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a theory would be their deaths were related to the eden diamond potentially exploding
either an instantaneous death due to the force of the diamond or a gradual death due to corruption and dying resources
I mean it could be a thing that can happen everywhere like a virus to slowly kill them or a disaster that rapidly made ancestors go extinct or yeah dying resorces
I think they died in the eden explosion, but that's just my head canon
there isnt really a solid theory on their disappearances, is there?
If we know if they all died at the same time, or if they died one by one would narrow it down
But you do see a spirit in golden wasteland (scared refugee?) bracing for impact when a part of a building comes crashing down
there's no solid theory on anything in sky lore 
Gtg
i think mio made that theory of catapults being used on gw, there are holes in the clouds in the first area
it is most likely that there was something falling anyway on the spirit
i think mio made that theory of catapults being used on gw, there are holes in the clouds in the first area
Maybe they were trying to shoot down the krills. That might be why there aren't any there
that's possible though it raises a whole other can of worms with: are krills tangible or intangible beings?
but the general idea is that possibly an attack of sorts happened in gw? by krills/other ancestors/etc
Yeah I agree with the attack thing
yeah, and the sneaky survivor spirit in graveyard was also hiding from krills? it really could be that krills attacked 
Felt like a good place to share this.... the skulls in the wasteland graveyard are near identical to the water elders mask.
Another animal?
yes they are both based on turtles! not sure if they are the same species though
Maybe the mask is an ode to an existing animal from the age of the spirits
Also yeah there are wholes in the clouds in gw
But I had a theory that either forest or the king destroyed wasteland
I also think the krill's are there bc they like dark places for habitat, like eden and wasteland, the only places where there are almost no sign of light
Also, spirits lived a long time ago possibly the same time that that bird animal lived so maybe it was based off that animal
looks like a scholar statue to me 
Are skykids human sized?
So then elders are human sized?
I don't know if anyone has already covered this but Golden wasteland kinda looks like it’s been bombed tho
From all these holes on the ground
And if they really be dropping bomb on gw it kinda explains the holes in the clouds too I think 🤔
That's a good theory 
Anyone what creatures these are, are they the big fish we see in daylight prairies and eden
Those are whurtle (fan made name)
It's like a hybrid of whale and turtle
Notice the skull is more like a sea turtle's
And their body skeleton is similar with the whale's skeleton in forest

From all these holes on the ground
Oh yeah, even the one in the pic looks like a perfect circle
Wonder what they used to make the bombs? And it might tie in to the Eden explosion theory
And this mural from The Ark...
Ah I think that's just the enchantment ppl releasing the lights of the orb
Hmm I see
it's theorised that the lightseekers people were the first to discover the light orbs. then they passed on their knowledge of them to the enchantment gang (who could have been vault scholars), and the enchantment gang made them into elemental lights of different uses
lightseekers people being the ones with umbrellas in the ark murals
/i wish they where pickaxes
i was told to go here
so im looking for the website full of sky concept art
anybody have htat
aegh
hello! are the elder names official or fanmade? and which one is which?
They were originally canon, but they’re now theorized
Want the Elder names? You’re in luck! The letters in brackets are Hebrew letters, which the Elders are named after:
Isle: Daleth (ד)
Prairie: Ayin (ע)
Forest: Teth (ט)
Valley: Samekh (ס)
Wasteland: Tsadi (צ)
Vault: Lamed (ל)
Prince: Alef (א)
King: Resh (ר)
PLEASE NOTE: These names have appeared in concept art and are often used when referring to the elders. They are no longer canon, they are fanon.
thank you!
/ah
/i think that's more like fanlore
/we never got confirmation on the corrupt whale is krill i think
Looking at the concept arts make me feel like we're missing out a lot and I can feel my phone poofing out smoke simultaneously
I mean it’s like in one part of Chinese lore
if you mean the guang yu lore it might be different from our own sky lore. i don't know the extent of what netease has worked with from global lore and how much they might have changed but i'd rather be on the safe side and stick to what global sky has to offer 
Looking at the concept arts make me feel like we're missing out a lot and I can feel my phone poofing out smoke simultaneously
while it would have been cool to have what we could have gotten with the concept arts, there most likely have been changes that were done due to simply a change of mind instead of technical limitations.
i do like the vagueness of the lore we have rn, it's pretty much why we're very free to go wild with our imagination
i enjoy looking at different perspectives and theories
So much theories where do I start😍
It's crazy to think what eden was before this destruction
This looks like a fish 
ah that looks like one of those scholar(?) statues, it might have collapsed
#lore-discussion-spoilers message not very clear but these statues have the same face
Hi pals
good morni- oh of course it's eden today
/why are there so many vault scholars in eden
/we also see the statues on the way to orbit
Maybe someone who was close to the king.. or maybe that person helped most to build the diamond
deviants, maybe
yanno how they target capes and since most of the spirits wear capes- the krills were created by the deviants to fight against them or something
maybe the krills were created based on the whale thingy? since looking back at how much power it had when it ran in the building in orbit maybe they tried to use it against them for a war-?
and they target capes so there's a possibility the deviants were capeless and relied on the wind barriers the krills had
after some kind of war they released the krills to patrol for the spirits ajshjs like in eden where there were krills everywhere to prevent them from being rebirthed? and since dying in places other than eden and being rebirthed doesnt bring back yr own stars??-
idk this doesnt make sense what did i even wrote im 🏃
why would deviants have statues in eden 
usually a deviant under a monarchy would be someone going against the Crown, not someone honoured by it
whoops
/also, alot of ancestors didnt have capes
Imagine a season with a cutscene from when Eden was in one piece
i would literally faint if that happened
Just imagining that makes me giddy wha-
A Season which introduces a new place "the past eden" , i mean heaven-like beautiful eden, and told us the lore of how eden became hell
Wasn't there the story of the shaman and the then prince finding the darkstone in the forest
Maybe the shaman was the one depicted in the statue
I'm back what's happening
I think teth actually found out that light and darkeness can be combined and compressed together to form power diamonds. She must have tried doing it manually with her hammer and anvil. But then she told king, and they developed the thing more and formed a machine that can do that
i think the king stole teth's invention and that's why teth looked angry
copyright infringement (tho maybe teth didn't put copyright in the first place)
but yeah wolf i think along those lines too- king was somehow involved in the production of the diamonds
though imo teth wasn't on his side
A small cutscene of what Eden was like would make this whole chat collapse
I mean it's not hard to imagine what it looked like
Just valley but taller
Still be pretty cool though
But how the buildings looked like in color and without breaking-
I bet eden was a grey green
Just had this conversation with somebody...it hopefully fits better in lore than it does eden spoilers? Anyways...thoughts from all of you? Is there anything confirming or denying this?
MASSIVE KRILL
Just one massive krill. Maybe babies stay close to the parents, so while areas without the krill are nothing more than normal areas, places like GW and Eden ARE built on top of krill. Kind of like, well, if any of you know of Satellite City....wasn't there a settlement on top of Locket?
Imo that big diamond in eye of eden is just a giant powered diamond
And if you look carefully .. it's cracked
That's disappointing
BUT WHAT IF THAT DIAMOND IS HARVESTED FROM A GIANT KRILL
Well... All theories are welcome
THE BIGGEST SOURCE OF DARKNESS WITH TONS OF LIGHT POUR IN
We only saw diamonds are built by ancestors tho
That's what TGC wanted us to see

Yeahhhh
Cracked
Or, perhaps the krill aren't inherently biological? They were initially built/synthesized by the ancestors, and are powered by diamonds.
Perhaps once 'built', they were able to reproduce, and create the diamonds as a sort of brain.
The one in Eden could have been from the first, which died off or somethong
Or it's too big so it needed multiple pieces to construct
Yeah
Cracked
@hushed steeple ALSO HOW DID YOU GET THE PIC ITS SO COOL
Immortal glitch
mmmmm im in mood for lore right now but its kinda late here so im just gonna type it quick
I noticed this giant wall behind the wasteland temple
You should try to climb it
Its probably a place holder milan
what if current Skid are the 4th generation of Skid kind?
I can’t get there because of a wind wall
Alternative theory: what if krill form around power diamonds?
there is 3 type of statues in Eden. First, the statue with blue crystals jutting out from the bodies. Second, the bare statue that shattered by the wind when we approache them. These two statue kinds can be seen just before the point of no return cave. and the third are those statues afte rthe point of no return that have blue lines and we can save
It isn't farfetched to believe that they created the krill.
Yes, they're alive. But in todays age we can clone creatures and grow stuff through unnatural means.
hear me out, what if those statues are our predessor, generation of skids before us? If thats true, then we are the fourth generation.
Oh and i noticed that the Temple statues from wasteland got canons 🤔
The first generation of skid are those bare statues that shattered by the wind. Why did i assum them as the first? Well, you see, unlike two other statues, this one didnt have any mark on their bodies. no lines, no crack, just bare stones. and yet they shattered easily by the wind. its seems these bare statues already there for a long long time ago before us.
Before i continue, did you guys remember our soul colour? Blue. The other two statue kind have blue color, only the shattered statue that didnt have any marking on their bodies. It means these statues didnt have any souls remains in their stone bodies. that is why these statues shattered, just like our body after we lost all of our wls in eye of eden. Its seems the souls of these statues already gone from a long time ago, thats why im assuming they are the first generation of skids
second generation are the statues with blue crystals. this one is quite unique, because unlike the bare statues and the statues in eye of eden this one have blue crystals on their bodies. Some assuming these statues are beta (Lights Awaits) leftover. I myself theorizing this statues are the 2nd generation of skids.
How so? These blue crystals statues have the same shape with the statues in the eye of eden. But why they have blue crystals? for this one im assuming thos eblue crystals are their soul. Remember the colour of our soul? Blue. The crystals are blue too. Their souls got crystallized and stuck forever in their stone bodies. Some crystals are clearly jutting out from the statues, and im assuming it because their souls still trying to escape the stone body
Epic
lmaoo
also, these two kind of statues cant be saved and located outside the cave of point of no return. it seems these two generations cant reach Eye of Eden and failed their purpose
Moving on. Finally the last kind of statue which i assume as the third generation. These statues have blue lines on their bodies and located on eye of eden. The soul of these statues are also stuck in their stone bodies. Unlike the former two statues, we can save these statues by giving them winged lights
i believe our current skykid have the closest connection with the third generation, and we are created with the same feature like them. But we do have our own uniqueness unlike the third generation
Remember what happened after we died in eden? We went to some kind of limbo. We are capeless (wingless) here. There we find someone which looked like us (but shiny?), we comfort them and boom we get our cape and proceed to ascend to the orbit
In conclusion, what make us different from the former generations is we can save ourselves after death. We can find a way to ascend by ourselves, unlike those statues that need to be helped to ascend (by giving them WLs)
damn, nice picture you got there
Massive

i might gonna try that too with my friend someday xD thanks for telling me that

Do you guys see how in sky concept art there is always a small over looked figure. I call that person/elder the king. The king of Eden.
Sure but...yeah
That phrase sort of puts out of context who he rlly is
I generally call him the king
But if that’s ur head canon then yeah, go king of Eden
But I imagine that he reins over Eden, and was kinda shunned by the other elders
Ah I see
hello
He used to rule with the others, but his thoughts were clouded by darkness
hello there
If ur gonna type a full blown theory u should prolly put it all in one message so it won’t get interrupted
I acctually noticed the diamond shape on the staff.. so it would means that the warriors in wasteland are part of this kind of gang. Sorry for interrupt too
Long long ago, before there was children of the light, before there was only 6 elders, there were 7 elders. Isle, prairie, forest, two for valley, wasteland, and TWO vault elders! There was a forgotten king! He ruled along with the elder of vault. But as population grew, and wars began, there was a disagreement! The “king” broke away from the other elders, for darkness had clouded his vision. He tried to fight. He used krill, dark spirits, and darkness! But the elders and all on their side overpowered him, and drove him to Eden, where he was locked away and forced to stay. To this day, he sits in a crumbling palace in Eden. His face dark and brooding. He hates that the elders send children to save those who have failed. Okay. There you go. My king theory.
Oh nice theory
Thanks
Thanks for all of your lore threads, I'm still new here so I will just be a fan and admire all your lores since I'm not capable of thinking my own lore yet 😍😍😍❤️❤️❤️
By the way is it ok to ask why is the Eden mountain not visible in the Golden Wasteland, since it can be seen from Isle to Valley (eden looks close to valley) and from Golden Wasteland to Vault it's not visible anymore (since Vault is a tower like structure that leads up to Eden)
Here he is... the king
@lone bone I think it is like that because if the polluted clouds, that cover the view of anything that gives hope.
Thankyyy
Yes... but I believe that symbol represents the journey, the task at hand... the end... Eden. You see? When you call, what symbol is it that shows up?
this one!! I think that is because it means this is the way, fallow the path to Eden
Then it would make sense that he was the king
It's also named as our inner light
Hello 👀
The king calls us to him, trying to kill us with everything he’s got!! But why do we succeed?? Because of our pure light!
I don't know if someone has said this,but I'm gonna throw it out anyways
The friends constalation? I think it's Eden's,because it's close to the door to get there
I'm not sure if it is 👀
Interesting theory
yes, thé friend constellation is the same constellation as eden
it was intended to be a 1:1 recréation like the eden constellation in the vault cutscene, but it had to be changed slightly for spacing
Mmmm
also do y’all wanna know a fun fact about the 8 pointed star

Yesss
Sure
in islam, it’s known as The Prophet’s Symbol
Maybe one day I can be a prophet too! 
That's so cool ❤️

im pretty sure the prophet it’s associated with is Mohamed, but i’ll have to do some more digging


well it’s drawn differently
it’s two squares overlapping
not the exact same as the prophecy symbol
Ooohhh 😳
David’s star kinda?
david’s star is 2 triangles IIRC
That’s what it remained me of
Emmm as I know the symbol usually used is crescent moon and star
The eight pointed star appears in spiritual traditions from many different cultures across the globe. The eight pointed star began to appear in Islamic art in the Middle Ages. It is referred to as khatim or khatim-sulayman, meaning “seal of the prophets”. ... These stars are known to denote life, from birth to death.
this is what i found
Oh I don't know if it was already discussed here but, has anybody tried to make a lore out of the white dead bird in the Valley before entering the Flying/butterfly race near the citadel entrance ? Sorry for the sudden irrelevant questions😳🥺
Yeah that nice big looking berb
Hmmm never seen it before > this is what i found 
@lethal stump
Anyway kinda...... Fusion thingy
I have something to say
Ooohhh a chubby manta 😳
Plese
Okay I'm amazed with the 8 star fun fact
How did the krill get on office?
office isnt really lore related
Well this is Halloween
it’s an easter egg
Well,yeah
Yeah for the Days of Mischief event 😂
Yea
Pure imagination has it answer
In da world of puraa imaginatiooonn
Pura imaginación 😌👌
Ouh thank you for that correcion
Haha no problem
Anyway David star is related here?
Probably but it is drawn differently
I love the fact that it represents birth to death ❤️
Never seen it before with that circle in da middle

Usually only some lines
No circle
Let me read it carefully
Okay from birth to death....
That's a new knowledge
ENLIGHTENED 

Okay how about that circle meaning?
It's the moon I guess
I-
well
any.. theories_
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?
sorry, english keyboard
Oh I don't know if it was already discussed here but, has anybody tried to make a lore out of the white dead bird in the Valley before entering the Flying/butterfly race near the citadel entrance ? Sorry for the sudden irrelevant questions😳🥺
OOp, i've though it was a snow turtle
Hey do you guys noticed that the praire elder created a butterfly out of fire?
Hey do you guys noticed that the praire elder created a butterfly out of fire?
Light*
Wouldn’t that mean that elders created light creatures
@kind musk. (☞ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)☞ I gotchu. The mother bird on the block at the entrance of Valley citadel was put there by the Manta Whisperer when it was slain in battle with the hopes of calling on one of the enchanters to resurrecting it. But alas, they were defeated and we can bring the mother of birds back by achieving an unknown goal.
The thing we gave to him kinda looked like fire? @kind musk
- to resurrect it
Fire = light = energy = gifts to spirits
Is what i think, you can think that is just fire eh!
Some people wrote that the elders sucked the light out from light creatures
But I think they just used normal light 
Why should they harm the creatures they made
،
Harm? well, uh
Hellooooo, I have not been in this channel in forever.
What lore are we discussing now
If the pots transports butterflies (Basically light) the spirits in prairie were just, transporting light, which makes sense cause the forest maybe needed light 
Hi there Lilly!! We're discussing about the butterflies, light, flames and Ayin
A wonderful collection of things to be discussing
Oh yes, that's correct!
Feel free to scroll up and read all at detail 
Share your thoughts!
Well, I think you guys covered most of it 
But I remember something I brought up once and didn't get discussed very much
Tell us
I'm still curious about Citadel
Out of all of Sky, there's not one other complete area that recharges your light, compared to candles and lanterns and whatnot
But they have those rotating thingies (I don't know the word for em) that I assume recharge your light
But how exactly does that work? There's no visible source.
And besides, why Valley? It's one of the least corrupted realms.
Gyroscopes?
Or something like it
Me too 
Also, don't forget orbit, it recharges your light even if you're flying
But orbit is logic
Yes
That's basically where ALL the light is so that makes sense
I just don't get why Citadel 
Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but
Also, remember what Valley is one of the most developed realms about civilization, also one of the realms with more capes available, i think they needed it
More talking about citadel, cause is that, a CITADEL
Pffft, true
I just don't get how the gyroscopes channel the light, is all
Does it reflect the sun?? Megan????
Maybe, also i've thoughted what were the birbs, but there aren't birbs in all the citadel
Also, is just beyond the citadel gate
definitely the gyroscopes
there are birds in citadel
Yes but not in all the citadel
Those are armillary spheres btw
and even if you aren't near birds you recharge the light
what, do you expect the place to be nothing but birds 
Thank you frying pan for helping us English
Also, hello Brick
and Frying Pan
He's asking why do we recharge in citadel brick
im guessing something to do with the updraft
Those are armillary spheres btw
OOh okay thanksyou
Ahm, there are similar updrafts in cave of Prophecies too
yes, related to the air element, which we see being given to the twins 
Aah talking about the cave of prophecies, let me search an image...
I mean it's just that we call them 'armillary spheres'
We don't know if their Actual function is what an armillary sphere's is
I'm pretty sure the armillary spheres have something to do with the recharge, I'm just not sure how, or why they reach such a large area. That's all
it’s highly probable they’re armillary spheres, theyre 1:1 reconstructions
Are those Mantas there on purpose near teth in the 2nd mural?
If the pots transports butterflies (Basically light) the spirits in prairie were just, transporting light, which makes sense cause the forest maybe needed light
@kind musk idk I saw concepts of light creatures trapped in cages

Is that mountain supposed to be Eden? I mean, we should see that weird thing in the top but, the cave of prophecies is really ancient as the prophets, as the elders maybe! Maybe that thing didn't existed in those times, it would fit with the eden explosion theory, and, i'm not sure, but with the king maybe? There are constructions in our ascend to orbit, the eden explosion (which makes everything really corrupted) corrupt some of those structures and one ascended to the top of the eden mountain.. what you guys think?
No I don't think so
i...dont think i understand what you’re trying to say
I don't understanted myself after reading it at detail
Lol
Just nvm all the another. That mountain is supposed to be eden?
I don't want to spoiler
In this channel you can talk even about office without spoiler 😉
@supple wagon thats beta content, please remove it
Fire trial stuff isn't allowed until it comes out
Hey hey heeeeeey, the fire trial wasn't was released yet!
Conversations, pics, and videos about the beta are spoilers
Please keep them in #beta-discussion or #beta-screenshots-videos.
I mean in the case of the mountain there aren't really any other mountains except for the one eden is on
Yep, that's true
Aren't there mountains around?
there are some in valley, but the biggest, major mountain is the eden mountain
The mountains in valley are like hills compared to eden
The highest mountain
definitely eden
but what i was trying to say, why we don't see that thing in the top of the mountain?
what thing
That kind of castle, uhh
Black weird thing
have his own oob
Let me see if i found something in the wiki
!wiki
I think is this one thing, something similar im not sure
Oh
But is in the top of the mountain
The peak of the eden castle
I thought you meant the floating castle remains in space
That's whats in the picture
Idk
It looks more on the mountain than in space
You can see it after eden and in the vault mural
Well most likely cause eden wasn't destroyed yet
And also they only include one temple
The murals lack any other notable landmarks
I just don’t know what to say.
Exactly
Although, that screenshot above, I thought that castle was what we went into while we were ascending.
Could our ancestors fly? Like the spirits and elders?
Do u ever see them fly?
hey, not sure if this is a real thing, but is there something called a mega bird in orbit or something?
and is it this possibly? (screenshot from @west stag
)
@sleek shore yep, it’s commonly believed that’s megabird ^^
ohh wow! thanks, super cool 
do random pillars appear in sky?
tvtropes lists the orbit as a gainax ending and that frustrates me, but sorting through my thoughts i am just bewildered.
is orbit a cryptic ending that happened out of the blue whose the only reason is “yeah that just happened”?
the office’s poster lists the orbit as symbolizing the afterlife. the music and visual agree that, after the burden, the wrath from krills and stones and wind, the painstaking sacrifice, after the limbo with shiny boi, the ascending journey feels commonly peaceful and relief, free from the long plight of death and into this ethereal state beyond. it is the exhale after a long time of work, although megabird might be a kind of jerk who created this as part of a ploy to grow her hivemind.
it is a critical element symbolizing the afterlife and everything peaceful after death. lore-wise, it shows the cycle of life and reveals potentially vital information about the life source that sustains skykids, elders, light creatures, and ancestor spirits, and heck even the entire sky-verse. it potentially reveals what skykids are really made of exactly because they have the ability to fly upward beyond human capability into space, that they may not be human after all but connected more closely than we thought to their creator.
not to mention sky repeatedly hints, and hints the detached castle above a mountain rained with thunder in the distance for every realm, and flying to the orbit we finally see it up and close.
but for some, orbit is instead a surreal ending for no reason other than to look breathtaking.
gotta poof to do my hw
My God you deserve some short of trophy for this..
Valley elder(s) are Samekh right?
I accidentally popped into this chat and saw the mega bird screenshot. Is it known what a mega bird is in the game?
Megabird is its own big rabbit hole that I have yet to fall down
Oh wow
I always saw the mega bird in orbit but thought it was just coincidentally aligned like that lol
I always thought orbit was more like a sort of heaven, before rebirth. For the real people and spirits, they dwell in some sort of limbo between life and death, and can have some of their more prominent memories relieved as sky kids adventure. It is hard to see much about it, but I’ve always imagined it as something the elders have modified in their deaths so that it could be amazing. Truthfully, I don’t think tgc thought too much about what they were doing while making it beautiful, just deciding that this heaven would be amazing and that the players needed a treat after Eden (which is amazing, it’s just, you know, you die). It is commonly accepted that the afterlife is very beautiful and amazing (for those who were good at least) and this probably played into that. They took a lot of space elements into affect here, regarding the earlier idea that sky kids are stars and that this society fell from such, and it is also accepted that space can be incredibly beautiful, and that the constellations and patterns are breathtaking. Seeing as orbit is in space, tgc overly used that idea and now we see this amazing space. I don’t think there’s really any questions to why it’s beautifully other than it being a form of heaven, it being in space, and tgc probably thinking this is our last hurrah, let’s make this place epic, and possibly because they wanted to show off after Eden.
Valley elder(s) are Samekh right?
@real tendon if you’re asking for their names, the elders aren’t given any. Otherwise i am confused. Sorry
They’ve got fanon names that I can never remember
Also what happened to bricky? I haven’t seen him in a while 
I’ve heard them called something along the lines of samekh, otherwise it really depends you ask because you get things like kakashi (don’t know if that’s right) and Dora for their hair
No idea what you’re talking about sorry
their fanon names are Samekh. they share a name, and all elders including their names are based on hebrew letters
daleth and alef are fan given names, so more fanon than fanon. although they are hebrew letters, daleth is name of isle elder, alef is the prince thats not physically present in the game. so the two names are falsely attributed to the twins.
kakashi and dora are just names based on physical characteristics
You just said a whole bunch of words and I swear I understood nothing. But I think I understand you mean that they have names that are given by y’all based on lore and stuff and then there are names given by the members of the server who don’t care as much about the minor details and give names that make more sense to them, like calling the vault elder something that makes no sense as a name but does make sense based on the hair
how old would the creatures, elders, spirits, and skychildren be in sky?
skychildren are stars, so they have been alive for god knows long (and given the gift of life when being "born")
since basic creatures like oreo are canon, how would that work with them?
or, butterflies
since they seem to be alive for alot longer then irl butterflies
guys i think we need to do the height again for the lore doc
What's
height for the elders
well at start height skids are about 3’2
JESUS THAT'S SHORT
lol
m a l e
STILL
BRUH IM 5’0
:0
I’ll never complain about being 5’4” again
ok back to lore :DD
ok
There’s a lore document?
ye pins
words??
i mean
they can make sigh noises and snore
and heartbeat
...and honk.
but other then that, do they just
_ _?
birbs:chirp
skids:honk
sky kid for short
THEY HONK
but MAKE NOISES
yes
Dogs bark. Sky kids honk
i mean they do enfasize the mouth bit when doing the shiver lvl3 emote and the shhhh emote
oh truer
and sshhh is made with vocal noises
so THEY can speak???
but like moti-
well
i think?
NO
Hi
THAT NOT CANAON
skids are a different species from the spirits i think
they jusr
PFFT
well, this is more of a “personal thought,” but maybe if a skykid acquires enough emotes with vocal sounds, they can train themselves to speak through practice (don’t krill me I tried
)
WAIT
I just started this game
NO NO YOUVE GOT A POINT
THAT MAKES SENSE
skids are a different species from the spirits i think
@fast jasper possibly one of the spirits from the last season , sanctuary, was a sky kid, the one who celebrates
aa
wait i forgot what they look like
Are you two ok? This is how I feel sometimes, but you guys seem very hyper
Yeah manta suit
got temp banned twi times for that
i can neither confirm nor deny the information
i'm trying to not be spammy, if i am, please tell me
You’re not, im just worried y’all are on sugar crashes
ohhh i think manta suit is a young dude or just short
yeah
so the twins are the same height with teth being about the same height but a bit taller
lamed is a tiny bit shorter than the twins
hey guys i'm allowed to use small gifs in chat
idk
tsadi is like 2 feet taller than them and ayin is a bit short, daleth is the same height
who are these people
the names are from the elder concept art
i just call them isle, prairie, forest, valley one & two, wasteland, and vault
Isle: Daleth (ד)
Prairie: Ayin (ע)
Forest: Teth (ט)
Valley: Samekh (ס)
Wasteland: Tsadi (צ)
Vault: Lamed (ל)
Prince: Alef (א)
King: Resh (ר)
PLEASE NOTE: These names have appeared in concept art and are often used when referring to the elders. They are no longer canon, they are fanon.
yea there just fanon
also
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YES
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Not so much as lore as much as it just occurred to me as a sad thought. But do yall ever think about the fact that the spirits at the Ark never got to return home? Not even their own magic could solve the waste that was left behind in that realm, but they did the best they could with what they had and drew whatever memories they had across the only boat that stayed intact. But I wonder if any of them ever stood where I stood, looking at the krill that struck down their boats and wondering if they would ever return to their true home.
Even more sad for yall
NO PLEA
Depression
heart: broken
mood: sad
hotel: trivago
I've heard theres an elders temple?
like all of the elders?
Yes
Idk
I also feel bad for the spirit in the sanctuary islands
the spirits at sanc are just vibin hard man
They weren't the only spirits that had boats. We see the other boats that were broken and the pieces that washed up across the sand, and the krill that killed the others still roams the skies amongst the mountains. And unlike us who can relieve memories, fly pass the krill and return within the boat. The spirits never saw their friends again, and even in the caves they drew their experiences and their memories. However, each of them died one by one surrounded with no one but each other and with no other magic than what they had. Forever stranded on the land that is now nicknamed The Forgotten Ark, but it wasn't the ark that was forgotten. But instead, the citizens who were just trying to find new land to set up their shops
Yeah they get to chill
an escape from Civilization? Hell yeah
i'm gonna paste sumn real quick, i'll delete it
They weren't the only spirits that had boats. We see the other boats that were broken and the pieces that washed up across the sand, and the krill that killed the others still roams the skies amongst the mountains. And unlike us who can relieve memories, fly pass the krill and return within the boat. The spirits never saw their friends again, and even in the caves they drew their experiences and their memories. However, each of them died one by one surrounded with no one but each other and with no other magic than what they had. Forever stranded on the land that is now nicknamed The Forgotten Ark, but it wasn't the ark that was forgotten. But instead, the citizens who were just trying to find new land to set up their shops
@stark oracle goodbye, I shall now sit in the corner and cry
Nice and um sorry guys for le depression, I was just star hunting and the thought occurred to me as I stood there in the sand looking at the krill
It’s no prob. But ur a big thinker aren’t you?
Ye lol if you look at other theories I've posted, they follow the same vibe as depression hours
Like my theory with one of the spirits in wasteland haha
i like depressing theories
Or even this pic i got with the boat, I wonder if they set it up that way because it reminded them of how they would set up everywhere else whenever they would travel. With the colors, the memories, the spells the lights. I wonder if they tried to set it up as much as a normal way as they could, as though reminding each other that they're still spellcasters. They're still friends, family and they're not just ppl who were forgotten and left to die in an area no one even knows about
Not so much as lore as much as it just occurred to me as a sad thought. But do yall ever think about the fact that the spirits at the Ark never got to return home? Not even their own magic could solve the waste that was left behind in that realm, but they did the best they could with what they had and drew whatever memories they had across the only boat that stayed intact. But I wonder if any of them ever stood where I stood, looking at the krill that struck down their boats and wondering if they would ever return to their true home.
Marz#2030 someone pls put that in tearjerker page
@sinful anvil hehe
ngl i wonder who found the area and just return back to GW with a flying boat and left it there
@livid valley who found the bodies
they died unaware of a future generation coming back to repopulate the ark. i have mixed feelings about this, because this is just like van gough dying in his time without knowing his art will be renowned far in the future, but time is a funny thing — the future came. it was long, but we came. we eventually discovered this thing. the treasure is abandoned but still recognized. and for skykids who choose to restore the ark they can see what a valuable decision they have made.
its hard to put into words for me, because to be recognized not in your time is kind of painful.
@sinful anvil wow high five for being depresso
maybe the ark needs a whole dissertation in itself about people or objects that are condemned or neglected in their own time, only to be renowned in the extreme eons later
like, that theme sometimes haunts me
Well there's one thing we can be happy about
The spirits in the ark didn't have to suffer the effects of the downfall of GW, and their home
oh yay
Well wait another sad thought just occurred to me
listen another fridge brilliance by tgc: why is season of enchantment left in sky? on one hand it was the first time tgc uses this feature, but on the other hand mr enchantment cant “get over it” until you restore the ark
uhh just realized thats kinda off
If they didn't suffer the effects and were stuck in the ark, then they most likely didn't know that the world they knew fell into ruin. The friends they thought that forgot about them probably didn't, but instead were killed in the Fall before they could even go and look for them. So it's not that the spirits in Ark were forgotten, the ppl who were supposed to look for them were dead
Haha.... I'm sad again yall
that kinda parallels with some novels im made to read in elementary/middle school
some castaway tropes going back to find their main home destroyed or stuff
who is the person who just randomly left a boat which leads to the ark
Who knows, but anyways im done talking for today yall so see ya 🤪
mb that boat is a rescue boat which never started during ancestor’s time?
Two cents I have on butterflies I wanted to ask about
Butterflies seem to be very peaceful creatures that exist, although seeing as they are some of the only creatures in sky, it is very possible prairie elder or someone before him/her/them created them for strategic use. They are yellow/white/gold because they are made of pure light. Sky kids can harvest light from them simply because they radiate it from themselves simply because of how they are made up. When sky kids use the emote, butterfly’s are called to them in the same way a bird is called to a human. They choose to go to them and be held by them. They turn pink as a result of the sky kids energy flowing through them. When they are placed in jars, they most likely hibernate until released. The jars are of course placed in the right spots for people to use them. When a sky kid calls them/deep calls, they swarm the sky kids and help them fly, and I’m not sure why other then because they enjoy the idea of doing so and because they are trained to respond to a call in such a way.
just came up w this on the fly but the ark crew went away and never come back, so a separate team are assembled and assigned this boat skykids later use. then the dark dragons attacked so the team had no time to use the boat, so it just perched
It might have been a supply boat, like ark was setting out and doing what ark does which is probably delivering light and that boat was used to collect red light from that area? I’m not sure
didnt like all of the spirits died before even Skids even came(imo)
I think that skykids were created by the elders after the storm destroyed all the spirits as a sort of last resort, but I could be wrong
I think that’s it too but I don’t now
i think Skids were made by Megan and was send to help out to fix the world
technically, the world is already destroyed and broken
We were jus sent to help save the elders 
and spirits
yes
So, eden is actually a castle that was built on top of a volcano
And the orbit is the lasts of it (the castle)
Eden is also the highest point in Sky kingdom, the stars couldn't just fly from isle or valley, and this is why stars are stuck there
Other thing is, where are the elders? They most likely died in volcano eruption, as there could heve been a meeting of elders there
i mean eden is indeed the highest point in the sky kingdom
we can clearly see how high the eden mountain is even from valley
isnt elders confirmed to be stuck on their own limbos? idk
stuck might be not a good word choice here
reside
Maybe, im for now keeping it that they died
And yes, they could just rebirth, but their ash bodies got destroyed or lost somewhere in the ruins
the elder cutscenes take place outside time and space
that’s all we know for sure
Just like the trials
And Brick's "Curved time" theory
Also what is that laser shooting out of eden
I have no idea, but it could be light
Back to elder cutscene thing it could be the kids imagination
Ok, but why?
And Brick's "Curved time" theory
@hushed steeple it’s not a theory, it was indeed confirmed that their cutscenes take place outside of space and time. 🍴
My question is
Why do u think it’s a volcano?
What defines a volcano 🤔
Whole place in ruins, chaos, and that reddish thing that shoots out stuff most likely would be it
No
And the whole kingdom is in ruin bc of this volcano? 🤔
Interesting
Haven’t heard ur theory before
Ahh
All theories are welcome 
im confused
Cuz warm stuff = gud
Volcano: boom
Also, yes power
Bruh
King: Geysers!!
But let me say it, they didn't thought it would explode
only shoot rocks?
Fake volcano
What?
Maybe they wanted it to explode? To harness all dat raw power.
Maybe
im confused again
Fun fact: the eden mountain isn't a volcano
Bruh
according to the concept arts, it's a beacon built or made by the megabird
it served as a sort of waypoint to aid light creatures in their rebirth cycle
maybe.
Perhaps
The king built a diamond on top of the beacon
Rawer power?
which probably inhibited the rebirth cycle 
diamond is not raw power
Uncultured/fresh then?
So that's why they built it near a volcano
Bruh
Ok but why stars come back to eden every week, like c'mon, stay there in da light
Or it’s the sacrifice thing
sounds like a chaotic hide and seek
Maybe they instinctually do that
Maybe
Hey what if they were conditioned into dying willingly by the king?
So he could get all the energy
That's smart
there was a theory that there is a First version of the Skids which cant reborn and was stuck there(i hope i remembered it correctly)
ok
But anyway, there are 7 parts of sky kingdom, and there are 7 days in a week
So you should do 1 part everday
Or don't
The prophecy cave murals really creep me out. The ones showing each challenge.
candle running: am i a joke to you?
They remind me of a horror story I used to read
Heh
Oh no
Okay so I was at sanc islands,, doing and minding my own business,, and then uhm,, what is this,,,,
What happened to the statue 
Kinda noticed about the boat in Sanctuary... Maybe the Sanctuary spirits came here in a boat to escape the harsh reality..
I mean it is,,
I've been thinking,, is the homespace the same groundlevel as the sanc islands??
It looks like it could possibly be..
Sanctuary Islands are not on the sky, meaning that if we fall down, there’s gonna be just sea..
I wasn’t talking to you sowwy
who’s pointy hair dude here??? kinda makes me think of the rhythm elder, but i wasn’t around then, so i don’t know how they tie into the plot 
tru!!
imagine the dance leader use elements
Like,, this
Maybe,,,,,,
I'm an artist I swear
Isle is... Bruh idk,, somewhere dkksksksks
Wait hold up I remember someone posting a pic uhhh
isnt eden like the sifon or who ever you spell it to hav light creatures return to the Light?
Sifon,, siphon?? As in the ones that u use in aquariums???????????
I have a theory that maybe the mantas were also created/bread and also have a power diamond (though it is not corrupted like the krills)
I couldn't get a good picture of a krill's light though
that fits with the theory of eden and the wasteland being corrupted by the use of power diamonds!! you don’t see any mantas in eden (besides when they fly up to orbit), and the only one in wasteland (that i remember
) is the one that’s killed by the krill. maybe the one manta in wasteland is a metaphor for some sort of resistance that was ultimately snuffed out in wasteland?
but that also begs the question as to why the other realms weren’t corrupted if they also had some power diamond use 
I also have some evidence that supports my claim that krills were created to guard something or other in Eden and were originally creatures of light that got corrupted. On the wiki page about creatures, I was looking at the crabs section. It says at the bottom, "Note: There is a special variant of uncorrupted crab found in the secret area and a remote archipelago in Sanctuary Island which are harmless and simply roam around. These crabs do not have dark dust falling off them." So that means that crabs were corrupted and are actually not dark creatures. But krill also have the dark dust, showing that they are corrupted too.
@tight sable
remember people cut down trees in forest
it makes the forest rain
from chinese lore
Tgc creates a game. Doesn’t overthink it, just puts down whatever random crap they want.
Us: the exact amount of pixels in this rock means that eden was truly a bomb waiting to destro everything, and perhaps the krill were invented to protect the bomb from setting off!!
Oof
nah games like this do need story or the game won't be fun
Yeah I know, and I fully appreciate it, but sometimes it amazes me what people can come up with
... I mean TGC have multiple iterations of lore, including one scrapped for technichal reasons where we fight the king
but the twins having prosthetics theory could 100% be that
but krill and the fish do look alike
what would boss fight w the king be like
i like the theory better tho. You should see some of the arms people come up with
PAIN, Eye. It's PAIN.
We probably will get a taste in the fire trial tbh
btw that
I think fish and krill is the same creature just that krill got corrupted bc of spirits
Eye, here's a concept image for the battle #lore-discussion-spoilers message
spirits are cutting down trees
it makes fish got corrupted then turned to krill..?
maybe crab got same situation
that
is why they attack I guess?
krill is just a community name keep in mind
Wait, if the dark dust corrupted both the crabs and the krill, what happens if too much gets on a skykid-
guys from prosthetic arm designs, do u think the twins stashed a variety of arms for the heck of it?
That does not eliminate the possibility of Krill being aquatic creatures. In fact, being aquatic would explain how they could get away with the blue search light
The answer I have for you is no, but not because they wouldn't (they so would), but because I think they keep having to replace their arms cause they break them.
Cause they are sports.
i keep imagine twins looking at their arms n go “hehe twig go snap”
so there is a chance that krill is fish?
valley got some wacky architecture
not a fish... more like a shrimp
a flying shrimp
for fans of dark creatures
ok
imma continue translating chinese lore for yall
the one I made is just part one of Isle of Dawn

I translated chinese lore https://youtu.be/XDJS9E2HC8E
@tight sable It's here if you're wondering
i just joined this can i get a recap or smthn .-.
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From brick
This is a beginner's documents to know the basic lore.
If this is the kind of recap you're talking about.
thanks :D
Maybe twins have saw arms ror the heck of it
Eye, here's a concept image for the battle #lore-discussion-spoilers message
@short owl was this one of the concepts for the eye
they have prosthetics so when they argue they can beat each other with their own arms and go “STOP HITTING YOURSELF!!!! STOP HITTING YOURSELF!!!!!!”
what’s the tea today lore skids 
If so, thamk god they scrapped it because if it did get through I'll never go in, ever
Can someone pls enlighten me with the twins having prosthetics theory
i haven't really seen/don't remember explanations for why they may have prosthetics but one theory would be that the twins lost their arm (and maybe eye) in battle
for me i'd like to think that megan gave them one functioning eye/arm each so that they could work together better, twins look like they'd fight a lot ngl 
i mean the one soul two bodies theory kinda explains it
i need to be reading a book for my ap class but im just losing my mind over that concept for a battle with the king... LIKE.... I JUST.... MAN......
thank megan sky exists so i can focus on something besides reality for a bit 
they kinda remind me of romulus and remus, but that’s just a stretch my brain likes to make 
didnt romulus and remus end up trying to kill each other
also itd make sense for the twins to have tried to challenge the king since valley of TRIUMPH's whole thing is competition and fighting and stuff
The whole theory is literally just because the twins have a suspiciously lumpy arm and a missing eye
yes.
If you go oob, you see that the twins have lumps on their (dominant? Certainly paddle weilding) arms
The whole theory is literally just because the twins have a suspiciously lumpy arm and a missing eye
Oh?? I never noticed![]()
If you go oob, you see that the twins have lumps on their (dominant? Certainly paddle weilding) arms
which oob? Arena or the vault?
They have a lumpy arm on the side where they are missing an eye
So uh... We went wild. Could it be muscles or rings on their arms? Well yes. But it's more fun to think they have prosthetic arms. Also more fun to imagine Teth charges the twins, and whenever the twins can't pay, they get some low quality one without fingers.
uve lost ur thumb privilages for today
Avi suggested a hook
missed opportunity
I looked back to my old oob pics and I DID notice the one eye but not the arm thing (I'll go to the vault oob later maybe to check) but
The eyes..
Maybe they've always been that way?
If you look at the statues in the vault/eden shrine
that seems kinda unlikely that they were just born with it
is the king/prince confirmed "on our side btw" bc it kinda seems like they mightve possibly gone corrupt and some weird stuff happened then (all the spirit things in eden kinda look like theyre bowing to the castle)
Hey guys I noticed something
o
diamonds? (from what ive seen these are important?)
half black half white is prob important (vaults full of philosophers soo)
like some sort of symbolic commentary on the diamonds' power
I've heard somewhere there's an Eden Elder, or I'm mistaken?
Yep, or at least there was. He was also the king
according to one of the livestreams you can't save the eden elder anymore because "there's nothing left to be saved"
eden elder is believed to be the king, yes
That's tragic
nice
aw man
I mean, I assume all the elders were in their respective realms when/if the diamond in Eden exploded
So logically the Eden elder being in Eden would go kaboom with it 
My typing sucks
What even was Eden before and how did it become into such utter chaos
Actually can anyone pass me the story or theories for them
I never really paid attention to the Elders or the story much before but somehow I want to learn about a l l of them now
There are pins with documents filled with theories and canon stuff!
Thanks!
good luck trying to learn all of them
ngl tho, this symbol looks like a halo
also its the same symbol with this spinny thing underneath office portal
which looks like my pfp but more simple
just noticed that along the wall of valley temple theres tombstones, its painted with gold too. is the temple some sort of a cemetery for the champions of the past..
Those are tombstones, yes
I guess those are placed there as rememberance or some sort of it
Might be for the past champions
probably
it does make sense though
yea
found more tombs.
are the statues at the end of every maps a headstone? or just statue..
because many people reffered to elder statue as gravestone..
ngl tho, this symbol looks like a halo
@bitter shale it looks like the thing around the person's head when you just start the game,, the one which says something among the lines of when the stars were united our light was infinite or some
yea
yup
Might be
Since unlike other realms, GW and Eden are dominated by darkness
And the most destructed as well
Isn't it the symbol for fallen stars?
Idk I always thought it is
They are indeed the symbols of fallen stars
hey i am unsure if this is the correct chat but can someone tell me the names of the elders? or at least what they were considered to be called in the concept art? thank you 
the stars fell ... so the prince didnt fall because he is not a star? i love applemeat’s theory that he is a comet tho
(gib me more celestial objects but mythologized!)
Dee u came to the right place! someone pull up the elder names
found in lore moff doc, credits to bricky but i added ABSENT INGAME
Who’s ___ ?
Want the Elder names? You’re in luck! The letters in brackets are Hebrew letters, which the Elders are named after:
Isle: Daleth (ד)
Prairie: Ayin (ע)
Forest: Teth (ט)
Valley: Samekh (ס)
Wasteland: Tsadi (צ)
Vault: Lamed (ל)
Prince: Alef (א) *ABSENT INGAME
King: Resh (ר) *ABSENT INGAME
PLEASE NOTE: These names have appeared in concept art and are often used when referring to the elders. They are no longer canon, they are fanon.
both valleys are samekh?

and thank you
found in lore moff doc, credits to bricky but i added ABSENT INGAME
Who’s ___ ?
Want the Elder names? You’re in luck! The letters in brackets are Hebrew letters, which the Elders are named after:
Isle: Daleth (ד)
Prairie: Ayin (ע)
Forest: Teth (ט)
Valley: Samekh (ס)
Wasteland: Tsadi (צ)
Vault: Lamed (ל)
Prince: Alef (א) *ABSENT INGAME
King: Resh (ר) *ABSENT INGAME
PLEASE NOTE: These names have appeared in concept art and are often used when referring to the elders. They are no longer canon, they are fanon.
@sinful anvil
Guys I need help 
I'm drawing a sky kid,
And I need a reference of him in game, but I don't have those cosmetics
If someone has
Belonging pants
Wasteland shrug cape
Elders hair of hidden forest
Put those on and make a screen shot and put it here I'll really appreciate

Sorry about my bad english qwq
the valley elders used to be just a person,but now they are two,some people split the name so one can have the first half and the other has the second half
so Sam and Ekh?
One is american and one is native american
Guys I need help
I'm drawing a sky kid,
And I need a reference of him in game, but I don't have those cosmeticsIf someone has
Belonging pants
Wasteland shrug cape
Elders hair of hidden forestPut those on and make a screen shot and put it here I'll really appreciate
Sorry about my bad english qwq
@plush heart you can ask in #questions-and-help or #screenshots-and-videos or they can send one because I can't for now ;-;
Thank u anyway
ok so valley elder in the concepts used to be just one person,so one name
but in future developments of sky the devs make it two people
so now we can split the name to call each of them
or
we can go the dora and kakashi way
So 6 realms in game and eden included , they are all parts of a kingdom right ?
yeah
so far read some theories i dont know which one is most correct or most close to sky lore
Ye i hope tgc will expand the game more so we can understand it
Valley Elders are never stated to be one person. It is up to you for that, but it is never canonly confirmed.
random hc but what if birds are seen as holy during ancestor spirit times? “By the Bird, By the Megabird, oh birds, I swear to the birds”
like what if ppl worship megan and by extension birds
isn't that the one showed in eden 
:0

imo the falling buildings , lightning , etc. is like the last moments when the diamond goes kaboom ? like a flashback kinda
and the rocks too
personal opinion OwO)/ my guess is that the towers are probably just same building style, both were probably previously destroyed as shown in the storm eye-orbit transition
after all this time i’m still really confused about wing lights, what are they to us? and how comes we have a vessel that can hold so many?
and also when we die in eden we turn into a blue floating star similar to a lost spirit... what are we?
The blue light thing is like, a soul core of sky creatures
Except for kreb lol

Also,, spirits originally have a yellow light UNTIL we unlock their AC locks which they turn blue,, but skykids have always had blue,, which means we're ascended from the start,,,??
You're saying it the opposite way
They are Blue and when we ascend them, they turn yellow
Also, i feel like, Whenever we buy an item from the Spirit, we are giving them light. And then a stage comes When the light given by us takes over and the darkness in them goes away, (which means even we Ascend them) so they turn yellow
Huh
Wait gimme a sec
AH
YES
A STORM HIT MY COUNTRY TODAY I THINK IT HIT MY HEAD TOO

Pleath forgive mi
Oh, hope everyone there's okay!
/pfffffffffft hhaha
Yeah I’ve noticed that the creatures of light have warmer colors while creatures of dark have cooler colors
/hmmm what about jellies?
Shining as hundred of suns

/well i mean blue is a pretty cool color
yep
I’ve always thought that the blue color was just a reflection of light cuz jellies are mostly transparent
until I saw this emote 
:')
Yes blue is coooolll
Saw this while digging thru tom zhao's concept arts yeet—
I also just realized why out of all colors,, it's the orange cape that's a paid or special cape—
I see a design on the orange cape in the picture-
But I assume that's old news?
Or maybe my eyes are getting worse-
Also, I was typing why we don't have orange candles or orange ascended candles and then I remembered the seasonal candles which makes sense
Yes I think,, it's from Tom Zhao's Sky concept art collection
yep, in the pins 






I think they’re corrupted and before



