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What mother pirana, who will come show who's here
mother what who will come show who's here?
Oop
Thats....uhh....strange 
hmm
Lmao lemme try to reverse translate
imma listen to the video again
GOOD NEWS
FOUND A VIDEO
THATS LIKE
UH
NOW SFX
SO WE CAN HEAR
THE VOICE CLEARLY
YEET
Ehem. Sinä ja Minä
*no
"You and me"?
Nothing. I learnt that somewhere.
Aight
I shall now proceed to clicc :>
E
p a i n
BREAD IN FRENCCHHHH
Haha
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
sad is I
You will find orbit music nicer, trust me.
Ahyes
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I’m trying to decode it rn
Idk
hehehe, mother piranha
Lol
Lol
So funny
I reversed it and...
O?
O
It’s just a bunch of gibberish
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Gjsjcvcxk
Lmao
Ok so uh-
Lmao
Here's 3 more results
One making more sense than the last
Ig
Mariana
Mandarin
Lamp
Idk
I
First piranas, NOW PIDGEONS
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
O?
O?
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H m m m m
OMG YESS
maybe lamp is a symbolized as like
?
skids are like
the lamp
of Sky
yknow
the light of the dark
idk, brain got krilled
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Oop
One of the founders of Sky is Chinese and y’know, Mandarin....yea
Well Eden is bright. Just upside down.
After comparing the comment to the song, It didn't really match in some parts :'>
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Hmmm
yeah
Me =What
Noama =Pleasantness
(I also tried to combine them and got this:
Menoama=Lamp/Son and mother)
pireno =Between us
MiSoLei =who controls/ who hates/ Survivor/Tried
Noleroteno =We were born/Not show us/come see today/you were born today
Mi Fordoh=Farewell
Aight I'm done 

hmm whats this
We were trying to decipher the voice at the beginning of Isle
Interesting
Indeed
Foreshadowing perhaps? 
Hey lore chat! So uh....I don't know if it's appropriate to ask here but can someone give me a quick explanation of the lore?
Ur from israel?🧐
Whut
I just used my voice to mimic the song and google translate did the rest
even though i'm a moth with a vast amount of knowledge, these names have eluded my grasp 
Weird language, i know😂❤️
There's soo much, you can just lurk here and read the chat to get an idea
feel free to present your ideas too
What about this locked door in the chubby whale underground cave in sunny forest?
Its there for sooooo long, i wonder when the devs will make something out of it already
Ooh didn't someone send some screenshots of that OOB a while ago?
Property it's a leftover,
It would be really cool if it opened up
I have some pics it's empty inside
It been there since 2019 i swear-
Yea
Sky taking things slow...😂
I see i see
||Yo, the spirits are that of past civilization right? And some of them appear much younger, like… children and all. And some of the seasons has us complete quests for them.
Could it be that whatever wiped out the civilizations happened so suddenly, and the quests we are given from them are what we have to accomplish before they can ascend?
I've come to that realization seeing all the assembly spirits being children and all… and they haven't built their treehouse… because they might's died before they could.||
You don't have to spoiler tag here, it's a spoiler chat
Also what about the ??? Spirits at the realms lounges? At first i thought those are ones that will be added in the future but.. idk
Yeh, I spoiler because it's kinda dark n' all
Hmm
Speaking of spirits/ancestors
Is there a lore-related reason why in every realm, there is like, one ancestor that has the same mask as their respective realm's elder?
Otherthanforcosplayofc
Probably as praise or something
H m
fanboy and fangirl for elder
hehe
I see the forest elder as a man cough
So we can get the elder masks 
Wait the valley elders' names are Samekh, right? But wait...there are 2 elders. So...is one Sa and rhe other Mekh 
wait, who are we talking about, @urban furnace? 
Fanon names my dear 
But yeah
Oh sorry ^^' I just read the doc and I'm still a moth in this area. I usually just lurk on gen chat but I wanted to try somethin new today 
N i c e
Samekh is what I called my moth character in a roleplay server
wait, who are we talking about, @paper swallow? 
Ahem
Also we should avoid using old names as they may confuse people
Why do I have a feeling this sky bot uses this dialogue when we mention an elder fanon name-
Valley elders.
Samekh
huh, who's that, @urban furnace?
Daleth is an elder
@hushed steeple who? 
A h y e s
Wait, does that do that with every hebrew letter? Lol
That's true and also megan is a trigger word 
huh, who's that, @true grove?
Ayin
Oml
Awh
Also it's random
@urban furnace who? 
Teth
looking thru my database to find more info about them...
nothing has been found, maybe you should use a different name next time? @paper swallow 
Ok I'll stop now.
Aleph
Skybot when Megan: 
@fading bear who? 
King and prince typo aren't triggers
Alef :>
sorry, never heard of them, @hushed steeple 
Ahyes
Alef
Resh ::>>
wait, who are we talking about, @urban furnace? 
HSHSHSHSHH
Poor Skybot
Btw
Sa and mekh
Ok lets stop triggering the bot
We just bullying them
Yes
Oh yeah I saw cool concepts in the ||office||
||office||
@urban furnace who dat? 
you dont have to spoiler office !
Ye all concepts are linked in pins
Whaaaaaaat!? You don't have to censor office here!? 
Ofc
Ye
Niiice
Don't have to spoiler anything
The very name of this channel literally says "spoilers" 
Yeah the current state I'm at rn really shows that I've never wandered here before....
I put too much sugar in my coffee

R i p
Has there ever been a theory said here considering that all the spirit memories we have relived are actually our memories and they were our past lives or reincarnations just like "The egg" theory/ story of how humanity is? 
W o a h
I was researching some things for history class and I came across the people of Pompeii. They immediately reminded me of the "dead" skykids in Eden. Could they be inspired by them?
certainly the concepts are there: large moutain, ash-people, frozen in action
what is megabird
someone in #cozy-sky-discussion said somen about it
Also, I think I read in some concepts (?) once that remains, like the bones in GW only get left behind when a creatures dies in an unnatural way. If they die a natural death they just return to the Megabird.
Personally I believe that if skids are made out of something other than pure light, they might be a combination of Light and clay. Maybe the skids we save are just dried clay shells we give light to again. The light in skids could maybe make the clay soft so they can move and once the light has left the clay hardens?? It's not really how clay works, but still kinda interesting
I guess that last theory thing would make more sense if they were made out of Wax, but then they'd melt so uh I need to do a revision
Well, you're not half wrong. There's human mythologies that humans and other beings where made of clay so you're probs not far off
Yeah that's true! And I believe there are some similarities with golems too? I should look that up
imo skykids are like golems, i feel we're similar to the mythos
connecting back to the kabbalah of the placeholder elder names and leaning on lots of abrahamic concepts, i wouldnt be surprised if we were inspired by golems. golems were creatures made of clay designed to protect jewish communities from violent anti-semitism they would face in their day-to-day life. they would be brought to life by a rabbi with "אמת" (emet; truth) inscribed on their forehead. when the golem had served their purpose the alef would be erased so it would say "מת" (met; death). however, they could always be brought back when the alef was returned to their forehead if the community needed defending once more.
skykids are beings made to protect the community. the community of ourselves as well as the fallen kingdom. we're helpers, we're saviours. we fight off the darkness with the power of the Oneness with the Creator, which is the whole gist of the alef. when we go through eden, we lose that oneness, we lose our light, the alef is erased from our foreheads and we are inscribed with death. but our work is not over, and we're brought back. we hug the prince in orbit, we become one with the alef again, and we're brought back to continue protecting the bones of the kingdom.
@lethal stump who? 
go away skybot im talking about the kabbalah
mind yall im not jewish i just read a lot about kabbalah because its cool
@fading bear since you were wondering abt golems ill ping you
I honestly think chonky boi from this season the brother of the confident stance emote child
Thank you! That's such a cool theory!
yeah, reading abt the kabbalah really gives you thoughts abt sky since theres lots of similar themes
the spiritual journey that is the hebrew alphabet is actuall extremely interesting
especially the connection between the Alef and the Resh
looking thru my database to find more info about them...
nothing has been found, maybe you should use a different name next time? @lethal stump 
s h u t
The Reish, the 20th Hebrew letter, means head, leader and beginning. It is the symbol of choosing between greatness and degradation. In it is the word for poor רש Rash, but when it is filled the power of the Aleph it becomes Rosh ראש, head or first, expressing the Firstness, Oneness, and Eternity of the Creator, and the qualities of being a leader, not a follower.
this just,,its amazing
when it is filled the power of the Aleph it becomes Rosh ראש, head or first, expressing the Firstness, Oneness, and Eternity of the Creator
even though i'm a moth with a vast amount of knowledge, these names have eluded my grasp 
go AWAY
Oh wow that is fantastic, now I have to read about it
Thank yououuou
Seems like Skybot just having a feast here lol
this is interesting... maybe when your going through eden, you would represent the rabbis writing the aleph. but instead of it being golems its other skykids just like you.
yeeeeeeees golem skykids
maybe this is the forehead diamond reason...?
I now believe this
maybe this is the forehead diamond reason...?
ooh thats actually a really cool connection !
although it makes you wonder why the masks the spirits wear have the forehead diamonds,,and why the elders have forehead diamonds.....
maybe the elders are like golems too ? made to defend and help, but becoming twisted by the darkness to lead to what we now know as sky
isle elder concept art is interesting
legg
float
i mean we kinda can do magic, yeah
And with a certain emote our cape starts to flow when there is no wind
It's written drip all over his body 
great i cant unsee that now

Can u guys fill up the chat
:0 I just reread this and it suddenly makes a lot of sense. krills might be trying to protect us from eden, from death, and they represent the kind words trying to protect you, but we don't realize the kindness and we try to stay away from it due to it stopping you from achieving your goal
sorry this is really late
i think krills want capes like skykids so they krill us so they can steal our wl and make there own capes 
Instead of kindness, may I suggest harsh words to protect you from danger?
For example, if you’re crossing a street and a vehicle will hit you, someone might pull/push you away and say “HEY GO BACK!” or “BE CAREFUL!” or something along those lines?
hello lore chat!! me and my friends are having a powerpoint presentation event and i plan to make mine on sky lore

and i know stuff about sky lore but i'm,,, i can't really word it or organise it perfectly?
any tips on where should i start or how i can structure it? i need help, please!! 
hmm, also fits in with the importance of the light on the forehead as every mask seems to make sure its visible
i noticed that the dev caped skid has no chest light (along with no flap meter on their back)
or diamonds or whatever the name is, imma just call em the flap meter
I think that either their cape is made out of real fabric or they’re a skykid ghost/spirit 
would that mean that since mantas and jellyfish and butterflies are helping us to eden, they're oblivious to its dangers? or that they want us to suffer?
the mantas are the other voices that encourage us to try what we want. which is why they are helping us reach our "goals" the game. and so we see them as good and helpful since we like others to support our choices
that makes more sense
maybe they know that after all the suffering and dying, there's beauty they want us to see
maybe....yea....
unlike krills who probably think eden is entirely death and stuff
especially since they arent seen in the beautiful areas of eden
or maybe they just think the same way as us, since we're all light creatures.....like if you want to skip classes some of your friends might support you because they would want to be able to skip class too while others might try to stop you or even tell the teacher just to make sure you get your knowledge....and you know which friends you would like better
(yes, bad analogy i know but it's the only one i can think of)
are storylines of sky and journey about the same thing? what is the significant difference between them?
when you take away all of the new designs & systems of sky and keep the honking, then it does feel like journey's storyline
never played journey but from what i know it's all based on life, from birth to death
indeed that is what i thought, although there is some honking present in journey
despite Journey being wordless, it feels like it has a lot more canon lore than Sky
sky should have more canon lore if tgc isn't afraid of huge debates going on in lore chat
i joined sky for the great big story i would learn but as soon as i found that everything was super interpretive it just suddenly didnt feel as significant
i wish there was more canon lore and tgc would allow us to have debates in lore chat
i would love more Prince lore but it actually explains what happened in Eden
making the whole lore too open ended just seems to take away part of the game's soul imo
it'd be fun if there would be a "debate event" like once a week, were a topic is given and everyone can just go ham
ig they left it open ended because Sky is about social interaction, not about its story
but it would be nice to learn the story with a friend
i just spent several minutes elaborating on a statement only to realise that i have changed my opinion in process
i dislike it when that happens
you can still talk about your old and new opinions
From an article I barely remember, Journey is more about loneliness and how one person can make a world of difference whereas sky is about empathy and helping others
wait, we arent allowed to have huge debates?
we can but usually they dont lead to conclusions
Wait was that the same with journey or?
The open lore thing
oh
there was definitive lore and backstory for Journey that wasn't interpretive like Sky's lore is
no, meeting other players is rarer i think. Ive never actually played journey, so i could be wrong
and interesting analogy i heard once was that journy is about you and me and sky is about us
honestly i think Journey was made around its story and then devs thought "wouldnt it be cool if players could meet"
and yeah usually you only see 1 - 2 players every Journey
or at least i would see only 1 - 2
i know some people would see like up to 5 or even 7
sort of. Lore indefiniteness leads to plausibility of events like "actually, none of these things really happened". It is a dead end if storyline is completely defined, but not being able to arrive to a fitting and universal and actual picture of world is destructive to understanding of the world, because, in example, it is impossible in this case to know for sure why and for what purpose sky kids exists. We are given general and overall answer, but details (which are absent) could change understanding of narrative as it is present. In this scenario we can only imagine... Would it be a right thing to have these answers? It would add this burdening feeling of world's greatness, which would shift game's focus from empathy to a great mission of skids. This is not how devs visioned this game, apparently. Yes, this indefiniteness is intentional, but because of this, in my opinion, the game itself just feels hollow as if nothing of a significance is here...
i hope these next few seasons will change that
maybe give us insight on the elders and the king
something that will at least put an end to some arguments
I feel like the vault season would be like Prophecy and Enchantment and give us more lore
Probably, but then again the next season could take place in any realm
Vault is the only realm without its own seasonal area
Archives don't count because that's part of belonging
yeah
how these 4 elements from prophecy are related to the sky? they seem to serve no purpose beside that Prince drawing on top of cave ceiling...
Well, all four elements are in the world of sky
Water - Water ofc what else would it be
Earth - Ground
Air - Self explanatory
Fire - Flame
My story line of sky: the settlers came from a far off land and settled in the isle of dawn and the what we now know as the wastes. These settlers began making capes of clouds to sail among the early winds (where we collect the cyan light) to the daylight prairie to make permanent homes and clay pots to store water and food.
Part 2 of the story: the settlers in the wastes meantime split apart into groups too. The scholars and writers constructed the vault, and the athletes and dreamers created the (now) citadel and the village of dreams in the valley.
Hope im right so far i made this a week ago so
that is actually interesting
nothing has to be spoilered here :)
be freeee
that really is interesting
i always thought the temple in isle was a ship
which is what they used to get here idk
Speaking of storylines, I don't know what the elders should be referred as other than "____ elder" or their fanon names
For mine
the mods discourage the use of fanon names
The vessel they used to get there was the ark (the main boat) you can tell from the murals on the ark and cave of prophecies
so maybe the realm names are better
So the wastes and isle are obviously connected somehow
that is the point, it probably doesnt even matter
is it also weird that despite having capes they invented boats?
to transport heavy stuff
and before the new spirit update the spirits you would collect in the flying race had no capes?
Yeah it’s probably because a cape can only get you so far like in the valley and wastes
i would say that they had capes for decorative purposes, since we dont see any spirits using them to fly
also, hi im new here (unrelated)
Hi
skids are probably using capes that are made of light, because skids themselves are heavier than air (mixture of dark and light). It is hinted by reunion of dark and light children in eden
this is also true, because our capes do get drained by rain and oil (oil???) and BONKS
Used to have bonk damage 
we discussed this subject a few weeks ago and we came to the conclusion that capes were style choices and not for flying
and that the first spirit to try using their cape to fly is the first spirit to sell a cape
We see the pots from the prairie being carried on the boats to the kingdom of sky containing the 6 lights that we use to restore the ark so the spirits obviously have a prior knowledge of pottery (not important just wanted to point it out)
The murals can teach you alot they are underrated seriously
they can
also, i do find it interesting that the butterfly catcher is the first spirit we ecounter with a cape, and that they have to do with an creature of light that flies
I need to look at every single mural, well at least take screenshots of them
it can also be noted that the ark seems to tell that the enchantment spirits mingled with lightseeker spirits?
like
yes!!
Yeah the big ones are the ark and cave of prophecies
they have the hats and umbrella and the light ball
Ark is a mural
i pointed that out (lightseeker, bigboat, and ark) to my friend group when i first started
if i scroll far enough i'll find pictures brb
Yeah no the cave by the ark also has some stuff if you are willing to wrestle with the crabs
my theory is that multiple people tried to escape the land of sky after the darkness thing
you see that one boat in wasteland, and the ark
theyre probably connected
Yeah the crab fields
thats a nobrainer of course
to where? beyond the sky land only ocean is present soo
i thought that they were trying to restore the wasteland using the lights they carried
who knows, maybe our homespace heehee
i have pictures (credit to Bricky {he/him})
or they were trying to find another "paradise"
What do you all want now 
i want more lore skyscout
p l e a s e
#lore-discussion-spoilers message
^^ ark mural pics ^^
Hello there!
We know that the waste land was once a sprawling realm and probably was the capital sharing some connection with the isle (backed up by the ark description when restoring it) and then fell when eden seeped through the into the wastes
why ancestors needed these pipe systems in wasteland and eden?
After that the wastes was locked off and the valley became the capital of the kingdom of sky
another thought i personally had about wasteland was that it was a development hell, their fans that wanted the games to come out made so much toxicity that they all got smacked upside the head by krill/j
it seems like wasteland went into either a civil war or a creature war
Dark stone
Maybe both
this could be an either or, because remeber in journey (previous unrelated game) it was a civil war
why needed the dark stone? they wanted to damage themselves with dangerous mineral?
Seeing the battlefield (not to be confused with the graveyard which is the area before it) its probably a civil war
because they did not feel
fabulous
Dark stone gives you ability to create stuff
Also not to be confused with the battlefield in eden
which stuff?
^^
I mean the darkstone allowed for the creation of the diamond by the forest elder which powers the vaults elevator
...wasnt that made by the forst elder tho???
Yeah it was
Yeah although nowhere as near as big as the diamond in the vault
i see
Yeah
ok bye everyone
Byeeee
Ok i got sidetracked imma do the sanctuary earth day quests now
Earth day quests??
Okay can we talk about how bells chime in the diffrent realms when your in homespace?
Yes why that happens
Vault elder is Eden elder’s mother
If each elder is more advanced/more powerful than the last, Vault Elder should have been able to resist the corruption the most, or just generally be in the best position to oppose Eden elder. But she didnt. Also, she’s perpetually lamenting. She also has “mom energy”. I know there really isnt gender in Sky, so I use the word Mom as a “birthgiver” role, not necessarily in the woman parent role.
(It could also be in conjunction to the fact that Wasteland Elder was a member of HBT and therefore had a sense of immunity in that regard)
Yes—between HBT and Eden Elder forces
Whats the HBT? (Im serious id actually like to know)
The Holy Burrito makes all things make sense 😌
I like your funny words, burrito man
Nothing bad ever happens to the Holy Burrito
oh something bad will happend now
senior taco?
It's funny how the last theory here was about Wasteland, because I just thought of another one about it
This one is way less detailed, probably making me look like an idiot, but here we go
Theory: The Golden Wasteland is actually underwater/ocean themed
1st: You enter the Wasteland through a tornado thing. I think this could be a whirlpool. Past here, you don't see any cloud tunnels or barriers. The only clouds are above you.
You actually do see some cloud barriers near the ark
Well, now I look like an idiot but let's go on
No im intrested in your theory go on
2nd: The Ark! And other shipwrecks! Yes, there are smaller wrecks all over the realms, but you only find these huge ones in Wasteland. This could be because you need boats as big as this to sail the ocean. The smaller boats scattered around the realms were probably just for rivers or something.
I like to think that the wastes are a giant cavern under the mountain of eden and the (very overlooked) desert between the valley and wastes goes on for alot longer than we think
It would make sense
3rd: Krill could be deep sea creatures. They have lights, like many real deep sea creatures, which obviously don't fool players, but I think the manta would have escaped if it had known.
4th: I think that the Wasteland could be a sunken city. It's near the Valley, which has cities and villages. It could be called "Golden" because the Valley's color scheme has a lot of gold to it, and if it used to be a part of that it would make sense. Why call a place gold and then make it all green?
There's a set of tunnels near the Ark which have wall pictures of the Wasteland being filled with crabs - this could be the city flooding
Since, the Valley has such a focus on competition, I feel like warriors wouldn't be too out of place.
You can also get a trumpet-horn type instrument there, which could have been used to announce games and competitions.
I actually thought that too! Its pretty obvious alot of the wastes are a sunken region of the valley below eden that could have flooded
The many walls you see around the Wasteland could have been walls surrounding arenas like the one at the end of Valley.
That's it. Definitely not as well written as the theory about the burrito religion, but it's something.
Also, I think the spirit that blows the horn was from before the city flooded. They were climbing up to a high point at the enternace to the arena to announce a game. They probably wouldn't blow a horn if they were defending against krill, since that would only attract them.
@rugged jackal the very last sentence of your post is tripping the filter. Remove that and it should send.
When you fly from the valley to the wasteland, the clouds go from pink/red, to yellow, before turning into a green hue
Said yellow could also be interpreted as gold ig
Idk I'm just spitballing here 
Yes, but would you really name a whole area after something that happens on the very edge of it for a few seconds at most?
H m m m m
I initially thought that gold could've been like a glimpse to it's past
But idk
Again, just spitballing
Yes, I think that too! It was gold because it was part of Valley, and gold is part of Valley's color scheme. They even have gold statues.
Also, I noticed the Wasteland has a few statues too. More points to it being part of Valley.
Imagine if in reality, a character in-game who named it was like "ooOOoh gold clouds! I'll name it the golden-" and then the rest of the realm appears
"...wasteland"
Jkjk
Hmm
I'm quite curious why the wasteland is the realm with the most statues of "the king"
Tbh, I didn't really pay attention to who the statues show, just that they were people lol
What king?
Ok, never heard of this one. Where do you meet him in-game?
You can’t meet the literal king in game
I think
So, he's just in the statues then.
Pretty much

Well, the Wasteland does have a few large structures I could see being palaces or something... and with how big the city could have been, I could see it being a capital.
Obviously I have no idea what this King guy's about, but that's the current way I'm putting it into the theory.
I tried to look more into this King guy, turns out the Wasteland was going to be a deserted castle in the concept art. Maybe part of that leaked into the final design, so we have the statues.
The Castle would probably be near or in the capital city, so there we go.
Adding onto the flooded city theory! The forgotten Ark has these two pictures on it. The people on the boats are escaping the flood. Then they get struck down by lightning, the boat sinks, and becomes the Ark.
All the sailors seem to have these big hat mask things - we also see them on spirits in the Vault. I believe these big hat mask things show that they're important citizens of the city, probably scholars from the Vault, the library. They were given priority when evacuating the city, and boarded the Ark, but died while escaping. The smaller boats were other citizens, many of which managed to escape, leaving their boats scattered throughout the realms.
Some think that the king is the one you meet who restores your light after eden- aka, the ‘one who cannot be saved’.
Hello
Do something with this (:
Hm
Headcannon:
Whale is here to guide the sky child, appearing in forest, wasteland, and breaking rocks in ascended.
I think the whales are prey to the krill. The whales were not ready to encounter such an effective predator when their size had protected them so far, so they were hunted to almost extinction.
Wait there’s multiple whales?
I don't know, maybe they're all the same one
I think that krill could hunt whales. They're similar in size, and the whales are slow while the krill can be quite fast when attacking.
its a possiblity
I actually fit this into my flooded city theory: whales lived with the city people, helping them transfer goods. The mantas don't look like they could carry much weight, so the city got help from the whales. When the city flooded and the krill arrived, they started hunting the whales.
chat got krilled for over an hour
now that’s something new...

It's quiet here 
There’s no chat got krilled thing right now, but eh I wasn’t on this channel too much today

So this means that Krills are artificial
I mean would's it make sense if the King created them out of dark stone and used them as weapons against creatures?
Also! I really like the flooded city theory
I believe they had different ways to pride him
O?
This is from tomzhao
in the storyline of Mountains
The same
the thingies that are on the top of structures are king emblems
Can someone explain me what are Elder creatures?
Elder creatures are large versions of the normal ones i guess
like the manta-whale hybrid looking thing that is summoned when you finish the sanctuary tasks
ye
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I honestly think that there is 2 different types of light: artifisial and natural. ID, DP and VOT are the natural light realms powerd by manta light and light of the sun. And HF, and VOK are powerd by arifisial light. Then we only have wasteland left: all we know is that there was a huge war but who against who? Artifisial against natural. We see 2 types of shields: one with a gem, and one with a sun on it... so the reason GW doesnt have light is bc of the war there. Another option of why GW is dark is because the making of artifisial light let all the water and light polluted and so also the big manta's maybe the krills are a skeleton of the manta boi hungering for light because his was taken away? Hmm maybe well never know
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I like this theory
maybe they were trying to make artificial to get stronger or smthng
This is probably the best place to put this-
So you know how we buy things like hairstyles and clothes from spirits? I like to think that when you "buy" a hair, the spirits actually teach you how to do that hairstyle/cut your hair that way. It's a very endearing concept to me
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or maybe they manipulate the light to create the hair (if you believe in the 'Cosmetics are made of light')
Yes thats so cool! And the say that your friendship level is incresed or smth so you learn it and then become friends
so when you complete a constellation you essentially become best friends with all the spirits there

And with clothes/capes they either have just copies of them chilling around, magically create one, or dye your current cape to that color,
Yes pls
going to start making more vault progress
Guiding a moth around like
"Who's that?"
"I call her Tomeko since she never told me her name, but she taught me how to do my hair!"
Wdym?
basically i’m fairly close to finishing the vault constellation and the theory that trading with spirits makes us friends just encourages me to spend more candles on them
everything is very expensive tho
That's why candle running is so important dnfjfkdks
Aight I'll be off now 
Ooo this just came to mind
To progress friendships with ppl you use candles, right? So does that mean that you're essentially mute/unable to speak when you haven't unlocked chat with that friend or don't have any friends around with chat unlocked?
Of course you can communicate via honks, so maybe skids just developed Morse code through honks lmao
We kinda already have that in sky
We honk once to greet people, spam honk to get someone's attention or warn people, etc
Why there is a house/or on who is this house??
funny easter egg since its beside office portal lol
can the corrupted king be seen in eden?? or is it just the mask?
no but i wish he could 🙏
ye :(
king my beloved olease come homw
Eden diamond: no <3
sobbing
F
I do think the King got corrupted because of greed, right? With the whole pollution theme and the picture in Vault where the Kings eats an apple (the original sin )
Same
ye
I don't know a lot about this topic so I kinda wanted to check how y'all feel about it
I think so too
me too i think
He was probably a kind and compelling leader but greed was his, and the kingdom’s ultimate downfall
::(:(/;
Yeah, I think it's pretty similar to our world in some way. Because of people's greed we're pretty much wrecking our world just like the ancestors of Sky did. Insert poetic message here
I always thought he was holding an orb going ooooo
lmao
Hehe
yehas
I mean, there are floating orb things, like in the Ark and at that one cave in Isle from Lightseekers? I do think the thing in that Vault picture is an reference to the apple, since the King has their mouth open, but it's fun to speculate anyway
There's also a big ball thing on top of Vault
E
i thinj
When you go to the Eden social area you come out of Vault, when you look back you can see it. On top of the roof is a weird statue-like thingy with (if I remember correctly) a big ball thing with a diamond decoration
oh yeeee
the diamond thing is just the pattern with 3 diamonds that's scattered throughout the game
E
Thank you boss
indeed
"How many reacts would you like to give this image"
The lore channel: y e s

Petition to add it in the office 
signed
Wait what pic-
May i see?
Is there any official names for the elders?
Rip
ye
Ιt feels weird to just call them "Isle Elder" and stuff
I think it’s this one?
yeye
Woah
he looks funky
lmao
he be dancin
One can say he's the... Dancing King
badum tss
Are those people praying underneath?-
Seems kinda sus
Probably
Do you think our capes are made of light? They don’t have shadows which implies that they aren’t actually solid. Idk probably just too hard to add cape and hair shadows
yeah that's a theory that I like
Like the skykids are made of clay/candle wax/whatever and they mimic the spirits that they see
In terms of emotes and also in their appearence
could eden statues be children bodies and we give them back a soul(WL) ?
I wonder that she is this sphere that he carries in his hands....
Heyo, so... I found these three lore collection documents in my drive and I'm wondering if anyone wants them or if I can post them here???
I'm not sure why they were removed from pins and it's probably for a good reason so I just want to check first
The first pin sort of touches on why the previous documents were unpinned: the channel's just meant for people to have fun with playing around with different interpretations, and the pinned documents were becoming a bit too much of a solidified focal point that made it harder for new people to just jump in and join the discussion
ye
so they removed the canon lore doc
since some people were a bit too serious with it
so ye
Emm guys.. I love the way that popular forest song have similar notes with the ending scene song in eden...(where the megabird start to shine and continue to the end with red candle)
That’s cool
There's a pattern in the music throughout the whole game actually!
Wow
Yeah, but by far the most interesting pattern is the similarities in the music for the social areas of Prairie and Forest
yee
I think I heard the pattern in the Sanctuary Islands as well
. I always love the versions from Valley and Isle too
It would make sense if they included the theme in Valley and Wasteland, and solidified it in the Prophecy Cave
Because it could reference the elements
But maybe it doesn’t 🤷♂️
Maybe it’s just for the parts that are hot tourist destinations
Is sky just a process of clouds
Yeah I kind of feel like they put a different version of the same melody throughout the whole game to make the music a journey as well
Yeah, there’s the “climbing” theme that is referenced in every main entrance and temple
Then there’s the orbit melody, and you can hear it throughout the game as well
Broo that's so cool
I've been browsing through the concept art and I liked how the arches to the areas went from 'primitive' to 'advanced'
What does the piggy 🐷 in dream village means ?
prolly bug or easter egg
I have a question not about in game lore but about something regarding skies development
so, i know that tgc may not be able to have a journey season because of the other company that partialy owns journey
but in sky light awaits (the beta) there was a journey costume
did that cause any issues with the other company since they removed that in sky children of the light?
not sure
🔽🔽
Like this?
yes, and the white cape in that album too
OMG, I WANT THEM BACK
theory, peeking postman is from journey
kinds same
I upvote
lmao, the journey costume looks weird on the skid
maybe cause the head is super small
I mean,
they have a journey mask
E
that costume was only available for a very limited time, and afaik wasn't availble for most of S:LA's development. and yeah, it very likely has to do with copyright and TGC not owning the rights to journey
I hope it was cut only because tgc realized that they could get sued and not from the other company threatening to sue them, also, what do u mean by afaik?
Edit: i looked it up
i doubt sony threatened to sue. i'd imagine they mightve just gotten a copyright claim from them and removed it
cause if tgc was just taking a precaution, there's a chance the other company may let them incorporate journey into sky in some way
i think thats more hassle than its worth
and tgc has stated before journey and sky are separate
They have stated that they dont know wether they can make a journey season or spirit or whatever because of the partial ownership, from what i remember
and, afaik, it could be as simple as a discussion with the other company, i dont know much about copyright laws and whatnot
copyright is messy, but basically sony owns the rights to journey and so tgc would have to ask them for legal permission to make official journey content in sky
I know this is even less related to lore, but it fits in with this conversation
I think they should have a pinned message in the wishlist explaining why they may not be able to do anything with journey in sky
ok
so, from the ending where we, as a dark child, hug the wl we can see that the darkness isnt bad and neither is the light
also
from the 4 statues in the second level of eden (btw whats that level called) we see two statues covered in blue crystals and two without anything covering them
the two "clean" ones crumble when we get close
but we can use the other two as sheilds from the rock rain (not that effective but still works)
for the spirit statues and the statues in the last part of eden, they are covered in dark dust
im assuming that the blue crystals are naturally refined darkstone as they are blue like the power crystals
so it seems the darkness protects the spirits from being lost completely
the two statues with the blue crystals can not be saved, at least not yet, but the crystals seemed to have saved them from crumbling to dust and being completely lost
unlike the two "clean" statues

i want the fog at home back now
Do you guys have theories as to why, skykids eyes are closed when they're maskless. And eyes are open when they have their masks put on?
blinding
lemme go dig up their concept art hold on
it might just be somethin w the masks, like they have normal eyes (like
emotes) but can also go bright when masks are on because of how the masks work, or can go bright when needed
In truth, they have their eyes closed even with masks on, you can see this if u get the camera under the mask. But thats really just because of it being the same model and since its unintended to be able to see that, story wise, their eyes are probably open with masks on
oh, cool!! where did u find that?
a couple months ago TGC posted the concept art of sky for a few days on twitter
oh!
Hey lore buddies! :D Please, tell me
How does a manta eat?? How does it land?? How does ThatSkyScout know I’m vegetarian?
(This is mostly a joke but I wanna see if you guys have any answers)
My theory is they don’t need eyes, but they wear masks with eyes so they look “normal” and also, these masks were given by the Spirits that have eyes
Maybe they shoot laserbeams with their eyes
or just some blinding light like said before 
PARALLEL UNIVERSES IN SKY:
The islands we see from homespace look like our homespace
We are jumping through parallel universes
When we go see our friends in another homespace, it is a jump through universes
That's...a very interesting theory 
The only question now, is how we tie it to HBT
And Get Ready folks
It’s gonna be a doozy
the holy burrito makes many worlds, a show of power and to give us the idea of infinite possibilities
but also, the portals would have to be filled in on the other island
for the silouete to work
mabey
the closet could be what shows rather than the portals?
when we gonna talk bout the guacamole god?
People have actually been over to those distant islands in older builds of the game -- that's where the opening cutscene with the murals are stored
?
what murals?
im confused
the murals when opening sky for the first time?
entering isle?
Watch from 0:40 -- everything you see on-screen is actually being animated on those islands there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dNShWJ0jiY
ok
those murals are actually "happening" on those rocks
OH
THANK YOU!
i WOULD LOVE to reach that island!!
and of course its counterpart in the ship area of wasteland (not ark)
Links to some screenshots from when players managed to get over there back when it was still possible to glitch through the wind walls
#screenshots-and-videos message
#screenshots-and-videos message
#screenshots-and-videos message
No matter night or day, we see those clouds in homespace that separate us from our parallel universes. They dont move or change shape, as clouds are supposed to do. While they dont really move so much, the clouds in other realms do fluff up and billow.
This means that these clouds are special
A permanent fixture between temporal fields. We can access both endpoints, but not the space between.
It is a containment facility, but for what?
Well, we know that altho the Holy Burrito led to the downfall of the King, we also know that somehow the Burrito is now gone and the Megabird is once again on top.
Something happened. As of right now, we do not know what, but something happened between Megabird and Holy Burrito.
Unfortunately, Megabird won, but the Holy Burrito cannot simply be disposed of—they are too powerful! Without the Holy Burrito, sky kids (the pets of the Megabird, forced to the slaughtering floor every week, in Eden—almost like the Hunger Games, a penance for a crime long gone) cannot exist.
As such, the Holy Burrito is contained in those “clouds”.
This also explains why skykids all, at some point or another, unconsciously attempt to reach those clouds, so that we can once again meet our beloved.
As sky kids, it is our solemn duty to one day reach those “clouds” and free our Holy Burrito.
im assuming they stopped that for new players to have the right experience?
I think they stopped it because glitching through wind walls was causing a lot of issues and probably wasn't intended to begin with, but people managed to find a way
Blasphemy
personally, i think that their should be an option to see players that went out of bounds in cutscenes, after the first eden run this option becomes available that way we get to oob into those areas and not disrupt he experience for people
taco tuesday?
For eating, not for worshipping
the burrito saw fit to make lesser beings of great power to control the skies even when the holiness of the burrito got sealed away in the tin foil prison of freshness
salsa spirits
im here to mope, wats poppin
🌯
imma copy and paste my message from earlier since we didnt really discuss it, to my knowledge
oh, ok then... have a great day
ok
so, from the ending where we, as a dark child, hug the wl we can see that the darkness isnt bad and neither is the light
also
from the 4 statues in the second level of eden (btw whats that level called) we see two statues covered in blue crystals and two without anything covering them
the two "clean" ones crumble when we get close
but we can use the other two as sheilds from the rock rain (not that effective but still works)
for the spirit statues and the statues in the last part of eden, they are covered in dark dust
im assuming that the blue crystals are naturally refined darkstone as they are blue like the power crystals
so it seems the darkness protects the spirits from being lost completely
the two statues with the blue crystals can not be saved, at least not yet, but the crystals seemed to have saved them from crumbling to dust and being completely lost
unlike the two "clean" statues
Join uuuuuus
ur trying to make the whole burrito thing a meme in this lore chat, arent u?
I want religious immunity, and to one day wield my power to force tgc to bring back lost items such as the Holy Burrito (and campfire)
BEGONE HEATHEN
what burrito?
😤
I do like this analysis, tho
do u mean the outfit glitch that crashed ios?
No, no the Holy Burrito, not the log
megan the megabirb
huh, who's that, @shut trellis?
lol
I guess the war was between valley and wasteland huh
Oh ||darn||
why waste and valley fight smh 

Or maybe both of valley and wasteland was fighting something...
Noooo
WHY

I've seen the crab on fire in gv but this is just strange
Whale, butterfly, krill??? And mantis
I understand this is sticker Yum " literally " or like * I'm eating * but I feel kinda surprised


Hey does anyone have the image for the real life size of a skykid?
Get in the car from office or some of the furnitures
Okay thanks
It depends on how tall you are chibi is like 2 feet tall?
Kinda want a live sized chibi skykid plush now
just read all of that and its perfect angst material 
Sky: Children of Angst
The praying acolyte area is especially fishy, why hide a whole room of graves there. Perhaps that's where they kept their uhh disposed subjects, if that's the case then that's actually really bad since the graves throughout the game have only been seen to have been used for ancestors meaning that they experimented on fellow ancestors..
Sometimes I think of that but maybe they just got corrupted by darkstone and died
But there's no sign of darkstone nor corruption in the vault
Not even in the "solid" lower areas
Hmm
You know maybe the next season is in vault and maybe tgc is gonna make a new area there I hope

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Wait... I'm the first one?????
for today, yes
Oh phew

Probably part of the shipment or something
Where is that exactly?
Shipwreck area,
Ohh thanks
spirit
Maybe it’s a mass grave from the war? that’s kinda dark, thanks brain
prolly the grave of the people that died in the ship
theory: forest elder eats kidnaps moffs
proof: forest elder hair uses a lot of moff hair ties /j

prolly kidnapped the moffs to do her hairdo
~~or she just has leftover hair ties after eating the moffs so she decided to use them
~~
Or maybe she just stole the hair ties from the other elders 
Huh
did i just see an autodeleted message? 
Yes, I think it’s cause I used a word that involves eating your own kind, in reference to Forest mama eating moths
That would be pretty meta
Of course it is
No, no it’s fine
It really is, one book I referenced when writing stories is that that plot twist is taboo

tho the author used it themselves at one point
Sorry I got the chat off topic didn’t I lol
Yeah so uhm
Uh huh
I actually have to go now, happy lore discussing 
and then after that "moth" was scared awake she refused to believe it was a dream and she was seen as a lunatic but then one day after she was bullied and hid in somewhere and she found an actual portal to sky 
yes
hmm
so.....why are there exactly 63 statues in eden? is the number special in any way?
tbh the number is kinda special to me but that doesn't matter
hmm
according to google:
The number 63 symbolizes humanitarianism, harmony, balance, tolerance, idealism and family. ... Being a blend of the numbers 9, 6 and 3, this number signifies philanthropy, optimism and healing. It is also a number which symbolizes family, compassion and creativity as well as self – expression.
:0
or maybe a better question: why did the sky world go downhill at forest but uphill again at valley and then at wasteland everything went downhill again except death amounts
prolly cause
(i'm thinking about this as in the different realms also being in different time periods)
I think Valley was like
not a battlefield, nor factory
and Valley seemed like the land
where a lot of people are happy
and uh
yknow
light
can't explain
lmao
or maybe it was just TOO happy....that any "small" issue would be argued about.....and the valley twins kinda started the wasteland war
i even think that
is

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I personally think it's because they protected valley
I mean, canonically
Valley and GW used to be one (Golden Valley)
that means, GW elder and twins
uh
perhaps
protected Valley?
I just realized that shipwreck area is a seashore lol
lol
oh wow going mr detective over here, genuinely intrigued
didnt know set of numbers had meaning so thats interesting
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
thought tgc just like odd numbers
but then again, maybe thats just a coincidence and theres really no meaning to it other than them wanting us to have 15.75 ac per week instead of 16
but ye its quite plausible given that its also tgc

