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And about Teth... she(idk but girl i belive) seems so sad at the start but like tented when she saw our flame, like is the culprit but not the culprit?
The sky people are canonically genderless so you can interpret them however you want
back to lurking
Honestly, I think Teth got taken advantage of by the king
Ok
maybe
(I view most of the elders as nb, I just give them he, she or they pronouns to make it easier)
Im not sure because i say "Ok" 
i can see her taking the candle to make a power diamond to send to the king in a desperate attempt to try and help him make things better even tho hes probably bad
Wait wait, there's something i didn't understand, who is the king and who is the prince?
"Who’s the King?
The King is the presumed monarch of the Sky Kingdom. He is important to the lore, and is in game, just not in the way you’d expect. The little information about him comes from the concept arts and devs, so there’s lots of room for your personal headcanons. It is commonly accepted that the King is the Eden Elder. The Eden Elder is « not around to be saved anymore ».
Who’s the Prince?
The Prince is canon, it’s up to us how he affects the lore. In the concepts, he played many pivotal roles throughout the lore, I suggest reading them to find your favourite. We do not know if the Prince and King are separate or the same, that’s for you to decide! The Prince is also considered the Eden Elder at times.
« Prince and the King kind of exists, but we leave that up to you to interpret their roles in the lore »
Dev Reika"
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit
Teth might be trying to save him? Dunno
Sorry my bad English, is not my first language
They can be interpreted as either separate entities or same entity, it's honestly up to you.
I asked this some days before, and a lot of people sayed what is the king o prince
"¿Who is the skid we hug before our ascend to orbit? "
This is also up for debate!
i havent really thought about that yet
I want a realm called Creby of Wisdom
Some people believe it's the Prince (who has powers of time apparently according to one theory) where the moment you hug him, time stops/rewinds to the day before the explosion of the Eden diamond so you can try and save the kingdom
Now, the crebs cave at forest is named Creby Knowledge Cave
Another is that it's a fragment of what the king used to be.
I just wanna know why the skid in eden looks like they're curled up crying before you come up and offer a hand. Like are they crying about the sky kingdom falling to darkness?
They seem tired too if anything
now that makes me sad
Or as if they were waiting for us
@prisma wolf u mean the stars?
Or upset they were torn from us
what if its the prince regretting everything
Im just sure what the sit animation of that skid was the one used for the sit animation 9f the timid bookworm
i'm gonna
My theory is that it's a part of you. It's the part of you that has suffered through the journey, the part of you that thinks it's a drag and doesn't want to keep going... But your strength gives that part reassurance which allows you to become whole again
cry
So it's a mental resurrection too
My theory is that it's a part of you. It's the part of you that has suffered through the journey, the part of you that thinks it's a drag and doesn't want to keep going... But your strength gives that part reassurance which allows you to become whole again
@velvet thunder To be honest... is a nice theory
Did someone call the fun police??
no
...Wait like. What summons this bot
I want to know
mods
@velvet thunder To be honest... is a nice theory
@kind musk
Yeah, I just thought it's sort of like helping someone stand back into their feet and get them out of a dark mindset. You literally help them stand up and hug them as though reassuring them that you'll both get through it, that you can do it one more time. Not because you have to but because it's the right thing to do.
Im going to call a biiit, not much, about the end of journey game, another of tgc, i'll mark as spoiler so, is ok if i say something about? Is for lore but i don't want end muted
I'm guessing your idea is related to the Sky lore. If you post about Journey then spoiler tag it just for players who haven't played it and don't want the experience spoiled for them.
It's okay, you don't have to share if you're uncomfortable or feel like your idea will be rejected. We appreciate that you tried though!
Yeah but after thinking it a bit, was without sense
thanks anyway for your appreciation

No problem, listen, it happens to me too. I'll be like- Oh my God I have an epic theory and then I just look back and I'm like- .....Yeah, no that's not gonna work.
Hi folks, what's up?
Hey Bean, is you the one who we hug in our ascend to orbit? 
!krill
Idk I think it just makes its way through the channels, probably systematic
Unless you summon it
!krill
Yeah it's not happening 
Most of us can only do krill in memes. We can still do other commands... But sadly none drop the moff doc.
Ah yikes
!loremoff
!moffdoc

Watch him/her drop the holy book of sky lore like it's hot 
Perhaps Forest Elder (No, not Teth) took the King’s helmet as a way to pass on his power?
After all, the description for Hidden Forest says “Find the source of the Ancient Power”
I thought the source was that prisim at the end of vault
But you can see in her cutscene, she was clearly struggling to assemble something, showing that the power was almost gone
It wasn’t until we came in that she was able to create it
I bet by this moment, she’s struggling to do anything she can to keep what’s left of the power
I think once we stopped the rain she was able to get her strength back
Maybe the rain was holding her back
Teth is the fanon name for the forest Elder
We need a lore moff doc over here
Other than that- nice theories!
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You know if you search "lore moff" you usually find the doc withi the first few entries?
Thank you
Is there somewhere I can see the concept art? Because I clicked the link in the doc and it took me right back to this server
Most concept art is in the pins.
no wonder forest acted like a jerk
the way she grabbed the light its like getting what she wanted without saying thanks
Is sky like that short story The Egg by Andy Weir?
reincarnation? check
but the egg focuses on one person
sky has tons of skykids getting rebirthed
but - the egg fits bricky’s lore
Right but I’m saying are all the children of the light just past/future lives of the same skykid
then ur right it parallels the egg
Man I wish I payed attention to this channel earlier because I don’t even know if skykids eat food
Does anyone have a lore document on the next season
no, since we don't have much to work with for the next season
Dang
things we know are
- it's in isle
- there are interesting murals
- 4 prophets
- the masks are of (in order in the teaser): turtle, spider, bat, lion
might be forgetting something lol but that's all i can remember for now
I'll try to get information
as long as it's not beta stuff 
You know, since the letters for the Elders are Hebrew, and the final zone is called Eye of “Eden”, I think Sky is canon with Christianity
Better whip out my Bible
there's definitely some influence from christianity
but other religions and cultures play a part too 
I know the spirits are based off of the 4 elements
Do we know anything about the king?
why the 4 elements? 
as for the king he's canon, he's important to current sky lore and he's not there in the same way as how the elders appear
which implies that he's there in-game,, somewhere??
the phrase « sky is canon with christianity » made me do a double take, its phrased as if this is the new new testament or something
i see elders as polythestic gods so imo it doesnt line up w christianity
it’s like christianity had a kid with the greek pantheon
what does hebrew have to do w christianity tho? saw it while scrolling back up
what if sky has no deities, rather it is nihilistic altruism
oh mm
im not a philosopher what the heck is that
wait so jewish religion and christinaity have overlap/similarity/parallel/tie-in???
i thought they’re different
yes very much
judaism, christianity, and islam are whats called « abrahamic religions »
THERES MORE??????
they’re all connected
holy moly
also that mural is a bug
Hey Lambda
hai oz welcome back
that looks like a wasteland soldier 
welcome back Oz
kick his butt
I’m not talking about it’s ingame validity. I’m talking about it’s out of game implications
It looks like Traci
Tsadi
ik its not possibly canon but damn this is some
it makes me go 
that looks like a gw soldier but im not sure if its tsadi
While the other elders look on
i know what it’s from
and i know what it is
but i cant say
because beta
but i can say with certainty that it’s not supposed to be there
kick his butt 
Looks like he just gave the Prince/King a little... discipline....
I looked at the beta murals
But I didn’t see this anywhere there
assets, oz
u data mined??
murals are commonly stored in asset files, not always in order either
(O_O)
tsadi the soldier, beating up their leader??
If the leader done mucked up you gotta put boots to him
I think its just Tsadi giving the Prince some discipline-
He has a grown up body
what kind of discipline leaves a kid laying on the ground like that
the prince has the 8-star glow, i wonder if this weakened him
He’s bigger than a child would be to Tsadi
More like vibe check
i thought its just a gw soldier
what kind of discipline leaves a kid laying on the ground like that
@lethal stump the RIGhT kind
Just kidding g

Darn, I was gonna talk about a topic that's similar, yet very different from this
I think i know why the ancestors didnt fly
Now, we're talking about how Tsadi vibe checked the Prince
They were too heavy
UwU
Nah continue your direction butterfly
Wanted to talk about Prince, but this kind is literally the opposite vibe of the topic I was gonna bring up, lmao
Anyways-
im curious bc they could have said what a pipsqueak, we should make an obligarchy and rule the realms but no. if they’re meant to discipline its like they dont want to abandon the prince. makes me wonder if these elders are a big family
Wait
NO
Sorry
thank you
I forgot
My eyessss
WRONG CHAT
but i am already spoiled
umm what if
its actually a mural depicting a prince falling and tsadi is curious and having a look
Yall will see it anyway, idk why yall making it such a biggie
I just wanna experience it first hand-
beta content stays in beta channels because it might change from beta to live
it would be hype over something that might not even become official
YO GUYS I CAME UP WITH SOMETHING WSNT TO HEAR?
Yall have no idea how much I want to use my server emojis rn but I'm broke.
Lemme just
I-
What happened here
Hi guys. Where'd you get concept art pictures? Or is there anyone of you have the art book?
in the pins !
The lore gets more interesting with the concept art
Okie, thankies
so as we know the friendship constellation is the Eden constellation right?
so are friends pop up there in the Eden constellation
so does that mean that we are the Eden spirits?
👀
i think that means we are all the king
ima just say... new season has too much good lore
One day, a bigger star fell. Past the blinding glow, lies a form close to their size but all too different.
A child.
Tsadi, the strongest of them all, cautiously raised their spear but ultimately decided against prodding it.
because our friend constellation appears before the whole eden mural in vault appears 
thanks tsadi
[writes a pointless text for craps n giggles]
Prince has passed the vibe check-
Okay, I kinda wanna talk about the Prince, mainly talking about the theory that the kid we meet
in Eden is the Prince
do you think the prince was originally sent for the same reason we were ? to save and help people ?
a drop to the constellation gate, in fetal position, and wake up
maybe for theme of sky
I just thought how the idea of that being like... The Prince or King being the child we meet when we die seems to perfectly fit with the theme of the game, and gives that scene a whole 'nother meaning when we hug the child.
maybe he is an antithesis. his way of saving failed.
Here, we see the Prince/King. The one who probably caused this mess. The one who was behind the Diamond that created destruction. Our skid probably knows this. And what does our kid do? Hug him.
aaaaaAAAAA
well, arguably we might know it’s the king/prince if they’ve been on the journey with us 
if the prince is 14 yrs mentally and samekh are probs close to 18 this is too hilarious
i see them as early 20s
Also, realise when we die, the situation is the exact opposite of what happens in an Elder Cutscene-
no need for ping
twins be bitter about that youngest child the parents dote on the most
Sorry
In an Elder Cutscene, the Elders don't have light. We bring it to them with the flame-
so if samekh is canonically the youngest is this after the prince or they have been youngest all along
so,,,that puts us in the position of the elder
The new color change is the exact color that we have when we lose our light/flame
Yeah
which means WE ARE THE KING
Yeah
reincarnation
Species?
ya elders r diff from skykids
Prince also lost their light in a way. Their color is exactly the same as the color of our cape when we lose our light
In the new update, that is
Kinda fits with my theory that the Prince sacrificed their light throughout the Kingdom so we could collect it
I mean, pretty much. We are now the Eden elder and he has to deal with it
The other boi is meant to be the one to help us
how come weve never thought that the eden cutscene seems to show we are an elder in a sense?
But they aren't the one that approaches us. We're the one who offers a hug.
There was a older built or beta
Yeah, the Prince=CoL in Eden theory
Maybe the two kids we see when we die. Maybe that represents the body and soul. Our soul is the light and the body is not complete without it
That's when we turn whole when they hug
what if our soul is the king/prince then
we gather imprints of his soul within us
Ooo
Well... I did theorize the Prince's soul and body got seperated when they fell
We were the body
Ah
The soul became King
I'm really hesitant on the theory that we're the Prince atoning for our sins
Because it simply doesn't fit with the theme of the game
Even Christianity says "Love your enemy"
Whats the theme?
“you shall not kill”
To help and save everyone. Selflessness and altruism
sky surrounds Friendship and Giving
Yeah
:0
Oh
I mean, I dunno. It kind of makes sense to me? King/Prince was kind of like "Oh man, I messed up big time", and something big happened that erased them. They get reborn to try and fix what happened, but never can, and it creates a cycle.
The devs said that Sky is a game meant to battle the human nature (greed, pride, etc)
Wait so if they get reborn, how did they die? The king/prince that is
we have no purpose of our own, everything we come across in the desolate kingdom of sky are memories, remnant of a world that once was, the creatures of light journey upwards towards the orbit for eternality. so what is our purpose of being placed into this world made of fragments, one can argue that to reunite the stars once again is our purpose, but i think that is our mission, though no instructions or path points us in the direction of this objective, our purpose is one we destine ourselves to, altruism, self-sacrifice. the core of the game mechanics of sky involves giving, selflessness. we give the flame back to the elders, returning the pieces of memories of the ancestor spirits. giving, such a simple act of generosity yet innate. nihilism because our lack of meaning in interpretations the world, of our own existence and purpose, but we give our own facet of life meaning with love, not hatred, altruism, that is the difference. hence nihilistic altruism
Can someone sum up the lore, I’m so confused-
wait where does it say devs said sky was meant to battle human nature? i don't remember
there is none
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@eternal current
I remember it being stated in a website
Ok
so many skykids decided to hoard wls for 10 wedges, which is kinda the opposite of altruism, idk what to think of that
thats the sad part of skykids having freedom to develop individuality
sky is an elaborate social experiment
man that was some deep philosophy right there lambda, thank you
It was the theme of the game that made me really interested in Sky
This is why I'm iffy on the "atoning for past sins" theory
When you want to conduct a social experiment so you create an entire game
i came for the story, stayed for the community
It would be neat it we could explore more land in sky. I dont think what we see now is what there is. No?
actually, i think the atonement thing fits quite well with battling human nature as well
same, res
Yeah. People messed up, so we have to take it into our own hands and fix it!
Of course, to each his own, and everything's valid!
Eh, its probably just me anyway
I always thought it was about compassion and sacrifice ya kno?, since in Eden we have to give up our wl, which rewards us with ascention candles, but we don't know that the first time around
no need for spoilers
Yeah
okies fixed it
Honestly... The idea of the Prince indeed being the boi we meet when we die just gives that scene a whole different meaning to me
Hugging and probably forgiving the one person who caused this whole mess. Offering a hug when we're the one who was meant to be saved
Hm and also reincarnation means that we don't always come back the same. So it wouldn't be wrong to think that we sky kids are peices of the prince
so many skykids decided to hoard wls for 10 wedges, which is kinda the opposite of altruism, idk what to think of that
well there are various aspects of altruism, depending on your interpretation greed in itself implies a form of altruistic behavior, albeit weak and confined to a particular circumstance
o makes sense
you can also pretty much argue the other way around
this is the problem with philosophy
we’re supposed to return the stars but also allowed to keep shiny bois on our capes??
i think the CoL are our memories, or memory fragments
but any other interpretation is equally valid
Well, my interpretation are that souls are stars in Sky
i saw it briefly
(i'm going to wait for for butterfly to finish, hold on)
(i'm sorry you can continue)
I think the souls of Sky are pretty much equivalent to stars
The ancestors were stars that were in physical form or something
Each one being from different kinds of constellations (Like seasonal spirits)
The spirits we meet (normal spirits) are kind of important stars that may or may not are meant be born in the Sky world
Okay, I'm done
@solar relic
the life cycle of a sky kid
waking up mysteriously
gaining a cape
dieing
rebirth through manta hugs
well,,
if we are the new incarnates of the king/prince, saving the fallen is like atonement for our sins.
to atone for your sins you'd have to step out of your comfort zone. while you have to do the right thing, it also means letting go of familiarity, which much more comforting than stepping into the unknown.
maybe we're all desensitised to our eden runs already, but to give up your lives for others - others you may not even know? that isn't something you'd easily be willing to do.
we have the choice of not stepping into eden and staying safe - that is what i'd call the 'selfish' path - but it is not something to be judged for as we all are selfish in some way, it's human nature.
but to atone for our sins as king by stepping into eden and giving up parts of ourselves to the fallen? it's at your expense, and you may feel like you wish you stayed safe out of eden, but at the same time you feel like you can't leave any of them behind.
so, yeah, you are giving up yourself for others in eden, for what you as the king/prince did in the past
i didn't know how to end it 

Now we know how they look like in ideal light conditions
wh
where did the my go
this fills me with serotonin
we should show this to blue
maybe it would lead to updates on the krill anatomy thing
the front part intrigues me, in that most recent image
im trying to tell specifically what it might be, but i can’t
it’s,,,strange
and will require more observation
ignore the eyes
I caught a sads. Any chance there are any new sweet theories?
now she look happy :3
jokes aside
this looks like multiple eyes to me. no wonder krills screech when u tryna ride them
maybe one main spotlight, with multiple smaller eyes looking up
krills are not dum dum
where on earth did those krill images come from? 
i should've known it'd be the artist devs having fun 
Why is there a krill gaurding fogotten ark
@solar relic I read ur theory from two hours ago (on sins and Eden) and i completely agree!
I thought of the same thing when I first went through Eden and had an existential crisis for my sky kid 😂
Speaking of which... Did u realize that u had two frozen 2 references... Or were they completely unintentional...
I honestly realized them👁👄👁
@empty wraith thank you!! 
it was unintentional but i realised it was probably because i've been forced to rewatch frozen 2 with my siblings too many times 
oh man, i now see what my theory/ted talk was lacking. i wanted to link it to fighting against the human nature of selfishness that we feel in order to achieve altruism/selflessness in eden. in eden we basically are doing just that. 
I’m not sure if this is lure but here is something I like to think is true
Player that quits sky: They completed everything they wanted to do and returned to the sky to be a star again
Player who stays: they completed everything they wanted to do but they do not want to be put back into the sky, so they stay
I wake up to see krill with 2 eyes
hello ginko it was chaotic 
Hi res xD
Pink krill 

H e l l o 😳
/what's that pink grill
It always gets chaotic when i sleep hahah (timezones)
just me rambling
given we are reincarnations of the prince, imagine what the prince couldve done with his abilities while ruling the realms: imitation, restless honking, telepathy, capturing others’ abilities, flight, agility, infinite stamina
hoo boy
tsadi: h—
prince: loud crab honks
Ah right. I was counting the lamps in archive and i was shocked to know that the lamps pop out a small blue (spirit?/circle)
It just kinda.. pops out and floats then disappears

Oh, damn. With each new detail, the theory of eden being the true vault just keeps coming closer and closer 
WASTELAND AND VAULT IS ONE?
I mean, could be
Like vault isn't an entirely new place
It's just a building
since vault is connected/in wasteland,, maybe?
all I know is that I know nothing
I mean, when you enter wasteland it says something along the lines of the vault being after it so they cpuld be directly next to each other
THE MORE I KNOW
THE MORE I KNOW THAT I DONT KNOW
I CANT LIVE LIKE THIS
Yeah the closest areas are gw-vault-eden compared to the others (which need a bit more walking/flying)
Well maybe not eden..
Well maybe not eden..
@tender dune right, you fly to get from one area to another except in wasteland-vault-eden which you just... walk right into the next one

Yep (no need to tag me haha im right here)
Well, for eden there's this portal/gate that separates it from vault
Aye wassup
yeah but you still walk right into it
Well, yeah
Yeah like the gate to eden entrance is right in front of exiting vault. But reaching eye of eden takes a while (because its a big area)
yeah....
that area with the 2 doors always creeps me out
Also, notice how the outside of vault looks really similar to this
vault used to be inside the castle
Just a theory 
the top floor broke in the storm
we can see there is some kind of symbol on top of the vault tho
Technically, vault could have just one floor 
i cant get the clearer version, but someone send it here already
Which symbol?
ohh
AH THAT'S RIGHT
that I have
The big symbol on top of vault
which looks like the king again
no clue
koma said the symbol on vault looks liek this
I can't make anything out of it
king propaganda
Yes
It looks like a wider version
at this point i just guessing vault have a big tv sattelite
looks like the belonging symbol tho

yall what if the vault has big stuffs bc the king regularly visits it
Oof what was cencored
well its the center of knowledge...
flashbacks to goob's wide king meme
If you go to isle temple, the doodles there show that vault looks like the king
i mean, it would makes sense if the king visit the vault regulary
Which lead to my crackpot theory of "the vault is the king"
Or to keep custody of vault
partially bc lamed is his advisor
Which lead to my crackpot theory of "the vault is the king"
@tender dune i just thought the same thing
now i can type smh
i mean vault is well preserved inside and is filled w memories
And it used to be sealed (or at least heavily protected)
“the vault of knowledge awaits” (gw)
when we honk we are being led to the vault
that three towers fting king propoganda? thats a vault
vault has king propaganda,,,,
Gw temple and vault's temple could be the same place (?
That'd actually make a ton of sense
so actually the darkness from eden spread to gw directly (?). the vault is just preserved well inside
my guess is the vault is in gw
im staring into why vault has a specific number of dots. I guess its to show that the dotted part is the part peaking outside the mountain
dots?
Scroll at my pic up
I have a headcanon theory in which the current vault is just some kind of memory/illusion of what it used to be
So, perhaps the darkness spread even into vault
This
Which is just a tower (like the mural in isle)
L the real vault has no functioning electricity 
when u go outside it looks intact? like there isnt some roof bashed open there’s just that mysterious structure
so its damaged inside
The roof doesn't look like it was damaged from inside either tho
we didnt know the other side tho
What's interesting is you're inside vault and its a wide place but when u enter vault from eden portal is just.. crumbles
we only see it intact from one side
we didnt know if it destroyed on other side...
since the fog is too dense there
time to oob
aaaand the place is covered with rock wall-
For starters, true vault has only one (small) room
Does it mean vault crumbles when we leave it? (That it uses its last energy for us to reach eden cuz we used the vault diamond?)
good point :o
wait if the rocks damaged the temple with one shiny boi before u go the second area with krills around the pipes
have some rocks upheaved part of vault?
That's an interesting take 
This is my oob with my friend at the merry go round lvl (the walls end at the yoda spirit)
temple with shiny boi has a small pipe in the back
interessant
also yoda spirit-
Polite yoda asdfk 
oh

At the merry go round lvl and above you only see lanterns and crumbles floating
Even without oob you can see it
Just go to the edge of the level and you'll see floating lanterns
Isn't that place (in the pic) true vault?
You can deep honk to see how the walls look like in all the levels too but needs a lot of staring xD
Isn't that place (in the pic) true vault?
Unsure because vault is mysterious. Its possible that the pic i sent is where true vault ends at (that after yoda lvl we reach the dream part)
merry go around... is taht wehre we find spiral of mantas?
Merry go round is the polite spirit with the trees
Yeah cuz the lanterns go in a merry go round 
From what I can see, the layout of that place looks just like a circle
No big corridors attached to it
But the floor doesn't match with the one in true vault (gray vault, vault with no electricity, whatever you wanna call it)
In conclusion, I have no clue 
The sky kids fell from the sky right?
Technically speaking, their light fell from the sky
or something like that
And they got born from this light?
Dunno
when we meditate in gw, we see vault as normal (blue lighting and flames)
Hmm, okay thanks
Vault has some blue hue to it
Although, now that I think about it, the blue hue is mostly just in the center; when you deviate and take other routes (like the door at the right or the cave of praying spirit) the blue hue gets less intense
And instead it's replaced with a darker ambiance
the way to eden from vault is the same way you come into vault from wasteland
also yoda spirit-
@bitter shale what yoda spirit 👁👄👁
The
spirit
@bitter shale what yoda spirit 👁👄👁
The polite stance
No not polite
Uh
The one that levitates stuff
i always thought home as our activation place
But the one that makes things levitate is inside of the weird kinda library
The room with the big table
that place behind 4 player doors and have kamehameha spirit inside?
Yeah
also that giant table... do you think that room was made as elder's meeting room?
Perhaps 
forest mamma wouldn't fit in the chairs tho
I thought it would be a scholars meeting room but yeah elders makes more sense with the size 
valley twins have to backpack on each other
piggyback-
just imagine them piggyback in the middle of serious meeting-
They'd end up sitting on the table 
Did anyone count how many seats there are?
theres 6, one is fallen over
tsadi yeeted his chair
Daleth just eating peacefully, Ayin trying to eat but keep disturbed by the twins become absolute fools on their foods, Teth fuming on twins' shenanigan while Tsadi helding Teth from destroying the whole dinner table
While the prince just sit there while wondering "why is my family like this"
i liek to imagine this

and lamed is just in the corner trying to read
I mean, I'd say it could've been a council meeting room, but why in vault when it could've been done in the castle?
oh yeah lamed-
i forgot them-
unless vault was inside the castle
OK ok, I'll stop 
lamed is the chef-
Isle: Daleth (ד)
Prairie: Ayin (ע)
Forest: Teth (ט)
Valley: Samekh (ס)
Wasteland: Tsadi (צ)
Vault: Lamed (ל)
Prince: Alef (א)
King: Resh (ר)
PLEASE NOTE: These names have appeared in concept art and are often used when referring to the elders. They are no longer canon, they are fanon.
prince and king- h u h
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Which one in valley is samekh ? Are they both samekh
Ooh more vault conversations
:o
they share a name, it seems
i like to call them Samuel (kakashi hair) and Mekhane (dora hair)

but yeah Samekh is their name
I just say dora and kakashi if I wanna be more specific xD
yep xD
or "the chaotic one" and "less chaotic one"
by that you kno which one i reffer
Day 2 im still laughing at the twirl vid voluntary sent
what lol
So what if the bottom of vault is made of matter and the top is made of light
Maybe it was meant to be a way to move between orbit and the material plane
Or the other way around really
It also kind of has some big Tower of Babel vibes, both structurally and thematically
Here's a picture from the bottom looking up:
it’s an oob
what are you asking for ? a lore explanation ?
Yes
oobs are game mechs, they aren’t really.....lore related
they can be patched and removed
Ohhh
lore can’t
I didn't know 👉👈
Oob - loren't
13 minutes until reset lads
i hope they never patched that vault oob
and valley oob too
they would never patch the valley elder one I think
aw hell yeah
please i love that oob so much
Valley oob is very pretty
indeed!
I'm... going to do something possisbly crazy
And it's called examining every single spirit in each realm.
anyway, does anyone have vault mural without the elders blocking it-
good luck alice!
Yep
I heard that Jenova specifically request for the valley oob to stay
this is the best i can get from vault mural sjjshs
I should make a doc too for references
I'm... going to do something possisbly crazy
And it's called examining every single spirit in each realm.
@silver sequoia good luck dude
Thanks
Also, Ktjn said that intentional oobs are also something they thought or discussed about adding in game, so...
For some reason, something was bugging me about today's spirit and I don't what it was
Keep a look out 👀
I feel like vault didnt exist, like its just a memory. I mean vault is supposed to be tall right? But we dont see it when we are about to enter gw temple.
yes please aaa
also i just know that there is a hidden cave on this area
Wait- hidden cave?
Yup
how the heck my picture of the cave didnt send because of explicit content-
okay nvm i will visit it again, hang on
its almost time to reset anyway
How do you get to the elders room?
Should I look a Spoilers?
pardon ?
Omg at*
spoilers for what ? Eden ?
What kind of spoilers tho??
Prophecy
ignore the other stuff on the krill, atleast we get to see the model
@kind bobcat are these game files?
well yes, but reika shared them, Oz
Lore chat doesn't discuss prophecy gameplay thats happening right now in beta it will be better in #beta-discussion . You can however theorise about prophecy season (as long as it doesn't mention beta stuff or hacked content)
Oz!! 
king motifs can be found in every realm in some form, i checked
Did they go back and make them?
wdym ?
Or...was he always king?
That’s up to you man
by the way, the prince has been confirmed, so take that into account for whatever theory you might make
Say again?
Prince and the King kind of exists, but we leave that up to you to interpret their roles in the lore
from Reika
is there a list of popular King and Prince theories anywhere? thx!!
i just sent it
The king AND the prince kind of exist
Oh finally
She didn’t happen to mention a princess at all, did she?
Someday hopefully oz
Lol one day
If skykids were made by humans, where did the humans go?
Btw someone sent a pic of the prince being yeeted in the sanc doodle. I went to check it but it was still the same for me
That was me.
It still looks like this for me
the human and sky world are separate as far as we know
Some type of glitch
The center one is the prairie elder, big tummy
We dont know
most people think Megabird did
Who is that?
Yeah oz thats my guess to xD
M e g a n
They are next to a mountain.
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Oh boy new lore moff
Hm?
But i was wondering why it was incomplete for me (mine doesnt have prince and tsadi)
What does that mean?
that you’re new to lore
Oh
Its a document for you to read as you're new to lore 
Moff is kinda like the cute way of saying moth 
Its a nice short document for u to catch up with us xD
short
The big brains
it is short
But i was wondering why it was incomplete for me (mine doesnt have prince and tsadi)
@/Ginkomimi#4105 Sky doesnt want to show you the truth
My guess is tsadi, vault, Fox momma, tubby, (???), mountain 🏔
By @/158k Mantas' rejected child#9585
They stomped the king
Tsadi went smack
Lamed is pretty too
And tall
Well I guess skykids are just smol
Are skykids more of moths, birds or butterflies?
we’re just...skykids
ill go see if the doodle will continue for me 
-.w-.
They're children of the light
Moth is just the term because of the default cape, which is brown
I just say moth because they're attracted to light and they look like moths
/ hi guys i spy a new moff in the chat?
Yes, but they're not literally moths 
Have you ever noticed these jar shaped windows to the refinery in forest look like people?
Did megabird only appear in Orbit and in Concept arts? Did it appear somewhere else in cave paintings or something like that?
In Office cave painting in water (megabird mural) as well (non canon though)
/what i see is megan is giving out free pineapple pizza
why were they holding umbrellas🗿
Most likely lightseekers
/yup
Maybe they’re pick axes ⛏?
Collecting her embers
Just kidding
I thought so too oz xD
Maybe they’re pick axes ⛏?
/oooh
Embers?
Then they told me it looks a bit too long and big for pickaxes
What are embers
and what are they for
I call them embers (since its my theory) cuz technically they're not power diamonds [man made] but embers that fell from megan [raw material] 
What species are skykids and elders
Unknown
they are separate species tho uwu
A power diamond
Hwhat?
I guess the cutscene just shows us how they're being made by teth
How tall can a skykid or elder get?
Ohhh
/ diamond with the capacity of holding energy
So, Teth forged the power diamonds and gave it to Megabird?? (where they were throwing it up to the sky)
in the concepts, the power diamonds represented distancing from megabird, not further worship of her
Power diamonds are artificial and are being used to basically operate everything (boats / flying building/doors / etc.)
Also what is before elders but after skykids? What are the spirits? Also who wielded the giant spears, shields and other weapons?
so power diamonds are kind of like a bad thing? since its artificial?
Power diamonds are made out of darkstone, which according to the concepts, causes corruption

What are the spirits? Adult skykids? Skyadults?
But some people still worshiped Megabird.. enough to go to war with those who lost their way
Yep because power diamonds are half organic half inorganic butterfly juice
What are the spirits? Adult skykids? Skyadults?
up to you. we sure as heck don’t know
The spirits are spirits, they're an entirely different species than us skykids.
What wielded the giant weapons that are everywhere, especially in the wasteland?
Maybe spirits were like, the ancient version of us, and as time flies, we turned into Skykids
I think canon doc said sky kids are skykids right? (That they wont grow into ancestors or elders??)
we don’t know :>
Good question 
How big can a skykid get?
The spirits are also called our ancestors lucian 
Mohoha, thé gréât thing about lore is that we don’t have answers. it’s designed to make you think up answers to your own questions
do you have the canon document 
How big can a skykid get?
@robust knoll smol
skykid max height is 3’11
do you have the canon document
@elder geode check the pins
3’2 is starting height
What's the smallest height for a skykid?
2’3
my dumb brain can't comprehend these sizes
2’3 is Chibi or Chibi + smol spell?
If you're small because of a resize, can you use the chibi mask to be even smaller?
thats Chibi
i dont think that's lore related anymore🗿
no, chibi height is a set height
They'd answer it better ^^ 
Still da same for me-
Same senior tableflip (i dunno what to call u)
oob
👀oh
Anyways ttyl gotta speed cr to enjoy lore chat in peace 
Is allowed here ask abt ||orbit- here|| right?
Alright then , imma ask something- did the elder hair need AC rn?
if you're talking about lore, then yeah. but if its like, a normal question about Sky, then i think #eden-spoilers
Yes, #eden-spoilers indeed
Ahh oki ty y'all
/guys i thought orbit has no water>??
Do the valley elders share a name??
/ yea but it's from the concept arts
/pompuru usually i just go with kakashi and dora
i call
sam and
ekh
orbit has water
that's why there are boats, the water is just at the sides of the path
/yea i saw boát and was shocked
i call
sam and
ekh
/oh i like this
/hmmm is the water in eden holy water?
/ after the boat update you shorta notice the place has water evrywhere
Kakashi and Dora really work tho
/now i want a meme ofthissanyways
/like where did the small moat in the begining of prarie get their water from
/there's 0 rain there
I'm not sure if this helps with ANYTHING AT ALL, but honks distort air so maybe somethihg?? I'm pretty smol brain
/ honks distort air...?
I flew all the way up to the top of isle and honked a buncu
Noticed that the background looked a little weirder around the edge
Kinda like smoke
if the sound is strong enough, doesnt it distort air too or something??
Sooo even the elders don’t have confirmed names?
Sooo even the elders don’t have confirmed names?
/nope
they do, but it was scrapped
elders are confirmed to be nameless
/yea
do you want their concept names ?
Yeah why not 😄
Isle: Daleth (ד)
Prairie: Ayin (ע)
Forest: Teth (ט)
Valley: Samekh (ס)
Wasteland: Tsadi (צ)
Vault: Lamed (ל)
Prince: Alef (א)
King: Resh (ר)
PLEASE NOTE: These names have appeared in concept art and are often used when referring to the elders. They are no longer canon, they are fanon.
welp it's time to research on sound longitudinal waves properties and how they distort air particles-
/but "gOldEn WaSteLand elDer" is long so we get Tsadi instead
did the Prince appear in the game?? or somewhere in the game
/yesnt
in concepts, never obviously in game
/ yea, tho i do think the kid we hug in the trip to orbit is prince
what does the prince look like in concepts
/ a skid but white
welp it's time to research on sound longitudinal waves properties and how they distort air particles-
I apologize ;w;
the prince is about the size of a skid
A> welp it's time to research on sound longitudinal waves properties and how they distort air particles-
I apologize ;w;
lmaoo it's ok dude i need to revise for my physics finals anyway
So everything in sky, story wise, is not confirmed ?
aside from canon lore
has anyone ever compared the office krill to the trophy stand in there to see how big they are
/is Gink here??? I see Raf
not much is confirmed at least
legokidlogan already found an approximate size of krills, 69’8ft
/Raf i remember gink was looking for you
/anyways
xD good luck with that! have fun studyinh!
eden concept
but was the Act lll added?
about 22 mètres

/that's long
beeeeeg boyes
I apparently missed a conversation on heights
/chonky 22 meter
what about whales tho 
Whales l a r g e
/ we never actualy got closse to a whale
/ sneep Alice
I've heard a rumour that mods don't know what sneep snorp is because they're always here 
wait so in the eden concept, the king was supposed to show??
is he gonna show somewhere in the future 
/yea and he was gonnathrow spears at us
sounds fun 
it's implied that the king is in-game actually 👁️ just not in the way you think
/ ~~sound like my phone is gonna burn ~~
/ i mean my phone laggs hard with current eden already
it's implied that the king is in-game actually 👁️ just not in the way you think
/well we do see king propaganda in game
you are not immune to propaganda
/bricky made a compliation of king stuff around the game i remember
some of it, yes
you are not immune to propaganda
/i want my king propaganda
im gonna have to update it with valley, vault, and eden/ascent at some point but i’m lazy
how big is the king 
/mecha big
Imagine if there a hat with "king propaganda" lol
wait THATS how big he is??
/ he could been real smol tho
oh I remember
statues might not be accurate to his actual height
ohh
/ i like the "king is in a mecha " theory
king is three skids and a chibi in a cape
he was always drawn as much larger than the other elders in the concept art, so we just kinda rolled with the idea that he might actually be the size of the battlefield statues 
i like to think he's in a gigantic mech suit to match his gigantic ego 


