lore-discussion-spoilers

[short owl]

I've noticed people struggle with thinking about time travel...

[distant turtle]

skykidheight website and yes they used a photo of something in the office with a real measurement and then estimated the cabinet height and player height

I agree with the possibility that time in the Sky realm is frozen or looping, like a bubble universe we repeatedly dive into to salvage light.

[distant turtle]

Like that Jake Gyllenhaal film

[primal sierra]

It feels like the presence of sky kids is making time move again tho

Little by little. It still loops but it's not looping in place like how it was before sky kids wreak havoc, if am makin sense

[kind musk]

Entity Krebby summoned correctly

What's up?

[old dove]

I think time is passing and that the realms are in the same place at the same time. The memories of the ancestors are not. There is a progression.
But the hole kingdom is still in ruins.
I mean, we don’t loose what we learned when we get reborn so I think time is still flowing. Dawn, sunset or night is just a stylistic pirouette to touch our feelings (like valley is all bright before the night comes).

[kind musk]

That's sounds interesting, can resume the topic, plesse?

[old dove]

How it looks like we are stuck in a loop and that time is frozen.

[limpid basin]

Yes but what if the Elder stones were inspired by Kurgan Stelae

[hushed steeple]

Nobody was saying it was canon. They just wanted to know if there was irl measurements of skid heights so I gave them whatever info there was in the past.

[hushed steeple]

Yeah I can see how they probably were.

[flint schooner]

That was precisely my point! I don't really know if the "moth" term was coined exclusively by players or if TGC threw any hint at it, but either way I love to think about that DS quote from a Sky point of view.

[short owl]

TGC did not coin players, they only recognise that we use it

japanese players call them sparrows

[flint schooner]

Calling them sparrows sounds adorable!

[primal sierra]

I have a theory why the Valley twins outfits don't change even tho they made contact with the light...

Maybe it's bc they were like-- Not as mature?

[hazy cliff]

They kinda more... pushed it around with their sticks

And almost didn’t have it at all *head pats *

[primal sierra]

They have teenager vibes tbh

[hushed steeple]

Ok I'm sticking to sparrows now because that sounds so good

[hushed steeple]

I think they seemed happier to make contact with the light. They also became more competitive.

[cunning parrot]

SKYBOT PFP: In the background I think there is an old sky cape, from back at the very beginning of sky, if you look really closely, it has the same design as this cape

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/575818672476782634/815668918336749628/image0.jpg

[pastel brook]

The next Traveling Spirit is scheduled to arrive on March 4 at 00:00 Pacific Time (UTC -8:00)
You can read how Traveling Spirits work here: http://bit.ly/TravelingSpirits

[hushed steeple]

@cunning parrot Yeah that's how capes used to look

[cunning parrot]

Also, I think they left in the old forest entrance from Sky: light awaits

(1st video isn’t mine)

Oops video didnt send correctly

[gleaming mango]

Has anyone wondered why only the Valley masks give you glowing blue eyes compared to other similar ones, which don’t?

[hushed steeple]

Probably just how the masks are tbh

Idk, what if there are some type of thin sheild over the masks to protect you from strong winds or bright snow

That would make sense yeah

[hushed steeple]

Also what the heck. That's an entrance to forest I don't have. I'm guessing maybe you're playing a version of Sky that's not global or something?

It was from a reeaally old version of sky i think

Oh wait nvm idek

[gleaming mango]

That makes sense!

[hushed steeple]

Lol

[gleaming mango]

Also, the Bowing Medalist mask is so underrated...

[hushed steeple]

@hushed steeple they sent the older sky then sent a present video of sky

Both with the same forest entrance

OOOHHH

[cold steppe]

No, that entrance is still in game if you fly out the roof of the Prairie Temple

[hushed steeple]

hehe

[hushed steeple]

Oh I never noticed

[cold steppe]

A friend took me there for the first time a few weeks ago!

[hushed steeple]

I always went straight through the entrance and never flew up or whatever

@cunning parrot how did you get up there anyways

[hushed steeple]

Idk if anyone has done this before but I’d thought I’d share, idk

Ah I see discord butchered the quality

[vague thorn]

That looks cool

I always think that the kids in eden we are saving are us who died there last week

The whole world seems to be in some kind of limbo

[rapid juniper]

The kids in eden are the past generation skids

[vague thorn]

Omg its oreo

[torn valley]

okay quick question but is there any speculation as to why theres tombstones in the flying race area? ig it could be to like commemorate past champions and stuff but idk i thought it was weird

[graceful osprey]

there was one theory which was that those were graves of the people who have died in gladiator fights or other violent sports

[torn valley]

aah okay, i thought yknow cause they had gold bits that they were probably people of high importance , but yeah that sounds interesting and makes sense too lol

[hushed steeple]

I like both of those theories

Valley of triumph reminds me of Ancient Rome too, and Ancient Rome was really big on competitions like gladiator fights, so

[gray rivet]

There’s actually another area in the vault that seems to be a literal graveyard. It’s where the blue cape spirit is through the 4 player door at the bottom of the lift

Unless they just look like grave stones and are actually something else. I haven’t looked at that area in a long time with my lantern. Would be interesting to check it out

[queen locust]

I think you're on to something actually- because the spirit taking up residence there is named the 'Praying Acolyte'

[torn valley]

yeah that whole spirit is about praying and taking care of graves and stuff its def one of the sad boi trio

[queen locust]

asjkajsk who're these two other members of the sad boi trio XD

[gray rivet]

There are 11 in total including the broken ones

[torn valley]

crying lightminer and the faint dude heh
sad boi hours the three of em

[teal orbit]

contact.... with the light?
pls elaborate

[gray rivet]

It’s always been an interesting spot. The spirit itself seems to be growing some bioluminescent fungi on the little island he sits on and there are these WEIRD bright blue glowing orbs that appear and disappear all through the room

[teal orbit]

hmmm in that case, wuts with the gw masks?
ooooh maybe those are gi so they be crappy lmao
and the valley masks are expensive pro stuff so theres that

[gray rivet]

It’s also sealed behind those enormous blast type doors as if the spirit sealed himself inside before the catastrophe that destroyed the life forms we call spirits now

[teal orbit]

la

[teal orbit]

well we dont know that
perhaps you are refering to the skid gen theory?

[rapid juniper]

Ye

[teal orbit]

yeah yeah and greece too and the olympics

wearing military helmets in races n stuff

[hushed steeple]

Yeah exactly

[teal orbit]

that is a mere theory thats prolly not canon lol

we cant e sure its a 100% right

it IS a possibility yes

but not the only one

[gilded spoke]

the season of assembly is connected to belonging
just like dreams is connected to belonging

[tall mountain]

Okay headcanon going off of this one, so Castor and Pollux are two twins who were venerated as patron gods of travelers and athletes, and especially races and stuff. And the Valley constellation looks kinda like if you took Gemini and crossed it to me? So IDK, I kinda just see the two Valley elders as reflecting Castor and Pollux. Not exactly headcanon and just my own personal noting of connection, do with that whatever you will.

[teal orbit]

oh i see

that is an interesting and creative theory

a bit confusion on my part tho

oh wait nvm

[tall mountain]

It's not exactly terribly relevant to the conversation or really anything that one can make much out of with theories, I just wanted to join in the discussion. Sorry, carry on.

[teal orbit]

its a cool theory lmao

a possible influence for valley

[tall mountain]

And people, like, also looked to them for favorable winds when travelling, which kinda makes sense looking at Sky as a whole and then also the whole wind tunnel afterwards.

[teal orbit]

oh i see

the paths in an outta valley are wind tunnels lmao

i just realized that

[rapid juniper]

Well i realized that all seasons came in the same time

[rapid juniper]

Drams isn’t connected to belonging only one spirit was there

Idk about the QG tho

[pseudo heart]

Like.. happening simultaneously?

[gilded spoke]

wait i meant rhythm wait

my typing can be weird

[rapid juniper]

One spirit was alos there same with lightseekers and gratitude

[hallow fiber]

Hello!

What are the most popular theories around here? It's the first time I talk here lol

[vague thorn]

Love the gemini theory

[queen locust]

Welcome! we have a lot of theories that we're proud of in this chat, and while it'd take a while to list them all, I could suggest a document that has a lot of recurring theories recorded in them if you like?

[hallow fiber]

If it's the "hello new lore moff" I just read it! But if you have more I would love to read them all

[teal orbit]

what abt proph?

[tough vector]

Not exactly a theory, but

[queen locust]

Oh it isn't, but I'm glad you've read the doc! Here's one more https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/1-SOY_5WrhQ2ftVZEM9VMBsz92-n_53kBzQoHKmY2-24/edit

[teal orbit]

lightseekers and ench were prolly:
lightseekers THEN ench

[teal orbit]

yup
thats left over from old beta

[hallow fiber]

Thank you! I'll be off to read : D

[teal orbit]

theory vault?

[queen locust]

You're welcome, happy reading!

That's what I sent Pyre lmao

[teal orbit]

lol

[hallow fiber]

btw do the elders have official names now?

[teal orbit]

no

ayin ==> prairie elder

teth ==> forest elder

and so on

ik
its long

[teal orbit]

im confused

i mean its all up to u

think what you want

but the season of lightseekers is abt finding the lights and the season of enchantment is about using those light and putting elements into them

the season of prophecy is about how the kingdom came to be

so im not rlly understanding how they are all supposed to be happening simultaniously

pls enlighten me

[rapid juniper]

Ah what happend

[rapid juniper]

They all came in the same time ye I’m not good with English

[teal orbit]

but proph is set in a time before the sky kingdom no?

[rapid juniper]

I think prophecy is set in a time after the sky kingdom was made eh I’m really confused so

[teal orbit]

oh ok

u do u

i personally think that proph is the story of how the prince became the king

with all the trials

and the coronation on toppa eden yknow

ye....

but u do u

[vague thorn]

Does anyone think of the prince as the first sky kid that fell to earth?

[teal orbit]

well if u look at the opening cutscene real hard

[dreamy pond]

Well during prophecy we can see spirits that resemble younger versions of ones across the land of Sky

[teal orbit]

we are all bits and pieces of the prince

at least thats what it lookslike lol

[teal orbit]

but ppl can look similar
see most of the spirits we save are normal civilians
soooo yeah

[dreamy pond]

Yeah, it might just simply be popular/ practical hairstyles.

[teal orbit]

ye

[dreamy pond]

shakes stick at megabird Why must you be so confusing

[vague thorn]

Sorry I'm a moth... Can anyone tell me what is this supposed to be?

[pastel brook]

A "moth" is a new player. They have brown wings, they flap around uncontrollably, and they are drawn to flame!

[dreamy pond]

I believe it’s just a glitch. This mural can be seen properly in the Prophecy cave

[vague thorn]

Thank you

[dreamy pond]

Your welcome

[hexed zenith]

oh yeah prophecy cave is very lore-heavy I recommend standing on all the flying rocks and taking a good look at the murals

anyways I think the momentary blue glow from when a skykid flies is their soul you can see it when a skykid dies in pnr and their light in trial of fire

[vague thorn]

I kinda screenshoted all of them lmao

[teal orbit]

issa bug ignore it

[teal orbit]

pic plz

[vague thorn]

Maybee this

Looks like its the 'prince' and all the elders

[dreamy pond]

Sorry it took awhile, also thx chocolate muffins!

[teal orbit]

oh that mural

[dreamy pond]

Yeah, for some reason I’m missing the main but

[bitter shale]

ya still can complete it even after the season end btw

[hallow fiber]

WOah, so much information to read... I still don't understand the king/prince lore, who are they?

[teal orbit]

light the lamps dud

[teal orbit]

the king is the ruler of the kingdom
his seat is eden
hes shrouded in mystery
prolly we r pieces of the king

the prince is either the same person but before he was crowned

or smth like that

[hushed steeple]

One thing cofuses me though. How come the Isle elder isn't depicted on the doorway of the final realm?

[teal orbit]

he was either banished

or smth like that

[bitter shale]

Thats... Still up to debate tbh

[teal orbit]

or smth like that

[hallow fiber]

Maybe he wasn't considered a "true" Elder

[bitter shale]

He is either not counted as an elder by the other... Or banishing reason

[teal orbit]

maybe that too

[teal orbit]

ye

[vague thorn]

My head cannon is just that he did his part and that is led people into the world of sky and didn't live long enough to see that world grow

[bitter shale]

Also prye welcome back, long time no see

[hushed steeple]

Then there's only one thing left unsolved. Who is the Elder of the final realm before it fell into chaos?

[bitter shale]

Eden Elder

[hallow fiber]

Maybe the king? The "elder who can't be saved"?

[bitter shale]

Tbh its makes sense if the prince was the king before his coronation

...uh more like, what if the Prince was the original Child of Light before us? A direct descendant from the Light itself, sent to unite the sky people and protect them from the darkness

Iirc Children of Light were called as Descendant too

Majority would think they were descendant from the ancestors

But what if, instead of the ancestors we are descendant from the Light?

[vague thorn]

Yeah i like to think that he is the og sky kid

[rapid juniper]

He’s prolly the first skid

[vague thorn]

But the stars fell and made home in the clouds.. So he wasn't the only one

[rapid juniper]

Who else would it be?

[rapid juniper]

What you mean

[vague thorn]

The opening cutscene. I'm not sure how it goes word for word

[hallow fiber]

Btw, have you thought about translating the documents to other languages? So people with low English level can read them too!

[teal orbit]

ikr?
hooooo 1 month ban lmao

[rapid juniper]

Wait you’ve been banned

[teal orbit]

just a related quote:

all creatues are born from the light and connected to the light. it is their origin and smthsmth i forgot the rest lmao

[teal orbit]

yes

[bitter shale]

Wait

What

I legit didnt know you got banned-

[rapid juniper]

I am really confused so everything came from teh light and then at isle we see people collecting stars that fell and those are the spirits if the spirits are stars then snijnjjnfvjhhwrfivijfrvwbojdshfvbojusvrhjfuv

They could be collecting skids tho

[teal orbit]

1 month lol

[rapid juniper]

Ah that’s long

[teal orbit]

another possibly related quote:

skids are a new generation

[dreamy pond]

Ok I don’t have a picture right now but doesn’t what usually is here look a lot like when skids get a new wing buff, specifically the circles around the figure.

Well one that actually has it, im gonna report it in a minute

[vague thorn]

My head cannon is that the stars in isle are skids.. Unless everyone is a skid??

[rapid juniper]

Yea sometimes I think of that

[tall epoch]

hmm are 'skids' a short form for skykids or something else? New to the lore channel so ;; pardon me

[hushed steeple]

We both have the same thoughts

[rapid juniper]

Since I believe in the new skid gen theory thing

[vague thorn]

Also the circle looks like the journey to orbit

[tough vector]

My theory for why the elders are trapped is that they went to the king together, to talk to the king about how he had been cutting off supply chains going out from Eden (which is where capes were made—again, just a headcanon and is why almost no spirits have capes), and discovered that he’d been using the light and resources to get back to Orbit using power diamond technology. The other elders didn’t agree with this, since they had finally found peace in their respective kingdoms and were happy, living with the ancestors of the realms. The king decided that to go through with his plan, he had to find a way to keep the elders in their respective realms. So he took each to their realms, and locked them away there. He cursed the isle elder to become blind, he broke the bells needed to summon light creatures and leave prairie, he sent the dark rain to the forest, he isolated the valley elders, he corrupted the krills in golden wasteland, and he broke vault’s power diamond, trapping everyone there. Each elder migrated to their temple for different reasons. Isle elder because it would be easier for him to navigate his surroundings, prairie elder because they had lost their energy and motivation, forest elder to seek refuge from the painful rain, (the valley elders’ temple is the stadium so they just sat there and got bored of competing against each other), the wasteland elder had to escape the krills, and the vault elder was still trapped. However, after all the ancestors died, a new species came to the world. They weren’t exactly skykids, but they were similar, made purely of light. They were weightless, and didn’t need capes to fly, but they were also timid, and needed instruction from spirits. They crafted the home space to be safe in, but were soon called back to the realms by the spirits. Megabird didn’t want this, as they never meant for this new race to become servants, so they rooted the winged lights to where they stood, promising a return to orbit someday.

That went wayyyyy off topic

[rapid juniper]

The theory is really cool

[teal orbit]

spirits have capes
they just dont have wl

[tough vector]

Still, capes could’ve worked differently for them, since there was more light in the kingdoms

[vague thorn]

Ooooohhh i never thought about the king doing everything on purpose. I like that!!

[teal orbit]

yes possibly

[hushed steeple]

Do you think the king in the theory could be...

[tough vector]

I like to think that the elders were just chillin, finding fulfillment in their realms, and then the king is just going insane tryna get back to orbit

[vague thorn]

They are wondering why is the economy failing so they go see what's the king been up to

[primal sierra]

Idk if I'm making sense but whenever the other elders touch the sky kid's light, their clothes change. The twins' didn't and they don't rly show much changes aside from being extra active once their spatulas touch it-

[teal orbit]

spatula lmao

[teal orbit]

oh yeah they are being restored to their former glory i think

the valley elders are simple

they dont have cool stuff

no shiny things

so thats why ig

[primal sierra]

They're funny, but also a little sad in perspective

They're these funky, youthful teenagers/young adults stuck in limbo while the land they're supposed to govern over is kinda stuck in a time loop

[rapid juniper]

But the elders could be dead because of teh eden explosion idk if some of you heard of that theory it’s just the first time I see some you message hear

[vague thorn]

Probably most/some of them died in the actual catastrophe connected to eden

[rapid juniper]

Well all of them died

[vague thorn]

Well they are dead

[rapid juniper]

Ye

So you’ve heard about that theory?

[vague thorn]

I just don't think all of the spirits we see died at the same time, however my head cannon is still evolving as I am a moth

If there is more to the theory then just boom dead

Then no

[rapid juniper]

Well its kinda wierd if the spirits died at the same time

[distant turtle]

I think so yes

[distant turtle]

What tells me it wasn't all at the same time is stealthy survivor

[vague thorn]

I just haven't wrapped my head around the origin of krills

Yeah we can def see them struggling through the aftermath of the catastrophe

[queen locust]

I dunno, I can't imagine that the krill of all things would struggle in a time like that- at least, that's how I see it

[teal orbit]

we dont know if its a time loop

honestly, whats most sad is

those vault scholars melting

like literally cooking inside vault

sad

also this

[somber aspen]

Oh my

[rapid juniper]

The vault scholars melted!?

[teal orbit]

prolly

[rapid juniper]

Sad

[teal orbit]

think dresden

yeah

[somber aspen]

That is scary

[gray timber]

Oh goodness-\

[wicked plover]

||Dresden bombing?||

[teal orbit]

yes

that

[somber aspen]

The lore of this game is starting to remind me of the story of Atlantis

[gray rivet]

I always saw krill as part of the technology or a product of the catastrophe that ended the civilization prior to the sky kids

[wicked plover]

Lost civilizations

[gray rivet]

Maybe like an ai/biological weapon gone wrong. This would help explain gw elder and the battlefield

[somber aspen]

Yes

[gray rivet]

There was clearly a last stand against the krill there. Atleast that’s the way I see it

[somber aspen]

Looks like it

[teal orbit]

also eden boom

also as far as i can tell, gw war was right before eden boom

cuz the battlefields havent been looted

[short owl]

A good ghost story can also prevent a looting though

Also, most things that are useful when you're not at war but instead trying to survive are missing... so how do we know GW wasn't looted?

[wicked plover]

3 day survival packs are nowhere to be seen, do these spirits before just not need sustenance other than fire and light

[sweet mural]

does anyone have like a picture of the sky lore timeline

[normal berry]

Should be in the pins I believe

[hushed steeple]

@sweet mural This might be what you're looking for. Note that it's just concept art tho.

[jade river]

Theory time: all spirits that are children died at a young age

[crimson sorrel]

When is days of bloom gonna come

I want dat hair

[teal orbit]

o...k....

but then why do they look like adults?

and why do some look like children?

[jade river]

Ok to begin with that was a meme on general chat we are discussing spirit's deaths and someone said all children spirits die at a young age which is hillarious

In a summary im joking

[cunning parrot]

Oh no, im playing the same sky you play, its just tnot the same entrance, im at a different one

[hushed steeple]

How did you get up there

[short owl]

Oh yeah I know that one. Out a window I believe?

[hushed steeple]

:D?

[short owl]

When you leave Prarie Shrine, don't go the obvious way

[jade river]

Praire's temple, qith caution fly above into the entrance to forest, try not to trigger the change and you will reach fake forest

[hushed steeple]

Oh ok thanks

[quiet crystal]

Question: Is the king is the only ruler of Sky? Or there’s no evidence on that?

[cold steppe]

There’s no evidence either proving or disproving that. There’s theories that the elders rule over their respective realm under the king, or even without the king. It’s left to your interpretation!

At least, nothing yet

[gray timber]

[hushed steeple]

Fake forest? You mean...

[wheat cypress]

I wonder if the spirits had some sort of cultural religion

Traditions and whatnot

And how much fun it would be to dig those up and recreate a Sky kid version of it

I mean like how cool would it be if Sky kids had their own social and religious culture, our own rituals and traditions, sayings, I'm sure its there, we just gotta dig for it

Proverbs, writings, etc.

Not necessarily religious, but ya know how many people celebrate Christmas, and they're not Christian?

Or how lots of people meditate, even though they are not Buddhist?

Like more of a cultural and tradition based religion rather than like, deity based

I just feel like it would be so cool if we had not just a culture but also traditions and holidays

And we don't need to make it up! We can observe the spirits memories and see if they already had something similar

Welp ping me if you're responding to this cuz it's so empty in here imma go 🙃

[teal orbit]

WORSHIP MEGABIRD YEEEAAAAAHHHHHH

[wicked plover]

||Ooga booga runs in circles around a well||

[gray timber]

mememmememmememeehghagaggagagagga bbbfhbubibubigibigibigibigibgb

[rapid juniper]

Uh do you mean the old design of forest from light awaits

[rapid juniper]

This is lore chat mate you can go to #questions-and-help

[graceful osprey]

actually I think that this mural was not shown at all. It could be predicting the fall of the King and the Kingdom, and darkness taken over. It is incomplete so we don't know

[teal orbit]

its a bug

[graceful osprey]

I dont think the King would have physically went out to destroy everything himself, so I can just imagine him sniping everything with a giant laser from his eyes while he just stands in his palace.

[graceful osprey]

but why would it have been drawn/created in the first place?

[teal orbit]

idk

ask the devs lol

[graceful osprey]

scary

lol

[teal orbit]

or eden boom

[graceful osprey]

how many times have you sent that gif

[teal orbit]

a LOT

lmao

[graceful osprey]

it could ve been as well

[cold flax]

Just a thought ;; regarding season of assembly ,
It revolves around children spirits who would build a treehouse , my own theory is that the treehouse that these children spirit build can symbolize their childhood,inner child of them being kept away in the treehouse, away from “society” like how in modern society, our inner child was hardly ever shown.it was always kept deep inside us , especially as we grow older. Our inner child hardly ever shows anymore due to the fear of mockery,immaturity etc whatever reason so maybe the treehouse symbolizes that the children spirits built it together to keep their childhood and inner child, memories in that treehouse , far away from the outside world

[bitter shale]

Is it just me or does skykid regular mask got the same shape with the elder mask

O-O

[teal orbit]

prolly

[boreal nebula]

[teal orbit]

tebkanlo!!!!!

eyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[livid valley]

There is already a new season and has a name already?

[graceful osprey]

yeah...

[pseudo heart]

Yep

[livid valley]

Oh man

Time to get myself a name again

[teal orbit]

meows assemble
assembeow
meowbly
meseembly
assow

i personally am rooting for the last one

smh reminds me of sparrow

no other reason

[wild iron]

Are the spirits who appear in during the ascendence the spirits who we bought a wing buff from?

[teal orbit]

yup

[onyx meteor]

Hello Lore channel, any theories on where these doors lead?

My only assumption is that maybe they led to other realms

[velvet berry]

My guess was the temple having been a stronghold at one point, probably stuff like armories, barracks, and war planning rooms... pretty standard stuff. NGL, them holding realm gates sounds much more interesting 😅

[onyx meteor]

If I could, I would add more lighting to this war room/stronghold, or else my army and I will be squinting at our maps 🤣

[velvet berry]

thinks back to all the times I’ve bumbled into a wall while flying Yeah, some lanterns would help a LOT 😂

[wicked plover]

Firework staff but that only lasts seconds

[tough vector]

I think the separate questgivers are the

[radiant venture]

w h a t

[tough vector]

There’s only one of each

You see them when you go through home

[radiant venture]

why the reactions.

[tough vector]

I couldn’t type the word

[radiant venture]

its censored

[tough vector]

Oh

Whoops

[radiant venture]

eh unreact, i guess

[lucid silo]

bro unreact before a mod shows up

or you will be warned again

[tough vector]

Oh shoot

[lucid silo]

[tough vector]

There

[lucid silo]

thank u

[tough vector]

Thank you

[lucid silo]

if you say a word that is deleted immediately, and you dont agree that it should be deleted, maybe contact thathelpbot?

[short owl]

Thathelpbot is probably thw wrong place. That goes to the devs rather than the mods

[lethal stump]

if you have discord problems go to #contact-the-mods

if you disagree with a censored term, need to report someone for toxic server behaviour, etc

[distant turtle]

Let's talk about the opening act of the game, from a lore perspective

Does your character perceive the intro cutscene?

Is the Home island a construct of the one who sent you from the sky to land there?

Is the platform on which you land decorated with wings to represent you, the player? It's not a bird, just wings.

[tough vector]

Here’s a really depressing theory: each realm is actually the same one, and the elder just switches. Isle is desolate and empty until the new elder finds a way to heal it with the lights. Trees grow. The elder after that cuts down the trees and sort of industrializes the area. Now that the trees are gone, more rain comes down and the river floods, turning the whole area into a valley. Snow falls, and the two new elders turn it into a sprawling city. The effects of the city slowly take a toll on the land, and by the time the next elder steps forwards, huge fortresses have to be constructed because the previously light creatures have become corrupted. Finally, when the wasteland is unlivable, the last elder builds a huge tower to keep the small amount of ancestors safe, where the race eventually goes extinct. Our skid is being told a story by the elders’ memories, and their unlit behaviors and appearance are a clue as to what they know they did wrong

[distant turtle]

Or, is the Home island merely a tool to link story and gameplay, and if Sky were not a game, the protagonist might simply land in Isle instead.

[distant turtle]

I agree with some this, except I see the realms as evidence of the migration of their society over time, as their population grew and civilization developed.

[obsidian acorn]

wait

[tough vector]

The isle elder’s mask is broken because they lacked foresight.
The prairie elder is asleep because they were too tired to properly oversee how their kingdom was changing.
The forest elder can’t fix their diamond because they can’t find a way to fix their kingdom.
The valley elders have become stagnant and less connected because they were unable to stop the effects their city had on the world.
The wasteland elder can’t seem to fight because they already know all is lost.
The vault elder sits in darkness because they will never be able to see the former kingdom in all its glory.

[tough vector]

When your skid lights the elders, they are able to come to terms with their mistakes, and can finally find peace.

[short owl]

... Wow we really enjoy dark theories

[onyx meteor]

Wow, that’s such an interesting theory! I can really picture that in a set of images 🤔

[velvet berry]

I’ve always imagined Home being just game mechanics, tbh. But the opening cutscene has some interesting possibilities! What if it’s Megabird telling us what to do, and it’s like a vision/dream that every skykid has when they’re born... 👀

[magic gull]

Also the cut scene when we enter in isle ,its also very mysterious

[velvet berry]

That cutscene has SO MANY lore possibilities... I say it’s Megabird in-game because it’s not the elders talking, I don’t think, and I can’t think of anyone else it could be

Plus we can’t actually visit those murals/island, so that kinda seems like a dream or vision we have to me

[tough vector]

Technically you can but you’ll do the spin spin because windwall

You have to visit with a table

[velvet berry]

On today’s list... grab one of my table friends 😂

Gotta go examine those murals for some LORE

[distant turtle]

Because of the word "they", it kind of rules out everyone except Megabird

well of course, and Oreo. Oreo is the key to all of this.

[tough vector]

Yes

[mossy bay]

Quote from the season of assembly teaser: “Each spirit this season is individually related to the realm Ancestors of Sky – with their theme and items a reflection of their personalities.”

The child in the middle of the picture the one wearing the pot on their head and the long cape that grazes the ground, do you think there is a slight possibility that this is a depiction of the Eden elder / king? The pot representing the crown and the long cape mimicking the same ominous figure?

A bit of a long shot haha

[tough vector]

It could be

I like to think that the ones on the side are the valley twins and the middle one is forest because of the egg hat

[distant turtle]

I hope so. I'm hoping it's a subtle sequel to season of prophecy.

[mossy bay]

Ohhh i forgot about the twins haha thats true, if two spirits are used to depict the valley twins then i can throw my idea away lol, i hope we will learn more about need in general soon

[tough vector]

I like both tbh

[mossy bay]

Definitely a possibility season of prophecy seemed very serious though, this season seems very lax. I’m not sure if they’d be able to create a meaningful correlation between completing deadly trials and building a children’s tree house though

[cold badge]

We can agree that the spirits, being spirits, are dead right? Oh geez assembly got a lot darker really fast

[split sleet]

How is their cutscene “stagnant” though?

Valley elders I mean

[real tendon]

Looking through theories to try to figure out how the storm happened and I found this theory that I really like

[tough vector]

No I mean they just aren’t doing anything at the beginning of the cutscene and are ready to just take the light, and then spike boi is like, ‘wait, I want it,’ and initiates the spark of competition, which wasn’t there before because they had nothing to compete with each other for.

[distant turtle]

Building a tree house, building a kingdom... This season might be like a children's fable form of lore, like a nursery rhyme. There's one spirit we have less info about, but each of the 6 others represent a realm.
Since there is a hat that could be a childlike version of a crown, and a golden cape, it leads me to wonder if the central figure represents the Prince.

Of course I could be way off and the middle spirit could be Prairie kid with a pot on his head and a butterfly cape. But if the kids don't represent elders, why would we expect two from Valley?

[flint schooner]

Regarding the Golden Wasteland Elder I have a personal theory (that maybe has alredy been pointed so, if that's the case, I'm sorry!):

I ofter wondered about the "meaning" behind the game mechanic in the battlefield (the switch itself).
What is that mechanic telling us? It is obvious that from the moment the switch is lit/the gates are opened AND closed, we are "dooming" all those behind us, leaving them to the krills.

I think we can easily extract a story from such a mechanic, specially if we compare the different cutscenes from Sky: The Light Awaits and Sky: CotL:

In the first one you meet the GW Elder right AT the switch before entering the fortress, and they open the gate for you, being super valiant and staying behind to fend off the krills while you escape.
BUT
In Sky CotL, we find the GW Elder BEHIND the doors, broken and depressed. I think the reason why they can't seem to fight is because they know all is lost indeed BUT ALSO (and specially) because they LEFT BEHIND those who couldn't reach the gates on time, and remorse is killing them.

[short owl]

EXCUSE ME I WAS USING THAT HEART

[vague thorn]

Oh wow love that

[flint schooner]

HAHAHAHA! Sky seems quite well thought from a game-mechanics-point-of-view (in the way they serve The Lore), and I really REALLY doubt that mechanic in the battlefield is just a coincidence.

Adding to my point, TGC has stated the GW is kinda meant to represent too a "midlife crisis", and I think that fits pretty well the narrative of "oh, all those things/people that I left behind, oh, I regret it so much".

[vague thorn]

Regarding the season of assembly, the kids represent the realms and could be from those realms.. So there doesn't have to be two spirits representing two twins.. Which could mean that one of them represents eden or is the citizen of eden. In conclusion I can't wait🤗

[split sleet]

Don’t they literally just fall from the sky? Like there’s no camera pan to them looking at the skid going “ yo something to do finally”

Obvs things can be implied

I just didn’t get the feeling that that is what was implied

[hushed steeple]

Uh does anybody have the cannon lore doc link

[distant turtle]

Valley Elders have pristine cricket bats and no light with which to play ball for XX years

[livid coral]

i don’t think it works like that. seasonal spirits has always been representing a realm even when a season took place in a specific realm
in the past seasons the spirits were split up in realms so it was easy to tell which represents where
(if you noticed the emotes are in the order of realms too so if a season takes a place in a realm you can still tell which one represents which realm by their place)

[hushed steeple]

Um uhi have this theory about the skykids and the King

Here

Backgrpund info: at some point, all elders were stars in the sky with infinite light, but then they fell and had to make a home in the sky world, heres how it didnt work out well..

Your player is a reincarnation of the eden elder. the wl we get in game is from the King's body (when the eden elder died, they turned half of their body into winged light so we can survive in the sky world) so therefore we are partially eden elder. But, what if the memories also transferred over? Which gives us the opening scene, Its all just a flashback, so when you start the game, u are using edens memories to guide you through. The eden elder died, so to keep on living and attempt to bring back "the fallen stars" they took the skykid form.
So basically eden split themselves in half, one half is wl and the other is the actual skykid. So, when you collect all wl and lose it in eden, Your skykid form (black being) and your wl form (white being) can finally meet physically and you become eden in orbit. AND ONCE YOU HAVE FINISHED THE CONSTELLATIONS YOU HAVE FINALLY BROUGHT THE FALLEN STARS HOME! Then, youu are reborn, back at square 1. It is a time loop, repeating itself over and over again, even if that time loop is simply the circle of life.

I have this one idea/hc that the eden elder always wanted to create a nee civilization in orbit, where there is unlimited light, but they are unable to because of the time loop.

[teal orbit]

Um ok

Its an creative and interesting theory

Um but im confused in some parts...

Especially the part where it says the eden elder split itself into many different wl

See....

If u go to eden

It says

"Return the light of the fallen"

And the only light we return there is to the statues

We give them wl

Which makes those statues the fallen

And the wl belonged to them in the first place

[teal orbit]

Plz explain :)

My brain is smol

So im easily confused by other theories

Ye...

So basically r u saying the eden elder belonged to the fallen?

Or r u saying the fallen are ALSO from the eeen elder

[shadow cedar]

Kind of ridiculous theory: The valley elders were once humans, and siblings. While playing some game (cricket, based on the bats) they were teleported into the sky kingdom through some sinkhole, or something.
If you’ve seen the vault elder scene, the valley elders are much shorter than most of the elders, prompting speculation about if they had a different origin than the others.

[teal orbit]

Hmm

Thats an interesting and creative theory

But im confused

[shadow cedar]

What would you like to know?

[teal orbit]

I remember the devs saying the sky world and the noemal human world were separate and i think they scratched the humanworld-skyworld concepts early in development

Again, this is just my confusion altho wut i said isnt wrong

Im in need of an explanation tho

[shadow cedar]

I didn’t really take into account what was already established within lore. This is just a weird theory I came up with one day

[teal orbit]

Oh. Ok

Well, as the mods say

Nothings established in the lore

Canon? Dev quotes? Eh we dont need those

Unless u want to use them

In which case i just told u abt them right up there :D

[shadow cedar]

🙂

[dreamy pond]

[teal orbit]

Haha u tried to send this: :)

[shadow cedar]

Yes, yes I did

[teal orbit]

Lmao

Ok time to backread and get confused by more theories

[dreamy pond]

Honestly mega bird could be a Uber sassy cockatoo for all we know

[teal orbit]

I think valley elders are one and the same, yet 2 deparate entities... so idk which of the 2 contradctory phrases they will use lol

[teal orbit]

I-

Sure

[kind musk]

Hello there guysss

[teal orbit]

Why not

Hello there krebby

[kind musk]

What's up?

[teal orbit]

[dreamy pond]

See nothings ever out of the question

[teal orbit]

Fliiip

[teal orbit]

Sure

I mean u r right

[kind musk]

Oh one day i saw a video where says that the Valley Elder may have multiple personality disorder

[teal orbit]

We could literally make a theory that says krill dont hunt skids lmao

[teal orbit]

Sure

[dreamy pond]

True, they just want hugs

[teal orbit]

Um like those who come behind us can still open the gates and come in...yknow

[kind musk]

I have to get used to your context of the word "sure"

[teal orbit]

Think of it as a yes

Nothing like sarcastic

At all

Oop i just realized that could sound sarcastic too

[teal orbit]

Without arms?
At like 80meters per hour?
Sure

[split sleet]

what

i don’t think that’s wot they were going for but okay

[flint schooner]

I know, luckyly enough they can do that! It would be horrible if they couldn't!

But from your playthrough perspective, if you open the gates and you leave someone behind, I feel the way the game presents everything is "they're done for" (with the rising and sudden falling of the door, with a very ominous sound).

[teal orbit]

Ok

Sure

Why not

[distant turtle]

They don't exactly hunt, they patrol, and their target isn't sky kids per se, they will attack mantas just as readily. Just kidding.

[distant turtle]

This is the only possibility actually

[distant turtle]

Yeah but the storytelling implication of others getting left behind is there

[distant turtle]

Like a hug from an electric eel

[haughty talon]

Is the entire area and the season of dreams actually occur in a dream/surreal place? 🤔

1. there's no Eden visible in the seasonal areas nor when the stadium 🏟 turns into disco floor for finale
2. the environment has a lot of super saturated surreal colors (pinks, purples and violets)
3. sun is massive, almost exaggerated like in a dream?
4. there's are no boats/broken buildings lying around like other realms(I mean it is not like it is in ruins) there are the flying boats/gondolas but those don't go with any of the existing boat murals we've seen so far
5. no life form (dark or light) of any kind

[flint schooner]

I really like this theory!
Obviously at some point during concept they tried to hint at some kind of link between your skykid and the king, and I think this insight is very clever!
Even when it was finally scrapped, looking at things from that point of view is very interesting!
But what if, rather than "the eden elder dying and splitting themselves", it was not something intentional, but something that happened from the very begining because of the "impact" when falling from the sky? Like an accident or something.
I always felt like the "dark" skykid was a part that belongs to the earth and the "light" skykid a part belonging to the skys...
I'll give it more thought, because the nature of the dark skykid and the light one is a topic that really intrigues me!

[urban ginkgo]

So I don’t really know how seasons fit in with the official lore to begin with, but people on insta were talking about how the skater from this season must’ve died young or something, and with the next season being all kids that has a very dark undertone that they also all died as kids or what is your take on it? It’s kinda sad when you think about it imo

[haughty talon]

Interesting. I assumed what we saw were slices of time in spirit memories and spirit themselves... Just because a spirit is old or young doesn't mean they necessarily died at that time

Unless they are haunting us 👻

[wind bone]

I don’t think that spirits being children means they’ve died young, like we have spirits that show up in other spirit memories too

I think it’s just supposed to be a significant memory

[tough vector]

Wait yes

[tough vector]

Yeah that is true but also its a cutscene because they wouldn’t really be floating lol
Also I love the idea of said camera pan existing I think that would be absolutely hilarious

[rapid juniper]

I also like that theory but what concept are you talking about with the king and skid

[teal orbit]

Im spirit memories, yes but if a spirit is like lost and has ti ve returned, doesnt that maen the dud died young?

[livid valley]

hm

[tulip dune]

What effect does the contaminated water of paramos have?

Sorry for English, it's not my native language

[lethal stump]

the ooze makes you lose light, that’s all we know, assuming you mean the stuff in the fifth realm

[tulip dune]

Yes, although I was also thinking about "corruption"

[lethal stump]

corruption as in the stuff we burn ?

[tulip dune]

Yes, although I would also add something like behavior change 🤔

[lethal stump]

wdym « behaviour change »

[tulip dune]

Yes yes

Maybe even aggressiveness 🤔

[teal orbit]

Aggressiveness is just forced carnivorous behavior by the dust
In the symbiosis theory

So um theres that

[teal orbit]

It buuurrrnssss aaaagghhg it burrnnss jkjk

[pastel brook]

Robots have feelings too!

[jade river]

Yes they do skybot has feelingz

[hushed steeple]

I love how you said it could possibly be a accident, i mean, who can predict themselves dying like that? So the idea that the King was split in half when they fell from the sky is quite plausible!

[hushed steeple]

I believe that the fallen in eden are spirits/skykids who died from the overwhelming darkness, not exactly the eden elder themself, i thought that you would just have to save those spirits from the darkness because the eye of eden was once their home. But what i didnt know was that the light could possibly belong to those spirits as well.

[rapid juniper]

Hte fallen in eden are skids

Its just a theory

[teal orbit]

Ok

[gilded spoke]

is beta spoilers allowed?

[tranquil patio]

Now I've been saying that the king probably got killed in eden, but now that I think about it, and looked at tom zhaos sky portfolio, The king is probably eden itself,,,

The king probably wanted too much power

I might elaborate on this later

[distant turtle]

No Definitely not

[gilded spoke]

ok i was about to spit major spoilers for next season

just a theory but no spoilers its for the poster all of the spirits are sky children

[flint schooner]

I found this folder that contains several concept images from Sky (I think I saw them somewhere else too, but I can't find the source right now ):
https://imgur.com/a/9T4PmQC

Here we can see a few images that represent the Elders, and the king is presented exactly the same way the skykid is in some of them, so we can possibly assume that at least someone in the visual developping team of TGC thought about linking our skykid to the king somehow.

(I took the liberty of isolating said images, so here they go)

[flint schooner]

I was trying to answer you whith my previous message, but I think i didn't manage to properly do that
So, yeah, that's what I was refering to when talking about the link between the king and the skykid!
Quite anecdotic and a bit farfetched maybe, but I guess it has a nice ring to it!

[flint schooner]

Addint to the question posed by Pyre and what Oreo is saying right afterwards...
I thought too, when reading your message, that you implied that ALL skykids (and thus those fallen in Eden) were the King. That upon death the King split/shattered in a thousand pieces (each skykid) who are themselves split too (darkness & light).
So maybe each skykid could be trying to return the light of the King back to the sky so they (the King) can be whole again

Because of the Vault cutscene, I really have the feeling that skykids are, in some way, doing something that they shouldn't really be doing (like they are the victim/collateral damage), but that at the same time what they are doing is something no-one else can do (so they are the savior of the world too).
Maybe that's why, in the Vault cutscene, all the elders seem so solemn (?).

I really need to put more thought into all this!!
(that's why it's great this channel exists so we can share lore insights and theories!)

[eternal elbow]

Guys, is it possible if one day we can have our own house in the game? Or it contradict the story

[gray timber]

idk
are sky kids the type of people to settle?

[queen locust]

In some ways- how I see it- sky kids are collateral damage. Children sent down for a purpose that requires their death to accomplish. At the same time, no one else can do this task- because this is what they were made for. They've done their jobs- but they're still being sent back, for some greater purpose, maybe.

With how many sky kids we have roaming around I'd imagine they were created to be a expendable resource, too.

[eternal elbow]

You're right. I just wish we have more things to collect. I have enough clothes and mask 😂

[flint schooner]

That was 100% my theory too before I read Marie683's theory
Now I am divided myself

Either way, I think both insights are super interesting and I truly love them both!

What I like about the "skykids were created" is that it goes very well with the whole "tecnology disaster" vibe in Eden.
But to me the possibility that "they are fragments of the King" or "they just happened spontaneusly somehow as a consequence of the falling of the stars/light" insight is SO dramatic... I can't unsee... I'm all for the drama HAHAHAHA

What is obvious is that whatever their true nature it was left for us to wonder, and I love that!

[dense ridge]

can someone fill me in on the eden king?

[queen locust]

I could send a document that explains him and the Prince if you like?

[dense ridge]

yes please!

[queen locust]

< https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit?ouid=111696134187527164036&usp=docs_home&ths=true > credits to Bricky for this doc

[queen locust]

Personally I think it could be a mix of both? Skykids are constructs made of fragments of the Eden Elder, made by a deity in order to clean up after the mess that the Ancestors and Elders have made

I don't think said mess applies to 'destroying the Eden diamond'- not just yet anyway, because if the ending was anything to go by it sounds like we're being prepped for something big

So the take becomes they're made of the King- but not by the King

It could be a consequence born of the responsibility thrust upon him as a ruling monarch of the Kingdom- therefore shouldering the blame and paying the price for most of it

Or it could be the conscious act of a martyr who feels guilt over what his Kingdom has become

either one, or both in my eyes

[dense ridge]

i wonder, are spirits deceased skids? If so, then what happened to the skater girl in dreams and the children in assembly? Did the skater girl fulfill her dreams before dying or...?

[queen locust]

I dunno, they could be? I've always just viewed the spirits and skids as separate

[pseudo heart]

Same,, we're similar to them in a way that skykids will be the next inhabitants of the Kingdom but other than that..

[flint schooner]

Ohhh I really like that train of thought too. Maybe the King could have been blown to smithereens (aka skykids) because the diamond exploded?

I am all for the diamond-explosion theory, though I personally like to think the diamond was not the final stage/consecuence of tecnological greed, but something that pretened to be a solution to it/fix the problem (but it totally backfired).

I have a personal theory regarding the light and the diamond itself (don't we all?), but I really want to think about it properly before saying something silly hahahaha

[tranquil patio]

hello what's the topic?

[queen locust]

Eden and the diamond I'm assuming

[tranquil patio]

hmmm ok I'm just going to say my own opinions on that then

[flint schooner]

I don't know about the assembly children, but regarding Dreams, maybe the deceased one is the questgiver, not the skatergirl and the others, who are just part of their memories.

I assume the questgiver is the skatergirl's mother or some kind of parental figure, and all we see in the village are their last/most cheered memories.

So, following this idea, maybe the skatergirl kept on growing and living a nice skater-life, but not the questgiver, who maybe died around that time.

[dense ridge]

nooo questgiver

[livid valley]

[gray timber]

WHY IS THIS GAME ABOUT DEATH

[short owl]

Bc lore?

Everyone is already dead so

[teal orbit]

well, just to clarify the origins of the "skids are pieces of the king" and "eden boom" and theories like that have been around for a LONG time

[livid valley]

It's more of infinite rebirths which gives immortality hmm

[jade river]

i want to open a discussion here

so i want to ask

where did the war on the sky kingdom start and how was it fought?

give theories i want theories pls

[rapid juniper]

Ah ok thx lol

[livid valley]

I'm guessing it's most heavily on wasteland

How was exactly

Swords and spears idk

Catapult might be involved too

[rapid juniper]

Yup catapult to

[jade river]

i somewhat believe some kind of heavy artillery was used

there is evidence of substantial damage on buildings and blast craters at shipwreck

craters which are pitch dark but have no poluted water on them so maybe that's a place which suffered a heavy bombardment?

[distant turtle]

The King started taxing the population, demanding punishing increases in mining and darkstone production, and ever greater shares of the product to be shipped up to Eden. The subjects revolted, fighting to keep the darkstone they produced in Valley, where they lived, to improve the standard of living for the working class. The rebels used the diamond shields. The King's defenses were ironclad, and the battles, though there was terrible loss of life, did not result in a successful rebellion. The King's project to craft ever larger and more powerful darkstone devices moved ever onwards, and with every accomplishment, he set his sights higher...

[jade river]

now this is the kind of theories i like to read

in my theory i do believe the rebellion began due to discontent towards pollution and mass production of diamonds (darkstone)

i would say the rebellion was partially successful quickly pushing the king and its forces out of the capital and out of GW

as the loyalists to the king transported weaponry and the under production eden diamond to eden

GW was the biggest battle and meant the king couldnt use the industrial heartland to its favor

then a long series of skirmishes began on vault as the priests fought to defend the vault

then the battle of eden began

[distant turtle]

Yes, that ultra mega pipe you must climb in Eden tells the whole tale

[jade river]

causing the eden diamond to be activated

and then well

chaos and deatj

[livid valley]

It exploded ?

[jade river]

it got out of control

and began to liberate tons of energy onto space and began to absorb all light

causing mass deaths amongst the population

[livid valley]

Hmm never seen this theory before interesting

[jade river]

when the storm ceased i would say more than a 90% of the spirit population died

the last spirits alive came to interact with the first skykids ever

[livid valley]

So spirits in the past never have a physical form?

[jade river]

yet soon the last spirits died due to old age or poisoning to darkstone exposure

[jade river]

yes they did, what we see today its their memories and a spirit form

the spirits are what we see, citizens of an ancient kind

[distant turtle]

Nice. I imagine that Vault and Eden became locked down permanently. But I like your idea too.

[hazy olive]

Omg I’m going to read all of this

Y’all are so talented

[livid valley]

Means that every form of living thing is immortal

[jade river]

exactly

and their mortal form is ded

very ded

[livid valley]

How about us

The "kid"

Its more of a sentient statue

[distant turtle]

Before Eden was off-limits and before GW was industrialized, it was probably a sacred place for honoring elder creatures. Then the toxic waste from the factories there and from off the mountain poisoned the land, eroding bedrock into swampy muck, until their ancient sacred temples sank into the once hallowed ground and collapsed.

[uneven stag]

Are elder creatures elders? I am kinda confused

[jade river]

i agree with that pollution partially destroyed the land but it seems during the battle the battle is where the most catastrophic damage was done

[livid valley]

What do you define by elders

[distant turtle]

I think they're just old and wise mantas, whales, and the now extinct megafauna

[uneven stag]

Ohh ok

[livid valley]

I'd just say big BOI CREATURE

[uneven stag]

According to the timeline from the concept art, the prince found the darkstone with the shaman ancestor.

[distant turtle]

It could be

[uneven stag]

But who is the shaman ancestor? The forest elder?

[livid valley]

Is there a screenshot of it

[distant turtle]

We don't know much about the early time I would guess it's rejecting voyager only because there's nobody else that comes to mind

[livid valley]

Or a save of the image

[uneven stag]

The first pic in the darkstone era

[livid valley]

Damn it's blurry on mobile

[jade river]

the pic so small i really cant read it lmao

[uneven stag]

But I noticed it says somewhere in the first era that the prince chose 6 ancestors to rule the land

[uneven stag]

I saved the pic in my gallery and zoomed in

On mobile

[livid valley]

Oh right

[jade river]

i mean that timeline isnt canon

my theory and timeline isnt canon too so for me its pog

[livid valley]

There's no image of the shaman on that art but mentions it this is gonna get a lil harder

Eh all of the timeline rn is not canon

[distant turtle]

That aspect of the timeline conflicts with later statements TGC has made when they say the Elders were always Elders and that the ancestors don't become Elders.

[livid valley]

There was canon before but it's not anymore

[uneven stag]

[livid valley]

Yes Elders is Elders

No promotion by God

[uneven stag]

Lmao

[distant turtle]

Rejecting Voyager stops a miner from destroying a mural of Isle Elder, indicating that he is someone who uncovers and protects mystical secrets. And if the same character is the boat mask stick figure in Prophecy murals, meeting the Prince early on and going up to Eden later, this seems to coincide with the Shaman character from the concept art timeline

[deft lintel]

This look like someon holding something

[vague thorn]

Just wanna add on that.. The rejecting voyager finds the skid that fell with the ushering stargazer.. That skid might be the prince too ?

But when I looked at the proph cave, I thought that that guy with the mask could just be the isle elder

[teal orbit]

its most likely the eden elder

its way less confusing if u think in terms of the eden elder and 7th lighty

rather than the king and the prince

[icy violet]

Has anyone talked about the eggs in the last part of the Hidden Forest?

[jade river]

its a literal easter egg lmao

[icy violet]

laughs in pun Okay thank you!

[jade river]

but it can have lore yk

[hardy gull]

I have only this... Any clue why is here?

[lapis notch]

It used to be a feature in the Pre-live 2019 (?) Beta of the game but they scrapped it.
As TGC is cleaning up code, previous ideas like this Star Field Memorial surfaced.

[bitter shale]

Uh yeah... For that-

[pseudo heart]

FLOS U BEAT ME TO IT SHNWNSMMSKEIE

[dense umbra]

Hi, did you guys discuss this? Sounds interesting

[deft lintel]

This place was for the ending cutscene of season of rythme

[amber cloud]

هاي

[short owl]

... What if it's a multi-season event?

We haven't seen one of those before, but with relivable quests, it's possible to run an event where you have crossover

[ivory heath]

what are these planet thingies

[hushed steeple]

You are in the space :P

[lost burrow]

Actually i believe it is like a childhood story from the Elders... I kinda feel like the facepalm spirit is Young Valley Kakashi... And green cape spirit is the Forest one..

[digital nimbus]

Hi guys , I got a question

umm , where are the beta invites ?

[lost burrow]

This is not the channel for it, but anyway, check #beta-signup-info and #beta-announcements

[digital nimbus]

Ohh I'm sorry then

Thank you any way 🤝

[distant turtle]

I know what you mean! However, Isle Elder is in the mural too at the end and looks a bit different to me.

Isle Elder and Vault Elder for comparison.

I don't really think my idea that the first 3 images are the same character holds up, though, because Enchantment uses that third masked figure with the people going up the mountain, a lot. It could just be a random acolyte, or maybe it is someone important (shaman) but probably not Rejecting Voyager. That's probably a Vault mask, not a boat mask. Plus the figure has a robe and the first image doesn't. The second image I could go either way. Could be that R.V. became a Vault person after becoming the shaman.
It's pure speculation.

[hushed steeple]

OML i like iitt! please i always wondered about war in sky but had no way of coming up with a explanation for it this makes a whole lotta sense

[distant turtle]

We also need to wonder if the boneyard represents a different battle, one against the animals, like the timeline mentioned.

[hushed steeple]

Wait, what if they used krills as weapons during those wars?

But then they died on impact which is why the area is filled with bones

[distant turtle]

It could be! We don't actually know for sure if krills are a corrupted accident or made for a purpose

[hushed steeple]

Wait, ypu know the shipwreck right?

What if the krill/megakrill was trained to be sent to that ship as a attack

[distant turtle]

That's a pretty mysterious area. I love the cutscene with little boats there

[vague thorn]

Oh you're right I didn't notice that they are wearing different robes

Could be that the krill are the personification of darkness and bourn out of darkness. Like dementors (idk if you know hp lore)
In that case the bones in the graveyard could be from the light creatures that fought the krills

Another thing I thought about when I went through gw is that those bones could just be water creatures that died after the pollution of water and when the water levels dropped they revealed the corpses. They remind me of the spinosaurus fossils

[orchid jolt]

Is the balance of light and dark a part of sky's lore or is it pretty much the same story as this thing https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/632004389137154048/816295706850623508/SAVE_20210228_224247.jpg

[chilly sluice]

Question, I'm new to this discord and sky all together, why don't some spirits have capes?

[orchid jolt]

the emojis check out

[proud hearth]

Well, the lore is pretty vague, and the technical explanation is probably that if every single spirit had capes there would not be enough colors lol and that each spirit tree would cost so much we wouldn't be able to get ultimate gifts, but my lore theory is that spirits had to earn capes in some way (ex. win valley race, become a skater like dreams girl) and not all spirits could get capes

of course, this is just a theory (this is lore chat we're here for theories)

[grim needle]

What’s the ts???

or is this not the place to ask ÓnÒ

[chilly sluice]

The Traveling Spirit

[grim needle]

ye!

Which is it :)

Hehe

[chilly sluice]

Oh, for this thursday?

[grim needle]

Mhm!

[short owl]

Slick, this is Lore

You want questions

[grim needle]

oh sorry :(

[short owl]

Seasonal oftwn has it too

[split sleet]

vault needs more hard lore smh my head

“it could b a dream who knows very spooky”

[vague thorn]

In the murals we don't see anyone flying, we see them using flying boats as transport. So that could mean that they couldn't fly like sky kids can

[dreamy pond]

I would also like to note how during the flying race it is extremely dilapidated, maybe it has something to do with what it was made out of

[hushed steeple]

I have a question, in orbit there’s a constellation of three friends holding hands. Is there a meaning to that?

[teal orbit]

But if we smh give them wl

They can

Like in eden

[finite belfry]

I thought giving the wl was like putting their souls back in their body

Cause the shiny boyes and statues are like the same, skykid size

[teal orbit]

Eden statues r way larger than skid size

[finite belfry]

Really?

[teal orbit]

Ye

Rlly

[finite belfry]

I mean maybe I just wasn't looking close enough

But they have the same form and stuff

[teal orbit]

Try doing the same poze as them while u r next to them

[short owl]

It may be dreamlike, but that dream is manufactured by tech that only worked cause we brought power

[teal orbit]

Well

Um

[short owl]

Does that feel more "hard lore"?

[teal orbit]

Even when we dont bring power its um still running

Vault magic works by diamonds

[short owl]

By light powered diamonds

[teal orbit]

We just trigger the diamonds with flames

Or do we....

Maybe we are like the battery to the motor

[split sleet]

not really since we already knew that our flame is a power source, we learned this from literally any time you use a candle to trigger something

[wheat vapor]

Is this a discussion about the elders 👁👁

[short owl]

We knew flame was a power source, but we had yet to see holograhic technology

[wheat vapor]

Because today I went to the star field memorial and I thought about how we, the sky kid, are the only sentient creatures that are actually alive

[split sleet]

where are you getting holographic technology from

[finite belfry]

Yeah I looked through my pics, you're right

[teal orbit]

But then
Given that the vault works on its own except for the doors and the elevator i think its safe to assume vault magic isnt from diamonds or light but smth elsr

At least if its light

Its from INSIDE vault

Not from us

[short owl]

The vault seems to change as we rise, with nee materials showing up

[split sleet]

are you tryna say that cosmic mantas are holograms 👁️👄👁️

[short owl]

Them too

[finite belfry]

How do you stand on a hologram tho

[split sleet]

“Them too” my fella can you explain what else is a hologram

And why you think so

[teal orbit]

Its the stasis sparks, not the manta, that supports the weight of the skid

I-

Guys

[short owl]

I think everything after the first room is holographic

[split sleet]

why

[teal orbit]

Have yall forgotten all abt the symbiosys theory?

Ack typo

Symbiosis

[split sleet]

Explain

Never heard of it tbh

[teal orbit]

Wait here

[short owl]

Because there is nowhwere for it to have come from, however after the elder, we see nothing

[teal orbit]

What have they beem doing without it....

[short owl]

Pyre

Your theory is just that and not everyone subscribes to it

[teal orbit]

Yeah but they domt know it even EXISTS lmao

when creatures are being formed by megan out of light, they are neutral.
during this state, if they are exposed to dust, they are created as dark creatures
if they are exposed to stasis sparks, they become light creatures
if they are exposed to nothing, they become neutral
dust is parasitic. it eats up the light inside a creature and makes it constantly hungry, forcing it to be carnivorous, and hunt for external sources of light.
stasis sparks create light a lot and sustain both the light creature and the stasis sparks, and in return, the light creature takes stasis sparks to other places
neutral creatures consume small amounts of light, or none at all and usually consume organic matter.

[pastel brook]

wait who are we talking about?

[distant turtle]

The universe

[split sleet]

Hue hue

[distant turtle]

Womp womp

[short owl]

Pyre, you could have just replied to your theory

That would have made a jump link

[split sleet]

It’s fine

[split sleet]

we see the doorway to eden tho

[split sleet]

Can you clarify what stasis sparks and dust is?

[teal orbit]

Stasis sparks are a type of spark that all quad wings and some monowings have

They keep the target still

Like a tractor beam

As they transfer sparks qnd light to the target

This is useful for mantas and jellies cuz without them, skids would just pass thru them

Dust is a parasitic species that latches onto targets and sucks out theur light to nourish themselves

The target either dies, or develops carnivorous tendencies to get light from outside sources to sustain itself even while the dust slowly sucks the light out

Like pouring water into a pot with a hole at the bottom

@split sleet

There u go

[boreal nebula]

Interesting

[urban lintel]

[vale cloud]

[rapid juniper]

What happend

[vague thorn]

What if everything is just an illusion :O

[gilded spoke]

like the whole world of sky?

[short owl]

Then may Megabird spare us all

for those who don't know, Megabird is a character in the concepts who essentially has a cameo in the game - as you're finishing up the credits and also you can see the giant star=based life form while in Orbit if you look up

[vague thorn]

Megabird is our mom and she made sky as a playground to keep us happy and occupied with the mystery while she has some alone time

[rapid juniper]

Well

[hollow narwhal]

I love that idea

[vague thorn]

Yeah I'm kidding around a little. But it's cute to think of the game as a kindergarten

[short owl]

Hmm, what do kids find fun?

Running around in the rain? Collecting stuff? Playing music? Challenges and flight? Death?

[vestal swift]

DEATH

[vague thorn]

creb

[deft lintel]

Probably learn
Like the emote we have

And when we play with others friends

[primal sierra]

Kids probs think it's fun to disrespect the elders, if our interactions with everyone are any indication--

[soft hamlet]

So I just watched again a sky trailer and I saw this

The heck was this ? Was it a beta thing ?

[cold steppe]

a lot of older Sky promotional material has elements that are no longer in game

[soft hamlet]

Yeah but it is supposed to display a winged light ?

[cold steppe]

yes

[soft hamlet]

So it was this instead of glowy kiddos ?

[cold steppe]

This is from ShiraCheshire's prelaunch beta album for Prairie. In the distance, you can see the winged light halo but the statue and winged light icon but no shiny boi

[primal sierra]

Wait aren't those statues the same ones that we can light in PNR?

[tranquil patio]

[teal orbit]

We live in a playground full of evil bloodthirsty shrimps

[livid valley]

with death

[livid valley]

and crabs plus black goo

[gray timber]

Welp at least she appealed some people

[graceful osprey]

yes. They also used to be statues that you had to give winged light to i stead of the fallen children of light

[pseudo heart]

Anyone got a pic of the eden crown?

[graceful osprey]

you mean the actual crown or the constellation?

[pseudo heart]

The Sky: LA item hh

[graceful osprey]

I have searched far and wide on the internet and I cannot find it

[pseudo heart]

Me neither

[distant turtle]

I don't know what you mean but speaking of kingly symbols-

[pseudo heart]

Ah yes, the vault party hat

[summer trellis]

can anyone tell me again why we can't save the king/eden elder?

[gray timber]

Coz they ded?
also how do you get to that 2nd pic

[amber thicket]

I think it's at the beginning of Eden

[gray timber]

Yeah but how to get there?

[distant turtle]

Some people have an easy method but I don't know it. My method is start at the campfire, fly up over the wardrobe to the clouds, then when you're high as you can get, open wings and dive deeper in the direction over the wardrobe. A wind wall will catch you and lift you over the wind ceiling, and you can fly the rest of the way to the roof of Vault.

Also, be chibi.

[short owl]

He's "not around to be saved anymore". Good luck figuring out what that means tho

So many theories, no solid info

[restive cosmos]

Then doesn't that mean megabird is in real life

Who is megabird

The developers?

Then doesn't that mean when we enters office we enters mom's room

What type of mother makes her kids pay to go into her room

I still have more questions

[distant turtle]

I think there may be a lore argument to be made that Home is canon and constructed by Megabird as a forward operating base for her sky kid army 😁

[jade river]

for me megabird isnt alive

For me megabird is a galactic superstructure composed by all lifeforms who ascended and became stars

it can be alive but at the same time isnt, the elders and the kingdom thought this galactic structure as a living god

which makes sense since many old civilizations thought of stars as divine symbols

that's my view on the megabird

the megabird supecluster

[ocean kraken]

where is the 2nd pic taken?

[jade river]

i like to take a more logical¿ aproach to sky, it just isnt fit to me everything was just a birb

[gray timber]

For me megabirb IS orbit

[jade river]

i mean yeah

it is

[gray timber]

oh

me is stupid

[jade river]

i think megabird is the gathering of every lifeform in a ascended form that expands on the universe

a supercluster on expansion

the old kingdom saw it as a god since it creates life and gives light

galaxies can host life and create it

so for me the megabird is a galactic supercluster and the kingdom saw it as a godlike form

well but its just a theory

[vague thorn]

I think of megabird as all the energy in the world, all the life force and light, everything there was and will be. Is it sentient tho? Is moma birb the one who talks to us at the first cutscene?

[jade river]

i dont think it is sentient

maybe it is maybe its not

[hoary mountain]

I've always wondered what this scratch mark is. It's always seemed out of place and unnecessary, but I'm sure there's a story behind it. What is it?

Its so out of place.

[vague thorn]

What I understood from the game is that those jars were transported throughout the kingdoms and prairie was the exporter, could be just wear and tear. But you got some great eyes

Very interesting indeed

[jade river]

true its not fitting and the only option i can think its a crab, there is no animal which fits any descriptions of any animal

maybe it was oreo

or just damage over time as riki said

[mental juniper]

All I want is eden lore. What happened to this place?? Ik its explained in the intro but HhhhhhH what are your theories and headcannons on this place?

[dusky abyss]

Oh my god right?! And the only “obvious” theories we can get is that GW kinda looks like real life industrial problems

[mental juniper]

It would have looked pretty modern too if it weren't for.....

You know

The death

Pipes everywhere

Big BOAT

Also not to mention how big their buildings were since it was kinda carved into mountains and hills like dwarves

[vague thorn]

We only know 'If only they listened'

[mental juniper]

Its like your parents saying, "what do YOU think you did?" Without actually having a clue

[vague thorn]

And may I add.. WHO should they listened too?

[mental juniper]

Hmmm

[ocean kraken]

what do you guys think eden ||especially pnr|| was before the destruction? because my theory bout ||pnr|| is it is some kind of temple (the whole area). where many skids live, at the end the is ||diamond, which is the temple|| but because of the corruption (any suggestions what the cause it???) the sky turned dark and meteors (aka rocks) destroyed the life there, then sucked out skids' lights. that's why there r so many ||skids statues there). judging from the statues||, the attack was so sudden that no one were prepared. i guess this had something to do with the elder there. as we can see the credits show planets, right? so i think it is meteors that strucked them.

[mental juniper]

Hm

What if it was the people who gave the warning to them

"If only they listened"

What if they were in a fight or maybe even a war with a different group of people?

Ones who brought krills to the land and destroyed everything because they didn't listen to them

Also yes planets

[ocean kraken]

another theory: eden is the first place created, but because of my theory above, skids ||were reborn (us) || to save some skids that were still stuck there in eden. i guess thats explain the first painting in isle as eden : the beginning of downfall or something. i have theories like this but still need to find connections here and there 😄

[mental juniper]

Meteors are also plausible and scary hhh

Ooh boy

[ocean kraken]

so krills are aliens? wow i m sniffing sci-fi here lmao. nice nice

[lethal stump]

you dont need to spoiler tag things here, rocket

[mental juniper]

Yessss

It involves the stars after all

Maybe they're from there

And because they didn't listen to whatever the heck they were saying then got obliterated by em

[ocean kraken]

but i guess krills are corruption form of something, but what is it? the egg in the forest... i guess is the non-corrupted type of krill ( the original creature b4 it turns to krill). and why doesnt it hatch???

[lethal stump]

the eggs are just easter eggs, theyre not necessarily canon or lore

[mental juniper]

Theyre boiled

[ocean kraken]

is krill the whale we see in sanctuary but corrupted?

[lethal stump]

we dont know

[mental juniper]

Mayhaps?

[vague thorn]

The statues are going to the diamond.. And we become like the statues when we die, while trying to get to the diamond. So I always thought that the statues weren't there since the catastrophe, but were like us. Trying to save the world and themselves, but died in the way

[lethal stump]

theres very little canon information about krills, all we know is that darkness is naturally occuring in sky

[mental juniper]

TGC GIVE US MORE STUFF TO WORK WITH

[distant turtle]

It's the entrance to Eden

[lethal stump]

have yall seen the canon doc ?

[mental juniper]

No

Can I see?

Whwer

[tranquil patio]

pretty tired but need lore you know the statutes at that place near the pnr? what happened to those and why can't we light them up/ save them

[lethal stump]

Canon Lore Doc
#lore-discussion-spoilers message

[vague thorn]

The bones in gw are not the bones of a whale, so maybe the krills are a corrupted form of that creature

[mental juniper]

INHALES DOCUMENT

Nice.

[lethal stump]

the bones in gw are turtle + whale bones, its been nicknamed the whurtle

[ocean kraken]

i guess u r right. the first skids tried to save the world but died instead only to found out that the only way to reach the diamond is to die. btw i still dont understand the meaning of the scene: when u die, there is a wl waiting for u.

[lethal stump]

when you die in eden ? cause depending on your interpretation thats not a wl

[mental juniper]

« The masks of forest and vault elders look similar because they are related »

YO WAIT

What tHE HEKC

[lethal stump]

in that sentence, "they" refers to the masks, not the elders, but yes, theyre connected

[ocean kraken]

wowwww thanks a lot, gonna read it soon. u know what, i hope there were animations bout it 😉

[mental juniper]

This is a bruh moment

[ocean kraken]

the shiny kid who hugs us i mean. that scene i still dont understand what that means but i ll read the docs first, perhaps i find some answers, thanks

[teal orbit]

@ocean kraken the skeleton sized dont match

and neither do the shape

but think wut u will my friends

[teal orbit]

irl whale btw

[mental juniper]

What are dark stone?

[tranquil patio]

do yall think the krills were/are present in realms other than gw and eden?

[mental juniper]

Yes

[tranquil patio]

technology by the elders to make things happen like doors

i think

[teal orbit]

raw materials for diamonds

we do this to mantas and birds

[tranquil patio]

sorry that made me laugh

[teal orbit]

then we put the juice inside the refined darkstones

and voila

diamonds

[teal orbit]

why do u think i have the gif? lol

[tranquil patio]

How do they even trap those? i asked myself

then i remembered the manta stuck in dark plants

but how? what, they breeded dark plants to grow in a box

[mental juniper]

Fruit salad

[mental juniper]

Yummy yummy

[vague thorn]

Butterflies are atracted to jars

[distant turtle]

Real life Eden. Preah Vihear Temple in Cambodia.

[mental juniper]

What does darkstone do in general?

O

[vague thorn]

So preeettyy

[tranquil patio]

confine the light so it can be used for doors and stuff like that probably

[mental juniper]

So essentially the eye of eden is just a nuclear power plant gone wrong

[distant turtle]

I meant the photos as a reply to you

[tranquil patio]

also the kings/prince's head looks suspiciously like this, or am i just imagining things

[hoary mountain]

Darkstone absorbs light

It does, but more like the corrupted king design, which would not fit lore.

[mental juniper]

Corrupted King design?

👁️ 👄 👁️

[tranquil patio]

mhm maybe these were sacrifices? hnn what would a king do with glowing potions, resize potions

like why do spirits even have resizes? uh

[mental juniper]

He just wants max height

[hoary mountain]

Yeah.. the king gave each elder a power crystal, to make them strong. Its why the shrines all have a dianond symbol inside them.

We are like.. later versions of the elders. The elders never met us, and we don't really meet them. We are the result.

Sky kids did not exist along with the elders.

[tranquil patio]

what are we giving to the elders in the cutscenes? surely it would cost something otherwise the elder would,, i don't know, not need it?

what are we giving up?

[mental juniper]

Sky is such a relaxing game. I love how everyone is just DEAD so I can explore every nook and cranny of this vast world

[vague thorn]

Wait so who fell from the sky? I thought it was sky kids

[mental juniper]

Everyone before sky kids

[hoary mountain]

Light. Inspiration. With every light we give, the elders seem to grow stronger. And then when they are losing hope, we gift light to them again, for them to carry on.

The elders fell from the sky. All creatures are from megabird, aka orbit.

Its why you see spirits and mantas and everything going to orbit.

[vague thorn]

I'm guessing giving them fire means giving them energy. They need it in order to do the things they are meant to

[distant turtle]

We don't spend wax at the Elders, but in the story it seems maybe we are.

[tranquil patio]

also I've noticed that in tom zhaos sky portfolio theres this picture with a bird evolving from a bird to a megabird? by going to "orbit" in that picture? so when we get reborn, what happens other than wl?

[vague thorn]

A will to live ..

[distant turtle]

We sort of are, but it happens at the constellation later. But in the cutscene we just give them our light.

[mental juniper]

Do the elders have names?

Sorry if I keep asking questions I'm quite new to the game itself