lore-discussion-spoilers

[icy spruce]

cool

[jovial nacelle]

Think about it, since we are inside the megabird, or we shape the megabird.

Let's think ourselves as blood cells.

We, our job is to make the megabird live.

HOWEVER

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

The Megabird is already dead.

It's HEADLESS

[nova widget]

┬─┬ ノ( ゜-゜ノ)

Hmm

Inchursting

[jovial nacelle]

.

indeed

[true grove]

Unless megabird is a blob of light

[willow shoal]

[true grove]

[true grove]

Did i just krilled the chat?
Give me my record :pPopcorn:

[jovial nacelle]

ha

[jade mauve]

megabird?

can someone explain i just joined?

[willow shoal]

oh

[willow shoal]

Hello new Lore Moff!
Read this short document to get started! Once you’ve read this, check out pins for more information.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit

gosh it freezes again

[teal orbit]

If golems can be made out of light, sure...
But u sure abt skids being light creatures? U reference concepts a lot and the concepts say we r neutral...

But think abt it... if we are INSIDE the megabird, how do we know what it looks like aside from that concept?
We DO have that pic from the cutscene remember?

[teal orbit]

I was talking abt that

[true grove]

No need to read any docs to share your theories. We should stop sharing lore moth docs

#lore-discussion-spoilers message

[bitter shale]

i mean

we can just reccomen lore moff to read the doc if they want to

only reccomend tho

no matter if they gonna read it or not

[sly kestrel]

I recommend they do read it bc they need to understand that there rlly is no concrete written story that everyone expects there is and the lore moff doc explains a lot about what actually happens with the lore and the tiny details most players want

[teal orbit]

i never understood that one.... if they dont read our "introduction to lore" doc, how will they ever know what we are talking abt?
even without the fanon names, there are dozens of concepts that dont show up in the game, like the prince and the king...
tbh, i was looking for more docs to read when i started and i was so confused... im thankful someone showed me the lore moff doc to this day

[true grove]

Recommending to read it is ok. But telling new people that they have to read it to join isn't good. Seraph explained everything thing

[teal orbit]

sure sure

[true grove]

I agree with you docs are interesting
But we can make a welcoming environment by answering the questions instead of sending them to docs. After that we can recommend them

[teal orbit]

sure sure

[true grove]

So what are we discussing today

[teal orbit]

the sky shop poems

im thinking we can squeeze out a few canonically backed theories outta those

im not saying all theories should adhere to canon

[true grove]

Yeah they sound lore like

So do we have a compilation of them

[teal orbit]

i dont think so

i wanna write smth that gets pinned here

so imma compile them now lol

Don’t weep, dear Elder, we heed your heart,
Tomorrow is a new day.
The scattered light, you broke in vain,
No longer falls apart.
“Dear Child, we waited your return,
Our true savior of the sky.”
Let love and compassion deeply in,
With you, we too will heal.

Hear the Mantas call to us,
Drizzle mutes our way.
Rest with us under shelter,
Stay warm from cold, we lay.

Follow the light, sweet Manta.
For we will fly with you.
Side by side, up on migration.
To home once more.

Chibi, do you remember when we first met?
Chibi, the times we watched sundown?
Chibi, how I nursed you well?
Chibi, seeking me this lifetime?
Thank you, Chibi.
With you, I am not afraid.

A kiss to share in highest highs,
A kiss to bear in lowest lows.
You inspire me everyday.
You encourage me every way.
You are my superstar, my best performance,
My stardust, my northern light.

Save all your whispers,
Your soothing words.
Descend to friends, soar up to birds,
Through even a long day, they wait alone,
Your crabs, they huddle, as you come home.

The show must go on!
Won’t wait a season longer.
The troupe moves to rhythm.
Your ship steers onwards.
Before then, you slowly ponder...
What a crowd, what an act, what a stage,
What a thought it would be to meet you here again!

some of these are pretty useless

but who knows...

[queen locust]

https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/1BdMPoH0kRZOYDKvl2g5eQSH0h6JlvMHgBFs7P5Lg9NE/edit

https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/1KXGeF3qEJ20eklv5ErOVWcJ66X9d0_4oFIFyKWWezPY/edit?ouid=111696134187527164036&usp=docs_home&ths=true

[teal orbit]

dang

[queen locust]

Links to both Skyshop poem docs

[teal orbit]

pin pin pin

oh i bet we can make a "things we can now confirm as canon based on the poems" doc

what say you, @queen locust

[queen locust]

huh what- I'm actually not even sure these are that canon

[teal orbit]

they.... arent???

[queen locust]

much less do I want to have to try and dissect these

[teal orbit]

well... if i dissect and dm them to u, can u make the doc?

[queen locust]

Bruh if you write those on a google doc of your own that'd be easier

[teal orbit]

i dont wanna....

ik im lazy

[icy spruce]

why

[teal orbit]

but plz

dividing work always makes it easier

[queen locust]

wh- just write the dissection on a blank google doc- that is literally less work than sending them to me and having me make the doc

[teal orbit]

there is so much thats in those poems that could refine canon A LOT

[teal orbit]

i want the doc to be pretty

[icy spruce]

bruh

[queen locust]

and I write everything in Arial and Calibri

[teal orbit]

its ok

[icy spruce]

relatable

[teal orbit]

i have my reasons...

plz?

[icy spruce]

You can just write it later

Pyre

You don't have to ask someone

[queen locust]

Tell you what- a microsoft word document works just as well

[hidden scaffold]

Just make a copy into your own drive.

edit from there

[teal orbit]

okokok i`ll do it on my own then...

[icy spruce]

mk

[teal orbit]

[icy spruce]

So, lore

[hidden scaffold]

tom zhao's concept art (fanon btw) has some ideas about the division of working class

we see it reflected on the world design, especially in valley and wasteland. my theory is... maybe there's a way to examine the clothes that the ancestor spirits wear, to tell what kind of position they have in the kingdom

so that way when we identify spirits, we can see which realm they actually came from and what sorta life background they had. instead of linking them exclusively to the region they're in :v

[true grove]

good work

[true grove]

We see several other valley spirits in memories of village spirits. So my guess is that they existed in same timeline

[teal orbit]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ztS2AmTd6zZ_4FCUyWKqzxYgPn1ZytsKgb8A2XA98tE/edit

there we go

all the pieces of canon clearly stated by the poems

surprisingly few tho...

dissappointed..

[teal orbit]

Interesting... send me a link and lets get to work lol

[true grove]

It isn't opening

[teal orbit]

Huh?

Oh no

Oop im on my phone rn

[teal orbit]

When i get back to my laptop i will fix it and ping u ok?

Ok yashl...

It should work...

@true grove

[true grove]

[hidden scaffold]

i... need to take more ancestor screenshots before i can examine them and make a doc

[teal orbit]

Try going to sky's fandom

[teal orbit]

I bet they have screenshots of all the spirits

Soooo? What dya think, yashl?

U r my beta tester rn

[true grove]

Elder is responsible for flight
And together again, we fly.

I think this refers to past beta versions in which elders used to give us wings

[teal orbit]

But those poems are abt live, and they are for sky merch that only work on the live version of the game...

Plus, those poems were made pretty recently

So they are prob not based on beta

At least not exclusively

[true grove]

Maybe elders giving us wings was the original concept. Stars were pretty late addition to sky.
They could've just put in poem as it isn't necessary to use pins :pPopcorn:

[willow shoal]

[teal orbit]

Poems are descriptions of the live version of the game by the devs...

So i think its canon..

[acoustic stream]

Lore discussion here I come again 😭😂😂😂 what’s the chat about today?

[teal orbit]

today is a new day for canon

[willow shoal]

guys there’s a video introducing Jenova Chen about the ideas of eden

However it is fully in Chinese

[compact olive]

@wind bone “please keep the inside jokes and fanon names to a minimum. To be clear, please stop referring to Sky elders with their old concept Hebrew names and referring to the megabird as "Megan". These things often mentioned here are either fan-based or scrapped long ago during development”

Does this include the word Krill or Skid / Sky Kid? Because I think these are Fan-based names as well.

[willow shoal]

https://b23.tv/iVQq8s

here’s the video

[teal orbit]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vQxwa348ZOfxTuTsLRrpwQuVUG7DkfeUgiruBY5bGbcY9lU5riJxeIq7nB2JT2O1qZ0GDTUuP6cgCiH/pub

^ here is the final version

[teal orbit]

whats this? translation?

[willow shoal]

a video introducing Jenova Chen about the ideas of eden

[teal orbit]

oh

[willow shoal]

Sorry for no translation

[teal orbit]

what dya think abt my doc?

feedback is needed

[willow shoal]

thatskyshop Poem doc?

[teal orbit]

ye

[willow shoal]

👍

I made this before

[teal orbit]

i.. cant read it

[willow shoal]

I suggest that the doc could be added more languages versions

[teal orbit]

this is an english only server tho...

if u cant read english u should be in another community iirc

[willow shoal]

well, I mix English/Chinese/Japanese together

[teal orbit]

u dont see me writing stuff in korean do you?

[willow shoal]

I forgot the korean

if tgc offers more language versions of poem, i’ll add it

[teal orbit]

great

aside from language

[compact olive]

Elder of The Forest Pin
"Don’t weep, dear Elder, we heed your heart, Tomorrow is a new day.
The scattered light, you broke in vain,
No longer falls apart,
“Dear Child, we waited your return,
Our true savior of the sky.
Let love and compassion deeply in,
With you, we too will heal."

[teal orbit]

yes?

what abt it?

oz?

[hazy cliff]

I thought it’s “The scattered light you broke in vain no longer falls apart” or don’t I remember it right?

[teal orbit]

yea

oz just deleted it

ig we will see why in a moment

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vQxwa348ZOfxTuTsLRrpwQuVUG7DkfeUgiruBY5bGbcY9lU5riJxeIq7nB2JT2O1qZ0GDTUuP6cgCiH/pub

meanwhile, ppl, plz read this thru and check for any errors plz

if u wanna that is

[compact olive]

She, The Forest Elder (who in concept art had the name Teth ) is implied to have broken the light intentionally “in vain”

“The scattered light, you broke in vain”

She tried to break the light... why?

Perhaps the people, the fallen stars (who were also called ancestors in concept art) might have been the ones to abuse the diamonds (also called power diamonds in concept art) ?

[teal orbit]

u dont remember the cutscene?

she was trying to make diamonds

the sledge hammer

and also that

[teal orbit]

yes...

[compact olive]

To do something in vain is to do it intentionally... but to no avail or with no positive result

[bitter shale]

to form the diamond, maybe

teth use it to made diamonds

[compact olive]

So this poem (from that game company’s pin shop) implies that the forest elder (who’s name was to be Teth in concept art) did this act of breaking the diamond on purpose

[bitter shale]

....there is a reason why their temple have manta juicer-

[bitter shale]

no they didnt break the diamond

they break the light to made diamond

and the light here might reffering to light creatures

[compact olive]

Ahhh then nothings changed and it’s exactly the same as when we original theorized she used mantas for manta. Juice . Okay .

[bitter shale]

i mena you can theorize that teth might use more bigger light source-

like idk people maybe idk lol

[compact olive]

I thought the “scattered” and “broke” in the poem (located in the game company pin shop) was about the shattered and broken diamond (which was called a power diamond in concept art)

[bitter shale]

you see my pfp? its a picture of reborn cycle. notice that light creatures are sourced from a bigger light deity...

this lead to speculation that light creatures are scattered light of Megabird

[slender raptor]

I think the poem is talking about how teth broke the light in vain, making it scattered. But when we enter the cutscene we glue the stuff together with our light so it no longer falls apart

[compact olive]

Scattered light of The megabird (who is named in concept art depicted as the bird shape of light in space/orbit) hmmmm I see

[bitter shale]

good intrepetation btw

[compact olive]

Yes I can see how the forest elder (named Teth in concept art) was break the “light” in the poem and not the diamond (also called power diamonds in concept art)

[bitter shale]

while i myself intrepeted the scattered light here as light creatures, its nice to see others repretetations hehe

[slender raptor]

When you.. juice light creatures, how does their light scatter? Im trying to grasp the idea theyre like glass..

[bitter shale]

tbh i see megabird like megakaryocyte... a big cell in bone marrow that producing platelets that will help on wound recovery.

basically, platelets are reproduced from megakaryocyte by fragmentation. These fragments will enter blood stream and called as platelets.

This how i see the connection of megabird and light creatures : megabirds from some concept arts are depicted as a massive light creature that will release smaller light creatures. it can be saif that these smaller light creatures are fragments of megabird, or scattered light from the Light

[past mountain]

perhaps she intended to create diamonds using the light she acquired from the light creatures, in vain, since she did not succeed (the cutscene depicted her being unable to forge the diamond before we arrive)

[bitter shale]

my take is they cannot forge the diamond since they didnt have any light left

[bitter shale]

can you imagine squishing a lemon or orange? maybe its like that

[past mountain]

hmm, how would "break" translate in that context tho... I'm searching for something else since she (logically) wouldn't break the diamond

but breaking the light creatures, to reach for their light

perhaps

I'm not sure ofc, just some theories owo

[bitter shale]

breaking, squishing, juicing, extracting

[past mountain]

feel free to enrich/debunk this theory owowo

[bitter shale]

imagine light creature as a wet sponge. imagine squishing that wet sponge until there is no water left

[past mountain]

i feel very bad for the mantas

[bitter shale]

[slender raptor]

exactly- that's why i think it's not very probable the "light" refers to the creatures.

[past mountain]

if that's the case, then we also aid her in creating diamonds, the same diamonds she attempted to create using the light of the creatures

[bitter shale]

tbh same, i love sky mantas ;-; i cant help but to feel sad whenever i imagine manta squisher-

[bitter shale]

we need the diamond to open their temple door anyway-

[past mountain]

yeah... that makes me think that the elders' intentions might not be so pure... but anyway, theories theories theories (most of them untrue)

so how is "break" used here? what else, that is considered light, could she have broken, and in vain?

first of all, let's analyse this: "the scattered light, you broke in vain, no longer falls apart"

I perceive the scattered light as light creatures, uncontrolled, free in the "wild"

which also reminds me that we shouldn't compare our own world to sky - the "juicing" or "extracting" might also not have been something cruel

[slender raptor]

"The scattered light, you broke in vain,
No longer falls apart" teth either broke the light, or the scattered light. for the former- it could refer to megabird. but how does converting lightjuice into diamonds scatter the light? the latter- it could refer to the light creatures. but why do they no longer fall apart?

and why "in vain"?

[past mountain]

the "in vain" I think refers to her broken diamond in the cutscene

she attempted to create diamonds using the light, but failed

the diamond could've also been destroyed by something else tho owo

but that's the most accurate explanation I can provide for the phrase "in vain"

[bitter shale]

hmm this statement of yours make thinking

if the scattered light here indeed reffering to the diamond... and Teth broke it in vain (which is intentional)... do you think it because they realize the danger that diamond can cause? it is heavily hinted that Teth is the one who create the diamond in the first place... and when they find out the danger they try to destroy it but it is too late...

[past mountain]

so that means that the light became scattered after the breaking, and it was not scattered before

nice theory owo

I really like this

[bitter shale]

the forest temple door implied taht to create a diamond need a balanced amount of darkness and light

[past mountain]

I interpreted as scattered in the first place, leading to the conclusion that it originated from light creatures; but now that you say this, I think your theory is better owo

and the "in vain" could refer to the fact that even though teth broke it, it could not avert the crisis

[bitter shale]

if the scattered light here reffering to light creatures... Teth might intentionally 'break' these light creatures in order to make diamonds... but the diamond producing is, while very useful it also bring a terrible consecuences... they might didnt realize the danger at first, too blinded by greed, but when the danger become too big to ignore they are trying to prevent it, but it is already too late...

[past mountain]

oof I need to go, will come back later owo

[bitter shale]

here is the thing, light creatures that died because of unnatural cause will leave bone or carcass... manta does have bones (can be seen from vault), but if the production of diamonds requiring the 'juicing' or 'squishing' the mantas...

[neat flint]

:0 hi

[bitter shale]

they might didnt leave intact bones. they might leave sludges

hi math!

im assuming the light creature carcasses are the one who formed the sludges in GW

[willow shoal]

previous skykids

[compact olive]

They have the same exact markings as elders

[slender raptor]

If the light is the diamond and teth realizes the danger they pose then why are we skids trying to restore it? (Putting the flame into a diamond happened twice- once in forest, once in vault)

[bitter shale]

The dieamond that were restored is used to open the door... this is like the least thing teth do for the skid : they can open the door for the skid to proceed

[graceful osprey]

they look like belonging symbols

what if there are more than one megbird like creatures

[teal orbit]

how does aqua johnny have all those super cool pics?

[willow shoal]

from internet

[teal orbit]

not the diamond... teth broke the candle, and back in the day, teth broke the mantas and birds...
see...
let me spell it out for u:
The scattered light, you broke in vain > thats the light she smashes with here sledge hammer, be it candle, manta, or bird
No longer falls apart. y'know how at the start of teth's cutscene, teth has all those small diamond shards and teth is sad and frustrated?
thats the failed version... the ones that fell apart... get it now?

[teal orbit]

oh.

[teal orbit]

i was asking like a specific site...

ofc it was the internet

[willow shoal]

some are from Tom Zhao’s Site and others are found in game or in google

[teal orbit]

ohhhhh

right tom zhao`s site

how did i forget that lol

[willow shoal]

[teal orbit]

sooo

what do u have to say abt the poem canon doc?

[willow shoal]

well, hmmm I don’t think highly of the poem

[teal orbit]

but the canon derived from them will prove useful

but for it to be recognizable as canon, it should not have any logical flaws

so thats why im asking

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vQxwa348ZOfxTuTsLRrpwQuVUG7DkfeUgiruBY5bGbcY9lU5riJxeIq7nB2JT2O1qZ0GDTUuP6cgCiH/pub

another link

cuz the old one was buried far beneath chat

[willow shoal]

here’s my collections of lore

[uneven moth]

guys is some german people here? i am done with my first part with my german fanfiction about the eden eldar. and would like if someone from the lore could read it and help me if i did sth wrong 😅

[willow shoal]

i’m lazy and i didn’t have completed the doc

[uneven moth]

if yeah just dm me ^^

[willow shoal]

oh gosh, the channel freezes AGAIN

[true grove]

I just found

||NOTHING ||

[livid valley]

I got pranked

[lone wigeon]

General is a mess so I came here

[true grove]

This is a mess too, but slow

[lone wigeon]

Well, then uh, I got a question

You know the well known 2 player doors

[livid valley]

Mhm

[lone wigeon]

They require a candle. Does this mean that spirits also carry candles? Have we ever seen one doing so?
And again, they seem rather not practical to use
For example the workshop in praire village. Why would spirit working there need a second person to acces it. Its not that important, is it

And yeah, did the spirits carry candles

[livid valley]

I don't think they carry candles or seen one doing

[true grove]

I think it's an in game thing the diamonds could've been there but the way to open might be different

[livid valley]

It could be just trying to make people cooperative but to lore it can be security. And they could be using a object of kind to open the doors without candles specifically

[true grove]

Also as we see in forest elder cutscene it might be that way to tell us that diamonds were made to store light

[pure leaf]

Well maybe it's the light, not the candles.

The Elders each had a way to use light right?

[lone wigeon]

Maybe
That would be soo cool if they could just touch it and boom

[livid valley]

I'd say heat

[lone wigeon]

Thats kinda ood since only red candles work, right?

[livid valley]

I'f i's light and the diamond need slot just to function it's something that seems like a bad power function

[true grove]

Yes,
Isle used it to guide birds
Prairie used it to make butterflies
Forest for diamond
Valley as a sport
Wasteland to open vault
Vault to make diamond

[teal orbit]

YAY did u guys see that?
someone accidentally spelled elder as ELDAR!!!!!
hahaha i thought i would not live to see this moment!!!

thats an eldar ^

btw

[livid valley]

Lmao

[lone wigeon]

Gj potato

[pure leaf]

Well that is the only candle we have...

[true grove]

[lone wigeon]

Not really

[teal orbit]

yeah.. ig thats tru

[lone wigeon]

I mean
We can pull out white candles, or the fireplace

I think im getting into gameplay side

[true grove]

Those work too

[lone wigeon]

And that its dead end

Wha

[teal orbit]

the white candle is a candle in your inventory... its not smth u have with u all the time and it burns out.... unlike the red candle

[true grove]

They burn darkness plants faster

[livid valley]

The white candle I believe is the small light burning during the starting of the game keeping you alive

[pure leaf]

The fireplace is fire, not a candle and white candles are like currency... If you put a fireplace on a diamond does it open? I've never tried it...

[teal orbit]

not.. really... cuz when the game starts, u dont have a white candle.. just the red one...

[livid valley]

What you mean I took out a red candle

Of my chest

[pure leaf]

()_o

[teal orbit]

no it doesnt nor does it burn darkness plants

[lone wigeon]

Thats weird too

[graceful osprey]

i disagree, cos you can see that during putting your red candle away you slap a light into your chest

[true grove]

I've seen someone try the feast table but dunno if it worked

[teal orbit]

yeah

[teal orbit]

wait what?

[pure leaf]

It does have candles on it...

[lone wigeon]

I tried in vault
It didnt

[livid valley]

Gain light +1

[floral plinth]

I've seen someone on youtube do that to open 2 player door

[pure leaf]

Hmmmmm, cool.

[graceful osprey]

WHAT NOW?

[teal orbit]

yeah... i agree... especially since you dont have any white candles at the start of the game.... try going thru the tutorial again and u will see lol

[true grove]

Yeah i saw the feast table at Prairie door but it was already open so idk if it worked

[livid valley]

It's been too long I have played sky to remember I have a red candle in my chest

[teal orbit]

well, idk abt diamonds, but it cant burn darkness plants so doesnt count as a real candle

[lone wigeon]

Yah, did anyone ever talk about the candle in chest?

[teal orbit]

i did..

[floral plinth]

like, they place the fire exactly under the diamond so the fire will light up the diamond

[lone wigeon]

That is so weird
And the fact it only shuts down when we burn out

Flame connected to our soul in form of a candle

[livid valley]

That's kinda why I believe it's the one keeping us alive when you have no winged lights

[teal orbit]

yeah that flame is YOUR flame
the one that goes out when u r in the rain for too long

[graceful osprey]

i think the candle is just to hold the flame, not an actual part of us

[lone wigeon]

That does make sense

Or does it...

[true grove]

I saw some original concept art and in that skids had fire instead of a candle

[livid valley]

Hmm.

[lone wigeon]

I was thinking about the capes... and the spirits wearing them.
We know that our capes and we are connected, but did spirits know about this?
And the fact that they could actually fly?
Were there any winged light back then?

Their capes Have no stars do they couldnt Have fly

But what the hell are these things

[teal orbit]

oh yes sure sure but the flame its holding is THE flame

[teal orbit]

awwww wuts that

[livid valley]

I believe their capes are to look cool when they see the other generations of skid having it though I could be massively wrong

[graceful osprey]

yeah thats what i meant

[livid valley]

Early desgins of skids

[teal orbit]

haha

they look so much better

[true grove]

https://imgur.com/a/I2YiQXA

[teal orbit]

those early designs are so pretty

[livid valley]

The devs seem to want the much more Mysterious way

[teal orbit]

noooo

why...

[uneven moth]

Hahahaa yeah I know. I am also writing a story about my pnp eldar character xD I never thought Someone here would know them too!

[livid valley]

To make our brains burn ofc

Oh

Wrong reply

Damn

[uneven moth]

Hahaha it’s ok

[livid valley]

Sorry sorry

[true grove]

[teal orbit]

yeeeesssss
blood moths for the blood god krill
sculls vets for the scull throne eden
- 🌽

[uneven moth]

Haahahahahahah you like them too I quess? XD

[teal orbit]

im not much of a chaos fan...

i like the eldar the best...

then maybe the tau?

the imperium ranks third

[uneven moth]

Hmmm. I know more about the eldar as about the dark eldar. Have to say I am reading the eldar books before the dark eldar books xD

Hmmmm I don’t really like the Imperium a lot. (Sheeesh don’t burn me because of my heresie)

[teal orbit]

nope not the dark eldar too spiky... i like the gentle streamlined flow of asuryani weapons

im not too deep inot wh40k tho...

more of a star wars fan myself

[uneven moth]

Yeeh know what you mean but for one day I had to read more about them for a fake background story. (Yk mission in pnp) well there I saw that they are pretty interesting)

[uneven moth]

Yeah same. I am pretty new

[teal orbit]

huh...

i... think we need to get back on topic before the mods krill us

[uneven moth]

Hahahahah would it be okay if I dm you? I would like to write more with someone who also like them

[teal orbit]

sure

[uneven moth]

Thanks ^^

[teal orbit]

OH OH oz the great and powerful is a fan too

i dont wanna cold ping them rn

[uneven moth]

Hmmm. You just can offer him to a small group if you want

[teal orbit]

aaaand there is no action here

[livid valley]

Give a topic

[wind bone]

When you say sky kid it’s obvious what you are talking about, vs names from concept art that most people will not have seen or known about. Krill is different since it’s been a nickname for the dark dragons (and at one point an official name) by the community and developers since before the launch of the game

[willow shoal]

Freezing again

[willow shoal]

No topic?

[graceful osprey]

hello

more than one megabird lol

umm light creature migration

As you can see there are birds and mantas coming from all directions, it suggests that light creatures live everywhere, and that there might be more kingdoms/realms to explore

[pseudo heart]

Okay so

I would like to add

[graceful osprey]

add what?

[pseudo heart]

About this

Uhm

Some of the poem may be referring to past elder concepts I mean

Especially Forest's

I mentioned this before

The poem would fit beta Forest Elder more

[hoary violet]

has anyone made an encyclopedia of sky creatures

id like to make a book of the manta variants and jellies and stuff

[pseudo heart]

Ah,, I've made a chart for manta variants with Chrome spice, would you like to see??

[hoary violet]

yes please

[pseudo heart]

Elder manta isn't included hh

Aight

[hoary violet]

[pseudo heart]

Time to sneep

Good night lore chat !!

[hoary violet]

dont mantas have mouths

gn

[pseudo heart]

Yes they do hh

[hoary violet]

[pseudo heart]

I'll probably add more stuff when I get the time to.. incl elder manta.. Gotta update boat chart too aaaa

[hoary violet]

thanks for sharing

i have more stuff to share but ill shut up so you can get sneep

[pseudo heart]

I'd love to hear them in the mornin tho

[willow shoal]

[hoary violet]

i think mantas taste like pasta

[willow shoal]

pasta?...

[hoary violet]

with butter

no sauce

now i want manta shaped ravioli or something

are spirit mantas and jelly mushrooms made of the same material

[lone wigeon]

why would you ever imagine that

why would anyone ever

w..why

[tawdry dune]

Manta pasta with a side of crab?

[fading peak]

TGC start making manta ravioli and jelly mushroom marshmallows

[lone wigeon]

what is wrong with you ppl, mushroom marshmallows, eating our friendly mantas, what

[fading peak]

Okay but if the ancestors and elders didn’t eat mantas or jellyfish.. what did they eat? Did they eat crabs and only crabs? Because if that’s the case, that would imply they either hunted them to near extinction or they farmed them

[hoary violet]

WELL

In the ark there’s a farm

So they might’ve been omnivores

Unless the crops were used for making fabric or something

[fading peak]

Why not both?

[hoary violet]

[gloomy stag]

There's a website for Sky concept arts that include some light creatures!You have to scroll a bit, but would you like the link?

[hoary violet]

yes please

i wanna make a collage/scrapbook about the creatures but from a skykids perspective

[gloomy stag]

https://www.tomzhao.com/sky1
Here you go!

[hoary violet]

yoooo theres so many concepts that didnt get into the game that im gonna steal for fanart

[gloomy stag]

I like looking through these pics for fun!Theres some stuff that wasn't added in game that seem cool!

[hoary violet]

these are beautiful

YOOOOOOOOOO LOOK AT THIS

modern sky

sorry, im getting off topic lol

I’d love to play a game that takes place in that flooded city

the vibe is so different

ok one last thing

has anyone discussed this yet

[graceful osprey]

HUMANS?

so...

THEY ARE ON EARTH?

i found something linking whales to krill

looks like the whale dies and it light decides to go adios an there are some bones left. In the absence of light darkstone grows on it

concept arts conflict so much sometimes

where did your message go?

[graceful osprey]

wait maybe humans have become extinct (on earth at least) so that the kingdom of sky could thrive

[hoary violet]

That’s what shocked me about this lore channel

[graceful osprey]

yes global warming

thats why its flooded

[hoary violet]

I always thought of this game as more of a metaphor for life and death but people here always talk about the sky world as if it’s an actual place

But I think of it as more of a concept

[graceful osprey]

life benefitting from the death of others maybe

[hoary violet]

[hushed steeple]

I think Sky has like a deeper meaning as in life in endless and so are the possibilities and Sky has become like an actual home to others

[graceful osprey]

like the kingdom of sky benefitted from the extinction of humans

[hoary violet]

It appears that the elders and stuff were originally neutral

not good or bad

They did some bad stuff but weren’t bad guys

[graceful osprey]

if the concept arts are true, then why don't we see ourselves in the human workd after being reborn?

[hoary violet]

Maybe we are in the human world

[hushed steeple]

[hoary violet]

and the realms are just what our souls see

[wind bone]

Remember that concepts are just concepts! This doesn’t mean that what they are showing aren’t in game or scrapped per say, it could just be in a different format now

[hoary violet]

we’re just throwing around ideas

[graceful osprey]

or maybe we don't experience anything in the human world. everything except our personalities get erased when we go to the world of sky.

[wind bone]

Yeah that’s fine, just try not to get into the mindset of things being 100% right or wrong

[hoary violet]

I’m not

Maybe that’s what the vault is for

[wind bone]

I don’t mean you specifically 😅

[graceful osprey]

i haven't

[hoary violet]

archiving our human experiences n stuff

[hoary violet]

oh sorry lol

[graceful osprey]

note how it says "empty souls"

very well could be

do you think isle of dawn counts as the kingdom of sky?

[hoary violet]

hmmmmm

[graceful osprey]

because it only says sky when we are between isle and prairie

[hoary violet]

the human world is where our bodies are but our hearts are in the spirit world

[pulsar iris]

Morning guys! What’s the topic 👀

[lethal stump]

watching lore moffs discover the concept arts is cute

[graceful osprey]

link between human world and sky world

[hoary violet]

me and pikachuncoming up with wack theories about what sky is based on concept art

[graceful osprey]

maybe humans are the same as skykids

[hoary violet]

did you just call us cute

[graceful osprey]

im not a moff :(

humans have evolved to adapt to their post-apocolypse situation

[lethal stump]

relative to me, you and crumch are moths uwu

[graceful osprey]

ow

[hoary violet]

I’m shaking and crying how could you say this

[lethal stump]

i've been here since about June 2020, you're babies, its adorable
now continue, im intrigued with what you come up with

[hoary violet]

ive been here since august 2019

[pulsar iris]

I-

[hoary violet]

but I only joined the discord recently

[graceful osprey]

i only found out about this server recently

[lethal stump]

im speaking in terms of the server, yeah

[graceful osprey]

i've been here since around march 2020

[lethal stump]

anyways back to lore uwu

[graceful osprey]

yes

[spring blaze]

why did i think march 2020 was 3 months ago 🧍

[hoary violet]

We’re using our fresh, smooth brains to come up with the most ridiculous theories

[pulsar iris]

Ayeee We started around the same time!

[graceful osprey]

I think megabird is a selfish cosmic entity which benefits from absorbing skykids

[pulsar iris]

So who are the skykids and how does it connect to the human world

[hoary violet]

we’re the embodiments of human souls

[graceful osprey]

it sucks the soul out of the ascended skykids and yeets them back onto earth

[hoary violet]

Megan really just went and regurgitated a child back onto earth but kept their soul

[lethal stump]

only thing i wonder, is if the sky and human worlds were connected, dont you reckon the sky world would show signs of human intervention ? it looks rather alien imo

[graceful osprey]

ded

[hoary violet]

We’re mostly discussing concept art

which does have human stuff in it

[lethal stump]

the old concepts, yes

[graceful osprey]

in the isle of dawn concept arts there were what seemed like some modern buildings

[lethal stump]

although as time went on, it was solidified by the devs that the sky and human worlds are separate

[graceful osprey]

WHAT

[hoary violet]

I’m hiring myself to be a sky dev and changing the rules

You can’t stop me

[graceful osprey]

crumch i was just describing that city

i still beleive that the sky kingdom is in the same universe as Earth (note how i said the same universe but not planet or solar system)

[lethal stump]

although there is s o m e possibility that the human and sky worlds will be revealed to be connected, specifically based on this interaction reika had with someone in the chat:

q: can skykids travel outside the world of sky?
a: douzen thats gonna be a spoiler so i cant say

[hoary violet]

bricky joining this is like an Olympic wrestler joining some kids play fighting

[graceful osprey]

VERY INTERESTING

[hoary violet]

if the universe is infinite then that means that the sky world could be out there

[graceful osprey]

what about the laws of physics?

[hoary violet]

AHEM I think skykids could be the spirits of humans. Not actual people, but the little glimmers that make each person different and keep us going.

[graceful osprey]

ok you made me picture a skykid in a control room in a human's brain

why did you say no to the laws of physics?

[wind bone]

If u think about it

[hoary violet]

because physics are overrated

[graceful osprey]

I mean tho it is possible

[wind bone]

Isle elder is kind of like Charon and the river Styx

[graceful osprey]

It would be more like a simulation than a natural kingdom

[wind bone]

I wouldn’t worry about physics too much since like every video game doesn’t have 1:1 real world physics

Unless it’s the point of the game

[graceful osprey]

but we are literally F L Y I N G

[hoary violet]

Charon

[graceful osprey]

i'm scared

[hoary violet]

we also don’t have mouths and can make breathing sounds

[wind bone]

sky kids are just built different

[hoary violet]

we’re quirky

[graceful osprey]

don't drag me on a boat and take me across a river to the underworld

[wind bone]

Instead of a river to the underworld it’s across the clouds to a “paradise”

[graceful osprey]

what if we breath out of our eye holes?

[wind bone]

That’s evil

But what if 🤔

[hoary violet]

but then the paradise is actually Eden and then a portal to go back and do it all again

[graceful osprey]

pain

[hoary violet]

thank y’all for humoring my crazy theories lol

[wind bone]

Wait if sky kids breathe through their eyes what happens when they aren’t wearing a mask

Since they keep their eyes closed

[hoary violet]

uh

[woven perch]

this is all terrifying

[graceful osprey]

they just blow air out in all directions

[wind bone]

Wow kind of like how frogs drink through their skin....

[hoary violet]

you just show up in the pity room if you spend too much time maskless

[graceful osprey]

or their head explodes or they have porous skin

[hoary violet]

Its beautiful

POROUS SKYKIDS

[lethal stump]

skykids do have nose-like protrusions if you look at their model from the side, i think they have noses but it'd be too graphics-intensive to model the nostrils and details

[wind bone]

Yeah but who wants logic here

[hoary violet]

I personally like that skykids don’t have too many details, they’d fall into the uncanny valley if we had all the weird details like nostrils

[graceful osprey]

this is lore chat

[lethal stump]

realistic skykids would be horrifying

[woven perch]

i wouldnt be opposed to the idea of skykids not really having the ability to breath and stuff, but rather imitating the spirits for the sake of it because its cute

[true grove]

What- what are yall taking about

[wind bone]

Art of sky kids with fingers still freaks me out even tho I know logically they do have fingers

[graceful osprey]

I think the "nose" shape is just to make sky kids look better to each other

[pulsar iris]

UM ARE WE DEAD ALREADY THEN???

[hoary violet]

That’s what I headcanon

[wind bone]

Well the game is centered around death and rebirth

[hoary violet]

Coming in here after playing too much Spiritfarer was probably a bad idea

[wind bone]

Did you know in pre launch beta instead of waking up in home you’d wake up on the isle shores!

Even after finishing eden you’d end up in isle

[true grove]

And that made much more sense

[pulsar iris]

So are we just Stella then? ||Wandering around till we feel like dying again?||

I put spoilers just in case some of you didn’t finish

[lethal stump]

similar, giccix
imo i like to imagine skykids dont need to eat, breathe, sleep, etc., but they do it to mimic the spirits (although this is mostly for fanfic sdfng)

[hoary violet]

home should be part of isle

[graceful osprey]

because skykids are "born" on isle of dawn. But spawning at home would be a lot easier

[true grove]

Why do we have nose if we don't breathe

[hoary violet]

A headcanon I have is that skykids don’t really have feelings but they learn them from spirits

[pulsar iris]

So we- the dead children, are tasked with visiting a dead world, to save long dead spirits ? So we can all die together ?? In eden??

[hoary violet]

and maybe take the things they learn back to the human world

[woven perch]

thats like saying why do we have eyes if skykids dont even need to open them to walk

[lethal stump]

take a water shot every time we say "die" "dead" or "death"

[pulsar iris]

... what if when the game is shut down there’s one final cutscene

[wind bone]

I found it heres me and my friend in isle after eden

[pulsar iris]

And we all wake up, with hands and fingers and human faces, to our parents

[graceful osprey]

NO THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN

[wind bone]

You can tell it’s old bc cookie pendant

[hoary violet]

OH MY GOD

[pulsar iris]

Everything good must end right? Death is in the game as we know it

The game will die one day ..

[hoary violet]

That would be a great ending

[graceful osprey]

i know

every game will

[pulsar iris]

[hoary violet]

I regularly think about sky’s connection to cloud

one of tgc’s early games

[graceful osprey]

humanity will annihilate itself

[wind bone]

Crumch you know abt sky originally being a cloud sequel right?

[hoary violet]

incoming existential crisis

[hoary violet]

WAIT WHAT

[wind bone]

Yeah jenova talked about it in an edge article

[true grove]

I want to fully restore eden at the end. End could be like we all gathered enough light to restore eden

[graceful osprey]

we die twice

[pulsar iris]

And we look outside at a star lit sky... and see a single manta singing on its way to orbit

[graceful osprey]

in sky, you only live trillions of times

[wind bone]

https://www.gamesradar.com/free-to-play-mobile-game-sky-like-a-spiritual-sequel-of-flower-journey-and-cloud-explains-jenova-chen/

[pulsar iris]

Fanfic loading...

[lethal stump]

....[sighs] eden crown

[pulsar iris]

So sky is basically the culmination of everything tgc has ever created

The love child of the company, the final masterpiece

[lethal stump]

except flow

[woven perch]

the early prototypes do look a bit like cloud dont they

[lethal stump]

flow is the weird redheaded cousin

[graceful osprey]

flow is irrelevant

[hoary violet]

I should do art of a human looking out to see a city with one manta flying around

[graceful osprey]

its just a nice fancy arcade game

[pulsar iris]

I feel like orbit has a lot of flow references, I feel like if we look hard enough we’ll find the worm haha

[lethal stump]

i think the reason flow is so divorced from the rest of the "TGC Canon" if you will, is because its just so fundementally different than the others in the roster
like

Cloud - Help clean the planet
Flower - Bring life back to a dying ecosystem
Journey and Sky - bring back light and life to a destroyed kingdom while making friends
Flow - devour your enemies

it just kinda sticks out, yanno ?

[hoary violet]

I mean

flow could be what happens in the wasteland water

[wind bone]

Did u know while you’re in the light (the part where you get reborn) you can tap the glowy bits floating and they do a little explosion away from the tap

[lethal stump]

like, in orbit ?

[wind bone]

I think of eden as storm > orbit > the light

Because that’s the name of the constellation

[lethal stump]

ah The Big Orb

[woven perch]

thats a thing? :O

[graceful osprey]

there aren't many aquatic creatures in sky

[wind bone]

Besides the birds and butterflies there are only aquatic creatures

[hoary violet]

well, all of the creatures that are supposed to be aquatic decided to float around

[graceful osprey]

but they don't live in water

[hoary violet]

and crickets

[pulsar iris]

...what if we’re all in a coma

[graceful osprey]

WHAT CRICKET

[wind bone]

Oh ya the crickets

The sfx you hear at home at night

[hoary violet]

The crickets in home

[woven perch]

you can hear them

[graceful osprey]

oh...

[hoary violet]

You can’t see them, but I doubt they’re underwater

[lament crater]

Where are the crickets hiding

[pulsar iris]

👀

[hoary violet]

then we’d see cricket flavored bubbles

[wind bone]

What if we were the crickets all along...

[woven perch]

theyre very very tiny

or that...

[graceful osprey]

do you think some of the things in sky aren't actually there

for example the crickets

[lament crater]

A skykid chirping cricket noises is sort of endearing to me now haha

[pulsar iris]

Maybe we hear it cause we’re all in a coma and hear crickets outside while we sleep

[graceful osprey]

yes

[hoary violet]

Wait, it’s all crickets? Always has been.

[graceful osprey]

or it could be a dream

so we are just imagining everything

[hoary violet]

What if we’re in a coma and Eden is us dying in our sleep

[pulsar iris]

Collective imaginings by kids

[graceful osprey]

evrything is not real :(

[woven perch]

i mean,,its not impossible,,,,

we are in some sort of loop

[hoary violet]

this is giving me the same vibes as the shelter music video

[pulsar iris]

I think the world of sky is real, but us existing in it isn’t

[graceful osprey]

after dying, we are stuck in a land made of literal dreams

[hoary violet]

I knew a dude that was in a coma for a little over a week and he saw all sorts of weird stuff while he was gone, so I wouldn’t be shocked if that was what skykids are

[pulsar iris]

Like we are real kids with experiences n what not, our consciousness are transferred to another world that actually DID exist, and we’re using borrowed formed to interact with each other and the world

[hoary violet]

INTERESTING

[pulsar iris]

The mega bird needs us by putting us into comas

Our bodies are not real

We are not real

[graceful osprey]

my friend somehow didn't see anything in his coma

[pulsar iris]

we can’t feel pain, or anything. We don’t even show the 7 signs of life

[lament crater]

Way to give skykids an existential crisis--

[pulsar iris]

That’s why I think we’re all trapped in some collective dream

[graceful osprey]

maybe my friend was not close to the other side enough

[hoary violet]

What if we’re all in some kind of matrix type thing and we’re all hooked up to one shared dream

[graceful osprey]

i was thinking

[hoary violet]

and sky is just a substitute for a real world so our brains don’t rot

[pulsar iris]

I mean we can pop in and out of existence with a simple tap of the home button

No one will know were we’ve gone

Mega bird is the one that is connecting us

[lament crater]

Oh I read back and saw that Isle Elder might also be referenced as Charon? Would that mean that the skykids' journey is just them reliving their past, albeit in a symbolic way? I'm pulling on ends here lol

[hoary violet]

Spiritfarer vibes

[wind bone]

🤔

[pulsar iris]

Spirit fear more like it

[wind bone]

I talked about this yesterday a little but it wasn’t centered around that

So basically my thoughts were that we as sky children are a fragmented version of the eden elder (and is why we don’t see them in game in person at all)

And us going through the game is us regaining our memories of our past life and fixing things

[hoary violet]

Broken children running around trying to fix the mess they made

That’s so sad

[graceful osprey]

i'm tired i'm not gonna type unless if I see aomething really interesting

[lament crater]

I always imagined that when skykids basically die, their light goes to build the Eden Elder back up, but of course is torn away for rebirth once more
Idk what myth I referenced for that, I used this concept for my Eden Elder fanfiction

[graceful osprey]

its only 7 pm for me

[hoary violet]

Brb

[pulsar iris]

Please send it To me I love fanfics

[lament crater]

Soon

[hoary violet]

I’m gonna log off now, I hope I contributed to this channel

thanks for talking about this, it was interesting

these were some cool theories

[woven perch]

thank you for sharing your theories too

[lament crater]

Same here, I'm going to go sneep now! This is actually my second time here and everyone's been so welcoming here rather than before

[lethal stump]

#beta-discussion is where that belongs

[urban turret]

Thank you for beating me to delete!!

[cobalt palm]

Anyone up for some speculation on how the Season of Dreams affects the "life's journey" in the levels of Sky?

Apologies for the wall of text in advance, but here goes...

Of all the things in the Season of Dreams, there is one thing I keep coming back to, both ingame, and in thought, which is this new gate in the coliseum at the end of the valley races.

I love how we can make valley into a circuit in game, but what brings me back to it in thought is how it affects the linear "life's journey" throughout the realms in Sky.

Without dreams, after the races finish, we plunge into the wasteland.
However, with dreams there is an opportunity to revisit another of Sky's and lifes paths.

The name Dreams fits too, after one path in life ends, we can choose to dwell on how great that time was and pass into difficult times. But, with a dream, you can choose another path and though different, we can spend more time in the clouds, or citadel, it may be different, but it is more rewarding.

What is more, is that to follow your dreams is not simple or easy, you must have faced some adversity, represented by the wasteland spirit requirement in the constellation gate, and additionally you need to make our way up a long hill and through dark tunnels before you can get back to where you started, like when following your dreams in life.

Valley is the height of civilization for the ancestor spirits in Sky, but it is through the lowest levels of that civilization where some of the greatest opportunities and powerful dreams happen.

The more I think about the area, themes and season in general, the more I discover.

Thanks for reading this wild speculation, and keep Dreaming 💤💭

[hidden scaffold]

what's inside the other door

[true talon]

oblivion

[quiet crystal]

A wind wall I think

[wheat cypress]

I've never been in there

[sinful ridge]

Sort of looks like a Journey Wanderer or something

[supple sluice]

Uh.... I saw the pinned comment and-

Well there goes 90% of the language i use here.

[rigid ember]

Entrance to the village of dreams,if that helps

[wise cloak]

Maybe that door is reserved for a future season?
Like Season of Hope or something

[supple sluice]

Oh!!

I went through that door i think...

When you use one of the uh boat rides in the village it brings you to the coliseum

[rigid ember]

It leads to the village of dremas

[wise cloak]

No, we are referring to the other door

[rigid ember]

Yes,you can enter from the coliseum

[supple sluice]

Oh.

The one on the left, huh?

[rigid ember]

Wich other door?...

[wise cloak]

On the other side

[rigid ember]

In the left?

[supple sluice]

Well, the Hermit valley has yet to be opened...

So maybe it leads there

I doubt there's... 2 villages...

Or maybe that's for the Rich?

[rigid ember]

In the left??

[willow shoal]

what?

[rigid ember]

Uhhh

If it's in the left it leads to inside,where you go meet the elders

[supple sluice]

Ah.

[rigid ember]

I'm curious,does anyone have a guess about what these mean?

[livid valley]

The temples

[rigid ember]

Yeah,okay.

But

Why are there boats?

[livid valley]

I can't remember..damn

[supple sluice]

There's boats to probably get into the temple

[rigid ember]

And jellyfish all over the place?

[supple sluice]

And also boats are general transports

[rigid ember]

Maybe it was before eden?

They're flying boats

[wise cloak]

@rigid ember This Door. Not the one going inside the Temple

[supple sluice]

Yeah, they're a thing in this game

[livid valley]

Boats fly

[rigid ember]

Most likely to ship something,because they have something in there

[supple sluice]

Yep

[rigid ember]

Also,they go all alone?

[supple sluice]

Well

I think they have crews

My memory on the cutscene for the waving Bellmaker is off

[rigid ember]

We can tell that for the boat in Wasteland

[supple sluice]

Yeah...

[livid valley]

The wasteland boat seems to be not transporting anything

The small one

[rigid ember]

Yes

[supple sluice]

To me that just tells me the wasteland boat might be carried by us

[rigid ember]

There are boats all over the realms tho

[supple sluice]

Or enchanted to follow a strict course idk

Yep

[rigid ember]

And

[livid valley]

Boats must be a common transport

[rigid ember]

Do you guys remember the no no emote?

[supple sluice]

There's no other transportation system XD

[rigid ember]

From Isle?

[supple sluice]

Denying guy?

Yeah

[livid valley]

Ok

[rigid ember]

It has that vase thing in the back

[supple sluice]

We don't know what they're rejecting

Oh!

Yeah!

[rigid ember]

That appears in the drawings in the boats

[supple sluice]

Yep

[rigid ember]

I'm not sure why it has that there

[livid valley]

Could be a sign that it needed to be transported

[rigid ember]

Maybe

[supple sluice]

Yeah

[rigid ember]

Question

[supple sluice]

I think the Prairie people shipped light in jars to the forest to be turned into diamonds

[hidden scaffold]

waitnO i mean the left one thats still closed so-

[livid valley]

You mean butterflies

[rigid ember]

Wow,that's an interesting idea!

[supple sluice]

Well-

Light and butterflies yes

[rigid ember]

Can be pure fire

[livid valley]

Well is most likely to be butterflies

[rigid ember]

For sure

[supple sluice]

Which means animal mistreatment is... Sadly a pert of the theorized lore.

[livid valley]

They used creatures to create powrr source

[hidden scaffold]

hey good idea

i think they did the same to mantas as well

[livid valley]

Yep mantas too

[supple sluice]

Yeah

That's the theory

[livid valley]

Manta juicer

[rigid ember]

Tree's leafs are made out of clouds

[supple sluice]

But i don't exactly like the idea of forest being a factory area cus to me it doesn't explain anything in the rest of forest

[rigid ember]

Makes sense for the raining in forest

...because it's a forest full of trees.

[supple sluice]

You'd think the forest would have more factories and mines...

[rigid ember]

Yeah

[supple sluice]

So idk

[rigid ember]

But the crying emote does do mining

[supple sluice]

Yep

[livid valley]

Light miner

[supple sluice]

.... And some caves and such might be mines too idk

[rigid ember]

Now that I think of it

[livid valley]

Forest is a good area for resources

[rigid ember]

The shivering emote is close to a grave like thing

Why would it be?

[supple sluice]

Yeah

.... WAIT WHY IS THERE A TOMBSTONE IN THE MIDDLE OF YOUR ENTRANCE

[rigid ember]

[supple sluice]

I-

FOREST??? YOU GOOD???

[rigid ember]

UHH

[livid valley]

Take a pic

[supple sluice]

Can't plah sky rn

[rigid ember]

how does mama forest has so much power over a hammer and light

[livid valley]

Elder

[rigid ember]

What

Mama forest and forest elder are the same

I just like calling it mama forest hehe

[livid valley]

No no I mean the power

[supple sluice]

Pfff

[rigid ember]

??

o h

i know what u mean now

[livid valley]

I see elders as the minor God's

[supple sluice]

Yep

[livid valley]

Being send down by Megan- wait I mean megabird

[rigid ember]

welp

[supple sluice]

And the Megabird is -

HHHHH

[rigid ember]

Makes sense?

[supple sluice]

It's so much easier to say Megannnnn

[rigid ember]

back to the topic

[livid valley]

Megabird the the Major God only one mind you is the one who creates

[rigid ember]

where was there more writing?

[livid valley]

A irresponsible God at least

[rigid ember]

Sanctuary,Prarie,Forest,Isle,Cave of prophecies...

A lot of places

Is there any writing in Valley?

Writing like drawings

[livid valley]

There is almost no writungs about megabird

Writings

[rigid ember]

[livid valley]

You can only see her at orbit

[rigid ember]

k

[livid valley]

The end credits too

[rigid ember]

Is there in Wasteland?...

Or in Vault

Eden?

[livid valley]

Eden no

[rigid ember]

I don't think there is in the village of dreams?

[livid valley]

Nah

Only in the sky of orbit

[rigid ember]

So eden and village of dreams nlt

[livid valley]

Still a non appearance character still a very important one

[rigid ember]

I don't say about megabirb or whatever it was (srry if it comes out rude)

Just like these

[hushed steeple]

I think theyre saying that theyre not talking about the megabird

[rigid ember]

Yes,I'm talking about drawings like the picture I sent before

[hushed steeple]

:>

[graceful osprey]

i rhink they are bringing the light creatures and maybe chopped down trees to be processed into refined darkstone

[hushed steeple]

J u i c e d

[pseudo heart]

Howdee

[willow shoal]

Lost Eden Castle

[pseudo heart]

Where is that omg

[willow shoal]

Holy land

[rigid ember]

Before orbjt

orbit

[pseudo heart]

No no,, i meant where during ascension

[rigid ember]

Almost at the end

[teal orbit]

wow....

sooo pretty

[teal orbit]

not opening....

[pseudo heart]

ooh that place

AlsO

[teal orbit]

i wanna see...

[pseudo heart]

Every oob-ers dream oooOooooOooOoO

How did u manage to stay in the manta 😭

[teal orbit]

i dont think we know.. do we?

most likely the prince and a skid

[rigid ember]

That's the light part of us,if I would say.

[teal orbit]

oh, also, there is a reason i came here today...

there is a theory i would like to share with you...

or rather... a new piece of canon

[rigid ember]

Ok..

[willow shoal]

I sent many useful images in this channel

you can search them and find sth interesting

[livid valley]

Cheese

[teal orbit]

"Dear Children, no hope was lost,
We saw of your return to us."
and then
Children of light are of new generation
the first quote seems to say skids used to exist before the fall
but the second quote says that skids are new to the world...
which can only mean one thing.... skids are pieces of smth or someone that had a lot of power and influence...
influence enough to know the rhythm troupe (knowing ppl from outside the kingdom)
influence enough to make the elders wait for your return...
you know where im going with this...

[livid valley]

Uhh

What's that

[pseudo heart]

Megabird mmm

[livid valley]

L

[hushed steeple]

Im really warming to the “everything is Prince” theory

[livid valley]

"we saw of your return to us" kinda feels like they have saw us before

[teal orbit]

more like the skids are the prince

[pseudo heart]

As something else..

[willow shoal]

please remove it as it’s datamined

[pseudo heart]

[livid valley]

Could have prove the generations of skid does quite exist

[willow shoal]

it’s against tgc’s code policy

[teal orbit]

but they CANT have cuz we r a new generation... which means they have met our OLD selves... what we used to be, aka imthinking... the prince

[hushed steeple]

“Everything” is hyperbolic. I mean the sky kids, the wing lights, the white one that fell in isle, the one in eden, the ones on the CoP murals ect. Ect. Ect.

[pseudo heart]

Also pyre u can't go around calling ur theories canon u know—

[hushed steeple]

I miss the little dot in the middle.

[livid valley]

He's like the excited guy

[pseudo heart]

Hhh

[teal orbit]

yes yes i think so too
but the winged lights are imprints of the prince prob

[hushed steeple]

Since old megabird still kinda in the game in the form of the flight gauge

[teal orbit]

nono it isnt my theory...
its 2 pieces of canon...

I-

[teal orbit]

haha

[teal orbit]

do i see my new pfp?

[hushed steeple]

Interesting about that picture, it still has runes

The little cyan orbs

[wind bone]

Hey , please read the statement we’ve pinned yesterday! The purpose of the lore channel is to have fun and discuss everyone’s take on the story, not finding out what is or isn’t canon

[hushed steeple]

That used to be in everything

[livid valley]

Will do!

[teal orbit]

sure

[teal orbit]

isnt this from old beta?

[livid valley]

It's more of concept art

[teal orbit]

oh.

[livid valley]

Interesting he has a very.. long chin

[pseudo heart]

The chin became his beard ig

[livid valley]

Ah majic

[pseudo heart]

✨

[hushed steeple]

I feel a little better knowing old man Isle does not seem feeble at all after he gets some light.

[livid valley]

Insert confusion

[willow shoal]

the moon in eden

[hushed steeple]

Ohhh

[willow shoal]

🌙

do you think why we can see it only in eden?

[teal orbit]

png version...

[teal orbit]

its not a real moon prob

[hushed steeple]

I didn’t even look for a moon in eden. Next time though

[willow shoal]

[wind bone]

There’s a moon in wasteland!

[teal orbit]

not scientifically possible

[willow shoal]

so what’s this?

[livid valley]

Moon in wasteland is really bright

[teal orbit]

yeah

[willow shoal]

i haven’t noticed that...

[livid valley]

Light reflecting off the moon irl won't be as that bright so the sun must be very uh

[teal orbit]

ark

[hushed steeple]

Maybe its a planet and has multiple moons?

[wind bone]

The moon is visible in other parts of wasteland as well, just harder

I have some pics of me above the clouds, give me a moment

[livid valley]

Aite

[wind bone]

From the first area of wasteland

[sacred rapids]

I've seen it at shipwreck

[wind bone]

Fun fact, that moon used to be a crescent but they changed it to a full moon