[cosmic willow]

Table:Utensils of the Food

[icy spruce]

they're angry and hungry

hangry

[cosmic willow]

yes

[lofty rover]

Fun fact: the centre for hunger and anger are the same in your brain

That's why you get Hangry

Like the location is same

[cosmic willow]

well tbh when you’re hungry you’re angry about no food and when you’re angry you’re hungry for throwing hands

[lofty rover]

What did I just read. Time for fever meds.

[cosmic willow]

yes

[icy spruce]

w h t

[cosmic willow]

back to lore ig

[lofty rover]

Ye

[icy spruce]

yis

[lofty rover]

I went and saw that glowy spec again

In ark

It looks like a tiny wl

But a floater when you get close

[cosmic willow]

that’s weird
never happens to me

[lofty rover]

Kay imma take you there someday

I took my veteran friend. Sadly they didn't know about it either

[cosmic willow]

i see

also btw the vault rib cage doesn’t look like any creature in game according to the canon doc

[lofty rover]

Wha

It doesn't even have a head

[icy spruce]

wait what

[lofty rover]

It has a hole in the centre of the rib back. So has a developed spinal column

Meaning it is a higher mammal

[cosmic willow]

yesss a biology student

show us the way

[lofty rover]

Lol sorry to inform you I don't specialise in animal biology but ye I know something

[cosmic willow]

still very cool

[lofty rover]

Didn't someone say krills don't have heads?

I mean the skeleton

[icy spruce]

A

[lofty rover]

Also, isn't it weird that krills just have one eye.. yet we can avoid them once we move away from the line of their sight

[icy spruce]

adios

[cosmic willow]

yeah

blind darkness shrimp

[frozen pivot]

one more thing to prove that they might not be creatures but rather autonomous machines which purpose may have been altered by the dark stuff

i mean sure they look around to search once out of line of sight but they dont move to the area where they last saw smth

tho might be game mechs to make the game easier

idk

this why krills lame

[frozen pivot]

either this or they werent programmed to stay away from their route unless they spot smth and charged at it, only then will they move from the path and continue back with their patrol

[thin dirge]

Okay, Ill be talking about that theory I once had that the King/Prince was probably influenced by the Elders which caused the whole mess in the Sky Kingdom

When I look at this further, it kinda makes some sense? Tho, probs not enough evidence as a full blown theory, but I guess plausible enough?

At least keep it as a headcanon

[harsh pecan]

Please-

[thin dirge]

The Prince/King is considered a Child of Light. A child. I mentioned in the past that this may mean that they were influenced by the adults around them, which we know as Elders

[harsh pecan]

Yea

[icy spruce]

ngl, I headcanon King/Prince to have Golden child syndrome

[thin dirge]

We see this constellation in Home and also in the Light. I believe these represent the Elders

The one at the bottom represents Isle, the five outer stars linked to the star in the middle are the other five Elders.

The middle, is the Prince/King. Here, we see another circle, which is probably a sign its them because circles are associated with the Light

But notice how the five Elders are placed ABOVE the Prince/King

The Isle Elder is placed BENEATH the Prince/King

[cosmic willow]

wait
what if each of the elders taught the prince some thing special and when darkness struck they all ended up using a corruption of it which directly or indirectly broke the kingdom of sky
like prairie elder teaching them how to care for creatures but later hunting them to extinction

[thin dirge]

We know the Isle Elder's role, from the concepts to the current lore, is to guide creatures towards the Light. Which would make sense that Isle is underneath, pointing UP to the Prince/King, who was the Child of the Light

But then other five Elders are above the Prince/King

This is important, as it may signify that the Elders are above the Prince/King

[cosmic willow]

well based on stargazer’s memory,could be that isle found the prince and guided him to the prophets and other elders

[thin dirge]

Meaning the Prince/King is underneath them, under their guidance

It just so happens that it is only the five Elders are on the door to Eden, the centre of the destruction of the Sky Kingdom

[cosmic willow]

make sense

[thin dirge]

I mean, could be argued that the Eden door is a leftover from Beta, but also gotta remember they could've changed it anytime, but kept it

[true grove]

[thin dirge]

Its similar, but different

[true grove]

Yw

[cosmic willow]

the elders all showed fatal flaws that could easily have took the kingdom down

[true grove]

Ye

Someone discussed it before they connected it to starting cutscene

[thin dirge]

There's this significant theme in Sky about the newer generation correcting the mistakes of the past generation.

[cosmic willow]

we know that there was a war in wasteland and it devastated the place

[thin dirge]

But the Prince/King? They were supposed to be the newer generation here.

[restive cosmos]

I wanna try

[thin dirge]

The Elders were depicted as the older generation. They were considered the adults compared to the Prince

So, I think the Prince/King isn't really the ones entirely responsible for Sky's fall.

[cosmic willow]

true

[thin dirge]

As I said, it just so happened the five Elders are marked on Eden's door

The five Elders who are supposed to guide the Prince

[cosmic willow]

based on some cutscenes i can get some of their roles
forest prolly was too ambitious,exploited her realm and regrets it

valley twins could be too competitive and their pride also could bring them down

[thin dirge]

All this "propaganda"? I was pretty convinced for quite some time that it wasn't the Prince/King who ordered statues of themselves whereever

It was probably the ppl and the Elders who overpraised the Prince/King

Also, it links to The Little Prince, where the Aviator was forced to grow up because of the ADULTS.

[cosmic willow]

honestly where is the line between prince and king

[thin dirge]

He quit drawing and became an adult because the grown-ups made him feel bad that his drawings failed

[mint widget]

omg ur mind. these are so good

[cosmic willow]

and yes butter please keep the braincell

more theories

[harsh pecan]

Yes you’re so smart

[icy spruce]

Yeyeye, that’s why I think King/Prince has Golden Child Syndrome (basically, child get overpraised and at the future, they want to be perfect and all)

[thin dirge]

Yeah, thats also possible

[cosmic willow]

that could lead to all the statue effort and trying to get the giant diamond

[icy spruce]

ye prolly

[cosmic willow]

which basically blew up the entire kingdom

[thin dirge]

Also, the Elders may have acted differently towards us from when they acted towards the Prince

Vault may have been a strict mom, Forest could have become overambitious, etc etc

[cosmic willow]

we’re kinda like a second incantation of the prince

[thin dirge]

I also had this headcanon that the Prince didn't order the creation of the Eden Diamond. The others created it to commemorate the Prince's coronation

[cosmic willow]

it was already there in the coronation yeah

[icy spruce]

Ye

[thin dirge]

Also, its even hinted in the concepts. The Elders' darkstone pretty much trapped the Prince and... uh yeah, the rest is history

[cosmic willow]

think they ended up sharing a braincell late into dark stone era where the war basically stopped wasteland (a major diamond production realm)from doing the thing
then they probably decided hey we need a big energy source
might as well use that ceremonial diamond

and they did

but it wasn’t enough,they kept adding to it eventually even trying to get the resources of eden
and with all that light the diamond basically overheated/got super charged and exploded creating the storm

[thin dirge]

They probably try to fix their mistakes of the past... Well, probably only Vault, since they make us do the job instead

[cosmic willow]

also i have a theory about the valley snow

[thin dirge]

[cosmic willow]

so when a large volcano erupts,the ash kinda blocks the sun and makes snow formation(?) easier

causing a volcanic winter

[faint valley]

AYO THATS REALLY SMART

[icy spruce]

O

[cosmic willow]

if i substitute ash with the dark dust in the equation,could the valley snow be some form of that

btw i saw a very good theory involving climate change

[icy spruce]

imo, I don't really agree (sorry) about your theory since judging by the spirit's clothes. It's winter wear, so uh

(sorry again)

[cosmic willow]

eh it’s okay

[harsh pecan]

Why dont they wear climate appropriate clothes anyways?

[cosmic willow]

the closer you get to the storm the more serious the impact tbh

the vault room after cutscene is quite literally a ruin

it’s been blown to smithereens

wasteland prolly got them krill from too much darkness from the war and industrial reasons

[icy spruce]

ye

Valley is fine for some reason

prolly cause its high

or smthng idk

[cosmic willow]

it’s the snow in my theory

[icy spruce]

or that

[cosmic willow]

also krill were always there but prolly became not nice after darkness many

forest has the obvious acid rain which could be from air pollution during manufacturing,since it needs light and darkstone

chemical reactions give heat and there’s probably manta oil in the smoke

groundwater is fine if the mushrooms purification theory stands

isle and prairie are just eh not scary

putting the braincell back on the shelf

need to shower

[coral palm]

where lore

[jovial wolf]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3ttuC2wd2M

go to 5 min 30

a hacker make a super jump

and prove that the sky planet is round

[pseudo heart]

As much as we appreciate potential lore content we are not supposed to discuss hackers nor what they do or did anywhere in this server.

[outer void]

theres was a (non-hacking/glitching) way to go to space in the office, which also proved the planet was round

[orchid jolt]

@Resh @chesca, host of chat got krilled

[pastel brook]

@orchid jolt who?

[orchid jolt]

Did the image get sent?

[cosmic willow]

ye

[orchid jolt]

Ok thx

[icy spruce]

Oh ye

That

Tbank you

I also have another one (sadly blocked by candle)

[cosmic willow]

catapult man:0

now i wanna go on a lore field trip

[icy spruce]

one day we will (not likely tho)

[cosmic willow]

true

i need to git gud at dodging krill and maybe i’ll climb statues

[icy spruce]

I

[novel jackal]

concept art warrior?

[ripe fern]

Idk where to ask this exactly but I recently have problems with seeing wax? I thought maybe I already collected here since I can’t see it but when I get closer I collect it like normal wax

[novel jackal]

maybe ask this in #questions-and-help ?

[ripe fern]

I sowie didn’t see that one thanks! Kinda new to discord 🥲

[novel jackal]

it's fine!

[thin dirge]

I saw a video exploring the distant diamond factory in GW.... Its actually just a factory submerged in water, looks wrecked.

Gotta sneep, so Ill leave a link

https://youtu.be/pO7pPW4Wnco

Btw, it was explored thanks to a glitch, not a hack

Just putting this out there so that there's no misunderstanding!

[lilac sand]

Thank you so much, I’ve always wanted to visit there.

[boreal nebula]

I just saw The Little Prince teaser and the only thing I can think is (finally they will explain the king/prince propaganda!? NOPE)

So this seems another proof of Vault being a dream realms!

[lofty rover]

Yeah like I said.. looks bronze

[twin horizon]

What made the stars fall? We see them 'fall' but what was responsible for that? I think it's metaphorical tbh but who caused the collapse of the realms and also why aren't there people/spirits living in the realms? Where did they go? There was clearly a large amount of people/spirits at one time (village of dreams, valley of triumph stadium have large capacity) and there aren't enough children in Eden or as wl to make a realistic amount of people/spirits who once lived there

[proud fable]

Well, spirits are dead ppl

Posibly from eden explosion

[proud fable]

The stars that fell are the ancestors

[twin horizon]

Maybe, but wouldn't the buildings be destroyed? And there aren't many spirits

[proud fable]

Yes, that is true, but in every season more and more spirits are added to the list

Ansd do not forget Wasteland, Vault, Eden, Bird nest, and the end of Mountains

they all have destroyed buildings

[twin horizon]

I suppose you're right, yeah

[patent marlin]

A little off topic but i'm kind of dissapointed with the incoming season..i thought it would have more lore-

Like- a crossover is great but..for a whole season? Idk how it will work out

Maybe they could make a new area in Eden and we could have a season there then

[hushed glen]

It's most likely going to be half and half

We'll probably still get sky lore

[patent marlin]

Yeah,it will be amazing anyways,i can see tgc is working hard on the new season

[hushed glen]

Indeed they are

This is something brand new after all

[patent marlin]

A crossover for a whole season sounds amazing,but idk how it will work out

Guess we can just wait and see

[orchid jolt]

I know I'm being to hopeful, but now that they are doing one crossover maybe they'll do one with Journey? I know it's unlikely but I can't get that thought out of my head...

[patent marlin]

Maybe,i mean,they made a journey inspired cape so it's not impossible

[fleet geyser]

Is the valley temple non-euclidean?
On the cutscene you appear to be inside and outside the temple at the same time

[patent marlin]

Dunno- maybe yes?

[mint widget]

hi lore chat

[hushed glen]

Hi

[tired matrix]

is there anywhere to find and look at the concept art?

[hushed glen]

Check pins! Tom zhao's website has a bunch of concept art

[tired matrix]

thanks!!

[hushed steeple]

Wait there’s a new season?!?!!

[rapid juniper]

Ye like there’s always a new season

[hushed steeple]

no I know but what’s the new season?

[rapid juniper]

#news message

[tribal sand]

omg

[worldly sage]

Wait, so if the Ushering Stargazer witnessed the birth of a Sky kid, does this mean the spirits died after the arrival of Sky kids? Or was Ushering Stargazer just long-lived?

[harsh pecan]

Probably, but I think it’s the Prince

[worldly sage]

The who what now-?

[harsh pecan]

I see, do you want a doc?

[worldly sage]

Yes pls

[harsh pecan]

Wait

[worldly sage]

kk

[harsh pecan]

Hello new Lore Moff!
Read this short document to get started! Once you’ve read this, check out pins for more information.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit

credits to Bricky

[worldly sage]

I see

[somber swallow]

what in the h e c k would this mean

[hushed glen]

Idk

Possible new lore thing

[somber swallow]

its been said since march of last year so hm

i'd think its hinting at the sound of the whale in Sanctuary

or the existence of the Megabird

[hushed steeple]

Idk-

[reef flax]

Megabird calling down from Orbit for sure

[harsh pecan]

How are there droplet particles in the shade? (Idk if you can see them but they’re there)

[rapid juniper]

No the bot isn’t part of lore I think someone said the bot is just joking I’m not sure I can’t remember

[hushed glen]

Ah

[cosmic python]

Ok so I was trying to find stuff about the lore assuming I've prety much seen everything that isn't involving beta content and assuming this isn't that, what the hell is this???

[orchid crypt]

from memory, rockboi is a really old concept they scrapped super early on in development -- but then decided to plonk in the secret area for the lulz

[cosmic python]

Oh ok

It's really goofy looking

[orchid crypt]

i like to think of it as the sky kid interpretation of a giant mecha/gundam

[icy spruce]

chat got krilled

[pastel brook]

Fineeee, gather around the bonfire, I'm going to play a lullaby for you!

[icy spruce]

yes

anyways

bery sadge :(

[lofty rover]

Aww thanks bot.

[icy spruce]

yes

so uuh, lore

[lofty rover]

I wanted to say something about the topic yesterday, but I was too sick to think all day. Now I forgot

[mint widget]

oa