#lore-discussion-spoilers
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Can we talk about lore 
yes
giant ancestor, i mean
What's a hermit in sky terms?
this hermit
Oh that
Still a Hermit?
oh that guy
Pinterest has no valid content to label shrek aesthetic
remind me of taht time reika say soemthing about giant ancestors
Hermit yeti is definitely a spirit
Now let me go on tumblr—
and thats the reason why gw weapons are big
as if i'm gonna drop spoilers in here... c'mon 
i should start praying-
His name was yeti but it was changed for some reason 
From yeti slope hermit valley
😳
this is spoiler chat tho
JK JK sorry
I think they mean like.... Future spoilers we don't know about
Answer me this:
If a skykid flies at 170 km per hour, how much will the hermit be after running into dark water?
i'll drop spoilers instead
idk, if the fact that office cape npc is spirit, is cannon, then maybe it means sth
Probably changed because yeti would tie it to specific irl culture
yeti is not tied to any culture tho
it’s questionable content
spoiler alert the new season will... take place in a realm
Office is an easter egg-
aze no-
Aze pls no-
Looks like valley 
WJWKDJDJDNDN
do we have to disable images and filter shrek?
Definitely valley lmaon
cleanse this chat of shrek -starts ritual-
shrek yes images no-
no please im sorry ktjn-
no more
i'm tempted to say yes to the shrek part
yall-
Aight Aight we joking around sorry sorry
Wait I'm downloading sherk and forest edler
vida-
Oh my—
edler

Please keep things on topic. I know the precipice of a new season is very exciting for lore, but the #rules still need to be followed just like every other channel.
e d l e r
Yessir
guys let’s just focus on the ✨cottagecore aesthetic✨ of the new season
wanna talk about enchant lore?
what kind of trees the forest have btw
dead ones-
the ✨flower crowns✨ and ✨twig hat✨
r i p
leafless ones
endless trees
l o n g once
stick trees
cloud tree
Tbh I was thinking that since the quest giver in season of dreams had the same mask as mr hoot hoot from rhythm
WAIT HOW TALL IS A SKYKID
aight I have to go finish a paper atm have fun guys-
3 ft to 4'5 I think....? An assumption
Lowkey like to think that the skater and mr hoot hoot are siblings and that they grew up to be performers
aND TRY NOT TO INCUR THE WRATH OF THE COOLDOWN
okie bye Vir :3
Bye viri
Have fun dear sir
The min high is 0.80m and max is 2m iirc
See ya!
bai baiii virii
2m holy-
do y'all think that there will be any symbolism in the sense of child innocence or a better connection with natural life... or maybe something else?
that’s their aim
Oh
Both and something else
The something else is not
All of the above
I mean Idk
you dont know yet.... or do you?
Ah, they say they visit the dwellings of the other kids!
They can be 1cm - 4m with spells tho lol
remember that forest was suppose to symbolize teenager age
Sky has the tendency to put me in awe every season so
I’m super exited for the new season!
Will we see more inside spirit houses?
So maybe the season will be about growing up
Trueee
Really supporting my thought of them looking like lost boys from Neverland
Also where do you preorder the season?
Might start a petition to call quest giver Peter Pan brb
more like omori 
I don't think preorders are out yet
not yet started btw
It’s not available yet
Ok
But when it does you can just go on sky and tap your candle icon to get the season pass
yep
I mean with pay lol
soon after this season i think?
I wonder how much they’ll charge
Yeah
Depending on your currency lol
THEYRE about 10$ per pass
(Right? Idk dollars ARENT my currency)
Aaaaaa
But is the preorder more?
No
no
Ya it is
Oh right yeah go ask there
Imagine woodman in Sky
The season is called season of ||assembly||
Okay but I really like this
Cool!
Can't imagine if they are the elder when they was child boi
Oh heck!!!! That’s cool
Oop
Ayo wait what if one of them’s eden
But this isn’t an origin season is it??
is it
XD
Idk
That would be so interesting if quest giver is eden
Oooooooo
Yeah
Likely Eden isn't one of them but that's an interesting thought
I just see when we are into memory
Spirit can see use sometime
They all have different colored hearts/lights
Like the middle spirit has a golden light
Far left spirit has a blue one
Found that to stand out
Including quest giver is 7
So what if 7 is eden
But we don't know who is the quest giver
Imma do something brb
We will stay at 6
But wait until maybe the trailer and it can help
Likely twig man since he’s the tallest but it would be adorable if it were one of the kids
isnt the middle one usuallu the quest giver??
Oh true true
It’s true that he stands out the most
The middle is the most important
But we can't be sure if it is the quest giver or just an important spirit
Like the girl in season of dream
omg true true
so if that is the case then we will get.... 8 spirits?
when i saw her mom/woman I was like "who u?"
7 in teaser, one unknown
Or 6
1 unknown
there are 7 spirits
well this is there first season with a whole bunch of children so im hoping that the quest giver is a child aswell lol
in the teaser
Ok back
Or an adult like a spirit from another season
oh but the news said 6 spirits and one qg
wh
6 and a questgiver is 7 spirits. i know the last 2 season have only had 5, so it might be easy to forget the questgiver—aka season guide—counts as a spirit to obtain items from.
imo the qg got more eden elder vibe
Good
I think of the Eden elder as a prince becoming king and these spirits are maybe the elders younger, so it could be at a time when Eden elder was still a prince
We still not know who is eden
And we don't know if they are young elder or just normal young child
We can create some theory about how it could be
hmm
what if elders were sent to connect the ancestors, and the king to unify them all?
Yeah it's purely theory based
woah :0
Moth is a fan name
this is cool
tbh i wnat to made a theory how the megabirb and skid connected
and that birb-moth connection is giving me an idea tbh-
Well since they created sky kids by birthing them into the sky world, it seems, wouldn't that make sense?
Sounds like a good theory to me
Try to remember of the story of the beginning of the game
It's actually a religion
It send us for a mission
Yeah
Even the prophecy wall show something similar about us and the mission we should do
Yes
And when I see from the old version of the game the ending
It is exactly look like what the wall of the prophecy show
7
Kinggggggg
One of them is the kingg 
qg is...eden 
Lol
ooo
Will we be cutting down trees?
probably not-
just deco I bet
maybe
wish we could bungie jump
rip physics
looks like an openning
bet winged light is there
eden castle vibes
Wait aren't all seasons adventure pass? Foreshadowing...
/nah- non-ap seasons usually refers to office events
/looks like that thing in sunny forest with the belonging season tho
Yeah, but it gives eden castle vibes
All I see is giant tree trunk
I think I’m the only one who doesn’t have a clue on how it gives Eden castle vibes 
No idk how it does either you aren't alone
The tree trunk looks to be important but I don't see how it gives off Eden castle vibes in my opinion
sorry if it has been asked but do y’all think we’re getting a new map/area for this season?
bc that seems to he the recurring theme since enchantment
i wonder what the new pendant will look like
im thinking maybe the crown or possibly the tree
most likely yes
treehouse pendant 
Msksmsjissskmakaksmlsmslalamlaksmsksksksmsomsmsosmsksomslwmsm
What do they all hide under that mask of theirs?
Tbh it looks like an atlantis style-ish structure: island in the middle, boat docks at the sides
In ruins of course
How- what- you scrolled up there ?!??!
:)
It looks like an old design of the wasteland one krill area
Jar thing.... what does this mean?
So while we progress in the season the quests isnt solo anymore ?
JAR LUL
We don't know yet season hasn't begun in beta yet
yay finished with my papers :DDD
this is an outline of Megabird as seen from Orbit I think
Here they are in the credits
I might actually have an answer for that.
Remember that you receive ascended candles when you ascend to eden?
My theory is that the spirits that you have freed are on a mission to bring those lost skykids home - so they need supplies (in the form of candles), I guess?
When you ascend to eden, you bring back something that the spirits need to "bring our lost stars home"
The term "home" may define the lost spirits'/stars' home as much as it could be referring to our world, so we may be asked to send them back where they belong - their home - or ours
Im not sure though lmao
black magic ftw
probably not


Yes gucci
Proph teaser made this channel go crazy... Is it quieter this time? 
you should have seen us when Dreams dropped-
Then again that was the same date that the Isle spirits were updated so
Maybe i miss the cooldown 
Nah we haven't been in cooldown just yet
almost were tho because of Shrek memes
I remember there being one hahha.... Forgot exactly when.
just light em up collect the wax
Oh there was one but that was back in the Dreams teaser
Yeah but in where is that exactly
no clue
What's this 
The vid
If you've observed eden carefully, you can deduce that it's mainly built out of remains of what likely once was an industrial-ish city. Same goes for golden wasteland. This is based on the fact that there are very large tubes in both places.
This may be ThatGameCompany's attempt at expressing the dark demise that we will one day meet if we continue to put money above our planet. The result of industrial pollution. Of climate change. Of plastic pollution.
My wildest theory yet
Eden's name suggests a paradise too- if we're to assume it's derived from the biblical tale of Adam and Eve
can’t believe i asked this question in 2019 damn
so like..., it was once a beautiful place ?
I guess depending on what constitutes a paradise that level of industry could have been it
interesting theory
Let's say that it's the world that we live in. Let's pick a city, say, Dubai. In its current form, it's practically a paradise.
Eden may be the same thing, but in the far future. It's the result of carelessness. Of selfishness. Of ignorance.
So this is how friends receive their heart fragments

Iirc eden was said to be a holy site
sry for the ping btw-
ooooh
sky looks like studio ghibi’s films a lot, and some of studio ghibi’s films touch on environment
man sky analysis essay when
In the golden wasteland,
The green sky is the result of air pollution. The toxic water is the result of water contamination (likely because of oil leak one or multiple of the huge pipes in the wasteland. The crabs and krills are the few survivors of our actions. They don't have a deep hatred for beings of light. They are desperate for resources. For light.
i used google scholar and no analysis on sky cotl. [pikachu face]
Rip it takes tooo much space
In eden,
The red sky is the result of global warming reaching an incredible point. The toxic water is, again, the result of water contamination caused by human interference. The creatures of darkness are, just like in the golden wasteland, creatures desperate for resources. They do not attack you because they hate you. They do not attack you because they despise of you. They attack you because they need the resources.
The area after eden is the planet that we may soon be forced be moved to. The lost stars have chosen the sky as their home, because what used to be our world - is no longer inhabitable.
I think it's more likely the result of contamination by the ancestor's actions and not humans (as the sky world and human world are connected in the concept art)
It's overrun by darkness. By creatures that WE despise of, when, in fact, we were the ones who caused them to behave the way they do. By plants who have evolved to survive in the hell that we have turned the world into and to rid their world of us.
how many words did i write-
HEY UH-
THAT'S A LOT OF WORDS
The sky kids and ancestors are speculated to be seperate species actually! (Although nothing is confirmed)
according to microsoft words, that's 375 words in total
cant fit it into a single message lol
Also I definitely wouldn't call the krill or darkness plants forced to live in those conditions, but rather that they thrive in those conditions. Only the Dark Crabs seem really agitated by the pollution (based on the mural in Forgotten ark of them)
long story short we've destroyed the world and we're moving out
I don't think the sky kids particularly have anything to do with that destruction
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Ancestors and Elders are a different story though and I would place point blank on that
And I agree with this- wouldn't it be exactly the sort of thing that a dark creature would want to live in?
i guess they adapted to those conditions and managed to thrive in them over time-
Yeah! There seems to be abundance of dark plants in the GW compared to everywhere else
I don't think so? They've been shown to have existed in presumably ancient times- the krill especially
yea but again its a super wild theory nothing in that 375 words essay is guaranteed to be correct
Oh well- I see your point
Has anything cannon been announced yet?
Holy crap that makes so much sense tho-
But how does things like air pollution exactly work?
What is the spiky 4-winged manta variety/subspecies seen in the Isles of Sanctuary called?
ok
so i think i've ruled out what not to include when talking about lore
- seasons- they're there because of tgc and for fun
- stuff like the days of love because that's also tgs
*tgc
- travelling spirits
it just doesn't make sense to me i don't know why
I call it amoemanta
(ami-mantuh)
Edit: wait no centi-manta sounds better
Is the red crystal related to the stones in the murals in season of prophecy??
Wait no seasons are part of lore
Seasons... are very much part of the lore-
Prophecy was extremely lore-focused according to the devs
Yes
We can make this same argument for some other Seasons- like Enchantment, Lightseekers, Dreams, and Sanctuary
and yes I will argue for Sanctuary it gave us Mantas
And docile crabs
and a bug that TGC refuses to get rid of for some reason
Pretty much everything in the game except for event items and the office itself ties into lore
Also the new season can be maybe about the old generation skids they cann be the stars we see at isle mural
Most likely a quad wing that they redrew again (since these are old rough sketches)
((Quad since i only saw 2 wing sets))
wait what?
okokok forget what i said i'm a lore amateur here i'm used to dealing with lord of the rings lore lol
that looks like it was supposed to be in aviary or something
I believe that the coming Season will be like an allegorical nursery rhyme, and will provide hints about the relationship between the Prince and the Elders.
That's- elaborate
if this ends with at least one of them getting banished I'm calling Isle Elder shenanigans
I love that theory already! But, these kids are all dead so if there is something I haven't picked up please tell me more
I just want some damn normal spirit lore
the Prince-Elder stuff is interesting but I just need stuff of the spirits
Hmm...
We fell from the sky
Oh okay
We'll probably be getting it from them either way if they're related to Ancestor spirits across the different realms
From the little we know about next season, it will be centered on these young children scouts, playing around with just a tree house
So maybe it will be about the ancestors sons & daughter playing as grow-ups by taking a look how they will act/react the adults perhaps we will get a grip about how the ancestors built the kindgom
y e s p l e a s e
Y'know what- that they're scouts implies something kind of interesting about their system already
Like if we're talking about them as literally scouts that implies they have a school system in place, or they're part of the military but as like... mini-troopers
Maybe they're staying at some kinda boarding school?
Because it'd be pretty hard to keep track of kids from across the realms
Hope at least to see the children memories intersecting with regular Forest Ancestors (so like Yeti's one seeing other spirits from afar)
dudeeeee hunting lessons with the Dismayed Hunter-
hIDE N' SEEK WITH THE CHIBI SPIRIT
WHALE WATCHING WITH THE WHALE WHISPERER-
I think we had enough school with the ProPHetssors
b-but- eDUCATION SYSTEM-
idk this might just be me digesting way too much information for Related Literatures and Studies
BUTTERS HI- HAVEN'T SEEN YOU IN A WHILE
Hi
So yeah, seems like I missed an entire Season due to burnout for a bit and all. I ended up missing an entire season :')
Sneaking away from education system
On the bright side now that the seasonal events are over you can digest Dreams in one go XD
without the bugs-
😆
KARMA
For lack of discipline
I might go for next Season, who knows
I really like the Aesthetic for the new Season tho
you should have seen us earlier almost go into cooldown because we gave it a Shrek aesthetic

it went from cottagecore to Shrek way too quickly
Lets not start that again

What has this chat gone down to while I was away...?
Scroll up
I guess there's the overhaul where some of the links were taken off the pinned messages, that was last month or so
Ktjn came to stop the chaos 
We had a bit of a skirmish over canon and chat behavior
Damn
Plus there was this brief moment of shipping spirits- and that update for chibi mask spirit where she's younger and looks like the skater girl now
And you know that Yeti spirit- apparently he had battle axes stored away
THEY TURNED HER INTO A-
Well, that actually makes a lot of sense...
I mean, if you think about her story
Wait, wasnt there a time where a glitch happened and an unreleased dress pants came out?
Hi, and welcome back. We never crossed but, while you were absent, new members joined that archeological, impossible quest. Haha.
I won’t interrupt. Have a nice day 
Idk about the glitch but I think we just assumed after this that if she takes off that mask she grows back into the old model? or something to that effect
I think it makes more sense if lore changed entirely and is now a child
The chibi mask just reverts the skid into a younger version like her
Like how the chibi mask spirit is a child, younger version of an adult
HIDE AND SEEK IS THE SCOUZT'S FREN
The blade wielders looked like this
I believe the central kid in the teaser is a proxy for the Prince
Lone scout = Prince
Treehouse = Kingdom
6 other scouts = Elders
Players = Citizens
No but I don't want to know, that's not the kind of spoiler for this channel
the upcoming season looks very lore related for some reason
unless if it is just some people looking for a happy place to live in
like a tree
Do u guys know that the spirits were dancing along while the Dreams' girl was performing
Do u guys remember how the Prophecy murals and Enchantment light orbs placement are mismatched?
What if it has something to do with these two red and violet elements?


These two elements i mean
how cool would it be if the assembly seasonal spirits were the younger versions of the elders
i KNOW that they're definitely not
but
head full of baby valley elders
anyeong
season of assembly lore!
Each spirit this season is individually related to the realm Ancestors of Sky – with their theme and items a reflection of their personalities.
there are 6 elders only but 7 children spirits in the season, does that mean the 7th spirit could be the eden elder/king :pEyes:
putting aside the lore behind it a lot of people are divided on whether the middle spirit (lone scout) is going to be the quest giver or if they're going to be the main spirit we have to help like the skater girl
so if the lone scout does turn out to be like the skater girl the maybe they could be like the king yeah
but it's very unlikely imo
that the 6 spirits are the baby elders
they're just related to the 6 realms,,, so maybe they're like apprentices?
of the elders
Funny thing is that I just recently thought about the Elders as kids and then this season teaser showed up 
I think the twins as baby would be one baby and they’d scream a lot actually 
One chaotic kids annoying everyone...
isn't that just my brother?
notice that they say 6 ancestors. This means that valley elders are one
thats an old concept btw
elders and ancestors are considered different now
old storyline is fascinating, but also can be quite confusing haha
lmao nice name choice ali 
Though it is quite weird why the next season's teaser referred them as realm Ancestors which I'm pretty sure are the Elders???
JSJJSNSNNSNS THAMK
oh yeah... those two speculated to be one soul in two bodies anyway
also the old concept for valley elder was a priestess
then they change it into athlete twins
maaaaaaaybe they actually referring to some ancestors from other realms, not the elders?
english weird ngl
or maybe those kids idolizes the elders and try to imitate them?
who knows
this accessory remind me of krill for some reason
krill... antennae???
is taht what it called
You know that lore thing the devs said about "the capes are made out of light and they cast no shadow" what a nice move to make to save time from shadow animations 
That's a really nice interpretation!
I feel like the spirits might be the helpers of the elders to gather items, but they seem more like 'children', but a different kind to us skykids

Low Budget owl hair with sticks

"put some sticks onto your head and you'll be an owl"
.....i think, if the lone scout is the original CoL will make sense ngl
QGs are suppose to lure us into their season
yeah that's what i was thinking!
we are modern col 
umm like those 6 children representing elders... and us as their citizen...
and the lone scout as the original CoL, unifying all into one season
I just back read and this might be it! Since the blog post did say that the 6 spirits were related to the elders in some way

What a nice foreshadowing of deep sky lore in a perfectly innocent season about kids building a treehouse 
Metaphor 100
I think the descriptions it said that this season was used to patch up some missing historical features 
Is there any lore related to season of dreams?
More on uhh cultural lore?
Maybe dreams was just another side thing and not directly lore related? 
well, it give us some insight of villages in valley
Hmm.. Interesting
nuh uh its actually role related
Well since we got an "off-lore season" or smth, this is one will most likely related to lore, like,, actual lore 
and yeah its showing that valley is where lots of cultures are mixed
....uh more like
a whole city filled with people of many cultures
Can't wait for next season tho.
It will probably come out near my birthday and I'm so happy for this advanced indirect birthday gift from TGC


so like valley is where different cultures meet
goddangit i cant phrase it correctly
What If all the items we're gonna get to build the treehouse represents what the elders did to help create the sky world 
It might show the story of sky but with kids games
Would be interesting to see
:OOO folk tales folk tales!
folk tales!!!!
hey imagine if one of them have music sheet about their folk song
YESSSS
oh my gosh
Assembly doesn't fit into the whole kids theme so i wish they change that 
I hope its easy 
should go now, bye byeee
I'll make that a chant to manifest a ts I want 
one more thing, what if every music sheet we got are actually folk songs too?
might be soemthing like Dragonborn, those kind of song that sung by bards on tavern
It somehow does?? Like u know how kids assemble in groups to create something hhhhh
Maybe "season of gathering" instead?
They create their own little world hh
Lol i'm connecting assembly to army and military, might be just me
I'll think of and leave some alternatives in #live-feedback
Yall ever think about the hide and seek spirit is a kid who died while playing hide and seek
Ahh oof
My breaks a lil bit everytime I see their spirit while Cr-ing
Did she get crabbed? 
Or fell from a tree?

The next season spirits are all children too 
Maybe the reason why they're called the hide and seek pioneer was because they were never found because well.. no one was there to find them anymore 
There's no conformation on if we see the last memories of the spirits. It might be their strongest memories 
or my cat
they seem more like deer than krill
krill seem to have much more jagged edges
i also think calling it season of gathering would be more,,, child-like? like,,, children gathering and piling stuff and just having fun
but they're assembling the treehouse
what are more words for assemble help
build. LMAO
ah yes the season of building

love how it can all be a huge metaphor about how the kingdom was built
The foolish tree at the graveyard in gw. Why i'm calling it for the foolish tree - its because, you're standing there like a fool trying to burn down the tree and trying to go away from it when finished while being attacked by the cute dark dragons XD

though interestingly it's not listed on thesaurus hahaha
ah yes, season of manufacturing

sounds like a gw season

english doesn't have enough nice sounding words
i'm an english anti
does anyone know what it's called in pinyin?
like,,, the pinyin of the season of assembly
what?
lemme check chinese sky
Bujian
aserbli
season of unity strays too far but 
Omg are you Chinese?
no but i understand some of it
????
aserbli is just,,, assembly in Chinese accent 
visible confusion
i thinks
Bujian is assembly in Chinese....
well, you know, It’s hard to learn pinyin
yess
the coming season looks like it is set in sunny forest
around the planks that circle the two trees maybe 
chinese is a pain for me
“Collection”
collection is just,,, collecting something and not building anything from it i think
Japanese and English learning are my nightmares
but i dont think it will be because i think it will be a different area
more like:
children, assemble
sky website doesn't have chinese language option and sky twitter doesn't have it either (ofc.. they don't use twt they would more likely use weibo lol)

do u think that the spirit quests would be in different realms and the tree house would be where they gather?
like,,, they look for stuff to build the tree house in all the different realms
and at the end they all assemble together in the tree house
tbh i would probably translate 'assembly' closer to chuàngzào, meaning-wise
I don’t think they need materials from different realms, maybe all needs are in forest
but how else would the spirits would be related to different realms? that's what they said in the teaser right
chuangzao (创造) means creation
i'm imagining like how we collected lights in season of enchantment
Please, @bitter shale, do not share or discuss rumored content and information. It’s against the #rules here.
Lmao mate-

yes i know. i specifically stated that it'd be more in regards to meaning
since bùjiàn has more of a manufacturing tone
wait what happened
Check pm
bujian (部件) is PARTS
what did u say 
bahaha. ya i think my translation is more fitting of the tone
chat got taken over by season of assembly speculation
lmao i thought of 不见 (missing)
LMAOOO
omg
missing children
season of missing children 😌
Y'all think maybe the skater girl and mom are related to Rhythm qg in a way? Heck, rhythm could even be a parent for all we know, and their career inspired their daughter that wanted to be like their parent?
😌
Shouldn’t it be bújiàn?
don't jinx it what if the spirits go missing

ah yes but we pronounce it bùjiàn in malaysia
slang ahahah
oh
i forgot its actual pronunciation 
delishus dialects
This conversation made me give up learning chinese before I even tried doing it

your screen name is great
CHINESE
Thamk hh

All I know in Chinese is Wo buzhi dao or smth
Which literally means I don't know 
just for fun, there’s no connection to lore
Are y'all talking about lore?
我不知道
I thought this was #lore-discussion-spoilers But then I just see chinese
Back to lore topic
Any lore feast?
I hath been ignored ✌️😔
learn chinese
learn chinese
Dis be an english server doe 

Retired mentors..
Maybe the dreams' spirits are the older ver of the rhythm spirits ebebsne

Where'd the other 2 go then?

Vibing.. idk
No lore juice atm
I mean, juggler is still the same
How come the others aged? :SkyLOL:
No connections between Winter spirits and Dream spirits, maybe Dream questgiver just invited the winter dancer to teach the skater
My calculus project took all my brain juice
Really saying no connections whe the mom is wearing rhtyhm mask

When*
Rhythm*
maths is fun
Yea
Null not u too and yes
season of math
i would love this
How about no
the devs challenge you to solve equations
yes
in season of math you have to count all the candles
solve this functional equation to get into the area
All the candles that I don't have?

you has a point
Ok so how about this
Calculating the probability of the cannon number of skykids being a given value
Who said my name 
I won’t buy this season’s pass cause maybe it needs to solve a math problem 
every season is season of math if you don't have ap
Are we one, eight, four, or billions?
calculate the amount of money you would give up for a pass
Can yall just go back to the chinese convo yall had earlier 
Megan: We are one and one is us all
even if you DO have ap u gotta calculate when u finally get the ultimate gift
ragrets
there are some interesting oob chinese translations
...
||elder's valley: 千鸟城 (city of a thousand birds)||
ooh that reminds me,,, lore about the valley oob?
That's for the stadium oob??
I mean it makes sense since there's the day oob
婚礼教堂
where the birds tho
Wait a sec
the what
no idea
When you go to the day version
The end of the races is now different
I don’t think if it has any connections to lore
Was the valley oob changed to reflect this
I don't feel that the season will be direct canon lore, but I do feel that TGC will draw elements of the hidden lore into these kids' stories.
about the NAME
Or are they out of sync

Folk tales folk tales !
there's 空中别墅 (villa on the air/floating villa) too
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Back to lore
yes back to lore
what’s our next topic?
Is the elder cutscene still in the stadium as it is, or does it look different now
No, that’s not lore
Cause there are implications
we don’t talk about Chinese fanon names
when we talk about the treehouse, do we mean one that’s actually up in the branches, or the hollowed out stump in the picture?
Okay wait BUT I'm pretty sure this is city of a thousand birds hh
The campfires. Forest, Wasteland, and maybe another one I am forgetting. The fires. Are they merely campfires? Or ceremonial fires?
Okay now go on
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owhhhh wow it's so nice
Pain™
Previously I had thought the twins were trapped in the stadium, but if this is not where they are anymore
CEREMONIAL FIRES
wait are ancestor spirits all ppl who died tragicly
Right?
Finally a time to sacrifice myself for height 1
They used to charge the Ancients (?)
#lore-discussion-spoilers message
I found those previous pics
Maybe the elders weren't connected to places in Sky, but rather places in Sky were built to give the elders a home
Prophecy lore really made me mad
Oh yeah Tom Zhao has beautiful diagrams on color language
i know that
Yes of course but that's my only knowledge on the topic! 😅
Do you think the elders were lonely in the stars?
I do actually have a topic but it probably isn't gonna take us very far. Dawn and sunset both appear in front of us. This implies that the map actually does turn 180 degrees (it can be fewer as Null notes) as we traverse the landscape, like the concept art depicts.
this channel is making me sad
Why
Perhaps, but I believe something similar happens near the poles of earth
this is sad
Because of where the sun is and how tilts work, the sin doesn't go around
It just kinda dips in for a bit
where did you get this 🤩
I mean a death while having fun is probably better than a death while walking away from danger in the wasteland
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gosh
Pins called "world map"
are all spirits ppl who died tragicly
maybe she was hiding when the kingdom fell so she doesn't even realise she's dead
Why
That’s too far away from lore
@buoyant wraith Are u Chinese?
Me too
Where can i see the lore from china? A link please :3
i havent found any chinese communities that discuss lore :3
Lore from china? If you mean Chinese server then its most likely the same as Live, no need it call it chinese lore

There are a few differences
Either way, this server is for the global version so probably shouldn't be talking about it? Idk?
While TGC likely determines most of it, Netease does change things
Sorry my english is not good enough, that's from chinese server, any link?
Yeah well that's obvious from what's recently happening
But i would like to know other points of views
This is all global server, and I think someone said there's no discord server for Chinese servers but that's about it
Huh
Points of view for?
There's plenty of lore here still, see the pins for some documents of already recorded lore (canon and fanlore)
Or you can simply ask here and spark up a new conversation:pAww:
Meaning that in concepts it was called "QuadWing", but that the one in the game looks different from concept art.
I agree
I've seen many of them,in fact i have a little virtual library, but never is enough to understand better the lore, well is my own opinion 🤷🏻♂️
Every view of the stadium except being in the stadium zone at the end of the race looks the same as before. Even Season of Dreams finale uses the version from the beginning of the season, without the new extra viewing areas.
Hmm interesting
I guess they aren't sticklers for some things.
They may be different models that just haven't been updated
But i want to know if there are plans to update the cutscene.
I know assets tend to be duplicated when visible from other "areas"
And that the Elder Stadium is usually a lil different than the main stadium
It's kind of like when you are going to Orbit and look down and don't see much. TGC doesn't make it photorealistic. I guess that's not the goal.
This makes sense to me, that they are in a different version of the stadium that exists outside of the present.
Same with the finale, but I do wish they would add the large statues to the far views of the stadium.
I just wanna know if the elders home/prison is based on reality, or if reality is based on it
And on the same token, were the Elders ever corporeally walking around the realm with the people?
Did people construct the stadium to give the elders a place to be, or did the elders fall in love with the world the ancestors made?
I think the home is on a separate plane, but they probably weren't always on a different level of reality.
It's a great lore question!
Elders might have been akin to spirits - not quite there, and not corperal, but still able to be interacted with
Which begs the question - are ancestors we interact with really dead? We could easily be in a plane that weaves through time and space, interacting with people who are still around
I mean they'd probably be really dead for at least part of it
But
Maybe the people needed to communicate with Elders in special ways, like the temples. I think the people are dead, because of the ugly way their bodies are, and the tombstones.
Maybe even the Prince needed a special place to meet with the Elders, like, this spot
Maybe the King, Eden Diamond business was really because the Prince was attempting to become an Elder.
?? You asked about the name of the manta
so i answered..
Guys guys
Is it true that the spirits are d e a d ?
He wasn't satisfied with being the Prince, emissary and servant of Megabird. He wanted to be the Eden Elder, King of the Elders and God of the Sky Kingdom.

i think so because they are S P I R I T S
nope i am just talking at here 
The skater girl 
yep
I think they all died when that gigantic red diamond broke
Are the elders dead ? 
"how to become a spirit?"
first step: D I E
They're in limbo. So Yesn't
Yesnt
umm we always reborn tho
The place u see them at (the temples) isn't actually where they physically reside in. Its just a place that was important to them which is why i think their actual "gravestones" are the tombs we see at ascension but the mental meditation let's us see them in their important place/time
Y u erase i was reading 
wait i couldnt read it 
It seems to me that the Elders need TLC to become more themselves again, and that when you complete their constellations, that helps them somehow, like they are made whole by the offerings of candles and hearts to the spirits under their care.
This is actually making me sad, why I didnt think of this before 
Welcome to lore chat 
time to math lesson goodbyee
Imma read stuff here 
I just realized the canon doc was unpinned from here
I've been away for a long time.. (more stuff was unpinned as well)
2 different shields in the last map of wasteland, also appear on the two races in valley
like the symbol on it
i legit just realized
Sun shield and diamond shield
so they were foighting eachother?
Yeah the mods decided the chat needed a few cultural adjustments and changed a few things
The sun shield can be seen at eden as well
That's good ngl
Yeah its weird cuz we see the gw elder use both sheilds...
Which makes theories i make confusing xD
ima just copy and paste sumth rq i wrote soem time ago
Doesnt the gw elder use a spear 
Yep but i mean the shield :3
I THOUGHT the valley elders were friends 
prairie is like then discovering that they can use magic so they start using it. Its still the beginning stages where they found the use of it. The spirit in the cave is like the opposite of the ancestor in the sanctuary islands. They found out about the magic power the life gives and different uses for it. They start dividing, the spirit in the cave wants to contain the magic butterfly and the spirit in the sanctuary chooses to let them free. You can see in the prairie elder cut-scene in prairie they chose to imprison and use the magic as the elder contains it in a pot
He uses a spear.
In the constellation icon its diamond shield (in vault constellation its also diamond shield). But in GW temple its sun shield
Forest is like where they start abusing the magic power given to them as said in the last, prairie elder cut-scene decided to contain the magic. They started to gather the magic in large amounts, you can see the cutting down trees and mining . Notice some platforms that looks like like the light mushrooms but they don't give off light, prolly bcs they taking the energy out of it. I speculate because they were destroying their environment like that the damaging rain started. also i think the ships in the beginning of forest are the pots that contains the butterflies. I think that the krill is the polluted version of the whale, big guess but like it sorta makes sense, the whale bones prolly bcs the ancestors polluted and killed it and so that's why krills attack us
I don't have much on valley but i think its when the separation shows more between like the ancestors that believe they shouldn't be taking all magic energy and the ones that think they should make use out of it. Like the both sides getting competitive.
Wasteland is when everything break out into mess, probably war wink wink
First its attack of krill as you see the building being destroy in the dropping down spirit ducking from building and probably hiding from krills. Then they start fighting the krills in the 4 krill map and they probably got rid of some krills bcs of the bones (omg roasted creb)
In the last map you can see there are fallen shields and stuff but you don't see the krills, weird, huh? So like you can see that there are 2 types of shield so the ancestors prolly began fighting each other, and when you reach the end and activates the temple the krills comes in prolly signaling the end of the war everyone poofed and the krill can live and swim here,
Vault prolly just the aftermath survivors recording down the history, each level resembling each realm, each stage they went through that lead to their fall
there
Where is there a Sun? Diamonds are everywhere 🙂
Lemme find pics its been a while
I'm loving this lore 
that's a pretty good idea, but do you have any explanation for eden ?
i dont think so lol, i dont pay much attention to eden
Sorry to butt in but, I saw the lore Moff document but its not giving me much info.
Who are the King and the prince ?
i just see it as a game mechanic
They are characters who appear in concepts and some in game images
but the factory like enviorment on the second stage is quite soemthing to talk about
But don't have much material
We know one of them is shown in the eden mural at the end of the vault cutscene, holding an orb
yes i agree
And we believe the statues in Golden Wasteland are of the king
hmmm, in my opinion, things that did not make it into the game prolly wouldnt be
like those hand spiders, those are definetly no
And there's theory that shini boi from the prophecy murals is the prince
But whether they are the same person or not can be debated
could just be something like the skater girl
This makes me think that skykids can only revive the elders as fragments... Like we can only give them sparks instead of the whole fire...
Since imo light children are fragmented version of the original child of light
This is precisely my feeling as well
Y e s s s s
diamond shield represent those who abuses the magic giving to then bc power diamonds
haha smort
big bein
I sometimes wonder if the col is happier like this
filiposikal
Sure, they are ripped apart and regularly pelted with painful rocks, but they have friends who know what they are going through and can spend their time playing music without the stress of running an entire kingdom
Who knows... Just look at valley twins, does they look happy for you?
Well at least they wont be alone in their limbo like other elders-
But everyone else is dead, and everyone left is the Prince. It's kind of like a Matrix 3 scenario.
M a y b e
Idk we never see them alive anyway-
And we didnt even know if they were once actually a soul in one body or already created as one soul in two nodies
I'm being facetious. I get it that we are rescuing ghosts and scavenging holy light. It's a great story.
are the crystallized bodies in eden cotl who failed to pass or the cildren ancestors on sumth
....rip nvm-
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Either they are supposed to be like other players who went to Eden before you, or they are the Prince, who shattered, then tried to fix his mistakes as a group, and failed.
summarize thee text wall🎵
Does anyone have any theory on why Krills or found ONLY in wasteland and not the other realms? The world of sky is dead empty and there are no inhabitants. Then why don't the krill just fly up and take over valley and Prairie?
Tornado I think
Even if krill are super powerful, they still can’t fly through tornadoes
Noted.
I didn't think of the tornado. I got the idea that the Whale that patrols the clouds between Valley and Wasteland might be the reason.
But tornado is pretty solid too.
I could see this
Here’s a cool thing I noticed, every temple entrance after prairie has a giant door. Also after prairie, we start to see darkness creatures and the effects of the power diamond production.
Isle has a gigantic door as well.
The forest cutscene shows how one of pesky diamonds r made
And it kinda fascinate me that the rain can harm us, but not the water/river itself
Do you guys connect every theory to the Diamond Production theory?
Oh true. I sorta meant an unblocked temple entrance??? Idek
And also a cool thing about forest is that the symbol above the temple doors is actually the elder’s old maks design!
*mask
Yeah!
Old forest concept is wack ngl
Weird old spirit lady with a (fox?) mask lure children into a forest to get lost was the old concept yes?
I
I think so lol
Oooo
It's on Tom Zhao page right?
Yeah, I think so
Also it's a story board not a play through lol
I have no idea what stuff is called so yeh
I've seen the 11h long play through of old old Sky tho, that was fascinating
Oooooooo
And god am I happy that they decided to change so much of how spirits work
I haven’t seen it what was it like?
All drag spirits
Wdym
Every single one of em'
You have to painstakingly guide the light thru various checkpoints
oh my god
Wait no not all, but like a good 70-80%
Oh god
Also about the forest storyboard I would’ve rlly loved to play through that actually, even tho I would’ve been absolutely terrified at the ghostly figures lol
Oh any ideas on what are the quest givers of each season?
Yea but like, after the season, all the spirits will go back to Orbit, but never the quest giver/leader
It’s sorta sad tbh
It kinda makes me wonder
Final Forest design is superb
yeah they stick around so skids can still do the quests but it’s still sad :(
I need that hair 
Also, do you think that the dream was actually achieved during the time when they were still, well, exist?
I’m...not sure
The last memory led me to believe that we were interacting with the girl, but we can’t really know
I’m assuming so
Since after each quest, you would see the lil spirit skating at the ice ring there, but after the last one shes just, gone
Yeah...
Not even with her given outfit
Imma miss her in that rink tbh
Also the outfit part is so important to me for some reason
It meant the the cape and mask are meant to be something important to be pass down from gen to gen
I like to think that it was originally the questgiver’s, and she’s passing it onto her daughter/relative
Yea I think so too
And that dreams guide used to skate, too
It's mostly all there, with winged light kids in your path instead of ghosts, and the boat area instead of a factory entrance. Forest was way confusing the very first time.
true
I think that the grass is always greener on the other side, and if this was reversed I’d be more interested in the current forest play through lol
Also I just realized that the seasonal spirit quests/memories are just the quest giver telling our skykid a story about their friends/jogging their memory to do so and that seems so sweet

Really tho, the ending of the dream quest made me kinda sad
Because really, you just can't see how truly dead the place is without seeing how truly alive it used to be. And they made the transition hit like a truck






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