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especially since the credits likely depict the only canon scene of Megabird
Well, that means there is lore scenes in them right? but credits themselves aren't lore.
i didnt realize that was supposed to be a bird
Isn't the Megabird a Phoenix?
star birb
If they are, you're telling me that at the end of every rebirth cycle, the skykid sees a bunch of names floating in the sky as stars
That wouldn't make sense at all!
It'd make sense, assky kids are mede of lights and they reborn
im not saying the credit-credits are lore
i don’t think names are legit floating through the sky
however, i do think it’s odd that we get to see the entire galaxy but no sign of the kingdom we were playing through
our kid also sees the buttons on the screen lol
But you glitched the game to see outside the credit scene?
No ahah obviously credits have lire like in the background
I don't think the creators name mean anything as for lore eheh
listen
i was saying
while watching the credits
the camera zooms out
we see orbit
but there isn’t anything below it
no sign of the kingdom
does that make sense
Of course we don't see it. We're looking the other way.
...But it is a credit scene. Does it need to show the kingdom to improve the lore of the credits?
If we were looking towards the kingdom, we would be zooming in
I mean, you could ask TGC to put the kingdom in if it makes you feel better
it should show the kingdom for continuity
unless there’s a legit reason we can’t see the kingdom
Instead we are looking towards the one kicking us out, abandoning us to a cold dark world and... Wait why don't other planets have signs of lil kingdoms?
The reason why we don't see the kingdom is because the credits are form a point of view where the sky kid would be looking upwards
h
huh
The Megabird can be seen in orbit too
Why would stars only fall onto OUR planet and not any of the others?
Listen, the only thing important in a credit scene is all the people who supported or worked on the game. We got some pretty stars and a tad bit of lore at the end, It doesn't need anything else. it's all visuals
Unless... Maybe stars always fall away from Megan?
Credits scene in movies, games pretty often do have extra information or lore
why does one bit of the credits get to be lore related (megan) but a different part doesn’t (lack of kingdom ?) omitting meta ofc
Nothing too big but they do have them
Yeah, and it gave us some lore.
it sounds like you’re cherry-picking for no real reason, Bugkid
Huh who what now?
Ohhh I don't know but it sure would be nice to see the kingdom from so far up
we agree that meta doesn’t count as lore (the names floating in the sky)
we also agree the megabird scene counts as lore
but why does the whole sequence not count as lore to you ? except for some arbitrary reason related to meta that we have already agreed isn’t lore-related ?
Listen, let's talk about Captain America: The Winter Soldier. They gave us an ending thingy after the credits. But the backdrop itself is not lore related. There doesn't have to be a reason why the backdrop of the credits is America. They did what they wanted to do to make it pretty
Maybe it's simply a technical question?
Like too much to load so they choose to only show the Megabird?
Does four of the different realms are associated with one element ?
Other planets exist. Forget our kingdom, are there kingdoms on all planets? Did falling only happen a certain distance from Megan?
have you ever seen a movie where the ending credits go back over events ? or heck, seen ones that include teasers for later content ? there’s too many to name, it’s not unheard of for credits to be important
I think as you reborn, seeing what you are leaving is more important than what you are going back to
Prairie: earth
Forest: water
Valley: air
GW: fire
That’s what I was thinking
Either nothing or something huge is important about what the kingdom looks like from above
I really think that's because it would be too much for devices to handle
But maybe they do form something?
Possibility 1: the devs don't want to define too much so it is easier to add new areas without worrying about space
That would be a good explanation too eheh
Possibility 2: there is an actual map defined for the kingdom and knowing it is something that would explain something early
sorry for thé laugh emote, slippy fingers
Maybe Eden related?
Also possible
That's the more misterius realm as it doesn't have any spirits
Expept for maybe the king
What if our planet is in a black hole?
But we don't actually have it in the game
And we can't look back because we can see nothing if we did
Now, I want to hear what Bricky thinks! I respect his thought and opinion. Bricky, what were you thinking as to why you can't see the kingdom in the credits?
if it was a black hole, we wouldn’t be able to leave at all
Xrays can leave a black hole. And they are finding other ways for light and info to escape as well
i came hère with it to brainstorm with the lot of you about possible reasons, i haven’t thought about a lore reason yet
Then we wouldn't exist anymore
Well, if nobody can think of one, is it fair to say there isn't? :3
The black whole would be like
Sssshhhhlllllluurrrrppppp
have you not been reading the conversation ? null legit proposed three possibilities, albeit two were meta, as to why the kingdom isn’t there, and the topic is still ongoing
...o.o
And it IS SHLURPING STARS which is why they are ONLY falling here! But that shlurping has weakened for whatever reason which is why we can take spieits and flee
Those didn't seem like lore to me. :3 But alright. I also forgot the black hole possibility
Don't black holes like, rip things apart while sucking things in
it’s theorized they do
Then again black holes probably do a lot of things
Like maybe they're also forms of transportation
... I can't make tons of arguments for any of my claims when we have only little bits of info
I hope.... I hope they're forms of transportation and not death
Plus I am in brainstorm mode
if you don’t care for the subject then just don’t engage with it my guy, no one is forcing you to discuss this
u h
@lethal stump
Aren't those the locations distributed by the Prince, but not according to how they're meant?
Well, I'm just enjoying the ride, but If I get you angry I'll leave
Later, friends!
wdym ?
The four elements
what about them ?
What's this in reply to
Didn't the prince allocate three of them wrongly, which threw Valley, Forest and GW into chaos?
what ?
That's part of a theory
That's a theory pretty sure
I think from one of the butters?
Forest wasn't supposed to get water element, Etc.
b u t t e r
honestly i think the elements that correspond to the realms and elders are rather fitting
Do you guys know the lore for each season?
doesn’t seem to me like anything was misplaced, but maybe i’m just weird
How so
@echo reef it’s mostly up to you to make up 
Water trial is the virtue of patience.
Earth was the virtue of, what, determination? Right?
Air was Balance?
Fire was...oh man. I gotta go do the trials again. Lol
This theory is tied to where the lights were in the prophecy murals vs where we found similar enchantment lights
i better not prophe-see any spoilers here 
@pastel brook spoiler happy zone, buddy. ;)
I see it as
Water - Patience
Earth - Determination
Air - Progress
Fire - Bravery
How would people suffering from Scotophobia play Fire trial?

With their eyes closed.
Well, I think people with scotophobia can still play a game with dark environments in it, unless their phobia is severe. If it's that severe, I hope they seek treatment because that's unfortunate.
i think they are ALL patience lol
Indeed, but they still have their own themes
They do have to do a lot with patience though
Every trial is Platformer game from the 90s but in 3D
they’re all more like “trial of how far this game can push me before i throw my phone at the nearest cloud”
Yeah... we're short one trial: the trial of knowledge.
Your Skid sits down and takes a linguistics and history exam in game.....
prairie & earth go hand-in-hand, the whole realm is agricultural, and we see the earth element being used to make the land more plentiful & fertile
forest & water connection is a bit less strong, but basically the rain means you need timing regarding when you go out, when you charge, etc., as well as the forest elder clearly demonstrating a lack of patience (showing the elders have lost their virtues)
valley & air is pretty clear, everything is floating and the winds are strong. additionally, balance is a big theme since there’s the twins, which archetypally balance each other out (think jock & nerd twins)
gw & fire is also pretty clear, what with bravery and war and the like
that’s how i see it anyways
PURPLE ELEMENT
i’d love that, please give me sky conlang

@lethal stump I see. Makes sense
This comes after fire trial, since the trials seem to get harder and harder
Ok but what's the counter wisdom for knowledge?
I think krills were defensive machinery of the kingdom
möth
I just realized that I've eaten nothing today brb
willful ignorance ?
That's not a useful counter wisdom though
I have counters for all active wisdoms. Hold on
Here
Eat candles.
moth is a very useful counter wisdom to knowledge though. Can’t be scared of the dragons if you don’t know what they do
/j
You have learned the wisdom of wisdom.
COINCIDENCE?! I don't think so 
The mural was there for many MUCH time before the spirit memory but, anyway, 
@dry crypt sorry to ping you, but for a subjective answer I like to think the red light symbolizes corruption. in my mind it's similar to the red crystals found in eden. after all, the red light is found "where darkness prevails"
Ooooh, got it! That makes a lot of sense actually, haha!
for your picture above I'd like to quote master Oogway: there are no accidents 
the thing about this is that there are 2 stars falling in this picture
whereas only one star fell in the memory, which was the (presumed) child of light/kid that did the trials (probably lol)
so either both are the same event, or they are two different instances
either way 
dosent look the same
the mural is like praising
while the spirit one is just confused
Wuz going on now?
Hey fellow Loresters!
Yo
hi, it's been months since I've checked this chat
Hello
upper mural is the first 6 elders falling
the lower memory is the prince falling..
technically the prince is also an elder...
no wonder the star trails look the same lol
sooooo
coincidence... it is not
The 6 elders falling are in the opening cutscene
Why show them 2 times?
thats night and knowledge
the upper mural is from the isle denizens` point of view
opening cutscene is megan or the prince explaining it to us
Not confirmed!
see.... the opening cutscene was made specifically for skids but murals r like historybooks left by spirits a looooooong time ago...
Megan isn't is confirmed, as it can be vault (or any) elder
You can see it in orbit, ik, but it can be any bird, as it can be megan
and it could be any elder or it could be a game mech but my point is that the opening cutscene is directed at us while the murals r like cave paintings.... think of the opening cutscene as a school history class/book and think of the murals as those ancient history books kept in museums...
Also, isn't confirmed if it is the prince, most accepted theory, yes
so stuff in the opening cutscene is very likely to exist in the murals too
So many things in other's theories can be nonsense in the non confirmed theories
well.. some theories directly contradict the more recent updates or unknowingly contradict small non-game mech in game details... so the actual number of valid theories these days are very few...
but all theories r welcome
but
🧂
I mean is ok if you think that the things in sky are in that way but is like you're talking so VIOLENT 
Like confirming your theories i mean
oh yea they say i sound like that....
Hehe, take it nice bro/sis, just relax a bit okay?
They might not be a bro or sis btw
I mean idk but
Some people don't identify with those two labels
Also I don't see how the way pyre is talking is "violent"? I'm confused
I see
I don't really see the problem. It's just how you talk. I think it's fine as long as you confirm that you're not trying to say any theory or whatever is canon imo.
@hushed steeple, if u r a goth skid, how do u do cosmetics? im curious lol
I just do mostly all black clothing. I mainly wear that cobweb cape.
Yes
I made an intro in #introductions-archived not too long ago that shows what I mainly look like in game
Sonetimes I change it up tho when bored
coool
Yeee
im a bro lol
DID YOU KNOW:
chibis are able to swim up to 2 times faster than normal ppl?
"NORMAL PEOPLE" LMAOOOO
well... default size IS normal...
Nah I get what your mean it's just worded funny lol
Could this be where the new season is taking place?
That's very possible
huh...
Man I kinda regret scrolling up- also good morning ya'll
we r sure it willl be in the prolitariat sector right?
is that the flying or sliding race
both
Either way- that's where both races meet
there... are windows... on all sides....
true dat
Good morn 
Still processing the fact that DH event is long since gone 
Anyways.. new season discussions? 
I think the village would be near to the spot i pointed out because we can't actually see the temple from the teaser shot (just the arena) and the crack in the arena wall is in the same place
Crack?

unless i missed a discussion about it being in an entire other spot 
like the little nick in the wall
huh....
hold on lemme just screenshot
but we all agree the villiage ppl r the prolitariat right?
so anyways..
fancy word for working class lol
What do you think the weekly quests will be like?
not the aristocrats n stuff
oh thanks for explaining haha
soooo we agree?
Hhh plebeians?
I mean,, the structures in the teasers don't rlly look all that fancy
true true
Maybe the higher class are in the higher mountains along the race
hhh whose idea was it to build houses near race courses?
I can't imagine sleeping
Whose idea was it to plow a race track through the houses?
Side eyes the elders which one of you
whose idea was it to build houses next to highways ?
the races r very silent....
The opening cutscene says the opposite
plus it was prob a privelige to have a house next to a race...
It's silent because there's no one in there hhhhhh
I saw a theory once upon a time that GW and Valley used to be connected, forming "Golden Valley", but when GW got infested with darkness the elders covered it with clouds so the season might also be in the connecting area?
Hhhhhh is pretty much "hahhahahha" and uhm... A habit hhhhh
No wonder they didn't listen,, they were deaf because of all the noise in the Valley
h is a very cool letter ngl
the opnening cutscene signals a race and back in the day it only happened formally and everyone stayed up to watch it...prob
kkkkkkk and hhhhh r basically the same too
imma be honest i think when they weren’t being used as race tracks, they were roads/highways of sorts
Maybe if megabird granted us the power to mute bgm, the world of Sky would've beenn better 
megabird is devs confirmed
/j
I mean.... They're literally called races—
and when u enter the highway horns blow and ppl cheer?
valley is an exotic place lol
no, thats when it’s being used as a race track
u do realize the horns blow when the doors open....
i do
its an automated system
I mean when you're lead by two embodiments of chaos..
automated systems can be turned off
man imagine having horns blow when new shipments arrive-
'THE GOODS HAVE ARRIVED- ALL HAIL'
I think houses near race courses is the least we can be worried about—
apparently they didnt tho... as it was still on when eden went boom and there is only one dud in each race...
« oh gee there’s been a nuclear explosion, my first priority is gonna be turning off the automated horns in valley »
somehow I wouldn't put it past the Twins to make a spectacle out of everything- even shipments
no it would have been off at the time if it could be turned off or at least regularly turned off
how do you know that ? how do you know that it was off at the time of the eden explosion ?
because no one can come n turn them back on if they r all dead
I—
makes sense right?
that assumes everyone died when they were off
assuming they are automated, but can be turned off, they would have been on when everyone died
whatever tech the sky ppl use is durable that’s for sure
Did everyone actually die at once when it exploded though
like- halting the convo about the automated horns for a bit
Because I don't think everyone died at once when the explosion happened
All of Eden might have- but certainly not the entirety of the world of Sky, right?
I dunno- stupid question
Everyone was gradually dying and THEN the boom happened- that too-
Not dying..
gee i just survived a nuclear explosion my first priority is gonna be turning on the automated horns in valley
Uhhh being corrupted?
There was the weird dotty plague thing going on too-
do people really place priority over those automated horns- like come on man it might have doubled as some sort of PA system
Or warnings
Because THOSE are important in dire catastrophic times
haha morse code pa
I mean.. the doors, bridges and other mechanisms sorts of still work to this day
ye
they would have been on at the time of the explosion for warnings and PA
and "gee i just survived a nuclear explosion my first priority is gonna be turning on the automated horns in valley"
rlly?
I think the ancestors knew and were feeling the consequences of their actions
i sense a disturbance in the force...
And tried to repair it,, the enchantment people,,, but eden diamond said nah—
imagine having your PA system be comprised of celebratory horns and insane applause
plus fireworks
i still think the king blew up the eden diamond
But why
Is it always a summerlike season in Sky because time is kinda stopped?
Oooh ye I've thought about that too
oo
Has the daylight cycle always been static in the world of Sky
gee i wish there were a place high up in the air with scary crystals and high winds....
i would call it eden
W h y
also
👁️👄👁️
rhythm qg crying in the corner
Have I just been gone long enough that I can't tell if that was sarcasm or not-
I'm kinda lost too hhh
Anyway- so- time is funny in Sky-
We only see actual change in the Seasons in Homespace
Oh yeah— we do have seasons—
What the yeck
heck*
The ocean freezing over is observed only in homespace
Ooooooh ye
is what I meant-
You know, homespace is kind of a strange area
The rest of the world otherwise retains their climate
the other realms prob have elder magic to keep the realms to match the elders` personality
haha im a genius
lol
homespace is a normal place
unaffected by elder magic
Naaah,, that's what's make homespace weird
so maybe its the realms that r strange
really with regards to the rest of the world- Homespace is the abnormality
not the time or homespace
Since elders are in another realm somewhere different throughout space and time
Is homespace also the same kinda place? Not really where the elders are, but just somewhere in a different time somewhere in space?
nah
Think of it with regards to the rest of the world Pyre- Homespace is a tiny pocket of weird
has that ever actually been confirmed
oh boy
That's like.. OOB homespace
homespace lump is the opening cutscene island
but anyway we r sure time flows normally in sky
or maybe my device is just too clunky for this and you guys really see a disproportionately tiny island from Isle idk
Then I think my phone is as clunky as yours
In isle I just cr
respect dud
So I don't look at anthingy
If time flowed normally in Sky valley wouldn't be so snowy anymore what with the constant sunset beating down on it
Yeah ..
these my thoughts on time in sky
Time Loop Theory
#lore-discussion-spoilers message
Yoooo
it just looks like a sunset
plus it doesnt snow
its just cold
like... high mountains....
There's ice—
geography....
We have an ice rink
yes
It DOESN'T snow- but it doesn't change the fact that it's icy and it's covered in snow
himalayas.....
The himalayas does snow right......
thats artificial.... like the races.....
what makes you think the ice rink is artificial 
the boat?
the pillars too
pyre you said it yourself- geography
And there doesn't seem to be any mechanism around it?
Water freezes
It's just... There
but they carved the ice
it’s probably the remnants of a glacier that formed the races in the first place
If they carved the ice it wouldn't look so... jagged.
Oh my god I've been doing math subjects for the couple days lemme just .. make room for geography
they seem to have carved out a bit of the ice and put in pillars
The Himalayas is a good music band
Doesn't make it artificial
we DO see pillars in the ice rink
huh?
they build something during the warm season (things do melt, even on mountains)
cold season comes around, the ice freezes around the pillars
but there is no purpose for the pillars...
yes there is
How can snow be artificial
to hold up the building above them
Or the entirety of winter weather
the only thing they do is hold up the ice in the rick
rlly?
yes
yes
cooooooooool
Also why would the snow be artificial
why would they need pillars to hold up ice that seems to be 1ft thick anyways
Indeed
high places get snow like that
yes
snow and ice occur naturally at high altitudes
dud...
i was refuting this all this time
haha virdi lol
You didn't let me finish- I was going to inquire about something else concerning time
it would melt and re-freeze
ye
it wouldn’t be constantly frozen 24/7
the sunset is just a game mech
eh
i'm- I don't think we can dismiss that as mere game mech
the realm is literally based around sunsets
why would the main inspiration for the realm be a « game mech »
the realm was even originally called « sunset »
im pretty sure thats just a game mech too....tgc hates world events and it would make gameplay like races more complicated
i said that as if valley experienced seasons
but if this were tru the time zones dont add up
if valley had seasons it wouldn’t be frozen 24/7
no rlly each realm matches the elder`s personality... that cant be a coincidence...
they progress by time
you know that right ?
it isn't a coincidence it was literally ingrained in the game design
you go from dawn to day to rain to sunset to dusk to night to storm
yes but we can run thru it in 2 hours... so basically the size of all the realms would be a single state or summin... isle and forest cant be that far apart
there's prob a lot we can't access tho
that’s where the time loop/frozen time theory comes from, pyre
each realm is stuck in a certain time of day
thanks for the theory btw brick that was what I was looking for-
yes.... im saying its elder magic cuz darkness plants actually grow in different places each day...
cant be a time loop... can it?
the elders literally made the whole city...
Quick question- what things are we supposed to be dismissing as game mech and what aren't
there's very little confirmed lore, so it could be both, either, or neither, tbh
because I'm like 75% sure that the darkness plants and candle cakes being in different locations depending on the day is also just a mechanic
heya Wren
hi stranger~~~
isle is broken and aged
prairie is just. asleep
forest is still mourning her power diamond
valley. valley is valley. nuff said
wasteland leapt down once (1) and went oh megan ow my back
and vault seems in mourning too
i don’t think in this state they’d be able to maintain the time-freeze
what if megabird is
Wasteland Elder has developed scoliosis spread the word
that’s what i think
i think megabird has the world in a very complicated time loop/freeze/thing
And so Elders being in limbo- also causes the world to be in a similar state of stasis- did I get that right-
Isle of Dawn in perpetual dawn
in wh40k an emperor in a coma and failing life support runs an entire kingdom
in dirk gently project moloch does similar things...
why not in sky
?
is that like- Star Trek-
because sky isn’t dirk gently or wh40k ???
i don't know any dirks-

I don't know either reference 
how... wut the...
anyway- time freeze right-
im saying its not impossible
This turned to warhammer lore huh
it's not impossible, no
but is it the most likely explanation
u know warhammer!!!!! yay
No, actually. I do not
theory: the realms of Sky stay at the same time of day so Oreo is in perpetual sunshine
but the opening cutscene says a long TIME has passed.....
is oreo lore?
if we're getting into the really fun aspects of time looping, a long time can pass but the day itself loops
like you spend 10000 days but it's like reliving the same one

A long time has passed outside of the Kingdom itself being in stasis
if that makes sense
or that, yeah
we're brought into the loop
or spawned into the loop
That's what I'm kinda feeling is what's happening-
if the entire place had legit experienced the time passing and wasn’t in stasis, then it probably would have been far more destroyed than we see now
so many exciting possibilities 
The economy would die because candles would only be able to be lit once and melt to nothing.
TGC feed us more info pls 
ah, if only
so many dreadful possibilities... i personally dont like time loops...
I take it the Prophecy murals didn't give any info about timeline
what economy- are skids sophisticated enough to make an entire economy on their own-
Prophecy gave us a new beginning if that's what you meant-
scented candles and organ trade
well, it gave us an idea of what society was around and how the kingdom was made
candles dont melt in sky except for a few
o r g a n trade
h e a r t s
eye moisturizer trade
we live under a dictatorship of the spirits, skykids of the world unite !
[turns around and gives spirits candles]
I mean- it's a fair trade I think- we give them candles and they give us wigs
from beyond the grave
that they somehow have multiple copies of
moisturizer
ah
yes
is it confirmed that there aren't eyelids?
and also, consider this, they don't need eyelids
But why would they lick their eyes kzjxgdgxj
they sleep with both eyes open
do they have tongues to lick their eyes with
Do they have tongues...?
or- anything with-
EYE MOISTURIZER
from the look of their eyes, which seem to protrude from their face, it doesn’t seem they have eyelids
there’s no folds or anything
They don't even have visible mouths 
My god we're going into cursed territory now-
I don't think it would make sense for them to have mouths or noses
ah cursed lore chat hours- my favorite-
They don't even have skin
we see them farming...do they just...absorb their food ?
I think skids were made in all of the elders' image tbh
We know spirits can talk, since the ones in Office can-
H o w d o t h e y t a l k t h o -
Possibly, like skids absorb wl
as we all agreed a long time ago, they decompose food outside their bodies and absorb the protein
like fungi...
this makes a lotta sense right?
Telepathy maybe
what
what
what
when did we agree to that ???
Does that mean they secrete enzymes?
HUH
i thought we did....
i agreed to nothing-
digestive enzymes?
in a way
how did this happen
when did we get into this
wait when did you decide that spirits decompose things?
do you really wanna go back and look for that convo Wren this chat goes fast
Nah
I mean
yeah
i started this to distract everyone from the time loop theory lol
jkjkjk
:(
jk
Ight bro
:o
I'm... not sure that's a thing you can say so casually
it was accidental
if u wanna lets go back to time loops
bye brick!
Aight bye Brick
bye
Elders prob don't sleep
Elders probably absorb food.... Somehow
Economy, they just do
wait are we talking abt elders or ancestor spirits i'm confused
oh wait nvm
decomposition, trade spirit, eye moisturizer
what
And wait a sec doesn't PRAIRIE Elder sleep
but we dont see their eyes
Huh
Well wasn't that 'cause he lost his light?
i thought the faint dude just... passed away honestly
press F for Fainting Warrior
f
SHOOT HE DOES
And I mean- I can imagine they respond differently to losing their light
Like sleeping to regain his energy
or smthn along those lines
oh slumbering shipwright too
Wait in the prairie cutscene, when prairie elder wakes up.... Isnt he shown with eyelids? I probably am not remembering correctly
spirits r like us i think... eating.... cuz barbecrab
They have beds, so they gotta sleep-
Even though they're made of stone and can barely be qualified as a good bed-
Idk if we're really like the spirits since we're never shown eating
they r nt stone
just absorbing glowy bois
the statue by the catapult in gw actually has visible eyelids
No one said they were made of stone...
OH GOD THAT THING
THE EYE MAN
Yes
They sounded like stone-
Isn't that more of a bug
Cursed eye dude
they forage for mushrooms, grow crops, and grill crabs.... they do eat
We know that elders can blink though-
we do?
I wasn't arguing against Ancestors eating- just that skids don't
Huh
I mean is it a bug if you have visible eyelids
Vault elder-
ohyes skids dont eat
I meant a texture bug
ah
so I went through eden and ive been wondering: what is this building?
I can pull it up if ya'll need to examine that cursed thing
Top of the Eden castle
mutant?
I think the building is just.... What Eden once was
That's the Eden castle, kinda like the elder's statue rooms?
thats the castle
I think I dunno-
home of the eden elder
Also, sleeping with eyes open is possible, so maybe elders do sleep with eyes open. It may not be normal seeming to us, but maybe it's normal for them.
like fish
so they're like Gandalf- that's mildly terrifying
Wait what are we talking about again, spirits or elders-
Elders
spirits
Probably both
Three types of ppl
Well the Vault elder can close their eyes-
Just because they can doesn't mean they have to
I've skipped that cutscene too much to remember
I mean- I guess they don't need to sleep, usually?
I don't know- they've been powered by light so far so I guess having lost it Prairie Elder literally just flopped down and discovered he could sleep for the first time in his life
I remember all of the cutscenes-
EspeciallytheWastelandcutscene'causethefirsttimeIwatchedithescaredthelivingdaylightsouttame-
Wait
Doesn't vault elder look different from the other elders? Especially their eyes?
Couldn't rlly find a good picture
At all
But
I observed all I could and
Vault elder's eyes don't glow white and stuff compared to the others. She seems more.... Human like
Vault Elder has a noticeably lighter motif than the rest of them too- barely any black on them

Yeah she definitely blinks
yep
I-
man it'd be terrifying of the King really had only one eye and that was his gigantic laser one
I can't see whether the Forest elder has pupils or nah-
krill eye?
Oh ye they're kinda related-
it could just be their mask?
ye
Are they siblings I wonder
its the mask
They're stated to be related- in what way is never really explained
The king gives me Vaatu from LOK vibes
he gave me vader vibes......
That too
and grievous vibes
Basically the king is a villain like character
this child will make a fine addition to my collection
just Sauron vibes on my end don't mind me
Hear the Tragedy of Darth Plagueis the wise...
nah thats just eden
Lmao #sky-memes
Technically I guess? his morality varies from interpretation to interpretation
TAKE A SHOT EVERYONNEEE
But he's never portrayed as someone who was COMPLETELY good
already there...
again... ignore the meme part
I'm basing it off of what characters he seems to resemble
oh my god.
But I don't really have much opinion on him
nah he couldnt save others either....
at least to my knowledge no one's really come forth with a theory that suggests that the King was some holy holy monk
For all we know king could be a misunderstood anti hero that just made a really big mistake
Still you couldn't really call that someone firmly on the side of good
Indeed
And Pyre's is one of many
Well no one's really "good" or "bad" so like-
Indeed
He's not like krill at least where you can't draw a complete line of morality for them because you know
They're creatures
Ofc
I will probably later that's a lot of stuff
With the King he's just some vague overarching entity that's present SOMEWHERE
What's outside the kingdom of sky?
krill r just like sharks they have to eat
you know what that's a really good question-
Maybe some other kingdoms.
We see travelling spirits come from somewhere else-
Maybe a special event could be s h i p s landing on our shores-
It's almost like
Aliens come to visit the sky world
Rhythm troupe doesn't feel like a native group of people to the kingdom either
Birb tribe-
BIRB TRBE
aren't the Elders basically kind of aliens
ye
Huh, true-
They fell from the skies and started having sovereign over their realms
Sky be alien planet tho
ye
Aren't the classical spirits (for the lack of a better name) native?
To us it's alien yeah
come to think of it by that definition skids are definitely aliens if they fell the same way that first kid did in Isle
But we're leaving Earth out of this ofc
hMMMMMm
Yep
We come from the cosmos
we r like clones... artificially made....
by @heady sequoia
lmao
If, Pyre- if-
Oh n, I was reffering towards whats pas the ocean in isle
The Prophecy spirits are probably native-
ye
ye
ye
ye
ye
Kind of safe to assume that every vanilla spirit we relive is native to Sky
:(
:((
Y'mean a chain?
ye
the chain
ye
I am krill >:((
Fk.
r/youbrokethechain
back to lore
ye
ye
I uh- don't really like chains-
:((
Ok back to loring-
BACK TO LOREEEE
That's okay viridi
L O R E
lore
BEFORE ONE MORE GLASS
So the classic spirits are probably native-
ye
ANYWAY- Sanctuary spirits- definitely on vacation, probably not native
So uh
What are krill
that, wdk
What's past the oceans in isle
hhhh
Vacation spirits-
big scary burnt shrimp
?
ancestors are stars, right?
Burnt tempura you see in gw and eden
I thought spirits were just some ancestors
So they're not native-

Is there any lore on what exactly they are
Darkness I guess-
they r natural creatures
Other kingdoms where the ts come from!
NO WAY!
OTHER SKIDS TOO!
maybe one day we'll get too have a seperate game, to explore these kingdoms
shrimps, except their back are slightly straightened
War machines, maybe.
@undone fern I think it's just all theory based right now what they are
Definitely native, organic creatures-
Definitely not this tho
dark dragons
no. (confirmed)
Mm yeah-
but animals trained for war, yes
YE
YE
YE
At this point the line between canon and non-canon is. Difficult to see-
nooooooooooooooo
:((
Animals trained for war is a hard maybe
mhm
mhm
Mhm
mhm
Goodness
Because I still have my misgivings about the krill bowing down to pretty much anyone
and let's be careful not to turn this into a spam chat ok guys
Goodness sake I thought we stopped making chains-
Idk what to think of krill. Not enough information, only theories.
agree, they seem pretty feral
they feed on light
Krills might be pollution really angry pollution lol.
you think
angry pollution
They live off instinct for sure
yes
I have my misgivings about that too tho like- there can't have been that much pollution when Prophecy happened
oh u mean karen
true
And we see a krill depicted on the Prophecy murals
wait what
kareeeeeen
karen was there from the start
the krill
krills are most likely natural creatures, i don’t see why they wouldn’t be sentient to some degree
Karen the krill
karen is evil no question abt that
k a r e n
the massive krill
Evil is a strong word for something classified as a natural creature with no sense of morality
no
how does omega krill looke
karen is sentient
o
I agree with this to death
that’s literally just a scaled up image ??
OH MY GOD
So we have a Megabirb... and now we have a Megakrill?
I WANT TO SEE THAT INGAME :o
i can't tell if you're memeing this up but that one specific krill is probably a mere placeholder for every krill
trial mural
They are natural, maybe they were domesticated at first but then Peta came in and said no and accidentally made them angy
Guess so 
this doesn’t prove that krill is bigger than others, it’s just a scaled-up image
oopsies
The krill in the picture on the wall looks like a mother whale with its baby
i did the thing with the elder manta
There is a possibility of it being a "spirit" krill much like how there are spirit mantas
it’s an elder manta, not megamanta
oh no
cool!
are yall on about a GOD or just a REALLY BIG ANIMAL
Big chonky animal
I don't think so-
Since krills aren't creatures of light-
same thing in sky
there's your original image by the way
megan is god but megan krill is animal
megakrill
elder krill
They worship us???
no
King/Prince
how much of it is us is debatable-
Oh that's probably the Prince-
I mean the krill could have been light creatures at one point, give for take a few events
thats the prince
o
Mostly by virtue of Prince=us theory
no...? the elder manta isn’t a god, nor are the « elder jellies » in ascent

50 million pieces of the Prince-
rlly?
So when they see us, they go
Oh god prince but diffrent hair
same thing with ascension trigger
Idk what's happening in this discussion anymore
Prince with ponytail
me too
hair doesn’t have gender but that’s a topic for a different time
heck same
This happens often
yep
Chaos theory
I changed it
"oh god prince but different hair"
Ok let's gather out thoughts-
What even are we talking about rn-
When lore chat loses all of its braincells
lel
Uh- the dubious existence of Megakrill
About Krils
I have a headache but with no pain that's how I feel rn
Debating if Elder krill/Megakrill is real or not-
because it's extremely dubious
wh-
Ok so there isn't canon proof on whether it exists so-
Mega Spirit Krill God slayer Guts the sky kid
prince used to trigger ascension but now he`s in exile and the light creatures think we r the prince so now we trigger ascension
Sure, elder krill(s) probably exist
I only have half a braincell working.
oh uh ok then
cool
key word is probably
yup
ASCEND AND JOIN US
I love keywords they're important
help
I mean whales exist, or at least one. So maybe ya boy has a counterpart?
honestly i rlly doubt if megakrill as a god is a thing
in all the concepts, megabird was the sole god, connected to everything
an elder krill ? could be a possibility, but i doubt that krill in the fire trial mural is an elder krill since it just looks like a normal krill but bigger. usually elder creatures have something different about them other than just size
Yes. maybe its just krill but scary big
oooooh megan`s pet krill
The Shadows in The Trials seem to be trail exclusive tbh.
ok
I mean compare it to Megan who I still question the godhood of- worldly krill vs a gigantic vaguely bird-shaped lump of light
ok
it could also be the artstyle. Like sometimes some things can be drawn as big but in reality, it's small.
Or really small and very close
ye-
That's usually what I lean towards chesca
Prolly
Guys, micro Krill
micro krill?
that's regular real life krill
could be bigger to represent darkness as a concept
like « the prince driving away darkness with his light » kinda thing
Micro krill
Adorable. I want one as a pet.

Since it wasn't confirmed by the devs that Megan exists
cherry krill not mircro krill
Besides like-
The Prince was drawn significantly bigger than the elders-
Even though we're fairly sure that the Prince is way smaller-



