lore-discussion-spoilers

[steep coyote]

Maybe the purple one is also "Memory"

[pearl void]

Yeah we argued that at the beginning of season, from memory and eventually to time

[hushed steeple]

I think the rumour pointing to those jelly mose?

[drifting copper]

time makes more sense because you can’t make a memory materialise ksbdndbdjd

[hushed steeple]

Idk what that's name

[pearl void]

Ah, because it materializes a memory from the past?
@hushed steeple yes yes 😊

[drifting copper]

time reversal in a single area starts to make sense with the thing about us not going through these kingdoms in a straight timeline djhdjdh

[uncut bone]

Knowledge.

That sounds good.

Knowledge.

[pearl void]

It symbolise it not necessarily have things to do with it, for me it's just a colour

[uncut bone]

Maybe not time or space, but knowledge is the purple one.

[drifting copper]

so the purple orb helps materialise the actual memories in a way

time is making more sense for me atm

i was thinking knowledge at first but now it doesn’t work skdhdjdh

[woven tundra]

Yeah, knowledge making Market stalls appear doesn't really make sense?

[pearl void]

Time/wisdom as i mention earlier, because it walks on a fine line between those two

[drifting copper]

yeah

[pearl void]

And yet knowledge wisdom and time is corelated don't you think, it somehow connects each other

[woven tundra]

The typos in the first sentence, woah

[pearl void]

😋 😋

I got huge fingers and small screen

[torpid hatch]

Back, so.. i need to scroll and read first gotta catch up with y'all

Hmm it's possible?? How do you mine light though

[woven tundra]

Oh Geralt, what you mentioned in your message is beta content, so delete that please

[cold steppe]

Gentle reminder that there are no names in live yet

So we can’t discuss it

If it’s not an official feature in live, it doesn’t belong here

[nova tiger]

Okay so.

[woven tundra]

I made this theory myself, but I think the lights from Enchantment were gifted by the Lightseekers people, as in the murals they show a Lightseekers person gifting them a light of sorts to the Vault people, who researched on those lights and found out how to put Elements of sorts into those Lights

[cold steppe]

@ember zodiac can you please remove your message?

[nova tiger]

I took these stuff from lyst and wishy's messages in a group chat we are in

and okay time to share

[hushed steeple]

@woven tundra agree

[drifting copper]

agreed wishy

anyway nico fire away

[nova tiger]

• I think the librarians become spellcasters through the books/memory cubes/diamonds, well spellcasters and librarians are the same when you take in ark’s storyline.
• The librarians they mentioned don’t actually do what actual librarians in vault do sjdhdjdh they record events that’s happened throughout the kingdom, constantly revising them whenever needed, keeping important ones secret (the archives)
• couriers though
  that stuff just
  out the window
  goodbye

[woven tundra]

If you need evidence
https://imgur.com/a/nv4cz8H
here it is

[nova tiger]

oh

[torpid hatch]

Sorry for the sudden interruption- but uhh
I tidied up my essay from earlier, of course there will be changes in the future since i wrote this at 3am and based off my own perspective, and my current knowledge.. (which is not much haha,,) so feedback is greatly appreciated ✨
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Dx6ggrhZMg-6rE2zaVN1NuYAUa9zqTMCLGmF1lQ_tmg/edit?usp=drivesdk

[drifting copper]

lmao good timing myi

nico edited my feedback so she’s sending it in

[nova tiger]

Random stuff :

• even if they had laws it won’t be followed cause most of the spirits are enslaved, my guy
• also the elders are and forest elder made a big diamond which would fit in the category of illegal weapons that’s sponsored by prairie elder
• also also the spirits can't fly. Megabird made us, and told us that we should rescue them, and how the elders never listened
• the elders aren’t gods they're just spirits, but gigantamax. they just have godly powers gained through unnatural transformation of light and dark, mostly dark through wasteland
• starting to think the war that happened in wasteland was from slavery and stuff cause who wouldnt be annoyed that they have to do things for giant people day and night without rest

[torpid hatch]

Oh ok wait let me process that

[nova tiger]

Valley :

• Valley is basically the Golden Era in the whole Sky Kingdom/Realms, peak of civilization.
• I also think the prize for winning in the valley's races would be entry to the old Golden Wasteland before it was a wasteland because of the message that pops up.
• the valley isn’t a city, it’s more like a research center posing as an entertainment center to hide the fact that they’re using enslaved people for their stuff. Citadel looks even more like a research center, with the orrery being one of those Orbit circles you make in 3rd grade.
• the kingdom didn’t even have a currency and if they did what would you use that for though it’s home to enslaved people so it’s like if a war ever broke out the enslaved would be the first to die

eyyy

my eyes hurt trying to fix all of that cause i was looking out for "stuff"

[cold steppe]

That’s... darker than I expected

[woven tundra]

The entertainment is hiding all the dark stuff

[drifting copper]

shdhdbshssh

[cold steppe]

I have to say it makes sense (think Hunger Games, I guess)

[nova tiger]

crap

[woven tundra]

How you successfully hide your dark secrets to everyone

[nova tiger]

i forgot the bullet points

one sec

[cold steppe]

But I kind of doubt TGC would include that as a backstory

[drifting copper]

i mostly referenced modern government so it’s not really good

also it’s somehow reminding me of the American Civil War skdbdjdhdh

[woven tundra]

tbh Valley is a huge mix of things, Entertaintment, Research, Homes, etc.

[torpid hatch]

Tysm for the feedback!! I'll keep that in mind and maybe tweak it some more so it can fit into a comic, cause i also haven't made the characters etc etc

i mostly referenced modern government so it’s not really good

Yeah i was trying to make it look like the government is being secretive and dark and— oof basically yeah urhrhjs

[drifting copper]

also dunno if i added it there but the winged light children you see is the same kid you hug at eden

[torpid hatch]

Yeah that's true

[drifting copper]

so there’s just one survivor of the previous batch of skykids

[unborn fog]

batch alskjdflkajsdf

[drifting copper]

ba t c h

also if you want a government hiding dark things it’s best to read about the fashion industry labor and prison labor in the US (which is a pretty touchy subject atm )

[torpid hatch]

Ooooo hoHO time to pull an all nighter thinking and frying my brain

[drifting copper]

sjdbsjdbjshdhe

[torpid hatch]

Also this is my first time talking in this channel it was very nice discussing with you guys :D

[woven tundra]

Welcome to the place where we all share our braincells to make theories then!

[drifting copper]

welcome to the channel we constantly make scrambled eggs

i haven’t been here much but i read most of the stuff

[woven tundra]

I've only lurked here once and again

[torpid hatch]

Wahhh tysm for the welcome!

[drifting copper]

sjdhdhdhdj idk what i’m contributing

[unborn fog]

am i late for the welcome-

[drifting copper]

nah

[unborn fog]

welcome myi to the lore channel!

[torpid hatch]

welcome to the channel we constantly make scrambled eggs

Wait is that an inside joke here or?? I'm sorry ushsjsj

[normal berry]

the scrambled eggs are my brain cells

[torpid hatch]

Oh i see

[drifting copper]

sndhjdhdsj

scrambled eggs refers to our braincells during a brainstorming session

[hushed steeple]

Guess i missed the welcome moment

[normal berry]

oh i hope the new season has more lore

[drifting copper]

same

it’s already pretty interesting that you can reverse time in an area using orbs of light skdhdjdhd

[woven tundra]

I can't wait to make another imgur gallery just 2 days after it's released

[normal berry]

I cant wait to inevitably buy an adventure pass for one singular item i want

[torpid hatch]

Guess i missed the welcome moment

Urhrhrjjd that's okay you're the first one to react to my essay so you made a good first impression to me

[hushed steeple]

I tried to imagine how will be golden wasteland look like if that fully recovered

[torpid hatch]

I'm gonna go and like- read a bunch of theories now

[normal berry]

yeah i imagine Egypt and the nile

[woven tundra]

Now I want to listen to Gerudo Valley OST for the 50th time,

[hushed steeple]

What's that

[drifting copper]

well i like to think wasteland was pretty big and advanced cause it was a factory site and a city from what i could tell

wishy were you there for the 10 hours of rito village dkdhdjdhdj

[woven tundra]

Gerudo Desert is just a location is Legend of Zelda games, don't worry

[normal berry]

I imagine it like this where all the black tar turned to water and its still kinda desert-y but theres life and vegetation near the water

[drifting copper]

evdjegdjehd

steampunk wasteland

[woven tundra]

It wouldn't be much of a wasteland if it's rehealed, so what would the name be

[normal berry]

golden desert?

[nova tiger]

shores of MANNA

[torpid hatch]

I can't think up of anything

[nova tiger]

[woven tundra]

I had to google this before, but apparently Manna is a sort of food?

[nova tiger]

shores of manna was old wasteland in lim live

[hushed steeple]

Manna mean a drink which makes you immortal

[woven tundra]

Yeah, some Limited live names had religious backgrounds before it was taken out

[hushed steeple]

But what's the relation between immortal drink and wasteland

[drifting copper]

eidhjdhdje you had to make the pun

[woven tundra]

Maybe immortality is Vault?

[drifting copper]

vault of light

[ember zodiac]

@ember zodiac can you please remove your message?
@cold steppe Oh sure.. I thought everything could be discussed in here including beta

[drifting copper]

also wasteland reminds me of native american cities djhdjdhdsjh

[woven tundra]

Beta Content, stays in beta channels

[ember zodiac]

What's this pot?

[drifting copper]

leftover

[woven tundra]

a fully ascended spirit

[hushed steeple]

It's from old beta

[drifting copper]

LMAO

[hushed steeple]

Which gives you quests

Idk

[ember zodiac]

😂 Wine pot for Elders

[drifting copper]

it was for an old quest though that’s all i know

oh no we’ve all died djdddh

[woven tundra]

[drifting copper]

i feel like wasteland gets a lot of theories everytime this channel’s lively

vault’s mysterious and yet we never theorise about it enough djdbbdhddh

[hushed steeple]

I'm reading those pinned msgs

Seems interesting

Why so many secrets 🤢

[normal berry]

I suppose they were meant to be implemented later on

that is, if they actually went through with this...landscape

but this makes me wonder what a map of the current game would look like?

[hushed steeple]

So many stories are waiting to uncover in future

[normal berry]

I wonder what desert is? it would be easy to say an old wasteland. but isn't that dusk?

[hushed steeple]

Concept art

[drifting copper]

an outdated concept art but it does still count for most of the flow we follow

[hushed steeple]

Was honking around ..... And found this

Powered diamond?

[cold steppe]

Concept art was more for ideas for the story than an actual reality of the game

[hushed steeple]

Umm that's not spirit ... I guess you can see it .. after all it's on a skull

Maybe

[fickle tundra]

What if those creatures that the bones belonged to where fused with power diamonds during war times ?

And it’s due to the power diamonds that they grew exponentially?

[hushed steeple]

The war was horrible then

[tall fog]

I really hope this next season gives us more lore!

[simple hare]

is office stuff a spoiler too around here?

[lament nest]

Was this channel always here? Omg 😭

[hushed steeple]

This channel itself a spoiler
So no need to spoiler tag

[simple hare]

oh alright XD

I just found a ghost thingy in office

it's kinda weird

[winter girder]

Why so many secrets 🤢
@hushed steeple what is this

[simple hare]

it looks like a capeless skykid with a squid as legs

[hushed steeple]

@simple hare that area is just an Easter egg soo i don't think it has any lore

[simple hare]

oki uwu

[lament nest]

I was today years old when I found out that wasteland’s graveyard had 4 exits.

[hushed steeple]

@winter girder an old concept art you can find that in pinned msgs..

[normal berry]

four? i've only counted three

[lament nest]

I just wonder how they have big pipes when the city is probably made of chalk stone and gravel

I mean, the pipes are metal

[bitter coral]

🦁

@lament nest you seem familiar

[simple hare]

can we talk about vault ples like what is the actual meaning of it? what was it when the spirits still lived there?

[lament nest]

four? i've only counted three
@normal berry There are four. I went through the fourth one that looked like a big hall. Let me log in and take some pics

[normal berry]

ooh u dont need to but ty ty

[lament nest]

@lament nest you seem familiar
@bitter coral sshhhhh 🌚👀

can we talk about vault ples like what is the actual meaning of it? what was it when the spirits still lived there?
@simple hare
Vault seems like a resting place for the elders and spirits. I noticed that each spirit is dedicated on activities that are related to honoring the dead.

[pearl void]

Ghost thingy

[simple hare]

yess

[tidal thistle]

I just saw the umbrella ts yesterday

I hope thats the next ts

Hopefully

[pearl void]

can we talk about vault ples like what is the actual meaning of it? what was it when the spirits still lived there?
@simple hare i posted my lore for vault before, have a read if you're interested

#lore-discussion-spoilers message

[celest spoke]

Graveyard exits (not incl entrance thru krill swamp): two diff pipes to shipwreck near entrance (obvious constellation-gated pipe + another one above it to the right), gated wind tunnel to shipwreck near krabobs, big staircase to battlefield

[celest spoke]

Ya

[pearl void]

can we talk about vault ples like what is the actual meaning of it? what was it when the spirits still lived there?
@simple hare and also more lore related to vault that might inspire you 😉

#lore-discussion-spoilers message

[lament nest]

Who is Megabird?

[hushed steeple]

Giant light creature
source of light?

You can find megabird's pic in game

[lament nest]

I guess the purple light is for wisdom since it’s found underground and “It is said that they hoard ancient secrets”

[bitter coral]

What is the story of dead bird in valley?

[hushed steeple]

@bitter coral that's just a old beta stuff... For quests

[bitter coral]

They should put it back!

[lament nest]

I’m sorry. I’m back reading so much stuff
I’ll just read them quietly now 🙊

[normal berry]

do you guys think its possible that there is/was more of whatever species the elders are

[zinc arrow]

i dont think so

[round musk]

I think it might be possible, considering there's a whole night sky filled with stars, and the elders we save are just the six/seven that fell

Ooooh I just had a thought

[zinc arrow]

other than the king (there was going to be an eden elder in old concept art but theres no trace of them in the game so) if u believe that, then nah

[round musk]

The valley elders are like a binary star system! Always pushing and pulling, competing for dominance

That's why they count as one elder, because they are part of the same solar system

[hushed steeple]

Solar system

@round musk dude you just remind me that old beta valley elder cutscene
In that cutscene those elders was spinning together like binary solar system

[round musk]

Oh wow that's true

I didn't even consider that

[hushed steeple]

You should check that video

[round musk]

Yeah I just watched it yesterday

The Valley cutscene was upstaging the rest lol

Probably why they cut it

[frozen pivot]

Theres no glass in sky right?

[hushed steeple]

Nope....

Beta contents should stay on beta channel

Please delete your message

[frozen pivot]

Well technically, event spirits are relevant to the lore

[hushed steeple]

We can't talk about that in live channel... Delete your messages please

[frozen pivot]

Does that includes lore channel? Cus this channel allows spoil so thatd be odd

U can call a mod so they can tell me otherwise

[hushed steeple]

Yup.... According to the rules

[frozen pivot]

I reread the rules earlier

[hushed steeple]

So you need a warning from mods?

Wow

[frozen pivot]

Atleast this channels rules

[exotic shuttle]

!betaspoilers

[pastel brook]

Content from the beta is considered a spoiler and shouldn’t be posted in this channel. To ask or post about it, scroll down to the beta-related channels like #beta-discussion and #beta-screenshots-videos. Thank you!

[frozen pivot]

Not necessarily but id rather be sure so i wont do it next time

Oh

I see

[zealous sedge]

Basically yeah, we hold off discussing beta spoilers in here until it goes live. Keep those thoughts in a jar for now, you can release them all in a couple of weeks.

[hot gyro]

whoa thanks for providing the canon lore doc
finally have the answers to a few things i was wondering about

[hushed steeple]

Your name

[hot gyro]

okay here's a super important sky question

how can you play the horn if you don't have a mouth

[tranquil thicket]

how can a mask make you shrink

[west moss]

are there any theories confirmed by TGC?

[desert sun]

t really

as far as i know

[west moss]

oof

so all the theories in this channel are not confirmed?

[desert sun]

yea its just theories for the most part

occasionally a dev will give us a cryptic hint

thats abt it

[west moss]

so we will never know the history of Sky

[desert sun]

oh we will...... maybe just not now

i dont think the devs are evil enough to completely leave us in the dark forever

[west moss]

yeah ik but theres a lot of mystery and 0 theories confirmed by the moment

[desert sun]

thats how we roll 😎

what fun would it be if we had the answer to everything all the time

although i do wish wed get answers to maybe one thing we got right... we need more bases to start building theories on

[west moss]

exactlyy!

[desert sun]

but its best to work with what we have for now

[hushed steeple]

.. ...

[desert sun]

on the subject of theories

why are there crabs in the sunlight

i thought crabs whole thing was that they stay in damp dark places

do they just need to be near water?

[west moss]

i have a basic question but... what haooened to Wasteland? Its such a dark place

and why the krills are in Wl (and Eden) and not it Forest or any other realm?

[hushed steeple]

why are there crabs in the sunlight
@desert sun where you saw them in sunlight?

[desert sun]

in the trailer!

[hushed steeple]

.....

Be patient

[desert sun]

NOOO

i gotta talk about it n o w

[hushed steeple]

We can't

[shell flame]

What is this place for?I mean, what do you do here?

[stuck flame]

This place is for lore discussion and spoilers

[shell flame]

Oh nice, I'm a beta tester, I can help

[stuck flame]

Ouuu that’s great

[shell flame]

Or maybe I'm not supposed to be here😂

[stuck flame]

No no

Everyone’s supposed to be here, unless you don’t want to be spoiled

[cold steppe]

beta content still isn't allowed here

[shell flame]

Oh, I only want to make spoilers

[stuck flame]

Can we discuss beta content?

[cold steppe]

beta content should only be in the beta channels

[shell flame]

beta content still isn't allowed here
@cold steppe that's it. Bye bye

[cold steppe]

you're still welcome here! you just can't discuss beta

[stuck flame]

Ohhh Okayy

[cold steppe]

you can talk about what is in the trailer, but no more details than what is in that

[shell flame]

you're still welcome here! you just can't discuss beta
@cold steppe yes, of course, but I already know the things you are talking about

[cold steppe]

the spoilers part refers to Eden and the office

[shell flame]

you can talk about what is in the trailer, but no more details than what is in that
@cold steppe there's a trailer? Oh nice

[cold steppe]

lore doesn't just refer to the new stuff either

lore includes the entire history of Sky

at least, what we know already and can glean from the information

[shell flame]

lore doesn't just refer to the new stuff either
@cold steppe ok ok, that makes sense

[cold steppe]

have you heard the power diamond theory?

[shell flame]

have you heard the power diamond theory?
@cold steppe Nope, but it sounds interesting

[cold steppe]

there's a couple different variations, but the basic premise is that the power diamonds/darkstone are what power the technology in Sky (doors, boats, etc.)

it gets a little murkier after that, but supposedly Prairie supplied the raw materials (like butterflies), Forest either refined or created the diamonds, and Wasteland did something similar

also, the giant diamond in Eden that's spewing light and red rocks is supposedly a giant power diamond

[shell flame]

it gets a little murkier after that, but supposedly Prairie supplied the raw materials (like butterflies), Forest either refined or created the diamonds, and Wasteland did something similar
@cold steppe nice!

[cold steppe]

the devs confirmed that power diamonds contributed to the fall of the Sky civilization

but it's unclear about exactly how they were involved

[shell flame]

Wow, thanks for informing me!

[cold steppe]

there's a bunch of other theories, some of which are in the pins of this channel. it's pretty cool to explore

[stuck flame]

This channel is great for this stuff, especially when you’re interested in the murals and the ancestors’ stories

I still can’t believe I didn’t know sky had a discord for this after playing for 6 months lmao

[desert sun]

i hope we get jellyfish lore as well! theyre one of the most mysterious animals in sky

[stuck flame]

Yesss

[hot gyro]

what exactly are the white particles flowing into the doorway to the battlefield?

[cold steppe]

they're supposed to be birds

well, the krill may target mantas

as we see the manta get krilled in the first area

there's butterflies in graveyard

[hot gyro]

oh interestng

they aren't as detailed as the other birds in the game

they kinda just look like little diamonds

[ember zodiac]

Why do sky kids glow blue for a moment when they launch themselves to start flying?

Most noticeable in Wastelands

[open sable]

anyone know what these eggs in hidden forest could be?

[ocean ibex]

I was wondering that too @open sable maybe they’re manta eggs..?

[ember zodiac]

They are literal easter eggs

[north siren]

ive been

but i dont remember

Where exactly

[tranquil thicket]

geralt i think it's most noticable in wasteland because of how dark it is. if you notice when you stand in polluted water blue particles drip from you into the water as well

i think the blue color is just symbolic of loss of light (use in flight, or absorbed by water)

[heady sinew]

Season of Sanctuary has a Manta logo

Omg just saw the trailer I'm so hyped

I bet it's gonna have a lot of Manta lore. With a bit of forest/prairie too?

Fish tails or towers maybe. Cross definetely has something, like a treasure!

[nocturne drum]

it looks like foxes!

[simple bronze]

hodari?!

[tranquil thicket]

foxes...

[violet lily]

All I can think of is X marks the spot 😂

[round river]

Aren't beta contents shouldn't be in this channel 👀

[spark notch]

yeah that should probably be in beta discussion

[round river]

Why so many secrets 🤢
@hushed steeple
So my guessing might be right then😂
That we may have a lots of seasons with new places unlock and then we might get a special season of a clue on how to save the king
Then that's the start of chapter 2

[ruby acorn]

@hushed steeple just a reminder that beta content that hasn’t been released to live can’t be shared or discussed outside of the beta channels.

[hushed steeple]

Sorry! I’ll delete the message!

[cold steppe]

if it's in the trailer, it's ok

[spring blaze]

yall can talk about whats been shown in the trailer, but if you talk about what isnt, its still in beta!

[cold steppe]

ginsy, you beat me

[unborn fog]

did someone say beta spoilers

[cold steppe]

not anymore

[spring blaze]

luckily, as far as i know, people have been preeettyy respectful abt beta stuff in this channel so its usually not that big of a deal

[heady sinew]

Yeah you don't see beta spoilers too often here. Good job guys!

The trailer looks so pretty and I'm already so excited to see what this new season will bring

Since this one has a summery vibe I feel like it's gonna go into detail about how spirits relax and what they do on their free time

[spring blaze]

yeah! the prairie normal spirits memories shows them all working so its nice to see some of them on vacation

[worn hill]

someone please explain to me the story of this game (golden wasteland and eden are the most important ones)

[noble ferry]

people believe that a civil war happened in golden wasteland. what exactly happened, idk. one theory i heard is the two shields theory, found in the ideas and theories google doc in pins.
people say the broken diamond in eden is the reason for eden to have become like that. devs said power diamonds are the reason that civilization fell. so the broken diamond probably caused the death of all the spirits.

[worn hill]

a war between the spirits and who

[noble ferry]

idk but it definitely wasn't the krill

[hot gyro]

so the spirit at the top of the ice rink
their memories show a child who isn't there in the present day
what happened to the child? D:

[mellow willow]

Hey, people.. I wanna ask if anyone of you has ever seen this before to tell if it's always been there or just recently appeared..

A golden vase on the first floor of the Vault.

[feral surge]

I have kinda a similar question but opposite... are all the bird statues removed from the game? Where do they remain, if any?

[round river]

That vast is side quest from old beta

[mellow willow]

That vast is side quest from old beta
@round river

Awesome, thanks!

[round river]

You r welcome 🤗

[hushed steeple]

Bird statue

[mellow willow]

Do you mean the dead manta bird on the Valley or the check point bird statue like ones in the last area in the Forest?

[hushed steeple]

Oooooo got it those bird statues were from old beta.....

[feral surge]

I’m not sure if I have any good screenshots of them I didn’t take note of them, but there used to be one in wasteland next to the ducking spirit

Yeah I think they were referencing the aviary when that still existed and I was just curious if any were left

[hushed steeple]

There's also 1 beside the 1st temple in swamp area of forest

[feral surge]

I wasn’t sure where in the discord to ask this question but this seemed like the best place

[hushed steeple]

Well as far i remember in aviary that statue worked as instruments shrine?

[feral surge]

Something like that

But there used to be several all over the place but they seem to all be purged... I think the one you mentioned in the forest is gone too but I’ll check

[hushed steeple]

Those are now works as return shrine.
But we don't really need anykind of return shrine (except home one)

[feral surge]

Okay that one in Forest is still there thank you! I was just wondering since the direct reference to the aviary might be interesting lore wise, maybe not though

[hushed steeple]

If it has any lore i don't know

[modest sequoia]

That is the megabird, and you will respect his feathery flyness

[hushed steeple]

Really?

[modest sequoia]

Bird statue lore was all the rage... December? I think?
I can't remember what we decided on, butbit definitely a statue to represent Mr. Megabird himself

Herself?

Oh god! We forgot about god-birds gender?!

[hushed steeple]

Whatever

[modest sequoia]

I like to think mama-bird

[round river]

I think it's a he
Refer to the narrator voice
I.....guessss

I don't know

[heady sinew]

REIKA ADDED A HEART REACTION TO MY SEASON OF SANCTUARY THEORY??? A

Combusting

[hushed steeple]

Spoiler

[heady sinew]

Me? should I delete anything?

[hushed steeple]

Lol i don't think you've to delete..
But why not discuss about new season after that goes live?

As only trailer can't give us much info

[heady sinew]

I wasn't talking about beta content, sorry for the misunderstanding aaa

[hushed steeple]

I know that

[ember zodiac]

Oh god! We forgot about god-birds gender?!
@modest sequoia I think it doesn't have any gender...

[heady sinew]

I'm only using the trailer and the season pass logo

Megarbid can be like the spirits

It's up to the player

[hushed steeple]

No gender no argument

[sly kestrel]

It was defined as a female in the concepts

[hushed steeple]

Jay

[sly kestrel]

I think it's a he
Refer to the narrator voice
I.....guessss
@round river how can you be so sure that the megabird is the narrator

[hushed steeple]

Glad you came back

[lethal stump]

wait what narrator ?

there’s a narrator ?

[heady sinew]

Only on the beginning video

The one that shows up when you open the game for the very first time

(there's a youtube link pinned here to watch it again if you wanna)

[hushed steeple]

So was watching that intro.... And just noticed .. all 6 stars fell from sky except that middle one(eden elder/king/prince)?

[hushed steeple]

Dead chat

Bruh it’s 3 am for the east coast what do you expect

[round river]

how can you be so sure that the megabird is the narrator
@sly kestrel
I didn't say that im sure dude🧐
I'm just guessing

Anyway
What do you guys think about that different 6 cube
The most secret information?🤔

[raw barn]

6 dead bodies

[pearl void]

Season of Sanctuary!

Anyway
What do you guys think about that different 6 cube
The most secret information?🤔
@round river empty jar

[fickle tundra]

Wait what if the vault of knowledge is actually just a huge mausoleum? A place where the past spirits can Rest In Peace ? 🤨🤭 and the vault elder is just a curator of sorts?

[hushed steeple]

Mega bird

[round river]

6 dead bodies
@raw barn
Wonder how that gonna fit👀

[raw barn]

crushed dead bodies

[round river]

empty jar
@pearl void
Ouhh that might be too😯

[fading bear]

oh no that got dark

[round river]

That's scary
Dead body among knowledge 😖

[fading bear]

I wish we would be able to activate some of the knowledge things

I think I've seen concept somewhere that they would work like some kind of projector

It would be pretty scary if they contained the ashes of the spirits

Wait a minute, I just saw something while playing through Praire. The big mantas that carry you up to the temple leave a trail of particles behind. Just like the Krill

Only the particles the Mantas leave behind are more like sparkles or something

[frozen pivot]

I think mantas and krills are similar but on the opposite sides

Both can phase through solid terrain, and both are interactable(u gain light from mantas and lose them with krills)

[hushed steeple]

We don't know if whales recharges our cape

[frozen pivot]

They dont

[hushed steeple]

But that's a light creature

[frozen pivot]

And theyre collidable

Idk if thays a word

Try flying fast enough in orbit where the structures are still crumbling

[hushed steeple]

Lol i was guessing that

But think about it deeply

[frozen pivot]

Theres a whale that rekts building, u can actually hit it

If anything, whales would be similar to crabs because they both have physical bodies

Tho im not sure about the crabs regarding that

I just based that on the fact that we can hold them

Whale recharging light wouldnt make sense

They dont emit light themselves

Like manta does

[hushed steeple]

Wait a second

[frozen pivot]

Kinda how crabs dont automatically absorbs ur light when u go near them like krills

[nimble stump]

Ok but what if whales are the uncorrupted version of krills

[raw barn]

i think crabs are neutrals

[hushed steeple]

#lore-discussion-spoilers message

[frozen pivot]

Nah

[hushed steeple]

#lore-discussion-spoilers message

[frozen pivot]

If thats the case then the krills shouldnt be able to phase through walls

[raw barn]

a glitch maybe

[frozen pivot]

I dont get wat that trying to say, but ye everyone has their own understanding of things

I didnt even know this was already discussed

[raw barn]

tgc needs to release the lore 😭

[frozen pivot]

But i didnt say u will lose light qhen u hit the whale, i just said it wouldnt recharge ur light

Atleast thats wat i got from u sending that post link

[hushed steeple]

Idk man just theories.... Nothing is confirmed

[round river]

Wait what if the vault of knowledge is actually just a huge mausoleum? A place where the past spirits can Rest In Peace ? 🤨🤭 and the vault elder is just a curator of sorts?
@fickle tundra
Kinda interesting
But since it was named as knowledge maybe that's cube was dead spirits memories and their dead body buried down there
And any dangerous information was hide in archives 🤔👀

[hushed steeple]

Maybe information about that hidden dark octopus of ark

[fickle tundra]

@round river now I want a catacombs level, that would be really interesting but also really unlikely to see

[fading bear]

it would be so cool to have something like that

maybe it could even be in Isle (but a little primitive or something)

[cold steppe]

I believe the devs have addressed the Vault of Knowledge, and there’s some info in the canon lore doc about it.

[round river]

now I want a catacombs level, that would be really interesting but also really unlikely to see
@fickle tundra
There is a tunnel behind the spirit in that catacombs
What if......
There is hidden door in that tunnel lead to other tombs

[hushed steeple]

Guys guys guys..... A moth type question .... But I'm highly curious..
What's the language of that song when we enters isle or after entering the last gate of orbit.... (If you don't skip the credit you can listen the full song)

Wondering if that song is in ancient sky language

[waxen elbow]

I think some people tried to translate the orbit one

And to what I read, that's probably Sky language

[hushed steeple]

We need a sky translator

[waxen elbow]

I think it's around here somewhere

Wait lemme find

[hushed steeple]

Sky translator??????????????????

[waxen elbow]

Well someone tried to

https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/632004389137154048/634031400445542440

[hushed steeple]

Ty for this

[waxen elbow]

No problem

[hushed steeple]

I guess I've not asked a moth type question
Felling like
XD

[dapper pond]

It could be the singer own language
The singer name is Aurora, she is mainly known for singing in her own made up language called "hopelandic"

Or like what Hyde said, there's a chance TGC created it too

[hushed steeple]

Hope-land-ic nice name

[dapper pond]

The language have no literal meaning if alone, but it can change with the energy you put in
And it's made from her emotions too

Based from one of her tweet

[hushed steeple]

Impressive

[waxen elbow]

Interesting

Well actually all lore-related stuffs are interesting...

[grim python]

Idk if this has already been observed before but

[eager shore]

It could be the singer own language
The singer name is Aurora, she is mainly known for singing in her own made up language called "hopelandic"
@dapper pond is that the same Aurora who sang as the spirit in Frozen 2's 'Into the Unknown'? Becuause I love her music, and I had no idea that was her

[polar whale]

@dapper pond is that the same Aurora who sang as the spirit in Frozen 2's 'Into the Unknown'? Becuause I love her music, and I had no idea that was her
@eager shore I heard that it is the same Aurora

[eager shore]

N I C E, thank you @polar whale!

[polar whale]

No problem @eager shore

[dapper pond]

Yes, it's the same like Wulfgar said

[eager shore]

Wonderful

[worn hill]

is the broken diamond a spirit? i saw someone saying eden was a king or prince who didn't fell if so is the diamond the eden king or what

[normal berry]

Nah the diamond was a power source of sorts, I don't know the specifics

eden is the place

the king/prince is long gone

or never existed at all in the current game, there is no confirmation that he still exists

[celest spoke]

Hmmm, wrt vault cemetery theory, the word for a building that stores lots of of cremated ashes is “columbarium” which is based on the Latin word for “pigeon/dove” b/c walls of the lil niches for each ash urn are exactly like the nesting cubbies in old dovecotes

So it’s almost like a phoenix metaphor too

And now we need a Hatoful Boyfriend crossover

[hushed steeple]

Someone typing

[ashen jacinth]

I'm sure this has been brought up before I'm too lazy to ready through all the messages haha- do we know what the relationship is between Sky Kids and Spirits?

[hushed steeple]

Like water in desert

[ashen jacinth]

Hahaha

I want do make a fan comic about Sky but I don't know enough about the lore...

[hushed steeple]

As far i remember spirits and skykids are different species

Idk much about it

[ember zodiac]

@hushed steeple
So my guessing might be right then😂
That we may have a lots of seasons with new places unlock and then we might get a special season of a clue on how to save the king
Then that's the start of chapter 2
@round river Uh.... If they decide to make a sequel game... What would happen to this game?

As far i remember spirits and skykids are different species
@hushed steeple Hmm.. Spirits are maybe human like species.. and skykids maybe Angels or Demigods

[hushed steeple]

We were talking about an outdated concept art so....

Hmm.. Spirits are maybe human like species.. and skykids maybe Angels or Demigods
Maybe

[ashen jacinth]

@hushed steeple oh yeah that kinda makes sense :0

[cold steppe]

I don’t think vault was used to store remains. Just knowledge

[unreal pier]

A que hora dan la pista del viajero?

[hushed steeple]

Server is English only@unreal pier

[unreal pier]

Is there any in Spanish that is official of thatgamecompany?

[hushed steeple]

Jay give us some wisdom

[unreal pier]

sky sends me to this discord, how sad

well, any clue of the traveler?

[sly kestrel]

No

It’ll be announced in #news once there’s a traveler coming

[ashen jacinth]

If y'all dont mind me asking the moth questions, why did it say in the beginning, after saying they lived among the clouds, "if only they knew"?

[grave dust]

Corruption

[ashen jacinth]

Who is the they? Is that the race of spirits?

[grave dust]

Elders

[ashen jacinth]

Thanks for your help btw!!

They is the elders? And are they the same race as the spirits?

[sly kestrel]

no

[grave dust]

Elders are like the main leaders

Spirits are more like the child ancestors

[ashen jacinth]

But they are different races then...?

[sly kestrel]

Spirits aren’t related to skykids in any way

[ashen jacinth]

Sorry- I'm asking now if the elders and the spirits are related :)

[grave dust]

Here’s what they did:

[sly kestrel]

Those aren’t either

That’s an old concept, none of that is canon

[grave dust]

Trapped creatures to create batteries. That why there are butterflies in jars

[ashen jacinth]

Unfortunately I can't read it either way...

[hushed steeple]

They made that giant powered diamond. In eden... Which corrupted

[ashen jacinth]

Ooohhhh

So why are the sky kids going there??

If I'm spamming and I need to stop let me know!

[raven pollen]

Hey guys, I made an observation the other day that I think is kinda interesting

The door to the second part of Eden is exactly the same as the one in ile temple

Cracks and everything

Really?
I just took that screenshot a couple days ago...

Oh btw I adjusted the screenshot brightness a bit so you could see the details a bit better

I hope that's ok

Wat

Jay why u delete?

Lmao

[ashen jacinth]

Hey sorry to spam but why are the sky kids going to eden?

[raven pollen]

Presumably to save the souls trapped in the shrines I think

Like of the shiny bois

[hushed steeple]

You're not spamming@ashen jacinth
I told you before

[ashen jacinth]

Haha thanks I just don't exactly know how discord works. You did? I guess i didn't see the message

[raven pollen]

If anything I've been spamming lol

[ashen jacinth]

How did the souls get there in the first place??

[raven pollen]

Idk :/

Maybe they died there?

[grave dust]

Yeah it reminds me of Pompei

[ashen jacinth]

Huh... They also look like Sky Kids

[grave dust]

Have you completed Eden yet? Dont want to spoil anything. Valley was the peak of their civilization

[spring blaze]

its ok to talk about spoilers here

its in the name of the channel!

[ashen jacinth]

Yeah I've completed it. This is research for my comic haha

[grave dust]

oOo Well it seems like Eden was just a flourishing city and then the diamond blew up

[ashen jacinth]

Oh!!

[grave dust]

and froze the kiddos as they were

[ashen jacinth]

A city of sky kids you think?

[grave dust]

Possibly

From what I've read in the concept art there were only a handful of Ancients/Elders making decisions

Ruining it for everyone else 😛

Maybe they thought they were doing what was best to advance technology

The Ancients didnt possess the ability to fly so the skykids are different

[hushed steeple]

Is there any reason for the "islands" to be in the sky inside clouds? Or it's just because the islands have always been like this?

[grave dust]

The ones we play have capes and the ones in Eden dont

[fiery dock]

Anyone have a folder or a place to read up on fun lore?

[hushed steeple]

Pins📌

[fiery dock]

perf thankies. been reading up before

[hushed steeple]

What is this?

Not sky kid

[spring blaze]

theorized to be krill horns

there’s two of them

[normal berry]

Ok but why are the cracks the same?

on the door

[hushed steeple]

Krill horns......

[normal berry]

now that you mention thats really interesting

[hushed steeple]

Maybe way of birth = way of death
Life cycle🔄

[normal berry]

ah so something metaphorical rather than literal

[grave dust]

A friend & I were joking that the Ark was destroyed because they were capitalists

Lore hint from Ash:
“A fun crab lore fact: there's a specific reason for the way that Sky's crabs walk the way they do. their walkcycle mimics something... Its the walk cycle, but what that mimics is also relating to what the crabs are, technically. How crabs are born/made/created/come to be. What are crabs 🦀”

Also, was wondering what yall think the crabs are mimicking. Could they be what's left of the elders

[spring blaze]

their walk cycle was based off of bats

[grave dust]

That makes sense

[spring blaze]

https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/632004389137154048/713123564039045180

tuesday figured it out

[hushed steeple]

Sooooo bat🤯

[grave dust]

Bats are also, thematically, flying night/dark creatures
oooOOoo

[desert sun]

thats ^^^ why i was so confused when i saw that there were crabs in the new trailer

its literally daytime everywhere lmao

[grave dust]

Maybe they're less dark and more.. neutral?

[spring blaze]

theyre dark creatures

if you look at crabs they have these dark particles around their bodies, like what the krills shed

[regal fiber]

IS THIS THE KING?

[heady sinew]

It could be a statue

petrified King?

[spring blaze]

its a statue! theres a handful of them in the area

[burnt dagger]

yknow, i find it interesting that krill is a major part of whale, jellyfish, and manta rays’ diets but in sky it’s completely reversed, knowing that the krill eats the manta in the second stage of wasteland
i was listening in on my little bro’s marine art class, and the instructor was spouting facts about marine creatures and what they eat... then it came to me

thoughts?

[eager shore]

I never thought about that- also I love how water extinguishes our characters' lights but most of the creatures in sky are marine creatures

[fading bear]

But not all of the water takes away our light right? I thought it was only the polluted stuff

[spring blaze]

yeah

forest rain drains our light but if you stand in the water without the rain, the water doesnt drain you

[fading bear]

yeah

[burnt dagger]

wow-

can we draw a parallel to light creatures and phytoplankton?

i’m kinda going on a tangent here and writing whatever comes to mind.. sorry guys

[ashen jacinth]

This is neat stuff! Thanks for sharing!

[grave dust]

It makes sense in a dream world that real world elements would be inverted

[burnt dagger]

also, predators often have eyes in the front of their head. i’m a summer volunteer at the zoo and the saying we are supposed to remember is “eyes in the front, ready to hunt.. eyes on the side, ready to hide”

so, in theory, the krill should be classified as a predator

because of its singular eye on the front

[hushed steeple]

can we draw a parallel to light creatures and phytoplankton?
@burnt dagger there are some phytoplankton with biolumiscence

[mellow sable]

wait a second

"race down the ridge, and the city gates will open for you"

the only doors down valley lead to wasteland

so wasteland IS the major sky city

[frozen pivot]

Major in terms of industry maybe, but valley is supposed to be the center of all the realm

[hushed steeple]

so wasteland IS the major sky city
@mellow sable i see it also like this: wasteland with all those pipes and 2 big (broken) castles, a ship full of goods. it was the main city when the spirits used to live there.
in meta context of the game: wasteland is the main adult phase of the human beeing

[mellow sable]

wasteland is the slums

[frozen pivot]

Wat

[mellow sable]

if valley is the rich city, wasteland is the slums

[sly kestrel]

Valley is the main adult phase
Wasteland is mid life crisis where ur life falls apart

[frozen pivot]

Actually does all the realms have proper names other than their titles?

Pretty sure they have names

[heady sinew]

Not that I know of

[hushed steeple]

Valley is the main adult phase
Wasteland is mid life crisis where ur life falls apart
@sly kestrel oh i see, make sense

[desert sun]

there are names like Dawn, dusk, night etc

[hushed steeple]

so as young adults we know what we want, we do it, we race, we win and after we find ourselfs in a wasteland

[burnt dagger]

@hushed steeple now that you mention it, seems sad but true

[hushed steeple]

@hushed steeple now that you mention it, seems sad but true
@burnt dagger sounds sad but isn't (in my opinion) because only after we saw how wasted all this is we can really deeply enjoy the wisdom / knowledge and get calm

[burnt dagger]

refreshing perspective.. thanks @hushed steeple

[ruby spire]

||Does anyone suspect the swirl of stars in the credits might be the galaxy that sky takes place in?||

[hushed steeple]

This chat is so emotional/deep/I wanna cry now byebye

[ruby spire]

gghgsha

[gritty aurora]

The door to the second part of Eden is exactly the same as the one in ile temple
@raven pollen Can I share this with your credit

[raven pollen]

Of course lol

[eager shore]

My theory about winged light, based off of comnents made in live streams, is that, because they are not children of light, but imprints of children of light, the places they are found ar places that children of light that have fallen in eden love/have a strong emotional connection too. That tie is enough to keep their souls alive so that they remember themselves when their souls are returned. I dont know a lot about the lore, I could be waaayyy off about what's going on there in eden or anything. I just got this game last week. But, who knows?

[polar parrot]

You don't need to spoiler tag stuff here by the way, just don't talk about beta content

[eager shore]

Oh, thank you, I wasnt sure and decided to play it safe, hold on

[ruby spire]

If there are masks of other species of birds, and mammals, could there be dark weasels or cats?

[round river]

Uh.... If they decide to make a sequel game... What would happen to this game?
@ember zodiac
It's just my guess so I'm not sure but...
If this game continue with endless season and spirits there might be a tons of emote and new places which might not suit as mobile game
That's why i think this game might have chapters

[hushed steeple]

I've found a different crab specie.... Those were alive in sunlight

If crabs are really dark creatures... And inspired from bats.. they're not supposed to be alive in sunlight

Pic from trailer

[celest spoke]

You can carry the Forest temple crabs into sunlight... actually I haven’t tried bringing one from Valley temple into the snow yet hmmm

[hushed steeple]

Sooo those are not really act like bats

[digital merlin]

Welp, skykid cycle seems just about having to go on the journey your life was leading towards just to tackle darkness and revive the fallen to assist you in your rebirth, as they pass themselves onto you in the form of candles you are reborn, and must go through the life cycle you have endured for the first time again.

[spring blaze]

they dont act like bats, their walk cycle only mimics it

[hushed steeple]

😐

[near garnet]

Are the Krills be consider as spirits ? Evil ones

[mental narwhal]

ok so a thing im having trouble incorporating into my understanding of the lore behind the world of sky is, why is it that we "return the light of the fallen" over and over again?

[eager shore]

I think that it's just... our job. That it's what we were sent to do, what we're born to do, essentially. I may be wrong

[mental narwhal]

yes i agree on that point
but it's not, like, a one time thing. we return the light kids to the statues to free them/save their souls/whatever, they fly with us up to orbit, then they fly up into the sky as stars
and then we... go back and collect them to do it all again?

are we saving the same kids each time? are there an infinite number of kids that need to be saved?? what's going on there

[eager shore]

Maybe there's something about the Eye of Eden that we don't know about that attracts people; either moth go to light, or maybe other people are trying to stop it and failing, and we essentially rescue them?

[near garnet]

yes i agree on that point
but it's not, like, a one time thing. we return the light kids to the statues to free them/save their souls/whatever, they fly with us up to orbit, then they fly up into the sky as stars
and then we... go back and collect them to do it all again?
@mental narwhal when we just finished eye of eden, we fly in the universe where all the other childre n like the ones we saved, u can see there r bilions of them. Include mantas, birds,..

[mental narwhal]

i guess the answer to this question also kinda depends on the answer to another question, that being, what are the children of light, exactly. are they us? something like us? or are they something else?

my personal - headcanon, i guess - is that the light kids were the first skykids, sent by the elders to try to fix the eye of eden, and they failed in their mission, hence being called "the fallen"

and having articulated that now i have even more questions...

[acoustic inlet]

@ember zodiac
It's just my guess so I'm not sure but...
If this game continue with endless season and spirits there might be a tons of emote and new places which might not suit as mobile game
That's why i think this game might have chapters
@round river devs probably has a solution for it... there could be another kind of seasons not focused in spirits and emotes, just focused in exploration

[lilac stone]

I saw this in wasteland onthe top pillar

What could this be?

I think I see pipes

I'll outline this

[opaque mango]

I tried to go there, but wind blow me back

It looks like a factory

[lilac stone]

Can you provide me a closer look?

[vale ridge]

Imagine us just being a bunch of WALL-Es cleaning all the trash that the ancestors left behind

Well waddya know
That picture looks like a more advanced version of the machine used in the Forest temple

But that’s weird because it’s outside ō 3ō

[worldly pasture]

||All is silent and calm. Hushed and empty is the womb of the sky||

[vale ridge]

Sounds like a line that was deleted off of the Sky script

[worldly pasture]

Might allude to a different type of sky

[vale ridge]

Since sky keeps on adding~~(giving birth? to~~) more and more sky children
Does that mean they can’t stop making sky children
Or are we the same child meeting eachother but a different version of the same child

[worldly pasture]

||Stolen Dreams||

[tulip spire]

Guys remember Jerry the Manta that gets killed by the Krill?

Is there a way to save him? I got a task that says “Rescue a Manta from darkness”

[celest spoke]

Nah you gotta melt dark plants offa mantas in the broken bridge part of Forest

One is under the entrance ramp from the trees and log tunnels; another is off to the right, out in the rain

[tulip spire]

Aw...I wanted to save Jerry 🥺

Oh well. Thanks for the info

[gritty aurora]

Is there a way to save him? I got a task that says “Rescue a Manta from darkness”
@tulip spire You can take the hit before krill see Jerry, but you can't do that forever

[cold dock]

that place isnt 3d, it's just an image

[round river]

Really?👀

[frosty canyon]

This channel is very interesting. It might be my fav

[hushed steeple]

What if that is an ancient teleporter.... Like in that image...👀

[frosty canyon]

It should be I think

When dark creatures appeared maybe it was used to warp people to another realm

But now it’s broken and dead. The damage can be seen with the pipes

Some.

[hushed steeple]

Since sky keeps on adding~~(giving birth? to~~) more and more sky children
Does that mean they can’t stop making sky children
Or are we the same child meeting eachother but a different version of the same child
@vale ridge this fits to my theory: i think they took this philosphical concept in this game: we are alive to experience live in all its forms. we grow up and collect stuff that makes us great. then when we die we have to let go all what we achieved. in this way our soul grows a little bit and comes stronger back to live where we start again with a little bit more than last time. but this is only the perspective from one beeing, the perspective of all is that all this what we experience in live/all the winged lights we search are other peoples live as much as it us our live. so we search ourselfs over amd over again, loose it at the end, start from beginning again and again until we are done and become one in the unity of all. ( in eden at the end of the scene you see how all friends and children are light dots like also the spirits and all become one big white. through which we go as the door befor reborn.

-edit: i forgot to mention the whole part befor going to orbit: after giving up all our achievements we die and our ego is alone in the darkness, only then we can find our true self. after we melt our ego and our true self to one we can go on, breake the bondes that holds us in death and fly with all the other liveforms / that are actually also parts of ourself to orbit (higher level / dimension / perspective of beeing)

[frosty canyon]

@vale ridge this fits to my theory: i think they took this philosphical concept in this game: we are alive to experience live in all its forms. we grow up and collect stuff that makes us great. then when we die we have to let go all what we achieved. in this way our soul grows a little bit and comes stronger back to live where we start again with a little bit more than last time. but this is only the perspective from one beeing, the perspective of all is that all this what we experience in live/all the winged lights we search are other peoples live as much as it us our live. so we search ourselfs over amd over again, loose it at the end, start from beginning again and again until we are done and become one in the unity of all. ( in eden at the end of the scene you see how all friends and children are light dots like also the spirits and all become one big white. through which we go as the doore befor reborn.
@hushed steeple No wonder u were typing so long

[hushed steeple]

haha and thats only the short form, you want to know all of this philosophical concept: its from hermetism

[frosty canyon]

Who realized that Eden was a battleground?

[hushed steeple]

What if that is an ancient teleporter.... Like in that image...👀
@hushed steeple the TARDIS in Sky ?! all my dreams came true, i can die peacfully

[steep coyote]

Guys remember Jerry the Manta that gets killed by the Krill?
@tulip spire

Now I Imagine "Jerry the Manta" with the face of an Italian dude AHAHA

[hushed steeple]

@hushed steeple rest in peace

@steep coyote yeah, the question is why would the krill appear out of the blue just to kill the manta?

[steep coyote]

To show us to not approach them

[hushed steeple]

Krill kills the manta to aware moths..... That krills are not friendly...

[nova tiger]

yeah, the question is why would the krill appear out of the blue just to kill the manta?
tutorial purposes

[hushed steeple]

@steep coyote yeah, the question is why would the krill appear out of the blue just to kill the manta?
@hushed steeple krill eats everything. i think the only purpose that jerry exists is to die, that moths who never been there see, be aware of this agressive thingy

That manta sacrifices his life daily... Respect him

[steep coyote]

Actually Krills don't eat :0 they just push us away that hard that we loose our light, as for creatures like the manta maybe they kill them directly

I expect Krills to be heavy creatures so a BODY SLAMU from them means death to creatures like mantas

[sour stream]

Whoo I've never said a thing here but thought I'd add to the conversation: the devs mentioned that 'dark plants and dark creatures will try to take light from you' and since Sky kids + mantas + butterflies are light creatures, yeah lol

[steep coyote]

Dark plants get our light away? I see when you step on them they start glowing yellow particles

But I don't loose light-

[hushed steeple]

@hushed steeple krill eats everything. i think the only purpose that jerry exists is to die, that moths who never been there see, be aware of this agressive thingy
@hushed steeple I agree, I've always thought about that too. They kill the manta just to warn us of their danger
Another question, the Manta's name is Jerry? How did you know?

[steep coyote]

They probably named it

[hushed steeple]

Then the krill's name is definitely tom

[steep coyote]

OOF

[hushed steeple]

Whoo I've never said a thing here but thought I'd add to the conversation: the devs mentioned that 'dark plants and dark creatures will try to take light from you' and since Sky kids + mantas + butterflies are light creatures, yeah lol
@sour stream and you notice that krill are constantly looking for skykids , like they actually mean to take light from them

They are patrolling .... Following a certain route

[cedar heron]

Guys remember Jerry the Manta that gets killed by the Krill?
Is there a way to save him?

@tulip spire You can take the hit before krill see Jerry, but you can't do that forever
Actually, we can. If you noticed, the Krill won't appear before we reach a specific point in the area. So it's safe to assume that Jerry only get attacked by Krill while under our observation. So we only need to take the hit for as long as we're observing the area. Jerry's fate while in unobserved state is just as certain as Schrodinger's pitiful kitten's fate.

[hushed steeple]

||Quantum mechanics in sky||

||Quantum mechanics in sky||
@hushed steeple this makes it more interesting

[cedar heron]

[mellow sable]

oh my GOD

I JUST NOTICED SOMETHING

after you meditate with the vault elder, the area you go to is the REAL vault

theres even the broken diamond and everything

so vault is an illusion

[tulip spire]

👁👄👁

[proper sedge]

dang, now that you mentioned it i just noticed it

[turbid spade]

Then the krill's name is definitely tom
@hushed steeple Isn't it Tomato? Right?

[hushed steeple]

theres even the broken diamond and everything
@mellow sable also this.......

[mellow sable]

oh my god

is that what I think it is???

[hushed steeple]

Yesh..... probably

Lore

We need to translate it

[mellow sable]

woah, the journey glyphs are actually a language?

I didn't know that

[hushed steeple]

Ancient sky language

[tall vine]

Is this Forest temple?

[frail cedar]

pretty sure yes! those columns resemble trees i think

[mellow sable]

indeed it is

[tall vine]

Is that means the first building in Battlefield is actually ruins of Forest temple?

The one with winged light

[mellow sable]

no?

the battlefield is the last line of defense before the "holy land"

the vault

[tall vine]

Hmmm.. *rush to battlefield

[mellow sable]

and as it would seem

they failed to protect it

but protect it from what?

could it be that the vault diamond attracted krill?

I got right up to the Eden diamond today too

it's barely held together

like, it's collapsing and all of the shards is part of it

but wait a moment

if it's this size and there's so many crystals, originally it must've been way larger

[hushed steeple]

A clear image... Without rocks

[mellow sable]

it's pure white, other diamonds are a pale blue

oh I just realized

the summit of vault is seen in the orbit sequence

so that means the storm was actually created IN vault

or at least near it

[regal fiber]

Nice

[hushed steeple]

The summit of vault is as same as top of eden's one because vault is copying the top of eden

[mellow sable]

knowing what I discovered today, I'd say that the vault elder is the person that created the Eden diamond

[hushed steeple]

As vault shows us all realms together (except vault)

[mellow sable]

he's the only elder that entrusts the sky kid with something

"don't make my mistake, fix this"

[hushed steeple]

Hmm makes sense

[tall vine]

Ah I took so long ;v;

So this building isn't the same building as the one in the mural?

[mellow sable]

no

that one is most likely a city

[tall vine]

Cause in the mural you can see a tip of a building behind it..

Hmm..

[hushed steeple]

I believe that represents eden... As you can see eden from all realms...

It's like eden is our destination

I'm not sure tho

[tall vine]

I read somewhere in pinned messages that Forest and Wasteland is geographically connected. But the forest temple is the area with one krill right? I just kinda remember that mural when I went to Battlefield today.

I believe that represents eden... As you can see eden from all realms...
@hushed steeple I think it can be too.. Since its like up in the clouds..

[hushed steeple]

Nope forest and wasteland completely separate area rijja

All realms are separate

And that area with one krill in wasteland... Is nothing but another powered diamond factory

[tall vine]

The first photo is in forest temple. The 2nd one taken in the first area with one krill. Thanks Mr. Krill for extra lighting

[hushed steeple]

Yes both are powered diamond factory
Wasteland one is broken

[sour stream]

@steep coyote probably because plants are too... idk, planty/passive for Sky kids haha. But if you notice, they do grow over pots with butterflies stored in them, like how fungus would decompose stuff.

Another minor in-game observation is when you burn plants, a red barn appears on your wing meter. It doesn't do anything but it's there and is the opposite of the green bar that appears when you light up Darkstone. Just food for thought

[tall vine]

Its way too similar .-.
The broken thing behind is shown after Forest elder cutscene.

[sour stream]

Maybe the building in the clouds represent the kingdom in the sky/the place where all the spirits fell from? Like the one you fly by in/before orbit

[hushed steeple]

No wonder as that's another powered diamond factory

[tall vine]

Sorry the angle is a bit different

And theres this gem.-.

[hushed steeple]

Rijja both are factory... I told you

[tall vine]

So Forest temple is merely a factory?

[hushed steeple]

Powered diamond factory

Wanna know more about it?

[vale bone]

Wanna know more about it?
@hushed steeple Yes pls, is there a pinned message for that?

[hushed steeple]

Dm

[tall vine]

Wanna know more about it?
@hushed steeple sure

I kinda think like so because there are some theories pinned. Well its not canon tho. I just kinda agree with that. I don't know yet about the diamond factory theory, so if you can fill me up Ill be happy.

[mellow sable]

its confirmed that darkness is basically light mold

it grows where light is collected in large amounts

[wispy crater]

I`m curios, what exactly happened to GW i mean there was something else before the darkness

[nova tiger]

a diamond factory

[unborn fog]

multiple

[normal berry]

and a battle

[pearl void]

So someone ask what will happen if the crab is expose to sunlight. That was interesting. So i make a lil experiment.

I took the crab out of the cave and expose it to the light, stayed for awhile to see what will happen. It broke to pieces, and i went in to the cave and found that he is there again. Maybe the game reset the crab and bring him to the cave, or maybe the crab just died from over exposed sunlight.

[hushed steeple]

||It's like how vampires (turns into vapour)/die in daylight||

[nova tiger]

LOL that's just server merges

the crab brought outside gets warped back to the location you merged with

the particles get bugged in the air

and it just spawns back

[hushed steeple]

one question: if light creatures are being harvested don’t they know it? they why do they go to you when you’re flying? like in forest or valley when you go near them they recharge you

[nova tiger]

i mean, prairie lore says that the mantas were enslaved or something like that so...

[hushed steeple]

another: why do the red crystals shake when you go near them? it seems like they get smaller... (or the ones at the bottom of the eye of eden do)

[barren bloom]

Shield pattern?

[celest spoke]

In office when you carry a crab outside, the dark ashes slowly fall off and then the crab disappears/respawns back to the inside cubicle where they live— but try just holding onto the crab and walking around with it until it flips

(I brought this crab from the tunnel on the other side of the river)

[eager shore]

Who are the people in these murals; are they the people that lived in this world? If so, did they use the boats to try and return the fallen stars to the sky?

I'm new to this, still trying to figure this out

[sly kestrel]

Wafo

[hollow pier]

after you meditate with the vault elder, the area you go to is the REAL vault
@mellow sable actually it’s canon that elder cutscenes exist outside of time and space

@pearl void when krabs poof it’s because of a server change

[hushed sable]

I just noticed this mural is of them falling out of their boats

[eager shore]

I really wonder what happened in the valley, with buildings upside down in the sky and all that

[hushed sable]

I kinda thought it was funny and interesting

[eager shore]

Yeah- I guess the storm from eden struck them down

Maybe that's who was there, people who used the boats to try and return the stars?

[hushed sable]

Get too high and the storm strikes them down?

The only way to orbit is through eden

[eager shore]

W-were they using umbrellas in eden

Or is that the hidden forest

[hushed sable]

That sounds about right

For some reason it kinda looks like a suspension bridge

[mellow sable]

that's forest

with the lightseekers crew

[uncut bone]

For some of my friends back up there, Wasteland and Forest are connected. By what, we aren't sure, but it's the same thing, maybe in a different timeline.

[hollow pier]

the only doors down valley lead to wasteland
@mellow sable there’s also doors that open to lead you into the temple, and then after the temple and before wasteland there’s a city

[mellow sable]

that counts as a city?

[uncut bone]

Nope forest and wasteland completely separate area rijja
@hushed steeple Not exactly.

There are theories that Forest and Wasteland are the same area, however with wasteland being later in the timeline.

[hollow pier]

@mellow sable a lot of it is hidden by clouds and perspective, you can see more of it if you go oob

[mellow sable]

ohh that

[frozen pivot]

Theres an anchor in ark that seems too large even for the ark ship

[spring blaze]

[unborn fog]

same ginsy

[hushed steeple]

so could wasteland be a combination of forest and valley?

[regal fiber]

More like a seaport

Every major city normally has a seaport or ocean near

Maybe the ark was returning to the city and krill where beginning to attack and got caught

Or maybe they where running from the city and was being hunted by krill

[warm canopy]

Is this the right channel for this question? I've always been curious, what's with this bird sacrifice altar???

[cold steppe]

it was an old (prelaunch) beta?? quest

[warm canopy]

Ooooh, thank you

[steady tundra]

dark stone manifested the water in wasteland I'm pretty sure

[jade river]

Maybe it represents how light decays in darkness??

[steady tundra]

it was an old (prelaunch) beta?? quest
@cold steppe what was the quest about?

Maybe it represents how light decays in darkness??
@jade river good idea

They are probably using the dark stone for the factories in wasteland and then they dumped the waste into the water

[kindred radish]

Hey guys

This is probably a dumb question but why is Eden angy

Well why do you think it is, I mean

@ me please

[desert sun]

@kindred radish theres a storm at eden, thats why its so angy

why is there a storm idk, but i think its because of that big diamond you see at eden

[kindred radish]

I assumed the storm is caused by the crystal

And wanted to know why the crystal was angy

[desert sun]

that we also do not know

[cold steppe]

it's not confirmed, but one popular theory is that Eden is a giant power diamond (like the other smaller ones we see around Sky that provide power for the different technologies, i.e. boats and doors) that exploded and may or may not have destroyed the rest of the world (theories vary about the full consequences from this possible explosion)

[hushed steeple]

yo

what kind of birds are in sky

does anyone know
or is it just "mmm birb"

[steady tundra]

???

wdym

[hushed steeple]

like

r they pigeons

kites

what

doves????

[uncut bone]

so could wasteland be a combination of forest and valley?
@hushed steeple Not exactly. Valley, I think, is like modern day, this goes back to the theory about how sky realms represent earth with mankind. All other realms have so much to explore, and to be explored, while valley is simple. Straight down. It makes the feeling that they are hiding something, eg the darkness from forest

what kind of birds are in sky
@hushed steeple they’re just birds

does anyone know
or is it just "mmm birb"
@hushed steeple yeah

[blazing terrace]

I feel like
Doves
Oh someone said that already
But also
Have the potential to be seagullish

[hushed steeple]

skygulls skygulls

[blazing terrace]

Especially the ones on the roof of one of the tents at the ark
Maybe it’s cause I live in California but they remind me of them-

[trail kindle]

this has probably already been discussed, but I find these Interesting. like Eden used to be a gaint castle or something

weird theory but whenever I rewatch the rebirth thing it looks like we're in the past or something

like we're watching the castle fall apart, possibly due to krill? 🤔

[tranquil thicket]

I feel like we're in the present, seeing what is actually happening there - that the thing that once was eden, which seems like formerly the grandest place in all of sky, is just crumbling ruins. nowhere else are we seeing active destruction - maybe eden is just so far gone that none of the buildings are even capable of standing anymore. but the idea that we're in the past watching it actually crumble is really cool too

not so sure if it's due to krill as we've never seen krill actually target buildings themselves, just light creatures

more likely it's from complete abandonment and potentially the rippling effects of the explosion

there are a lot of light creatures there still heading up to orbit, actually, so it's probably not krill related since we would see them if we see other creatures

[trail kindle]

ooo that's cool 👀

[tranquil thicket]

i really love the imagery of flying up to find that the building that you keep seeing in the distance like a crown is actually completely in ruins and falling apart

[trail kindle]

I've also found it interesting that there's a bunch of holes everywhere in the side area in vault? me and my friends theorize Abt it being from krill, they're about the same size so
but the thought of krill busting through buildings, charging into light/spirits (well,, before they were spirits) is scary

[tranquil thicket]

i wonder... when we see the krill charge that manta in the first temple of wasteland, it doesn't actually damage things. of course, this is probably because actually creating a damaged area would be difficult, but they don't seem to have physical bodies - I know people have said they can fly through them

but yeah that's a terrifying thought

[worn hill]

@trail kindle where exactly

[trail kindle]

?

[worn hill]

the holes

[trail kindle]

immediately when you enter vault, go to the two person door on the right

once you get in and go into a tunnel thingy(?) you go through hallways that have holes you jump through to go down floors. on certain floors there's crabs and water. the holes look extremely out of place and look less like they were made for convenience and morely by something busting through the ground

[worn hill]

actually now that you said it theres no doors besides the holes in that place so how did the spirits get inside in the first place?

[trail kindle]

🤔

[tranquil thicket]

it's possible that those are areas that were weakened by already having openings in them (doors, hatches) and have further disintegrated over time

[trail kindle]

good point, I was kinda going off all the ruble, crabs, and smashed stuff

[tranquil thicket]

there doesn't seem to be evidence of damage in other parts of vault

yeah the presence of crabs is kind of weird actually lol

[trail kindle]

like how on one of the floors there's a broken thing despite not being near where one of the holes are

that sounds really vague, one sec lemme find a photo

[tranquil thicket]

haha thanks

I was trying to recall where you might be referring to

[trail kindle]

this thing

not to mention this hole, which from what we can see around it shouldn't exist at all

[tranquil thicket]

the jars?

the reason that hole must have had some reason to exist though is that there are platforms to it

assuming for a moment that this is not for convenience of gameplay, that means that people had to access that wall for a reason

[trail kindle]

yeah, they kinda look out of place? like how it's two jars in a pile of sand in a place they're usually never seen

true

[tranquil thicket]

honestly given the water and sand in the bottom of that place i'd be willing to believe that there's some sort of erosion/flooding that could eventually push debris around down there

[trail kindle]

ooooh that's neat :0 I like that

[tranquil thicket]

another interesting thing is that the final passage back out is not completed looking - doesn't look polished

so perhaps those jars and stuff are left over from whatever construction was going on down there?

[worn hill]

hey also what is this talk about forest and wasteland being the same

[tranquil thicket]

I don't believe it personally but some believe wasteland is forest in the future

[worn hill]

i mean they kinda look alike but not completely

[trail kindle]

ooh that's interesting :o I've never heard that theory

[worn hill]

yeah because inside wasteland temple looks like the end of forest when you meet the spirit

but like forest temple is high and wasteland temple is so low next to the ground

also the end of wastelands temple doesn't look like the garden from the end of forest

so it doesn't make sense

[tranquil thicket]

the other theory relatingthe two is that forest and wasteland were both involved in the same industry (power diamond generation) hence similar architecture

[worn hill]

maybe they built multiple temples that look alike

i mean that's kinda the story of journey a civilization was destroyed because of technology journey and sky have very similar story line

[trail kindle]

thatd make sense, sometimes wasteland comes off like a factory of sorts

[zinc arrow]

personally ive always seen the realms as separate places (especially because of how close you get to eden in the background) but i can see why forest and wasteland might b seen as past and future

wasteland was like. factories and stuff i think? before it became a battleground

[worn hill]

i feel like valley actually don't fit into all this

like we get from a race stadium to a battleground?

[trail kindle]

the horn spirit has always came off as some type of look out guy, like he'd take out his horn and sound the alarm if he saw danger. perhaps there were people or things trying to steal what they were producing?

[lethal stump]

tbh i think wasteland was more of a trading grounds

[zinc arrow]

well both (we)r(e) technologically advanced i suppose

[tranquil thicket]

wasteland wasn't originally a battleground

[lethal stump]

especially considering the Ark, and shipwreck in what looks like a port

[tranquil thicket]

it looks like an industrial center

port, factories

[zinc arrow]

i think the horn spirit was there bc of the war

yeah it was one

[worn hill]

the ark were travelers but the krill attacked them

[tranquil thicket]

ark travellers actually seem to have been struck down by lightning per a mural on the ship

[worn hill]

actually who did the spirits have war with in wasteland 🤔

[zinc arrow]

there is a krill that follows the ship to the ark tho which i find Interesting
idk much about forgotten ark lore though didnt pay attention

dark creatures

specifically krill

[worn hill]

I don't think the krill are that smart to have a war with

i like to believe the krill invaded that place after the war

[lethal stump]

by war do we mean « krills went on a bloody rampage » or « krills and spirits made strategic attacks against each other »
OR OR
« two groups of spirits used krill against each other » (civil war)

[zinc arrow]

1st one for me

[lethal stump]

cause i think it’s the third one

[worn hill]

lets look at journey for inspiration

[lethal stump]

where did krill come from tho quiz

[zinc arrow]

krills take light n spirits got mad thts all i really see

[worn hill]

the dragons from journey were made by the same people as the character

so i think the spirits made the krills

[zinc arrow]

i dont completely know where krill came from but they mightve always been there

light can't exist without darkness afterall

[lethal stump]

i think krill used to be light creatures like manta, but through war were turned dark

[worn hill]

oh nice theory

i don't see the krills attacking buildings and wasteland have so many broken buildings

so idk about that

[lethal stump]

they could have been used as transportation, or to protect goods
like massive guard dogs

[zinc arrow]

in concept art krill were originally corrupted light iirc

or well. a dark creature tht resembled a krill today was

[lethal stump]

worm off the string

[worn hill]

they are constantly looking for something like they are protecting some things

[solid pendant]

I just wanna drop this in but quiz I love your pfp my char pfp from monster prom, aight sorry for busting in toodles. I KEEP MESSING UP

[worn hill]

@solid pendant i actually love you spinel pfp

[zinc arrow]

thank u! oz a comfort character
but yeah wdym by protecting something?

[worn hill]

your*

@zinc arrow maybe the diamonds that were being made in the factories?

[solid pendant]

Aw thx, I'll be off now toodles everyone have fun deciphering Sky

[zinc arrow]

oh interesting i never thought of it like tht

[worn hill]

we know there's a lot of krills in eden and eden has a big diamond in the middle sooooo

[tranquil thicket]

WORM OFF THE STRING WHAT WILL IT DO

krills me

[zinc arrow]

power diamonds do need light to work though so theyre trying to weaken everyone else?

[worn hill]

@zinc arrow who was trying to do that