#lore-discussion-spoilers

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pallid solstice
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There's the big bird

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The Phoenix I assume

lethal stump
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especially since the credits likely depict the only canon scene of Megabird

fallen epoch
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Well, that means there is lore scenes in them right? but credits themselves aren't lore.

neon plover
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i didnt realize that was supposed to be a bird

pallid solstice
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Isn't the Megabird a Phoenix?

fast jasper
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star birb

fallen epoch
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If they are, you're telling me that at the end of every rebirth cycle, the skykid sees a bunch of names floating in the sky as stars

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That wouldn't make sense at all!

pallid solstice
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It'd make sense, assky kids are mede of lights and they reborn

lethal stump
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im not saying the credit-credits are lore
i don’t think names are legit floating through the sky
however, i do think it’s odd that we get to see the entire galaxy but no sign of the kingdom we were playing through

neon plover
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our kid also sees the buttons on the screen lol

fallen epoch
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But you glitched the game to see outside the credit scene?

pallid solstice
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No ahah obviously credits have lire like in the background

lethal stump
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what ? no i didnt

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i already told you i didn’t

fallen epoch
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I'm confused here

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X/

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Did you take a photo?

pallid solstice
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I don't think the creators name mean anything as for lore eheh

lethal stump
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listen
i was saying
while watching the credits
the camera zooms out
we see orbit
but there isn’t anything below it
no sign of the kingdom

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does that make sense

short owl
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Of course we don't see it. We're looking the other way.

fallen epoch
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...But it is a credit scene. Does it need to show the kingdom to improve the lore of the credits?

short owl
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If we were looking towards the kingdom, we would be zooming in

fallen epoch
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I mean, you could ask TGC to put the kingdom in if it makes you feel better

lethal stump
short owl
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Instead we are looking towards the one kicking us out, abandoning us to a cold dark world and... Wait why don't other planets have signs of lil kingdoms?

pallid solstice
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The reason why we don't see the kingdom is because the credits are form a point of view where the sky kid would be looking upwards

pallid solstice
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The Megabird can be seen in orbit too

short owl
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Why would stars only fall onto OUR planet and not any of the others?

fallen epoch
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Listen, the only thing important in a credit scene is all the people who supported or worked on the game. We got some pretty stars and a tad bit of lore at the end, It doesn't need anything else. it's all visuals

short owl
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Unless... Maybe stars always fall away from Megan?

pallid solstice
lethal stump
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why does one bit of the credits get to be lore related (megan) but a different part doesn’t (lack of kingdom ?) omitting meta ofc

pallid solstice
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Nothing too big but they do have them

fallen epoch
lethal stump
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it sounds like you’re cherry-picking for no real reason, Bugkid

fallen epoch
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Huh who what now?

pallid solstice
lethal stump
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we agree that meta doesn’t count as lore (the names floating in the sky)
we also agree the megabird scene counts as lore
but why does the whole sequence not count as lore to you ? except for some arbitrary reason related to meta that we have already agreed isn’t lore-related ?

fallen epoch
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Listen, let's talk about Captain America: The Winter Soldier. They gave us an ending thingy after the credits. But the backdrop itself is not lore related. There doesn't have to be a reason why the backdrop of the credits is America. They did what they wanted to do to make it pretty

pallid solstice
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Maybe it's simply a technical question?

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Like too much to load so they choose to only show the Megabird?

soft hamlet
short owl
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Other planets exist. Forget our kingdom, are there kingdoms on all planets? Did falling only happen a certain distance from Megan?

lethal stump
pallid solstice
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I think as you reborn, seeing what you are leaving is more important than what you are going back to

lethal stump
short owl
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Also we are kept from seeing the kingdom when we enter orbit

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...

soft hamlet
short owl
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Either nothing or something huge is important about what the kingdom looks like from above

pallid solstice
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I really think that's because it would be too much for devices to handle

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But maybe they do form something?

short owl
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Possibility 1: the devs don't want to define too much so it is easier to add new areas without worrying about space

pallid solstice
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That would be a good explanation too eheh

short owl
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Possibility 2: there is an actual map defined for the kingdom and knowing it is something that would explain something early

lethal stump
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sorry for thé laugh emote, slippy fingers

pallid solstice
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Maybe Eden related?

short owl
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Also possible

pallid solstice
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That's the more misterius realm as it doesn't have any spirits

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Expept for maybe the king

short owl
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What if our planet is in a black hole?

pallid solstice
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But we don't actually have it in the game

short owl
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And we can't look back because we can see nothing if we did

fallen epoch
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Now, I want to hear what Bricky thinks! I respect his thought and opinion. Bricky, what were you thinking as to why you can't see the kingdom in the credits?

lethal stump
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if it was a black hole, we wouldn’t be able to leave at all

short owl
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Xrays can leave a black hole. And they are finding other ways for light and info to escape as well

lethal stump
hushed steeple
fallen epoch
hushed steeple
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The black whole would be like

Sssshhhhlllllluurrrrppppp

lethal stump
hushed steeple
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...o.o

short owl
fallen epoch
hushed steeple
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Don't black holes like, rip things apart while sucking things in

lethal stump
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it’s theorized they do

hushed steeple
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Then again black holes probably do a lot of things

Like maybe they're also forms of transportation

short owl
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... I can't make tons of arguments for any of my claims when we have only little bits of info

hushed steeple
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I hope.... I hope they're forms of transportation and not death

short owl
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Plus I am in brainstorm mode

lethal stump
hushed steeple
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u h

uneven grotto
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@lethal stump
Aren't those the locations distributed by the Prince, but not according to how they're meant?

fallen epoch
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Well, I'm just enjoying the ride, but If I get you angry I'll leave

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Later, friends!

uneven grotto
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The four elements

lethal stump
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what about them ?

uneven grotto
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Didn't the prince allocate three of them wrongly, which threw Valley, Forest and GW into chaos?

lethal stump
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what ?

short owl
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That's part of a theory

hushed steeple
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That's a theory pretty sure

short owl
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I think from one of the butters?

uneven grotto
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Forest wasn't supposed to get water element, Etc.

hushed steeple
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b u t t e r

lethal stump
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honestly i think the elements that correspond to the realms and elders are rather fitting

echo reef
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Do you guys know the lore for each season?SkyShrug

lethal stump
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doesn’t seem to me like anything was misplaced, but maybe i’m just weird

lethal stump
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@echo reef it’s mostly up to you to make up SkyDance

unkempt arch
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Eden = black hole

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The stormy areas outside stormlock is the accretion disk stickerHAHA

uneven grotto
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Water trial is the virtue of patience.
Earth was the virtue of, what, determination? Right?
Air was Balance?
Fire was...oh man. I gotta go do the trials again. Lol

short owl
pastel brookBOT
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i better not prophe-see any spoilers here pSquint

uneven grotto
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@pastel brook spoiler happy zone, buddy. ;)

hushed steeple
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I see it as

Water - Patience
Earth - Determination
Air - Progress
Fire - Bravery

unkempt arch
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How would people suffering from Scotophobia play Fire trial? stickerShock stickerShock

hushed steeple
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Well, I think people with scotophobia can still play a game with dark environments in it, unless their phobia is severe. If it's that severe, I hope they seek treatment because that's unfortunate.

hushed steeple
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Indeed, but they still have their own themes

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They do have to do a lot with patience though

unkempt arch
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Every trial is Platformer game from the 90s but in 3D

hushed steeple
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Lmao

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I love that

heady burrow
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they’re all more like “trial of how far this game can push me before i throw my phone at the nearest cloud”

uneven grotto
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Yeah... we're short one trial: the trial of knowledge.
Your Skid sits down and takes a linguistics and history exam in game.....

lethal stump
# hushed steeple How so

prairie & earth go hand-in-hand, the whole realm is agricultural, and we see the earth element being used to make the land more plentiful & fertile
forest & water connection is a bit less strong, but basically the rain means you need timing regarding when you go out, when you charge, etc., as well as the forest elder clearly demonstrating a lack of patience (showing the elders have lost their virtues)
valley & air is pretty clear, everything is floating and the winds are strong. additionally, balance is a big theme since there’s the twins, which archetypally balance each other out (think jock & nerd twins)
gw & fire is also pretty clear, what with bravery and war and the like

that’s how i see it anyways

uneven grotto
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PURPLE ELEMENT

lethal stump
hushed steeple
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@lethal stump I see. Makes sense

hushed steeple
short owl
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Ok but what's the counter wisdom for knowledge?

unkempt arch
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I think krills were defensive machinery of the kingdom

heady burrow
hushed steeple
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I just realized that I've eaten nothing today brb

lethal stump
short owl
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That's not a useful counter wisdom though

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I have counters for all active wisdoms. Hold on

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Here

uneven grotto
heady burrow
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moth is a very useful counter wisdom to knowledge though. Can’t be scared of the dragons if you don’t know what they do

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/j

uneven grotto
kind musk
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The mural was there for many MUCH time before the spirit memory but, anyway, pEyes

hushed steeple
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@kind musk also good observation

kind musk
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Thanks stickerHeart

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Well, any thoughts on the pic i sent above? Just to went back in lore pPopcorn

keen moat
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@dry crypt sorry to ping you, but for a subjective answer I like to think the red light symbolizes corruption. in my mind it's similar to the red crystals found in eden. after all, the red light is found "where darkness prevails"

dry crypt
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Ooooh, got it! That makes a lot of sense actually, haha!

kind musk
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DEAD

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CHAT

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AS HOWEVER

keen moat
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for your picture above I'd like to quote master Oogway: there are no accidents pEyes

desert sun
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whereas only one star fell in the memory, which was the (presumed) child of light/kid that did the trials (probably lol)

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so either both are the same event, or they are two different instances

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either way pFIRE

livid valley
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dosent look the same

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the mural is like praising

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while the spirit one is just confused

fallen epoch
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Wuz going on now?

hushed steeple
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Hey fellow Loresters!

fallen epoch
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Yo

heady sequoia
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hi, it's been months since I've checked this chat

hushed steeple
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Hello

rapid juniper
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Hello

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Loa

teal orbit
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sooooo

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coincidence... it is not

kind musk
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Why show them 2 times?

teal orbit
teal orbit
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opening cutscene is megan or the prince explaining it to us

teal orbit
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see.... the opening cutscene was made specifically for skids but murals r like historybooks left by spirits a looooooong time ago...

kind musk
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Megan isn't is confirmed, as it can be vault (or any) elder

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You can see it in orbit, ik, but it can be any bird, as it can be megan

teal orbit
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and it could be any elder or it could be a game mech but my point is that the opening cutscene is directed at us while the murals r like cave paintings.... think of the opening cutscene as a school history class/book and think of the murals as those ancient history books kept in museums...

kind musk
teal orbit
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so stuff in the opening cutscene is very likely to exist in the murals too

kind musk
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So many things in other's theories can be nonsense in the non confirmed theories

teal orbit
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well.. some theories directly contradict the more recent updates or unknowingly contradict small non-game mech in game details... so the actual number of valid theories these days are very few...

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but all theories r welcome

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but

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🧂

kind musk
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I mean is ok if you think that the things in sky are in that way but is like you're talking so VIOLENT SkyLOL

teal orbit
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huh?

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violent?

kind musk
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Like confirming your theories i mean

teal orbit
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oh yea they say i sound like that....

kind musk
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Hehe, take it nice bro/sis, just relax a bit okay?

hushed steeple
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They might not be a bro or sis btw

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I mean idk but

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Some people don't identify with those two labels

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Also I don't see how the way pyre is talking is "violent"? I'm confused

teal orbit
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@kind musk is just saying i make theories sound like canon

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i rlly try not to tho...

hushed steeple
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I see

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I don't really see the problem. It's just how you talk. I think it's fine as long as you confirm that you're not trying to say any theory or whatever is canon imo.

teal orbit
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@hushed steeple, if u r a goth skid, how do u do cosmetics? im curious lol

hushed steeple
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I just do mostly all black clothing. I mainly wear that cobweb cape.

teal orbit
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ohhhhhhhh

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do you wear the eye slash tear mask too?

hushed steeple
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Yes

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Sonetimes I change it up tho when bored

teal orbit
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coool

hushed steeple
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Yeee

teal orbit
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DID YOU KNOW:
chibis are able to swim up to 2 times faster than normal ppl?

hushed steeple
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"NORMAL PEOPLE" LMAOOOO

teal orbit
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well... default size IS normal...

hushed steeple
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Nah I get what your mean it's just worded funny lol

hasty smelt
hushed steeple
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That's very possible

teal orbit
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huh...

queen locust
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Man I kinda regret scrolling up- also good morning ya'll

teal orbit
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we r sure it willl be in the prolitariat sector right?

north vessel
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is that the flying or sliding race

teal orbit
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both

queen locust
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Either way- that's where both races meet

hushed steeple
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I poorly edited this

teal orbit
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there... are windows... on all sides....

hasty smelt
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true dat

pseudo heart
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Good morn SkyFaint

hushed steeple
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Good eveni

pseudo heart
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Still processing the fact that DH event is long since gone SkyFaint

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Anyways.. new season discussions? pEyes

hasty smelt
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I think the village would be near to the spot i pointed out because we can't actually see the temple from the teaser shot (just the arena) and the crack in the arena wall is in the same place

pseudo heart
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Crack? pEyes pEyes pEyes pEyes

hasty smelt
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unless i missed a discussion about it being in an entire other spot pThink

pseudo heart
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Hold up I'm running to valley rn

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I haven't CR there yet either so perfectpFIRE

hasty smelt
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like the little nick in the wall

teal orbit
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huh....

hasty smelt
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hold on lemme just screenshot

teal orbit
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but we all agree the villiage ppl r the prolitariat right?

hasty smelt
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Prolitariat?

pseudo heart
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The three windows also line up I—

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BRUH

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Lend me ur eyes pEyes pEyes pEyes pEyes pEyes pEyes

hasty smelt
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so anyways..

teal orbit
hasty smelt
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What do you think the weekly quests will be like?

teal orbit
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not the aristocrats n stuff

hasty smelt
teal orbit
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soooo we agree?

hasty smelt
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Well it will probably be in some populated area

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pretty much

pseudo heart
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Hhh plebeians?

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I mean,, the structures in the teasers don't rlly look all that fancy

hasty smelt
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true true

pseudo heart
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Maybe the higher class are in the higher mountains along the race

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hhh whose idea was it to build houses near race courses?

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I can't imagine sleeping

hasty smelt
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Whose idea was it to plow a race track through the houses?

pseudo heart
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Side eyes the elders which one of youpFIRE

lethal stump
teal orbit
pseudo heart
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The opening cutscene says the opposite

teal orbit
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plus it was prob a privelige to have a house next to a race...

pseudo heart
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It's silent because there's no one in there hhhhhh

lethal stump
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are you ok ? you keep going ‘hhh’

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it makes you seem uncomfortable

hasty smelt
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I saw a theory once upon a time that GW and Valley used to be connected, forming "Golden Valley", but when GW got infested with darkness the elders covered it with clouds so the season might also be in the connecting area?

pseudo heart
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Hhhhhh is pretty much "hahhahahha" and uhm... A habit hhhhh

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No wonder they didn't listen,, they were deaf because of all the noise in the Valley

hasty smelt
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h is a very cool letter ngl

teal orbit
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kkkkkkk and hhhhh r basically the same too

lethal stump
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imma be honest i think when they weren’t being used as race tracks, they were roads/highways of sorts

pseudo heart
pseudo heart
teal orbit
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valley is an exotic place lol

lethal stump
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no, thats when it’s being used as a race track

teal orbit
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u do realize the horns blow when the doors open....

lethal stump
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i do

teal orbit
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its an automated system

pseudo heart
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I mean when you're lead by two embodiments of chaos..

lethal stump
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automated systems can be turned off

queen locust
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man imagine having horns blow when new shipments arrive-

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'THE GOODS HAVE ARRIVED- ALL HAIL'

pseudo heart
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I think houses near race courses is the least we can be worried about—

teal orbit
lethal stump
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« oh gee there’s been a nuclear explosion, my first priority is gonna be turning off the automated horns in valley »

queen locust
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somehow I wouldn't put it past the Twins to make a spectacle out of everything- even shipments

teal orbit
lethal stump
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how do you know that ? how do you know that it was off at the time of the eden explosion ?

teal orbit
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because no one can come n turn them back on if they r all dead

pseudo heart
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I—

teal orbit
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makes sense right?

lethal stump
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that assumes everyone died when they were off
assuming they are automated, but can be turned off, they would have been on when everyone died

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whatever tech the sky ppl use is durable that’s for sure

queen locust
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Did everyone actually die at once when it exploded though

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like- halting the convo about the automated horns for a bit

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Because I don't think everyone died at once when the explosion happened

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All of Eden might have- but certainly not the entirety of the world of Sky, right?

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I dunno- stupid question

pseudo heart
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I think the stuff that happened leading up to the explosion was gradual like,..

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Ye

queen locust
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Everyone was gradually dying and THEN the boom happened- that too-

pseudo heart
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Not dying..

teal orbit
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gee i just survived a nuclear explosion my first priority is gonna be turning on the automated horns in valley

pseudo heart
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Uhhh being corrupted?

weak wharf
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There was the weird dotty plague thing going on too-

teal orbit
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thats just darkness

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not a sickness

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or disease

queen locust
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do people really place priority over those automated horns- like come on man it might have doubled as some sort of PA system

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Or warnings

teal orbit
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yes

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they wouldnt have been turned off

queen locust
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Because THOSE are important in dire catastrophic times

teal orbit
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haha morse code pa

pseudo heart
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I mean.. the doors, bridges and other mechanisms sorts of still work to this day

teal orbit
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ye

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they would have been on at the time of the explosion for warnings and PA

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and "gee i just survived a nuclear explosion my first priority is gonna be turning on the automated horns in valley"

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rlly?

pseudo heart
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I think the ancestors knew and were feeling the consequences of their actions

teal orbit
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i sense a disturbance in the force...

pseudo heart
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And tried to repair it,, the enchantment people,,, but eden diamond said nah—

queen locust
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imagine having your PA system be comprised of celebratory horns and insane applause

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plus fireworks

teal orbit
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i still think the king blew up the eden diamond

pseudo heart
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But why

teal orbit
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redemption

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the prince inside him

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turned back to the light side

hushed steeple
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Is it always a summerlike season in Sky because time is kinda stopped?

pseudo heart
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Oooh ye I've thought about that too

hushed steeple
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oo

pseudo heart
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Has the daylight cycle always been static in the world of Sky

teal orbit
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gee i wish there were a place high up in the air with scary crystals and high winds....

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i would call it eden

hushed steeple
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W h y

teal orbit
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also

pseudo heart
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👁️👄👁️

teal orbit
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rhythm qg crying in the corner

queen locust
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Have I just been gone long enough that I can't tell if that was sarcasm or not-

pseudo heart
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I'm kinda lost too hhh

queen locust
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Anyway- so- time is funny in Sky-

teal orbit
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it was sarcasm....

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like seasons change with the seasons

queen locust
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We only see actual change in the Seasons in Homespace

pseudo heart
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Oh yeah— we do have seasons—

hushed steeple
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heck*

queen locust
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The ocean freezing over is observed only in homespace

pseudo heart
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Ooooooh ye

queen locust
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is what I meant-

hushed steeple
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You know, homespace is kind of a strange area

queen locust
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The rest of the world otherwise retains their climate

teal orbit
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the other realms prob have elder magic to keep the realms to match the elders` personality

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haha im a genius

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lol

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homespace is a normal place

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unaffected by elder magic

pseudo heart
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Naaah,, that's what's make homespace weird

teal orbit
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so maybe its the realms that r strange

queen locust
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really with regards to the rest of the world- Homespace is the abnormality

teal orbit
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not the time or homespace

hushed steeple
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Since elders are in another realm somewhere different throughout space and time

Is homespace also the same kinda place? Not really where the elders are, but just somewhere in a different time somewhere in space?

teal orbit
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nah

queen locust
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Think of it with regards to the rest of the world Pyre- Homespace is a tiny pocket of weird

teal orbit
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we see homespace from isle

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@hushed steeple

pseudo heart
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No we don't???

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Do we???

teal orbit
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we.... do.....

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i think

queen locust
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has that ever actually been confirmed

hushed steeple
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oh boy

queen locust
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We see a lump of land from the distance in HOMESPACE

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But not Isle

pseudo heart
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That's like.. OOB homespace

teal orbit
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homespace lump is the opening cutscene island

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but anyway we r sure time flows normally in sky

queen locust
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or maybe my device is just too clunky for this and you guys really see a disproportionately tiny island from Isle idk

pseudo heart
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Then I think my phone is as clunky as yours

hushed steeple
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In isle I just cr

teal orbit
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respect dud

hushed steeple
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So I don't look at anthingy

queen locust
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If time flowed normally in Sky valley wouldn't be so snowy anymore what with the constant sunset beating down on it

pseudo heart
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Yeah ..

lethal stump
hushed steeple
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Yoooo

teal orbit
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plus it doesnt snow

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its just cold

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like... high mountains....

pseudo heart
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There's ice—

teal orbit
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geography....

pseudo heart
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We have an ice rink

teal orbit
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yes

queen locust
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It DOESN'T snow- but it doesn't change the fact that it's icy and it's covered in snow

teal orbit
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himalayas.....

pseudo heart
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The himalayas does snow right......

teal orbit
lethal stump
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what makes you think the ice rink is artificial pSquint

teal orbit
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the boat?

lethal stump
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seems pretty natural, aside from the boats

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it’s...natural...for water to freeze...

teal orbit
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the pillars too

queen locust
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pyre you said it yourself- geography

pseudo heart
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And there doesn't seem to be any mechanism around it?

queen locust
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Water freezes

pseudo heart
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It's just... There

teal orbit
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but they carved the ice

lethal stump
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it’s probably the remnants of a glacier that formed the races in the first place

weak wharf
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If they carved the ice it wouldn't look so... jagged.

pseudo heart
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Oh my god I've been doing math subjects for the couple days lemme just .. make room for geography

teal orbit
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they seem to have carved out a bit of the ice and put in pillars

hushed steeple
queen locust
teal orbit
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we DO see pillars in the ice rink

lethal stump
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or the pillars were already there and the water froze

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far more likely

teal orbit
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huh?

lethal stump
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they build something during the warm season (things do melt, even on mountains)
cold season comes around, the ice freezes around the pillars

teal orbit
#

but there is no purpose for the pillars...

lethal stump
#

yes there is

hushed steeple
#

How can snow be artificial

lethal stump
#

to hold up the building above them

hushed steeple
#

Or the entirety of winter weather

teal orbit
#

the only thing they do is hold up the ice in the rick

lethal stump
#

no...?

#

there’s platforms that the pillars connect to

#

above the ice

teal orbit
#

rlly?

lethal stump
#

yes

teal orbit
#

soooo the ice rink is natural?

#

rllyrllyrlly?

lethal stump
#

yes

teal orbit
#

cooooooooool

hushed steeple
#

Also why would the snow be artificial

lethal stump
#

why would they need pillars to hold up ice that seems to be 1ft thick anyways

teal orbit
#

huh....

#

oh and snow rlly

#

is natural

#

in valley

#

its not a time thing

hushed steeple
#

Indeed

teal orbit
#

high places get snow like that

lethal stump
#

yes
snow and ice occur naturally at high altitudes

queen locust
#

Pyre you said that yourself

#

g e o g r a p h y

lethal stump
#

they also occur naturally in more northern zones

#

further from the equator

teal orbit
#

i was refuting this all this time

#

haha virdi lol

queen locust
#

You didn't let me finish- I was going to inquire about something else concerning time

lethal stump
#

it would melt and re-freeze

teal orbit
#

ye

lethal stump
#

it wouldn’t be constantly frozen 24/7

teal orbit
#

the sunset is just a game mech

lethal stump
#

eh

queen locust
#

i'm- I don't think we can dismiss that as mere game mech

lethal stump
#

the realm is literally based around sunsets
why would the main inspiration for the realm be a « game mech »

#

the realm was even originally called « sunset »

teal orbit
lethal stump
#

i said that as if valley experienced seasons

teal orbit
lethal stump
#

if valley had seasons it wouldn’t be frozen 24/7

teal orbit
#

oh there we go

#

elder magic prevents seasons

lethal stump
#

you do know each realm is based around a time of day right ?

teal orbit
#

no rlly each realm matches the elder`s personality... that cant be a coincidence...

lethal stump
#

they progress by time
you know that right ?

queen locust
#

it isn't a coincidence it was literally ingrained in the game design

lethal stump
#

you go from dawn to day to rain to sunset to dusk to night to storm

teal orbit
ripe forum
#

there's prob a lot we can't access tho

lethal stump
#

that’s where the time loop/frozen time theory comes from, pyre

#

each realm is stuck in a certain time of day

queen locust
#

thanks for the theory btw brick that was what I was looking for-

lethal stump
#

np viridi

#

dm me if you need any theories i’ve written in the past

teal orbit
#

yes.... im saying its elder magic cuz darkness plants actually grow in different places each day...

#

cant be a time loop... can it?

lethal stump
#

the elders probably aren’t strong enough to do that though

#

like look at them

teal orbit
#

the elders literally made the whole city...

queen locust
#

Quick question- what things are we supposed to be dismissing as game mech and what aren't

teal orbit
#

we dont know

#

its been driving me crazy

cold steppe
#

there's very little confirmed lore, so it could be both, either, or neither, tbh

queen locust
#

because I'm like 75% sure that the darkness plants and candle cakes being in different locations depending on the day is also just a mechanic

cold steppe
#

hi all

#

long time no see

queen locust
#

heya Wren

teal orbit
#

hi stranger~~~

lethal stump
#

isle is broken and aged
prairie is just. asleep
forest is still mourning her power diamond
valley. valley is valley. nuff said
wasteland leapt down once (1) and went oh megan ow my back
and vault seems in mourning too

i don’t think in this state they’d be able to maintain the time-freeze

cold steppe
#

what if megabird is

queen locust
#

Wasteland Elder has developed scoliosis spread the word

lethal stump
#

that’s what i think

#

i think megabird has the world in a very complicated time loop/freeze/thing

queen locust
#

And so Elders being in limbo- also causes the world to be in a similar state of stasis- did I get that right-

cold steppe
#

Isle of Dawn in perpetual dawn

teal orbit
cold steppe
#

?

queen locust
#

is that like- Star Trek-

lethal stump
#

because sky isn’t dirk gently or wh40k ???

queen locust
#

i don't know any dirks-

teal orbit
cold steppe
#

I don't know either reference pCry

teal orbit
queen locust
#

anyway- time freeze right-

teal orbit
kind bobcat
#

This turned to warhammer lore huh

cold steppe
#

it's not impossible, no
but is it the most likely explanation

teal orbit
kind bobcat
#

No, actually. I do not

cold steppe
#

theory: the realms of Sky stay at the same time of day so Oreo is in perpetual sunshine

teal orbit
#

is oreo lore?

cold steppe
#

if we're getting into the really fun aspects of time looping, a long time can pass but the day itself loops

#

like you spend 10000 days but it's like reliving the same one

hollow orbit
queen locust
#

A long time has passed outside of the Kingdom itself being in stasis

cold steppe
#

if that makes sense

#

or that, yeah

#

we're brought into the loop

#

or spawned into the loop

queen locust
#

That's what I'm kinda feeling is what's happening-

lethal stump
#

if the entire place had legit experienced the time passing and wasn’t in stasis, then it probably would have been far more destroyed than we see now

cold steppe
#

so many exciting possibilities pWow

kind bobcat
#

The economy would die because candles would only be able to be lit once and melt to nothing.

cold steppe
#

TGC feed us more info pls pCry

hollow orbit
teal orbit
#

so many dreadful possibilities... i personally dont like time loops...

cold steppe
#

I take it the Prophecy murals didn't give any info about timeline

queen locust
#

what economy- are skids sophisticated enough to make an entire economy on their own-

cold steppe
#

we live on an economy run by the spirits

#

with the exception of heart trades

queen locust
kind bobcat
lethal stump
teal orbit
#

candles dont melt in sky except for a few

queen locust
#

o r g a n trade

kind bobcat
#

h e a r t s

teal orbit
#

eye moisturizer trade

lethal stump
teal orbit
#

[turns around and gives spirits candles]

queen locust
#

I mean- it's a fair trade I think- we give them candles and they give us wigs

#

from beyond the grave

teal orbit
queen locust
#

that they somehow have multiple copies of

teal orbit
#

moisturizer

cold steppe
#

ah

teal orbit
#

yes

lethal stump
teal orbit
#

ignore the meme part

#

think of it as a pic

#

spirits dont have eyelids

cold steppe
#

is it confirmed that there aren't eyelids?

#

and also, consider this, they don't need eyelids

hushed steeple
#

But why would they lick their eyes kzjxgdgxj

teal orbit
#

they sleep with both eyes open

cold steppe
#

or licking

#

I get the idea though

queen locust
#

do they have tongues to lick their eyes with

hushed steeple
#

Do they have tongues...?

queen locust
#

or- anything with-

teal orbit
#

EYE MOISTURIZER

lethal stump
#

from the look of their eyes, which seem to protrude from their face, it doesn’t seem they have eyelids
there’s no folds or anything

kind bobcat
#

They don't even have visible mouths pEyes

weak wharf
#

My god we're going into cursed territory now-

hushed steeple
#

I don't think it would make sense for them to have mouths or noses

queen locust
hushed steeple
#

They don't even have skin

lethal stump
#

we see them farming...do they just...absorb their food ?

hushed steeple
#

I think skids were made in all of the elders' image tbh

weak wharf
#

We know spirits can talk, since the ones in Office can-

#

H o w d o t h e y t a l k t h o -

hushed steeple
teal orbit
hushed steeple
lethal stump
#

what

kind bobcat
#

what

hollow orbit
#

what

lethal stump
#

when did we agree to that ???

kind bobcat
#

Does that mean they secrete enzymes?

hollow orbit
#

HUH

teal orbit
#

i thought we did....

queen locust
#

i agreed to nothing-

kind bobcat
#

digestive enzymes?

teal orbit
#

in a way

cold steppe
#

how did this happen

#

when did we get into this

#

wait when did you decide that spirits decompose things?

queen locust
#

do you really wanna go back and look for that convo Wren this chat goes fast

hushed steeple
#

Nah

cold steppe
#

I mean
yeah

teal orbit
#

i started this to distract everyone from the time loop theory lol
jkjkjk

cold steppe
#

:(

teal orbit
#

jk

hushed steeple
#

Ight bro

kind bobcat
#

:o

queen locust
#

I'm... not sure that's a thing you can say so casually

teal orbit
#

it was accidental

cold steppe
#

lore chat be wilding

#

as usual

teal orbit
#

if u wanna lets go back to time loops

lethal stump
#

things i wonder about spirits:

  • how eat
  • how sleep
  • how economy
#

now i need to go

cold steppe
#

bye brick!

queen locust
#

Aight bye Brick

teal orbit
#

bye

hushed steeple
#

Elders prob don't sleep
Elders probably absorb food.... Somehow

Economy, they just do

ripe forum
#

wait are we talking abt elders or ancestor spirits i'm confused

queen locust
#

oh wait nvm

teal orbit
icy spruce
#

what

teal orbit
#

the trade spirit sleeps

#

and the faint dud

queen locust
#

And wait a sec doesn't PRAIRIE Elder sleep

teal orbit
#

but we dont see their eyes

queen locust
#

The guy was literally in hibernation

#

in limbo

icy spruce
#

Huh

weak wharf
#

Well wasn't that 'cause he lost his light?

ripe forum
#

i thought the faint dude just... passed away honestly

queen locust
#

press F for Fainting Warrior

teal orbit
#

f

hushed steeple
queen locust
#

Like sleeping to regain his energy

#

or smthn along those lines

teal orbit
#

oh slumbering shipwright too

hushed steeple
#

Wait in the prairie cutscene, when prairie elder wakes up.... Isnt he shown with eyelids? I probably am not remembering correctly

teal orbit
weak wharf
#

They have beds, so they gotta sleep-
Even though they're made of stone and can barely be qualified as a good bed-

teal orbit
#

wut?

#

no

#

i think

queen locust
#

Idk if we're really like the spirits since we're never shown eating

teal orbit
#

they r nt stone

queen locust
#

just absorbing glowy bois

weak wharf
#

In the yawning spirit's house thingy?

#

Wait-

hollow orbit
sly kestrel
#

No one said they were made of stone...

queen locust
#

THE EYE MAN

icy spruce
#

Yes

weak wharf
#

They sounded like stone-

hushed steeple
icy spruce
#

Cursed eye dude

teal orbit
weak wharf
#

We know that elders can blink though-

teal orbit
#

we do?

queen locust
icy spruce
#

Huh

hollow orbit
#

I mean is it a bug if you have visible eyelids

weak wharf
#

Vault elder-

teal orbit
hushed steeple
hollow orbit
#

ah

tired matrix
#

so I went through eden and ive been wondering: what is this building?

queen locust
#

I can pull it up if ya'll need to examine that cursed thing

queen locust
teal orbit
hushed steeple
weak wharf
#

That's the Eden castle, kinda like the elder's statue rooms?

teal orbit
#

thats the castle

weak wharf
#

I think I dunno-

teal orbit
#

home of the eden elder

hushed steeple
#

Also, sleeping with eyes open is possible, so maybe elders do sleep with eyes open. It may not be normal seeming to us, but maybe it's normal for them.

teal orbit
#

like fish

queen locust
weak wharf
#

Wait what are we talking about again, spirits or elders-

hushed steeple
#

Elders

teal orbit
#

spirits

queen locust
#

Probably both

hushed steeple
#

Three types of ppl

weak wharf
#

Well the Vault elder can close their eyes-

ripe forum
#

Just because they can doesn't mean they have to

queen locust
#

I've skipped that cutscene too much to remember

hushed steeple
#

Lmao

#

I often skip every cutscene and don't remember much of them

queen locust
#

I mean- I guess they don't need to sleep, usually?

#

I don't know- they've been powered by light so far so I guess having lost it Prairie Elder literally just flopped down and discovered he could sleep for the first time in his life

weak wharf
#

I remember all of the cutscenes-
EspeciallytheWastelandcutscene'causethefirsttimeIwatchedithescaredthelivingdaylightsouttame-

hushed steeple
#

Couldn't rlly find a good picture

#

At all

#

But

#

I observed all I could and

weak wharf
#

Actually yeah-

#

Why does Vault elder have pupils-

hushed steeple
#

Vault elder's eyes don't glow white and stuff compared to the others. She seems more.... Human like

queen locust
#

Vault Elder has a noticeably lighter motif than the rest of them too- barely any black on them

teal orbit
rose gorge
hushed steeple
#

Yeah she definitely blinks

teal orbit
icy spruce
#

yep

teal orbit
#

knock yourselves out

icy spruce
#

I-

hushed steeple
#

WAIT

#

Forest has kinda similar eyes to vault

queen locust
#

man it'd be terrifying of the King really had only one eye and that was his gigantic laser one

weak wharf
#

I can't see whether the Forest elder has pupils or nah-

teal orbit
#

krill eye?

queen locust
ripe forum
#

it could just be their mask?

teal orbit
#

ye

hushed steeple
#

Are they siblings I wonder

teal orbit
#

its the mask

queen locust
#

They're stated to be related- in what way is never really explained

teal orbit
#

elders and skids r subspecies (cofirmed)

#

they blink

#

spirits r not

hushed steeple
#

The king gives me Vaatu from LOK vibes

teal orbit
#

he gave me vader vibes......

hushed steeple
#

That too

teal orbit
#

and grievous vibes

hushed steeple
#

Basically the king is a villain like character

teal orbit
#

this child will make a fine addition to my collection

queen locust
#

just Sauron vibes on my end don't mind me

weak wharf
#

Hear the Tragedy of Darth Plagueis the wise...

teal orbit
hushed steeple
queen locust
icy spruce
#

TAKE A SHOT EVERYONNEEE

queen locust
#

But he's never portrayed as someone who was COMPLETELY good

teal orbit
hushed steeple
#

I'm basing it off of what characters he seems to resemble

heady sequoia
hushed steeple
#

But I don't really have much opinion on him

teal orbit
queen locust
#

at least to my knowledge no one's really come forth with a theory that suggests that the King was some holy holy monk

hushed steeple
#

For all we know king could be a misunderstood anti hero that just made a really big mistake

teal orbit
#

rlly?

#

thank u now read that @hushed steeple

queen locust
#

Still you couldn't really call that someone firmly on the side of good

queen locust
#

And Pyre's is one of many

weak wharf
#

Well no one's really "good" or "bad" so like-

hushed steeple
#

Indeed

queen locust
#

He's not like krill at least where you can't draw a complete line of morality for them because you know

#

They're creatures

hushed steeple
#

Ofc

hushed steeple
queen locust
#

With the King he's just some vague overarching entity that's present SOMEWHERE

heady sequoia
#

What's outside the kingdom of sky?

teal orbit
queen locust
heady sequoia
#

Maybe some other kingdoms.

queen locust
#

We see travelling spirits come from somewhere else-

heady sequoia
#

Maybe a special event could be s h i p s landing on our shores-

hushed steeple
#

It's almost like

Aliens come to visit the sky world

queen locust
#

Rhythm troupe doesn't feel like a native group of people to the kingdom either

weak wharf
#

Birb tribe-

icy spruce
#

ye

#

Nor Enchatment

heady sequoia
#

BIRB TRBE

queen locust
#

aren't the Elders basically kind of aliens

teal orbit
#

ye

icy spruce
#

Huh, true-

queen locust
#

They fell from the skies and started having sovereign over their realms

hushed steeple
#

It's like all of the organisms in sky are aliens

#

Except ancestors

#

Maybe

heady sequoia
teal orbit
#

ye

weak wharf
#

Aren't the classical spirits (for the lack of a better name) native?

hushed steeple
#

To us it's alien yeah

queen locust
#

come to think of it by that definition skids are definitely aliens if they fell the same way that first kid did in Isle

hushed steeple
#

But we're leaving Earth out of this ofc

heady sequoia
#

hMMMMMm

teal orbit
#

by @heady sequoia

#

lmao

queen locust
#

If, Pyre- if-

heady sequoia
#

Oh n, I was reffering towards whats pas the ocean in isle

weak wharf
#

The Prophecy spirits are probably native-

teal orbit
#

ye

heady sequoia
#

ye

teal orbit
#

ye

hushed steeple
#

ye

icy spruce
#

ye

queen locust
#

Kind of safe to assume that every vanilla spirit we relive is native to Sky

teal orbit
#

no virdi

#

u broke the cycle

heady sequoia
#

:(

icy spruce
#

:((

weak wharf
#

Y'mean a chain?

teal orbit
#

ye

heady sequoia
#

the chain

weak wharf
#

ye

icy spruce
#

I am krill >:((

weak wharf
#

Fk.

hushed steeple
#

r/youbrokethechain

heady sequoia
#

back to lore

teal orbit
#

ye

icy spruce
#

ye

queen locust
#

I uh- don't really like chains-

icy spruce
#

:((

weak wharf
#

Ok back to loring-

heady sequoia
#

BACK TO LOREEEE

hushed steeple
#

That's okay viridi

icy spruce
#

L O R E

teal orbit
#

lore

icy spruce
#

BEFORE ONE MORE GLASS

weak wharf
#

So the classic spirits are probably native-

icy spruce
#

ye

queen locust
#

ANYWAY- Sanctuary spirits- definitely on vacation, probably not native

heady sequoia
#

So uh

undone fern
#

What are krill

icy spruce
#

WAIITTT, AREN'T ANCESTORS LIKE-

#

STARSS

heady sequoia
#

What's past the oceans in isle

icy spruce
#

hhhh

weak wharf
#

Vacation spirits-

queen locust
teal orbit
icy spruce
#

ancestors are stars, right?

vast latch
hushed steeple
#

I thought spirits were just some ancestors

icy spruce
#

So they're not native-

teal orbit
undone fern
#

Is there any lore on what exactly they arepEyes

weak wharf
#

Darkness I guess-

teal orbit
#

they r natural creatures

heady sequoia
#

Other kingdoms where the ts come from!
NO WAY!
OTHER SKIDS TOO!
maybe one day we'll get too have a seperate game, to explore these kingdoms

icy spruce
weak wharf
#

War machines, maybe.

hushed steeple
#

@undone fern I think it's just all theory based right now what they are

queen locust
#

Definitely native, organic creatures-

hushed steeple
heady sequoia
#

dark dragons

teal orbit
weak wharf
#

Mm yeah-

heady sequoia
#

That's what the game calls them

#

DARK DRAGONS

teal orbit
#

but animals trained for war, yes

icy spruce
#

YE

teal orbit
#

YE

icy spruce
#

YE

weak wharf
#

At this point the line between canon and non-canon is. Difficult to see-

teal orbit
#

nooooooooooooooo

icy spruce
#

:((

queen locust
#

Animals trained for war is a hard maybe

heady sequoia
#

mhm

teal orbit
#

mhm

vast latch
#

Mhm

icy spruce
#

mhm

hushed steeple
#

Goodness

queen locust
#

Because I still have my misgivings about the krill bowing down to pretty much anyone

#

and let's be careful not to turn this into a spam chat ok guys

weak wharf
#

Goodness sake I thought we stopped making chains-

hushed steeple
#

Idk what to think of krill. Not enough information, only theories.

lethal stump
#

agree, they seem pretty feral

teal orbit
#

they feed on light

coral eagle
#

Krills might be pollution really angry pollution lol.

teal orbit
#

they arent sentient

#

we think

lethal stump
#

you think

heady sequoia
#

angry pollution

coral eagle
#

They live off instinct for sure

heady sequoia
#

yes

queen locust
#

I have my misgivings about that too tho like- there can't have been that much pollution when Prophecy happened

teal orbit
#

oh u mean karen

heady sequoia
#

true

queen locust
#

And we see a krill depicted on the Prophecy murals

heady sequoia
icy spruce
#

kareeeeeen

teal orbit
#

karen was there from the start

icy spruce
#

the krill

lethal stump
#

krills are most likely natural creatures, i don’t see why they wouldn’t be sentient to some degree

icy spruce
#

Karen the krill

teal orbit
#

karen is evil no question abt that

heady sequoia
#

k a r e n

icy spruce
#

the massive krill

teal orbit
queen locust
#

Evil is a strong word for something classified as a natural creature with no sense of morality

teal orbit
#

no

heady sequoia
#

how does omega krill looke

teal orbit
#

karen is sentient

heady sequoia
#

o

lethal stump
#

that’s literally just a scaled up image ??

heady sequoia
#

OH MY GOD

weak wharf
#

So we have a Megabirb... and now we have a Megakrill?

heady sequoia
#

I WANT TO SEE THAT INGAME :o

queen locust
teal orbit
#

trial mural

coral eagle
#

They are natural, maybe they were domesticated at first but then Peta came in and said no and accidentally made them angy

lethal stump
# teal orbit

this doesn’t prove that krill is bigger than others, it’s just a scaled-up image

undone fern
#

The krill in the picture on the wall looks like a mother whale with its babypWow

heady sequoia
#

I wanna know how megakrill looks like

#

also we have mega manta

teal orbit
coral eagle
#

There is a possibility of it being a "spirit" krill much like how there are spirit mantas

lethal stump
#

it’s an elder manta, not megamanta

heady sequoia
lethal stump
#

are yall on about a GOD or just a REALLY BIG ANIMAL

coral eagle
#

Big chonky animal

weak wharf
queen locust
teal orbit
queen locust
#

there's your original image by the way

heady sequoia
#

megan is god but megan krill is animal

teal orbit
#

megakrill

icy spruce
#

elder krill

heady sequoia
teal orbit
#

no

icy spruce
#

King/Prince

queen locust
weak wharf
#

Oh that's probably the Prince-

coral eagle
#

I mean the krill could have been light creatures at one point, give for take a few events

teal orbit
#

thats the prince

heady sequoia
#

o

queen locust
#

Mostly by virtue of Prince=us theory

lethal stump
weak wharf
#

50 million pieces of the Prince-

teal orbit
#

rlly?

heady sequoia
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So when they see us, they go
Oh god prince but diffrent hair

teal orbit
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same thing with ascension trigger

hushed steeple
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Idk what's happening in this discussion anymore

vast latch
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Prince with ponytail

icy spruce
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me too

lethal stump
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hair doesn’t have gender but that’s a topic for a different time

queen locust
vast latch
icy spruce
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yep

coral eagle
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Chaos theory

heady sequoia
weak wharf
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Ok let's gather out thoughts-
What even are we talking about rn-

vast latch
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When lore chat loses all of its braincells

heady sequoia
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lel

queen locust
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Uh- the dubious existence of Megakrill

coral eagle
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About Krils

hushed steeple
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I have a headache but with no pain that's how I feel rn

icy spruce
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Debating if Elder krill/Megakrill is real or not-

queen locust
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because it's extremely dubious

weak wharf
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Ok so there isn't canon proof on whether it exists so-

coral eagle
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Mega Spirit Krill God slayer Guts the sky kid

teal orbit
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prince used to trigger ascension but now he`s in exile and the light creatures think we r the prince so now we trigger ascension

hushed steeple
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Sure, elder krill(s) probably exist

teal orbit
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ye

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called karen

icy spruce
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I only have half a braincell working.

icy spruce
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cool

queen locust
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key word is probably

teal orbit
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yup

heady sequoia
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ASCEND AND JOIN US

hushed steeple
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I love keywords they're important

heady sequoia
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help

coral eagle
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I mean whales exist, or at least one. So maybe ya boy has a counterpart?

lethal stump
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honestly i rlly doubt if megakrill as a god is a thing
in all the concepts, megabird was the sole god, connected to everything
an elder krill ? could be a possibility, but i doubt that krill in the fire trial mural is an elder krill since it just looks like a normal krill but bigger. usually elder creatures have something different about them other than just size

heady sequoia
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Yes. maybe its just krill but scary big

teal orbit
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oooooh megan`s pet krill

coral eagle
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The Shadows in The Trials seem to be trail exclusive tbh.

heady sequoia
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ok

queen locust
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I mean compare it to Megan who I still question the godhood of- worldly krill vs a gigantic vaguely bird-shaped lump of light

heady sequoia
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ok

icy spruce
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it could also be the artstyle. Like sometimes some things can be drawn as big but in reality, it's small.

coral eagle
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Or really small and very close

heady sequoia
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ye-

hushed steeple
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That's usually what I lean towards chesca

heady sequoia
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but hey

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Megan is still god

icy spruce
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Prolly

coral eagle
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Guys, micro Krill

heady sequoia
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micro krill?

queen locust
lethal stump
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could be bigger to represent darkness as a concept
like « the prince driving away darkness with his light » kinda thing

vast latch
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Micro krill

hushed steeple
teal orbit
icy spruce
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Since it wasn't confirmed by the devs that Megan exists

teal orbit
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cherry krill not mircro krill

weak wharf
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Besides like-
The Prince was drawn significantly bigger than the elders-
Even though we're fairly sure that the Prince is way smaller-