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coughs in LITERALLY MURDERING YOUR SIBLINGS IN HOLLOW KNIGHT AND ALSO KILLING PEOPLE FOR NO REASON
Maybe that is why the king is not around to be saved anymore because we are made of the king
i dont know hollow knight
AH YES THE 50 MILLION SHARDS OF SKIDS THEORY-
Actually not for no reason
getting money by killing is a good reason
Oh that's a thing then
hitman
imagine ur just this dude and then one day ur fifty million honking pyromaniacal children running across empty rolling lands
One of the things at least pertaining to the vague nature of the King, the Prince, and skids
Light™️
Surely we didn't just shatter Frkm the king already in form
Megan took some clay and made us
void^tm
playdolls
which
The clay theory
light, void and clay
these were the ingredients chosen to make the perfect tiny golems
but megan accidentally added an extra ingredient to the concoction
arson
Though if she can interact with the world like-
why not do it herself
when are gods ever direct-
Though if we go by the interpretation where it's done as punishment technically the King brought it all upon himself
Wait what did the king do?
why can’t he get a coffee break in limbo every so often tho megan 😔
Wha-
many things
king got out of limbo
Stuff™️
Pff+Megan attached all the skids together so the king can drink coffee
it depends on how bad his motivations you think he actually has though
It's like there's a spectrum but he's never just firmly a force of good
im gray
Ok more Jelly theories plz...
ok
Depending on who you ask and how you ask the King is either a stone-cold tyrant or a misguided saint
or everything in between
have you made any for jellies yet pyre?
I read the theories and i like the mining theory but imma just go with stasis sparks for the tentacle thing lol
My theory on jellies is that they use their legs to constantly push upward and thus remain floating... cuz sky's atmos is thick and kinda like water but just dense air...
Thats ehy paddling with oars make u move fast in boats lol
they should be also using it pick up food right
Maybe... but we could add that or we wont based on the other theories cuz stasis sparks could just as easily make all the light they need for the jellues lol...
oh hey and for the opening and ending credits... i was thinking smth like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2WH8mHJnhM
no like im serious yknow?
w h a t
;-;
It's okay
... Can we add in a dead stick bug meme
nah the rest will be dead serious
MAKE THE OUTRO RICKROLL
that makes the credits way funnier... usually
I BEG OF YOU
Aren't nat geo docs mostly more charming than serious?
ye... but this is a ripoff
Like... They're voiced by a charming old man and there's cute music
ik....
JRKFKFJF THE VOICE ACTED SHOULD SOUND LIKE THEY'RE DYING
Oh and at the krill episode, someone should get krilled and do the meme where like the cameraman or smthng says hey uhh..someone got krilled
And then the host is like THIS IS NOT ABOUT THEM
well... @supple sluice u need to sak @sacred rapids that...
hhhh
ye.. u need to edit my script... at this point its just a buncha theories linked together....
Pfff
..
I just love to see everyone dying because they got rickrolled :DD
..... Maybe we can record meme.songs in the background
yes
Like imagine a krill chase sequence while coffin dance plays
That kind of thing
Some can be hidden, some don't have to be
ye
MOTH
no songs except intro and outro... cuz we r actually trying to give info.. not make ppl laugh...
Oh ye, as I said a while ago. What if a moth was running around at the background that got spotted by the krill then got krilled
While the host is speaking 'bout krills
I-
... We gotta keep the audience interested XD
that seems promising.. now we need to find a willing moth....
ooooorrrr
I wanna rp as a moth
I-
we could be explaiining how krill hunt and the moth could be the main thing...
like... "when a krill spots its prey" and all that
I don't play Sky much anymore so I volounteer (I forgot how to spell ;-; ) to be krilled
ok then
Oke
buts lets worry abt this in the krill episode, which is still a long way away.... for now, jellies plz....
ok
Jkjk
So what about jelly
and @icy spruce, could u start making the finalized script outta that script i gave u...
yes plz... we r still low on those
I- uh sure I guess-
Helth is welth or smthng
Yeah
dont go to sky memes, radian lol
i shall stay in lore chat forever
me too :DD
Here I am once again
Asking if anyone has an idea about the item behind that statue
its prob a broken altar or temple
The item on the statue’s back?
No no, I think they meant the item in the statue's back
It's prolly Vault elder??? Idk, just kinda looks like them :V
You know that thing behind their back rmeinds me of the halos that appeared when we got new wedge
They are Vault scholar imo
Not Lamed
Oh oh speaking of wedges
Oh ye, or that
Uhm i dunno but the item on it’s back is weird
Mhm gege 
I had a hard time taking a ss pft
no matter how many time i try to land on them...
i brought the lantern then ;-;
if only i brought glow spell as well
Its eyes look creepy tho
dead stare
Somehow sad too
the frame of the orbit reborn gate
I always wanted to know what’s on top
bro how did you even get that-
oh ye
thats so cool
anyway i believe its the core of The Light, like the center of galaxy or soemthing
i really want to know what these guys does
they do deep call when we leave them, just like other jellies
but what i noticed is, these royal jellies didnt actually join the ascend. they are just... rotating on one spot and then goes to the clouds
and then they reappear again
they just goes in and out the clouds
thats wut all stasis sparks do... this happens with mantas with stasis sparks too
ye.. jellies dont migrate...
they arent tru light creatures
formed in clouds
how do i know? i watched them from this spot because i didnt have anything better to do
they are incorporeal creatures that house stasis sparks
formed by teh clouds? arent mantas teh same tho? canon doc stated that every light cretaures jist exist from light
didnt get birthed or need to go through growing phase
ye.. only birds and mantas come outta clouds...
all other creatures are born from light
but who knows where?
plus, its all creatures... even krill and crabs
krill is plural for krill... no one seems to know this lol
lol
Ok..
Ahaha
BTW if there are such things as spirits, does that mean that the memories aka cosmic mantas are the spirits of the mantas?

well... all creatures are born naturally so i doubt the spirit mantas are spirits of mantas...
Also u know the proud stance with the child at Valley? They probably fell off the cliff and became spirits
Cress to my sis
Cress to my sis
Creds to my sis
plus, mantas ascend with their bodies intact, so i doubt the spirit mantas are spirits of mantas...
prob not...
Yeah but if they r not the spirit of them maybe they r the essence
maybe...
Wait wait can we talk about the symbol in our chests—
lol
Ye, spirit mantas are prolly just projections made by the lanterns in Vault
Yall didn't see anything
suree.
thats a diamond....
No no,, squint
Nooo
i dont see it... T.T
Look
o-
oh
It used to be more prominent in beta
its like a USB port from our capes from our bodies to the cape...
Yes that
like a "made in china" kinda thing lol
LMAOOO
but like made in orbit
Oh.. OH
Ye..YE
Yall remember when one of yall's eden got glitched
And the old elder constes in eden appeared
lets go bacc to jellies.. we r entering unholy territory
called "beta"
All the elders got that symbol except Isle ,, even in the elder cutscenes
we need more jelly theories...
Isle elder is always left out hhh

well, i gtg, dm me your jellyfish theories
Man ya'll got in deep with Eden-
lmao
I saw that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvfR3XLXPvw
Guys I think this is how dark crabs were made-
i took one look at that title and you know what- I would like to be crab-
so what I got from this is that crabs are crabs because of evolutionary perks
doesn't that technically go for all species- and what would the crabs have evolved from
O-
that's it we are becoming crab kids
yea... this doesnt seem to be the case for sky....
flexibility? krill are better
speed? krill are better
all-terrain capabilities? krill are better
soooo decarcinisation would be a more common trend in sky...
but given the low biodiversity of sky and the fact that everyone is completely well adapted to their habitats, i doubt such drastic evolutionary feats would happen lol...
plus, carcinisation and decarcinisation are not for skids....
Krills are the future best evil creature you have to watch out for
folks... i still need more jellyfish theories...
and plz start working on your manta theories lol
oh gosh
?
Question, is that statue the 3rd gen skids? I forgot to ask this here...
I think that's 2nd gen
Oh
I think that's 1st gen
if u saw it long enough to take a pic, its 2nd or 3rd gen, but u only see third gen in the very last part or eden.. so thats 2nd gen definitely... tho the shiny one in the very middle is a 4th gen lol
we r wrapping up s1e5 and starting s1e6
(yes we are gonna have a second season that focuses on neutral creatures, and a third season that focuses on dark creatures lol)
Why do the statue have crystals on them?
which gen?
oh
second gen prob has diamonds impailed by the flying diamonds before they got corrupted
and somehow the gen2 skid`s purity kept the impailed diamond shard from corrupting like the others lol, @rugged barn
Oh
ye
I was about to ask why they were blue...
but thats just a theory
a sky theory
You read my mind...
ikr?
Sorry for asking too much questions, my curiosity is pretty high....
that was a question that i asked myself long ago lol
That's what we do in lore chat lmao
oh no feel free to ask as many as you want... i encourage cold pings and lots of questions, including, but not limited to rebuttals of my theories lol
Ok then
I mean- it's specific to the person I think Pyre so it's not a hard never
Actually I want to ask another question but I forgot what the question is
Take your time- tis not like lore chat's going anywhere
ye... tho i may go somewhere.. but ping me and i will reply when i see it lol
Ah I remember now
1st gen : statues that crumbled when we get near the
2nd gen : blue crystal statues
3rd gen : the fallen
4th gen : us


Is there like anything past the crystal thing in eden? I remember getting a recommendation about that in youtube but I didn't really watch it
Also who is the prince and the eden elder?
And by Crystal thing do you mean the Diamond?
the prince is prob the eden elder lol
Yea
The Prince is an elusive character that's been mentioned to be present in the lore
yknow that kid we hug and wait for them to open the ascesnsion gate?
It's commonly accepted that he's the Eden Elder
thats prob the eden elder too
or at least he's Eden Elder as King
The white child?
ye
depends on how you interpret it really-
its just a theory
Have you read the lore moff doc by any chance Eirlu?
Lore Moff Doc (ESSENTIAL, credits to Bricky)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit?usp=sharing
The Canon Lore Doc (can be found in pins)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ZWJRGiJSrIXgDvJ4pST61moZbVB_hBExUjOaF-pmOE/edit?usp=sharing
The Theory Vault (can also be found in pins)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-SOY_5WrhQ2ftVZEM9VMBsz92-n_53kBzQoHKmY2-24/edit?usp=sharing
Sky Leitmotifs
https://docs.google.com/document/d/19p_7mI1bI4fxKBk5ogVJCTsU7hzLJejqBgQTSJDAjuo/edit?usp=sharing
And make sure you check the pins, they are heaven to us theorists. :)
Uh, I only know about the statues...
dang you`re fast

DANGIT ALI BEAT ME TO IT XKDKDKFKDKDO
I usually only went to the #looking-for-group-live
ohhhh
Anyway- we mention the lore moff doc because it's generally a nice place to start when searching for lore material
There's also the pins
Ah ok
Welcome to the lore channel
let me give u a crash course on sky lore as we currently know it lol...
Stuff like the canon lore doc and the theory vault are good reads if you want them
Welcome to the big brain cell juicer family
where you can never escape
oh and a word of caution...
They're addictive, I see
Also the links sent by Ali, can they be pinned so I can read them when I have time
the timeline is w h a ck
Oh they're pinned ye
once you find out why this is related to lore, there is no turning back... everything you see, hear, or experience will seem dark and lore fuel to you...
sky will not be the happy fun dreamland that it used to be... so if you wanna turn back? turn back now...
(plz dont turn back we need more ppl like u here)
There's also mountains of concept art in the pins if that's your thinf
yeahhhhh we get into a lot of dark stuff
no reacting to that mesage lol
you are in for a rude awakening young person
literally tst needs its own separate doc
Excuse me I'm a girl
i wanted to say oh megan but i thought that would cause more confusion lol
oh oop didnt see your profile... lol
imma head to bed- I have too many things that need finishing- nighty night fellas-
I have been pinged
Nighty night @queen locust
Thy shall be cursed by the dark dragons overlord
karen?
Karwn
Hey anyone know what’s the lore behind the krill? Was there some sort of war between them and the skykids?
Skykids, probably not. Hard to tell what is going on with krill. One of the messages suggests they eat our light.
Null, what about the spirit memories we relive? I mean there’s lots of battlement stuff around the krill, so I was wondering if there was some sort of war or something?
Also full yikes on the eat light
Some theories include that they were raised and trained to fight, while others think that ancestors took over their territories
There was likely a battle, but several subscribe to an ancestor v ancestor battle due to having two types of shields pointing different directions and ground based barriers
We currently have no info for or against ancestors raising krill
Oof if ancestors raised the krill and krill turned against them that would be interesting
I always play that part with no sound effects because boy the krill sounds scare the hell out of me
Is there any background on why we die and reincarnate?
thats just megan`s idea of entertainment lol
Whelp 😂
we are currently making one, but only limited to creatures
I’m a writer so I want to know the meanings of everything all the time. The first time I finished the game I CRIED
And yay!!! I’m excited for the book
Oh I sobbed. My husband turned to me and was like “what’s wrong” I’m like “this game!!!!” He was so confused haha
there isnt a lot of sky lore so everything`s short lol
Hey long documents will do haha
hey... the tst is one of the most explored aspects of the game....
wanna hear a few of them?
tst?
two shield theory
I always wanna hear stuff!
wut null was talking abt
Oooooh
Hey hey hey I write a lot. I gotchu. Lay it on me.
here`s one
when the prince opened the ascension beam the elders wanted to go to orbit and go home and the spirits wanted a way to ascend without dying...
and that was the ascension beam...
but several elders were worried that if neutral creatures manipulated and used the light creatures' road to ascension, it would destabilze the network... so they kept it under guard...
but the duds that wanted to go to orbit were persistent and they made an army... they attacked wasteland and wasteland trained krill and fortified its factories... and then they fought...(how the war went is specified in the ver.1.0 and its super long so imma ommit that) then the war reached eden and whether it was an accident or on purpose the beam-emmittor blew up and thats why shards of it r still flying around in eden...
so now the ascension beam could only be opened temporarily by the prince and small er cuz the eimmitor was gone.. so the king went and hid in orbit and the war ended... but vast amounts of resources were exhausted by the war and a lot of the working class was now dead.. so then came famine and disease... the spirits decided this was all the elders` fault and they rebelled and imprisoned the elders in limbo
with no clear leader and very little magical protection with the elders in limbo, the ancestors descended into anarchy and it all went south with all the famine and disease and infighting and so they went extinct... so thats how it all came to be
--> there`s another
I shall not read that
Two different ideologies of how light should be treated: The diamond clan thought light should be used as a power source to create the power diamonds and power new technologies, while the sunburst clan thought light shouldn't be trapped in diamonds and should exist freely and “shine like the sun.”
--> here`s a smaller one
Technology caused more corruption to spread. There was possibly a faction of ancients who wanted to stop the use of technology to keep it from spreading, versus those who wanted to advance society further.
--> we got a bit more here
Golden Wasteland was the second most industrialized realm (first would be Eden) in the sky world and possibly the most militarised one (four out of six spirits are military, and there are soldier statues at the entrance corridor to the broken temple). For it’s potential to be a threat, especially due to its proximity to Eden, the King fills the realm with his statues (there are 9 in total - 2 of them broken in half - not counting the turrets atop the GW temple) as a way to assert his position of leadership over the land. Then the anti-power diamond movement started and, considering the polluted water, it must have been stronger in Wasteland than any other realm.
So the people there start a strike on diamond mass production, threatening the entire line of production, and, when the king sends his men in to end it, the GW spirits are backed by their Elder. There starts the civil war with GW troop’s winning at first, and it ends with the king using his giant diamond to level wasteland (the level of destruction there is comparable only to Eden, and hardly was caused by only men-to-men combat). But by doing so, the king corrupts his giant diamond, leading to the eventual fall of Eden and the spread of darkness to all the other remaining realms.
--> a big one here
the “Nature Realms” and the “Industrial Realms” had a civil war. The Nature Realms are the first 3, the Industrial Realms are the last 3. So after forest makes the diamond, the industrial realms move in and start making many diamonds. The abundance of floating contraptions in the later 3 realms indicate that the industrial realms mass produced the diamonds. The first 3 realms don't have many diamonds, indicating that (even forest) the first 3 realms were nature friendly. Eden was in ruins (and the eden elder who is unsavable (confirmed by devs)) so the nature realms rebelled (because of the 2 shields theory).
The nature realms use boats extensively so it can be assumed the warships are converted trade ships and part of the rebel army. The krill circle the forts which are in wasteland so the krill were probably used in the war by the industrial realms (this is getting harder to type I`m just gonna refer to them as diamonds from now, and the nature realms as suns) so valley is unharmed because it has no military installations, and so the suns move on to wasteland. Warships are made and deployed, so krill are placed at higher altitudes to destroy the warships if they come close to the forts (because the krill circle the forts).
The forgotten ark is probably collateral damage caused by the krill that is still guarding the straits even after the war. Firework staffs are probably weapons because that is the only thing the crew from the shipwreck in wasteland has that even resembles a weapon. Maybe the spirits can make it shoot stronger projectiles… idk. . Barricades and trenches were probably used to siege the forts and provide cover from krill`s blue light. Spears and shields are probably remnants of phalanxes, and since the swords seem to be made for cutting and slicing and not stabbing, the swords were probably not part of the phalanx and probably used to slaughter spearmen in the trenches (because spears are clumsy in small spaces and swords are definitely not) by the time we get to the battlefield part of wasteland the 2 armies seem to have united against some krills gone rogue because we see clumps of mixed symbols at these parts and the end cutscene shows that the krill are loose now….
Of course the carnage could be from close quarter fighting, but given that the vault is unharmed, the 2 factions, diamond and sun probably stopped fighting and made up in the temple in wasteland. Other possibilities include the rogue krill killing the allied armies of diamond and sun, or maybe the rebellion was quashed in the battlefield part of wasteland and had nothing to do with rogue krill. “*all sunburst shields face outwards from the temple, some diamond shields face inwards<{Maelstrom#5212}” could mean the suns had taken control of the temple and were trying to stop it from being retaken by the diamonds. Or we could look at this the other way around. The diamonds could have been the natural realms trying to get access to more diamonds, and the industrial realms trying to keep the diamonds to themselves.
--> and a huge one i made a while ago
@queen locust if u wanted to make a tst only doc, here`s your chance lol... i put together all the TSTs lol
Oh boy I read through the previous thread and this one and oh lord this is FANTASTIC
This would make a really good TV show or a book series, exploring the past of elders. Maybe we can follow skykid protagonist as they discover the past and “free” elder souls from guilt of destroying the realms and causing so much pain
one at the top and one at the bottom
I think the whole war between nations but is so entertains because it is so sad
I mean you can tell that GW used to be so beautiful but it looks so bad now with all the krill roaming around
And the bit about Eden being one of those realms? Boy I felt that
your definition of entertainment greatly differs from mine but i get it lol i enjoy sad stories too
oh dungeonmaster... u got any theories on jellyfish?
Oh I enjoy stuff with sad undertones, I mean I can’t run away from it since I started writing. All stories I write have happy-sad endings haha
I have theories about all animals we see: birds/jellies/mantas
pog
I think, especially now having your perspective, that all of the animals that shine and provide us with light are also souls. They are ancestors too but “lesser”. The ancestors we see and interact with are the distinguished one, they have something that is important, a role or maybe a say in the past society that is vital to the future. But we need help from all of our ancestors, right? So that’s where jellies and birds and mantas come in. They are our past but they come in the form of animals. Maybe birds are the ancestors that were the most free, enjoying the relaxation and freedom of flight. Mantas are the ones who are the calmest and wisest. Jelly fish are the ones who had the most fun and expresssion and life in them
Sort of like a Lithuanian theory that all of our souls reincarnate into animals, so the ancestors who are “lesser” or haven’t deserved true ascension yet, instead become animals that give off light
Idk, any thoughts?
oh.... yea.... ok.... good theory...
but-
I-
nvm
your theory was great
even tho i dont subscribe to it
uh oh... am i becoming chesca?
What do you subscribe to?
I jump theories and prefer ones with an evil Megabird
Who’s the mega bird?
What if coming back as an animal isn't about being lesser, but more about wanting to help but not having a strong memory to relive?
w h a t
The megabird is a godlike being that shows up in concepts and thenend credits
Null, I agree with that actually!
ancestors dont come back as animals tho... they have separate roads of ascension....
yes
They strip souls of memory and send them back
^yeah
Pyre, being animals would likely be post ascention
._.
oh and spirits dont come back except as ts.. lol (confirmed)
Another possible variation of that theory would be that ANIMALS have souls. So if they do, in the world of sky theoretically they could also give off light, that is if they ascend as well.
Pyre
Don't say confirmed unless you can back it
Also that's seasonal spirits that come back as ts
I kinda feel dumb now
Why, Limbo?
it was somewhere in the canon doc or smth...
they said once u save spirits u cant bring them back.. except for ts lol...
Pyre
Oh no, why Limbo?
I think you misinterpreted the ts system as lore for all spirits
I mean look at all these theories
My brain could never
no like i remember seeing that quote....
Oh, this is normal.
I mean, this is the brain juicer chat
ye
Where theories will drain ya'll brain juice-cells----ye
sometimes u just need to ask the right question and it will click...
Limbo, a lot of our theories build on eachother. Few of us are smart enough to make the whole things ourselves
ye
Pyre, I still think you misinterpreted a description of the seasonal spirits as TS
I just want some official lore. Like I want a whole book on the lore of the world and I want a comic book, and all other stuff.
official.... lore?
Sorry Dungeon. We have the official lore doc, but TGC gives us but crumbs
And yes Limbo, we’re all coming with this stuff together no one does all by themselves
Null, sad sad day 😦
Then i'm playing the spactator role in this 
- canon lore doc at a distance *
Eh, the lore is more fun for it
Where is this canon doc?
Yeah, I know lore is just for fun but I just can’t shut my damn brain off. I’m like story story story give me story story
We have had some wild theories rip through here. My favorite was that one I came up with where the megabird had mind control
Oof
I just like my theory of the trials being an illusion
It all started with "we don't know if the talk at the beginning of the game is true cause it's clearly someone telling us Some thing. They could be lying or just wrong"
So any idea who is talking at the beginning?
Some theories
Megan prolly
ye
Oh thank you
the pins have all the messages you need
Okay I’m having a field day with that official document
But I still want more haha
I- ok-
I have... A non lore question. How did Limbo put two
reactions on my post
Sorry!! It’s just so interesting haha
well, the beauty of sky lore is that there’s very little canon
we’re meant to take the little stuff we’re given and just run with that
as well as make up our own stuff !
for example, i’m working on developing a hard magic system for sky using the hints and tidbits we’ve been granted in-game
^are you developing that for D&D? Cuz 👀
nah, for my fanfics
Awww man
I-
Chelsea, you okay friend?
Who in Megan is Chelsea
I meant Chesca but my weird phone fixed it wrong 😑
I think dungeon master meant you, Chesca
It happens to the best of us. Get more brain juice and come back with brainy ideas!
Cuz I wanna hear them
HEAR THEM ALL
I-
hi
there's a theory vault doc where most of our theories are kept in.
There's a lot more interesting ones here though, just waiting to be found.
Hot take:Megan controlled every creature,both light and dark
Of course until the king was sent down and messed everything up
(That's my 1 hour of watching hollow knight videos and comments-)
sky /= hollow knight
I know BUT EVERY THEORY CAN BE POSSIBLE
Chat is sneeping rn
side note: imo the prince would not be there when the skater performs for the colisseum; rather the twins are very much involved in the process. the prince may be the monarch but elders rule over their realms and i believe with a large autonomy. (and besides, how did the skater know one of the colisseum’s entertainment is performance?)
Please i would love to see valley twins interacted with the young skater pleasepleasepleaseeee
Hot take : Megan send us on sky world to tell the elders a very important message
But that message cant be delivered because megan didnt give us ability to talk-
also assuming floofy elder’s statue is there bc they rule over lower classes, did they like it or hate it? did they secretely scorn over the lower class folks or did they genuinely love their job and the humble life under there?
Thank you for giving me more idea for my sky story
h what r u gonna do
like “look at these lower folks, going on for their lives. i feel a sort of resentment, how dare they could go as humans but i need to shoulder the responsibilities”?
(but still oh floofy elder, if only they rly love their ppl... to rule over a humble life loving its peacefulness and that courteous kneel at the skykid in valley cutscene ... i love that twin so much.)
Or they would act that tjey ahter their job bit deep down they actually care
Tsundere mushroom hair 
I love both twins, but i always feel mushroom elder need more love, people seems to like asparagus hair more than them :<
skater: looks at the coliseum longingly
mushroom elder observing their ambition wanting them to go big and make the village proud: superb funky u little human
mushroom elder want them to go big for 2 reasons: 1) to make the village proud and 2) to get back at their bro
to this day its still a mystery whether elders can legit interact with citizens or they secretly influence and make their existence ambiguous like irl
I mean.. GW elder fought along side the other soldiers..
Are the lore PDf in the pins?
not pdf, google doc
Also this mural (in the sanctuary islands' jellyfish cave) is interesting
It seems to suggest that the wl elder attacked the prince (at least to me)
it’s a bug
Yeah my bad, but you got what I mean
And the other ancestors seem to have complete knowledge of what the elders do,,, like the
emote
Is it? How do you know that?
it’s the same assets as the prophecy murals, but cut up
my best guess is that it’s a bugged asset file
however i highly doubt it’s actually lore related
It's been there for a while so its persistence is really something..
it’s likely low-priority
Anyways I have to sneep,, goodnighty night lore chat!
Don't tell anyone but I love falling asneep to the sound of rain in Hidden Forest, it's peaceful out there! 
They literally fixed the whole sanctuary pre-prophecy and still somehow left that asset there
rlly makes u wonder
The fates have spoken
That sky bot coming out of nowhere never gets old
The fates have spoken that I will be broke by the end of the year
aIGHT,, sleep
Goodnightttt
prophecy has passed so i guess i can divulge this
that « mural » only showed up in live when beta testing for prophecy started, as well as showing up in beta
iirc, the assets in the « mural » showed up as their corresponding assets in the prophecy murals appeared as well (well, appeared in the files, anyways)
additionally, if they were lore/canon, why would the devs just. leave a mural entirely unmentioned ? every other mural in game has some sort of obvious trigger, or cutscene, etc., but this one doesn’t. it just doesn’t make sense to be anything more than a bug
Wait, is the season of prophecy over?!
no
but it’s come to live, so i decided to mention my beta tidbits
I mean it may have been a bug in sanctuary but what do u think is the rest of the mural 
it’s probably just an asset file
AAA SLEEP
so i think the only other bits on it are like, maybe some manta or boat assets ? something like that
but also Boop i just read your comment and all i can say is

Hold up imma sleep see u guys in the morning 😭
have a good sneep
i think,,,, they probably drowned in the flood?
maybe some of them couldve made it out alive but its very unlikely
D:
yeah maybe,,, they all probably died in the flood, but maybe something happened after the tragedy and some other lower class ppl helped remodel/fix the village, thus dream season and skater kid come to fruition
second gen lower class stuffs
beta?-
the village’s name is in beta
ooooohh
ohhh
i was abt to ask do u mean the village in dream season or the actual name-
thats good
[pronounces it in my head as “beeta”]
👀
I'm wondering about how in the concept art tjr king looks like it's just the prince but on top on some steps
I'd make sense to me 😭
I mean just look at the concept art
The king looks like it has the prince inside of it
prince looks like hes asking if u got games on ya phone
Prince looks very cute
I imagine him as a kid who's too innocent for the harsh world
I have a fanfic about the prince written in my head
Gotta write it down
prince looks like hes amazed the whole week bc he saw a goldfish fir the first time
JSJSJSJ yesss
PRINCE LOOKS LIKE HE'D BE EXCITED BY JUST ABOUT ANYTHING
"wow thats so poggers"
theyre too dumb to evolve
That's... Actually a pretty valid question
Where did this prince and king come from? I missed that in game completely haha
imagine if the whale had like,these tiny wings that could lift it up,,,,,like a b e e
samee
the prince/king are hinted at, but we never see them animated in game (mostly)
arguably the kid in stargazer’s memory could be the prince, but it’s up for discussion as are all things
JAJAJAJA i love that omg
Hey my dudes, does anyone have any info on the time stasis theory in sky? I am having Thoughts and I want to see if this lines up with anyone else is thinking
Awesome ty!!
i wanna come up w theories but i cannot think 😩 💔
she does care
it’s basically the equivalent of a godly timeout bc of how bad the CoL acted
I saw the tst pop up again
And i like the dialogue between the Prairie elder and prince lmao
I have similar thoughts, but I was wondering if the time stasis wasn’t created by Megan as punishment but by the elders. We can assume that the fall of Eden was pretty quick and devastating, and the storms could have spread very rapidly. So the remaining elders put themselves in the dream sleep/time stasis to save the realms from being consumed. Megabird could have also done this so us skids could do what we can, but she seems very removed from all of this up until we are created.
wdym by that??how bad col act??🤔
Things like home are def Megabird’s creation, since it’s made specifically for us
I mean the vault murals make us think the elders used to hang out with the ancestors
in my theory, the CoL is the prince/king/eden elder/us
it’s
complicated
So the fact that they're now isolated does make sense
Weren’t the elders the leaders of the ancestors?
Oh my god I just read the skykid = king theory and I LOVE IT HOLLY
Yeah
oooohhh
I don't exactly agree with it, imo the king probably had to exist with the rest of the elders and ancestors
bai baiii
That’s the type of stuff I live for
Byeeee
Give me all the dark theories folks
I like when things go creeeep

Cuz if the king died during, say, the Stargazer's time then surely more memories would be depressing
Though that is assuming everyone died essentially simultaneously
Hey dungeon master, we had a sort of joke discussion talking about how the spirits died right after the memories we see
If you're interested haha
Who’s this Megan?
Also, Radian jokes are great too!!
Ooooh that’s short for megabird
Megan is the mega bird in the credits
Theres a giant bird that I missed?!
i need to look at the credits more closely next time i reborn lol,i think i missed megan completely jaja
And so is the prince and the king they're only in more older versions of the game
She's so pretty ;u;
Yeah
What's up with the candle at the end tho
Someone suggested candles are full on universes
Radian the king and prince used to be in game? In older versions?
Oh sorry I thought you meant they were haha
So what happened to Sky to cause it to be like that?
Are there any theories where all the peeps went?
Hmmm
death
To me i think a combo of civil war (or war in general) and people not worshipping their elders but tbh after a good rebuttal idk
Oh! The king is sorta shown in the vault murals
The.... Eden mural
But anywhere else?
Nowhere
Which is weird for royalty
Like... You'd think the king would be everywhere if he'd making a castle on top of a mountain you can see everywhere
theres a mural in eden????
Oof
Yeah, that's actually everywhere i think
When your flame is out you can't light up candles?
..... Maybe I'll stand in the rain to see what happens to my candle lol
For science
I know people here talked about a war between technology and people, and I was wandering what do you think caused so many buildings in GW look like that? I mean, they are destroyed, fractured. None of the societies seem advanced enough to have a weapon like that so I wonder if they possessed some earth shattering powers
you can test that in eden too,take out your candle when you have no light,basically useless
probably a really bad war broke out??
I mean to me krills just bonked the buildings hard
Especially in the areas with krills
That and the war
There is an actual trebuchet that works lmao
i dont think ive seen that
Oooh you’re right they do have turrets. The maybe the advancement of technology is what eventually lead to the downfall of that society
You can use it to yeet friends
ooooohhhh thsat
Hahaha nooooo
That's the word i was looking for
More like KRILLTAPULT
death thrower
More like endfriendshipapult
block-a-pult
And that, my friends, is WHY Sky ended 😂
Too much using the blocakpultw
There should be a Sky RPG. If there isn’t one I’m gonna make it.
This lore and the stuff you guys added to it is SO interesting
yeeee
I mean, what if shy dnd?
Sky dnd during war
Boop giving me ALL the wrong ideas
or are they the right ones
the mid ones
I’m just kidding kidding
gfjdfdfdjgjdhg
I play loads of dnd so everything is dnd to me haha
But the way this world is developed and the way it allows players to add more to the lore is so interesting
It’s just such a great opportunity for more things to develop!
Comic books, concept art books, a regular book
It has a very avatar last air bender feel for me
^have you ever seen The Dark Crystal?
aside from some flame kids spamming ur last moments
Boop watch Dark Crystal...the show and the movie. You’ll know how it feels haha
Okay so i did the experiment.... The candle doesn't change
Skdkfjf so i just stood in the rain for a while and even when I'm almost dead the candle is a-okay
Sorry for the image spam
Radian the candle only changes in Eden
I guess you just have to get to that point haha
I could run a secondary dnd campaign themed to Sky...if there was interest 😂
Yeah, i think that's cuz no matter how much wl you lose you still have a light to fuel it
as long as your lit, the candle lives
Which tbh doesn't help with the lore but is interesting
if not, it dies
Hi
Hi limbo
hellooooo
Hello Limbo, welcome back
How are the elders you hold hostage?

Yes i'm back
With even more questions😂
Pfff
I'm feeding them krills
Hi hi
Is there any theory on how the elders fell from the orbit in the first place?
Hold on the elders fell? I thought it was just the skykids
tripped on a banana peel lol
Yeah, orbit is home
Sad we can't stay.... And be with the fam
But we gotta go die ALLOVER AGAIN
It's in the intro of the game
"Together our light was infinite"
THANKS, MEGAN
So why do we reincarnate then? I mean besides continuing on a game
It’s all Megan’s fault
owo ?
To save the children of lost light in the point of no return imo
Cuz they need to be brought back to Orbit too ;u;
yes
Yeah
punishment for causing the destruction of the kingdom as the king
Oh it’s that king theory
Cuz i guess in a past life we slapped a child
im confused, whatd the king do???
Or it's simply just to get red candles 
oh
Yeah, cuz of corruption or stubbornness or... Something
So wait how did the king cause the explosion?
Or, like i said.... Slapping a child
Like if I’m king I wanna know what I did 👀
👀
It's like those stories about how if you did bad you'll reincarnate into something bad
King did a bad and can now eternally experience elementary and middle school
someone did an oopsie so now they get into the loop of death smh 🙄
Yepp
And now we can experience 5739 minutes of cutscenes in vault over and over again
So red diamond is just a big energy thing?
Or a nexus point to get back into orbit as Pyre suggested
Man king sucks
Awww who’s an angy diamond
diamond didnt get the correct lego set so they caused a entire species to go extinct 😩
The eden diamond must have gotten no response to their love confession to be that angy 🍵
PFFF
I was thinking forest elder for some reason
Shouldn't there be a queen? XD
Yea
Where did the prince come from then...
Pfff maybe the king just told the diamond "now do your homework and help us get home"
And the diamond in response killed everyone
some people see the prince as just the king but as a child
Hmm makes sense
king got lonely and decided he wanted someone to play soccer w
He should have just visited valley then
additionally, remember that even though the « Prince » and « King » have masculine titles, they don’t really have genders
technically you could call them the « Princess » or « Queen » and they’d still have the same role in the story tbh
well, a monarch for certain
I see
that just gave me a headcanon idea snsnsjsj
imagine if the prince/king had monarch butterfly wings 
ye, they go all the way across north america
Yet the game is relying on moths
well, moths have evolved to follow the moonlight wayyyy before electricity/lightbulbs where invented soooo,,,,
i thonk moths r pog, pretty too uwu
Moths back then : 
Moths now : 
Does anyone has a better quality pic of of this
Oh Be that picture is real helpful!
it isn’t canon, remember that
here’s the one i was able to find
BE AWARE THIS IS NOT THE CANON TIMELINE
credits to @/Goober#8171
@mortal gulch hère you are
it was also made before prophecy so like, be wary
So my friend found this in Valley and OUO does anyone know what this could mean it looks like a giant frozen dead bird???
cleans throat
that's a reference to old beta, aka light awaits! there was a quest with that bird
OHHH
Oooh
whenever we call
and a candle is within the radius of it,
it gets a rainbow halo
maybe its just the light
It's not only when we call
nvm ignore me lol
And yeah it's probably just the light
But while we are on the subject of calling...
yes
In the tutorial at the beginning of the prairie, the game tells you that it makes your own light resonate with something
And shows you the way
with something?
I can't remember the exact thing
But it says something like your light is pulling you there
It's as if Eden, or the elders in the temples call the skykids
I mean, that brings us to the whole mess of the purpose of the skids
And the theory that they might be fragments of the king
The stargazer?
yes
Who watches a kid fall from the sky?
Yeah, we just fall from the sky
Yeah
Look
we are stars tho
Yeah
In the memory you see a blue Star falling
The spirit rushing to it while calling someone else
And when they get close, you realise that the star is a capeless child
oh i thought that was the marker to where the next memory would be lmao
we are stars
we are made from the light
Are we sure about that though?
Because I thought that the stars were the spirits
And elders
True
and our capes have light that can charge and decrease based on our light
so our light technically is our cape imo
But I wonder if skykids produce their own light
Or if they are like the moon, only able to have light because of a star
Which would be the shiny bois
spirits and elders dont
we are dark forms that use the light to cover up what we actually are
in sky light awaits,
we were dark children almost lifeless until we harvested the wl
We reflect the light, we don't produce it
yeah
WELL THEN WHY ARE WE ARGUING WE'RE MAKING THE SAME POINT
in eden we get the actual light
Yeah
so thats why
Also about stones holding energy
The Light Miner’s memory still messes me up to this day
light miner?
A skykid's light and warmth seems to be located in their chest in a small stone
which realm
The crying one of the forest
I got too carried away writing a rather...graphic description of it
someone brought it up
that is when we see that darkness plants harm spirits
worried about linking this but: #general-sky-discussion message
Darkness can grow on weakened light
I’m paranoid now
exactly, like when we call and then the darkness plants fizzle
and when the explosion happened, random capeless skykids around the realms became remembered as wl
I’m thinking about that Bohemian Rhapsody thing about the memory I made
I personally love the theory of the king shards







