lore-discussion-spoilers

[bitter shale]

here, you might want to read an anylisis of it

written by a fellow lore person here

[torpid maple]

So many big brain words, this is hard to understand.
Im sure i'll understand soon enough though doshsk

[sullen mirage]

I’m about to sound very dumb-

What’s leifmotif

[distant turtle]

How all the main music in the game is kind of the same song

Leitmotif

[hushed glen]

yeah the music composer (vincent) seems to have made a certain theme for the game's soundtrack

[sullen mirage]

Ohh

That’s cool!

[old dove]

A leitmotiv is a pattern that’s repeated in a musical piece. It can be related to a character for exemple. So when the character is happy, his “theme song”, his pattern would be played happily into a more complex song.
The song in Isle and Orbit share identical patterns, intensifying the connection they have.

[sullen mirage]

Oh, that makes more sense, thank you! ✨

[old dove]

Though, the songs in Isle and Orbit aren’t the same. But because of the presence of a leitmotiv, we feel a sort of familiar sensation.
Like an audio “déjà-vu” because we already heard the pattern somewhere else.

[quiet crystal]

What temple (building/temple/nothing important idk) is this?

[slate saffron]

Hmmmm

[compact scarab]

Thats from valley Temple oob. When you get out of the temple and fly out after the clouds, this is left there in the background

If that’s what you’re asking

To get to dark stadium oob

These pics are old so they don’t have the shiny small crystals all over in it

[quiet crystal]

I just went there 😅

Wondering if it represents anything from Sky

[lyric isle]

Ah yes, the leitmotifs
some time I ago I had an idea to compile them, but that might be very time-consuming and boring

[slate saffron]

What do you think these things are?

At first I assumed they must have been something that fell from the Forrest temple roof or some peak part that had become dislodged

But then I took a closer look and realized that they looked a lot like a jar or a container of some kind

A container with a suspiciously large amount of black stuff inside

[hushed thorn]

Who is this

[hushed thorn]

Some people theorize they make power diamonds
Which are the blue diamonds found everywhere especially on things that float

[quiet crystal]

The hide and seek pioneer

[hushed thorn]

But it’s a child
And I saw the hide n seek pioneer later in the flight
(Tho I wasn’t entirely sure)

[quiet crystal]

The Hide’n’Seek Pioneer

[hushed thorn]

Wait aah

Did it change

[quiet crystal]

It changed during the last patch update

[hushed thorn]

Oh wow ok

[somber swallow]

yanno how everybody thinks that tgc always puts a hint to next season

i think i found those hints?? its not a mural but actually a lantern is what i think the hint is

ive searched anywhere else and it seems the village is the only place to use these lanterns

but what other realms use it?? the vault

so it may or may not be a hint to next season, but it is a bit sus the new seasonal area is the only one other than vault to have these

[hushed glen]

well forest and vault are the only realms without a season focused on them

[somber swallow]

forest had season of belonging iirc

it had the biggest seasonal expansion too

[hushed glen]

isle - cave of prophecy
prairie - sanctuary islands
valley - village of dreams
wasteland - forgotten ark

i mean new areas being added to a realm

forest and vault don't have one for a season yet

[somber swallow]

there doesnt seem to be a hint toward forest but it could still happen

[hushed glen]

yeah

[somber swallow]

but my moneys on vault (literally)

[pale kestrel]

Said me three seasons ago

[somber swallow]

oop

[somber swallow]

i thought that season of belonging had the sunny forest?

[pale kestrel]

Caves was seasonal iirc

[hushed glen]

i think only a 2 player door was added there for belonging

not entirely sure though

[sullen mirage]

I’d love any season I just want more pants

[hushed glen]

same

[somber swallow]

same

[trim kernel]

What would it be called

[hushed glen]

guess we just have to wait and see

[trim kernel]

Season of history would be good or Season of stars

[lethal stump]

[coughs] discussing wishlist ideas isnt exactly meant for lore chat

#seasons-events-chat since general is closed afaik

you didn't, just be mindful of what a channel is for

[old dove]

Yes, but the spirits were still wanderers in all the realms. There wasn’t a central zone that changed as the plot was revealed. Which is how the last seasons work: a big area, evolving with the seasonal story.

I wanted your opinion about something important.
In the isle of dawn, the spirit called “ushering stargazer” along with the spirit “rejecting voyager” see a star crashing in the sand. And it is a sky kid.
When you revive the story of the rejecting voyager, he does not want to go and see the elder of Isle.
The murals in the cave of prophecy looks a lot like the stargazer and the rejecting voyager send the sky kid to the trials in the cave. I think the rejecting voyager is depicted in the fresco with his horn mask.
So it would mean that at the same time, there were “ancestors”, “the elders” and at least a sky kid that later becomes king or something similar.

Do you confirm that? And that’s why the elder of Isle is not on the door to Eden?

[steady tundra]

moth honk
honk is goose

Mega bird is goose confirmed

[somber swallow]

i support this headcanon

[old dove]

I was in shock. I absolutely didn’t remember that, about a sky kid found by the ancestors.
The elder of Eden was a sky kid then. And like the dev said, there is no more Eden elder to save. Then we are somehow fragments of this king. No?
What’s our purpose then?...

[hushed glen]

[hushed steeple]

Our purpose is to save the king but fail everytime, keeping up false hopes of success LOL

Even if you want to help someone, they can't recover. You're just too nice and have too much hope.

This is mostly a joke

Cuz I can't rlly think of anything

[somber swallow]

most of the time we're freeing ancestors and ascending them, instead of leaving them in darkness

[hushed steeple]

Then imagine that the sky kids are fragments of the king, and by freeing them, we're putting the pieces of him back together

[old dove]

But, if there is no more king to be saved... Then what? This is a metaphor to say that we must sacrifice endlessly? How foolish we are ! Hahaha
Or maybe the thing is to unite the king again. And befriend everyone. That could be our purpose... That would fit TGC attitude about being a strong community etc.

[hushed steeple]

Yeah

That second one makes a lot of sense

[somber swallow]

i wonder how tgc will move the main story forward

if there ever will be an expansion other than seasonal ones

[old dove]

I don’t think they will. I think they will keep having those little stories that fit inside the big picture. So that WE have to put the pieces together. I doubt the realms will be restored one day... But we will probably have seasons that give more details about what happened.

[somber swallow]

that would make sense

[old dove]

I hope so. While I have new maps to explore I’ll be happy. Haha

[somber swallow]

although i wonder which season will give backstory context without telling it in murals?

coughprophecycough

i tried searching shofgouaoasif and it still hasn't brought me any closer to understanding its meaning

[old dove]

They are doing this since journey. They are quite good with mystery...
What is “shofgouaoasif”?

[somber swallow]

maybe if i searched it in discord and not google ill get answers

brb

i have the answer

shofgouaoasif is eden's true name

[old dove]

How?! Where is this info? Does it mean something special?

[somber swallow]

thats just how it be

i cannot provide more

[old dove]

Another mystery. Haha, every time I come here, I have more questions

[normal berry]

#general-sky-discussion message

the origin of shofgouaoasif

someone was comparing the name "eden" with gibberish during a discussion, and so "shofgouaoasif" became a long running inside joke

[graceful osprey]

that is a letmotif. a main theme/idea that represents something like a character, area, event, that is usually used in a play, movie, or game

[sullen mirage]

I’m glad I learned what a letmotif is cause I might use it in a game I’ll probably make in the future

[boreal nebula]

Do you know the far island in HomeSpace?

It's pink now 🔍

Not lore, I know, but at least give me the idea:

Lore fact: in case you didn't know, that Island was accessible (by the power of a glitch before the windwalls got buffed) and in that Island rockcliff appears the intro murals (the one we see only once , first time we log in "...the stars build a kingdom on clouds..." or something, idk the exact words)

[gilded spoke]

Does this look familiar

If only they had listened

[shell barn]

[hushed steeple]

I still have no clue what that "if only they listened" line means

[frank orbit]

I have a question:
So...We all know that in Sky, there's varioys type of people, many of them, and one of those are big chungus or fat people. That means, that they have digestive system, the question is:

Do Skykids eat? How do they eat? Did they remove their masks? Do Skykids can get fat? What's their main meal in their "menus"?

[hushed glen]

I always thought that skykids were able to eat, and they most likely remove their masks to eat. Don't think it's possible for them to eat with their mask on

[amber thicket]

I mean a skykid is just stone and light, why would they eat?

[frank orbit]

And do they get fat? For example, the Elder from World 2, Daylight Prairie? That's a big man right there, or the first spirit in the Valley of Triumph, the one in the mountain

[hushed glen]

I suppose so

[frank orbit]

In World 7/Golden Wasteland, there's a secret campfire with crabs in, so it means that Skykids eat, and I wonder if they can get chungus, why? I just unlocked the hair from the DP Elder, in other words, Big Chungus, so I decided to arrive here and ask to people if they know something about.

[amber thicket]

What if sky kids could remove their original stone like shell to better suit their physical environment?

[frank orbit]

This is a pretty complex question

[boreal nebula]

I think the ancestors can eat, but we as sky kids are not bind to this earthly system, our energy comes from the darkplants and flames and light

[hushed glen]

I personally think that skykids are like human children, but aren't actually human. So, probably, they can eat and get fat, etc, etc

They literally are children so

[frank orbit]

So now, if that's true, then what happened in the GW camp, there's a campfire with 3 crabs on, spinning, which means there's more Elders alive, which means they can teach more things than the spirits themselves

Because as long as this goes, Skykids can't eat, even if they remove their mask, there's no mouth, but...where does the "honk" comes from?

[hushed glen]

I like to think of the lore and stuff that is outside of the game itself

[hushed glen]

Very sure they have mouths, they're just not shown in-game

[boreal nebula]

i think that BBQ belongs to the Belonging guitar spirit

[hushed glen]

Yeah, since the spirit was found there

[boreal nebula]

but yeah, that would be interesting to know if that means belongings are family of spirits of a different generation than the ancestors...!

[frank orbit]

So to make a conclusion about this:
Skykids evolved into a point they don't need to eat anymore, that's why they all look the same in terms of weight, while the Elders did need food, that's why the Elder from DP and some others are fat.

[boreal nebula]

as far I know gratitude and rhythm are proved to be living at the time of the Sky people

gtg

[frank orbit]

Sleep well

WAIT!!!
THAT EMOJI YOU SEE A SKYKID WITH A CRAB, WHICH MEANS THEY EAT!!!

[hushed glen]

Aw man, cya!

[old dove]

Sorry but, to me Skykids don’t eat. And Skykids come from the stars. There is a sky kid landing in the isle and he is found by the “ushering stargazer” spirit.
When you revive his memories, he follows a star and find a skykid knocked out.

[pure peak]

I never noticed that before until now

[gray timber]

they suck energy and eat yellow children
Also, why do we need to have a permit to take off our masks?

The no mask mask is a permit for taking off our masks, why tho?

[jade river]

hello

[hushed steeple]

I feel like skids would just consume light

All they need is a light source as energy to survive

[frank orbit]

But she is chunky, and humans gets chunky by large amout of food, so Skykids can eat
See that? It seems thy can eat after all

[jade river]

there's a topic i want to talk, i do believe spirits themselves have 2 forms, an alive and a spirit form

the spirits that arrive during seasons and the ones we free in the realms are nothing more than just memories of that individual

meaning they're dead and in a spirit form

so i think the spirits are a extinct race that probably lives thanks to skykids reliving their memories?

im not really sure, what are your thoughts?

sorry for long text lol

[frank orbit]

I got kinda confused but I agree with you

[hushed steeple]

Yeah pretty much

[jade river]

basically what i think

spirits dead

but alive cuz we remember them

[hushed steeple]

I think a big reason why sky kids exist is to relive everything the ancestors went through. It technically keeps them alive. If something is never remembered, then it never existed.

[jade river]

exactly

[jade river]

those spirits may be the last spirits to have ever lived, considering their race is extint and only lives in the memories of skykids

That must be the most recent memory from all spirits ever

since its the only one that includes skykids

[frank orbit]

Similar to some games I played, for example FNaF, is the only way to free their souls, so they are trapped into a visible spirit, once we learn their move/taunt, thanks to our candles, which can take down humongous plants and is basically the God energy, which cleans their soul and the Elder is the Boss, and thanks ot the Boss, they're free now and rest in peace.

We need a new Sky game, maybe similar as a Chao Garden, but in the times before the Great Calamity, so we can understand how this ancient civilization was, because there's A LOT of things that we need to know, and we just know only the 10% from all of what happen besides of the first cutscene when you start the game by the first time.

I know it sounds dumb, but that's how I see things

[jade river]

YES I WANT A GAME THAT EXPLAINS THE DOWNFALL OF THE SKY KINGDOM, MAYBE A SINGLEPLAYER GAME BUT I WOULD LOVE A GAME THAT SHOWS THE LORE OF THE GAME PRIOR TO SKY

[hushed steeple]

The concept is also similar to my favorite anime, Serial Experiments Lain, where a girl makes everyone forget her.

A quote from it is "if you're not remembered, then you never existed"

[frank orbit]

Someone pin that, I think that that's the greatest krill I ever read before

[hushed steeple]

Also this quote

[jade river]

to think one day we humans may be forgotten forever

when the universe itself comes to an end

we may be gone forever

[hushed steeple]

We don't know if it'll end but

Yeah that sounds scary

[jade river]

yep

[hushed steeple]

oh also Lain and the default sky kid hair have very similar hairstyles so I feel like it's a reference (maybe)

And maybe that would support the theory even more that sky kids relive everything to keep the ancestors and such alive

That would be cool if so

But I think I'm just nerding out

[restive cosmos]

The ushering stargazer is a he?

[jade river]

@frank orbit grabbed all the attention of general chat, i support that idea with my soul and imma defend it til my death

krills

machines of living beings

what are your thoughts people?¿

[gray timber]

WE NEED A RQUEL SO WE KNOW HOW THE SPIRIRTS GOT DELETUS

[sudden sundial]

Okay so I noticed something today about the krill, they make these almost mechanical type sounds...has anyone else heard this?

Also just a what if: what if the krill are machines? Is there any lore that makes sense abt this mechanical sounds?

[jade river]

i do indeed believe krills are machines

war machines created during the civil war

designated to mercilessly haunt all light lifeforms

[pseudo heart]

Uhm,,, nor to be that person pls don't do anything to me

The "krills are machines" have been debunked and uhh they're natural creatures just as how light creatures are

But you're free to theorize however u want

[sudden sundial]

Oh really? Did tgc say that or...?

[sudden sundial]

I kinda think that too

[pseudo heart]

Somewhere I forgot hold up.. I'm very wary of sending links uhh

[sudden sundial]

Haha no worries

[pseudo heart]

Also

[jade river]

im aware of the theories that explain krills are living yet, im not convinced, seems they are carnivorous lifeforms, in my own timeline i do believe they were created with both organic and artificial emplacements, meaning they're like a mixture of both, their patterns are just too automatized

[pseudo heart]

I personally think that they're natural creatures

That came after the fall

[jade river]

the way the patrol, the way the attack

[pseudo heart]

They saw the darkness and went "imma make myself feel at home" and the rest is history

[jade river]

they spot you and sound like they're actually preparing a mechanism to absorb light

[sudden sundial]

Yeah I think they do have mechanical stuff going on. I mean it they were "natural creatures" why dont they change their routes?

[jade river]

they patrol the same routes when they detect lifeforms

[sudden sundial]

Yessss

[jade river]

so i believe

that krills are semi organical beings

both machines yet alive

like skykids at some degree

[sudden sundial]

I really do think they are machines, or cyborg animals of some kind

[pseudo heart]

Okay now semi organical beings—

[sudden sundial]

What are the theories on sky kids? @jade river

[pseudo heart]

That's interesting

[jade river]

im sure they're semi organical beings like machines that are alive

[sudden sundial]

Yeah, if they are machines, then who controlled them??? Its obvious that gw was where the battle and war went on

[jade river]

i do believe the forces of the king/prince controlled them

their patrol is highly defensive

used to stop assaulting forces

[sudden sundial]

Yeah, is the king the elder in gw?

[jade river]

also when you open the door to GW's temple 3 krills appear to hunt, like if they need to defend the gate

[sudden sundial]

Yeah

[jade river]

i think the king is dead on eden, the place were he made its last stand on the battle of eden

since eden also saw conflict

there are trenches, swords, defensive walls

even vault saw active combat, parts of the vault seem to be blown up

[sudden sundial]

Huh yeah, tbh I dont know much abt the lore. But I really want to absorb as much lore as I can haha

[jade river]

lore is awesome

its the only thing i never get bored of

[pseudo heart]

Okay okay now about the king force thing— Prophecy murals suggest that krills have existed long before the shiny boy (presumable the king) was coronated

[sudden sundial]

Yes it is!

[jade river]

maybe the light krills were transformed into machines that hunt light to restore their primordial forms?

in the murals they appear shiny and with light

[pseudo heart]

That's probably stylization

[jade river]

meaning they may have been genetically manipulated?

[pseudo heart]

Like how the ark mural has a light drawn krill

[jade river]

to hunt light and maybe restore light

[sudden sundial]

It's done in all art styles, the artist chose to make them look that way

[pseudo heart]

Which is the krill guarding the ark entrance

[jade river]

probably the ark was destroyed after the genetic manipulation happened

i do believe the ark's demise is due to the war

[sudden sundial]

So this king is the shiny boi in Eden? How does that work?

[jade river]

got in crossfire and attacked

also i doubt krills existed in the way they are prior to the wars

[pseudo heart]

Prophecy depicted how the shiny boi that fell was coronated (to king)

[sudden sundial]

I feel like the krill might have been made for the purpose of war

[jade river]

its assured defeat to fight a battle with dark dragons above

[pseudo heart]

The shiny boi in the prophecy murals

[jade river]

like charging against an enemy while enemy planes bomb you

it really makes no sense they existed prior

[sudden sundial]

Ahhhh I've only really inspected the murals on Arc bc they are easy to see

[jade river]

and shiny boi didnt hunt them to extinction

[sudden sundial]

Yeah I think they were made for war

[jade river]

what i i do believe:

krills were originally light lifeforms then transformed into dark beings that seek light to restore their original form

[gray timber]

Anybody know why we need a permit to take off our masks?

[jade river]

its like an evolution of being a skykid to an independent individual i think

[gray timber]

But why do you need to buy a permit?

[jade river]

in terms of safety is dumb to have such dangerous lifeforms in the fitst place, the most competent thing would be to hunt them to extinction. im sure the forms krills have today were different on the time of the coronation

unless the king somehow had a divine rule over krills making them docile and when the rebellion sparked they sided with the king¿

yet i do believe they were genetically manipulated

[sudden sundial]

Are there any lore articles abt this stuff that I could read?

[hushed steeple]

@sudden sundial pinned messages has a lot of stuff in Google docs

[pseudo heart]

I still think they're natural creatures

« The world of sky has a rich ecology of light and dark » - I'm mostly basing off this

I think they're natural occuring dark creatures as how light creature are, they're probably from another land/hidden somewhere else when the kingdom of sky was at its height (like how prophecy mural depicts one krill hidden amongst the cloud which also leads me to believe that some clouds are not natural) because well.. light was everywhere. When the fall happened, darkness penetrated, this led to the appearance of krill and infested the places with the most darkness i.e eden and wasteland

[pseudo heart]

I have the lore moth doc and other interesting links

[hushed steeple]

You can tell krills are natural by looking at them

[jade river]

im soon of releasing my own theory which obviously isnt canon at all, if you are interested tho

[pseudo heart]

I can dm them to you if you want

[hushed steeple]

I wonder how the sky world looked before darkness came

[jade river]

sure would like to know moth lore

[jade river]

i do believe it was a massive industrialized empire

[pastel brook]

I'm here to tri all the trials!

[hushed steeple]

Ok sky bot

Also yeah

[sudden sundial]

Where is this google doc at?

[pseudo heart]

Hello new Lore Moff!
Read this short document to get started! Once you’ve read this, check out pins for more information.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit

The Canon Lore Doc (can be found in pins)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ZWJRGiJSrIXgDvJ4pST61moZbVB_hBExUjOaF-pmOE/edit?usp=sharing
The Theory Vault (can also be found in pins)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-SOY_5WrhQ2ftVZEM9VMBsz92-n_53kBzQoHKmY2-24/edit?usp=sharing
Sky Leitmotifs
https://docs.google.com/document/d/19p_7mI1bI4fxKBk5ogVJCTsU7hzLJejqBgQTSJDAjuo/edit?usp=sharing
And make sure you check the pins, they are heaven to us theorists. :))

WHEEEEE

[hushed steeple]

^

[pseudo heart]

I WAS ABLE TO SEND THEM

[sudden sundial]

I would be interested in that

[jade river]

i do believe the main reason of the collapse of the sky kingdom was massive amounts of pollution that lead to rebellions, civil war, developement of the eden diamond, eden diamond kills everything

[pseudo heart]

plsdontdoanythingtomemods

[sudden sundial]

Tysm!

[hushed steeple]

I agree

[jade river]

the kingdom collapsed on its goal of achieving more power

[pseudo heart]

Yes

Exactly

[hushed steeple]

I wonder if darkness and light always existed balanced together, and darkness wasn't always "evil" or dangerous, it was just as much as a necessity as light is.

[jade river]

im soon gonna write an article that defines my theories about the universe of sky

[pseudo heart]

I agree with this

[hushed steeple]

Epic

[pseudo heart]

Again «The world of Sky has a rich ecology of light and dark»

[sudden sundial]

When u do pls post it here! I'd love to read it!

[slate saffron]

Well, there was dark stone which was used for practically everything the ancestors bulit!

[pseudo heart]

It was only when that balance was thrown off that the world of sky became well

Whatever the heck is happenin

[hushed steeple]

Oh?

[jade river]

the origins of the spirit kind
evolution
unification (by the trials and coronation)
consolidation
industrialization (diamond revolution)
civil war
collapse
darkness era
beginin of the skykid era
modern skykid era

this is what my theory covers

[pseudo heart]

Iirc darkstone was an old beta thing?? It was replaced by power diamonds

[jade river]

but until i gather enough info, evidence and more i wont release it

who knows, maybe TGC can take my theory as canon lmai

that would be pog

[slate saffron]

The power diamonds are made of darkstone

Which gives it's light absorbing/retaining properties

[jade river]

the eden diamond when activated caused most of the light to be absorbed

leading to a total debalance of light and darkness

when the darkness era ended skykids began to slowly spread light in the world

leading to today

skykid's influence is expanding gradually

soon they'll form a civilization

[slate saffron]

It could just be that the eden diamond just started the storm and didn't really absorb anything

[jade river]

and if what many people say its true, maybe history will repeat itself

[sudden sundial]

Dude I would 100% read this

[hushed steeple]

Eden diamond seems to spit things out tbh

[pseudo heart]

Someone here described the eden diamond as something akin to a white hole which was very interesting

[jade river]

imma make sure that everyone who reads my theory knows that its not canon until TGC said so

[hushed steeple]

Is a white hole the opposite of a black whole

[pseudo heart]

Yes

[hushed steeple]

o

[slate saffron]

The diamond may have just been a rather large version of it's smaller counterparts and was designed to have been used in some great mega-project, but was damaged somehow and begun spewing out it's (seemingly) limitless light

[jade river]

the closer you get, the more difficult is to reach it

[pseudo heart]

Instead of sucking things in, it spits things out

[jade river]

leading to a point where you are so close yet its impossible to reach

i do believe the eden diamond works like a massive generator of energy

absorbs light and transforms it into pure energy

on smaller diamonds this energy powers machinery and makes levitating properties

but in a bigger size, it spits it out as geisher uncontrollably

absorbs the light, transforms it into energy, fires it back to the universe

[gray timber]

so the eden diamond is a whitehole?

[jade river]

or even more easier, it can be a massive mirror effect

all light absorbed is released 20 times stronger

[hushed steeple]

@gray timber maybe

[jade river]

causing beams of powerful light

i do believe that

[sudden sundial]

Yeah I wanna know, I've always been curious

[pseudo heart]

I think the diamond was supposed to be at the top of the vault-like eden spire, It's supposed to help with the orbit beam and depends on this "balance"

[slate saffron]

It could just be spewing out already stored energy and not particularly absorbing anything

[pseudo heart]

And when this balance broke uhh ye

[hushed steeple]

I wonder why the Eden diamond was made

[jade river]

true

[jade river]

possibly to have an endless supply of energy

[pseudo heart]

I also think the elders falling out of their wisdoms was another factor that added to the downfall of sky

[slate saffron]

I think It may have been designed for use in the eden castle as part of some larger construction project

[jade river]

i do believe the king/prince wanted to spread hthe kingdom's capacity and make it maybe a galactic kingdom?

[hushed steeple]

oo

[jade river]

basically power

[pseudo heart]

Or maybe as a way to "go home"

[slate saffron]

Actually wait a minute, are there other planets in sky?

[pseudo heart]

Uhhh ye

[jade river]

BACK TO THE STARS YEAHHH, THATS PART OF MY THEORY

[hushed steeple]

In the end credits

[pseudo heart]

Ending credits

[slate saffron]

Ooo

[jade river]

spirits were once celestial beings ruling the universe

i do believe the king/prince wants to make his race go back to that status

[hushed steeple]

That's a unique theory

[jade river]

its st valentine's day here on my country

i should be texting my gf

but

lore

is

more

important

[hushed steeple]

:(

[jade river]

i texted my gf

she may be sleeping tho

idk

[sudden sundial]

Okay so I read the google doc, wheres this Megabird in game? I've never seen anything like that in game...

[hushed steeple]

They're in end credits

But that's them

A giant pheonix looking entity

[sudden sundial]

Huh, I've only seen the end credits the first time I went thro as a moth. Next time I go through I'll watch it all the way thro again

[hushed steeple]

They also seem to be on the mural of that giant ship wrecked boat in GW

[pseudo heart]

She used to be a very big thing in the concepts

[slate saffron]

SUPREME LEADER MEGAN

[hushed steeple]

Jhxjhxihdihd

[pseudo heart]

Oh how I've missed hearing this name

[jade river]

the ending credits thing isnt a living thing tbh

but more like

a filament of galaxies

[hushed steeple]

I think she's just made up of a bunch of stars and stuff

[pseudo heart]

Okay but astrolatry is a thing

[jade river]

a nebulae?

[pseudo heart]

A supercluster

She actually looks like our home supercluster, Laniakea

[jade river]

EXACTLY

[hushed steeple]

Woah irl megabird lmao

[jade river]

@pseudo heart we share a lot of theories my friend

THE MEGABIRD SUPERCLUSTER

[pseudo heart]

Life imitates art amiright

[hushed steeple]

Kinda

Art imitates life

[pseudo heart]

No

Life imitates art

I said what I said

[hushed steeple]

How

[gray timber]

Petition to rename this supercluster megabirb

[pseudo heart]

Sky power so big the universe based off it

[hushed steeple]

Oh

Lol

[jade river]

megabird supercluster

estimated size: 190 to 250 million light years

[pseudo heart]

Also meaning "Immense heaven"

Sooooo

[jade river]

laniakea is just the first of the multiple supercluster

[normal berry]

the megabird being a giant mass of stars seems fitting

[pseudo heart]

Yes hh

[jade river]

*galaxies

a supercluster is composed of galaxies not stars

[normal berry]

I mean galaxies contain stars

[pseudo heart]

U kno.. if the laniakea supercluster is visible from the land of sky.. then that means that they're from somewhere else, which means they're alien lifeforms observing and worshipping our supercluster—

Omw to nasa rn

[jade river]

10 BILLION LIGHT YEARS THIS IS NUTS

laniakea isnt the biggest supercluster

[pseudo heart]

But it's where our galaxy is in

Sooo

[jade river]

so its probably the ones seeing them are far far away

[jade river]

its the most probable size

[pseudo heart]

Yee

[jade river]

i think the megabird supercluster is roughly the same size than leniakea

[pseudo heart]

Okay so that means—, we're just staring at each other

[jade river]

*laniakea

[gray timber]

or they live in another galaxy in the same supercluster

[pseudo heart]

If u look at the night sky then a skykid is staring back at u

Somewhere

[jade river]

i just sent the hercules borealis great wall to show how mind blowing the universe is

[gray timber]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[pseudo heart]

Okay this too

[normal berry]

there's a lot of them staring back actually

[jade river]

harassment

bottom text

[pseudo heart]

JWHSNSJAISKSA

[normal berry]

oh you're right the megabird looks just like a supercluster

[jade river]

@pseudo heart let me befriend u, discussing lore with u its just too awesome to just type today and never see u again lmao

[pseudo heart]

Omg sure sure lmaooo

Noice

[jade river]

poggers

@normal berry u too

[normal berry]

oh ye

[pseudo heart]

It's good to be back here to lore

[jade river]

lore is the only thing that motivates me to play sky now lmao

[pseudo heart]

Mood tho

[jade river]

also i have a question, you think dream's village is one of the poorest areas of the capital¿ (valley of triumph)

[sudden sundial]

Maybe...

[pseudo heart]

I personally think they're middle class

[sudden sundial]

^^^

[pseudo heart]

Okay hold up lemme grab my map—

The poorest ones are GW level and mid class are the building peeking from the clouds

[sudden sundial]

Yeah bc just think about any tourist spot irl, they get revenue bc ppl come there and stay there overnight to get food and so when ppl travel to see the ppl in the citdeial...etc

[sudden sundial]

Theres maps?!?!? Omg I want all the maps

[pseudo heart]

It's what I think the valley and gw layout is hhhh,, unfortunately I don't have anything else

I also think that the clouds enveloping GW and Valley are not natural

[sudden sundial]

Darn, well post them here if and when u make new ones

[pseudo heart]

I will dw!

[sudden sundial]

Wydm? Like man made clouds or a spell?

[pseudo heart]

I hope to make more graphs and charts

[jade river]

OK I LOVE THIS

ALI THAT'S AWESOME MAN

I BELIEVE ON WHAT U SAY

[pseudo heart]

Like something that came with the darkness that fell

[sudden sundial]

Ahhh, like how clouds fall to the ground creating fog irl

[pseudo heart]

Yes exactly

[normal berry]

pollution like forest?

[jade river]

exactly

those clouds arent natural

those definetelt are leftovers of the storm

[pseudo heart]

Yes yes

[sudden sundial]

So are all the clouds that have wind barriers considered not natural?

[jade river]

charged with light

[jade river]

exactly

a lot of valley is engulfed by clouds

[pseudo heart]

I also think that as more areas appear, it means the unnatural clouds are receding which means the storm is calming down

[jade river]

EXACTLY

[pseudo heart]

The devs have mentioned that what we see most of valley rn are just its peak

[sudden sundial]

THATS MAKES A LOT OF SENSE

[jade river]

AS MORE SEASONAL REALMS APPEAR MEANS THAT THE LEFTOVERS OF THE SKY STORM IS LOOSING POWER

[normal berry]

finally

now let's go start up the storm again

[sudden sundial]

OMG ANDTHE MORE SEASONS THE MORE SKY IS RECOVERING

[jade river]

I CALL THAT CLOUD DECAYMENT, I THEORIZED THAT WHEN SANCTUARY APPEAR

SINCE SANCTUARY'S ENTRANCE WAS ONCE CLOUDS

[sudden sundial]

Omg I could talk lore all night

[pseudo heart]

y e s

Welcome to the lore chat lmao

Now u can never get out

[sudden sundial]

I dont wanna get out. I feel enlightened

[jade river]

w h o. s a i d. i w a n t e d. t o. l e a v e

all skykids ik: prodigies on music, social butterflies, etc

me: mobile sky wikipedia

[pseudo heart]

Le g i t

[jade river]

man this is why i love season of prophecy so much its packed with LORE MAN

[sudden sundial]

I dont know much abt the cave writings. ENLIGHTEN ME

[gray timber]

AND WE GET MORE PUZZLE PIECES

[gray timber]

not like other skids✨

[jade river]

my thoughts about the trials are that they were created to crown a monarch that will rule all over the sky realms

[sudden sundial]

Omg yessss

[jade river]

the test involved multiple feelings, patience, strength, balance, valor

the prince/king or shiny boi won

[normal berry]

so my theory for the storm, sorry for butting in:
the eden diamond functions the same way as normal power diamonds, as in it uses light (usually from your candle) and uses the energy to perform a task. except I believe they wanted to use orbit's light to power the eden diamond. think about it, a haven full of light, it's the perfect energy source. except they miscalculated how powerful it was, then the connection began, orbit overwhelmed the eden diamond and all that energy needed to be put somewhere so where did it go? it was released into the kingdom as the storm

[sudden sundial]

To test their worthiness of the crown

[jade river]

being crowned and ascending to become the first and only monarch of the sky kingdom

the paintings represent, the trials, who failed, who triumphed, the coronation and the story of the early kingdom

[normal berry]

so what was the prince?

an elder?

[sudden sundial]

No, please butt in! The more lore the merrier!!

[jade river]

i do think this can be true tho

[jade river]

yeah like eden's elder

the ruler of the sky kingdom

[gray timber]

did it have criteria or nah?

[normal berry]

perhaps they anticipated the elders' decent into the sky kingdom, the prophecy foretold one of them would rule, but which one? so they built the trials to find the true king

[jade river]

E X A C T L Y

[hushed steeple]

if that is true, does that mean if we get s eden season storm will be almost gone?

[jade river]

maybe only time will tell

[sudden sundial]

And then...SKY 2

But yeah only time will tell

[pseudo heart]

Aight I have to go cr hhh was nice lore-ing with u guys !

[normal berry]

I mean they said something like sky was only the beginning

[sudden sundial]

Bye! Loved talking lore with you!

[jade river]

good luck my friend, a pleasure talking to lore with u!!!!

[gray timber]

like;
less time = better chance at being ruler
death and respawn = less chance

[normal berry]

byeee!

[jade river]

yeah

[normal berry]

maybe only the prince could complete all four

[jade river]

or maybe the original trials were deadlier than before

and made the other contestants die

[normal berry]

oop

[jade river]

it was a long time ago, spirits didnt have human rights tbh

[gray timber]

Like die die or die and then you go back to the beginning die

[normal berry]

but as we can see, the elder's aren't dead which means... it wasn't just the elders attempting the trials

[jade river]

i think spirits died permanently in the trials

not like skykids

cuz seems we just see the trials as a hallucination

not as a real thing

idk tbh

[sudden sundial]

Yeah bc our whole purpose is to bring back light and then be reborn to do it again

[normal berry]

I mean it seems we are meditating while "doing" the trials

[jade river]

probably

[gray timber]

so it was all a dream?

[normal berry]

perhaps

alright I gotta get to hw I'll see you guys later

[hushed glen]

So we never did the actual trials?

[normal berry]

bye byeee

[hushed glen]

Aw cya

[sudden sundial]

So are the Elders like alive or dead? And did they rule the diff realms? Idk much abt rhe Elders

[jade river]

aw, goodbye!!

[gray timber]

and we went through so much for a shiny?

[jade river]

dead on the sky world, alive on orbit and our memories

[icy bison]

They're dead. They each have their own inventions or achievements that made them elders

Also, I found the symbol of the king at isle of dawn

[jade river]

wot!

show it

[hushed glen]

All elders seem to have a specific tool they use, which is what their constellations are based on

[sudden sundial]

Where? I need evidence

[icy bison]

Lemme get a pic. As you know, the king is represented by a four pointed star

[sudden sundial]

Yeah I noticed that after my first two months of playing

[hushed glen]

Isle - staff
Prairie - pot
Forest - hammer
Valley - sticks of some sort?
Wastleand - sword and shield
Vault - lantern

[hushed glen]

Same

[jade river]

Cricket things idk

[sudden sundial]

I look at them and think they are one either practice battling sticks or those things that look like marshmallows on the ends that u hit ppl with

[hushed glen]

They kinda look like hockey sticks to me

[sudden sundial]

I can see hockey sticks

But there's also a ball that they pass around rly fast right? Perhaps it's an early form of lacrosse?

[jade river]

Isle, staff that represents our elder staff!

Forest, the hammer used by the creator of diamonds

Valley, staffa of competition, represent the sports played here

Wasteland, spear used by the now dead troops

Vault, lantern of knowledge storing the ancestor's stories

Praire, POT

[sudden sundial]

I also know theres a game similar to that with sticks and a ball that's from American Indians. But don't quote me on that

[jade river]

Haha pot goes butterfly sound

[hushed glen]

The masks they wear also represent their constellations i think

Such as prairie elder

[jade river]

Im going to sleep now bois

[hushed glen]

Whose mask is just pot

[jade river]

Its 1 AM

So goodnight lads!

[hushed glen]

Oh okay, gn, sleep well

[sudden sundial]

Praire

Yeah I need to go bed too, gn guys! Live talking lore with us and hope to do it soon!

[hushed glen]

Gn!

[icy bison]

Its hard to get a pic

But the king is in that mural above the door

[plain dune]

The big one looks like the eden realm and the others looks like a realm too at home. I don’t know about the 4 statues infront of the portal tho

[icy bison]

notice how the figure in the middle has a four starred mask like the one the king is usually depicted with, you;ll have to see the cutscene to see it properly

[hushed steeple]

Eeyep

[bitter shale]

noice

[wind bone]

Just saying we didn’t ban the docs or anything, we just said to not to tell people to read them unless they explicitly asked for them, like one of those docs is over 60 pages long and being told that you should read it makes people not want to participate

[uneven grotto]

Nice look at element spells given to the people presumably on the ark. Next scenes show ark falling from sky with all the people (and i think the elements as well?), and then the krill in the sky last.

Always like taking close looks at ark and prophecy.

[true grove]

Pspspspsps Same colors from the ark lights were used for different elements in prophecy.
Fire
Earth
Air
Water

[limpid basin]

I assume skids glow when ascending because that's where power is highest for them?

[pale mason]

Hello

Btw this isn't fire. This is fire symbol if you're talking about Ark

[wild iron]

I thought those were fireworks?

[icy bison]

Yes, we're being made into pure light energy, since our "p hysical" forms are stone statues in eden. Every single light being comes from light, and can be made into energy.

@limpid basin our goal is to bring light to the world of sky and save the fallen stars.

[limpid basin]

I see!

[icy bison]

Notice how the same blue glow that comes from fallen skids is the same used In powering power crystals

[limpid basin]

Yeah

[icy bison]

If anyone has lore question feel free to ask

[limpid basin]

Why is Eden, well, Eden?

Why is it so

Dead

[icy bison]

Ah.

Ok, so the running theory is, that eden was supposed to be something of a more grand valley of triumph, home to the kings palace. But they were also on the quest for power.

Power, in power crystals.

Notice how the blue normal crystals don't last forever. They have to be powered nearly constantly, and they don't always stay on

[limpid basin]

Ah

[icy bison]

So the theory is that they were trying to make a more powerful power crystal

One that could absorb light and keep producing energy to power things

That's why the red crystals exist. They were the "solution"

however, as you can see. they are volatile, and can't be turned off. they constantly suck in light, and are probably unstable

The eden crystal was like the crystal used to power the elevator in vault, but much bigger.

something went wrong with the eden crystal, it became volatile. like a star. blackholes exist because stars die, and suck in light.

which is why eden is so dark. the eden crystal is sucking in all the light from around it.

corrupting the landscape

[limpid basin]

So basically it was too powerful to be safe?

[icy bison]

TLDR; the eden crystal was originally meant to be a large power source, but went crazy, started sucking in light like crazy. eden is basically the center of a blackhole

[spare ember]

thats wild

i've been seeing mentions of a king and prince? who are they

[limpid basin]

Hm?

[icy bison]

oh, the king? he was the ruler, and leader of the elders. he's responsible for the downfall of sky.

he is usually represented as a tall figure with a four pointed star as a head / mask.

[limpid basin]

(I believe I asked first)

[icy bison]

yup. it was volatile. it was unstable.

[limpid basin]

Ah

[hushed steeple]

Interesting. Earlier, some of us were wondering if the Eden diamond was actually a white hole.

[limpid basin]

So what you're saying is that they should've used smaller more manageable crystals

But went too greedy

[icy bison]

yeah. they wanted something that would hold a lot of power and generally low maintenance.

the prince can be seen in the cave of prophecy

i have a theory he was one of the first sky children, a predecessor to us. he can be seen defeating the trials, etc.

the places where the king is the most prominent is the golden wasteland, right before you enter vault.

[hushed steeple]

What do you think of the prince possibly being the king too? Cuz that's a common seeming theory

That they're both the same character

[icy bison]

here is some concept designs for the elders. the prince is also pictured here, at the very right

other concept art:

[hushed steeple]

He has the same helmet as the king does

Maybe the helmet just resembles royalty and great authority tho

[icy bison]

the king has the four sided star. the prince has an eight sided star

[limpid basin]

They do be a babey tho ngl

[hushed steeple]

Seems like the same helmet

Or drastically similar at least

[limpid basin]

Relating this, why does GW look like some Nuclear Wasteland? It's not directly connected to Eden

[icy bison]

Wait, that's the king

yeah

[hushed steeple]

War

[icy bison]

Golden wasteland was the nuclear powerplant in sky

no, it was the nuclear power plant.

[limpid basin]

Why does it still look curs-oh

[hushed steeple]

@icy bison there's evidence that war and battle took place

[icy bison]

nuclear waste is highly volatile, and nuclear factories keep their waste and keep polluting hundreds of years afterwards.

also, all the pipes.

it was a factory.

[limpid basin]

Usually warzones look like normal Earth after a while

[hushed steeple]

Shields, spears, other war-like things at the end of GW

So yeah, nuclear factories, but also war ruined GW

[limpid basin]

Is it implied that that is actual nuclear or just something else

Light absorption etc

[icy bison]

other concept art

[hushed steeple]

Who knows

-"damaged from battle"

[icy bison]

there is also this. megabird was apparently the god of sky? the creator.

[limpid basin]

I'm not gonna unfairly attribute it to Nuclear

[limpid basin]

Huh!

[icy bison]

these should help

[limpid basin]

Ancestors are humanity

Creatures are monke

[icy bison]

i think the king and the prince are there

that's the prince, right after us.

and then the king.

right after wasteland elder.

EVEN MORE

king was four pointed star.

[hushed steeple]

Corrupted descendant looks creepy

[icy bison]

you see them in eden

[hushed steeple]

Also looks like they're in a crucified pose

[icy bison]

as you're making your way to PNR

[hushed steeple]

Even more creepy lol

[limpid basin]

How would the corrupted king look like

[icy bison]

come get your food

[limpid basin]

Wait what the hell

Screenshots

[icy bison]

this is all official art

here's the king.

[limpid basin]

Ah

[hushed steeple]

Also at the bottom right corner

[limpid basin]

I want screenshots

[hushed steeple]

On top of Eden

[limpid basin]

Ah

[hushed steeple]

Oh

There's no corrupted king in game

So can't screenshot him

There's only concept art

[bitter shale]

Yea

[limpid basin]

Odd way to spell corrupted king ig

[hushed steeple]

Was talking about that

[bitter shale]

Seems like they reffering to this one lol

Oop

[limpid basin]

What

[hushed steeple]

What

Scroll up ig

[icy bison]

confirmed, the king had a four sided star mask, the prince has a eight sided

[limpid basin]

sigh

I was, for the idunno how many times now, asking for screenshots of the corrupted descendants

[hushed steeple]

So then the concept art for king here was in the past, and they changed it to him only having four sided spikes?

[icy bison]

four prominent spikes. the prince has eight prominent, rather than the four

[limpid basin]

Do you have a screenshot? I wanna see

[icy bison]

https://www.tomzhao.com/sky1

here.

[hushed steeple]

Oh okay

[icy bison]

this contains all concept art.

[limpid basin]

Why do I even bother

[icy bison]

go see them yourself

i'll show you next time i go to eden

[limpid basin]

I already did Eden yesterday

[icy bison]

they're before pnr

[limpid basin]

That's not my point

[icy bison]

at the second to last checkpoint, after you go past the krill pipes.

there is one right next to the second checkpoint.

[hushed steeple]

Yeah those

[bitter shale]

not my best screenshot, ig

but meh

[limpid basin]

Those look like normal statues

I've seen those

[bitter shale]

blue crystal

[hushed steeple]

That's what the corrupted descendants look like in game

[icy bison]

yeah.

[limpid basin]

I was expecting something more angular and cursed :(

Well, sorry to bother y'all for this

[hushed steeple]

Yeah it would of been cool if they looked like the one in the concept art

Also you're fine

[bitter shale]

you not a bother fam

[limpid basin]

Oh

[spare ember]

tgc concept artists are so talented,,,,

all the motifs and color shape associations are so well thought out

[hushed steeple]

I love how there's so much creepiness in the concept art

But then the game is just

Cute and wholesome

Even Eden isn't as creepy as the concept art

[spare ember]

yes omg

[bitter shale]

Well eden was more creepier in light awaits lil

Lol

[hushed steeple]

Yeah

[spare ember]

gw and eden make me yell so much though lmao i dont do well with the loud noises all of a sudden

[hushed steeple]

Beta Eden right?

[bitter shale]

With those flying shattered elder statues everywhere

Yep

[limpid basin]

I like the final design of the Krills

[bitter shale]

Blue eden

[limpid basin]

But I wish they kept the concept art design for the corrupted children

[spare ember]

oh word??

[hushed steeple]

Blue Eden looked so cool

[icy bison]

wasteland king statue

[hushed steeple]

Probably couldn't because maybe it would be too hard to make and replicate each corrupted kid, and maybe they also didn't want to make the game too creepy

Idk tho

[icy bison]

the.. concept art.. melts

[bitter shale]

Ah yes

[hushed steeple]

That krill tho

[bitter shale]

Ling dementor

Long

[limpid basin]

Yeah tho it would've given off the feeling of doom much better

[hushed steeple]

Yeah it would of

[limpid basin]

Also this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RnrgFhtD4w

[hushed steeple]

That concept art krill reminds me of those ghosty, soul sucking creatures from Harry Potter lmao

[icy bison]

this is a free game, not even a freemium game. they don't have the budget, most likely.

[limpid basin]

Yeah fair

[hushed steeple]

I wonder why blue Eden was scrapped

[limpid basin]

Creepy, I like it!

[bitter shale]

because they know old phones will literally explode

haha

[hushed steeple]

o

[limpid basin]

Yeah fair

It would've made sense if Sky was originally made to be a PC/console game you'd have to pay for

[icy bison]

their predecessor, journey, nearly made them bankrupt.

[limpid basin]

ooof :(

[hushed steeple]

Maybe eventually they'll make a PC game

[bitter shale]

btw

[icy bison]

it was on PS4

[limpid basin]

Yeah

OH

[hushed steeple]

And PS3

[icy bison]

the king statue. holy, how did you get there?

[bitter shale]

ps5 when

[limpid basin]

Is this an oob or is it in the normal areas and where

[bitter shale]

lots of flying and a friend

[hushed steeple]

Rocket glitch probably

[limpid basin]

Pain

[bitter shale]

normal area, above wasteland temple

[limpid basin]

Oh!

In Temple or Battlefield?

[icy bison]

yeah, the wasteland temple, right before you enter vault.

[bitter shale]

battlefield, temple entrance

[limpid basin]

Ah

Wait wait wait

Inside of the Temple or outside in the Battlefield

[icy bison]

where you have to power the crystal to open the door.

[icy bison]

outside in battlefield.

[bitter shale]

yes, this

[limpid basin]

Ah

[bitter shale]

outside

[limpid basin]

Kinda conflicts

[icy bison]

just look up at the temple.

[limpid basin]

I will on my next CR

[bitter shale]

notice the enormous wall behind it

[limpid basin]

Yeah

Also darn looking at the Light Awaits Eden

It looks so unoptimized

Look at those textures

[hushed steeple]

I can feel the lag

And I can see the app shutting down

Going into blue Eden zihdixhihx

[bitter shale]

current eden

yeah someone actually brave enough to do oob here lmao

[hushed steeple]

Holy

LOOK AT THAT DIAMOND

[bitter shale]

big

and look at the darkness trails

gtg, cya all later

[hushed steeple]

o

Bye

[limpid basin]

oooo nice

Does the Diamond insta kill you

[icy bison]

well..

[bitter shale]

nah

maybe idk, no one ever can rach it

reach

[limpid basin]

Shame

[bitter shale]

cause wind wall so strong surrounding the diamond

[limpid basin]

It should since it p much absorbs light A LOT

[hushed steeple]

It seems like the diamond is just... Spitting everything out

[bitter shale]

you cant even touch it

[icy bison]

they used to have towers :wheeze:

[hushed steeple]

Like everything is blowing away from the diamond

[limpid basin]

Why was there Wax in Light Awaits Eden wth

[bitter shale]

turrets

they once have turrets

now all we got are some unactive cannons

[limpid basin]

Screenshot?

If you do already have one

[bitter shale]

not that i complain haha

well

[limpid basin]

Ah

[bitter shale]

this king statue speculated to be some kind of cannons once

[limpid basin]

Why isn't Sky an adventure psychological horror game

[hushed steeple]

Idk

[limpid basin]

/s

[bitter shale]

it is not?

[limpid basin]

Oh lol

[hushed steeple]

It kinda ends up being a psychological horror when you really get into the lore

[limpid basin]

Yeah fair

[bitter shale]

One thing for sure, that diamond was originally build under the castle

Many stuff implied this

But most noticeable is teh flying castle

[limpid basin]

tbh the floating part you see as far back as Isle kinda looks broken off

[bitter shale]

Indeed

[spare ember]

at first it thought the diamond was a hole

and if u got to it you beat the game

lol

what do you call this?

[hushed steeple]

Wdym

[bitter shale]

Wormhole?

[spare ember]

this

[bitter shale]

Ohh

Whale

[hushed steeple]

Oh that

Not a whale

A specific fish

[spare ember]

theres whales in the vault right?

[bitter shale]

Its whurtle or whale, choose yours

[hushed steeple]

I keep forgetting the name of the dang fish

[bitter shale]

Arowana?

[hushed steeple]

Nor a whurtle either

[spare ember]

i cant remember much about gw and the vault bc i play them so late at night

[hushed steeple]

I think it started with an M

[bitter shale]

Macarena?

Imo that fish looks like arowana the most

[hushed steeple]

Yes

Wait I think

Hold on

[spare ember]

i think someone mentioned the name here before but i cant remember at all huhu

[bitter shale]

Ah :<

[hushed steeple]

#lore-discussion-spoilers message

[bitter shale]

Been a while since i active here haha, so id ont know much either

[hushed steeple]

COELACANTHS

[bitter shale]

Thats not started with M

[hushed steeple]

I know

I'm really bad at names and stuff

[bitter shale]

Anyway, yah that fish seems to have a large lower jaw at least

[bitter shale]

Thats fine

Ohh

[hushed steeple]

@spare ember it's a coelacanth

It's just easier to compare them to whales because they're giant fishes

[spare ember]

yeah haha

okay thanks!!

mcoelacanth

[hushed steeple]

Lmao np

[true grove]

I was talking about colors

[hushed steeple]

Wouldn't be the red light we have to get near the ark in gw

The orange light was in uhhhh forest

[limpid basin]

See le canth

Seal a canth

[hushed steeple]

Wot

[limpid basin]

Coelacanth but make it funny

[old dove]

This one is different right? It’s beyond the wind wall in the Sanctuary islands.

So which one of the two is the skeleton in Forest. The one that crashed on a building.

[primal sierra]

I think it's a king manta

It honestly gives me the same vibes as Monster Hunter's Jhen Mohran

[old dove]

I’m not sure. The big manta is up the island and it leads you to the cataracts in the clouds. No?
Sorry, I don’t know that other game.

[pseudo heart]

Okay so

The ones in the GW-Valley transition, HF caverns, and orbit ascension are whales

The one in Sanctuary islands is an elder manta

Iirc the ones in the HF boneyard and GW graveyard are whurtles which are extinct in the current Sky? Correct me if I'm wrong

[next mist]

I was thinking is the main quest giver for this season also the little girl in the memories?

[pseudo heart]

I don't think so, I personally think that they're a parental? Figure to the girl

[old dove]

This morning someone said whales and whurtles are the same. It just depends on how you prefer to call them. They are not?

About season of dreams, I wonder. I though the same. Or maybe the quest giver is just another habitant of the village. And looks at that little “spark” that lit enthusiasm in this community.

[bitter shale]

hmmm so i kinda wonder, what makes mantas have so many forms?

you see those thin sliced mushroom mantas and elder mantas in sanct, and the most common is the average sized two winged mantas

then i conclude that mantas actually evolving according by how many times they experience the life cycle

the one who just got created are those thin sliced mushroom mantas

and the oldest would be elder manta

this could explain why elder manta is the rarest and the average sized two winged are the most common

[restive cosmos]

By the way is home space canon

[zinc elm]

when entering the sliding race from ice rink, there are red banners hung from the top. If you fly through them, they will recharge your cape. do you think that this could be some kind of reference to the carpets in Journey?

[old dove]

This is from the concept art of the game. I agree with you about their life cycle. Although there is something off about that. If they die and rebord. How could they get bigger each time.
I have another theory. If butterflies, birds and mantas were used as sources of natural light to create power diamonds and kept in silos, that would explain why the animal population is so “young”.

A butterfly or bird silo. These are present in the game zone before the access to Sanctuary Islands.
The little door is far too small for an ancestor to get in, and even for a child of light.

[old dove]

I don’t think the dev went so far In theorising about mantas. And the islands are a touristic spot. It has been kept untouched. Besides the bell wall to call animals.

[old dove]

It could be a relic from Journey.

[amber zinc]

Why did my lantern disappear?

ask sb for help

[true grove]

What

[amber zinc]

The lanterns I bought before disappeared

[true grove]

Oh

You should ask questions in #questions-and-help this is a lore discussion chat

[amber zinc]

thank you

[icy bison]

@amber zinc please delete your images, lore only here 💃

[old dove]

Guys, what are these light orbs in the Isle of Dawn?
In the first fresco, there are three stars falling from the sky. Could it be that? Something they kept here and untouched?
On the forgotten ark fresco it is revealed that a star is taking an orb shape after some sort of manipulation where scholars encapsulate the light. Then it becomes a « spell ».

[limpid basin]

Why is the area above Eden, Ascension that is, so bright and full of light and energy, even compared to lower realms like Isle and Prairie?

[old dove]

I think that the top of the mountain where Eden is, is the point where the sky kingdom unite with orbit (the place where you go after completing Eden).
And if we assume that orbit is the realm of rebirth and stars, then it’s so bright because it symbolises life, infinite energy and light.
This fresco is in the cave of prophecy.

[queen jungle]

Okay, so continuing with the krill debate. Maybe they aren't machines. Maybe they were born naturally. But.. what if later they were augmented?

[sly pasture]

That's a good point, I always thought that they were creatures of dark, but the light they emit doesn't seem.. natural

[graceful osprey]

darkstone light

[queen jungle]

Yeah and the sounds they make.. like the whirring after they spot you.

[sly pasture]

A friend of mine talked about the Power Crystals, and how they can both be charged with darkness (red color, as in Eden) or light (as in any door in the game)

[queen jungle]

:0

The Power Diamonds.

[sly pasture]

yep, and what's the neutral color of a Power Diamond? blue

[graceful osprey]

where do you find the first image?

[sly pasture]

the same as the light the Krill emits when idle

[limpid basin]

Also is the huge triangle surrounded by person-like figures in Prophecy Mural Eden?

[graceful osprey]

yes

[lyric isle]

Willing to believe krill are cyborgs

[slate saffron]

They're probably spells or magic like the ones on the shop-ship at home!

[graceful osprey]

concentrated light

[sly pasture]

It was part of a spirit memory, you should look that up for more context

[slate saffron]

All creatures in sky are naturally born

The krill are naturally this horrible

[graceful osprey]

i dont think they are

[lyric isle]

yes I know
that sentence is what killed lots of my theories

[graceful osprey]

i still think that they were corrupted elder mantas and whales

[lyric isle]

They are born as natural beings, but note that

[queen jungle]

It's possible that natural means uhm.. not robots.

[lyric isle]

yes

[limpid basin]

Ferryman Ancestor is the Isle one right?

[sly pasture]

but that would beg the question: who augmented the krills?

[slate saffron]

Possibly! That would make sense based on the concept art

[queen jungle]

Maybe there'll be a future season to explain this. Maybe it already has been in Enchantment. The Ark has a giant krill on it.

[graceful osprey]

or maybe some elder creatures were supposed to become krill, as if it was natural and kept balance. maybe the krill that we have today are too corrupted and aggressive

[queen jungle]

Ah yes, the light and dark balance theory.

[graceful osprey]

da wat?

[limpid basin]

Ny'all?

[graceful osprey]

yes it is

i think

[queen jungle]

The theory that darkness and light are balanced. Not too much of either.

[slate saffron]

I prefer to believe that the krill were some seperate species that overtime due to the pollution of the water evolved to hunt light and emerged to begin hunting on land

[limpid basin]

Thanks!
Glad I didn't have to ping 3, 4, or 5 times this time lmao

[graceful osprey]

what do mantas eat?

[queen jungle]

Yeah they do rise from the toxic lakes of Wasteland...
I'm just glad there aren't any in the first area.

[slate saffron]

Plants along the way!

Probably

Maybe

[queen jungle]

...or.. there are.. but dormant deep in the lakes...

That's.. disturbing to think about.

[graceful osprey]

so maybe mantas ate the natural darkplants and became slightly corrupted

idk

[slate saffron]

Let the krill sleep!

[graceful osprey]

but it wants to eat

[queen jungle]

Not in the first area it doesn't haha

....that one ark krill has me wondering though now.

There's nothing but clouds where it is.

And the only bad lake is by the cave with the WL.

[slate saffron]

WAIT A MINUTE I JUST REMEMBERED SOMETHING

The ancestors bulit rest-stops for the manta along their migration paths so they probably get the bulk of their food from there!

That and plants along the way

[graceful osprey]

there is polluted water and crabs and darkplants nearby

[sly pasture]

it seems like that one krill was the reason that the Ark couldn't set sail again and escape from the sand

[slate saffron]

They probably can't eat dark plants because the dead solider spirit died after eating that stuff

So it's most likely toxic

[queen jungle]

True..

But later the toxic water is healed.

And the dark plants are definitely toxic. See that dark stuff dripping off them?

That's the same dark stuff falling off Krills.

And crabs.

And us.

[slate saffron]

No, not us yet!

[queen jungle]

Only as we die yeah.

But it's interesting. And I have a theory about it too.

[slate saffron]

NOOOOOOOOO-

[old dove]

In Isle. Just after the first cave, go left to the second big sand dune. There is a cave under that one. You need to have reçues at least 3 spirits from forest to pass the spirit door. It was created during the season of light seekers if I don’t get wrong.

[sly pasture]

you know something interesting? after we renovate the Ark, the Spirits move on, as they always do, and then we set shop there, literally. there's also birds living there and such, for me Enchantment was about learning from your past mistakes and leaving your legacy behind.

We are doing it for the Spirits, but the Spirits did it for us

[queen jungle]

Oo.. that's a nice way to think about it.

Especially since once we die, we can't exactly carry our legacy with us.

Other people have to.

[sly pasture]

exactly! the ark had the power of the spells, and now we carry those on