lore-discussion-spoilers

[bitter pasture]

Ohhh

At eden?

[queen locust]

Orbit- that space place

[bitter pasture]

Now I understand

[true grove]

Spirits turn into golden skids to be reborn

[compact olive]

Lmao 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

That’s awesome Viridi

Yesssssss Demonic fetus theory !!!

[bitter pasture]

Yasssss

[true grove]

Oz- i-
Never going back to orbit 😳

[lament crater]

Same I'll never see it the same way ever again

[compact olive]

Slurp McGurp

[true grove]

Yes ( ꈍᴗꈍ)

My sky kid's childhood is ruined

[compact olive]

It’s okay. It’s a natural part of being borned

[queen locust]

i spoiled the ending of the game for it but the game's almost 30 years old so

[true grove]

Also i went to see the giant king/prince's mask

[compact olive]

I think I know if this game from like YouTube videos. It has a skull 💀 kid with a hoodie?

[queen locust]

Oh no- striped kid with beady black eyes and a hat

And a baseball bat

[compact olive]

Okay now I think I know of it

[queen locust]

You see him in Smash Bros his name is Ness

[compact olive]

So do you think the prince was the bad baby we have to go back to Eden to stop ?

Oh...mah-Gawd!!!

The orb of light

That all the light creatures and skids are headed towards

An ovarian egg

Fertilized

And then we are “reborned”

(O_O)

Eden is a mountain that’s shooting up children from its... I’m gonna stop.

So......

How’s them krill doing?

Anyone got a good theory for me ?

I noticed the constellation for orbit is also on the Eden door

[lament crater]

Hmm the two other dots are interesting

[pale geyser]

"How do you like your eggs? Scrambled? Fried?"
"Fertilized."
"I- what?"

[compact olive]

Yeah I’m thinking one of the dots is isle elder

Because of his broken face maybe he’s not part of the constellation like he’s not part of the Eden gate

And the center dot could either be Megabird (as this symbol represents orbit) or maybe the king/prince since it looks like his head in other murals

[queen locust]

I can kinda see the light as a whole being Megabird because of the 'with the stars united our light is infinite bit'

[compact olive]

The dot to the lowest part of the orbit constellation has to be Sky kingdom(planet system)

[queen locust]

but then again that leaves a slot open to a missing someone

substituting the middle one for Eden and one of the stray ones for Isle

What even is the last one-

[boreal nebula]

In an old inspiration I had the circle and the vertical line represents the Daleth

it reminds me of his staff

[compact olive]

. Vault
Forest Valley
Prairie ??? Wasteland

(Isle)            Sky          ???

. Vault
Forest Valley
Prairie Eden Wasteland

(Isle)            Sky          ???

[boreal nebula]

I had a sketch about that...! but need to search for it, hold on

But at that time I didn't notice the faces had an order, as you said.

[compact olive]

. Vault
Forest Valley
Prairie Eden Wasteland

(Isle)            Sky          Traveling Spirit

[boreal nebula]

And my idea of the the two unconnected dots could be other skykids

If I could draw it as I can picture it in my mind the two dots could be a shiny boy and an indifferent kid (shine and dark, black and white, in Yin Yang kind of balance balance)

[restive peak]

Uhm I was just at the gate. They changed the faces order

Valley twins is now on the lowest right side

You need a new pic @compact olive

[boreal nebula]

oh really? Just to mess up the order

[restive peak]

Don’t know why I just noticed it

[boreal nebula]

so if the realm had a number, now the Elders faces are 2 3 6 5 4

Nevermind : 2 3 6 4 5

[restive peak]

Actually looking close oz pic is Correct

He just put names wrong. Right side down is triangular shape of the twins

[compact olive]

(Was in the middle of redrawing the image and puts pen 🖊 down and slowly turns to Gwennus)

[restive peak]

You can finish the redraw

My notion is correct

[boreal nebula]

Hold on, so in which order are they ?

[restive peak]

Also did you ever turn around in eden and looked on top of the vault?

Prairie, forest, vault, waste valley

But faces of prairie and wateeland are very very similair how you know which is which?

[queen locust]

figured that'd come up sooner or later

[restive peak]

This on top of vault. Strange symbol. Never seen it before. You guys?

[queen locust]

Once or twice over the course of this chat ye

[restive peak]

No in mean other. Places in the game

[queen locust]

You can actually spot the symbol elsewhere- or at least ones resembling it

Valley mostly

Right there on top of the banners

[restive peak]

Hmm

[boreal nebula]

I think that symbol is anywhere

even in simple rudimental/tribal way

for once you can see at the "altar" of the snowy bird (statue?)

[amber thicket]

What if the rain in the Hidden Forest was evaporate poison from the Golden Wasteland that were combined with regular clouds?

[compact olive]

The . Shape tells you. One is more rounded than the other

[boreal nebula]

like these old screens of mine (don't consider the last one)

[restive peak]

Could it be the symbolthey use for the land of sky?

[queen locust]

one is soft chonk and one is war cry chonk

[boreal nebula]

even here. This one is giving me even the idea that symbol is a sign of unity of the whole kingdom of Sky

[compact olive]

@restive peak Could be. The diamond in the center does strike me as harkening back to dark stone and dark stone is found in sky and the three Hollow diamonds is all over rainforest and prairie

[boreal nebula]

that's my idea too

[queen locust]

the symbol of unity thing keeps reminding me of the Belonging crest but that was debunked already iirc? Idk

[restive peak]

It would make sense to put the symbol of the sky on top of vault

[queen locust]

I know Belonging is more of family than a whole community and that's probably why the Kingdom's version is much more grandiose

[boreal nebula]

how was it debunked? Lore is free for interpretations

[queen locust]

No clue but every time this comes up it normally gets shut down by someone else saying smthn along those lines

To this day I'm still waiting on people to send where they saw that from

[compact olive]

The canon zealots

[queen locust]

So I'm hanging onto my Belonging comparison-

[compact olive]

I do see a connection

What was belonging’s story?

[queen locust]

Basically a family of spirits tryna get together for grandma's potluck

[boreal nebula]

Indeed, many sees the "king emblem" in most symbols, but I think even a tiny different can change the meaning of even an ideogram

[queen locust]

It's interesting in that we see an actual family of spirits

But that's about it

[compact olive]

I’m not sure I follow. Is there a pic of this season?

[restive peak]

I would say unity nd kingdom are very very related

[queen locust]

hold on lemme google it lmao

[boreal nebula]

Maybe I never had the chance to said it,but another reasonwhy I think it's a symbol of unity is from the GW Temple

[restive peak]

So if the three crystal is sky then belonging very well be very closely related

[boreal nebula]

behind Tsadi's tombstone

[restive peak]

Tsadi tombstone?

Whats that?

[restive peak]

Btw @oz finished redrawing jet?

[queen locust]

Basically it's where Confetti Cousin and Pleaful Parent are from

[boreal nebula]

inside the temple, when we meditate to refill Tsadi's spear

[compact olive]

No I have to find a new image with the correct order first

[queen locust]

also Boogie Kid isn't wearing their pants I just noticed

[boreal nebula]

the shape of that altar kind of remind me of the "kingdom/unity" shape

[compact olive]

I missed that season (was on hiatus) so I have to YouTube their cutscenes

[restive peak]

@queen locust why they holding lanterns

[queen locust]

No clue I wasn't here for that season either XD

[graceful osprey]

why does confetti spirit throw confetti?

[queen locust]

It looks like promo art tho not everything in that inage carried over

[boreal nebula]

I interpret it as a hint of the war behind a defensive one, about all the realms uniting to fall back and be saved by Tsadi (sorry civil war Lore)

[restive peak]

No I have to find a new image with the correct order first
@compact olive same image just redraw the names

[compact olive]

She uncaps a popper

[graceful osprey]

but why does she do that?

[queen locust]

man if only it was that easy when my city had a sports meet

And I dunno, it's a fun little emote tho

[restive peak]

What tsadi his tombstone?

[boreal nebula]

the one we lit the candles and meditate

[queen locust]

oh my god it's 11 pm gotta sneep

Nighty night lore chat

[restive peak]

And I dunno, it's a fun little emote tho
@queen locust im convinced thats the way with emotes and cosmetics. They rarely relate to the story they are for the fun part

Oh you mean the temple

Never thought of the. As tombstones

Interesting

Cant they be what was left over from the elders when there light died

Like we also become a statue

Why not the elders

[boreal nebula]

Why not? They vertical stone slate, from those we can see the spirits

[restive peak]

It could have been made by the spirits in honor of the elders. Their mural work is not very advanced. Dont think stoncutting would eb either. But then again. Tombs does sound better and more fitting

[boreal nebula]

Can't find a better pic a the moment

[restive peak]

@boreal nebula i understood what you meant

[boreal nebula]

Image it upside down

[restive peak]

@compact olive could it be that because waste and forest Produced the darkstone they were on top because the king foind them more valuable realms?

[boreal nebula]

[restive peak]

Ah yes the symbol again

[boreal nebula]

mmm, Yeah. You reminded me it could be Orbit too

[restive peak]

That sounds very plausible

Isnt that same shape on the ground in orbit?

[hushed steeple]

Yes it is

[hushed steeple]

HEY YOUR FRIEND IS IN THE GROUND HELP THEM

[boreal nebula]

LOL, that was me, actually

[restive peak]

Isle star died

He was an old star

No longer shine in sky

[boreal nebula]

[hushed steeple]

I think isle is a deserted land

I think that's where the elders started civilization and then continued forward into the clouds building cities

And i have a theory called the "eden x black clover" theory

In the black clover anime the kingdom's peasants live on the outskirts

Only rich people get to live on the middle

Imagine that but on sky

The poorest people live on isle

Then we work our way up to the rich

[boreal nebula]

Interesting idea, but as have you considered the area in Prairie called village ?(even which is not even close to the close to be a Village as in SoD)

I never picture that area (with the bells to summon mantas) as one , tho, in my eyes those 3 doors don't resemble a house

[restive peak]

How you know Its called a village?

[boreal nebula]

Mmm, I think it was mentioned here or in the sky wiki

I think Isle as just the land of no-body, the outskirt outside of the borders of the Skyngdom

[lethal stump]

that’s also how kingdoms functioned irl
often the kingdom centre was largely populated by guild workers (crafts people), merchants, etc., and other such jobs, whereas the edges of the kingdom were where many of the peasants lived, since it was their job to work on the farms and such. you can’t exactly work on a farm in the middle of the city

[hushed steeple]

You are correct

[lethal stump]

and then that changed with a shift from feudalism to capitalism - poorer folks lived closer in the cities because it was easier to get to and from work, whereas rich folks could afford to live further outside the cities and either work remotely or drive into work

[boreal nebula]

Can't remember if I ever share this here:

Is the king staring at me?
Or
Simply a game mechanical error?

[lethal stump]

that’s likely your game being weird

[pearl void]

!lurk

I'm bakkkkk

I think I'm forgotten by now

[lethal stump]

ive seen you in old screenshots and messages

i know who you are ^^

[pearl void]

Contributed quite a bit to the lore back in season of the Ark (is that the name again?)

And been missing since then

[lethal stump]

season of enchantment

[graceful osprey]

i see a person sitting in the floor...

[pearl void]

Haven't open the game for season of dream yet tho

[boreal nebula]

About Isle being outside of the Skyngdom

I started to think about this not just a simplification

At first I thought it could have been a creative choice to represent the 6 Realms with just this 4 gates and the 4 ancestors figure

But since I started considering Isle as just a land of no-body, outside of the border, I even realized Vault is not a "realm" per se

[true grove]

The middle figure is the king

[boreal nebula]

It's mostly just a building

[true grove]

Building? eden?

[boreal nebula]

So not Eden, just the Vault of Knowlege

[true grove]

It seems like the king tho

[boreal nebula]

It's not as far & while as the other four Realms (Prairie, Forrest, Valley & Wasteland)

And after all the tower of Vault of Knowledge is inside of GW

[lethal stump]

i disagree, we see in the fire trial mural that the Vault is inside the eden mountain, not in GW

[pearl void]

Nah if you remember the vault is beyond the gate of the GW temple, if i remember correctly

[boreal nebula]

So with our eyes of skids reliving and discovering the lands, those seem 6, but maybe back in the ancestors times, they were 4 Realms, represented by the 4 gates in the Isle Temple

[lethal stump]

4 gates in the temple ?

[bitter shale]

Hmmm the king have a kid-shaped hole on their head

[true grove]

Lol i think it's a size comparison between king and prince

[boreal nebula]

So the two older Elders (Daleth and Lamed) maybe are just too tired to govern a Realms and took more humble roles (ferryman and librarian)

[bitter shale]

Yep

Maybe

[lethal stump]

that's been mentioned a couple times - its the origin for the "mech suit" theory

[boreal nebula]

mm, ok, but my point is that Vault maybe is not wide enough to be considered a kingdom back in the days

[lethal stump]

...librarian is an EXTREMELY stressful job, its not something you do to retire

i've been a hobbyist librarian - not even a full time worker - and it was

[boreal nebula]

Well, headmistress of the librarians/scholars

And now that I think about it, the room of the Levitation Scholars spirit, with the giant table with 6 seats

It requires 4 people to open it, maybe because the younger Elders would open it to respect the older Elders

As a sign of respect

[lethal stump]

perhaps
although according to the canon doc, hallowed be its name, arent the elders functionally ageless

[boreal nebula]

.yeah... damn..😅

But still, Daleth and Lamed looks like the wisest Elders

[orchid jolt]

I just noticed some things that look like the dark plants

[boreal nebula]

where?

[orchid jolt]

but cant be burnt

[boreal nebula]

OOh, inside the Prarie caves?

[orchid jolt]

yes

[boreal nebula]

yes

[orchid jolt]

are these like the plants non corrupt varient

cause they even have the rings on their ball thingy

[boreal nebula]

Those game me the idea about "what does dark plants need to feed and grow?"

[orchid jolt]

also, i have some pictures of the statues outside of the last section of eden

[boreal nebula]

Because those are dead and the jars are empty, my answer is energy from light creatures

[orchid jolt]

i dont think they are dead, if they were theyb would be turned into flames

[boreal nebula]

Butterflies is the most easiest to capture, as we can see in GW some medium-sized dark plants bulbs release butterflies when burned

[orchid jolt]

u mean the red caps?

the "cousins" of the statues in the final part of eden are sometimes destroyed when getting near them

not all of them though

just thought I'd put this here before I forgot

[boreal nebula]

And we can see many placed from sealed jars butterflies can be saved too, but in those tiny unburnable dark plants the jars maybe were oopened to free the butterflies in order to saving them (maybe by some kind hearted ancestor)

Thus those tiny plants died without nutrient, and turned into dry plants, without any energy inside them we cannot burn/free that energy. OR at least that's how I see it

[orchid jolt]

but the rings are still animated showing leftover energy

[restive peak]

The devs hinted ones that darkness was always present

[orchid jolt]

what if they are the light counterparts, similar to how crabs have an uncorrupted varrient

what do you mean gwen?

[restive peak]

In the canon document i read that devs ones mentioned thate e should not think that there was just light in sky and no darkness

That the dark ess only came because of the use of light by the spirits

[orchid jolt]

Im having a hard time understanding you, are u saying that the devs said that darkness and light must both exist?

[boreal nebula]

Good eye! If I remember it was already noticed, and that's why a common theory is that those are old versions of the first skykids, not strong enough to save Eden, while the ones we are able to save are better versions, but only our sky kids is the ultimate sky kid 2.0, who finally succeed in the mission given us by the narrator of the first Intro ("wake up, child, bring the light " or something iirc)

[orchid jolt]

I wanted to save the blue crystal kids 😦

: (

I have to use a space for it to be an emoticon apparently...

[restive peak]

@boreal nebula allthpugh why can we save the 1.2 version of the skykids in eden

And not the 1.0

[boreal nebula]

On the spot I can only think about their soul, too much drained (so maybe that's why the are dark crystal with blue/cold/dead color)

while our 2.0 somehow have a better soul (?)

[restive peak]

Pur soul gets also split. But we find it again somehow and then ascend

[boreal nebula]

behind *being

[restive cosmos]

But how?

[restive cosmos]

It seems to be representing home space

[boreal nebula]

All beside the last pic, they all look like the same symbol,an evolution of the , thus a symbol of unity/the Sky kingdom

[shadow star]

These pined chat with the sky latter(day bells) gone?
Is anyone still have link of them?

[boreal nebula]

what do you mean with "daily bells"?

[restive cosmos]

I think they mean that without light,there is no darkness
Just like yin and yang

[shadow star]

Daylight bells latter, iirc theres someone post about it

I saw it like 3month or more ago so maybe it got deleted

[pallid pumice]

It’s 12.02 am I- also whats topic rn-

[restive cosmos]

Hmm...if eden and wasteland is the same and vault isn't considered a realm,that is true

[shadow star]

Its 2am here and i want it for my curiosity

[boreal nebula]

sorry, no idea about these "bells", I didn't visit much Lore back then, but I would be interested in those

@restive cosmos ty

[shadow star]

The where village part in daylight p

[pallid pumice]

The bell towers

[shadow star]

Yes

[pallid pumice]

You have to burn the dark plants so the candles can be lit and the bells are activated again

[true grove]

There are more lamps in that zone probably 3 this one was on left, i wonder what they will do when lit

[shadow star]

Thats called "stupa" (means tomb in Indo iirc)

Its from gnonim so its kinda half official atleast i guees?

[pallid pumice]

Yep

Doesent it mean stone statue-

[shadow star]

In indo the environment is not good to make tomb with soil so they make it with stones

And if they are use cremate way to body, they can make more than 1 tombs with one thing/persons bone just separate by the part where th e bone is

So as you can see, the daylight p have a drowing on it 3 part of mantas are activate by each stupa

So it was just explanations

These anyone really have these link about bells latter?

I saw that these bells letter have kinda similar looks korean and wanna do some serching for it

[willow shoal]

I’m coming

[shadow star]

No one knows?

[boreal nebula]

sorry, I was AFK

so, you mean someone has transcribed those glyphs/letters from those bells?

[lethal stump]

All Glyphs In Sky
#lore-discussion-spoilers message

[boreal nebula]

@shadow star I have these

[pale geyser]

this should be pinned-

[lethal stump]

it used to be, albeit in a document

[pale geyser]

is it?

[pale geyser]

[lethal stump]

as far as i can tell, the mods have entirely unpinned fan content from the channel

[boreal nebula]

Wow, thanks
Ops, no idea about that link I posted by mistake:sweat_smile:

[pale geyser]

I see- kinda disrespectful to the fanbase, but at the same time, an argument can be made that the fan content was disrespectful to the game

[shadow star]

So good doc links ar all gone?

[pale geyser]

what even was it?? lmao Im c u r i o u s

[lethal stump]

Canon doc - https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ZWJRGiJSrIXgDvJ4pST61moZbVB_hBExUjOaF-pmOE
Theory Vault - https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/1-SOY_5WrhQ2ftVZEM9VMBsz92-n_53kBzQoHKmY2-24/edit

they still exist, just unpinned

[boreal nebula]

Not sure, I have no idea, didn't recognize the link and I deleted it

To make things weirder I dont have anything similar to that in my clipboard 📋

[pale geyser]

tryna rickroll? I see-

🥖

[lethal stump]

it wasnt a rickroll

i clicked it, just a little duolingo owl gif

[shadow star]

Hmmmm what i was mad with google doc but it similar thingyyyy

[boreal nebula]

Believe what you want, but I am serious, no idea😅

[pale geyser]

lmao I kno, just kidding

[shadow star]

Thx! Lemme found out how to use google doc

[boreal nebula]

My gboard had a mind of its own

[pale geyser]

AI have become master now

hail t e c h n o l o g y

[boreal nebula]

Ooh. So i get how I tapped that by mistake

[shadow star]

3am here, just remember weird thing suddenly, and just can't take it

[pale geyser]

??

go to bed- after u tell us XD

[shadow star]

Lolol

But I wanna khow is they actually looks like korean

Bunch interests are pop up

From nowhere ya khow

[boreal nebula]

About the gliphs, I want to share this idea I had a couple of days ago

[lethal stump]

a few of the symbols appear korean, some of them look like other symbols

its not purely one language

[pale geyser]

some look like english numbers-

[shadow star]

Yeah i khow, just got interested lolol

[boreal nebula]

Even if maybe this idea is a little bit a stretch

[pale geyser]

!tell

[pale geyser]

Whose gwen??

[boreal nebula]

It's in the old comment of mine I replied to provide direct link to it

Too bored to repost it😅

[shadow star]

Some of them is looks like every language

Coollll

[boreal nebula]

gwennus#6646 , I think

[shadow star]

Im korean and yes somthing something korean maybe or something something other league

[pale geyser]

oh, gwennus

[boreal nebula]

So what do you think of this glyphs maybe (remotely) hinting to Office/Company?

[boreal nebula]

Probably just to help (if you succeed) to reach the stormlock goal

[restive peak]

Wait what about me?

Somebody call?

[boreal nebula]

Ops, did I ping you?

Lore got krilled again...

[restive peak]

No ping.
I just saw my name mentioned when i hoped in. I was like

Peeps gone to bed maybe?

Also. Noticed this. Isle his gate looks darker then others? Maybe just glitch. Orrrr....

[compact olive]

Bricky!!! Guess who skater girl could be!!!!

[prime latch]

Hi

I have a question that I think is related to the story of sky! Sorry if it’s a stupid one I don’t know much abt sky lore 😂

:,)*

why does the no spirit say no to a drawing of the isle spirit?

sorry isle elder-

[quiet crystal]

I think it’s because the rejecting voyager doesn’t want the other spirit to dig below the temple

[prime latch]

Ooooh I see thank u!! :))

[true grove]

The king shaped gates are upside-down in wasteland temple. I think it means even king wasn't allowed in vault

[prime latch]

Are all the destroyed buildings in wasteland the kings kingdom?

[hushed steeple]

i was playing journey earlier and wasteland looks a lot like the first sand area in journey 👀 is there any lore connecting the two

[lethal stump]

canonically, they’re separate universes

[hushed steeple]

and non canonically?

[lethal stump]

well, if you’re ignoring canon then i can’t exactly tell you anything concrete
the existence of canon is an existence of a concrete « truth » to some extent, but if you’re ignoring that then there’s nothing to tell you bc it’s just. you having fun with the story

[jovial nacelle]

Hi lore-

Since everyone knows that the prophecy is pass is the kings head,

That possibly means the king was wanting something from the prophecy..

Then again, what was the prophecy?

[hushed steeple]

Something about him probably

[jovial nacelle]

True, there aren’t any signs of the king aside from the pass itself.

So, that either means the prophecy is from the students.

[hushed steeple]

There are some statues here and therr

[jovial nacelle]

Hm, but who are the statues

[queen locust]

Going by the murals I think it looks like they were waiting for someone to master the elements and lead them to prosperity

[jovial nacelle]

oh no, I added a no no word

[queen locust]

also good morning lore chat

[jovial nacelle]

At least we have proof that the students could use magic, but then again. The Light on the trials still remained which meant no students passed possibly.

Also, what were they preparing the students for?

It’s most likely war against the darkness

Or... something else.

[queen locust]

I want to think they were also preparing them for the Trials? Ultimately they failed though

[gilded spoke]

Morning lore people

[queen locust]

Because therr wasn't much mention of darkness in Propechy

[jovial nacelle]

Let’s go back to enchantment, I think some of the spirits in enchantment were the prophets

[queen locust]

How so?

[jovial nacelle]

Or, they were hiding something

[gilded spoke]

Yeah compared to the other seasonal areas

[jovial nacelle]

I’m not sure, I wouldn’t say them as prophets but more like practitioners. However, they most likely were taught by the prophets.

And notice how the shrug grandpa was able to conjure the water spell himself?

But he failed purifying the wasteland water possibly because of the lack of light

[queen locust]

I think that's mostly because they had the resources to conjure up magic on their own- they had separate murals explaining how they were able to do that

[gilded spoke]

Since they came first ( I hope ) they would teach the spirits how to be things idk

[queen locust]

Notice the murals on the Ark- I think they illustrate pretty well how they were able to conjure up those orbs

Taking light orbs from Lightseekers and integrating them with certain elements

[jovial nacelle]

It showed stars, so possibly stars falling down?

[queen locust]

Probably- but I don't see how that's linked to Prophecy

[jovial nacelle]

h m

I feel like the ark was trying to deliver something

Somewhere

[gilded spoke]

Maybe a hidden civilization

[queen locust]

Possibly ye- the orbs look like they were created in order to purify or at least salvage barren lands

[gilded spoke]

Do they came during darkness period

[queen locust]

Alternatively, they could also be in search of places where they can improve their craft

[jovial nacelle]

I’m starting to think the reason why the students were being taught is to learn how to purify the darkness-

But they’d need a stronger light source

And that would be us, or the diamonds.

[hushed steeple]

From what we've seen in game the light orbs alone can do nothing
And they're pretty good at it

[jovial nacelle]

In enchantment the water grandpa wasn’t able to purify the wasteland water himself due to the lack of light

[queen locust]

Personally I kind of doubt it- because we don't know how much time has passed since Enchantment and Prophecy and that in Prophecy again- there wasn't much mention of darkness, and seemed like it focused more on the origin and the eventual prosperity of the Kingdom

[jovial nacelle]

Since we are sort of a living power diamond only stronger / catalyst we managed to enhance his power.

And purify the wasteland water.

I’m starting to think

That we can actually power the sky world.

[queen locust]

One other thing about the spirits is that when they're ascended, they gain this golden hue

[jovial nacelle]

True

[gilded spoke]

But then it was strong enough to counter us

[jovial nacelle]

and tgc

[queen locust]

I've ascended the grandpa, none of the spirits from Prophecy turned a golden hue

[gilded spoke]

They haven’t came back as a TS

[queen locust]

They don't have to for us to see a change

[jovial nacelle]

I think the water prophet did-

[queen locust]

We only have to relieve their spirit memories

[gilded spoke]

No

[jovial nacelle]

Relive*

[hushed steeple]

[queen locust]

Oh no not yet- we have to wait for Dreams to end before we get any Travelling Spirits from Prophecy

[jovial nacelle]

I wonder, why do we only relive only one part of the spirits memory when it can be the rest?

[gilded spoke]

Season of Sanctuary didn’t get to TS yet be patient

[hushed steeple]

Probably its their most important part of their life or something, or a really strong memory for them

[jovial nacelle]

Sanctuary already had some ts

[queen locust]

nope not yet

[gilded spoke]

During beta but not public

[jovial nacelle]

o

Hm... what happened to the bodies of the rest of the civilisation of sky?...

[queen locust]

RNG I pray onto you this day that you give me the Jelly Whisperer-

[jovial nacelle]

And why didn’t they become spirits to

[queen locust]

A few possibilities

One- they might have already been saved by a previous generation of skids

[jovial nacelle]

I’m starting to think that us sky kids brought the storm and caused the destruction of Eden and the entire sky

[queen locust]

Two, perhaps they were in Eden when the explosion happened so maybe they'd been blown away so hard that there was nothing left for us to relive- not even a spirit

also why we literally predate the Eden diamond-

[jovial nacelle]

Highly unlikely-

[queen locust]

Why do you say that?

[gilded spoke]

Yeah why

[jovial nacelle]

The spirits would have been already dead when we arrived.

[gilded spoke]

We live in a deadly cycle

[gilded spoke]

Yeah ofc

[queen locust]

that's. of course. they were also already dead when WE arrive.

[gilded spoke]

They were already dead when the others arrived

[queen locust]

spirits need to be dead for them to be relived-

[jovial nacelle]

ndbdhsjsjsjs my brain is dead-;

[queen locust]

why wouldn't they be dead when the previous generation was sent down

[jovial nacelle]

I have a theory why they were only a few spirits.

[gilded spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/shaq-what-no-sneaky-gif-20028551

[boreal nebula]

I think just game mechanics, that stone gate was standing since first login (notice also other gates have darker stones at the bases cause those were there at first)

[jovial nacelle]

The spirits we see in sky were sacrificed to be in their constellation before the storm. It’s possible that vault predicted this and chose only a few to guide sky kids for them to communicate

And the seasonal

Were also sacrificed

Or were already dead at that point but somehow got into their own constellation

[queen locust]

if I may- I think constellations speak more of bonds than sacrifice

[jovial nacelle]

I always wonder, why diamonds when it can be triangles

[gilded spoke]

Maybe they are more powerful than the others so they had their own constellation

[jovial nacelle]

Do the elders have a diamond obsession

[gilded spoke]

Yes

[jovial nacelle]

But how is some skater kid powerful

[queen locust]

Depends on your definition of diamond obsession and which Elders you think were involved

[gilded spoke]

I still honestly believe she is a prototype for a sky kid

[queen locust]

And the bonds carry over to the seasonal spirits especially- they might have their own constellation just from how closely associated with each other they are

or were

Belonging for example

They are an entire family of spirits

[jovial nacelle]

I noticed in the secret room of vault ( the other room ) not the office. Had a lot of cracks, it’s possibly there was a break in of darkness due to the crabs. Or an abandoned part of the vault

It’s possible that room was invaded back then by darkness.

[gilded spoke]

[jovial nacelle]

But were caged by the magic of the vault.

[hushed steeple]

Vault season when?

[queen locust]

we're switching topics so quickly I'm-

[jovial nacelle]

This is the magic of the sky discord server, quickly changing topics and more chaos ensuing

[queen locust]

The other topics didn't seem done? but alrighty

[jovial nacelle]

Hm, would vault have been the strongest source of magic?

[gilded spoke]

Yes with all of this diamond technology yes

[jovial nacelle]

I feel like, there was more to vault but we haven’t realised it.

an underground city

I can imagine that vault used to be a floating island, a bug floating island. The tower being the tip of a much larger tower

And a very very big power diamond, a barrier to protect themselves from krills, possibly a cloak

[boreal nebula]

I once though this gold emblem was somehow a manta

But after months I think it recalls MegaBird (both the bottom arch and the gold one)

[jovial nacelle]

It looks more of an ox-

[gilded spoke]

Can’t tell what that is

[jovial nacelle]

I’ll visit sky quickly-

[queen locust]

I think that thing'd be whatever Prairie Elder was in concepts- cuz you know how a fox-like mask was on the top of the door to Forest Elder's temple

[boreal nebula]

The bottom one is closer to some concept art about Mega Bird (the decoration on the top of the temple door) but the gold one could be harder to prove it

Mmm, cant remember any old concept of Prairie Elder, do you have any pic?

[jovial nacelle]

If you think about it, during the vault of knowledge level we would have been on the ground since we were most likely hallucinating

Which means.

There are still traces of magic within the vault

That possibly still held the towers shape

Also, these diamonds, it’s most likely they no longer work since they were long gone. But the diamonds we light are illusions

[queen locust]

I'd call it more of a projection than actual magic kind of- because of that diamond on the elevator being powered by those lanterns and everything

[jovial nacelle]

Or an illusion

[queen locust]

Technically the same thing- just with different processes

[jovial nacelle]

True-

[boreal nebula]

I think Elders still have an aura around their temples, for example Tsadi aura maybe repelled the krills and kept the temple gate standing(IMHO)

[jovial nacelle]

This raises an interesting question, just how much magic was stored within the vault before the destruction?

[queen locust]

From the looks of it and the parts of Vault that we never truly got to see, it's probably safe to assume that Vault was like the Vatican Archives

They have everything in there

[jovial nacelle]

Darkness and crabs seeped in, the hidden forest would have been an area that used to be infested by Darkness. However there wasn’t enough darkness for krills.

I feel like we only float on the vault because they either grinded butterflies

[queen locust]

I mean- it IS powered by power diamonds

they had to do a phenomenal amount of grinding

[jovial nacelle]

Just how much butterflies do they need to grind

[queen locust]

likely not with just butterflies

Presumably those factories worked on most things that were made of light

[jovial nacelle]

”Alright, here is your 999,999,999,999 stocks of butterflies and that will cost you. Almost everything you have.”

[boreal nebula]

Lower levels of Vault is drained of power, or at least is far from the upper floor where Lamed power is stronger

[queen locust]

Potentially those factories could have used raw materials like a metric ton of mantas

[jovial nacelle]

The factories were most likely in wasteland due to the pipes, I think the sludge is darkness

[queen locust]

Not just most likely- they seem to be concentrated in Wasteland

We only ever see one in Forest

And we see several factories in the distance

[jovial nacelle]

I can imagine forest bashing the mantas into manta light juice

[boreal nebula]

I don't understand why many think of the temple as factories (grind houses)

I know the concept art but I even notice how part of those concept are different now, for example there's no place where we see those gold "battery" pop out to still interpret them as factories

So maybe they scratched out that part in development

[queen locust]

The place where the shrine comes out of isn't really the most conventional place in the world

And we see a machine just like it situated in Wasteland

If it was purely for theatrics, there wouldn't be much sense to replicate it

Either the Forest temple was repurposed into a factory or vice versa

[boreal nebula]

But in the concept there are also some kind of paths where batteries roll out which are completely missing in GW and HF now

[queen locust]

Fair point, but at the same time there isn't much evidence to say that it wasn't some kind of factory- even if it doesn't resemble the concepts all that much anymore

Some mechanisms are still present- namely that middle piece

Who knows, maybe there was manual labor involved, still

[haughty talon]

It is strange the last area before the big door to GW temple has no bones whatsoever...

[queen locust]

so I kinda discussed this extensively with other chats, and this theory's a bit far-fetched so I'll just call it a headcanon

But what if the Whisperers were the other 6 Ceremonial Worshippers that we don't see

Because it's never truly explained what exactly it was that the worshippers were... worshipping

Megabird is a likely candidate of course, but in the case that Megabird isn't a widespread, well-known entity, what else could they have been worshipping

MAYBE the King, but since they're comprised of Whisperers in this headcanon I'm inclined to think they were worshipping the harmony between Ancestor and creature

Excluding the default call and butterflies... maybe, so far we've had calls corresponding to every common creature we see in Sky- Bird, Whale, Manta, Jellyfish, Crab, and Memory

memory is a bit weird though

And so is Crab Call lady, who I can kind of see being part of this circle before she joined the Lightseekers? Maybe?

anyway just gotta throw that one out there- food for thought-

[hushed steeple]

I like that to them just being identity-less randos.

[queen locust]

They're accessed through an 8 player elevator and have a space to call their own with tombstones decked out in gold and a metric ton of candles

If that's not suspicious idk what is

Who are they- what do they worship- and why in god's name don't they have corpses to burn-

[hushed steeple]

What if....they worshipped oreo?

Bruh

Nah

It's possible tho

Oreo is something to worship upon all countries

[queen locust]

wkfkwkkfekdkke

I'd worship this dog to the ends of the earth too but idk if they would

[teal orbit]

hmmmm... butterflies prolly had better uses, like transportation and stuff... if i had to guess, only birds and mantas were used... but your theory is valid as well

[teal orbit]

iiiinteresting.... as far as i can tell, there are no dev quotes that oppose it, and tbh, i dig this theory

[teal orbit]

any one of the holes and grates could open and pop out the diamonds...

aaaand lore chat is still dead

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[pale geyser]

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[true grove]

Side-effects my include loneliness, lack of light, accidental destruction of a whole realm and death
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[bitter shale]

Lmao these madlads

[hushed steeple]

I want the ability to not feel guilty after i receive a random heart from a random friend without giving one back

[pallid pumice]

Whats the topic

[pseudo heart]

It's best to think of those random hearts as gifts unless they explicitly say otherwise. Also, wrong channel, try #general-sky-discussion or #cozy-sky-discussion ?

No one alive? Okay

Since skykids fell around the time that the ancestors were still alive, they must've watched the ancestors slowly dwindle and die

[teal orbit]

hmmmm but the canon doc says we are a new generation, again, not forcing you to stick to the canon side of things, but the devs did say that in the livestreams... but that doesnt mean i disagree with ali... after all, the sky shop poems say that we have RETURNED to the world, rather than created outta scratch... the skyshop poems also say that we know the elders and the rhythm troupe... which means that whoever, or whatever we used to be before we were returned to the world must have been a very influential being... so basically im thinking that the skids were reincarnated and dropped into the world a long time after the fall of the kingdom, rather than straight out falling during the kingdom...

get it?

but then again its just a theory

u can think what you want

[pseudo heart]

Ushering Stargazer's memories suggest that the skykids, at least the first one fell when they were still alive

That was what I meant

[pale geyser]

You can't have that ability. It's illegal.

[teal orbit]

i see.....
but given that the skids' homeland is the homespace, i doubt it was a skid... im thinking prince....

[boreal nebula]

Maybe, but we dont see the circular "pool"/path to collect the diamonds pop out in the side things next to the central altar

[teal orbit]

i need pics to understand this...
im srry im sneepy rn

[boreal nebula]

there is not that part to collect diamonds, the number 4) in the diagram.
Also the pop out holes is not diamond-shaped anymore, and there aren't as many holes (it seems there were 5 in concept)

Plus there is the part about the giant press (showed in the "top view") which is gone.

SIDENOTE, looking closer at the background picture it looks like there used to be lots of darkplants inside the Teth Temple, so cool

[teal orbit]

hmmmm.... i see

but the giant press at the top is still there

why dont u go watch the elder cutscene (issok if u skip it)

u just have to trigger it

[icy spruce]

O

[boreal nebula]

But now it's just spinning, it maybe is just a dynamo

Or a discoball now

[teal orbit]

as for the pop out holes... they could be anywhere rlly.... hell, they could even take the diamonds out manually... i mean its a concept u cant expect everything to be the exact same...

[teal orbit]

remember how food mixers work?

spin spin spin

spin

[true grove]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-weird-skeptical-worried-disgusted-gif-4990489

[boreal nebula]

It can be, but I'd rather consider those buildings as temples ,even if the factories theory is interesting

[true grove]

What happening

[boreal nebula]

Maybe because I still wonder what those contraption could be beside giant diamond stamps

Anyway after rewatching some screenshots I made with TS I came up with this

2 things we didn't know about Confetto Cousin:

1. After growing up into a goth, she still Iikes flowers
2. She is the best at posing like belly scratching Spirit

I know many call her Kiki, but after this I am considering her name could be even Abby

[teal orbit]

was.... that look aimed at me or the diamond press theory....

[true grove]

It's aimed at the way this chat dies for hours

[teal orbit]

oh ok

[true grove]

GOTH kdksosmeoslwla

And it died again

[boreal nebula]

For Kiki lovers
Bow hair and umbrella + confetti trick
You will look like you're flyjng on your broom for a split second

minus the fact I was wearing my pilgrim hat

[shadow star]

These anyone have link for this?
I was find this google doc in pin
But it gone now i guess
If anyone still has it please give me
https://twitter.com/dawn_stroll/status/1345032747308314626?s=09

[true grove]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nSKhrpnzW95SOx4-x4fB924IbS9Swiah011-f_pqHgw/edit?usp=drivesdk

[shadow star]

Thank god you have it

Tysm!

[boreal nebula]

oh, so that's the doc you mentioned, nice

[shadow star]

Yeahhhhhhh

Finally found it

[livid valley]

Epic

[boreal nebula]

#screenshots-and-videos message

Does anybody in Lore have a better pic of this runes?

Original picture by Lokhaj🪕#1559

[hushed steeple]

Hello new Lore Moff!
Read this document to get started! Once you’ve read this, check out pins for information.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto

Credits to Brick for making these documents :stickerHeart:

I have the og one

!krill

[amber thicket]

Hey, I flew above the Eden Gate and I turned around to see this weird sword looking thing (first image)

[true talon]

kinda like the belonging emblem

[amber thicket]

That's what I thought @true talon

[restive peak]

Funny we had the same discussion yesterday

This is a closeup

Ypu can see the same emblem in many places in sky

Easiest is above the flagpoles in valley

[amber thicket]

Hmmmm I thought it looked familiar

[restive peak]

Our guess yesterday was it might bethe sumbol of sky as a country. Or unity

That would explain why belonging looks similar

[amber thicket]

Ohhhh I see!

Thanks for that!

[restive peak]

If you have different thought please share

[amber thicket]

I have a theory but I apologizes for my bad terminology

Since we know that Sky had a King, wouldn't he had a staff or a hammer like the other Elders? The sword looking statue could have been how the King knights their successors (in this case, the Elders)

[restive peak]

Like a scepter?

[amber thicket]

Yeah

Like the Pope's staff

[lethal stump]

the devs have referenced it possibly being the king’s symbol

[amber thicket]

Ohhhh like a seal?!

[lethal stump]

kind of, yeah

[restive peak]

I thought the king symbol was the crossy thing we see on all the stateus in waste

[lethal stump]

well there’s a couple king symbols:

• four squares making a diamond
• 8 pointed star
• 4 pointed star
  it just depends on the context

[restive peak]

Thats a lotof reference to the king

[lethal stump]

yeah
he’s all over the place, even if we don’t see him

[restive peak]

He must have been very narsistic

[pale geyser]

formoreinformationpleasevisit www.kingpropaganda.com orcallyourlocalhelpline

[pseudo heart]

looks at GW

[lethal stump]

but yes, like for example lots of the motifs on the valley buildings are meant to represent him, according to ash
that’s where i got the hypothesis that the 4 squares symbol was his

[amber thicket]

Hmmmm that's interesting

[restive peak]

In my opinion writing all symbols to the king is a bit overdoing it. But its your theorie. Also yesterday somebody told me the symbol was also in older murals. So if it was a king seal thats a bit strange

[lethal stump]

older murals, as in pre-launch ?

[restive peak]

If it is symbol people used for the sky kingdom. Then it is offcourse likely the king wpuld use it to make clear it is his

[amber thicket]

I think that this symbol may represent Sky as a country.

[lethal stump]

OH
i just got an idea

specifically about that symbol

[pale geyser]

what is your idea

?

[lethal stump]

it’s 4 diamonds coming together to make one larger diamond
if we look at the forest temple door, it’s the exact same imagery depicting how power diamonds are made — two parts light and two parts darkness
perhaps the symbol represents power diamonds, industry, or invention

[pale geyser]

that would make sense

[restive peak]

Why isit on vault?

[lethal stump]

well, the devs have made note of forest and vault being connected — specifically their elders
considering vault is basically a library, it could be an homage to intelligence and invention

[hushed steeple]

Both forest and vault are blue

[amber thicket]

That's a really good theory!

[restive peak]

Dont wanna irck your theorie but that symbol i cant find the 4th diamond. Is see three left right up. Where do you see the fourth?

[lethal stump]

on the forest door ?

[restive peak]

No on thta symbol

On the forest door its very clear to see

Up, down left right

[lethal stump]

so you mean, on the vault top ?

[restive peak]

Yes

This one is whatnypu meant right

[lethal stump]

yeah
although i was also referring to the general ocncept of 4 diamonds making a big diamond as a whole as well

[restive peak]

Yeh but there i dont see the connection cause it is just three and one biggie

[lethal stump]

in that case i'd call it a king symbol

[restive peak]

Ok new subject. Anyone?

[lethal stump]

what's with the emote reactions ?

[icy spruce]

No idea

[hushed steeple]

Ok here's a subject

You've never heard before

It has to do with something that never gets mentioned here

Like ever

[amber thicket]

Ohhhh please share!

[hushed steeple]

The ||k i n g||

[pale geyser]

V e r y n i c e

[amber thicket]

I can't believe I fell for that

[restive peak]

We all did

[hushed steeple]

You've been backstabbed, the other thing and quite possibly bamboozled

Like

Is the king made out of other sky children?? Do they just use piggy amd then put on king's robes??

I need those answers.

[lethal stump]

imo the king is a singular skykid

[hushed steeple]

Yes

Today thw reactions are quite wild

Okay but seriously here's something that actually never gets mentioned here or spoken of

[pale geyser]

[hushed steeple]

||Isle elder, isle elder broken mask, isle elder war, isle elder etc||

[restive peak]

Nobody trust you now peter

[pale geyser]

Why the elder mantas face is so ugly?

[restive peak]

Ok i have a good one.

The symbol of the wings on the eden blokkade and on the ground at home

It looks like a constellation

So, does that mean that the CoL we collect and save are stars, but the came from a different constelation then the others in the game?

[hushed steeple]

Wot

[graceful osprey]

stone protects their face

[lethal stump]

according to the canon doc, hallowed be its name, CoL are not stars, rather they are imprints of the child of light

[graceful osprey]

like a whurtle

[restive peak]

I mean shiny bois

[graceful osprey]

shiny bois are imprints of the children of light

[lethal stump]

yes, shiny bois, WL, all of those, same thing, they arent stars

child/ren of light, yes
its unclear if theyre imprints of one child or several

[restive peak]

They are imprints of the statues in eden

[amber thicket]

I have a topic that I don't think has been touched

[restive peak]

You reconnect them and they can ascend

[dense yew]

Hey since some of the spirits have capes, are they able to fly with them?

[graceful osprey]

decoration

i think

[lethal stump]

its unlikely spirits could fly
they dont have wedge markings and they relied on other flying creatures and technology to fly

[graceful osprey]

it could be a shield from darkness haha

[amber thicket]

It could just be clothing lol

[dense yew]

So they just have em on for us? I get excited whenever a spirit comes around and has a cape lol

[graceful osprey]

or it could be for running better because wierd aerodynamics

[restive peak]

Its cold ij valley

[amber thicket]

Okay, I've seen these stones and I don't know what they are? I think they're clocks or something?

[lethal stump]

imo i think it represents which ancestors came from orbit and which didn't
the devs have made note that the ancestors also came from orbit and fell alongside the elders, but theres also in-game hints that there were ancestors on the ground before the elders fell
imo caped ancestors are descended from the orbit ancestors, and non-caped have always been on the land

[graceful osprey]

the prairie one is for no longer existiong boat

the forest one is for a rainbow at 5 oclock PST

[restive peak]

Was there a boat at 12 o clock there?

[wind bone]

Yeah it was a large boat with 4 benches

[restive peak]

I know there is growing mushrooms at a certain time in prairie village

[wind bone]

I feel like it was always there, not just at 12

Maybe that’s why they removed it

Bc it didn’t work properly lol

[restive peak]

So they are hints to tell plyers something interesting happens there

[wind bone]

Yeah

[restive peak]

Cool

[amber thicket]

That's really cute

[pseudo heart]

The fairy ring doesn't have a clock hh

[wind bone]

There was one near the forest temple too, back then to get the manta voice you had to free 3 mantas

But the third manta only showed up at specific times

[pseudo heart]

:OO

[wind bone]

I remember being a moth and going what the heck this guide says I get manta voice here but there’s no manta

I saw the clock but I didn’t know it was in pacific time

[restive peak]

The fairy ring doesn't have a clock hh
@pseudo heart i know but it also a timed thingy

[pseudo heart]

Yeah, every :50-:00

[restive peak]

Oof i feel bad for people in half hpur time zones

Must been awfull to calculate

[amber thicket]

Sacrifices must be made

Next topic?

[pseudo heart]

Aaa lore

[lethal stump]

something just came to mind

[amber thicket]

Please share!

[restive peak]

Well im going to do something. Good luck peeps!

[pseudo heart]

||also the boat in prairie can be accessed by OOB-ing under the leftmost village island near the cave entrance. It's mostly invisible now but when u light up the candles, it'll work||

[restive peak]

Aka making dinner

[amber thicket]

Very interesting... That's like OOB-ing the Secret Place in Vault and underneath the area you can find the krill

[wind bone]

You need 2 ppl to activate the boat, the front of the boat has a power diamond mechanism like the doors

[lethal stump]

although its nothing new
i was mulling over the appearances of the king/eden elder in game and i realized there's a massive discrepancy between the king statues and the eden elder mural in the all-elders cutscene
the eden elder has a defined form and body, whereas the king is nothing but cloak; the eden elder has an uncovered face and a 3-pronged crown, whereas the king's face is covered with a star-shaped mask; etc, etc,
part of me wonders
is this eden elder not the king ? is it perhaps someone else ? the prince, perhaps ?

[pale geyser]

Maybe it's just him in two different points in time, one representing a younger, purer CoL, and another representing the ominous King- who soon became corrupted

[vast haven]

Wasn't there a fan theory at some point of how King probably was Eden?

[pale geyser]

I tried saying your name outloud and my step-sister turned into a frog-

[icy spruce]

I

[wind bone]

Oh yeah I think I’m the one who said that, I looked at that one concept art of all the elders and thought it was weird there was no eden elder/the mountain was in the bg

So I was like what if the eden elder became the mountain somehow

[pale geyser]

or maybe he's UNDER the mountain...

.o

[bitter shale]

Now that is interesting

[flat sphinx]

what if they’re that one bright thing at the top right before you ascend

[bitter shale]

But maybe... Just maybe... What if eden mountain already exist long before eden elder become an elder-

cue to prophecy mural

[woven perch]

theres also that one piece of concept art where the king was at the very top of eden, it looked as if he was part of the mountain himself

its a really interesting way of looking at things 👁️

[bitter shale]

Which one

Wait lemme check

[bitter shale]

Ohhh

Could this too?

[stark marten]

Yeah, that's all part of the same concept art by Tom Zhao

[pale geyser]

corrupt elder manta in background?

early krill?

[stark marten]

Could be, it also looks kind of similar to the whale/fish creature we see in a few places

This concept art was from pretty early on though I think, so some stuff changed kind of a lot between then and the current game

[pale geyser]

obviously- there's no bossfight with king anymore

[wind bone]

I found the art I was talking abt

Like... that has to be the king in the bg right

[stark marten]

Yeah it looks similar to the corrupt version from other concept art, and also similar to the mountain itself

[wind bone]

Also that would make those “skyscrapers” you see when you get to the top of the mountain to be the crown

And it makes more sense when you see the promotional images of the eden crown

[woven perch]

that would make the diamond his eye....

....eye of eden....

[wind bone]

Also that child of light that’s literally right there wearing the crown lol

[woven perch]

my brain is expanding this hurts

[wind bone]

Also it makes sense when u die

You are like in a limbo area....

You see this child of light that’s sad...

Once you become one

The mountain crumbles

Almost as if that child was the core of eden 👁👁

[pale geyser]

That explains the figure floating in King's head in the other concepts-

people thought it was a mech

[restive peak]

This part just made so much sense. Thank you seraph. But i stay with one question. Why do we see many CoL in eden for every statue we have saved. It just doesn’t fit in with all of this.

[pale geyser]

and that's where the theory dies-

[wind bone]

Oh i think those are supposed to be your friends

They used to explicitly be your friends too but since it didn’t hit right they removed it

So now it only says your friends names when you reach the light

[restive peak]

But they look a bit different more white, different cape? And its weird cause you give them Wl you collect so thats also still a qeustion. But i think your theorie is a good starting point cause it fits pretty perfect.

[cobalt crescent]

I should probably read a lot of thing in this channel

Hey, do we have a name for the "pity room" in eden, right after we die and where we hug the shiny boi?

[wheat cypress]

Perhaps we'll just call it the pity room 😂

[cobalt crescent]

Ye, but it's way different than that, so it at least should have a name...

[hushed steeple]

Free hugs area

Only 5€

[trim mural]

has anyone ever compiled a collective story (a bit like a timeline) for sky based on theories?

[hushed steeple]

Well almost all theories kinda contradict each other when it comes to story soooo

[restive peak]

@trim mural hi yoko. In this document there is also a link to the theorie document with somewhat a timeline. Hope this helps!

https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit

[thorny totem]

Usually i just call that room Purgatory. Kinda a place of limbo, so i dunno

[lucid bridge]

Someone once had a theory that the red crystals were utilized on a smaller scale, like automatic power diamonds, before their harmful affects were realized. Standing near these very small specks do not drain your light.

[lucid bridge]

This might be weird but I always thought of that as inside the red power diamond on top of Eden. We got sucked into it (because it takes in light) and then we rise out of it (AKA the beam of light spitting from its peak).

[cobalt crescent]

hum makes sense

[teal orbit]

There are 2! They are more or less the same, but i'll link them to u once i get to my laptop

[teal orbit]

Its usually called the prince room...

[icy spruce]

huh

[cobalt crescent]

that too but I don't agree with that term at all so...

[short owl]

Seraph, I have seen that concept multiple times and never noticed the king standing behind the elders

[icy spruce]

huh

[short owl]

Also I have never heard it called the prince room

[teal orbit]

Haha starting point... we already have a few theories on that if u wanna hear...
Those statues are the fallen (canon)
And the livestreams imply that the fallen are very similar, or maybe even the same entities as the spirits...
The wl belong to the statues in eden, aka the fallen, and the imprints are like vending machines that pop out the lights of whoever is stuck on eden rn... so that the cotl can return the light to the fallen

[teal orbit]

Well... um ppl call it that...

[cobalt crescent]

People call it prince room because they believe the shiny boi that you hug there is the price himself (I don't know much more than that, sorry)
And there's another part of the community that believes that the shiny boi there is actually yourself, your own light, or your determination to keep going after falling right before the red diamond... :pEyes:

[icy spruce]

ye

[queen locust]

I think I've heard it be called the prince room in passing like once or twice but

Heck I don't think we ever had a concrete term for it like- every other instance where we die is called the pity room but not this one

[queen locust]

might have been me but yep- I think this thing might have been like the diamond factories where they extract light from something, but in a more automated sense

Keep feeding this thing and it'll keep going for as long as the light source still has light to be sucked out of it

Kinda makes me think what this plant might have been for when it was active but one thing that I believe for sure is that this building was built to extract light

my god english i only had like one mug of coffee this morning i'm sorry-

[short owl]

I've heard pity star room

[bitter shale]

It is common among capeless lads lol

Altho I never encounter it by myself cause I'm too lazy to do star hunting again

[hushed steeple]

Vault elder fat-

Also i never seen a mod ever theorise in lore chat before

[short owl]

It's not the most common thing, but 🤷

[hushed steeple]

they should be out moderating not wasting time on us smol brains

[short owl]

Kakichi, they were modderating

Part of moderation is maintaining a visible presence

It's even more effective if you're an approachable member of the community

[bitter shale]

This... if the king did indeed fused to the mountain... whan the castle got yeeted its like the king lose his crown... like he is ripped from something that represent his role as the highest leader...

[restive cosmos]

Ok

[restive cosmos]

I thought the shiny boy is megabird

[gilded spoke]

NGL LOOKING AT THE OLD EDEN YOU ARE RISKING YOUR LIFE FOR ING CURRENCY

[bitter shale]

Megabirb is too busy to hug us

[gilded spoke]

[restive cosmos]

Oh

[rapid juniper]

Since our head is empty does that mean our head is made of light

[bitter shale]

Our head might be made of stone

stone head

[pale geyser]

s t o n e r

[willow shoal]

[pale geyser]

[true grove]

Hello, everyone doing interesting discussion while i was sleeping

[hushed steeple]

[queen locust]

i don't wanna be crude but w o w we've been quiet

lore chat sneeping soundly

[shadow star]

Yes

[deep kernel]

Anyone got an idea what next season might be?

[spring cairn]

maybe it's at the vault

season of intelligent

🧠

[vestal cedar]

I saw someone said its in forest, but I think it will be in vault

[bitter shale]

vault need a season tbh

vault need new area, forest already wide

[queen locust]

we had Archives

but like

we're also illiterate

[bitter shale]

heyyy if next season is indeed on vault, we might get more murals...

about king and elders, hopefully-

[queen locust]

this makes me realize that our skids are Gaston

Skids: how can you read this, there's no pictures!

[hushed steeple]

Tbh it'd be cool if it added like a secret stash area, like a hidden library or something

[paper matrix]

are we talking elders

[hushed steeple]

Do tell us

[bitter shale]

tell

[bright nymph]

I don't think i really can, because this info can only be found in game files and this is an official channel, so...

[bitter shale]

ah

better delete it fam

the mods are watching

[bright nymph]

Well, yeah, I'll do, thanks

[hushed steeple]

[rose gorge]

some of the hermit valley memories

and some from the cutscene (ignore the awkward pose spinning mentor is in please)

[pastel brook]

what mods? There is only skybot

[hushed steeple]

👀

[exotic berry]

Yeti Man has a fancy hoard.

Film clip of the Third Memory.

[graceful osprey]

do you thing those axes are for ice climbing or as a weapon?

[hushed steeple]

Ya'll

Who put the red candles, and why?

Like, they were clearly placed after the realms fell to ruins

[graceful osprey]

i also see firework staffs in those images

[hushed steeple]

Wake up people

The axes are a sacrificial altar

[bitter shale]

the axes were valley twins' once but then the hermit stole it

[teal orbit]

Lets plz just call them staffs... we dont know their purpose or limits yet

[graceful osprey]

magic staffs

[teal orbit]

The megabird ig... who else?

[hushed steeple]

You're blind
All of you!

I tell you

[teal orbit]

Most likely a weapon...

[graceful osprey]

It doesn't seem like yeti man needs weapons...

[teal orbit]

Leeeets not shhot down theories @hushed steeple

*shoot

[graceful osprey]

they could be someone else's...

[graceful osprey]

edit message

[hushed steeple]

He sacrifices children

[teal orbit]

Why would that be?

[hushed steeple]

You all are being fooled trusting it

[teal orbit]

I... dont trust the hermit

The spirits are evil

[graceful osprey]

1)he seems like quite a passive guy
2)he could just beat the average sized ancestors to pulp

[teal orbit]

Why would i trust the yeti

[hushed steeple]

He saved the child so he could kill it later

[teal orbit]

I-
You do realize their fur coat isnt the hermit's body hair...
The dude aint a wookiee lmao

[hushed steeple]

He's worst.

[graceful osprey]

I think the yeti is vegetarian...

[teal orbit]

Sure

[hushed steeple]

You say that until it devours you entirely

[graceful osprey]

but the jars could be full of pickled spirits and skykids

[teal orbit]

U should be more scared of teth...
Why're yall freaking out over the hermit?

[hushed steeple]

Hel literally has horns! Whats more to discuss!

He's satan reincarnated as a yeti

[teal orbit]

I hope u r jk...

[hushed steeple]

No im definitely being completely serious

[teal orbit]

Rlly?

[hushed steeple]

[graceful osprey]

as you can see, some of the jars in the cave look different to the ones for storing light. they are used to store something else. I dont see any reason for the yeti to have light jars

[hushed steeple]

Interesting observation 🤔

[teal orbit]

Skids are a new generation

Just sayin

[graceful osprey]

the staffs are not likely the yeti's

i think

who would have 2 staffs

[teal orbit]

Ancient egyptian mumification?

[hushed steeple]

I believe theres enough evidence here for a clear execution smh

[teal orbit]

Have you not heard of dual wielding hahaha

[graceful osprey]

of course I have

but have you thought about dual wielding staffs?

axes would make a lot more sense

[teal orbit]

Staffs make sense too

[graceful osprey]

think about having 2 magic wands

[teal orbit]

Remember u can u basically anything with those staffs

In these situations, its smarter to treat them like swords

If u get what i mean

[hushed steeple]

[pale geyser]

Storing... darkness?

[teal orbit]

U mean dust?

[graceful osprey]

darkness dust

ok

[chilly ridge]

yea so uh since the spirits are genderless, what about the belonging spirits?

[graceful osprey]

why was it deleted

[chilly ridge]

a

[sullen gazelle]

i hear intense debating

[chilly ridge]

there's like a mom and a dad

[hushed steeple]

Ye

[hushed steeple]

BuT wHy

[teal orbit]

Oh god what has this chat become...
I never thought i would see the day when lore chat became lifless enough for this to be called an intense debate...
Snow moon, u should have seen this place when lore chat was more interested in canon...
Ahhhh the good old days...
But ig the new rules have their fair share of merits too

[hushed steeple]

A h

[sullen gazelle]

Haha ok

[teal orbit]

Prolly cuz they had nothing better to do... yknow megan, always doing.... eccentric... things

[hushed steeple]

Nsnskaishbakaoaknajsiak

Wait what colour are ascended candles again?

No, not the icon

The actual candles

[teal orbit]

The same as the icon i think

[hushed steeple]

A h

So, also red?

[teal orbit]

Hey @hushed steeple, sup?

Hqhaha

Haha

[hushed steeple]

P f t

Btw

I just noticed

We collect wax from red candles

But

When we do a Light tribute